graphics-cards

[median pagoda]

eBay?

[worldly crow]

u can use differnt places

[brisk flame]

vega 56 is better than the 1070ti

slightly

[worldly crow]

i used facebook marketplace and got it locally

[zenith kraken]

can i get some conformation a 5700xt is worth getting or not with all the reports of driver issues causing crashes?

[brisk flame]

those reports were mostly from a few months ago

its fine now

[zenith kraken]

ok, i like the look of the sapphire and it runs the same as the 2070 super I was about to get for over $100 less so just checking all the boxes before the commitment lol

[brisk flame]

yee, the sapphire is the better AIB navi card

when compared to the cooling solutions of some of the other ones

[zenith kraken]

that and im on dual free sync monitors that are not g sync compatable so id like to take advantage of that too

[worldly crow]

with 2070 super the thing i would look for is ray tracing. 5700xt doesnt do ray tracing. if u dont care about ray tracing then save the 100 and a nvme with it

theyre both great cards

[zenith kraken]

thats exactly what i did, I dont feel anything i do will utilise the ray tracing. so i put the extra money in getting a better mobo

[worldly crow]

yea

[zenith kraken]

already have a good NVMe and SSD

[worldly crow]

also 20 series cards work with freesync

so do 10 series

the others below im not sure

[zenith kraken]

what about the MSI Gaming X 1080 Frozr Vi ? is that included in the 10 series?

[worldly crow]

yea all 10 series do

i have a gtx 1070 sc

im using gsync

[zenith kraken]

I can throw that in the build i have currently, but moving to a more stylish build thats all puke RGB for the memes

[worldly crow]

but i mean if u have a 1080 now then yea save the 400

[zenith kraken]

i was going to go with the white gigabyte 2070 super but seen that sapphire and could not find a reason to change my mind from it and this chat just confermed it lol

[ancient crystal]

ray tracing isn't the thing as much as NVENC if you're a streamer and want to offload the encoding from your CPU

[worldly crow]

do u have the 1080 now?

[open crystal]

1660s can run link?

[zenith kraken]

i have one in the build that im on now

[open crystal]

(Oculus link)

[worldly crow]

hell id just stick with that

save the 400

[zenith kraken]

but i dont have any options about g sync or free sync

[worldly crow]

but its really upo to u

[zenith kraken]

the 5700xt if for another build

[worldly crow]

is ur card up to date?

[zenith kraken]

just installed the latest drivers like monday i believe

[worldly crow]

under nvidia control panel

says display and setup gsync

i only have a 1070 and its on mine

[zenith kraken]

yeah im not seeing it

i wonder if its becasue the monitors are not g sync compatable

[worldly crow]

mine didnt say that i dont think

[zenith kraken]

I looked up my monitors and LG says they are not compatable

[worldly crow]

this is mine https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V39QHMY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[zenith kraken]

I haqve 2 of these

https://www.amazon.com/LG-29UM59-29-Inch-UltraWide-Monitor/dp/B071L1KDVB/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=lg+29"+ultrawide+monitor&qid=1576729821&s=electronics&sr=1-4

[worldly crow]

maybe cause its old?

only has hdmi 1.4

[zenith kraken]

yeah its a 2016 model

[worldly crow]

the one i got just came out so it has hdmi 2.0 and display port

[zenith kraken]

im just not at a point to get more monitors already dropping $1700 on a 2nd rig lol

[worldly crow]

bet if u had a newer monitor gsync would show up

that 400 u was gonna buy a new card with would do it

[zenith kraken]

nah, these monitors work fine, they will run free sync and thats the other rig

[worldly crow]

theyll work on freesync but u need a 5700xt

[zenith kraken]

so ill be happy with that. If i decide to sell the rig im on now becasue im going more style ergonomic ill get monitors then

thats the plan

going 5700xt over the 2070 super

and upgrade the mobo from a B-450 tomohawk to an asus X-570 Pro

[worldly crow]

i never got into ultra wides cause i dont like the resolution unless its like 144hz 1ms 3840 x 1440

dont like the 1080 ones

i love 1440p looks great

[zenith kraken]

my original plan for a monitor was wait till april and use the tax refund lol

[worldly crow]

my next monitor will be a 4k 144

[zenith kraken]

i want one them 34" ultra wide curved with all the amenities lol

[slender vigil]

Yessss

[median pagoda]

Sexy

Rog stuff is really nice

[worldly crow]

my next card might be a rog

trying to hold out for 3070

[slender vigil]

It’s the RTX 2070 S

3070 is like in couple years or more

[worldly crow]

https://www.technewstoday.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti/

they say they might debut 3080 and 3080 it

before 1st half next year

so within the next 6 months they should announce and i think by christmas next year we might see one

radeon has a few lineups before they announce the navi with ray tracing which is supposed to compete with 2080 ti

''RTX 3080 is coming in June?
Industry experts are currently speculating that we will get out first look of Nvidia’s 7nm Ampere architecture based graphics cards during GTC (GPU Technology Conference) 2020. And they claim that the first batch of these cards, including the RTX 3080, will be released around the time of Computex 2020 (in June).

Nvidia are in no hurry to roll these new GPUs out. They are very well positioned in the market with their current gen of GPUs, particularly with those at the highest end, the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti. But there have been rumors floating around about AMD, Nvidia’s chief competitor, planning on releasing a high-end ray tracing graphics card dubbed the “NVIDIA killer” during the first half of 2020. This has left Nvidia with no choice but to fast track their Ampere architecture and the next generation of RTX 30 GPUs.

As of now, it is expected that Nvidia will first introduce some high-end GPUs in June, like the RTX 3070 and RTX 3080. The release of an Ampere Titan and then the RTX 3080 Ti will soon follow. This will be followed by the more mid-range RTX 3060 and 3050 a few months later.''

if true we will see them before the end of the year next year

[copper jackal]

the 2080ti super was the rumour for the start of next year

[hushed stirrup]

My prediction is 3080Ti will be 1.5x to 2.5x the price of 2080Ti 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/make-it-rain-show-me-gif-12412910

[lone pond]

3090 ti !!!

[ancient crystal]

if you get excited about that you have way too much mad money

it's not like the older cards are gonna get cheaper

[hushed stirrup]

I don't have that kind of money. Even spending on a 5700XT is gonna cost me an arm and a leg. So, there won't be any plan to get RTX2080 or its hig-end newer version cousins.

[ancient crystal]

yeah

AMD won't be raising prices though

they'll just be replacing existing stuff

i.e. Radeon VII getting replaced with a Navi card

and then 5700XT/5700 getting replaced

since the VII is still the same Vega microarchitecture

a card at that price point using Navi architecture would be far more powerful

[hushed stirrup]

I am thinking of upgrading at the end of next year, probably gonna wait and collect more money to see if there are gonna be worth the price.

[ancient crystal]

probably call the cards 5800/5800XT and 5900

or something along those lines

i'd be interested to see if it made VII prices cheaper, because even though the VII is no GTX 2080 it's still a powerful GPU and it would be excellent to get hold of one

[obtuse sorrel]

If Nvidia releases another line less than a year after this one people are just going to jump ship to AMD permanently, with the exception of top enthusiasts and fanboys.

I know I will.

[silk quiver]

So I’ve been out of the loop for a while and so I have been researching graphics cards. Is a 1060 comparable to a 2060, a 1070 comparable to a 2070 and so on aside from the ROTC’s having ray tracing? Or does it go in order such as 1060, 1070, 1080, 2060, 2070, 2080 etc?

[ancient crystal]

nvidia releases way too fast

no they're unrelated

[silk quiver]

Rtx’s*

[ancient crystal]

the 20xx are much better cards

regardless of ray tracing

the 16xx are also much better than their previous year counterparts

[silk quiver]

I keep seeing benchmarks where the 1080 is beating the 2060 all the time.

[ancient crystal]

1080 beating the 2060 makes sense

[silk quiver]

Kind of confusing

[ancient crystal]

the 2060 is kind of entry level according to nvidia's scheme

so the 1080 was a high level card

[silk quiver]

I was looking to spend about $350, $400 tops,.

[ancient crystal]

the 1080 might handily beat the 2060 and go hand in hand with the 2070

[silk quiver]

Seems like 2060s are that range

[ancient crystal]

then get an RX 5700 XT

it's more powerful than the 2060s

and it costs less

ray tracing on 2060/Ti/Super is a joke

so unless you stream (and therefore need NVENC) nvidia is not worth the money

[silk quiver]

Yeh I don’t really care about RT

I don’t

[ancient crystal]

nvidia becomes worth the money at the highest tier only

the RX 5700 XT trades blows with 2070

at $400

[silk quiver]

So I’m not familiar with AMD cards at all. What is the order they typically go in?

[ancient crystal]

what do you mean

they don't

AMD has changed the standard naming order a lot

[silk quiver]

So there isn’t like RX 5600, 5700, 5800 etc?

[ancient crystal]

last gen AMD had: RX 550, RX 560, RX 570, RX 580, RX Vega 56, RX Vega 64

this gen they have RX 5500 XT, RX 5700, RX 5700 XT, Radeon VII (which is an older Vega card but is a bit more powerful)

[brisk flame]

Radeon VII

was last gen

technically

[ancient crystal]

technically, but it was their first card of this gen in terms of timing

[brisk flame]

i see

makes sense

[ancient crystal]

it was last gen tech

[brisk flame]

pushed to the limits

[ancient crystal]

but nvidia hasn't abandoned GCN

er

AMD

lmao

they have chosen to relegate its use to professional cards

Navi being the gaming focused stuff

[brisk flame]

like in the new mac pro

[ancient crystal]

yeah it's got some new GCN monster in it

[silk quiver]

Thank you very much. Very helpful!

[ancient crystal]

it's always a pleasure, AMD is rather confusing about names still

oh and by the way

the RX 5xx series aren't out of the way yet

even though the 5500 XT is in the same territory as the 580

and the Vega series are being sold at prices (for the 56) slightly lower than RX 5700

the 64 is still absolutely bonkers expensive

probably because it's better at mining than the current Navi cards

used 64s can be had for $250 and up

used 56s can be had for $180 and up

those are imo the two tiers down from 5700

in AMD's arsenal of stuff

i am going to target a used 64

because it's sometimes 1-2 frames behind the 5700

and even at say, $270 it's a deal

[silk quiver]

So the Vega 64 may be worth looking at?

Comparable to a 5700XT?

[ancient crystal]

if you can get one that has a return policy on ebay

no

it's comparable to a little less than a 5700

the XT is still much more powerful

[silk quiver]

I’m looking at prices now. Seems like the 5700xt might be better for me.

[ancient crystal]

if you've got $350-400 i'd opt for the XT

[brisk flame]

^

[silk quiver]

Thank you so much

[icy wadi]

Having a bit of difficulty deciding on a video card to get for a budget of $400-500 CA dollars, was eyeballing the 2060, a used 1080 or go for a bit more heft with a rx 5700 XT

ideally leaning towards professional gaming and what is the most ideal

[ancient crystal]

if you think you're going to be a gaming pro you should take into account the nvidia card's NVENC video encoding which is especially good for streamers

[lone pond]

Wonder if I should just buy a titan V

[ancient crystal]

do you have a 4K monitor you plan to be gaming on?

because that's what you do with a titan V

[lone pond]

Nah I’m just joking a titan v is a wallet killer

And also I was gonna just make a joke about using a i-5 6400 with it lol and 8gb of ram

[ancient crystal]

even if you're rich, a Titan V is excess

[lone pond]

Yea

Also what about quadro RTX 4000s

[ancient crystal]

lol not even familiar with what those are

i know quadro is nvidia's professional brand

[lone pond]

I think mostly calculation

Like rendering or math

Tbh maybe bitcoin mining would be good

[ancient crystal]

they're designed for CAD and rendering and high precision math stuff

[lone pond]

Yea

[ancient crystal]

they have the double precision CUDA

[lone pond]

Dammit I gtg

[ancient crystal]

which doesn't exist on consumer cards

k

[hushed stirrup]

PowerColor RX 5700 XT Liquid Devil review by Hardware Unboxed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCZ5vOiVKj4

[lone pond]

I wonder what is the most powerful graphics cards non consumer like that is PICe

[granite juniper]

well depends on what u use it for, but either the rtx titan or rtx quadro 8000

[lone pond]

dunno about quadro but ive worked with tesla k80 in comp arch class

[dreamy dragon]

Mollusk#9947 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

thing's fast

oof

[lone pond]

Rtx titan is prosumer I'd say

I'd classify the rtx titan as an HEDT gpu

[ancient crystal]

HEDT, @lone pond ?

[lone pond]

High end desktop, like 7980XE and threadripper

[sage mountain]

If my GPU has hdmi 1.4a output, is that enough for 144hz? Monitor will have hdmi 1.4 and 144hz

Basically what's the diff between 1.4a and 1.4b and can they do 144hz

Xd

[summer peak]

at 1080p yes

[sage mountain]

OK pog

Tyty

[ancient crystal]

i have such an old HDMI cable that after my displayport cable broke i had to use it and it won't go above 120Hz at 1080p

some amazonbasics cables i bought like 8 years ago

[tender mulch]

Probably HDMI 1.1 or 1.0

[granite juniper]

^

[ancient crystal]

yeah

they're old

either way

[fallen schooner]

so you could say they are boomers?

😄

[ancient crystal]

they're not half as old as i am

[fallen schooner]

ok youngin

[ancient crystal]

i'm 36 and i've had some kid say "ok boomer" unironically to me

[fallen schooner]

that's so funny

they don't even understand what it means

it's just the 'cool thing to say'

it's been thrown so far outta context it's not even remotely funny.

[tender mulch]

If only they knew where it came from

[ancient crystal]

the point of it was originally to eliminate boomers from discourse involving younger people

[tender mulch]

Um, no

[ancient crystal]

it is supposed to be meant to be taken as "i'm not going to talk to you because there isn't a point"

somehow i feel this will be read as political so i'm going to stop

[sage mountain]

i say ok boomer to my friends who are younger

i guess im part of the problem

[pure panther]

How much is an AMD Radeon R9 380 worth

If it's two months of use

[ancient crystal]

no idea

it's a highly outdated card

but the way the market is, it might still go for a decent sum

[sage mountain]

go on ebay and look at at listings

[ancient crystal]

try checking ebay

yeah

[sage mountain]

look at prices that it has been sold for

[pure panther]

I want it for a build that can run older games

[ancient crystal]

look at the "trending prices" that appear at the top of the page

[pure panther]

Just a crappy i3 build

Okay

What's better a Radeon Rx 480 or the Radeon R9 380

@ancient crystal

[maiden sun]

Rx 580

[pure panther]

580 isn't an option lol

[maiden sun]

Uhhh

Rx 580 still

480, the r9 is stupid

[pure panther]

Okay

[lone pond]

I currently am running a Strix 1080 at the moment and want to upgrade. What would be a safe option. Not sure I want to spend 1.1k on a 2080ti or pick up a used 1080ti for 500. Would a 1080ti even be much improvement

[maiden sun]

2080 ti

Stick with it to

Yo* when rtx 3000 comes out try that

[modest reef]

1080 Ti would only be 10-15 more fps right? I don't think it'd be worth it.

I'd wait for 3000

[buoyant basin]

10-15 FPS is pretty decent.

But I don't even think you would get that much more FPS.

[summer peak]

the 1080 is honestly still a really solid card

I wouldn't bother upgrading unless you really want to game at 4k60 and even then the 2080ti can't hit that in some games

[buoyant basin]

(Most)

[lone pond]

I’m gaming at 1440p still hitting 144fps on decent settings but want to start transitioning to 4k

[summer peak]

don't bother yet

wait for the new cards

you still have a really solid setup

I get wanting to upgrade, but you just won't see much of an improvement

for a lot of money

[buoyant basin]

(A LOT)

[modest reef]

Plus if you still want to, 2000 series would drop when 3000 series comes out

[lone pond]

Very true so fun and easy to spend money in pc gaming lol

[buoyant basin]

You could still count on people to sell their 2080Ti when RTX 3000/2100 come out.

[lone pond]

Hoping my 8700k will be okay with 3000 series doubtful

[buoyant basin]

You all seem to think next gen will be 3xxx, but why wouldn't it be 21xx ?

[lone pond]

True

[buoyant basin]

Is there something I missed ?

[summer peak]

There's a reason I didn't give it a nname

we simply don't know

[lone pond]

3000 is what everyone is siding with in other threads lol so that’s what I just go with

[buoyant basin]

Forget what I said, guys.

[granite juniper]

2100 just sounds wack but so does 1650/1650 Super/1660/1660 Super/1660 ti

but yeah its 99% gonna be 3000

[buoyant basin]

How to be surprised when NVidia goes from 2/3/4/5/6/7/9/10xx to 20xx and 16xx numbers ?!

I shouldn't even have questionned myself why 3000, it's obvious why : "Because NVidia".

"Because GTX 16xx"

[granite juniper]

becuz gpu sails

[buoyant basin]

"Because I can say 'toaster' in gender form field".

[lone pond]

Can the 3080 to toast?

[buoyant basin]

"GPU sail "? @granite juniper

Yes it can't.

[granite juniper]

[remote sequoia]

Hmmm Seems VII actually did catch up to the 2080 in raw performance at least
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+VII/review?_ga=2.260404237.1896138010.1576784061-943588279.1570211539

it's only 20 points behind out of 27,696

in gaming it's still kinda spotty

[dreamy dragon]

Women#9187 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[buoyant basin]

@granite juniper Plz, don't tell me you didn't understand/laugh or I'm gonna cry.

[slender vigil]

I just switched from a 1070 to RTX 2070 S

[dense flicker]

[granite juniper]

@buoyant basin yeah I did :v

[lavish lantern]

just a quick question, how much diffrent does Samsung memory make compares to Micron on RTX cards?

[lone pond]

Samsung likes warm, micron likes cold. Otherwise, not huge relative to core cooling, power limit, and if applicable, mods.

[buoyant basin]

@granite juniper That doesn't seem genuine though.

[quartz grove]

[rustic nymph]

Quick question. do i go for a GTX 1660 or an RX 590? There is a pretty decent price difference but idk if its worth me spending more on a 1660. My monitor is freesync rather than gsync which also sways me to amd. Opinions anyone?

[verbal cairn]

Performance wise i think the 1660>590. However, the 590 is still a great card for 1080p gaming and 8gb of VRAM is definitely a + Imo !

@rustic nymph

[rustic nymph]

hmm, okay thanks @verbal cairn :)

[ancient crystal]

a 590 is just a 580 with some increased clocks iirc

so it's not a particularly special piece of hardware, but a rehash

[slow holly]

I just bought a gtx 1070 with a custom air cooler on it my lord is it goofy looking

It’s was used to be clear

[tender mulch]

Custom air cooler? used from where?

[slow holly]

It’s a Zotac mini gtx 1070 with a arctic accelero xtreme IV (offer up)

It’s a creature

[slender vigil]

I just sold my 1070 lmao

[tender mulch]

Huh

[slender vigil]

And got a RTX 2070 Super

[tender mulch]

That's interesting

[slow holly]

Yes bekora it is

It’s funny looking to say the least

[toxic finch]

Is it worth it to upgrade from a 2060super to a 2080 for 1080 gaming?

[worldly crow]

you should get high frames with a 2060 super at 1080

its about the same as a 1070

unless ur looking for 200+

i mean i do 1440p high frames with a 1070

[toxic finch]

I get 70 on far cry 5 :>

It dips into the 40s sometimes

I use resolution scaling as I was told its additional AA support?

[cerulean rover]

Dont use resolution scaling then

also theres not much need for scaling it up

just use a bit of aa

[swift valve]

I'm a green fanboi
I always recommend nvidia
1660 ti seems like the sweet spot, especially used, while saving up for next gen

[granite juniper]

@worldly crow where are you getting those numbers cause my 1070 ti is about as fast as a 2060, and not close to a 2060 super

[cerulean rover]

I'm a green boi

Team Nvidia until AMD get high end rolled out

[tender mulch]

Eh, AMD has the sweet spot $400 GPU right now

[lone pond]

Yeah but have you ever committed tax fraud

yea me too

[wicked hound]

@slow holly hope you didn't spend more than $230 for that 1070, or close to it

[slender vigil]

I sold my 1070 for 200

[wicked hound]

When?

[lone pond]

Best new/used psu for $150ish, spit rn bois

[slender vigil]

Just a few days ago

[wicked hound]

Lol

Nice job on ripping someone off. Tho at least you made money

[slow holly]

@wicked hound spent 115$ and gave them the gpu I was replacing anyway

[slender vigil]

Ye I got a RTX 2070 Super

[wicked hound]

@slow holly which was?

[gray vapor]

was it working?

[slow holly]

Gtx 1650

[slender vigil]

I found out why I’m getting good FPS I’m bottlenecking my GPU so hard

I’m not getting

[wicked hound]

Oof. Yee that GPU is a scam

[slow holly]

I bought open box like 2-3 months ago

[jade spear]

I just got a GTX 1660 Ti for $219

[gray vapor]

1070 for 200$ is pretty average

[lone pond]

I'm actually looking at the 1650 Super tbh

Some dude was selling a 1070 on hardwareswap for like 180 bucks

but I was 20 bucks short

:\

[wicked hound]

$200 for a used 1070 is pretty bad given the 1660S being $230 new

[slender vigil]

Intel Xeon E5, DDR3 64GB 1600mhz with rtx 2070 s is bad right

[gray vapor]

Well given that the 1070 is 1660 Ti performance

[wicked hound]

You lose a few % that isn't noticable and gain new NVENC

[jade spear]

Which E5? 8c/16t?

[slender vigil]

It’s duel cpu 8 cores the E5 2643

[cerulean rover]

ddr3?

[slender vigil]

Yep

That’s ram

DDR3 64GB 1600 MHZ

[jade spear]

Quad Channel ddr3 is similar to ddr4

[cerulean rover]

E5-2643 is 6c ..?

[slender vigil]

No wonder why I’m getting 50 FPS with gtx 1070 on 1080p 😂

I have duelcore and I see 8

I mean duel cpu

[cerulean rover]

Did you type the wrong part number or smth bc

[slender vigil]

No

2643

[slender vigil]

That’s v2

[gray vapor]

That is v2

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/64587/intel-xeon-processor-e5-2643-10m-cache-3-30-ghz-8-00-gt-s-intel-qpi.html

that is what he has

[slender vigil]

Yep

[cerulean rover]

ah

[jade spear]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32960954313.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.31e63c00v3rHgC&mp=1

[cerulean rover]

I dont know but I think games won't work too well with duel CPUs

I mean games dont do well with server CPUs anyways because of the single core performance

[slender vigil]

I was doing mostly server stuff 4 years ago and a little mc

Thats why I picked up the Xeon

[jade spear]

I saw a review of these xeon's. They work better on modern games that use multiple cores. Older games that only use 1 core suck on them.

[slender vigil]

Im guessing rust is single core

Bc gtx 1070 low settings 1080p 50 FPS

I haven’t tried out my RTX card yet it’s sitting on my desk

[cerulean rover]

neat

[jade spear]

not sure that would fit in my case 🙂

[slender vigil]

Ye it’s hella big

Theres my pc

[jade spear]

is that a dell case or something?

[slender vigil]

Yes

I wasn’t in the gaming stuff that much 4 years ago 😂

[jade spear]

I worked on Dell's for many years until my company switch to Lenovo and HP.

[slender vigil]

What do you prefe

Prefer

HP sucks ass

Imo

[jade spear]

I like Lenovo for laptops. HP or Dell for desktops... makes no difference to me.

[slender vigil]

HP laptops suck ass lol

[jade spear]

Yeah. We got HP laptops one year... never could get the video looking right. Some windows would be invisible. You could see them in the task bar but not on screen. If you guessed where the X was and clicked there, the window would close.

[dreamy dragon]

Swift#4102 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[slender vigil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v97MCL that cpu bc I use vms and stuff

[jade spear]

what was the word? 🙂

[slender vigil]

I said shi

Ffs

[jade spear]

heh

[gray vapor]

Still a swear word

[jade spear]

Whether a word is bad or not is a subjective opinion these days.

[dense flicker]

that word is a swear

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cerulean rover]

Swift, you wanna join me in having 11 infractions?

cause thats how you do it

[slender vigil]

What do you mean

[cerulean rover]

Cursing

[slender vigil]

Lmao

[gray vapor]

keep swearing and the bot can kick and then ban you

[wicked hound]

💩 isn't a swear word but is a bad word, or inappropriate word

[cerulean rover]

yea

I'm 1 warn away from perm ban aparently

[slender vigil]

I dare you to say a swear word xd

[dense flicker]

[wicked hound]

"a swear word"

I said it

[cerulean rover]

A swear word

:O

[wicked hound]

Now where is my cookie?

[gray vapor]

in the trash

[slender vigil]

Here

[wicked hound]

That is a chonky cookie

[cerulean rover]

I wonder if I can somehow OC my 2070 to be at the lvl of 2070 super

[jade spear]

@wicked hound yeah, a word pretty much everyone uses constantly in causal conversation. But if you talk online like you do normally, you get warned. heh

[slender vigil]

I wonder if my 2070 super can overclock to a 2080 super

[cerulean rover]

I mean it seems plausible

Well you can prob try to get to 2080 non-super

[slender vigil]

I know over a 2080 for sure tho

[wicked hound]

I mean isn't it just an 8% OC from 2070S to 2080S?

[tender mulch]

No because the 2080 has more cuda cores, etc

[wicked hound]

2080S perfs about 8% over 2080 iirc

[cerulean rover]

Swift, run 3dmark and gimme da score without oc

Ima see if I can beat the graphics score

I remember getting like >10k

[slender vigil]

I don’t have it in my pc rn

[cerulean rover]

okai

[slender vigil]

I will tomorrow tho

[cerulean rover]

Tomorrow night at this time I'll have a 3800x installed into my pc

or I would be in the process of installing it

[acoustic rock]

nice!

[slender vigil]

Is that a cpu

Oh Ryzen 7

[ember imp]

Nice

[slender vigil]

When your scratching your skin and you peel off your mole

[lone pond]

i'm thinking my 1070 might be bottlenecking my 6700k. it usually gets more utilization unless i turn stuff down to like medium settings

er, well, not necessarily bottlenecking but still this processor could probably handle a more robust graphics card

[tender mulch]

Other way around. CPU feeds GPU. If the CPU load is high, CPU is the slow point

[lone pond]

i may have worded it wrong. gpu sees a lot of high utilization while cpu usually hangs around 60%

guess that just means i have room to upgrade somewhere down the line despite being on basically a dead-end platform lol

[tender mulch]

resolution?

[lone pond]

1080p @75Hz

guess refresh rate doesn't matter but yeah, 1080p

[tender mulch]

I mean, it doesn't seem like it should be holding it back. Although they are from the same era of hardware

[lone pond]

right, that's what i was thinking

[tender mulch]

Honestly, a high GPU useage is pretty normal

[lone pond]

ah okay

[tender mulch]

A good way to tell is to run some benchmarks and compare your performance to other configurations running a 1070

[lone pond]

what programs do you recommend i try for that? did one running furmark and ended up slightly above average on their leaderboard, but i feel like there are probably better programs out there for benchmarking

[tender mulch]

Heaven is a good one

Unengine

Uniengine?

FurMark is OpenGL, not the best test since a lot of games run DirectX

[lone pond]

ahh, gotcha. thanks for the info!

[tender mulch]

Welcome!

[ancient crystal]

wow that's chonky

re: GPU earlier

i was scrolled up

too chonky for my case

the voice in my head telling me to buy a vega 56 and OC it to vega 64 levels so the only impairment is the 12% or whatever missing cores is too great

[tender mulch]

Why? Get something newer and colder

[ancient crystal]

i'

i'm cheap

i might just outright get a 64 too

that seems the most likely

[tender mulch]

how much you gonna spend?

[ancient crystal]

i can get it for $70 less than a 5700 for roughly similar performance (the 64)

$260 seems to be a not uncommon price

and this is from sellers that offer returns

which means they're not trying to screw you

[tender mulch]

1660TI/Super is sub $300. Unless you're gaming at 1440p, it's a slightly better card

[ancient crystal]

not better than a vega 64

[tender mulch]

You didn't say you were buying a 64

you said 56

[ancient crystal]

i said i might buy a 56, but it's not likely and i'll probably get a 64

which is cheaper than a 5700 but runs very close

[tender mulch]

Keep in mind it's older hardware and games are only going to get more intensive. Your choice.

[ancient crystal]

hardware just being older doesn't make it bad

[tender mulch]

IN the end, whatever makes you happy

[ancient crystal]

it's the actual power of the hardware

it's not as if it'll be like "welp, this game is new, i'm going to perform worse"

[tender mulch]

There's also heat and power to consider

[ancient crystal]

i've considered them

i have plenty of time to consider them before the beginning of march when i'll buy a GPU

[tender mulch]

nah, you've already made a decision. 😉

[ancient crystal]

and to reconsider the prices in case they change

i'm not going to fall into that trap

[tender mulch]

What trap? As of now, you've made a decision. When you go to buy, that may change. Nothing wrong with that, is what it is.

[ancient crystal]

it was the winky face

[tender mulch]

Ah. Wasn't sure if you had realized you had already decided as of now

You say you are pondering but in reality, the decision is made.

[lone pond]

well, looks like my system is about average on the superposition leaderboard. works for me 🤷‍♀️

[ancient crystal]

Bekora my mind is always open, but 99% either a Vega 64 or failing reliable and cost efficient sources, an RX 5700

because clearly the reason to buy the V64 would be to cut costs a bit

[tender mulch]

Of course. My job is in sales, I can tell by the way people respond if their mind is made up or not. Like I said, absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just prefer newer hardware if I'm going to spend my hard earned money. Mostly because I only upgrade every 5 years or so and want to be sure the support is there.

[ancient crystal]

i typically upgrade GPUs as the prices lower

[tender mulch]

I never buy the top end

[ancient crystal]

i'm too poor for the top end

[tender mulch]

I might consider something better down the road because I'm still running 1080p/60

[ancient crystal]

i'm running 1080p/144

[tender mulch]

But a new monitor plus gpu= 600-700

for 1440 or something

[ancient crystal]

that's the goal anyway because that's my refresh rate and that's what adaptive sync wants to go for

lower fps will still sync

but 144 is ideal

but of course i want visual fidelity

so i'll tolerate as low as 60

[tender mulch]

Yeah, I'm happy with everything cranked up and a minimum of 60

Below 60 the hitches get to me

[ancient crystal]

what is your GPU

[tender mulch]

RTX2060. Poor decision but at the time, the 5700 wasn't out yet

[ancient crystal]

yeah, it wasn't a poor decision then was it

[tender mulch]

Yeah, kinda. I should have gone 2070. I had always gone 70 series until this one. My gut said 70 series but I bought the 60 anyway

[ancient crystal]

well

today's 70 series are yesterday's 80 series

in terms of where they are on the price/performance graph

wow that's a beautiful typo

similarly today's 60 series are yesterday's 80 series

[tender mulch]

Right, that's why I usually go 70 series, great performance for the 5 years I don't upgrade

[ancient crystal]

er 70 series

not 80

yeah

i just want to drive this monitor

and probably in the future 90Hz VR

good thing VR games are designed to be lighter on the system

you won't see AAA game graphics on a VR game, no way in hell

the performance demands are too high

[tender mulch]

Well yeah, they're 1440p resolution. Also, expect that to change in the coming years

[ancient crystal]

1440p in two displays

and that's the lowest resolution

it'll change eventually but you'll always be able to dial back settings

the one i'm thinking might start making VR a little harder on our systems than we're used to is going to be half life: alyx

[tender mulch]

That's the thing, I don't like to dial back settings. I want to see all the goodness. I suspect I'll be upgrading this GPU a little sooner than I normally do

[ancient crystal]

5700 XT? or 2070S?

[tender mulch]

Well, it will probably be the next generation of cards. I think the 2060 will hold up for another year, maybe two. It's not even a year old yet

[ancient crystal]

yeah probably

next gen will be announced soon

[tender mulch]

Yup

[ancient crystal]

AMD will actually have a high end navi part to put that poor expensive Radeon VII to rest

[tender mulch]

by the time I'm ready it will probably be two generations out

[ancient crystal]

VII stands for Vega II - it costs a lot more than the vegas do on the used market but doesn't quite double their performance

but

it has 16GB of HBM2

so if i had $500 i'd grab one immediately

maybe i should save up a bit for the GPU, and just grab a monster card, or go all in and get a 5700 XT

[summer peak]

for 500 you can get a really good 5700xt that outperforms the VII

just saiyan

[ancient crystal]

it's gotta be a blower

this case is what it is

[tender mulch]

I mean, you're not buying until March

things could change between now and then

[ancient crystal]

if they do change i'd definitely look into an XT

[tender mulch]

If AMD goes balls out and drops a massive gpu hit to nVidia, older gens will get cheap in a hurry

[ancient crystal]

more framerate makes a happy Anni

if AMD replaces the 5700 that would be the ideal

and the XT

because we'd see something more powerful at 5700 prices

[tender mulch]

Hopefully!

[rustic nymph]

Only the future will tell

[ancient crystal]

AMD does a great job targeting the midrange

the VII is a good example of what happens when AMD targets the high end

the performance of that thing is all over the place

it's certainly good, it's not like it's a bad GPU, but when it was released the price was too high for anyone except crazy enthusiasts with money

that's why i guess i'm glad HBM2 is over with

because 16GB of it proved too expensive

a 16GB GDDR6 card would cost considerably less

it was really high performance memory, but the issue is cost, and i think AMD is now over having their high end parts cost an arm and a leg

[tender mulch]

HBM2 was a great idea that didn't pan out

[ancient crystal]

it was too expensive

it really does inject a lot of performance into the GPU

but that doesn't mean anything when nobody can afford it realistically

i remember vega 64s being $700

they'

[rustic nymph]

I mean, as long as they don’t expect the mass market to be forking out the type of cash for it, it won’t be an issue

[ancient crystal]

they're still nearly $300 most of the time on the used market, and on the new market are artificially inflated

well, they need to create products the mass market will buy

that's how you make money

and why this gen (aside from the VII) we didn't see any high end from AMD

the R&D invested in stuff you can't expect the main market of gamers to buy is a huge loss

[rustic nymph]

Maybe they’ve got something in the pipeline

[ancient crystal]

hopefully it's impressive and most importantly at least affordable for the average person with a middle class job

LinusTechTips' video on Radeon VII said "Get a job." jokingly because of how expensive it was

[rustic nymph]

Hopefully, I mean now that they’ve caught up a lot in the cpu area, they can focus more on gpus and improving them

[ancient crystal]

well the new Zen3 chips are gonna be on AM5 apparently

whatever AM5 is

gonna flip if they start using an LGA socket like sTR4

I hate LGA sockets because of their propensity to get bent when switching CPUs

i had to fix one once

i think PGA sockets are the way to go, it's much easier to control whether you bend the pins on the CPU

[tender mulch]

So, AM5 is two generations away

We get one more on AM4

[ancient crystal]

do you think we'll see a Zen2+?

or is that what's going around now

[tender mulch]

No, we are still on Zen+

[ancient crystal]

3xxx chips are Zen2

[tender mulch]

Oh, ya lol

According to what I've read, we get one more generation on AM4. AM5 will be 2021

[ancient crystal]

oh that's good

[tender mulch]

SO there's got to be a generation in between, I can't see AMD sleeping for that long

[ancient crystal]

i'm gonna enjoy my 3900X for $300 😄

[rustic nymph]

has AMD put a roadmap anywhere on what they're planning on doing?

[tender mulch]

Yeah, lemme find it

[rustic nymph]

@ancient crystal how tf did you get it for 300

[ancient crystal]

no it'll be that by the time next gen rolls out

[tender mulch]

SO, Zen 3 will be AM4

[ancient crystal]

because prices will drop

[tender mulch]

Zen 4 will be AM5

[ancient crystal]

oh well that's good to know

[tender mulch]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-4000-rumors-news-specs-features-price-release-date/

[ancient crystal]

it means my B450 is good for another go round

[rustic nymph]

good, wont be broke for a while then

[tender mulch]

Aww poop, that's EPYC

[rustic nymph]

lmao

[tender mulch]

Here we go

Zen 4 will introduce DDR5.

Hence the new socket

[ancient crystal]

ah

well there we go

[lone pond]

hmm I see picasso there

my favorite artist

I modeled my tattoos after one of his drawings

[novel shoal]

is reddit the best place to look for talks on best gpu bios updates?

[shadow glade]

rx570 8gb or 1060 6gb

[ancient crystal]

how much money do you have

this is the main question

what will you spend

better recommendations can be given most likely

[shadow glade]

well around $180 AUD

[ancient crystal]

okay so you're planning on buying used

[shadow glade]

yes

[ancient crystal]

they trade blows

it's hard to recommend one

hang on

i'd say the 570 because 1) more RAM and 2) a lot of benchmarks i see place the 570 as faster on average, though in some games it is not as good as the nvidia card

[rustic nymph]

anni

do you ever log off discord....

[ancient crystal]

not often

being disabled is very isolating so i seek social contact from the internet a lot, and my sleep schedule is absolutely bananas most of the time, so basically no, i am rarely ever off of discord, and i have probably 10 more open besides this one

[rustic nymph]

What disability you got if you don’t mind me asking

[ancient crystal]

lots of stuff in the brain - my disabilities don't affect my intellect but they affect how my brain works and my ability to do things like remember things and keep track of tasks, perform tasks in order, and get the words right when i am speaking, they also affect how i process things, which is actually the major cause of everything so yeah this has been my TED talk

[dreamy dragon]

Ethan Gang#0473 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rustic nymph]

What an exciting ted talk

[ancient crystal]

that's more of a sarcastic remark than anything "this has been my TED talk"

it just means "i've talked enough"

even weirdos like me go to bed, so i'm going to do that

goodnight Ethan

[rustic nymph]

Sleeping is bad

Don’t do it

[ancient crystal]

nonsense

for me a lack of sleep invites a lot of bad stuff

need to let that brain rest

[rustic nymph]

Noooo

Sleeping = the dark side

[ancient crystal]

i find myself awake again, sleeping is hard

[fervent wadi]

if I have a GTX 1060 3gb, what antialiasing should I be using? FXAA, TXAA, SMAA, or MSAA?

[fallen schooner]

OFF

[tender mulch]

Probably FXAA or or SMAA. Depends on the game and the FPS hit from using it. TXAA and SSAA is a pretty hard hit to performance.

[plush hawk]

What's the best GPU I can get that won't be bottlenecked by an i5 6600? I'm currently running a Radeon RX 480, but it seems to run at 100% with my CPU only at 50%. Any suggestions?

[tender mulch]

I would say 1070 level or less. About the same generation of hardware

[plush hawk]

Will it be worth the switch? Noticeable increase in FPS do you think?

[tender mulch]

From a 480? Ya

You aren't running everything maxxed right now, right?

[plush hawk]

I can get ultra settings at about 50-60 fps

[tender mulch]

On newer games?

Then you'll only see an FPS increase

[plush hawk]

I can average about 57 fps in Shadow of the TR on max settings

[tender mulch]

SO then it will just be an FPS increase if you upgrade, not necessarily a quality increase

[plush hawk]

Ok, so not necessarily worth it then? Bear in mind this is at 1080p

[tender mulch]

You're looking at $250-300 to upgrade so that answer is really up to you

1660 ish level is what I would shoot for, 30-40% faster

Depending on the game

[fallen schooner]

1660super

[plush hawk]

Fair enough. Thanks for the advice 🙂

@fallen schooner reasons?

[tender mulch]

Best GPU at that price point

[fallen schooner]

GDDR6

boost in memory speed from 8Gbps to 14Gbps

from the first version of it

just a solid budget card.

[untold trail]

Hey what’s up guys I have a Acer predator helios 300 2018 model has a i7 8750h and a GTX 1060 6gb and tips on making my games run faster like I get frequent fps drops they aren’t bad but it’s noticeable from like 200 to 120 back to 180 to90 etc

[tender mulch]

SOunds like something is running in the background and pinging the CPU useage up

[fallen schooner]

kinda depends on how you have you game graphics set

and that.

[tender mulch]

Or using the hard drive. Do you have an SSD or an HDD?

[plush hawk]

@fallen schooner thanks

[scenic dock]

I have a H87M-E Motherboard and i just ordered a GTX 1650 4GB. I have a i5 4430 processor. I want to stream and record. Any Processor Suggestions?

I want to stream and record Fortnite

[stark plover]

help him out

[tender mulch]

Well, that's going to be a bit rough on that hardware

Checking a couple things..........

[scenic dock]

and um a psu

a cheap one

[tender mulch]

SO, we're going to be looking at the used CPU market. i5-4690 on a budget, i7-4770 if you can find one

And honestly, PSU is one place you don't want to go too budget

[stark plover]

i was thinking more amd

[tender mulch]

Well, they asked for a CPU upgrade for an Intel board on DDR3

Kinda restricted there

[scenic dock]

Intel Core i7-7740X Box for 310 euros

ouch

[tender mulch]

4770

[scenic dock]

i can't find a 4770 in greece

[tender mulch]

NOt 7740

Well, look for the i5 then

[scenic dock]

foudn noe

found one

on a store that is like super close to me

like 5 minutes away

[tender mulch]

For a PSU this one should work

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_3

[scenic dock]

its sold out

1 second

[tender mulch]

Also, for recording, take advantage of NVENC

That's nVidia hardware encoding

[scenic dock]

everything is sold out

for i5-4690

what a boomer

[tender mulch]

Those are the two best for that socket

[scenic dock]

everywhere

[stark plover]

buy a new motherbord

[tender mulch]

At this point I agree. Investing in older DDR3 hardware isn't a good way to spend money

But it's going to be costly, new CPU/RAM/motherboard

three part deal

[scenic dock]

found a i5-4690 for 243 euros

[tender mulch]

That's a lot of money to spend on old hardware

I wonder if we can do better?

Hang on

Might look into an AMD 220g or better, DDR 4 Ram and a B450 motherboard

I don't know where you can buy from so have a look for that?

[scenic dock]

do i need to buy a mother board?

[tender mulch]

DDR4-3200 if you can, 8 GB

Yes

[scenic dock]

that one

[tender mulch]

I know in the US you can probably do that for $250

so hopefully it's similar over there

[scenic dock]

B450 motherboard is 95 euros

[tender mulch]

Good.

[scenic dock]

GTX 1650 4GB was 167 euros

[tender mulch]

That's about right

[scenic dock]

262

i have 360 euros

[tender mulch]

I wasn't counting the PSU and GPU as part of the $250

oof

what's your current GPU?

[scenic dock]

GTX 1050 TI

but

[tender mulch]

Oh, that's not bad

not bad at all

[scenic dock]

Wait

I said but

because....

at first i didn't know

but its a fake..

[tender mulch]

OOF

[stark plover]

got scammed

[scenic dock]

^

[stark plover]

F

[tender mulch]

At this point, considering your budget, I'd just go GPU and PSU then

[stark plover]

where did you buy it from?

[tender mulch]

nVidia GPU can do the encoding

Your CPU will be lacking so you'll have to turn the settings down but it should work

[scenic dock]

So I should not buy any processor?

ok

[tender mulch]

Not if you need a GPU and a PSU

[stark plover]

overlcock it

[scenic dock]

overclock can break it

[stark plover]

epic

[scenic dock]

its dangerous

[tender mulch]

Only if you increase the voltage too much

Keep the voltage low and you'll be fine

Just increasing clocks won't hurt it

It'll get a bit warmer but that's about it

If you can find a cheap REAL 1050 TI used that's a good option also

[scenic dock]

180 euros

[tender mulch]

1650 price new there?

[scenic dock]

1650 is way cheaper

in 3 days i will get it

[tender mulch]

1650 super?

[scenic dock]

no GTX 1650 4GB

a normal one

[tender mulch]

Ok, that should be alright

1650 is faster at fortnite

Another way to speed things up might be an SSD if you don't have one

What's your current PSU?

[scenic dock]

yup im going to buy one

A sd

ssd

my dad told me to buy the GPU first

and then the SSD

[tender mulch]

What power supply do you have, you asked about a new one?

[scenic dock]

@stark plover told me to get a new one

[dreamy dragon]

! | Spinayy#8072 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tender mulch]

What's your current one?

[scenic dock]

or my pc will be trash

PSU-004

[tender mulch]

how many watts?

[scenic dock]

how can i check that

450X Max

450W max

[tender mulch]

You should actually be OK provided it has the required plug for the GPU

[scenic dock]

Noice

[tender mulch]

Just don't expect to play on high settings and record at the same time

But you should be OK

[scenic dock]

no i don't want high settings

i want fortnite all low

[tender mulch]

I would HIGHLY recommend using nVidia Shadowplay

[scenic dock]

and 3d resolution kinda full

like 90% 3d resolution on fortnite or 100%

[tender mulch]

It's a low impact recording software provided by nVidia

[scenic dock]

I know

[tender mulch]

Great!

[scenic dock]

It records clips

like kills

deaths

wins

[tender mulch]

Well, it also streams

[scenic dock]

i tried to record and stream via shadowplay

but it wasn't working

then

i found out

[tender mulch]

Well, that's because of the fake 1050

[scenic dock]

my GPU is fake

exactly

so i should stick with my i5 4430?

[tender mulch]

At this point you don't have the budget to upgrade it.

[scenic dock]

will it stream like 100 fps?

at leasst?

least*

[tender mulch]

I honestly have no idea

[scenic dock]

ok

[tender mulch]

SO I would try what you're getting now

[scenic dock]

im opening fortnite to see how much fps i have

[tender mulch]

If it doesn't work the way you want, then consider an upgrade

[scenic dock]

ok

[ancient crystal]

that feel when you're up until the wee hours of the morning and your alarm is set for 11 and you wake up at 9:20, and just get on newegg discord

wee hours clarified: 5:30 at least

[median pagoda]

Feelsbadman

[cerulean rover]

Feelsweggman

[deft lantern]

feelsneweggman

[ancient crystal]

[sharp aurora]

Wegg Wegg

gg

[brisk flame]

[cerulean rover]

Wegg wegg?

[ancient crystal]

[median pagoda]

Weggne

[median pagoda]

We should do this in general not here

[dense flicker]

[shadow ruin]

I want to remove my graphics card but the safety won’t come undone

What do I do

[median pagoda]

Press it

[shadow ruin]

That don’t seem to be working

[median pagoda]

Hmm

[grand tinsel]

oof

[shadow ruin]

Here’s some more pictures

[grand tinsel]

🤷‍♂️

can one tell me if im going to have clearance issues with the 1660 ti my mother board is the AB350M

[tender mulch]

Clearance issues with what?

It'll clear the ram but if you have a small case it would be worth measuring it

[grand tinsel]

im afraid that the sata ports will get in the way

[tender mulch]

Ah, let me look again

Nah, they'll clear

My card overhangs my Sata ports and doesn't interfere

[grand tinsel]

thanks

i was getting worried

[dreamy dragon]

squidward#3745 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grand tinsel]

i freaking hate this mother board

[woven tartan]

1660ti or Super?

[grand tinsel]

ti

y

[grand tinsel]

cant wait to get my new ram

[dreamy dragon]

squidward#3745 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grand tinsel]

do speeds of ram effect your fps?

[dense flicker]

dude

[tender mulch]

They can but only slightly

[dense flicker]

dont avoid the word filter

[tender mulch]

Rust is just a resource hog period

[grand tinsel]

true

with my new hardware rust is going to be nothing

so what are the specs of your pc?

[tender mulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4QBq3

[grand tinsel]

k

noice build

[tender mulch]

Thx

Regret the 2060

Should have waited

but I jumped on the bandwagon lol

[grand tinsel]

the 2070 s

you could have saved some money on your build

[tender mulch]

I bought the 2060 right when it came out

No supers, no 5700

[grand tinsel]

mm

in the future ima work towards the 2080ti and i9 9900k

it finna be long till i can get that tho

[tender mulch]

The 2060 will last me another year or two. By then I'll make a better decision

I'm still on 1080p, don't want to spend the money for the 1440 monitors, etc

[grand tinsel]

like what's the point for 1440 and 4k gaming

just sharper textures but you loose a lot of your frames

to me 1080p gaming is the sweet spot

[tender mulch]

Right

I'm hoping in a year or two the hardware progresses to make it more feasible

More worth the upgrade cost

[grand tinsel]

i think im done with upgrades

[tender mulch]

Me too for at least 2-3 years

[grand tinsel]

there might be 1 more thing like my psu but other than that im good

[tender mulch]

This does what I want it to. When it doesn't I'll upgrade

Nice build!

That'll be a beast of a gamer

[grand tinsel]

mm

[tender mulch]

Yeah, the 2060 isn't bad for streaming either

Yup

If oyu're going to stream and game, nVidia has done a great job with that

The RTX stuff, well, not ready for Prime Time yet

I haven't tried CPu encoding yet

Mebbe i should for grins and giggles

I'm a casual

I just fire up a stream sometimes because I can

[grand tinsel]

same :/

ima get my dream build one day

BURH

what game do you play

game's*

[fallow berry]

Hi, I am just asking what graphics card I should get for around 600-800 Euro. I am upgrading from a gtx 1060 3gb.

[tender mulch]

Processor?

Resolution?

[fallow berry]

Just got a 60Hz 1080p Monitor and an i7-8700(non k)

[tender mulch]

Stream and game or just game?

[fallow berry]

Kinda both

[tender mulch]

I'd go 2070 Super then. NVENC streaming is top notch

[fallow berry]

Would you say an rtx 2080 super is overkill?

[tender mulch]

Yes

IMO, only needed for high end 1440p or 4K gaming

Kind of a waste for 1080p gaming

[fallow berry]

Friend of mine got an rtx 2080 super and in some games he cant even hit 60 fps at 1080p

[tender mulch]

Well, that may be his processor

Or motherboard or ......who knows

[fallow berry]

He has the same processor I have though.

[tender mulch]

Yeah, CPU could not be feeding the GPU fast enough. Could be hard drive vs SSD, could be any number of things. Could just be a bad driver install too. Or the game. Games like RUST are hard on resources

[fallow berry]

He plays alot of a game called Arma, could that be a big problem?

[slender vigil]

I had a 1070 and was running 50 FPS on rust when my friends with 1060 had 150

[fallow berry]

That's a big oof

[outer juniper]

what would be the AMD equivalent of the 1660ti?

[tender mulch]

5700?

There really isn't one right now

5500XT is slower, 5700 is faster

[outer juniper]

Ok thank, I'm just looking to upgrade my R9 390 but want something relatively cheap that will still be a decent upgrade. cpu is an i7-4820k and I have 32gb of ram

[tender mulch]

nVIdia has a good grip on the mid range market right now

1660-super or TI is a good choice. If you have to go Red, 5700 is a good investment

[outer juniper]

would that bottleneck my cpu though? Full specs are: x79 sabertooth, 32gb ddr3, i7-4820k and currently the r9 390

[tender mulch]

No, I think that pairing would work well with a 1660. Might hold back the 5700 a tad but would be ok

[outer juniper]

yeah i might go for the super, bit cheaper and seem to bench not too far behind the ti

[tender mulch]

yep!

From a 390 it will be a good upgrade

30-50%

[tawdry pond]

Trying to make a PC. What's the best graphics card? And what parts are it compatible with?