it's lame trying to buy second hand up here in alaska bc people think they can sell gtx 960s for like $120 lol
#graphics-cards
lone pond
fallen schooner
65 bucks on ebay
dense flicker
i mean alaska is pretty north
fallen schooner
*remote
dense flicker
yep
fallen schooner
unless he in the city
granite juniper
@lone pond mine can run vanilla Minecraft at ~40 fps
Can wait til i get the rest of my build
vestal sparrow
what do you guys think
what graphics card should I get with my 8700k
i was thinking vega 56
harsh tundra
vega 56 is a good choice
vestal sparrow
Any others you would suggest?
wraith pasture
2080Ti
wraith pasture
2070 will work, I'd wait for them to release SUPER cards to see if the vanilla cards drop in price
granite juniper
^
lone pond
so my friend is looking at building a PC
he'll probably be getting the ryzen 5 3600 for his CPU
so would an RTX 2060 Super be a good GPU to pair it with
wraith pasture
What kind of gaming is he planning to do, that cpu (if all the performance graphs are correct) will run any modern gpu fine.
2060 is still more of a 1080p gpu
lone pond
he's most likely doing 1080p gaming
he says he wants to use it for internet browsing and heavy gaming
he'll also be doing lots of rendering
he's doing music creation
wraith pasture
Rendering and heavy gaming would be more comfortable on a 2070
lone pond
super or vanilla
wraith pasture
Vanilla
wraith pasture
They said the 3600 is better than the 2700 so yes
lone pond
aight
granite juniper
:l rtx 2060 is a 1080p card not like it’s the 8th most powerful card or anything
worldly swallow
novel scaffold
I'd say... Don't buy new hardware until Stuff Like Navi and all that is released.
@lone pond Try an Rx 570 if you have the card clearance for it. They go for around $130 and you get the Division 2 Gold Edition as well as World War Z.
It's also more powerful than a 960.
lone pond
@novel scaffold thanks for the heads up man. i'm actually banking on getting on
lone pond
Has anyone looked on neweggs website lately and see the Corn AMD gpus?
that chinese oem company has rx 580s for like, $130 on newegg
novel scaffold
Meh. Better deal for a couple of games.
lone pond
yeah that's true.
novel scaffold
If you get a Sapphire Version, I know their cards are nice.
My 4Gb Rx 580 Vram clocks to a full 2250 Mhz.
lone pond
sorry, im new to discord and have yet to really undersand how it all works lmao
novel scaffold
Yeah, it can be wierd...
junior bough
Would it be more in my interest to get a single vega 56 or dual rx 580s?
granite juniper
Single Vega
worldly crow
navi hit in less than 2 weeks lol
with pcie4
im holding out for the 5900 series
rumor is 16gb ram ddr6 faster than 2080 for 600 bucks hopefully its true
lone pond
lel should i pair my friend's 3600 with an x570 or x470 mobo
i'm assuming that pcie gen 4 SSDs are gonna be pretty expensive
little slate
I feel like no matter if you like amd or not, we're all hoping they finally offer some strong competition against nvidia so we could stop having to deal with their outrageous pricing.
Basically what amd has been doing to Intel the past couple of years, we need that kind of scenario with gpus
bright geyser
novel scaffold
I'm going to keep reiterating this... I wouldn't buy new hardware any time soon, things like Navi and 3000 Series will make hardware step up, advancements and all that are coming along.
fallen schooner
as true as it is, some people just can't wait 😄
granite juniper
the navi cards dont look super good tho, if you're buying lower end parts, it doesnt affect you a lot
dreamy haven
hisses at the reference blower design release cards
granite juniper
:v
feral axle
Reference blowers can be pretty if done well
dreamy haven
aesthetics are not my concern
cooling ability and efficiency is
and the fact is, most just do not cool as well
I would only buy a blower card for a mini-ITX system
leaden thunder
pc master race
carmine plinth
is there any more info about when the rtx super are coming out
oblique cypress
not rn
frank fox
im looking at rx570 line up for purchase
how much performance difference is there between thr 4gb and 8gb model?
granite juniper
Not much difference https://youtu.be/GHac6zLit1g
If you’re looking at the 8gb get the rx 580
frank fox
I am looking for a “budget” build so guess i will go for thr 4gb. ty for the info
weary kayak
more ram go ham dont @ me
frank fox
what is a good brand for rx gpu?
weary kayak
I also have a question, how important is vram in gpus?
lone pond
i mean
fallen schooner
:)
lone pond
also
depends on the game and vram required duh lmao
also box i know that was satirical but nah fam
granite juniper
4gb is good for 1080p, 6-8 is good for 1440p, 8-12 is good for 4k
little slate
Right now is really not a good time to buy budget gpu, new cards are coming out next month
grave yew
do you think the Rx 5700 would be more worth buying or a 2070
granite juniper
I’d say wait until more rx 5700 specs/benchmarks come out
grave yew
i was thinking of getting a 3800X also but should i wait a few weeks for those benchmarks?
after release
granite juniper
yeah the zen2 stuff looks really promising
wait until they drop and see benchmarks
violet kite
I'd wait to see what the benchmarks or like and what the drivers/support are like for the new RX 5700.
I don't drop that kind of money on something that may or may not have a good basis.
frank fox
It's my first time trying to build one so I am looking at making it somewhat "budget" compared to newest stuff.
Probably waiting for black friday at least for sales.
topaz hornet
@frank fox Black Friday isn’t really that good for PC sales, you should check out r/buildapcsales to find some good deals
granite juniper
^
velvet drum
eternal dome
I am going to get an rtx 2060 and i am curious if i should get the asus dual or turbo. My case is the node 202 as well.
And if I should go open box or new
violet kite
Open Box is sometimes JUST an open box. If it says nothing was missing, open box is a great way to get a discount. I buy tons of open box stuff. It's a bit different from used.
eternal dome
Ok, open box it is. But turbo or dual
violet kite
I'm gonna check the performance and I'll let you know.
eternal dome
Ok, thx
violet kite
Okay.
So.
The Dual has a better fan setup and will cool better, it probably also has a higher base clock than the Turbo.
Blower fans like the one on the turbo are usually lower quality and don't cool evenly.
The dual is just gonna last you longer and can game harder.
eternal dome
Ok, it should be fine in my node 202. the dual is also cheaper
violet kite
Yup, the Turbo is more aesthetic and can work better in builds with more restrictive airflow.
restive jewel
what card are you looking at>?
violet kite
But if your case is large enough to accommodate, it's much better.
He's looking at an RTX 2060 @restive jewel
eternal dome
I dont know how big of a difference with blower will be compared to the dual
restive jewel
ah ok.
eternal dome
ok, wait a second, 25% is $90 off on the dual???!!!
restive jewel
honestly i dont know a whole bunch about computers and parts. because i recently went from xbox to pc so im kinda newish to pc.
violet kite
I mean, blower fans are just overall worse. Plus the 'turbo' clock on the dual is much better, so it'll just perform better under stress.
It's not much, but the longer lifespan and the better 'turbo' clock on the dual will mean a smoother experience and getting heat out of your PC quicker.
eternal dome
ok, the new dual seems pretty sweet deal
eternal dome
The dual has the promo and get the new wolfenstien
restive jewel
could you link it?
eternal dome
yeah, hold on
restive jewel
alright, thank you
restive jewel
yeah, doesn't seem bad lol
restive jewel
honestly the one i have isnt the greatest but it works for games but idk whats the max card i cant get because i dont know to much
can*
eternal dome
Should i get a 3 year warranty for $48
restive jewel
well if your planning on staying with that card for a while, i would think so
eternal dome
idk though, my original budget was for a 1660ti
restive jewel
Yeah looks pretty decent
eternal dome
Accualy, should i get the msi ventus 2060
restive jewel
I guesa depends on what your willing to spend lol. That's like in between the two
eternal dome
ima look how well the ventus is in cooling
restive jewel
Alright.
eternal dome
oh boy, the ventus isnt very cool
Ok, nvm. 1660ti it is. i dont have a 500w psu
450w for me
lone pond
what PSU do you have?
eternal dome
450w
lone pond
yeah but which model?
eternal dome
the integra that comes with the node 202
lone pond
yeah that looks to be a rather straight-forward small FSP unit
eternal dome
yeah, and im going to overclock the card
lone pond
you planning on getting the ventus 1660?
eternal dome
the ventus 1660ti
lone pond
this looks better for $15 more https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7KcCJ/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-6-gb-gaming-video-card-gtx-1660-ti-gaming-6g
eternal dome
oh yeah
uncut spear
So my rx 580 is getting too hot what is a good upgrade for 1440p but not overkill
wraith pasture
2070
lyric plume
triple 2080 ti's
novel scaffold
@uncut spear How hot is "too hot"?
If it's getting too hot, you can use compressed air to dust out the computer, and aim into the Gpu.
uncut spear
85 to 90 c
novel scaffold
If it's out of Manufacturer warranty, you can replace the thermal paste.
uncut spear
It's a new case all components are just upgraded except psu and ssd
novel scaffold
Or, check the rest of your computer temp.
Hm...
How many fans does your computer have?
And does it have a suicide panel?
uncut spear
4 + CPU and psu and 2 on graphics card
But I tried a diff game last night, world of warcraft and it didnt heat up bad ,only 50-60c ,satisfactory experimental edition is when it got hot
novel scaffold
50-60 is a perfect range for loads.
It could be just the game.
Do you have the current Adrenaline drivers?
19.6.2
obtuse spindle
some games do cause components to run hotter than they normally would
uncut spear
Yes,it was maxing it out at 1440p so I'm guessing it just was too much for it
obtuse spindle
that makes sense
uncut spear
There is a place I found locally to rent to own GPU and as ur paying on it they cover anything that ever happens under a separate warrantee and I'll pay 70 a month for a super nice card for that
novel scaffold
I'd wait on getting new hardware, Navi is suspected to have more cards.
And RTX Super will start to exist soon enough.
uncut spear
I thing if I went with gtx 2080 or radeon 7 I wouldn't ever have issues with 1440p
Think*
Is there a big difference in 2080ti vs 2080 because they are very different in price?
And would u guys go with 2080 or radeon 7 ,benchmarks are close
lone pond
Ray-tracing is a farce. I would wait for Navi benchmarks or get a 1600 series NVidia to save the $$ for 1440 gaming
granite juniper
^
quartz gull
Or get a used (or heavily discounted, a lot of sellers are discounting last gen graphics cards) 1070-1070ti laptop for 1440P gaming
lone pond
hello im kinda new to the gaming pc world how would i know witch graphics card is compatibal with my system ?
would anyone be able to help with that
wraith pasture
Sure, what's your current set up (especially your motherboard) and what resolution and framerates are you aiming for
lone pond
Biostar a960d+v3 motherbored amd Fx 8300 8-core graphics card and Radeon XR 460 8gb ddr3 8gb ram
I get solid 60 FPS on most games looking for a little bit more I get some frame drops in the middles of some games
plucky solstice
so are you looking to upgrade?
lone pond
you could try overclocking the GPU
wraith pasture
That cpu is bottlenecking you hard
fallen schooner
they are new to PC world
wraith pasture
Especially in modern games
fallen schooner
I wouldn't suggest them to OC anything
strange ginkgo
just download more vram
lone pond
overclocking the GPU is a rather simple procedure though
strange ginkgo
dont stab me for speaking truth
lone pond
Lol
plucky solstice
ghost ima pm you and make this easy
lone pond
pretty sure the people here could help you out on OC'ing the GPU
quartz gull
https://downloadmoreram.com/download.html
Here's how you can. Download more like @strange ginkgo suggested!
lone pond
I knew something was holding me back just didn’t know witch part was thinking the card
the card is not all that strong but neither is the CPU
at that point, it seems like just sticking with what you have or overhauling it all together make the most sense
quartz gull
Especially because ddr3 boards are starting to show their age
lone pond
i wouldn't recommend clocking the CPU up with that board since it looks to be on the weak side, yeah
static haven
I have a question. An 8+8 pin PCIe GPU cable are two separate 8 pins or just 2x 8pin that is merged in between.
?
I have an ROG Strix 2080 and im planning to buy a custom cable at cablemod but the 8+8 pin doesnt offer a "Pro comb" option but the single 8 pin does.
violet kite
@lone pond
This is really the only deal around that price range?
AMD doesn't really compete.
The 1660 is a solid budget GPU that's powerful.
The only way you can get something a little better in that pricerange is if you go 1660 TI for 270.
noble mortar
I'd argue that the RTX 580 is a viable competitor.
violet kite
Runs hotter, lower life span, bad driver support.
But if you want true budget.
You can go cheaper with an RX 580 or 590.
noble mortar
Really it's preference though. I use Nvidia cards, Amd CPU's
violet kite
For similar performance as long as you aren't playing OpenGL games.
lone pond
Is the GTX 1660 better then this?
violet kite
The 1660 is better than the RX 580.
For a lot of reasons.
It isn't just preference, but depends on if you want quality over aesthetic.
noble mortar
I suppose so. You were speaking of Price point.
violet kite
AMD is notoriously hot, runs at higher wattage, and has driver support problems.
But if price is the only issue.
noble mortar
So I just listed a competitor price point.
violet kite
AMD is the way to go.
Oh yeah, no I get you.
The RX 590 is the 1660s direct competitor though.
noble mortar
Yeah. And I believe the 1660's a bit newer.
oblique cypress
if not very similar
noble mortar
Probably has nicer drivers.
violet kite
noble mortar
But almost the same.
lone pond
I don’t know anything about GPU lol
oblique cypress
they close af
noble mortar
V v close.
violet kite
I mean, I'd go with nVidia unless you're an ethusiast.
AMD just has a lot of issues with their GPUs and put all their effort into CPUs.
noble mortar
I go with bang for buck. For CPU. My GPU I don't pinch pennies on.
lone pond
I’m just tryna get something around 200 and 220
violet kite
When you're GPU will perform 15% better if you undervolt it, you know you've messed up somewhere.
obtuse spindle
if you're looking at GPUs, wait till July 7th
obtuse spindle
yeah
violet kite
And again, driver support.
And yeah, wait till July 7th unless you're really hurting for a GPU.
If AMD slam dunks this and releases a good GPU.
Heh.
It'll be great.
lone pond
What’s coming on the 7th?
violet kite
AMDs new CPU and GPU line.
obtuse spindle
yeah
noble mortar
I just got an unopened MSI 1080TI Trio for 510 on Ebay. I got lucky though.
obtuse spindle
the Ryzen 3000 series and Navi GPU line
noble mortar
Im deff buying a Ryzen 3600 for 200$ LOL almost at par with Intel 9900k
violet kite
Supposedly AMD nabbed some Nvidia programmers.
Which means we might get better drivers for their GPUs.
Which means they'll actually compete.
On that note, I hear tell intel is gonna also branch off into GPU development at some point in the future.
obtuse spindle
i'mma wait for independent reviews and benchmarks before plopping money down
violet kite
Which sounds cool.
OH yea, no, I'm waiting.
Give it a few weeks.
Then go all in and buy something.
noble mortar
Idk. I feel like my Unopened 1080TI for 510 was a steal.
obtuse spindle
it is
violet kite
Oh, it is.
The 1080 TI is still a king of his class.
And that trio has good OCing potential.
Good buy.
noble mortar
I don't think anything /That/ bad ass is going to come out to make it irrelevant for a few years.
violet kite
Nope, you've got a good few years before it even begins to falter at even the highest settings.
Maybe if VR becomes a staple.
noble mortar
Not until full dive becomes a thing.
I don't to touch it.
VR is annoying and clunky at this state.
VR to me is literal VIRTUAL WORLDS.
Not a screen I strap to my face
violet kite
But it's just semantics. It's a really cool bit of tech and when it becomes less clunky and heavy, I'll use it.
noble mortar
Not to be a weeb but when I think VR I think of that one anime.
Got lost in a virtual world or something.
Idk.
I dont watch japanese cartoons often.
I just know it was super popular.
violet kite
I know what you're talking about.
noble mortar
But yeah. I'm looking for a full sensory experience.
violet kite
I don't like anime personally, but it's everywhere.
deft dragon
I’ve seen it
noble mortar
Tbh. I find more and more people fanning over Japanese stuff these days lol.
deft dragon
I watch the popular ones cause it getting boring now
deft dragon
It’s better than most of the cartoon we have now
deft dragon
I quit watching tv
noble mortar
Highly recommend it for any MMO gamers out there lurking in Graphics card chat.
deft dragon
It looks pretty cool
noble mortar
Definitely is.
woeful skiff
will the difference between a rx570 and rx580 be greatly noticeable for light gaming and 3d rendering?
lone pond
light gaming, prolly not. 3D rendering could benefit more
woeful skiff
what about 4gb vs 8gb?
woeful skiff
ah ok thanks
cerulean forge
Ok, I know a lot about processors, ram, motherboards,etc. but Im planning to make a cheaper build for a gaming pc and I would like to know if the rx580 a good card for playing games at high sets while still getting a solid 60 - 90 fps?
dense flicker
@cerulean forge that is a good card
cerulean forge
Thanks!
uncut spear
soooo about to buy a 2080ti what is the best brand to go with i was looking at the msi duke or asus strix
wraith pasture
asus strix or evga @uncut spear
random venture
im looking for a card for under 200 i prefer geforce
random venture
ok dose it need a 4 pin power
foggy comet
no
random venture
ok
foggy comet
power comes from motherboard
random venture
ok i will check it out
faint harness
Is this a good gpu worth the money?
oblique cypress
yeah
under no circumstance should you ever buy a 1050 ti
sploosh dont misdirect the poor guy lol
the rx cards are a great value
obtuse spindle
yeah, i wouldn't go for a 1050Ti even in a cheap laptop these days
foggy comet
boiiii
im not trying to misdirect
i like my 1050
it works just fine for games
but
yes
dense flicker
my 1050ti sucks
foggy comet
what cpu do u have
dense flicker
i7 7700hq
dense flicker
its not bottlenecking
dense flicker
my demands are just higher than what the card can offer
foggy comet
WHat games do u play that needs that kind of stuff
dense flicker
radeon cars are a better value
foggy comet
yeah
but my friend has a i5 and a radeon 580 and his fps is super low
on fortnite
and minecraft
with shaders
feral axle
What generation of i5?
dense flicker
ehhhhhh i gotta run fortnite at high settings to achieve 75fps
foggy comet
I dont know
dense flicker
make sure your friend is using the gpu and not the integrated graphics
foggy comet
yeah
feral axle
If it’s like a 2500 ye it probably will bottleneck
foggy comet
Integrated graphics is like bad
dense flicker
ofc
dense flicker
im saying your friend shouldn't be getting those frames
feral axle
Ice lakes I gpu looks really good
foggy comet
i dont know what he does to his pc but it doesnt like it
feral axle
Does he use mayonnaise as thermal paste?
idle hatch
What's up boys
oblique cypress
edit it
violet kite
1660 will get you better frames for the same price as a RX 590. 😛
Also runs cooler with less power requirements.
forest hollow
I just got the 1660 TI love it runs amazing
violet kite
lone pond
i'd take the MSI gaming with the twin frozr over that tho
violet kite
You mean the one with Ventus?
lone pond
yeah it does look to be a good card
violet kite
@faint harness If you don't wanna wait for the new GPUs, get this. 😛
(It's 214.99 with all the rebates and price cuts.)
I honestly can't recommend any AMD cards, it's kinda sad.
They just perform less efficiently in just about everyway.
They're just prettier, I guess.
lone pond
actually the driver set on AMD improved so much over the years. you'll be surprised if you use a modern high end AMD GPU with the adrenalin driver set, you can do A LOT of stuff from the driver suite
oblique cypress
guess we wait for rx5000 series
lone pond
nvidia still has that antic interface
violet kite
And yet, OpenGL performs half as well on their cards, they run at higher wattage, and they get much hotter. :^)
lone pond
openGL is eh. most games are DX
violet kite
Not saying you shouldn't support the companies you like.
If you're only playing AAA games, go AMD if you want less framerates.
lone pond
i'm fine both ways, brand fanboyism is silly tbh. i have components from both brands
"less" compared to what? it all comes down on which specific parts are being compared
violet kite
AMD GPUs would be fine if they knew how to handle wattage in their designs, undervolting their GPUs makes them run better.
Less compared to the similarly priced alternatives.
violet kite
The Radeon VII has no justification for it's price.
lone pond
there was a time vega 56 was a better alternative than the 1070. vise-versa, also a time nvidia cards didn't support freesync
i'm not on that card.
violet kite
It's a massive hunk of hot overpriced metal. They basically just upped the wattage on a Vega 64, slammed it with wattage and tried to make it compete.
I think it's the alternative to the 2080 ti?
With none of the features.
Same price as well.
lone pond
that's technically not true but.. visually could be 🙂
violet kite
I'm not being a fanboy, I want AMD to succeed and I'm hoping they'll finally offer real competition to nVidia with this new chipset.
But right now?
granite juniper
Where are you finding radeon 7’s for 2080 ti prices?
violet kite
They can't compete pound for pound.
lone pond
yes prices are high
granite juniper
It’s around the 2080 price
lone pond
RX cards used to make much more sense with zen 2 a year ago, for mid range.
granite juniper
it’s not 1k, but I haven’t checked
lone pond
and yeah 2080 makes more sense or else i would of bought the VII anyway..
granite juniper
Yeah it’s around 700
violet kite
Lemme just say right now, if AMD offers any competition to Nvidia and doesn't just run at higher power drain with little to no features, I'll be the first to buy a new AMD card to upgrade.
But right now...they don't compete, unless we're talking aesthetics. Nvidia has just been around too long, their drivers and support are far too solid.
lone pond
they DID offer freesync, you had literally couple 100's of monitors but nvidia had to get into that tech
and no, drivers are really improved. you should look into the AMD driver set before you make such assumptions
it's almost perfect, freesync is picked up automatically, it's got overclocking inside (Wattman) all that jazz
violet kite
They still do not offer the same level of support and response that Nvidia does.
lone pond
game-wise yes but there are some games AMD cards perform better at as well..
violet kite
It's not fanboying, it's not brand loyalty, it's facts. Nvidia is superior to AMD. Almost across the bored, any benchmarks you look at in terms of AMD competition.
oblique cypress
aight aight, no need to almost borderline argue
violet kite
Now let's let the new chipset end the arguement and lemme buy a hot AMD Sapphire card.
CAuse those things are gorgeous.
oblique cypress
amd has been improving in recent years, got new stuff launching for people to buy soon, nvidia is still really popular with many
violet kite
Also AMD processors are amazing.
lone pond
well you are when you say "it's everything better", which is untrue because some things ARE better on AMD end, such as the layout of the adrenalin.
oblique cypress
both advantages and disadvantages on both ends
we'll just wait and see what the rx5000 series brings in terms of competition with the rtx series cards
violet kite
Yup.
lone pond
the vanilla 5700 seems fine but the XT is too expensive IMO
violet kite
AMD competes in the processor realm very well, you have a good amount of choice and there are reasons to chose one over the other.
AMD has amazing multi-core efficiency, and are getting more and more powerful as time goes on. They've done really well for themselves.
lone pond
the threadrippers are basically like two ryzens stuck together though
but those are being improved as well
violet kite
And they are AMAZING for workstations.
They are godly for workstations.
Especially compared to the similarly powered intel alternatives.
Which are overpriced as hecc
violet kite
Intel has raw power and good single core efficiency tho.
lone pond
yup
oblique cypress
basically.
lone pond
the 1950X is 6650 points and i'm at 6150 with my 7900X on cinebench, that's kinda weaksauce for me. then again, i don't need that many cores and i spend big money on my PC
wraith pasture
lone pond
it's not worth it anymore, it's the older chip. there is basin falls AND the refresh of that OTW 😉
violet kite
I'm just gonna back down. Raw number talk, AMD is better in processors, worse in GPUs.
Subjectively, if we're talking about things that please you or make you happy, the opposite is true.
lone pond
depends on what you need it for, some high performance computing need AVX-512 which AMDs kinda suck at
violet kite
They are getting better in terms of GPUs, but they aren't on the same level.
faint harness
When do new GPUs come out
violet kite
The 7th of July
lone pond
like i said, i'm not fanboying any brand i have had multiple 1080 Ti's before my 2080
a 1060, etc. i have a V64 LC but that's pretty much it 🙂
astral stag
Hey guys I have a question.I have a 1060 rn could I pair that with a 2060 and run a dual card
obtuse spindle
no.
one, they're completely different cards from different families
and the 1060 doesn't support multi-GPU setups anyway
fallen schooner
😄
astral stag
Ok thanks man
obtuse spindle
for sure, man. sorry to be the bearer of bad news
astral stag
its all good i will just sell my old one lol
random venture
thank you to who ever said the rx cards are good i was about to buy it
woeful skiff
anyone have any experience with corn amd gpus?
delicate karma
We are expecting a price drop in current RTX series cards once the supers are released next month, right?
lone pond
mhm
violet kite
I'm kind of confused, I already bought both my CPU and GPU at lower prices than what the supposed drops are gonna be, what's with that?
I built my PC last month and bought an RTX 2070 for about 450 bucks, same for the i9-9900k.
Also holy crap.
That's a good price, open box tho.
Same GPU I got.
Maybe mine was an open box?
oblique cypress
well boys, its official
amd is not only superior in multi threaded performance, it is now also superior in single thread performance
they just posted a benchmark a few hours ago
apparently the new 3950x is faster than the 9980xe
violet kite
Let's wait and see what consumer versions get.
Either way.
LET'S GO BOIII
YEYEYE
oblique cypress
amd has come a long way
violet kite
After what intel did to them mid 2000s and what Nvidia tried to do to them.
oblique cypress
if this is what exactly happens when the consumer version come out, idk what'll happen honestly lol
oblique cypress
lol
before when my dad asked me what platform i was using, when i replied amd, he was skeptical
so he's still in the early 2000s lol
violet kite
Oof.
oblique cypress
i mean he was surprised to even see multiple people able to be in one game
we played smash
so i cant be surprised
the old man's living in the 1970s
violet kite
Pfft.
lone pond
lel so i originally wanted to try an AMD build but then my dad said to get intel because they're apparently more reliable as they're more mainstream than AMD
lone pond
i'll be building a completely new AMD system in a few years
i'm currently running a 7700K and an RTX 2060
tbh i shoulda gotten the 8700K when i built my PC last year
rough seal
Probably
lone pond
i only got the 7700K because i saw that the base speed was higher than the 8700K and i didn't think that i would be overclocking
primal kraken
i wouldn't worry about it, seems like there's always a newer, better chip coming out
lone pond
i didn't pay any attention to the boost speed at all tbh
primal kraken
Just built my 9900K a few week ago and now everyone is telling me that i should have waited for AMD
lone pond
honestly you really should've lel
rough seal
AMD CPU’s are gonna be just as expensive
primal kraken
yeah, then someone would tell me to wait for Intel
lone pond
i mean there hasn't been much news on intel 10th gen has there
primal kraken
technology changes so much, it never ends. i'd literally never get to build a ocmputer because people would keep telling me to wait for this part and that part to come out
just wait, there will be soon
lone pond
i'm kinda excited to see intel's response to zen 2
oblique cypress
eh
10nm is about the major news
no mainstream releases or leaks
so isnt much
primal kraken
not sure i'll go with AMD for a while. the FX 8350 made me really upset
Can't believe I used that in my last build
it got so hot
primal kraken
used it for 6 years lol
primal kraken
before that I had an Athlon 64 2800, used that from 2004-2010
it didn't age well but got me through
rough seal
The last CPU I had was an athlon 2 x4 —- can’t remember the rest
primal kraken
looks like 6 years is my average use time
so far lol
The FX system also had a Radeon HD 7950 GPU. it died recently while I was cracking Rc5-72 keys 24/7 for a few weeks
that's what encouraged me to finally upgrade lol
tight spade
Hello everyone i was wondering if you guys would be able to help me with some advice on upgrading my pc, im currently running a gtx660 on a A8-5500apu. if i upgrade my graphics card would it be most wise to buy a used gtx1060 or a rx 580? or should i save up my money and upgrade the cpu and mobo first?
violet kite
Are both GPUs used?
If the RX 580 is new, it would be what I'd go for.
But if they're both used, I'd go for the 1060.
fallen schooner
i'd work on getting a better cpu honestly.
noble mortar
How about you wait a few weeks.
Ryzen 3600 nearly counters 9900 for 2/5ths the price
Look at the released bench Mark's and pricing
lone pond
@tight spade get the rx 580, its slighty faster than a 1060 and has more vram for a cheaper price
2080 or 2080 ti.... hmmm decisions
fallen schooner
wallet depth and usage.
lone pond
Money isnt an issue. I was either gonna get 2 2080s or one 2080 ti
lone pond
XD
lone pond
Ye
fallen schooner
2080ti
dreamy haven
wider mem bus, more vram
feral axle
If the 2080 goes down in price should I upgrade to that from my Vega 56?
lone pond
what monitor do you have? V56 is still not a bad card
jaunty fractal
will the rx vega 56 from ASrock come back down to $270?
jaunty fractal
fair point
newegg did a similar thing with a ram pack that went up $30 and then back down 3 days later
feral axle
I have a ultrawide 1080p but I wanna raytrace for cyberpunk
lone pond
you might be able to partly do it at 2560x1080 with a 2080 Ti
feral axle
I’m just hoping the 2080 goes down to 499
lone pond
i wouldn't get a 2080 to ray trace, i got one and it's not great at it. had to disable it in metro
you could raytrace in BF or quake 2 RTX at 1080p (this is pushing) but what's the point at FHD anyway
such a powerful GPU for a low res
should i have waited to upgrade my 960 to a 2080 super/2080 if the price decreases or was it right to upgrade to a 2060
feral axle
What setting were you running for your 2080?
lone pond
UHD high but QHD didn't happen either, you need to do 1080p which looked like crap on my 32" monitor
feral axle
I’m still debating if I should get a zen 2 cpu or a gpu upgrade
lone pond
what are your current components like?
feral axle
R5 2600, hyper 212 black, b450 wifi, like over 2 tbs of ssd, Vega 56, and 32 gbs of ram
feral axle
I’m thinking about a monitor but I also run a htc vive
lone pond
i'd do monitor unless you consistently play VR, but that's me
feral axle
I’ll see what goes on sale during amazon prime day/ Newegg’s amazon prime day
jaunty fractal
whats that?
oblique cypress
a holiday online
lone pond
i'd just get a 2060
supple lynx
2070 ❤
dreamy haven
prime day (and newegg's equivalent) will be july 15th and 16th
nvidia is announcing the super's on tuesday, as well as the price drops on the existing 2070/2080 cards...AMD is releasing Navi along with Zen2 on July 7th...so there may be other manufacturer generated price drops besides the sales events on the sites
fallen schooner
yep next few weeks is gonna be awesome.
dreamy haven
yeah if you can wait another week or two to buy, you'll be glad you did
I'm aiming for a 2070 or 2070 Super
dreamy haven
depending on actual prices at retailers (after gouging effect, etc)
yeah people are not impressed with nvidia's current pricing, mainly
performance is OK but was not a huge step up, nothing to warrant the price increases to this generation
and I agree to be honest but I got tired of my RX 580 Crossfire setup, wanted to go back to single card
fallen schooner
I just don't underdstand why it has to be so expensive
dreamy haven
I don't want a reference style blower card but I also don't want to wait until August or later for the manu's custom PCBs to hit shelves
so we'll what the 2070s drop to
heh
fallen schooner
they could knock prices down, make it more affordable, and still make billions.
dreamy haven
yeah I know, it's not acceptable in my honest opinion, but they are still selling nonetheless
fallen schooner
yeah it'll sell regardless.
it just sucks
like Aorus.
love the product, won't ever buy it.
dreamy haven
I'm not crazy about gigabyte to begin with, but yeah the aorus line does seem pricey
vestal sparrow
I have found a 1080 that I'm interested in, but it's a blower model
How much does that affect cooling
fallen schooner
blowers are fine
the biggest gripe people have with them is they are loud at full load.
but I never had an issue with mine when I had it.
I honestly prefer blower style, just seem to work better cooling wise.
dreamy haven
I would only want a blower for a mini-itx box, to exhaust the heat out the rear of the case
otherwise, too loud for my tastes
my fans are all noctua, and I use an AiO so my system is fairly quiet...I don't need a jet in my tower when I fire up a game
and the reference design cards that I have had in the past ran pretty hot, relative to a triple fan card (my prefernce)
asus strix are some of my favs but usually pricier, MSI duke and EVGA ftw cards as well
can turn down the fan curve in afterburner, rarely hear the fans, and still never go >65-70C under load
good luck maintaining that temp with a 'quiet' blower card, imo
lol
worldly crow
im waiting for 2070 super its gonna be same price as a 2070 now which is 500
supple lynx
I'm in the suckered crowd
I have a 7700k and a 2070
Both launches which were pretty quickly overshadowed
worldly crow
i currently have a ryzen 7 1700 and gtx 1070 wanna switch to ryzen 7 3700x and rtx 2070 super
worldly crow
but im currently using my 60hz 4k tv to game on saving for a 400-500 dollar 144hz monitor for gaming should be done by august then i gotta get a x570-e strix board then cpu and finally the gpu
should be done by christmas lol
worldly crow
nah im going with 1440 so its a 2560x1440 144hz maybe even 165 if uim lucky and im looking for gsync
supple lynx
Dell sg27 something something something
Dell S2716DG (210-AGUL) Black 27" 1ms HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight Gaming Monitor 350 cd/m2 1,000:1 https://m.newegg.com/product/9SIA6R46RN9281?m_ver=1
It occasionally goes on sale
I've seen it get as low as 350
It's a pretty good one too
I own the 23.8 inch version, and that one is very reasonable in terms of price
worldly crow
the ones im looking at are 400nit 27-32 inch3000/1 CR
does lg make good monitors?
saw some vioteks on there for cheap and they get good reviews also
supple lynx
Lg makes some good panels, but their monitors are a mixed bag imo
worldly crow
most likely get something like this but one that works with gsync https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824160382
not sure if freesync2 works with gsync
supple lynx
Unfortunately, I don't know
worldly crow
will most likely get this will just take me 2 months to get lol https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-rog-swift-pg278qr-27/p/N82E16824236797
swift always has good reviews
and im sure ill get great framerates maybe even increased framerates cause im using a 4k tv which is 50'' so less pixels
supple lynx
Aye
dreamy haven
...
size of your display does not determine the number of pixels...the resolution is a fixed number
the size affects the ppi (pixels per inch) so the larger the size, the lower the ppi and the more likely it becomes to notice jaggies
jade trail
which AMD Vega card was it that someone said often had issues, the 56 or 64?
static haven
Anybody has any issues with your gpu temp being so high
I mean im playing pubg with max settings
It even crashed twice lol
timid ridge
fallen schooner
egpu?
fallen schooner
oooh.
tulip mortar
yea...so im running a gtx 1060
pretty good at this point of time.... just wanna make myself future proof. the system has a dope CPU so no point upgrading the whole thing
vestal sparrow
How does the MSI Aero 1080 fair up against other 1080s?
random venture
is it a fx
random venture
is it a fx 550
vestal sparrow
gtx 1080
random venture
no no no rx
the RX 550 aero performs about the same
in my frospective
prospective
vestal sparrow
huh
fallen schooner
I think you are confused Clinton
random venture
i am now
vestal sparrow
Let me rephrase my question
fallen schooner
He is referring to this
vestal sparrow
yeah
fallen schooner
which is a 1080
random venture
yea
fallen schooner
asking how it compares to other 1080s
vestal sparrow
That's it
random venture
oh
fallen schooner
😃
random venture
i dont see a difference
fallen schooner
compared how Vedster, cooling or performance?
random venture
if you need better cooling get a Kraken G10 and slap a water cooler on it (a Kraken G10 is a bracket that goes on gpus and alows you to have a cpu cooler on a gpu).
silver sage
The RX 580 does pretty well but produces a lot of heat but it really is a lotta bang for your buck
vestal sparrow
Yeah, in my last build I used a rx 580 8gb
silver sage
Yeah I bought the on sale one
For some reason a lot of the gaming community still thinks AMD is shit
random venture
i have a 2080 and just if you dont want your computer to be a space heater just dont overclook
vestal sparrow
I'm a programmer, so I don't really need a gpu, but I'm also 3D modeling, so I decided to get a gpu
vestal sparrow
Cool
random venture
i just got lucky and got a i9 9900k in a giveaway so i was like we i might as well go for it all and got a 2080
silver sage
Nice
random venture
thx
vestal sparrow
I have a 8700k
random venture
i7
silver sage
Actually I was in battlefield 1 and like people hate AMD there I’m like AMD is really on the rise maybe a few minor heat problems but also because I don’t have AC
vestal sparrow
What processer do you have?
silver sage
It’s a AMD ryzon 3300 I think
vestal sparrow
3300?
silver sage
I’d have to look at the box again it’s some weird dumber
random venture
6300\
vestal sparrow
3000 series is coming out next week
silver sage
Let me find a photo brb
vestal sparrow
Yeah might be a 6300
random venture
my stream pc has a i7 8700k
vestal sparrow
gpu?
silver sage
It’s a Ryzen 2200 got it on sale
vestal sparrow
ah
silver sage
So not super powerful
vestal sparrow
its not that bad
vestal sparrow
I don't like the ryzen series simply because of the ok single core speeds
silver sage
Yeah
fallen schooner
so Im looking through the marketplace
silver sage
I was building on a low budget
vestal sparrow
yeah for gaming its fine
random venture
yea my question is y a 6300x 6 cores and windowes only says it has 3
fallen schooner
rEeEEe
silver sage
Oml on the carpet
vestal sparrow
face palm
silver sage
I left all my parts in no static bags
fallen schooner
Im just like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah nooooooooooo
silver sage
And in boxes
fallen schooner
vestal sparrow
AHHH
fallen schooner
no wonder he wants 275 for them.
vestal sparrow
lol
fallen schooner
each.
silver sage
This is a brUh moment
vestal sparrow
i would've done it if it was evga
silver sage
AMD n stuff
vestal sparrow
And the transferable warranties
silver sage
Anyways Fellas nice talk nice to know if I mention AMD I don’t get crucified by intel lovers
vestal sparrow
What card is it
vestal sparrow
How much would you sell it for
silver sage
1 million dollars lmao
vestal sparrow
lol
vestal sparrow
lol
granite juniper
anybody have the asus strix 1070 ti? if you do, what kinda oc can you get on it stable?
jade trail
hm....
do we have any info on pricing, release dates, or benchmarks for the announced AMD things?
wanting to save for a graphics card and leaning towards the RX 590 since it's only about us$215
fallen schooner
yeah
there is info on pricing. and release date is 7/7
Zero benchmarks, other than what they released.
just want the latest keynotes from AMD @jade trail
watch*
jade trail
gotcha gotcha, thanks
fallen schooner
np. I think you'll like the pricing 😃
leaden thunder
does anybody have full measurements for a pci-e slot to case bolt standoff point?
dreamy haven
is nvidia only announcing the supers today, and releasing them on the 9th? or are they hitting shelves today?
saw a bit of conflicting info online lol
granite juniper
they are supposed to tell stuff about them, and release them the 9th
dreamy haven
okies was afraid of that lol
faint harness
Is this deal worth it?
leaden thunder
why though. why call it the rtx super line. they already had the rtx ti line up, its just a jab ad AMD's prospected sales, they probably would have had a different marking campaign if AMD was not releasing a new set of GPU's.
worldly crow
they say regular and supers will be same price wtf. who would buy a 2070 for 500 when u can the super for same price
jagged tapir
Lmfao that's stupid
little slate
did you miss the part of the video where they said original 2070 and 2080 are being discontinued?
also, where's 2080ti super?
worldly crow
watch the video
obtuse spindle
no one knows when the Super 2080 and 2080Ti are coming out
because they're not announced yet
worldly crow
no super 2080ti
worldly crow
all is in the video they said theres a 2060 2070 and 2080 super
obtuse spindle
why
worldly crow
its only place i could find it atm lol
obtuse spindle
...
then you haven't been on the youtube front page
Gamers Nexus, Paul's Hardware and LTT have put their videos out
worldly crow
no not yet this is first im seeing it
jagged tapir
🤔
worldly crow
does it really matter if it comes from facebook?
obtuse spindle
yes, actually
worldly crow
why?
obtuse spindle
a lot of people would prefer to not give facebook any traffic, whatsoever
little slate
just because a specific review video doesn't mention a 2080ti super, doesn't mean that it's not coming, he doesn't say it's not coming in that video, it's just not mentioned at all
worldly crow
the ti is a super thats just a name instead of calling it 2070 tii there calling it super
little slate
dang, well maybe there's still hope for finding a 2080ti cheaper now that the 2080 super would be a much closer competition than before
little slate
if it looks too good to be true, then it's probably a scam of some sort
jagged tapir
Yea fr 459 doesnt seem real lol
jagged tapir
"ATP solutions"
worldly crow
u can get a rtx 2080 refurbed strix for 583
little slate
I don't know how well availability of 2080's will be
lone pond
are the super series only gonna be reference cards
or will other companies like gigabyte, asus, or msi also manufacture them
fallen schooner
they will all have their own model.
jagged tapir
🤔
lone pond
Is a nickel gpu block gonna corrode your system if you have a copper cpu block and a copper rad?
obtuse spindle
No, but watch for algae growth
lone pond
would i be able to use copper fittings on the nickel gpu block?
or will that corrode lol
obtuse spindle
lone pond
thanks ❤
so nickel and copper will work together just fine? @obtuse spindle
sorry im just unsure
obtuse spindle
Copper, nickel and silver are fine together. Mixing aluminum with any of the above is not recommended
wraith pasture
Galvanic corrosion
There's a chart online that will tell you which metal will cause the other one to corrode
halcyon marten
any news on intel graphics cards?
oblique cypress
lamo
its like saying what happened to the nvidia cpus
lmaoooo
exactly it doesnt exIsT
rough harness
Just read new cards and got a small stiff
halcyon marten
what? intel has plans to release gpus in 2020
oblique cypress
ok?
oblique cypress
yeah ik about that
thot yo meant nvidia
you*
i dont think there's news for intel gpus yet
or not much
rough harness
If AMD didn’t touch the 2080 basic... intel won’t touch it either
fresh lily
rough harness
I have hope for them to... but with the new 7nm and they still didnt touch it... not holding my breath
coarse meteor
jagged tapir
loooooooool
cedar perch
do you guys know if a 2 fan gigabyte gtx 1060 will fit onto the motherboard of a dell optiplex 990 without blocking any sata ports?
obtuse spindle
it does fit
it's a tight fit, hold on
eh, i thought i had a picture of my 1060 in a 990 board
but yeah, it fits
main mauve
Question: In building a system, how do I know when a selected GPU will be relatively overpowered in comparison to a selected CPU by just looking at the specs?
I'm asking in regards to bottlenecking but I'm just overall really confused about how to pick the most logical combination of CPU and GPU.
main mauve
@cedar perch thanks for the website 👌 very helpful
cedar perch
youre welcome, im glad to help because im kind of new to computers.
feral axle
does the naming for the super cards just make anyone else think nvidia no longer cares if it makes sense?
obtuse spindle
yep