#Concerns about the learning environment on this server

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crystal token
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I will quote my own message as it explains my point:
"Reading through the code of conduct thoroughly I would be interested in a clarification on one part.

I do get the will to decrease duplicate posts and encouraging putting effort into learning is fair however if someone is asking for clarification on the documentation or is simply a newer developer I personally don't think it is helpful to just link the documentation. Would it not be better to explain in a helpful and welcoming manner?

I personally think the approach Godot's discord server has would provide a better learning environment."

I would love to have a civilized discussion as I genuinely wish for more insight on the thought process behind this.

willow star
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I agree on this point. If someone doesn't understand one way of explaining something, it's often better to approach the issue from different angles until one sticks

tough apex
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Usually documentation is linked when people failed to serch for it in the first place. Documentation itself has many helpful examples as well.

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It is usually quite apparent as well if person did not look for answers themselves first. Ideally people ask questions when they did try to lookup documentation and aware of it, just not understanding.

crystal token
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Okay that is the approach I think is right.

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But I would assume that is the case if someone were to be asking for help and I would try to maybe link the documentation but perhaps also explain and break the topic down.

molten lintel
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What's this issue exactly? You can ask for clarification on docs just fine, there's nothing at all stopping you from doing that

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The documentation is one of the first port of calls as it's one of the first places anyone should go to find information

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if it's not enough info, then asking for clarification is welcome

willow star
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I think it refers to a situation that Unity has apparently already been made aware of according to another moderator

molten lintel
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Then it sounds like it's a somewhat disingenuous piece of feedback, or at least it has no relation to the way this server is actually run

willow star
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It did regard a moderator's actions in this case which may have been regarded as disproportionate to the situation

crystal token
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What indeed originally brought me here is that situation and if you wish me to stop I will. To avoid uneccesary drama I am trying to keep away from calling anyone out specifically however what concerned me the most is how what may have been a good answer was disregarded and the user in question asking for help specifically asked to have the answer DM'ed. How was the answer determined to be LLM in the first place?

I will not push this further if my questions and feedback are taken into consideration already.

molten lintel
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Your feedback doesn't mention LLMs, so it's kinda unclear what your point is

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if someone wants some clarification on the docs there are so many willing people who actually have knowledge who can clarify things

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instead of people who are just copy pasting generated text from a stochastic parrot

crystal token
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But once again how would you be certain an answer is generated by an LLM and why would it be an issue if it helped the individual in question?

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I can admit everything feels a bit foggy and I may not have declared my feedback too well in my original message so I do apologize for that. But this discussion has been helpful for getting more context.

dusky flicker