#Limbus Company
sonic verge
glad crag
Yo
Limbus stream
Even the dev is watching this
KJH Told the team to watch the stream instead of just having a meeting
Watch this for a live translation
But it seems like we're getting a new gameplay mode
tulip pulsar
I just want to sleep damnit
glad crag
But it seems like we're getting a new gameplay mode
KJH wanted to make a new gamemode that rewards you for having alot of ids
Since people just use MD to farm shard
He came to this idea due to the fact that he gets ids and ego through gacha not MD so he doesn't have any reason to play MD unlike most people
Apparently the new game mode rewards is based on the amount of fights you do, not the length of the run
Translated Google doc for the stream
errant hare
IDENTITY SKINSSS RAHHHHHHHh
tulip pulsar
Even the dev is watching this
oooO now i understand, the developers are just like us, wondering whats going on
glad crag
Probably to make it easier
Cuz having a meeting with them and then a stream to repeat what you just said in the meeting is a bit annoying ngl
sonic verge
Oh no, swimsuit skin
Mircalla skin, trust me
silent herald
IDENTITY SKINSSS RAHHHHHHHh
Surely this is a mistranslation and it's the "wear Remnant Faust ID as visual on Mao Faust" as they mentioned a year ago
KJH already showed hot it works
errant hare
oh, yeah
silent herald
And they have been working for a long time on it
sonic verge
Surely this is a mistranslation and it's the "wear Remnant Faust ID as visual on...
Ok, can we get EGO sprites as skins
sonic verge
silent herald
Ok, can we get EGO sprites as skins
THIS
glad crag
Ok, can we get EGO sprites as skins
On god i will shard contempt awe just to get that looks
silent herald
that they might do things that are JUST skins
Oh, ok, haven't watched stream, so it's a good way for them to monetize the game
silent herald
Would AK EGO count
They said it's for IDs, but I can see them making EGO working too, if people ask
errant hare
since dullahan
sonic verge
they did also say that the more unique ones wont be usable for now
Understandable
silent herald
KJH wanted to make a new gamemode that rewards you for having alot of ids
Finally that new game mode he was talking about, in the past it was just boss rush 
sonic verge
New game mode will be a rouge like it seems
So it's just a survive as much as possible
PREGOR UPSCALE
glad crag
Finally that new game mode he was talking about, in the past it was just boss ru...
All ids will be max level and ut4 it seems?
sonic verge
In tanking we trust!
glad crag
But you'll be getting the ids at random
tulip pulsar
He might take a 1 week break
tight delta
so 2 intervallos heh
errant hare
also you dont get to like
tight delta
silent herald
But you'll be getting the ids at random
So it's that AK game mode?
sonic verge
so 2 intervallos heh
As usual
glad crag
Ye
errant hare
there's no turns
sonic verge
Finally, a gacha endgame mode without a turn counter
glad crag
sonic verge
FINALLY!
glad crag
Layout supposed to be like this
silent herald
Finally, a gacha endgame mode without a turn counter
sonic verge
Hello?
sonic verge
It's dead end
Goodbye
silent herald
Hello
sonic verge
Goodnight
silent herald
HELLO
sonic verge
I'm here
silent herald
sonic verge
Stop singing TPOV
I was actually citing Nothing There, but then I got an idea most ingenious
errant hare
Here we are, it's our final chance
glad crag
Futa Nothing There
sonic verge
Bro
glad crag
: Argalers:
silent herald
Futa Nothing There
errant hare
Futa Nothing There
can you not
genuinely
it makes people uncomfortable
it's me, i'm people
glad crag
Narii
errant hare
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIIIIIIIDING
silent herald
-# is my thirst for normalcy odd?
I've been on the internet for too long, so I don't care
glad crag
-# is my thirst for normalcy odd?
Yes since you like Don stinky gripper
errant hare
i dont
silent herald
Also
errant hare
I've been on the internet for too long, so I don't care
i mean, ive been on the internet for a while too, its just like
why are we talking about it here
silent herald
It's funny that their meeting is just: hey guys, watch the stream, I'll be talking about it there
errant hare
omg guys
silent herald
why are we talking about it here
C likes it, smh, don't kink shame
errant hare
director just namedropped the game
silent herald
They've been talking about it for a long time
Last time he said they need more people
And understandable
tulip pulsar
o7, goodluck to the developers, make limbus a game engine
errant hare
gonna be the pm launcher or smth
tulip pulsar
its past 3am for me
tulip pulsar
lmao translator saying they gonna translate later cause he is yappin 
silent herald
The dev is already crying from the upcoming workloads
Well it's smart to have sub stories on Limbus engine
glad crag
lmao translator saying they gonna translate later cause he is yappin <:WLUL:1008...
They let him cook so much he has locked everyone out of the kitchen
sonic verge
They let him cook so much he has locked everyone out of the kitchen
He set the kitchen on fire, truly a burn season
tulip pulsar
Reincarnted as a dishawasher and fya 8a yfe8y
errant hare
no way hes making isekai-level names bro
glad crag
"Please Director, stop making up new ideas. Our engine is kinda homeless."
sonic verge
you know what, KJH, drop the City MMO
The classes are:
- Depressed office worker
- Depressed wing worker
- Grade 9 Fixer of some dead end association
- Cannibal chef
- Rat
tulip pulsar
Hey guys, is this a dream, im I already asleep
sonic verge
Hey guys, is this a dream, im I already asleep
Bro, the dream has already ended
sonic verge
The plot in question
tulip pulsar
im going to bbed, unless im already asleep and this was all a dream
sonic verge
No Roadmap for you
They'll make one after the employees stop screaming from the impending workload
errant hare
No Roadmap for you
he literally said
that the roadmap
would be mid february
it is currently not february
sonic verge
would be mid february
Damn, they scream a lot
glad crag
Yes, that's why it's S tier ragebait
sonic verge
Smh, can't believe our director would let us down like that
sonic verge
I want at least 2600 apolunacy for this
sonic verge
Cause it's peak
errant hare
it is
thats the thing
sora just vibing and then 👍 before being obliterated from existence
glad crag
errant hare
impossible
silent herald
You don't deserve her, smh
sonic verge
I'm wondering something
How many years prior to the current story is the Smoke War?
Cause Valencina took part in it right? But when Ryoshu was born she was already a Nursefather, does this mean she took part in the war even after being demoted by the Thumb?
glad crag
I'm wondering something
How many years prior to the current story is the Smoke W...
Probably 5 years
Considering Roland was part of it before joining Charles office
He's 33 during LoR btw
silent herald
Cause Valencina took part in it right? But when Ryoshu was born she was already ...
The timeline either effed up, or House of Spiders was/is using T corp tech, like vaults we saw
sonic verge
The timeline either effed up, or House of Spiders was/is using T corp tech, like...
It's actually in another dimension, trust
That's why time is different
silent herald
It's actually in another dimension, trust
Probably they use T corp tech. Biggest support for this theory is when Rien tried to fish out how much time have passed from Lei Heng, saying was it 3 years since Lei came here to teach Ryoshu and he started to say more like 5, and cut himself there
sonic verge
Mmmh, yeah that was strange
silent herald
Also some nursefather said they were there for 20 years iirc or something
sonic verge
It would make sense
sonic verge
Also some nursefather said they were there for 20 years iirc or something
I mean, they supposedly were there for the entirety of Ryoshu's growth
So like, what, 25-26 years?
sonic verge
She's actually 3 years old in A corp time
sonic verge
You have 200+ y/o Don and 3 y/o Ryoshu
Truly the most normal bus of gremlins in the City
sonic verge
Wait, if Araya was made outside the House of Spiders, and the HoS has this T corp tech, does it mean that Araya is older than Ryoshu as far as the Head is concerned?
sonic verge
Smoke wars supposed to be a long time ago
I think it's 10 something years
silent herald
Wait, if Araya was made outside the House of Spiders, and the HoS has this T cor...
Totally can be
glad crag
sonic verge
Totally can be
If Roland is between 30-40, it would mean he took place in it in his 20s
Similar for Gregor and Outis I think
silent herald
If Roland is between 30-40, it would mean he took place in it in his 20s
Some said he is 32 or 33
Dunno where that info comes from
glad crag
LoR he's 33
Tiphereth said she's older than him
sonic verge
I mean, isn't Tiph and the other Sephirah technically very old cause time shenanigans?
silent herald
If that is the case, she can't be older than him
Literally they found them as kids
And not long after head raided the lab in the outskirts
sonic verge
Yeah, I think their age is their human one + Sephirah one
silent herald
So Ayin made his friends live as robots, plus used Smoke wars to establish L corp
sonic verge
Or just their Sephirah one
silent herald
Yeah, I think their age is their human one + Sephirah one
Yeah, simple as that
Plus all the loops
They count that as years too
Just like Angela
Also, I don't know the source, but people say it was 10 years prior to Limbus
Smoke war
sonic verge
That would make the most sense to me tbh
Not too near, but not too far
Sinclair would be 10-11 at the time ao ofc he doesn't know that much of the horrors of the war, especially because he was somewhat wealthy
Gregor and Outis would be in their 20-30s, which is believable, considering apparently Gregor got his argumentations at 16
silent herald
And if we take that as a fact, it's pretty much concluded that House is Spiders is using T corp tech to mess up time, so 20 years could've passed, outside of corridors of HoS the time went as usual ofc, that's why we have Lei Heng scene with Rien, they left the House once, when Dias contacted them.
sonic verge
If we take Rien's 3 years as how much time passed inside, we can actually calculate the time difference
sonic verge
1.6 times faster
sonic verge
Or that was just a random number
Yeah, this is assuming that Rien didn't say a random number
sonic verge
1.6 times faster
But that's still not enough
Cause Ryoshu would have been born 16.25 years ago in nornal time for her to be 26 in the HoS
@silent herald Imo, the most probable time ratio is 1:3
One year outside is 3 inside
It means that Ryoshu would have been born 8.6 years prior to the present
Assuming the Smoke was was 10 years ago, Valencia had about 1 year and a half to take part in the war, getting promoted, getting demoted (3 days later lmao ) and finally getting sent to the HoS
sonic verge
<@404295242465148930> Imo, the most probable time ratio is 1:3
1:4 is actually probably even better
@silent herald
So much so for assumptions
We just needed to read
silent herald
<@404295242465148930>
Yeah, I read that, but I didn't scroll to the bottom and I forgot who mentioned it
My memory is shit
So smoke was was in year 947
sonic verge
Well, that's when it ended
silent herald
Oh, right
silent herald
A year I would think
sonic verge
Anywhere between 2 to 5 years would make sense
sonic verge
A year I would think
You think? Idk, it seems too short
silent herald
I mean... Fixers, R corp, Dias with her Udjat, G corp, all kinds of forces participated
Would make sense to end it fast and make a deal with Lobotomy corp for that sweet energy
On good terms
Also in process ef up fixers with that wing living permit, F Roland
Current year is 985
So house of spiders was operational for at least 28 years
No one said that Valencina getting demoted was sent to HoS immediately
Iirc
sonic verge
All of this would make the Prescripts having Rien cosplay as Roland a bit more understandable, cause before it seemed like they wanted him to cosplay as the future version of someone who was either not eveb born or barely a kid
silent herald
Yes, he was already a fixer
sonic verge
silent herald
https://youtu.be/Y6kNbruBH_Y?si=cfh9Lp0fZV08_hcv
Wait, there are people calling this EGO mid? For real? 
sonic verge
Wait, there are people calling this EGO mid? For real? <:OMEGALUL:70415709333408...
It's triple status slop ofc
silent herald
It's triple status slop ofc <:teriderp:809228427815157760>
People in solo do 130k
sonic verge
What else could the community opinion be when they already hate double status IDs
sonic verge
People in solo do 130k <:teriderp:809228427815157760>
The community would be really angry with that if they could read
silent herald
What else could the community opinion be when they already hate double status ID...
Yeah, let's limit ID usage even more and whine that XYZ status haven't had anything since 1 year ago
I wonder
Will capstone have synergy with EGO, like Kong Lu
silent herald
Binds, Mircalla and Tainted Blood all did it
Wait, binds had synergy with Wildcliff?
I have dementia at this point
sonic verge
Wait, binds had synergy with Wildcliff?
It's it a sinking EGO?
silent herald
Oh you mean that
sonic verge
Ans Wildcliff was like THE Sinking ID together with Yi Sang's ones
Before KoD at least
silent herald
I thought something like tarnished blood for Kong Lu
sonic verge
Oh that, it's probably still going to have synergy
If PM doesn't fuck it up or willingly nerfs it, this ID is shaping up to be the most insane one yet
glad crag
Limbus power ranking
sonic verge
100% accurate
Only question is Rien, he's a copy of a washed up Grade 9 fixer, why is he so high smh?
glad crag
Shin and Mang
sonic verge
Then put him in M tier
sonic verge
I used Outis in the story, she's pretty good
She has almost as much sinking count as Maid, but also is good in tremor, and has very good survivability
glad crag
Problem is i don't think my Sinking team needs an upgrade
Nor does my poise team
For sinking i already have Heishou Don
And poise, eh maybe i could switch from BL Faust to Index but that's about it
glad crag
Also kinda want to build a burn team but idk if that's wise
Since PM could just release a new burn id for Ryoshu
Or for anyone in fact
glad crag
I already have MB and her ego
I don't really need Dawn Sinclair because managing his sp is a pain
silent herald
If PM doesn't fuck it up or willingly nerfs it, this ID is shaping up to be the ...
I sure hope so
sonic verge
Or for anyone in fact
Here's the thing, we kinda know how many burn ID we're going to get, not even because of leaks, no
Because of story
sonic verge
So, we know that Middle IDs will have burn, cause Thermal Blades and Matthias sword
sonic verge
Cuz we're definitely getting the apprentices
Yeah, Thumb is already known to be Burn Tremor, so there's also them
That's at least 4 IDs with Burn
Then there's two hypothetical more
Lob Corp EGO Lantern, and Bad End Ryoshu
sonic verge
We know from story that Lantern already have an actually working and ID ready kit
How was it called, the one Waw
The Big Bird one
LAMP
glad crag
Ador Blossom?
sonic verge
sonic verge
Since he doesn't really do anything with burn aside from inflicting it
Yeah, that's true
But it may have some tweeks on release if they make it an ID
Or maybe they just give it really good infliction
sonic verge
Mmmh, Faust?
glad crag
She already has an LCE id
sonic verge
We have confirmed
Rien Yi Sang
Sora Don
Matthias Outis
Kira Ishmael
Probably we'll get Valencia Rodya
sonic verge
She already has an LCE id
It's another Mirror World tho, so maybe it's possible
oblique ledge
PEAK
glad crag
Probably we'll get Valencia Rodya
Probably
sonic verge
She already has an LCE id
Tbh, I could also see Sinclair
sonic verge
But idk, it would be funnier if he gets Araya ID
sonic verge
Like Rodya
Also, as people said, both want to be desperately considered special, while being relatively normal
Valencia is skilled, but she depends on her eye relic too much, without that she's not THAT good
Also, similar body type
sonic verge
Eh, just after her eye overheat she gets folded quickly
Like, the only way she can fight against high ranking opponents is abusing her eye relic (unfair evasion) as the eye looses effectiveness she gets pushed back
Compare that to people like Matthias, who can fight against 3 Sinners w/IDs and the LCD alone and still put up an insane fight
Or, even outside of Limbus, Roland
Who took down half the south section of the Middle alone
Valencia is definitely strong, but like, without Accelerating Future she's just a pretty skilled fighter, nothing more
sonic verge
She's not that good
*2000 dmg outside of MD*
Also, 2k in Canto 9 isn't even that special in itself
Roach Emperor can easily hit the thousands if you clash the funny green skills with unbreakables
glad crag
Valencina is st while Roach Emperor is aoe tho
sonic verge
And loosing the clash against a stage 3 Furioso Replica is a quick way of getting your sinner black line in the game
sonic verge
Valencina is st while Roach Emperor is aoe tho <:teriderp:809228427815157760>
On 3 targets, and I saw him it things like, 5k sometimes
(people are dumb and not read)
oblique ledge
Eh, just after her eye overheat she gets folded quickly
Yeah, but you have to compare quality of opponents....She was facing Verg while matthias was up against a newly appointed colour, the sinners are a non threat to most of the nursefathers and ezra together with moses are strong yes, but far from colour level I'd say
sonic verge
"Ah yes, imma use this 5 Unbreakable coins W Heat skill to clash the green kne"
oblique ledge
meanwhile roland in a tweet pretty much says that verg is among the top dog fixers, or at least has the potential
to be the "most dangerous"
sonic verge
I mean, if we consider their rolls
Vespa outroll Valencia is several skills
Hell, his 40 something base power skill can only lose to Valencia S3s with full heads iirc
Considering that, she would have a hell of a time against Vespa too
Also, consider that Verg went easy on her
No EGO
And she still was defeated quickly after her evasion got turned off
oblique ledge
Verg is still Verg tho
sonic verge
Exactly, and he basically played around with her
oblique ledge
He has the ability to actually bruteforce through her eye
sonic verge
Indeed
This makes me think that Vespa too could defeat Valencia, although not nearly as easily as Verg can
oblique ledge
The issue here is, that there's a lot more weaker people that can get her to fully use her eye with vespa's group
verg kept her from spiraling out of control
while he also protects the sinners
shown ingame as shields
sonic verge
The issue here is, that there's a lot more weaker people that can get her to ful...
Oh no no, I'm not saying to completely switch groups
I'm just saying Vespa in Verg olace would have won too
oblique ledge
1 on 1?
sonic verge
oblique ledge
Idk, I feel like people donwplay her too much
she still is a smoke war hero
with a brain for tactics
it just so happens
that verg is overwhelmingly more powerful
Vespa is strong, no doubt about that, but he still fell for the Ki/ra attack, which to me, speaks of slightly more inexperience
compared to verg
so I think it would probably be way more even
between the two of them
There's probably a good reason why rien choose her to be the one to hold of verg of all people
and not any of the other nursefathers
with the eye, she was probably the only one that could even hold him off, if just for a bit
glad crag
Not to mention, Vespa still get folded by Matthias
And bro doesn't have any Mang or Shin
oblique ledge
Well, not folded
but they seemed even enough
with his tattoos and the relic
vespa certainly looked pretty beaten up after the whole ordeal
as did all the others
glad crag
No seriously, he was getting folded if Moses didn't apply her minus 3 coin debuff
Literally cannot clash and win with any of his skill
sonic verge
True
Thought I take it more as Matthias just being a different beast entirely
As in, it's clear that not all Nursefather as as strong
Callisto for example
He seems weak compared to the other Nursefathers
sonic verge
Waw
oblique ledge
But yeah, I do think valencina was legit their best matchup to keep verg away
He‘d probably kill the others on the spot
glad crag
And pretty sure Callisto doesn't have Mang or Shin either
Due to not having a physical body
oblique ledge
Well, not like you need it, there 100s if ways to get strong in the city
shin and mang are just one of them
but ye
he weak
sonic verge
But yeah, I do think valencina was legit their best matchup to keep verg away
Yeah, it's not a matter of just numbers
Her relic is broken for endurance fights
oblique ledge
In lore, she probably has the highest combat experience of the nursefathers
sonic verge
Well, not like you need it, there 100s if ways to get strong in the city
Yeah, Matthias didn't either
silent herald
They done turned them into BA chars
April 1st exists
oblique ledge
as someone that has actually been in active combat
sonic verge
Shin and Mang are A way of getting stronger
glad crag
Valencina does have Mang and Shin too so there's that
sonic verge
Well, I expect most higher tier fighters to have them
In fact, we kinda reached the point where NOT using them is stranger
Like Matthias and Callisto
oblique ledge
Well, I expect most higher tier fighters to have them
Yesn‘t
silent herald
Valencina does have Mang and Shin too so there's that
Still a noob, Verg turned on his shin only when she goes ballistic
oblique ledge
anybody who‘s in the city
after the library
and it can be learned pretty swiftly
by stronger people it seems
like
iori got out of the library
and learned it immediately
sonic verge
Ofc, that goes without saying, I don't expect people to use them before they became available
glad crag
Also speaking of Mang, why didn't Vergilius use it during the fights
silent herald
You know, I want to know more about hunters outside of City, how people survive there. Hope purgatorio will have at least 1 chapter in outskirts
oblique ledge
claws
glad crag
Kinda weird to me
silent herald
Also speaking of Mang, why didn't Vergilius use it during the fights
He did
silent herald
You can literally see rings of Mang when he is using skills
sonic verge
In the time after the Library they did learn it
sonic verge
Binah was taken out by an EGO before they became wildly known, so I expect that the Arbiters will stay updated on recent forms of power
silent herald
And after he used EGO it's all or almost all his skills with Mang
glad crag
Also i just figured out Mang is different from person to person
I thought it's just a universal skill that increase defense
sonic verge
Yeah, they kinda are
silent herald
Shin - hype moments and aura
Mang - funny rings
silent herald
That's how I remember it
sonic verge
silent herald
sonic verge
I remember it as
Shin (the one in the passives, and aura)
Mang (the one in the skills unless your Verg, and funny rings)
glad crag
Man, it's so lame that Verg got nerfed
He could have easily folded most things it it was his C6 version
sonic verge
Smh, how else was he going to lose against the biggest bug
"PM! I need to be a threat, plese nerf Verg, he's too op!!"
silent herald
They just made his stronger than opponents, but not op, they aren't noobs, but still not Verg level
Makes sense imo
sonic verge
Yeah
silent herald
Also, as Verg said, you can't just bring him back from the grave with full recovery, so he can't go all out all day
sonic verge
Also, there's the offense level difference too, which is much, MUCH smaller than in Canto 6
glad crag
My theory is he wanted to clear the way as fast as possible in C6 so he was going all out from the start
sonic verge
So that's ton of final power gone
glad crag
In C9 it was a war of nutrition so he's only using 50% of his power
sonic verge
True
silent herald
Also, this might've been new point in his contract after Canto 6
sonic verge
Eh, I don't think it's that
Cause before the assault he say that the meeting about the breach of contracts and his punishment became useless cause they asked him to personally step in
So this seems to be an exception to the contract
silent herald
But I think they just made him OP in Canto 6 to trash everything and make sure he won't lose clashes.
silent herald
Plus they just a fodder
Especially when he used EGO
Best environment for his EGO
sonic verge
As I said, offense level difference too
He was level 90 against level 50 enemies
Now he's level 90 against level 85-90 enemies
silent herald
Well I was thinking in universe, not gameplay
But yeah, that too
Every 3 offense+1 clash power
oblique ledge
Smh, how else was he going to lose against the biggest bug
It‘s more like, verg has to really be careful how he does this
without actually killing the roach
he needed to peel that stuff away
without atomizing the poor lad
sonic verge
Funny thing is, if he wanted to do that, he shouldn't have popped EGO
On a meta level, if he really just wanted to be careful not to hurt him, his weapon alone should be enough, not needing to go all out with EGO
On a gameplay level, his EGO gives him tons of unbreakables, which just makes the fight harder cause Roach Emperor has adapted to them
sonic verge
But his rolls was like+14 in C6
I wouldn't be so certain, doing a bit of math you can see he gets +8 from just offense level difference
C6 Verg has 90 and Peccatulum Irae Class 3 has 65
oblique ledge
Funny thing is, if he wanted to do that, he shouldn't have popped EGO
The issue is
greg is on a level
that does probably require ego
but not strong enough where he could take ego
at least that's my assumption
going by how the fight went
glad crag
I wouldn't be so certain, doing a bit of math you can see he gets +8 from just o...
Yes but his s1 still roll 56, regardless of his level in C6
sonic verge
I mean, his S3 is 60 + 40 with 5 coins
They REALLY didn't want him to lose clashes there
sonic verge
I mean, his S3 is 60 + 40 with 5 coins
In C9 this becomes 45 + 1, still 5 coins
However he gets coin power +3 at +0 SP cause of Mang
Still not as much as his C6 skill tho
sonic verge
@oblique ledge I found thr forbidden knowledge
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/s/ThvIhIPvXs
oblique ledge
I mean
fair
that's why roland is the goat
his biggest powerup was taking off his mask on his own
thereby showing his huge growth in personality
and it didn't net him an ego
just huge aura points
and it was followed by soloing the ensemble for 7 days straight
all of them sotc/colour fixer level
the loland agenda will never stop
sonic verge
oblique ledge
What is extremely funny tho
I see a lot of people still saying he's a glasscannon assassin type of character
when that couldn't be further from the truth
bro was taking threats head on with the bois at charles office
or even just together with yet-to-be-wife
and after the bohoo-my wife-is-ded-incident he went on an absolute endurance rampage spanning multiple syndicates
Eyyyyy
she's doin' it
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it's kether realisation
won't say more than that
you are only start of impuritas
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Yeah, I only know ||Thar you fight Roland and that Gone Angel plays, thought it's been a while since I last heard the song, since before starting LoR||
||Also that's it's a pretty tough fight||
||But I don't actually know the mechanics, in fact, until two days ago I thought you got the Black Silence page from winning that fight||
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||Also that's it's a pretty tough fight||
It's alright, genuinly not that bad
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gebura kinda just beats him lmao
rue said if she ever did challenge runs of the game she’d ban language for that reception
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It's alright, genuinly not that bad
Btw, yesterday I got to activate The Beast
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it’s not bad but, like I said, it’s a ||boss rush where you go from him into reverb ensemble 2 into final reception||
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At turn start tho Binah was staggered and everyone else already dies
Still got the achievement at least
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gebura kinda just beats him lmao
Honestly, not because of that
but
because by that point
you have access to all the powerful builds
and 12 passive atribution slots
meaning you can make your chars stronger than the fight
and stuff like netz stealth is just....well it's stealth netz
if you want to beat any fight
the boring way
just use netz
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you have access to all the powerful builds
Yeah, my most trouble until now is still KoD, and that's because Pierce is by far the most effective type against her and the only good Pierce pages you have at that point are single use Full Stop ones
As you get more pages and passives, more strategies open up
Also, Light and card draw is a pretty severe limitation to play around early game
But by now I have pages like The Will of The City
Or Singleton decks
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The only accessable light restoration early game
is legit
just leveling your emotion level
which
early on
in itself is limited
because floor emotion level, is tied to the abnormality fights
card draw is aight
due to kurokumo stuff
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||Idk, iirc he was essentially being jumped by the entire library||
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||and he still put up a massive fight||
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||canonically he fights through every floor up until the one you beat him on||
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ye
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||then he helps out with a majority of the distorted ensemble, then 1v1s distorted Argalia for a week straight||
||and then has to deal with the final reception, which he starts at 75% hp||
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||which is insane btw, more than any person or group pulls off, even other colours||
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||then he helps out with a majority of the distorted ensemble, then 1v1s distort...
IIrc, he does the ensemble solo
because
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granted this is with library buffs
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IIrc, he does the ensemble solo
no, he doesn’t
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||angela is in the light at that time||
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||the other floors should not be awake, until he pulls her out, which is why, for the final reception, it took a while for geb and bhina to be woken up as well||
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||he also does every major reception in the game||
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||the other floors should not be awake, until he pulls her out, which is why, fo...
hmm, true
forgot about that
||he does have library buffs which are pretty substantial but the ensemble also has buffs so||
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||the ensemble is essnetialy double dipping on the distortion buffs, and argalia finally distorted as well||
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He's on the doomguy grindset
too angry to go down
unless extreme circumstances hit
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honestly, considering his plan
I wouldn't put it past him
that he let it happen
||the whole, "befriend her to make her feel my pain" part wouldn't work if he goes in there||
and just goes to town
like any other visitor
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I mean it would be funny tho
library goes down as a canard case because the Charles office grade 1 is there
reminds me of that one randomizer run kamui did
loaded into the rats reception and jumpscared by xiao
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that's rough
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Ok, so I made slight changes to my setup
and I immediately solo first tried geb
with yujin beast again
I remember having to do a ton of retries back then
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Nah
she's just, easier to solo
than be in a group
solo you get a emotion level up every turn
to get full light
and an abno page
and geb is actually just not that hard
for you see
she doesn't have shimmering
like literally every other boss later in the game
so at one point...she just can't attack
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Well...a memory of her
cause like
she gets ran over by every floor doing their stuff
only time she's hard
is if you are new to the game
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lore accurate red mist reception everyone dies
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No
cause binah's there
and while she was a lazy bum before
the moment she heard kali was at their door
she locked in
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degraded pillar
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https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/s/fetVDG5Tl8
because the other fausts are frauds our Faust is Smart and Cute Faust she has the most golden boughs collectef
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silent herald
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Ok well, I do have a but of knowledge of how the Ensemble works thanks to having been in the PM community for a while, and now I feel bad for whoever will face Binah
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Why so many deaths
for beast runs you want to start with like
3 at most
in a large number of cases only 2
the more librarians you have, the harder it is, to control emotion level
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Really? I took all 5 librarians to redirect attacks
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the more librarians you have, the harder it is, to control emotion level
Well, the problem is that Xiao act 1 has two powerful enemies
Even with 5 I sent some to their death to redirect attacks from Binah
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You are telling that to someone that did do that thing with yujin
the keypage
that starts with a broken dice
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How the hell?
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it's fine with just 1 sacrefical nugget
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Wait, so Beast is better either solo or near solo?
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very
keep in mind, beast damages your characters as well every turn
it is very much a selfish buff
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Yep, when I got Beast 2 others were still alive
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and binah is among the worst beast users as well btw
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But sacrifices must be made
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because she doesn't have ANY counterdice
binah's floor, if you don't go beast, you usually want to go for guardians of the forest, and just give everynyan an ego page
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Now that makes me wonder, how strong would Black Silence Roland with The Beast buffs be?
Can that be modded?
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yes
and not that good as well
he has 1 counterdice
let me show you my current beast deck
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Uuh, considering you brought up counter dices, I guess Geb would be the best theoretical user?
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for my yujin
guess again
technicly
it's iori
she has a ton of counterdice
everywhere
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No, every page has a counterdice
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Damn, so close
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also lot's of card draw
but no light regen
because in a solo scenario
evey scene you get an emotion up
which refills light
and once you have beast
you just get infinite light anyway
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And by the time you hit Emo 5 you have Beast
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immediate repairs is from a general invitation
it's basicly the stagger equivalent to another passive
that gives you a full heal upon death
but I prefer the stagger heal
it's both cheaper and in my experience, the full heal doesn't actually save you, as the librarian is probably staggered at that point anyway
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I'm preparing myself for the Ensemble, but I fear I'm putting too many good pages on few floors, leaving me with little for others
Do I actually need to make all the floors as strong or are there some I can afford to leave weaker?
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ok so
just as a heads up
it's split into parts
so like
the asiya floors are one bracket
so you can use keypages again
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there’s 10 major fights, but 46 “guests” technically
good luck tho they’re pretty annoying
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Well, most floors are pretty much done, but I'm looking at what I can do with earlier floors with touching the already finished ones as little as possible
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How the hell?
here btw
basicly
you bring 1 other nugget
without keypage
and have it die turn 1
to give guaranteed big eyes
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hmmmm I sure do wonder why general works hasn’t showed up as a fight yet
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and then smooth sailing
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I really have no idea what to do with Literature and Art man
I made History basically the burn floor, Tec. Science the smoke blunt floor
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art, again
netzach stealth
semi solo
and you have him use a bunch of cheap 1 cost light restoration cards
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and you have him use a bunch of cheap 1 cost light restoration cards
I see
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and then
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How does that work?
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you go with spring genesis
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Oh, I see
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each Scene, a a debuff attaches to a random enemy.
After the character with the Petal takes 4 hits in a single Scene, all characters take 3-7 Stagger damage, and the librarian becomes untargetable for the next Scene
netzach, ofc, needs mind hauler
to offset the stagger damage
but once you are there
you just
cannot die
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I guess the hard part would be to get to the level 3 page in the first place
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No? sacrefical nuggets to keep pressure off of netz
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Especially because it's a positive one
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for the first one or 2 turns
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No? sacrefical nuggets to keep pressure off of netz
Don't they generate negative emotions by dying?
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Especially because it's a positive one
it's a tier 3
and there's only 3 tier 3s
it's almost guaranteed to show up
on the final emotion level
kind of like binah's floor
where the final pages
are ALWAYS beast, guardian of the forest and piece
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and you have him use a bunch of cheap 1 cost light restoration cards
Would a Singleton deck be enough?
It has both good Light and draw
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Probably
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So I guess other nuggets don't really matter much
The important thing is Netz getting to the Genesis
Oh yeah, one last thing, how does the stealth strat interact with Ever-repeating Performance?
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You don't take ever repeating performance
all it does is ending the scene
netz's floor, outside of spring genesis doesn't really do much
the problem is
finale is neat....if shimmering wasn't a thing
"oh no, I don't have light, well, shimmering turns page cost to 0, anyway"
adoration is a funny gimmick that CAN make enemies target each other
but as a tier 3, it happens so late
where that kind of safety net doesn't matter anyway
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Which is shimmering?
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shimmering is an enemy passive
that, starting from the 3rd row in sotc, every enemy has pretty much
At the start of each Scene, exhaust all pages in hand and deck; add new pages to hand. Their Cost becomes 0.
they always have card draw, and no page cost anymore
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the reason, I say the red mist is so easy, eventho many think she is
is because she doesn't have shimmering
so you can have points in the fight
where she uses like
1 lone page
because she ran out of light
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I feel like that's more balanced
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that can't happen to enemies after that anymore
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We're not the only one having Light problems
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basicly turns the game mechanic for them
was actually a pretty iffy debate back during the release of those enemies
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that can't happen to enemies after that anymore
Yeah, I noticed that, which means they can use 4 or 5 cost pages repeatedly
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was actually a pretty iffy debate back during the release of those enemies
I can imagine
I guess Abno and EGO pages balance that out tho
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yes, but it also kills any ego page, abno page or combat ability that lowers enemy light
it just doesn't do anything anymore
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True
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like, netz's finale: Whenever the selected librarian Staggers an enemy, all enemies lose 1-6 Light at the start of the next Scene.
congratz netz
you destroyed their light
anyway
please block that 5 cost mass attack from xiao
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yes, but it also kills any ego page, abno page or combat ability that lowers ene...
On our side instead those pages are the worst
cough cough Judgment Bird mass attack cough cough
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well, if you don't use beast, binah's floor still has a nasty page....Lamp
instantly kills all the enemies power
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Not that, by worst I meant worst going against
Especially cause that attack when we get it switches from lowering the enemy Light to giving them paralysis
Which is much better for us
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it's better that way
ye
it's still a sh*t page
or rather
it's the worst among the philosophy ego pages
because judgement, justicia exist
as well as big eyes for on-demand power null
beak to lower expensive pages
which is great for my yujin solos
cause she doesn't have as much light
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as well as big eyes for on-demand power null
However I guess it's not that good if you want to go Beast
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yeah but it's still busted for any time you don't want to go beast
and as someone that loves beast, it's really not the best way to play the floor
it's, genuinly, just running binah, with the bois, using guardians of the forest
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To me Justitia is the best page all around
Decently rolling, good damage, and broken on hit effect
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apart from ding ding and key page specific egos...it's my fav
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Apocalypse is also fun, though not as good
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but for real
don't underestimate
big eyes
there's a reason power null is exceedingly rare
it just dismantles pretty much the only thing that makes fights tough
no matter how many offensive buffs the enemy has
power null sets them back
it's only if the enemy has high natural rolls, that they can get around it
which are also rare
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there's a reason power null is exceedingly rare
Iori when she uses the funny "Power affects this dice x 2" Slash page
Nuh uh
Power Null
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Honestly, Iori just generally rolls incredibly low
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her strengh comes from the boosts