#C doesn t just let you declare functions
runic cloak
well, there are "top level statements", but you don't really use those in Unity
I also don't think you can define methods out there
Java is very similar. AFAIK you can only define methods in classes.
(well, a "method" is, by definition, a function that's a member of a class)
peak vine
Python is really the odd one out of the modern languages that actually has first order functions
neon cipher
ok, that is new to me. I was just wondering where the hell I could just define a function
runic cloak
Python is really the odd one out of the modern languages that actually _has_ fir...
isn't that a separate idea
functions just being objects
neon cipher
Python is really the odd one out of the modern languages that actually _has_ fir...
C does that too
peak vine
C does that too
modern
neon cipher
it's been a long time, but I do remember just writing functions
runic cloak
C certainly doesn't have functions as first-class citizens :p
you'll take a pointer and you'll like it
peak vine
isn't that a separate idea
Technically separate, but also connected.
Everything in an object-oriented language is an object, so functions being able to be objects means they don't have to be members of objects
runic cloak
ah, true
neon cipher
right, I forgot python did something like that
so if I get this right, Instantiate is a method, because functions can't not be methods in C#?
runic cloak
You can't define named functions by themselves, yes
neon cipher
so it's a static method so it actually does behave as a lone function that doesn't fuck with anything
runic cloak
static methods cannot access any non-static members of their class
and they are accessed from the type name, not from an instance of the type
peak vine
static methods cannot access any non-static members of their class
But, notably, can access private members of that class if they have a reference. Thats what makes a static method different than a function
runic cloak
Right.
I always get surprised when private members are accessed from anything other than this
It feels weird.
neon cipher
is "this" the same as self?
runic cloak
I always get surprised when private members are accessed from anything other tha...
incidentally, the simplest definition of a static method is that it doesn't have this
runic cloak
is "this" the same as self?
this is a reference to the object the method is running on
thus, it only exists in non-static methods
peak vine
is "this" the same as self?
Yes, but you don't need to implicitly pass it to functions like you do with self in python
neon cipher
gotcha. I was wondering
so if I call a named function, it has to be a method. And if there is nothing before it to show what it is a method of, C# will assume it is a method of "this"
peak vine
Yes