mystic heath
So after DST I got a weird red question mark on my screen that wouldn't go away and I couldn't see any of the live player data to compare my scores. After changing a value of my config text file, I was able to get the question mark off and I can see the leaderboard again, but I still have this photo. Which value in the config file do I have to change to get this "time continuum" thing off?
My PC time has always been synchronized with windows which I think its time.windows.com
sturdy leaf
So you avoided cheater detection by changing a value in config files? You aren't supposed to do that, you cheated and you must face the consequences
Don't be hacking the game and modifying the files
void dragon
hi i realized there is a visual glitch in the beta race and that is i finshed first and got 25 gold uhh cubs from like 8 hours ago but now i opened the race and it sayd that i finshed second from 4 days ago?
mystic heath
So you avoided cheater detection by changing a value in config files? You aren't...
Okay so first off, I never cheated in the first place. I made that quite clear in my first post so its clear your anti-cheat had a false positive and nobody was willing to help me address that. I had to search google and do basic problem solving in order to remove this false positive. Now you are telling me that despite getting a false hit for being a cheater, I am just supposed to sit there and let it happen after I dumped >$100 into the game? Nah.
So let's be clear here, after dumping more than $100 into this game. You are not to tell me what I am supposed to do on my own computer.
So respectfully if you can't offer any assistance please either direct me to where I can get some or don't bother replying with BS accusations
severe galleon
A cheater will never admit that he is a cheater)
mystic heath
A cheater will never admit that he is a cheater)
Okay? So are you insinuating that your game that is currently in BETA testing has the world's first perfect anti-cheat?
mystic heath
A cheater will never admit that he is a cheater)
Come on buddy, with this line of thinking you are insinuating that your anti-cheat is perfect and there are no false positives.
sturdy leaf
A cheater will never admit that he is a cheater)
Actually what this says is that we can't know whether you did cheat or not, because of the fact cheaters might not admit they cheated
I currently feel like hearing you out, but my point is in the back of my mind we'll never be able to know for sure
sturdy leaf
Okay so first off, I never cheated in the first place. I made that quite clear i...
Also you don't lose the benefits of that 100 dollars if you get the cheater mark afaik
severe galleon
Come on buddy, with this line of thinking you are insinuating that your anti-che...
Firstly, the anti-cheat is not mine, since I am not a developer and have no relationship with the creators of the game. Secondly, this is just my opinion. I just made a conclusion based on personal gaming experience.
If I received this "cheater tag", I would be able to prove that I am not a cheater. I know how to find where logs are stored on an Android device, where to find save files - all this can be easily archived and attached here as an attachment.
In more than 1066 hours of playing, I have never received such a label, although I transferred my progress to Steam many times.
And lastly, if suddenly I get this label, I can easily and simply get rid of it by loading a previous save.
mystic heath
Actually what this says is that we can't know whether you did cheat or not, beca...
But its not a fact, that was a BS quip he came up with which is easily invalidated by the infamous "escape from tarkov" video and "The wiggle". I advise you look up that video so you can see how easily invalidated "Cheaters will never admit they are cheating" tagline. If you automatically assume all of your paying customers are cheating, that's just bad business. In addition that >$100 does in fact impact my ability to play because I used that money to get faster times on event sims. If my results don't show on the leaderboard, then I do lose the benefit of the money I put in.
@severe galleon I am not on an android device. I am on the PC. If you can show me how to view my logs on a PC by all means please show me.
You can know whether I cheat or not, because I told you multiple times that I didn't mess with my date and time. Speculation without evidence is just speculation and doesn't really hold up in the real world. All I asked for help, I searched everywhere and there wasn't any links regarding my issue. @sturdy leaf you were no help, you just kept on piling on claims you could not prove.
Your logic of messing with my game files after receiving no help whatsoever is akin to Tesla suing its customers because they found a way to activate the self driving mode without having to go to Tesla itself.
You have to assume I am telling the truth if you don't have any evidence I cheated, obviously the red question mark during BETA isn't the most reliable way of finding cheaters unless you're okay with the false positives but you guys implicitely deneid your beta anti-cheat could create a false positive.
mystic heath
I currently feel like hearing you out, but my point is in the back of my mind we...
So if you wanna hear me out, how do I get my metabit data uncorrupted
severe galleon
You have to assume I am telling the truth if you don't have any evidence I cheat...
This is proof of your cheating. This is a more powerful argument than just words, yours or mine - it doesn’t matter.
And I still don’t understand why none of the developers even showed up in this thread.
If you are so sure that this is a false positive, then why didn’t you load the previous save? This will take a few seconds, and you won’t lose anything if you didn’t buy Darwinium after the last save. Even this issue can be easily resolved through the support service.
Here is screenshot from steam version on Windows 10
severe galleon
Okay so first off, I never cheated in the first place. I made that quite clear i...
How did you Google this? The first link leads to the result. And this is another compelling argument in favor of the fact that you are a cheater.
sturdy leaf
But its not a fact, that was a BS quip he came up with which is easily invalidat...
I see you didn't actually read what I wrote. I didn't say "will never admit", I said "might not admit", which is easily provable as I only need one example. Additionally, there is no basis for the sentence "if you automatically assume all of your paying customers are cheating", as there is no reason to assume this is the case.
On your third paragraph, you appear to claim that because you said you didn't cheat, you didn't cheat, which is extremely faulty logic that doesn't account for this little thing called lying that I am not accusing you of, but am leaving as a possibility. You claim all you asked for is help, but didn't wait to receive it from the actual devs. All you needed to do was wait for an answer, and take their answer when given.
Finally, your Tesla analogy fails as an analogy, as there is no suing equivalent, and the self-driving mode doesn't accurately represent the game file modification. Even if you weren't a cheater before, modifying the files is cheating, so I'd recommend not trying it again. I'll let you off this time, but not the next.
sturdy leaf
So if you wanna hear me out, how do I get my metabit data uncorrupted
This is just a cheap way of trying to achieve your goal of evasion of the detection.
sturdy leaf
This is proof of your cheating. This is a more powerful argument than just words...
I agree that this image is very incriminating, especially with the implication that this is the eighth instance of unreliable times.
As for the devs, they're no doubt busy fixing other bugs and lost saves, ect.
sturdy leaf
Here is screenshot from steam version on Windows 10
Unfortunately it may have been to long since the message popped up to use the saves to go back, but it is definitely the first thing that should be tried here, not modifying the game files.
mystic heath
If you are so sure that this is a false positive, then why didn’t you load the p...
Well I've bought darwiniuum since DST when I first saw the notice. I have no reason to lie. I came here with a legit issue and both of you accused me of lying and cheating. I don't know how your lives have been going but I like to see the good in strangers first before I automatically think they are lying to me. It's a lot easier to get through life this way.
I'm not trying to evade detection because I never cheated in the first place.
I dont know what the incriminating message means. I've asked for help about it but instead you two replied. Then I come to find out you're not devs at all. Just assholes
sturdy leaf
We gave you help, stop complaining and pointlessly insulting us
If it's really a concern, the darwinium might be able to be refunded
Also notice the neutral language I've been using
As neutral as I can, at least
mystic heath
We gave you help, stop complaining and pointlessly insulting us
Then you can stop bringing up the "possibility" of cheating if you don't care for the insults. I don't really notice the useful language, maybe you can help me here.
"So you avoided cheater detection by changing a value in config files? You aren't supposed to do that, you cheated and you must face the consequences"
"I currently feel like hearing you out, but my point is in the back of my mind we'll never be able to know for sure"
So let's get back to my first question. In reference to my photo, what part of the game files correlate with that message? I don't need a morality lesson on what I can and can't do on my $1600 PC.
sturdy leaf
Tf does the price of your PC have to do with the thing you aren't getting help on because you aren't supposed to be doing it
And you have no right to tell us what to do
mystic heath
Well thankfully for you I won't be asking you anymore questions. I figured it out. You are useless.
sturdy leaf
Nice to find a piece of shit once in a while
Now people will be wondering what happened here if they find it
Someone cheated 8 times and hacked into the game to avoid the cheater detection system instead of doing the advised action of using save restore to uncheat, and bitched about people "not helping" while using manipulation tactics to make themselves look innocent
mystic heath
Lmao there is no way you are calling me a piece of shit after providing no help whatsoever and instead just ridiculing me.
Get over yourself
sturdy leaf
Oh yeah, accuse the person that never had to help in the first place and did help in the previous bug report
Now let this thread die in peace
mystic heath
You didnt help in the first bug report, your first answer was "That's the fun part, you can't!" You provided no information.
And then I had to find out for myself that you in fact can
then i make another thread asking a different question and you chimed in with "Oh you shouldn't have done that, you need a time out"
I wouldn't ask you to help me boil water.
sturdy leaf
I told you what happened, shut the fuck up about "not helping"
sturdy leaf
And then I had to find out for myself that you in fact can
By avoiding the consequences
mystic heath
Consequences of what? Daylight Savings Time? Do all of you live in Arizona lmao?
sturdy leaf
Yeah that's exactly what the devs intended
mystic heath
How do you know? You are not a dev
sturdy leaf
Consequences of what? Daylight Savings Time? Do all of you live in Arizona lmao?
Not DST you dumbass, that doesn't trigger the cheater detection 8+ times
mystic heath
Not DST you dumbass, that doesn't trigger the cheater detection 8+ times
Why was my cheater detection triggered 8 times???
mystic heath
What proof do you have of this?
sturdy leaf
The fucking image
sturdy leaf
So after DST I got a weird red question mark on my screen that wouldn't go away ...
Which was taken from here
mystic heath
You have the image of the cheater detection saying that it went off 8 times, but that doesn't mean its bonafide proof of cheating. My Ring doorbell goes off multiple times a day but when I check the recording, nothing is there.
sturdy leaf
How did you Google this? The first link leads to the result. And this is another...
Yeah and I'm sure DST, which is a change of 1 hour, triggered the cheater detection the number of times required from this post (the Reddit image)
I shouldn't even still be replying
mystic heath
Yeah and I'm sure DST, which is a change of 1 hour, triggered the cheater detect...
So besides the image of something akin to a ring camera going off because a mosquito flew in front of the camera what other proof do you have that I cheated besides my proportional response to your disrespect?
mystic heath
I shouldn't even still be replying
Hey nobody really asked you to reply in the first place 🤷♂️
sturdy leaf
So besides the image of something akin to a ring camera going off because a mosq...
I'm tired of your bullshit about the cheater detection system simply faking an instance of cheating
sturdy leaf
Hey nobody really asked you to reply in the first place 🤷♂️
Thanks captain obvious
mystic heath
I'm tired of your bullshit about the cheater detection system simply faking an i...
I didn't say it was faking it, I said it was a false positive. It happens all the time with anti-cheats. Happens all the time with ring cameras. Sometimes anti-cheats get non-cheaters, but it was intended to go after only cheaters. Ring camera is a security system so naturally its intended to watch for intruders but will mistake non-intruders for an intruder.
I'm surprised you never heard of the term false positive before
sturdy leaf
I know what a false positive is, but explain how you think this false positive would have occurred
It's not a believable excuse
mystic heath
Well I have no idea, i assumed it was because of DST because that is when I first saw the mark. I also said before that "I have no idea" and was spitballing
sturdy leaf
Based on my understanding, the cheater detection system takes the amount of time since the last log in an if it's too long, then it marks it as suspicious. If it marks enough times suspicious… well, follow the Reddit post from there
mystic heath
Your understanding being a non-dev right>
sturdy leaf
Too long isn't going to be even three weeks
sturdy leaf
Your understanding being a non-dev right>
I don't need to be a dev to understand how it works
The false positive excuse isn't believable, nor the DST excuse
What's left?
mystic heath
lol the false positive excuse isn't believable? Why?
This is the part where you say "Because we have the world's first perfect anti-cheat with a 0% margin of error"
And then I am going to say "Bullshit"
sturdy leaf
No, because I highly doubt you only log on every three months or longer
Sure it could have a false positive if you don't log on for extremely long times
severe galleon
lol the false positive excuse isn't believable? Why?
This is the part where you...
Well then you have to prove that it's a false positive. Good luck, you will need it)
mystic heath
No, because I highly doubt you only log on every three months or longer
"Sure it COULD have been a false positive if you don't log on for extremely long times"
mystic heath
Well then you have to prove that it's a false positive. Good luck, you will need...
Yeah I can prove it right now. I didn't cheat. You have nothing besides that picture as proof, which I have logically laid out is not enough proof.
The burden of proof lies on the accuser anyway and you accused me of cheating.
sturdy leaf
No, the burden of proof lies on both parties
We have proof you did, and you don't have proof you didn't
mystic heath
So I am closing this post, but if anyone needs help with this. Use this link
https://steamlists.com/tyrants-blessing-how-to-avoid-avoid-having-your-data-collected-by-unity/
Just substitute whatever game they are talking about with "Cell to Singularity"
sturdy leaf
Oh great, now more people can cheat and avoid the consequences
mystic heath
Oh great, now more people can cheat and avoid the consequences
stfu
sturdy leaf
Lol
mystic heath
go cry somewhere else