#Fitness Chat

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grizzled quail
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well my apt gym is also 24 hrs

night dragon
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ye its got lat pulldown machine, its enuff for me for a while

grizzled quail
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but yeah my gym is 24 hrs as well

grizzled quail
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just use bb for everything and throw some plates on it lol

clear kraken
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Shdnt apt gyms be all 24 hrs?

night dragon
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o wait another thing r those belts thing to hook plates onto u

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for pullups

grizzled quail
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ye u can use em for dips too

grizzled quail
night dragon
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i dont rly have an option to progressive overload my pullups beyong bodyweight rn

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so not putting it into my routine

night dragon
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i still do em handful times after school weekly along w dead hangs

clear kraken
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Tbh i was hella surprised since it was my first time at the gym there were like 3-4 ppl alrdy working out at 530 in the morning like wtf man

grizzled quail
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progressive overload isnt just weight

night dragon
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ye im steadily in reps but at some point ill need extra weights

grizzled quail
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but ye tbh i wouldnt get a gym membership if my apt gym had all that

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mine literally has a couple treadmills, a pulldown machine, leg press machine, some dbs that are half missing, and a smith machine

night dragon
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icic

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db rack, bb rack/smith machine, cable machine most crucial equipments imo

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can do everything w those

night dragon
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cos mine and think most other apt opens from 6am-10pm

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cos they usually hire someone to watch over da facilities

clear kraken
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Nah i dont go to an apt gym, dont live in one. Just thought that perhaps it could be opened 24/7 if no one locked up chuukek

night dragon
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ye mines not even locked so technically 24/7? i could just head in and turn power on, but officially its 6am-10pm with a gym guy stationed there

rain spear
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50 worry

grizzled quail
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that's what connor curls for warmups

rain spear
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bruh

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back to the gym tonight

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been 10~ days since i worked out

grizzled quail
rain spear
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well i did loads of activities on my holiday

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but no weight stuff

muted agate
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I wonder what my leg press actually is

thin thicket
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200kg

grizzled quail
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you can do a ton of weight on leg press, mine is probably around 200kg if not more for a 1rm

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but maxing leg press is super pointless kekw

rain spear
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ronnie the goat

grizzled quail
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light weight

river tiger
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im planning to train for a triathlon

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wish me luck lads

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following my father’s footstep, lucian will stop being passive and actually do something useful in life

thin thicket
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we got em today boys

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||500 calories|| big burn😎

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walked home in my sweat drenched t shirt in the cold because when I say it was sweat drenched. it. was. sweat. drenched. i ain't letting it ruin my other clothes😭

vestal fog
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nice burn tho

thin thicket
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I love training days because it raises my maintenance to a level where I can comfortably fit 3 meals in

patent orbit
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your path is yours to follow naturally

patent orbit
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if your having fun that's always something going for

tight sage
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is there anything that is okay to continiously snack on throughout the day?
used to like mini carrots, but eventually my body couldn't handle it anymore.

flat sleet
tight sage
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anything that works really. things i often used to eat while gaming before i stopped snacking crisps and m&ms, were unsalted peanuts or the carrots

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just besides the carrots or cheese cubes i am not familiar with anything

patent orbit
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at this very moment i'm snacking on blueberries : )

tight sage
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oh blueberries are nice

tight sage
patent orbit
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yeah

tight sage
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are unsalted peanuts/nuts even bad/unhealthy?

patent orbit
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nuts are good ! lots of protein and healthy fats

tight sage
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is these

patent orbit
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nuts like brazil nuts and pistachio nuts

tight sage
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so if they good i can just keep buying them ten cool

patent orbit
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yeah

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they are kinda fatty though

tight sage
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ah

patent orbit
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i mean, if your eating them once a week that's fine

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they say ' in moderation ' whatever that entails

tight sage
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uh, idk how many this means. i just eat the whole bag spread over a few days

full gazelle
tight sage
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okay good to know. really liked eating nuts, but was afraid to do so anymore since i stopped eating the bad snacks

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thanks

vestal fog
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i thought about going to the gym tomorrow

full gazelle
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nuts are very healthy

tight sage
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ima go buy some nuts right away now i know this. been so desperate in evenings for snacks

full gazelle
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yeah lmao

patent orbit
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yeah nuts are very healthy

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i was caught in the stigma nuts are fatty but it turns out they are not so bad after all

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now i want some nuts too ! hahaha

green falcon
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Huh I always heard that nuts aren't good

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Interesting

patent orbit
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that article i posted is from last month it's quite interesting

green falcon
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Will read that

flat sleet
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Oh so like favorite snacks in general then regardless of nutritional goals? Hell yeah. Below are some of my faves:

Pretzels and cheese
Shrimp chips
Pomegranates
Yogurt and Cacao nibs
Cottage cheese and apple sauce
Ants on a log
Fresh vietnames pring rolls
Chia pudding
Sparkling water (idk if this counts, but I drink a ton every day)

green falcon
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I know you said regardless of nutritional goals but I want to add for people that don't know: carbonated water makes you gain weight

green falcon
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Lemme rephrase that since they are multiple studies but this one from healthline says:
*While plain carbonated water is a better choice than sugary beverages like soda, juice, or sweet tea, a small 2017 study revealed that plain carbonated water increased a hunger hormone called ghrelin in men. Even the beloved LaCroix may not be so perfect.

Essentially, when your ghrelin levels are high, you’ll feel hungrier and are likely to eat more, which can lead to weight gain. But more research is needed to confirm this outcome on a larger scale and in women.

It’s also important to note that not all carbonated water is created equal. While carbonated water is just water plus air, some bottled seltzers and flavor enhancers contain sodium, natural and artificial acids, flavors, sweeteners, and other additives.

All of these could contain hidden calories and extra sodium. Also, these additives can lead to cavities and weight gain over time, studies show, so read labels carefully.*

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Carbonated water can make you hungrier basically

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Meanwhile Dr. Eve Glazier and Dr. Elizabeth Ko told the Chicago Sun in September 2022:

But a study published several years ago in the journal Obesity Research and Clinical Practice linked drinking carbonated water to weight gain. It didn’t blame the beverages directly, instead suggesting that the carbon dioxide that gives fizzy water its effervescence has an effect on body chemistry that can lead to overeating.

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So yeah carbonated water can indirectly cause weight gain I worded that wrong sorry

Just telling you to be careful you might feel more hungry and sorry for the wall of text

full gazelle
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oh wtf i need to start drinking that shit then

green falcon
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I used to love that as a kid

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Now I hate it

flat sleet
green falcon
green falcon
rain spear
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seated dip machine is so goated

muted agate
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I never felt more hungry while drinking it tbh

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and isn't seltzer some kind of alcohol?

flat sleet
night dragon
rain spear
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god damn

night dragon
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did it for da meme dis is ridiculous

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wat do ur actual 50kg dumbbells look like

rain spear
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i'll take a pic when im there but theyre just the regular ones but giant

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stock photo of the ones my gym uses

night dragon
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ok ye da plates might make proportions look a lil off

torn cypress
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40 or 45kg

tight sage
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at the gym and body feels weaker than last week

flat sleet
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It be like that sometimes

rain spear
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loads of variables

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just do your best friend

reef temple
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any ppl enjoyers

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i've been on the reddit one for a long time now but i feel like restructuring and changing the movements up

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v fun

rain spear
reef temple
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yea

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nothing wrong with the one i'm doing rn i just feel like switching some of the isos out cause i'm getting bored lol

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just scrubbing through vids from like, jeff nippard and whatever to see what i can use

rain spear
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yeah i did the same but back to it now

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the different for me is i do shoulders on leg day

strange adder
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||lost some weight|| this last month 🙏 hoping to keep seeing results

vestal fog
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Niceu soulthumbs

rain spear
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woo woo woooo

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i ||gained 1kg|| but i was on holiday so i dont mind

strange adder
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most of that is prob water weight anyway

clear kraken
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feeling good after beginning my workouts a few days ago

thin thicket
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I think I finally found my BMR to be around ||1950 calories||

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its so hard to guess but this is probably most accurate

rain spear
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its all good though

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was nice to have a week of not counting/worrying

strange adder
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yeah you definitely deserve a break where you don't get to worry @rain spear

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can't keep it up all the time

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I've added bulgarian split squats back into my split bc I hate myself

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using the smith machine this time though bc I can get better isolation

rain spear
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niceeee

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I got legs and shoulders today

muted agate
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I got those too

rain spear
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noice

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headphones died :(((

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but got the 22kg dumbbells up for shoulders quite easily

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still have a passionate hatred for legs

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safe to say I've never enjoyed a single leg day at the gym

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shoulders is lit though

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my mood on shoulder and leg day 📈 📉 📈 📉

strange adder
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did arms today still find it exhausting

mighty robin
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arms and upper body always have me be exhausted for 2-3 days 😔

rain spear
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legs do that to me hahaha

strange adder
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I think men and women have the opposite problems bc girls are taught they need to look good from the waist down whereas boys are taught it's the waist up

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and it takes a long time to de-condition yourself from that so the strength on both sides is just imbalanced

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I just want to do a pull up man

muted agate
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I don't think that has anything to do with what you are taught to look like honestly

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or maybe I'm an exception I don't know

patent orbit
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Legs days are fine for me

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Though i’m working mostly on upper body definition atm - needs most attention

copper tundra
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I don't do legs outside of squats and deadlifts

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I just literally never built the habit

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I think im not in a hurry bc my legs looked developed from sports but realistically im making excuses

strange adder
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||cheat meal|| today..ikea meatballs and mini daim 😩😩

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took a lil trip to warrington

patent orbit
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Does anyone else use their dumbells to hold onto during pressups ?

strange adder
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that would require me doing pressups

rain spear
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i just do them normally as i need to use it to strengthen my wrists

rain spear
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gotta have a strict diet week this week, went a bit overboard this weekend oliviakek

vestal fog
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hahah same

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yesterday i feel like i ate like i used to when i started getting overweight

rain spear
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same here but the whole weekend

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but its motivated me to get back to my strict diet

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which is goo d

rain spear
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no tats for a little bit so i can train fully too

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did 4 of 5 days last week

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5 this week 😤

patent orbit
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Wow

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Rest up well too

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Going heavy on the shoulders tonight - 12kg each dumbells 28kg bar

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woah , sweating

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Ok this is a bit of a weird thing to say but, does anyone else like the scent of their sweat ? Mine does not smell bad at all it’s just kind of musky

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Still got a lot of work to do

flat sleet
patent orbit
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That’s kinda risky hehe

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I’m pretty confident though hehe

muted agate
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I just want to remind some of yall that just because it is February doesn't mean you have to give up on goals you have not even started/put effort into. You do not need to mentally tell yourself you need to restart at the beginning of every month/next year. You got this idiot

Likes

1045

night dragon
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can do 3 proper sets of 10 pullup or chinup reps now les go

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just bodyweight tho

rain spear
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still rly good

thin thicket
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just got 1RM 107kg on leg press

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235lbs I believe

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legs shaking

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fr

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tried 113kg and couldn't even move it

sick fulcrum
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pog, gonna join this chat here too

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started doing fitness in like june/july to lose some weight

rain spear
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welcome to the club friend

sick fulcrum
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managed to lost ||20||kg, just not sure yet how low i should go, before starting to bulk up

rain spear
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LudaNod you being comfortable is the main thing

eager sedge
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until you're happy with the weight

rain spear
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i focus more on how i look than the exact number

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and i figure the numbers out based on look

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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gonna put the pin back to the top

sick fulcrum
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ohh sure, one sec gowon_heart

rain spear
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tysm

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my goal is ||85-87||kg, currently at around ||90||

rain spear
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but i started at like ||102||kg so im very happy currently

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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nicee!! congrats so far

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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keep up the good work too

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what kinda exercise do you do?

sick fulcrum
sick fulcrum
rain spear
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ohhh dope! is this weightlifting?

sick fulcrum
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yess

rain spear
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nice nice

sick fulcrum
# eager sedge did you go on any diet?

sorry, just saw it now haha
well, no specific diet, or calorie tracking, all i did was track my weight to see what's working and somewhat guess how much i can eat accordingly

eager sedge
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oh, thats good!

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congrats :D

sick fulcrum
eager sedge
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<3

patent orbit
patent orbit
flat sleet
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Anyone else get lazy when it's time to increase by 50 lbs?

sick fulcrum
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heresy!!

sick fulcrum
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if you read this, do a 1 minute plank rn yujinpoint
i'll do one too now

patent orbit
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I did 5 minute plank earlier Smile

flat sleet
sick fulcrum
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no shame if any of you cant do 1min tho ofc! just do as much as you can for now and gradually work towards the 1minute mark over time, you can do it!🔥

river tiger
patent orbit
grizzled quail
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this new protein powder i got is S tier tasty

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also it's whey isolate so i can drink it even tho i'm lactose intolerant catJAM

night dragon
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i drink pure whey w mango flavored creatine

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makes it taste p nice

rain spear
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nearly had the perfect session yesterday but some guy was hogging the pec fly machine so i had to swap my last 2 exercises

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but i still got everything dont at a good weight

muted agate
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anyways went to doctor and found out the issue time to start exercising again

eager sedge
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Just did a yoga practice

clear kraken
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cuz the other day i had a dude hog the pec fly machine and istg in between sets he was just on the phone for 5 minutes but i didnt know what is the right way to interrupt

rain spear
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wait until they finish their set and ask how many they have left, then from their you can either wait or you can ask to jump in, meaning when he rests you work and vice versa

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that usually gets people to go faster too

eager sedge
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im sleepy after the yoga practice

tight sage
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last time i went it was busy and couldn't do my 2 main leg machines...
tried keeping myself busy with other stuff till i could find a chance, but each time i finished one of the others other ppl were already on it. i just went home then.

rain spear
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happens to me sometimes

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some days i just dont wanna chat to people

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but if youre in the mood you can ask to jump in or just ask how long they have left and then queue a bit

tight sage
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find it so akward to just stand there and stare/wait for them to be done. am way too quiet/shy for any of that.
think from now on i just avoid going before 10pm

night dragon
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ngl im alone at my apartment gym 80% of da time

full gazelle
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yeah if i go around 5-6pm then there's always a queue for the benches lmao

rain spear
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Good news is I lost ||1||kg this week

bad/annoying news is I'm at ||90.1||kg hahaha

night dragon
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gonna keep cutting rest of this month but just took some measurements and i reached my goal of getting below 14% body fat alrdy

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maybe can get to 12-10% from these last weeks dat'd b a dream

mighty robin
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going to the gym at a different hour than the usual and seeing people idk is making me anxious choerryNLTzoom

rain spear
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you got this!!!

patent orbit
sick fulcrum
sick fulcrum
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wow so tallwonfever

rain spear
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hahahah

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my BMI is apparently like just overweight but i have a lot of muscle so its whatever

vestal fog
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connorstronk

rain spear
mighty robin
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BMI is outdated and not very inclusive iirc

sick fulcrum
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it’s not the best, but you can still kinda take it as an indicator ig

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you just gotta know how to interpret the numbers

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main advantage is, it’s easy to calculate

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if you got the data for it, body fat percentage is much better tho

night dragon
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i use da us navy method calculation online dat needs waist and neck circumference as well to calculate body fat %

sick fulcrum
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like, big difference if you’re "overweight" and it’s all fat, or when it’s all muscle

sick fulcrum
night dragon
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just need a tape measure for waist and neck measurements its p quick

sick fulcrum
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i‘m sure we got one, just gotta check where it iswonkek

grizzled quail
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ive never calculated mine either tbh

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i dont think it really matters unless you have a specific bf% goal? but i feel like most people just have a weight goal

full gazelle
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my galaxy watch can calculate body fat, muscle mass, bmi etc it's pretty cool

patent orbit
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The La Serrafim workout is a really good fat burn & tone workout

strange adder
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usually you'll only need to track exact bf% if you're comping

rain spear
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getting the 22kgs up for shoulders but it's a struggle today

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2 more sets

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😤

strange adder
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||lost almost an inch on my waist|| since the beginning of jan, doing 9ish hour IF window and ||tracking macros|| for the first time

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🙏

eager sedge
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nice one casti

strange adder
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oh, also incorporated 20-25 mins of cardio before weightlifting which is what I used to do years ago

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but kept seeing things online that said you don't need cardio

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maybe some people don't but it turns out I do

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so much misinformation online now

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esp on tiktok it's awful

rain spear
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gz casti

strange adder
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thank

rain spear
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yeah cardio is important just to keep your heart healthy

strange adder
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it makes me feel better too

rain spear
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1 more set this is gonna write me off today

strange adder
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also wakes me up to weightlift

rain spear
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yeah same

strange adder
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gets rid of my fatigue

rain spear
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I love the feeling after kickboxing where you're just spent but you worked so hard

strange adder
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I miss kickboxing

rain spear
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it's so much fun isn't it

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evii has started filming stuff for us to put on insta and caught a snippet of a head kick I got in practice haha

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felt good

strange adder
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like head height kick?

eager sedge
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are you flexible connor?

rain spear
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yeah my head height

rain spear
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I can kick to my head fairly comfortably

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like a proper kick not just swinging my leg up

eager sedge
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oh

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what stretches do you do?

rain spear
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I have a full routine I do after kickboxing but it comes mainly from kickboxing itself

eager sedge
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oh

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im trying to find a stretch routine

rain spear
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mine isn't online it's just one we do at my school

eager sedge
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oh

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lucky haha

muted agate
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I just repeat this one 15 minute stretch video I found online and do it every day

eager sedge
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which one is that?

muted agate
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well I'm not good at telling if it is good or not but here you go

eager sedge
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oh

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its okay

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i actually follow another stretch routine but im scared of getting bored of it

rain spear
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it's not really an exciting activity you just have to do it

eager sedge
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yeah i know

muted agate
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I have to go back to actual exercises but I got way out of rhythm not sure where to even start

strange adder
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omg I also ||lost 0.5in from the biggest part of my thigh which is where I hold weight the most|| I really thought I wouldn't get results there for a long time

muted agate
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how do you measure weight of specific body parts?

strange adder
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||just use a tape measure, it's just circumference|| - I don't weigh myself bc muscle weights a lot so if I think I weigh particularly high it'll probably really affect my mental even if it's not fat

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I used to have an ed so I'm trying to do it in a way best for me that won't make me relapse

muted agate
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oh in

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I read that i as l and just filled it in as lb

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speaking of weight ||around 2 days ago I saw the weight show me 99,8 kg which I'm not sure if it was correct because nowadays I see it hovering around 100-102kg still need to lose another 10kgs to get into the range of normal weight||

night dragon
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if i gained weight after a week, eat a lil less and vice versa

sick fulcrum
eager sedge
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you can focus on cardio?

sick fulcrum
strange adder
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sometimes I walk to the gym so count that as my warmup lol

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also think I'm gonna have to stop deadlifting even when my form looks correct it just ends up hurting my back and I'm fed up!!

flat sleet
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I just went live on Instagram for one heavy bench set in case someone needed to call me an ambulance lol

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(I lift at home and my wife isn't home right now)

sick fulcrum
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lmao, nice idea tho

grizzled quail
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no dont encourage this behavior

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wait for your wife angryDoggo

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or lift lighter if you dont have a spot angryDoggo

strange adder
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^^^

flat sleet
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Let me clarify then: It's just one layer of the measures I take. I have my safety straps angled in a certain way that allows me to slip underneath the bar if I do drop it, and I practice failing and getting out before I begin my working sets when I know I'm going for 3 or fewer reps in a single set.

grizzled quail
eager sedge
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lost around ||2kg|| so far

patent orbit
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lets go

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they give good warnings of over doing it

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3 sets of 15 is good for me atm

full gazelle
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i can only do 10

patent orbit
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just enough without over doing it

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after i broke my elbow i was on like .. 3

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after 6 months of rest

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point is you know your body & it's limits

full gazelle
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ok i can do 15 actually but barely

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and i dont think i could do more sets after that tbh

rain spear
patent orbit
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And

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There is nothing wrong with just maintaining the same workout . If you wanna do 14 pressups everyday awesome .

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Like , your keeping fit and maintained you don’t have to go for gains

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Just maintenance and that’s good enough

eager sedge
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What do you mean?

patent orbit
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You don’t have to push to do more reps or more weights or go harder

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If your maintaning a consistent exercise regime that keeps your body moving a d subtle thats awesome

eager sedge
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Oh

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Okay

patent orbit
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As long as your not like eating macdonalds and chips everyday , keep a nice diet

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Light consistency is good

sick fulcrum
vestal fog
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marketing strategy

sick fulcrum
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fr

eager sedge
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i dont actually eat fast food as much as i ussed to

muted agate
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I can barely do 1

sick fulcrum
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doing push ups on an elevated surface for your hands helps a lot, to start out

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the higher you go, the lighter it will get

grizzled quail
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if you want to just maintain your current physique, then yes this advice is applicable

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for many people who have strength goals, size goals, etc, progressive overload is important

patent orbit
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For me i'm def going for the gains 😄

tight sage
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aye, managed to do my whole fitness routine today 😤

rain spear
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woo woooooo

rain spear
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getting yesterday's gym that I missed done today 😤

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staying on schedule

muted agate
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I need to make a schedule again

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maybe change up the squats eventually because not sure if it is a good idea to get over 100 squats after I get back to it

sick fulcrum
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better safe than sorryidktbhprobablyanod

sick fulcrum
muted agate
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I was thinking about doing single leg squats not sure if it is a good idea with my weight

night dragon
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dumbbell single leg or split squats my leg day staple for months

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never stopped hating it

muted agate
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I saw a lil video and wanted to try it out

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going to single leg squats into dragon squats and then sissy squats

night dragon
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dat sounds not fun

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u got dis

thin thicket
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i can't use the barbells they scare me

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esp going solo

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have to use the dumbells

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also its less embarrassing when i can't do a 16kg bench pressfeelsyeojin

sick fulcrum
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opposite for me tbh

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i mostly use barbells bcs dumbells scare me

patent orbit
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Burpees are a bitch

night dragon
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ye at some point dumbbells are so heavy just getting em to ur starting position is a challenge

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for a db press or watever

flat sleet
rain spear
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im not too heavy with them yet but i have them up and kinda fall back into it

sick fulcrum
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i need to try bench press with dumbbells someday, i always did with a barbell so far

thin thicket
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I think you lay down and kick them up with your legs as such

eager sedge
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my body feels different from 1 month progress so far

muted agate
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feeling like a butterfly after stretching is such a cringe statement but if you do it for a while it is actually true

eager sedge
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i quite like stetching nowadays as well

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its so relaxing :'))

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although ive only done it for 1 or 2 weeks so far

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but i already see progress with it bc i was a bit flexible before

sick fulcrum
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i really need to do more stretching too, but it just feels so weird doing it at the gym idk

eager sedge
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do it at home instead

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maybe do it as part as your evening routine or something

sick fulcrum
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theoretically, it would be done best right after the workout, no?

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when your muscles are still warm, you can move them more

eager sedge
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oh

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idk

muted agate
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I personally always stretched before working out

rain spear
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dynamic stretch/warm up before exercise, static stretches after ChaewonThumbsUp

eager sedge
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whats the difference?

rain spear
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Static stretches are those in which you stand, sit or lie still and hold a single position for period of time, up to about 45 seconds. Dynamic stretches are controlled movements that prepare your muscles, ligaments and other soft tissues for performance and safety.

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from google

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says it better than id be able to word it

eager sedge
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oh

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thanks

tight sage
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i need to find a arm warm up. only got cycling for lower body which is prob enough

muted agate
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you could try something like this

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exercises are easy but when you do one movement 60 times within 5 minutes you will feel it

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I guess this is more chest oriented though

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maybe this

muted agate
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speaking of arms ||tried doing push ups today and managed to do 5 regular ones||

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had to tap out after 2 sets though

copper tundra
vestal fog
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pog

rain spear
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wanna try and get the 26kg dumbbells up for chest press today

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havent done for a long time

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even if its just one set im gonna go for it

rain spear
tight sage
green falcon
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Back to the gym today eeeee

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Also I just took a wrong step now it feels like my leg is killing me so I hope the gym will help with that

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I am not that old yet lament

tight sage
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hwaiting!!!

rain spear
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gj hiz!

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going gym in like 2-3 hours

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already starting the mental prep for bigger dumbbells kek

rain spear
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got 2 sets at 26!!

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sets of 10

turbid patrol
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GO ON BBY

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hehe

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Also hi every one

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Well done for taking more steps toward your goals ♡

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trying to get my steps up from now on each day as it’s the lil things

vestal fog
eager sedge
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Finally lost all my water weight

flat sleet
patent orbit
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on rest day #2 atm ..

sick fulcrum
sick fulcrum
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not quite sure yet how much i should do with dumbbells wonfever

flat sleet
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I know you werent asking md, I recommend starting low and ramping up. I can't fathom dumbbell benching what I barbell bench. I bench over 300 lbs, and I would probably start with 50 lbs in each hand as a warm up set then increase based on feel until I found the right level of exhaustion I'm looking for.

sick fulcrum
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thank yougowon_heart

flat sleet
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You welcs

eager sedge
rain spear
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so i cant help sadly

thin thicket
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down to ||100.8kg|| from ||107.7kg||, its been one month

grizzled quail
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at my heaviest ever at ||166|| lbs!! less than ||10|| lbs to go

flat sleet
thin thicket
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it's incredibly difficult to do, but just take it day by day and believe in yourself and anything is possible

flat sleet
eager sedge
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I finally got to my goal !!!

mighty robin
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ayyyy congrats!!!!

eager sedge
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thank you!!

thin thicket
sick fulcrum
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i went like half the weight i‘d do on bench but damn huge struggle getting in position with thosewonfever

muted agate
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after exercising in Tuesday I started getting sick and I couldn't lift my arms above my elbows for 2 days

full gazelle
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that's normal especially in the beginning

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but maybe you went too hard

muted agate
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didn't feel like it tbh

sick fulcrum
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might also not be from working out and you just got sick, one time, i was hurting so bad, it was like very hard muscle soreness, but turns out it was actually bc i had gotton covid

rain spear
sick fulcrum
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i‘m not used to using heavy dumbbellswonfever

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but actually pressing them wasnt that hard, more stabilization tho

rain spear
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for sure

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you can like put them on your legs and prop them up as you fall back

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thats my system atm

sick fulcrum
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yea yea, that’s how i did it too

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still a huge struggle thowonkek

rain spear
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youll get more used to it i believe 😤

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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im almost comfortably doing pull ups and dips without assisted weight anymore

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which is one of my main goals

sick fulcrum
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actually need to try, i feel like i could do dips, probably not pulls ups tho

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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time for my weekly leg day tantrum

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got 3 sets of 22kg dumbbells for shoulder press though

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but leg day still killed my mood

sick fulcrum
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why you doing shoulder press on leg day thowonkek

rain spear
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so i can focus chest and tri's more on push day

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and then i have something to look forward to on the 3rd day

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if it was only legs i wouldnt go haha

strange adder
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gotta do what works for you and actually makes you want to workout

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even if it's not what people would class as most 'optimal'

sick fulcrum
sick fulcrum
rain spear
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true

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i mean as much as i hate it and it makes me feel unwell, i do get legs done every week

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so the systems working

grizzled quail
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i also do push/pull/legs+shoulders

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very effective

sick fulcrum
night dragon
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i do chest, back, shoulders, legs so push pull push leg?

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remaining 3 days just dead hangs and pullups chinups

grizzled quail
night dragon
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ik

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just too used to it to switch up n target muscle groups twice instead of once a week

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for now

grizzled quail
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if it works for you it works! no need to do anything

night dragon
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actually ill change it in 2 weeks after im done cutting

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should just be a matter of switching the order of exercises around right?

grizzled quail
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not necessarily

night dragon
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instead of all chest exercises on 1 day, share it w shoulder day as well sthg like dat

grizzled quail
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that's a traditional push day yea

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the thing is, your split could theoretically be more effective

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just kinda depends on your goals atm

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but cutting down on exercises or compacting days is usually counterproductive

night dragon
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not having to do barbell squats, deadlift n split squats all on one day sounds kinda nice ill try this

grizzled quail
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push - pull - legs/shoulders

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wait it's pinned here kekw

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it's not updated tho, i'll update it

night dragon
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ill check da pin later, could use some examples

thin thicket
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push pull legs/core for me

sick fulcrum
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upper-/lower body for me btw

rain spear
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at the gym

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but so tired

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wonder if I'm burnt out at all

thin thicket
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sometimes its okay to just take a few days break

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your body needs time to rebuild and reset

sick fulcrum
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rest is smth our body very much needs toojihansad

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too much calorie deficit could also be a reason if you‘re cutting atm

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or not enough sleep, sleep is very important

thin thicket
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yeah good quality 8 hour sleep is necessary

green falcon
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you guys sleep 8 hours?

flat sleet
green falcon
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6-7 hours are my maximum

thin thicket
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some people need less just make sure you get atleast 5 REM cycles

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most people need 5-7 REM cycles each night

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avg being 6 ofc

flat sleet
# rain spear wonder if I'm burnt out at all

Lat's time I was too tired to go into my workouts consistently, I needed to switch to a plan that was easier to recover from. From my experience, you need to allow for more recovery the stronger you get and especially if you're losing weight

flat sleet
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It probably doesn't help that I have sleep apnea, but my cpap machine should be helping with that issue

thin thicket
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make sure your circadian rythm is synced with the sunset and sunrise it can help with more restful sleep

flat sleet
flat sleet
thin thicket
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anyways, just done 1hr on the treadmill and did 5.7km and 20 mins rowing for 2.8km

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time to go home

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leg day was yesterday too so this was real hard lol

green falcon
flat sleet
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A few weeks ago, I said I would brain dump my eating thought process as someone who loves food and cooking more than lifting but still eats high protein. It's taking a long time, so I'll just paste the link here in case anyone wanted to see the work in progress: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12nacQ_W_vh--UmO4f5xUWA4RTfS0e3Rqbkq7mQOmKyY/edit?usp=drivesdk

thin thicket
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i don't think i will have legs tomorrow

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bed ridden

grizzled quail
sand crown
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so a friend of mine is doing 'body recomposition' and for some reason I've been unintentionally subconsciously following it as well

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seems to be working

full gazelle
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what does it mean

night dragon
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think it means bulking n cutting simultaneously, gaining muscle n losing fat at da same time

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instead of calorie surplus u hit da gym on a deficit and get ur energy from body fat burnt instead

rain spear
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oh thats what i do, didnt know the name for it

night dragon
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theres mixed results from wat ive seen n not universally recommended cos it usually takes a long time to know if recomp works for u as an individual, instead of da tried and true cut on deficit and bulk on surplus cycle

flat sleet
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I think I was doing that on accident when I first got on the Stronglifts 5x5 program after coming off a long time nagging injury

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My legs and chest got huge, but my weight was barely dropping

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I just chalk that up to born again noob gains

rain spear
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being stricter with my diet this week as i maintained last week

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😤 need to see those numbers

thin thicket
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water weight is so mean after a tough workout, i'm up by ||2kg|| despite being in a ||calorie deficit|| but apparently when you get muscle soreness your body sends fluid to your muscles to recover which is why there is extra weight retention

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it was legs which explains why its so much but like

flat sleet
thin thicket
sick fulcrum
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first time doing "normal" squats today (i normally do them on smith)

rain spear
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youve done them or will do them?

sick fulcrum
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on it right now haha

rain spear
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you got this!

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lmk how it goes

sick fulcrum
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tbh, i feel it more on my back (where the bar goes) than on my legs lmao

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went well for the first time tho i would say, need to get used to it, much more stabilizing needed

rain spear
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for sure for sure

copper tundra
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pressed on my spine ode

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and maybe i just got used to it or changed the position overtime

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a lot of wobbling down the stairs teehee

flat sleet
copper tundra
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bc i had no clue how to place it

flat sleet
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Ohhh so like the bar was pressed against your spine?

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What I do to alleviate this is push my shoulders blades downward and together to get my upper back muscles squeezed. Some people call this "the shelf"

eager sedge
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ive gotten stronger

rain spear
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hell yeah

eager sedge
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:D

thin thicket
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based min

eager sedge
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yeah!!

tight sage
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under immense stress forced myself to the gym rn. was afraid if i didnt go now i'd not go anymore

full gazelle
#

gj

flat sleet
#

Wanted to share with y'all that I'm really stoked on my bench progress. I hit 291 lbs for an easy 3 reps today. If I don't plateau, I'm going to hit 305.5 lbs for 5 in 3 weeks.

flat sleet
thin thicket
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Bench press???? nearly 300lbs?! thats awesome

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I can only do like 32~40lbs atm

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im so weak at the chest haha

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what no training in your whole life does to a mf

flat sleet
thin thicket
rain spear
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got a push day to look forward to this evening catJAM made some minor changes to my diet to get a bit more veg/nutrition in and its helped a lot with my energy levels i think

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weight im lifting is going 📈
body weight is going 📉
PES_Stonks

flat sleet
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100-150 bench from 32-40? With 9 months left in the year? Yes, it's possible but challenging.

So that's a minimum growth of 60 lbs. You'll need an average increase of a little more than 1.5 lbs per week, but you need to take into account plateaus.

If I were in your shoes and was hyper focused on hitting this goal, I would try increasing by 2.5 lbs or 1 kg a week. If you fail to finish your set, don't increase weight the next week. If you fail the next week, reduce the weight by 10 lbs or 4 kg the following week. In 4 weeks, you should be back at the same weight you failed at but hopefully you can finish the set.

copper tundra
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Sumo topset from ytd

Realizing for the first time how badly my underhand is slipping now that ive been doing consistent form checks

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Don't think its a consistent problem bc i hit it last week but it seems like a particular weakpoint

flat sleet
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I have the opposite problem. My overhand tends to slip because my fingers rub past my thighs

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To me, it looks like you finish with your back after your legs lock out. If you're looking for a form improvement to work on, I would consider trying to start with your hips a little lower (as long as your arms are starting vertical)

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This short explains some of my deadlift form cues if you want to check it out: https://youtube.com/shorts/g90BVxncoTw?feature=share

Learn how to deadlift conventional and sumo technique featuring Yangsu (Yu-yu) Ren aka Deadlift Panda. #SHORTS

Get my book on fixing injury here:
https://www.amazon.com/Rebuilding-Milo-Foundation-Enhancing-Performance/dp/1628604220

Get my book 'The Squat Bible' here:
https://www.amazon.com/Squat-Bible-Ultimate-Mastering-Strength/dp/154039542...

▶ Play video
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#openthebook

green falcon
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Back at the gym

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Immediately sweating after 10 mins okcryingcat

green falcon
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That's kinda funny bcs I somehow never sweated much before at the gym maybe it's because it got warmer recently??

copper tundra
#

i will have to fidget with the set up some more

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i just figured last week that my stance was too wide for where my hips seem to gravitate towards so i'll see

sick fulcrum
rain spear
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also been sweating more

vestal fog
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yeah when i was walking outisde today i was also sweating more

full gazelle
#

global warming fr

thin thicket
#

global sweating

grizzled quail
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@flat sleet last working set so very ugly, but any form tips? think i need to not stare into the heavens above and keep my spine neutral LMAO

rain spear
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ive dieted well this week, hope to be back under ||90||kg when i weigh myself later

thin thicket
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i'm confused i ate more and weigh less

rain spear
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😤 will report back in like 7 hours kek

tight sage
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started drinking cola zero 😤 1 step at a time

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def have noticed now that i lowerd sugar intake by alot that im always tired starting early evenings already

rain spear
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youll just be transitioning now

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your body not used to the lack of sugar

thin thicket
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i don't know if this is the right channel but i threw out my trigger foods so i can avoid overreating 👍

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todays breakfast was protein oatmeal

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had a very strange texture loll

rain spear
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hell yeah

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yeah i bet, a lot of eating better is just getting used to new foods and food textures

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i dont enjoy everything i eat as much as i used to but I know its doing better for me in the long run

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and, i enjoy the results of eating better way more than i enjoy the pleasure of eating unhealthier foods LudaNod

thin thicket
#

i think i used to suffer from BED so i'm trying to recover from that, which is hard because its a daily battle lol

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today is cardio day and i woke up late so im ready for a busy gym

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no joke i went at 7pm one time and i think everyone who had a gym membership decided to go

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its 3pm so like 1 hour pre busy time

rain spear
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god damn hahaha

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cardio is slightly better in a busy gym as you usually only need 1 or 2 things

thin thicket
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yeah just treadmill and rowing today

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rowing is like really hard tho

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within 2 minutes im out😂

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then i realise i have another 18 minutes to go

rain spear
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hahaha

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its a fun one though

thin thicket
#

back muscles📈

thin thicket
#

sweat pouring out of every place in my body

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my hands look like when you put them in water for too long

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thats how i know i worked hard🦵🦵💪💪

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time to row💪💪

thin thicket
#

beans and sosig for dinner

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big protein

flat sleet
#

I've heard recommendations both ways for looking up vs down. My physical therapist tells me to look ahead at the floor while my old personal trainer had me look pretty high up. Your arms start perfectly vertical which is great for reducing the range of motion. I think it's mostly the natural spine like you said. (Edit: this was supposed to be a reply to @grizzled quail )

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One thing I find myself wondering but can't tell from the video: do you spread the floor with your feet? I find that really helps tighten my lift at the bottom of squats and sumos. It really helps me recruit my glutes.

grizzled quail
grizzled quail
flat sleet
grizzled quail
little adder
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How much do y’all squat?

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That’s the only metric I’m asking cause the rest of my lifts are subpar compared to my squat hyunface

grizzled quail
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um the last time i maxed was 225 @ ||160 lbs|| bw, maybe more like 245-255 now

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the goal is 2x bw squat this year

little adder
grizzled quail
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ask @flat sleet how much he squats oliviakek

little adder
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@flat sleet how much do you squat jinsoulblush

grizzled quail
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yeah ||a little more than 3 plates is my goal this yr, since im going for 2x bw||

little adder
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Same

grizzled quail
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im maxing in a couple weeks tho

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we'll see how everything has improved since the yr started

flat sleet
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I weighed in at ||273 lbs|| this morning. My PR is 500 lbs.

little adder
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I’m also ||at 160|| and I was able to get my max from 225 to 290 in the span of 8 weeks cause I realized that the 4 months I was working out I was never working my upper body hyunface

little adder
little adder
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Who knew that the upper body being weak would limit a squat oliviaha

grizzled quail
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wait, what's your bench then hyunface

little adder
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Like legit my back was giving out

little adder
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I can also only do 2 pull-ups lol

grizzled quail
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omfg

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dont be slackin on that upper!!! it's important too bahaha

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my goal for this yr is pretty much 2/3/4 plates b/s/dl

little adder
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Yeah people were surprised when I said I worked out cause I never worked out my upper body loll

grizzled quail
#

especially with that squat lol

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that's so funny

little adder
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I just hope I can get to 1x bw/ 2x bw / and like 320 for hexbar deadlift

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We don’t got regular deadlifts

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But a bigger goal I have

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10 pull-ups lol

grizzled quail
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i can do a muscle up

little adder
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I can’t 👍🏻

grizzled quail
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it took a while to get one

little adder
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Calisthenics hurts my brain

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I’m super impressed with anyone that does it

grizzled quail
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calisthenics are great tbh

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to me they're the most impressive feats of fitness

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i cant do em for shit tho kekw

little adder
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I’m too long and my upper body is too weak to do calisthenics lol

grizzled quail
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too long?

little adder
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I’m about 6’1

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And my arms are weak as heck lol

grizzled quail
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i see

little adder
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I could probably do calisthenics in the future but I’m too weak atm

grizzled quail
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i never thought about height affecting it, i'm 6'2 monkaS

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we just get better ROM okay 🐐

little adder
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Heck yeah

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And when we put on muscle, you barely notice it

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Especially thigh muscle fakesmile

grizzled quail
patent orbit
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Iv not done much this week. Chest and biceps on tuesday that was it. Not been feeling it this week.

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Rest week i think

eager sedge
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kinda ate like crap this week not going to lie

thin thicket
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i ||weigh sub-100kg|| for the first time, this morning i was ||99.2kg||!!!!

fleet sable
eager sedge
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But i got a lot more active

fleet sable
#

I need to start getting more active again. I used to be getting active until i had an accident and stoped biking daily and i think its been a month now. So upset about it but i cant get myself back into it

eager sedge
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oh feelsyeojin

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i hope you get well soon!

fleet sable
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Thank You, lets all try to be better this week

eager sedge
#

yeah!

thin thicket
little adder
little adder
little adder
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That moment when you ate nothing for breakfast and hit new prs on three hours of sleep hyunface

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Except for bench

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My bench is trash lol

thin thicket
little adder
#

But anyway

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I just read an article, but before I never considered the fact that head position actually matters in bench press

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You have to keep your entire body tight and stare straight at the ceiling

eager sedge
little adder
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I’ve been this weight for the past 8 months or so

eager sedge
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Oh wow

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I'm still losing weight/fat

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I'm at ||55kg||

little adder
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Used to be at ||150 lb|| back before I picked up my summer warehouse job again and actually had to start eating again

eager sedge
#

Oh

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My goal weight is ||48kg||

little adder
eager sedge
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In between 5'0 and 5'1

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( 153cm )

little adder
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Ah ok, I’m at 6’1 so that weight is like on the verge of death weight for me

eager sedge
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Oh

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Oops

little adder
#

That’s definitely an achievable goal, just keep in mind, if you are building muscle, you won’t be losing weight, but your physique will look insanely good 👍🏻

eager sedge
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Haha

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Thank you

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Guess Ill need to up my cardio and full body workout game lol

little adder
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My cardio is weak as heck lol

eager sedge
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I like cardio more

little adder
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My goal rn is to squat 2x bw, bench 1x bw and deadlift 2x bodyweight and run a sub 6 minute mile

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My cardio is trash and my mile time is just under 7 minutes rn lol

eager sedge
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I don't really go to the gym bc it's not for me

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I follow yt workouts instead

little adder
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Personally, I think resistance training and working out with someone else has really helped me with getting stronger

eager sedge
#

Oh

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I've started getting more stronger

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But I still struggle with planks and stuff

little adder
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Bodyweight exercises are great but I don’t have the discipline to do them oliviaha

eager sedge
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oh :/

little adder
eager sedge
little adder
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You won’t notice results in a couple days but you will see it over time

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Maybe try doing some other exercises that target areas of your core you don’t focus on often

eager sedge
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word of advice for everyone: if you are starting out your fitness journey you should just do stretching or cardio often

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yeah

eager sedge
little adder
eager sedge
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they do low impact exercise

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i can't do high impact that often

little adder
#

High impact as in things like plyometrics or running?

eager sedge
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yeah, jumping around

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running i dont mind

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but jumping is too hard on my knees for some reason

little adder
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When I started running, I did way too much volume in my first week and my ankles hurt until I took a rest for the next few days

eager sedge
#

oh

little adder
eager sedge
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whenever i stretch now, my ankles hurt too

little adder
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Also make sure your knees aren’t caving in

little adder
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You know how to do squats right?

eager sedge
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yeah

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i know

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i got proper form for that

little adder
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Jumping is basically the same as a squat

eager sedge
#

oh

little adder
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But explosive and you leave the ground lol

eager sedge
#

you need to bend your your knees?

little adder
#

??

eager sedge
#

i meant as in for jumping exercises

little adder
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Yes you need to bend your knees 😂

eager sedge
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okay

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oops

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said the wrong thing

eager sedge
#

i dont make sense sometimes

little adder
eager sedge
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ah okay

little adder
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You need to absorb the impact or your knees will go backwards

eager sedge
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no wonder why it hurts so much feelsyeojin

little adder
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Just be glad that we caught this before you hurt yourself 💀💀

eager sedge
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haha

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thank you for reminding me though

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i think i feel more confident to do high impact now

eager sedge
little adder
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Notice she absorbs the impact by bending her knees

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I think number 9 in the blue is a better example

eager sedge
little adder
eager sedge
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it just hurt

eager sedge
little adder
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I’m assuming your still young

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Cause if you’re still young and springy you have some leeway before you are in pain for months 💀

eager sedge
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yeah, im young

little adder
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I’m young too so I’m just parroting what some older people taught me

eager sedge
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oh

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thats good though!

little adder
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But still, don’t hurt yourself too bad 👀

eager sedge
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oh

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you're even younger than me 😭

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but cool

little adder
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No worries, you’re still in your soft and spongy phase where a injury or two won’t kill you 😭😭

eager sedge
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but i need to play it safe bc i've actually never injured myself before

little adder
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Yes

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That’s why proper form is important

eager sedge
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nor sprained my ankle or something

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but yes

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i agree

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the thing with some fitness youtubers on yt though, is that you have to really figure out the form yourself 😭

little adder
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Btw if you ever do get into resistance training with things like squat, bench or deadlift. Make sure 200% that you have proper form

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Like get a friend that knows what they’re doing

eager sedge
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yeah

little adder
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Cause you can actually hurt yourself pretty easy with bad form

eager sedge
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i could ask actually

little adder
eager sedge
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i have a mirror

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but its kinda smallish

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:/

little adder
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You have a phone that you can record with right?

eager sedge
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yeah

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but i dont have enough confidence

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lol

little adder
eager sedge
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i guess

little adder
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It also is a confidence boost when you can look back on the videos a few months, or years down the line and think “dang I really didn’t know what I was doing back then”

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It might be embarrassing to see you being so bad, but it also helps you see how far you’ve come along

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not that you’re bad or anything rn

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I don’t know cause I haven’t seen your form

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Btw it’s 3:30 in the morning so I probably have to sleep

eager sedge
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goodnight

little adder
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Goodnight 🌙

eager sedge
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thanks for having this convo with me

little adder
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No problem 👍🏻

muted agate
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well this made me think that I'm probably doing my squats wrong as well

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tried doing a push up where I don't bend my elbows to the side and found out that I'm back at being able to do 0 push ups

eager sedge
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😅

copper tundra
copper tundra
copper tundra
# grizzled quail sure!

hard to see but looks like you're mostly yanking the bar off the ground rather than slack pulling

grizzled quail
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ty for the resources!

copper tundra
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if im just practicing i can feel the difference between pushing my hips in and wedging my body or just bending my knees back without doing anything

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but w/ the actual bar then im not feeling anything pepeWa

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like i know im pulling slack but dude from school said i could probably do a lot more

little adder
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I was able to get 225x8 at one point, but my form was way shoddier and looked nowhere as effortless as you made it look

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But then again, you are ||5 or so pounds heavier than me||

grizzled quail
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i dont think a couple lbs of difference means nearly as much as body proportions, which really impacts ROM for different people/lifts

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that's a big reason i pull sumo actually, feels so right as opposed to conventional

copper tundra
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sumo made my groin super achy too but i just got used to the rom

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my favorite lift changes based on whatever's performing good 😭

copper tundra
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borderline scared getting under the bar ☠️

muted agate
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"And when you're ready you can slowly let go and move your hands to the ground" THUD

little adder
flat sleet
little adder
# flat sleet

Chuu is undoubtedly gonna deadlift 500 kg and use that superior posterior chain to break Usain Bolt’s 100m record within the next two years 😤

thin thicket
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the bar heavy tho fr

spark valve
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Here is the new walking challenge

full gazelle
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I've joined few of these but I really don't see the point

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ok you are rank 143,876 at walking congrats

muted agate
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doing cardio after a leg day is ... fun

little adder
eager sedge
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havent ate the best today

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eating kfc ruined it

mighty robin
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eating food that you haven't had in a long time every once in a while won't affect you dw about it

flat sleet
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Bouta spend 4 weeks in Japan so y'all can eat my dust in a walking challenge

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I read tourists walk 20-28k steps a day

full gazelle
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can confirm my daily steps record is still a day from 2019 when i was tourist in LA (about 25k steps)

eager sedge
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and eating fried food makes my stomach bloat a lot

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i need a detox feelsyeojin

mighty robin
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there are periods of days when you just feel like doing that, i am in one of those periods as well, just slowly try to reduce fried food again from your diet if you feel like it's bloating you, preferably eat them during the day rather evening, i think that will help you better as i am not a fan of detox diets tbh

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cause personally it's when i eat in the evening stuff like kfc that my stomach doesn't feel good after, but I also have a sensitive stomach so there is that

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can try switching at first to homemade fried food, good time to try some fun new recipes choerrycute

eager sedge
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yeah, i guess

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thanks

little adder
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Oh wait

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That was actually probably when I was a tourist in China lol

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Yeah that day was the day we went to a museum and then went to the pearl market afterwards

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And a mall too?

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I dunno

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Lots of walking

little adder
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Tomorrow is leg day and I wanna target my hamstrings in particular

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I’m thinking single leg RDLs hyunface

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Do like 3 sets of 8 with 40s in each hand

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And then pair that with Bulgarian split squats to get the quads hyunface

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Oh my frickin gosh

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I am gonna die tomorrow

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Feel free to give more suggestions on how I should create more pain

grizzled quail
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i was doing rows on a machine earlier today, and someone asked me if they could work in

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ofc i said yes, then they DOUBLED MY WEIGHT (80 lbs -> 160 lbs)... ||and did it with 1 hand||