graphics-cards

[lone pond]

tells him to save money and try vanilla

[copper hull]

exactly what I told him

[lone pond]

and don't mess up with the res and framerate settings

[copper hull]

he's pretty set on upgrading though

[lone pond]

Should I get the Rx 5700xt or 2060 super for Rainbow 6 Siege on competitive graphics

[copper hull]

and apparently found a used 1070 deal for 210

[hard wren]

@lone pond 5700xt

[lone pond]

Yeah thats what I thought just needed an ice breaker

[copper hull]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-5700-XT-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super/4045vs4049

I think 5700 xt is like $325 rn

while 2060 s is ~420

I would go with 5700xt

[lone pond]

Yeah my friends were shitting on me for being an AMD guy this is the exact reason why I am

[copper hull]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WRYC3MT

nvm the 325 price

cheapest I can find is this one

[lone pond]

Im probably getting the powercolor

I found a local 1080 ti for $350

[copper hull]

no wayyy

[lone pond]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/sop/d/clearwater-zotac-gtx-1080ti-11gb/7033469677.html

[copper hull]

that's insane

[lone pond]

yes way

[hard wren]

test before you buy 😉

[wicked hound]

oh wow. A 1080Ti that is close to a proper used price

[lone pond]

buy if you are close to this guy

Yeah I see them retail for close to 750 rn

retail?

x.x

[copper hull]

the only used 1080 ti i can find in my market is for $760

lol

[lone pond]

craiglist has the most amazing deals if you take your time and look

[wicked hound]

Eh, I'd rather an EVGA Black 1080Ti so I can SLI, only realistic upgrade I can do as of now without laying down $1350 CAD + tax (totaling $1700)

[copper hull]

I just used facebook market now

so much faster.

[wicked hound]

plus Im in Canada, where craiglist doesnt seem to be used as much

[copper hull]

plus my local craigslist is full of meth adicts who think their old 760's are worth $100

[lone pond]

XFX 5700 XT Raw II Or Power Color Redevil 5700 with flashed bios

[hard wren]

price difference?

[wicked hound]

I believe Raw II has fixed temps

So no real downside to it other that price iirc when compared to a 5700

[lone pond]

I'm a weird dude I keep visitting craiglist everyday for cheap pc parts deals then proceed to build PCs that I don't need

like wtf am I doing

god helps me x.x

$390 for 5700 and $370 for the 5700xt

It sounds terrible for the powercolor

[copper hull]

get 5700 xt 😬

[lone pond]

5700 xt for me

[wicked hound]

5700 is like $350 tho on the high end

[lone pond]

it's da wae

The 5700xt has a lot better silicon quality but the 5700 temps will be insanely low

[copper hull]

5700 is also slower then the 5700 xt

by a bit

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-5700-XT-vs-AMD-RX-5700/4045vs4046

[lone pond]

nothing that OC can't solve

[copper hull]

not sure how accurate userbench mark is

[lone pond]

you can use it as reference point

[copper hull]

but it's good for quick comparisons

yea

[lone pond]

but accuracies are all over the place

[copper hull]

usually i'd just watch fps comparison vids or something if I were interested in buying a certain gpu

[hard wren]

who thinks I should just put a Titan RTX on my best buy credit card with 24 months no interest since they just started selling it? lol

[copper hull]

sounds like a bd idea ngl

no point in getting the absolute latest and greatest

[hard wren]

I was just suprised Best Buy added to their lineup

[lone pond]

best buy canceled every single order I placed on their website

even if I'm using their credit card

not shopping there again

[hard wren]

weird I just like the no interest credit card part

[lone pond]

it's just a capital one card

that you can't use anywhere but bestbuy

[wicked hound]

I mean do you need the Titan drivers?

If not then no real perf increase over a 2080Ti

[hard wren]

I know I'm only slightly seriously considering it lol

[copper hull]

could just get dual 2080 ti's instead

[hard wren]

Well too be fair my wife would get the 2080ti if I upgraded

[lone pond]

will she be happy?

[hard wren]

she already has a 2080 and hasnt complained to much about my card costing twice as much lol

[lone pond]

idk about your situation

but my wife complains about

me buying a $3k headphone

she actually beat me up one time

[hard wren]

well hell mine would complain about that too lol

[lone pond]

but just one time

credit or not spending too much on frivolous things that I don't need probably isn't gonna be good for finances

just a thought

[hard wren]

yeah I dont need it and I wouldnt even consider it if it wasnt for the no interest 24 months thing

thats only 104 a month

[spice prawn]

ask yourself this: are you going to be 104 dollars per month happier by making that purchase?

[hard wren]

I dont know it is a pretty little card

[lone pond]

$104 per month for me is gonna be lots of popeyes chicken sandwiches

[spice prawn]

because the question i asked, is the only one that really matters when it comes down to it.

[spice prawn]

the picture does not answer the question

[hard wren]

yeah probably not

[spice prawn]

then have you gotten the answer to your original question?

[hard wren]

yeah plus I'm impulsive enough that I would have just hit the buy button already if I was going to

[spice prawn]

adds @hard wren to his "i have a bridge to sell you" book

[hard wren]

As soon as I did my refrigerator would explode or something the very reason I keep that card paid completely down

[spice prawn]

mind, the following is not directed at you directly.

one of the reasons we have so high prices on a lot of parts is because people dont stop and think before they buy.

[hard wren]

I might buy that bridge if you catch me on the right day LOL

[spice prawn]

i have plenty of "oooh! shiny!" moments myself. :)

that imo does not excuse mindless spending thou :)

[hard wren]

No but if I was more thrifty I wouldnt have a 2080ti 😉

[spice prawn]

that is for you to comment on, not me :)

[lone pond]

I wish I win the lottery

[hard wren]

I think a lot of its about what your priorities are I dont go on vacations or have any other hobbies so I can spend a bunch of money on my pc

I'd definitely have a titan rtx if I won the lottery

[lone pond]

if I win the lottery getting a better pc would be the least of my immediate needs

[spice prawn]

i personally dont have a need for one, i dont see how having a bunch of money would change it/that

[lone pond]

I prob would buy a bunch of lands

build a big ass house

buy bunch of supercars

PC comes last or will never come at all

because I have better things to do now

✊

[hard wren]

I'd pay off my mortgage buy a titan rtx maybe do some traveling but I would still live where I do money isnt everything

[lone pond]

I would spend alot of money on foods tho

that's my one and only true passion

the world has too many tasty things to try

[hard wren]

I'm more of a eat for sustenance type of person if they made a pill with all my caloric needs I could just take 3 times a day I would LOL

[lone pond]

😩

[median pagoda]

But taste is good

[wet temple]

maybe don't put this in the gpu channel? idk but anyway thank you father

[lethal panther]

i just realized i did that lmao i went to general chat and didnt see it

[wet temple]

lol

[lone pond]

titan rtx?

I love it when people rag on turing

[maiden sun]

Uhh

Would a 400w psu handle an rx 580 8gb and an r5 2600?

[copper hull]

https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

short answer : no

but if you do fancy things like under volting maybe, but that's a lot of effort, and lots of risk for little to no reason

[maiden sun]

crap

Well guess I’m gonna buy some 5 year old psu that’s 600 w for like 20$ :)))

[copper hull]

don't do that

[maiden sun]

I have a budget of 40$ for my psu :/ idk how to not buy crap

[maiden sun]

I can’t get anything unless it’s on amazon, my parents are scared of every website that isn’t amazon.

[wet temple]

oof

[copper hull]

sometimes you just gotta argue with your parents then.

nothing wrong with that.

don't let your parents think they're always right.

[maiden sun]

I’ve already tried, their technologically illiterate and don’t understand that not every website is a scam.

[copper hull]

ask for one of those loadable credit cards

load how ever much money you need

actually

you can get one of those your self

if you have your own money

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=power+supply&qid=1575779135&sr=8-6

if you can push the money limit, this would work fine.

[pseudo spruce]

Better off saving a little more if possible and getting a Corsair CX 500 or a Seasonic M12II

Much more reliable

[wicked hound]

@maiden sun @copper hull PSU calculators are a lie and waste of time. The 580 consumes about 230w, 2600 is 85w, rest of system is 70w. That's 385w total

[copper hull]

yea that's exactly what the calculator said.

that's cutting it pretty close

[maiden sun]

So would it be reasonably to use a 400?

I’m confused.

[wicked hound]

Also W1 white is a horrible PSU

@pseudo spruce Seasonic M12II is certainly not reliable and lacks many modern proections in PSUs. CX is significantly better

As another note for the EVGA BR that was posted above, BR isnt good either

[pseudo spruce]

It's definitely reliable. I spent s month researching psu's and it has really great reviews. I've used one for a year now without issues

[wicked hound]

@maiden sun You should be fine. If not then undervolt the GPU a bit

A unreliable PSU lacks protections. The SII simply put, lacks protections

It's old

Also is group regulated iirc

which causes instability at high loads

[pseudo spruce]

Yeah I know it's old tech and doesn't have protections for everything. I use it in an older build

[sharp aurora]

would you guys reccommend an rx 480 or an rx 580

[wicked hound]

580 is just an OCed 480

So whatever is cheaper

[pseudo spruce]

I bought mine on sale for $45 so I had to try

[wicked hound]

MII might have been a good recommendation back then. But not anymore. Only could be considered good at like $25 cuz of competition

[pseudo spruce]

@sharp aurora A 570 at the very least and make sure whatever you get, It has 8Gb

[wicked hound]

why 8gb on a 570?

It doesnt even have enough perf for games to run at ultra settings with a good framerate.

meaning it wont utilize >4gb with it's rasterization perf

[sharp aurora]

im just looking for a card that is quite a bit better than my rx 550

[wicked hound]

I mean a 570 is like 2x 560, so should be a good perf boost

[sharp aurora]

but is a 580 worth the extra 20$

[wicked hound]

You can OC a 570 to 580 levels

[pseudo spruce]

I have an Asus Expedition RX 570 8Gb and it definitely out performs a 4Gb rx 570 I previously had

in One build

[lone pond]

but you can oc a 580 too

[pseudo spruce]

Yes

[wicked hound]

I also assume you're looking at used given you were considering 4xx gens

[lone pond]

Definitely look at reviews firs tthough - some cards are farr more friendly to that

[wicked hound]

if not then a 570 and 580 shouldnt be $20 difference

[pseudo spruce]

I bought brand new

[lone pond]

4xx is also notorious for sucking 100W from the pcie slot worst case, absolutely do not put that in an elcheapo $15 potato mobo

[wicked hound]

also be careful that the 580 isnt a "580", aka a fake 580 that is a 570

[pseudo spruce]

Might be better off going for the 590 as it's not much more

[wicked hound]

AMD did some sneaky rebranding so now some cards are weird

[pseudo spruce]

Fake 580?

I know the 590 is basically a juiced up 580 but never heard of 580 being a 570

[wicked hound]

kinda like Nvidia and the GT 1030 thing, where they had one with GDDR4/5 (dont remember) and one with system DDR4

[pseudo spruce]

Oh ok

I recently bought a Sapphire Pulse RX 590 and I really like it

For another build

[wicked hound]

590 is okay. Tho IMO I'd go with 1660 or 1660S

[pseudo spruce]

Yeah sometime next year I'm going to upgrade to RX 5700 XT. I Want to play at 1440p

[plush escarp]

what should my psu's watts for a rtx 2080ti<

[pseudo spruce]

Is ray tracing really worth the extra money? I mean for a card that supports it

[wicked hound]

@plush escarp depends on CPU as well, but with a 3700x or smth just a 650w PSU

[plush escarp]

i9 9900k

[wicked hound]

RT isnt really worth it. Too weak as of now. Wait a few gens and then it'll be fine

@plush escarp How heavy of an OC?

[plush escarp]

?

[pseudo spruce]

Okay good to know

[wicked hound]

9900k, at what clockspeed

[plush escarp]

ah

eum

[lone pond]

hmm?

oh, depends on your intentions with both the 9900k very much on which 2080 ti you buy, and your OC plans wich such

But I've seen 650W at the wall often

[plush escarp]

but an i9 9900k is normally 3,7 ghz

[brisk flame]

3.6, and thats base clock

[lone pond]

It's 5.0 single core, tbh I don't even know what the all core p0 state is

[brisk flame]

all core boost is like 4.7

[wicked hound]

If you OC it, power consumption goes through the roof

[lone pond]

(default)

[brisk flame]

4 core boost is 4.8

2 core is 4.9

single core is 5

[plush escarp]

ok so if i have rtx 2080 ti , i9 9900k oc at 5.0 ghxz, 32 gb ram, how many watts do i neeed

[lone pond]

I lock 5.0 1.3 vcore 30mv vdroop llc, 4300c17 for dailyish

For important/work stuff either JDEC/XMP and 45 all core 42 ring, 1.25

[wicked hound]

Well 2080Ti is 375w, 9900k is generally 300w with high OC, rest of system is 70w

[plush escarp]

oh ok tks very much

[lone pond]

Put it this way, if you're spending 1200 on gpu, 500 cpu , hopefully near 300 mobo, $200 in ssd's, I think it's smart to spend at least 300 on psu

[brisk flame]

300 on a psu?

[wicked hound]

not really

[lone pond]

Get an AX1000 or a seasonic ssr1000TR

[wicked hound]

Bitfenix Whisper M

[brisk flame]

150 minimum

[lone pond]

hei why is the 2080 ti 373w?

[wicked hound]

$130 for 750w

[pseudo spruce]

I want to get one of those watt meters to see how much my system is actually using

[plush escarp]

i ll buy Asus rog thor 850 w is this good

[lone pond]

Would have to read reviews. I can't safely recommend most 750s

[wicked hound]

Looked at a torture test, spiked to ~360w for <50ms which I always consider as max. Also just look at PCIe plugs fpr a rough estimate. 2x8pin + PCIe port. 2x150w + 75w

[plush escarp]

[pseudo spruce]

That price is insane

[lone pond]

@ Hei do yo uknow which 2080 ti's have which power limits?

[wicked hound]

Also, Bitfenix Whsiper M is better then the ROG Thor

[plush escarp]

ok

[wicked hound]

Whisper M is a really great PSU

[lone pond]

Better on Lukesaven--- 's psu tier list?

[wicked hound]

lol, his name has to be censored?

[lone pond]

(which I very much like)

[pseudo spruce]

Are the Rosewill Capstones any good?

[lone pond]

No he's dutch or something and I'd rather not botch it further

[wicked hound]

It's tier A

So it's 2nd best tier

[lone pond]

Ok, but have you read into what makes it a tier a

[wicked hound]

lots of protections + dual rail

[plush escarp]

[lone pond]

And how Tier A might be a Tier A for say, a $1500 level build? but my earlier (if the rest of the pc is 3 grand, why skimp $150 on the psu that lasts 12 years?)

[wicked hound]

It's not needing 1600w tho

[lone pond]

Many but not all 2080 ti vrm designs are more or less tempermental with dual /multi rail designs

[plush escarp]

truw

[wicked hound]

dont see why it needs to be A+ tier

[lone pond]

Some* designs

[brisk flame]

the nice thing about an overkill psu is that you can safely reuse it in your next 3 builds

as long as standards dont change

[pseudo spruce]

Lol

True

[brisk flame]

a solid 80+ titanium and your zoomin

[lone pond]

That helps reliability yes - but other factors like quality components, adequate cooling etc

[wicked hound]

whether it's A or A+ life expectancy is probably going to be the same

[brisk flame]

they use them in mission critical network hardware for a reason

[wicked hound]

and Luke has recommended bitfenix formula gold and whisper m (modular formula) many, many times on the LTT server

[lone pond]

The takeaway here is that that tier list's target audience is for someone who wants to use a tier list

And how many times to a 9900k/2080 ti build at big budget? though

If bitfenix has an appropriately powerful unit, my apologies, I didn't know they made a higher end SKU

[wicked hound]

Well I certainly havent heard much about a high end build recommendation

But I also havent really seen him recommend much else than that PSU, and Im fairly sure I seen him recommend 750w at some points

[brisk flame]

should prolly move this to cases and psu chat tho

[lone pond]

Nothing wrong with that, 90% of the people I give advice to - and very much enjoy it - aren't anywhere near that market

He likes the ax1600i, as do I, it's a marvel on the inside

[wicked hound]

Im sure he does

but then, barely anyone needs 1600w

[lone pond]

I actually have recommended the bitfenix in this discord many times

same 750, based on luke, aris's, among other recommdations

Anywayyyy, unless I'm mislead, the original user request was for 9900k/2080ti - if not ... oops

[wicked hound]

it was

Tho then again looking at it, 750w is cutting it close pretty sure for a 2080Ti and decently OCed 9900k

[brisk flame]

750 - whatever the efficiency loss is isnt enough

[wicked hound]

It's just barely enough

for a complete torture test on everything that is. Even talking about powering USBs with high power devices and such

not really recommended I guess, probs should've done better math there

[lone pond]

That's the core of my concern, PSU's last a long time, it's worth consiering both how they fail , as well as how likely they are to fail. That is will they blow up everything else? Because some will likely contain failure to themselves.

2nd - if you're spending 1200+ on a GPU alone... heck even the $500 PSU's brandnew aren't a bad pick

Not the first recommendation, but you get the idea

[wicked hound]

Eh, I feel like the high end PSUs are more for 1000w+ power consumptions

[lone pond]

And 3rd/finally - these things last a long time, espeically titanium units that run cool

[ancient crystal]

I always go with the rule of having 100-200 more watts than I need, for my system that is an RM750

[lone pond]

Or silent and cool passive or low fan operation

A 1600 T2 can run fanless or near 0 noise fan if you slip a switch to cool it anyway up to 600 W

[wicked hound]

just get that watercooled PSU for a "no noise" operation

[pseudo spruce]

@ancient crystal Very good rule. Me too

[ancient crystal]

i'd dig a fanless/silent power supply quite a lot

between my case's noise dampening and nothing but an HD and a Hyper T2 making noise in the case, it'd be perfect

[pseudo spruce]

I have a SeaSonic Focus GX 650 that has a switch to go fanless

[brisk flame]

also, its important to remember that psus run best just under the rated capacity after conversion losses are factored in

[wicked hound]

I also would, but you do need to have basically a full custom water cooling loop with a decent amount of rad area to even begin hearing the fan of a decent PSU

[brisk flame]

get the water cooled psu

[wicked hound]

wasnt it also RGB?

[ancient crystal]

that sounds dangerous

[brisk flame]

yeah lol

[ancient crystal]

water cooling a PSU

[brisk flame]

it also isnt necessary

[ancient crystal]

could short out your entire system

[wicked hound]

Also was still louder than a high end PSU iirc

[ancient crystal]

i've seen some of those seasonic units that have no fan in the power supply

i think... thermaltake has them too? and probably some other people

[dense flicker]

what does thermaltake have?

[brisk flame]

fanless psus

ig

[dense flicker]

never heard of those

ive hard of psus with modes that keep the fan off during low power consumption

but never fanless

[solar fossil]

SeaSonic Platinum 400 Fanless PSU is a fully modular PSU and comes with two 8-pin (6+2)-pin PCIe connectors to supply power for graphics card.

That was a copy paste

But I guess it is a thing

[lone pond]

At gold + , and especially titanium, you can pretty much ignore any concern for "oh , it'll be less effiecient at low rating unless you put a 2000 watt leadex 8 pack to power a raspbery pi

[brisk flame]

yeah, i guess

[solar fossil]

All the fanless Psu I can find are platinum

[wicked hound]

I almost always just ignore efficiency unless it's like a 1600w+ PSU (yes, there is the Superflow 2100w PSU)

[brisk flame]

i mean, that is the definition of those certifications

[pseudo spruce]

My Focus GX can be used either way by pushing a button on it

Fan doesn't spin up unless under decent load. even on fan mode

[lone pond]

Im gonna buy me a 1 million volt psu

[pseudo spruce]

1.21 Jiggawatts!!!

[lone pond]

https://i.imgur.com/1XRyJRG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G9VdgJR.png

2100 must be new, haven't heard of it, but 2400W HP server psu's are common, the Leadex 8 pack is 2000W. Running a psu on 240v improves efficiency, lowers temps.

[wicked hound]

Idk, I dont look much into the super high wattage PSUs. Ive known the superflow one for a year or so tho

I mean I only heard of Superflow cuz of their 2100w PSU

[ancient crystal]

that's if you're running an EATX board with a couple of the highest level threadrippers and triple/quad SLI or crossfire

hell, if you're that rich you could afford some xeons or epycs, but that's beside the point

[maiden sun]

My budget for my psu for my new pc is 40$ so this looks reasonable, I don’t know if I can overclock my 580 with it tho

[ancient crystal]

lol

[maiden sun]

[cerulean rover]

I think thats too little, you can only run integrated graphics with that

[ancient crystal]

the ryzens with the vega 8 or 11 might be pushing it

[cerulean rover]

Yea, only UHD 520 or 620 will run

[maiden sun]

I can’t even power on my ram with this

The rgb won’t turn on

[cerulean rover]

That can't be right... 3000w psu for 60$..?

[wicked hound]

I mean it is refurbished

[brisk flame]

its also for an EOL enterprise grade network switch

lol

[maiden sun]

One of these farms might let me run csgo

[cerulean rover]

Mhm

[lone pond]

I have a psu that is 12 watts

[maiden sun]

wut

[lone pond]

Literally

[maiden sun]

You’re 12 watts

You’re mom is 12 watts

[lone pond]

Your 0 watts

[maiden sun]

TAKE IT BACK

[lone pond]

Your sister is 69 wattz

[brisk flame]

yall throwin some shade

[cerulean rover]

So anyways

Is there any noticable benefits for triple fan graphics cards?

[wicked hound]

there can be. But it isnt really the fans that count

more of the cooler design

[lone pond]

Better cooling

[cerulean rover]

I'm just thinking about the rtx2070 in my build rn

[wicked hound]

like for the 5700XT, comparing the sapphire pulse (2 fan) to the gigabyte OC (3 fan). The pulse is better

despite the lower fan count

I would also recommend the 5700XT over the 2070 due to better perf and same cost

[cerulean rover]

I feel like tripple fan is worse as it cools each end of the card, and the middle, instead of both more centered on middle

[lone pond]

Rtx 2070 is overpriced

Get the super

[wicked hound]

nah

[cerulean rover]

I bought the 2070 before 5700xt came out

[wicked hound]

2070 and 2060S is same price

[cerulean rover]

I built it a year ago

[wicked hound]

2070 has slightly better perf over the 2060S

but still, 5700XT

[cerulean rover]

Can't deny its a good contender

[wicked hound]

Basically as to what happened. 2070 was EOL but AIBs wanted to bring it back cuz 2060S wasnt getting much sales. So now that it isnt EOL and the 2060S exists the prices are the same

[lone pond]

I think 2060 is super underrated

[cerulean rover]

Taking a quick look at userbenchmarks looks like 2070 is on par with 5700xt
Tho idk how much I can trust that

[lone pond]

Driver updates buff the 5700xt

[cerulean rover]

I heard bad things about them rebalancing the scores to make AMD look worse but I dont quite remember

[lone pond]

As i was buying my gaming pc someone said it is a waste of money and told me to buy an xbox one

[wicked hound]

Dont think that happened. Mostly just that launch drivers were "meh" and AMD updated them

[lone pond]

They say pc is for office use not gaming

[wicked hound]

Tell them to look at steam

or Epic Games

[cerulean rover]

There are many in this world that are ignorant

[lone pond]

General population has an iq lower than the average iq

[cerulean rover]

Therefore, it is our duty to enlighten them to the PC masterrace

[lone pond]

I sold my ps4 to aid in buying my graphics card.. im not dissapointed

[cerulean rover]

PCs are just so multi purpose

[lone pond]

Yeah

[cerulean rover]

I hope AMD progress their graphics card in the same way as Ryzen

[lone pond]

Yeah...

The satan company versus shrekvidia

[ancient crystal]

AMD is getting it together

They're back like where they were in the Athlon XP days, when price/performance was king

[lone pond]

Athlon or fx

Series

Which do u prefer

[ancient crystal]

what

do you mean the old FX and AMD64 chips

[lone pond]

Amd fx the old kind

[ancient crystal]

well for one, i only had an athlon XP during that time period because i was poor and computer stuff was a lot more expensive back then than it is now

so i can't really compare

so i'll sit this one out

[lone pond]

I have a pentium 5 and imo thats a good cpu for gaming

[ancient crystal]

you're not making any sense so i as i said i'll sit this one out

[lone pond]

Yeah i guess im trolling

My brain doesnt know how to work

[novel shoal]

you mean ryzen 5?

[livid granite]

i have a rtx 2060 super

is that good

i think my toaster is better

[ancient crystal]

I think your GPU is pretty decent

[dense flicker]

lol u kidding me?

2060s is a fantastic gpu

extremely powerful

[ancient crystal]

you're not gonna run stuff at 1440p with ray tracing on, but you will with it off, and some careful settings adjustments (like maybe reducing view distance) and you'll get tons of frames

so yeah it's a powerful GPU

[dense flicker]

lol yeah

2060 can barely do rtx

but its great for everything

alright, sleep time, goodnight

[ancient crystal]

yeah the RTX engine being in the 2060 is a bit of a silly thing

but they wanted to separate the more powerful GPU by placing it in the hardware ray tracing category

GDDR6 does wonders for the super though

memory bandwidth is extremely important on any GPU and will make an enormous difference

[pliant folio]

Can a GTX 760 ti do over 144hz? (i know its bad but im not a mad gamer, ill probably get better later)

[wicked hound]

probably more like 1080@60 on low

[pliant folio]

ok

[maiden nymph]

I have the EVGA 2060 XC and it's not really amazing at 1440P yet overkill for 1080p, but it's alright since I only paid $210 i guess

There's no "RTX engine" on it though, it may have some cores for it but nvidia unlocked RTX for Pascal cards so in the end, you don't miss out on much because really, what games are you really going to be using RTX on? just go to the next resolution (1440p->2160p->3840p/4096p)

[dark flame]

😄

[stray mango]

currently using 2080 for 1080p gaming ... my monitor broke need new

[maiden nymph]

I got lucky and picked up a BNIB Samsung 144hz 1440p HDR 32" Curved screen for $225 (steal lol) so I wouldn't recommend any less if you're running a 2080

[spark kindle]

yeah that’s hella overpowered 😂 there are a good number of cheaper 144hz 1440p panels tho

[maiden nymph]

maybe not exactly 32" (you can go ultra wide or just 27") but high resolution OR high refresh OR both if you've got the budget

[spark kindle]

You probably won’t see a curved hdr 32” one, but you can definitely get a normal 144hz 1ms 1440p 27” for 200-300$

[maiden nymph]

correct ^

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-S2719DGF/dp/B00N2L5CXO/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=s2719DGF&qid=1575306717&sr=8-1

this would go great with your 2080

[spark kindle]

That’s the freesync version btw there’s a native gsync version

tho i’m not sure if that monitor is compatible for gsync on the freesync version

[maiden nymph]

at 155hz it hardly matters especially if he's got anything close to a 9700k because it's just not a good value to pay the gysnc tax

[spark kindle]

debatable, but especially untrue when the gsync version is the same exact price

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-27-led-qhd-g-sync-monitor-black/5293502.p?skuId=5293502

also keep in mind that adaptive sync is only unnecessary if the frame rate is ABOVE the refresh rate. With a 2080 there are some games (especially modded ones) that you aren’t gonna be running at 1440p with 155hz+. Gsync is DEFINITELY useful in those scenarios

[nocturne bison]

@maiden nymph what do you mean the 2060 doesn’t have an rtx engine? It has hardware raytracing. And how would you go to the next res if you have a small res monitor?

[maiden nymph]

it isn't hardware locked to "only can use RTX if gpu has it in the name." And exactly, get a better monitor ESPECIALLY if you're only at 1080p because you're not being smart about your purchases if you're looking at gaming w/RTX at that resolution

I think you should only really look into RTX seriously if you're at least on 1440p and even then, it should be that way if you value graphic fidelity > high refresh rates

[wind cosmos]

Lmao

[spark kindle]

in all fairness if you’re using RTX in most games you’d want to be on 1080p, performance would be a real hard time otherwise

especially with only a 2060

there are some exceptions to that where the RTX capabilities in some games are extremely well optimized

[nocturne bison]

I mean, i have a 1080p monitor and a highly OCd msi ventus 2060, it can run SOTTR with rtx enabled on like 90 fps (max settings)

[spark kindle]

exactly, you can get by without any problems on 1080p, 1440p? you’d struggle around 60fps or so

[maiden nymph]

I would greatly prefer RTX off @ 1440p with same fps

[nocturne bison]

Ok, buy me a 450$ 2K monitor then

[spark kindle]

well that would be great if we were talking about non-rtx gameplay, but right now we’re talking about rtx gameplay

[maiden nymph]

I didn't get the 2060 because i was impressed by RTX, i got it because it makes more sense than a 1660ti for 1440p

[wind cosmos]

Orrrrrr 5700 cat

Xt

Best price per frame for 1440p

[maiden nymph]

RTX gameplay isn't for the faint of heart is all I'm saying. Certainly does NOT fit in >95% of people's budget anyways

[nocturne bison]

I got it because it’s basically the ultimate gpu for 1080p, it would struggle at 1440

Thats why your one is “not that great”, it just isn’t generally good at 1440

[maiden nymph]

Mostly anything above or on par with a 1080 ($300 resale) can max out 1080p @ 144hz so that's not exactly correct

you're right, it's not the best choice for 1440p I will agree

[spark kindle]

a 2060 isnt above or on par with a 1080

[maiden nymph]

I tried a 1080 Ti for 1080p 240Hz and was not impressed

worse than a 1080

[nocturne bison]

How much is the 1660ti retail? It’s around 290$ if I’m remembering correctly

Uh no

Wtf

1080ti is still grossly powerful

[spark kindle]

A 2060 SUPER is on par with a 1080, but a 2060 is not.

[maiden nymph]

^

[spark kindle]

a 1080ti will never be worse than a 1080

that’s literally not possible

[nocturne bison]

True

[spark kindle]

like what

[maiden nymph]

?

[nocturne bison]

Theyre like 300$ apart

[spark kindle]

you said “I tried a 1080ti for...
worse than a 1080”

[maiden nymph]

I didn't say 1080 ti was worse than a 1080 lmao

it was 2 seperate messages

I was saying a 2060 is worse than a 1080

[nocturne bison]

Oooh

[spark kindle]

you gotta learn how to write then mate because you made that real confusing

[wind cosmos]

1080ti vs 5700xt though, the real battle

[maiden nymph]

i answered your question so you should cover reading more bud

context

[wind cosmos]

Chill

[maiden nymph]

1080 ti stomps the 5700xt power consumption-wise and esp cooling

[nocturne bison]

Well, yeah, the 2060 is in between 1070ti and 1080 when not ocd

[maiden nymph]

I undervolted my 2060 for a 10% boost

undervolting + overclocking is the way to go

lower thermals and TDP yet higher clocks, why wouldn't anyone choose over straight OC'ing

[spark kindle]

i’ve never understood AMD on the GPU side. how can they be SO good with CPUs and yet struggle with high end gpus

[nocturne bison]

Buut, my card runs at around 2050Mhz GPU, +400 memory @sly dagger , it never goes over 75C

[maiden nymph]

Well if they did dominate GPU and CPU markets that wouldn't be too fair, unless of course they are just stoking competition like with intel then thats great

2040MHz + 200 memory, 69C MAX here lol

[nocturne bison]

So its pretty proportional

[lone pond]

like maybe you put it into the wrong PCI-e slot

[maiden nymph]

i'm at 88% TDP though

[lone pond]

ohk

[maiden nymph]

I only have a 550w bronze and tariffs or whatever made U.S. PSU prices crazy so I'm chillin

[nocturne bison]

Yeah I’m at 108%

[maiden nymph]

waiting for a good 750W gold then taking a 1080ti or 2080S

[lone pond]

but us have the best prices

[lethal zephyr]

Guys what graphics card should i get with a i7 4790 3,6ghz ( kinda budget one) i was thinking about a RX 580 or a 1650 super ( i have a 550W psu)

[maiden nymph]

580 8GB all the way

$120 resale about

[lone pond]

Go AMD

better price-performance

[maiden nymph]

you'll get maybe a trashy single fan 1650 for $140 + tax

[lone pond]

LMAO

[lethal zephyr]

worth waiting for RX 5500, maybe the prices will be cheaper ?

on older cards

[maiden nymph]

don't hold your breath, but it could be probable

I think for that card it would be just a better value, not exactly a lower price

maybe RX 590 performance or better for $160?

[lethal zephyr]

so rx 580 it is

i was thinking about the nitro+ or pulse model

[maiden nymph]

I wouldn't look for a specific cooler model just whatever's cheaper, you can always overclock for performance or undervolt for cooling

stick to a little over $100, but stay under $140 to retain the price to performance, and I would say the 8GB is worth it over the 4GB variant

[keen sentinel]

should i upgrade my 1060 to a 5700?

[maiden nymph]

what price?

[keen sentinel]

my pc isnt really the best and siege is laggy around smokes

[maiden nymph]

do you have the 3GB or 6GB

[keen sentinel]

6gb

[lone pond]

siege?

[keen sentinel]

rainbow six

[lone pond]

1080p?

[keen sentinel]

1366

[maiden nymph]

that's like

720p

[keen sentinel]

yeah basically

[lone pond]

then why the heck

[maiden nymph]

wait what

[lone pond]

are you lagging?

[maiden nymph]

do you have an athlon or a pentium?

[stable trout]

lol

[keen sentinel]

amd

[maiden nymph]

again, like an athlon or FX series?

[keen sentinel]

fx

[maiden nymph]

yeah no buddy you wanna replace that asap

[lone pond]

your graphics card

is the least of your problem

[stable trout]

did you check the CPU and GPU usage while playing?

[maiden nymph]

rainbow is really cpu-heavy

[stable trout]

your graphics card might be sleeping

[keen sentinel]

i have r6 on taskbar and its 24%

20 ish

[maiden nymph]

your gpu is 24%??

[stable trout]

i have a gtx 1080 and an i7 7700 and my gpu is at 50-60% while the cpu is 100%

[keen sentinel]

cpu

clocked at 4ghz+

[maiden nymph]

while tabbed out

no yeah piledriver era cpu's

they did 4.0Ghz all day

but horrible single-core performance

[keen sentinel]

so

new cpu?

[maiden nymph]

you definitely need a cpu

without a doubt

[keen sentinel]

ryzen 5 will do?

[stable trout]

yes

[maiden nymph]

get a 2600 combo for like $180 and you'll see at least 30 fps improvement

[lone pond]

why not buy a new PC instead I doubt you know how to build a PC

messing with a motherboard will be tough for you

[stable trout]

yikes

[keen sentinel]

im not using my other monitor

so currenlty im on vsync

60hz

[maiden nymph]

is your other monitor 1080p?

[keen sentinel]

60fps clocked

[stable trout]

no no no

[keen sentinel]

other monitor is ultrawide

[stable trout]

never play on vsync

[maiden nymph]

always play on v-sync for single player games

[keen sentinel]

i get screen tearing without vsync

and its really noticeable in siege

[stable trout]

but thats an fps game

[lone pond]

if it was just replacing a graphics card then I say go for it

but then a new cpu means a new motherboard new ram new stuffs

[maiden nymph]

yeah, hence not a single-player game

don't never use v-sync, just don't use it in competitive games

[stable trout]

and it adds a ton of delay

[maiden nymph]

for GTA or Witcher 3 it doesnt matter

[keen sentinel]

without vsync i get around 120+ fps

[stable trout]

so whats the problem?

turn it off

happy life

[keen sentinel]

smoke grenades make it lag

really bad

[maiden nymph]

because of your cpu

[lone pond]

cpu problems

[maiden nymph]

best way to spend your money is to pick up a cheap Ryzen 5 1600/2400 + mobo used on your local selling app for around $100

[stable trout]

what GPU does he have?

[maiden nymph]

oh and you'll need new RAM, you can do 2x8GB 3200 MHz new for about $60

GTX 1060 3Gb

[stable trout]

not 6gb?

[maiden nymph]

it doesnt matter

not at 1366x768

vram is the least of his worries

[stable trout]

he sent a screen shot

its closer to 1080p

[lone pond]

that's just

[stable trout]

1836x1032

[maiden nymph]

oh

[lone pond]

he doesn't know how his settings work

he prob scaled his res up

instead of 100%

[keen sentinel]

r00d

i wanted to make the game look nicer

[lone pond]

buy a new monitor instead

[maiden nymph]

what res is your ultrawide

[stable trout]

is your monitor really in that res?
@keen sentinel

[maiden nymph]

he said he has a second ultrawide

[keen sentinel]

im not using my ultrawide atm

its a cheap ish acer monitor

@stable trout the 1836x1032?

[stable trout]

yes

[keen sentinel]

no

its 1366x768

[stable trout]

god damn

you have an ultrawide but not a normal display

[keen sentinel]

im currently not using the ultrawide

[lone pond]

at this point why not just use your TV to play

I think at least your tv has 1080p

[steel pebble]

someone else with a weird res

[keen sentinel]

quick recap of what i need help with

siege lags when smoke grenades are on screen

[stable trout]

i dont suggest ultrawide, just buy a new monitor while you but the rest of the components

[lone pond]

and we told you

CPUUUUUUUUUUUU

[maiden nymph]

Look the bottom line is this: overhaul your cpu platform and switch to your other monitor, best way to spend your money not a $330 RX 5700

Ultrawide is fine don't buy another monitor

their minimum res is 1080p

[keen sentinel]

sure

[lone pond]

get somebody else to build your new PC instead of doing it yourself

[stable trout]

yes, but there are more pixels to paint and the FOV is trash

[lone pond]

you probably has no ideas

[maiden nymph]

CPU - $100 mobo -$60 RAM - $50 for like a fraction of a new gpu

yeah that wouldn't be a bad idea

is your budget the price of a 5700?

[stable trout]

i would like to find parts this cheap in my country lol

[keen sentinel]

around there

[maiden nymph]

Things we would need: your current PSU rated wattage and certification (bronze, gold, etc) country, case size (atx, matx) and max budget

[keen sentinel]

i'll just get a new cpu thanks

[maiden nymph]

you cant

you're on FX

[keen sentinel]

i'll just get a new pc thanks

[stable trout]

lmao

if you can do that sure

[lone pond]

I suggest that's for the best

[maiden nymph]

i mean if this guy has a 1366 monitor he's probably buying pre-built

[keen sentinel]

this pc is like my weird work station thing

[maiden nymph]

yep

[keen sentinel]

its good for cad n stuff

but not really gaming

[maiden nymph]

an FX is not good for cad lol

[keen sentinel]

it works

[stable trout]

works != good

[maiden nymph]

working != being good for

^^

lol

[keen sentinel]

i didnt have enough budget at that time

or research on parts

[maiden nymph]

we typed out at the same time

[stable trout]

yep lol

[maiden nymph]

can you build it yourself?

[lone pond]

I assure you that was because you were clueless not because of budget

👌

[dreamy dragon]

This_is_Alex#8524 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stable trout]

even the "!="

XD

[keen sentinel]

welp ok

[steel pebble]

oh

[maiden nymph]

well its okay whats done is done

[keen sentinel]

im not that clueless

[maiden nymph]

can you build it and what country are you in

bc it won't make sense to build if youre in czecholsovakia or sumthin lol

[lone pond]

wow

that's racist

[maiden nymph]

wdym

[steel pebble]

lol

[maiden nymph]

import prices would destroy you

[stable trout]

doesnt mean he has to buy everything online

[keen sentinel]

i have a pc store around here

[stable trout]

just check prices wherever here is

[maiden nymph]

even local, foreign countries dont have too much variety on good parts because local people arent buying custom either lol

[lone pond]

I want that pentium 4

[maiden nymph]

are you not in the US?

[lone pond]

get me one

[steel pebble]

i could get you a pentium d

[lone pond]

eww

dual cores

no ty

[stable trout]

lel

i want 1 core pls

[steel pebble]

lol it came out of my old xps from 06

[stable trout]

how does a cpu "come out" :D

[maiden nymph]

scrapping a pc

or re-purposing

[stable trout]

im kidding lel

[maiden nymph]

and i'll have you know i like the new pentiums

[keen sentinel]

jack whats ur pc specs

[maiden nymph]

dual core with hyper-threading

[steel pebble]

athlon>pentium

[maiden nymph]

intel core i5 7600k w/ RTX 2060

the new athlon cpus are not that bad on paper tbh, but gaming-wise there leaves a lot to be desired

[steel pebble]

yea

[maiden nymph]

I keep trying to justify a new CPU but with mine clocked at 4.7 GHz it doesn't make sense to spend $400 on a new cpu + motherboard ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stable trout]

i want a new one too but its too pricy

[maiden nymph]

what are you looking at?

and what country are you in lol b/c you add like $100+ to the price

[stable trout]

ryzen 9 3900x or ryzen 7 3800x

[steel pebble]

im getting a new one in couple of weeks 🙂

[lone pond]

my 3900x is due tmr

[maiden nymph]

ain't gotta flex on me lol, and which one zeck

[stable trout]

im in israel rip

[lone pond]

goodbye 7700k I won't miss your sorry ass

[maiden nymph]

what's wrong with kaby lake??

[steel pebble]

i wanna get a r7 3800x

[lone pond]

can't stream good enuff

for my purposes

[keen sentinel]

btw anyone plays siege here

[maiden nymph]

fair enough

yeah I was gonna say, pure-gaming intel reigns supreme

[steel pebble]

na i play cs

[maiden nymph]

I don't want them to, but it is what it is

[stable trout]

i play rainbow6

[keen sentinel]

cs sucks tbh

[stable trout]

and f intel

[maiden nymph]

r6 sucks

[keen sentinel]

i spent wayy to many hours on it

[lone pond]

I could careless about actual gaming performance on any high end cpus

it all comes down to 3 - 5 %

negligible

I want that sick performance for emulation

and stuffs

[keen sentinel]

althought cs skills helped me in r6

[stable trout]

my cpu leaves my GPU at 50-60% usage rip

[maiden nymph]

don't idolize a company, they're after your money and you should buy what's better and suits your needs

[lone pond]

AMD destroys

[steel pebble]

^^^

[lone pond]

would be stupid to buy a PC just for "GAMING", before you know you will do everything with it

[maiden nymph]

sure they do, but what happens after they beat intel in gaming with like ryzen 4th gen? they'll just raise prices like intel did. again, don't go for Team X, go for Team Better Product

[lone pond]

right now AMD wins

handsdown

[stable trout]

yep

[maiden nymph]

CPU-wise, generally yes

[stable trout]

i need more cores and they have it in a lower price

[maiden nymph]

intel has overpriced mobo chipsets

[lone pond]

my stream is gonna be so smooth

[maiden nymph]

what gpu do you have

[lone pond]

with that new 3900x

1080 ti

[steel pebble]

whats your twitch?

[lone pond]

well I only stream for friends

do it as a hobby kind of thing

[maiden nymph]

and you're buying a $400 cpu lol

that's an expensive hobby

[keen sentinel]

lmao

[lone pond]

not only that I have a 4k capture card

sitting in my rig as well

[steel pebble]

lol

[keen sentinel]

am i the only one whos getting a vibe from this guy

[maiden nymph]

Yeah dude I think a 3800x or even a 3700x would've already made a huge improvement for a few bucks less

[lone pond]

if it wasn't for the horrible values

I would get an 2080 ti already

[maiden nymph]

but you did come from a 7700k so i think you're not one to upgrade every year so props for that

you should be waiting 3-5 years for cpu upgrades if you spend the right amount

[fallen schooner]

👀

[lone pond]

I'm all about " Spending lots of moneh on the right stuffs "

then you don't have to upgrade

[maiden nymph]

and don't look at 2080ti then

[lone pond]

every year because your performance stinks

[maiden nymph]

look at the 2080 Super

if you're actually about "spending it on the right things"

[lone pond]

2080 super do more or less the same as my current gpu

[maiden nymph]

then you don't need to upgrade

wait for 3080

[lone pond]

I never said I want to upgrade my gpu

[stable trout]

wouldnt it be 2180?

[maiden nymph]

welp thats true

wait you said you would buy a 2080ti if it was cheaper

[lone pond]

nah

[maiden nymph]

honestly who knows, they went from 10 to 16 and 20

[lone pond]

I said it was bad because I wouldn't be gaining all that much

[maiden nymph]

what's next, 26xx?

[lone pond]

1080 ti in theory still kicks ass

[maiden nymph]

have you tried undervolting?

[steel pebble]

me?

[maiden nymph]

anyone here

I just found out about it and it's amazing

[lone pond]

depends on the GPU

some actually gain from it

[maiden nymph]

Lower power usage, lower temps, higher clock speeds and higher performance

[stable trout]

really?

[maiden nymph]

yessir

at least on my 2060 and a 1080 ti i've tried

[lone pond]

like the radeon VII for example

[stable trout]

i got a water cooling for my 1080 so whatever

[maiden nymph]

i cannot find a downside to undervolting

but what if it was lower

and it cost $0

YOU SAVE ON POWER BILLS LOL

fractionally, nothing crazy

[steel pebble]

stonks

[stable trout]

how can you undervolt the gpu

?

[maiden nymph]

on msi afterburner

hit CTRL + F

then you get your graph you can adjust

[stable trout]

oh thats cool

[steel pebble]

i havent used afterburner in forever

[maiden nymph]

read up on what your specific GPU can do though, don't go just for the highest overclock and make sure you're still giving it enough juice lol

you're working with MV

[stable trout]

MV?

[maiden nymph]

I did 0.975mV (it was at 1.15mV) and +150MHz on the core on my RTX 2060

millivolts

[stable trout]

oh

[maiden nymph]

thousands of 1 volt

[stable trout]

ik

[lone pond]

I don't feel like I need the extra performance from any OC ever

[maiden nymph]

you're missing the point

[stable trout]

just never saw anyone write MV

[maiden nymph]

meant mV lol

that would be Mega volts lol

[stable trout]

i need to go, can you help me do it later?

[maiden nymph]

sure thing, but I got everything from typing (gpu name) + undervolting tutorial

just so you can do it on your own time

[stable trout]

k

bye for now

[maiden nymph]

goodbye

[steel pebble]

jack is a wizard

[lone pond]

upon further inspection on my used gadgets

I still have a HD 4850

that's so cool

[maiden nymph]

I'm just about squeezing each cent of performance out of my hardware

and nice

[steel pebble]

i have 2 6800's

[lone pond]

HD 4850 on a phenom 2 x4 955 rig

that's so awesome

full AMD

I'll give this PC to my nephew

[stable trout]

@maiden nymph im back, can you help me with the tuning of the voltage?

[fallen schooner]

msi afterburner 😉

[dreamy dragon]

Bongo-Longo#7332 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stable trout]

:(

[fallen schooner]

bruh

[stable trout]

no sh$t

[maiden nymph]

uh oh

yeah i can help

[stable trout]

how are we doing this?

[fallen schooner]

if it was already mentioned, I didn't see.

[maiden nymph]

you want to hit CTRL + F

should bring up a graph

[stable trout]

that i understand

but like how do i get the best values

[maiden nymph]

what gpu do you have? and what is its boost clock?

[stable trout]

gxt 1080

gtx*

[maiden nymph]

what does it turbo up to at how many mV? (should be on afterburner)

[stable trout]

1936Mhz
1.2V

[maiden nymph]

Alright on the graph, do you see the X-axis?

that's gonna be your voltage in mV, and the y-axis is the clock speed

[stable trout]

Voltage axis, yes

i know how to read :P

and i know math

[maiden nymph]

mhmm, I would start with setting the .975mV to your clock speed

*turbo speed

[stable trout]

so from 1.2 to .975?

[maiden nymph]

so basically you're gonna have the graph do a gradual curve up until you hit .975 mV @ 1936 MHz

and from then on, it becomes a straight horizontal line

[stable trout]

so can i just remove all the dots to make it easier?

[maiden nymph]

I haven't found a way to do it but an easier way is to set the highest point (the one i mentioned) then every dot after just drag it below that highest point for every dot (tedious i know) and finally hit apply

it should straighten out the graph after the 0.975 mV 1936 MHz point

lets say that is the high point

[stable trout]

leave the base clock as is?

[maiden nymph]

well there's not really a way to adjust the base clock

the card uses as much power as it needs and ramps up with load

if it's idle, it sips power and clocks low

[stable trout]

just like that?

[maiden nymph]

looks good

do you have furmark or a quick game you can boot up to determine if its stable?

basically no crash = good

[stable trout]

furmark comes with msi afterburner

[maiden nymph]

i think at .975 mV you shouldnt have any issues

[stable trout]

lets see

[maiden nymph]

and try it

[stable trout]

for how long should i let it run?

[maiden nymph]

I mean you'll know its bad if it crashes or freezes up within a few seconds

[stable trout]

when i tried overclocking a while ago it just crashed after 30 mins of playing

so idk

[harsh jackal]

yo

[maiden nymph]

from this point, you keep going depending on what you want, either lower temps and noise at the same performance or same volts at higher clocks

and with undervolting its different

[stable trout]

k thanks

doesnt really help with temps tho

[maiden nymph]

keep moving the boost clock lower

if you make it to 845mV you'll start to notice

i think once you hit 700mV it's a bigger cooling boost but huge hit on performance

[fallen schooner]

oh dang red devils back in stock 😮

[trail swallow]

hey guys if anyone has gpu sag and is looking for a minimalistic almost invisible solution check this link http://www.lian-li.com/gb-001/

[fallen schooner]

lego stacks better.

[ancient crystal]

lian-li comes up with some wild stuff

also it's amazing how much i have to alter my sentences before hitting enter because of the profanity rule, i never realized how profane i was, though it also was not something that bothers me

i remember being a teenager and looking at the lian-li cases that cost $200-$300 back in the first couple years of the 2000s when I really wanted to build a PC (I never did, I bought a prebuilt from a local computer shop that wasn't very good (celeron 433, 96MB RAM, some kind of S3 GPU)

was jealous of my friend's 32MB (!) nvidia Riva 128, that thing was amazing

[fallen schooner]

lol

[ancient crystal]

the best thing was when the GPU had a molex connector on it for extra power

[fallen schooner]

those were the days.

[ancient crystal]

they were certainly some days yes

days i don't want to go back to, ever

i really appreciate the modern technology we have now, it's easy to understand and literally anyone can make a build

even me, oddly enough

[fallen schooner]

yep they took 'plug and play' and ran with it.

kids now adays have no idea about the master/slave jumper pins.

😄

[lean crystal]

can a 1060 run most games?

*evga gtx 1060

[fallen schooner]

3gb or 6gb

ver

[lean crystal]

6

[fallen schooner]

for sure

[lean crystal]

ok good

[fallen schooner]

medium settings

high

which titles you play most?

tons of info out there with gpu / game frames

[lean crystal]

overwatch, xplane11, roblox, and apex legenda

legends

[ancient crystal]

those games run on a potato, you are fine to max them out and get super great FPS

[lean crystal]

ok

[ancient crystal]

dunno about xplane

but the rest

[lean crystal]

i thinks its good

[somber sandal]

no its not that great id suggest somethin new like a 1660 super

[ancient crystal]

it has to do with the individual's budget too

i wouldn't recommend someone buy a 1060, but i certainly would recommend keeping it as long as is humanly possible since it was an expensive card back in its day

[somber sandal]

thats true but i wudent get somethin that will stop geting driver updates in like two years and id futur prof my pc for atleast 5 years of decent gaming thas why the 1060 is a bad coise right now.

[ancient crystal]

sure, it's a bad choice to purchase the card right now but i do not think this person is purchasing it, they are probably using one for a while now

[somber sandal]

if thats the case then its great

keep rocking the 1060

[ancient crystal]

i have a 1650, it had to fit into the limits of using only board power for me at this point

[somber sandal]

why only board power?

[ancient crystal]

because of the system i have right now

i bought a prebuilt because my budget suited it better at the time

now i'm about to rebuild

[hard wren]

powersupply that lacks cables?

[ancient crystal]

i've got everything but the CPU and the CPU cooler

well it's more like it doesn't physically fit a larger card

[hard wren]

ah

[ancient crystal]

i could put an RM750 into the case

but there's the whole front USB assembly connector in my way of putting a better card in, and i'm not giving up my USB ports

[hard wren]

cheap riser cable could get you by in the mean time

[ancient crystal]

probably, i just don't want to fuss with it

[somber sandal]

i wana build a new pc and sell my prebulid but the pc that i wana build costs alot

[ancient crystal]

i'm about to build a new PC that will handle a better card

build a PC within your budget

https://www.logicalincrements.com/

buy it part by part like i am, if you have to

[somber sandal]

not good enoug i wana raise my buget and then build it

[ancient crystal]

well i don't know, just become rich or something

[somber sandal]

no if i do that then a diferent part will get outdated

[ancient crystal]

that guide is still useful

[somber sandal]

haha wish i culd

[ancient crystal]

i was being a bit sarcastic there

because i know that increasing one's budget isn't easy

[somber sandal]

i know beter than anyone have been working night shifts to raise some money for the pc

[ancient crystal]

oof

[somber sandal]

also working 12h instead of 8

but after im done ill have a NZXT H510, a X 570 with r3700x, a gtx 1080 and 16 gigs of trident y 3600mhz pc itlbe amazing

z not y

[ancient crystal]

you can get something better for the same price as the 1080 probably

a 2070 Super is likely not any more money at this point

[somber sandal]

no im kepeng my old 1080 that i stuck to my prebuild

[ancient crystal]

oh okay

yeah then that's the way to do it

that's an expensive GPU