game-ideas

[thick mango]

in here

the game is first-person

ill send you a screenshot real quick

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Yeah then trails are pointless

[thick mango]

so you know what were dealing with

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go ahead

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whoa

[thick mango]

the last one is in game view rn

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did you make these graphics or did you use assets

[thick mango]

mostly assets and i just improvised with them

mixed assets together

the levels are mostly built myself though

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well Im worried that this style isnt perfect for shooter games because the amount of details around will make it uncomfortable to focus on enemies

so you shouldnt use super detailed props

[thick mango]

it's not entirely based on shooting, the games a mix of doing tasks in the games, casually fighting enemies and going through a small story

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Generally you probably shouldnt bother with level design until you're done with core mechanics anyway

[thick mango]

its more like tomb raider

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well still, the human eye tends to be attracted to more detailed objects and you dont want people to be distracted by these trees and benches

I recommend you watch some level design videos

but for now we're focusing on mechanics

so basically the point is to make combat less bland

[thick mango]

not even that

combat is fine

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so just the movement?

[thick mango]

yeah

i plan on making more effects to my movement

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So perhaps consider some Mirror's Edge-style parkour mechanics so player has more variety and interaction

like ziplines and stuff

[thick mango]

ziplines wpuld be cool

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Though what I would do is design the levels around the mechanics when youre done with those

for example since you can climb walls, make level actually use that to progress

[thick mango]

yeah i am a little far in to add a lot more mechanics

i am planning to add more stuff in an expansion or something like that

[thick mango]

thats my bad and i will consider that in my next game

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If possible, I'd try to get some simplier assets

Generally level design needs a lot of work here

your style feels a bit like bioshock infinite

[thick mango]

that's what im trying to do, it should be a steampunkish style

[thick mango]

it's built on upon the things i have in the game right now, so adding something new might be challenging but still possible.

and i generally don't wanna use simpler assets. it is supposed to be semi-realistic and i won't throw that away

[thick mango]

this is gettinh used a lot, as well as super jumping to get to higher places only possible to reach with a superjump.

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Doesnt have to mean throwing realism away

But you should put details in proper places, not randomly, if you want the game to be comfortable to play

Look at any realistic game and take a look at where the most details are located

[thick mango]

it isn't really placed "randomly", it suits the overall world, but i get what you mean

do you have a good example for open-world combat?

because the enemies can run anywhere they want

and the overall game is not really built upon sections where you fight exclusively

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well I mean that some of the unimportant props are way too detailed

such as trees, benches or the lamps

[thick mango]

is that particularly a "bad" thing though!

*?

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to be honest I'd avoid that, you don't want enemies randomly showing up in a puzzle section

[thick mango]

true

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it is since it can distract the player

sort of

basically you should put most details where you want the player to look the most

[thick mango]

that is true and i agree with this

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so floors, walls, random furniture should have fairly simple and bland designs

[thick mango]

i'll take a look into that

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enemies, interactables should be most detailed so they contrast

you can also use detailed landmarks to guide the player so they know where to go

[thick mango]

in this first level you will have to look for a lever which will open a sewer door

so you are saying i should place the lever and build my level around that said lever?

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do you know what whiteboxing is?

[thick mango]

not really, no

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building the general shape of your level with basic shapes, then testing it to see if it's good, only after that adding any sort of details

[thick mango]

okayy

i've got some ideas from what you told me

thank you!

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yw