but you know
#Programming & Computers
deft shadow
well it's my second introduction to programming course
after learning c in the first one
apparently it used to be python but changed to c during last semester?
sick storm
c and python would make sense
but c and elm is weird
it sounds like you just have a professor that really likes elm and wanted to include it in the course lmao
sick storm
deft shadow
backward slashes my unbeloved
how tf am i supposed to add this shit
double backward slash results in two backward slashes
sick storm
ascii doom running through ssh on a RISC-V drone flight controller
undone thorn
The blades on the drone can even provide active cooling as and when needed!
Optimal setup
sick storm
tfw you drinking with bunch of programmers and all you talk about is linux distributions and vim vs vscode
undone thorn
yikes
sick storm
i mean im not complaining LOL that's probably my favourite topic but it was just funny
scenic turtle
do
{ nik_bankacc=100;
joine_bankacc--=100;
}
while(nik_bankacc<joine_bankacc);
i beg
i need ice cream money
sick storm
💀
scenic turtle
oh wait
minor mistake
do
{ nik_bankacc++=100;
joine_bankacc--=100;
}
while(nik_bankacc<joine_bankacc);
yep
sick storm
please dont take my money
scenic turtle
:(
ok minor modification
do
{ if(joine_bankacc==0)
{nik_bankacc++=100;
joine_bankacc--=100;
}
else
{nik_bankacc=nik_bankacc+robic_bankacc;
robic_bankacc--=robic_bankacc;
}
while(nik_bankacc<joine_bankacc);
now here
what would've happened if I switched the if statement with while
wouldn't it be the exact same result
sick storm
this formatting is so hard to read
scenic turtle
wait
do
{
if(joine_bank==0)
{
nik_bank++=100;
joine_bank--=100;
}
else
{
nik_bank=nik_bank+robic_bank;
robic_bank--=robic_bank;
}
while(nik_bank<joine_bank);
sick storm
why do you do
{ jlkasjdklaj
}
instead of
{
lkajdalksjdl
}
watchumean
oh
my bad
ok so if ur acc is 0, it would iterate once, and i get robic's money
then it breaks
obtuse coral
@sick storm today i tried nix os
i also happened to try sway
one of those was the biggest mistake of my life
sick storm
wayland? I haven't ventured there yet
near shuttle
do
{
if(joine_bank==0)
{
nik_bank++=100;
joine_bank--=100;
}
els...
do...while loops 🤮
sick storm
obtuse coral
wayland? I haven't ventured there yet
im on wayland cause my android emulator is on it basically 
gotta get with the times
sick storm
dont you also have nvidia gpu
obtuse coral
i bought an amd one to replace it shortly after making the switch to linux
sick storm
oh ok because wayland + nvidia is literally unusable
obtuse coral
for now™️
apparently, system76 is trying to change that
hopefulyl cosmic turns out to be an awesome DE
sick storm
I've been kinda considering the switch to wayland but.. i would have to replace everything I use with wayland equivalent software and rewrite all my config and bash scripts
like im super dependant on x11
obtuse coral
rip
it turned out that nixos doesn't work well with my android emulator
it seems nothing does
so im prob gonna reinstall arch in a bit
sick storm
im not surprised at all
obtuse coral
why not
sick storm
due to how libraries and dependencies work in nixos
obtuse coral
yeah
you have to run this scuffed python script that changes your android image to add an arm translation layer
and apparently that just... doesn't exist in the right place on nix
and i don't feel like changing it lol
sick storm
if it expects some linked lib to exist and isnt built with the nix path it wont find it
obtuse coral
also when i installed the android emulator by itself w/o any arm translation layer, it failed to create a mandatory folder in /var/lib, so it just wouldn't start
sick storm
does it have a nix package
obtuse coral
yeah
it was the only broken nix package i installed except for a few gnome extensions
sick storm
did you try to manually create that folder
obtuse coral
i didn't, but because i don't know what's supposed to go in there
i guess i could try to use a vm on arch and see what goes there normally
but tbh... i'd rather not
sick storm
or run it as root or something
obtuse coral
for discord?
that is indeed annoying
i think it works correctly in chromium though
obtuse coral
why?
worthy lintel
i agree
arctic lava
first of all... i hate the forced indent/new line style in python
like i get it but no
thats so ugly
give me my curly braces
i mean thats really it but god i can't stand non curly brace languages
or ones with a proper structure
near shuttle
just use some kinda linting packages
then it'll all look the same
curly braces are just decorations at that point
arctic lava
i like being able to do ridiculous stuff like 10 if statements on the same line
let me do that
near shuttle
u can do that in python too
arctic lava
yeah but with curl braces or keywords
near shuttle
wdym?
obtuse coral
i like being able to do ridiculous stuff like 10 if statements on the same line
i was like this at one point... but also, it's pointless
sick storm
yeah I can't imagine not using auto formatter
obtuse coral
i did it for a while in java cause the vsc one sucked
scenic turtle
`do...while` loops 🤮
Ik....
near shuttle
what is this arcane fuckery
worthy lintel
scriptkit is pretty cool
command palette kinda thing where you can write scripts in ts/js
just made a yt-dlp script with different format options
sick storm
does it run in your browser or
obtuse coral
graphical app make brain chemicals happy
worthy lintel
yea i guess you could replicate it with a terminal overlay or whatever linux can do
sick storm
like I guess it looks cool or something but really a whole ass browser just for a simple ui? electron is the worst
what happened to native apps
worthy lintel
hard to make native apps when you're aiming for crossplatform use
same reason why react native is so popular
obtuse coral
i mean iced exists in Rust now
deft shadow
i become late to one lecture and suddenly im being bombarded with things like “tagged unions” and “records”
worthy lintel
this is what happens when you deviate from the lords language, typescript
deft shadow
who
sick storm
worthy lintel
setting up a fresh windows install is pain
undone thorn
"No, Microsoft. Please don't track every action on my PC."
does so anyway
sick storm
Microsoft moment
worthy lintel
want to have a go with a new framework like remix but have no idea what to build with it
deft shadow
weekly "elm is suffering" message
our exercise for this week is to make a website displaying some kind of number game which would be vaguely easier in javascript but you know
elm
worthy lintel
wtf
deft shadow
as per my instructor's instructions i have to make 8 separate buttons for the numbers 2-9 for a Thing so this is how i choose to process that
worthy lintel
have one function that takes an arg and make the onclick handler of each button just call that one func with its own arg?
deft shadow
these words mean nothing to me
worthy lintel
<button onclick="myFunc(1)">button 1</button>
<button onclick="myFunc(2)">button 2</button>
<button onclick="myFunc(3)">button 3</button>
<script>
function myFunc(arg) {
console.log(arg)
}
</script>
html/js but same idea
worthy lintel
sick storm
probably not that simple in fucking elm LOL
worthy lintel
Elm - delightful language for reliable web applications
with that description i would expect it to be stupid simple wtf
deft shadow
yeah elm is supposed to be "easy" and "simple"
deft shadow
unfortunately for everyone involved i know nothing
worthy lintel
actually mindblown that this is a class
if you're doing web stuff why in the world would someone think this is worth teaching instead of things like react
deft shadow
what's react
sick storm
do you agree @deft shadow
worthy lintel
the web framework that you'll very likely be using if you get a job in web dev
sick storm
imagine if universities actually taught something that will be useful in your future job
they dont do that
deft shadow
do you agree <@847712590351564800>
lol no
well
it was easy before they involved html in it
deft shadow
imagine if universities actually taught something that will be useful in your fu...
can you imagine
deft shadow
a what
worthy lintel
angular is an old javascript framework made by google
its terrible and facebook's react took over a few years later
sick storm
my uni be like "what's javascript?"
sick storm
yea we started with python then moved on to c++
worthy lintel
my high school went scratch -> html -> python
iirc i couldve skipped first year uni and gone right into whatever second year was i think
deft shadow
IT WORKS
worthy lintel
java/c# i think it was
sick storm
damn programming in high school
deft shadow
i learned c++ before c
worthy lintel
the only thing that saved me from being asked to leave school 🙏
sick storm
ngl i dont remember anything about c++ anymore but the python course was useful at least
worthy lintel
i remember trying flask when i first wanted to make a site
and hated it
so i learned php for laravel instead
sick storm
flask aint too bad but i had the displeasure of working with a massive django codebase with 0 type hints
worthy lintel
django is to python what magento is to php
kinda
and i dont wish that upon anyone
deft shadow
fuck this mickey mouse bullshit
the one upside elm has is that it babies you by telling you where all your code went wrong instead of some languages where you get seg-faulted and you will never know why
sick storm
rust still has the best error messages I've seen
arctic lava
use fingers
scenic turtle
Question was like, see if number has odd or even no. Of digits, if odd say odd, if even calculate sum of the least significant half and most significant half. (Left and right) if right big print right heavy, Left, left
arctic lava
dumb
scenic turtle
:(
arctic lava
Why they ask highschool questions in college
arctic lava
Get good sleep before exams, id rather get an extra hour of sleep than study another topic, i mean what are the odds that what you skipped actually shows up (very high)
eager swift
Get good sleep before exams, id rather get an extra hour of sleep than study ano...
the odds are high that the ones u skip will show up... Talking based on my experience
sick storm
worthy lintel
death penalty for that
deft shadow
bad
weak marsh
art
fleet anchor
any tips on learning rust? i'm kind of interested in it but idk where to start other than copying past assignments for other languages but using rust instead
arctic lava
i'd learn it like any other language tbh
learn the syntax, watch videos, do challenges etc
fleet anchor
one thing i like about it atm though is the compiler
its essentially a 2 in 1 compiler and debugger
sick storm
go through the rust book
fleet anchor
holy theres a whole book for it
arctic lava
Wtf
worthy lintel
how do you not realize a cropped image doesn't shrink in filesize lmao
arctic lava
well it should if it saves it as a new image since there are less pixels
but on samsung there might be a similar issue since it allows you to revert an image edits
hot pawn
even if you delete the original?
hot pawn
https://twitter.com/Bottersnike237/status/1636892723012665344?s=20
also i think i know this person irl lol
small world
modest quiver
https://twitter.com/ItsSimonTime/status/1636857478263750656
i thank god everyday for not making me a pixel user
sick storm
worthy lintel
god prime is annoying to listen to
sick storm
highly disagree he's like the only one who can keep my attention
deft shadow
you ever just like
think you finished your code
and then it turns out
it doesnt work
well it works but there's, like, a bug
undone thorn
Yup and then I stay up for 2 hours longwr than i originally planned to fixing it and just adding "one more quick feature"
deft shadow
it's funny because i almost rewrote my code but then my mistake was so simple
and now i regret undoing all my rewritten code
not like it would've worked
fleet anchor
me when i try to figure out whats wrong with my java program only to find out that i accidentally put the entire thing in the main method instead of the class itself
sick storm
worthy lintel
me waking up at 11:30am: accurate
worthy lintel
and going back to sleep after it
sick storm
LOL ok I've never been that tired
worthy lintel
just terrible sleep schedule things
fleet anchor
the dream life
arctic lava
i might be a one off case then
arctic lava
I want this
left aurora
can only imagine its gna be easily dirtied
worthy lintel
just saw in the comments that the screen is programmable with js/css which is sick
fleet anchor
😮
undone thorn
better still be free for students 🙃
deft shadow
folds are fucky
arctic lava
got to talk to one of the developers i look up to yesterday
was a very enlightening experience
undone thorn
What's the secret? 🤭
Genuinely tho - anything you learnt particularly?
languid silo
Hard drives die after time , any good solutions or good long lasting drives for storing data a long time ?
undone thorn
magnetic tape? 🤓
undone thorn
its 3d physics stuff kinda very niche
like simulation/modeling?
arctic lava
like simulation/modeling?
its like 3d physics for games, its quite involved stuff haha
and 3d math combined
its sort of both
undone thorn
that sounds so cool! it's honestly one of the fields im hoping to go into after uni I think because i really like the physicsy-mathsy side
worthy lintel
not a fan of having to repaste every couple months
sick storm
whats goin on
worthy lintel
honestly not sure
repasted a few months ago and it was fine
and in the last couple weeks its been idling at like 75c
was in a league game earlier capping out at 96c and throttling down to base clock
sick storm
wow
worthy lintel
might not have put enough last time so i mightve put too much this time
simply opening a browser would make it spike to like 80c but now its not going over 60
arctic lava
are u sure the cooler is tight enough on the cpu bc that sounds so weird
what about fan speed too
worthy lintel
fan speed is fine, I have everything ramping up at 70c which works ok
but yeah cooler pressure could’ve been it too, made it tighter this time too
deft shadow
i Love recursion
waxen arrow
i Love recursion
arctic lava
i Love recurs(i Love recursion)on
waxen arrow
iLoveRecursion(char *str)
{
if(strcmp(str, "i Love recursion") == 0)
{
printf("i Love recursion\n");
iLoveRecursion(str);
}
}
doing everything but dealing with this merge request rn
waxen arrow
😔
arctic lava
code review is a pain
deft shadow
for an assignment i have to process election data and it is such a Pain
csv's my behated
sick storm
cant think of easier format to process than csv
deft shadow
basically all the results are precinct level so i have to dig through the id's of provinces then cities then barangays first before getting to the results in the precincts and i dont know how to aggregate that data without using a for loop (immutable languages suck)
deft shadow
elm
waxen arrow
i was thinking each person is a struct and youre looking at a specific type in the struct but nvm 💀
i dont have any exp with elm so idk
deft shadow
fuck structs are not a bad idea
deft shadow
yes this is the hell i have to deal with for this semester
waxen arrow
it already looks unfun
waxen arrow
wait idk if ive done stuff with immutable languages
actually no i dont think java or c are immutable
thats a pain though
waxen arrow
how is the data organized?
oh wait csv
so its
data, data2, data 3
data4, data5, data6
yeah i can convert it to a list
waxen arrow
you could parse the file as usual and put it into a list kinda like a struct maybe
sick storm
can you use map instead of a for loop
deft shadow
yeah i can use map
you know this assignment is due in saturday midnight which is
55 hours away!
waxen arrow
probably
in c i could prob brute force it by putting everything in a struct then a linked list and using recursion to do a linear search 💀
very not ideal but uhh whatever works i guess?
deft shadow
im ngl it would probably be so easy in any other language
yeah i wish we used something like
not elm
preferably a language with for loops
waxen arrow
OH i thought no for loops was a constraint given by your prof
not an actual language constraint
deft shadow
i'll settle for c although the way it handles arrays kinda sucks
waxen arrow
pain
deft shadow
in c i could prob brute force it by putting everything in a struct then a linked...
please anything but c
undone thorn
csv's my behated
There are worse data formats: https://markessien.com/posts/drama_of_transcription/
worthy lintel
why is react so fucking stupid
why do i have to add a children prop to the component and render that just to get slots to work
vue just allows any slot to work and you just put <slot /> if you want to render it
fuck facebook
sick storm
code review is a pain
near shuttle
@sick storm @worthy lintel https://twitter.com/TwitterDev/status/1641222782594990080
Twitter
actually pissed
actually taking the piss now
if i want to use the READ endpoint i have to pay 100 USD a month
what a joke
near shuttle
surely this is robbery
like we couldnt spare 5K read tweets per month for free tier???
or 3K for that matter?
absolutely abysmal pricing
sick storm
LOOOL
AINT NO WAY
$100/month "hobbyist" and you still only get 10k requests
1 cent per request
near shuttle
its so fucking stupid
"hobbyist" and is meant for "students" that wanna learn Twitter API
yeah right
WHICH STUDENT CAN AFFORD 100USD A MONTH TO LEARN UR SHITTY API
worthy lintel
i dont even see how to migrate
near shuttle
like okay sure they wanna kill off bots, but did this really have to happen to kill off bots? really? instead of 2 mil a month for the current free tier, we couldnt give 5K read?
so stupid
so so so stupid
sick storm
they also didnt mention anything about the filtered stream endpoint
sick storm
yea
near shuttle
i presume that is bundled in with the GET requests
since it works in a similar way to "reading" tweets
near shuttle
i dont even see how to migrate
i think its instant no? like u just press the upgrade on the products tab
worthy lintel
near shuttle
the 10k wouldnt even be nearly enough
yes, the jump is so insane
its crazy
its actually nuts
worthy lintel
if they dont give me a way to migrate but then fuck with my keys and access in 30 days i wont be happy
near shuttle
the 10k wouldnt even be nearly enough
at this rate you would need to pay a 1000 a month no?
near shuttle
if they dont give me a way to migrate but then fuck with my keys and access in 3...
same, but they didnt even send an email with the stupid pricing upgrade
near shuttle
funny how they had 2 million cap for free..
2 mil cap for free down to 10,000 for 100 bucks a month 😂 like there can not be another more insane discrepancy than that
sick storm
yeah its insane
near shuttle
like if they wanted to kill bots, sure they did a great job at killing them
but they also subsequently killed off all indie developers and aspiring devs because u cannot convince me that a student or hobbyist is willing to pull out a 100 bucks a month for this asinine deal
sick storm
unless you're making mad profits with twitter api then there is no way anyone will pay this
worthy lintel
lmao
sick storm
LOL
wow
and no i won't be upgrading
there is no way I can afford this
I'll just have to kill the twitter features from my bots
near shuttle
welp, unfortunately might be the same
undone thorn
What a way to grow your developer community...
near shuttle
mhm! lovely
woeful ridge
elon legit just trying as hard as he can to kill twitter isnt he
arctic lava
he'll start charging people soon for resetting passwords, calling it "the only way to prevent hacking"
arctic lava
$0.01 everytime you want to login
worthy lintel
sick storm
waxen arrow
👀
sick storm
i do like the "author_is_elon"
sick storm
arctic lava
@me
waxen arrow
what do you guys think 
worthy lintel
waxen arrow
it works though :3
arctic lava
didn't do null safety check
waxen arrow
yeah 😔
undone thorn
If it was at least Azure Dev Ops instead 🥲
worthy lintel
ran into our first spam/pentesting bot 
sick storm
worthy lintel
6 figure salary
i wish
sick storm
yeah that shit only happens in the US
worthy lintel
tbh i could be on 6 fig if i job hopped every 2 years
but at this point i can only work at relaxed startups
since a corporation would never let me wake up at 5pm
worthy lintel
although if my current one fails like the last one did, im probably just gonna become a react codemonkey for a boring agency
since im forgoing salary for stock
and the last time i did that the stock was worth nothing
sick storm
thats very much a gamble
waxen arrow
yeah that shit only happens in the US
😎
deft shadow
i am Finally learning a good programming language in my programming class (python)
granted we have to do static typing but like
at least it's not elm
waxen arrow
💅
grand tide
i love javascript
undone thorn
incredible
worthy lintel
maybe vercel does support hobby tier on github organizations then, kinda deceptive when setting it up if so
near shuttle
iirc when i had to host stuff with vercel i never had to pay
so maybe yeah
whatever plan they have its certainly better than twitters'
sick storm
worthy lintel
actually watched that a couple hours ago and sent it to work chat
since we have fuck all contingency if our db gets nuked
worthy lintel
testing in prod is real
sick storm
oh no
worthy lintel
its also just hosts setup with individual keys in my ssh config
which vsc reads
easier than remembering stuff over cli
sick storm
.ssh/config
arctic lava
ease of access is big thing too
monorepo
worthy lintel
i never want to work on a project with split repos ever again
monorepo makes it so so so much easier to work on a complete feature
arctic lava
Well we have so much shit inside the monorepo that everyone's fighting to get thier own
worthy lintel
im so good at design
raven mist
misobot db also has 0 backups
sick storm
your fishies are not backed up
raven mist
how big is the db
sick storm
like 3gb
sick storm
tens of millions of rows
raven mist
i mean i guess its not needed
sick storm
its not needed as long as nothing happens lol
raven mist
XD
i meant more in a production sense
not like you have customers who depend on the db
sick storm
i mean
sick storm
the amount of angry dms i would get
sick storm
I have to add some backup thing but im procrastinating
sick storm
mariaDB
raven mist
ah
sick storm
so mysql basically
raven mist
can you do a backup on mysql while its still in use?
sick storm
yea
sick storm
I could just make a db dump it would take maybe few minutes
sick storm
i already have daily backups for my personal stuff
raven mist
i just remember using some pg_backup script for daily backups
but would take up some space depending on how long you wanna store em
3gb per backup
sick storm
backblaze B2 cloud storage $0.005 GB/Month
sick storm
my 70GB backup is costing me $1 every 4 months lol
raven mist
sick storm
basically free
sick storm
sick storm
very
i run my data folder through https://restic.net/ and upload the snapshot to backblaze
so there is no duplication of data, only the changes are uploaded
and i can have super long retention
raven mist
very
kinda off topic but do you know anything about the performance of AMD cards
6950xt on sale for €680 rn
or 7749 SEK
sick storm
it only crashes on windows btw
linux perfect
could be a bad unit or something idfk
either way I wouldn't buy Nvidia
sick storm
680€ is alot of money for gpu tbh
sick storm
just gotta not accidentally drop table;
:q
I can't live without vim shortcuts anymore
yes it will
if you use it daily for everything then it will be faster
anything serious i write in vscode tho i have vim plugin
vim good for config files/random text
yea nvim perfect for that
and get intellij vim plugin
most useful shortcuts for me are like cw or ci(
and dd
sick storm
what if i write my bash in vim
font issue
you probably need some icon font/nerd patched
sick storm
worthy lintel
i guess im a right winger
worthy lintel
chatgpt integration works well, boss
deft shadow
amazing
deft shadow
im gonna kill whoever gave my professor the idea to enforce static typing in our python code
deft shadow
whats with all the i's though?
for loops
waxen arrow
are you doing something like this?
for i in range(x, y):
function(i)
function(arr[i])
oh i dont even use i
waxen arrow
bruh
deft shadow
which i assume is... bad practice?
waxen arrow
why initialize it then
deft shadow
anyway i replaced with a while loop so we're all good
waxen arrow
😭
deft shadow
so all i'm saying is fuck static typing and all that it entails
deft shadow
yeah i Think It's a Good Idea but also i'm dying here
waxen arrow
what does the prof want from you 
deft shadow
it also sucks when i search up the error and nothing appears so i will just Have To Guess
deft shadow
what does the prof want from you <:oliviathinking:482987253933801483>
presumably my firstborn child
waxen arrow
i plug error messages into chatgpt
and give the code on the line that has the problem
deft shadow
what does the prof want from you <:oliviathinking:482987253933801483>
he has not met with us since two weeks ago so
he has just posted links to videos online
waxen arrow
😔
deft shadow
i plug error messages into chatgpt <:hyunface:712688736802046023>
oh fuck it worked
thanks for saving my life
sick storm
so all i'm saying is fuck static typing and all that it entails
it forces you to write good code
deft shadow
it forces you to write good code
yeah in hindsight i might’ve been a bit brash
but like
idk the 52 errors overwhelmed me
sick storm
lmao yeah if you didn't have the linter on from the beginning then it's going to suck
i had 1000+ errors to fix in miso bot back when i turned on static typing
worthy lintel
converting a js codebase to ts is hell
undone thorn
do you know any other conditionals that aren't if or try or match
not that I'm aware - what are you trying to do that those can't?
deft shadow
not that I'm aware - what are you trying to do that those can't?
i have been restricted to using match or try altogether and i am limited to three if statements
which is kind of hard when you're trying to do a finite state machine
my professor claims that there's other conditional semantics whatever but i can't find anything
deft shadow
does that restriction of 3 apply to `elif`?
it's explicitly Your program may contain at most three if statements/expressions
so elif might count
as a part of an if statement
do not ask me why this restriction is here this seems Very Bad
undone thorn
that's how i'd interpret it as an "if statement" being the whole block (with elifs and else) initiated by one if ...
deft shadow
abuse ternary statements
ternary statements in python utilize the if keyword
worthy lintel
wtf
waxen arrow
😔
a while maybe?
wait
switch statements
that completely went over my head
and logic operators if it applies
like && ||
worthy lintel
the real question is why is a school course enforcing dumb rules that no devteam would enforce
waxen arrow
Maybe it’s just that prof and they’re evil
deft shadow
switch statements
switch in python is match and that's banned
waxen arrow
bruh
deft shadow
a while maybe?
loops are allowed
idk how tf that would help
and logic operators are allowed too yes
there's a stupid roundabout way to do this
waxen arrow
how simple is the assignment
requirement wise
not restriction-wise
oh wait can you use the 'and' and 'or' keywords?
maybe boolean stuff
deft shadow
how simple is the assignment
given a string we are supposed to find if it's either decimal, binary, octal, hex, or none
deft shadow
maybe boolean stuff
maybe
waxen arrow
ah
waxen arrow
uhh you could do
string = '0x10001234'
is_hex = '0x' and (string[0] + string[1])
print('' + is_hex)
maybe
just something i thought of on the spot
waxen arrow
yeah you could trty that
and do cases for every single type
basically a switch statement without the switch keyword
💀
deft shadow
i think i have to parse it character by character because thats what the diagram said
waxen arrow
bruh
deft shadow
but also i could just. not do that
if this works i need to thank you again for saving my life
deft shadow
uhh you could do
```py
string = '0x10001234'
is_hex = '0x' and (string[0] + stri...
okay so i changed the and to an == and it worked
thanks m8
deft shadow
sucks that i have to cheese it but you know
waxen arrow
shitty requirements mean u get to turn in shitty code :3
deft shadow
😎
deft shadow
wtf kind of professor is this
i think the computer science department in my university is just bad
waxen arrow
😔
sick storm
could you do everything with try except
sick storm
💀
deft shadow
ternary operators couldve been possible but they use if too
deft shadow
yeah but i have to use python
waxen arrow
i think u can do it in python?
sick storm
no
waxen arrow
ah 
undone thorn
i think the computer science department in my university is just bad
*all universities
deft shadow
i could've went to a better university but tuition
deft shadow
no nvm this is effin impossible
i guess three if statements are the only ones i need?
but also i sincerely think that's just a random number my prof chose and there's no meaning behind it
lean river
deft shadow
whats this
deft shadow
i have been restricted to using match or try altogether and i am limited to thre...
it’s dictionaries.
apparently the answer is dictionaries
sick storm
what
worthy lintel
idk what the task is but replacing many ifs and switch etc with a map is usually a good idea
deft shadow
idk what the task is but replacing many ifs and switch etc with a map is usually...
what's a map
deft shadow
cool
that's cool
i swear i'm on the verge of a breakdown
oh fuck i thought you meant the function not the whatever map youre talking about
im tempted to just. Not Do It
given that i've done 3/4 exercises for this assignment anyway
so that just gives me 75/100 which is respectable
sick storm
I was alacritty user for years but I moved to kitty term now for ligature support
worthy lintel
man i need to start doing personal projects way more
i can feel myself getting better at tailwind so quickly
worthy lintel
my design skills are ass but i definitely couldnt do this just a few weeks ago
sick storm
tailwind is great
worthy lintel
i struggled massively with responsive breakpoints
since it works the opposite to bootstrap
which is what i started with
sick storm
it's a bit weird since it's mobile first and you add exceptions to larger viewpoints
worthy lintel
yeah that caught me off guard
since bootstrap is desktop first and you add exceptions for mobile
sick storm
naturally you would think the largest screen is the default
worthy lintel
mysql %like% goes brrr
waxen arrow
Woah
left aurora
👀
sick storm
remember when twitter was supposed to kill the api over a week ago
all my shit still works
and I dont know why
waxen arrow
did they silently revert/go back on the changes?
sick storm
i dont think so because a lot of people have lost access afaik
waxen arrow
thats odd
sick storm
deft shadow
wtf are awaitables
worthy lintel
what language
await is generally used in the context of async functions
in js a Promise would be awaitable
deft shadow
what language
python
worthy lintel
yeah so async await stuff is for handling long-running tasks like fetching data
idk how python runs but javascript is asynchronous/non-blocking, so awaiting something can turn your code flow into synchronous/blocking
sick storm
python async works very similar to js
raven mist
all my shit still works
sick storm
very readable
sick storm
yep
undone thorn
tbf to google, they probably also used it a lot at previous ios too lol
undone thorn
Found out about this via the IO presentation too: https://heistak.github.io/your-code-displays-japanese-wrong/
very interesting problem (depending who you ask) with unicode
sick storm
script kiddies getting chatgpt to write the whole thing for them then it doesn't work and they come asking for help
while not knowing wtf their code even does
waxen arrow
idk how to say it but it just feels off
yeah that, doing but not knowing
well that goes for most things
sick storm
it's so weird
waxen arrow
ah i think this analogy works, its like watching/reading a few articles on a skill and then claiming you're an expert when all you've done is watch/read theory and no practice
sick storm
well in this case the theory would be the docs and these people never look at the docs
waxen arrow
just reading docs isnt enough i think, you kind of need actual coding using the docs to get better
undone thorn
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ngl, im actually a big win11 enjoyer - multitasking especially feels very nice
worthy lintel
gpt’s been handy for writing sql queries for me since I’ve been babied by orm’s for so long but other than that it’s not really useful
native berry
I don't like this influx of chatgpt programmers
every new shiny thing has a following until the hype disappears but I will be worried/surprised if they manage to hold on for a year
worthy lintel
speaking of chatgpt
native berry
starting my third attempt at learning rust please bunny of hard work (heejin) give me strength
waxen arrow
rust is fun, im only on the early parts of the guide rn but its been fun so far
native berry
want to learn together?
but you are right the rust book is really good and in terms of language design and documentation rust is one of the best languages I have seen so far
waxen arrow
i can try
sick storm
native berry
but you are right the rust book is really good and in terms of language design a...
not that I am in any way an authority in language design or so I just like the bit of haskell vibe I get from it and useful err msg are also nice and I like the way it handles memory even though its still awkward for me and the enums are also nice and .... (it just seems like a good lang being less anxiety inducing than C)
raven mist
raven mist
gpt’s been handy for writing sql queries for me since I’ve been babied by orm’s ...
my colleague uses it a lot to like search for things about different languages or libraries, sometimes chatgpt is much faster than to just manually google search it
but sometimes it says something but its totally wrong
💀
sick storm
I've tried it a few times but it just feels wrong
I'd rather google things
I trust a random reddit comment more than ai generated response
native berry
I trust a random reddit comment more than ai generated response
same you often read about "ai" replacing developers but rarely you read "ai" replacing mathematicians or engineering disciplines even though you often need similar thinking and both being problem solving oriented. the only reason I can think of is that most people see code just as text and thats something chatgpt isnt too bad with
native berry
will try to learn a bit of rust in loonatic lounge not sure whether such things are welcome here but I guess I will be warned if not
easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission
native berry
doing the same thing today again
native berry
seems like a good application slowly getting used to it
I should take another closer look at the vim keybindings I only know the absolute standard stuff. like moving around and stuff like 3 d w
had a vim cheatsheet as background when I first learned it
forgot like 90%
I currently use nvim with tmux as my main "ide" my emacs config is completely broken and I dont want to fix it and I dont have any projects anyway and should focus on math 😦
yes but it depends on the application ofc. I more or less only use it to the extend as having a tiling window manager for the terminal (a bit more than that but thats like 80% of my use cases). if you dont have a tiling window manager you will probably get more value out of trying one out instead of tmux but thats just my own opinion and might not reflect your own experience
i like them but getting used to them can be extremely annoying
i dont use kde
the most populat tiling window manager is probably i3 not rly sure how to introduce i3 the best way so here a video https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=GKviflL9XeI
the main aim of a tiling window manager is more or less to not having to use the mouse anymore and to be achieve to a more intuitive/faster workflow through that
i dont think however there is a noticeable difference in productivity at the end of the day it comes down to what you prefer/feel more comfortable with
sick storm
I should take another closer look at the vim keybindings I only know the absolut...
this has all the best keybinds
explained
native berry
thank you 
native berry
finding good emojis is hard
sick storm
it is
tiling window managers are awesome
trying to use floating windows is pain now its so messy
native berry
trying to learn vim + tmux + tiling window manager + uni stuff might be a bit much xD
sick storm
maybe
i did that
but failed all my classes 🤔
maybe there is a connection
I never use tmux tho
just open a new window
end up with same result
native berry
fuckin asynchronous functions and flet
took a look at flet and it looks interesting might try it out when the go support comes
deft shadow
took a look at flet and it looks interesting might try it out when the go suppor...
yeah it's like
it can make like webpages or whatever idfk
native berry
i especially like the no frontend experience required part but I am also always a bit doubtful when I read smth like that. i start running at anything frontend
joinemm seems to be good at frontend their website looks good
(i didnt pry or anything its just right in the profile)
worthy lintel
tailwind very good
sick storm
joinemm seems to be good at frontend their website looks good
well thank you
yeah tailwind is awesome
I tried to edit some styling on one of my old websites that uses just traditional css files and man was the experience awful after being used to tailwind
coming up with class names that don't clash, making sure everything is imported into the right place, remembering css variable names..
the developer experience of using tailwind with autocomplete is unmatched
worthy lintel
i managed to complete a whole feature without getting any help from our dedicated frontend guy this week
actually so easy to get up and running with tailwind
kinda pissed i put off properly learning it for so long
native berry
good job
sick storm
rust
zig
oh nice
😎
but that's how you learn
fixing things
yeah that probably works better than arch ever would after years of configuration
native berry
whats your first? java with uni i would guess
sry will delete
i wouldnt really compare a dsl like R to a general purpose lang like java that being said I never used R and it can very well be horrible
native berry
you got a nice domain kairu
native berry
looking at your stuff and you are an impressive orbit
worthy lintel
no im a brainlet
native berry
sorry that is slang i dont know
ok no definitely not would love to be on your level
my github nonexistent
(or accounts lost)
then we are soon to be impressive orbits
we just have to give our best
but this orbit will now procrastinate learning math with learning rust
come learn rust with me
yes
then I will do ownership too
sick storm
why private repos
native berry
likely because of uni guidelines they dont like to see any stuff connected to them online
sick storm
oh yeah but the configs
native berry
looking good
sick storm
rose pine is nice I used that for some time
worthy lintel
any gamers
sick storm
@ivory ginkgo can i get your vim config i like the statusline and the path at the top
worthy lintel
not using app router ewww
sick storm
idk what that means
worthy lintel
next 13.4
sick storm
next 13.4
oh yeah i had some compability issues with that because it was so new
5 months ago
worthy lintel
yeah was still in beta then
Was full release last month
Been fine for me but I can’t use turbopack yet since clerk uses some crypto stuff
And webpack is so fucking painfully slow it’s actually putting me off working on my stuff
sick storm
yeah i can tell from the file structure
sick storm
@ivory ginkgo did you run into this issue with barbeque i cant figure it out
yea
yeah idk it's weird
oops
doesnt make a difference tho
yeah no that just breaks everything lmao
this doesnt make any sense
oh well i can live without this
native berry
found the video and trying to follow along but dude is fast af
yeah its a good source
native berry
when I use telescope the transparency gets lost did someone manage to fix that? I tried vim.api.nvim_set_hl(0, "TelescopeNormal", {bg = "none"}) but that didnt work
sick storm
could it just be that your transparency is >50% and it gets multiplied by the two windows into being opaque
i have no idea if it actually works like that
native berry
yeah but its a good train of thought
sick storm
i dont use transparency since I found it too distracting
native berry
thanks leroy now i have stolen my vim config together
sick storm
bro using cmd not even the new windows terminal
lean river
okay gimme a break
There u go
(by the way this is like, old old vim I think, last time I used thsi is for my university taking CS)
worthy lintel
cmd is part of the new windows terminal
you can change which it defaults to, mine just happens to be wsl
lean river
cmd is part of the new windows terminal
Not in 10
This opens the command prompt
This however will launch the Windows Terminal
lean river
Also I don't remember why I had this
I didn't learn Python
What people do with git bash again?
Just downloading stuff off Github, that's it?
worthy lintel
git bash just opens a bash instance
shell garnetBOT
git: 'bash' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
worthy lintel
since windows doesnt have bash natively
lean river
since windows doesnt have bash natively
So I installed it, and I forgot why I installed it
this is so long ago
sick storm
windows terminal isnt very useful tbh
worthy lintel
windows terminal the app is great
cmd and powershell are not
i tried swapping to hyper but its terrible
lean river
I dunno
I haven't explored the limits of wt but I know you can like
Start, and monitor your Azure server
worthy lintel
its just an app for different cli instances
worthy lintel
yeah its handy
lean river
One tab you're iftop-ing your VMs, one tab you're doing some funky business with your FreeBSD server
worthy lintel
i just run backend in one tab frontend in another
lean river
And one tab it's an SSH to your Minecraft server you set up in Azure
sick storm
you ever just
worthy lintel
yea
sick storm
lol
sick storm
yea man avocado prompt what could be better
it turns into cherries when theres an error
native berry
i would have time starting from 18:00 for a study session if you are interested also need to do some stuff
sick storm
native berry
native berry
is that also required for university or self interest?
native berry
setting up everything after a reinstall is a pain in the ass