#graphics-cards

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somber sandal
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the gpu is to good for the pc i gota upgrade everythin the gpu i bogt used from a mining rig so it was only 300

ancient crystal
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used from a mining rig, oof

somber sandal
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it works great

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nothin wrong with it

ancient crystal
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you're one of the lucky ones then

somber sandal
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realy? i have seen that mining gpus ar fine like ewerzwhere

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well gata go work

hard wren
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I have yet to see a mining card that issues other than in youtube videos

wicked hound
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@ancient crystal fun fact, mining doesn't degrade the GPU much. The die itself won't be degraded. Only potential degrades things may be some caps if hearings wasn't done well and fans

wet temple
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it's mostly just people tampering with BIOS and forgetting to reset it before selling that causes issues, i believe

lone pond
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Hello

hard wren
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👋🏻

lone pond
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Bios is super easy to flash

hard wren
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@lone pond I'm still scarred from the days of old when you could brick your gpu with a bios flash even though I know its not an issue anymore 🙂

lone pond
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My plan is dump eeprom, buy lot variety of eeproms on china ebay, and SPI flash a replacement if necessary.
Best case, works, worst, wall ornament

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Heyo, I'm build a rig for 2000, which GPU would y'all recommend?

sudden plaza
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1060, 1070?

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maybe something along those lines

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some of the 20 graphics cards on the cheaper end also works

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and 1660

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those are my suggestions

lone pond
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Hmm I might go with a Nvidia 2070 - 1080, not sure which one atm

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But I'll look into a 1070 thank you for the suggestion

hard wren
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1660 I second that suggestion

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but a 2070super would be awesome

lone pond
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hey guys, so i recently bought a used (there is a possibility it was used for mining) reddevil rx 580 8gb for 110, the heat is fine, tried to overclock it a bit through global wattman and msi afterburner, but still my old gtx 1050 feels better,

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but i dont think that mining would make such a difference for the rx 580 to make it worse than a gtx 1050

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games and problems and fps?

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mining generally doesn't degrade the performance, if anything it makes the fans worse

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yeah, thats what a friend told me

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but its not really been performing as well as in comparison videos

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you gotta understand

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in some comparison videos

dreamy dragonBOT
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Communist#2230 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
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they OC-ed

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yeah, but i oc ed mine aswell

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like how do you expect your card should perform

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and what is it performing?

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in fps

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Would you say that a rx 580 new for 120 on amazon is good

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idk

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i got a used one for 110 euros

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It’s on sale

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@communist the thing is that i think my old gtx 1050 was better even tho i didnt oc the old one

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@lone pond

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It most likely isn’t

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why do you think that?

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like what's the frame rate

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what are you experiencing

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its decent, but im a competitive fortnite player, in endgame i suffer some lag where its almost impossible to compete

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you experience lag?

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that shouldn't be possible

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idk

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what's your overall rigs

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cpu ram?

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i5 7400

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12gb

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600w psu

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120gb ssd

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1tb hdd

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I think it's mostly

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Ddr3?

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a driver problem

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ddr4 2400

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my drivers are up to date

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try to DDU your drivers

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I’d upgrade

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reinstall new ones

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ddu?

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google

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also try to unistall any windows updates

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i download my drivers through the software

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that's recent

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windows updates breaks alot of me games

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DDU is a software to unistall graphics drivers completely

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okay ill try it

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you are either having a drivers conflict

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or windows update is fking with you

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could i possibly have my old gpus drivers?

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sometimes old and new drivers just do stupid things together

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DDU to be safe

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ok ill try it, thanks for the answers

hard wren
lone pond
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will i have to reinstall my amd softwsre again?

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or no

hard wren
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yes

lone pond
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ok

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maybe its a huge difference also because i switched from nvidia to amd

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you keeps saying lag

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but I think you meant stutter

hard wren
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yes definitely ddu if you go nvidia to amd or vice versa

lone pond
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yeah

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thats the word

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DDU is your friend

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ok

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no

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your my friend

fallen schooner
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DUI is not.

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don't confuse them

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😄

hard wren
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DUIs are no ones friend

fallen schooner
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lol

lone pond
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DUIs are fun when you watch youtube videos

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what dui?

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and assume if you stay silent you are gonna be off the hook

fallen schooner
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😄

lone pond
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im a noob at pc building

fallen schooner
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it's an american term

lone pond
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im just a pro gamer

crisp wyvern
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guys, is it normal that my rtx 2070 does 80 fps in 1080? in csgo, rainbow six, BIO4 and other games

lone pond
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oh im from the eu lmao

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no its not normal

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1080p?

drowsy shell
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Best cpu to pair with 5700 xt?

crisp wyvern
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yes

lone pond
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ur settings are probably fked

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not normal

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im from eu

crisp wyvern
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uff

drowsy shell
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And best cpu to pair with 2070 super?

wicked hound
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CPU tho?

hard wren
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DUI = Driving Under the Influence (nothing to do with PC building iambox was making a funny 😉 )

crisp wyvern
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i5 9600k

dense flicker
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ooh, talking about DUI's?

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i got like 5 of those

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yolo

fallen schooner
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on your bike

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😄

dense flicker
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no

lone pond
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btw is running an amd cpu better with amd rather than running it with an intel?

dense flicker
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what do you think im crazy?

lone pond
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doesn't matter

dense flicker
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i was on my tricycle.

lone pond
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bro, this is the most help i have ever gotten

hard wren
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amd cpu has no bearing on the gpu amd or nvidia are fine

lone pond
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if its a stable 120fps, and im on 60hz and i feel it not being smooth, is that called stutter?

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??

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idk not being smooth

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can mean many things

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it feels like im on 40fps

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hard to understand

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but it says i have 120

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just DDU

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ok

hard wren
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ddu you must

lone pond
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Okay

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Anyone know any green 1660 ti for 250

hard wren
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I think 1660 supers are cheaper and have about the same performance as the 1660ti

lone pond
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Worth it ?

hard wren
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yes

dense charm
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the 1660 super is a very good card to get for the pricing

lone pond
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Ok

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Are there any good i7s for 120

hard wren
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120 dollars?

lone pond
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Pounds

dense charm
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i doubt it but ill check

lone pond
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Or even a i5

hard wren
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I mean an i3 8100 is $129.00

lone pond
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Tf

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Not even a older gen

hard wren
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well then you are buying second hand

gray vapor
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If going for a i3 better be the 9100F

lone pond
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May just go with r5 2600

hard wren
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thats a better choice on a budget

gray vapor
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or a 3400G

lone pond
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I don’t like 3400g

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Apparently it isn’t good

gray vapor
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performs like the 2600 but has a iGPU

dense charm
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yeah the r5 2600 is the closest to your budget

lone pond
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Is this a possibility

dense charm
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yeah for sure thats a good cpu

gray vapor
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Here is the performance of a 2400G (which is on par with the 1600) and a RX 570 https://youtu.be/SU6ydg-CpHY

lone pond
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My mates said it won’t go above 170 on sales

dense charm
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i say buy the 2700x asap

gray vapor
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If there is any AMD promo's i wouldn't buy anything for that on amazon

lone pond
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Why not

gray vapor
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Bought my 2600 off of amazon (worst mistake) was supposed to get a free game and they never sent it

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kept going through emails with them for a month until they said they would just give me back 30$ instead

lone pond
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Idrc bout games

gray vapor
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So you're building a system for what then

lone pond
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No no I mean idc if I didn’t get a game

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I’m looking for a case

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With 4 stock fans

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70 minimum

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£70*

gray vapor
lone pond
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I don’t really like that

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I have to buy off a amazon

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@gray vapor

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Due to my location

gray vapor
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You can try looking for it on amazon

lone pond
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Can’t find it

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if it says i have recommended drivers, and there is a new but optional driver, should i install it?

frozen pebble
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hi dudes

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what’s the best GPU for under $250 that has the most FPS for fortnite.

hard wren
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the 1660super someone just bought for $219 was a great deal

gray vapor
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1650S, 1660 and 1660S

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make sure from EVGA

hard wren
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it was an evga too

gray vapor
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Saying for him

lone pond
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I haven’t got it yet

hard wren
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oh yeah it was you lol

lone pond
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I’m saving

hard wren
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that is still a great deal

lone pond
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Yeh

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Is this all I need

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Going for a black and red theme

frozen pebble
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@gray vapor @hard wren is the 980Ti better for more fps?

gray vapor
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Just go for a 1660 Super

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@frozen pebble

lone pond
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Including my keyboard it is £718

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Is that Any good

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Also are aerocool reliable for psu

frozen pebble
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@gray vapor is it better for fps?

lone pond
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Yes it is

gray vapor
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fps and power

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you would need less of it over a 980 Ti

frozen pebble
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Like how much more fps compared to the 980Ti

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@gray vapor @lone pond

lone pond
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Uh about the same

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It’ll run fortnite fine

frozen pebble
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I just want 240 fps max

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Consistent

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all game

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no scrumming

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scrimming*

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And no stuttering lol

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anyone know how to fix stuttering

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in fortnite

lone pond
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240 FPS is overkill

frozen pebble
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wdym

gray vapor
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240 fps would mean almost nothing when someone on a console with 60 fps would most likely beat you

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remember Fortnite is cross play

lone pond
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My friend has a 2060s and a 9600k and he can just get 200fps

dreamy dragonBOT
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aux#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gray vapor
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language

frozen pebble
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shivery timbers

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lol

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sorry

lone pond
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What did he say lmao

ocean zinc
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anything in the 100 dollar range can run fortnite pretty well my dude

frozen pebble
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aight imma do some research

gray vapor
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If Fortnite was to do the same as other games like Apex or CS GO then their game wouldn't be focus on having like a 60 frame cap

brittle trellis
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1050 ti is a good low-mid range gpu atm

gray vapor
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sure you can go over 60 but really for Fortnite it is like no point in a way

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when you have people on a PS4, Switch and Xbox at 60 fps that could end up beating you everytime

dreamy dragonBOT
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leon carre#5414 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

gray vapor
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language

lone pond
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Sorry

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Fortnite is bad

gray vapor
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It is a decent game i wouldn't call it bad

brittle trellis
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"decent"

gray vapor
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just cause you're also not buying it

brittle trellis
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it was "decent" back when it was released

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its ass rn

lone pond
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It’s full of fat 40 year olds and raging 12 year olds with no life whatsoever

gray vapor
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but yet those fat 40 year olds are getting paid for yelling at those 12 year olds

lone pond
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Exactly

frozen pebble
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@brittle trellis i got 1050ti it’s shizzerz

brittle trellis
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so do i..

frozen pebble
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it’s bad

brittle trellis
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ive had one for over 3 years

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and its completely fine

frozen pebble
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what games do you play

brittle trellis
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currently rust and league

frozen pebble
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and what cpu do you have

brittle trellis
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i5 6400

gray vapor
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League can be played on a 20$ PC lol

frozen pebble
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Oh alright

brittle trellis
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okay? that wasnt the question though

frozen pebble
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Lmao

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Mod getting owned?

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Jkkk

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don’t ban me

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lol

brittle trellis
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bruh

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if he banned you for that thats genuinely pety

frozen pebble
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True true

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@brittle trellis you don’t play fortnite or anytbing?

brittle trellis
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not since s3

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genuinely hate the game

gray vapor
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Well just because you hate it doesn't make it a bad game

brittle trellis
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i didnt call it bad

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i said i hate it

gray vapor
frozen pebble
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Damnnnn

brittle trellis
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so what are you trying to get at

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you trying to start an argument so you can punish me?

swift valve
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I have a 1050ti in this laptop and it's fantastic. Plays everything I want. (I don't play newest triple As)

gray vapor
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1050 Ti can handle Doom with Vulkan

brittle trellis
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i mean, laptops are a different story

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but in the MWF beta i was running around 60fps with a couple stutters, but was mostly CPU bound

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using a 1050ti

swift valve
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I don't think I'd ever go with a 1050ti in a desktop PC. Lowest I would go is 1060 but 1070 is much better value (last I looked into it)

spice prawn
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@gray vapor it can handle a lot more than that. Perhaps try and not look down on hardware so much?

brittle trellis
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right now, theyre better value

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but when i got mine it was 2-3 years ago

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so it was one of the best budget gpu on the market

swift valve
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I talked my bro into a 1070 for his upgrade. Fit his budget and seemed like a really good value.

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i think he upgraded from a 960

gray vapor
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@spice prawn i owned a 1050 Ti back then i know what it can and can't handle

spice prawn
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by your standards for playing the games YOU want @gray vapor

swift valve
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the funny part is he's so busy with college he doesn't even use it.
but when he did he used it mostly to play WoW

spice prawn
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you are not every gamer on the planet @gray vapor

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as i said, perhaps try and not look down on hardware so much.

gray vapor
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@spice prawn why don't you read the whole conversation than just one part

swift valve
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WoW used to have low graphic requirements but not anymore. Blizzard upped the game hard on it and it can take a LOT of hardware to run that game with max settings, especially in 20 man raids.

spice prawn
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well done on making a bunch of assumptions about meaning @gray vapor, gotta applaud you for that.

gray vapor
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When i first started playing WoW i was using a low powered AGP card with a 1GHz Pentium III

hard wren
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I raid in 4k even though I shouldnt 🤫

swift valve
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oh god

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must have an insane PC

hard wren
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2080ti 8700k

long phoenix
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@spice prawn wreck him!

spice prawn
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@long phoenix do grow up.

fallen schooner
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really no need to instigate things.

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anyhow

long phoenix
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Oof

fallen schooner
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why does that ROG Matrix require so much dang power

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850w minimum 😐

hard wren
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why is it so hard to find??

fallen schooner
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cause it's the O P

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what I find funny

hard wren
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stuck with my FE 2080ti

fallen schooner
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it still comes with a CD installation disk

hard wren
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nice lol

fallen schooner
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lol

hard wren
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I felt like mine should have came with more

fallen schooner
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oh man sorry you're stuck with your 2080ti FE

hard wren
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1x adapter cord

fallen schooner
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man that must be terrible :\

hard wren
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LOL

fallen schooner
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I couldn't even imagine

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what that is like

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wish I could

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;D

hard wren
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its a hard life

fallen schooner
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I bet

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guess I'll go play with my rgb xmas tree

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and wish

wraith pasture
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must be nice to have a 2080Ti

fallen schooner
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IKR.

lean crystal
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lol

hard wren
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I really wanted a Titan RTX but my wife said NO

fallen schooner
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this dude over here, ashamed of his..

lean crystal
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1060 for the win Nice

long phoenix
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I wish I could win for once

lean crystal
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wow

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thats kinda depressinh

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depressing*

hard wren
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before long everyone will have 2080ti's I saw an Evga one for less than $1000 not too long ago

gray vapor
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Box did you overclock your RGB Xmas Tree

lean crystal
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THATS what i need for my pc

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a little rgb xmas tree

hard wren
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I ordered one after seeing it getting it Wednesday!!!

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Twinkly Pre-Lit 7.5'

lean crystal
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is it battery

hard wren
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and thats a full 7.5' of rgb mind you

lone pond
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Is this worth it

hard wren
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I believe it plugs in but @fallen schooner could confirm

lone pond
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Is aerocool reliable

lean crystal
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idk never heard of it

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id go with evga

hard wren
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honestly never heard of them either

gray vapor
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Id go with Seasonic

fallen schooner
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yeah it's a plug in tree

hard wren
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seasonic and evga are my go tos

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I personally have had bad experiences with thermaltake psu's but that doesnt seem to be everyones experience

lean crystal
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wait they make psus?

fallen schooner
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oh yeah

hard wren
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they do

fallen schooner
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very expensive ones

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with all the glam and flash

hard wren
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RGBs

fallen schooner
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in TT fashion

hard wren
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got a 1000watt EVGA supernova in this pc nice and quiet no issues

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I also have a antec 600w truepower that is over 20 years old always running and never had a problem runs one of my media machines to this day

lean crystal
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i also have a 650 watt evga psu and i cant hear it at all

swift valve
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"must be nice to have a 2080ti"
im just wishing I could ever afford current gen anything

lone pond
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I like keeping up with gens

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for no reasons

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at all

swift valve
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it's nice having new things

lean crystal
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communist are u communist?

long phoenix
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@lone pond comrade

inland cave
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what is the best GPU for 1080p 144FPS? My build is a Ryzen 7 2700x, 16 gigs 2x8 ddr4 3200 RAM, 650 PSU, 1TB HDD, and a B450M DS3H motherboard with a Mirco-atx case

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(my current GPU is a GT 610 which I only have so I can get a display)

fallen schooner
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budget?

lone pond
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will the RX 5700XT work with the asus rog strix X570-f motherboard?

median pagoda
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Yes, why wouldn’t it

lone pond
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im new to building pcs this is my first one

median pagoda
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Ah

inland cave
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my budget is as low as possibly preferably, so far I have my build at 365$, and I want to stay below $500

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I've already spent $125 on a 1080p 144hz monitor and $40 on a gaming chair

lone pond
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my budget is $2000

hard wren
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🔼 thats a 🚨 2080ti budget 🚨

maiden nymph
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Not really, it wouldn't make sense to pair a 2080 ti with anything less than a 9900k or an 3900x and that's already $1.6k combined new

fallen schooner
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2 diff convos going here

hard wren
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400 left over for ram a board and a cheap ssd golden

fallen schooner
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lol

granite juniper
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i mean depends on what he uses it for, if you do cpu heavy stuff it'd be good to get a 3950x+ more ram

maiden nymph
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You can definitely get away with lower tier CPUs but realistically? You're getting a 2080 ti, and gonna cheap out on CPU?

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Yeah so at least a 3900x

granite juniper
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yeah but games don't really use 12 cores rn, i'd just get a 3700x to save 200 or a 9700k for better performance

hard wren
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but I mean if your budget was $2000 for a gaming pc how could you not get a 2080ti?

inland cave
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by going with a 1080ti

hard wren
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well you could do that

wide grove
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i have a 1080ti

swift valve
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a big part of that budget should be going towards a proper display

lone pond
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What gpus can hit 144hz 1440p

inland cave
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^^^^^

lone pond
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On high-ultra settings

granite juniper
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anything on par with 2070/5700 xt or better, for ultra maybe 2070 super/2080 or ti if you have the cash

hard wren
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I assumed it was just a pc budget not monitor and peripherals too

inland cave
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always account for peripherals, I forgot to calculate that and now I'm adding about 250 to my budget for stuff

hard wren
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but it might be i dont know

wide grove
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Aorus 1080ti xtreme 11gb is good

granite juniper
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if ur buying it used its most likely overpriced tho

hard wren
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would be sad to have a 3970x a 2080ti and not enough money to afford a mouse and keyboard 😋

swift valve
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using a 2080ti on a 720p TN panel

hard wren
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doh!

swift valve
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you get like 400 fps but your panel is capped at 60

median pagoda
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But why

swift valve
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because you budgeted wrong and could only afford $50 towards your display

inland cave
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I'm currently sitting with a 720p 30fps monitor optimized for windows VISTA

split hearth
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1080p 144hz is not cheap, I have a gtx 1070 and it handles it pretty well

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you gonna need something in the relam of 1070, 1070 ti, 2060, 2060 super

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I think I read you have a budget of 500$ for everything, I dont think its possible

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maybe if you get a good deal somewhere

lone pond
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for $50

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or $20

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or free

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x.x

muted mica
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1070 or 2060?

wet temple
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2060 if you ask me, but it's a matter of preference

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And it depends on whether you care about ray-tracing or not

wicked hound
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1070 is closer to 1660S/1660Ti

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2060 being above

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tho also, 5700 is also above 2060 for cheaper

vestal wing
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@wicked hound do you have any idea when a possible 3000s is coming?

wet temple
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yes but you also take the risk of overheating with some variants of the 5700, some models thermal throttle to the point that they drastically reduce performance

vestal wing
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just dont get a blower fan variant

dense charm
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blower fan style sucks

wicked hound
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all dual/triple fans ones wont overheat unless in bad conditions. However I do agree that there arent many good cooler designs out there and lots of dual fan cards get too hot

wet temple
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yeah

wicked hound
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@vestal wing Sometime in the next 10 years I'd assume

inland cave
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Are used GPUs a good idea for cheap builds or no

vestal wing
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I mean if you don't overclock it shouldn't get that hot and also Hei no way really

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bro thats crazy

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thats only like a 10 year time gap

wicked hound
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if you get them at a good deal. Most of the time you save like $20 - $40 on a used GPU above a 580 unfotunately

inland cave
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ok, I just got a 570 as a temporary GPU while I save up for a better one

vestal wing
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oop

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570 is like a gt 1030 or like a 1050 right?

wicked hound
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Well I had to think, what if next series is 21xx? Then the 30xx series wouldnt come out in 1 - 2 years (what I expect the next Nvidia launch to come out in)

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570 is about 1060 3gb level

vestal wing
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I mean I guess maybe

inland cave
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what sucks is the rest of my build would work best with a 5700xt, but I gotta wait so that I can afford it

vestal wing
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same

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i got a 3700x 32Gb ram but a rx580 from my older rig

hard wren
#

on the plus side gpu prices have been going down

vestal wing
#

yeah

inland cave
#

will they ever be as cheap as they were before crypto mining was a thing again?

vestal wing
#

maybe

spice prawn
#

@inland cave not that likely. The market has shown it is willing to pay for the current prices. So there is next to no incentive for the sellers to lower their prices.

inland cave
#

Makes sense, but oof

spice prawn
#

well, you can thank all the people that think they need a 2080ti for 1080p gaming

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and yes, that is both sarcastic and irony.

inland cave
#

One of my friend's dads bought him a 2080ti pc and he doesn't even have a 4k 144hz monitor

lone pond
#

you think 2080 ti can run

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4k at 144 fps?

inland cave
#

no, I'm just saying he doesn't take advantage of either the high quality OR the high framerate

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The 2080ti is capable of 4k, and it is also capable of 144FPS

spice prawn
#

fairly regularely i have the debate of: No, it makes no sense to buy X card when you are flat out refusing to move from your 720p monitor (because it fits the visual look of the other pieces of gear in your man cave)

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and you might think that the above is a joke. I sincerely wish it was.

inland cave
#

*cries in gt 610*

summer peak
#

I still have a 1080p monitor and my gpu is overkill for it. 😎 👍

inland cave
#

how many Htz?

summer peak
#

60

inland cave
#

a

summer peak
#

I mostly play VR these days though

#

Need the power there.

inland cave
#

What is your GPU(s)?

summer peak
#

Rx 5700

inland cave
#

not too overkill, but definitely could hit higher framerates

lone pond
#

the extra frames that you can't see will help smoothen out the response time nonetheless

hard wren
#

a 2080ti can run some games at 4k in 144

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but where would you get a monitor that could do that

#

mine can do 120

granite juniper
wicked hound
#

4k on such a small screen makes no sense. Just go 1440 with MSAA and get more frames

granite juniper
#

that

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1440p 144hz is much easier to run and looks jut as sharp unless you're like 3 inches away

hard wren
#

my screen is 55" so it isnt so small

real raptor
#

I have a question. Which is better a intel ironlake integrated graphics or a intel hd 4400?

lone pond
#

Geforce2 ti

real raptor
#

I know they are both old but im trying to get a cheap laptop for overwatch

#

It would be in a lenovo thinkpad

hard wren
#

I would guess the hd 4400 but its a guess

summer peak
#

hd 4400 is a lot better yes

#

you can... kinda run overwatch on it, maybe? 720p and low settings

#

you might hit 30fps

maiden sun
#

Just get a cheap amd laptop with Vega 8

#

It’ll be 500x better.

glad ruin
#

I just got a 9700k. Can I get a recommendation for a budget gpu? I just want to game at 1080p with good frames.

wicked hound
#

9700k + budget GPU for what I assume is gaming? Why tho

hard wren
#

lol

nova wadi
#

bruh

wicked hound
#

Well, given that you got a recent OCable i7, I guess you'd have enough for a 5700XT

glad ruin
#

i got a good deal for black friday

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i was going to buy a 8700k

nova wadi
#

what was the deal

glad ruin
#

300

hard wren
#

hes confused at your choice of expensive cpus when you want a budget gpu and its purpose is gaming due to bottlenecking your cpu

nova wadi
#

what is your current gpu

dreamy dragonBOT
#
Thatguyuknow 🌶#8715 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

nova wadi
#

lol

glad ruin
#

i have no gpu right now just my very ba dlaptop

nova wadi
#

i don't know what to say...

hard wren
#

5700 is around like 329.99

#

or maybe a 1660 super for around 219.99

glad ruin
#

mmk

hard wren
#

there just isnt anything right at 300 that would be worth it

glad ruin
#

i could go up to 500.

hard wren
#

well now thats more like it

glad ruin
#

i just know i cant afford a 1080/2080

hard wren
#

yeah but now you are more at a 5700xt (less money same or better performance) or 2070super (rtx gsync)

#

if you could stretch to 615 you could go 2080

glad ruin
#

interesting

#

hopefully i can find a good deal around the holidays

summer peak
#

yeah the 5700xt is really where to go for the sweet spot there

#

you can get a really nice one for 450

#

look for the Powercolor Red Devil or the Sapphire Nitro+

glad ruin
#

i was just looking at the sapphire nitro actaully

#

im trying to keep my costs under 2000. im currently at 1750

wraith knot
#

is RTX 2060 a good card ?

ancient crystal
#

it's good but the super is better by a lot

#

8GB of RAM, and that RAM is GDDR6 instead of GDDR5

#

that makes a whole lot of difference in how it performs

wraith knot
#

RTX 2060 is GDDR6 right ?

ancient crystal
#

i think, yeah, i wasn't thinking clearly

#

but the Super is still faster

#

in terms of RAM and everything else

lone pond
#

Are dual Vega 64 any good for hardware acceleration on macs?

ancient crystal
#

if the cards are mac cards

#

standard PC models tend to not work on macs very easily, without a BIOS update

placid needle
#

Rtx 2060 super or 5700xt

hard wren
#

5700xt

lone pond
#

I saw a build with a ryzen 3900x mac with dual 64s and apparently they found a way for a really reliable amd mac

autumn harbor
#

@placid needle id rather prefer the 2060 due to dlss

frozen pebble
#

what’s pins does the 980Ti require?

keen acorn
#

how do you turn off the light strip on the RTX 2070 super?

atomic idol
#

someone now what a best budget gpu is?

#

like 40$ less?

autumn harbor
#

@frozen pebble 6-pin +8-pin

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@atomic idol what are you looking for?

atomic idol
#

!

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@autumn harbor gaming performance

summer peak
#

like probably a used 1030

autumn harbor
#

Okay, what's your budget?

atomic idol
#

40$ or less

#

maybe 45$

summer peak
#

you're really not gonna find anything for that that's worth using tbh

atomic idol
#

@summer peak how much is it

summer peak
#

some CPUs have better integrated graphics than what you'll get for 40-50

#

you can find a used 1030 for like 60

atomic idol
#

@summer peak really?

autumn harbor
#

@summer peak that's the hard truth

atomic idol
#

😭

summer peak
#

I'm sorry I can't bring you good news

autumn harbor
#

Rather go for a apu

summer peak
#

you can maybe find like

#

an hd 7870 for 40

#

but you'll need a decent power supply

atomic idol
#

@summer peak gpu?

#

or intergrated

summer peak
#

it's a gpu

#

should be about on par with a 1050 @atomic idol

#

I'm really trying my best to figure out what might work lol

atomic idol
#

i just find 1 for 20$

summer peak
#

but like I said you'll need a decent power supply

#

do you have a pc you're putting it in or something?

autumn harbor
#

@atomic idol i feel for you 😢

summer peak
#

I really think an hd7870 is about the best you can get for that sort of money

#

an r9 380 is a bit more

#

40-50

#

it's a good boost in performance compared to it but

atomic idol
#

i just play some light game

summer peak
#

like what?

atomic idol
#

its more of cpu demanding tho

autumn harbor
#

Hey but u can also opt for AMD Ryzen 5 2400G which has 3.9ghz of clock.... Its a nice entry level setup

summer peak
#

if he's building a new pc yeah

atomic idol
#

i do have a very entry level cpu

summer peak
#

what's your system now

atomic idol
#

its

split hearth
#

That R9 380 is still early in auction, might get bid up

atomic idol
#

i got it from my couzin

summer peak
#

has but it now for 55 @split hearth

atomic idol
#

he says its an amd a4 i think

summer peak
#

oh oof

#

good luck

atomic idol
#

it didnt go very well on games

#

XD

split hearth
#

55$ is more than 40 and plus the shipping

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:/

summer peak
#

that's why I recommend the hd7870

#

I did say the r9 380 is more expensive

atomic idol
#

where do u guys from?

summer peak
#

USA

split hearth
#

I got a gtx 650 for 30$ with free shipping

#

Thats probably the best you'll do

atomic idol
#

nice

#

🙂

summer peak
#

the hd 7870 is a lot more powerful

#

around the same price

split hearth
#

Look for something like that

atomic idol
#

im planning for a gt730 tho

summer peak
#

I wouldn't recommend it

atomic idol
#

i dont play heavy games

split hearth
#

Gtx 650 way better that a gt 730

summer peak
#

what do you play

atomic idol
#

@summer peak why tho

#

like point blank

frozen pebble
#

Hi guys

summer peak
#

the 730 is extremely low spec

spare relic
#

730 ain't great

frozen pebble
#

Who has 980Ti

split hearth
#

Gt 730 is bad, very bad

atomic idol
#

csgo

summer peak
#

you can pay less for an hd7870 and get better performance

#

seriously do yourself a favor and just get the hd 7870

atomic idol
#

pubg lite

frozen pebble
#

What pins are needed for 980Ti?

atomic idol
#

so hd 7870?

summer peak
#

this isn't the best site since it's a synthetic benchmark and isn't totally accurate but just to give you some idea

#

that's 4 times more powerful than a gt 730

summer peak
#

where are you from? NA?

atomic idol
#

no

summer peak
#

probably want to look locally then

atomic idol
#

shipping cost 4 times the price

#

😭

#

do someone have an unused gpu?

#

anything will do

split hearth
#

I dont really see HD 7870 for 40$, some are early in auction but you have to wait 6 days and maybe somebody doesnt bid up

summer peak
#

I actually have an HD 7870 but I can't really afford to ship it overseas

atomic idol
#

40$

#

to ship

#

ff

summer peak
#

it's more than that to ship internationally

split hearth
#

A gtx 650 you can get from 20$ to 30$, all day almost everywhere

atomic idol
#

gtx 650 performance is good?

#

like what could it run and at what fps?

summer peak
#

the 650 is better than the 730 but worse than the 7870

split hearth
#

Its better than a gt 730 thats for sure

atomic idol
#

so u guys think i really shouldnt use the gt73

#

730?

summer peak
#

don't get the 730 no

#

you'll regret it

atomic idol
#

ok

#

XD

#

thanks

spare relic
#

I have one

#

It's sad boy hours

atomic idol
#

what about nvidia's gt9000 series

summer peak
#

too old

#

not good

split hearth
#

I get 60 fps in fornite med settings with gtx 650

summer peak
#

650 is a better bet

atomic idol
#

@spare relic what one to be celar

#

clear*

summer peak
#

you could try a gtx 560 too

split hearth
#

One of those guys wants 20$ for shipping

atomic idol
#

hmmm

split hearth
#

Gtx 560 is too low

summer peak
#

the 560 should outperform the 650

atomic idol
#

@summer peak really?

summer peak
#

again I hate to use this site but it's hard to find comparisons between these gpus

atomic idol
#

isnt the number define its performance

summer peak
#

no

#

so like

#

okay

#

with nvidia

spare relic
#

Not sure, it's a gt730 with 2GB regular ddr3

summer peak
#

you have the first number which denotes generation

#

and then you have the second numbers (30, 50, 60, 70, 80

#

)

atomic idol
#

ok

summer peak
#

which define the tier in that generation

atomic idol
#

so like 930 vs 890 is different

#

i dont think its real

summer peak
#

it's not ideal but...

#

if that was real, which no they aren't

atomic idol
#

just pretend it to be real

summer peak
#

the 890 would definitely outperform the 930

atomic idol
#

oh

split hearth
atomic idol
#

so it doesnt simply "BIGGER NUMBER IS BETTER"?

summer peak
#

did you say what games you want to play?

split hearth
#

Look at that 9$ with 10$ shipping, nobody is gonna bid on that

atomic idol
#

point blank

#

its an asian game

#

some pubg lite

#

and csgo

split hearth
#

Actually forget about the gtx 650 and gtx 560

#

I forget they have mini hdmi port, not hdmi port

#

Its really annoying

atomic idol
#

but i think csgo is more cpu demanding games

#

i do play csgo a lot

keen acorn
#

does anyone know what software is used to control this preset LED theme? it’s an rtx 2070 super asus evo

#

google yields nothing but gameplay comparison videos...

split hearth
#

No, I game on a gtx 650....sorry :/ I wouldnt know

frozen pebble
#

What GPU you the most FPS for fortnite? 980Ti, 1060? 1660Ti? 1660? 1070?

keen acorn
#

alright thank u ill keep lookin

frozen pebble
#

@split hearth what CPU u got?

summer peak
#

@frozen pebble probably a 980ti, but it's a tie between that and the 1660ti

#

they're pretty close in performance

frozen pebble
#

@summer peak you play fortnite?

split hearth
#

I have a Xeon w3550

summer peak
#

no, I just know the general performance of those cards

split hearth
#

I bought a old workstation pc for 70$ and then got a 30$ gtx 650

frozen pebble
#

I mean my cpu and 980Ti on YouTube playing fortnite on max settings like epic settings with shadow gets 150 average FPS

#

I play all low like the competitive

#

So do you think imma get about 200 FPS avarage on low settings

#

If they getting 150fps epic max settings all epic

summer peak
#

what resolution?

frozen pebble
#

1920x1080

summer peak
#

I think you should get over 200

#

on a 980ti

frozen pebble
#

For real?

summer peak
#

but it might vary

#

fortnite is a weird game because the scenes vary so much

frozen pebble
#

I have 1050ti and getting 120-150fps

summer peak
#

1050ti is a lot weaker than a 980ti

split hearth
#

On low settings with a 980ti, 200 fps should be no problem

frozen pebble
#

With a low end i7?

summer peak
#

what i7 specifically

frozen pebble
#

And 16 go ram

#

I7-3770

#

16gb ram

summer peak
#

yeah I think you should still hit 200 or above in most scenes

#

but again fortnite varies a lot

frozen pebble
#

Alright

#

I’ll buy it

summer peak
#

because of building and some areas are just more dense like the towns

frozen pebble
#

Yeah

#

Are you sure there’s not another card that gets more FPS

#

All my pc is compatible

summer peak
#

well, how much are you looking to spend

frozen pebble
#

Like $250

#

Or $300

spare relic
#

What's the monitor's refresh rate

lone pond
#

1660 super

frozen pebble
#

@summer peak

lone pond
#

We said this

frozen pebble
#

@spare relic 144 overclocked at 160

spare relic
#

Ah ic ic

summer peak
#

I'd just get a 980ti or if you want a new card, 1660 super yeah

#

they're very close in performance

#

so I'd almost just recommend getting the new card instead of a used card

#

both should net you 200+ fps

#

in most scenes

#

with some drops

lone pond
#

Id say a 980 ti from Amazon warehouse

#

Its 213

summer peak
#

I just like the peace of mind of new cards

frozen pebble
#

I seem a 980Ti barely used

summer peak
#

but there's nothing wrong with used or anything

frozen pebble
#

No FPS difference in used cards?

lone pond
#

No

summer peak
#

shouldn't be

frozen pebble
#

Alright

#

Lemme buy it rn

lone pond
#

Maybe 5 or 10 occasionally

#

Wait

#

@aux

summer peak
#

rx 590 is another option

#

oh f

atomic idol
#

my empty wallet is shivering

lone pond
#

@frozen pebble there is a 1070 on Amazon for 285

atomic idol
#

😦

split hearth
#

How do you know the 980ti is barely used?

frozen pebble
#

@lone pond does that get more FPS

lone pond
#

Amazon listed it

summer peak
#

it should be the same

#

the 980ti and 1070

frozen pebble
#

Let me check yet

#

YouTube

#

Fortmite playing

summer peak
#

but also an rx 590 is a good option @frozen pebble

lone pond
#

Or a rx580

summer peak
atomic idol
#

guys what pc build do u recommend for 200$ ??

lone pond
#

What whole pc?

summer peak
#

@atomic idol one moment

ancient crystal
atomic idol
#

@lone pond if possible yes

frozen pebble
#

@summer peak check YouTube it’s Pretty trash

#

On FPS

atomic idol
#

if not i just need the important things

#

mobo cpu ram vga

ancient crystal
#

ideally you'd get video from your CPU at that price point

#

a dirt cheap AM4 board and one of the A series that are nice and cheap would be a good start

atomic idol
#

what do you mean i'd get video from my cpu at that price point

#

oh

ancient crystal
#

meaning you're not getting a GPU at a $200 price point

atomic idol
#

if possible i would considder a gpu

split hearth
#

On the bright side, Ryzen apu is better than gt 730

summer peak
#

@atomic idol do you have a case you can reuse

ancient crystal
#

if it's a $200 build you won't be getting a separate GPU

summer peak
#

I assume so?

atomic idol
#

this one

#

XD

#

@ancient crystal oh so intergrated

summer peak
#

if you have a case

#

best you can really do for that much

#

sorry

atomic idol
#

isn't it good enough if my cpu is mid level?

ancient crystal
#

wait you have a functioning PC and you want to do a potato build?

summer peak
#

@ancient crystal he has an amd a4

ancient crystal
#

oh god

#

yes we want a potato build

summer peak
#

the athlon 3000g is the best you can do

ancient crystal
#

athlon 3000g is a good option

atomic idol
#

prices are kind off high

#

let me see what i can do

#

just what i will ask

#

what cpu is that

summer peak
#

the athlon 3000g

atomic idol
#

i never heard of that

summer peak
#

comes with amd vega integrated graphics

#

it's new

split hearth
#

That pc part picker says he might need to update bios before he can use the cpu on that motherboard

ancient crystal
#

it is based on the zen architecture i believe

summer peak
#

that's not a big deal because he already has a pc @split hearth

#

the athlon 3000g is zen+

#

iirc

ancient crystal
#

ah that's good

#

nice quad core for $50

summer peak
#

with decent integrated graphics

atomic idol
#

wouldn't re using my mobo is enough?

summer peak
#

far better than the amd a4

#

no

#

it has a different socket tpye

atomic idol
#

XD

#

oh

summer peak
#

you wouldn't be able to use it

#

you could maybe reuse the case and power supply

#

so you could cut off 40 or whatever for the power supply

atomic idol
#

i think my psu is only 300 W tho

#

wait

summer peak
#

this is a very power efficient chip

#

I wouldn't worry about it

split hearth
#

But how would you update the bios, he would need a am4 cpu already

summer peak
#

@split hearth no? you flash bios with a USB

split hearth
#

Ab20 doesnt not support flash back through usb

#

You need a cpu to boot in the the bios to flash it

summer peak
#

he'd download the new bios before changing the motherboard and cpu

atomic idol
#

i dont know what u guys are talkin bout

#

XD

molten grotto
#

Heyy, sorry for bothering you guys, but do you think a 520W +80 Bronze PSU is enough for 5700 XT?

summer peak
#

@molten grotto what psu specifically

#

it should be, but

#

just to be safe

ancient crystal
#

depends on your other components too

split hearth
#

What mynamegee, you already have a am4 cpu?

molten grotto
#

@summer peak Seasonic M12II-520 EVO

summer peak
#

@split hearth oh dang I got what you mean

#

no you're right

#

I didn't think that through

#

it's late

#

@molten grotto and your cpu?

atomic idol
#

@split hearth amd a4 6300

molten grotto
#

@summer peak i5 6500

summer peak
#

that should be a good enough PSU

ancient crystal
#

you could probably even run it with like 4 mechanical hard disks

molten grotto
#

Thanks, good to know. Any suggestions on the manufacturer? I've heard that the Sapphire Pulse is good?

ancient crystal
#

CPU uses little power

summer peak
#

For the 5700xt?

molten grotto
#

Yup

summer peak
#

the pulse and red dragon are okay, but the two best ones are the nitro+ and the red devil

#

basically though, stick to powercolor or sapphire and you'll be fine

ancient crystal
#

powercolor is always my go-to for AMD GPUs

#

but i'd do gigabyte or sapphire

summer peak
#

Gigabyte is hit or miss

#

Powercolor and Sapphire have never steered me wrong

atomic idol
#

mobos are expensive

summer peak
#

and with the 5700xt both their low end and high end coolers are good

molten grotto
#

I heard Gigabyte having issues with really loud coil whine?

summer peak
#

Yeah, their 5700xt's are a bit of a miss

#

just stick with the pulse, red dragon, red devil, or nitro+

#

get the red devil or nitro+ if you want to OC, but get a better psu if you plan to OC it

split hearth
#

Honestly, if you only have 200$, you should go get a ps4

ancient crystal
#

i use an ITX case so i have to find a blower fan version of whatever card i get

summer peak
#

depends on your itx case tbh

ancient crystal
#

because the particular case's layout

summer peak
#

the node 202 does fine with dual axial coolers

molten grotto
#

@summer peak Not planning on OC, personally. I'm going with a fairly out of the box experience

ancient crystal
#

it's the fractal define nano S

summer peak
#

@molten grotto the pulse or red dragon would do you well then

ancient crystal
#

the PCIe slot is right next to the power supply

summer peak
#

they're only like 10-20 over msrp

ancient crystal
#

you gotta get the blower

molten grotto
#

@summer peak Pulse seems to be a good 30-60 euros cheaper than the other options, too.

summer peak
#

I have a sapphire pulse 5700 non xt

#

and it's great

#

definitely get it if it's cheap, it's a good pick

molten grotto
#

I'm planning on upgrading to 1440p after a lot of consideration. Very excited!

ancient crystal
#

Navi is really impressive, i'm glad AMD did something new

summer peak
#

I use mine for VR, but it's a 1440p beast

ancient crystal
#

i'm getting a 1440p ultrawide so buying a 5700 has to be a priority lol

summer peak
#

well, my headset runs at 2560x1440 anywaay

#

lol

molten grotto
#

Last time I tried VR, I got really bad motion sickness. Kinda put me off the whole thing. Alyx looks great though.

summer peak
#

What headset did you try?

ancient crystal
#

whatever the ultrawide is for 1080p i'm gonna have to use that to game on my 1650

molten grotto
#

One of the Oculus ones?

summer peak
#

I was going to say if it was google cardboard that made me sick too

Some people do get motion sickness with VR -- it's something you gotta adjust to

#

I had really bad dissociation for a week or two when starting VR

#

but no motion sickness with a 6dof headset

ancient crystal
#

if it's anything like those old steel talons arcade machines with VR from when i was a kid it's going to absolutely wreck me

summer peak
#

it effects everyones brains differently and you have to let your brain adapt to it

#

@ancient crystal it's not anything like that

#

way higher refresh rate helps a lot

ancient crystal
#

i am probably going to dissociate heavily if i give it a shot

summer peak
#

I did for the first week or two then my brain adjusted and now I'm fine

ancient crystal
#

yeah the refresh rate is like 15Hz on those old virtuality machines

summer peak
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yeah get an index and run it at 144hz

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it helps a lot

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my rift S does 80hz and it took me a bit to get used to

molten grotto
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@summer peak My brother's getting a VR set, apparently. I'll probably give it another try then. But definitely not spending 500 euros on something I might not get any use out of.

summer peak
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@molten grotto you will probably get sick trying it if you're prone to it

molten grotto
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It's really sad though, some of the VR games look really, really cool.

summer peak
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it's something you have to work through

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basically

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if you feel yourself starting to get sick

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stop

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wait 30 minutes

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try again

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eventually it goes away, or at least it has for everyone I know

molten grotto
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Thanks, I'll give that a try!

ancient crystal
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basically teaching your brain to operate in that kind of environment?

summer peak
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yep

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neuroplasticity!

molten grotto
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Sounds a bit scary, right? I mean it's not but it sounds so weird.

summer peak
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Yeah it's pretty crazy

ancient crystal
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i have a brain injury so i am expecting VR to be very weird for me

summer peak
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Couldn't say how that will effect it but dissociation is pretty normal

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I'd often experience things like feeling like my head was detached from my body, or my hands were floating away from where they actually are

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for the first week or two

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it did cure my stereoblindness though

molten grotto
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Stereoblindness?

ancient crystal
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oh that's great

summer peak
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stereo blindness aka no depth perception

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I couldn't tell how far away items were for sure before

ancient crystal
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i have poor depth perception but not a complete lack

summer peak
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One of my eyes just didn't work properly in that regard

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it's weaker and it just kind of gave up

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but VR fixed that

ancient crystal
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that's great

summer peak
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cool technology

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super hyped for half life alyx

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also boneworks in a few days

molten grotto
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Half-Life was such a big part of my childhood, I'm so jealous of anyone who gets to play Alyx

ancient crystal
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i never played half-life ;_;

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i had a complete potato of a computer when the games were around

molten grotto
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I remember playing Half-Life on my mom's work computer, haha

ancient crystal
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i was 17 when the first one came out, i totally couldn't afford to grab a voodoo card or whatever

molten grotto
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I played it years after it came out

ancient crystal
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my friend had a riva 128 32MB

molten grotto
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I must have been 12 or something

ancient crystal
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that was an amazing GPU at the time, though it was not technically even a GPU

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the first real GPU was the original geforce, it was a big forward leap in visual quality and raw power over what was around, it just devastated the competition

molten grotto
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I got my first gaming computer just a few years ago. Before that I played on my brothers PC or on a crappy laptop.

ancient crystal
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i've never built a proper gaming computer

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going to change it for this build i'm working on

summer peak
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I built my first computer at 10 years old to play half life 2

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