#Idea taps do not generate Metabits

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digital topaz
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Hi!
It looks like idea tap does not generate metabits for me. When I purchase idea generators, my metabits/s increases accordingly. When I tap for entropy, it also increases threefold. But no change whatsoever when I tap for ideas.

To put it into numbers. I generate 2 269 Metabits/s just with passives. One entropy tap gives me 98,31 No, one idea tap gives me 43,82 No. When tapping entropy at medium speed, I go up to 4 715 Mb/s. When tapping idea at the same speed, there is no difference at all, I stay at (similar to) 2 269 Mb/s.

The screenshots show the three situations, I hope they are readable: a) passive generation with no taps; b) generation with entropy taps (increased Metabits generation); c) generation with idea taps (no increase).

Does that sound regular?

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sterile bluff
quick jewel
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they do, just a really little amount

sterile bluff
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so i got disrupted while answering to this yesterday so here is the rest:
the reason this happens is that your entropy gains are so much greater compared to your idea gain that entropy makes up almost the entirety of your metabit production and increases in idea production are almost not noticeable in your metabit production

quick jewel
digital topaz
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Thanks for your answers, I see the concept of how entropy late game would generate much more than idea, but I don't think that's really the case yet for me. In my passive generation, entropy generates 441 No/s while idea generates 294 No/s, so not even twice the amount. Entropy tap generates a bit more than twice what idea tap generates. So I do generate more entropy, but not "considerably more" and nowhere near a point where entropy represents almost the entirety of generation.

What is also surprising for me is that construction of buildings generating ideas does visibly add to the Metabits generation, but not the idea tap. I took a couple more screenshots. With 145 Martian Cities, I had a passive generation of 294,93No/s ideas, for a total of 1728 Metabits/s. I bought 2 Martian Cities which increased ideas generation to 299 No/s, and Metabits generation went up to 1737 Mb/s. So an increase of 4.07 No/s made a difference of 9 Metabits/s.

When I do Idea tap, I get up to 971,75 No/s ideas, so 672 No/s more than with the increase following the purchase of two martian cities. Yes the Metabits/s stagnate (even slightly lower than before in the screenshot because of natural increase of the price per Metabit).
My question is mostly this: how can a passive increase of 4 No/s ideas have a visible impact on Metabits (+ 9 Mb/s), while idea tap generating 672 Mb/s have zero impact? Is it on purpose that Idea tap does not generate Metabits at all?

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A TL;DR version of the question is:

  • Entropy passive generation: generates Metabits ✅
  • Entropy tap: generates Metabits ✅
  • Idea passive generation: generates Metabits ✅
  • Idea tap: does not generate Metabits ❌
    And this regardless of the weight of entropy-based metabit generation.

Is this on purpose?

quick jewel
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I tried this for myself and it turns out that idea taps actually generate metabits, it's just that idea taps are worth only a very little amount of metabits that it's almost unnoticeable
What's weird about it is my entropy generation is worth 30 billion times more than my idea generation, but entropy taps are only worth around 10~20 times more than idea taps. Don't know if this is intentional, but it does happen to me.(ps I'm in a very late game where I have every single node and generator possible so the case might be different for you

digital topaz
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From what you are saying, it seems that there may be an issue on my client version then, if you generate even a tiny amount of metabits from idea tap. But I can't find the logic, so far, in my case, when a tiny increase in passive generation of ideas gives a visible increase in metabits/s (because I still have low enough entropy generation that passive idea generation makes a visible difference), while an increase 150 times bigger caused by idea taps leads to zero increase.

marsh oxide
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bruh why do you type so long