People shouldn’t get banned for reacting on a message

[sweet bronze]

because it's been 9 hours and I'm tired of it too now lmao

[rose hazel]

We should make an article let's generate that passive income

[bitter hull]

okay? you responded to me talking to someone else

[mystic glacier]

Well, you'll always have people that don't like you. I've heard this kind of stuff towards other moderators and users too. Moderators are a more common target, as they would always be involved in controversial situations and make some people frustrated(mainly those that don't want to follow the rules).

[rose hazel]

I mean that's true but even from my standpoint it looked kinda of harsh they way he talked to people.

[bitter hull]

This is that same energy that came up with telling kings manifest destiny was a thing so they'd feel better bro lol

they say they heard a lot of tell of this guy acting like this and you're just immediately like "rumors all rumors. they don't like him cause he's a mod" XD

[mystic glacier]

I missed the incident today, but I've never seen them being "too harsh". Sure they're probably the most strict mod around here, but not someone abusing their power regularily.

[rose hazel]

It could be viewed that way tbf to many

I'm just saying I've moderatored servers for years without single complaint

[mystic glacier]

More than anything, I feel like it's a waste of time. Like really, just follow the rules and you'll be fine. i bet this server is not that huge part of your life anyway. Is it worth the effort?

[bitter hull]

😬 ACK

literally any time anyone stands up for anything ever I hear that point made

[mystic glacier]

And that being said, I'm gonna go do something more productive.

[rose hazel]

I mean this entire thing exploded due to someone being banned for non-offensive emoji reactions

[bitter hull]

it's universally applicable :p "why should you care"

[sweet bronze]

it just ain't that serious lil bro

[rose hazel]

True I think a lot of people have a right to care tbh, developers, unity users, discord users, discord mods, Reddit mods and the learning of environment of this server are all stakeholders

[sweet bronze]

I'm sure the 12th hour of complaining will convince the 3 people in the chat

excellent use of time & energy

[mossy arrow]

!ban save 196278069453914112 new troll here to insult

[bitter hull]

I've been developing in Unity for a decade and I could get banned from the official discord because someone left a power hungry mod in charge and he had a shitty day so I'm out? Nah.

[limpid iron]

rinkusdinkus was banned.

[rose hazel]

I'd hate for any of those listed to get a bad rep from the drama

[bitter hull]

Also clearly I'm one to speak out when something is wrong. What happened when people did that? They got threatened with bans.

[sweet bronze]

frankly if you do care so much about not getting banned the best course of action would be to wait out a day or two and see what happens to the guy

[bitter hull]

#1319020501250740315 message
aaaand someone else always comes up with the theory that the best thing to do is be quiet

much more reasonable than the first I'll grant, but not a good way to go through life

[rose hazel]

I'm going to go wrap presents have a good Christmas if you celebrate

[sweet bronze]

I mean yeah, not posting has a 100% chance of not getting banned whereas typing hundreds of messages will probably lower those odds

[bitter hull]

yes, if my concern were just for me it would make sense

[full epoch]

whyd he get banned

[bitter hull]

he was brand new and first-posting a gif to make fun of someone and taunt

[warped cedar]

You can read the message above the ban

[feral phoenix]

unrelated to this but tech servers are always so negative overall
cuz its a hundred people whove been here for years and have gotten so jaded that they cant help ppl in general chat without being passive aggressive the entire time (including mods)

like the fogsight "ill ban u then" thing was probably him being tired of modding for so long that it doesnt even cross his mind its rude

servers like these and godot should just make general a chat only area so this jadedness doesnt infest the server

[rain portal]

Guys why is fogsight still a moderator? Is there something I am missing here?

[merry wharf]

Was it resolved?

[opal spoke]

Read the pinned message. (Not the one about AI)

[bitter hull]

Right like how was saying that not gonna stir things for no reason

No but you've got a bunch of pissed off people showing up and you're basically lying

that's clearly the worst way to handle it

the admins might not even be aware this has happened yet (edit: they are, read below, I should have worded this better) , everyone is still flooding in from reddit, there's no publicly posted information

it's not resolved

[upper ruin]

The community team is aware, which includes the admins yes.

[final marsh]

"Inactive" accounts suspected of spam just because they aren't constantly posting here? I lurk this server quite often and I have no intention of spamming, thank you very much. I expected a way more professional response from this moderation team.

[rain portal]

Allright, hope they come online soon before more of us are banned for no reason

[upper ruin]

As was stated yesterday.

[bitter hull]

My apologies on that wording, I do remember the mods saying they'd sent contact to the admins, I just wasn't aware there was confirmation they had received it, as I assume they're probably out for the holidays.

[feral phoenix]

thats just something fog came up with on the spot cuz he was double downing on the situation

like it makes no sense to begin with

[final marsh]

Yeah, I don't mean to show up and stir the pot more, but as someone who's dedicated so many hours to learning Unity, it makes me so unhappy to see its name dragged through the mud constantly like this. I just want Unity to stop picking up negative publicity.

[bitter hull]

Yeah but in their defense most of this blew up because of the emoji thing which they're now receiving backlash on, but it looks like slurs might be forming in the emoji reactions of this post. It's questionable though and now the moderation team is receiving so much backlash for emojis and the story has been turned around on them so much they probably don't know how to fix it :\

Don't get me wrong Unity as an overall company has... really let me down in ways that feel personal. This doesn't feel like a general failing of Unity leadership, though. This just got super twisted.

[round ivy]

Oh god people are taking this and hating on the engine again?

[bitter hull]

More the company than the engine

[round ivy]

The mods arent even related to the official company (right? Might need confirmation on that)

[bitter hull]

Right

[round ivy]

The hate train is a violent ride :/

[warped cedar]

No, not at all. But where is the fun in that?

[bitter hull]

it's also not like a whole thing at the moment. Like it is HERE, but it seems to be held at a level of like "ah some more unity drama happened" for the distant folks, whereas with SpatialOS and the following debacles everyone was kinda into the details. This mostly seems to be unity devs.

[feral phoenix]

its just natural for big brands to lose control and get bad publicity every few months, like youtube reddit discord etc

[bitter hull]

Mm idk there is kinda this low-key vibe around Unity sometimes of like "oh you use that cute engine for mobile games that has all the drama?" and it's just like 😮‍💨

[feral phoenix]

the mods at the reddit are getting praised btw so its not like a unity bad overall thing over there either

[warped cedar]

Luckily for you drama does not affect the way the engine works, only how your feelings work

If somebody is going to judge you over using Godot/Unity despite the drama, then that says more about them

[feral phoenix]

ye i used both theyre both good

[bitter hull]

I don't really care what it says about their large company in this job market, if you have the luxury of worrying about that right now I'm happy for you, honestly

I feel like you're trying to act like I'm making this about my feelings, but I'm being objective. Drama affects the way I'm perceived by employers.

[feral phoenix]

unitys doing good rn though rolling back the monetize thing

[bitter hull]

That's not my feelings, I'm seeing people who went through the 2008 dotcom bubble pop saying they're having just as hard a time if not a harder time finding a position right now.

[bitter hull]

They're doing alright, but NOT doing a bad thing they've tried to do like 8 times and keep getting called out on isn't like... a nice move, it's minimum

[feral phoenix]

i mean u guys were argueing the whole day its normal u guys are passive aggressive to each other

ye lol

there might be a shareholders vs directors battle up at unity co

[mild quiver]

Has fogsight been removed yet? It is genuinely sad that people can't have normal discussions about what the server is intended for without some guy going on a power trip.

[opal spoke]

The outcome of this will be them looking into it. There’s no guarantee what the outcome of them looking into it will be.

[mild quiver]

I see

[rain portal]

What is there to look into? Look through the guy’s messages, he is the definition of a powerhungry salty mod

[jaunty gull]

What's wrong with pride flags?

[pliant quest]

As long as admins are aware if it, and is currently reviewing and potentially discussing what to do regarding the incident, there's no need to hasten the outcome. Other mods have already asked everyone for patience on the matter.

[upper ruin]

Nothing, they were clarifying that people were banned for placing the pride flag beside the ban emoji.

[opal spoke]

Sounds like you just said what there is to look into. The messages.

[pale rune]

i love how the narrative in reddit went from
"a mod was a jerk to someone and gave them a warning for suspected AI-generated code"
to
"a mod is abusing his power to ban people for emoji spam"
to
"a mod banned someone for helping people"

incredible

the internet was a mistake

[rain portal]

The last one is arguably closer to what happened than the first

[pale rune]

the last one is literally a lie
but you guys just want to lie for imaginary internet points i guess? 🤷‍♂️

[fleet agate]

not to pick sides but no, internet wasn't a mistake. ||humans were lol||

[rain portal]

The last one is a lie? Did the guy end up getting banned? Yes. Was he trying to help? Yes.

[pale rune]

no he didn't get banned
no it wasn't for trying to help
why are you lying?
or i guess you were duped by people lying on reddit?

[fleet agate]

one day, maybe, aliens will come and kill us, because they ||probably|| would be a superior species and need our space(earth)

or maybe make an alliance with us for interstellar war

[hybrid dove]

Hey everyone,
We're dealing with this situation by working directly with the moderator involved. Thank you for your understanding!

[fleet agate]

i believe this is the right way through, not this thread

[hybrid dove]

I believe this thread has served its purpose and there's no need to keep discussing or dragging this again.

[fleet agate]

even if the mod is at fault, the amount of stuff that is being dragged in this thread is completely unnecessary

[rain portal]

He didn’t?
I guess this is photoshop.

[pale rune]

that user got banned for emoji spam
the guy who was helping got warned for a completely different thing and is not banned

[merry wharf]

I was not banned.

[rain portal]

So someone got banned

[pale rune]

for spamming, yes

[hybrid dove]

@rain portal The person who got banned can appeal the decision through our customer support. I'll ask you to stop discussing other people's bans in this thread

[primal zephyr]

[fleet agate]

i ate popcorn throughout this entire drama and now even im getting frustrated how much this is being dragged

[pale rune]

yes, this thread needs to be closed or limited to a 1-hour slow mode
it's just become an off-topic spam-dump zone

[hybrid dove]

Will do

[fleet agate]

even the OP of that reddit post agrees

[pale rune]

by today's night or tomorrow people will have forgotten about this whole thing anyways

there's like 10 people max talking about it right now and the rest is just 1-message spam people who join from reddit

[opal spoke]

Even faster if people stopped replying

[fleet agate]

true, but you sir, are a true dev and a good bean, supporting the actually good mod team of this server for something that is unnecessarily being dragged

[hybrid dove]

@primal zephyr This is a warn, please do not use this kind of language here.

[warped cedar]

Go be useless somewhere else please, this serves absolutely nothing to the conversation

[mild quiver]

At least 3 users were banned for reasons that I don't believe are justifiable

[warped cedar]

I think it's better if this whole thread was just locked since it really doesn't provide anything anyway