What I think is the BIGGEST question to be addressed right now

[wintry tinsel]

Having seen and thought upon the recently shared 2025 roadmap, I am now convinced of something that I have been mulling over in the last couple months, as to what is potentially a huge misunderstanding between the community and the developers.

It goes like this: how much work is needed to be put in for the repeat events? By which I mean Dark Tor, Wintertide, Troll Hunt etc. Not talking about the creation of new events, just repeat ones here.

There are a couple of factors that have led me to this question. 2 particularly recently - 1 was this message #guild-wars message . The idea that "Dark Tor is usually the most stressful event". Thing number 2 - the fact that most of the dev work for 2025 appears to be on the repeat events.

So let me make clear the point of my question - to all of us here, it doesn't feel like the repeat events take much effort at all. Ok, you have to develop some new skins, maybe write some new quests (sometimes), and I guess "turn it on" somehow...but that doesn't feel like it will take a long time.

There are 2 outcomes to this question:

1: "They actually take a really long time to implement each year". Please elaborate, because this so different to what we imagine.

2: "As you say, they don't take much work". In this case, we are back to the idea of the community not really knowing what Midoki is working on.

My summary would be this: putting the events as the main "Exciting, Coming Soon!!!" things on the Roadmap is quite disappointing. It's only exciting if it's your 1st or 2nd year in the game.

If you're still confused about my point - genuinely consider: put up a Discord poll asking "How much work do you think it takes to implement the repeat events? E.g. Dark Tor, Wintertide" with a few options. See what happens. It's not to be cynical, it's to show you how people's perspectives are potentially different at the moment.

There are so many more questions I have about Knighthood development but we'll start here, because this might be a huge misunderstanding

ok bye

[teal crow]

Ping and bump

[wintry tinsel]

My man ❤️

I'll ping Chris and Elt tomorrow maybe

[tall prawn]

This 100%, and very reasonably asked.

If the dev team is maxxed out to just keep the lights on for the event cycle it would be very useful to know that!

[tacit hatch]

Bump

[wintry tinsel]

@reef maple If you could please give this a read 👉👈

[sleek scarab]

#general-discussion message
I think this should be added here.
Not the best quality answer but fwiw it does imply that there’s other stuff being worked on that just won’t have deliverables during this year (although of course I leave room to not be surprised if this changes)

[reef maple]

Hey! Thanks for the tag here – I can see this aligns with some previous questions around the process and ‘how’ for certain events/features/content. It would be cool, when possible, to further break down the development process for what you see in the game – though the immediate priority for myself and others is to deliver those in-game changes that folks would like to see 🫡

Purely from my personal experience, I would stress that every single dev team I’ve been a part of, including this one, works incredibly hard to create the best game possible for all players. It’s not easy, there’s a lot to juggle and consider, but they do their absolute best, and any notion of a lack of effort is always incorrect. That’s not to say we get it right every time. We’ll keep seeing where improvements can be made 😊

[wintry tinsel]

Thanks - just to be clear, I'm not implying a lack of effort at all. I believe there is a lot of effort going into this game (whether it's in the right places is a different question, but it's being put in)

What I'm asking is to just understand a bit more as to whether the repeat events are "not much" or "a lot" of effort

Obviously, I will always have follow up questions regarding the response given but any response is a step forward

[reef maple]

Cool - I wonder if in the future, we can produce something that sheds a bit more light on how events like these get made and set up. Like I said, the priority rn is actually making those changes/improvements, but some extra info and education on the process is never a bad thing 🙂

Thanks again for this - good constructive feedback!

[wintry tinsel]

Thanks! Of course, I don't expect this to be immediate. I had just hoped it would be something that could clear up some expectations of what's to come. I truly do believe that we will get there, one day.

[radiant knot]

I think this leads back to a comment I believe I saw on the QnA list about how many devs are working on the game in general. I don't think anyone is suggesting there isn't work being done, but if it's one team of a programmer, artist and tester, that's different than if it's a team of 15 programmers, 5 artists, and 5 playtesters. (i realize I'm ignoring other positions). I suspect it's somewhere between those two.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the roadmap as listed. I think it's fine since the events are coming, and they are not 0 effort no matter what.

For me, being a late game player essentially done with all the stuff,, it's nice to have an idea of what new things are coming, and I do appreciate the engagement we do get from the dev team for sure.

For me, the big things are new content like the new event, and guild wars improvements. All the nice to haves are exactly that, nice to have. Other than loadouts. By all that is holy, please give us more loadouts!

[ionic flame]

💯% An insight or a introduction of sorts, like a for say:

‘Meet our dev team’

Kinda thing would be awesome to see in future, would help give players new & old (especially long time players) an a better understanding of the whole development process that Knighthood goes through

[teal crow]

Midoki should put this out as a movie or video

[radiant knot]

Even just on their brand new website that is nothing more than a cheap money grab right now. Give me content that might make me want to visit it regularly.

Host the wiki. Keep it updated. Give me a dev of the week spotlight. Give me some of the data tables you use. Hero/gauntlet/monster data. That kind of thing. Nothing that we can’t already find out, but maybe in a format that is easily downloadable and sortable.

Maybe a place to have contests like costume of the week for the heroes. We did this for a while on our discord. Someone picks a theme and everyone puts together an outfit that meets the theme. Winner one week becomes the judge. Do that and add a top three get some random tchotchke and you might see real engagement.

Ok this has turned into a wholly different suggestion than the topic.

[teal crow]

Bump

[wintry tinsel]

Why has this thread been tagged “answered”? It hasn’t been
I’m not expecting an immediate answer, I just want to acknowledge that it hasn’t been answered and this is a question that should be explored in the future

[sleek scarab]

Perhaps a pre-emptive marking for them planing to answer in the very near future?
I hope…

[wintry tinsel]

To be honest, it’s more of a Lynsey dev question than a question that MiniClip can answer

[vast bronze]

I usually mark suggestions as "answered" if a blue member responds with anything substantial
I'm guessing you want the tag removed bc the responses here don't exactly answer your question

[wintry tinsel]

Yes

I guessed that was the reason for the “answered” tag, I just really wanted to not lose this subject

[vast bronze]

no prob