#Misc Chat

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blazing depot
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The funny part is, it's apparently an AI "artist" who faked that letter with AI to farm attention

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Here's hope he gets attention from Ghibli's actual legal team

half heath
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I like seeing legal action but it should be against the people who are providing the tool shouldn't it?

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or is that guy the one who created it?

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Ahh okay that's good to know

half heath
trim flicker
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all cringe

fossil basin
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Yep, it is not exactly the most stupid idea to invade Greenland, it is more a combination of outlandish and just horrible

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Trump wants to be the Fallout president i guess

hoary charm
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it is rather stupid considering it's under nato protection

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and there's a US base already there

blazing depot
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And, again, Dk and Greenland are not even against the US expanding that

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Yet anyway

fossil basin
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Yeah feel like if it was just about bases they'd let the US

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It seems more about annexation

fossil basin
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But if you are an order that wants to commit itself to the world's end, blatant annexation is more a reasonable decision

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Kinda reminds me of Mormons and their "end times"

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Especially with the ruby franke case, the parents almost were moving to Arizona to final step, kill their children for "their salvation" (the children are rescued, thankfully, no one is dead)

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But it does remind me of a similar self-destruction

eager parrot
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I've been watching a lot of "analysis" about the greenland nonsense both from the danish side and the american side

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and it seems to be more focused about the maritime boundaries that "owning" greenland grants Denmark currently.

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America wants that.

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The land's resources are also a factor but secondary to the maritime borders.

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Also letting people expand bases on your land doesn't seem like the best idea with the way US has been behaving

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All the european nations currently allowing that probably will want to reconsider that if the US continues on this trajectory.

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Look at how granting Russia a base in Crimea turned out for Ukraine.

keen nest
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holy shit I was talking to someone about how these yeji resale tickets at LG were like 800k according to these chinese fans i was talking to. I'm thinking like "damn $680 that's crazy"

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won is in the fucking toilet right now my god

hoary charm
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US expands their expansionism -> russia objects because muh spheres of influence -> russia uses this to justify their expansion

dreamy ledge
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small note: all US bases overseas are owned by the host nation and are still their property. so if they wanted, a nation can kick us out. one of the main reasons why most nations (usually) don't mind us expanding is the jobs it brings to the surrounding areas.

been wondering if we start getting kicked out, which would be big news especially out of the bigger bases the US have been stationed for a long time

charred fulcrum
dreamy ledge
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go get them albums

charred fulcrum
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I don't have a point of reference

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What's 1000KRW in a 7E can get you?

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Can it get me 3 onigiris?

keen nest
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yep do it

dreamy ledge
blazing depot
# dreamy ledge go get them albums

See, the issue there is, the album price is and has never been the issue, the shipping and customs is and it will not really get cheaper due to this

dreamy ledge
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I meant as him getting his band there on a trip so he can get the albums personally. I know shipping+customs cost an arm and a leg.

fossil basin
half heath
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Americans I wanna know how your health care really is. Like in your entire life how has the way healthcare is paid for affect you?

Idk if i bought into some propaganda or what cause I've always only heard bad things about it.

Someone told me healthcare is actually free for ppl who make less that 150,000 a year. They just need to get their bill and get it paid for by medicare. This is from someone whose father is a recent immigrant and had a 3 month stay at a hospital. He said it was all covered after applying.

The way it sounds doesn't seem so bad. The only real problem seems to be corruption from insurance companies maybe not always covering things. But my question is if a recent elderly immigrant is covered so fully, what does it take to be denied.

It's just an anecdote and I haven't done a lot of research but I wonder if I fell for some anti American propaganda ages ago or is it reality

shadow elbow
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well I have healthcare through my work but I can tell you I probably wouldn't go to a hospital unless my limbs are falling off

half heath
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Why is that? What's are your concerns?

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or is it like a i just don't want to go

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and without employer insurance what happens?

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I've always heard about medical debt being a huge issue

blazing depot
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You go into deep, deep debt. Copay is a bitch from what I've read. The system is from my understanding "You always pay X amount and the insurance only covers anything going past that amount" (and only really when they feel like it, Americans cheered the insurance CEO shooter on for a reason)

shadow elbow
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yeah even with insurance you can never really rest assured that the specific type of care you need will be completely or partially covered

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if I had like some specific issue maybe I'd be more familiar with what my insurance will cover but it's far easier for me to just not deal with it since I am in good health

half heath
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Yea see ive heard all that and I've had the same ideas. But this person really made it seem like free healthcare with an extra step

shadow elbow
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any for my job I need to stay in good health so I can't just go to the hospital and not explain why to my employer

blazing depot
marsh oracle
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First major point being that medicare is for seniors

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Like retirement age seniors

half heath
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Okay see that's a great point, that's on me for not doing the research. I'm like fresh off a discussion from this person

blazing depot
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Was that person an American btw

half heath
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Also the person i was talking to wasn't a bad faith person so I didn't really believe they'd lie. I do think they get news from a completely different source than I do

half heath
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they immigrated later than him and they're mostly living well. He's living even better but he has serious gripes with some of Canadas social programs cause he believes they are taxing the middle class too much

blazing depot
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Cause I've ofen had the experience that talking about the BIG TOPICS like health care and gun laws can be very much enfuriating cause MURRICA can do no wrong vivikek

marsh oracle
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Extrapolating one persons experience to the entire healthcare system just isnt gonna work no matter the experience

half heath
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Yea that's true I just had a moment where I really wondered if everything I knew about the topic was misguided

marsh oracle
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Like theres also medicaid for non seniors with low income but then some states passed an extension as part of the aca (aka based blue states) which expanded it to more people but others (red states) never did cause obamacare is evil

half heath
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Yea his family lives in New Jersey

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I guess he's not aware of something like that.

marsh oracle
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Then you have the whole thing where you lose healthcare coverage when you lose your job so you become much more reliant on your employer

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Just a lot of different aspects

half heath
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he lwk thinks Trump is actually making good moves for USs economy and it was slightly convincing

marsh oracle
half heath
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lol let me try to type out his argument

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I was debating him for a while but he works in an executive position so he has a perspective that values corporate interests a lot more

hoary charm
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nothing says good moves like crashing the economy

marsh oracle
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Every country should be an autarky BatChest

half heath
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Like according to him he believes the Tarrifs by Trump on Canada are actually retaliatory because of stuff like Carbon Tax and higher electricity costs that manufacturers have to pay in Canada. And that the Trump admin would rather have American businesses leave Canada and return to US if the costs aren't as profitable as before.

marsh oracle
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Shouldnt he love those taxes because it would push american manufacturing out of canada and back into the us?

half heath
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Instead of helping the Canadian economy cause so much of our economy is dependent on manufacturing at a lower cost and selling at a higher price to america. Tarrifs supposedly make the costs closer to each other and incentize Businesses to keep their manufacturing in the US. Similarly he is doing it to other key countries where they outsource a lot.

marsh oracle
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Like if you have a plant in canada obviously youre gonna have to adhere to the rules there, if those rules make the country unattractive for businesses then that seems like thats that country's problem

half heath
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Exactly that's his argument. It's kinda ignoring the historic partnership but if you only care about America it almost sounds reasonable. Except for the increased cost to consumers

marsh oracle
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Theres some merits to using tariffs to keep production of some specific good in the country so you arent overly reliant on other countries (thats basically what the whole point of the Chips act was, get semiconductor manufacturing into the us because you cant keep relying on Taiwan)

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The obvious problem here is that trump a) fundamentally still does not understand how a tariff works b) is applying tariffs on all goods instead of specific ones and c) constantly flip flops on his tariff positions so economic long term planning for companies becomes impossible

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Also still ignores the fact that doing this will inevitavly drive prices up in the us

hoary charm
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also the justification for it was predicated on canada letting in fent and the trade "deficit"

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which basically wasnt true at all lol

half heath
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He brought up the fent thing, that was the part I really facepalmed

marsh oracle
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Like the "yes i will pay 100% extra for american goods" pivot from the crazy maga crowd is already in progress but thats also already 5 steps removed from his campaign promise of lowering prices

blazing depot
marsh oracle
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The us can become an autarky if it really wants but then you also get all the shit jobs back that you outsourced to other countries

blazing depot
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Or to use his actual quote, he "couldn't care less"

marsh oracle
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The better solution is getting people impacted by outsourcing into other (probably better paying) jobs instead of chasing the dream of american manufacturing revival for another 30 years

blazing depot
marsh oracle
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Theres a reason the gdp per capita in the us is so high and it isnt the coal mining and manufacturing jobs

blazing depot
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better work in a tesla factory or on a field

half heath
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Idk this person doesn't really seem to have the same priorities as an average person.

Like he really wants to vote Conservative in Canada cause he likes PPs idea of fracking our oil reserves and selling to US opposed to the Liberals idea of building a pipeline.

He is aware of the environmental risks but doesn't seem to care

marsh oracle
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Have you considered that theyve simply drank the kool aid

half heath
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A little bit yea

marsh oracle
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Seems like standard conservative media diet stuff

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And ive yet to discover how to get somebody out of that without an insane time investment and mental energy

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Keeping up with all the bullshit is exhausting lol

half heath
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they do see themselves as a more fiscal conservative type. They don't say it but the economy and their wallet is their biggest concern

marsh oracle
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Yet to see a non cringe fiscal conservative

half heath
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Tbh i slightly respect this person for their talents in other things so I almost started getting convinced on some points.

marsh oracle
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Just look at germanys conervative party OMEGALUL

blazing depot
half heath
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Regardless i don't think any of our current options for election are great so there's really no middle ground between us

blazing depot
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That clip of Merz at McDonalds haunts me

half heath
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we did just agree that both kinda suck despite both of leaning the opposite sucky candidate

marsh oracle
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Carney is obviously more competent but also seems like another round of the "liberal guy cant fix everything immediately so everybody gets more xenophobic" cycle of elections

marsh oracle
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But hey we seem to have discovered how to reset that cycle at least a little

half heath
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I just don't trust ppl like PP especially with Trump

hoary charm
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at this point you're probably more at the whim of how much trump pisses off the average canadian

marsh oracle
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One western country just has to elect the fascist and it shocks every other country back into reality for a bit

blazing depot
half heath
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haha that is actually something that ended up being bittersweet.

toxic spoke
marsh oracle
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I knew pp was a dumbfuck when he talked about the fucking gold standard on that Podcast with jordan peterson, the lobster overlord

half heath
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man its crazy cause I'm kinda experiencing a watered down version of when ppl started realizing some of their family and friends are MAGA

marsh oracle
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Cant believe we went through the biggest supply shock inflation in decades with covid and you still have people doing gold standard memes

half heath
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My brother always been kinda dumb and he's completely into all the conservative and right wing content. But now he voices it more cause he feels informed

marsh oracle
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Yea its Despair

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My dads long long long time friend completely fell for all the bullshit here and i can tell it strains their relationship

blazing depot
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Watching joe Rogan podcasts isn't beimngh informed, you should tell him that

half heath
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like his argument against Carney was just when he talks he sounds like he doesn't know anything

marsh oracle
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And i occasionally have to ward off some dumb shit hes been sent

toxic spoke
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Oh so Carney is currently the guy but they called for an election?

marsh oracle
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Ye

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Carney replaced trudeau

blazing depot
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They had to this year, ye

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And rn with the Canadians being super mad was kinda a good moment

marsh oracle
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Dude ran the bank of canada for a bit so kinda ideal for a trade war lol

half heath
half heath
marsh oracle
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Well this might be shocking news but no countries economy has been great

hoary charm
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wrong, many are saying trump has the greatest economy, maybe ever

blazing depot
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All these wars and pandemics and corresponding energy and oil/gas crises kinda make good economy impossible

marsh oracle
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Even if your media diet isnt mega poisoned by being on any social media platform, researching this shit takes time

half heath
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It does feel impossible

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like there is so much I can't speak on without more research

marsh oracle
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Like i looked into how useful nuclear energy will really be in future energy grids and that shit is just infinitely complex. Theres a reason people go to unis for these things

half heath
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while some ppl are good with accepting/parroting whatever they hear

marsh oracle
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But then you expect people with no prior knowledge to have an opinion on that and base their vote on it

half heath
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My brother watches asmongold all day these days

hoary charm
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epic

marsh oracle
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Ok well asmongold really is a case of zero empathy

hoary charm
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does he also have gum/teeth bleeding and wipe it on his wall

half heath
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oliviaha idek i just kinda dissociate

blazing depot
half heath
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like he used to be a rogan viewer too

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but tbh sometimes there are some topics that feel overblown by even left biased sources

marsh oracle
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Dont get me wrong, seeing another markus lanz talk show will make me rip out my eye balls but the news at least are decent

blazing depot
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asmon is... yeah. Like, bro actually has some decent insights into certain things, but completely lacks empathy and anything remotely political he does (including all the DEI/gender wars bs) is just ashuhuarun

marsh oracle
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The solution isnt reading more bullshit from every side, the solution is engaging your brain wrinkles and thinking about what youre reading

half heath
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yea i was gonna say I'm really struggling sometimes wondering what's actually a priority to be concerned about cause when you touch grass so much seems needlessly talked about

blazing depot
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Die Welt pretending they're a real newspaper is always fun

marsh oracle
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I lowkey had a bit of hope for asmon when he got banned for the gaza comments and he himself said he kinda hated the person he was

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But i guess it wasnt a core enough insight to change

hoary charm
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was kinda funny seeing him defend playing AC shadows while his chat was egging him on to trash it

half heath
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sponsor money hit i guess

hoary charm
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no ubi would never sponsor him

half heath
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but does he even need money

marsh oracle
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I think some part of himself knows his audience is terrible and also having a terrible influence on him

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But he cant get himself out

half heath
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feels like he does it for the love of the game

blazing depot
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And yes, Asmon's audience is actually far worse than he is

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Never look at comments in his chat or on his yt vids

half heath
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😮‍💨

ocean vigil
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🤦‍♂️

blazing depot
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Yeah, France ain't happy

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That's not the only France win though

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She is effective from now on barred from being elected for any political position

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And while BBC says "could", it's really more of a "will" miss the 2027 election cause that ban will remain in effect even if she appeals

lime spire
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This worldpete

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Gotta get out

blazing depot
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Hey now, this Le Pen news is a good thing

fossil basin
lime spire
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I just meant in general

last eagle
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aight this is actually a big w

valid magnet
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now that one guy can be in peace

blazing depot
trim flicker
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nah this was posted yesterday

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same studio also bought a different looney tunes movie that got released last year

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or will be released this year?

last eagle
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The Day the Earth Blow Up

eager parrot
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yeah looks real

marsh oracle
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Oopsie daisy

eager parrot
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"Trump lawyers" is quite the term for government attorneys

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but yeah the error rate has been unreasonably high with the detainments and deportations

marsh oracle
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I like all the maga idiots unironically posting shit like "only innocent people should get due process, why do we let criminals abuse the legal system"

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Room temperature iq

ruby helm
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The thing there is also Trump could send one message to the El Salvador administration building that prison for him and they would in fact send that guy back to america

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so him saying "they have no ability to bring him back now" isnt true

marsh oracle
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Well its not about trump being able to do it

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Theyre saying the court doesnt have jurisdiction anymore

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So if you just ship them all out fast enough, they cant do anything GalaxyBrain

blazing depot
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Read: they don't actually care

blazing depot
charred fulcrum
trim flicker
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Celsius would be the lower number

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so that one

marsh oracle
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Democrats should do a filibuster subathon

marsh oracle
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Everything

blazing depot
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Fair

shadow elbow
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it's like a rescene livestream

livid frigate
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lol very funny Supreme Court election result here

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57% to 42% is so funny

livid frigate
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should be giannis

near jetty
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I wrote him in for one of the 1 person races

last eagle
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huh

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the cheater won?

hoary charm
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did you even watch the video

last eagle
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i did watch

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but yea it's oof

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especially the Apollo Legends part

blazing depot
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RIP feelsyeojin

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As per usual, fuck cancer.

dreamy ledge
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damn, hasalute

hoary charm
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everyone having fun counting down the hours until trump crashes the economy?

marsh oracle
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Oh is today the big day?

blazing depot
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LIBERATION DAY

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It has a name, you know

ocean vigil
blazing depot
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"We want you to spend more money on weapons!"
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"NOT THOSE WEAPONS!"

supple dragon
last eagle
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Abusing to take aim to Trump

hoary charm
marsh oracle
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Turns out when you disable military equipment you sold, others want to buy it a lot less

marsh oracle
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Growth company growing -15% MonkaSteer

ocean vigil
trim flicker
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that'll stop it

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drug dealers had it too easy

hoary charm
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making drugs legal just so he can tariff the shit out of it all

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imagine

unborn echo
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visionary

dire canopy
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I think bigger problem is drugs from usa to canada than the other way around

trim flicker
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canada should just tax those drugs

marsh oracle
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This makes total sense considering he thinks canada would pay those tariffs

fossil basin
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Quoting Azealia Banks (@azealiaslacewig)

Everybody really be out in the world talking shit about America like we really can’t do whatever we want. Macron wants the statue of liberty back but the US+UK should just invade Congo , Haiti and the DRC and throw them and China out , switch the currency to the USD, do big mineral deals there and send US prison labor to update and expand the infrastructure. . . This Cold War era bs with Russia is fucking tired. Who even cares what happens to Europe like really…
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︀︀ USA needs Africa to really win economically and there’s no point in keep pussy footing around .
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︀︀And to get Africa France just has to be destroyed totally and suddenly without warning

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fossil basin
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https://fxtwitter.com/politico/status/1907455852123959760?t=3GwJpYBkjBLt-V87c9R2UA&s=19

Seems like Elon's 'political' role will be reduced (hopefully)

EXCLUSIVE: Trump has told his inner circle, including members of his Cabinet, that Elon Musk will soon be stepping back from his current role as governing partner, ubiquitous cheerleader and Washington hatchet man.
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︀︀Read @rachaelmbade's full scoop: politi.co/3DT2LAm

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ocean vigil
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bruh

blazing depot
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Subtle

proud tulip
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what the FUCK

marsh oracle
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I thought maybe he used that quote as a warning

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Guess not

ocean vigil
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looks like he was likening biden's administration to nazi germany

marsh oracle
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Why are these people all equally stupid

ocean vigil
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just another case of every accusation is a confession

marsh oracle
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Im sure we can find quotes of him criticizing trump for deporting people to gitmo without a day in court tho

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Honestly the travel warnings so far arent enough

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Theres a non zero chance now you just get sent to some labor camp for no reason in the us

ocean vigil
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there was fun warning from us embassy here to czech people thinking of traveling to usa

marsh oracle
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Lol

ocean vigil
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basically that there will be very thorough securite checks to ensure the security of us citizens

marsh oracle
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The security check

proud tulip
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Idk if you'll all know the tagline Jim'll fix it but I'm sure you've heard of Jimmy Saville 😬

blazing depot
toxic spoke
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i'm crying cambodia at 97%

marsh oracle
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Haiyundae

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World index btw

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Doing this after market close in the us is so much less interesting

hoary charm
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is that the full list?

ocean vigil
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feeling left out?

hoary charm
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lol yea was wondering if we'd avoided it

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australia being on 10% makes me think we'll get that too

ocean vigil
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he probably does not realize it's not the same country

marsh oracle
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trump only uses maps without new zealand

hoary charm
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real

ocean vigil
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dude was rambling about groceries again

hoary charm
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wait there's a baseline 10% on everything?

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this list is just on top of that?

fossil basin
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From every country

hoary charm
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lol

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lmao even

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stable genius at work

ocean vigil
fossil basin
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They have imported their economists from turkey i see, whom had just made foreign shopping practically illegal/impossible to more promp up their "importer companies/sites"

marsh oracle
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would hate to be some boomer with all their money invested in a retirement account now

hoary charm
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sama sucks up to trump for massive data center investment
trump puts 25% tariff on computer related imports
lol

marsh oracle
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Didnt suck hard enough

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oh and just in case anybody thinks "oh theyre only doing half of the tariffs each country is putting on the us", those numbers are just pulled straight from trumps ass

fossil basin
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It just seems like Trump or Elon does not understand economics

supple dragon
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Omo can I get the discount

ocean vigil
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you didn't listen to him

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everyone got a discount

supple dragon
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Ahaaaa

fossil basin
toxic spoke
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One big point amid all the headlines: I was texting with press secretary Karoline Leavitt during the event and she confirms that the 34 percent tariff on China is ON TOP of the previous 20 percent. So that means the rate on China will be *54* percent when these tariffs take effect.

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ocean vigil
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weren't the 20 also on top of something?

marsh oracle
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probably on top of whatever tariffs they had on individual products

hoary charm
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its times like this where i wish i had a trading account setup and the balls for puts

blazing depot
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With options like Elon and Bezos for TikTok ownership China suddenly doesn't seem as bad

hoary charm
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6% is bad but ngl i did kind of expect more

marsh oracle
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After market and it doesnt look like thats the lowest its going

hoary charm
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true

hoary charm
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can't make this shit up

marsh oracle
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Israel not on the board, i am noticing

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Just asking questions you know?

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Oh nevermind its there he just skipped it in the speech

hoary charm
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there's no russia or NK

marsh oracle
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Somehow even dumber

hoary charm
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he's ending the de minimis exception too

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fucking hell he's actually just gonna nose dive the economy

marsh oracle
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Some of these smaller countries will be even more fucked by this though

hoary charm
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vietnam is cooked

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a lot of companies moved out of china to vietnam and they have huge exports to the US

toxic spoke
hoary charm
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kinda want to be up for market open but i need to up early tomorrow

marsh oracle
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The stuff i left in my retirement account will just have to weather the storm

hoary charm
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mines been slipping the last couple weeks

marsh oracle
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See you in 40 years, money

hoary charm
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probably should have swapped it to a conservative fund when trump got in

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instead of staying in growth

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oh well

marsh oracle
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I always just put everything in a world Index so its gonna rebalance eventually anyway

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But yea if youre close to retirement this is really not what you wanna see

dreamy ledge
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#kpop-chat-2 message
I never knew instead of trying to avoid dystopia, there would be people who would accelerate it at light speed.

with the dumbest of brains

fossil basin
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Not blaming you or anything, more so telling that those people do exist

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We have a saying in Turkish, it basically amounts to "bad days are behind us, now worse days are awaiting us"

hoary charm
toxic spoke
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The four Republicans who voted with Democrats were: Sens. Rand Paul (Kentucky), who cosponsored the resolution, Susan Collins (Maine), Mitch McConnell (Kentucky) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska).

hoary charm
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That explains why trump singled out those four in a tweet

blazing depot
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Collins and Murkowski, the "Maybe some Republicans are reasonable, right? Riiiiiight? jk, lol" senators

hoary charm
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No we literally calculated tariff and non tariff barriers.
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︀︀ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations

Quoting James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki)

Just figured out where these fake tariff rates come from. They didn't actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country's exports to us.
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︀︀So we have a $17.9 billion trade deficit with Indonesia. Its exports to us are $28 billion. $17.9/$28 = 64%, which Trump claims is the tariff rate Indonesia charges us. What extraordinary nonsense this is.

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ocean vigil
ocean vigil
ocean vigil
last eagle
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that's dumb

ocean vigil
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Kasie: All three U.S. Stock indexes hemorrhaging at the closing bell just moments ago. The Dow losing nearly 4% of its total value, down more than 1600 points. The NASDAQ down nearly 6%, the S&P plunging nearly 5%. Wall Street, responding to the unexpected scope and severity of Trump’s sweeping tariffs

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so much winning

proud tulip
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thanks obama

half heath
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So what exactly is expected to happen? Every other time ive seen the stock market dip even a little all the financial news ppl raise alarms. Most likely a recession right? And if that is the case at what point do even the oligarchs and corporations start to go against the admins for messing up their money?

Like what is the most generous prediction for this? Is it just going to be reversed in a month or 2?

marsh oracle
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This is where we find out if the deep state is real

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If it is, trump is dead in 2 months. If its not (which seems the more likely outcome), everybody will have to hope that some republican senators and members of the house start doing their job again

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If they also dont, inflation spikes very high in america, cost of living goes up, people can afford less and less

half heath
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And what are the chances that manufacturing does return to US? Isn't that the ultimate goal of these tarrifs?

ocean vigil
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depends on the type of goods

marsh oracle
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Theres a chance businesses just sit this out and wait for the next democrat

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Some of it probably will come back but that itself will also cause higher prices

ocean vigil
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can you imagine american citizens lining up to replace the manufactiring of cheap clothes and shoes?

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moving that to the US would cost a lot more than just eating the tarrifs

marsh oracle
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And some of these jobs are just too shit for anybody to want to do them yea

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Nobody goes "man i always wanted to be a coal miner, i love permanently fucking up my lungs"

ocean vigil
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hell, even the people they are kicking out would not want to do most of that shit

marsh oracle
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Another thing yea

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US is already close to full employment

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Where are they getting the people for this

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Tldr its a fucking mess and we can really only hope the other countries figure out how to get through it the best way possible

proud tulip
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I feel like this could play out very differently to his first term, where the trust will be broken long term with other nations and they start to just look how to carry on without the need for the US

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the feeling of the first term was very much "meh 4 years and it'll be over" but now it's back, and idk if the world will want to risk having to do this again in 8 years time

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I hope that's the way things start to move anyway, but of course its much more complicated

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every day Russia and China are smiling more though

marsh oracle
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Yea you can see it happening already

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China/korea/Japan moving closer, canada and the eu as well

half heath
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Yea that seems to be where people want things to go

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Yea I agree though none of this makes sense

blazing depot
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And that last time only had a 6% impact

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Not 20

half heath
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Oh yea I did hear about that

blazing depot
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Not to be a doomer, but you know. Amazing stuff.

half heath
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every 100 years or so someone who doesn't know history tries it and leads to depression

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Really the only thing that makes it makes sense is Russia won the cold war and Trump is trying to lower Americas position

hoary charm
half heath
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For sure which means the third term stuff is a serious concern

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God remember that person i told you guys about the other day? He must feel really stupid right now. I'm curious how he'll spin it

blazing depot
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I mean, that dude is just gonna go with the trump reasoning

marsh oracle
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You need self awareness to feel stupid

blazing depot
hoary charm
blazing depot
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For reference

marsh oracle
half heath
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Idk he did say he'd vote Carney after his company got an email thst their carbon surcharge would be removed soon.

ocean vigil
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he is the kind of person that would operate on someone with a dynamite

half heath
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can't be sick if dead

ocean vigil
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the penguins are gonna fold every minute now

half heath
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genius

half heath
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what are the chances that some of these tarrifs are accepted by some countries btw?

toxic spoke
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for the record I don't think schmali should be worried about anything but one of the main headlines was about a korean-american student who ICE detained #loona-chat message

ocean vigil
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you had vietnam and israel drop their tarrifs, look how it worked out for them

blazing depot
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Sidenote

hoary charm
marsh oracle
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Oh i dont think us tours would stop because idols are getting shipped to gitmo

blazing depot
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Bro crashes the economy and then peaces out to a Saudi funded golf tournament

marsh oracle
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But they do still need us visas and just a general crowd willing to spend money

ocean vigil
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more winning mate

blazing depot
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Right, the definitely legit tournament wins at his own golf course

hoary charm
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more oce pls @kpopindustry

toxic spoke
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kpop tours bled the US dry into recession

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fact checked by american patriots

hoary charm
blazing depot
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Just gotta stop with the DEI

ruby helm
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If they start printing albums in the US, they cut out the huge chunk of money that big shipping get out of it

blazing depot
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But big shipping are mostly US companies

hoary charm
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a good amount of US versions are already printed in the US pretty sure

hoary charm
blazing depot
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Sounds legit

livid frigate
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Manufacturing overseas is way cheaper even with the tariffs

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Industry will not return to the U.S.

half heath
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right so does that mean some companies will keep producing and sell to other countries? Cause if they keep producing and sell to US it would mean their tarrif is working right?

marsh oracle
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You mean keep producing outside of the us?

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Problem there is that trump somehow claims to use tariffs to transform the us into an autarky but also at the same time tariffs will be the new funding source for the federal government

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2 goals that work against each other so the tariffs kind of by definition cant work

half heath
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right makes sense that it doesn't

blazing depot
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사안의 중대성과 국민적 관심을 고려해 헌법재판소는 내일 탄핵심판 선고 전체를 생중계합니다. 사상 6번째 생중계인데요. 현장에서 직접 선고를 볼 수 있는 일반 방청에는 9만 6천여명이 몰려 역대 최고 경쟁률을 보였습니다. 생중계 진행을 위해 헌재 대심판정...

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It's time

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Rare KR courts win

last eagle
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yep

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Freedom as the empire is burnt to the ground

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the new (hopefully brighter) era will begin

blazing depot
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This isn't a Star Wars movie, bro

trim flicker
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its korea I don't expect things to get much better

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but goodbye yoon

hoary charm
eager parrot
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I'm okay with the rich paying their fair share. This is still far less than most other countries.

blazing depot
ruby helm
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Add some extra provisions in the bill such as that non citizens are no longer considered human, blame the democrats for voting down a bill to tax the rich

keen nest
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lmao my friend was telling me about like avoiding the north side of seoul today and he's in america. Didn't even know why. Started telling me it's about the president

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i'm like huh

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was literally asking a friend here like didn't this dude get impeached because I saw him on the giant monitor next to mcountdown from YTN

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didn't know this dude was going on trial here on april 4th. I guess several train stations if not all of them were shut down today because of it

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didn't realize he was removed from office and was just afk in jail

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or basically equivalent of

blazing depot
keen nest
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he wasn't removed when I was here

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I don't think he had power stripped from him while I was here idk I could be wrong about that

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that being said

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worth noting that I didn't know martial law was even going on until people in america were asking me if I was okay

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but yeah iirc the protests were advocating for his removal at the time and then he was removed at a later date to which I started seeing those articles about how he was like turtling in his residence with military and lawyers lmao

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my question is who has even been running the country since then KEKW because now i'm reading they're going to have a new election

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yep never heard of this guy until just now

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Oh he was.... also... impeached... and then reinstated

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I asked one of my friends that lives here and he said he didn't even know this trial was going on today

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think people outside of korea know more about the news going on here oliviakek

blazing depot
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Seems more like your Kpop circle friends are preoccupied with that and a bad sample size vivikek

keen nest
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all my kpoop friends are weebs now kekwsad

blazing depot
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What is the world is going on with his hair btw

keen nest
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yep receding hairline

trim flicker
marsh oracle
last eagle
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yep

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If anything, blame those supporters

blazing depot
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Nintendo fanbois gonna end Trump, just watch

proud tulip
dire canopy
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^ scalper POV

trim flicker
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goodbye forever us economy

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34% retaliatory tariff from china too rip

shadow elbow
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I'd like to see trump tariff these

trim flicker
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these what

shadow elbow
trim flicker
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For today's Democratic Daily Download: meet @RepDeluzio from Western PA.
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︀︀
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i liked how they tried to say the tarrifs are working by quoting march numbers

shadow elbow
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is this guy deluzio

trim flicker
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a moderate voice

marsh oracle
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If theres one thing the last 8 years have taught is, its that making very easy topics more complicated is the winning strategy

trim flicker
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its so fucked and out of touch like dude yeah we see the economy is collapsing we don't need some guy to be like "The way this is being done is an horrendous mess, but we CAN make it right, with the right policies"

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no one cares no one will listen to this and feel motivated to vote for them

blazing depot
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"We have to be the sane, normal ones, not cause any scenes, people will notice eventually :)"

trim flicker
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no one really likes the dems and for good reason

blazing depot
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They really need someone like Michelle Obama who actually knows how to move people and pointedly skewer these dipshits with callouts

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Truly unfortunate she has no interest in it

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Damn, so much winning

half heath
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In a crazy world the sane person is the weirdest one

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then again are we really sane or just not willing to do what's necessary

half heath
marsh oracle
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just gotta throw enough money at the corporations i suppose

hoary charm
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nintendo pausing preorders cause of vietnam tariffs is very funny

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oil prices dropping, jpm predicting a recession

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its ogre

marsh oracle
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Oil prices dropping

hoary charm
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rightoids: god emperor said he would lower petrol prices and he did!!!

half heath
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ngl getting oil under 1.30 last night felt good even though it's not a good sign

marsh oracle
half heath
marsh oracle
hoary charm
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still another 3.5 years of this

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epic

eager parrot
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that's optimistic of you

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even if he goes away, somebody worse than him who grew up on this maga stuff might take over

hoary charm
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probably depends on how the midterms go

eager parrot
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what he's doing right now

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at the pace that he and his people are doing it

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will take decades to reverse if ever

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he's setting an irreversible new equilibrium

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the rest of the world really need to start considering that waiting the US out for the next administration is not feasible anymore

hoary charm
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not enough time to accumulate generational wealth before trump crashes everything and agi takes our jobs

eager parrot
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well then I hope the competency crisis takes over and everything collapses before AGI is achieved

trim flicker
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chinese century 🇨🇳

hoary charm
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i will simply outsource my life decisions to my good friend claude

eager parrot
half heath
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what do you mean

eager parrot
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China is only like 10 years behind South Korea when it comes to new offspring being produced

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they have a lot of people, but all those people are not producing enough children, and the old people are living on for too long

half heath
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oh really never considered that since they had to actually reduce birth rates in the past

eager parrot
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it's funny isn't it

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for half a century in the 20th century people kept going on about overpopulation, and now it's the other way around

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only India and parts of Africa and select few smaller countries outside of those areas have replacement level of new children being born

half heath
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you think they won't try to incentive it when it comes to it?

eager parrot
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I think they will start killing off their old people

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and severely limiting women's rights

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when push comes to shove

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and nobody will do anything about it because China

half heath
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or is it like the other Asian countries where work life balance and rigorous education makes people not want to reproduce?

eager parrot
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I am not sure what the factors for China's demographics or economics problems are

half heath
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ngl that's one thing I've always had internal debates about. Like the stereotype of Asian parents and their children. They are abused but in the process they do achieve a lot. Sounds random but I mean like the Chinese government kinda treats its citizens similarly

trim flicker
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things will be fine fr

ruby helm
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You just gotta hope that population collapse hits just at the same moment as enough AI takeover of jobs for the two to just cancel out and everything is fine.

livid frigate
ruby helm
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A more light touch approach would be encouraging people to keep working into their 70s and 80s and say it keeps the mind and body fit and healthy.

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this been posted btw

fossil basin
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yeah just noticed

fossil basin
eager parrot
last eagle
hoary charm
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japan and korea denied that

fossil basin
hoary charm
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chinese media was overplaying it

fossil basin
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i just do not trust posts saying they sourced info from "chinese state media", because you kinda have to specify which source

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"chinese state media" is not a huge monolith

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reuters post which is the closest site i could find that might have been reliable, says it's source is "social media account affiliated with chinese state media", which is a very broad term

hoary charm
fossil basin
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More than likely it is not even chinese media itself overplaying it, but some social media accounts that are clickbaity

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also Reuters do not site CCTV as the source, so this article got that wrong

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I have checked multiple Reuters articles on the matter,neither cited CCTV as a source

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PS: I am deleting my comments, I realized couple stuff I was not initially right about

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so the post itself seems to be posted on Weibo, on an account Yuyuan Tantian

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which, I guess if it is a post on a government-linked social media account, I would not be surprised at all if there was movement made to overplay the impact

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though the non-exaggerated part that all 3 countries seemingly agree, is a speed-up of a China - Japan - South Korea free trade deal looming

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atleast according to statement after meeting of the triad's joint statement

proud tulip
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this comment got me though

hoary charm
near jetty
half heath
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I do wanna say that seemed extreme to me too. My only source of reference for stuff like that is stories of people being locked into their homes during covid by like welding doors to stop spreading.

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That's the type of stuff I could never see being done in other top countries. Not that other countries don't have their own problems

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I also heard that it was effective but idk. A lot of news is hard to tell if it's real or not. Some stuff is said by ccp some stuff is said by western media.

near jetty
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if I was a betting man I would put some money on the Chinese government having a plan (that doesn't include the extermination of old people)

clear tide
fossil basin
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Also Fox/Now Turkey is vastly different from Fox America in political alignment

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Which is interesting

charred fulcrum
fossil basin
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I do not think China are likely to collapse, atleast compared to Russia or the US

dire canopy
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I wonder if this Taylor Swift hoodie is banned in China

fossil basin
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It had been a debacle that the merch "could" have gotten banned, but there were no such action or influence on Chinese authorities to be found

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there seems to have been some censorship involved in several merch-selling sites, and apparently there were some discussions within people associated with her clothing brand, to pull the merchandise off sale, but official announcement of Taylor's side was that they'll be selling 1989 merch everywhere, as it was the year she was born

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Chinese authorities or state department either did not respond or refused to respond to the matter

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there seemt to be issues arising especially from western outlets, but i could not find any sources in terms of the taylor merch being banned

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weibo also had not tagged even the T.S. 1989 tag as sensitive

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hell it was Taylor's first fashion line, and it was exclusive to China

agile waveBOT
dire canopy
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oh so this was 10 years ago I'm a little late then

vital needle
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China is evil and demonic so they ban everything that is good and holy like taylor swift and old people

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A china expert told me that via youtube shorts

dire canopy
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well I was asking because of tiananmen square thingy that happened in 1989 as well

near jetty
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sources tell me china puts dopamine and serotonin blockers in the water so everyone is miserable

charred fulcrum
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I am sorry what exactly happened in 1989 at Tianamen Square on June 4th?

dire canopy
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apparently absolutely nothing

near jetty
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you just earned my updoot fellow redditor!

shadow elbow
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thanks for the gold

near jetty
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kind stranger

fossil basin
fossil basin
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basically i think it is more than reasonable to ask

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so that people would not be led to think that a China-exclusive sweater/sweatshirt is banned in China

livid frigate
charred fulcrum
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So you're saying if I ingest Colgate I am gonna be miserable?

livid frigate
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Yes

near jetty
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flouride starts with an f and so does female

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have they been feminzing us?

fossil basin
marsh oracle
livid frigate
near jetty
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that explains the strong urge of getting a strawberry banana smoothie i had today

livid frigate
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A very feminine drink I might add

near jetty
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its pink a very womanly color

livid frigate
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Yep

half heath
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wait hold up

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I drink those smoothies too babychoerry

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Lol but satire aside, first time I'm hearing about those theories. It's kinda interesting

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oddly enough the first study I've seen was based on Chinese farmers

fossil basin
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from NYU's statements in 2025, the flouride studies mentioned were based upon 1.5mgs per liter water, which would be more than twice as much of 0.7mg/L standard in the US tap water

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"Here in the US, Juneau, Alaska discontinued fluoride in 2007 and research revealed that cavity-related dental procedures subsequently increased by nearly 50 percent in children and adolescents.

In Canada, Calgary removed fluoride in 2011 and researchers subsequently found that children had more tooth decay compared to Edmonton, which maintained fluoridation. Calgary is currently in the process of reintroducing fluoride in its water. In the Canadian city of Windsor, across the river from Detroit, fluoride was removed in 2013 but the city council also voted to reintroduce it in 2018 after seeing increased rates of emergency dental care in children. important for gum/teeth health"

half heath
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yea the benefits do seem to outweigh the issues at higher dosages

ocean vigil
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what about the ethical issues about dissolving floridians in a water

marsh oracle
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Whats the issue?

ocean vigil
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you're ruining the water

fossil basin
dreamy ledge
valid magnet
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At least Jennifer Coolidge is always a blast

last eagle
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lol

toxic spoke
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food channel i like getting cooked for doing a claude ai sponsored video

hoary charm
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my junior intern friend claude is just trying to make a living man

valid magnet
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Stop Claude, creativity is dying and the world is burning

blazing depot
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lmao

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Truly fried brains

ruby helm
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Gangs can move to smuggling nintendo switches to avoid the tariffs

fossil basin
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I mean it often times had been a political thing, problem is that people for some reason equate political with "forbidden to discuss/taboo"

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Even the most seemingly unrelated things like "picture of fat pikachu" is political in a way

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Especially now with turkish protests kickstarting giant pikachu in rallies and tv stations for some reason villainifying the pokemon

eager parrot
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everything can be political if you want it to be

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and 'taking politics out of it' is also stupid when it comes to obviously politically-flavored subject matter

blazing depot
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The context here is important. No, Nintendo didn't make it political by reacting to a 46% price hike put on them.

eager parrot
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Japanese company whose business is directly impacted by Trump tariffs choosing not to export their new game device into the US is both good business and is also a political statement.

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their new game pricing aside, Nintendo at least tries to price their devices at an accessible level, usually anyway.

ruby helm
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I think they aren't even choosing not to export it, just delaying while they wait and see if there will be a 180 on the tariffs a few weeks later or not

eager parrot
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most of the world is in that mode right now I suspect

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but I think they really need to move on without the US now, otherwise this flipflopping mid-administration and at every administration change is going to cause them too much harm in the long run.

ruby helm
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If the rich companies behind the republicians don't like it, trump can admit their will some "exemptions" to the tariffs, and it was "never" the plan that they would apply to all products

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or say he has signed an incredible deal with countries that consists of nothing all because he threatened to tariff them

eager parrot
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I think he's just being peak boomer burn it all and take it down as he withers away mode right now

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he is a first year boomer after all.

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if it works it works, if not, he won't care for much longer.

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every single one of us probably knows at least one boomer who is withholding all their wealth from their children, or watching some expensive collection rot away.

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this is just on a much grander scale.

blazing depot
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Thing is, while he will also ruin the economy elsewhere the ones suffering the most will still be Americans who slowly realize that only a complete imbecile with a single digit IQ can believe a country can be 100% self sufficient in the globalist economy we have today. This isn't the 1800s (and hell, even back then there was no such thing)

hoary charm
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chill, you'll wake up the juche enjoyers

eager parrot
blazing depot
eager parrot
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there's a rush of people purchasing big ticket stuff like cars, appliances, electronics, etc. before tariffs have their full impact

hoary charm
blazing depot
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They wouldn't even last a week

eager parrot
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ironically I think Canada produces more clothes domestically than the US does now

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at least scaled to the size of the population/economy

hoary charm
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am kinda wondering if corporations will apply blanket price increases worldwide or just on US sales

eager parrot
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what do you think?

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greedy corporations will try to extract every cent they can

hoary charm
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real

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if they do then i might try getting work to get me a laptop sooner rather than later

eager parrot
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in fact, what's going to happen is domestic producers will price their stuff JUST A HAIR below the tarrif-impacted imported product of the same type and category

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because again, everybody thinks things will go back to normal in half a year or so...

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might as well make a profit

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I'm gonna try and score a german-made appliance or two before tarrifs hit

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my dishwasher's control boards exploded a while back and I've been putting off replacing it for months

hoary charm
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become an appliance trafficker

fossil basin
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Making someone political does not equate to making something bad or unneeded

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Often times being political is what is needed

eager parrot
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the black market will thrive

ruby helm
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If you go on holiday to japan, can you bring back 5 nintendo switches for your family and not have to pay tariffs?

eager parrot
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grey market electronics (legit purchases from europe and japan usually which carry no warranty in the US) for example were already doing pretty well

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this will supercharge it

eager parrot
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but only if you are an american-born caucasian

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everybody else is getting increased scrutiny I hear

ruby helm
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putting aside the getting away with it, if you take 5 switches on holiday with you to japan and then bring them back again there are no tariffs right, as they just your possesions you took with you and took back

eager parrot
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in theory yeah, in practice they might ask you to provide receipts or proof that it is not an import of a new product

charred fulcrum
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Hmm

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I am gonna go frank here and say I am quite the empty can when in terms of global economy

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And now the word "tariff" gets thrown around

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Like I know what it is

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I think I do

hoary charm
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hello frank

charred fulcrum
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Tariff :

American buy China parts, buy base price + 46% tariffs

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So if part cost 100

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Importer pays 146

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Am I in the right track so far?

hoary charm
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yeah

charred fulcrum
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Okay so with that imposed tariff on the importer

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Importer needs margin to resell to American market

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Thus more expens

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Is that correct?

hoary charm
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yes

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sometimes parts go back and forth which means tariff multiple times

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iirc a lot of car parts do that between canada and mexico

charred fulcrum
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Yeah how in the fuck tariffs will help American people?

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Cause I don't see it

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And I am probably the most Malaysian around here aka not caring about the US

hoary charm
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tariffs are usually used to protect domestic production by making overseas production artificially more expensive

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trump seems to think that corporations will suddenly rush to bring production back to the US

charred fulcrum
hoary charm
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as well as paying down the national debt via tariff income

charred fulcrum
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Or there is, just not the important and mundane ones

hoary charm
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ironically probably one of the only high value/tech mass manufacturing the US has is starlink terminals

charred fulcrum
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Yeah lmao AMD is in Malaysia

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Qualcomm is jumping ship to Malaysia

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NVIDIA also I heard, jumping ship to Malaysia

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But guess what we also buy raw materials from China

hoary charm
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a lot of companies moved from china to vietnam to avoid china tariffs, just for vietnam to get tariffed more than china

hoary charm
charred fulcrum
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So what I am seeing here is iPhones gonna priced more in America

hoary charm
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considering there's a 10% base on every country, everything will get more expensive

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which is just inflationary

charred fulcrum
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And then they felt "hey I think I might not be able to sustain this let's go back to Android"

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but naw wait even budget midrange phones will be priced higher cause chipsets

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Am I to understand that America is imploding slowly as we speak?

hoary charm
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more or less

charred fulcrum
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Okay huh

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That wasn't that hard to understand

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So why is them discussing and debating like it's deeper than it is?

hoary charm
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who

charred fulcrum
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"No it's not that straightforward, you just don't fully grasp the tariff concept"

charred fulcrum
# hoary charm who

Uh massive amounts of internet comments of which I will not mention where they are from

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For it will be obvious as to why

hoary charm
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republicans are fuckin stupid

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thats why

charred fulcrum
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Right

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So I don't need to be an American to understand American tariffs

hoary charm
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tldr is that trying to understand trump is a waste of time

charred fulcrum
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And they insinuating I need to be American to get the benefits of this....tariffs

dreamy ledge
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we benefit by getting higher prices on everything... wait

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🥁

vital needle
marsh oracle
blazing depot
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Except in the US they'll skip the anti suicide nets on the factory roof

blazing depot
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That gosh darned fake science

trim flicker
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lmao

hoary charm
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crypto tumbling down now, gonna be brutal on monday market open

livid frigate
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Awesome

half heath
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Man i can't believe i only learned about all those protests last night. I've seen 0 proper coverage of them except a few pics and clips on reddit

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Scary how far the censorship is going these days

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even here i don't think anybody mentioned it

half heath
last eagle
eager parrot
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Not low enough.

proud tulip
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I'm tired of winning now please make it stop

eager parrot
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How many worldwide crashes is that now within one millennial generation?

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I know they called it millennials, but they didn't mean once in a millennium happenings should be a regular occurrence for us >_>

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Still, I don't mind this. Needed a correction, needs to keep going lower. Time for a repeat of 1920's >:)

hoary charm
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euro indexes shitting the bed

marsh oracle
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Chat is it bad if my trading app cant even load the data?

eager parrot
hoary charm
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premarket in 30 min

marsh oracle
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Makes for a funny looking graph at least

valid magnet
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We go doooowwwwnnn

proud tulip
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time to buy! (if you can afford it)

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just gonna keep putting my monthly amount in

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always bounces back sweats

ocean vigil
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orange monday hype

marsh oracle
proud tulip
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yeah

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im nervous to even keep doing it but

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historically its been a good decision so can only go with that

eager parrot
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nah it has a lot more room to go down, only gonna put money in if there are signs of a bounce, but otherwise fuck this market rn

icy pine
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Sorry for my ignorance, but may I know what this channel about and what would be the appropriate demeanor in this channel?

proud tulip
# icy pine Sorry for my ignorance, but may I know what this channel about and what would be...

there's no set rule but a run down of this compared to the other main chat channels is something like:

#orbit-chat - first main chat, general talk/short conversations/welcomes/yapping
#kpop-chat-2 - slightly longer conversations, usually about kpop scandals and other things like that but not limited to only that
#1042073107554381864 - longer drawn conversations, usually in the realm of politics/economics/news related stuff

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none of those are set rules but its just how the channels have developed over time

icy pine
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Ah so various topics can be discussed in this channel

proud tulip
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yeah! this is part of the forum so if you want to go in depth on a specific topic you can open a post about it, you'll see the kinda stuff that has had posts already

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but this used to be just one channel that followed a similar point of conversation, so kept the same kinda vibe once we converted to a forum

icy pine
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Aha thanks for your guidance, I’ll consider opening new forums

proud tulip
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It'll be worth searching in the forum to see if there's a post already on the topic, and feel free to revive it if there is, but if not yeah please create whatever you're looking to talk about

icy pine
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Okay. Thanks, but by the way, it looks like i don’t have authority to create new posts yet. 😐

proud tulip
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Ohh sorry I didn't see you didn't have the Orbit role yet. It comes after chatting in current places, you're gaining xp for each message you sent. Keep an eye on your roles when the Orbit one appears (I think it's the second one with a Galaxy emoji) you will be able to do it aPES_Salute

hoary charm
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oil below $60

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its so over

dire canopy
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I honestly have no idea how investing in stocks works or how it is worth because I'm completely financially illiterate

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but I assume this isn't good for my bank account either

proud tulip
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your direct bank account wont take a hit if youre not investing, but if we go into a recession things will cost more and your pay wont go up

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also on a scarier note a lot of companies make cuts in a recession so a lot of people lose their jobs

proud tulip
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@hoary charm

valid magnet
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Rowling went from a raging transphobe to a raging acephobe, what is the mold telling her

fossil basin
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surely at some point it will become clear to people that JK is a promoter of patriachy herself

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it should have been evident even from the writing style and character handling within the HP series

fossil basin
marsh oracle
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The market is so high on copium they apparently believe everything right now lmfao

charred fulcrum
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Seems like you craft your sentences too well

keen nest
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Stocks on sale rn yep #notfinancialadvice

marsh oracle
keen nest
trim flicker
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sound business decisions all throughout

vital needle
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If you really crunch the numbers, the Vatican has an overall pope concentration of 5,2 popes per square mile

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Think about it

dire canopy
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Apparently Vatican wasnt hit by the tariffs

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Italy could probably do something funny now

fossil basin
blazing depot
blazing depot
shadow elbow
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lol

blazing depot
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If anyone has to pay it's England, it's their bastard child after all

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All of this is amazing to watch

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The people who are trying to reason "this isn't that bad, trust" are coming up with the dumbest shit

nova holly
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only market in the green is silksong news

fossil basin
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https://FxTWitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1909040510607704339?t=lPkp3KiayOVaP032iQWXeQ&s=19for
of course the 25 hour non-filibuster "filibuster" Cory Booker signs the appointment

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marsh oracle
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Can only service us customers now o7

vital needle
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Guys, bolsonaro sent you a message

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Popcorn AN
Ice cream
Sinners
Setenta dias
For cook
The tha
In brasil

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Hope you got that

blazing depot
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Que

vital needle
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He does it at 0:20

fossil basin
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Time to stop messing around. Life is great. Especially at ESPN/Disney. Hate the thought of being a politician. But sick of this mess.
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not after when he spreads hate on current gen of players

marsh oracle
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Luckily for everybody the democrats can just bernie the guy out of the race

blazing depot
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bruh

hoary charm
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twitter warfare

marsh oracle
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https://fxtwitter.com/colossal/status/1909289252711739855 great we got irl dire wolves before winds of winter 🙄

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last eagle
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and there's still more to come

eager parrot
# blazing depot

here's a nice made up graph to show how indices going up doesn't mean much over a long period of time...

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dot com bubble got real damn close though

marsh oracle
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Its like when people talk about how the government is taking in record amounts of taxes (although that might be more a quirk of german politics)

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You already know you can tune out cause theyre gonna spout some bullshit

trim flicker
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graphs oliviapain

half heath
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Man Carney is really growing on me

last eagle
pale knot
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How greatly will this affect the tech industry

charred fulcrum
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oh what

icy pine
charred fulcrum
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Oh so you're not native

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Where are you from?

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I mean I figured that

icy pine
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Yep I’m not native english speaker
I am in S Korea

dreamy ledge
# pale knot How greatly will this affect the tech industry

don't know who cleantechnica is so I don't know how accurate their info is but saw it on reddit a few days ago.
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05/china-just-turned-off-u-s-supplies-of-minerals-critical-for-defense-cleantech/

In response to new Trump tariffs, China cut dysprosium, terbium, and tungsten exports—hitting U.S. EVs, wind, and military systems hard.

charred fulcrum
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oh US

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So Malaysia can still thrive

hoary charm
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to all countries.

dreamy ledge
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the twt says global so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

icy pine
pale knot
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It says global and I believe in Twitter ||/s||

icy pine
charred fulcrum
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Malaysia

icy pine
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Ohh

dreamy ledge
# pale knot It says global and I believe in Twitter ||/s||
Reuters

China placed export restrictions on rare earth elements on Friday as part of its sweeping response to U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs, squeezing supply to the West of minerals used to make weapons, electronics and a range of consumer goods.

charred fulcrum
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..

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This smells bad

pale knot
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Oh I see

charred fulcrum
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Like really bad

hoary charm
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trade wars are usually pretty bad yeah

icy pine
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DJI and S&P 500

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I mean DJIA seems decreasing in recent times

ocean vigil
hoary charm
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ill support them shitting on the EU if it means they get rid of cookie banners

blazing depot
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Well... can't wait to pay double for phones and everything containing computer chips because of all this

valid magnet
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Great i will never get a gaming pc

last eagle
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thanks, trump

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now everything gets expensive again

charred fulcrum
last eagle
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for a cheap price on your localization, yes

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but for us? Sadge

fossil basin
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hell the 100000 rph are more valuable than the highest turkish banknote of 200 tls currently

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albeit there are speculations country could release a 500tl banknote soon, idk if it holds any value though

marsh oracle
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Slightly concerning that the news of previously announced tariffs actually happening makes the markets nose dive again

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Investing in copium production stonkS

fossil basin
trim flicker
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markets are fake

toxic spoke
marsh oracle
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Backstabbed by his own appointee

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Maga marching orders going out right now, we got a new amy coney barrett

blazing depot
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Bro just gonna defy another judge's order, no big deal

hoary charm
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3ish hours until 104% tariff on china

hoary charm
trim flicker
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does the current state of the market affect the value of my A319 Nakyoung from the World Cup

blazing depot
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Truly amazing

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And in trade war news

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Good thing that there are... checks notes... exactly 0 mega container ships built in the US to compensate this vivikek

hoary charm
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i dont know shit about bonds but the 30 year just hit 5%

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which is apparently really bad

last eagle
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trump ruining america, not surprised

half heath
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iirc government bonds are supposed to be one of the safest investments. It dropping low should be really bad

charred fulcrum
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Well US won't pay

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Importers will?

hoary charm
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importers

charred fulcrum
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US importers

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So you're telling me Xiaomi/Huawei/Honor phones will be priced triple the MSRP?

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Like there's gonna be US MSRP, and rest of the world MSRP

eager parrot
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You can as a country put tariffs on exports too.

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but most of this trade war seems focused on import tariffs/taxes

charred fulcrum
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104% seems like suicidal

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Suddenly mundane house hardware will gonna be priced double

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Cause like 70% of what we use is most probably Made In China

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And definitely not in a thousand years China will even lay a hand on that imposed tariff

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They can just do business somewhere else

eager parrot
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70% nominally sounds about right, but when you start looking at specific categories, it's nearly 100%.

charred fulcrum
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Well yeah

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Suppose a toaster

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Might be assembled in the US

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But the thermostat is deffo Chinese

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Heating element

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Circuit

eager parrot
#

there are simply too many things we no longer produce domestically

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and a significant portion of that has to do with electrical and electronic parts

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that's not to say there isn't a path towards that domestic production within a decade or so, but this is really an extreme way to go about it

charred fulcrum
eager parrot
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and to alienate EVERY nation is really just idiotic. You'd want to keep some on your side while you move production stateside.

eager parrot
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the LABOR is the main issue, who is gonna be doing the work, but moving the production capabilities stateside isn't going to be that challenging if there is a will.

charred fulcrum
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US has to reverse their decision of labeling every immigrant legal or not as "aliens" and that has to happen now

eager parrot
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I don't know. there aren't THAT many illegal immigrants in the US to be fair. Just stop giving all the citizens rights and liberty, and we can be just like China in a decade 🙂

charred fulcrum
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These ....so called immigrants have been doing them bottom of the barrel labours that is but a crucial thing to keep a factory running

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"Wait...you're making me do this? Clearing the sump?"

eager parrot
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to be fair, what you're describing is really state dependent

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it's not all illegal immigrants doing the work

charred fulcrum
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"uhuh yeah because this Murjeet guy we've been asking him to do got deported so yeah you're the one's gonna do it after him"

eager parrot
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That sounds like Canada, given they are the ones using Indian students as manual labor.

charred fulcrum
#

oh kek

eager parrot
#

which is really sad when you read about it, they are all high and mighty about how much they are better than the US

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but they are also importing essentially a lower near slave class of laborers through various visa scams