Honkai Star Rail

[hollow gorge]

its more for

MoC i'd imagine

so u can 0turn her

[frozen spoke]

i mean moc

i mean

do you not just slap 3 supports on 2 hyper carry chars

unless the boss is sam or the spike thing

[hollow gorge]

I mean, depends

I personally still use fu xuan pela hanya acheron as a team

since fu xuan buffs the crit rate = goated tank
pela shreds def
hanya boosts speed to desired stat
And acheron well, acherons

[frozen spoke]

fair

either way

i got 0 temptation for acheron considering all this

and no matter how dogshit or insane ||firefly|| will be

ez e6

[hollow gorge]

fair enough

be like that guy

who pulled 100 lc for acheron

to show his dedication

[frozen spoke]

commendable

[hollow gorge]

https://www.hoyolab.com/article/26455663

[frozen spoke]

prayge it wont take me more than 500-600 pulls for e6s1 💀

[hollow gorge]

it will 100%

[frozen spoke]

nah bro

we went from like 33m earned in february

to 99 in march

and acheron was released in the last 5 days of march or smt 💀

shit was wild

[hollow gorge]

u should realise the correct math is
70 x 2 for each Eidolon
70 x 1 for lc

So for E6s1 - 900 ~ish pulls

on average, then, reduce around 200 pulls

[frozen spoke]

meh

thats on paper

but talking to people

it took them from like 300 to 700

[hollow gorge]

it can take around 600/700

ye

like that's the average

[frozen spoke]

so its different

[hollow gorge]

good case is like 300/400 pulls

bad case is like 900+ pulls

[frozen spoke]

im already 50 pity on like char banner and lc

so i got 100 pulls saved up

on that alone

[frozen spoke]

well see

ill prob stream the pulls

so gonna hit you all up if any1 wants to watch

[hollow gorge]

[frozen spoke]

gonna have like 500 pulls before 2.3 rolls up

[hollow gorge]

ez

[frozen spoke]

• all of the pulls ill be buying on top of that

so its ez

[hollow gorge]

w/ or w/ out topup

[frozen spoke]

with the patch+top up

but not a big one

like a 100-200e top up per patch

[hollow gorge]

ah, fair

[frozen spoke]

so

might have more?

but lets say 400+ at the very least at the start of 2.3

• all the pulls ill buy at the release of the patch

i think ill realisticaly buy up to 500 pulls before the patch rolls up

and then check how many more i need once i pull all 500

cuz ill have a solid 100 maybe? from the embers

[hollow gorge]

i'll say

only buy

once u realise u need more

not before

[frozen spoke]

ye

[hollow gorge]

so like pull whatever u can

then purchase

[frozen spoke]

ill just invest 200e per patch like i would normally do

and then sit on it

on the day of the patch

ahhh

depends if ||firefly|| is 1st or 2nd as welll

if the chars 2nd round

im gonna be depressed af

[celest crane]

damn

[near hill]

most of it is noname line splitting

coz hes not sane

[hollow geode]

@near hill yo dumbass

why are you giving me back luck

im on 80 pulls on acheron

and havent even gotten a 5 star

you fucking dog stop giving me your bad luck

[rigid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-juice-hsr-copium-juice-honkai-star-rail-copium-gif-3701756707416902649

[near hill]

hope you lose 50/50

[near hill]

based

[hollow geode]

i hope you die tomorrow :3

[rigid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/kafka-honkai-star-rail-honkai-out-bye-gif-9388166532899739678

[near hill]

Real tho

[hollow geode]

I lost 50/50 to bailu

[hollow gorge]

g g

[near hill]

HAHAHAHAHA

loser nerd

[frozen spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/luvvrouge/status/1775290245606473986 accurate depiction of playing on fleekys acc @near hill

[near hill]

Well youre not playing on my acc

[frozen spoke]

No but @upbeat rover

Is

[hollow geode]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488037455727951886/1225032663346184212/image.png?ex=661fa792&is=660d3292&hm=2a4e4cf2351a5b26f22c82eebe0e3cc9e2fde52ebc9df975fad18b216748a880&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=317

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488037455727951886/1225032663346184212/image.png?ex=661fa792&is=660d3292&hm=2a4e4cf2351a5b26f22c82eebe0e3cc9e2fde52ebc9df975fad18b216748a880&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=317

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/488037455727951886/1225032663346184212/image.png?ex=661fa792&is=660d3292&hm=2a4e4cf2351a5b26f22c82eebe0e3cc9e2fde52ebc9df975fad18b216748a880&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=317

[frozen spoke]

Early?

[hollow geode]

after 2 wishes.

all i m gonna say.

i skipped it as well LOL

[frozen spoke]

Lol

Gz

[hollow geode]

thinking its trash

the game heard my cries

[near hill]

For a second I thought

E2

Congrats

[hollow geode]

nah just hyped ngl

[near hill]

Im at 65 pity

Waiting salary

These hoes better give me my money

[hollow geode]

get better i got her with 0 pity

[near hill]

Its 2 not 0

[hollow geode]

1 🤓

[near hill]

Just win 50/50

Idk

[hollow geode]

i did

basically got a free healer on the way there thats all there is to it

[near hill]

You lost

I lost it to welt

Which ill use on her team

You got 2 nihility for her?

[hollow geode]

no.

[near hill]

[hollow geode]

pela good enough debuff :3

[near hill]

You need another

[hollow geode]

nuh uh

[near hill]

Are u dumb

Check the numbers

[hollow geode]

(i know)

lemme be happy for now ty

piss off to work

[near hill]

I have pela e6 and welt

With the new healer

Which also applies debuffs

[hollow gorge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YccbKl9m2Ys

SO HIGH

LET ME SHOOOOOOOOOW

AND HEAR MY DECLARATIOON

WELCOME TO MYYYY

WOOORRRLD

RENEW YOUR DEFINITIOOON

SO HIGH

LET ME SHOOOOOOW

AND HEAR MY DECLARAAAATION

I love robin so much

https://tenor.com/fxUXRfZmxG9.gif

[near hill]

Its notttt that deep

[hollow gorge]

You're not that deep

[hollow gorge]

Also the song bangs

[frozen spoke]

nah fleekys a downer

dont let him influence you

[hollow gorge]

su universe damage goin brr

Started farming Swarm Disaster

so i can pull for acheron 1 more time

for free

then after i finish swarm disaster

I go to Golden gears

and then i will finally also finish all the companion missions

I should get another like 50 pulls total

if i win 50/50, i get her to E4

[hollow gorge]

(copium, i didnt do math)

But its like

15 pulls from each Swarm + Golden Gears

• also companion missions

• also battlepass & daily login

• dailies

So its probably close to 50

and already at 25 pity

sooo

[upbeat rover]

XD

[frozen spoke]

@near hill

[near hill]

WOAHHH

🥵

[hollow geode]

i think this is cooler though.

[frozen spoke]

i think my 90% winrate on 50-50s is slightly cooler

[hollow geode]

@rigid fern

she will tell you herself

[rigid fern]

HAHAHAHAH

[frozen spoke]

wat

[rigid fern]

I never lost a 50/50

[frozen spoke]

lmao

how many units do you have

[rigid fern]

(But I didn’t wish as much as you probably)

I have all the 5* limited guy char

That’s all

[frozen spoke]

bro hoiw many is that 😭

these are all my 5 star chars

doesnt display eidolon lvls

or show sig lcs

wait

[hollow geode]

i think we are drifting from the point that

we talking about 50/50 losses

not how many.

[frozen spoke]

i think it does make a difference if some1 pulls 20 times loses twice and some1 pulls 5 times and loses 0

but for her to have all limited male char without losing a 50 is impressive

[hollow geode]

didnt you say statistics 90%

[rigid fern]

Yeah I didn’t wish that many times

I took too many breaks between playing

[hard silo]

omg is that ur main?

[upbeat rover]

@near hill get better

[hard silo]

wtf thats more limited 5 stats than me

any of them with sig lc or eidolons?

[frozen spoke]

e1 blade

and almost all dps have sig

[hard silo]

ah

i have more eidolons then

[frozen spoke]

i usually get a char then eidolons on reruns

need to get huohuo and ruanmei e1

[hard silo]

i mean i usaully dont go for eidolons

but if i really like a character

i will go for eidolons

[frozen spoke]

but gonna chill for 2 patches with pulling cuz i want to e6 someone

[hard silo]

e6 who

[frozen spoke]

||firefly/sam||

[hard silo]

i mean we both know yo're not f2p

ah

[frozen spoke]

ye lol

[hard silo]

i was considering e6 s5 acheron

but im saving for an apartment atm

waste of cash

[frozen spoke]

true

i live at my parents so i got disposable income like that

[hard silo]

I dont

[frozen spoke]

and ive been tame with only putting 100-200e per patch

[hard silo]

I live alone

"tame"

[frozen spoke]

might spend a wee bit more for a short while after i e6 her

[hard silo]

200 is not tame

[frozen spoke]

depemnds on chars

[hard silo]

its called being privileged

but like yeah i get what u mean

I also drop 200 per patch

[frozen spoke]

i got like 0 things to pay for

[hard silo]

acheron did not treat me well

[frozen spoke]

so i got the spare income

[hard silo]

lol......

[frozen spoke]

💀

[hard silo]

80 pity clara

[frozen spoke]

thats rough

[hard silo]

87 pity acheron

[frozen spoke]

bad omen for sure

[hard silo]

then i pulled clara at 40 pulls

which im p happy about

guranteed jing liu

or aventurine

i dunno who im going for

but then the lc also shafted me

bronya lc lost the 75 25 LOOOOOOL!

[frozen spoke]

unfortunately im skipping aventurine cuz i got luocha and fx

and i need to get huohuo

[hard silo]

i mean it was about to happen

[frozen spoke]

so healers and tanks concerned i shouldnt get anymore lol

but i like his char a lot

[hard silo]

im considering jingliu or aventurine

from one side i dont really need sustainers because i 0 cycle everything

on the other side hes a gambler thatll make my fua team even better

do u 0 cycle?

[frozen spoke]

i prob can?

i just dont try

[hard silo]

i do

[frozen spoke]

i kinda just auto most of moc

[hard silo]

theres not much to do after ur done with the game atm

[frozen spoke]

thats why i hate sw

[hard silo]

so moc12 becomes your playground

[frozen spoke]

true iq

im just doing achievements for now

[hard silo]

i mean conandrum 12 is also a playground

i just dont like it

i did everything

achievements secrets etc etc

i need to lose 2 more

[frozen spoke]

lol.

idk man

i only ever lost 3 50s

[hard silo]

i want her e6

haha......

[frozen spoke]

and they were mostly early 50s

[hard silo]

my girlfriend is much luckier than me

i let her to do my e6 dhil pulls

she lost 1 5050 and it was a double 5 star

[frozen spoke]

btw yhow many pulls did it take you on average for a e6 unit

im counting on 500-800

[hard silo]

lol

UHHH

uhh

i only have 1 e6 on hsr

and it took me 360?

[frozen spoke]

yeah

what im hearing

[hard silo]

like i said most of them were very lucky

[frozen spoke]

i mean yeah

[hard silo]

i'd ay

650 is the average

[frozen spoke]

ive mostly seen people say between 300 and 800

but realisticaly itll take me somewhere in the middle

but were gonna see

[hard silo]

650 is average

300 is just impossible

[frozen spoke]

i mean ive had one lad say 1.4k

[hard silo]

well not impossible but low

impossible

its 650

[frozen spoke]

i think he e6s5

[hard silo]

give or take a hundred or

[frozen spoke]

tbf

nah

blud went like

hard pity

every time

[hard silo]

1400 pulls is like

[frozen spoke]

it was insane

[hard silo]

more than enough for e6 s5

lool

[frozen spoke]

either way

that was a very unlucky example

but yeah

[hard silo]

i got e6 neuvillette in 325 wishes

[frozen spoke]

im hoping for 650

[hard silo]

thats the luckiest ive been

[frozen spoke]

at the most

[hard silo]

i just realized

most of my genshin c6 characters

were lucky

[frozen spoke]

ill prob have 500 or 600 at the start of 2.3

then ill just swipe the rest

[hard silo]

the purchase refresh is honestly nice

[frozen spoke]

for sure

[hard silo]

but i already used it.,

[frozen spoke]

same

i still got 2 packs left

[hard silo]

i got none

[frozen spoke]

gonna get those in a bit lol

[hard silo]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-star-rail-firefly-star-rail-firefly-gif-4958870181767317053

[frozen spoke]

i love her so much

[hard silo]

im getting her too

gonna get jingliu then lay low for robin and bootyhole runs since idrc about them

[frozen spoke]

im hopeful shell be on acherons lvl cuz mihoyo likes money :)

and shes giga popular

[hard silo]

acheron

isnt even that good

tbhj

[frozen spoke]

idk man

bit of a cope take

[hard silo]

shes defo good

[frozen spoke]

like at e0

she hits for 300k at the very minimujm

with low investment

she has the same ceiling as jl

[hard silo]

cope take how

[frozen spoke]

just way more dmg

and her dmg is frontloaded

[hard silo]

not really

[near hill]

Its that boss 💀💀

[hard silo]

shes very restrictive which makes her less enjoyable

unless you decide to e2

[frozen spoke]

how so

[hard silo]

which is not a choice everyone has

ur forced to running 2 nihilty or sparkle with pela

[frozen spoke]

i meannn

i dont really think so?

everyone should have pela by now

[hard silo]

and one of those nihilitys are limited

[frozen spoke]

and you can pop in unpopular chars like sampo and guinafen

as 2nd nihility

and you can run fire mc

which is nice

[hard silo]

what im trying to say is that shes very f2p unfriendly

[frozen spoke]

for some people

and if you have gepie thats even better

she makes a lot of unpopular units viable

i think that helps her case as well

[hard silo]

literally most of her best units are gacha exclusive

(bs sw sparkle)

[frozen spoke]

i mean

you can just not run them?

the people who dont have those units

[hard silo]

and you're losing on damage

[frozen spoke]

need a strong dps anyway

and acheron is the strongest in the game atm

[hard silo]

also

[frozen spoke]

even without them

[hard silo]

if you wanna consider recent events

we all got a dr ratio

[frozen spoke]

like if we compare e0s0 chars with not ideal team comps

[hard silo]

whcih also needs debuffers

[frozen spoke]

youd still run acheron over everyone else

[hard silo]

new players will have to choose between acheron or ratio

in moc scenarios when you need 2 teams

[frozen spoke]

i mean.

by that logic isnt everyone a bad dps then/

[hard silo]

getting an ideal jingliu comp going is much easier than getting an ideal acheron comp

[frozen spoke]

since they all want debuffers

[hard silo]

not really no

you dont get it

[frozen spoke]

idk im trying to

[hard silo]

they need debuffs to even work properly

[frozen spoke]

but if i put acheron in a semy decent team and on the other any1 else like dhil jl or even blade

no one is gonna perform as well as her with the units given>

[hard silo]

idk

[frozen spoke]

how dogshit would it be to play dhil without ty or sparkle or ruan mei

[hard silo]

ive had more sucess with e0s1 jingliu then e0s1 acheron

thats fair

but dhil still works very well with hanya ty sustain

its how he was played for ages at this point

or replace hanya w/ yukong

[frozen spoke]

you can do the same for acheron

you can use 2 dots

[hard silo]

you just have to properly manage your sp

[frozen spoke]

in her team

since theyre nihility

[hard silo]

the only thing

[frozen spoke]

you get the dmg% buff anyway

[hard silo]

i like about acheron

is that she makes welt sustain viable

dont get me wrong I love her but shes really f2p friendly

[frozen spoke]

welt sustain

[hard silo]

the most f2p unfriendly

(

**

my bad

sustain we had

yeah you know what welt sustain is right

or do you want me to breifly explain

[frozen spoke]

i do

its just

[hard silo]

exactly

[frozen spoke]

so bad 💀

[hard silo]

no?

what

[frozen spoke]

idk man

[hard silo]

r u playing it correctly

[frozen spoke]

id never in my life take welt over huohuo fx or luocha

[hard silo]

idk

it lets u run harmony

since u use welt as ur sustain

which is really nice imo

[frozen spoke]

that is only for acheron tho

[hard silo]

yea

[frozen spoke]

welt sustain for normal teams is just

[hard silo]

like i said she makes welt sustain viable

yeah

[frozen spoke]

but yeah i agree there

[hard silo]

ill never run welt sustain over an actual sustain

[frozen spoke]

welt sustain pela or any other nihility char with a good harmony

you dont need anything more anyway

[hard silo]

yeah

[frozen spoke]

and tbf

[hard silo]

but like i said the problem is that most good harmonies are locked behind a premium wall

[frozen spoke]

what is even f2p unfriendly nowadays?

[hard silo]

uhh

[red sleet]

Congratulations @hard silo, you just advanced to level 10!
@hard silo you earned the role Protector for reaching level 10 🎉

[hard silo]

hardly reliant on other units

[frozen spoke]

you get a few good relics and most average hsr players are gonna call you out

i dont think you comprehend just how ill in the head the average gacha player is

i mean there is a video above

about the kid screaming cuz he cant beat the boss fight

[hard silo]

oh dont get me wrong

[frozen spoke]

and his dhil uses a 3star lc and his argenti is 13/160

[hard silo]

i had a friend break his wall because he lost to the aventurine boss

[frozen spoke]

so the average player wont know what welt sustain is

or other stuff

[hard silo]

yea

[frozen spoke]

and lets not start talking about spd breakpoints 💀

[hard silo]

speed breakpoints are basic knowledge

at this point

[frozen spoke]

it really isnt

lol

[hard silo]

it is

[frozen spoke]

for us

not other people

see

were basically completely out of touch

[hard silo]

i teach everyone that plays hsr about breakpoints

[frozen spoke]

remember when everyone was complaining about aventurine?

[hard silo]

well its a metaslave vs metaslave convo

[frozen spoke]

exactly

[hard silo]

half of the people complaining about avneturine

were using like

3 dpsers and 1 sustain

u cant rlly take them seriously

they use the most unsyncornized teams imagineable

[frozen spoke]

average players

[hard silo]

but im talking from a full on metaslave prespctive

[frozen spoke]

most of em is most of the playerbase

[hard silo]

and i think acheron is an ass pull for a new player

[frozen spoke]

that is true

[hard silo]

especiall when jingliu is just around the corner

[frozen spoke]

from a metaslave viewpoint

like i would never pull blade without sig

either

[hard silo]

jingliu works with literally anything

[frozen spoke]

but then again i would never pull blade in a rerunn

chad was left behind in the dust

sadge

[hard silo]

from a metaslave prespective you wouldnt even pull blade in the first place

same with argenti and seele

seele is still useable but she needs a premium team

like the most premium of them all

[frozen spoke]

agreed

[hard silo]

like sw sparkle fu xuan

[frozen spoke]

but at the end of the day

if ur pulling for meta

ur a cuck anyway

its a singleplayer game

[hard silo]

not rlly

[frozen spoke]

jing yuan flashbacks

[hard silo]

ur futureproofing ur account

[frozen spoke]

people are clearing all content with full 4 star teams?

[hard silo]

look i pulled e0s1 jing yuan even tho i knew he was ass

[frozen spoke]

like no pull accs

[hard silo]

for now

the content is only getting harder

this moc had a 1.6m hp sam

[frozen spoke]

you just need good relics

theyre nerfing moc hp

and buffing the buffs

for that reason

[hard silo]

||next patch theyre adding multiple break bars||

the game will get harder

also once again we're talking from a metaslave point of view

do you think the average player will try to get godrolls on all of their dpsers?

[frozen spoke]

nope

[hard silo]

and their supports

exactly

[frozen spoke]

but the average player doesnt clear most of the content cuz of a skill issue anyway

[hard silo]

idk

i know average players that can moc 12 just fine

[frozen spoke]

im just saying that its possible to clear all content

with a full f2p team

just need good investment

[hard silo]

its getting harder

ive seen some no pull accounts struggling now

most of the no pull youtubers have struggled on this moc

and the last moc

especially now when theyre releasing specific bosses

like the fucking worm

you're basically done for if you dont have dot units or insane built units

who knows when theyll add more bosses with phases into moc

[frozen spoke]

they are

[hard silo]

im not a metaslave by any means either I pull for characters i like rather than meta

[frozen spoke]

they just need to buff the buffs

and its g

[hard silo]

idk

i want the game to get harder

tbh

[frozen spoke]

it is tho

but were both whales brother 💀

[hard silo]

yeah i want it to get harder quicker

[frozen spoke]

the game is never gonna be hard for us

[hard silo]

whales aside

most of my characters are e0s1

[frozen spoke]

same

[hard silo]

you can get 2 e0s1 teams as f2p

[frozen spoke]

but i assume they have good stats

and ur not dogshit at the game

[hard silo]

mhm

[frozen spoke]

just get dhil and jl and you can brute force all moc stages

[red sleet]

Congratulations @frozen spoke, you just advanced to level 12!

[hard silo]

exactly

jl is better than acheron for brute force

and we both know casual players lack brains

[frozen spoke]

idk dawg

[hard silo]

you're bringing us back to the start

[frozen spoke]

her ult ignores weakness

[hard silo]

yeah thats so nice tbh

i mean idk man

most of my characters are really well built

[frozen spoke]

i dont think were gonna get a consensus out of this

[hard silo]

yeah

[frozen spoke]

because i wholeheartedly believe even if you had noone acheron is still a insane char to pull for

[hard silo]

but can you still agree with me that shes more f2p unfriendly than jingliu for example

[frozen spoke]

that was never a question

[hard silo]

now i'd disagree

[frozen spoke]

her lc is 20%+ buff

thats insanity

[hard silo]

so is acherons

her second bis is 17%? worse (gnsw)

and you have to s5 it

[frozen spoke]

at s5 as well

[hard silo]

its a gacha exclusive

[frozen spoke]

and the herta lc is dogshit

[hard silo]

jinglius second bis is the hereta lc

[frozen spoke]

btw

||were getting a acheron event lc im pretty sure next patch?||

since everyone is complaining about that

[hard silo]

i love the art of that lc

its so good

[frozen spoke]

ye

so that makes her f2p accesible

imo

like aventurine is getting a insane event lc

[hard silo]

im p sure

[frozen spoke]

the sw event lc is also one of the best

[hard silo]

its still worse than gnsw

[frozen spoke]

and it was introduced in 1.1

[frozen spoke]

is it?

[hard silo]

the sw event lc is insane

yeah if im not wrong

[frozen spoke]

didnt check the numberts

[hard silo]

me neither yet

but idt its better than s5 gnsw

idk man a s5 gnsw as f2p is much harder to get than a e5 hereta lc

[frozen spoke]

this cant be real dawg

[hard silo]

and their banners are so close apart that jing liu is just a better pull

[frozen spoke]

[hard silo]

we got official announcement that march will get multiple forms relating to her memory on the 2.1 stream

[frozen spoke]

i cant agree with that

[hard silo]

and hxg diluc is semi reliable

[frozen spoke]

wait rly?

[hard silo]

how so?

yea

we did

[frozen spoke]

if im pulling e0s0

im getting acheron over jl

in my personal opinion

[hard silo]

the average player

doesnt have

e5

gnsw tho

and like after gnsw

theres nothing better

it all goes downhill quick

i still like both and i think you can bruteforce just about everything with both

[frozen spoke]

this is horrid to look at tbh

[hard silo]

exactly

2 limited gacha eclusive lcs

then a perm gacha exclusive

exclude pearls entirely since you want it on your pela

spoiler it

[frozen spoke]

forgot

[hard silo]

not everyone knows about it here i think

[frozen spoke]

this is a event lc?

next patch

[hard silo]

everyone here is new or casual

yea

i think thats the one

[frozen spoke]

man

thats

[hard silo]

lol.

[frozen spoke]

gonna be s5

cuz its a event lc

[hard silo]

i mean

like i said

[frozen spoke]

its gonna be better than gnsw for sure

[hard silo]

idk

we'll have to wait for calcs

btw

since u have acheron

[frozen spoke]

i dont

dont like her char that much

atm

im waiting for her to grow on me before i pull

[hard silo]

ah

well

if you do

[frozen spoke]

im in no rush anyway

[hard silo]

here is the ehr you need for perals pela

[frozen spoke]

shell have a rerunn down the line

[hard silo]

FORMULA: Base chance x (1 + effect hit rate) x (1 - effect res)

EHR needed for pela
without resolution: 67% ehr
1 x (1+0.67) x (1-0.4) = 1.002

s1 resolution: 178% ehr
0.60 x (1+1.78) x (1-0.4) = 1.0008

s2 resolution: 139% ehr
0.7 x (1+1.39) x (1-0.4) = 1.0038

s3 resolution: 109% ehr
0.8 x (1+1.09) x (1-0.4) = 1.0032

s4 resolution: 86% ehr
0.9 x (1+0.86) x (1-0.4) = 1.0044

s5 resolution: 67% ehr
1 x (1+0.67) x (1-0.4) = 1.002

[frozen spoke]

idk man

[hard silo]

i have e0s1 acheron and shes honestly fun as fuck

[frozen spoke]

i got both pela at 67% ehr and the lc at s5

[hard silo]

but idk not being able to run harmony with her is such a ick for me

the only harmony she uses is sparkle

[frozen spoke]

i think thats a +

since you can run harmony for other chars :D

[hard silo]

its a -

fair

but like

[frozen spoke]

you can perma run ty on the 2nd team

cuz she doesnt profit from her

[hard silo]

we have 4 insane harmonies

[frozen spoke]

like blade either

[hard silo]

u can just have 2 and 2

lol

[frozen spoke]

f2p

dont have

a single tho?

[hard silo]

?

[frozen spoke]

thats a bit far

lets say

the average player

has

ty

[hard silo]

lets say f2p has 3

[frozen spoke]

and 1 5 star harmony char

[hard silo]

4

2

bronya is basically free

from the selector

[frozen spoke]

woah there

sure

[hard silo]

and lets just say you pulled for rm or sparkle

then you have asta ty and yukong

[frozen spoke]

and you got ty somewhere down the line

[hard silo]

even if you didnt pull for harmony

thats still 4 harmonies

[frozen spoke]

you have a decent bit yeah

[hard silo]

lets say your other dps needs 2 and acheron needs 1

unless you have sparkle to run her with

its a negative

considering most of our 4 star nihilty options are ass

if you have black swan i'd say acheron is a better pull than jing liu

i just dont think theres any 4* nihilty thats worth praise other than pela

[frozen spoke]

idk man

[hard silo]

acherons problem is that shes a crit based dps thats forced into a category with mainly dot characters

because of her passive

[frozen spoke]

im skipping boothill

but that char is cool af

[hard silo]

dont get me wrong tho shes still insane

IKR

[frozen spoke]

especially the lore drop in his lc

[hard silo]

hes also

insanely easy to build

bootyhole scales off BE and not crit

ur looking for 1 stat instead of 2

its so

unfair

[frozen spoke]

lol

[hard silo]

idk tho hes hunt so he has that against him

[frozen spoke]

||+ new tb form is a be harmony supp ||

so hes f2p friendly

as far as im concerned

[hard silo]

yea

hes very f2p friendly

ill agree with that

[frozen spoke]

big downside is that ruan mei is a INSANE partner for him

but if you skipped ruan mei for any reason

[hard silo]

yeah but you dont need to have ruan mei

i dont have ruan mei

lol...

[frozen spoke]

its just

[hard silo]

i just never liked her

[frozen spoke]

[hard silo]

so i didnt bother pulling

[frozen spoke]

she was semy interesting and a hot woman

good enough imo

[hard silo]

like i said im not really meta slave

[frozen spoke]

like

[hard silo]

i love my sparkle

[frozen spoke]

i would prob have pulled e2s1 acheron

if i wasnt saving for my e6

[hard silo]

e2s1 dhil is still better than e2s1 acheron

but like e2s1 dhil is just

something else

[frozen spoke]

lets go away from the topic dawg

were gonna be here all day

[hard silo]

yeah fair

im tired of meta talk

theyll both preform well enough to clear every ingame content

[frozen spoke]

this is mine

[hard silo]

theres whose better if they can both 0 cycle

[frozen spoke]

+40 effect res

so 10% cdmg from keel

ez

[hard silo]

mine also has 40 eres

i run keel on all of my supports

[frozen spoke]

true

[hard silo]

i cba farming other domains tbh...

[frozen spoke]

w7 is insanely energy efficient

[hard silo]

uhh

whats the other set

rutilant?

[frozen spoke]

yes

[hard silo]

i forgot off the top of my head

[frozen spoke]

like 80% of dps use it

[hard silo]

yeah rutilant is insane

[frozen spoke]

keel+ rutilant is a insane comboi

[hard silo]

but w6 is also energy efficient

but the other set is kinda ass nowadays

unless u have geppie or aventurine

but like 70% of dpsers have salsatto as bis or second bis

[frozen spoke]

||btw is the march form change gonna be a dhil style change where we need to pull for it or a tb one where we selecy the version?||

[hard silo]

but i agree that w6 is probably your best bet

[hard silo]

idfk man we dont have enough leaks about that

nice 161 speed on your sparkle tho

now go 170+ :)

ru using rainbow set

or actual sets

[hard silo]

161 speed w/o rainbow set is nice

i have the exact same setup

[frozen spoke]

look at my jl 💀

[hard silo]

2 longevous 2 messenger

[frozen spoke]

[hard silo]

💀

those stats are insane

but then i look at rainbow set

[frozen spoke]

it is what it is

i get more dmg% from the stats

[hard silo]

idk i feel like u should atleast try to get rutilant

[frozen spoke]

i do

im trying man

[hard silo]

the rest is like

pointless

i agree

[frozen spoke]

my seele doesnt have rutilant either

[hard silo]

u can run rainbow but rutilant is just too good

u know whats funy

[frozen spoke]

one day for sure

[hard silo]

i got a 40 cv rutilant rope

lol!!!!!!~

all my dpsers are juggling it like its a ball

[frozen spoke]

lol

[hard silo]

my dhil has a 30 cv orb

rutilant

with img dmg

kinda wish it was atk tho so itll be a juggle piece aswell

did you know that acheron prefers atk% orb over lightning dmg

i found that kinda cool

atk% boots aswell

[frozen spoke]

Ornamt sets in general are unfun to farm

And are hard af to get

[hard silo]

theyre making quick farm next update

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!

only took them like a year

[frozen spoke]

What is that?

[hard silo]

theyre gonna let you automate the process to get planars

[frozen spoke]

Ornament calyx?

[hard silo]

idk how it works

they just told us

[frozen spoke]

I c

[hard silo]

"itll be easier to farm planar sets soon lol"

[frozen spoke]

Insane qol changes

[hard silo]

i mean

acheron made getting planars easy aswell

but once again most insane qol locked behind p2w

idrc about it that much tho

if theyre making planars easier to farm

the game needs to put breakpoints in its tutorial

i hate how its an hidden mechanic

[frozen spoke]

How are they lovked behind p2w

[hard silo]

not rlly p2w

limited gacha

worded poorly

my b ad

[frozen spoke]

Ah

[hollow gorge]

It was also agreed that instead of doin what they did w/ Dan Heng (which imo was stupid), it'll be like the trailblazer

[frozen spoke]

Idk man

They need to sell chars

[hollow gorge]

so march will be able to just "Swtich" forms

[frozen spoke]

[frozen spoke]

Amazing

[hard silo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/573837639883554817/1029433538631716971/shrug-emoji.gif

[frozen spoke]

Free eidolons as well

[hollow gorge]

also, acheron in of herself is a qol char btw

[hard silo]

dub

[hollow gorge]

you get to speedrun SU

[hard silo]

thats what i said?

zzzzzz

[hollow gorge]

oh

i was not

readin chat

[hard silo]

like i said most insane qol is locked behind limited char

but like i said

[hard silo]

speed breakpoints should be a basic thing everyone knows about

[hollow gorge]

You rn ^

[hollow gorge]

so many people dont tho

[hard silo]

thats me rn

im a cute anime girl not a teacher ugly male

[hollow gorge]

Take that back

Ratio is amazing

[hard silo]

jokes aside i love ratio

hes so fun

[hollow gorge]

tbh same

he was the first character i pulled for w/ irl cash

[hard silo]

"ZERO POINTS NEXT" proceeds to nuke for 10 ratiotillion damage

[hollow gorge]

since i wanted to E2 him

(now i regret it, didnt know acheron was coming)

(I could've e6'd acheron)

[hard silo]

just whale? lol?

[hollow gorge]

Already did

[hard silo]

if ur at e4 or above its honestly worth whaling

just whale some more? lol

[frozen spoke]

Hes e3

[hollow gorge]

at e3 w/ 3 lost 50/50's

[hard silo]

ah

just get next rerun

[frozen spoke]

Just swipe harder

Smh

[hollow gorge]

i mean

i wanna get her to E4 at least

[frozen spoke]

Pull better

[hollow gorge]

so i've been speedrunning

[hard silo]

e4 acheron

[hollow gorge]

Golden Gears / Swarm

[hard silo]

is literally so ass

[hollow gorge]

ik

[hard silo]

dont even bother

[hollow gorge]

but might as well

[hard silo]

its either e2 or e6

[hollow gorge]

then again..

i could hold off

and get robin

[hard silo]

just wait

get aventurine

[hollow gorge]

i got fu xuan

[hard silo]

2 debuffs from a sustainer

does fu xuan give 2 debuffs

no

[hollow gorge]

no, but does aventurine give 10% crit rate ?

no

or 15 or whatever

numbers hard

[hard silo]

10% crit rate is negligeable if you're decent at building

idk i dont have fu xuan i quit during her banner

[hollow gorge]

I quit just after her banner

xianzhou made me hate the game

Legit disliked the story & the direction

[hard silo]

xianzhou was so good

why?

jing yuan

mmmmmmmmmmm i love my malewife

[hollow gorge]

idunno

[hard silo]

me ❤️ jing yuan

[hollow gorge]

i just hated the story

[hard silo]

nah im fucking

it was p bad

[hollow gorge]

So many people

[hard silo]

but penacony story

is peak

[hollow gorge]

say it was so good

and im like "Am i crazy ? did we play same thing ?"

[hard silo]

i love penacony story

its all good

[hollow gorge]

penacony is amazing

[hard silo]

the side quests the main quest

[hollow gorge]

the side quests give me depression

the main quest gives me suicidal thoughts

[hard silo]

YES THEYRE SO FUCKING SAD

an old man trapped for hundreds of years inside that place

[hollow gorge]

i love penacony 🥰

[hard silo]

forgot everyone including his own identity

[hollow gorge]

Murderous Tyrant who killed SO MANY people

[hard silo]

PENACONY IS SUCH A HAPPY PLACE !!!! :DDD

[hollow gorge]

2 people who wanna commit suicide

So happy and uplifting

[hard silo]

the end of the 2.1 story was so unpredictable though

[hollow gorge]

yep

legit didnt expect

[frozen spoke]

just get e6 dawg

[hollow gorge]

THEN AGAIN

[frozen spoke]

i promise

[hollow gorge]

https://tenor.com/kEpsFy07WxL.gif

^ this mf

said "Im Thirteen"

[frozen spoke]

most trustworthy 13yo fr

[hollow gorge]

But no

he didnt say he's 13

[frozen spoke]

||hes prob a dog?||

[frozen spoke]

he did

[hard silo]

he says hes 13 yo because of the death card

[frozen spoke]

then he looked into your soul

[hollow gorge]

he said he's Thirteen , with capital T

[frozen spoke]

with that stare

ill never forget it

[hard silo]

did u see

the sunday boss leaks

[hollow gorge]

So its more of a title than a "Age"

[hollow gorge]

yep

[frozen spoke]

nope

[frozen spoke]

no

imo

[hard silo]

||10k fu xuan gone to hell with a single attack||

LOOOOOOOOL!

[hollow gorge]

saw a 9.6k fu xuan get 1 hit

[hard silo]

the game is not getting harder its just a conspiricy