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brittle heron
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That's a super plain looking case

jaunty jewel
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O. thats 60 bucks. very cheap.

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thank you kindly

brittle heron
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There are a few others if you'd like

jaunty jewel
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i want to build a pc eventually, what i want is a bare minimum vr ready system that would be less than 5000.

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yeah right,..

brittle heron
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Less than 5000

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Jeez

jaunty jewel
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IKR

brittle heron
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You could get literally anything with that

jaunty jewel
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thought vr graphic card are high end

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like 1000 +

brittle heron
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LIES

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Pretty much any midrange card can play VR

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In the $200+ range

jaunty jewel
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interesting ty so much,

brittle heron
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I could set up a quick parts list for you

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One sec

jaunty jewel
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i dont want you to have to do that.

brittle heron
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It's easy, and I'm avoiding homework lol

jaunty jewel
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Lol

sinful bobcat
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So... The RX 590 came out... Is that any good?

brittle heron
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It's between a 5-15% performance difference from the RX580 depending on the game, but way more expensive...

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I dunno if it's worth it

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Depends on the person really...

sinful bobcat
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Hmm how dose it compaire to the GTX cards?

brittle heron
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+10% average performance vs a 1060, and depending on the cooler it can overclock to be close to a stock 1070. I might consider one (RX590) if I go with an ultrawide, just for the small gains

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It's just kinda awkwardly priced at $280. I mean, you get 3 'free' games if you buy off of newegg, so that might justify the cost. (Devil May Cry, Division 2, Resident Evil 2)

fallen schooner
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those games are meh tho

brittle heron
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Yup, my thoughts exactly

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Personally I'd get an RX580 at the moment. You get to pick two of the three games if you get it from newegg and you can find them for $200 flat. Much better deal IMO

plush trellis
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You can also get an rx 580 by purchasing a Gigabyte motherboard from newegg ๐Ÿ˜‚ They sent me one instead of the z390 master motherboard that I ordered

fallen schooner
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lol?

plush trellis
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It was an interesting surprise

fallen schooner
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close enough

plush trellis
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I sent it right back

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I guess the dude working in shipping didn't know the difference

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Id have loved it if he mistakenly tossed me a 2080 ti ๐Ÿ˜

fallen schooner
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heh

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that's a silly mistake

plush trellis
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Yup but unfortunately it delayed completion of my build by a week

fallen schooner
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I bet

lone pond
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wouldnt an rx 580 be worth more

plush trellis
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No

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580 is $200

lone pond
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thats kind of dissapointing

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its been like over a week and my order still isnt here

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when its been marked delivered

plush trellis
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Yeah they didn't even want cross ship and send me the motherboard. Pretty crappy of them

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Call the delivery company

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I've had that happen

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Turns out they still had it and just marked it delivered

fallen schooner
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your fingers tripped

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drliveted

plush trellis
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Ah yeah it's swipe for iPhone

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Sometimes it messes up real bad

fallen schooner
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lol

sinful bobcat
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I'll take either if you're offering ๐Ÿ˜

lone pond
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I just ordered mine ๐Ÿ˜„

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Got a dead card from ebay so I decided to order the right way

sinful bobcat
lone pond
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Newegg ftw

valid crypt
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Got a GTX 1070 FTW from EVGA from Newegg Will Call

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amazeballs ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sinful bobcat
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And oldie, but a goodie

sturdy heath
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So I'm relatively new to the Discord, as in I joined a few weeks ago but haven't posted in here yet. Think I could ask a few questions in here?

thorn marsh
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Sure, shoot

fallen schooner
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That's what this chat is for ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

sturdy heath
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Looking to build me an all AMD system here soon (I was unemployed for a while but recently got a job that I start after New Year). Settled on a Ryzen 7 2700X and a Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard. Been eyeing the SAPPHIRE Radeon RX Vega 64 for a GPU, but it's a reference design card that I'm a bit eh on getting. Any other good cards out there? Doesn't have to be a Vega, a 580 will do. I'd be open to hearing some recommendations from Team Green too. Looking to keep it at or below $600 as well.

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I've been eyeing Gigabyte's AORUS RTX 2070

thorn marsh
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At the $600 budget, I'd say the 2070 is your best bet

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I had a blower Vega 56, it was horribly loud.

sturdy heath
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My preference would be an AMD card though, I want to see how they work with full GPUs, but the 2070...is very likely going to be my go-to. RGB FUSION and all

fallen schooner
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you dont like the blower style cooler is what you're saying?

thorn marsh
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Well, the reference ones are loud on the Vegas, the gigabyte version is horrible as well.

sturdy heath
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It's not my first choice for a cooler @fallen schooner

thorn marsh
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Looks like the only thing newegg offers is the strix which is almost 800 right now

fallen schooner
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sapphire nitro + special edition vega 56

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check it out ๐Ÿ˜‰

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that'll pair well with the 2700x

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would be a solid build.

thorn marsh
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On newegg at least, prices for Vega aren't very agreeable and there aren't many options. That Sapphire Nitro + is 723 for V56

sturdy heath
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Yeah, my motivation for that V64 was that it's essentially AT MSRP

thorn marsh
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At those prices, and if you really wanted AMD, the 580 or 590 would be the best bet

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MSRP for Vega has always been a loose term ๐Ÿ˜‰

sturdy heath
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I would say I'd be open to a 2080 but I think my reason why I'm not should be pretty clear considering the issues that card's had XD

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I've also looked at the MSI 2070

fallen schooner
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yeah

sturdy heath
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The Gaming Z I believe it is

thorn marsh
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Its a little too pricey, don't think you're going to find one for 600

fallen schooner
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I'd shy away from 20 series

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so many probs

thorn marsh
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I've had a 2080 and 2080ti so far with no problems

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As have many of my friends. The problem, while being widespread, isn't a big as the media would ahve you think.

sturdy heath
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@fallen schooner That's the reason why I've been looking at AMD. The Pascal prices are so freaking insane due to lack of stock and extremely high demand at present so I'm not really willing to go that route

thorn marsh
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As for your choice, its probably best to wait until you are ready to buy and decide then. Might get more Vegas in stock

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You can actually get 1070s for a decent price

sturdy heath
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Truthfully, Navi has had my attention for a while as has Zen 2's recent leaks, I'm just trying to look for options NOW if Navi ends up being another Vega and promising more than it actually delivers (not saying Vega's a bad card, I'd not be eyeing one if it was)

thorn marsh
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Navi is a way out still

fallen schooner
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I'm seeeing a ton of issues with the 20 series from Aorus

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seems like every day someone new hops in complaining abou tit

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@sturdy heath yeah I try to keep brands together. ๐Ÿ˜„

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intel/nvidia amd/rx

thorn marsh
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At least they are dying in warranty, my 480 and V56 not so lucky

fallen schooner
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as I sit here with a ryzen/1080 buiild lol

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only cause I won the card

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if not I'd still have and RX in it

sturdy heath
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I'm actually running a two year old $800 Dell gaming laptop right now, hence my interest in building a PC. Probably will sell this thing for a Surface at that point

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Only need a laptop really for taking notes in class

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I'm looking to go back to college

thorn marsh
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I have one of those 2500u laptops, those aren't bad at all. Walmart actually had one on sale the other day for $300

sturdy heath
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Speaking of Walmart, I'm aware I'm getting off topic here, so I'll keep it brief, I AM looking to go into comp sci, so having a dGPU would be nice. Been looking at an OVERPOWERED laptop the one with the 6GB 1060, but...it's a Walmart brand. Here I'm looking for desktop GPU questions obviously but I'll ask for better suggestions on that in a moment in the right channel XD

thorn marsh
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Walmart brand? Got a link?

sturdy heath
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Considering this is the graphics cards channel, I'll DM it to you, unless I can post it here?

thorn marsh
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I don't think anyone will mind

sturdy heath
thorn marsh
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Hmmm, I wonder who make that. Normally laptops like that are made by Clevo, but I don't recognize that chassis.

sturdy heath
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My assumption is that the SI would be the same people who did their desktops

thorn marsh
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One sec, that may be a clevo one, just newer

sturdy heath
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But the IO and specs for that price...is why I'm finding it hard to say no to that laptop

thorn marsh
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That is a good deal, if it performs well

sturdy heath
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A lot of the reviews on it say it performs better than the Helios 300, which is almost $200 more with equal specs

thorn marsh
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Its one of those ones I'd buy and test it. Walmart has a great return policy. My main concern would be thermals. The build quality is cheap, so if you go in expecting that, you might not be disappointed.

sturdy heath
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Actually it's in thermals I see at least 3 reviews saying it's better than the Helios in

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Apperently the Helios actually thermal throttles, this doesn't

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Acer apperently tried to focus more on performance, forcing you to have to undervolt the Helios 300, where Walmart did that at the factory

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I think it'll be one I'll take the gamble with. I have the $800 model for my Dell, so that's a 4c/4t i5-7300HQ and a 4GB 1050, both of which are beginning to struggle in games

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The OTHER reason that I plan to build the desktop. Which brings me back to my original question. What would be the best buy from both AMD and NVIDIA for under $600, then? I'm looking at either the V64 I mentioned earlier or the Sapphire Radeon NITRO+ RX 580 8GB , and for NVIDIA, the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming Z, or the EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC BLACK EDITION. Good choices to consider? I know EVGA is a pretty popular choice on NVIDIA's side of the lawn, and XFX and Sapphire on AMD's

thorn marsh
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From a price/perf perspective, the EVGA 2070 black is the best option. Vegas prices are too out of wack right now to consider. As for polaris, I'd go the 590 simply for the 3 game bundle

sturdy heath
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Oh yeah I'm also looking at XFX's RX 590

thorn marsh
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If going with the 590, I'd go with Sapphire, best customer support and much better looking GPU

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Just preference though

sturdy heath
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I'd go Sapphire but that blue shroud would be...very off in my all-black scheme. Unless they have a gunmetal or black shroud option now?

thorn marsh
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They are releasing a black one

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Should be for sale soonish

dawn pawn
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I'm going to wait for the 3060 3070 and 3080 series

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From AMD

sturdy heath
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Then I'll happily consider that as well

thorn marsh
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Got a long wait on those.

dawn pawn
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Didn't they say they'd be releasing those on January or was that the 2nd series Ryzen

thorn marsh
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They haven't given a release date on anything yet. As for releases, so far they have said that Epyc would be launching first, 7nm Vega for instinct, then consumer after that. According to a few tech outlets, Epyc isn't coming until Sep/Oct, so it could be a long wait.

dawn pawn
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Damn

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I saved up around $500 AUD for when they come out

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guess ill just have to wait

thorn marsh
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Yeah, going to be a minute. Though I do hope that desktop cpus come soon, I'm getting bored with this 8700k

dawn pawn
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I'm rocking a 1300x

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I really want an upgrade

fallen schooner
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1300x is a beast tho

rugged grove
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is rtx worth it?

fast swallow
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Not yet

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Maybe when they fix it in a year

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Or 2

hidden sequoia
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You can get used GTX 1080 Ti for like $600 on a site called mercari. I use it, more trustworthy than eBay IMO

fallen schooner
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wouldn't trust any used TI .

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honestly.

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but that's just me.

thorn marsh
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RTX is only worth it now cause the 1080ti is pretty solidly sold out.

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The 2070 isn't so bad.

hidden sequoia
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why not trust just the Ti versions of cards?

thorn marsh
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Hes referring to used 1080tis, which may have been used for mining.

lilac condor
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I just want to see AMD release a card comparable in price to a 1080 ti and in performance. I don't want to pay for RTX when I'm not even going to use it.

thorn marsh
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Think you mean AMD ๐Ÿ˜‰

lilac condor
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Yea. Wrong line of products.

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Do they have anything like that though? @thorn marsh

thorn marsh
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Not currently. Sometime in 2019 hopefully

lilac condor
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Hopefully. Is there no hope for Nvidia to release RTX Off 2070s?

thorn marsh
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Highly unlikely

lilac condor
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And no more GTX 1080s will be produced?

thorn marsh
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Nope

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Best bet if you're looking for that level of performance is to find a Vega 64

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Or one of the few remaining 1080s/1070tis (if thats your performance target)

lilac condor
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What would the cost difference be?

thorn marsh
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There was just a deal on a 1070ti today for like 325

lilac condor
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Shame. I've already ordered all my parts.

thorn marsh
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What did you order?

lilac condor
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i5 8600k, GTX 1070 ti and 16 GB of RAM.

thorn marsh
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Ah, well thats a solid setup

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You can also sell that Fortnite bundle on ebay for a good bit of money.

lilac condor
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Yea. That was what I was planning to do to finance an upgrade in the future.

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I got the Dell S2417DG on sale and I'm wondering what I should consider upgrading to get the most out of it.

thorn marsh
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The 1070ti will do pretty solidly on that monitor. The most I think you'd need for it in the near future is a 2080. 2080ti I think would be vastly overkill at 16:9 1440p. I have one I use for 3440x1440 and in some games its definitely not reaching its full potential.

lilac condor
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Thanks. Should I consider waiting until AMD releases something comparable in 2019?

thorn marsh
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I thnk you'll be fine on a 1070ti to wait for a while

lilac condor
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What should I consider upgrading in the future?

thorn marsh
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Depends on whats out. I wouldn't consider a 2070 if you're already on a 1070ti

lilac condor
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. Do you know if AMD is planning to release anything comparable to a GTX 1080 or GTX 1080 ti?

fallen schooner
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soon

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navi

lilac condor
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How soon?

misty swift
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it is forbidden

fallen schooner
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^

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I like my life.

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as a box.

lilac condor
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So no asking when navi comes out?

fallen schooner
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but I'll leave you this

misty swift
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NDA is strong

lilac condor
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What is NDA?

fallen schooner
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not dead afterall

misty swift
lilac condor
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So what does that mean for you?

fallen schooner
lilac condor
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Oh

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Sekrit

fallen schooner
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I have to tip toe around eggbot

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he like the ๐Ÿ—ก me

misty swift
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i cannot speak of things, it it forbidden

lilac condor
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Seriously?

fallen schooner
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That's not what you told me earlier in private message Denniso

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-o

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haha Denniso

misty swift
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now box.. those are private

fallen schooner
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I like it

misty swift
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bad box

lilac condor
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What is box

fallen schooner
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<-

lilac condor
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Oh you are box

misty swift
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for someone who seeks answers, has all the questions

lilac condor
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Oh

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So uh. What should I be asking?

fallen schooner
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I know a thing or two.

misty swift
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google is your friend

fallen schooner
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Because I've seen a thing or two

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we are newegg, ba dum ba dum dum dum.

misty swift
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or hardocp, hyperthermia toms hardware

lilac condor
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Thanks Dennis.

fallen schooner
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but yeah Im pretty hyped for navi

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mainly the price point

lilac condor
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I'm hyped because no RTX

fallen schooner
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rx3070 is going to be butter

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I'm sure they've cleaned up a lot since the vega mishap

lilac condor
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All the games that are announced for RTX aren't the games I'll play a lot.

misty swift
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i want amd to come back strong in vga like they are in cpu right now

lilac condor
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Wait. Is Ryzen good?

fallen schooner
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dude ryzen is awesome

lilac condor
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Does it have anything comparable to a i5 8600k?

fallen schooner
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for the dollar to performance ratio, it's untouchable

lilac condor
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I get it's cool but does it have stuff comparable.

fallen schooner
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yeah, get a r5 2600x

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if you just doing gaming.

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that's the money

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I'm not bias at all btw.

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I have both intel, and amd rigs here

lilac condor
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Where?

fallen schooner
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but for the price.. amd all the way

lilac condor
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I kinda regret getting Gysnc now.

fallen schooner
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my wife daughter have intel, me and my son have amd

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wife &

misty swift
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if money is no object nvidia will win natually, but bang for the buck fam builds amd all day

lilac condor
fallen schooner
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yep

misty swift
fallen schooner
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^

lilac condor
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Oh cool

misty swift
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yeah google is your friend here, just vs some items

lilac condor
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So which is cheaper?

fallen schooner
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amd

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by far

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ryzen โค

misty swift
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plus you get a heatsink ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

fallen schooner
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they aren't like the old amd's @lilac condor

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these are actually pretty amazing.

lilac condor
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I assume all AIOs are compatible with AMD chipsets

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Oh wait

fallen schooner
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if you've been living under a rock :p

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yes.

lilac condor
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I'll have to change my mobo

fallen schooner
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most AIOs have am4 (ryzen) brakets

lilac condor
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Seems like it'll cost a lot to move to AMD.

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But it seems like it's worth it because AMD is better?

fallen schooner
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I wouldn't say better

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but all you need to change is mobo/cpu

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everything else would still be good

fallen schooner
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I just saw that deal

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but yeah you can still use that.

misty swift
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mobo is cheaper under amd, monitor is cheaper under freesync

fallen schooner
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if you go with nvidia

misty swift
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if your upgrading anyway it makes sense if you figure in all the costs

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better is supjective though

lilac condor
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Wait. Mobo cheaper?

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How much?

fallen schooner
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but if you want to go full amd/gpu you'd need a freesync monitor, which is waaaay cheaper than g-sync

misty swift
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am4's are usually 30 or more cheaper

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second place works twice as hard..

lilac condor
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So I'll have to get a new monitor, new mobo, new CPU and new GPU to fully reap the benefits?

fallen schooner
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not necessarily

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you could go amd cpu, and still us nvidia gpu

lilac condor
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Oh wait yea

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But navi?

fallen schooner
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I have an ryzen 5 1600 with a gtx 1080

lilac condor
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All I want is to upgrade my GTX 1070 ti to fully use my monitor.

fallen schooner
lilac condor
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Nice fan grille.

fallen schooner
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1070ti will work great with that monitor

lilac condor
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Are you saying I'll get more than 90 FPS?

fallen schooner
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I think a 1070 Ti is enough depending on your CPU. Like Velocity said, it won't give you 144 FPS or more in every game but that is what Gsync is for.

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quoted*

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might not do it on you know max settings.

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but it'll def be up there.

lilac condor
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Okay. So if my monitor is fine.

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Shouldn't I just get an i7 instead of buying a new mobo?

fallen schooner
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you could.

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it's really what you want at the end of the day ๐Ÿ˜›

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seems you have a decent budget to go intel

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me Im cheapo

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and go amd

lilac condor
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Box you just said you had a GTX 1080

fallen schooner
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which I won.

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in a giveaway ๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
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Oh okay

fallen schooner
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if not I'd still have an rx 480 haha

lilac condor
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What's your CPU by chance?

fallen schooner
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ryzen 5 1600

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16gb@2667mhz oc'd

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msi b350 gaming pro

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crappy 32in omen 75hz monitor

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can pretty much run anything I throw at it

lilac condor
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I have a friend who is building a PC too. He has a GTX 970 already. Should he considering getting a AMD card?

fallen schooner
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you mean suggest an amd cpu?

lilac condor
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A graphics card

fallen schooner
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sorry Im tired lol

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well

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if her already has the 970

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he*

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kinda depends on friends budget and what he wants to do.

lilac condor
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Okay. Sorry if this has been already answered. Should he get something different from an i5 8600k?

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He just wants to game

fallen schooner
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depends on budget really, if he has 2k to burn... it would be a matter of preference ...

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but trying to save a dollar. amd

lilac condor
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But which AMD cpu?

fallen schooner
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no streaming?

lilac condor
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No streaming

fallen schooner
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I'd say a 1600x would be perfect

lilac condor
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Oo

fallen schooner
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not even the x

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all ryzen cpu are unlocked

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I have mine oc'd stable to 3.7ghz

lilac condor
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I GTG now. But I'll prob have more questions when I get back

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Thanks for helping box and @misty swift

fallen schooner
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ok, not sure what time zone you are but I'll most likely be asleep ๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
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NZST

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Good night then

lilac condor
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Is it possible to make a monitor free sync enabled when it has arrived?

misty swift
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i dont think you can add freesync or g-sync to monitors, it would likely be another circuit board..

lilac condor
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I thought freesync was software based?

hidden sequoia
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no

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u need a monitor that has the hardware in it to make it work

lilac condor
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I found this forum post and it talked about how it was able to do it on specific monitors.. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/freesync-now-works-with-non-freesync-monitors-with-cru.2488696/

hidden sequoia
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freesync is just cheaper and uses AMD

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G-Sync uses Nvidia

lilac condor
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Okay. I guess I'll just cell the current monitor I have when needed and get a freesync monitor when I need to.

hidden sequoia
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yea i would do that. This idea in the forum you posted is wrong. People are mixing up terms and thinking they are doing freesync when they really aren't

lilac condor
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Thanks for your help

hidden sequoia
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no problem

lone pond
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should i get a gpu next year after i get my graphics integrated ryzen 5

fast swallow
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Depends

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If you want a 1080ti

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You should buy it when you find one

lilac condor
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^^^

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Or wait for Navi

fast swallow
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They're so hard to find right now

lilac condor
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Or the 1100 series

fast swallow
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That's what I was gonna say

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Lol

lilac condor
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Navi or the 1100 series?

fast swallow
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AMD might have a good compitition card next year too

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All of it!

lilac condor
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I ordered my GTX 1070 ti a week ago. Pretty happy I did.

fast swallow
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Nice

lone pond
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is the 980 still good

lilac condor
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Yes

fast swallow
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If you just want to play games it is

lone pond
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i might snag that

fast swallow
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If you want full quality 1080p it's ok

lone pond
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are gaming laptops worth it

fast swallow
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Yes

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You can use an external screen too

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But

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Desktops will always be better

lone pond
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console peasants dont know what is a 1080

fast swallow
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Lol

lone pond
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well i dont like ps4

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but i could buy an xbox

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xbox has a decent gpu

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i meant one x or s

fast swallow
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X

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S isn't worth it

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You mine as well go all the way

#

Or nothing

lone pond
#

vr is dying

lilac condor
#

did i

#

HEAR

fast swallow
#

No

lilac condor
#

XBOX GRAPHICS

fast swallow
#

VR is on pause

lone pond
#

lmao

fallen schooner
#

did you really just suggest the 11 series @fast swallow

#

lol

#

wait for navi.

fast swallow
#

Lol

lone pond
#

windows 11

fast swallow
#

Box gets it

fallen schooner
#

I'm really excited for the navi cards

#

high performance on the cheap

lilac condor
#

@fallen schooner hyped me up too

#

Your the one who told me about them lol

fallen schooner
#

was I? ๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
#

Yea

fallen schooner
#

I don't remember half the stuff I say.

lone pond
#

gtx 2080ti SLI

but can it run newegg?

lilac condor
#

DFN I love it when Nvidia asks me to cough up a lot more money for a few more frames

lone pond
#

LMAO

#

call me c4

#

dfn is my team

#

xd

#

extra epic esports team

fast swallow
#

The 2080 can't SLI

lilac condor
#

^^^

fast swallow
#

It's bridge now

lone pond
#

@lilac condor RTX Titan chough chough

fallen schooner
#

might want to get that cough looked at

lone pond
#

i dont really know about rtx

#

rtx is far from my budget soo

#

portable workstations are doo doo

#

quadro is so expensive rn

#

buy a titan v and save 1500 bucks just for some frames

#

come on

#

like if you use a titan v it is way better and you can still game on it

#

quadro is poor and can be compared to midrange vega graphics

just quit quadro, buy a titan v or an rtx titan

fast swallow
#

I will say this

#

The Titan series is only good if you game and do CAD or alot of Adobe

#

Otherwise if you only primarily play games

#

The standard 1080 or 1070 work

#

You find a ti version then that would be great

#

The 20 series isn't worth it at all yet

#

They explode and games are not optimized for the new architecture

thorn marsh
#

Titan is only a smidge better in Adobe than a 2080ti, and about the same in CAD. Just benched them last night. Also, the 2080 can sli

fast swallow
#

Yeah and the Titan is super expensive compared

thorn marsh
#

Yes, Titans aren't really gaming cards anymore. With the Titan V Nvidia made Titans semi pro. These are much better for AI than the gtx cards

vivid lintel
#

@fast swallow Its NVLink

#

the 2080

fast swallow
#

Ah yes. My bad

#

Bridge is something else I work with so it popped up in my mind

lilac condor
#

Does it matter what PCIE slot you put your graphics card in if they are all 16x?

fallen schooner
#

nah

#

but kina

#

air flow and stuff

lilac condor
#

Thanks @fallen schooner I've connected my graphics card to my monitor via DP and the monitor can power on but a signal is not detected?

fast swallow
#

Did you plug it in?

#

;P

lilac condor
#

To what?

fast swallow
#

Power

lilac condor
#

Yes. It turns on

fast swallow
#

And press the power button

#

Ok

#

That's the first rule of IT

#

Ask the silly questions

#

Anyway

#

Try a different port

lilac condor
#

Wydm

#

On what?

fast swallow
#

On the graphics card

lilac condor
#

Oh I get it

#

I'll try

fast swallow
#

Sometimes they have numbers on them too

#

Normally number 1 and 3 power on

#

First

lilac condor
#

Doesn't detect

fast swallow
#

Is the monitor on the right connection?

#

Hit source

#

Once

lilac condor
#

Yes

#

It is on DP

fast swallow
#

Oh ok

#

First time powering on?

lilac condor
#

?

fast swallow
#

With this card

lilac condor
#

The first time it was on HDMI

fast swallow
#

Did it work?

lilac condor
#

I'm confused. The first time the monitor was on HDMI and it didn't work because I wasn't using HDMI

fast swallow
#

Oh sorry

#

The graphics card

#

Is this the first time using this card

lilac condor
#

Yes.

fast swallow
#

So the pci slot it is in hasn't been used before?

lilac condor
#

No it hasn't.

fast swallow
#

You may need to go into bios

#

And enable the slot

lilac condor
#

How do I go into bios?

#

When there is no signal to the monitor.

fast swallow
#

Has the PC ever worked before?

lilac condor
#

Worked as in?

#

For context this is my first build.

fast swallow
#

Seen the login screen

#

To windows

#

Or a splash screen

#

If not

lilac condor
#

I've seen the splash screen of the monitor manufacturer which is Dell

fast swallow
#

You may need to put the graphics card on the far top x16 slot

lilac condor
#

That's what I have it in.

fast swallow
#

Ok

#

Then there is an integrated graphics?

lilac condor
#

There is I think. I'm using an i5-8600k

fast swallow
#

Try plugging in the integrated graphics port

#

Get to bios

lilac condor
#

How do I get to the bios

fast swallow
#

And enable pci slot

#

F12

#

At boot

#

Keep pressing it

lilac condor
#

Wait what

#

But there isn't any signal

#

Oh wait

#

I get it

fast swallow
#

K

lilac condor
#

So how do I plug in the Integrated Graphics Port?

fast swallow
#

Move the cable from the graphics card to the motherboard

fallen schooner
#

what gpu do you have?

lilac condor
#

I have a GTX 1070 ti

fallen schooner
#

you have the power ran to it? on the card itself

lilac condor
#

@fast swallow Did that

#

Yes. I'll double check

#

Yes I have two 8 pin PCIE cables running to it.

#

Does it matter that they're too seperate cables?

fallen schooner
#

how long have you waited when turning it on getting a signal?

#

no

lilac condor
#

And that they have stuff splitting off them?

fallen schooner
#

does not matter

#

well

lilac condor
#

What do you mean by turning it on getting now signal?

fallen schooner
#

mistype

#

like when you turn on the pc

#

how long do you let it sit

#

did the card give you signal before?

lilac condor
#

No for context this is my first build

fallen schooner
#

hrm ok.

#

can you show me pics

lilac condor
#

It takes 6 seconds to display no signal

fallen schooner
#

or everything

lilac condor
#

Sure

fallen schooner
#

wiring routes.

#

psu

#

all the things

#

I just feel your gpu isn't being powered

#

or monitor, I would try what reaper suggested plugging the hdmi into the mobo HDMI

lilac condor
#

I don't have HDMI

fallen schooner
#

to see if your integrated graphics comes up

#

but you said you swapped it with the DP.

lilac condor
#

No. From source

fallen schooner
#

oh

#

I read that wrong

#

lol

lilac condor
#

I'll go take pictures now

fallen schooner
#

My brain is tired

#

lol

lilac condor
#

Would you like a picture of the back too?

#

@fallen schooner

fallen schooner
#

show me the heads of those wires connected to gpu

lilac condor
#

Like the tops?

fallen schooner
#

the side

#

you can probably do away with one run

#

and use one wire, that has two ends on it

lilac condor
#

I tried that before and it didn't work

#

Which is why I tried two wires

fallen schooner
#

do they say pci or vga on the side

lilac condor
#

PCOe

#

PCIe

fallen schooner
#

connected to the pci ports on the psu I assume?

lilac condor
#

Yes.

#

They're keyed right?

fallen schooner
#

labeled

#

I mean the only thing I can think of is the card was DOA

#

evga is good about RMAs

#

or if you have a friend with a pc, take it over and try on their pc.

lilac condor
#

How can I try use intergrated graphics?

fallen schooner
#

plugged into the back of the mobo IO

#

should say HDMI

#

which mobo?

lilac condor
#

Z370 Prime-A II

#

I can't use DP?

#

Or does it have to be HDMI

fallen schooner
#

oh it has dvi

#

er

#

yeah, it s has all three

#

dvi, hdmi and dp

lilac condor
#

Wait so what does it have to be?

fallen schooner
#

use the DP cable you have now

lilac condor
#

Okay

fallen schooner
lilac condor
#

Tried doesn't work

fallen schooner
#

displayport 1.2

fast swallow
#

try reseating your RAM

#

no joke

fallen schooner
#

^

fast swallow
#

remove the RAM

fallen schooner
#

swap em

fast swallow
#

then slowly

#

slowly

fallen schooner
#

<--->

fast swallow
#

put them back in

lilac condor
#

@fallen schooner Swap what?

#

I'll try reaper

fallen schooner
#

yeah if you aren't getting output from mobo DP something is wrong

#

monitor turned on? ๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
#

Yes monitor is on

#

I can press the buttons and get a resposne

#

I know the mobo is getting power too

#

Because I can see it light up

fallen schooner
#

have you just let it run for like 10mins

lilac condor
#

Not continuiously

fallen schooner
#

do that.

lilac condor
#

Okay

fallen schooner
#

but do what reaper said with the ram

lilac condor
#

Do EVGA Cards with LED light up when powerd?

#

I did

fast swallow
#

yes

fallen schooner
#

yeah

fast swallow
#

all LED's light up no matter what on post

fallen schooner
#

is the gpu seated all the way?

#

double check all the things.

lilac condor
#

Oh um

#

I'm using an EVGA FTW 2 card for reference

#

And the leds on EVGA logo do not light up

#

Does that mean the GPU isn't in?

fallen schooner
#

could be throwing off why the mobo IO wasn't giving you a signal

#

pull the card out completely and try

lilac condor
#

Okay

fast swallow
#

also don't do any heavy breathing on the graphics card

#

I know it's cool and all

fallen schooner
#

lol what

fast swallow
#

but drool doesn't mix well with electronics

fallen schooner
#

condensation!

fast swallow
#

lol

lilac condor
#

I took out the card and no signal @fallen schooner

#

Also bracket that holds the card is broken now

#

Nevermind just need to attach it back

fallen schooner
#

wait what

lilac condor
#

?

#

Friend saw me and tried to rip out the card

#

He did and the bracket came out

#

All in one piece

fallen schooner
#

what bracket..

#

to the mobo?

lilac condor
#

Like the thing

#

That hold it in

fallen schooner
#

the pci-e slot?

fast swallow
#

lol

lilac condor
#

Yes

fast swallow
#

sounds like that

fallen schooner
#

I have this horrible imagine

#

dude

#

you just toasted your mobo

#

please slap said friend.

lilac condor
#

How did I?

fast swallow
#

you should never force parts

lilac condor
#

Or how did it it toast

fallen schooner
#

you ripped out the psi-e slot?

#

like

lilac condor
#

Lol no

fallen schooner
#

the actual slot the gpu goes into

#

lol

#

please

lilac condor
#

So you know how with ram slots

#

You have this arm thing

fallen schooner
#

I need a picture of said bracket

lilac condor
#

Which goes into place

#

That broke off

fallen schooner
#

yeah thats the locking mechanism.

#

that keeps it from falling out...

lilac condor
#

Yea

#

It came off as one piece.

#

And it looks like I can just reattach it

fallen schooner
#

you push it down towards the mobo to release the stick

lilac condor
#

I know

fallen schooner
#

please have "friend" not touch PC.

#

he needs to sit on his hands.

#

๐Ÿ˜„

lilac condor
#

Yea. How 2 put locking mechanism back?

fallen schooner
#

uh

#

RMA

#

๐Ÿ˜

#

I've never broke one off so I can't really say.

#

@fast swallow ?

fast swallow
#

I have no clue myself

fallen schooner
#

but with what I feel, I think something is fried.

lilac condor
#

Because it got broke off?

#

Top slot

fallen schooner
#

thats the pci-e, not ram slot

lilac condor
#

I was using it as

#

An

fallen schooner
#

lol eggbot

lilac condor
#

Um

fallen schooner
#

yeah

#

he is stupid

#

dont mind him

fast swallow
#

eggbot strong in the filtering

fallen schooner
#

๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
#

Oh

fallen schooner
#

lolol

fast swallow
#

might not want to keep doing it though

#

idk if there is an autokick or not lol

lilac condor
#

Good idea

fallen schooner
#

try a different word ๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
#

I was using it as an

#

Ana

#

LOoo

#

Gy

fallen schooner
#

HAAHHA

#

got it

lilac condor
#

๐Ÿคฃ

fallen schooner
#

you can't say buttology

#

but you know..

lilac condor
#

๐Ÿฅ‰

fallen schooner
#

that is hilarious

#

@sinful bobcat please to fix

#

a n a l o g y

#

bot to stronk

lilac condor
#

Um

#

So what do I do

fallen schooner
#

ok so now card is out, plug DP into the back of mobo

lilac condor
#

Will the lights on the GPU automatically light up

fallen schooner
#

and wait

lilac condor
#

Already tried

fallen schooner
#

I Really not sure man...

sinful bobcat
#

Lol. I'm guessing the bot didn't like the first 4 letters in that word lol

fallen schooner
#

the way thing are going I'm guess the mobo is dead

lilac condor
#

What word? @sinful bobcat

fallen schooner
#

you mean a n a l

lilac condor
#

The mobo isn't dead box

sinful bobcat
#

Yup

fallen schooner
#

๐Ÿ˜›

lilac condor
#

It lights up

fallen schooner
#

but it's not giving you a signal to the monitor

#

from the mobo.

lilac condor
#

Oh

sinful bobcat
#

Lol thanks Box, I'm not home but Ill fix it when I can ๐Ÿป

fallen schooner
#

or the ram is bad

#

try one stick

#

furthest away slot from cpu

lilac condor
#

Why would ram affect signal but okay

fallen schooner
#

or its closest to cpu, I can't remember

lilac condor
#

Should I try no RAM?

fallen schooner
#

lol you funny

lilac condor
#

Wait so yes or no

#

Because that was a serious question

fallen schooner
#

yes ram, it has to have ram :d

#

is the cpu in the mobo?

#

serious question.

#

the shiny silver square.

lilac condor
#

Yes

#

It's kinda obsucred though

fallen schooner
#

12v rail is connected to mobo as well?

lilac condor
#

?

#

Which one is that

fallen schooner
#

pribably 8pin?

#

it varies from board

lilac condor
#

Yes

#

There is an 8 pin connected

fallen schooner
#

top left

lilac condor
#

Yes

#

I've plugged that

#

@fallen schooner So what should I do?

fallen schooner
#

well if you get no signal from the mobo while the graphics card is out...

#

and you've tried 1 stick of ram in the #1 slot

#

RMA the mobo is your only other option.

lilac condor
#

Okay

#

RMA

lilac condor
#

@fallen schooner So uh, do EVGA FTW2 cards with LEDs light up when turned on or do they need to be configured?

fallen schooner
#

the light up like reaper said.

lilac condor
#

They light up? @fallen schooner

#

IF so then it's broken

#

Because it doesn't work

fallen schooner
#

I suggest testing it in another pc before making that conclusion

lilac condor
#

Okay

#

Good idea parya

fallen schooner
#

like I said I think that board is wrecked

lilac condor
#

I'll go over to my "friend"

#

And ask him

fallen schooner
#

dont let him touch it :p

lilac condor
#

Yea. I don't trust him anymore

#

Oh yea and the thing got put back in though @fallen schooner

#

So it's fixed

fallen schooner
#

nice

lilac condor
#

@fast swallow Your right. I was just breathing too hard

#

/s

lone pond
fallen schooner
#

nah probably a miners rig. has has stars.

lone pond
#

Guys

#

Can a 560 run rocket league and fortnite high settings with a ryzen 7 1700

keen radish
#

maybe?

#

I'm unsure

fallen schooner
#

I'm sure there are studies on it

#

would just have to search.

keen radish
#

I'm not too familiar with those games but I know they don't take much

fallen schooner
#

dang near benchmarks for every setup now.

keen radish
#

I'd get a more recent card tho

fallen schooner
#

think there is a 580 on neweggflash right now for dirt cheap

lone pond
#

100+ or 50+

#

Max for me is 110

lone pond
#

Wait

#

So

#

I get a 100 buck card for free to spend on amd

#

If yes then instant buy

#

Because i get 50% off my cpu

lone pond
#

YES
OMG

#

newegg ships to my country YEET

lone pond
#

I cant see the seller on mobile

#

Someone tell me his info

misty swift
lone pond
#

apr 8 2008

#

Sounds legit

#

Like really

misty swift
#

that pic though ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

lone pond
#

Im serious

#

It looks like a legit seller

#

Not a bot

fallen schooner
#

most likely a hacked account

#

I wouldn't try buying that 1080ti.

#

shipping from AZ.

#

lol

lone pond
#

So should i get a 1070ti or an rx 570?

fallen schooner
#

you can get whatever you want, just don't get suckered into that 1080ti

#

if it's to good to be true, it usually is.

lone pond
#

IMPORTANT:
Should i get RX580 is November and get 4gb of ram
Or VEGA 56 in December and no ram
Or VEGA 64 in next January and no ram

river totem
#

How would you use a pc without ram

lone pond
#

lol

#

i have 8gb

#

but i want 12gb

river totem
#

Iโ€™d recommend 56

#

Since it works really well with 8gigs of ram

lone pond
#

56 instead of rx 590?

misty swift
#

Radeon 7 launches on Feb 7

#

if it were me, i would wait till at least launch, see what the benchmarks are, usually as a new card enters, the older cards get more competitive with pricing.

lone pond
#

700 bucks? id buy a 2070 with that

but i couldnt afford both, so rip i guess

lone pond
lone pond
#

2070ti LOLLOLL

west raptor
#

gtx 1660ti

#

lol

lone pond
#

haha

west raptor
#

the plastic looks cheep

fallen schooner
#

It does doesn't it.

#

lol

lone pond
#

lol im getting vega 64 anyway

#

done with all of this

#

maybe getting 2060 who knows

strange river
#

as a canadian it is my duty to inform people here that i am forever jealous of those who live in countries that use actual, non-monopoly money

wispy oak
#

'Merica!

#

lol

#

I have 2 dollars on 1 bill

strange river
#

I'm thankful for tax refunds otherwise upgrading some of the older stuff in this machine would be next to impossible

wispy oak
#

I hear ya, this years tax refund didn't go to gaming for me though but I already have a half decent rig so I figured I'll save for BF and CM this year, though you're Canadian so you guys don't celebrate that right, you guys have boxing day or something like that I think O.o

strange river
#

Nah we do Black Friday here

#

it's just FAR more muted

#

although boxing day is a bigger deal yeah

wispy oak
#

oh you guys do? well that's probably why, here in the US it's a crazy night though I think it has died off more recently, maybe more online sales so not as many people go to the actual physical stores as much as before.

tight tapir
#

Hey! I just received my Lenovo gaming desktop (item number: N82E16883998644 ) The plan was to use it as a machine for replay in vMix. Based on the pictures I was expecting there to be at least one available PCIe lane. But upon opening the case it looks like the only PCIe lanes on the motherboard are being used by the GPU. The computer came with an optical drive that I donโ€™t need which is connected to the motherboard by a SATA III cable. So, is there some sort of adapter(s) or cable(s) that would allow me to get another PCIe lane and plug it into the motherboard via the SATA III connector that is currently being used by the optical drive?

fast swallow
#

Not a good idea

tight tapir
#

Oh, I forgot to mention that what I want to connect via PCIe is a Blackmagic Design Decklink Duo card. It takes 4x.

#

Thanks, @fast swallow

#

What are the issues you see?

fast swallow
#

It's not the same interface

#

There is a 99% chance you have alot of issues

#

Including the fact that a pci slot provides power of some amount

#

And a SATA does not

#

Is there really no room?

#

Most motherboards have 1 16x, 1 8x, and 2 4x

#

If there is a port you could always get a ribbon cable for the port

tight tapir
#

Thanks for that info!

fast swallow
#

"extension cable"

#

Pci extension cables are common and help when a graphics card is in the way

tight tapir
#

I was surprised too when I didnโ€™t see more lanes. Iโ€™ll keep looking. Is it possible there is an open lane hidden behind the gpu?

fast swallow
#

Yes

tight tapir
#

Gotcha.

fast swallow
#

Underneath

tight tapir
#

Ok! I will look.

#

Really appreciate the help!

fast swallow
#

Np

tight tapir
#

There is only one lane! Just for the GPU. Nothing underneath the GPU.

#

Gonna have to send it back.

fast swallow
#

I'd use Lenovo customer service

#

Call/message them

tight tapir
#

On the phone with them now

fast swallow
#

If you bought it from Lenovo directly

#

Ok

tight tapir
#

I got it from Newegg

fast swallow
#

They might not help then

#

May need to return to Newegg

tight tapir
#

Yeah, I mostly wanted to confirm that I wasnโ€™t just blind. They confirmed that motherboard has only one PCIe lane.

scarlet sluice
#

I'm looking to update my computer I built back in 2015. I need to replace an AMD FX-8320E and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti. Can I replace both of those with a GeForce GTX 1660 Ti and an AMD Ryzen 7 or will I need to worry about replacing the motherboard and memory because I am upgrading those two systems?

#

8GB installed RAM

#

What could I get to ensure best preformance? I don't want to upgrade so much that it would be easier to just buy a new computer

#

like a corsair vengeance?

#

oui

#

can i find that in system information? its been so long since i put it together i think its a DDR3

#

like around 700-800 no more

#

total haha

#

2 i think

#

yes

#

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so a corsair vengeance LPX 16gb (2x8gb) should do the trick just fine?

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I was hoping to avoid that

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thanks for the help

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of course

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still appreciate it though

fallen schooner
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if he has a FX-8320E he is using ddr3

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if he wants ryzen he will have to purchase an AM4 socket motherboard along with ddr4 ram.

tiny olive
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Look up ur Board maker and check compatibility.

scarlet sluice
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So I have my list of things I think I am going to get. Is anybody willing to look through to make sure it will all work together well?

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MSI x470 motherboard
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Windforce
Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x8GB)
AMD Ryzen 5 2600
all of these things are within my budget to get. Will these run well together?

molten hinge
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@scarlet sluice all good, however if i may suggest, only if you want to do VR or 4k tho, spending the extra 100$ for the 2060 will be well worth it. i also belive the card will keep better resell value.

lone pond
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i think he left

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big oof

shut oak
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Any one know where I can find an ACARD AEC-6280M PCI IDE Controller Card For Mac or equivelent?

fast swallow
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Is this what you're looking for?

shut oak
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Yes! But alas its "out of stock".

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I need a similar or equal to for my old Power Mac G4 Digital Audio 466MHz OS9/OS X 10.4 machine.

patent vale
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hello I could use some guidence

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i am looking at getting a external graphics card adaptor for my lap top but don't know what graphics card is compatible with my computer

fallen schooner
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your laptop has to have the thunderbolt port

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if I'm not mistaken.

fast swallow
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Or 2 USB 3.1 ports

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Depends on the adapter

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But USB c is the new stuff

alpine plinth
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Im not sure if what my problem with my pc is but. i have a gtx 1050 ti and a fx 8350 with ddr3 8gb ram. my computer when im playing some "high stress games" my fps will drop from anywhere from 15-30 for about 15 seconds and also during that time my Mouse dpi changes from 1000 to like 100(Its what it feels like atleast) I have changed motherboards and power supplys and this system was working fine for over a month before it started doing this. i have checked my drivers so now im kinda lost, I got on to overwatch and when i get my problems i see that my latency goes up so is it my wifi thats causing my problems?

sour geode
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@alpine plinth have you tried turning it off and on again?

compact nexus
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Honestly probably the 8350 with 8GB of ram.

alpine plinth
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@sour geode this has bin a problem for the last month ish

atomic marsh
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What is your heat like on your cpu and gpu during these stutters?

unreal tulip
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Try plugging in an Ethernet cable and see if it goes away

alpine plinth
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cpu mid 50's

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@unreal tulip i am

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gpu 40s i think

digital marsh
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Have you run a memory test to see if your ram's gone bad?

sour geode
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Try cleaning your pc clearly and see if it helps

unreal tulip
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If the temps are fine I doubt a dirty pc is the culprit

sour geode
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True but who knows, it might be the issue

unreal tulip
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You can also change your power settings to performance.

alpine plinth
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okay

unreal tulip
wet briar
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i use system mechanic, and did a factory reset when i have issues like that. But if it affecting your gaming that much id lower your quality till you get a smooth 60 fps.

lone pond
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So, I have a question, I am planning on ordering this:

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Is it going to be a bottleneck with an FX 8350 on the Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P mobo?

compact nexus
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Probaby

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The mobo/CPU, not the GPU

fallen schooner
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Do you plan on upgrading the cpu/mobo soon?

wraith pasture
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FX-8350 will bottle neck that card

fallen schooner
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and what do you have now?

lone pond
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the cpu/mobo were an upgrade

fallen schooner
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gpu wise

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oh

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yeah

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definetely will see bottleneck

lone pond
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I have an RX550 4GB

fallen schooner
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I would spend thast 220 on a new mobo cpu ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Ryzen Athlon is 60+ usd

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if you just game, it'd be perfect.

lone pond
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If I do that, then I have to upgrade the RAM as well, I am on DDR3 right now....

fallen schooner
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correct.

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8gb ddr4 is around 40 bucks

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it's getting really affordable now.

lone pond
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I want to get the 2600X I have a friend who plays the same things as me that has one and it is awesome I just don't seem to find the funds to get all of that plus the graphics card I know I will need

fallen schooner
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I'd wait honestly.

wraith pasture
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3000 series on the horizon

fallen schooner
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Ryzen 3k is right around the corner.

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and it will be bliss.

wraith pasture
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2000s will drop in price soon enough

fallen schooner
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^ that

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also

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plus everyone moving to 3k will flood ebay with ryzen cpu

lone pond
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gasp you want me to shop ebay???

dreamy haven
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fleabay

fallen schooner
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I didn't say that.

lone pond
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didn't think so ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

fallen schooner
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I was just stating a uh, yeah.