Interesting. I've been running reaper as my main daw since 2014-ish. I got yamaha AG06 as my main interface since it's the only one I can route how I want that didn't cost a fortune
#Music Making
solar canopy
solar canopy
Interesting. I've been running reaper as my main daw since 2014-ish. I got yamah...
Forgot the photo
fringe laurel
Oh yeah I know the AG06
vast tapir
<@110372734118174720> <@456226577798135808>
cool mashup
wait you might be on to something it goes really well together
bitter root
<@110372734118174720> <@456226577798135808>
azure trellis
Making a male acapella arrangement of NewJeans NewJeans
Well it’s kind of just a proof of concept to convince a male acapella group I’m in to try kpop lol
vast tapir
how many are you in the acapella
vast tapir
Well it’s kind of just a proof of concept to convince a male acapella group I’m ...
i hope they will say yes
fringe laurel
@serene star what did you use to do instrumental splicing?
I mean separating music and vocal
serene star
<@452082717853614080> what did you use to do instrumental splicing?
i am using voiceremover.org
(the site got better at splicing btw)
serene star
oh
serene star
Are u sure dis good
fringe laurel
Oh ok
serene star
vocal, not voice
serene star
tho it's now limited to one use per day ||but you can abuse it with Opera's VPN feature||
fringe laurel
Oh wow that's actually impressive
serene star
it's pretty fun when you find idea for mashing up songs
or something filtering vocals
or finding just instrumentals
fringe laurel
The usual downpitch made the voice sounded bad so I wanna separate it
and formant shift the vocals separately so it sounds proper
serene star
hope you can create a "proper" clean studio version from it
fringe laurel
Is it bad?
Like I am this obsessive over a song with probably the least listenbase on the album
And knew just recently it was in Baroque pitch when it was demo'd
And rn I wanna hear it in that detuned key with proper vocals
fringe laurel
hope you can create a "proper" clean studio version from it
I dunno about proper studio
But I am gonna do it faithful
That means matching Jaden's terrible mixing
I just need to hear it
atomic tangle
@fringe laurel there is another options for stem separation and stuff, if that's what you're looking for
I'm lately using one site called fadr.com, which doesn't have a limit if i'm not mistaken
I use it mostly to take vocals and make an acapella for my beats
solar canopy
Since I've noticed more and more vocal removal sites limiting usage and requiring accounts or payments, and also the fact that they might disappear any day, I've been exploring some local alternatives for vocal removal and the best one I've come up to so far is "Ultimate Vocal Remover". It's free and open source, comes with some different models and you can download more from within the GUI or manually if you know what you're doing. I've used the vocalremover website mentioned here, made some comparisons with ultimate vocal remover and I don't hear much of a difference.
While I can't say this with 100% certainty but I think there might be similar things happening in vocal/instrument separation field as there are in the AI art generation side of things. I've dabbled a bit with AI art generation and and wondered, how is everyone suddenly making AI art generators as I'd think they are quite complex, and why do most of the website results look very similar in outcome? My conclusion is most of the AI art generation websites just use stable diffusion with maybe slightly tweaked/merged models and some premade prompts that the website creators have deemed good.
So what I think most vocal removal sites do is the same, use free models instead of having created everything themselves and just make a pretty website and claim having created an revolutionary vocal remover. Surely there might be some exceptions. And unlike AI image generation which is very heavy on the hardware, vocal removal tools are much lighter to run locally.
So do yourself a favor and try some free local tools like the one I mentioned if you don't want to be bound by having to be online, try some different models yourself and you might discover the results sound oddly similar to your favourite websites results. Not that the sites don't have place to exist, they provide most of the options you need in the same website without having to hop around different tools, just providing some alternatives.
fringe laurel
Since I've noticed more and more vocal removal sites limiting usage and requirin...
cries in Intel HD Graphics
See all of this is great
But online solutions are like, godsend only because I might completely migrate my working environment to Android tablets
serene star
Since I've noticed more and more vocal removal sites limiting usage and requirin...
There's VirtualDJ with a built in splitter as well
fringe laurel
Have been contemplating for a while and while Windows is great
serene star
and it's free
fringe laurel
Tablet as main machine workflow is pretty attractive
Helps that the bulk of the work I do is online
serene star
I do like creating fun mashups nowadays
The most complex one I ever created was Ven para x PTT one
Need to be creative to make it work
and both somehow shares the similarities
including the theme and the songs being the " war cry anthem"
I had to mashup it
solar canopy
_cries in Intel HD Graphics_
Ah yes. I'm running 1080 Ti, takes around 20 seconds. With cpu (3900X) it took me 1:29 minutes, so quite a bit longer but not exactly unreasonable to since online sites often have some queue times as well. Was converting around 3:30 min song.
fringe laurel
So
It'd take me 20mins for me to process a track using Intel HD?
those online conversions are getting more attractive now
solar canopy
There's VirtualDJ with a built in splitter as well
Gotta do some testing when I have the time, seems interesting. Free version seems to have some limitations.
solar canopy
It'd take me 20mins for me to process a track using Intel HD?
No you're not gonna use gpu conversion if you have intel hd graphics, any cpu conversion is certainly faster than intel hd graphics
fringe laurel
Right
serene star
Gotta do some testing when I have the time, seems interesting. Free version seem...
VirtualDJ free version is still great
solar canopy
Exactly what it says to me too these days with vpn on (I'm using proton), and of the many reasons I'm trying to localize the process. Have you tried with cpu encoding locally yet?
fringe laurel
Where I live, I cannot wait for 1.6GB of a program
It would take me 6 hours
I'll probably try again in a better place but not now
solar canopy
Sure. Is using it without vpn not an option then?
fringe laurel
well the site definitely doesnt seem to like it
fringe laurel
fringe laurel
test
winged fulcrum
test
solar canopy
test
solar canopy
Managed to drop my trusty DT 880's and the left side got damaged partially. Been looking for new headphones as a thought for a long time too, so I saw this as a good enough excuse for an upgrade as well. Landed on the DT 1990.
molten path
Jumped 1110 places up
fringe laurel
AWPOEKAOPWEKAOPWEJKAOPWEKAOWKLEOPQW[AKEOPWAKEOPAKWEOAKWOEAW
wait wait
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
placid bison
fringe laurel
@solid bolt Let's further wash your ears
mild quest
https://youtu.be/h_SlWDqqdvo?si=Gv-Z38sP6HeeyaMA
I been a sicko when it's come around the deephouse so I present ya all my new deephouse music
Why my link never work out
fringe laurel
@serene star
Only if you're free
Do INVINCIBLE (Extended Ver)
I am thinking... very light fade in of the drums (with a high pass filter, sweeping) in the beginning
If you can somehow get the clean pads of the beginning and loop it a few times that'll be insane
mild quest
If you can somehow get the clean pads of the beginning and loop it a few times t...
Why getting a clean pad when you can turn vocals into pad
fringe laurel
fringe laurel
I need an opinion on these
serene star
next hint at upcoming mashup
azure trellis
I finished my first assignment for my recording technique class
It took me 3 hours to figure out how to plug in and record a rant about me failing to do it for 3 hours
I stayed up til 4 that day
Always make sure you turn up your gain kids 💀
fringe laurel
LMAOOOOOO
What did you use?
I am expecting you were in front of a massive cockpit desk of a mixerboard
atomic tangle
Hey y'all i haven't been in a while in here but i bring some software news
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/2-Effects/39-FX-Bundle/11376-Universal-Audio-Essentials-Bundle-Crossgrade-from-FREE-LA-2A-Tube-Compressor?nosto=manufacturerpage-nosto-1 UAD is doing this crazy offer at $49 for this bundle if you first got the free LA 2 A compressor
Is a big bargain knowing that each plugin cost $100+ on its own
Ofc this is for those who like their plugs clean and free of piracy 
atomic tangle
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2023/10/19/kramer-hls-channel-free/ Ah also this one for free
serene star
mild quest
I thought this chat gonna be about making music of different genre but people here only work on one genre which is k-pop what should I do and whom should I ask for the Collab from the people who even don't know how slaphouse genre sound like 🥲
fringe laurel
I thought this chat gonna be about making music of different genre but people he...
Hey I appreciate K-Dnb, or Hardstyle
but yeah being largely a kpop server you might not see someone else who likes niche genres like you mentioned
Probably should stick to the main ones not the subgenres
Things would be different tho if this was..... iunno... UKF server
or Monstercat
mild quest
Monstercat kinda got edms mostly don't they?
fringe laurel
Yeah
but their fanbases also subscribe the subgenres
While on the subject
Coming from a Monstercat fanboy circa 2014
I would really like if kpop explores the classic EDMpop genres we had before
Like bro
K-Prog House?
YES
mild quest
What if we combine 2 genre
Slaphouse and k-pop ?
Never tried but let's get the hands on it recommend me some vocals around the bpm of 100 to 120 quick let me make that shit
mild quest
Alright thank you for this let me put my last brain cells on this thing
serene star
welp, another howl mashup just for chuuves shippers
Sauces:
Chuu - Howl
yves - new
@fringe laurel
aight im done with howl mashups
azure trellis
Transcription of the guitar solo at the end of plastic candy
solar canopy
@fringe laurel I saw you discussing about the bass on plastic love and needing a five string, I've been wondering which bass to get myself and been thinking a lot why not just get four string and tune it to B. Do you see yourself needing the higher strings a lot? I have a 7-string guitar too and definitely don't need the upper strings for stuff I play, baritone would do the the same job while being much easier to mute strings.
fringe laurel
<@130485883190247425> I saw you discussing about the bass on plastic love and ne...
The low E string gauge is not gonna be feasible dropping it to B
It's gonn sag
And out of tune very quickly once you fret more to the bridge
You're talking from E all the way down to drop B
solar canopy
The low E string gauge is not gonna be feasible dropping it to B
I mean of course not, but just getting bigger strings/5 string set will solve that problem
solar canopy
Yes
fringe laurel
There's the octave fret smack somewhere in the song, you can't do that unless you make very weird hand movements
- My band's repertoire is standard tuning, I wouldn't do a new set of strings just to cover one song
solar canopy
Of course, I'm not concerned specifically for plastic candy, just bass in general. Many metal bands I listen play 5 or 6 string, I looked up some tabs out of curiosity and most of them never use the upper strings anyway so I'm wondering is there any point to having them on the way instead of just down tuning
fringe laurel
Jazz use them alot
And
Surprisingly kpop songs that has dominant bass guitar sounds
Uses the low B alot
To get the thump of C and D
solar canopy
Aye, hence why considering just down tuning a 4 string instead of getting 5, since it's easier to play
solar canopy
What type of music do you play?
fringe laurel
Percussive
Well no
We have our own version of Caravan where it's a 4 on the floor version
Our band engage with the crowd most of the time
solar canopy
Perhaps I should have asked which genre, I don't really get any idea from this
solar canopy
I see
fringe laurel
Which can conjure to pop
solar canopy
I'm also very much seeing myself getting two basses, but the question still remains do I get two 4 string basses and down tune the other, or 4 and 5 string
fringe laurel
The latter
If I am playing infront of an audience I don't think I want to bring my experimental bass
Things can go wrong very quickly
Go standard, it's very daunting to unlearn and relearn muscle memory
solar canopy
Go standard, it's very daunting to unlearn and relearn muscle memory
Not sure if I feel the same, I have guitars in E, Eb (or drop Db), drop C and my 7 string is GDADGBE
I also don't play live so that part doesn't worry me currently
serene star
@fringe laurel poof
molten path
amazing
fringe laurel
Yo @serene star
serene star
nice, have fun toying around your new toy
serene star
kek
fringe laurel
Now I can hear all the sub bass notes in this song without clipping my meter
fringe laurel
Alright
This thing is a lot of fun
Alot of fun that can be dangerous
Like
it goes
To the point I can hear driver rattle
atomic tangle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRSH-egVyzk can't unhear this chords on Heejin's Addiction, mostly on the first half/verse and sprinkle thru out the song
In the Jamiroquai song the progression is on the intro and chorus, but i think y'all will hear it lol
celest bough
The musicianship and production is all great to me, but it hasn't connected with me emotionally as much as the Loossemble release has.
For me at least, the Loossemble songs and promotions had more of Loona's personality than Artms stuff.
Of the Artms stuff so far, Air Force One was the standout
languid drum
azure trellis
Impurities uses such a cool chord progression
I finally sat down and figured it out
AMaj7 CMaj7 Dsus Dsus/F
solar canopy
Heejin release is solid. Algorithm is my favourite, rest is more chill, not what I usually listen to a lot but they have time and place. Unfortunately the title track suffers the same faith with the mixing as many these days, vocals too wide, center missing. I don't get it, and it's not present on any other tracks on the album either, very weird trend.
celest bough
Impurities uses such a cool chord progression
Le sserafim?
azure trellis
Le sserafim?
Yeah
atomic tangle
I finally sat down and figured it out
Ayeee i did it too long ago... i didn't wrote the chords down tho lmao, i don't even know what i did, all by ear
So vibey! is my kinda of stuff, that krnb stuff, which i knew Heej was really into
Yea the mixing aspect is still a bit of an issue with any release out of Modhaus still, idk feels flat, could be more open and colorful
azure trellis
I don’t have the technical skills to do this but I had a great mashup idea lmao
Daft Punk - Get Lucky
Twice - Likey
(maybe) Nmixx - Roller Coaster
Get Likey
serene star
placid bison
gonna self promo a bit .. i made a mashup of "as you wish" and "universe" ,, the two songs that got me into wjsn and loona
https://youtu.be/Jybl7ink5NQ
serene star
naisu
serene star
can't believe i "recolorised" all of their new songs
it's a whole mashup album lmao
serene star
@fringe laurel ^^
serene star
tacit viper
winged fulcrum
Don't forget to make backups of your stuffs
celest bough
Oof JJ apologizing for the Sweet Crazy Love (eng) mix
azure trellis
It’s not that bad 😅
Could be better but it’s not that bad
I guess people wanted a mix similar to the original
celest bough
For me, I just thought the vocals could have been done better. But man, it's wild that we got a public apology over it.
azure trellis
For me, I just thought the vocals could have been done better. But man, it's wil...
The more I listen to it, I don’t even see the issue, I guess you could make it blend a bit better but wtf this isn’t bad 
fringe laurel
I have listened to it
No it's not as bad as people make out to be
But I do not fancy it
azure trellis
I think that’s just the English versions in general
fringe laurel
But before that
(HIGHLY PERSONAL OPINION INCOMING OVER A VERY SUBJECTIVE TOPIC)
(look away if you're sensitive of that)
My listening gear isn't the most top
But it is quite discrete
fringe laurel
I listened through my IEMs and headphones, both through the DAC
Ignoring the Youtube video ver
There's imperceptible difference on the instrumental
Vocals however
Oh boy they changed it
This is personal, I am very sensitive to changes in like, VIP or second version of the same song
They very first "hey boy" caught me off guard so hard
Different method of singing, different mixing all that
But that's not major
The most major of all is cadence
azure trellis
Ok after some further listening, the background vocals in the new mix aren’t nearly as good
But yeah I think people are just too caught up in the original
fringe laurel
Before this Jinsoul does
1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
Hey boy
But this new version sounds like
1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
HeyBoy
it's the same with the "you wanna play" line
Threw me off so hard
fringe laurel
```
1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
...
Might be even earlier but it's definitely not on the dot
Only thing I could think of (which now makes sense) is legal
Cause Content ID exists
Now
The people were mostly yapping on the "bad mixing" probably listened through the Youtube lyric and I think that's an editor error
It sounded like someone accidentally left in a compression chain to master
tacit viper
For some reason it felt to me that the lines were out of sync to the instrumental
fringe laurel
For some reason it felt to me that the lines were out of sync to the instrumenta...
THIS
They were off by like
32nd note
At some parts
azure trellis
Before this Jinsoul does
```
1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a
...
lol bro that is like the most minute difference ever
azure trellis
I’d have to say the instrumentals were actually the worst
fringe laurel
Because like I have strong memory of how it sounds in my head
tacit viper
It's a small difference but it makes the entire song feel like a fever dream version of the original
azure trellis
The OG has less mids, more bass and more high treble
fringe laurel
The OG has less mids, more bass and more high treble
Relisten through streaming services
Start with Spotify
azure trellis
It's a small difference but it makes the entire song feel like a fever dream ver...
If they released this as a new single, people wouldn’t be as crazy lol
fringe laurel
I don't hear a difference at all
fringe laurel
tacit viper
I think it's mostly affecting people who listened to the original a lot
fringe laurel
YTMusic ver
Different from the lyric ver
I have FLAC if you really wanna make sure
solar canopy
I think the biggest problem with this whole english version situation is that people have learned to love the original, so anything even slightly different equals to bad. For this same reason you should always be very careful with showing off any placeholder sounds in your productions to people that have any power over the final product, because they will fall in love with the placeholder, even if it's worse, and then you're stuck with it.
Personally from few listens, the vocals sound a bit over compressed to me, and the overall mix is perhaps bit more compressed than the original as well.
fringe laurel
@serene star
Remind me if you did Video Game x Thirsty yet?
Feels like you should've done this along time ago
azure trellis
My professor’s take on the sweet crazy love english version
@celest bough @fringe laurel @solar canopy @tacit viper
This is a guy who’s been in the American music industry for a solid 30 years
This about sums up what I was thinking
It’s not necessarily bad. It’s not as good but it’s not bad
vast tapir
My professor’s take on the sweet crazy love english version
honestly i agree with him
i like both versions tho
tacit viper
My professor’s take on the sweet crazy love english version
That's how I feel too
The volume, rhythm, pace, etc. of how the members sing the lines in English sound off or delayed/less clear than the original
(The lyric video is something else though)
serene star
This is for @placid bison
serene star
yea
i have been thinking about making this mashup days ago and since it's almost near new year
placid bison
about damn time
pallid spindle
getting an audio interface pretty soon and i’m thinking about picking up a microphone as well, any mic recommendations for $100-200 usd?
celest bough
I used to have an ST51 by sterling audio when I was young and broke. I didn't like it, but it wasn't really holding me back from making good music
If you can go to $300, I hear the AT4040 is good
pallid spindle
i see i see, thank you!
serene star
@solid fiber @woeful agate here's mashup I made today
Sauces:
Kwon Eunbi - Underwater
3LAU - How You Love Me (Inst.)
serene star
<@321272834372534273> <@332519981021659137> here's mashup I made today
revised a bit :)
@molten path
molten path
serene star
here @dry pebble
the album was so good i had to make entire mashup album of their new songs
https://youtu.be/ai-4W1hh21k?si=JGdVHq-ZwdHc6NT_
consider this as a "DLC" for pleasure
celest bough
ARTMS songs might be mixed on KRK Rokits, so what's my excuse?
(Poking some lighthearted fun at Rokits because my crappy mixes when I was new sounded great on my friend's Rokits)
fringe laurel
Oh shit it is a KRK Rokit
Rokit 5?
Although their practice rooms have overkill speakers
laughs in Adam Audio T5Vs
vast tapir
Hello, do you know any good asian type sample pack or vsts ? like having chinese, japanese instruments.
solar canopy
Hello, do you know any good asian type sample pack or vsts ? like having chinese...
This is pretty good https://www.soundsonline.com/world-and-traditional/silk
serene star
have a merrier festive season with this very short 16-bit cover of EXO's First Snow!
solar canopy
Will also post here because music people, a bit late but merry christmas
serene star
Happy holiday!
vast tapir
sounds really good
fringe laurel
Hi uh
Probably pretty weird to put this here but
Seo Dahyun has......insane relative pitch
She might be my biaswrecker
Is it actually relative pitch?
azure trellis
Seo Dahyun has......**insane relative pitch**
Yes she is good
I tried playing along but I got really confused by the Korean solfege 😅
But tbh if you have a lot of history in music, you could probably get to that level in a couple months
fringe laurel
And like
The later part where she has to complete the song
She doesn't sound flat at all
serene star
The Chainsmokers x Chuu - Howlin' in Paris
serene star
Chuu's Fox Rain but I replaced the vocal with her cover version from Lee Mujin Service
azure trellis
Vocals are scuffed but oh well
vast tapir
Vocals are scuffed but oh well
I'm being blessed
Everytime I listen to this I remember my jazz teacher
😭
Nothing bad happened he just moved to a far away city but he inspired me to major in jazz
That's how he introduced jazz to me
azure trellis
It’s only of the few jazz standards I know by heart read as the only jazz standard I’ve practiced for the past 2 years
azure trellis
I'm being blessed
Thanks lol
I’m going to peer pressure my vocal acapella group to sing this
fringe laurel
Yuh
vast tapir
This look cool
pallid spindle
hi all, i just released my official drum kit, it would mean the world to me if you check it out and purchase it! :)
molten path
Looks like KR4 Sonic Silver.
unless it's the colour grading throwing me off. Could be a second year WV2 Sparkling Silver 
vast tapir
https://kojikilled.gumroad.com/l/kojikilledofficialdrumkit
Nice, I'll get it for sure, been you using your 3vol sample pack and they are present in 90% of my projects
pallid spindle
unless it's the colour grading throwing me off. Could be a second year WV2 Spark...
tis actually millenium jade haha
molten path
tis actually millenium jade haha
Last year V-Spec then? Nice.
molten path
makes sense. Those were their only offerings that year with that colour. I went with the more prevalently sold one.
#1042536674028159017 message
I am curious how your kit sounds. Is there a way to preview?
or is the lack of a demo a preventative measure to protect the contents?
vast tapir
I am curious how your kit sounds. Is there a way to preview?
I think on his page or on SoundCloud there is a little preview
molten path
nice nice
languid hamlet
WIP. any thoughts (and criticisms)?
solar canopy
WIP. any thoughts (and criticisms)?
Sounds cool, gives me retro-futuristic video game vibes. Not sure if you want mixing advice since you said wip, I could give my thoughts if you want.
dry pebble
This seems like the correct place to go potentially but anybody have any advice on iem's
Still learning about them but wanna get my own pair eventually I think
solar canopy
What's the use case? General music listening on the move?
dry pebble
Yep pretty much that
solar canopy
Also general budget and do they need to be wireless
dry pebble
I did support for an artist but they picked out everything so I just swiped
Didn't know anything about it
Uh wired budget prob like 1300
Feel like wireless would defeat the purpose a bit
Just based on what I hear
Think I wanna go with customs if I'm going this route
Saw recommendations forrrrrr I forget the name but it was Ultimate ears
Was around 1100 iirv
Forget the name
solar canopy
I don't think you can go too wrong with customs
dry pebble
It's on my computer at home 
Yeah that's kinda what I was hearing
I have airpods but just want to get something better sound quality
solar canopy
Tldr about anything audio related from me would be the more buzzwords it has the more scammy and less likely it is to be actually good product
solar canopy
It's very easy to mislead people because you can't just see sound, and if you don't have developed ear to hear certain things it's easy to convince people "the difference is there"
But yeah any iem's on 1300 usd range I would say can't be really bad
Also don't get too wrapped up on the mythical thing of "better" in audio, after certain point (which is not too high these days) it becomes pretty much only preference based, and those golden unicorn tail cables some are trying to sell you are only better if you placebo yourself into believing it (they are really not)
dry pebble
Oh the multi pin cables and shit?
Or whatever
I had to buy one of those from soundcat lmao
solar canopy
As in better, many people refer to being more flat response curve being better, but it's really a matter of taste and the response curves don't really matter expect in pro audio because we're the ones trying to make sound work for all devices
Most people don't like flat frequency response curve, the harman curve is pretty close to most peoples preference
solar canopy
Oh the multi pin cables and shit?
If you mean xlr cables their purpose is to eliminate interference from other electrical sources, radio towers and what have you, mostly used in pro audio for recording because microphone level signals is much weaker and needs to be amplified more, and cable runs are often much longer. There are headphones that have xlr cables, I haven't tried ones, but I would suspect there is no audible difference to human ear at least, maybe a theoretical measurable difference at best.
One place where you could look about specific models is this list from crinacle if you're not familiar with it already. I don't know too much about him but I've seen some videos where he advices against common snake oil in the industry (like everyone absolutely needing an separate headphone amp), so he seems reasonable and knows more than the average "audiophile". Bear in mind it's still just one dude's opinions on the internet, not one and only absolute truth.
https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/
dry pebble
Lmao I got linked that the other day 
I was like oh I'll go ask for some other opinions as well
solar canopy
Well yeah that makes sense, there aren't a lot of people who have tested that many iem's, and as I said, he seems reasonable and doesn't try to sell you bullshit so he seems trustworthy to me, if that means anything. And also as I said, I think it's pretty hard to go wrong 1300 usd budget.
One thing you could do to help map your own opinions is think what do you feel might be missing or is too much (eg. bass), look up your iem's frequency response graph, and open up eq and try tune it to your liking, then try finding headphones that have something more similar to that curve. Or just buy something that looks cool and it's most likely miles better than airpods anyway at that price
dry pebble
okay that's strange I couldn't find this channel on my computer, but I was able to find it on my phone
yeah these were the ones that I was seeing recommendations on
I kind of figured though that they wouldn't be bad. That seemed to be the unanimous opinion was that like iems were gonna be better even at the low cost category
ofc there would be diminishing returns regarding value as you went higher
one of my friends is a videographer in the kpop industry and he has his own pair and he really recommends them
solar canopy
Can't go wrong with those. One thing to note about custom iem's/plugs is that they should ideally be replaced every few years because ear grows constantly and the sound isolation becomes imperfect, though the amount of time is highly variable per person. Also probably not as critical if your goal is casually listening music but something to keep in mind.
dry pebble
I kinda wanna see if there is a place locally that I can look at for models. Either that or i'll just put it off and go visit soundcat in korea again lmao
can get the ear mould done locally pretty easily
assuming that this is what i go with, but would be nice to go test some out
solar canopy
Highly recommended to always test audio products yourself
dry pebble
@fringe laurel weren't you big into iem's or was that someone else
or are you just music production
might have been someone else that was big on iem's
fringe laurel
<@130485883190247425> weren't you big into iem's or was that someone else
Not big but kinda
why
dry pebble
Ah I was wondering if you had any input above if you had been big on them like anything that heh hadn't touched on
fringe laurel
I mean UE is the brand for custom for professional artist
fringe laurel
LMAO
You can also go top of the line
Universe Melody
but I am not sure if they can do stuff in SK
64 Audio is another one
dry pebble
Yeah think people do 64 a lot for support
Saw UE premier price and I was like 
3k not even custom
dry pebble
well that's how much her's were
but that was like the increased cost of it being custom, and the design I guess
serene star
become Dia
dry pebble
not sure yeobo would approve !
yeah those ue premieres are like
idk I read that and I'm like damn am I getting scammed
21 drivers
yep buzzwords
gotta drive 40 fucking minutes for impressions if I go through with this
literal countryside but it's on UE's website
fringe laurel
21 drivers <:KEKW:637704534168174604>
See this is one of those things where Crinacle and UE's engineers need to like
dry pebble
actually emailing them right now
fringe laurel
Sit down
Because you DEFINITELY don't need twenty one drivers in each ear
But because they keep doing it there must be a reason
dry pebble
hey this kinda sounds like cameras
dry pebble
nobody needs 61 megapixels but that isn't stopping sony from putting it in their a7r5
fringe laurel
Harman much easier
fringe laurel
nobody needs 61 megapixels but that isn't stopping sony from putting it in their...
I mean if I can shoot IMAX with it, cool
dry pebble
fringe laurel
Like native IMAX
I mean my point was
Good sounding gears is very achieveable nowadays
I don't know the meta for performer's Frequency Response Graph but I am sure it doesn't divert that far off from flat
Something like 7Hz Timeless would get and that shit is cheap
Or any of the Moondrop's midrange IEM lineups
dry pebble
I emailed
time for more irresponsible purchases
there's gottttaaaa be an in ear place near me somewhere
I look up anything with iems and it's doctors
fringe laurel
I am not convinced till I see an FR graph
winged fulcrum
a wip
serene star
solar canopy
@fringe laurel Any thoughts on ibanez sr series basses? Like some small details you like/dislike that me as non bassist might not think about? I'm eyeing on used SR505 for around 400€ so that's why I'm asking
solar canopy
Also they have bartolini pickups, I have no idea if that's good or bad in the bass world
fringe laurel
The only thing you need to worry about is batteries I guess
fringe laurel
Also they have bartolini pickups, I have no idea if that's good or bad in the ba...
Actually no idea what that is
Lemme take a look
Ok yeah active pickups
Hmm
I have used Ibanez basses before, not this exact but body shape is almost the same
If the wood is okay you shouldn't get where your bass tilts down because it's neck heavy when in playing position
fringe laurel
If the wood is okay you shouldn't get where your bass tilts down because it's ne...
That's what you want to avoid
Like
The bass should be almost diagonal
Not horizontal
While in playing position
So the heft does count
solar canopy
You talking about neck dive?
fringe laurel
You talking about neck dive?
Yeah neck dive
Forgot what it's called
Ibanez basses haven't been consistent in this department
But that's the same for almost all offbrand basses
I have an offbrand Precision of which, has that issue but not alot, I kinda prefer the reduced heft
But considering that at MSRP it's pretty competitive pricing
It should be ok
solar canopy
Yeah it's like 800€ new so it isn't the cheapest end
That's why I'm shopping used, trying to find a good deal
Also if I don't like the 5 string I can just sell it for the same price instead of taking loss if I bought new one
serene star
Jessica Jung's Beep Beep but extended
serene star
(also take a peek at ft. aespa version as well over on #fan-creations)
dry pebble
I've still been looking into the iem stuff
Did more research and a lot of my friends just recommended to go to 64 audio instead. However this results in spending a little more money
there's a 20% off promo code for 64 audio rn and they've been recommending to just... go for a12t basically lmao
still really looking into it all
kind of hate that I can't test out iem's near me like I can't find any and apparently this is common because it's unsanitary so that absolutely makes sense
wait why tf do I not just tag him lol
@thorn maple you still into the iem stuff?
thorn maple
<@148494422194126848> you still into the iem stuff? <:KEKW:637704534168174604>
Yes
What’s up?
thorn maple
Oh damn you're up at this hour
lol
dry pebble
that one time in 2020 wtf did you have me try at that store in gangnam
thorn maple
I’m in Tokyo
dry pebble
I still remember you making me listen to blueming
and I remember hearing the difference, but I remember those iem's hurting my ears because they were uncomfortable
thorn maple
that one time in 2020 wtf did you have me try at that store in gangnam
Hiditon Viento. B variant
thorn maple
You can only really buy them in Korea
And it takes a month to get made for the custom versions
Which is what you want
dry pebble
yep
yeah I did iem support through soundcat
but the whole experience made me want my own
went into the soundcat office to pick them up and went upstairs and talked to a few people there
got sat down in a room and everything to look at them
had them in my hands for about 2 days before I had to give them over to the agency but I was like man these are cool af
thorn maple
But yeah it’s only 6:50 PM for me
dry pebble
been kinda deep diving it and yeah I'm just like man I want something better
thorn maple
So not late at all
dry pebble
didn't realize you were in asia
but yeah i'm gonna definitely do custom
gotta go find an audiologist like kinda sucks I think the only one that does them for iem's specifically here locally is for ultimate ears
read mixed things online people goign to audiologists and having to explain what they're getting
thorn maple
didn't realize you were in asia <:EUKek:569980210234130432>
Here till after IU Seoul
@dry pebble if you go to Korea and get the Viento
You can head to the company and they’ll do it for free
Just bring someone who speaks Korean
dry pebble
yeah says 950 on here
thorn maple
lmao crinacle's list
I spoke to crinacle in 2019, directly, before buying them
And yeah he’s right, they are amazing
dry pebble
lol watching his video now on it
didn't click on these
what the he's roasting my a12t's
thorn maple
what the he's roasting my a12t's
I have those too lol
I prefer my Viento btw
I did tell you to buy a Viento over an a12t
dry pebble
damn if you told me that back then I don't remember it
LOL
I don't think i could have told you what a12t was until like two weeks ago
thorn maple
I did because I owned both and could compare for you
dry pebble
do you just go to random audiologists or have you just gotten them done in asia?
not the viento I mean
thorn maple
do you just go to random audiologists or have you just gotten them done in asia?
I went to an audiologist and brought the guide that 64 audio has
They made them perfectly and I had no fit issues
dry pebble
... they have a guide to give to the audiologist? lmao
damn I actually found it
ok i'm saving this
thorn maple
@dry pebble a12t is great for bass stuff
But I prefer female vocals
So Viento shines at that
dry pebble
yeah that's what my friend was saying
he literally asked me do you prefer bass or vocals and I said bass
and he was like yeah just get a12t lol
since i'm not listening to ballads and what not
You know let me ask you this though I feel like this is kinda a hot topic though
cause I watched a video and they were talking about this too as well as my friend who was into iems lmao
they were talking about like the whole convenience factor like my friend didn't say I shouldn't, but they did say like they essentially started just using wireless earbuds more for the convenience factor and kinda found that to be more valuable than the actual sound quality difference with wired iems
idk maybe it's subjective though
because then I hear from the other side they're like fuck convenience and features
solar canopy
@fringe laurel might be interested, got the bass
fringe laurel
OWO
serene star
fiesta but it's rhodante
placid bison
i knew this will happen .. but i didn't know it was this soon
vast tapir
<@130485883190247425> might be interested, got the bass
wow
vast tapir
same
winged fulcrum
another wip, kinda practicing sound design
minor tinsel
rhodante but it's fiesta
oh wait you literally did it hahaha
serene star
minor tinsel
hahaha didn't expect that 
was reading this article earlier, thought there were some interesting points, and good discussions in the comments too, thought somebody might find it useful 🙂
it's more of an analysis not another "omg AI so awesome"
serene star
oh nice
i really lack at mastering stuffs
even bother at it
and with this I wonder if i could just go back revisit my trashed mashup projects and made it sounds better
minor tinsel
probably can help yeah, especially if you already have a solid grasp of fundamentals when it comes to music production
simplifies things I suppose to get some AI help with more streamlined options
serene star
make things easier hopefully
solar canopy
Perhaps the most problematic thing with AI mastering is that if you have no idea what sounds "good", you're just blindly trusting the machine, instead of someone with a pair of ears. Not saying it isn't useful, it's gotten real good, but it isn't quite one click solution like many tend to advertise
Also if the plugin has great visuals it can really help you to understand the whole process, because you can kinda reverse engineer what it has done, you yourself just have to figure out the why
minor tinsel
agree completely, you can't replace a human mastering engineer still, not for anything proper and professional anyway. AI might just make it faster to reach that "good" stage though, somebody with the right ears for it can tweak it after instead of doing things from scratch, at least that's what I imagine the appeal to be.
and yeah they can also figure out what has been done and whether they agree with it or not.
like everything that has come before, it's just another tool, another plugin to have in one's DAW arsenal to do what you want to do perhaps better, faster, more efficiently?
might be difficult to incorporate into workflow for long time mastering engineer who is already pretty set in their ways though.
solar canopy
I like some sonible plugins, which also boast the whole ai thing, but to me it's more about having kind of instant second opinion how thing should be done, not that I always agree with it. I especially love their true balance metering plugin, helps me a lot to keep on target if I've been blasting for hours so I don't accidentally push +12dB to the bass because I can't hear anything anymore
minor tinsel
like a guidance GPS, not taking what it does or says as gospel but looking at how it got to the destination to get some ideas yourself?
might take you through an unpaved road and toll bridge, and you may not want to go that way, but you can kind of see how you could approach the path yourself, but maybe that's taking the analogy too far lol
solar canopy
Kinda yeah, it has multiple general targets like pop, rock, metal, etc, or you can use a reference track of your choice as well. What I also like is that the targets are not too tight, there's plenty of wiggle room to make adjustments to your taste, which I think is important and will probably actually help out more beginner level people so they don't just blindly do exactly what the ai tells them
solar canopy
Promised @reef basin an example of something so here we go. Don't worry about mixing there is not much of such thing at this phase yet. Original song is la di da from everglow.
reef basin
Promised <@364384787156172800> an example of something so here we go. Don't worr...
Hehe niiiice 
solar canopy
Thanks, I have a lot more stuff but I'm hesitant about how I should release it into the wild, I don't like putting out unfinished stuff too much. This channel is obscure enough that I somewhat trust it doesn't spread too far. If you're ever up for vc I could stream stuff, no pressure to talk if you don't want to. Streaming also makes more sense because I can mute/solo tracks on the fly
serene star
what's this
fringe laurel
We had the "Future Bass Sample Pack" saga
Now we have the "Fresh as Funk Guitar Pack" saga
fringe laurel
Also mariya
fringe laurel
this
serene star
?
fringe laurel
hollon
Post that
To youtube
And title it "When 2 songs are the in the same key"
Im giving you a thumbnail
fringe laurel
fringe laurel
@serene star is it possible to pull super clean vocals now that tripleS has a dedicated instrumental album?
Cause now we have 2 reference original tracks?
serene star
you can, use the Utagoe
serene star
Utagoe 3.0 for exact
Just insert the og song .wav and instrumental's .wav in it
and let the magic happens
(tho it's in japanese so it's all boxed letters)
just follow the tutorial noneless
serene star
Oh look, a Persona 3 mashup
Sources:
Weeekly - Tag Me
Persona 3 -RELOAD- - It's Going Down NOW
serene star
Chocolate (Yellow ver.)
Sauces:
Chuu - Chocolate
Jo Yuri - Yellow Circle (Inst.)
serene star
see you tomorrow :)
serene star
kek why would I
with no money to begin with
will upload to youtube tomorrow
okay but im impatient, so here you go irfan
tell me how you think of this
fringe laurel
I don't have headphones right now but hold on
NICE
But I think it needs some ear candy
serene star
Really Like You (I Really Like You ver.)
languid hamlet
0:35 and 1:32
languid hamlet
so I can hear it
.
serene star
yep
languid hamlet
Knew it lmao
serene star
in the meanwhile @languid hamlet
https://soundcloud.com/andresagitari2022/holssi-ft-nct-taeyong
languid hamlet
Yeah, I heard this before...
serene star
Yeah, I heard this before...
yea, this is the refined and extended version
it adds the slowdown part of shalala to the song
serene star
So I posted this to youtube a week ago
and their responses... is perhaps what we wished as well @fringe laurel
see I wish we would have obtained a full demo of ARTMS' Non Scale for completionist sake if tripleS still having Non Scale released
serene star
maybe
see, of 3 mashups I posted on that day, this one gained most tractions
and these comments are my thoughts as well
I kinda wish that they will save "Non Scale" for later
saving for the modhaus groups collab song
and I have no idea i had this much video views, even tho my twitter post has almost 0 interactions
fringe laurel
DAYMN
dry pebble
iem's got here today time to ruin music for myself
solar canopy
What did you end up getting?
dry pebble
a12t
Kek
it's so fucking weird putting them in but damn is it nice to not hear anything
i'm regretting throwing away so many cd's now lol because yeah I listened on spotify and couldn't really tell much of a difference between a lot of songs
labyrinth by gfriend actually was a stand out though I did pick up a little bit more detail than before
but yeah I guess I need to delve into getting a dac and I talked to my friend in the industry about it all and he was explaining it to me flac and wav files from cd's
also heard apple music is apparently better for iem's over spotify so I'm gonna trial that tonight
but they're super fucking comfortable like it was a weird first feeling but then I forgot they were in my ears after like 3 minutes and just blocked out so much sound lol
solar canopy
Cool
You can't really hear a difference in anything above 320kbps, anyone telling they can I call bullshit
dry pebble
yeah i'm trying to understand the difference between apple music and spotify, but people said spotify has an equalizer but I guess they phased that out recently so that sucks
I had my friend send me all of pixy's music on flac's so I'm about to try it out
i'm regretting throwing away h1key's cd's in korea lol now I want to listen to music reee
solar canopy
Most streaming services are called to use some form of dsp on top of the tracks but I haven't looked into it enough to say really anything about it
solar canopy
but yeah I guess I need to delve into getting a dac and I talked to my friend in...
Only reason you'd need a amp would be if you can't get them loud enough, and that's rarely the case with iem's. As for dac, pretty much all modern devices have good enough dac's that there is no reason to get a dedicated one
dry pebble
lol yeah i'm listening to flac's right now
holy shit yeah thank god I had my audio turned down
these are like considerably louder than spotify jesus fuck
I'm definitely hearing a slight difference with the flac's or like maybe not a difference, but it's easier to pick out certain things? idk
solar canopy
I don't know at which bitrate spotify streams with, there definitely are differences but above 320 kbps not so much, but also depends on the codec
And yeah spotify might be running additional compression on top of it, don't know
solar canopy
I'm definitely hearing a slight difference with the flac's or like maybe not a d...
Did you compare the flacs vs spotify or?
dry pebble
that's what i'm doing right now
solar canopy
I see
Well there might be the said undisclosed processing going on in spotify, hard to say, and also bitrate/codec difference
dry pebble
It is complicated though. I'm talking to a friend and he's like i'm surprised you didn't hear a difference really
whether I can hear a difference or not though I can't return customs anyways so
literally no choice but I knew that getting into this that it was probably gonna not be an immediate thing or that I might not be able to discern a difference at all really
solar canopy
Are you now talking difference between old and new iem's or between spotify and flacs?
dry pebble
this is my first pair so yeah nothing to compare it to besides consumer grade earbuds
I was using airpod pros, galaxy bud pros and like some over ears for a while
forget the name of the sony ones
sony 1000xm3
thanks google
dry pebble
Idk how relevant this is and it could be subjective, but I do have a musical background a little bit so maybe I was already able to kind of discern details but
maybe i'm completely wrong in that regard
oh yeah they're comfortable af, look cool and block out noise really well
I think maybe my expectations could've been too high or I admit I definitely could be doing something wrong
this is new territory for me so I'm not going to pretend to know what i'm talking about at all
the audio definitely sounds cleaner i'll give it that
solar canopy
Idk how relevant this is and it could be subjective, but I do have a musical bac...
Experience is much more important for being able to spot details than audio setup. I've played guitar for 18 years and work in film audio so I know few things too
dry pebble
oh damn yeah you have twice as many years on me
I just took band class in high school and then transitioned into just playing instruments outside of it for a while
I tried guitar but
I sucked at it 🤸♂️
solar canopy
So what do you play?
dry pebble
clarinet, saxophone, flute
solar canopy
Damn
dry pebble
wanted to get into piccolo but that was a bit difficult
but I mean it's been yearsssss since I've picked anything up so
def would be scuffed
dry pebble
I don't own any instrument at all right now besides the guitars on my wall
solar canopy
Ah, I see
dry pebble
which those are just decorations LMAO
I never could get guitar down it was so difficult for me for some reason
solar canopy
Guitars make for good decorations tho
dry pebble
I really wanted to and still kind of do learn how to play a violin. Strings are just really soothing to me and I always envied people who could play
solar canopy
Electric violins are a thing so you wouldn't need to even wake up your neighbors
dry pebble
that was always something I wondered in the last like 10 years or so
I remember seeing people like play guitar through their computers and I was like huh
it made sense but it wasn't something I thought about whether it was possible or not
so i'm like hey that's not as off putting knowing if I fuck up nobody would hear me
solar canopy
Do you play keyboard in any capacity by chance?
dry pebble
Nah it never interested me
solar canopy
Was just wondering that if you did, string/orchestral libraries are quite fun to play around with
dry pebble
I was actually considering listening to some orchestral with this just to see what it sounded like haha
solar canopy
Was just wondering that if you did, string/orchestral libraries are quite fun to...
And perhaps easier to play than stringed instruments, with none of the hassle trying to keep in tune
solar canopy
I was actually considering listening to some orchestral with this just to see wh...
Do you listen anything orchestral regularly or are you just exploring the iem's?
dry pebble
Nothing specifically. Like I guess I should say orchestral but not classical. I'll listen to classical if it comes on but I'm not out searching for it either. It's probably really mainstream but I grew a liking to a lot of final fantasy's music and also a lot of videos back in like early 2010s had Thomas Bergersen and his music so I liked his composing
I think that made me appreciate orchestral more
solar canopy
Orchestral stuff is cool, I too mostly listen movie/game soundtracks for that. Also much harder to make than I initially thought, I've bought some libraries for it but it isn't as simple as adding few layers of instruments, composition is in much bigger role than most other styles of music
dry pebble
it's funny I hated band in school but then like years later I kinda started missing it
I still vividly remember like our band class was separated into like 3 different classes
ours was like clarinet, saxophones, flutes... i'm forgetting some. baritones? think that's what it was called
then the 2nd class was like trumpets, trombones.. fuck I forget what the really big one was called
shit had to sit in your lap LOL all I remember
and then 3rd class was percussion
solar canopy
then the 2nd class was like trumpets, trombones.. fuck I forget what the really ...
Tuba?
dry pebble
and then like we all were learning this one song and then we finally all got together at one point and played the song all together and it was so fucking badass
I was like so this is what the full song is supposed to sound like
I think so yeah
YEP
lmao had like 3 people in the class with those ofc big dudes
holy shit I didn't realize tubas were so fucking expensive
what the fuck 3k
some on here 10k
oh yeah french horns had those too
oh so I guess it was wind instruments separated by brass instruments
LOL my friend tried to get me to play his trumpet at one point yeah fuck that
the formation you have to do with your lips is so weird
but then that was really fun when we got to perform the songs finally for audiences and stuff
solar canopy
I never tried any brass instruments, they sound super cool tho
dry pebble
oh shit I forgot all about oboes lol
I think I found the song we actually played damn I gotta see now
lol yep this is the one
solar canopy
but then that was really fun when we got to perform the songs finally for audien...
I have yet to play for live audience
dry pebble
lol all the comments are like "fuck I remember playing this song"
solar canopy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHv4cAMoqfg
Ahah nice
dry pebble
yep getting ptsd listening to this
solar canopy
I can't wrap my head around how the hell you compose for a full orchestra, too many instruments
dry pebble
composers are insane I have so much respect for them
solar canopy
I have much more respect for them after trying it myself
It's not like my metal or pop projects where I just add synths as I like, you have set instruments and they all have have a specific role and you compose each instrument around that role. Of course there can be synths in orchestral too but you get what I mean
dry pebble
I won't ever sit here and pretend like I can produce music or compose. I definitely do not have the creativity for it LOL
Friend always talking about what goes into it
and I'm like jesus fuck ok i'll leave this to the professionals
basically gotta borderline make music your entire life and it's stressful trying to be different from others
make something that hasn't been done before
Went into one guy's studio in Korea and I was like yep fuck this shit
solar canopy
make something that hasn't been done before
I think this is rather bad way of thinking, like yeah don't completely rip off someone else's work but sounding a bit similar to something is probably going to happen whetever you know it or not
dry pebble
or yeah basically that yeah just don't straight up plagiarize but everything has basically already been done
solar canopy
I really don't know any music theory to begin with as I just play by ear, and my best stuff is always the one night projects where I half accidentally compose something really cool, wake up next morning and have no clue how to continue
Learning theory feels bad as I can already play decently, it's like having to sit in school again trying to actually learn stuff from zero
vast tapir
i kind of disagree tho theory helps when you want to compose a song for example
i remember last year when i needed to create an album since its part of my final grade and i had a song with 3 different key changes
and knowing music theory helped me make it smoothly without too many problems
but if you just wanna play music you dont really need it
solar canopy
i kind of disagree tho theory helps when you want to compose a song for example
Disagree on what? I never said theory isn't useful or I shouldn't learn it, just that it feels bad at this point starting to learn it. It would be incredibly useful to learn but I just can't bother
vast tapir
oh then sorry for misunderstanding
solar canopy
No worries. I can (in my own opinion) write pretty good choruses but I have yet to finish any song completely, lack of theory shows very much
vast tapir
you can always ask for help tho im sure people would be glad to help
solar canopy
Starting from chorus also often leads to a thing where I play all the instruments for the chorus part, then jam along and play leads until I get bored and move on to the next project
vast tapir
hmmm it similar to my method of starting a song i just jam to some cool riff/line
and then base that line somewhere in the song and start building it from there
you can connect something that sounds relative enough to the chorus
to create a verse
solar canopy
you can connect something that sounds relative enough to the chorus
I kinda do but I very often have over 10 variations of a riff and can't decide which one is the best
And then it devolves into "this would suit more prog style, this would be more rock, this would be more metal, this would be more pop", and it doesn't make sense to create same song in 5 genres
vast tapir
i mean you can always create your own version of O.O by nmixx lmao
but honestly speaking it can be good to do fusion between genres if you keep it balanced enough
the song where i had 3 different key changes was fusion between rock and jazz
solar canopy
but honestly speaking it can be good to do fusion between genres if you keep it ...
It can and I have done it, but it doesn't always work in the same song
vast tapir
but if you dont want to do a fusion song just pick the genre you feel the most connected to and the song will work the best in
in your opinion
solar canopy
Also I like to switch around between guitars for the same riff, which range from e standard to drop g
vast tapir
maybe try focusing on one instrument at a time when you create a song
it might be helpful
vast tapir
with that i agree
especially if you can play multiple instruments
but idk when im working on a song i mostly hum a line or a riff or i just play it on my piano
sometimes i use my guitar too
but i focus on one instrument till i feel like i have some kind of structure and sound for the song
solar canopy
I could probably finish something if I had any kind of pressure to actually finish my projects, I usually just move on to the next one
solar canopy
Did you volume match them exactly? People always tend to prefer the louder one. In anything else than volume matched blind a/b placebo plays massive part
minor tinsel
it depends on the entire chain imo
but the differences are often very minimal to most if not all ears
sometimes services like Tidal have special effects and filters on their "hi-fi" and MQA streams that objectively make it 'different' from their 320kbps versions but not necessarily better
solar canopy
Haven't heard about such thing, interesting
I don't really use music streaming services all that much
minor tinsel
The only time I do is when a new release comes out and I need to hear it right away
otherwise I always hunt down the flacs, either through purchase or ... other methods
or buy CD and rip it
solar canopy
I too prefer my local player
minor tinsel
I did get six months free Apple Music with a device purchase so I'm gonna give that a try soon
curious about the surround sound dolby atmos stuff
just as a novelty
solar canopy
Do you have dolby atmos capable setup?
minor tinsel
my parents do, so I'll have to take a trip to their place one of these weekends
otherwise I'll just try the simulated surround with headphones lol
solar canopy
There's not much point in the simulated ones imo
minor tinsel
you're probably right
solar canopy
I mean they just simulate you being in a room with speakers, which is a bit silly when you already have headphones on
And unless the songs natively have atmos mix too I have no clue how they gonna fake it
minor tinsel
I would imagine they are adding a bit of simulated binaural directionality to it to give it that dolby surround effect
solar canopy
There's only so much you can do if you're working with a stereo track
minor tinsel
true
at least from past experience with HeSuVi plugin for Equilizer APO, it's mostly just adding extra soundstage and directionality, especially if the original track doesn't already have 5+ streams
works well for some things, not so great with others
some orchestral and classical stuff can be interesting with simulated surround