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[night mulch]

Yeah razer would be the obvious choice

But they have horrible overheating issues

Which sucks because god the white razer blade 18 is fucking gorgeous

Probably one of the best laptops I've ever seen

I'm gonna say though the msi is the most satisfying keyboard I've ever typed on

[trim tree]

I read that as "Probably one of the laptops I've ever seen"

omitted best for no reason

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, anything that's not thicccc will melt with an i9 and 4090

[night mulch]

It gets even worse for razer because so

[frigid frigate]

MSI has some like "creator" models and whatever as well which are pretty sleek looking

[trim tree]

I wonder what the wattage cap is for both components in mobile form

[night mulch]

The bottom chasis doesn't have enough air vents so cooking pads literally don't do anything to it

[frigid frigate]

4090 does 140w max iirc, i9 does like 120w max I think?

[night mulch]

The Asus one I was using I got the cooling pad to drop temps another 20C

[frigid frigate]

And for something as thick as like your phone, yeah, that's a lot of heat to get rid of :P

[night mulch]

So you'll end up getting like 30-35C differences using razer

[frigid frigate]

I believe with boosts and stuff an i9 + 4090 will do like 300w

[night mulch]

Yeah the 4090 on high ends goes to 175

Those are the one you want

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, trying to keep that cool is uh.... yeah

Especially since cpu and gpu basically share their cooling capacity

[night mulch]

Yeah it's just like man the MacBook is great for content creation but if it had a 4090 it would be perfect

[frigid frigate]

Asus Zephyrus laptops are also really pretty, but eh... yeah. Cooling also a problem because slim laptop :P

If the macbook had a 4090 it would melt :P

[night mulch]

I was getting like 30-50% faster renders on the Asus

Giving that up hurts

Topaz denoise MacBook would take like 30 seconds to load 4 preview comparisons

Asus did it in like.. 5 seconds

Same in Lightroom denoise it was processing it like 4 times faster than the MacBook

[frigid frigate]

My laptop might not be that fast for editing, but it was affordable and does the job

[night mulch]

Yeah

This is just first world problems

I admit

[frigid frigate]

It do be :P

[night mulch]

It's crazy how good laptops are getting though like I had no idea the CPU in the asus was like 90% as powerful as the desktop equivalent

Because I know the GPUs are way different

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, laptops have gotten crazy good

[night mulch]

Laptop 4090 closer to a 4070 desktop lmao

[frigid frigate]

Like, with 8th gen intel laptop cpu's have actually gotten good

Before that they were real ass

Like, my current laptop is similar to my desktop in performance which is crazy

[night mulch]

It's kinda infuriating because MacBooks are good for content creation but it sucks they're tied to such an anti consumerist company

Then I see all these repair videos about how poorly built they are internally and people having problems and apple being like sorry you didn't buy apple care guess you'll just need a whole new computer ◠ ͜ ◠

The continuity is cool and all but uh I don't text people I use discord and Kakao for everything so that just leaves my photos

Makes me not want anything past an air in the future

[grave prairie]

Yeah .. it’s annoying every programme has it’s own way of decoding the colour information whether professional or built in and then when your image goes out to devices they put out the image their way. I noticed a difference between samsung and apple phones .
I used to use capture one and really liked the way it handles colours really nice but it’s £20 a month which i can’t justify atm as i’m not shooting professionally enough at the moment .

I was thinking of getting an m3 macbook within the 6 weeks .. i’m curious now to a windows laptop ..

[velvet violet]

one minecraft startup and its a vacuum cleaner

i remember doing that for the first time with mine i laughed so hard

[night mulch]

If you're just doing content creation no gaming definitely get a MacBook

MacBook definitely better on the low end no competition

When you get into the like 4080 and 4090 area it gets competitive

Literally the only thing that Asus computer lost in was screen resolution. It was beating the MacBook in everything else I threw at it lmao

But also matters what specifically too like that's kinda why I'm looking at the msi now

If you're like only gaming though there's way cheaper choices too lmao

[grave prairie]

[night mulch]

Just yeah if you want something that does both I guess is my understanding is.. you're gonna pay for it

My MacBook is great it's just boring as shit to use

[grave prairie]

My budget is like around £2000 ($2500)

[night mulch]

It has no character it's like basically just work that's another reason why I don't want it anymore lmao

Sheeeesh

That's actually a good budget

[frigid frigate]

Big monies

[grave prairie]

It’s for making art stuff and browsing

[night mulch]

Yeah definitely sounds like MacBook still

[frigid frigate]

You don't need to spend 2k for that lmao

[night mulch]

Like they just win in the low and mid tier

Ye that too

[velvet violet]

id say get a second hand one saves money ig

[frigid frigate]

Art stuff and browsing you can do for like... 750

[grave prairie]

[night mulch]

Ye second hand is a good idea too I agree

Although apple products generally retain value well

[frigid frigate]

Because lmao brand

[night mulch]

So might not make a massive difference

Yeah

🙄

[frigid frigate]

Actual ewaste with an Apple sticker on it still gets sold for like nearly the original price, it's so stupid

[grave prairie]

M3 14 pro i was looking at

[frigid frigate]

For art and browsing you could consider an ipad as well

Procreate go brrrr

[grave prairie]

Nice screen - cools nicely - good speakers for entertainment

[frigid frigate]

Ipad pro or whatever it's called with a keyboard attachment cover thingy

[grave prairie]

the 15 inch m3 air is tempting too though but heat .. ?

[night mulch]

I was gonna say air might be better for you if you're not doing anything video related but I forgot about the SD card reader lmao

SD card reader goated

[grave prairie]

Ill do video

[frigid frigate]

Dongle go brrr 😔

[grave prairie]

Probably raw video when i get the sigma fp

Which takes chunks of power

Yeah sd card slot handy

[night mulch]

Ironically people using cfexpress I think MacBook airs make more sense

You don't know how many times I've been so happy to have that SD card reader

[frigid frigate]

If you're a student you can get student discount through apple which from time to time tends to be cheaper than other retailers

[night mulch]

It's saved my ass so many times from having to carry around extra dongles

[frigid frigate]

I have a little type c sd card reader in my bag at all times

[grave prairie]

back to the colour convo - be good if there was like a universal colour code so all images could render the same tones on all devices

[frigid frigate]

But that would be like, convenient

And convenience is evil

[grave prairie]

[velvet violet]

i def recommend ipad pro

im using one rn and tbh i use it more (in combo with keyboard like waffle said) than my actual macbook

ans its also cutie patootie size to bring along in ur backpack

[grave prairie]

Hehe

Cutie patootie

such a fun word

[velvet violet]

🥔

[grave prairie]

[night mulch]

Yeah if you're drawing and doing art ipad for sure

I envy my friend who uses her iPad for it

I'm like this would be so cool... If I drew in the first place

[pulsar perch]

just wanted to throw this out there, iOS specifically has a setting for sending all the data vs. sending a "compatibility optimized" version (which is the cutdown one for windows)

it's somewhere in the import/export/icloud setting, but I cba to find it right now

but Rose did hit it on the nail that the two different OS process anything more complicated than a straight jpeg differently

on win 10/11, there's a couple of store apps that improve the experience on the Photos app and with thumbnails and all that

[autumn bridge]

Nah

Screw this

Install Picasa

Literally all purpose photo viewer

[night mulch]

I guess this is one of those things I should know about, but learn through trial and error lol. I always heard something about like pixels on the macbooks and like why they were so good for content creation. I didn't realize it was something called pixel density

which... yeah looking at this now makes a lot of sense

the 16 inch macbook pro I have has a pixel density of 255.
the 18 inch asus I was trying has a pixel density of.. 168 lol

So yeah no wonder it was sharper on the macbook

I guess I didn't realize this was something separate. I knew the qhd screen was lower resolution than the macbook. I just didn't know there was another factor as well

can't find the pixel density of 4k razer blades but apparently the msi is 251 at 18 inches. I mean I know bigger screens are more ideal the higher resolution you go... so would that look better or worse than the macbook that has the smaller screen? Not sure if I'm really 100% following this

just in a perfect hypothetical world where they were the exact same ppi I guess for sake of argument

ofc google is just like "yep bigger and smaller screen both better "

[autumn bridge]

This is where Apple kinda wins

if I remember there's the "how much distance until it's Retina" and you just find your desired PPI based on how far usually you will sit away from the screen

And shit does work

[night mulch]

yeah I was reading an explanation on reddit and.... I didn't understand it

[autumn bridge]

It's a two step thing

[night mulch]

they were talking about like... if you crop in on a 4k monitor you get a qhd experience... idfk

[autumn bridge]

???

No it's not that deep

[night mulch]

"if you're at 4k you can sit 20 inches away but qhd you need to be 27 inches"

[autumn bridge]

It's literally distance against PPI

[night mulch]

I'm just here like

[autumn bridge]

Well...yeah but not exactly

I swear there's a calculator

[night mulch]

math

[autumn bridge]

Found it

https://tools.rodrigopolo.com/display_calc/

I am a video editor so I don't fucking care about retina

I need more screen real estate

Want to see the entire timeline unzoomed

[night mulch]

I definitely get why these laptops are so fucking expensive now

here I was months ago "who tf would game on 4k laptops"

and I still have that opinion

but now I realize it's just more so likely bad marketing

[autumn bridge]

Nah gaming in 4k is whack

[night mulch]

because yeah this is about as close seemingly you could get to basically a macbook with a 4090

... and when you factor in the price of both of them.... yeah it's about this price

[autumn bridge]

Unless you're one of those "OOOH THIS LOOKS SO PRETTY" if you're slaying monsters chances are you gonn miss it

[night mulch]

I hate how much this msi titan is making for my use case

[autumn bridge]

"OH WOW THAT RAYTRACING" Sir I am trying to click you in time

If anything you need more FPS

[night mulch]

tbh i'd just be docking this thing at home and playing on my monitor rn i'm on

think this is a samsung g7

[autumn bridge]

The ideal solution fr

[night mulch]

idk it's qhd 32 inch curve monitor 240hz

I definitely would not be gaming on 4k fuck that

maybe some single player games from time to time but yeah

actually niche af demographic for these computers

I'm sure I've mentioned this in here before but

the other thing that's infuriating and again it's one of these things like the resolution and ppi thing but I forget what it's called

macbooks if you dock them to external displays they don't give you the full resolution

when I docked that asus laptop it was like NOTICEABLY sharper

[autumn bridge]

???

What

[night mulch]

yeah lol

[autumn bridge]

How does that..

Wait

[night mulch]

also my monitor is 240hz... but this is not 240hz

I guarantee you I go get a pro xdr display and it looks fine though

[autumn bridge]

That's probably Thunderbolt limitations on your machine

[frigid frigate]

I do understand 4k gaming because I'm a slut for pretty graphics

[night mulch]

I would not be surprised if this was just some fucking apple bs

well both are thunderbolt 4

there's actually threads online about this

[autumn bridge]

huh

Goddamnit Apple

[night mulch]

I remember someone sent this yeji gif a few days ago lOL

[autumn bridge]

You just gave me ANOTHER reason NOT to use your products

[night mulch]

I was like BRO THAT LOOKS SO MUCH SHARPER THAN MY MACBOOK

if you're using the actual macbook screen it looks fine but the second you try to dock to anything like

this is... definitely not qhd and 240hz lol

I feel like I'm looking at slightly higher 1080p and like.. idk.. 144hz

[frigid frigate]

External monitor isn't plug and play like with windows

You have to mess around in the settings and everything

It's so cringe

[night mulch]

yeah and I hate the way apple does text scaling

like I keep telling people apple makes great hardware but their os is absolutely

[frigid frigate]

I believe in some cases you have to download some apps to get full external monitor support

[night mulch]

like the software is such a wtf

[autumn bridge]

.,.??

How

[frigid frigate]

They put all their effort into iOS and MacOS is just an after thought

[night mulch]

I honestly don't really have a problem with iphones and ios anymore like they made a lot of improvements. Sure every once in a while i'm like ok apple stop eating crayons

I think the camera on the 15 pro is actually goated

[autumn bridge]

No custom ringtones tho

[night mulch]

but then yeah macbooks... love hate relationship

Look at my macbook and i'm like damn the io is good af, braided cable, magsafe.. slightly less than 4k screen.. keyboard nice to type on trackpad is good great battery life

anddddddddddd yep the os sucks

[autumn bridge]

Except Adobe products

For some fucking reason

[night mulch]

I think at this point it's more I just got used to the os than it actually being good

yeah it's infuriating still that lightroom works as well as it does on macs

[frigid frigate]

My phone is on silent 24/7, I can't care less about ringtones

Macbook trackpads are wild

I wish windows laptops had Macbook trackpads

Maybe then you wouldn't have to carry a mouse with you at all times

[night mulch]

lol yeah

again.... another one of those areas the msi actually got praised for

[autumn bridge]

then how else I want to tell people YES I HAVE A TRIPLES DIMENSION RINGTONE BECAUSE YOUSHOULD LSITEN TO IT?

[frigid frigate]

Windows laptop have been getting better trackpads for sure. But only really on laptops the 0.1% can buy lel

[autumn bridge]

Entry level ThinkPads are cheap

[frigid frigate]

And they very much dont have Macbook level trackpads

[night mulch]

yeah basically gets back into that category I was talking about earlier about like windows laptops only being better in the highest price tiers lmao

below that.. not even close regarding build quality

[frigid frigate]

I'd say starting at 4070 laptops the higher end segment of those start getting competitive already, and everything above that is just equal or better teah

Higher end 4070 laptops for like, there are definitively ones that start getting there in terms of build quality and luxury and such

I can't really speak for other brands but like the Lenovo Legion Pro's are really good build quality wise

They do look pretty gamery though

But they feel really nice

[autumn bridge]

Not gonn matter if I docked it

But as of recent they kinda slowly toned it down

[frigid frigate]

Legion pro's real expensive though

[night mulch]

I looked up more about ppi just to understand it and yeah it's literally just like

same thing as resolution gotta sit further away

so yeah 16 and 18 inch screens both with same ppi it'll look better on the smaller screen

[frigid frigate]

No

If the ppi is the same then it'll look identical

Ppi is your pixel density. The higher it is the sharper something looks. Usually smaller screens have a higher ppi because high resolution, small screen, pixels very close together so it looks very sharp

If a larger screen has the same ppi as a smaller screen, the screens will look exactly the same in terms of sharpness

Meaning (depending on your usecase) the larger screen will offer more as it's equally sharp as the smaller screen, whilst being bigger

[autumn bridge]

If 2 screens of a different size has same PPI I'd want to know the resolution of each one because ain't no way it's regular

[frigid frigate]

The bigger screen has a higher resolution clearly

Otherwise they can't have the same ppi

[night mulch]

Yeah the 18 inch was 251 the 16 inch was 255

There was a thread I'd have to find it again but it was all viewing distance

[frigid frigate]

I'd take 16 for the portability. As 16" is a 15" chassis whereas 18" is uh... that's big to carry around

[night mulch]

Yeah that's the biggest problem

Legit have to buy a backpack that can carry it

God the screen real estate being portable though is 😩

Felt so much better looking at photos on that with smaller bezels too compared to the MacBook

More screen and thinner bezels

[autumn bridge]

test

@echo hill remember when I took a very long time to realize the tripleS girls were in 2 themes for the Weekly Idol preview

Same thing literally happened just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLXTIuBFttU

....

*THIS MV'S GONNA BE IN IMAX CROP

@grave prairie cause you probably would find this interesting too

HOW AM I JUST REALIZING THIS?!?!?!??!/

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

OMG I WANNA CRY

i wanna cry this is one of my fav crops

IT'S IN DIGITAL IMAX

[autumn bridge]

YEAH BOI IMAX CROP

[red tartan]

dis 1.90:1?

[autumn bridge]

YEAH

1.9:1

I was like

"wait this letterboxing looks... WAIT THIS IS IMAX CROP"

I didn't realize this before because I was playing it on my phone

Now I am on PC

[red tartan]

on 16:9 screen it doesn't look that good with just tiny black bars

[autumn bridge]

....eeaaaaa yeah I am not gonna respond to that

Okay tiny black bars, I get it

American crop which is 1.86:1 has very tiny blackbars

Yeah that looks odd, I agree

[red tartan]

the worst

[autumn bridge]

I have 2 crops that I am a really fan of because I like to watch stuff on TV

Univisum (2:1)

And Digital IMAX (1.9:1)

There's that immersiveness effect + cinematic

Because when you're used to watching film in 2:35:1

Switching to either makes it feel like you gained Y depth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFrFbw3w_cw&pp=ygUNdW5pdmlzdW0gY3JvcA%3D%3D

This video covers the 2:1 aspect ratio

Vittoro Storaro my man

[autumn bridge]

I have an obssession with this crop

So much that if I wanted to I would reframe everything to that crop

[echo hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoXrMAPOLA

classic case

youtubers make video with crts and forget to check if anyone on their editing team has aged out of hearing high frequencies

[grave prairie]

Sweeeeeet!! ~ the grade is gorgeous as well! 🙌

@autumn bridge how do you establish the format ?

[autumn bridge]

Establish?

Wdym?

[grave prairie]

Find out

Figure out

[autumn bridge]

Oh just by eye

I knew it the second I played it on my PC screen

[grave prairie]

Niice

Basically a slightly boxier 16:9

The lens choices super wide or boxed in telephoto for the majority in that teaser

Immersive

character immersive

Wide up close - character immersive inc enviroment

Telephoto - exclusive of environment sense of loneliness or introspective

@autumn bridge whats girls night ?

3:2 ?

[autumn bridge]

Gimme an SS

[autumn bridge]

Nah that looks like standard 16:9

[grave prairie]

Ahh

[grave prairie]

It depends on what your viewing it on as well

Froze the same clip on my laptop and i’m getting more of the image

[red tartan]

laptop could be 16:10

[grave prairie]

It’s 1.54:1

[autumn bridge]

Kitzen I think either you or me is misunderstanding what I discussed about "crop"

People also refer is aspect ratio

Guess I need to explain also the numbers I have been spewing can be also referred as "aspect ratio" but from what I learned from other videographers the term is called crop

The "im getting more image" is really a pseudovisual effect, you are not actually getting more image but you feel like you're getting more

That is more or less the aftereffect of "crops"

However

This pseudoeffect is important to cinematographers because they decide what emotion you want to feel when you're watching their film/content

Likewise, there's actual work behind centering an object/focusing/deciding what film stock to use and that may will affect the final aspect ratio of the product

That being said, I did say that I am a fan of these crops because I view any content in a 16:9 frame, like 90% of the world does

As I view it, contained in a 16:9 frame allows 95% of films all over the world to be viewed with the letterboxing that the director deems it to be

So in a way, there's art in the black bars

[red tartan]

there's art in crop, black bars are just side effect of given screen you're viewing it on
that's what Kitzen meant

and here's nice vid explaining entire topic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbCqkQPnlOI

and some historical things I wasn't aware of

[autumn bridge]

Ah so I got it the other way

Probably only me but when I am watching anything I am noticing the black bars first

[autumn bridge]

Some absolutely cinematic composition within the IMAX crop, from GND MV

[autumn bridge]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANNA CRY

MUSIC VIDEO IN MY FAVOURITE CROP

[timid ravine]

IMAX screens are taller where normal theatre and our tv are wider aspect ratio.

[autumn bridge]

yeah that's IMAX 35-70

This is IMAX Digital

aka 1.9:1

[timid ravine]

That's why a 16:10 monitor is perfect for every ratio

Best of the both worlds

[frigid frigate]

If only manufacturers would actually make 16:10 monitors

Impossible to find outside of laptops

[timid ravine]

It will be popular

[frigid frigate]

Doubt it

[timid ravine]

Even games supporting 16:10

[frigid frigate]

Considering we still haven't seen any

I mean, that's pretty normal since with a little bit of coding a game can support like every ratio

It just detects whatever you have and adjusts, nothing special about that

If manufacturers had any interest we would've had 16:10 gaming monitors years ago. Considering the weird ass bullshit some companies out there release just to see how it performs / if anyone would even buy it

Yet no 16:10 releases

[autumn bridge]

Dunno I don't think so

[timid ravine]

Nah, it has to render those extra images. Most of Western games support 16:10

Even steam deck is 16:10

[autumn bridge]

You'd be revoking MULTIPLE international broadcast standards to get a 16:10 product

[timid ravine]

16:9 is perfect for cinematic

[autumn bridge]

and broadcast

That's the problem

[timid ravine]

16:9 movie looks more cinematic on 16:10 display

[autumn bridge]

I'd say even after 30 years you'll never see a 16:10 TV as the norm

because of international standards I mentioned earlier

You'd be challenging the names of Universal

Sony Pictures

[frigid frigate]

Like, we're getting silly ass stacked, vertical, square, super ultra wide, person sized, you name it gaming monitors. Yet still no 16:10 despite them being well available on gaming laptops for plenty of years now

[autumn bridge]

I think you can easily get 16:10 monitor if you go enterprise products

Like I am sure HP has one

[frigid frigate]

Which suck ass

[autumn bridge]

wait wdym?

[frigid frigate]

Because no one buys them

[autumn bridge]

They're professional monitors

[frigid frigate]

Professionally garbage

[autumn bridge]

wha

[frigid frigate]

Enterprise hasn't been 16:10 for like a million years

[autumn bridge]

Nah professional creatives HUNT those

[frigid frigate]

All enterprise 16:10 stuff is ancient

[autumn bridge]

I've seen entire editing den use that one Xiaomi monitor

[timid ravine]

I'm not telling those broadcast to release their content in 16:10. Because 16:9 looks really good in 16:10 it's adds very little border in top and bottom and it looks cinematic. And you can enjoy IMAX ratio as well because it also add less bar on sides compared to a 16:9 display. All I am saying 16:10 is a sweet spot.

[frigid frigate]

Like, if companies are willing to constantly release the most weird and whack ass concept products but still not release a 16:10 monitor, I feel that says enough about their interest in it

[autumn bridge]

????

LMAO bro what have I've been seeing then in these studios

[frigid frigate]

Probably not 16:10

[autumn bridge]

And mind you I visit studios regularly to consult them about room acoustics

nah I can eye some, those were definitely 16:10

[frigid frigate]

Professional studios might use older Eizo's

Which can look like 16:10

But very much are not

Like, there are 16:10 monitors for color work, but they are all worse than 16:9 offerings out there so I unless you get them used for a great price there's no point in buying them

Plus they're all tiny as well

Like, 1080p 24" 16:10 for your creative work is real ass

Or well

1200

Like, LG, where's your 30" 1600p 165hz 16:10 monitor?

Like, why do we have so many super ultrawides yet not a single gaming 16:10

[timid ravine]

Widescreen is cult favourite

I hate the bars in widescreen for 16:9 content

Imagine how 4:3 will look

[autumn bridge]

Narrow af

[frigid frigate]

4:3 content on a 32:9

[autumn bridge]

But to me that's the art

I dunno

I see art in black bars

[frigid frigate]

Just stretch it to get rid of the bars lmao

[timid ravine]

Stretch noooo

Zoom it

It's far better

[timid ravine]

Oh boy is it streched?

It's kinda cheating you will see enemy heads wider

Never tried cs 2. Don't the game has wide screen support?

[frigid frigate]

Idk, I don't play cs

[timid ravine]

You send the screenshot

So i thought

Wide screen Good for battle royale games

[frigid frigate]

I mean, that's not my picture, I'm very much not rich enough for a 32:9

I 21:9 money, not 32:9 money lel

[timid ravine]

Hope steam deck 16:10 force Japanese studios to render their games in 16:10. It's don't bother me but it's still nice.

[frigid frigate]

There's plenty of Japanese games with 16:10 support wdym

[timid ravine]

sega, capcom, bandai namco don't do it. Idk know othe publishers. You can mod those games to be in 16:10 so it's fine.

[frigid frigate]

You don't even have to mod

You can edit ini

[timid ravine]

this is how it looks an IMAX home release version if they release it for 16:10 display

this is original a 16:9

THIS IS HOW A 4:3 ON A 16:10

The 4:3 will appear much taller on a 16:10 display

[grave prairie]

Sorry @red tartan on another search it seems m3 pro is 16:10 after all

14”

[grave prairie]

https://youtu.be/5L9GCf7BXmY?si=1glkWTR1gIwVdpy-

Saving for later

[autumn bridge]

@sturdy night test

[sturdy night]

looks sick

[grave prairie]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7ZW-QmPKKJ/?igsh=NHpvZWEwcG5udDBz

cinematogr

Dunkirk !

Instagram

[grave prairie]

https://youtu.be/d2m6eh_p1MU?si=4ydW25iZOOvqj55Z

Niceu

[torn mulch]

@autumn bridge seeing almost all loossemble vids kinda makes me think:
did the editor forgot to set the video fps output to 30fps?
(something like they had their project at 30fps but exported it at 24fps instead)

bc all the videos they had are at an unwatchable fps category

i couldn't bear watching their videos at longer rate

[autumn bridge]

I'll take a look when I have time

Could you link the one that you think is problematic?

[torn mulch]

well

it's almost all of their downlink and bts stuffs

[grave prairie]

be cool to have a studio ..

https://x.com/ioonaioop/status/1808266892110619111?s=46&t=9UxI57xH0ctDU1-d0Su72g

loona loops (@IoonaIoop) on X

we got the behind for thee iconic yves album photo

Twitter · Jul 2, 2024, 10:29 PM

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, imagine having your own studio

[velvet violet]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C9CJbspt8eS/?igsh=OHQyOG5pMjl5OHc5

thisenouement

• Costa Da Caparica, Portugal

"Twilight drops her curtain down and pins it with a star."

#fujifilmnederland #fujifilm #fujiphotography #fujifilmxt30 #picoftheday #sunset #sunsets #sunsetphotography #photooftheday #portugal #costadacaparica #portugalphotography #picofday

Instagram

pics of yesterday

boomer ahhh hashtags

[frigid frigate]

I've never used hashtags before

I don't even post text really, usually just single emoji

[velvet violet]

hahahaha

im kinda trying to attract a little since its a new account (and i sadly dont follow mutuals)

[frigid frigate]

I personally couldn't care less about followers and such :P

[velvet violet]

yeah understandable

i just kinda do, wanna grow this account for sure

best way to do is sith hashtags for now ig

more as to meet other people n fun stuff

[frigid frigate]

Oh yeah certainly

Outside of buying exposure, hashtags is all you can really use

[velvet violet]

was thinking on making tiktoks but like in the calm vids compilation type of wY

[frigid frigate]

This one photographer I really really like released an app with their own custom filters and stuff, and it's so good

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/filmhwa-hwa-mins-filter/id6443723657

[velvet violet]

thats sick

only 3€? thats crazy

ill buy rn, i kinda need some vintage looking presets

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, it's a good price

I almost never buy apps, but when I do

https://www.instagram.com/hwa.min?igsh=MTVsd29kb3Uyb2l5Zw==

Their stuff is so good

[velvet violet]

ok yeah im in love

will definitely have to learn how to do manual focus with this lens

[frigid frigate]

Epic

[velvet violet]

theyve got so much more stuff

idk if its expensive but for a full analog cam (with lens) they asked 130 for the olympus one

might just have to go back some time to see if i can get anything cheaper

[frigid frigate]

Also

https://www.instagram.com/_j1aa11?igsh=MXVsajhlNHRmdjhn

Sick pictures

[grave prairie]

Sweet ! Ah 50mm ! 80mm full frame equivalent

[grave prairie]

Kit bag from todays shoot

managed to squeeze a profoto d1 into this bag too on the other side

[grave prairie]

https://youtu.be/VjGX9AQivHc?si=C2-bAOkE4coemJqS

I’m buying this lens sometime

[grave prairie]

How’s the camera ?

[velvet violet]

its great!!

so far ive been loving it

i took these two about n hour or three ago with the olympus lens

i love it so far

[frigid frigate]

Yoooo

[velvet violet]

i was honestly surprised by myself for this, especially since ive got no knowledge about this (i should watch yt videos tho oopsie haha)

most of the time im like haha yolo lets take pic, edit lightroom & upload

[frigid frigate]

A fun lens and eye for composition does wonders

[velvet violet]

ooo nice dreamy effect

[velvet violet]

das niceee

[grave prairie]

Niiiiiiiiiiiice~ look awesome!

[grave prairie]

Nah ~ just follow your own instinct

olympus lens surprise me how good they are for the money

Always so good

Thankfully noones blown the secret yet

I fancy a 50mm again

I sold the one i had when i got my carl zeiss

But its heavy

A light lens is good

I also miss the canon 50mm 1.4

That lens has a certain character i like too

I sold mine for parts to a local dealer when i crunched the gears in auto by mistake trying to use manual

Atm i’m saving up for the sigma fp

[velvet violet]

oooo interesting

[grave prairie]

The thypoch 28mm 1.4 looks real nice

[velvet violet]

i still have no knowledge about any of that stuff but for now im just shooting for fun, will get into that by time

[grave prairie]

Aye no rush

Enjoy yourself 🙂

[velvet violet]

these sculptures are so so cool

this park was full of em

no clue who the artist is because there were no names or information tags rip

[grave prairie]

Intricate work!

[night mulch]

probably like the biggest canon announcement ever tomorrow

or like definitely one of them

hype af

it's definitely eos r5ii and finally eos r1

kinda curious if they're gonna announce the 70-200 f2.8 Z and 200-500 f4 tomorrow too

all 4 of those should be getting tested at the olympics right now

or well

soon I guess lmao

[frigid frigate]

neat

[night mulch]

People only been waiting for the R1 for like... 3 years now

r5ii shaping up to be a really stupid camera

if rumors are true should start getting 8k60fps fancams

[frigid frigate]

Time for those 1TB sd cards

[night mulch]

no kidding

R1 prob a camera only for F1 and sports photographers

[frigid frigate]

1TB cards are honestly not even that bad price wise

[night mulch]

r5ii should be a really good camera for kpop kek

yeah

price on storage has gone down a lot thank god

deals all the time

[frigid frigate]

Pretty solid 1TB cards out there for like 100

[night mulch]

ok idk about that much

KEK

I only trust like sandisk and sony when it comes to memory but there's deals all the time on their cards now

some of them have like lower write speeds

[frigid frigate]

I mean, this is Europe prices, US has like nonexistent tax :P

[night mulch]

oh well I should reiterate i'm talking about cfexpress b cards

[frigid frigate]

Lexar good as well

[night mulch]

standard SD cards yeah

[frigid frigate]

And Samsung

I use Samsung for my sd cards

But I don't think they have 1tb models

[autumn bridge]

CFEx-B 1TB?

Woah

I don't think I've stumbled upon those before

Even in my heaviest studio usage, I never filled even the 512GB

That must be $ludicrous per pop

[night mulch]

cfexpress b goes up to 2tb

they're just not made by the major manufacturers

like sony and sandisk only make up to 512

I have a 512 and 256 but my friend has like multiple 2tb ones

https://www.amazon.com/ProGrade-Digital-CFexpress-Type-Memory/dp/B0B7R289KG?th=1

I have never filled up my 512 though even shooting multiple days though so I definitely don't need lmao

even the day I shot 42 minutes of 8k I didn't fill it up

[grave prairie]

sandisk & angelbird

I’m thinking of trying nextorage v90 cards next

japanese ex sony

supposed to be very decent

[night mulch]

lmao ok funny timing to come check the time

[night mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0ZHqRz9xeQ

https://vxtwitter.com/CanonCNA/status/1813514092927234073/photo/1

yep there it is

r5ii also

[frigid frigate]

💸

[night mulch]

yep 3 hours of watching videos

not cameras for me

cool nonetheless

[grave prairie]

Nice looks good

If i had that kind of money i’d buy a fujifilm gfx 100sii for my kind of work

but the canons are very good all rounders

[grave prairie]

@night mulch are you getting the new canon?

sell old / buy new

[frigid frigate]

R1 is only 7500, a true steal

[grave prairie]

Let me check my back pocket

Ah only 5000 ..

R5ii then

[night mulch]

Nah probably not either

Doesn't fix a problem for me

Definitely not R1

[frigid frigate]

IMAX camera

[velvet violet]

what about this badboy

[frigid frigate]

Wicked

[grave prairie]

Now were talking

[warm patio]

Need that fr fr

[night mulch]

Lol the funny thing is what I might actually end up doing is holding off on the r5ii and the next time I'm in Korea i'll go to a camera store and rent it for music bank one day

The R1 is such a fucking joke like it's actually almost insulting. I feel like the R5ii announcement was the true like star of the show and it's getting a lot of praise

Idk why but the last two years or so I've really started doing video and that's a problem of the R5 with the overheating. I mean granted it got fixed but yeah I might actually swap it for the R5C

R5C prices are dropping right now with R5ii announcements same with the original R5

I definitely wanna have two cameras and one primarily just for video so that feels like the R5C is just always one of them, but idk if I'm gonna swap my R3 for the R5ii

Like run and gun stuff yeah the R3 just keeps up and does what I need it to do so I don't really feel like I'm missing anything in that regard, but the original R5 has a normal CMOS sensor where as now the R5ii has a stacked bsi sensor like the R3. The problem is though the R3 also has a higher voltage battery so it drives lenses faster. Well one thing Canon didn't really advertise with the R5ii announcement was that the new battery that is going to release with it will have a higher discharge rate to power the R5ii doing 8k60. Also the battery grip with the fan that you can buy they stated you need those batteries specifically to power the fan. Canon also confirmed those same batteries will be able to be used in older Canon cameras though through a software update. The R5C needs external power delivery to do 8k60 so it's actually kind of interesting that maybe the batteries they're releasing will allow the R5C to gain that functionality without the need for external power delivery

but yeah the whole R3 and R5ii thing like R3 just is a fantastic camera, but my only complaint with it has always been that when I use my R5 at fansigns like the image quality is definitely there lol

If the R5ii having the higher discharge battery actually allows it to drive lenses faster than the R3 that actually changes a ton for me

The R5ii still has a slower readout speed than the R3 though that much is confirmed. Flash sync on the R3 is 1/180 (still wish it was like 1/250 lol) but the R5ii is confirmed to be 1/160 so imo it's kinda unusable

[velvet violet]

goddamn whole ass bible story

[night mulch]

if Canon had mentioned things like that in the marketing announcement I would've been sold but rn yeah just kinda holding off on it

yw

[frigid frigate]

When it comes to video, isn't Sony basically the best option?

[night mulch]

generally yeah

a7s3 and fx3 are insane

but I mean we're basically at camera tech plateau point now anyways

R5C and FX3 are basically the same exact camera and just comes down to more what you want out of a camera instead

Canon doesn't offer an A7S3 competitor in their lineup

R5 doesn't have false color or waveform which is something I want

highlights are such a bitch in video lmao

[night mulch]

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1865768/999999 yeah this thread wondering the same exact thing as me lmao

[frigid frigate]

Time to switch to Sony

[grave prairie]

In terms of flash , the profoto a2 can sync 1200th
100watts power

Small (fits in your hand)
Lightweight (700g)

Pop it on a light stand if your only going to be facing one way

@night mulch

this setup might work more or less depending on your conditions

from what i’ve read the r5ii is more capable than the 5c

[muted ivy]

Hello, I am now 1 month into photography what do you recommend for photo editing softwares ? I shooting raw and tried lightroom but I found the software clunky

[grave prairie]

Yeah lightroom needs a fairly powerful computer these days

capture one (costs around $20 /month) worked well on a 2015 spec laptop i had until around 2022 when i quit capture one (to save money as i was not doing any paid work)

Capture ones been updated and i think it needs a better pc spec but it certainly worked nicer than lightroom did

Adobe bridge always seems to work well with my low spec’d laptop & photoshop with it for around $10 might be good

[muted ivy]

monthly payment software is just pure pain for me

[grave prairie]

I have a macbook m3 now but im actually using canons software because it keeps the colours nicer to me

Although when i take the pictures i want to retouch into photoshop i need to come out of adobe color and select the camera profile colour option though the colours are never quite as accurate as they are in canons dpp

(I usually use natural profile in camera and in dpp as it gives good flexibility/ flat profile to work with and more natural skin tones)

Capture one was the best for me in terms of colour and also keeping colour accuracy into photoshop but .. $20 a month is mmmmm.

[frigid frigate]

Lightroom is really good but you need a super computer to run it yeah

There is Affinity Photo but I'm not the biggest fan of it

It feels a bit meh compared to Lightroom

[velvet violet]

meanwhile i use lightroom on my phone

[night mulch]

LOL you know I saw someone use something like that recently was doing a birthday cafe I think... it was for ririka? I went to a few while here for ily:1 but yeah like the lighting in the cafe kinda sucked. I was using my r5 and 28-70 f2 I believe and yeah someone held one of those lights up and I was like bro keep that shit up the photos are way better LOL

it wasn't that exactly but it was a solid light

or maybe that's not a solid light since you mention sync speed

[night mulch]

not until they offer a 100-300

I came out here and saw some dudes using Sony A1 and 300 2.8 and I was like man that setup looks sick

thought about it until I saw this dude struggling to keep someone in frame because he was fixed at 300

and then this other guy that uses an A1 was like "oh yeah I took 2 TERABYTES of photos at weeekly showcase"

I was like 🗿

I took.... like 250gb lol

sony cameras are horrible with compression also he was bitching about battery life meanwhile I was still at like 65% on my r3 lol

he has more detailed photos though for sure can't deny that but it's not without it's tradeoffs

wait I did say it in here right

oh no I didn't

pirating adobe is objectively moral but if you want to only pay 4 times a year you can just sub to a plan on adobe, and then go to manage your plan and wait for it to let you which can take like 30 minutes. After that you manage your plan and go try to cancel. They'll offer you 2 free months to keep you subbed. You accept that and then you get those two free months. Whenever you get charged again on month 4 you swap plans which will refund your charge to the new plan you choose, then you switch back to the original plan you want and you get refunded for the swap and then charged for the plan you swapped to and then you just repeat the process again. Go cancel and they'll give you another 2 months free

either that or you just sail the seven seas but

have fun saving money

cause fuck adobe all my homies hate adobe

oh yeah also if adobe ever hits you with that like "oh you're in a contract and you'll be charged to cancel early" bs you can do this for that too. Just swap plans and then cancel

gets you out of paying the "early cancellation" fee

[pulsar perch]

other than the neural filters and the creative cloud stuff, pirated adobe objectively works more often than the paid always-online subscription

for a while I was paying for it and still installing the cracked version because the actual install just had too much problems

then I'd log in with the cracked install and use the online features lol

way too many telemetry stuff, Adobe, stop that shit

[night mulch]

Oh also it just depends on use case. So as a pure single camera yeah the R5ii blows the R5C out of the water unless you're doing like commercial work, but even then the R5ii has clog 2 which is from the cinema line. They did bring in false color, wave form, and a full sized hdmi port which was nice for sure. The problem is though is we don't know if the R5ii has a dual base iso, and the R5ii still will overheat like Canon even admitted there is a limit on how much recording you'll get out of it. Also the R5C has the cinema OS in it which gives you access to super 16 and 35 crop modes, face only detection (really good for having the camera not refocus when someone goes out of frame) and tools like shutter angle plus it never overheats. When you get the two new batteries that's recquired to run the grip, plus the grip, plus the r5ii it comes out to shy of $5k and the R5C is going used rn for like $2600 lmao so it's kinda the pricing. I'm using it more as a B cam if anything which I think is more it's use case so it prob makes more sense

https://youtu.be/_SgFC-cW3G0?si=MJxAJ8YFH57K4Qsx

no stabilization definitely does suck but video makers don't really want stabilization because it adds weird affects to video

you can basically skip the part where he goes over dynamic range cause that part is the longest in the video and basically just a number sheet lol

but yeah he says basically the hdmi port and battery life is the only bad thing about the camera and says it's one of the best cameras he's ever seen

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, I really need to get a cracked version of lightroom

[brittle stump]

Abandon Lightroom, Adopt DxO

[frigid frigate]

Kinda expensive but I'll give it a try

Or well, expensive compared to like Affinity suite

[grave prairie]

hehe, well they have model lights as well which are constant lights so if it was a profoto must have been the model light- if it flashed too.

Or might have been something like a smallrig rc60b or amaran 60s

[grave prairie]

ahhh i see fair

[night mulch]

I've actually really been enjoying like

doing one focus cam and one full group one

but yeah that's probably my biggest problem with my r5 right now is at fansigns when I want to shoot with it I can't because the gauge in the camera for the temperature is so stupid

I don't wanna be sitting here worrying about the camera suddenly being too hot that by the end of the fansign I can only record for like 3 minutes

shit is dumb af and i've actually had that happen multiple times now especially tripleS showcase

when I shot tripleS showcase by the end of it it told me I could only record like 4 minutes of video

[muted ivy]

Im trying Affinity then, there is a 6 months trial and an actual 50% discount

[frigid frigate]

Affinity's ps alternative is great

Don't like it for photo editing though

[granite crown]

tried davinci resolve for a quick gif with a transparent background.

it's confusing as shit

[granite crown]

all i get is a gif with a black background

[grave prairie]

I still to learn davinci

[red tartan]

Davinci is confusing and hard to get used to but is veeery powerful

[grave prairie]

https://youtu.be/qDHnCFMZ9HA?si=kH-FzUB2OT6QsguS

5 hours

🤓

my homework for the next week

[night mulch]

what the

yeah I still prefer davinci to premiere pro

premiere is fucking scary lmao

[grave prairie]

[muted ivy]

Edited my first pics

[night mulch]

Idk why but this channel always disappears for me for some reason

even though I don't have it muted and I am following it

[frigid frigate]

Yeah, forum channels disappear if nobody sent a message in a couple of days

Kinda silly

[night mulch]

Oh wait you're right that's what it was

[trim tree]

nice a pignose S13

"zenki"

both are great to have, fun drivers. Cool pics

[night mulch]

lol I always heard about how like

zoom lenses aren't really true too often to what their listed focal ranges are and so that's not new news

but idk i'm assuming this is due to focus breathing which the canon rf2870 f2 is known for having

I'm currently renting a rf 50 1.2 and a rf 24-105 because I felt the 2870 was too short a lot of times, and the 50 1.2 just for some variation

so I did some testing grabbed a mario mushroom toy I saw in the house lmao

set up the tripod and swapped out the lenses. Set them all to 2.8 and did long exposures to keep the iso at 100 just to check sharpness initially

but the compression and actual focal ranges is... a bit wild and kind of making me reconsider the 2870 f2 now because like I said it might be due to focus breathing is my assumption but yeah look at these results

this is what I would take as true since this is a prime so this was the 50mm 1.2 obviously at 50mm

this was the rf 24-105 2.8 at 50mm.. pretty close. The fact I had to double check the image is probably a good thing

here's where it starts getting a little funny.. this is the 28-70... at 70mm. Keep in mind I didn't move the tripod or anything

and this was the 28-70mm set to 50mm lol

but yeah I always heard this was a thing, but never bothered doing tests to see how off it could be

[red tartan]

oh wow

[frigid frigate]

Pretty big difference

[muted ivy]

Noob question : are they full frame lenses ?

[pulsar perch]

just a question, have you tried turning off lens correction completely both in-camera and in your processing software?

also try comparing the two zoom lenses at 70 and 28 as well, it's possible your lens is actually defective and the focusing ring is not calibrated correctly

because that's a pretty wild difference for full frame lenses at 50mm. the low aperture 50mm primes have always been known to be a bit over 50mm (in the 52-55mm range) but this is too different

[night mulch]

These are all full frame lenses yeah

[night mulch]

Didn't try that. Actually shouldn't be that though. This is a known "issue" with the 28-70 and just normal variance in lenses. I'll get the lenses and camera bag out later though and do some more tests

I know that with zoom lenses they're never true to what the lens is advertised as. You can actually find it in patents whenever manufacturers patent a new lens that like a lens won't actually be 200mm but it'll be like.. 193mm lmao

I know that the 24-105 2.8 is basically a 35-105 instead because the lens correction on the wide end is absolutely horrible

[pulsar perch]

This is why I prefer primes generally, but I'm also not doing events photography like you are, where zoom lenses shine.

zoom lenses are just too many compromises

but the 28-70 f2 is really quite an achievement for Canon

[night mulch]

Yeah short lenses are like basically dead in Korea is the problem I always have. Like that's a lot of the reason I did a huge consolidation on my gear last year cause I just looked at lightroom and I was like

"oh hey like... 95% of my photos were taken on my 70-200" lol

I kept going to fansigns and the 400mm was too close, and the 70-200mm was too short, and all my friends kept telling me 300mm was better these days. After like making that trip to gimhae with that gear I was like fuck it I'm gonna just sell all of this and get the 100-300 lol, but so yeah now like this time same thing like.. 95% of my photos were on the 100-300

it's a double edged sword because while the images are great, at the same time it often does leave me at least being like "okay I want... some variation" lol

and so yeah the 28-70 f2 is really good for that

the bokeh is just so satisfying out of that lens, but god the amount of times I used it and was like "okay this is just slightly too short" was like.. I think literally every time I used it

in the same regard that the 100-300 replaced lenses in my bag I feel like the 28-70 does the same thing. Idk it's a fun lens to use. I always read people online that say like lenses have a certain look and I thought it was mostly bs, but there is some truth to it lol

the photos out of the 28-70 are just really satifsying and probably some of my favorite photos

the 50mm definitely is sharper that being said, but idk 50mm to me is kind of a boring focal length

I really like how 35mm looks more personally

I took this photo the other day making a larry chen joke lmao i'm gonna just send it here cause all my gear is packed up rn I cba to get it out for comparison

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/275566537996369921/1268399236974907452/IMG_3193.jpg?ex=66ae4297&is=66acf117&hm=306a719b307a33bdb5ad809ac5d41dfdd4409858c2e128d988476e6d464ecd74&

but yeah the size difference between the 24-105 and 28-70.. 28-70 is a lot easier to travel with

Also even though i'm sure the 24-105 is the objectively better lens for my use case... 28-70 still feels more fun to use somehow. I always kinda said that if I stopped going to korea I would prob sell my gear, but i'd prob end up keeping the r5 and 28-70 still just because that combination was so satisfying to use

anyways yep ted talk

cameras and lenses fun af to use

all those larry chen videos of him doing car photography kinda looks fun sometimes. been wanting to get into video more too. I think I have a pretty good understanding of cameras and how they work regarding photos and videos (at least comparatively to what I see... from a lot of others lol) but I don't have the creativity aspect 🫠

[frigid frigate]

Pov: you won the lottery

[night mulch]

god I wish

almost half that photo is just rented right now to test

[frigid frigate]

I'd still like to get a camera one day, or well, like, something that's not an X100

I do still think it's very silly how I can sell my X100 with a profit lol

[night mulch]

oh no I pinged

[trim tree]

larry chen mentioned. Takes gorgeous pics

[night mulch]

the 🐐

that dude single handedly was the reason I tried out the 200 f2 early last year

not even joking

[trim tree]

wooow

[night mulch]

I saw that dude using it in a lot of his videos

read up so much on that lens and waited for a good deal

in retrosepct like waffle I ended up just selling it for profit anyways

that lens was so fucking fun to use, but god it missed focus so often

it's not the greatest lens for people specifically moving

but for cars i'm sure it's completely fine since he uses it

[frigid frigate]

I'd love to get something super silly like an FX30

[night mulch]

that lens had such a weird affect

isn't that part of sony's cinema line

hey actually I was considering the r5c at one point.. and still kind of am so guess it's not too silly

[frigid frigate]

It is yeah

I think it's the entry level cinema they have?

A7C II would be really cool as well

[night mulch]

that's what my friend has

well he sold it recently

I know he said the viewfinder and display on the a7c's are ass

looked up reviews and they said the same thing that like content looked completely different out of the camera

like considerably better

https://youtu.be/Qd2DZWDUuHA?si=-LDvO-qehaETo7xZ

yeah this lens for me was the same affect as the 28-70 lmao

it was like so fun to just hold and use and the photos are amazing

I up to thought about getting rid of my 70-200 and just using that instead and yeah going full primes at one point but it's just so impractical for kpop

otherwise all my photos would look like ayano's

[night mulch]

lol I decided to try to do this test again with my 50 1.8 that I never use

wew 1.2 is kinda insane

looks like fucking fog in my room

1. 50mm 1.2 @ 2.8
2. 50mm 1.8 @ 2.8

I'm still giving the benefit of the doubt that the more expensive lens is more accurate

It's wild to consider that the 1.8 is 1/10 of the cost of the 1.2

but that being said I guess you do pay for the 1.2 because the photo I took at 1.2 is kinda wild

1. 50mm 1.2 @ 1.2
2. 50mm 1.8 @ 1.8

you literally can not make out the guitar in the background

Also what I think is pretty cool is this is an actual illustration of depth of field if you look at the table you can see the plane of focus

can truly see just how thin the 1.2 is

I think this is kind of interesting though just goes to show like how good modern lenses are even cheaper one. I mean both stopped down to 2.8 if you blindly showed me both photos I wouldn't be able to tell you the difference

the 1.2 at 1.2 is definitely sharper than the 1.8 at 1.8, but then I guess it comes down to how often you would actually shoot at 1.2

[grave prairie]

I always liked the look of the canon 50mm 1.4 it has a certain character

crazy how different 50mm is rendered across lenses

good tests @night mulch

much appreciated

[night mulch]

Oh yeah no problem. I was mostly doing the test for myself, but also wanted to send it here for second opinions and also just to help lmao

those tests actually really made me kinda have a different opinion on my 28-70 now though lmao

I still love how that lens feels to use

but it's so funny because what I perceived to be sharp actually wasn't sharp compared to other lenses. Like I heard the 28-70 lost sharpness when it was zoomed out. I had so many times shooting with it where I would take a photo and i'm like "this wasn't due to lens shake was it?"

I would even send it to my friends and they're like yeah this doesn't look sharp

it was like in some medium where it looked sharp, but the longer you stared at it you would realize it actually wasn't

since I wanna start doing more video, the 24-105 seems like the better option seeing as it's literally made for video. They're roughly the same price so i'm gonna swap those around here soon. The 24-105 was way more accurate to what it read on the lens and it was sharp all the way through

I have to say with the 50s though I didn't expect them to be so close. Yeah that 1.2 picture is the difference, but idk how often i'll be shooting at 1.2 to begin with lol

[night mulch]

Oh shit people are getting r5ii's already apparently

some people are reporting

[grave prairie]

The people that manage to attend like all the fansigns all year round must be so loaded

Like ridiculously

Have no jobs and just go to kpop concerts and fansigns across korea and often overseas

Can imagine them buying a couple of r5iis is akin to me going to the convenience store for a sandwich & juice 🤪

here’s me working 42- 50 hours a week

[grave prairie]

For photos though i’m happy enough with my 50mp canon 5ds it’s great

[grave prairie]

I mean, it would be cool to have that option is what im saying

[velvet violet]

no this

because i genuinely cannot believe one has a normal job, these people have to be loaded for sure

either family or just idk but jees i wish (minus attending the fansigns, just the camera equipment )

[grave prairie]

https://youtu.be/hzRiBcV11IA?si=xEBgbD9UxP9AZ7D6

Wait

Youtube can fill square format now

[night mulch]

well when it's overseas events that's not them taking the photos that's just someone that lives in that country selling the photso

[night mulch]

it's cheaper to just buy data instead of going yourself

and usually multiple people

I don't know a single person that takes all of their own photos

[grave prairie]

Oh yeah i forgot about that side of things

[night mulch]

there probably is some that do go overseas like itzy fansites and I don't blame them cause itzy doesn't do fucking anything in korea ever anyways lmao

so they prob just have a lot of money saved up

[grave prairie]

Hahaha

Really

Poor fans

Oh well cool

[night mulch]

funnily enough now i'm kinda atp

i'm like humoring just co-running a page with someone

taking photos and then just letting someone editing

an already existing one though cause yeah I just like taking photos

I don't like the whole... editing part

future getty photographer

[grave prairie]

Just shoot jpeg

Get it right in camera

Fujifilm best for sooc

[night mulch]

BUT THE RAW FILES SO GOOD

[frigid frigate]

pov: you use 1tb sd cards :^)

[night mulch]

actually tbh I don't think i've ever filled a single card

I have a 256gb card and I think the most I've ever filled it to was like 75%

now that time when I did 42 minutes of 8k yeah that shit was almost filled

[velvet violet]

meanwhile i use a 64gb cqrd

bc i barely do stuff

wait nvm that was the old one

rn i use a samsung 128gb but thats still not much hahaha

[frigid frigate]

I can't recall the size of my sd card but it's not big at all

Don't really need much since I shoot in the highest quality jpeg option :P

[night mulch]

I actually do wonder if maybe it's just that the jpeg profile in camera looks weird compared to how macos processes them

sometimes the conversion looks so good

other times saturated af

i've had too many times raws saved me though lmao I don't think i'll ever shoot jpeg

[grave prairie]

Canon tends to warm/saturate

Fuji tends to cool/neutral

White balance is key

Set the wb for good skin

(In cam profiles also play a part)

For canon i use neutral

but yeah raw is a flexible save

[grave prairie]

the other profiles tend to warm/saturate

I’ve used the wb shift in certain situations

it’s each to their own

Unique styles are born

I guess that could be a thing in camera technology to come, is the camera detecting human skin tone irl & matching in camera

(with customisation available)

[night mulch]

man the canon 35mm 1.4 they released

it just seems so hard to use for kpop but god I love 35mm

[pulsar perch]

it just doesn't fit the "must see bacteria in skin pores" kpop fansite photography meta

[night mulch]

the only reason i'm hesitant is cause

I aint trying to get that close

sometimes using the 28-70 there was definitely times I put the lens down and I was like "oh fuck didn't realize you're just... right there"

yep yel

hold on where's that photo

that was even against my comfort zone but idk

that's my hot take I like how 35mm renders faces better than 50mm

I know 50mm is closer to what your eyes see, but idk faces start looking flat to me

I took my passport photo at 85mm and I hate how my face looks

yeah like this was 60mm

way too close for comfort

kek yep 58mm

put the lens down and I was like yeah this is too close

too used to shooting with longer lenses

I just can't imagine ever being able to use 35mm properly which is sad cause I prefer how that renders faces

cpw putting out deals for rf 35mm 1.4 $100 off no tax free shipping

https://www.cpricewatch.com/blog/2024/08/street-price-drop-rf-35mm-f-1-4l-vcm-now-only-1399/

[pulsar perch]

I frankly think this is a myth or misconception that photographers just take for granted

in my own experience, 70-85mm was closer to what I would find "normal" in terms of what my eyes would see vs what the camera would see of a person's face when focused on it, and it's what portrait shooters use usually (I use a 135mm for that but that's a whole other story)

and 17-24mm is what the total field of vision for human eyes are anyway. so both way off 50mm

so it's kind of weird, I've never found 50mm to be "normal" despite owning many 50mm to 58mm primes, never been able to capture what my eyes were seeing with the 50mm on a full frame.

but 50 on a aps-c sensor, now that seems perfectly "normal" to my eyes 😄

now 35mm is a whole other matter, I often find that's exactly the field of view I want when looking at a scene (other than detailed wide landscapes)

it's why 35mm was the lens of choice for street photographers classically, especially rangerfinder shooters

it captures the most 'natural' normal looking scenes in my opinion too, humans present or not

50mm is just not wide enough to match the human eye

I think it was Canon who made a pancake 40 something something and said that was the closest to human eye focused on something lol

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2009/03/the-camera-vs-the-eye/

a very old but good writeup on the subject

[night mulch]

oooo huh that's interesting to know

I always found it kind of interesting like a lot of working professionals don't really own a 50mm lmao

well maybe like wedding photographers

all these people ik shooting like motorsport are like oh yeah I have a 35mm or 85mm lol never seen one with a 50mm

[grave prairie]

Iv been liking 42mm on my fuji

( 28mm x 1.6 crop)

for hairdresser portrait work 80-95mm

although 50mm is still good

[velvet violet]

mann is wish i could do a job in photography

would literally be the dream

just travel stuff

[night mulch]

Preaching to the choir on that one

I've been looking into it

But idrk what I wanna do if I did

Photojournalism looks fun yep basically doing that rn

[night mulch]

what the fuck

ok i've always seen like price differences in rf 85mm 1.2 and I never really looked at it because it was never a lens I was humoring

https://x.com/CanonPriceWatch/status/1822481417097388495

CanonPriceWatch (@CanonPriceWatch) on X

Street Price Drops: RF 85mm f/1.2L $2129, RF 85mm f/1.2L DS $2449 https://t.co/0IWycMndMW

Twitter · Aug 11, 2024, 3:53 AM

then I just saw this and i'm like

"oh the more expensive one is just one that's in better condition" because they put that on here sometimes from certain websites like lensrental and adorama iirc

but then I clicked just to see and I've never known until now that canon had two different versions of this lens? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6X0BaG4w-w

learn something new every day

[grave prairie]

ds

Yeah

Smoother out of focus

[velvet violet]

hey guys

im thinking on buying a full film photography cam in september!

but since im a newbie with shooting rolls i wanted to ask advice on which models or brand would be suitable for a beginner

my budget im willingly to spend on is around 150/200 €$

[frigid frigate]

With film, especially as a beginner, getting anything that's affordable will do great

Specific brands and models doesn't really matter all that much. Just make sure that they can use the popular film that's out there as some camera's can be a little picky still with what kind of film you have to put in there

But I doubt you'll find those

So anything cheap will do wonders already

[velvet violet]

gotcha

cuz rn i got that olympus lens ofc so i was thinking what if i just find the body instead

but not sure if i want that in terms of costs

[grave prairie]

I used to own an olympus om1 , any of the om cameras in good / excellent condition will do

[night mulch]

lmao so my friend went to the lightsum busking the other day

here you go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1256944498643308584/1272843106047496202/image.jpg?ex=66bc7304&is=66bb2184&hm=be0ba4e07accd447781c296750e514c2e4299d078bf8099e88ca99c01abccd05&

if you wanna see the madness we have to do in korea

I think the two in the middle are dafttaengk

I know the sony one isn't because they don't shoot sony

really tall one is bamp 8k I see him all the time I recognize that setup a mile away

guess all the cammers are using r5c's now

[grave prairie]

Geezo

Does he stay up the ladder to point the camera ? That’s high

[night mulch]

yeah

oh I forgot to send that photo

took this one time at music bank

can see the same backpack and tripod plus same mic

idk all of the ones there but

yeah bamp 8k on right

that's dafttaengk

man I wish my friend took this photo from an angle like i'm curious what he's shooting with the most

one of them is z a m

rest idrk

but yeah all the big fancam channels use shit like this degen af

[grave prairie]

Do they get paid from youtube ?