#graphics-cards

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oblique cypress
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k

dreamy haven
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portable handheld PCs are your phone

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lol

vernal kiln
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Those already exist windows phone ^^^your living in the past

lone pond
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9080: you are the graphics card

marble flint
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Hmm

echo kraken
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Buy it you wont

oblique cypress
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throw away 51 dollars, you wont

timid gazelle
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That can't be true

fallen schooner
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Don't buy that.

marble flint
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I wasnt planning to 😂

lone pond
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seems legit

tropic moon
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Hahaha😂
I saw few listings like that when I was researching what 1070 ti to get , they're always like $52 for some reason

dusky tulip
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The 1070ti is a great card. I had a MSI 1070ti Duke. Great card. With a slight overclocking it was as good as some stock 1080s

granite juniper
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never buy anything from aliexpress :v

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it makes facebook marketplace look like amazon

modest prism
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@granite juniper I no joke spend over 10k a year on alieexpress

granite juniper
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The only experiences I’ve had there have been bad one. I guess its preference

hard quartz
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They seem kinda to good to be true @granite juniper

maiden night
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If anyone has any knowledge on 980 ti's and can help Me Identify what the damaged components are I'd appreciate it and like to take a shot at repairing it, I know and found the r33 Inductor but the others im clueleess

fallen schooner
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yikes

gilded flame
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is this the aftermath of heroshima or a pc pic?

fallen schooner
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I'd go ahead and junk it.

echo kraken
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see if any computer repair places have online support and ask them if it's worth trying to fix

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or see if the company will replace it/see what they'll to

maiden night
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@echo kraken Ill hit up EVGA support and see what they think, sucks cause this is an RMA'd card of and RMA'd card and It doesnt have warranty anymore :/

echo kraken
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oof, guessing you haven't had the best of luck with the cards

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maybe it's an issue with another part of the pc

maiden night
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nope the r33's for 780ti's and 980 ti's have had random issues for a year or two apparently

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buncha reddit posts and stuff about burnt up r33's

echo kraken
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ouch that sucks

maiden night
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yep

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shoulda been like "yo EVGA can I get a card of similar performance" when I RMA'd it again :/

fallen schooner
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cut your losses.

surreal willow
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since amd is replacing the rx 570 with the 5700, you think they will release a rx 5800 to replace the 580?

maiden night
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@surreal willow prob not since the Radeon 7 is a thing still in production

surreal willow
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@maiden night so do you think I should wait for the navi releases and just get one of those, or should I get a radeon vii?

dreamy haven
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I'm trying to decide the same...splurge for a VII or wait to see what Navi delivers...I'm just not sure that the initial Navi offerings will have what I am looking for (a higher-end or flagship card)

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it might be next year before the more powerful Navi arrive

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I'd rather not blow 700 on a VII when it's old (Vega) stop-gap tech

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but I also don't care to wait another year before upgrading

echo kraken
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wait for navi to drop and buy a VII for cheaper cause price will probably drop

dreamy haven
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not necessarily

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a flagship card doesn't have to drop in price just because low and mid-end newer cards arrive

wary notch
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and 6/4ths

dreamy haven
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I don't expect radeon VII will drop until the Navi hi-end release, possibly in 2020

upper crag
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is it worth the extra 75 bucks to upgrade from the gtx 1660 to the 1660ti?

oblique cypress
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if you have the money yes

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if not, gtx 1660 is still a great card

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i have it

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is a good onE

upbeat rover
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Not rly worth it

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Wait till you can afford 1070ti or something

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Or 1070

oblique cypress
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if he has the money yeah thats also an excellent choice

granite juniper
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Vega 56, 1080, or 1070 ti for 1080/1440 (older games)

granite juniper
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@digital remnant thoughts? U know a lot more than me with gpus

oblique cypress
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you got the money right?

granite juniper
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They’re all around 300, which is around where I was looking to spend

fallen schooner
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evga b-stock

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titan x for 300

digital remnant
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I like the 1080 and the 1080ti. Right now IMO they are a good bang for the buck.

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1070 would be a good pick too. It is not a bad card. I dont use AMD card so I cant say to much on them.

upper crag
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im not sure if i should ask this in graphics chat or peripherals

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im not sure if i should ask this in graphics chat or peripherals

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i read somewhere if i have Nvidia gpu my monitor should probably have g-sync

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so i looked and my monitor has freesync

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is this something i should change or does it really matter?

fallen schooner
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meh

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not really

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it does help frame tearing

upper crag
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idk what that is

fallen schooner
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I have nvidia gpu and freesync monitor

upper crag
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cool

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thanks

echo kraken
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@upper crag What nvidia gpu do you have?

upper crag
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im still debating between geforce gtx 1660 or the 1660 ti

echo kraken
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those will both support freesync with the latest drivers

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gsync is just a bit higher quality and nvidia only, but they cost a lot more

granite juniper
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:l well i realized that the monitor only has free sync, but i dont think it should matter too much if i switch to the 1080

rugged yew
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i want to upgrade my gtx 980 4 gbs card

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any recommendation for better gaming

granite juniper
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What’s ur price range @rugged yew ?

rugged yew
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around 400 dollars max is 500

quasi hinge
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There’s also a bunch more on Newegg for a similar price, this once seemed at a glance to have slightly better specs tho

granite juniper
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Yeah 2070 is good

lone pond
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Guys

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Im new to graphics card

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s

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What do I get? Asus Rog RTX 2060? or GTX 1080?

half sapphire
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RTX 2070

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It's as good as the 1080, or close

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and better than the 2060

modest prism
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between those two cards, get the 2060, However if it was me I'd buy a cheaper version than the rog but that's just my opinion. It's a great card if that's what you want

granite juniper
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Depends on budget. If you have less money, get a 2060. If you have more money to spend, get a 2070.

random venture
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constant 240

fluid stag
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How much FPS will I get in Fortnite with all Ultra settings with this build:

RTX 2080 clocked at 1860mhz
i7-9700k @ 4.9ghz
16GB RAM @ 3200mhz

Monitor at 1440p

marble flint
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Dont play fort on ultra settings

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Do yourself a favor

placid oasis
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depends on your resolution as well. that will kill pretty much anything atm tho

fluid stag
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Can I reach 165 FPS with that build at 1440p with semi-maxed settings?

placid oasis
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do you got a monitor that goes that high with refresh rate?

fluid stag
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Yeah, 1440p with a refresh rate of 165hz

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And G-Sync ;)

placid oasis
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you should be fine

fluid stag
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Okay thanks

marble flint
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Why do u want to play fort at ultra settings

fluid stag
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I don't

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I don't like that game

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Just wanted to see how much FPS I would get in that to compare with other games

oblique cypress
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lol

fluid stag
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XD

marble flint
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OwO

placid oasis
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depends on the game tbh

marble flint
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Fort isnt very optimized

proper loom
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Yeah other games are different

placid oasis
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fortnite isnt as graphically challenging as say, division 2 or wildlands

proper loom
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Like GTA v is more demanding that fortnite

granite juniper
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Idk if this is allowed, but is anybody selling a gtx 1080?

fallen schooner
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evga b-stock

granite juniper
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1080 or ti @fallen schooner ?

fallen schooner
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depends

fluid stag
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Don't buy a GTX 1080. Get an RTX 2080 instead :)

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I just finished my build with it today, but only tested Rocket League. Max settings at 1440p, and I got the maximum 250 FPS. This is without overclocking 😁

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I can't wait to test GPU heavy games and see what I get 👍

echo kraken
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what GPU did you have before?

feral axle
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you are creating negative pressure with that fan setup

hidden bramble
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what's wrong with negative pressure? I have my set up like that and it runs very well

feral axle
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if you dont have enough ventilation you will choke your system

hidden bramble
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true but still as long as you have some it works

oblique cypress
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i like balanced

wraith pasture
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What Happened...

short cedar
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oof

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jw, is a rx 590 good enough?

pliant forge
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thats a lot of dirt

round raven
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Cool

granite juniper
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1070 ti or 1080?

feral axle
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1050 ti

upbeat rover
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Intel integrated graphics

jovial moth
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If you want to waste the money, the 1080 is marginally better than a 1070 ti. But for the money you'd be spending for a new one, a 2070 would be more fun...and cheaper.

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@granite juniper

worldly crow
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whats everyones thoughts on rx5700 line? think it will be better than rtx 2070?

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its stated that its 10% faster but will it be cheaper

toxic bison
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what kinda mid range amd cards would y’all recommend

wraith pasture
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mid range? like... 1080p gaming?

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580 or 590

viscid wadi
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RTX titan

wraith pasture
fallen schooner
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wow theo.

feral axle
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Vega 56 on sale is good

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I personally got one and it’s treated me and my ultrawide well

oblique cypress
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"mid range"

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not high end

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rx 570 or 580 are excellent cards for 1080p gaming

feral axle
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a vega 56 can be 250 if you look in the right places

oblique cypress
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yes

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tho he didnt say his budget

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if it was under 200 then yes an rx

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if above than prob a vega

feral axle
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that tru

granite juniper
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Idk on the right used markets you can find a 1080 fe for like 220

echo kraken
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avg 1080 used is around 300-330 rn so if someone is trying to sell quick you could possibly find one that low

rustic gust
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Hey all

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I got a question

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So I might be building a pc this summer

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Around 1500 bucks

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Should I go RTX or the new rdna line-up

fallen schooner
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i'd wait to see how the new stuff pans out.

echo kraken
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If I were to do a new build I'd wait for the new ryzen to drop and for more info about the gpus to come

fallen schooner
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^

granite juniper
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Anybody selling a 1070 ti for 250ish? Ik it’s kinda low, but trying to get a decent build and on a tight budget

tidal stratus
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Hi

oblique cypress
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lmao

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a 1070 ti for 250

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way too low for a used one

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unless its a really bad quality one jeez

dreamy haven
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lol

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yeah that's basically a lowball for a 1070ti

echo kraken
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@granite juniper you can find quite a few 1070tis for $280 used

empty nacelle
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Quite a few on eBay as we speak

granite juniper
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Yeah. Im watching a 1070 ti that I might be able to get for 240

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don’t steal it :l lol

sharp cairn
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Wdym?

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Oh nvm😂

granite juniper
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?

echo kraken
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Ima come yoink it

granite juniper
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:l

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So mean

echo kraken
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jk, I don't hef monays

granite juniper
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Same

lone pond
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What would be a good GPU to go with a i7-8700?

echo kraken
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1070/ti or 2060 would be a nice fit

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2070 if you feel like it

lyric basin
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i would get a 208- ti

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2080 ti

fallen schooner
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Wouldn't we all.

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lol

tall violet
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im very interested in the 5700 xt

broken sonnet
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@tall violet show a pic?

tall violet
broken sonnet
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oooo

marble flint
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They shouldnt had made it that expensive

bright geyser
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you know things cost money to make right

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🤔

marble flint
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Yes

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Its competitor is the rtx 2070

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If they wouldve made it cheaper there wouldve been an even better reason to buy this card

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But nvidia will release their super cards and likely just destroy it

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Since there have been reports the 2070 is getting a price decrease to $400

dense flicker
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NO WAY

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really?

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when

marble flint
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Idk probs when the super cards come out

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I also seen another where it would drop to 449 which is same price of the 5700xt

bright geyser
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ye there gonna match it

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not lower it

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cuzz they don't have to

open barn
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@marble flint super cards?

viral gust
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yeah they are making the rtx cards a super edition

topaz pollen
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super edition my pc probably cost about the same price as GTX 1060 XD

open barn
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The 10k$ one we talking about?

marble flint
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Wut

open barn
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For movie making

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Or what card

marble flint
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No

open barn
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How much is rumored price for super edition

marble flint
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Its like 2060 and 2070 supers

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The same price of the normal one at their launch i think

open barn
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Okay

marble flint
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Which is why the originals lowering in price

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I think the 2080 might have a super as well

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But not the 2080ti

open barn
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Idk why I asked I have a laptop that can’t run anything and won’t be able to afford the card... but idk

marble flint
granite juniper
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How about a super price cut on all the other cards 😉

broken sonnet
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@granite juniper that’d help if graphics cards of all types went on sale

wraith pasture
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wait till around july 7th, the sales will prob start because of navi release

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(for older and current cardS)

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(mostly mid range cards)

bright geyser
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id still say go Nvidia

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not for rtx or dlss

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shadowplay is godlike

oblique cypress
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meh

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too bad it doesnt work for every game

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wish it could be used to siege like cmon, one of the most popular games and i cant even use it

bright geyser
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you know you can use obs?

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its recommended to use obs

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@oblique cypress

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you can also change shadowplay to record the screen

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instead of the game so it works on everything

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if u don't wana use obs

lone pond
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What’s the best budget cpu for a i5-9400k Unlocked

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Gpu*

bright geyser
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rx 580

lone pond
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K thx

main mauve
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similar question, what's a good GPU in regards to matching the performance of a Ryzen 3800X

bright geyser
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u can find rx 590's aswell on sale for rx 580 price

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that's a better option

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what resolution?

main mauve
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resolution for me?

bright geyser
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yes

main mauve
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2560 by 1080

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21:9

oblique cypress
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obs drops my frames

bright geyser
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it shouldn't

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also that's an odd resolution id prob get no less then 2060 if your just looking for 60 fps

main mauve
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that's what I was leaning towards; the 2060. Any recommended brand of card?

bright geyser
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whatever has 2 or more fans

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only the cooler is different on most of those cards

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the board's are all the same

main mauve
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that's fair. thanks much

lone pond
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MSI 2060 OC or 1660

thorny hare
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Guys do you think the 1660 is cute

oblique cypress
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what?

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if it looks good?

wanton furnace
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Got a 1070 for $299 on cyber Monday

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No reason to upgrade

lone pond
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oooh dang

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that's a good deal

clever mortar
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DAMN

wanton furnace
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Lemme grab the version

lone pond
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i'm running a gigabyte rtx 2060 gaming oc pro with an i7 7700k clocked to 4.5 Ghz here

wanton furnace
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EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition

lone pond
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however my RAM is the only thing that's bottlenecking my system

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1 stick of 16GB 2400mhz CL17

clever mortar
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GTX 1080 super clocked, I5 8600k @ 4.8 Ghz

wanton furnace
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Then i have a 9600k overclocked to 4.9ghz, couldn't quite get it to 5 :(

lone pond
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rip

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i tried clocking my 7700K to 5 once

wanton furnace
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Well it crashed on Intelburntest but it probably could be fine at 5ghz normally

lone pond
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got 2 bluescreens in a row lmao

clever mortar
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I tried too. It can do it, but crash after like an hour. so I'm playing it a bit safer with 4.8

lone pond
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i see

wanton furnace
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50c idle still :D

lone pond
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my fans literally go sicko mode if i clock to 4.8

wanton furnace
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Nice

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I got a watercooled and my pump goes a chug sometimes

lone pond
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Are Radeon VIIs worth it? Or are Navi GPUs good enough for 4k 60fps gaming?

fallen bison
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I would go with the VII if you have the money

lone pond
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I have a 4k monitor

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I hear people say to just gk with 2080

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But I don't trust nvidia

fallen bison
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why not?

lone pond
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And they're already releasing upgrades

fallen bison
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i have a 2070

lone pond
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Their prices are top tier price gouging

fallen bison
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yea

lone pond
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For small percentages in performance increases

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They charge 2x or more in price

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It's crazy

fallen bison
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yea ive noticed that in the newer cards

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just for RTx

lone pond
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Exactly

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So I'm thinking of trying team red

fallen bison
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ynot a bad idea

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not*

lone pond
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My only gripe with the RVII is that there's no 3rd party cards

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Only reference cards

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From what I've se the cooling leaves much to be desired

fallen bison
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yea

lone pond
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And I'm not savvy enough for water cooling

modest prism
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It's sort of a prosumer card. not really surprising

lone pond
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This

fallen bison
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i preferer 3 fan cards

lone pond
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If I had the wherewithal of graphic design, I'd put that card in through hell

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Same

modest prism
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Yeah I've got a 3 fan 2060 atm just so that it's a bit more quiet underload

lone pond
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I just found a 4gb gpu on Newegg for 72$

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Nvidia

wanton furnace
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what gpu?

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memory isnt everything

lone pond
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A 1050

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I want a top of the line GPU :(

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Still running a 970

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That's giving me all sorts of artifacts

nocturne folio
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960M over here

lone pond
nocturne folio
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also only 8 gigs of ram

lone pond
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I had a 570 until it died 2 years ago

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Got a pair of Beats by Dre for Christmas

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And traded for the 970 same day

edgy trellis
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im still running a 760 rofl

tiny wasp
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I used to run a 610

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Up until december

tulip mortar
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I have 1060.... suggestion for a upgrade?

tiny wasp
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What's ur budget?

tulip mortar
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Okay first off...do u think I need an upgrade.

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I do Sim racing and some FPS like Apex Legends

tiny wasp
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Nahhhh

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Not for some time

tulip mortar
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It easily churns 130 fps on a 144Hz screen

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Anyone here experienced Ray Tracing?

tiny wasp
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That's alright

tulip mortar
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Anyone here playing Apex Legends

lone pond
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Got bored fast of it

oblique cypress
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got bored in the first week

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i started playing it near end of may

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since i just finished building my own pc for the first time that can actually game

lone pond
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I'm hooked on League of Legends

lone pond
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what would be a good gpu to pair with a Ryzen 5 2600x?

main mauve
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rtx 2080 ti

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XD

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no don't do that

lone pond
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I was thinking of a rtx2060. It that a good option?

main mauve
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i would honestly say rtx 2060

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lol

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we're on the same page

lone pond
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or maybe vega 56?

main mauve
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i'm unfamiliar with the vega 56

lone pond
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yeah me too, I always used nvidia cards

main mauve
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you upgrading a build or starting a build?

lone pond
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upgrading

main mauve
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nice nice

lone pond
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I currently have a gtx 960 😅 but I would like to get something more powerfull

mild rapids
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I have gtx 0dex

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Very powerful graphics card

main mauve
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You're tellin' me. I'm likely going to be building a pc in a month. But in the meantime I'm still using an asus laptop from 5 years ago with a geforce 845m

lone pond
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Nice, what are going to be the specifications of your planned build?

main mauve
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well, i'm currently waiting on the release of ryzen gen 3 CPUs before i decide on the motherboard, and ram

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i'll send the link to my current build

lone pond
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Thats a wise decisio

main mauve
lone pond
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I builed my rig about a year ago

main mauve
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note that the ryzen 2700x is a placeholder

lone pond
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looking good!

main mauve
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i'm planning on a seasonic 650 watt PSU but it wasn't listed in pcpartpicker

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thanks!

lone pond
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If you decided on your motherboard, maybe you can replace the sata ssd with an M.2?

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I have a m.2 aswell and i have crazy fast boot times

main mauve
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yessir, that's actually what i was also going to mention to you

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M.2 seems very good, pricy but good

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I'm debating getting the 860 evo ssd and waiting on the M.2 until it drops in price. But i'm definitely thinking about just slapping a 1tb samsung nvme M.2 in there

lone pond
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I have a 250gb samsung 970 evo, and a couple of traditional hard drives for files and games

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the ssd as boot drive ofcourse

main mauve
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yes, the 970 evo is what i would be looking at

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are you happy with m.2? I would assume yes, but do you have anything critical to say about it?

lone pond
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nothing negative, my pc is booted in a matter of seconds

main mauve
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solid 👌

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the only problem that i'm left with is deciding between micro ATX vs mini ITX ... particularly the case options (keeping things portable and sleek) while also maintaining good thermal performance

lone pond
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I have ATX myself, and the NZXT s340 elite as case, I'd go for Micro-Atx because Mini ITX is too small for me

main mauve
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that's fair yea

tulip mortar
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My laptop came with a SATA SSD, does that mean it doesn't support PCLE?

wraith pasture
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cheapest 2080 right now and comes with wolfenstein young blood.

granite juniper
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:l somebody wanna buy me one

dull python
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$650? jeez i spent that much on at 1080

feral axle
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I need that

lone pond
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Lowered prices because they're going to release replacements

meager plover
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If a laptop has an Intel UHD Graphics 620 in it how difficult/possible/expensive would it be to install a graphics card that can keep up with an i5-8250U?

woeful hollow
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you cant swap laptop GPU

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you cant swap anything but ram and soprage on laptopds

meager plover
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😭

woeful hollow
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and uhd 620 is super trash

meager plover
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Alright thanks

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I know

woeful hollow
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np

meager plover
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How are Vega 10’s?

unique topaz
woeful hollow
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congrats. it will def. be a bit better. the 1660 ti would have been a better purchase though

unique topaz
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i bet but being the OC edition it will do almost as well as the ti and for the 70 extra dollars i didnt see it worth it. plus my monitor is only 1080p so this should do much better

woeful hollow
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na it would have def been worth it

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but its still stronger than 1060 3gb

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the ti is way better in this models case... not always are the ti versions that much better.

feral axle
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@meager plover you can do a external gpu with network card replacement cables but it’s not worth it compared to getting a relatively cheap gaming pc or something

unique topaz
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Yeah i feel ya @woeful hollow im just happy and mainly the 1060 is so loud so with the updated cooling system im hoping to finally quiet my system lol

woeful hollow
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yea the turing chips run allot cooler

barren salmon
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Can somebody help me I got my PC to turn on and the my new GPU flashes and then it does nothing

clear wagon
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have you made sure that all the SATA wires are plugged in

barren salmon
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Yup

clear wagon
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hmm

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have you made sure you have all the drivers installed

barren salmon
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No I mean like the light flashes then turns off and nothing happens

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The PC doesnt even turn on

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I mean boot up

clear wagon
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hmm

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its plugged in?

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lol

barren salmon
#

Yes

hushed ice
#

I don't know much about computers but have you checked if your ram works.

round vale
#

did you double check to make sure its seated properly?

barren salmon
#

Yes it is

vital glacier
#

Yes

woeful hollow
#

reset the cmos

vital glacier
#

Sorry lol.. bye

barren salmon
#

Reset the cmos?

woeful hollow
#

. unplug the pc. then take out the battery on the mothboard

barren salmon
#

Ok

woeful hollow
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while the battery is out. hold the power button down for 30-60 seconds. put the battery back in. and power up

vital glacier
#

Well dang

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Very descriptive

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Gg

barren salmon
#

Should my PC be on?

vital glacier
#

How can it be on... If battery is gone 🤔 lmao

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I'm stupid... Don't listen to me

barren salmon
#

The battery on the motherboard is different then the actual power lol

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Np

vital glacier
#

Shushy

woeful hollow
#

whyen your holding the button down. the pc is unplugged and the battery is out

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then replace the battery and plug the pc back in... then turn it back on

barren salmon
#

Kk thnx

woeful hollow
#

it might reboot a couple times depending on the b oard. but when you try turning it back on for the first time after resetting. it might take it a lil bit longer to show up on the screen if it worked

barren salmon
#

Nope it didn't work

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Yo savage what's a spam email that I can send a video to

woeful hollow
#

huh?

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and your black screen started when you put the new gpu in?

barren salmon
#

I have a video that explains things better

woeful hollow
#

you can post it here i think

barren salmon
#

Nope to big

woeful hollow
#

i cant access it

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something about google drive

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ooo nvm

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so idk whats goign on from the video...... does it turn on and then tuirn off

round vale
#

did u get it rixed @barren salmon

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*fixed

barren salmon
#

nope, my computer cant find the graphics card

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even though I plugged it in correctly and the fans are turning

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@round vale

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or just anybody

jovial moth
#

Is this a new GPU?

#

I just saw it was and you've been having issues. Download display driver uninstaller https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

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Install it and boot up in safe mode

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While in safe mode, run that utility

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Then reboot

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See if that helps.

thorny hare
#

idk that sounds crazy

jovial moth
#

Ok.

potent kindle
#

Is there something stuck in the fans by chance, like hair or fuzz? Could be preventing the fans from turning. Another option is checking if it works in another PCIe slot. I’ve had a similar issue before where the PCIe slot went bad

dense dew
#

im trying to keep it under 1500

main mauve
#

alrighty, i'm assuming this is for gaming?

dense dew
#

yes

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cs:go, r6s stuff like taht

main mauve
#

solid

echo kraken
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csgo will run on a potato hooked to a monitor

dense dew
#

ik

main mauve
#

when are you planning on doing this build?

dense dew
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i have maxed setting running `100 on laptop

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idk n ear future

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cause im money tight and im just getting a job soon, within 1-2 years

main mauve
#

okay, i'm sure you're aware of the ryzen gen 3 hype train. I'd wait until those release on July 7th before choosing a processor/mobo/and ram

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the 3700x will be the same base price as the 2700x

dense dew
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yes ive heard

main mauve
#

awesome, yeet

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otherwise

dense dew
#

oh ok

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same price you say?

main mauve
#

yeah, that's what has been reported by most everyone as of right now

dense dew
#

ok

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anything else?

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gpu? psu?

main mauve
#

here's the listing that i've found to be fairly representative

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Ryzen 9 3950X—16C/32T, 3.5GHz to 4.7GHz, 72MB cache, 105W TDP, $749 (in September)

Ryzen 9 3900X—12C/24T, 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz, 70MB cache, 105W TDP, $499

Ryzen 7 3800X—8C/16T, 3.9GHz to 4.5GHz, 36MB cache, 105W TDP, $399

Ryzen 7 3700X—8C/16T, 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz, 36MB cache, 65W TDP, $329

Ryzen 5 3600X—6C/12T, 3.8GHz to 4.4GHz, 35MB cache, 95W TDP, $249

Ryzen 5 3600—6C/12T, 3.6GHz to 4.2GHz, 35MB cache, 65W TDP, $199

Ryzen 5 3400G—(Zen+) 4C/8T, 3.7GHz to 4.2GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 11 Graphics at 1400MHz, 65W TDP, $149

Ryzen 3 3200G—(Zen+) 4C/4T, 3.6GHz to 4.0GHz, 6MB cache, Vega 8 Graphics at 1250MHz, 65W TDP, $99

dense dew
#

so im new to ryzen

wraith pasture
#

Include retailer up price

dense dew
#

whats like one of the best with out going overboard with price

main mauve
#

i've also heard that ryzen cpus are designed to make really good use of the ram speed, but what you have listed is very good nonetheless

dense dew
#

yeah same

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thank you

main mauve
#

i'd say the 3600x or 3700x

dense dew
#

so what should i get for the cpu?

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oh ok

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what gen

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i have the gen 7 rn on it

main mauve
#

2,000 numbers are gen 2

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3,000 are gen 3

dense dew
#

?

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AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor

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thats mine

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altho ryzen doesnt have many cores

main mauve
#

i'd recommend getting the gen 3 ryzen 7 3700x if you have it in the budget

dense dew
#

ok

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is that one like the best one out there?

main mauve
#

i mean, you're trying to balance price and performance. So i'd say it's one of the better ones in that regard yea

dense dew
#

ok

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thank you alot

main mauve
#

you're welcome!

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i do have a few other thoughts on the build

dense dew
#

ok go ahead

main mauve
#

I think the video card option is very good. I actually have that very card listed in my build that i'm planning to do next month.

dense dew
#

awesome

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well i game at 1920x1080 so i need something to keep up with high setting at 100+

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fps

main mauve
#

again, depending on the motherboard that you decide upon once ryzen gen 3 releases, I would highly recommend an M.2 SSD

north escarp
#

Honestly ryzen is the best budget option but intel is the best way to go imho, I7 blows ryen out of the water right now

dense dew
#

yeah

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ik

main mauve
#

but that also depends on you're budget vs how much storage you will actually need

dense dew
#

but i need budget

main mauve
#

yes, such is the goal

dense dew
#

not bad

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but whole build at around 1500

north escarp
#

i5 is pretty decent and I honestly think its better than ryzen 7

main mauve
#

@north escarp i mean, it's a cost to performance thing and gen 3 ryzen is looking really promising so

north escarp
#

Always spend as much as you can on the motherboard and graphics card, you can save up for the other stuff

dense dew
#

the best one on market rn is Intel Core i7-9700K (9th Gen) $408

main mauve
#

@dense dew here's an SSD that would work really well. it's only 500GB but it's reliable and at a decent cost

lone pond
#

is there really gonna be that big of a performance difference between the 3900x and the 3950x

dense dew
#

ok

north escarp
#

KingXF for the ryzens yeah a littlebit. compared to intel, none at all

dense dew
#

i want a bigger ssd

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so i can put bios

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and internet stuff

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so which cpu should i get? Intel or Ryzen

lone pond
#

so would the 3950x be more worth it than the 3900x or vice versa

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ryzen

north escarp
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Im saving up for a 6tb SSD presently. I just replced my processor with an I9

dense dew
#

lets put price out of the way

final abyss
#

Well the 3950x is overkill for gaming by far

north escarp
#

If you dont care about price, I can build you a nice ass PC right now for 4000

main mauve
#

i know that a 2TB HDD is tempting, I'm still debating putting one in my build. I would almost just upgrade the SSD to a 1TB 860 evo for the purposes of gaming. But again, you know what you'll need it for anyways

north escarp
#

And that thing wont need any updates or changes for years

dense dew
#

im paying or you @north escarp lamo

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lmao

lone pond
#

2TB HDD is like $60 kek

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at least for the seagate barracuda

dense dew
#

ok

#

i need a summary, (not trying to ask alot here) so what cpu should i get for mid budget, what storage should i get? and the ssd

north escarp
#

I mean I have a monster of a computer currently, has 1tb evo samsung SSD, MSI MEG GODLIKE Z390, an I9 9900k processor, 64gb RAM, NVIDIA 2080 TI, and 10tb HDD.

dense dew
#

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

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jesus

north escarp
#

what are you trying to spend currently

oblique cypress
#

tf

dense dew
#

can you buy me one @north escarp lmao

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about 1500

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$

main mauve
#

but otherwise, a few closing thoughts @dense dew I really like the black and white aesthetic that you're going for. It's very clean and fresh. Here is a link to ram that is equaivalent in performance to what you have listed that might look absolutely fabulous with the color scheme you are going for. I think it's only like $10 more expensive than what you originally had, but it would look so sexy. Otherwise, I think you are looking great on that build.

north escarp
#

So for 1500 you can build a nice 1080 TI with an I7

dense dew
#

yes

north escarp
#

dependig on how you go, you could possibly get a better graphics card as well

dense dew
#

thank you @main mauve

north escarp
#

do you want me to build you a PC? I could get you a very nice set up for 1500

dense dew
#

@north escarp you dont have to if you want but im going to spend money that can be going for a car or something but im going with a pc 😆 but can you build me one for around 1500?

main mauve
#

@north escarp I mean, the RTX 2070 is already a really good card that has very similar performance to a 1080ti

dense dew
#

can you keep the same asthetic/color s i was going for though

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white/black

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yeah

north escarp
#

@main mauve You are right but for better budget its just as good and cheaper

dense dew
#

needs i researched alot on the gpu

north escarp
#

@dense dew Yeah I can do it, I enjoy doing it

dense dew
#

thank you sky

north escarp
#

@dense dew Any specifications in mind?

dense dew
#

can i call you or do you have a prob with that

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can you keep the same asthetic/color s i was going for though white/black

north escarp
#

@dense dew just private message me please

dense dew
#

ok

main mauve
#

comparison of the 2070 and the 1080ti @north escarp

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look a the value listing for performance to price

soft jewel
#

I love u

main mauve
#

@soft jewel ?

soft jewel
#

Sorry

#

I’m leaving

wraith pasture
dense dew
main mauve
#

@dense dew what was the final cost?

dense dew
#

i dont remember lemme see im looking

main mauve
#

i going to make a guess of $1,600

dense dew
#

lmao who would buy this
HP OMEN X Emperium 65
65"
3840 x 2160
144 Hz
4 ms
VA
16:9
$4999.99

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its a moniter

main mauve
#

i'm honestly not a believer in 4k for gaming lol

dense dew
#

why the hell is this a aspect ratio 683:240

main mauve
#

because the 2000's

marble flint
#

It cant be simplified down further

dense dew
main mauve
#

damn, i was so close on the guess price lol

dense dew
#

$1703.21 with moniter

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without
$1603.22

main mauve
#

solid build tbh

dense dew
#

$3 off

main mauve
#

lol

dense dew
#

what res do you guys play a?

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at?*

main mauve
#

2560 x 1080

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21:9

dense dew
#

wow

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ok no need to flex

ocean frigate
#

4k. Laptop

main mauve
#

ultrawide is where it's at

dense dew
#

"3:09 AM] Needs Moar Boosters: i'm honestly not a believer in 4k for gaming lol" has 4k monitor

main mauve
#

its not 4k

dense dew
#

close

main mauve
#

1080p is a resolution of 1920 x 1080

dense dew
#

ik

main mauve
#

mine is 2560 by 1080

dense dew
#

oh nvm

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yi wasnt reading i tright

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i cant english

main mauve
#

it's all good

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lol

dense dew
#

can i "@" newegg and tell them they are awesome 😆

main mauve
#

doooooooo itttttttt

dense dew
#

i dont want to get kicked or banned

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it doesnt say it on rules tho

main mauve
#

i'd do it during the middle of the day tho, then you'd be fine tbh

dense dew
#

yeah

#

why am i up talking about pc's at 3:19 AM?

main mauve
#

alrighty, i'm glad to see you've made good progress on your pc build. It's now time for me to get some sleep. Have a nice one. Night

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lol, same

dense dew
#

Night

bright geyser
#

why a 60hz monitor

jovial moth
#

Can we try to keep conversations relevant to the channel, please? #general-chat is a great place for casual questions.

limpid minnow
#

Need advice - RX 590 or GTX 1660

#

keep in mind the AMD 50th anniversary stuff

bright geyser
#

rx 590

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not only does it come with those games its almost same perf

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and u get more vram

limpid minnow
#

what brand of card do you reccomend me getting for the RX 590

bright geyser
#

anything 2 fans or more

limpid minnow
#

is PowerColor reliable?

granite juniper
#

Aaaaaaa just grabbed a used strix 1070 ti for 226 shipping included

#

Yeeees

fallen schooner
#

@granite juniper nice!

jovial moth
#

@barren salmon any luck with your GPU?

deep bluff
#

Rtx 2070 or Gtx 1070?

dense flicker
#

@deep bluff if price isnt an issue, RTX 2070 for sure

deep bluff
#

ok thx

dense flicker
#

yeah

queen void
#

i love my msi 1660ti

#

it's really nice for the price. only payed 280 for it

jovial moth
#

Yeah I have an evga 1660ti and it is amazing

oblique cypress
#

i have the lil brother 1660

#

220 for it

woeful adder
#

What’s the best value gpu and cpu for around $200 each?

oblique cypress
#

gtx 1660

#

ryzen 7

celest kite
#

I have an i5 9600k with a GTX 1060 SC 6gb. What would be a good upgrade for me? Mainly play Apex and R6

wraith pasture
#

cpu is fine, gpu can be a good upgrade, 2070 or better. @celest kite

#

more frames the better for apex and r6

oblique cypress
#

@celest kite what's your rank in r6

wraith pasture
#

i dont play r6

oblique cypress
#

depends on his budget, so we really cant say anything unless he says his budget

#

did i say i was talking to you

#

n0

wraith pasture
#

-leaves-

oblique cypress
#

i are talk to only porson who mention dat gam3

#

i is ask queStion 0f h1m

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sank you very mUch

#

@wraith pasture what do you play

bright geyser
#

@celest kite apex 1080p runs at smooth 160fps + with 2080

oblique cypress
#

yeah no (insert kid friendly poop word because e knock forgot this was an actual company server) spiral

#

but he didnt give us a budget for a gpu upgrade so we dont know

wraith pasture
#

profanity @oblique cypress LOL

#

edit it

dense flicker
#

is it possible we could see 2 bans in one day?

wraith pasture
#

im giving him a chance sataniaWeary

dense flicker
#

ik

oblique cypress
#

lol 0k zAck

wraith pasture
#

HAHA E-KNOCK

dense flicker
#

kid friendly poop word

#

nice

oblique cypress
#

there read it again

dense flicker
#

eh

#

first was better

oblique cypress
#

yes sir

celest kite
#

@wraith pasture low, can't play ranked yet. I'm a console player, switching over

oblique cypress
#

oof

#

how long you been playing

celest kite
#

2 weeks. I'm not terrible, yet haha. My current build keeps blue screening so I bought all the parts to build a new system.

oblique cypress
#

so you've been playing for 2 weeks in siege

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the whole time

#

2 weeks

#

?

celest kite
#

Nope only had a few full games, system always has read errors.

#

Have quite a few buddies that play and they have been trying to get me to switch over.

#

I was thinking 2070 or 2080

oblique cypress
#

what's your budget

celest kite
#

350-700

bright geyser
#

wait for new rtx cards

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so current ones go down in price

#

should be less then a month

oblique cypress
#

lol

#

@celest kite how much are you willing to wait to get a pc

celest kite
#

I have everything sitting on a shelf right now ready to build my new pc. Was just going to use my current card(1060 SC) but I know I'm going to want more.

oblique cypress
#

whats your budget for a gpu

celest kite
#

Up to $700ish

oblique cypress
#

aight

#

you could get an rtx 2080

#

or if you dont care about hurrying to play on pc at the moment, wait till the new rtx cards are released so the other ones drop a bit like the guy said back there

main mauve
#

When are new rtx cards being released?

#

@oblique cypress

bright geyser
#

for your cpu

#

I recommend a 2080

oblique cypress
#

@main mauve people arent exactly sure

main mauve
#

Gotcha 👌

oblique cypress
#

people saying maybe july

main mauve
#

Tbh, that would be great timing with the ryzen cpus

oblique cypress
#

prob expect latest dates in august, hopefully in july for all of you people to upgrade with your 3k budgets lol

#

duh

#

it isnt a coincidence lmao

main mauve
#

Very true

frosty laurel
#

Quick question... so ever since i got my Vega 64 Card i have sometimes had an issue with random flickering black screens that last for like 5-10 seconds. i did alittle research and found that it may be a windows issue but nothing more than that. Anyone have any ideas how to fix or if thats actually the problem?

wraith pasture
#

try doing a totally clean install of your drivers

#

i want to recommend using DDU (in safe mode) then reinstall the drivers

frosty laurel
#

tried that and still happens from time to time. it usually only happens when boot up my computer. if i keep it on sleep then its fine. its almost like its formatting everytime i turn on my PC

wraith pasture
#

issues like this arise when windows already had their own amd video drivers installed and then you installed the newest drivers without uninstalling previous drivers.

#

maybe its a bad card

#

also had people this issue because of a bad cable

#

reseating your cables might help

frosty laurel
#

i did one better and upgraded the PSU

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went from 600w to 850 Gold

wraith pasture
#

did it help

#

or did it cause the problem

eager merlin
#

I freakin love when you use gifs or those lil emotes sorry had to say it. Pepe made me chuckle

frosty laurel
#

still happens when i boot up

wraith pasture
#

when you see device manager, does anything show up in terms of devices that need attention?

frosty laurel
#

its happened ever since i had the card

wraith pasture
#

might be a bad card

frosty laurel
#

i can push the card to 100% cap so hopefully it just never craps out on me

wraith pasture
#

my dumb ass would prob try to reformat to a clean version of windows and see if that would help

frosty laurel
#

tried that too

wraith pasture
#

still getting random black screens?

frosty laurel
#

i actually did that when i transferred OS to SSD

#

yeah i think ill just live with my PC in sleep mode lol

wraith pasture
#

transfering os to ssd isn't a fresh windows install, thats just transfering data

frosty laurel
#

no i deleted windows entirely and installed on top SSD. no transfer

wraith pasture
#

oh ok

#

so the random black screen is only during boot up?

frosty laurel
#

yup

wraith pasture
#

and you're using the monitors native resolution and refresh rate right?

frosty laurel
#

yup

wraith pasture
#

does it have freesync/gsync?

frosty laurel
#

freesync and i have enabled

wraith pasture
#

disable it

#

driver side and monitor side

#

and then see if that helps

frosty laurel
#

alright ill try that thanks friend

wraith pasture
#

good luck

bright geyser
#

freesync shouldnt always be on

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only when your using it in a specific application

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aka a game

#

else it can cause those issues

tough maple
#

@main mauve I'm confused a 2070 Third party card with an extra overclock will beat a unoverclocked FE 1080ti in "some" games but won't touch a Third party 1080ti even without overclock in any games 1080p especially even more in 1440p and 4k.

main mauve
#

My information may be incorrect yes. But I'd be curious to see some actual tested comparisons between the two just for curiosity's sake

tough maple
#

There's a few videos already

granite juniper
#

what cards are we comparing?

tough maple
#

Someone tested a Unoverclocked FE 1080ti vs a MSI gaming Z 2070 plus overclocked. In test bench it was neck to neck then when things went to gaming it only matched the 1080ti in 1 game out of 5

#

But if they would've overclocked the FE edition or even just a third party card like the MSI gaming x TRIO without overclock, the card would have no chance

granite juniper
#

they are around the same performance, one is just newer and does better with dlss

tough maple
#

They aren't because you have to overclock a 2070 just to match a stock founders edition 1080ti I just watched 4 different videos testing them

#

Now probably the new SUPER RTX 2070 will out perform the 1080ti even third party

frosty laurel
#

most of the 2000 series isnt even being utilized right? ex raytracing?

tough maple
#

Well DLSS is a good feature but it makes things blurry, pretty much supersampling

#

Besides DLSS and raytracing the 2000 cards have no other features.

wraith pasture
#

new nvenc

bright geyser
#

^

#

lower resolution = cpu bound for fps in games

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as higher resoultion = gpu bound that's when ull see the difference between a 1080ti and 2070

peak night
#

Would an RX 480 be a good Combo with a Pentium G5400

wraith pasture
#

for what games

#

the Pentium G5400 is only a dual core so its pretty limited on how many frames it can push the rx 480

bright geyser
#

is say it's a good combo

#

either that or a 1050

#

if your buying new tho no

#

used should be around 100

pale wing
#

would you recommend 2 or 3 fan gpu's?

bright geyser
#

2 fans is fine

#

if your getting vega 56 or vega 64 3 fans if available

pale wing
#

idk what those are lol oops

wraith pasture
#

the stronger the card the hotter it gets the more fans you'll need

bright geyser
#

👽 in most cases two fans is fine

#

in vega 56 and 64 even 3 fans aint enough

#

🐍

pale wing
#

i was looking at the gigabyte 2070 windforce 8gb

bright geyser
#

2 fans is fine

pale wing
#

okay ty!

bright geyser
#

if 3 fans isn't much more might be worth picking that up

#

if you want closer to slient operation under heavy load

pale wing
#

the 3 fan was actually cheaper than all the other 2 fan ones on newegg

bright geyser
#

if it fits go for it

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👽

pale wing
#

awesome thanks

tough maple
#

@wraith pasture GTX cards uses new NVENC as well.

bright geyser
#

wrong realseb

#

GTX uses old nvenc

wraith pasture
#

no hes right

#

the RTX cards use the new nvenc encoder better tho

#

high end 10 series cards can use the new nvenc pretty well, apex and new nvenc works great on mine.

bright geyser
#

the performance improvementrs are universal

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but the quality is rtx only

#

turns it into x264 medium presents quality

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instead of fast/faster with old GTX

wraith pasture
bright geyser
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👽 ik

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it looks great on strim

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iv looked at both an ye the quality difference is very noticeable

wraith pasture
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i was testing it when it came out and my quality went up, might of just been because of the performance improvement making it look that way

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ie. framerate/stability

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especially when i was doing 1080p60

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wasnt a ble to do 1080p60 very stable before

bright geyser
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prob Psycho Visual Tuning

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since that helps it not blur asmuch

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when fast moving

wraith pasture
wraith pasture
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profanity @north escarp

north escarp
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@lucid depot Says keep it pg-13 and pg-13 is allowed one F per film. So if we transfer that to real life it’s 1 F bomb per day.

pallid musk
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lol got a point

north escarp
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And since you deleted it, I’m allowed 1 more to my allotted day.

dense flicker
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talking back to a mod again...

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also wheres the parental guidance

wraith pasture
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company server, they have zero tolerance. i gave you a chance WhenLifeGetsAkko

dense flicker
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which guardian said u could watch this film 😤😤😤

north escarp
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Hey no trolling says it directly in the rules

lone pond
dense flicker
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its 12:16 am for me

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i need to sleep

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and im overtired

north escarp
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Here that, woke up with the worst diarrhea in my life and got work in 5 hours

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Think it was the salmon I ate last night, Salmon never agrees with my stomach 🤔

magic pebble
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sleep is for the weak

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i usually get 4-5 hours

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but I have insomnia and have gotten used to it over the last 20 years or so

oblique cypress
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jesus

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rip

golden fractal
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Question about graphics cards how good would a Sapphire+ RDX 590 be on a scale 1-10?

marble flint
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Its power hungry

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But a good card

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Probs like a 5 or 6

bright geyser
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good enough for anygame 1080p/1440p 60+fps

grave oasis
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What price do you guys think is good? Owner had it for 1 year

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And hello everyone I’m new here!

dense flicker
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hi welcome to the server

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lol sorry that sounded super unenthusiastic

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(idk how much a 1080Ti is worth sorry)

wraith pasture
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Used, 500-600

lone pond
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shoot IDK about that, but I have had an XFX Radeon RX550 on sale on offerup for over a month and all I am asking for is $50. IDK what it is, but it seems like no one wants to buy graphics cards these days

oblique cypress
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nah

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they justdont want bad ones

royal dawn
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Anyone who knows whats a normal temperature for a rx 570 4gb in full load (1 fan design blower)

bright geyser
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anything below 80c is fine

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under full load

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1 fan tho might go a over that

main mauve
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Are RTX 2000 series cards really worth it over GTX 1000 series?

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I understand the ray tracing debacle of the RTX cards, but would it be worth it to buy an RTX card for better standard performance (non ray tracing) over a GTX card?

bright geyser
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if u can find a cheap 1080ti buy that instead

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find em used 500$~

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same performance

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if you want to use the new nvenc (quality boost) to stream I say its worth it

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1080ti is = to 2080

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other then that no real reason other then its newer

dense flicker
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wait

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@main mauve rtx cards have a thing on them that is one port for all vr stuff

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so you only have one cable to your headset

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there arent any headsets that utilize it rn but give it some time

pearl flint
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I don't even have a gpu

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Why am I here

echo kraken
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@grave oasis Hybrid 1080ti's will go for $550 used

pallid musk
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@grave oasis sorry little late. my brother was able to get one only used for 6 months for $500

echo kraken
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@pallid musk was it a hybrid tho? those tend to sell for around $50 more on the used market cause water cooling and stuffs

fair egret
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@dense flicker , The Oculus Rift S uses a display port cable instead of HDMI, so the one port that's offset for VR is usable now 😛 as well as the USB C with an adapter to power the headset's sensors. It's what I got going on now haha. (Sorry to reply to you on 2 servers now)

elder cave
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I just got a lightly used 980 ti from a friend for 225$

tidal wind
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Noice.

elder cave
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im hyped

white geode
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Right now I have a rtx 2070, do you guys think I should wait for the next rtx cards or upgrade now to a 2080?

lone pond
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wait just to see what the “super” cards are like

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And see their price points

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I mean you are in no rush because the RTX 2070 is still an amazing card

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@white geode

white geode
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Thanks. I'm trying to save up for a rift or hold out and save up for a new card.

lone pond
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👌I’d say you are good with the 2070 for a while

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what cpu do you have?

junior bough
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Could I get some opinions on the MSI rx vega 56? Is it worth buying over the rx 590, and what Cpu would be reccomended to go along side it?

obtuse spindle
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what's your budget?

junior bough
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around 900 dollars

obtuse spindle
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aight

oblique cypress
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for your pc

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or your gpu lol

junior bough
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For the pc

tribal tundra
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Currently looking at an RTX 2080 for a pc im about to be building. is it worth it or would i be better off getting something else that may be cheaper. I play games like cod/fortnite/overwatch and World of warcraft

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also my budget is around 2000 for everything including monitor/keyboard ext.

obtuse spindle
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alright, just a sec

cedar night
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I need opinions
GTX 1060 3GB Gigabyte Aorus USED ($75)
OR
GTX 1060 6GB Founders Edition NEW ($130)

obtuse spindle
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honestly?

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i'd go for a 580 8GB

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but a 1060 6GB for $130 is a steal

cedar night
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right

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but is there a significant difference between 3GB and 6 GB

obtuse spindle
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yes

junior bough
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Thank you

obtuse spindle
bright geyser
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gtx 1060 6gb

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def worth the 130$

obtuse spindle
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for sure

white geode
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@lone pond I5 9600k

lone pond
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I’d upgrade that first before you get a new video card

white geode
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epic

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which one do you recommend?

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an I7?

little slate
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Looking to do my first custom water loop, trying do decide on a gpu for it, going to be an rtx 2080 or 2080ti most likely, my question is should I just go for a cheaper card since I'll be pulling the cooler off it anyway, or are there some specific cards that are better for water cooling?

wraith pasture
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9. No e-begging, or selling on this server.

lone pond
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e beg

signal onyx
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I’ve got my old GTX 970 OC with only 6gb or 8gb of VRAM

obtuse spindle
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the 970 had 4GB tho

little slate
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3.5*

bright geyser
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3.5

chrome mason
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where should i look for a used 1070 ti?

echo kraken
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Ebay, craigslist, or hardwareswap subreddit

chrome mason
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thanks

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do you think 1080 would be better price wise?

echo kraken
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used 1070tis sell for like 270-280 rn and 1080s at ~300-330 depending on the model so yeah

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I'd go 1080 instead if you're going used 1070ti

granite juniper
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both are really bad to buy new

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you can get a 2060/70 for around the same price sometimes

chrome mason
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k, thanks

echo kraken
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he's not buying new, was talking about used

static haven
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1080 or 2080?

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Is the price worth it?

obtuse spindle
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1080's only really worth it if you can find it used for cheap tbh

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the 1080 and 2080 new are too close in price, there's no reason to not go with a 2080

static haven
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Whats the retail for 1080?

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And the 2080?

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Yeah thats what i was thinking too. Like a lot of people who bought the 1080 a few months before 2080 was released are selling them on ebay for a decent price.

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I might go for 1080 since this will be my first build

echo kraken
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He wasn't talking about new REEEEEEEee

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read my message and his before jumping into the conversation plox

little slate
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Anyone have any suggestions for what 2080 or 2080ti is best for water cooling?