#graphics-cards

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fallen schooner
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but honestly when I used it I had no complaints.

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it ran fine.

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gtx 1080 fe

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❤

dreamy haven
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it will be louder than I would care for, but yeah...I can always replace the stock shroud and cooler later

granite juniper
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u can just get a water block

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hehe

fallen schooner
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uhm. depends on your current CPU.

dreamy haven
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uhhh

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that will not effectively drive a 4K display for gaming

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maybe with low settings, but idk

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even the 2060 will struggle at 4K

granite juniper
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^

dreamy haven
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4K gaming takes a LOT of graphic juice

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it's not like watching a 4K video

fallen schooner
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if you get that 1660ti, you'll bottle neck that gpu a bit

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until you upgrade cpu.

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maybe go 7serires or 8.,

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depending on your budget

near lodge
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So banking on the rx5700xt being able to do 4k ultra and vr stuff pretty well? lol

fallen schooner
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not to familiar with the sockets on intel

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moar is always better.

dreamy haven
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@near lodge no

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vr stuff yes

fallen schooner
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not yet at least

near lodge
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I didn't figure based on everything I've read and watched.

dreamy haven
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it is intended for high rate 1440p gaming, not 4K

near lodge
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😦

fallen schooner
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"can't wait for that 6700xt"

granite juniper
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would the 2070super be able to push 120fps 1440p or would u need a 2080 super

near lodge
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oof

fallen schooner
dreamy haven
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yes Nuclear

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it should

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if you want to seriously game at 4K, the 2080Ti is recommended, a few lower cards can do it but not as well, like the 2080 or the radeon VII

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the 5700XT and 2070/2070 Super should be dominant in the 1440p range

near lodge
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hmmm noted. Thanks pohemi. I figured that was the best option for 4k gaming but I wasn't prepared to cri.

dreamy haven
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heh yeah

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I gave up when I realized the GPU power required

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sticking with 1440p for now hehe

near lodge
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Never give up hope

dreamy haven
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nah I'm just not prepared to spend 1200 on a GPU and then another 800-1k for a display lol

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right

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the radeon VII is capable of it, but it's not specific for gaming, unfortunately

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it makes a far better compute card

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and it's the last hurrah of CGN

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lol

foggy swallow
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@surreal vine get a ryzen 3600

dreamy haven
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you need a new system tbh

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not a lot of point in upgrading to a current-gen GPU with everything else lagging behind

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it's a huge bottleneck tbh

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better off waiting on a GPU, get a mobo/cpu/RAM

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then get a GPU later when you can afford it

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the existing GPU will run in a new system

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it might be old and slow or w/e but it will keep running

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my 2 cents anyway

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I'm a pro at incrementally upgrading and rebuilding, but there are certain points where the heart needs replacing

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and you're at that point

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lol

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you'll be glad you did, I think

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newer, snappier system on DDR4

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and RAM is cheap atm so it'd be a decent time to buy

foggy swallow
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tridenz begs to differ

topaz hornet
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I got 32GB TridentZ for $144

foggy swallow
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when trident z says that bc it is "For amd" it is double the price

dreamy haven
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advanced search DDR4-3200 CL14

foggy swallow
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you can get 32gb 3600 for that price

dreamy haven
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there are g. skill sets ripjaws iirc for cheaper

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16gb set for 120 32gb set for 250

fallen schooner
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there is a 16gb 3,000mhz kit right now for 65 bucks..

dreamy haven
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it's the same samsung b-die chips

fallen schooner
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corsair, non rgb

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cl 15

foggy swallow
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dude lpx is the best value

fallen schooner
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yep

dreamy haven
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yeah if tight timings aren't a concern, there is much cheaper options

foggy swallow
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you can get 16gb 3000 for like $65

fallen schooner
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...thats what I just said ;p

foggy swallow
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oh rip lol

dreamy haven
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lol

foggy swallow
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frick now i want to buy trident z royal ram XD

fallen schooner
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it is nice looking ram

foggy swallow
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yeah it is just a little over priced

dreamy haven
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ughh

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too much bling for me

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lol

foggy swallow
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dang that is 1 8 gig stick of 3600 for $35!!

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now that is the value king

dreamy haven
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that's the cheapeast b-die on newegg atm

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for a 16gb kit anyway

pastel field
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i bought this for $60 at christmas. I have insane buyers regret

lone pond
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I am looking for a graphics card under $400 without the need for an extra power source

vestal sparrow
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Nvidia or AMD?

lone pond
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either

vestal sparrow
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What's your current PSU wattage?

lone pond
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how do i know that (I didnt build it)

vestal sparrow
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Is there a glass panel on your build?

lone pond
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no

vestal sparrow
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Can you open it up?

lone pond
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yes

vestal sparrow
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Please do so

lone pond
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ok

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i will be back

obtuse spindle
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the PSU may also be under a shroud in the bottom

lone pond
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ok

vestal sparrow
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Would it be worth it to buy a used 1080 or a 5700xt?

dense flicker
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personally id get the 5700xt

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but thats just me

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used 1080 will probably give better performance

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i just dont wanna buy used and risk getting a card that was abused for mining

vestal sparrow
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True

granite juniper
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just ask them if it was mined on or overclocked/whatever u have a question about @vestal sparrow

vestal sparrow
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I did

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They said it hasn't been used recklessly and it hasn't been mined on

lone pond
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back it said 280 Watts max

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hello?

vestal sparrow
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oof

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thats a rip

obtuse spindle
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yeah, that's a big ol ripperino

tired stump
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280W doesn’t give you much room for GPU expansion. I’d say take $50 of that 400 to buy a 500W PSU first

vestal sparrow
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You could try a gtx 1650

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But minimum wattage for that gpu is 300 watt

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I think Samot's suggestion is good

obtuse spindle
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yeah, definitely

lone pond
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ok

vestal sparrow
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Is your computer a dell oem?

lone pond
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Lenovo

tired stump
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Also, do you have any idea what CPU you have? No sense dropping 300-400 on a GPU if you’re being bottlenecked by a slow CPU

lone pond
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it is an 8th gen i7

terse parcel
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yeah you should probably get better psu before getting the gpu

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i got a corsair 750watt bronze for 35$ on a holiday sale

lone pond
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I am also thinking of a new PC because this one has problem afetr problem

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after*

terse parcel
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you should build one

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they are a lot cheaper then a prebuilt and tend to use better parts

lone pond
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I was wondering if anybody could advise me on my pc build? I think I have the parts I want but just wondering if they are the right ones. Trying to stay around 1500

remote forge
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Thinking about completing my backup PC soon and getting the 5700xt

little slate
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honestly I don't see a point of getting a 5700 or 5700xt

remote forge
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@lone pond what are you using it for?

little slate
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their cooler design is bad, software is still lacking, they just don't really offer anything over nvidia

remote forge
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Getting a waterblock for the 5700xt

tame karma
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I'd avoid getting the 5700 or 5700x until the partner boards come out

little slate
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that makes even less sense, spending that much money on a custom loop for a subpar gpu

tame karma
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As some reviews have shown, putting a better cooler actually increases performance by a fair margin

lone pond
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@remote forge just games mostly, arma 3 CSGO and hoping to try out star citizen

remote forge
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Well I have a custom loop already. The 5700xt would replace my much loved vega 56 which that would slide over to my backup which will also have a custom loop.

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@lone pond imaufor 1500 you could pretty much build a great gaming PC. What resolution?

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The 5700 xt has some real legs to it if you can cool it well.

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Drivers will improve

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If nvidia had something with similar performance at the same price I would consider it

gusty hearth
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That’s not how this works

faint harness
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Found a Zotac GeForce gtx 1070 Ti for $320, no drivers installed. Is that a good deal?

cold stream
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Yeah pretty good deal

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maybe shoot for a 2060 super though?

faint harness
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Gotcha thanks !

lone pond
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i think thats a great deal

remote forge
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1070ti for $320 is a good deal

topaz hornet
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I can’t decide if I should get an RX 5700 XT or RTX 2070 Super

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I have read that RX drivers are very bad on Linux

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And I need to run a VM once in a while

cold stream
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no clue

lone pond
topaz hornet
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An well it has ray tracing

lone pond
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Also chances are you will have less cooling issues with the 2070 super and possibly less driver issues. The new AMD cards have been found to run pretty hot.

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So 2070 Super if you can afford it.

remote forge
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Can't wait to see what 5700xt can do when water cooled.

oblique cypress
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oo

remote forge
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Bet I can clock it up to 2100 mhz

little slate
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My 1080ti struggles running at over 2030 mhz 🙁

fallen schooner
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well.. yeah

rancid yoke
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I get that but with the case being so open I figured it wouldn't help much. Guess it can't hurt.

remote forge
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Eh?

fallen schooner
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wrong channel @rancid yoke 😛

remote forge
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Oh

rough harness
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RTX 2080TI.... fans are not spinning... even under manual speed setting... about to tear it apart and look for loose wires... GRRRRR. Less then 1 month old... not sure if they have ever turned on... lol.. never played with the settings.

fallen schooner
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...dont tear into it

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warranty..

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what manu?

rough harness
fallen schooner
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and what program are you using to adjust..

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oh

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Aorus

rough harness
fallen schooner
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unistall...

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install MSI Afterburner

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unless @magic pebble can help you with that.

rough harness
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Playing with that now.. will see what happens

cold stream
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My 1660 ti can do 2000mhz

lone pond
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Would a RX 460 do well for casual gaming?

cold stream
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Why not a 560?

fallen schooner
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cause they asked about the 460

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@lone pond which games?

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any particular reason for that card?

lone pond
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Like Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Terraria, etc.

rough harness
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Never thought the program made by the company would not have the fans spin...thanks @fallen schooner that started them spinning... so odd

lone pond
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For games like what ur sayin they would work decently crazyfox

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ok

fallen schooner
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@rough harness yeah that software is... reaaaaally bad right now.

rough harness
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Can see that... blows my mind.

fallen schooner
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they get a lot of 💩 for it

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I believe they are working on a whole new thing.

rough harness
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I appreciate the input.. saved me some headache

fallen schooner
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No prob

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had to pump the breaks on that tear down. lol

rough harness
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I was going to gently look before I actually did a real tear down... 1000$ card... I don’t want to void that crap

magic pebble
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Just saw the ping. @rough harness avoid the easytune software right now. If you uninstall the app the fans should start working properly again.

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Basically only software to really use right now is rgb fusion

rough harness
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@magic pebble done and done. BoX got me straight on it

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Thank you

remote forge
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Your right about that gigabyte software. Had it on a gtx 1060 6gb. It was garbage. None of the settings worked

fallen schooner
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yep

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some guys get lucky

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but it's few and far between.

remote forge
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Yeah

dreamy haven
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groans at newegg's shipping dept

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I would swear that opting for overnight delivery somehow prompts them to drag their feet getting the order out the door lol

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pulled the trigger early yesterday on an RX 5700 XT, card charged and marked as packaging within 2 hours of the order...hasn't changed, no shipping update today as expected, hoping the info system and emails are just delayed but not looking good atm lol

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card definitely won't get here tomorrow if it hasn't left the warehouse yet

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is jonesin to hear his new jet take off when he fires up a game lol

oblique cypress
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jeez man

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i doubt it'll be that loud

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unless it's under a lot of load

dreamy haven
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eh, it's been a while but I know what a blower reference card sounds like compared to the better aftermarket cards like the strix series

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they tend to run hot and loud, relatively

fluid peak
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Much like myself

dreamy haven
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it's ok though, if it ends up being that terrible I'll just get an aftermarket to install on it

fluid peak
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Sorry btw I just got a notification that said "they tend to run hot and loud" and I found that fitting

dreamy haven
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lol

rough harness
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AMD run hot?? No.....

dreamy haven
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reference cards, especially speaking...

oblique cypress
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lol

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it had a reputation for running hort

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h0t

dreamy haven
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'vapor chamber' marketing fluff or not

magic pebble
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Custom loop fixes it

main mauve
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Are the RTX Super cards gen4 PCIe?

dense flicker
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i dont think so

remote forge
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Nope

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They don't saturate gen 3

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Fully

main mauve
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Okay; thanks

remote forge
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Can't wait to get my hands on a 5700xt and a waterblock

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My inside voice coming outside again

full veldt
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Is there a place where you can buy/sell computer parts easily?

dawn lynx
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eBay

full veldt
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I heard it’s kinda sketchy

dawn lynx
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Just make sure there is returns on the item your buying

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So if it doesn’t work just return

dense flicker
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it all depends on the seller as with any used user based store

full veldt
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Ah okay. Thank you!

dawn lynx
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Make sure they have a decent rating too

full veldt
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How do I check that

dawn lynx
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Usually says a number like 94% positive feedback

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Scroll down

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See about the seller

full veldt
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Oh I gotcha.

dawn lynx
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This guy has 100% success rate with over 148 orders

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People like that are trustworthy

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Thad just an example of a random part, you don’t need to buy from him

obtuse spindle
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yeah, and don't just look at percentages

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look at their reviews

magic pebble
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what are you trying to buy on ebay

main mauve
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Today is the day

remote forge
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Facebook marketplace, craigslist, and the harware swap subreddit are also potential places as well

cloud epoch
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so what do you all think about the new amd radeon rx 5700?

main mauve
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Might be nice for a mini itx build since they are currently only blower style cards

remote forge
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@cloud epoch I think its a very strong part but should be priced $50 less. At $349 the XT is just $50 more for much more performance.

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Also, it is some what constrained in over clocking compared to the more powerful XT

cloud epoch
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well the MOBO i got is an atx but the tower will have water cooling for the cpu and quite a few fans

fallen schooner
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rx5700 are great, they just have trouble dissipating heat

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would wait for third party sellers for better cooling.

lost minnow
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^^^

fallen schooner
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unless you put it under water.

worldly crow
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@fallen schooner which is why i never buy blower cards unless theres a waterblock for them lol

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think my last blower card was a nvidia gtx 9800+ superclocked

fallen schooner
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mine was this 1080fe

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which worked rather well honestly.

lone pond
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So I’m doing my first build ever, and I’m wondering which gpu I should buy. I will be using low/competitive settings so I don’t need anything fancy. Does anybody have any suggestions for a gpu that is budget friendly?

fallen schooner
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well what other specs you going for 😃

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and budget.

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then we can give you the best balance for your build.

topaz hornet
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@lone pond what games will you play, what is your budget, what are your PC specs

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Also, what monitor do you have

lone pond
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R6, Csgo, Apex Legends, Fortnite

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My pc specs are
Ryzen 5 2600
16 ddr4 t force ram
512 gb ssd
500 watt bronze
Gigabyte b450 Auorus
Cooler master hyper 212

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I plan to buy a 144hz monitor but right now mine is 75hz

topaz hornet
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I’d say an RTX 2060 or an RX 5700

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Or 1660 Ti if those go over your budget

lone pond
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Um ya I was looking at maybe an rx580 or a gtx 1660

granite juniper
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whats ur budget @lone pond

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for the card

lone pond
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$280

granite juniper
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hmmm

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I’d say 1660 ti is ur best bet, but might be able to find a good deal on a used 1080/2060

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I got a strix 1070 ti for 230, works like a champ

lone pond
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Wheres that deal at

granite juniper
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it was on eBay

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but it was used

lone pond
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Oh ok

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Is there anything bad about buying used cards?

granite juniper
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not really, just ask how long it was used/if it was mined or if it had a high oc on it

lone pond
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Alright thanks man

lone pond
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I wanna use corsairs new blocks, but im new to the custom block scene. Can a 2080 ti block be used for a 2080? And is there a place i can just buy the pcb itself without the fans? Or should i just buy an evga card and take the fans off myself?

dense flicker
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theres some graphics cards that come preinstalled with a water block

lone pond
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I wanna use corsair's new blocks

dense flicker
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oh

fallen schooner
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corsair should have a compatibility checker

lone pond
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Im a corsair fanboy. But i dont wanna just buy a gpu to have to take fans off wish i could justget the card itself...

fallen schooner
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but most likely a 1080ti will not work with a 1080.

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different pcb layouts.

lone pond
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Okay so, corsair and EK both dont have a "2080 waterblock" all they have is 2070 and 2080 ti

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Sorry i meant 2080 initially

fallen schooner
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oh

lone pond
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Ah so maybe corsair just doesnt have a 2080 block

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Which is odd

dense flicker
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that would be weird

lone pond
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I feel like the 2080ti block should fot the 2080

fallen schooner
lone pond
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Fit

dreamy dragonBOT
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Professor Moriarty#3660 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lone pond
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Ah so im just blind

dense flicker
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they require different cooling so nah they wouldn't be the

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same

lone pond
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Ah

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So i cant just buy a silicon board, I have to buy a branded card with fans?

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Now i have to feel bad when i void the warranty

fallen schooner
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evga, msi, and Aorus have 2080 with water blocks preinstalled @lone pond

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you pay premium for it.. but its an option.

lone pond
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Im going to use a corsair waterblock.

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@fallen schooner

dreamy haven
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so....

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I'm not seeing the expected manufacturer discounts on the regular 20xx series cards today with the release of the Supers

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wth, nvidia? or newegg? or both?

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should have expected as much

obtuse spindle
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because there are no official price drops from nvidia

dreamy haven
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so they announced it alongside the super release, but it wasn't official?

obtuse spindle
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all the reviews have already stated that there won't be any price drops

dreamy haven
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oh wow

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so nvidia still sticking it to consumers I guess

obtuse spindle
dreamy haven
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glad I didn't wait for today lol

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thought it was info from nvidia on the 2nd of the month but apparently I was mistaken

little slate
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From the reviews I've seen the super 2070 and 2080 are supposed to replace the originals, so with that in mind the remaining stock of 2070/2080s should drop in price significantly

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especially 2080, where the 2070 super performs almost identically for $300 less

dreamy haven
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right

cold stream
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as far as I know waterblocks for video cards have to be basically card-specific

dense flicker
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yeah

main mauve
lone pond
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585 dollars?

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tf

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You can get a rtx 2070 non super for 440 now

main mauve
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Yes; but that doesn't really answer my question... lol

lone pond
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oh shoot i didnt even see it my bad, im not really sure tbh

magic pebble
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Its the a8 version

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Check the part number

lone pond
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i7 9700 non k vs ryzen 7 3700x

paper magnet
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so guys i just installed my new graphics card and the fans aren't spinning

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it spins once i turn it on and the. it turns off

dense flicker
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the fans wont spin until it gets to a certain point where it needs to turn on

main mauve
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Thanks much @magic pebble

paper magnet
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@dense flicker OK THANKS THANK GOD

dense flicker
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at least im pretty sure

paper magnet
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it said so on the box

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i jsut didnt read it

dense flicker
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ah ok

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good

paper magnet
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rip

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now

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its performing poorly

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its not as good as my last card

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rx560

dense flicker
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what was ur last card

paper magnet
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rx560

dense flicker
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and what is ur current card

paper magnet
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rx570

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i just upgraded

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plugged in everything

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bad frames

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worse frames than rx560

dense flicker
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and

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youre sure

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your not using ur igpu

paper magnet
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nope

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its plugged into my gpu

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im getting horrible frames on fortnite

lone pond
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@paper magnet what graphics driver version are you using?

dense flicker
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oh yeah forgot about that

paper magnet
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  1. something
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19.7.1

dense flicker
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youre gonna wanna download the latest drivers from amd.com

paper magnet
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i did

dense flicker
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idk if thats the latest

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anyways

paper magnet
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19.7.1

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and like

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my mouse

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is really

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jittery

dense flicker
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are you sure fortnite is launching using your gpu

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and not ur igpu

paper magnet
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i know its not my igpu

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its not plugged into that

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it says on my task manager that my rx570 is there

dense flicker
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whats not plugged into that

paper magnet
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my digital port

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or

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video cable

dense flicker
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hmmmmm

paper magnet
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is it a wattage problem?

lone pond
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@paper magnet in the processes tab, what is utilizing all that cpu usage?

paper magnet
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forza

dense flicker
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...do you have 2 games open at once

paper magnet
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no

dreamy dragonBOT
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lil man#0420 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

paper magnet
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um

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it says

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98% cpu usage

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no gpu is there

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ummm

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it is

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using my igpu

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NOO

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frick how to fix

dense flicker
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i mean

lone pond
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it should be using your video card if you actually do have your monitor plugged into the video card. please double check

paper magnet
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it is

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plugged into

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the video card

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when i launch a game

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it doesnt show my gpu

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like

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on task manager

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the usage of the gpu

lone pond
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19.5.2

paper magnet
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how do i go back

lone pond
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go to control panel, add remove programs, remove the radeon drivers, then download and install the new ones from that page

paper magnet
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my gpu is being ignored when playin games

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do u know why

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its uninstalled

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so i did it

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@lone pond

lone pond
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@paper magnet you could also go to control panel -> hardware and sound -> device manager -> click under "display adapters" and right click on the integrated graphics and "disable" then load up a game again and see if that makes any difference. I would try that previous driver first though.

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@paper magnet you have the previous version driver installed?

paper magnet
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yea

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gpu not showing up

lone pond
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not showing up where?

dense flicker
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press performance

paper magnet
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here ill launch a game

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graphics card is like 10%

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cpu is like 100%

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let me launch

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and ill take a screenshot

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there

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@lone pond nothing

dense flicker
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youre getting 113fps

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and its at 30%

paper magnet
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its

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using my

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igpu

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ok

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idk

fallen schooner
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no it isnt

paper magnet
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it might be using the graphics card

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but

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like

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im getting bad bad frames

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and my mouse is jittery

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and i can barely move it

fallen schooner
#

did you restart

paper magnet
#

ya

fallen schooner
#

uninstall driver and reinstall.

paper magnet
#

i did

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2 times

fallen schooner
#

verify game files.

lone pond
#

you restarted your computer or just the game?

fallen schooner
#

reinstall game.

paper magnet
#

COMPUTER

#

sorry caps

#

@fallen schooner dude

#

that takes forever

fallen schooner
#

ok?

paper magnet
#

this is fortnite were talking

fallen schooner
#

cool

paper magnet
#

ok

#

um

#

ill try to see if i t works

#

so many frame drops

#

so manny

lone pond
#

@paper magnet also make sure the power cables connected to the new video card are fully seated, not just the black connectors fully pushed together but also check to see if all wires in the black connectors are fully pushed in

paper magnet
#

it works

#

its just a lot of frame drops

fallen schooner
#

are you on one monitor?

paper magnet
#

yea

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plugs are

fallen schooner
#

and you keep tabbing out?

paper magnet
#

mhm

fallen schooner
#

heh

#

discord open

#

discord users gpu as an accelerator, can turn that setting off

#

or just close discord completely

#

check game settings.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

paper magnet
#

so

#

fps drops

#

120 fps

#

60 fps

#

there are some fps drops too

lone pond
#

try closing all unneeded programs except the game and the game launcher and check fps again after also restarting the game. alt tabbing out and back into a game can cause lag in the game for awhile.

paper magnet
#

i am trying forza

#

is it a wattage problem

#

or no

#

or bottleneck?

lone pond
#

did you try my last suggestion but with forza?

paper magnet
#

im trying to

#

im launching forza rn

#

60 fps on high

#

my gpu is working

#

so uh

#

fh4 crashed

#

but im prettty sure

#

my graphics card works

lone pond
#

what is fh4?

paper magnet
#

forza horizon 4

#

@lone pond im not sure but i think it works

lone pond
#

what is forza getting on cpu and gpu usage?

paper magnet
#

50% gpu usage

#

cpu is like 50 i think

#

im gonna try very high see what happens

#

or ultra

lone pond
#

ok

paper magnet
#

70% gpu usage

#

in conclusion

#

the gpu works

#

thank @lone pond

lone pond
#

@paper magnet you're welcome. What about checking fortnite fps again with forza closed?

paper magnet
#

it was closed before

#

fh4

#

and i ran fortnite

#

all epic

#

60fps

lone pond
#

you should thank zlack and "iam old" too

#

are you happy with the fortnite fps? that 60fps might be capped in the game or capped by your monitor Hz with vsync on btw

paper magnet
#

its fine

#

if i got over

#

i get fps drops

#

@fallen schooner#2800 @dense flicker thanks guys for helping

lone pond
#

What will a 2080 rtx run frame wise on games like pubg with no frame caps and low graphics.

#

No shadows ect

oblique cypress
#

search it up on google with a processor of your choice

#

it'll show benchmarks

#

you can change the game settings and see what those parts would perform at

lone pond
fleet forge
#

what is a good 2080 ti to go with the corsair hydro x xg7

lone pond
violet kite
#

EVGA does some of the best aftermarket and proprietary stuff.

#

Always high-quality materials, well-priced, and usually not all that flashy while still being very nice and customizeable.

#

I buy almost 100% EVGA when I can.

#

They're just so reliable!

jagged tapir
#

A hundred dollars off ThinkingEgg

fleet forge
#

ok thx

jagged tapir
#

I wonder if this card will get cheaper over the next two weeks wuuut

magic pebble
#

Evga and gigabyte super cards are in stock at newegg now

granite juniper
#

yea

fallen schooner
#

But for how long

granite juniper
#

8.235872 ms

dusk dew
#

They gonna cut normal rtx prices by 50%

#

I hope

fallen schooner
#

doubt

magic pebble
#

rtx will stay the same until its gone just like pascal did

lone pond
#

For pubg, is 1440 a good trade for the fps drops from 1080 using a 2080?

#

With a i7 9700k

full veldt
#

Should I do 1: GTX 1060 6GB or 2: Two RX 580 8GB

dense flicker
#

getting two graphics cards is pointless

full veldt
#

@lone pond I never really tried gaming with 1440p, but if you can easily get 60 fps with it then yes, it is a good trade

dense flicker
#

if youre gaming

full veldt
#

Why is that

lone pond
#

Yes I want to know this

magic pebble
#

sli and crossfire dont scale well in the most games that it works in, and just doesnt work at all in most games

#

I played around with crossfire and best case in most games you will gain maybe 30% more fps

dense flicker
#

get a 1060

#

unless ur on a budget

magic pebble
#

more often then not the games would just crash

dense flicker
#

in that case the 580 is good

full veldt
#

I'm on a budget

dense flicker
#

get the 580

lone pond
#

So a twin 1080ti for gaming is

#

?

full veldt
#

Also in games that don't support it, it will just use one GPU

lone pond
#

A friend I know has a alien ware one, don't know the model

magic pebble
#

waste of money unless you are trying to do 4k and the game you are playing properly supports sli

lone pond
#

Overwatch?

magic pebble
#

doesnt work properly at all

lone pond
#

He's a English professor,idk why he spent it on one like that

full veldt
#

Overwatch actually supports it entirely

lone pond
#

Idk anything about overwatch,not interested in it after playing it for a few games

magic pebble
#

ya it supports it but it crashes and the scaling is only good for maybe 10fps

full veldt
#

But you definitely shouldn't SLI two 1080 tis

lone pond
#

I don't know the exact setup,just know it has 2 1080tis and I thought why would you need that

full veldt
#

Not from what my friend does. He has two GTX 760s and plays overwatch at 90 FPS

dusk dew
#

I'm getting a 2070 super but only at 1080p 165 hz, my budget ran out xD

lone pond
#

I don't know what games he plays,he's my sisters bf so

#

Is the 2070 better than a 1080

dusk dew
#

Yes

full veldt
#

Yes

magic pebble
#

maybe sli works better than crossfire

full veldt
#

But the price difference really isn't worth it

dusk dew
#

But 2070 is almost equal to 1080ti I think

#

But 2070 a little better

magic pebble
#

with crossfire I had issues with textures looking weird sometimes. Especially hair for some reason. And the fps barely went up and it introduced microstutter

full veldt
#

What GPUs did you crossfire

magic pebble
#

rx580s

full veldt
#

4GB?

magic pebble
#

8gb

full veldt
#

That's suprising

oblique cypress
#

tf

#

just get one rtx

#

🙄

full veldt
#

RTX has a whole new set of issues

magic pebble
#

3dmark scaled almost perfectly though

dusk dew
#

Never buy a first gen anything, for example: the rtx cards

full veldt
#

^

#

RTX cards have problems in UE4 games

magic pebble
#

I have been really happy with my rx580

#

about to swap it with a 2080 though

full veldt
#

Would you suggest just one 580 then?

magic pebble
#

for overwatch it would be great

#

Thats mostly what I play

dusk dew
#

W

full veldt
#

I'd wait for the next gen RTX cards to come out if I were you

magic pebble
#

1080p on a mix of mostly high and ultra I still get 140+fps

full veldt
#

That's really good

magic pebble
#

I have it locked to 140 right now so it doesnt go out of freesync range on my 144hz monitor

full veldt
#

I never really understood freesync and g sync

magic pebble
#

makes it much smoother at the expense of a couple ms of lag

full veldt
#

Eh I'd rather keep my speed

dense flicker
#

it basically solves screen tearing

full veldt
#

So would you say I should just get one 580 or get two?

dreamy haven
#

not two

#

AMD is doing away with crossfire support

magic pebble
#

one

#

if you are thinking about 2 then spend your money on a vega 56, 5700, or 2060

#

all of those will perform better in all situations except synthetic benchmarks and a handful of games

dreamy haven
#

I'm going from 2x 580 8GB in crossfire to a single rx 5700 xt

full veldt
#

Did the crossfire perform well enough?

dreamy haven
#

in some games, but support for it and compatability has been dwindling it seems

dense flicker
#

just dont get two

magic pebble
#

the only game I have seen the fps drop low in is destiny 2

dense flicker
#

crossfire doesnt work in the way you think

dreamy haven
#

some games are not optimized for it, others will just crash or not work at all

magic pebble
#

it will drop into the 40's on really open scenes

full veldt
#

I can either spend $100 on one of them or $140 on two

dreamy haven
#

lol

#

you can find one for 100

full veldt
#

Yes

dense flicker
#

how many times we gotta say it

dreamy haven
#

but two for 140? good luck

dense flicker
#

getting 2 isnt worth it

#

lol

full veldt
#

My friend's dad passed away and he is selling parts from his gaming rig for cheap

#

He had 2 580s

magic pebble
#

save your $40 and get an ssd

full veldt
#

I already have everything except the GPU

#

1 TB HDD and a 500 GB SSD

grand pelican
#

get two 580, sell 1 for a 100

#

easy

remote forge
#

580 is still a solid GPU for 1080p....crossfire doesn't scale very well in gaming performance though

paper magnet
#

does installing new drivers decrease lag spikes

fallen schooner
#

installing new drivers keeps you uptodate.

#

or breaks stuff.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cold radish
#

someone should buy me an upgrade from my gtx 1050

fallen schooner
#

or

#

you should buy it yourself.

rough harness
fallen schooner
#

IKR

#

😛

stiff cloak
#

Can i get over 60 fps on most games playing at 4k on at 2070 Super, or should i save up bit more and get the 2080 Super

scenic carbon
#

I think the 2070 super should be fine

stiff cloak
#

cool thanks

obtuse spindle
stiff cloak
#

oh thanks

#

thats helpful

little slate
#

You're not going to be consistently getting 60+ fps at 4k without turning down other settings with a 2070

#

Hell even 2080 would struggle with max settings

flat kraken
#

anyone know if best buy will sell the 2070 super anytime soon, i got best buy cash to use from a warranty

dense flicker
#

best buys selection of computer components is very limited

#

and the supers are like brand new

#

so u gotta give them some time to get them in stock

#

but nah idk when they will be available

flat kraken
#

i mean best buy just started today online with the new ryzen and rx cards available so id assume it would be soon

shy pike
#

I need someone’s opinion on this, I’m going to buy a new graphics card soon that I’ll be using to play on 1440p.
I’m contemplating on getting either the 2070 super or the 5700XT, I’ve been watching all these reviews and most if not all are saying the 5700XT is a better value if you’re just gonna use it for gaming which I am. That being said I will be buying an AIB model of it but they won’t come out until August. Should I buy a 5700XT or a 2070super? I also want to note that I will be upgrading both my MOBO and cpu in a few months as well to Ryzen 3000 and either X470/570

gritty quartz
#

ok, so a newer mobo will not make that much of a difference compared to one gen before it, unless you need a new function (chipset, newer pcie lanes, new gen of ram.)

#

so really you can wait if you want, the x470 might go down in price infact

#

for 5700xt

#

id say you shouldn't trust amd on their word

#

not for gpus

#

they may be right, but your giving up support for raytracing over a possibity for more frames, which isn't even guaranteed, if anything, id wait till its released and reviewers benchmark it properly.

#

it could simply become another radeon 7

#

which was priced similarly to the rtx 2080, and had the same performance without raytracing, making it a waste of money.

#

amd stated it would blow the rtx 2080 out of the water with their benchmarks

#

which it failed and was basically a joke

foggy juniper
#

the 5700xt reference card is already out, you can look at benchmarks and reviews. Doesn't take into account AIB changes, vram and cooling and whatnot, but gives an idea. Missing ray tracing, but since that's barely used so far, I think the AMD lineup is still more cost effective than the nVidia equivalents

#

I woulda gone Super if AMD hadn't responded with their own cost reductions, also I jsut got a nice new FreeSync monitor so of course that's kinda wasted if I get an nVidia

#

sucks to wait till August though.

gritty quartz
#

still raytracing is wonderful

#

i can vouch for that

#

and alot of big name games are more compatible with nivida

#

mind you, thats a standard rtx 2070, not a super rtx 2070

#

so if the price is similar, go with the rtx

#

if its a massive difference, depends on what you want to spend

topaz hornet
#

@foggy juniper You can use Freesync with NVIDIA

gritty quartz
#

not really

#

freesync only works if you do workarounds

topaz hornet
#

Yes, NVIDIA made their GPUs compatible

gritty quartz
#

and the last one which was patched out, required an amd card

topaz hornet
#

Since January

gritty quartz
#

oh wait, thats right

#

i forgot

#

i was thinking g-sync compatible monitors

topaz hornet
#

Gsync is still better

gritty quartz
#

yeah

topaz hornet
#

But more expensive

gritty quartz
#

considering the super rtx 2070 has the same amount of cuda cores as the 5700xt, the rtx will perform MUCH better

#

there used to be a saying, for every one cuda core, it could only be matched with 2 amd cores

#

now thats long since expired, but still not far off

dense flicker
#

um

#

youre over exaggerating

#

it wont perform MUCH better

gritty quartz
#

oh trust me

#

they do perform much better still

#

cudas are far more efficient

#

also, those cudas are seperate from the other cores for the raytracing and prerended images from nivida

#

so, if you want to play on certain heavily nivida optimized games, rtx is a way to go

#

like, i can play ff15 in 4k at 60fps almost with rtx 2080

#

but if i tried todo the same with a superclocked radeon 7 or anything amd made really, not a chance because they cant run preprocessed stuff

#

which really helps running raytracing in battlefield 5 and looks wonderful on certain maps

#

now, amd does do one thing better usually

#

mining bitcoins

#

they used to be heavily used to mine bitcoins before the gtx 1080ti

#

i think the best example was the rx 480s

vestal sparrow
#

Anyone know a good way to benchmark your gpu?

dense flicker
#

Uniengine

lone pond
#

@vestal sparrow Yeah what Zlack said or 3dmark which has some free demo's.

feral axle
#

Amds use gcn which lacks fine wine but it now allows it to be more competitive to in gaming performance so it now is close to cuda in some cases but it no longer does batches like Vega does

neon leaf
#

I use nVidia based on the fact I can get a good 10 years of use out of the video card before driver support is dropped. My last AMD Based lap top only lasted 4 years due to AMD dropping support for the HD4650

lone pond
#

I have an older Radeon thats dual fanned and says XFX in a lot of places. What is it called (Its currently strapped into a pc)

fallen schooner
#

if its in your current build

#

download GPU-Z

#

or speccy

#

or cpu-z

lone pond
#

its not

fallen schooner
#

could be many of things.

lone pond
obtuse spindle
#

probably a 370

#

like that?

lone pond
#

470

obtuse spindle
#

neat

fallen schooner
#

nice card.

#

always liked the XFXs

lone pond
#

its red as well tho

obtuse spindle
#

XFX is my choice for AMD cards

lone pond
#

it has an extra power source thing does it need that

obtuse spindle
#

yes

#

it won't work without it

lone pond
#

ok

obtuse spindle
jagged tapir
#

But I really want an Asus 2080

topaz hornet
#

Well, if it's much cheaper then get it

#

I'd rather save money than get a specific brand

jagged tapir
#

Im think I'm gonna wait until the 2080 supers come out

dense flicker
#

...

jagged tapir
lone pond
#

"the 2080 Super comes out on July 23rd." Just a little more waiting...

teal bluff
#

I still feel the 2070 super has gotta be the best bang for the buck right?

lone pond
#

"the 2080 Super comes out on July 23rd." Just a little more waiting... @jagged tapir

#

@teal bluff If you only want nvidia and that's their best card you can afford, then yeah.

jagged tapir
#

I'm hoping for deals on the regular 2080 or decent prices on 2080 super

ruby horizon
#

BOYS.

#

I need assistance.

#

What’s the best budget graphics card.

#

My friends looking for one.

#

Like budget is like for him.

#

200 dollars.

#

@lone pond Help me sir.

lone pond
#

hold on

#

That's about the best performance you can get for a $200 budget.

ruby horizon
#

Thanks bud.

lone pond
#

No problem. 🙂

north escarp
#

is there a need for the overclocking on the 2080 TI? Im going to be doing VR and 4k and if I dont need overclocking for it then dont want to spend 2x the money

cold stream
#

why do you need to spend money to overclock it

north escarp
#

thats why Im asking if I need it -.- if the overclocking feature is something I need or not

lone pond
#

Overclocking programs are free like "EVGA Precision" or "MSI Afterburner". I doubt you'll need to do overclocking for years to come using VR and that video card. @north escarp

obtuse spindle
#

both programs are useful for looking at performance statistics though

north escarp
#

Alright cool because honestly if I can save myself 3-400 on that graphics card Ill be happy

grand tinsel
#

can someone help me

obtuse spindle
#

what's going on?

grand tinsel
#

i need to find out if a 1070ri founders edition would fit in my case

#

1070ti*

obtuse spindle
#

what case do you have?

grand tinsel
obtuse spindle
#

yes it will fit

#

there's more than enough room in that case

grand tinsel
#

That's the case and motherboard i'm using

#

plus the both the sata ports are in use

obtuse spindle
#

well, they're 90 degree sata ports, so they won't be blocked

grand tinsel
#

you sure

#

the card is like 10inchs

obtuse spindle
#

yes

grand tinsel
#

ok im ordering it rn

north escarp
#

Does the 2060 perform just as well as the 2080?

tired stump
oblique cypress
#

why are you comparing those two

#

what?

#

oh.

#

i see.

north escarp
#

will I still be able to 4k game and VR with the 2060?

lone pond
#

@north escarp Not very well at 4K.

north escarp
#

What’s a good GPU that can do 4K and VR for relatively cheap?

obtuse spindle
#

what do you mean by cheap?

#

because you're going to want a 1080 or 2080 or higher

dense flicker
#

titan rtx 🤠

north escarp
#

So if I want to do 4K I need the 2080?

timid ridge
#

nonono

#

you dont

obtuse spindle
#

to play games above 60FPS consistently at 4k? 1080, 1080Ti, 2080 or 2080Ti

north escarp
#

Will I even need the TI? I’ll be mostly playing FPS like Apex, COD, etc and WoW

obtuse spindle
#

either 80 series does great at 4K

#

you don't need the Ti

north escarp
#

What WOULD I need the TI for?

#

Cuz my set up is the Ryzen 7 2700x and will be the 2080 and just wondering what my FPS will look like at 4K and stuff

obtuse spindle
#

4k high refresh rate

timid ridge
#

BRUH my dad gets 100+ fps with a fx 8370 and crossfire rtx 480's

obtuse spindle
#

crossfire

#

gross

#

hello game incompatibility

timid ridge
#

dude

#

doom 2016 160+ fps max graphic settings

obtuse spindle
#

that's what you can expect at 4K from a 2700X and 2080

#

also getting high framerates in one of the best optimized games on the market doesn't mean you'll get that in every single other game

#

heck, i get 100+ consistently on my i7-3770 and 1060 maxed out in DOOM 2016

timid ridge
#

cant afford newer systems like that

#

im running with a rtx 480 and fx 8300

#

it works perfectly fine.

obtuse spindle
#

oh sure, my 3770 is from 2012

north escarp
#

Are those numbers good? If I’m spending like 700 on a GPU at least want some good numbers

obtuse spindle
#

it's above 60FPS all the time, yeah

#

but you've gotta figure that 4K is incredibly hard to run

timid ridge
#

agreed

north escarp
#

Well I’ve seen some builds run 4K with over 100 FPS

obtuse spindle
#

there's a good visualization of why

timid ridge
#

yep

north escarp
#

That picture isn’t loading

timid ridge
#

max is1080

obtuse spindle
#

it's a few million more pixels than 1080p

north escarp
#

Also do I need a 4K monitor to run 4K? I know probably a stupid question

lone pond
#

hmm 1440p is missing from that picture

#

you'd think they would have put that in

obtuse spindle
#

i think it's before 1440p was mainstream as it is

north escarp
#

Also will 16gb of RAM suffice till I can get more down the line?

obtuse spindle
#

yeah

#

16GB is good enough for a gaming rig these days

north escarp
#

I eventually want to put 64gb in but need to save money where I can till I can max it out

little slate
#

Just keep in mind that you would probably have to change your ram competely rather than just adding a couple sticks

#

Companies keep the same part number, but then keep making new versions

humble quest
oblique cypress
#

they already sold them

#

like since launch

humble quest
#

never even seen a listing on their site

lone pond
#

@humble quest Nice, hope it works well for you.

obtuse spindle
oblique cypress
#

you shoulda searched it up then.

obtuse spindle
#

okay i'm done

humble quest
#

those arent the 50th anniversary editions

oblique cypress
#

what you said meant the regular ones

#

you didnt specifically say

silver ermine
#

^ it's in his screenshot order that it's anniversary

oblique cypress
#

"50th anniversary", we saw 5700xt, so every human assumed it was a 5700xt.

#

still, most people would asUUME y'kn0w?

humble quest
#

the receipt says 50th anniversary, my comment said "newegg doesnt sell them, yet?" not sure how much more i should have added

silver ermine
#

I understood what you meant.

obtuse spindle
#

i'm pedantic af

oblique cypress
#

eh, most people still assume, just thought you had extra money to burn

obtuse spindle
#

so i need like exactly what you're asking for

oblique cypress
#

lol

obtuse spindle
#

i thrive on specificity

oblique cypress
#

for me, if you arent clear, or if it's general enough to assume something or that you would go for the general things that most people would do or buy, im gonna assume that

silver ermine
#

I don't assume, I saw what he said, and looked at screenshot to be sure for what I thought.

oblique cypress
#

good for you

humble quest
#

amazon doesnt have them either, no idea if they're going to be an amd direct exclusive or if its just delayed or i have no idea

obtuse spindle
#

yeah, i don't think anyone except those over the e-tailers really knows yet

silver ermine
#

I think it's an amd exclusive potentially as a few of the other anniversary things were.

#

Or at least a timed exclusive, Based on current availability.

oblique cypress
#

for sure

#

prob gonna be a later thing

#

"oh whats this, you want a gold plated version of the same exact card, OH, you want to buy it at either amazon or newegg because you dont own a credit card right now? well too bad, wait a M0NTh W1LL YU"

#

-local amd executive/spy

humble quest
#

one of the reasons i got the anniversary edition card is because the gold will be very similar in color to the brass/copper parts i'm going to be using in my liquid cooling loop

silver ermine
#

Sounds cool. I just shoot for black. And a dash of RGB.

tired stump
#

My card*

cold stream
#

You really probably don't need 64gb of ram, just saying

#

unless you are a server

oblique cypress
#

lol

solemn cedar
#

Yeah

#

dont waste money on 64gb of ram

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you only need 32gb to run those many tabs of google chrome incognito tabs 😉

ruby horizon
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@lone pond Now someone is asking me what’s the best GPU for a budget of 150..

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You know anything?

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Sorry he’s like kinda poor.

grave peak
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rx 570

ruby horizon
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How much is that?

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Isn’t it like.

grave peak
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yeah

ruby horizon
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Ah.

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Why did you put the emoji tho?

grave peak
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well an 8gb model is more than that

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lemme check newegg

ruby horizon
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He just wants anything below 150.

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Or 150 exact.

obtuse spindle
grave peak
obtuse spindle
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^that's a better option - it saves you money for the same thing

grave peak
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this is also 150 after rebate

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and it has 8gb instead of 4

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I'm planning to get a 1660 aoon

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soon

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should I get the xc dual fan model from EVGA or the windfprce from gigabyte

obtuse spindle
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whichever's cheaper at the time

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they're both great cards

grave peak
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they're h same price

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they're he same price right now

granite juniper
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I’d say evga if they are same price because of the rma and support is amazing from them

shy pike
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Should I get the $400 2070 strix thats on sale right now, or get the $500 2070 super from MSI?

dense flicker
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2070 super for better performance

ruby horizon
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Alright thanks.

light vortex
dreamy haven
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nice

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til I saw the XFX, I thought it might have been a BFG card haha

obtuse spindle
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that really looks like a BFG card i had once

magic pebble
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BFG was a really good compnay. I had a 6800gt from them and when it died like 5 years later they sent me a 9600gt as a replacement. The lifetime warranty was great and hassle free.

fleet forge
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what us the best graphice card under 1600 for gaming and 4k video rendering/editing

obtuse spindle
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okay, is $1600 for the whole build or just the graphics card?

fleet forge
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and i need water block compatibility preferably but not essentially

obtuse spindle
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then you'd want a 2080Ti founders edition

fleet forge
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ok any other cards btw or is it good for renderings it takes like 3 days to render a video i have a mac

obtuse spindle
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the 2080Ti is the most powerful consumer grade GPU out there

fleet forge
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ok got it

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thx

obtuse spindle
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you could get an RTX Titan

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but that's about $2500

fleet forge
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how much is it

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oh

obtuse spindle
fleet forge
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thats lalmost my whole budget

obtuse spindle
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yeah, just got for a 2080Ti

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CUDA cores are you friends when rendering

fleet forge
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also whats a good water block for it

obtuse spindle
fleet forge
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ok thats all thx

obtuse spindle
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for sure, man

fleet forge
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one mosre thing sorry but whats cases are good for liquid cooling that dont collect dust like the core p5

obtuse spindle
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sure, 1 sec