I dont feel like spending 2K mutagen on cards that will just disappear...
#💬-cells-chat
desert pebble
wanton cedar
Haha I have 10/0 Cynodont Eoraptor and Mosasuar.
and a 2/10 argentinosaursu because the shop hates me
ocean knoll
technically i got fossils while i was gone so i can buy through stuff
this cant be
i cant buy it
nooo
wanton cedar
RIP
wanton cedar
What was goal 100?
desert pebble
Shouldnt take long
ocean knoll
autoclicker power
desert pebble
😁 😁
Just buy some other dinos
To increase the production
And get fossils faster..
wanton cedar
Achievement get!
wanton cedar
now you can see his little crown
ashen summit
||it's a little spoil||
wanton cedar
I mean, the answer is "a bloody big asteroid" and what it can teach us is "not get hit by asteroids"
ocean knoll
already has a few traits that helps it from previous times
wanton cedar
Lv4 herd behaviour is nice
twin lagoon
Yep, nice
ocean knoll
ye i got a few of those cards
only could afford one but tomorrow theres no doubt ill be able to buy a whole load
wanton cedar
Buy how?
ocean knoll
i can nearly get a 5th
quiet hornet
o nice
thick depot
any update about the Beyond?👀
wanton cedar
See pin
gritty zodiac
But winter 2020 ended two days ago!
ocean knoll
yas i got the rank lol
gritty zodiac
The fact that it says Fall/Winter tells me they're now hedging their bets about the November release date 😛
ocean knoll
when i get a different colour of something iam not used to it so it will take time for me to actually like it being there officially lol
twin lagoon
when i get a different colour of something iam not used to it so it will take time for me to actually like it being there officially lol
Of what something
wanton cedar
The Beyond Phase I: Beginning of the wet season 2020
twin lagoon
Lol
ocean knoll
pretty much anything
wanton cedar
Denis you've ruined it we had a nice colour spectrum of people but now there's no blue
thick depot
oh we have a #🦖-paleontologist-chat chat room too
sorry i have been out of the loop for some time now lol
ocean knoll
like if the games logo changes to a diff colour i will prob not find out that the game was still there
does that chat appear when you get the rank cos i remember people talking about it but i couldnt see it?
gritty zodiac
Denis you've ruined it we had a nice colour spectrum of people but now there's no blue
Yes, how rude of me: congrats denis!
twin lagoon
Congrats
gritty zodiac
Yeah, you can only see it with the rank afaik
twin lagoon
Now you have all game-related roles
thick depot
does that chat appear when you get the rank cos i remember people talking about it but i couldnt see it?
@ocean knoll it works that way yea
ocean knoll
look at all the yellow in this chat now
thick depot
there could be a mods chat room and we'll not know👀
wanton cedar
The dev chat room was visible to everyone for a bit lol
gritty zodiac
Yeah 😛 There definitely is a devs room, someone sat on the cloaking device so we could all see
gritty zodiac
Yeah, you can type commands there
thick depot
does it work like ask-archie?
ocean knoll
seems like i got the meso glass now
gritty zodiac
If you go to the channel you can type s!help and it will tell you what things you can ask
thick depot
just checked the channel.
wanton cedar
Only one glass left then?
thick depot
helpful
gritty zodiac
Yep!
wanton cedar
Terminus chamber is another room that inexplicably can't be accessed from the mesozoic valley
gritty zodiac
Terminus chamber is another room that inexplicably exists 😛
Like, we already have an achievement tab
Why is their another, more resource-hungry achievement tab
is THERE*
wanton cedar
I like the concept of pulling together different parts of reality, but some of the chosen end-points seem quite clearly outdated and from previous builds
twin lagoon
Like which particular ones
wanton cedar
At the moment singularity brain and mars all represent the idea tree, and there is only one for entropy and one for mesozoic
Also getting to the singularity before getting to Mars seems an improbable future 😛
glad furnace
The tech tree of life is gonna get wider with the mammal update lol
quiet hornet
yes
wanton cedar
I wonder if they're going to force everyone to restart the main tree. Otherwise it's hard to stick something between mammal and ape.
thick depot
The tech tree of life is gonna get ~~wider ~~ thiccer with the mammal update lol
desert pebble
I wonder if they're going to force everyone to restart the main tree. Otherwise it's hard to stick something between mammal and ape.
Maybe the update could be applied after you reboot....for players who have prestiged
quiet hornet
I wonder if they're going to force everyone to restart the main tree. Otherwise it's hard to stick something between mammal and ape.
nah they wont
wanton cedar
Haha if they don't it'll look very funny when apes is unlocked but everything before it is still locked!
Hey the text for Mosasaur double-hinged jaw trait and for its 75 achievement is the same. I feel robbed of my opportunity to learn a random fact.
Almost the same*
gritty zodiac
Report in bugs!
It's the sort of thing I think the devs would be happy to have pointed out
Speaking of bugs, it's my first time with this one ...
wanton cedar
I consider that bug to be a feature I have yet to unlock
twin lagoon
What are the prestige colours anyway?
Yellow: 0
Cyan: 1
Can anyone tell me the rest?
thick depot
i think that's about it
twin lagoon
Remember, there's until Prestige 10
thick depot
from what i have seen on the subreddit at least
twin lagoon
Each prestige has its own colour
wanton cedar
Maybe the fun is finding out yourself 😉
gritty zodiac
6 is the same colour as the dark face on the Darwinium cube
twin lagoon
Saw it already
6 is the same colour as the dark face on the Darwinium cube
Maybe the fun is finding out yourself 😉
I know some others though
I know there's a dark blue one, and it's orange for 2
wanton cedar
Oooh the dark face on the Dawinium cube is smaller in the menu
thick depot
welp guess i am wrong :\
wanton cedar
Huzzah
wanton cedar
Closer closer. Still not high enough to have a visible impact on my production though.
twin lagoon
That's bad
wanton cedar
I'm wondering if you should just not buy cards until you've unlocked both traits, thus upping the chance they just switch between each other.
quiet hornet
hmm if you think in a way after some time it doesnt matter which card you get
because any upgrade will just
double production
twin lagoon
I guess
wanton cedar
One of the upgrades costs 10,000 mutagen for half a level, the other (theoretically because I haven't seen it) costs 200 😛
I'm unwilling to shell out for this
gritty zodiac
Yeah, that's a bit pricey
twin lagoon
Maybe me too I guess
gritty zodiac
I think you're at the point where patience is the way forward 😛
wanton cedar
Patience requires making peace with the fact that the shop timer is buggy and keeps resetting to 30min for no discernable reaosn
wanton cedar
It's too tantilising to imagine that behind those cards lie 200 mutagen cards that would double and then quadruple and then more my Argentinosaurus
desert pebble
Or it could be the opposite and you get useless cards that wouldnt boost your production even if you bought 100000 of them
gritty zodiac
I just got Live Birth (automator for Icthyosaur) before Thumb Spikes (automator for Iguanadon) >.>
That's a horrible thought Dully!
wanton cedar
I think the game is going "These are your two top dinosaurs and here are cards for them", but shows you the speed card first.
gritty zodiac
I just wish the store would only pull from a pool of your top three or so dinos
wanton cedar
And the speed card unlocks first sooooo
gritty zodiac
Yeah, that bug is really shitty for you to face
wanton cedar
It can't just be me can it? 😛
The real bug is the timer constantly resetting, but I don't have a theory for why that might be happening, so there's not much I can report.
It starts at 30min when I first look at it during the day, but seems to jump back to 30 whenever I reopen it.
Well not whenever, only sometimes, which is the confusing part.
twin lagoon
I wish I had just more Cretaceous cards
I ranked up sometime ago
Top 3 are all Cretaceous, that's why
wanton cedar
😩
Top 3 are all Cretaceous, that's why
@twin lagoon Yeah. Jurassic is the real underperformer.
twin lagoon
That, despite all my Jurassic cards
Is Brachiosaurus the last Jurassic dino?
Ah, it's Iguanodon
But Iguanodon itself was Cretaceous, wasn't it
wanton cedar
Yes. That means Jurassic would be even worse without an error 😛
Maybe it's meant to be earlier related species
twin lagoon
I think it might be Hadrosauriforms, not Iguanodon
Maybe it's meant to be earlier related species
Exactly
Parasaurolophus is actually Cretaceous, but since Ornithischia is a very early clade, it's Triassic
gritty zodiac
Just rename Iguanodon to Hypsilophodontidae
wanton cedar
Iguanadon et al
twin lagoon
True
gritty zodiac
Lower ranks are so fast you spend all your time clicking through geodes, higher ranks are a slog
twin lagoon
Slog?
twin lagoon
Yeah
gritty zodiac
Wiktionary offers "A long, tedious walk, or session of work" which is a great deal more eloquent than my definition 😛
twin lagoon
until they give a option
Option to what
Wiktionary offers "A long, tedious walk, or session of work" which is a great deal more eloquent than my definition 😛
Lol
twin lagoon
Oh yeah
quiet hornet
same
gritty zodiac
To be honest, I'm at the point where I don't even need to see what I get any more; if it's a card I want I'll see it on the main screen because it will be on the dinosaur I'm looking at
wanton cedar
And miss the excitement of the rare parallel evolution drop?
desert pebble
All this is after prestige right?
gritty zodiac
Yeah
And miss the excitement of the rare parallel evolution drop?
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to never have to see antoher stone geode
quiet hornet
🤣
twin lagoon
Like I don't wanna do it at all anymore if not for the boosts
Speaking of boosts
I rebooted some minutes ago
Now I am close again to getting 250 neoaves
After this only sharks remain
twin lagoon
Yeah
primal flax
Cheers.
quiet hornet
yup
twin lagoon
The more metabits the faster the simulation gets
primal flax
Yeah, already reseted it twice.
And just discovered the mechanic to automatically buy max units.
So that's nice.
quiet hornet
yeah
glad cobalt
Does metabits effects mesozoic Valley?
junior saddle
nope
desert pebble
No, but the ranks in Mesozoic affect main simulation
ashen summit
Yes and I find a little too bad...
I think there must have a symbiose btw the main simulation and the mesozoic valley
quiet hornet
actually its a good idea
but honestly idk how they can make it work
maybe number of reboots = speed increase in dino sim
and you need x number of metabits before next reboot in order to get the speed boost
so that they dont exploit it
wanton cedar
It'd be fine the way it is if hte main sim was longer but the current design means the sim that takes longer (mesozoic) makes the faster sim (main) faster, which is backwards
twin lagoon
so that they dont exploit it
Exploit what
quiet hornet
if what i said like applied
like number of reboots = speed increase in dino sim
then like
people can spam reboot
thereby ruining the experience
so like if this existed
and you need x number of metabits before next reboot in order to get the speed boost
junior saddle
oh yes that would be nice
quiet hornet
then like people cant exploit
i'll maybe write a bit on it
in #💡-suggestions or email
wanton cedar
Doesnt spamming reboot help you right now in the main sim?
junior saddle
good idea
quiet hornet
no what i said was a idea
proposed for inproving the speed of the stimulation in mesozioc valley
ashen summit
Or like an update of metabit or just buy something with the ideas and entropies
glad furnace
I meant
ashen summit
Rize of fish 🤣🤣🤣
quiet hornet
according to this
glad furnace
The aquatic update is still barren like Minecraft oceans before 1.13
quiet hornet
lmao nice comparison
glad furnace
Hmm
Yeah
Wonder what's civilization garden gonna be like
Like a village
Where you can see humans walking and working around
ashen summit
so the next update of C2S is the nether?
glad furnace
Nah, it's the village and pillage update lol
We are probably still on 1.9 based on Minecraft
ashen summit
The 2.0 will be a prank so? 🤣
glad furnace
Oof
quiet hornet
And you can zoom in to see human inventions you have unlocked
oh i would love that , now you can just scroll it sideways
glad furnace
Mhm
I think the cellular garden should be updated too
Maybe that's the ????? in the roadmap?
quiet hornet
no the cellular garden will be updated in this update i believe
glad furnace
Oh
glad furnace
Will the mammal tree, solar system garden, planets etc be on one update all together?
quiet hornet
it would come out with the mammal tree
glad furnace
Cool
twin lagoon
Only sharks left
Speaking of which
Should Shark Week be moved?
Maybe beside Regicide
Or is it too special to move?
twin lagoon
Ahah
I mean, the rest are unlocked via currencies and ranking up
But sharks are unlocked by plain ol' time, 84 days
So that's what I mean by "special"
ashen summit
👀
twin lagoon
What?
wanton cedar
The last 6 golden pterosaurs have all been quantum charges 
final flume
Quantam charge? What's that?
wanton cedar
The one you have to pay darwinium for
quiet hornet
^
final flume
Is it the one that accelerates your time? I haven't ever clicked one that costed darwinium...
wanton cedar
It just gives a certain amount of material
and this wa sanother one
this feels very harsh
final flume
I rarely see those. I'll pay more attention
wanton cedar
Presumably the scaling for 250 is horrendous
final flume
I have reset a bunch. I do it pretty often
ashen summit
You're new?
wanton cedar
Can get to neoaves with just one snake
twin lagoon
Awesome
quiet hornet
maybe will try out next reboot lol
twin lagoon
How many are you aiming for
I don't know how many I have at the moment
I'm not really updating my nickname now
wanton cedar
I don't have an aim. Main tree is somewhat finished.
twin lagoon
What's left for you
wanton cedar
Just to see the difference from the first playthrough really
Got all the Mezo Prestiges left to do
quiet hornet
even i do that sometimes
final flume
I have a few left as well
quiet hornet
buying one of each
for like seeing how much they produce
and compare them and stuff
final flume
MV and sharks is all that I have left
quiet hornet
i have MV left
twin lagoon
Already completed 250 neoaves and 200 cities
quiet hornet
stopping it on purpose
on haitus
waiting for a easier geode opening to be released
so that i can push to prestige 10
twin lagoon
Since what prestige does MV start becoming tiring
quiet hornet
Since what prestige does MV start becoming tiring
lol from 2 for me
final flume
Over a year for sure
twin lagoon
Ah
So why haven't you gotten all sharks
Since when were sharks anyway?
lol from 2 for me
That means next prestige for me
quiet hornet
if you didnt play a lot then the daily timer resets
final flume
But it doesn't matter cause the updates change the game so much
quiet hornet
i think it resets after a week
ashen summit
And before there was only one shark
twin lagoon
i think it resets after a week
Oh
And before there was only one shark
Which was?
Yeah i can and go
Oh
ashen summit
The shark of New year
twin lagoon
Wait what
quiet hornet
lol
twin lagoon
Any description?
twin lagoon
Btw
If Moon generators existed, should Mars require those?
Just décoration
Okay then
wanton cedar
Moon generator?
twin lagoon
You know the moon base upgrade right?
So what if it leads to a bunch of full-fledged generators?
wanton cedar
Oh. You mean like have a whole moon section? Yeah I think you'd need to finish those to reach mars.
wanton cedar
gn
primal stump
gn later
final vortex
What is your prestige level on mv?
primal stump
prestige 4
final vortex
im tryna beat prestige 10 but i don't feel like recording videos on it, and i have started a series so i dont want to play until i record a vid
and also i dont think that beating it is anything special
it will just give a small % of simulation speed
final vortex
I was super lazy on prestige 9 lvl 50 because it took 3 days to finish it and when i was on like prestige 5 i didn't even want to play mv because it was too boring
chrome cargo
Lol
wanton cedar
Aww man lv 50 really takes that long even on prestige 9?
quiet hornet
it will just give a small % of simulation speed
oh i thought the same
then i did some math
they stack damn big
and are absolutely useful
subtle nimbus
^
thorn oak
the strat is to just save up 100 Darwinium and go ham everytime
quiet hornet
yes
thorn oak
the Rare traits really adds up
subtle nimbus
Darwinium was pretty hard to get before Mesozoic valley.
You needed several months for 100.
thorn oak
why does it take you that long tho? it's pretty easy to get them with Meso Valley for me
like every 2 Prestige or so
and I'm at max Prestige now lol
quiet hornet
yes its pretty easy to get them from geodes
chrome cargo
Lol
dapper rune
Once you have 178 billion meta bits is there any point I. Restarting simulation?
The only thing I am waiting on is my sharks
chrome cargo
No
final flume
Restarting the simulation allows you to increase your multipliers right? If so, then yes you should restart
final vortex
I have 1 trillion metabits and the game is just completed rn and I don't do anything besides mv
final flume
I assume the next upgrades will be very expensive. I think its good to have as much metabit as possible.
final vortex
Maybe
final flume
@final vortex me too
Considering how quickly they rose to 500m I think its a safe bet!
final vortex
I can imagine how much entropy will the mammals cost, if neoaves were tredecillions
final flume
I reset about once a week
final flume
I'm only at 5 sharks
final vortex
Same
junior saddle
Prestige is the number of "resets" In mesosoic valley @clever seal
lofty coral
Question....
In the mesozoic Valley, after reaching rank 50 and resetting.... Does the game save your mutagens? Or do they get reset too?
junior saddle
Yes it saves your mutagenes
lofty coral
Ohh cool
lofty coral
I'll take two diamond geodes right before resetting then
junior saddle
Yes that's the best use of Darwin ^^
lofty coral
Thanks!
vague steppe
final flume
Does the level ever go above 50???
vague steppe
I think it's supposed to give you a level of prestige and reset to rank 1
vague steppe
I'm pretty sure that's not supposed to happen
vague steppe
Quick, post that in #🏆-share-your-prestige
restive fjord
Guys, what is the best dinoraur?
restive fjord
In mesosoy
vague steppe
It depends a lot in what rank you are and what traits you have developed
restive fjord
ok...
vague steppe
What I do to check that is upgrade the dinosaurs until they don't pay themselves off anymore and see which one is producing the most, that would be your best one atm
vague steppe
By all you mean all? Because upgrading archosaurs at rank 50 is practically useless
Actually, upgrading anything below eoraptors or cynodonts doesn't do much unless you need to complete missions
final flume
It does when your at the lower levels and its all you have though
vague steppe
Of course, but you usually want to upgrade and develop traits of your top 4 more or less
vague steppe
I'm not sure if that would solve it or bug it more
vague steppe
I still haven't prestiged, but I'm at rank 50, so 1st prestige soon for me
olive furnace
What is prestige? ☹️
vague steppe
When you reach rank 50 at meso valley you prestige and reset back to rank 1. But you keep your rare and epic traits
And iirc you also keep the main simulation speed you have built up
gritty zodiac
You also get a 'warm climate' card, which increases your production by 50% of base every prestige
Of course, this has strongly diminishing returns (going from prestige 5->6, a 50% increase in base production bring you from 3.5 times to 4.0 times, which is only a 14% relative increase in production)
gritty zodiac
What do you mean by 'what is the currency'?
Entropy is the base currency in the main simulation. Ideas are the 'lightbulbs', for the idea/civilisation branch in the main simulation
Yes, there's Metabits, which is the prestige currency when you reset
twin lagoon
Well
gritty zodiac
By the end of the year
modest ivy
When exactly is soon
twin lagoon
It will take a while
gritty zodiac
is what 'soon' means
Whether it will actually be out by the end of the year remains to be seen
But we're expecting it in beta by the end of November, assuming nothing goes horribly wrong
modest ivy
I’m wondering exactly what is the beyond
gritty zodiac
The rest of the solar system, afaik
modest ivy
What does afaik mean
gritty zodiac
As Far As I Know
modest ivy
Ok
gritty zodiac
Using it to indicate I don't have any insider information, just what the devs have posted publicly
modest ivy
The rest of the solar system sounds like a cool idea
gritty zodiac
Yeah! If you have a look at the pin in this channel, you'll see the current roadmap
It's not very detailed, though
pseudo saddle
Im only at mv 20 so it'll be out by the rate im going
modest ivy
Imagine if they added a feature so you could evolve life on other planets
That would be cool
formal marsh
Evolving life on other planets could be like the game spore
You can completely edit what the creatures look like
gritty zodiac
Evolving life on other planets could be like the game spore
@formal marsh You mean a massive disappointment? =P
gritty zodiac
because it didn't do most of the things it promised it would do and you could only install it three times because of obscene DRM
Spore was like the biggest disappointment until No Man's Sky came around with similarly grandiose promises that failed to deliver, except at leas the latter has been updated into a decent game
gritty zodiac
There has been a major update for reptiles/birds
leaden plover
Oh, lemme check it out
gritty zodiac
In the next month or two there'll be another one for mammals
gritty zodiac
And by the end of the year there'll be another for "The Beyond", which should be much of the solar system
leaden plover
oh and plant life is understated in this game, just throwing it out there
leaden plover
Actually there's no mention of plants at all lol
gritty zodiac
(see the pin for the roadmap)
Arthropods, plants, and amphibians are planned for future updates
Although no specific timeline for those yet
leaden plover
I'm hoping to get to the Great Beyond, idk if I can before it's released actually
the furthest I've even got in the game is like Martian Factory
that's it
gritty zodiac
There's not much further to go after Martian Factory tbh
You should easily make it to the end of the idea tree in a week, maybe two if you don't play much
gritty zodiac
The recent reptile/bird expansion has made the Main Simulation really pump out metabits, which boosts your speed massively
rancid jolt
but to be able to do that well, you would have to do mesozoic for a bit
rancid jolt
well don't worry, it takes a bit but it's def worth it
gritty zodiac
Yeah, MV does give a nice bit of a boost to production
Plus unlocking the reptile expansion content
Which is the main point piglover was making
And my brain only just connected the dots
What a silly one this puppy is
rancid jolt
well sometimes our dumb ape brain does that
gritty zodiac
I'm particularly clever for a bony fish, but still limited by the fact I'm a bony fish 😛
rancid jolt
the evolution tree is gonna be very crowded with all the additions that these expansions give
gritty zodiac
I'm hoping for more separate things like Mesozoic Valley. I would love an arthropod tree that looked like the things I shared here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/506940509441490947/750870073744556043
or here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/488478892873744385/511658545280712726/740744182326493197
Like, each bifurcation can be a new trait, and each trait unlocks a new animal from that clade and a new trait to lead to the next bifurcation
For full twin-nested hierarchy
rancid jolt
still seems complex with a lot of tabs especially for mobile
gritty zodiac
If you keep the tabs locked until enough progress has been made it will make it easier, as you slowly get used to features, but yeah: getting content in the game while stopping it from becoming complicated bloat is challenging
Which is why I"m a player, not a dev 😛
hasty snow
@rancid jolt And what kind of brain do you think is smarter?
rancid jolt
crab
gritty zodiac
They were just making excuses for my brainfart 😛
rancid jolt
but honestly there is no real smartest brain for why do we think we have the superhumans and cyborgs in the game?
hasty snow
In the game sure
rancid jolt
well humans are both smart and dumb, it's just like a hour to hour basis
chrome cargo
Lol
gritty zodiac
Eoraptor's my baby
gritty zodiac
Because levelling up Eoraptor to ridiculous levels makes the last ten ranks just fly by 😛
subtle nimbus
yeah
gritty zodiac
It's late enough that you don't have to worry about having to upgrade another dino in future, and early enough that it speeds you through basically as much of the game as it's possible for a single dino to do. Not to mention it's an omnivore, so it benefits from both the herbivore and carnivore cards
gritty zodiac
And it got me from <40 to rank 50 in a day 😛
(my current nick is from when I updated it this morning)
I want to use Giganotosaurus but ... it's just too late in the game. By the time you get it you have already carded up something else and it provides basically no boost
Good job Eoraptor! It's time to rest now
clever seal
that's a lot of mutagen
gritty zodiac
That's just what happens when you prestige a few times; the higher ranks in MV give a lot of mutagen, especially if you open a diamond geode at 50, which I have every time I've hit 50. I'm saving it up so I can afford the higher levels of the rare & epic cards, which persist between prestiges
quiet hornet
yes
clever seal
nevah
twin lagoon
Keep on unlocking daily rewards
quiet hornet
^
sand skiff
oh
twin lagoon
Every 14 days, you get another
twin lagoon
What do you mean "just there"
clever seal
or at least, when i obtained my first one a few months ago
it was shown in the acquatic habitat but not in the tree
mild fog
Cynodont
gritty zodiac
Cynodo
twin lagoon
Cynodont is real useful
subtle nimbus
Of course, it's omnivore.
twin lagoon
One of the reasons why, yeah
I'll tell you something
I once thought there would be an Omnivore card
subtle nimbus
Same.
twin lagoon
But it turns out Omnivore is just a combo of being affected by Herbivore and Carnivore
clever seal
it'd be way too op imo
gritty zodiac
How would an omnivore card be more OP than the current structure, where it gets both the effects of herbivore and carnivore?
quiet hornet
hmmm
clever seal
it'd be op if it were applides both carnivore and herbivore plus the omnivore one
sand skiff
how to roles?
clever seal
if they separated it then i guess that'd be fine
twin lagoon
how to roles?
It's explained in various pins
twin lagoon
But if you want me to explain, that's fine
sand skiff
i'll look for it and if i struggle i'll come and ask for help
sand skiff
ok
gritty zodiac
Just felt like making it a table
twin lagoon
Woah
subtle nimbus
Chance of what?
desert pebble
Interesting...🤔
desert pebble
Why does the percentage change keep on decreasing tho?
I thought it was only supposed to increase...
quiet hornet
@gritty zodiac whats the percentage based on ?
subtle nimbus
I still don't understand...
quiet hornet
hmm
gritty zodiac
The Card 'Warm Climate' gives you a boost of 50% of base production each prestige (second column). However, your total relative production increases less, because 50% of base production is a smaller amount of your total production (third column)
So going from a 1 to a 1.5 times multiplier is a 50% boost to production, but oing form a 1.5 times multiplier to a 2 times multiplier is only a 33% relative boost (even if it's a 0.5 times absolute boost)
quiet hornet
it slows only because its cumulative
gritty zodiac
Yeah, the boost stacks additively rather than multiplicatively
Can you imagine if it were multiplicative, though? 1.5^10 = 58 times production at prestige 10
Would be a tad too strong 😛
twin lagoon
Woah
quiet hornet
exponential math is 
wanton cedar
A whole day and not enough fossils to complete a single mission lol
Just felt like making it a table
@gritty zodiac Nice table
Happily the different epic cards are multiplicative with each other, I think
gritty zodiac
Yeah, they are 🙂
wanton cedar
Decisions
gritty zodiac
wanton cedar
I literally do not have the mutagen
gritty zodiac
That sucks 😦 Bad Eoraptor, no play for you!
gritty zodiac
Generally pretty hard to sex a reptile, don't know whether dinos had external genitalia or if they just rubbed cloaca, but since it's Triassic I'd lean towards the latter
wanton cedar
They're probably WZ anyway
twin lagoon
WZ?
wanton cedar
Chromosomes. Not XY like us.
twin lagoon
Oh
wanton cedar
Assuming you are also a human.
twin lagoon
Well
It's a game anyway
Tbh not many would question about things like these
They just wanna level up
wanton cedar
Game flavour is important! It separates today's games from 8bit pong
twin lagoon
Game flavour?
Also
I am seriously starting to question how complex the game will get
I don't want it to get too complicated either
wanton cedar
Flavour, as in the theme, as opposed to the mechanics
SO the mechanics is clicking and maths, but the theme is "evolution" (not just biological)
twin lagoon
Yep
median yoke
Hey guys
quiet hornet
heya
median yoke
I just started playing cells to singularity
quiet hornet
thats great
median yoke
I was wondering when I should reset the simulation
I reached singlularity once
And it forced me to restart
quiet hornet
how many metabits do you have?
median yoke
I’ve reached it again now
twin lagoon
That's fine
twin lagoon
The more metabits the faster things get
wanton cedar
Keep going until it gets super slow then reset. That's what I did.
twin lagoon
Keep going until it gets super slow then reset. That's what I did.
True
median yoke
This is what I have rn
wanton cedar
Most people buy the idle path, which is on the left bottom
quiet hornet
left bottom is always the best
quiet hornet
nothing much i guess
median yoke
Ok tyty
quiet hornet
yw
median yoke
Bottom left right?
quiet hornet
yes
ocean knoll
simulation speed increases the ammount things give you
median yoke
I actually spend some time tapping :3
ocean knoll
so if amino acids gave 1 before and you got 100% more simulation speed it would be 2
wanton cedar
Well if you have some leftover and want to buy a cheap tapping one go ahead
subtle nimbus
I actually spend some time tapping :3
@median yoke you can use autoclicker.
median yoke
which one?
quiet hornet
depends whether you use pc or mobile
for mobile you can find many in the playstore
pc you can google
and download
graceful cloak
?
quiet hornet
@graceful cloak #🇷🇺-pyccкий
@median yoke sadly there is no known autoclicker on iphone till now
because of apples policies
twin lagoon
Yeah
graceful cloak
Ю?
median yoke
They have this auto clicker in the settings
twin lagoon
Maybe Apple considers it cheating
median yoke
however
quiet hornet
they dont @twin lagoon
subtle nimbus
Maybe they consider it cheating
@twin lagoon nope
twin lagoon
Altho can't wait for nanobots now
median yoke
whenever i try to activate it
median yoke
this pop up comes upo and says 'do you agree that this changes certain funcitons'
but it wont let me say yes and carry on
lol
gritty zodiac
Don't worry @twin lagoon , I knew what you meant ❤️
twin lagoon
Lol
twin lagoon
But does it tho
twin lagoon
Oh
subtle nimbus
Really?
twin lagoon
I don't use autoclickers
subtle nimbus
Apple considers autoclickers as cheating?
quiet hornet
apple is over protective tbh
gritty zodiac
Nah, just their security policy for their closed ecosystem
quiet hornet
Apple considers autoclickers as cheating?
lmfao
gritty zodiac
It's part of 1) protecting people from themselves and 2) extorting money from devs
twin lagoon
This is why we'll have nanobots
(I'm trying to keep this game-related)
Nanobots will be for those who won't do autoclickers
quiet hornet
lol understandable
subtle nimbus
They'll be for everyone.
wanton cedar
I like to think Apple just really thinks clicker games need to be finished through manual labour
subtle nimbus
But most useful for people without autoclickers
twin lagoon
I like to think Apple just really thinks clicker games need to be finished through manual labour
Lol
They'll be for everyone.
Actually yeah
But you know what I meant
subtle nimbus
Yep, I know
quiet hornet
yes
twin lagoon
I'd say so
median yoke
or until things get slow like someone suggested before for the other simulaiton?
ah ok
tyty
twin lagoon
Although the extra geodes are nice
But ideally, yeah, restart as soon as it gets slow
gritty zodiac
I disagree with the above answers: don't restart Mesozoic Valley ASAP. Do all the quests first, except the one that requires you to collect shells (that one usually take too long)
twin lagoon
Well then
wanton cedar
Frankly the shell quest never took me much longer than the other extra quests
Back in the single digits and teens
gritty zodiac
Yeah, early on it's fine, but by the 20s it starts adding a significant amount of time to the run
wanton cedar
Why doens't the wiki have the base information for Argentinosaurus and Gigantosaurus?
gritty zodiac
Even in prestige 7 I don't wait for the shell quests after about 15 😛
wanton cedar
There are some levels which have an earlier shell quest and the extras are all dinos.
gritty zodiac
Yep! Those levels are nice
It's like "collect this many shells!" and I'm like "I have to do that anyway, so sure!"
median yoke
I finished the quests because it gave me points to upgrade the traits
I guess I’ll continue doing that after reading what you guys just said
wanton cedar
Traits are good
median yoke
Is it worth saving up for diamond geode? Or is gold enough?
wanton cedar
Diamond is strictly bettter than gold
Gold not worth it
Most people here say to hold off until level 50 to buy the diamond geode though.
twin lagoon
You get the best bang for your buck at Rank 50
At all levels, it will always cost 100 Darwinium
twin lagoon
But as you rank up, it gives you more and more
wanton cedar
Yeah but you've spent more time to rank up, so you're spending more time
Ahhhh traits grow exponentially. I hadn't quite computed how powerful that is before.
median yoke
I’ll@keep saving then
I’m rank 13
When should I buy the diamond geode?
Wait all the way until lvl 50?
desert pebble
Yes
median yoke
ok npo
twin lagoon
But you have to buy before prestige
quiet hornet
@median yoke s!geodes in #742741972745453658 will help
twin lagoon
So what exactly is the order
I got tiger shark before whale shark
Is it broken or what
twin lagoon
Okay
I actually thought there was a different order altogether
Before I saw the real order
Okay brb
agile crag
final flume
Yeah I totally forgot to buy diamond last night before I prestiged
twin lagoon
Oh
junior saddle
wat ?
final flume
My rank got fixed though. I'm not sure why it showed 51 but the n3xt level let me prestige
twin lagoon
Hmmm
vague steppe
Oh, so leveling up once more fixed that?
final flume
Yep
And I feel like it might have skipped level 50 but who knows, maybe it will happen to somone else
vague steppe
Maybe, did you take a screenshot of that? Atm you may be the only person that has reached lvl 51
final flume
I did! I posted it here
vague steppe
Oh, right! I forgot
twin lagoon
Where?
vague steppe
I mean, you should totally post it in #🏆-share-your-prestige , who else has reached lvl 51?
quiet hornet
@vague steppe that seems like a bug lool , would recommend posting it in #🏆-share-your-prestige
final flume
Its a bug for sure
desert pebble
Why am i still getting this!!!
Its soooo infuriating!!!
And a massive waste of time and fossils which could be used for something else...
vague steppe
Well, of course it's a bug, but no one else had reached lvl 51, so it's smth prestigious
quiet hornet
@final flume well can you please post it in #494997744759603201 and mention how you did that , would be crucial to fix it
final flume
It was me
normal rover
Ho
quiet hornet
sorry wrong person ping
final flume
I just did. Not much to it, just leveled
I'm almost level 40 for prestige 7. I'll see if it happens again
vague steppe
Maybe this time you'll reach lvl 52 lol
vague steppe
Prestige 10 is the maximum?
desert pebble
Yes
There are 50 lvls with 10 prestiges per level so roughly 500 levels
If i remember correctly?!?
final flume
Pretty sure I just skipped level 40 in prestige 7. Lol
vague steppe
Wdym? Your level just went automatically to 41?
final flume
39 to 41
vague steppe
Well, it seems like you'll have a lvl 51 again
twin lagoon
So far
final flume
Well if I keep skipping levels....
wanton cedar
You've discovered a secret power
vague steppe
You have skipped another level? At this rate you'll get to lvl 60
wanton cedar
Nah it's odd levels so they'll hit 61
final flume
I got level 44. Broke the curse
clever seal
each prestige is gonna be faster tho 👀
final flume
Yeah but I'm skipping levels
quiet hornet
hmm did you use a autoclicker during clicking next levels
formal marsh
@gritty zodiac I don’t mean EXACTLY like the game spore, I mean you can edit the creatures with various parts and maybe even play as them.
junior saddle
@everyone do someone knows what is the secret Google Play achievement on mobile version ?
desert pebble
That depends, what achievements do you already have
remote needle
Thank god everyone pings don't actually work here
gritty zodiac
I was just joking @formal marsh 🙂 Spore the concept was awesome
median yoke
Does prestige work in both simulation and Mesozoic valley?
gritty zodiac
They're two separate prestiges; prestiging in the Main Simulation only affects the Main Simulation and vice versa
formal marsh
@gritty zodiac ok
urban osprey
Someone else crashes when entering the Mesozoic dimension? ;-;
wanton cedar
Does anyone know the base payout and time for Argentinosaurus?
wanton cedar
Oh well. I'll try to remember to see it next prestige
wanton cedar
A stone geode blessing
mild fog
What does the reality expert role mean again?
gritty zodiac
Have earned one million metabits
Details of the roles can be found pinned in the #🏆-share-your-prestige channel 🙂
desert pebble
Just 3 more to get more birds (I dont know what its called...ostrich?)
And 20 more to my first prestige!!
wanton cedar
Palaeognathae
Although I don't fully understand why that unlocks after Anseriformes and Galliformes
desert pebble
And what level are the Neoaves unlocked?
wanton cedar
38 I think
desert pebble
Hmm...
twin lagoon
By Sunday I'll get the 4th shark
gritty zodiac
Nearly finished prestige 7. Powered through it because I really hate the colour scheme
verbal fog
I'm trying to understand offline-gains and the bonuses to them I can buy with Metabits: Since the Simulation statistic button says that base offline rate is 20%, any bonus is a multiplier to this, right? So letting the game run in background will always be at least 3 times as efficient, am I right?
verbal fog
@gritty zodiac Thx
gritty zodiac
In the Main Simulation, all the upgrades get you up to 32.3% of online gains as offline gains