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summer peak
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probably a bit outside of your budget at 400

lone pond
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oh

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ok

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thanks

summer peak
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a 2070 super with a good cooler can run 550 or even more

lone pond
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ah ok

wicked hound
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also perf difference of a 2060S to 2070S is like 7% - 10%

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for $100 - $150 more

lone pond
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@lone pond budget for card alone or entire PC??

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card

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oh yeah then what the others said is good

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2060S is what I'd recommend most

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more bang for the buck

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alright

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yeah im probably going to opt for that

summer peak
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lole

ancient crystal
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R9 260

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boy that brings back memories

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not very good ones, either

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i have an RX 460 sitting around here

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2GB of unlimited power

dense flicker
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@spiral timber we do not allow buying or selling pls

summer peak
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oh no I broke the rules by offering my gpu to somebody ๐Ÿ‘€

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am I gonna get banned

dense flicker
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yeah we dont allow trading either

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sorrrryyyyy

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you get a warning because youre generally good

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๐Ÿ™‚

midnight summit
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how does the ryzen rx 5700 compare to the rtx 2070 in your guys' opinions

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my brother got the 2070 and his pc is pretty great but ive been wanting to try amd for a while

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do you guys prefer the nvidia software?

tender mulch
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5700XT is better

midnight summit
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compared to the 2070 super?

tender mulch
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Unless you want to stream, then nVidia is better for NVENC

midnight summit
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have you guys seen any decently priced builds recently that include the 5700

tender mulch
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The 2070 super is about 10% faster

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But it also costs $100 morew

summer peak
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rx 5700 generally outperforms the 2070 (base model) though the difference is extremely minor

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however the rx 5700 is cheaper

tender mulch
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5700XT is great for 1440P or less and VR gaming

summer peak
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the rx 5700xt is about the same price as the 2070 but performs as a 2070 super

midnight summit
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so i might as well get the 5700xt if im going to pay that much?

summer peak
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unless you want to stream, yes

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nvidia is better for streaming because its hardware encoder (nvenc) is basically free

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performance wise

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compared to AMD

tender mulch
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Save the $100 unless you'll be streaming

summer peak
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if you do want to get an RX 5700xt look at sapphire and powercolor. The red dragon, red devil, pulse, and nitro+ are all fantastic options

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the red devil and nitro+ are best for overclocking

midnight summit
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also back to that build question about one including a 5700 or the xt version, have you guys seen any?

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sorry if im in the wrong chat for that

summer peak
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I'm not sure what you mean?

tender mulch
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Uh

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same as every other build

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just swap the GPU

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NOthing special about it

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If your brothers build ruins great, take his build, put the 5700XT in it and wave the extra $100 in his face

midnight summit
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@summer peak just like any build that decently priced that includes the 5700xt

summer peak
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I can put together one for you if that's what you mean

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any particular requirements?

midnight summit
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@tender mulch i might just do that

tender mulch
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That was a joke but....you do you! LOL!

midnight summit
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what do you mean visi? I'm pretty entry level when it comes to computers, ive just been starting to research because the new gen of gaming looks interesting

tender mulch
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Like, do you want to do Photoshop? Videos? Stream to Twitch? Browse the web?

midnight summit
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like ive been watching just benchmark tests and seen the 5700 run some games pretty well on ultra so i guess thats the standard

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browse and new games well

summer peak
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what new games?

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cause there's a big difference between like

midnight summit
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assassins creed games and probably like not necessarily new games but popular fps's

summer peak
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overwatch, and like... I don't know rdr2

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lemme see what I can do, what sort of budget are you working with?

midnight summit
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ow and r6 are my main ones for the fps

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like 1250ish

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is that low

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i think my brother got his in for 1500

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ive got decent peripherals, i just want to switch to desktop because the laptop my brother gave me is really inconsistent

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i helped him pick out parts for his pc but it was really just a matter of looking at what was compatible, im not sure what the performance to cost was on them

summer peak
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1250 is fine

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1440p beast

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the stock cooler on the 3700x will do a light OC, but if you want to overclock more slap in a better cooler

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that will chew through any game you throw at it

midnight summit
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how large is the difference in performance between a 5700 and the xt

summer peak
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10-15% depending on the game

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If you'd like I can swap that out for a 5700, but I didn't since you said 1250

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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with a decent 5700

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the same 5700 I have actually

midnight summit
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op

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whoops

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oh you have one yourself?

summer peak
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yep

midnight summit
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how do you like it?

summer peak
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I use it for VR every day and it's great

midnight summit
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also, how often do parts like that go on sale?

summer peak
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the stock 5700/xt had some overheating issues and were loud, but the sapphire pulse I have is cool and quieet

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Pretty regularly, there's always discounts going on on something

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the rx 5700 I put in that build is 20 off atm

midnight summit
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oh cool, yeah my brother does vr sometimes

summer peak
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pcpartpicker is nice because it will look for and show you the best deal going for any given part

midnight summit
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does it do well with compatibility?

summer peak
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pretty well

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but it's not gospel

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just because it says parts work together doesn't mean it's a good idea to use them together

midnight summit
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yeah, it seemed like my brother was throwing in just anything and having me verify it for him

summer peak
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like sometimes a motherboard will work with a really high end cpu but it will have bad vrms which can overheat

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or sometimes a psu will work with a gpu but the gpu will draw too much power

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or whatever

midnight summit
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does putting an amd processor with an nvidia gpu bode well

summer peak
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it's fine

midnight summit
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ah, thats good, i wasnt sure if thatd be problematic

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is there any specification for that case?

ancient crystal
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regular 5700 and 2600, i think that will be an okay match

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for me, that is

midnight summit
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for like higher end gaming?

ancient crystal
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well 1080p @144Hz

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mostly playing narrative driven games and SC2

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SC2 likes a good GPU, though

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lots going on and people forget those little models are made up of quite a few polygons

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i probably will play some high level stuff but not too much, but i'd like a GPU that lasts me a little while

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i don't want to be out seeking another one any sooner than a year

midnight summit
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how long would a build like the one that visi put together last

ancient crystal
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can't say

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because i can't predict the pace which technology moves at

summer peak
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Probably 3-4 years

ancient crystal
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maybe visi will know more

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yes

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there we go

summer peak
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hard to say for sure but that's a safe bet

midnight summit
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dang

summer peak
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generally you can upgrade your gpu and the cpu will last a bit longer, however

winged gull
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I had my old PC with a 390x for like 3 years

summer peak
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at least in my experience

ancient crystal
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is 2600/5700 a bad idea?

summer peak
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It's not, that's what I run

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but he did say 1250 budget, so I went with the 3700x

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better performance and more wiggle room with multithreading scaling

midnight summit
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what would you have changed had i said like 1000

summer peak
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3600, cheaper motherboard, cheaper psu maybe

ancient crystal
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i'll get the 2600 and a good quality motherboard, nicer cooler (because the process of installing a wraith stealth requires a lot more pressure and suffering than i can handle) in the form of a hyper T2

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current motherboard isn't so hot

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B350, showing up with issues running a 2nd gen ryzen 3

summer peak
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yeah that'll happen

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that's why I went ahead and put an x570 with the 3700x

ancient crystal
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so i'm getting a B450

summer peak
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works by default, it's made for it

ancient crystal
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and i can upgrade to a 3700 later when they're made to be cheap by Zen3

summer peak
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๐Ÿ‘

ancient crystal
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since i'll be able to upgrade my BIOS and all that

summer peak
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I'm good with my 2600 for now, since I don't really do anything super cpu heavy

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it's doing VR just fine which is my main use case

ancient crystal
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yeah neither do i, i just want to play vidya and have a speedy experience

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speaking of which, i have this old SATA M.2 drive that's like 256gb, gonna install windows on it ๐Ÿ˜„

winged gull
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what would you guys say is the most critical component for getting boot times down?

summer peak
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nice

midnight summit
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in what case would have added a cooler

ancient crystal
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it's better than not having an SSD at all

summer peak
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a good ssd

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get a pci-e m.2 ssd

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will cut boot times down to nothing

ancient crystal
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i will do that

summer peak
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the sabrent rocket is price effective

ancient crystal
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i'll get one that's 2TB so i can install games on it/have some media on it

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and all my programs

summer peak
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I personally only have a sata 2.5" ssd

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adata su800

tender mulch
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I have three of those

ancient crystal
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that's a good SSD though

summer peak
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ye

tender mulch
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Samsung 970's I picked up for like $50 each last year

summer peak
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it's good enough for me to be happy

tender mulch
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I REALLY want m.2 though

dreamy dragonBOT
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Vlady#8888 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

winged gull
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damn it

summer peak
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pg13 language

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don't swear bud

winged gull
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I got a 500GB 660p M.2 a few years back for like $120CAD which was a fricken steal

summer peak
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660p is cost effective too

winged gull
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pg13 my luscious behind

summer peak
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I didn't make the rules I just follow 'em

winged gull
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yeah that's tru

tender mulch
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MEE6 is ruthless

winged gull
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it's just hard to swap between my Discord servers and remember that this is the only pg13 one

summer peak
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same

ancient crystal
winged gull
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Mee6 can eat my old hard drives

summer peak
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I normally swear like a sailor

midnight summit
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fax

summer peak
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that's a good b450 @ancient crystal

ancient crystal
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i curse like a sailor

half pilot
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I foresee that being an issue here as well

summer peak
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good pick

ancient crystal
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it doesn't get better for ITX

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especially that M.2 slot

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no tiny screw to lose

winged gull
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Alright, so if I wanted a pretty good PC would pairing the 3600 with the 5700x be pretty good?

summer peak
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yes

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the 5700xt you mean?

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yeah it's a good matchup

winged gull
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was thinking of starting with a decent CPU that I could overclock the heck out of in the future and just worry about upgrading the GPU

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yeah xt sorry

summer peak
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I've said it before, I'll say it again, if you're getting a 5700xt be sure to get a sapphire pulse, powercolor red dragon, Sapphire nItro+, or powercolor red devil

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the first two are fine if you aren't OCing, the latter two are best if you're OCing

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all the other coolers have issues

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IE small thermal pads, bad heatsinks, etc

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the 5700/xt line is rough

winged gull
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ahhhh good to know

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Would you recommend any other GPUs?

summer peak
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it's like most AIB manufacturers didn't actually try

lone pond
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best thermal pads for cpu?

winged gull
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maybe from team green?

summer peak
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You're paying more for similar performance with nvidia in that price range

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but if you must, get a 2070super or 2060 super

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they're both 100 more than their AMD counterparts

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If you need the NVENC encoding though, for streaming or whatever

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it's the only real way to go

tender mulch
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If you have ANY interest in Ray Tracing, please don't go 2060. My worst decision ever lulz

ancient crystal
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i am forced to get a blower fan which just sucks (heh) because i can't get the nice powercolor 5700

summer peak
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I don't say this lightly because people say it about VR all the time and it kills me -- raytracing is currently a gimmick.

winged gull
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So what really is the difference between team red and green right now for GPUs?

summer peak
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It won't be in the future, but at the moment it doesn't add to the game experience in any way.

winged gull
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cause I know the difference for CPUs for the most part

ancient crystal
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nvidia costs more money

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AMD uses a little more power

summer peak
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The difference between AMD and Nvidia, at least in the 300-500 dollar price range, is that you pay about 100 dollars more with Nvidia but get NVENC (hardware encoding) and cuda cores if that's something you need (and if you don't know what they are, chances are you don't need them, they're pretty niche in terms of usage outside of games and AMD's equivalent works fine for games)

ancient crystal
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i'd never use nvenc to encode video anyway, the quality isn't near as good as software encoders out there

summer peak
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It is basically free though, for people that want to game and stream on the same rig

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comparatively anyway

winged gull
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ah

ancient crystal
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for streaming? yeah a good option

summer peak
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I'd highly recommend going AMD in that price range

ancient crystal
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i was thinking for encoding video files

summer peak
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I don't say this because of some misplaced brand loyalty, it's just the better deal as a consumer.

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I recommend Nvidia cards in other price brackets.

winged gull
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Well if I was gonna stream I would probably buy an addon card when I get big enough, or dual system cause I'd love to flex my streamer bucks

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XD

ancient crystal
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streamer bucks are such a rare thing

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like getting them

winged gull
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One of my friends isn't that popular and streaming as a side gig is netting him a decent amount of cash

summer peak
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If you have regular viewers you'd be surprised how often they'll donate, even if you don't have a huge following

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it won't earn you a living, but

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it'll get you enough to get a nice streaming setup if it's your hobby

winged gull
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it's paid for his gaming rig a few times over and like all his bills, then his main job is paying for everything else

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exactly

ancient crystal
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i know streamers who earn a living but it's usually because they're famous for something in particular

summer peak
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yep

winged gull
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by bills I mean electricity and internet

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yep

summer peak
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anyway yeah, AMD is really the go to in that price range for the best price to performance benefits

ancient crystal
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like one streamer I know of does a lot of unique variety stuff along with games, she engages her audience really well

summer peak
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unless you need a feature that nvidia offers, like I said

winged gull
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So, 3600 with a 5700xt

summer peak
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good matchup for sure

winged gull
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cool, I'll try building systems around that

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look for good deals for everything else

summer peak
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make sure to check in with people about the motherboard and power supply

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those are two things you don't want to skimp on

winged gull
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yeah don't worry, not my first build ๐Ÿ˜›

summer peak
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if one of those goes, the whole system could go

winged gull
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and I'm in IT

summer peak
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๐Ÿ‘

winged gull
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I know the importance for over bugeting PSUs and having a good enough Mobo

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at least a 30% overhead for Power is always needed

summer peak
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sorry for assuming, it's just... You wouldn't believe how many times I see people trying to get like, no name OEM power supplies to run a 2080 or whatever

winged gull
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50% if you're looking to upgrade for he same system for a while

summer peak
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better safe than sorry with warnings lol

summer peak
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don't get that

winged gull
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oof

summer peak
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it's really, really bad

ancient crystal
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i'm not getting it lmao

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it's just super weird

winged gull
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but but but.... T H I C C

midnight summit
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thicc

summer peak
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it's really bad

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look up the gamers nexus review of it

winged gull
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How could ANYTHING thicc be bad?

summer peak
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there's only 4 good 5700/xt coolers

tender mulch
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THICC is SUCC

midnight summit
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fax

winged gull
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Naw it's good to know, I saved your recommendations for the 5700xt cause I am serious about getting the card

summer peak
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dunno why so many AIB manufacturers dropped the ball with these gpus

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it can be done well, those 4 cards are proof of that

midnight summit
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do any of you play on ps4 btw

summer peak
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it's like the rest didn't try

midnight summit
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play r6 specifically

tender mulch
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Conspiracy theory: nVidia paid them to install crappy coolers

summer peak
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maybe lol

tender mulch
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j/k

ancient crystal
summer peak
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most of them make both

ancient crystal
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my case is bad

summer peak
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powercolor and sapphire are the two good companies and they only make AMD coolers

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so it's really possible

winged gull
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honestly, just buy the cheapest version of the 5700xt that runs a good clock and has a good bin, then just strip it down yourself and slap new thermal paste and coolers on right? XD

ancient crystal
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i didn't realize it was bad to begin with

summer peak
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@winged gull you could watercool a reference 5700xt

ancient crystal
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but it'll block about half the cooling fans with the power supply

summer peak
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it works pretty well

winged gull
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I bet it does, but watercooling is a smidge above my budget for right now

ancient crystal
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blower's the only way to not overheat your card with it

winged gull
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I would love to get to watercooling eventually

summer peak
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or the red dragon

winged gull
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maybe I'll buy the pump and some soft lines to start

summer peak
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right now this is 20 off

ancient crystal
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i'd love to do watercooling but my dumb butt would just spill it all over my case

summer peak
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the xt has the same ones, but I'd recommend splurging a little and getting the red devil or nitro+ variants if you get the 5700xt

ancient crystal
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also Visi the problem is the location of the PCIe slot

winged gull
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cool, my first GPU was sapphire

summer peak
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got a pic? @ancient crystal

ancient crystal
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being in super close proximity to the power supply

summer peak
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just get a new case

ancient crystal
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i don't actually because the system isn't built yet

summer peak
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what case are you looking at

ancient crystal
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i bought and am in possession of a define nano S

summer peak
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oof yeah that's rough

ancient crystal
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it's okay though

summer peak
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smothering half of the cooler on a dual axial cooler

ancient crystal
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blower won't hurt anything, it'll just be loud

summer peak
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maybe go nvidia tbh

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nvidia has better blowers

ancient crystal
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i don't want to pay extra

summer peak
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yeah but the stock 5700's are...

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well

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I mean it's fine I guess... they just run really hot

ancient crystal
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i figured it would

summer peak
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like 80-90c under load

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hot

ancient crystal
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nice, just like my old blower HD7950

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lol

summer peak
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oof

ancient crystal
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that system i actually sold because it was generating so much heat that i was getting hot because i was in too small of a room

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i used it as a space heater in winter

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but part of the problem with it is that it also had an FX-8350

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and those are just... blast furnaces for your computer

unkempt crater
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Have a friend who still drives one

ancient crystal
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oof

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does he just like not use heat in winter

unkempt crater
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And also has 5 box fans in his room

ancient crystal
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lol

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me when i was living in the basement one winter with a few roommates in the house

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just bought that PC

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if it got cold, i played games

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that is actually one of my favorite builds though

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i bought a bloody biostar motherboard that was just bad because i had so much experience with biostar working really well

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one of my biostar motherboards from like 10 years ago still works perfectly

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the people i sold it to for $900 are still using it

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i later befriended them through some mutual friends and we were talking about it

unkempt crater
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Dang

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I've never had one

ancient crystal
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well biostar is sort of

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you either get 5-star

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or total DOA

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it's a gamble

runic trail
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I'm planning to upgrade my GPU but what to? I have an RX 560 2GB

ancient crystal
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and it's skewed toward the DOA side

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what is your motherboard

runic trail
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My budget is like 220$

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ASUS ROG B450-F Gaming

ancient crystal
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CPU?

runic trail
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2700X

ancient crystal
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5700 or 5700 XT, powercolor is a good bet

runic trail
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But my budget is 220$

ancient crystal
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something about a red devil and a nitro+

runic trail
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Isn't that like 400$?

ancient crystal
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oh right

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hang on let me look at some nvidya stuff for you

runic trail
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Okay thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

ancient crystal
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but it's an excellent card for 1080p

runic trail
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Oh okay

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Is there anything else?

hard wren
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nah spend like 10-20 more for the super

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1660super

ancient crystal
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yeah that one i posted was the super

hard wren
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oh

runic trail
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No that's regular 1660

ancient crystal
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oh really? i completely missed that

summer peak
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yeah that's a regular 1660

ancient crystal
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i searched for super

summer peak
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still probably the best around that price

runic trail
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Is a 590 good?

summer peak
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it's ok

hard wren
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Zotac around 220ish i think

summer peak
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about on part with the 1660

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so if you can find a 590 cheaper than a 1660 go for it

summer peak
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you might get a few less frames, but

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work within your budget

runic trail
summer peak
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yes

runic trail
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That 1660 Super is 1 fan

summer peak
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that 1660 super would still outperform the 590 significantly

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even with 1 fan

runic trail
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I've also heard about the 1650 Super, is that any good?

unkempt crater
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Worse

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By a fair bit

ancient crystal
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looks really good

runic trail
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Okay I'll see if I can go with the EVGA 1660S

ancient crystal
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the tuf is better

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actually

runic trail
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How come?

ancient crystal
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asus generally makes better stuff

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at least i think

hard wren
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whoa now I wouldnt say that

ancient crystal
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why not

hard wren
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EVGA is really good at the PSU GPU thing

ancient crystal
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i mean evga has a good warranty, that's their thing

hard wren
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and their customer service is awesome

ancient crystal
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so maybe that's a better idea?

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i have had to use evga customer service

hard wren
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but I would go asus and save $10 its the same card

runic trail
ancient crystal
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it is not a super

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it performs a significant bit less fast

runic trail
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Yeah but it's cheaper ๐Ÿ˜›

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Oh

hard wren
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but $20....

ancient crystal
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$20 for GDDR6

runic trail
hard wren
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ASUS

ancient crystal
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either ASUS or EVGA should be the best

runic trail
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On the ASUS one, the fans are smaller

ancient crystal
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smaller fans don't matter

hard wren
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its not all about size

runic trail
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๐Ÿ˜‰

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But wouldn't that be worse cooling?

ancient crystal
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they probably perform better, zotac is always on the cheap side

runic trail
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Because I plan on overclocking

lone pond
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every females I ever know told me sizes matter

hard wren
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since you dont know how fast each fan is spinning we cant make that call

lone pond
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but here you are saying sizes don't matter?

runic trail
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LUL

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Is it a small card?

hard wren
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"Not the size but the motion in the ocean"

runic trail
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it's 8 inches

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smaller than my

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nvm

midnight summit
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clowned

runic trail
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the EVGA card is 10.55 inches

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and the ASUS is 8.11 inches

hard wren
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If you want to spend $10 for 2.44" thats all you

runic trail
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oh yeah

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okay small d- nevermind it is

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small one it is

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heheh

midnight summit
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whats the major problem with looking at prebuilt pcs online in your guys' opinion

runic trail
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Service Fee

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Logos

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PSU cables

hard wren
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it costs them money to put it together

runic trail
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that's what Service Fee is..

hard wren
#

and they buy the cheapest parts possible to do so

runic trail
#

Yup

#

Was typing that ๐Ÿ˜›

#

That's really all the problems with them

midnight summit
#

so a pc with a 5700 xt could have one of the trashy ones and id be none the wiser

hard wren
#

That and a 10 year old could build a PC

midnight summit
#

too bad im 9

runic trail
#

LUL

winged gull
#

wait, would a 1660S be better than a 5700?

hard wren
#

only one more year....

runic trail
hard wren
#

@winged gull I would guess no

winged gull
#

The clock speeds are very similar and so it the memory, am I missing something?

runic trail
hard wren
#

@summer peak he wants to know if a 1660S is better than a 5700

summer peak
#

lol

runic trail
#

The 5700 is better.

#

I just linked something for reasoning.

summer peak
#

rx 5700 is equivalent to a 2060 super

midnight summit
#

thank god visi is here

hard wren
#

I let Visi handle all the AMD smackdowns

winged gull
#

tru

summer peak
#

It's not even like I'm an AMD fanboy it's just at the low end and the mid/high end they have better deals right now

runic trail
winged gull
#

I was only looking at the clock speeds and memory of the cards

midnight summit
#

what is the 5700 xt equivalent to

runic trail
#

@winged gull Depending on the brand of the GPU, the clock speeds can be different

lone pond
#

The hamilton beach 4 slice stainless steel 1500w

hard wren
#

I am team green fanboy though so I tend to be bias

summer peak
#

@midnight summit 2070 super

runic trail
winged gull
#

@runic trail I think what I failed to notice was the amount of processors/cores

runic trail
#

Yes sirrr.

winged gull
#

cause more of them at the same speed still means more fast

#

woops

midnight summit
#

epic, thank you

winged gull
#

@summer peak now what is the major difference between the 5700 and the xt model? Is it possible to just clock the 5700 to make up for the difference?

runic trail
#

Clock speed

#

and

#

idk

summer peak
#

No, but you can get pretty close with flashing the xt bios onto a 5700

#

it lacks a few stream processors among other things

winged gull
#

hmmmmmm that's interesting

runic trail
summer peak
#

they're the same chip, in the end

#

the 5700 is just cut down a bit

runic trail
#

You know what, I'll just save up for a 5700XT

#

would that be better?

#

And if I can't, I'll go with the 1660S

summer peak
#

bruh

winged gull
#

yeah it's just that up ere in good ol Canadia the xt is actaully significantly more

summer peak
#

"200"

"but now I'll pay 450"

#

smh

runic trail
#

IT'LL TAKE A FEW MONTHS OKAY ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

summer peak
#

just pick a pricepoint you can afford and be realistic

runic trail
#

The 200 would take atleast 2 weaks

#

okay an RTX Titan it is.

summer peak
#

don't try to spend money you don't have

midnight summit
#

he's a gamer

lone pond
#

what?

#

gamer?

winged gull
#

Titan comes with a student discount up here

lone pond
#

that's so extreme

runic trail
#

ikr

#

im extreme gamer if you couldn't tell

midnight summit
#

that's my entire refund from my uni

runic trail
#

like 9 year old gang, where you at

winged gull
#

make sure all your PC parts have "Gamer" clearly written on the box @midnight summit

runic trail
#

@winged gull noted

lucid matrix
#

im kinda at cross roads

winged gull
#

๐Ÿ“

lone pond
#

dude I always wanted to be a gamer

runic trail
#

hahah

lone pond
#

but I'm not cool enough to be one

midnight summit
#

if it isnt gamer, i dont want it

runic trail
#

you no gamer

#

i gamer

lone pond
#

sup dudes

midnight summit
#

hello

winged gull
#

oh god, we have summoned a wave of people by talking about "gamer"

lucid matrix
#

I have an 8 pin power cord and i want to upgrade from my rx 580 8 gig any suggestions?

winged gull
#

do you only have 1 8pin left?

hard wren
#

get 2 8 pin power cords?

lucid matrix
#

i only have 1

#

: (

hard wren
#

do you have a 6+2 cord?

winged gull
#

u sure? cause sometimes the 8-pin has another 8-pin attached to it

lucid matrix
#

its just an 8 pin

hard wren
lucid matrix
#

nope

#

just 8 pin

hard wren
#

need a new power supply then

runic trail
#

throw your gpu at the ground

#

and all is fixed

lone pond
#

I hate that 6+2 pin

#

so much

hard wren
#

everyone hates that cord

runic trail
#

first throw your gpu at the ground then your psu

lucid matrix
#

kk

runic trail
#

all will be fixed bb

lucid matrix
#

love u

runic trail
#

love you oto

#

too*

hard wren
#

I even have its pic saved to throw it up in situations like this lol

runic trail
#

๐Ÿ˜‰

#

@hard wren sounds you're talking about your ex?

hard wren
#

LOL

midnight summit
#

hey gamers, is anyone also on ps4

runic trail
#

me

#

PS4 and PC

midnight summit
#

do you play r6

runic trail
#

no but I want to get it

midnight summit
#

if you do, hmu

#

im trash

runic trail
#

we can be trash together

winged gull
#

@lucid matrix what's the Wattage of your PSU and what are your other components?

hard wren
#

yeah if the PSU has enough watts you could get what a double molex to 8 pin adapter or something....?

winged gull
#

it's possible to get converters or you can just look at some of team green's founder edition cards which usually have 8 pin connectors

hard wren
#

found one

#

$8 2 pack

winged gull
#

ez

lucid matrix
#

@winged gull 600w

winged gull
#

you have tons of room for any card you want @lucid matrix

#

you might just need a conversion cable like Nilbo showed above

wicked hound
#

@lucid matrix more like what's your PSU? May not have 600w on 12v rail, or something else

digital heath
#

Is 650 watt PSU enough for a 2080 Super? Don't really think of overclocking

hard wren
#

it should be yes depending on the cpu

summer peak
#

do not use molex to 8 pin adapters

#

for one thing 8 pin pulls more than what 2 molex connectors can pull

#

for another thing those cables are notoriously bad and always catch fire

#

there's no quality control

#

you're asking for a fire

#

@lucid matrix

quartz patio
#

@lucid matrix Rather just get a PSU with an 8pin it would be better and will cost you less in the long run

summer peak
#

If you mess with the adapter, you'll probably fry your whole system.

quartz patio
#

Converters arent the way to go on a system it always messes something up in your system trust us we are speaking out of experience here, rather just buy the PSU you need and it wont cost you as much as buying the converters and a week or so later you need to buy a new GPU and PSU and you might just need to buy an entire new System at the end of all of it where it would have cost you just a PSU

dark laurel
#

what good graphic cards are there for around $450 AUD?

#

It would be great if someone could tell me as this is my first pc

quartz patio
#

id go for that

dark laurel
#

thank you very much

quartz patio
#

or you can go for the Rx 5700 its also a good card

dark laurel
#

ill look into that

#

would a 1660 ti be worth it as well?

quartz patio
#

its an okay card but the Rx 5700 does give you more FPS in Most games than what the 1660ti does

dark laurel
#

alright

#

thank you

summer peak
#

idk aud at all but if the 5700 is within your budget, get it

#

it's on par with the 2060 super

dark laurel
#

ok cool

#

its a little over my budget but i can see if i can get it

summer peak
#

if that's over your budget the next best thing is the 1660 super

#

which is cheaper than the 1660ti and virtually the same performance

quartz patio
#

well you did ask for a $450 card and the Rx 5700 is $405.99

summer peak
#

he said aud

#

also the 5700xt you linked, also a bad cooler for it

dark laurel
#

one of my friends told me to get this

summer peak
#

1660super should be cheaper than the ti

#

and performs almost identically

#

as in sub 5% difference, closer to 1% difference

dark laurel
#

oh ok

#

so cheaper but same performance?

summer peak
#

pretty much

#

you might lose 1-2 frames but

#

it's like 50 dollars cheaper

#

iirc

#

random video so take it with a grain of salt but

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

dark laurel
#

alright ill look into it

#

thank you very much

quartz patio
#

well i dont know much about the Rx590 as its fairly new to me but id go Radeon instead of Nvidia

summer peak
#

Yeah, the rx 590 isn't far behind the 1660 super, but new the prices are pretty similar so

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

if you can get a good deal on a used 590 it might be worth looking into

dark laurel
#

alright

quartz patio
ancient crystal
#

the infamous fatboy

#

wasn't it XFX who did that THICC RX 5700

#

someone in their marketing team...

glossy cloak
#

I got the 1660 s

#

I really like it

fallow slate
#

I'm torn between the 5700 XT and the 2070 super. I won't be doing any 4k gaming, and possibly sticking with 1080p resolution since the Asus 144 hz monitor I currently have is good enough. However, I have read on Reddit that the 5700s seem to have an issue with gaming at 1080p, is there any truth to this?

fallen schooner
#

5700xt

#

there isn't an issue

#

with 1080p

fallow slate
#

So possibly the subreddit I read is just someone screwing something up?

hushed stirrup
#

Perhaps it was the game that has some issue?

fallow slate
#

I guess my next question would be which 5700 XT? I'm ruling out the red devil, for reasons.

hushed stirrup
#

I know some of the most recommended would be:

  1. PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 5700 XT.
  2. SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RX 5700 XT 8G GDDR6.
    If anyone could confirm that would be great.
wicked hound
#

Or Sapphire Nitro Pulse

fallow slate
#

@hushed stirrup thank you for the link. Actually watched that exact video earlier this morning, which is what prompted my earlier question.

hushed stirrup
#

I think most of the recommened one are these few. Even most review also recommend these few.

fallow slate
#

Yeah. The subreddit discovery came from someone in another discord. Guess I should know better than to fall down the subreddit hole.

dreamy dragonBOT
dreamy dragonBOT
dreamy dragonBOT
lone pond
#

Hey guys where does the 5700 xt land in comparison with Nvidia cards?

hard wren
#

2060S - 2070S range

lucid matrix
#

Iโ€™m back

#

imma go get me a 2060 s

#

now hereโ€™s da real question

#

founders editon or something else

fervent shore
#

Strix rog because why not

abstract monolith
#

I wanna buy a rx 5700 xt thicc just because of it being named thicc

summer peak
#

Don't.

#

It's honestly awful.

abstract monolith
#

I know Iโ€™m dead set on another graphics card

fallow slate
#

Gamers Nexus did not think much of the thicc.

summer peak
#

Because it's bad lole

fallow slate
#

I'm most likely going with the Sapphire Nitro+.

summer peak
#

The pulse, the red dragon, the nitro+, and the red devil are the way to go. The first two if you don't want to overclock, the latter two if you do.

#

Good choice.

fallow slate
#

I probably won't OC immediately, but it's there for when I get around to it.

lone pond
#

RX 5500 XT or RX 580?

heady flare
#

5500xt my opinion

magic pebble
#

originally they said the 5500xt was going to perform close to the rx580, but it looks like its performing closer to the rx570 in the 2 reviews I read this morning. That could change greatly with drivers and maybe even different reviews. There were some benches where the 5500xt was doing really well.

summer peak
#

In the reviews I've seen the 5500xt is on par with the 1650 super/1060/580

#

they're all sort of within a few frames of eachother

#

so it really just depends on what price you find it for I guess

wicked hound
#

1650S tbh. AMD has no specific benefits unlike Nvidia with CUDA, NVENC, less power consumption (if you're short on PSU)

#

Also $10 cheaper than 5500xt

inland cave
#

The card is an rx570

dense flicker
#

is that coming out of the card?

tender mulch
#

We ogt him in another channel

#

RGB plug

dense flicker
#

oh

abstract monolith
#

Should I just go for an rtx 2060 super?

summer peak
#

what's your use case

#

are you going to be streaming?

abstract monolith
#

I wanna be doing 1440p gaming and yeah I was gonna try and start streaming with a guy I know

summer peak
#

If you're going to stream NVENC is really nice to have, so go for a 2060 super.

It's worth noting though, that the rx 5700 is a lot cheaper and performs as well or better than the 2060 super (but again, it lacks the hardware encoder for streaming, so you might see worse performance while streaming)

abstract monolith
#

Iโ€™ll look into it

split hearth
#

I saw JayTwoCents video today and he mention radeon having streaming built in to Watt man software

#

Maybe is good ThinkingEgg

tender mulch
#

Nope, not good. From what I've heard anyway. OBS is king.

split hearth
#

200Sad I really hoped that would give amd the edge they needed

summer peak
#

I mean it works

#

but nvenc is practically free in terms of performance

#

so nvidia is king still

ancient crystal
#

what is this RX 5500XT

granite juniper
#

an overpriced 1660

ancient crystal
#

i'm curious

#

they're not cheap enough - they're on par pricewise with the 1660 Super and don't seem to perform as we

#

well

#

i'm considering the 4GB irrelevant of course

hushed stirrup
#

Yeah, most tech youtubers were quite disappointed with AMD releasing an overpriced version.

split hearth
#

Ive seen 3 videos today saying 1660 super is better card Distraught

ancient crystal
#

well of course it is? it competes with the RX 5700

#

oh wait read that wrong

#

1660 instead of 2060

lone pond
#

Question:
I have a 1050 ti graphics card
I am getting a new rtx 2060
Can they run together and if so,
How?

#

no

jagged pier
#

1050ti as phyx l0l

lone pond
#

why would you want them to run together?

#

its not possible dude

#

youd need the same graphics cards

#

and mabye a sli bridge

#

best scenario I can think off is you use the 2060 to game and the 1050 ti to stream

jagged pier
#

isnt that only for sli, but nonsli is basically useless right

lone pond
#

but no games run good on sli anymore

#

or applications

#

nobody uses it anymore

#

Cuz I'm looking right now and some guy with a weird accent is making a 980ti and a work gtx 1070 together

#

don't listen to obscure ppl

#

not all ppl youtube are smart

#

me smarter better than them

#

Its the first result when you look up 2 graphic card together

#

why would you think of searching for something like 2 graphic card together

#

How would you phrase it?

#

I don't

#

because no games will ever support something like that

#

SLI or not

#

wuuut there's a reason why people upgrade

#

instead of " hey I'm getting the 2060 to add to my 1050 ti "

#

And if it were possible whats the point of not asking ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

#

because it's not

#

That's not what I'm saying

#

Why would questions exist if everyone knew everything?

#

you don't ask weird questions

#

like " can your sister be your brother?"

#

it's common sense

#

If no one asked questions like, hey can I suck one of these cows 4 dicks" we wouldn't have milk

#

............

nocturne dagger
#

fineman i worry about you

lone pond
#

I worry about alot of things

brisk flame
#

he right tho

nocturne dagger
#

you have alot of research to study on computer parts. but you have to start somewhere

lone pond
#

Exactly

#

I just started

peak pasture
#

@lone pond My sister, originally born sister, became a transsexual and was my brother. And is now my sister again. So my sister could be my brother as she was for a period of time.

lone pond
#

Got em

peak pasture
#

I wish this wasn't true but.

lone pond
#

so do you call your sister

#

he or she?

peak pasture
#

She. Always did, I knew she was just attention seeking the whole time.

lone pond
#

hmmm

peak pasture
#

If it was someone being legit that I could actually respect, Id have said he.

nocturne dagger
#

but just to help ya out a older gen gpu will never work in sli together. they can work separately

lone pond
#

if she was your brother for a brief period

#

can you ask to shower together?

#

both dudes

peak pasture
#

I'd be more worried about showering with a brother than a sister.

lone pond
#

When did we end up in Alabama?

brisk flame
lone pond
#

hmm why is it alabama?

#

Because Alabama is where you have to go of you wanna alaBAM- on second thought I'm not finsihing that joke

brisk flame
#

its an incest meme, just ignore it

lone pond
#

wow his mind is going in the gutters real quick

#

??? This conversation is about incest

#

Were already in the gutters

#

taking a shower together as siblings

#

is about .. incest?

#

horrible mindset you have there

#

god have mercy on you

#

Two naked siblings 2 feet apart is about as close to incest as you can get before god chimes in

#

wear a leaf over your crotch and its fine

#

What if no leaf can conceal the monster

#

๐ŸŽ

brisk flame
#

๐Ÿค”

lone pond
#

this isn't graphics cards

#

This is definitely about graphics cards

#

Its just a big metaphor for... Sonething

#

wait wait

#

what was the initial question

#

or statement

#

Can 2 different graphics card work together

#

DifferentSliAuto

summer peak
#

Not really.

#

There's hacky ways to make it work but it's not realistic and it works very very poorly to the point where you get worse performance.

lone pond
#

No I'm not re-asking the question

#

Well theres 2 ways to do it actually

meager lichen
#

does anyone play forntine

#

fortnite

lone pond
#

NO

summer peak
#

Remember when you could use a gpu for a physx card

#

those were the days ๐Ÿ˜

lone pond
#

some things on steam or something, idr exactly, but there was some way you could do it

#

and then differentsliauto is the other way

summer peak
#

it's not worth doing anyway -- even official SLI support is basically nonexistent these days

meager lichen
#

i got a gtx1660 is it a good graphics card??

summer peak
#

It's okay for 1080p gaming but there's better options

#

if you already have it, don't feel bad about it

#

it works well

meager lichen
#

whats better

#

??

summer peak
#

you can get the rx 590 for cheaper and it performs nearly identically

#

and the 1660 super is hardly any more expensive and performs a good bit faster

#

but like I said, just because there's better options doesn't make the 1660 a bad card

#

it works well

lone pond
#

Hey @summer peak

summer peak
#

hi

lone pond
#

I apologise for my rude behaviour the other day

summer peak
#

honestly I'm not sure I even remember what happened, so no problem

lone pond
#

Oh ok but thank you

#

wow good on you to apologize

#

but what happened?

summer peak
#

๐Ÿ‘

maiden musk
#

Do either of you know much about the new 5500XT?

lone pond
#

Uh not really

split hearth
#

Yes, dont buy

summer peak
#

It's about on par with the 1650 super so get whichever is cheaper

#

kaaboom plz

#

it's a good 1080p card for lighter gaming

maiden musk
#

Yeah

lone pond
#

@lone pond I was being irritating about price points

summer peak
#

it can struggle to run very new, high end titles at anything above medium settings/1080p

lone pond
#

I watched a video on it and itโ€™s not too bad

maiden musk
#

Well, I have an RX580 now, but Iโ€™m not sure how much of an improvement it is

summer peak
#

It wouldn't be a big jump.

#

If any.

#

It's around the same performance.

#

Your card might actually be a bit better.

tender mulch
#

RX580 level performance in some games. It's kinda meh

maiden musk
#

Thanks

summer peak
#

If you do want to upgrade, save up for an rx 5700 or xt imo

#

idk your financial situation though

#

but the 580 is still a solid card

maiden musk
#

Yeah, those would be good, but my CPU is probably a bottleneck

summer peak
#

what cpu?

maiden musk
#

I have a Ryzen 3 2200g

lone pond
#

@summer peak you use the xt right

summer peak
#

yeah that'll bottleneck a 5700 probably

#

f

#

I have a base 5700 that I flashed xt bios onto

#

the sapphire pulse rx 5700

lone pond
#

that works?

summer peak
#

yep

lone pond
#

ooh clever

summer peak
#

it doesn't perform quite as well as an xt, but it gets close

lone pond
#

Should I do that and save ยฃ50

summer peak
#

if you're comfortable with hacky things like that

#

it's not too hard but it is a risk

#

it could brick your gpu

split hearth
#

DaHeck that sounds pretty scary

summer peak
#

if something goes wrong IE power going out during it

#

I have a UPS so I wasn't too worried

#

there's guides online, I only did this a week or two back when somebody here told me about it

#

plenty of info if you look for it

#

I'd say I get about 10% better performance with the xt bios as opposed to the base 5700

#

but it's not something you should do if you don't feel comfortable doing it

lone pond
#

If I do, Iโ€™ll get my uncle to do it

summer peak
#

๐Ÿ‘

lone pond
#

inbefore your uncle bricks your gpu

summer peak
#

it's really not hard as long as you can follow instructions

#

the risk is only if something goes wrong externally

lone pond
#

Heโ€™s built quite a few pcs and knows This stuff

#

I built quite a few pcs and I brick things regularly

#

ah

summer peak
#

it happens sometimes

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fallen schooner
#

what happens

summer peak
#

bricking things

fallen schooner
#

๐Ÿ’ฉ happens.

lone pond
#

What happens if you brick it exactly

fallen schooner
#

๐Ÿ™‚

summer peak
#

bad mod ๐Ÿ‘€

fallen schooner
#

I know I know

summer peak
#

brick meaning it's dead

#

a brick

lone pond
#

if you brick it it dies

fallen schooner
#

I'll see myself out.

lone pond
#

Damn

split hearth
#

And it can never be fixed

fallen schooner
#

brick = exactly that.. it's a brick.

#

good for nothing

summer peak
#

scrap metal

#

:^)

lone pond
#

Good for knocking people out

#

don't be like me and brick things for fun

summer peak
#

I bricked one of my vitas when I tried to put custom firmware on it

#

had to get another one

lone pond
#

I bricked my ps3 doing the same thing

#

I also bricked my old 1080

summer peak
#

f

split hearth
#

If you brick something, you can still extract like .00001 grams of gold from it

lone pond
#

putting a cold can of coke on top of the CPUs

split hearth
#

Thats pretty good

lone pond
#

water drips

#

booom

summer peak
#

big F

lone pond
#

it killed my psu

#

and gpu

#

and motherboard

#

simultaneously

summer peak
#

my psu just gave up the other day

#

I don't think it fried anything though

#

it just sorta... stopped working

split hearth
lone pond
#

it's too old then

summer peak
#

I ordered a new one but I'm using a scary office computer OEM psu in the mean time

#

I took my gpu out obviously

lone pond
#

I hate it when PC case manufacturer puts small holes on top of the cases for better airflow

#

those cases suck

#

too prone for water damage

summer peak
#

just don't put things on them

#

smh

#

user error

split hearth
#

If that happened to me, I wouldnt drink coke ever again DaHeck

summer peak
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pepsi is better

lone pond
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my CPU survives everything tho

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prob the hardest thing to kill

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even if I try to kill it

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my psu which i got for free is a oem ibuypower one

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Wait quick question

summer peak
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I don't know anything about what ibuypower uses but I'd hope they use something better than what you'd get in like... a dell optiplex from 2008

lone pond
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Would it be better for me to air cool a 2700x

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Well would it be efficient

split hearth
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I wouldnt say it be better

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Water cooling is really if you like the look and want silence and air cooling is good but cheaper

summer peak
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Air cooling can be as good as water cooling

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

split hearth
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They more or less the same

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The pros and cons dont really have to do with performance

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Its more like do you want silence, do you want to save money....etc

sharp aurora
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Is an rx 580 8gb worth it or should i stick with a 4gb

lone pond
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Save money

summer peak
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it's not even like water cooling is silent

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it still has fans, and it has a pump

lone pond
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Iโ€™d prefer air cooling

summer peak
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air cooling is fine

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nothing wrong with it

split hearth
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Its not dead silence

lone pond
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Idc

split hearth
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Then go with air cooling

lone pond
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My house is loud so I wouldnโ€™t notice it

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And I could go with noctua

sharp aurora
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Is an rx 580 8gb worth it or should i stick with a 4gb

fallen schooner
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what are ya playing

split hearth
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Its not worth it

sharp aurora
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Just got rdr2

lone pond
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Why not

split hearth
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580 is 1080p card, games dont really use more than 4 gb vram at 1080p

summer peak
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@lone pond that's a good cooler

split hearth
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Like today somebody was testing the 4gb rx 5500, red dead was using like 3 gb vram

summer peak
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580 4gb is fine

sharp aurora
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Alright

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Thanks

lone pond
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Wait would a 2600x and a 5700 cause and bottlenecking

summer peak
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no

lone pond
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Okay good

summer peak
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you might as well save some money and get a 2600 over the X though, the X is just factory overclocked and binned

split hearth
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X is not worth it

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Save the money

summer peak
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you can just overclock it yourself (or have your uncle do it if you're not sure how since you said he knows this sorta stuff)

lone pond
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due to my location I have to be extra picky

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The 2600 in some cases is the same price on amazon

split hearth
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If they the same price then the X is okay

lone pond
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Ok

summer peak
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yep

ancient crystal
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re: earlier bricking i had a costly brick recently in the form of a nintendo switch

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bricking is serious business

unkempt crater
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Y'all have to brick your own stuff?

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Most of the stuff I get seems to come pre-bricked

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Saves me a lot of time

runic trail
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New question

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5500 XT 8GB or 1660S?

summer peak
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1660 super is better

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5500xt is about on par with the 1650 super or the base 1660

ancient crystal
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5700 XT is more the power you're looking for

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or a 5700 even

runic trail
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Honestly, I was expecting more for the 5500XT