OHhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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ok

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so what is happening if you just put in some constant?

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Y is now = to 500

no movement though

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this is odd

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So..... The movement is not being applied to the object.

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you set velocity to 500 and nothing happens?

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Yeah.

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🤔

my best guess is that something else later in the frame is resetting the velocity

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FOUND SOMETHING

OH WOW

It is this "On jump performed."

Screenshot...

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#archived-code-general message

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where is it?

@uncut tundra also why aren't you messaging here 🙂

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I saw this whoops

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so it is working now?

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private void HandleJumpInput()
{
if(jumpInput)
{

        playerLocomotion.HandleJumping();
        ~~jumpInput = false;~~
    }
}

Then this works, but is odd

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in the original script you posted you have this line above the HandleJumping() call

not below

why did you put it below then

but anyway it shouldn't matter

lte me see the code again

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playerControls.PlayerActions.Jump.performed += i => jumpInput = true;
I wonder what this is actually doing

(or supposed to do)

like

playerControls is something called Vectorman

I dunno what Vectorman is

it's not something built-in to Unity

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Yeah. That's just the new input system name.

For the player actions.

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can you link me to corresponding docs page?

I can't find it

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uh.... I don't know how to. 😅

Where do I go for that?

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I mean I can't google what Vectorman is

usually all classes that exist in any package related to Unity are easily googleable

so I suppose it's something you yourself implemented

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Vectorman is an old 2D platformer. Name wise. That happens to be the name I chose for the input actions code.

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yeah

show it

the Vectorman class

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There you go

Sorry for the confusion. I didn't understand cause I am a goober sometimes. 🤣

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hmm

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Ok... So the problem has changed. Now, he teleports up and falls from there.

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because velocity of 500 is... too much? 🙂

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That's with jumpInput = false; gone.

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so it looks like a teleport

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I reduced it to 50.

Short hop.

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well velocity never teleports

if you experience it as teleport it means velocity is way too big

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So..... I need to reduce the velocity then. I will test that.

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velocity's purpose is to continuously change your position so that collision detection works

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Dang. No matter how small, still teleports.

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okay so as I see it (I'm talking about jump resetting)

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when you do this you want to do jumpInput = false;

otherwise you are calling HandleJumping every frame

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oh dang

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and this adding a constant to velocity every frame

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Making it appear to teleport.

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yep

it doesn't actually teleport I think

just the velocity is that big

that you don't even notice how it moves

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I set it to 1 and it did a tiny hop instead

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but he doesn't keep going up?

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Barely left the ground

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Right.

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wtf

hmm

actually no we are setting velocity directly

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so this is wrong

the thing I don't get is

why doesn't it work when you reset the jump

jumpInput*

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Does that help at all?

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ok so the thing here is

your gravity is very big

OR his mass is very big

therefore to at least make a slight hop you have to go big big velocity

(which looks like a teleport)

and yes 50 is very much

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So I turned gravity down to 15. He teleports up, and then gently floats down

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you don't want to modify gravity directly

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Oh

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modify mass of the player

because if you modify it directly it will break other things in your game 🙂

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So..... What do I do from here to test that?

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what is advisable to do with jumps is to reduce the mass when you're moving up

for jump to appear longer and more floaty

and when you cross the upper point

get back to normal mass

to slap the player to the ground

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Ok.... Wasn't that what the Sqrt was doing before though?

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I've no idea what it was doing but apparently it didn't work 🙂

the formula used seemed very unintuitive

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True

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what is the * -2 multiplier at all

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Sebastian Graves 🤣

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why is Sqrt here at all

etc

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I am not sure. Still learning the everything

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also I dunno why your gravity was anything else than 9.8 in first place

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Everything under is too slow feeling.

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what do you mean too slow?

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Should I just bite the bullet and redo all the movement?

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for that you have mass property of rigidbody

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Floats down like a piece of paper

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you pretty much never should manipulate gravity itself

work with mass

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or when you are absolutely conscious about it and you are just starting your project

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OK. What's your recommendation from here? Any type of code you would run instead?

I'm going for 3D platformer.

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well for starters I wouldn't use new fancy ui system at all

oh sorry not ui

input*

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But... controllers. 🥺

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what's wrong with them?

you can easily support them without new ui

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I want to use one and the old one seems so complicated

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Really?

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yes

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Dang.

All these youtubers hyped up the new UI system so much...

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or wait can you actually

😄

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WAT

WUT

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actually you just use axes from the input manager

for instance

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oh man... What do I do from here? I've integrated this thing in already.

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so yes you can

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you just collect user input in whatever Update() method using Input.GetAxis or GetAxisRaw

and it will automatically support controllers and keyboards

(as long as you have correct keys set in input manager)

the Input api is fairly straightforward so that's what I recommend for beginner (and honestly for anyone if you don't need fancy new features)

you just do Input.GetAxis and get your input

and it just works

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So I need to go through everything and put an if statement for everything now? 😨

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what, no

just where you handle the input

like the

what did you call it

HandleAllUserInput or something

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So............................................................................................. Wait.... How do I uninstall the new input system? Do I even need to?

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private void HandleJumpInput()
    {
        if(jumpInput)
        {
            
            playerLocomotion.HandleJumping();
            jumpInput = false;
        }
    }

like right here

instead of this if (jumpInput) you call Input.GetAxis("Jump")

and then do what you want with this value

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ehm if you don't use it - yes, delete

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I shall test then. Still wondering if I need to restart the player movement.

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package manager -> find input package -> uninstall

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Hard reset. Try to fix it.

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but obviously after you remove it from your code cause otherwise it will break it

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Well.... It wasn't working anyway. Time to give it a go.

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alright I need to go unfortunately, I hope I helped you at least to some extent 😅

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Oh! It didn't need an uninstall!

They updated it to use either or!

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We shall see. Thanks for your time. 👍

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if you want you can dm me and I will answer tomorrow

cheers