Misc Chat

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/FT/status/1891473687393550640?t=FEcvOYIi0vOLRRWcgiKGeg&s=19

[fossil basin]

Not as a brag, it is the only serious comparison i had gotten in terms of celebs

I also talk incomprehensibly or as sidebranched as i type, so people think i am a foreigner

[last eagle]

seems like you posted that before on #kpop-chat-2

[fossil basin]

I forgot, my bad

I tend to double send and even double talk things i had talked about before

Not just to torture this server

[blazing depot]

If by "trying something different" you mean "Do what great leader Putin wants" then sure.

[pale flower]

I'm not fully convinced that's what it'll end up being
But any peace negotiations would force the parties involved to do some of what the other party wants

[ocean vigil]

well the most relevant party is not involved in the negotiations, that's the problem

wait for Rubio to go full Chamberlain with 'Peace for our time' bs

[pale flower]

Did the US team confirm they wouldn't discuss things with Ukraine at all?

I thought I read that Zelensky wants to begin the peace negotiations too

[ocean vigil]

Putin does not want to negotiate with Zelensky

[blazing depot]

Zelensky's stipulation is that he wants to negotiate with Putin and only Putin

[pale flower]

I don't expect the Russians/Ukranians to sit at the same negotiation table, I thought it was going to be more like the Americans will be hopping from one neutral location to the other

[blazing depot]

And the Americans have made no indication of wanting to do any such thing

In fact
https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1891519856949743796

The Telegraph (@Telegraph) on X

🚨 REVEALED: Donald Trump demands higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at Versailles

The Telegraph has obtained a draft of the pre-decisional contract, marked “Privileged & Confidential’ and dated Feb 7 2025

Read the terms ⬇️
https://t.co/xxRPfrm8rE

X · Feb 17, 2025, 4:07 PM

Trump doesn't give a flying fuck about the Ukraine, bro just wants to divide the spoils

[pale flower]

I guess we'll wait and see then

[blazing depot]

See how bad it will be, yes. Putting any level of trust in anything Trump does is a baffling decision though. Like the riviera riverfront.

[ocean vigil]

when the scale goes from 'Munich 1938' to 'Partition of Poland'

[pale flower]

It's not so much as putting trust in it as it is just, something different that'll shake things up one way or the other

Whether he has some good idea of how to fix things (doubt), or a bad idea on how to fix things (likely), other countries will likely get more involved in the situation than they currently are and conversations on a better solution will no doubt happen too

[hoary charm]

trump has an obsession with balanced trade/deals, so he's trying to get their rare minerals as payment for all the support

[blazing depot]

"Balanced"

[fossil basin]

A "friend of the Roman Empire" situation

[trim flicker]

The terms of the contract that landed at Volodymyr Zelensky’s office a week ago amount to the US economic colonisation of Ukraine
This does describe it pretty well lol

That's insane

[fossil basin]

I am not surprised

[vital needle]

Thank you president Trump for finally dismantling the US empire and allow the world to glimpse a future of freedom

[marsh oracle]

Well the world thats not close to russia or china

[vital needle]

Russia will sort itself out and die eventually, china will liberate us

Jk idk if russia would die on its own

[marsh oracle]

xdd

[vital needle]

Maybe when putin does

[fossil basin]

I would warn people to not trust any major power

In terms of seeing them as a savior

[blazing depot]

People have been hoping for that for like 400+ years tbh

[vital needle]

I think thats just you germans hoping for that before the 20th century

Well germans and siberian minorities tbf

[fossil basin]

Per my knowledge, it was atleast Commonwealth, Ottoman Empire, Qing Empire, Great Britain, Sweden and such before 20th century

Great Britain due the Great Game

France also due Napoleon

I am also assuming the khanate remnants would be it as well

And Safavids

[eager parrot]

Soviet Union falling apart was the closest they ever came to the Russian Empire falling apart

and now the US president is quite literally repeating Russian propaganda talking points like Zelensky has only 4% approval rating, so it's over, the dream of breaking apart the federation is done.

if anything, they going into war economy because of the war they started as well as the most, heaviest sanctions ever, even surpassing what was put on Iran, is only going to make things worse.

[vital needle]

And also the greatest tragedy for human civilizational development

We still havent recoveres unfortunately

[eager parrot]

we could have, if the west had embraced the fallen soviet union and all its satellite states

instead the west decided collectively to gloat about their "victory" and cause even more hardship

and now 35 years later, nobody has collectively moved on or recovered because of that

we have cold war era politicians and leaders still waging proxy wars and economic wars

[vital needle]

It would have made the world slightly less bad for russia's neighbors but still a remarkably worse world for everyone

Capitalists had the oportunity to run rampant with no credible threat for decades

[eager parrot]

sounds like we're close to the find out phase of this capitalistic rampage

[fringe juniper]

Capitalistic rampage is gonna be my new gamer tag

[eager parrot]

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1891922058415603980

The White House (@WhiteHouse) on X

ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight 🔊

X · Feb 18, 2025, 6:45 PM

this is what happens when you let millennials and zoomers into the white house

the future's bright

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-trinity-test-fireball-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-gif-16906626692822045588

[blazing depot]

You know, I wonder if they have enabled monetization on WH tweets

Wouldn't be surprised

https://fixupx.com/factpostnews/status/1891963718503719310

Bro just be writing everything

[eager parrot]

well he said he won't be dictator on day one

he didn't say he won't be dictator shortly after

[trim flicker]

Wasn't the quote that he would be a dictator on day one but only on day one

One little day of dictatorship, as a treat

[eager parrot]

feels like a long day then

[hoary charm]

one day special operation

[trim flicker]

It's called the Trump day, the longest and most beautiful day we've ever seen (in Trump voice)

But uh yeah shit's pretty bad huh

[eager parrot]

it's getting worse, like people are actually starting to feel it in their daily lives

the closer you are to DC, the worse it feels probably

the number of people losing their jobs is somewhat shocking

my friends and acquaintances circle isn't big but even I already know around 6 people indirectly or directly affected by the layoffs and firings

on another note, I guess I will never use Chrome for anything but Discord ever again

[hoary charm]

arc hasnt updated their chromium version yet

[eager parrot]

this is sooooooooo much worse than I thought it was from the still shots

how nobody died is ... I have no words

compared to the south korean one that landed basically clean (although super fast) but with no landing gears, before hitting that concrete barrier .....

[fossil basin]

Zelensky not being a good leader or a liked leader should not excuse Ukraine being invaded

[fossil basin]

Very familiar to me

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensuring-accountability-for-all-agencies/

Now apparently all government agencies will be controlled by The White House, and all who refuses orders can be fired

[fossil basin]

Seatbelts

[fossil basin]

He also had said that people would not have to vote in 2028 so

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1891922058415603980 very cool very normal yep

[eager parrot]

it's just peak clown world

embrace it

also already posted

[fossil basin]

I really did not wish americanized erdoğanopolitics on people

I am not responsible for this

[half heath]

nah the streets really be saying it's lucifers fault

[last eagle]

yep

[marsh oracle]

What are the chances the us starts sending troops to help russia

[supple dragon]

[half heath]

when firefox switches up what do we do...

[fossil basin]

I use opera, i am relatively content with it

Though i use malwarebytes' free anti-malware addon alongside

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1892268853582798874?t=8BUCuiqPrCf25d_nix8U1Q&s=19

[blazing depot]

So now he's just mask off parotting Putin 1:1, cool

Not that it's a surprise, but still

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1892287945052217465?t=qYs2iE8pwXhazJWQLqJhmA&s=19

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) on X

Trump calls himself “THE KING”

X · Feb 19, 2025, 6:59 PM

Well

At least it's official now

[blazing depot]

Plus
https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1892289659603910745?t=gtBMvYYFEO_y8Mut9Xz8kg&s=19

Dmitry Medvedev (@MedvedevRussiaE) on X

"A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left." If you'd told me just three months ago that these were the words of the US president, I would have laughed out loud. @realDonaldTrump is 200 percent right. Bankrupt clown…

X · Feb 19, 2025, 7:06 PM

Definitely the person you want agreeing with you

[marsh oracle]

Putin and friends have probably been popping champagne bottles for weeks

On the path to taking out their main geopolitical opposition with a bunch of Internet bots

[pale flower]

https://tenor.com/view/scar-mufasa-scary-lion-king-gif-5571645

[ocean vigil]

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1892295984928993698

The White House (@WhiteHouse) on X

"CONGESTION PRICING IS DEAD. Manhattan, and all of New York, is SAVED. LONG LIVE THE KING!"
–President Donald J. Trump

X · Feb 19, 2025, 7:31 PM

[blazing depot]

Tfw this is actually a real timeline

Also this is official stuff that will be archived by some poor sob at the Iforgotthenameoftheusgovarchivers

[fossil basin]

This is WHAT stuff?

https://youtu.be/wBjNEZBxPIQ?si=myIqfvork0eUyeR_

[blazing depot]

Anything the WH posts is an official document that has to be archived

And that includes... whatever tf this is

[fossil basin]

Sounds reasonable it'd work that way

[blazing depot]

Interestingly enough for once there aren't even MAGAs in the comments defending it. I guess they're in their "pretending it doesn't exist" mode

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Variety/status/1892010734415987139?t=44dHtbYi7aYLgj7DJHvmeA&s=19

Same thing Biden has done

I wonder if they will ever appear in a movie

[marsh oracle]

Copmala Harris and Joe Biden buddy cop movie

[blazing depot]

Except they're corrupt cops for Trumpish accuracy

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/Orwellsghost28/status/1892260068881494452

this is... quite a combo

[eager parrot]

worst possible combo

now a lot of places there won't have heat because of basement boilers and furnaces

and there's literally nothing the municipal services could do to clear the way

[deft spoke]

opportunity to build a huge snow castle

[last eagle]

nah, make it icy

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/kanyewest/status/1892307950670057946

ye (@kanyewest) on X

After further reflection I’ve come to the realization that I’m not a Nazi

X · Feb 19, 2025, 8:19 PM

lmao

[half heath]

fried

burnt even

[blazing depot]

Truly amazing

[trim flicker]

MAN

Lmao

[last eagle]

ye comeback with the absolute cinema statement

[supple dragon]

[haughty steppe]

the cycle continues

[fossil basin]

From his tweets it seems like he was convinced not to be a Nazi after talking to... Adam Sandler

[haughty steppe]

he said the same thing about jonah hill the last time he did this

[brave pelican]

good movie

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/CTVNews/status/1892546082606858425?t=kRFoxxDHChru0o-mJ5xgnQ&s=19

CTV News (@CTVNews) on X

Grocers stocking up on Canadian, international suppliers as shoppers avoid American https://t.co/usV8n6H22P

X · Feb 20, 2025, 12:05 PM

Kinda funny how this actually improved Canadian industry balances at least for some

Getting Canadians this mad is definitely not easy

[half heath]

ngl proud of them, half expected a big portion to be into the whole maga invasion

[blazing depot]

I have some usually non political Canadians on my tl and they're just mad asf

[ocean vigil]

there was more bs spouted today

[marsh oracle]

Unfortunately not even close to the most insane thing posted today

https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1892613981426102465

o7 community notes, you had a good run

[blazing depot]

Read: community notes will now be moderated to only reflect the correct opinion (Elon's)

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/mcrs987/status/1892595050208489940?t=Ygjcoi0AyHKbh6hQXuIK5A&s=19

[marsh oracle]

That was my free space actually

[dire canopy]

so apparently Bonnie Blue the woman who slept with 1057 man in one day is pregnant

now I wonder how you would handle the logistics of making so many DNA tests

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/ftc-investigates-tech-censorship-says-its-un-american-and-may-be-illegal/

I'm predicting now that part of the next steps will be penalties and sanctions against other countries where they enforce censorship and hate speech laws.

but not the usual suspects, not authoritarian and totalitarian countries, no, it'll be against western countries, australia, new zealand, EU, UK, etc.

FTC itself of course doesn't have the power to do that, but this is clearly all part of the same agenda.

[blazing depot]

At this point just bring it on, fucker

[fringe juniper]

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1892793839649272278?t=N-tzCbhcPLuwek2edqNC8Q&s=19

Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) on X

You can’t take our country — and you can’t take our game.

X · Feb 21, 2025, 4:29 AM

Trump gonna ban hockey soon

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/YA0IFRQTTING/status/1892612051001852183?t=M25xNIX6aZmq_7DvvWj36A&s=19

Basically this thread sums up well how US will resemble AKP Turkey

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Variety/status/1892964287594803405?t=OnfP9HvQAHSj1QBzrNrpLw&s=19

yeah he is screwed

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/airbagged1/status/1892938795298759020?t=cKQCVfg50qH1AROhkKl1uA&s=19

"Divergent" in big 2025

[trim flicker]

lmao

man he is stupid

[blazing depot]

No Elon, we see it, trust.

It doesn't cease to be hilarious that the richest man on earth is also the winiest bitch on earth who somehow wants to be one of the poor downtrodden masses

[fossil basin]

Bad news, you're going to be cursed with it for eternity

Not personally, as in having a leading figure that is all seeing and all doing yet also wanting to always play the victim card

[blazing depot]

Idk about eternity, maybe I get lucky with that asteroid

[fossil basin]

Also i might have forgotten you are german so not... Yet atleast

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1892968771469381650?t=xHc1ohNjsgxElH4B50pD0Q&s=19

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/apple-pulls-data-protection-tool-instead-of-caving-to-uk-demand-for-a-backdoor/

[blazing depot]

Yeah, only the US gets exclusive backdoor access!

(As in, while this is good painting it as a win for apple protecting consumers is hilarious)

[eager parrot]

fair

though you can't backdoor encryption like that without weakening it completely

Apple didn't even give in to the FBI in case of terrorism and mass shooting

I just think this is going to be a trend going forward, especially with what I had posted a little earlier with regards to FTC actions and all the tech companies falling in line the US recently

there will likely be a lot more "we'll pull out of this market" than compromise like there was previously

game of chicken to see who will give in

[blazing depot]

Yes, because otherwise Trump gets mad

[eager parrot]

dangerous times

[half heath]

fun

[eager parrot]

an imperial, highly militarized, aggressive Canada is an interesting thought

frankly at least the highly militarized part you should have gone for after WWI and WWII instead of being entirely dependent on the US

[hoary charm]

big weekend for the germans huh

[blazing depot]

It do be election weekend

I have voted already though, by evil mail in votes

[supple dragon]

Dis elections to form new gov?

[marsh oracle]

Yea

But our head of state is elected by our house of representatives, so those elections are tied together

[haughty steppe]

lovely sight this fine morning

[haughty steppe]

Cybertruck drove past as we were walking and they all booed LOL

[blazing depot]

Kek

[ocean vigil]

cybertruck in that weather, yikes

[blazing depot]

Wdym, the cyber truck is the ultimate vehicle, no matter the weather

[haughty steppe]

it was painted white which somehow made it uglier

[blazing depot]

Listen man, one of his kids whose mom didn't hate him yet designed it when they were 5 yrs old. It's precious

[dire canopy]

it does look like a 3rd graders geometry homework when you look at it from the side

[fossil basin]

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/republicans-introduce-bill-to-withdraw-us-1740128606.html

The UN might be done for

https://fxtwitter.com/BallsackSports/status/1893404857047851191?t=HkkovrKi28WQbTZnxuzQpQ&s=19
Ballsack Sports conclude it well

[toxic spoke]

Happy Election Day over there

[hoary charm]

might not be a happy day

[toxic spoke]

[blazing depot]

We shall see in a little over an hour

[shadow elbow]

vote for help

[hoary charm]

is that when exit polls start coming out?

[blazing depot]

German exit polls are usually very close to the actual result, yes

They traditionally always come out at 6pm, too

Plus the final tally will be posted sometimes during the night. We don't drag our feet.

[blazing depot]

Voter turnout is apparently, like, 17% higher that last time

[marsh oracle]

Lol

[valid magnet]

Oh boy I am glad that I 🗳

[marsh oracle]

Imagine if the cdu had someone even a tiny bit likeable at the top right now

Easy absolute majority for them probably

[blazing depot]

Merz basically calling all the anti nazi protesters leftist scum two days before election day was a pretty good finisher for the Wahlkampf

[marsh oracle]

Also exploiting lübckes murder when the cdu was the quietest back then. Hes starting to look like the german jd vance in terms of political savviness

[blazing depot]

Merz was shit decades before JD even needed to shave

[valid magnet]

Never change Merz

[blazing depot]

Well, looks like what was expected, but CDU below 30, AfD below 20 and FDP/BSW out

Which was pretty much the best we could hope for

[marsh oracle]

The zdf has bsw and fdp in

Whens the next election, might as well start prepping now

[blazing depot]

"Too close to call" on those two, pretty much

[valid magnet]

i actually expected afd to be higher

they recently did multiple demos near my old home 🤢

[blazing depot]

Just gonna GroKo again as expected

[supple dragon]

for me Merz is a stranger, is he better or worse than Scholz?

[marsh oracle]

Worse

[supple dragon]

[ocean vigil]

neither of them is able to embrace the baldness

[fringe juniper]

Hehe bald

[blazing depot]

Current count

[deft spoke]

im not much known of the german parties, but afd was that elon musk inviter party right?

[marsh oracle]

Yea

Anti Euro, anti eu, anti migration

[deft spoke]

damn

[marsh oracle]

Oh also want to tear down all wind power

[deft spoke]

huh alright then..

[marsh oracle]

[proud tulip]

what did the wind do?!

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-26949640

[deft spoke]

they hate the avatar (aang) fr

[blazing depot]

They're very pro Fire nation attack

[fossil basin]

https://x.com/Abdu7499/status/1893669669376020742?t=gglsEfwfpPZnIBBpI46JRQ&s=19

Someone seems to have wrote in ex-fenerbahçe president Aziz Yıldırım and current Galatasaray striker Mauro Icardi for German elections

AbduUE (@Abdu7499) on X

X · Feb 23, 2025, 2:30 PM

[blazing depot]

Don't care, there's actually relevant things to post.

[fossil basin]

Itis quite relevant to see two rival team names together in this context

Speaking of Erdogan, Mesut Özil officially joined AKP management

[blazing depot]

No, it's not. Read the room post it where someone cares. Return tomorrow for shit takes.

[fossil basin]

This is not even a take, you are just pissed off for some reason

[blazing depot]

Just save your completely irrelevant to anything bs tweets for the day / topic

[ocean vigil]

first time voter stuff is interesting

[blazing depot]

The Linke gained massive momentun at the end when everyone thought they'd never make it in

Thanks to Merz as well for that matter

Tried to shit on one female Linke politician so hard it flew right back into his face

It's kinda sad that the younglings voted 51% Putin fans tbh

[marsh oracle]

Eh, die linke massively mellowed out on that since sahra zarenknecht left

Their foreign policy is still bad but not putin fan bad

[blazing depot]

Well, their stance on the Ukraine war is largely "but what if sunshine and rainbows" which really only benefits one side in that conflict

But yeah, they're not BSW/AfD bad

Getting worse for FDP at least, which is great

[deft spoke]

this aint relevant at all💀

im curious what the results will be so ig i shall annoy ryou in dms

[glossy kite]

hi

[blazing depot]

Final tally will be out this night, but I wouldn't expect any huge changes from this

Basically the only undecided thing is whether BSW makes it in or not

Here's hope they don't

[glossy kite]

yeaa

itll be GroKo

[blazing depot]

They're actually a few seats short for that rn if BSW makes it in

[glossy kite]

Yeahh thars why bsw shouldnt

[blazing depot]

Which is one more reason to hope they're not, cause as bad as GroKo is, the alternative is hoping Söder and Merz don't fall over backwards to form a coalition with the AfD despite all promises and guarantees they won't

[ocean vigil]

would they actually want to be part of the government instead of being free to complain about everything without offering any real solutions as part of the opposition?

[blazing depot]

I mean, yeah. Be part of the coalition, openly and constantly complain about the coalition partner throughout the entire thing and then break the coalition at an opporrtune moment to force new elections

You know, like the FDP

Except the FDP forgot to delete the "How to topple the government" draft

[pale flower]

Oh y'all have to deal with that bs too?

Always fun (read: annoying af) to read and listen through

[blazing depot]

Usually no, but the FDP had to FDP

idk why that party even still exists

[pale flower]

I think we've had that happen maybe 4 times since 2020 or so

[fringe juniper]

Me when I voted misc-chat for president

[pale flower]

Political instability 🦀 Having to go vote for a PM every few months 🦀

[blazing depot]

Still somehow vote the same guy every time who is so obviously corrupt he could be a Bond villain from the early Bond movies

[pale flower]

That's part of the great pain of the coalition system

I think the corruption goes pretty well with being willing to shift your opinions around/appease potential coalition partners with deals they can't say no to

[marsh oracle]

Lindner underperformed the fdp in his district

[blazing depot]

kek

Fuck that guy

[marsh oracle]

Honestly that alone saves my night

[hoary charm]

by the sounds of it, not going too well

[blazing depot]

It's what was expected

FDP and BSW not being in was pretty much best case scenario

And FDP is 100% out at this point

BSW will be close

[blazing depot]

We going down to 2nd digit now

[livid frigate]

germany seems to be doing great

[blazing depot]

Truly amazing, yes

[livid frigate]

wonder what the coalition will be

[blazing depot]

Could be worse though, Wagenknecht and Lindner could be in

[livid frigate]

yeah

[blazing depot]

Well, with this outcome and BSW out it's 100% a grand coalition again

Aka GroKo with chancellor Merz

[livid frigate]

yippeee

[blazing depot]

Chancellor Merz is a phrase I never wanted to have to use, ever

But here we are, they didn't have anyone else available besides Söder

And that's a whole different can of worms

[livid frigate]

i'm surprised by the turnout for die linke

[blazing depot]

That's also thanks to Merz, he shat on the left in general and some Die Linke politicians so hard that a lot of people flocked to them

Well, that and the "We're totally left you guys" BSW voted with the nazis and actually leftist people had no excuse to vote for them any more

And now they're likely not gonna make it in, funny how that goes

[shadow elbow]

am I winning

[blazing depot]

Yes, king

[shadow elbow]

finally

[blazing depot]

By the way, this says "interim result", but it's actually pretty much the official final result

[toxic spoke]

not a real country. this dude is a right wing rumble streamer
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1893841367945605154

Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) on X

JUST IN: Trump has named Dan BONGINO deputy director of the FBI

X · Feb 24, 2025, 1:52 AM

[marsh oracle]

Collapse of the us might delay the AGI takeover for a few years

I call that a win

[blazing depot]

These are final official tallies, not exit polls. Those happened at 6pm

[hoary charm]

wtf kind of name is bongino

[dire canopy]

I wouldn't be surprised if he named him into that position because he thought the name is funny

[eager parrot]

might as well get ready for the next election already with this kind of distribution

[eager parrot]

lol unreal, all that's left is naming that guntuber running for congress as head of ATF.

[ocean vigil]

? this distribution gives cdu and spd comfortable majority without the need for third party that could collapse it again

[eager parrot]

aren't CDU and SPD on basically opposite sites of the spectrum?

[ocean vigil]

this isn't united states

the right-center party can work with the left-center party

[eager parrot]

no, it's germany and their previous relatively comfortable all leftist sides just collapsed months ago

refusing to work with the union after the coalition fell apart was part of that, no? and Merz was more than happy to pass stuff relying on AfD once before, so who says politicians can't be hypocrites

[ocean vigil]

because fdp fucked around and found out

[eager parrot]

we'll see

I doubt they'll make it to even three years if they get into a coalition together

it's not quite 2023-2024 dutch cabinet formation but it's a funny conundrum regardless

[eager parrot]

they deservedly so got wiped off

[toxic spoke]

Oh yeah Brandon Herrera

Wouldn’t be surprised

[blazing depot]

Wdym, the grand coalition has historically easily been the most stable out of all coalitions, last one wasn't even that long ago. And yes, CDU and SPD can and will do that again, if only due to the lack of alternatives. Like, again, this isn't the US

[fossil basin]

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2025/02/113_392845.html

only a survey of 1006 people 18 and older, but it being that close worries me

[blazing depot]

Ah yes

If anyone was dumb enough thinking when this fuckface said if they lost he'd take personal consequences he meant quitting... well

[pale flower]

What does that translate to?

[blazing depot]

Bro is gonna "save the FDP by becoming their leader" ✨

[pale flower]

💀

[marsh oracle]

Honestly i think this is a great idea

Keep the party irrelevant for as long as possible

[blazing depot]

Fair

[marsh oracle]

Habeck leaving and esken staying is also politics in a nutshell

[blazing depot]

Yeeeeeah...

[last eagle]

meanwhile ye
https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/888190-kanye-west-antisemitic-cryptocurrency-swasticoin-hip-hop-news

[valid magnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/A7jgwa3cl2g?si=n2KDGO6UNmwu-Zen whenever i see Kanye news I just think of this

Attention seeking loser fits

[last eagle]

true

[supple dragon]

those colors look scary

[blazing depot]

It's fiiiiiiine

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1894068608294093062 7d chess moves

[supple dragon]

Worse than China

[fossil basin]

"Republicans against Trump" lol

Does not change how horrible this is

[half heath]

so does this do anything?

[marsh oracle]

Oh of course not

Its like those 50 or so resolutions condemning israel

[pale flower]

The UN security council is the one that has more "power" to it but the vetoes still make it obsolete most of the time

[hoary charm]

useless when russia is on said council

[supple dragon]

oui
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWMpiEZ1XJw

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/kinsellawarren/status/1894361833982591151?t=ismo_Nxc1ismc23yGhaymg&s=19

Warren Kinsella (@kinsellawarren) on X

If you need evidence that Trump is mentally defective, this is it. On the *same day* he says he will hit Canadian oil with crippling tariffs, he says he wants a pipeline built...for Canadian oil.

He's deeply, deeply stupid.

X · Feb 25, 2025, 12:20 PM

Tfw

[dreamy ledge]

remember
#1042073107554381864 message

[hoary charm]

new ai benchmark just dropped https://x.com/anthropicai/status/1894419011569344978

Anthropic (@AnthropicAI) on X

A few researchers at Anthropic have, over the past year, had a part-time obsession with a peculiar problem.

Can Claude play Pokémon?

A thread:

X · Feb 25, 2025, 4:07 PM

[toxic spoke]

can’t even find the pokemon center agi is never coming

[hoary charm]

https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1894245626851852375

near (@nearcyan) on X

X · Feb 25, 2025, 4:38 AM

i trust the lil guy will figure it out

[vital needle]

Finally, after taking my job ai will free me from having to play videogames as well

Imagine if they tried doing that with league instead of pokemon and the bot either deletes itself or becomes a nazi like that one microsoft chatbot

[dreamy ledge]

https://fxtwitter.com/dexerto/status/1894452203294789872

🤖

[last eagle]

they aware

[hoary charm]

the context there is that both sides were programmed to speak in that specific way

its called ggwave

[hoary charm]

he made it out of viridian forest

agi is back on

[fossil basin]

Wasn't serbia at one point similar?

Though i do not think that one was married to someone from sri lanka

Also her partner being sinhalese would explain more why she could be okay marrying afd's leader

[lime spire]

Never posting a meme again

Can't embed crap😭

[dreamy ledge]

you have to chat for a bit to earn embed permissions, which doesn't take too long.

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Rap/status/1894638306354204901?t=Z4ooDShWlv_iQhxTACtv-Q&s=19

Odd that he can speak immediately on Bhad Bhabie vs Alabama Parker beef but not for his nazism remarks

[half heath]

Its not odd, that's how fried he is. In his mind this is more urgent to address, which is crazy. Truthfully his reputation is so meaningless now, but the attention chasing keeps him relevant.

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/atrupar/status/1894616074861130182?t=x1aSSTUfcPbPDmV__78IHQ&s=19

Unreal

[valid magnet]

When will he and Musk announce their wedding

[marsh oracle]

I like how the AI cant generate those female beach dancers so they just have a beard

[blazing depot]

Maybe that's the real future for Hamas, become sexy bearded Trans beach dancers?

[marsh oracle]

Trump might be the first case of "brain fried by ai slop"

[trim flicker]

Oh my god this makes me feel so miserable

[blazing depot]

"""""Art"""""

[trim flicker]

And angry

[blazing depot]

Well, maybe stop being a woke leftist and come enjoy the golden future for Gaza

[trim flicker]

Makes me wanna remove my own head and throw it to a pack of wolves that somehow know how to play volleyball so they have some fun with it

Idk man this is just so hopeless

And fucked

cant even see it as funny

[blazing depot]

Oh, it's absolutely not,cause you know he's serious about this (minus the bearded dancers)

[marsh oracle]

Just rewind to pre brexit

[lime spire]

Reset the timeline I can't believe this is real

[half heath]

lol feels like I'm in a parody game and just got shown an over the top propaganda video

does anyone remember the ads when you would use the browser in gta 4 , or the ads on TVs in cyberpunk

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/atrupar/status/1894803496072790092?t=7_ZO7SErG14yMTrGaicruw&s=19

Trump really looked at that imaginative aspect of the EU and said "I can do it better"

He's taking our jobs

[shadow elbow]

who's the guy on the right he doesn't have a name tag

maybe it was just a free seat

[dire canopy]

is that a Sleepy Don?

[vital needle]

Willing to bet the AfD will include turning dachau into a waterpark in their agenda soon enough

Except musk will require it to be named daxau

[blazing depot]

Nah, they'd go for the much better known one that they already had beef with (true story)

[trim flicker]

I have nothing to do with that image

[lime spire]

How much more powerful does all of this make Go Won??

[blazing depot]

Please don't make nonsense connections to Loona on stuff like this, tyvm

[trim flicker]

Can't have two people doing that

[lime spire]

ok, sorry

I was making a joke about the godmother thing, which like idek how real that is

But I agree with y'all I don't like Trump or Elon either

[fossil basin]

Grimes did say she was x-ae-xii's godmother, if anything there is acknowledgement

But yeah, it would be bad pr for gowon at this point

[dreamy ledge]

holy shit. everyday Idiocracy (the movie) looks to be a better timeline

[lime spire]

What does sns mean?

[zenith flume]

social networking service

its these social media platforms like fb twt tiktok linkedin

[oak lodge]

I cannot believe

[dire canopy]

so I guess this account is Don not Bug then

[radiant linden]

You will never know

[oak lodge]

the tricksters

[dire canopy]

I mean it's not like I get to have a conversation with any of them so I guess it doesn't matter to me in the end

[deft spoke]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGkhyxEounD/?igsh=MXRjaWI5N3BubTh4MQ==

rip :(

[trim flicker]

solid theory

[lime spire]

Crazy

[trim flicker]

Oh what the fuck

Rip

[lime spire]

Could have been carbon monoxide

[hoary charm]

poor claude has been stuck in mt moon for over 22 hours now

[ocean vigil]

Many such cases

[hoary charm]

even asked for the game to be reset

[dreamy ledge]

damn what a shame, he was really great in so many movies. rest in peace

[fossil basin]

https://x.com/SASForPres/status/1895176208670953634?t=uAfAZkeoD5Lml9H8qgsSsQ&s=19

Stephen A. Smith 2028 (@SASForPres) on X

ok

X · Feb 27, 2025, 6:16 PM

Trump media is now threatening the SAS2028 account

[ocean vigil]

they should invoke trial by combat

[fossil basin]

AF Post owner is getting obliterated if that were to happen

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/KaosGL/status/1895036151012172031?t=UaoyGdFL9yrOjow60s4lYQ&s=19

Not great! I am doomed!

The worst part is there really is not a large political organization that is willing to take a stance, a lot more of people are against current president's image, scandals and reputation rather than his politics on the larger scale

Basically the latter stages of what happens when you do not have an opposition party that challenges authority/ideology of a ruling party instead of reputation of it

The code is also quite vague, in terms even so that you could argue women wearing pants would be jailed for not conforming to their gender

[fossil basin]

https://x.com/SASForPres/status/1895184533181415676?t=Dp5C_GlZZc1mY7Nqn4OVVg&s=19

Stephen A. Smith 2028 (@SASForPres) on X

X · Feb 27, 2025, 6:49 PM

AFPost:

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/saylor/status/1894373383980167567 when your fate depends on the price of bitcoin

[hoary charm]

can't be that bad right now can it...

oh

[blazing depot]

Good riddance

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/NiklasWenzel_/status/1895166334733889855 german election twt getting their best tweets in after the election

[hoary charm]

jarvis, translate

[marsh oracle]

Party head of the bsw, aka the tankie party, alleged that some people couldnt find the party on the ballot

So now people are tagging him in made up shit that prevented them from voting bsw

[hoary charm]

average intelligence of tankies so that probably checks out

[marsh oracle]

This is a kids game show from the early 2000s where they show you a path across the field and you have to remember it

Idk if tabaluga is a thing outside of germany tbh

[hoary charm]

lol

[marsh oracle]

Tweet basically says "i wanted to vote bsw but the poll worker took me to another room and made me play this ice floe game, can you please investigate this?"

[blazing depot]

Calling BSW tankies is an insult to actual tankies tbh

[marsh oracle]

Nah

I guess technically theyre more like strasserists

Putin paid populists first and foremost

[blazing depot]

They definitely don't really have any political affiliation, much less a leftist one

Still no idea how they almost made it in

[eager parrot]

was their votes almost exclusively from former east german states?

[marsh oracle]

Theyre definitely more successful there

Which makes sense since they split off from the left party and competed for afd voters which are both more successful in east germany

[eager parrot]

both the left party and afd being more successful in east germany is so fascinating but also not surprising

those are exactly the places for populists to capitalize on

[brave pelican]

if i were president my platform would be ragebaiting, crypto scams, and aurafarming

[hoary charm]

horseshoe theory

[eager parrot]

there are definitely a lot of overlaps between the left party and afd in terms of what they are appealing to

they just have completely different solutions for the problems they claim exists

well, not completely different, there are overlaps there too I suspect but I have to look at their platforms further

they should merge

maybe do national socialism for real this time

are there cases of something like that happening? very leftist and essentially very right/fascist parties merging against a common establishment? hmm

maybe to collapse a government they have worked together before

[marsh oracle]

State level left parties in east germany are also just more center left

Probably because they had to actually govern there at some points

[eager parrot]

Germany just has too many parties

[marsh oracle]

Eh

[eager parrot]

2 is a nice number, just stick to that, less confusion and everybody knows they are essentially one uniparty anyway

thanks USA 🙂

[marsh oracle]

Theres like 5 relevant ones

Bsw probably killed itself with this result

[eager parrot]

what was the other one that got wiped off?

[marsh oracle]

And the fdp is like an infinitely repeating scam for young voters

[eager parrot]

the ones that caused the collapse

ah fdp right?

went from 90 something seats to nothing

[marsh oracle]

Forever repeating the capture young voters > get into government > only do econ policies nobody likes > get fucked in the next election cycle

[hoary charm]

many such cases

[lime spire]

Who up hunting monsters

[hoary charm]

https://fixupx.com/uwukko/status/1895325202147614899

literally 1984

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/GM_Finnegan/status/1895207532614008838?t=ZokWaoYwI6JMImyBWIQurQ&s=19

[lime spire]

We're so back

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/LundukeJournal/status/1895249805338886591

rip firefox

[trim flicker]

huh

lmao

[supple dragon]

Tabaluga 🥹

[fossil basin]

People used/believed in firefox?

From the moment their trumpie ex-owner/lead moved on to make brave browser (another fad), i knew to not necessarily trust them more than one would a chromium based one, not that they are a high bar

[blazing depot]

What kind of question is that. It's literally the only real viable alternative to chromium garbage. Or was anyway.

[fossil basin]

I feel like i would choose an obscure one if i did not want a chromium based one that i could trust my data and such with

Not to shame any other people who use firefox, i also used firefox, opera and chrome generally, so i am not at a high floor, i just did not have expectations

[hoary charm]

there are no obscure browsers to use

you have safari, chrome/everything based on chromium, firefox/everything based on firefox

the only other actively maintained browser engines aren't up to date so things won't work, or aren't ready yet

[hoary charm]

i would swap to zen if it was basically behavior equivalent to arc

but its not quite there yet

[hoary charm]

theyve abandoned it anyway

not worth using unless youre on macos. windows version is an absolute mess

[vital needle]

I agree, the east did great with just one

[vital needle]

What youre describing are nazbols or duginists or "fourth political theory" folks and yes they do infiltrate parties but are seldom enough to make their own

Look up New Resistance for all your nazbol news and theory (or dont its pure cancer)

[vital needle]

One of the last experiences I remember having in Facebook os arguing with a nazi but he got offended to be called a nazi because he said "I aint no socialist, I am a National Capitalist" then he photoshopped my profile picture, with my head turned to the side, onto the happy merchant image to point out how jewish looking my nose was

Those were simpler times

[blazing depot]

I don't wanna end up on watch lists, no thanks

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Acyn/status/1895301683435184553?t=Jm-tDO51sykuNjauQVh52Q&s=19

[marsh oracle]

God hes even dumber than i thought

Tfw the party that just lost an election doesnt have a candidate lined up for the next election in 4 years

[fossil basin]

I would not prefer him as a candidate, but i would have to put him personally above Cuomo, Newsom or Shapiro that democrats are considering

[marsh oracle]

I bet you would

[fossil basin]

Not because it is a high bar to beat

It's just that if i want a media persona as an US president it'd preferably be a more sensible take haver than SAS, seeing his basketball discourse

I still think Lebron would be a better choice if he wanted to delve in

He would swing Ohio

[marsh oracle]

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1895302967726874998 this guy isnt gonna be the candidate lmfao

Acyn (@Acyn) on X

Stephen A Smith: They’re making this argument that he’s not an elected official.. Give the man a chance to see what he does…

X · Feb 28, 2025, 2:40 AM

Just another dumb as rocks media personality

[fossil basin]

I learned never to say anything will %100 not happen

Trump being nominated was also not that likely before that campaign run

[marsh oracle]

Ok let me say this

[fossil basin]

I do not think it is the most realistic event happening, but i would not count it totally out

[marsh oracle]

The chance of this guy becoming the democratic nominee is lower than the chance the us wont have another free election

[fossil basin]

That prediction I do agree with

Because i do not think the latter is a very out of reach possibility

[ocean vigil]

the zelensky trump live meeting appears to have been a predictable shitshow

[marsh oracle]

Insane

And the maga crowd is cheering for it, theyre so fucking stupid

[ocean vigil]

This will make for great television

[marsh oracle]

Russian state television for sure

Always a good sign when you have to 2v1 somebody on your home turf

[ocean vigil]

https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1895539133608763857

how is this fucking real

even ignoring the fact of musk leading the cabinet meeting dressed like teenager edgelord

[blazing depot]

"How dare you make a mockery of his Majesty by cladding yourself in this peasant's gown!"

[deft spoke]

"maybe something better" lmaooo side eye

[marsh oracle]

Zelensky reads mens wear guy twitter confirmed

[ocean vigil]

"children are being kidnapped" "but hunter biden..."

https://fixupx.com/nanditab1/status/1895524040250429888

[blazing depot]

Well

[ocean vigil]

when you let in tass reporter but leave reuters and ap outside, lol

[blazing depot]

Reuters too, huh

[ocean vigil]

bet they dared to use the internationaly recognized name too

[blazing depot]

Next step is gonna be just Trump sending weapons to Russia instead

https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1895545530069184892?t=b3XRHygciQt8tTa-TbgdTw&s=19

Diplomacy, everyone

The world is so fucked

[shadow elbow]

is the war over

oh guess not

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-hi-bye-gif-8390063

[marsh oracle]

Cant tell me this shit wasnt planned with it being livestreamed and everything

[ocean vigil]

yeah, that seems pretty clear

[blazing depot]

Oh 100%

I lowkey expect Zelensky to not make it out of the country tbh

[trim flicker]

where's that asteroid

please lord

[blazing depot]

Trump coulda just said "we're not giving any more money to Ukraine" instead of this whole 3rd world dictator levels of obviously staged clownshow

[ocean vigil]

well his priorities were:

1. Great televison

[blazing depot]

When the US turns into "Iraqi information minister" levels of meme

Anyone old enough to remember that one

[ocean vigil]

the "both sides are the same" and "trump won't do anything anyway" takes are aging as well as expected

[eager parrot]

I don't think any of those people had any illusions about what he was going to do to Ukraine

[blazing depot]

I mean, most people probably just thought he's just not gonna support them any more

Not to actively pretend to be Medvedev

[eager parrot]

I guess most people forgot how much he hates Ukraine from his first term

[fossil basin]

2. Showing "alpha maleness"

It just feels like he is just trying to humiliate everyone instead of trying to have a stable relationship

Which is one of the reasons i think Elon is the puppeteerer

[fossil basin]

Expect Zelensky, given he sucked up to him

He had extremely odd reactions after Trump won, claiming Kamala had betrayed him and such, which is odd because as much bootlicking he might have tried out of desperation, Trump would just not give him what he wanted, I am glad he also realizes it now

[marsh oracle]

When did he ever say that?

[fossil basin]

Clearly US is no longer a viable ally of Ukraine, which is fucked, I do not necessarily like Zelensky the most, but this one is just a country being invaded, it is reasonable why they might not want to give a large parcel of land

[fossil basin]

Him claiming Biden and Kamala betrayed him or him praising Trump and believing he is the right choice for peace talks?

[marsh oracle]

First one

[fossil basin]

I had read that article myself, will need to find it to post the link

It was posted in November his reaction

[eager parrot]

it's not about that, people like Trump only think of themselves, and they hold grudges long-term

the grudge here is from 2019-2020 ukraine scandal

[fossil basin]

That is also true, i just answered the question here

[eager parrot]

so no matter how much Zelensky sucks up to him after his victory, it won't matter

similar to the grudge Trump still holds against Canada and Trudeau

this is a whole new era of bizarre international politics, based on whims and feelings rather than realpolitik

[fossil basin]

Yeah that was what i had in mind even back then

[eager parrot]

Trump also values personal relations and loyalties more than any other form of politics or bureaucracy

and for whatever reason, Putin is still his homie or whatever

[marsh oracle]

This only expects one part though

Trump also has a bizarre love for russia

Couple days ago there was some report that trump was recruited as a KGB agent 30 years ago but that just seems too outlandish lol

[eager parrot]

nothing seems too outlandish in this clown world timeline

I just think he likes Russia and genuinely considers Putin a friend

but if he was the KGB agent, it still doesn't really explain how he has basically everybody falling in line with this "Russia's not so bad" line in Washington DC right now

[marsh oracle]

Oh thats easy

Republicans are morally bankrupt

[eager parrot]

it's not just republicans right now

even the damn democrats who spent the last 10 years turning into 1950's to 1980's republicans with their anti-russian campaigns and constant russia scandal after scandal 24/7 on the news are quiet

[marsh oracle]

Been a weird mix of personal ambitions and grievance politics for a while now

I mean dems shouted about all of it for 8 years and it did nothing

[eager parrot]

it's like there's a paradigm shift to renew relations with Russia, Ukraine be damned

[marsh oracle]

[fossil basin]

I need to ask my mutuals to recover the article(s) for me if they can find them, i am not a great keyword searcher and for the first sentiment i am failing to find that article, i was not reading off one of the very personalized or fan/commentator accounts, will try hard to post the quote when i find it, i do not like to misinform people

[eager parrot]

well if you are below 30, get ready for war in your lifetime I guess

like war to end all wars kind of war

[marsh oracle]

I can save you the trouble, he never said it

[fossil basin]

For second there are multiple easy access ones

[fossil basin]

I will check it again myself, just because i am morbidly curious about some quote i explicitly remember, and what might have caused it, another quote i mistook, somehow hidden or real news, or just something unrelated

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/drewharwell/status/1895547272324387078?t=C0--3ucH6IWAZGcpB6ky5Q&s=19

Drew Harwell (@drewharwell) on X

The reporter who asked Zelensky if he owned a suit, Brian Glenn, is from the pro-Trump network Real America’s Voice and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's boyfriend. He got one of the rare Oval Office interviewer spots after the White House blocked the Associated Press

X · Feb 28, 2025, 6:51 PM

Go figure

[ocean vigil]

oh, karl jobst just released a video about musk, i guess australia is now next on the us shit list

[ocean vigil]

lmao

[blazing depot]

Calling this a clownshow is an insult to all clowns

Can't wait for senators going "Idk, I haven't watched that" when asked about this fiasco

[valid magnet]

the cheating scandal i think? gotta watch it

[ocean vigil]

yep

[fossil basin]

Not going to lie, Zelensky might just get murdered

Fates of ex-US allies are not pretty

[eager parrot]

I don't think that'll happen

but he and his family will need to be relocated elsewhere before the finale of whatever is about to happen to Ukraine

[last eagle]

https://youtu.be/3bQkzxJS1DQ

[half heath]

holy fuck i just saw the zelensky argument...

[blazing depot]

Man, Ukrainians are mad. Like, mad mad.

[fossil basin]

Not surprising, i would also be

[half heath]

i kinda don't even know how to process whats happening, its wild

[ocean vigil]

Trump is actually unifying Europe more than Putin

[blazing depot]

The one upside is, Trump didn't even get his resources deal that effectively signed away a significant portion of Ukrainian wealth for untold lengths of time to come

[marsh oracle]

Baader meinhoff effect in full force today

[inland dawn]

Z thought he was gonna get another fat check but got jumped on

https://tenor.com/view/speed-dad-laughing-speed-dad-crying-speed-speed-ksi-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-1466628274697419264

[marsh oracle]

The fall of glenn greenwald is crazy

[blazing depot]

If that's your takeaway from this travesty your brain is fried

Like, genuinely

[marsh oracle]

Also does anybody watch the young turks and can explain whats going on over there? https://fxtwitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1895582568889598165

One of the biggest leftist news commentary sites been going full trump dicksucking recently

[half heath]

isnt that hasanabis uncle

[fossil basin]

Is cenk uygur even that, i always thought he was a grifter

[marsh oracle]

Yea

Opened a lot of doors for hasan

[marsh oracle]

Yes he is and those two arent mutually exclusive

[half heath]

yea ngl ive always heard bad things about his uncle

[ocean vigil]

Zelensky's twitter atm is him just thanking for the messages of european leaders after that shitshow. How long before his account is gone?

[fossil basin]

I mean it is not a wrong take, it is what happened, whatever you would be to support him or not, zelensky clearly had different expectations and got unprofessionally showcased into an "alpha male" podcast discussion

[fossil basin]

Not a lot

[fossil basin]

I just had not seen a leftist that take him seriously

Atleast since like 2020 that is

[fossil basin]

It was surreally funny to watch it happen, the same way it is funny to observe baffling and worrying political blunders

Kinda tragicomic

[trim flicker]

Yeah they been like that for a while lol

Just kept getting worse and worse

[vital needle]

I dont like cenk at all but I dont see how this is sucking trump's dick

[eager parrot]

welcome to 2025, where anything but absolute and complete bashing of Trump and any Trump administration official's position is considered Trump dick sucking 🙂

Biden was pretty frustrated with Zelensky here and there as well, especially their ungratefulness for US support, he just happened to handle it more diplomatically and professionally and expressed them in private.

America spent like ~7% of their defense budget over 3 years for Ukraine, very small really, and much of it went back to the military industrial complex here at home, and in return, we basically collapsed Russian economy, got rid of more than half of their entire military stockpile, got a look at their military hardware and strategies and competence, and so on.

I find this whole thing today at the oval office just peak clown world nonsense but if the Ukrainians really want to go at it without the US support, they're more than welcome to do so.

[hoary charm]

not really sure what your point is

we basically collapsed Russian economy, got rid of more than half of their entire military stockpile, got a look at their military hardware and strategies and competence, and so on.
kind of a moot point when the war is still going and the current admin is doing out of their way to appease putin

instead of y'know, siding with an ally

[eager parrot]

Wasn't really trying to make a point, Ukraine was never a priority for the US, only used them to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainian lives.

Maybe the administration now has judged that it's been enough and collapsing the Russian federation isn't really a good thing. I don't know. Maybe Trump just really likes Putin. Either way, there's nothing the average American citizen can do, people already voted this administration and the GOP into power fully being aware of their stances on Ukraine and international policing/interference in general.

Cenk from TYT in the above tweet did have a point about Europe. If this is existential, time to act like it from a budgetary and manufacturing and military training perspective.

Only Poland has acted that way in a real serious way.

[hoary charm]

europe pulling their own weight is probably the only thing trump has ever been right on

yet he's overcorrected on it way too much

[eager parrot]

That's just his general MO

but in case of Ukraine and Zelensky, it's pretty personal too. He just hates the guy.

And has no love for Ukraine, regardless of his stance on Putin and Russia.

[eager parrot]

kind of a moot point when the war is still going and the current admin is doing out of their way to appease putin
And really, there's some point to this one as well, none of the sanctions and none of the higher end hardware for Ukraine made a huge difference, just ended up in WWI style trench stalemate.

Instead now Russian economy is in full war mode

I am not sure it is in the US interest to allow Russia to be in this form, and to let them strenghten their alliances with China, North Korea, India, Iran, etc.

[blazing depot]

I'd say a stalemate is very much better than Russia just taking over

[eager parrot]

Of course, that's why they are trying to end this with the stalemate in place.

[blazing depot]

Not that you have to worry about that not being a European and all that

Good ol' American attitude

[eager parrot]

I hold a Danish passport, I was born and raised there, I went to university in Germany, I am European, just don't live there anymore.

But European defense should be a European responsibility by and large, not an American responsibility.

And if the EU really cared about Ukraine, then they should have let them into the EU back in 2008 when the first threats from Russia had begun.

Same goes for NATO.

That one is on the US though, we shouldn't have baited them with that.

Same for Georgia.

[blazing depot]

Real talk here, the US used Europe for their own gains to essentially keep Russian attention away for the better part of a century with minimal investments of their own

[eager parrot]

and Europe was more than happy to be served out like that and outsource their security.

[blazing depot]

Oh of course, but that vbery much means the US don't get to fucking complain about it

[eager parrot]

A lot of the comforts enjoyed in various European countries like stable social programs is thanks to not having to spend a shitton of money preparing for Russian invasion.

[blazing depot]

They set up that system

They didn't want Europe to have significant power

Much less military power

[eager parrot]

Fair, I imagine the same holds true for places like Canada, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. for the better part of the last 80 years.

[blazing depot]

They don't get to suddenly complain about spending being too low when that's what they wanted for, like, 70 years

[eager parrot]

Being under the US umbrella allowed for certain complacency. And the US definitely set that up.

[blazing depot]

So if the US wants to fuck off and leave us to our own devices, sure. Fine. But then fuck off for real and don't mess with shit.

[eager parrot]

IF the US left Europe alone, I suspect there will be strong incentives to make good with Russia to be perfectly honest. There's no reason for conflict, the two sides can provide each other with a lot of benefits with the US out of the picture.

Before Ukraine war, Europe and Russia had a decent relationship when it came to the economy and trade. Not great, but decent enough.

But the US doesn't want that, they don't want the EU to get the "wrong" ideas about alliances with Russia.

[blazing depot]

lbr, the current US leadership wants that alliance themselves

That's not even conspiracy theory stuff, just facts

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/IndoPopBase/status/1895305181073678395

Indonesian Pop Base (@IndoPopBase) on X

Kejaksaan Agung reports possible state losses of IDR 1 quadrillion due to alleged corruption at Pertamina.

Marking the country’s largest corruption case in history.

X · Feb 28, 2025, 2:49 AM

even oils can be corrupted

[vital needle]

You can't allow europeans to arm themselves because their cultural inferiority means they will just exist in a state of perpetual violence and war if given the slightest oportunity

[eager parrot]

That holds true for just about any region in the world though

it's fundamental, primal human nature

[keen nest]

You know what this is actually really insightful and not something I've ever thought about

Learning poggg

[fossil basin]

Combined with stolen wealth from lesser fortunate countries and mass transfer of wealth due sudden tragedies, yeah, it is an important reason, not just Russian though

At this point an American invasion is not completely out of bounds in next 15-20 years, atleast to bestow control over the Atlantic

Though i say not out of bounds, it would depend upon the share of American power increasing from current state, idk how likely it is

[eager parrot]

colonial age wealth helped Europe rise to the heights it did, but two world wars more or less wiped a lot of that off. Post-war boom and the complacency that came with it, as well as more or less wholesale outsourcing of defense to the US for many of the NATO countries, is a significant factor in the comforts and peace and unity that EU and Europe as a whole has enjoyed for the past 70 years.

It's a unique oddity, an anomaly in the history of the continent that had been at war with one another more or less for 1500 years prior to the quiet times of the past 70 years.

One could think of the current timeline as the beginning of return to a more fitting norm perhaps

and really, I should say past 30 years, the 70 years one only applies to non-bloc western Europe.

a blip, a blink of an eye of peace and prosperity.

[eager parrot]

it depends on what the US wants, doesn't it? I don't know if this country would necessarily wage war on Europe over influence and control. but if it does, the bases already located in Europe as well as the navy parked in the ports there and the submarines around the continent will be more than enough for it. but I don't see it happening unless Germany gets uppity again like the last two times the US had to invade European mainland.

and as much as the current administration seems to want to be a Russian asset, if Russia DOES invade a European Union or NATO member, the US will respond swiftly enough that Russia will not even know what hit them. They just don't care about Ukraine (and probably Moldova).

[hoary charm]

at this point im not even sure if trump would even respond if article 5 was invoked

[eager parrot]

I'm somewhat convinced the US will cause article 5 to be invoked before anybody else does

starting with Canada invasion...

the real question is can the other European countries even respond to an article 5 invocation by Canada?

[hoary charm]

france maybe

[eager parrot]

the leafs need their own nukes and soon.

[hoary charm]

i've seen quite a bit about advocating for australia, korea, japan to get nukes lately

[eager parrot]

the latter two likely could get it with a concentrated focus within a few months

not sure about Australia's tech level with respect to nukes

[ocean vigil]

you only just have to look how getting rid of nukes worked out for ukraine

[hoary charm]

true

australia only really popping into it because of what china is doing in the pacific islands

dont think theyll be getting those nuclear submarines any time soon anyway

[eager parrot]

that's the part I don't understand, being under US defense umbrella meant not needing nukes (and it was actively discouraged by the US anyway) as well as enforcing sanctions that the US-led coalitions would impose on countries they didn't like or countries that acted out of line with international laws.

but this alienation of allies is going to completely ruin all that within weeks or months, if not already, and it'll take years or decades to earn it again if ever.

maybe an alien invasion is imminent and we're just turtling up in preparation .......

[ocean vigil]

41 days btw

[eager parrot]

god help us on day 42...

nah, pretty sure if there was a deity, he or she has already abandoned us

[marsh oracle]

The reason the us doesnt have these things isnt that they spend too much on defense lol

[eager parrot]

I never stated otherwise, not even implied that. I only stated why Europe may have more monies to do this because of lack of defense spending concerns.

US doesn't have many of those socialist comforts for very different reasons, with defense spending only a minor factor in that.

[marsh oracle]

Europe has the monies to do it because europe has the political will to do it

[eager parrot]

sure. let's go with that.

general aversion to red and pink social programs + much lower income tax rate + much lower corporate tax rate + really fucked up healthcare-insurance corrupt relationship + so many other factors contribute to why the US doesn't have the scale of social safety net that many European nations enjoy.

[deft spoke]

VIVA LA EUROPA

aight leaving again, hope the mood was ok to crack a joke

have a good one yall

[eager parrot]

take care

[marsh oracle]

Nope you ruined everything

[deft spoke]

i know where your bed sleeps watch it schmali

[marsh oracle]

Good thing i will now be leaving my bed

Time to play some monster hunter and ignore the news

[hoary charm]

free him from his cage

[fossil basin]

The only thing i said was it was not the only factor, i still believe it is a major one

[fossil basin]

I don't think US have a full European invasion in mind, cannot say same about Greenland, Canada or the UK

But yeah, i am someone explicitly anti-war and anti-nukes, but at this point countries might be well off developing/possessing nukes

[blazing depot]

Musk spawned another one
https://fixupx.com/doloresquintana/status/1895614498561835152?t=GJ8-7IUQo8HGNO-thjwX5Q&s=19

At least it's not random letters this time

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/ABC/status/1895503955389452594?t=Vwa52b7UbQ_dZieV0vDSpg&s=19

[oak lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/six-flags-dancing-old-man-vengaboys-we-like-to-party-gif-4348946695206806291

[toxic spoke]

He escaped

[hoary charm]

[hoary charm]

oh my fucking god

literal shitcoins

[marsh oracle]

Bitcoin maxis in complete shambles

[hoary charm]

xrp and sol up 15%, ada up 40%

clown world

[marsh oracle]

Ah nvm crypto people are too dumb to read

[last eagle]

the ahjussis there are...

considered to be downbad for the cryptos

[toxic spoke]

went higher around Election Day tbh

[fossil basin]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1896302026746999079?t=-BOdORGXJ9-Ufgz3g81Z1A&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Kamala Harris is expected to attend the #Oscars tonight.

(Source: Deadline)

X · Mar 2, 2025, 8:50 PM

[blazing depot]

Trash movie gonna win Oscars because it put out the perfect bait for the Academy to make symbolic votes on it

[last eagle]

Jo Yuri sweeps

[fossil basin]

Which is extremely ironic since it's lead went on so far to commit herself to what stands the opposite of the symbolism critics aimed from this movie

I do not think there is a single ethnic/sexuality/identity/religious/cultural group she had not condemned and thrashed in last 5 years

Funny enough she was also a masterchef semifinalist

https://masterchef.fandom.com/wiki/Karla_Sofía_Gascón

[eager parrot]

people have given this person far too much attention

[blazing depot]

It's less about her and more about this being the absoolute worst shit movie to ever win an Oscar, much less so many of them

That film is genuinely terrible on every level, The Room looks like a masterpiece next to it

Just gotta add unfathomably terrible musical numbers

[last eagle]

would have nominated Jo Yuri

[hoary charm]

fuck, i was still using chrome for dev work

😔

[last eagle]

damn, chrome really that desperate

[proud tulip]

🔥 🦊 🔛 🔝

[last eagle]

irl streamsniper went insane
https://fxtwitter.com/scubaryan_/status/1896425792583946536

[proud tulip]

time to hire security

not that they should need to but probably have to

[last eagle]

they cancelled the marathon for good

and yea hopefully they're safe

[deft spoke]

no fr

i get marathons and its fun, but if ur known and people can always see where u at its best to just not take that risk

[toxic spoke]

Does it still let you go to the extensions page and turn it back on with the 3 dot menu?

[fossil basin]

I am surprised that people think Trump is Putin's puppet, it is an overestimation of Putin's competency

if anything he is Elon's puppet

https://fxtwitter.com/esjesjesj/status/1896029904669741212?t=_jS4f5aBnCKBCtut9T8law&s=19
kinda that...

[fossil basin]

https://x.com/koryodynasty/status/1896375969939911155?t=dJAXOQ2FfQc6xJpicwCVXA&s=19

Raphael Rashid (@koryodynasty) on X

1/ South Korea's ruling People Power Party leaders are heading to meet ex-president Park Geun-hye today, seeking guidance ahead of the Constitutional Court's ruling on President Yoon's impeachment.

https://t.co/0Sajrh2L5d

X · Mar 3, 2025, 1:43 AM

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1896436029512638874?t=0NWhX2VbCm4q41-qKHrArw&s=19

Thought the movie was supposed to be a love letter to Mexico??

[marsh oracle]

Is trump really just announcing the chips act again?

[blazing depot]

I mean... would him reinventing the wheel be a new thing?

[lime spire]

I ain't trying to watch these

I'm trying to watch

[nova holly]

tbf thats pretty normal

they charge you for the discount from the annual plan

[dire canopy]

looks like some things never change even with forging

[nova holly]

adobe sucks for other more evil reasons

unless this person is on the monthly plan, in which case lol

[last eagle]

+1 reason why you should pirate adobe products

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Liv_Agar/status/1896727853598994757?t=yPAq6Q_2lNCnzYkMGsVAUA&s=19

Going through the first term's mistake again

[hoary charm]

but also don't learn to code because juniors are being replaced by ai

[blazing depot]

Trump displaying how little he understands of how agriculture works in currentday is still funny

[ocean vigil]

He'll just sign EO for there to be more produce, easy

[proud tulip]

Canada announced retaliation tariffs? lets goooooo 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[proud tulip]

actually hes played so much Farmville, I think he knows what he's talking about

[hoary charm]

https://fixupx.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1896721553322336472 lmfaoooooooooo

[proud tulip]

hahahahah

[blazing depot]

lol

[last eagle]

great comeback

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/afreedma/status/1896661933128061379?t=GBaCA078_0E6tpt97xbk-Q&s=19

Andrew Freedman (@afreedma) on X

NEW: The Trump admin has informed NOAA that two buildings that are critical for weather forecasting will have their leases canceled. If this comes to pass, it's a really big deal. Includes weather fcst nerve center in College Park, Md.: https://t.co/MAzRvzMLrZ

X · Mar 3, 2025, 8:40 PM

If you don't know a hurricane or tornado is coming it can't hurt you, right

[proud tulip]

whatever president comes after Trump is going to have to rebuild the country from scratch at this rate

[blazing depot]

Elon will be fine, don't worry

[hoary charm]

president vance

[deft spoke]

LMAOO

[hoary charm]

im a senior and probably cooked unless i start grinding leetcode

never gonna pass step 1 of technical interviews

[hoary charm]

i can do fizzbuzz

that should be enough to get a job right

[ocean vigil]

good thing they are protecting the free speech

[trim flicker]

really cool

[hoary charm]

thank you for your attention to this matter

[marsh oracle]

Glad i put most of my stuff into a money market etf

[shadow elbow]

buy the dip

[marsh oracle]

Also known as catching a falling knife with trump in office

[shadow elbow]

surely if I just buy more meme coins

[marsh oracle]

Wonder if we are gonna see a lawsuit against teslas board of directors at some point

Next earnings gonna be a bloodbath for tesla

[ocean vigil]

speaking of tesla
https://x.com/essenviews/status/1896707423756562588

EssenViews (@essenviews) on X

First Tesla showroom in France burned to the ground https://t.co/LxNOMcelle

X · Mar 3, 2025, 11:41 PM

[blazing depot]

Good riddance

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1897005291964895354?t=e37-m0Zj9gnsKTABsDMm1A&s=19

[eager parrot]

https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-panama-canal-beijing-hutchison-blackrock-rubio-d02a8439cc63d9e740e5154d4e0c56f6

[last eagle]

intereste

[lime spire]

Wilds sold 8 million in 3 days

[blazing depot]

Blackrock... couldn't they find a more evil company for the job

[eager parrot]

They already control way too many ports globally than they should...

but I suppose this partially fulfills the "get Panama Canal back into American control"

[marsh oracle]

Canada is full committing

Banning us companies from government contracts, banning all american alcohol

[blazing depot]

They've also threatened to just turn of power

[marsh oracle]

Ontario for now at least

Good for them tbh

Trumps demand is apparently annexing canada so might as well go all in

[blazing depot]

It's still amazing how he managed to make world's most polite populace so mad

[pale viper]

https://fxtwitter.com/bykatiebuehler/status/1896939554181177681

EPA can no longer mandate pollution targets for effluent

[blazing depot]

Very cool

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/MorningBrew/status/1897038075878072820?t=UgDcgDeCTxkXqiUWOjOUxg&s=19

Morning Brew ☕️ (@MorningBrew) on X

JUST NOW: US Commerce Secretary Lutnick says President Trump could roll back Canada and Mexico tariffs as soon as tomorrow

X · Mar 4, 2025, 9:34 PM

lol

Burning literal billions for fun

[marsh oracle]

[eager parrot]

What if this is just to help his friends cash in on put options and call options...

with the SEC now in his control, they can't even investigate such things

a couple of these 4 weeks apart trade war crises, and Russia's oligarchs might recover all their lost wealth from that

[blazing depot]

I mean, it very obviously is

[marsh oracle]

Idk, this trade deficit thing seems like the one belief he legitimately holds, as stupid as it is

[eager parrot]

I just don't get it

he wants to increase government efficiency and income while reducing size of government and federal agencies

and yet he's trying to cut the IRS in half??

https://apnews.com/article/irs-doge-layoffs-tax-season-0659e4b439400bf66023273f6a532fa0

and his people want workers back in office, but he's trying to sell most of their offices?

https://apnews.com/article/gsa-federal-buildings-doge-fbi-doj-aa123e9c3b12e38c8fa511c2a727f880

The newest 4D chess theory I heard at work today involved "he's trying to make America seem so unappealing, people from third world countries would think their own governments are better and stay there" although it involved a few more expletives than that.

[brave pelican]

back to this

trump and elon are like so certain that private weather forecasting companies (that use free NOAA data for all their predictions btw) will benefit from downscaling noaa lol

[eager parrot]

meanwhile Democrats: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/04/trump-congress-address-democrats-disrupt-plan

smh

[marsh oracle]

Sucks to be democrats right now

Hard to reason with people who dont even live in the same reality as you anymore

[eager parrot]

the things being done are not going be easy to reverse

[brave pelican]

trump said he was gonna lay more eggs

[marsh oracle]

They might not even get the chance

[eager parrot]

it's a lot easier to destroy the US government than rebuild it back up

[marsh oracle]

Cpac already had trump 2028 groups lol

[brave pelican]

aldi hit $6 here for eggs

only place you can get them cheap now are trader joes

[eager parrot]

apparently customs and border protection have been stopping people from bringing eggs into the US from Canada and Mexico

because it's still so cheap there...

[brave pelican]

throwback to the sriracha shortage of '22

[eager parrot]

maybe we should elect somebody who'll do something about all these shortages

[toxic spoke]

just remembered how lame these are

[toxic spoke]

yeah same here, still like $4.99 at minimum

[marsh oracle]

I dont even know what dems are supposed to do

Like all these things trump does have been talked and warned about for almost a decade now, do people even care?

[trim flicker]

Depends
People just know their lives are getting worse, communicating what is doing that is what they fail on

Understandably so as they'll never actually say shit has been getting worse because of capitalism just doing its thing

Republican messaging is brain poison but it works as it relies a lot on fear mongering and promises of big structural changes at a time where institutional trust is non existant

While dems are perceived as the institutional guys(tm)

for people to care you need to get them to care, and dems fail miserably at that, specially as their offers recently have been a lot of just republican-lite shit lol

[marsh oracle]

State of the union just another trump rally with the same talking points

[marsh oracle]

Well that still doesnt answer how you get them to care and not just care, but vote in the political mandate.
Whats currently the big progressive policy idea that gets you a supermajority to actually govern?

[hoary charm]

maybe they should get a backbone and sort their messaging out

[marsh oracle]

Meanwhile trump can just rattle off 100 made up numbers about made up fraud and gop voters will cream their pants over it lol

[hoary charm]

trump is deporting less than biden did, but you didnt hear about that until trump started

they're trying to placate two different parts of the left spectrum and it clearly isnt working

[trim flicker]

Well you're speaking of policy
I'm speaking of messaging

Sure you can message around policies but people dont really care for that as much lol

[marsh oracle]

Whats the messaging then

[trim flicker]

Bernie was popular even with republican voters for a reason 🤷‍♂️ People know they're getting screwed over. You need to actually tell them who and what is screwing them, and message around that and how you're gonna make changes to solve it

But dems have no backbone and are also servile to their billionaire donors

[marsh oracle]

People just voted for the billionaire guy screwing them

[hoary charm]

because he told them he would stop immigrants from taking their jobs and stop people from "transing" their kids

regardless of how fake that is

[marsh oracle]

Yep and they ate it up

[trim flicker]

And because they're tired of the institutional dems doing nothing to make their lives better and want things to change, as stupid as that may sound

[marsh oracle]

I mean the problem is that dems arent doing nothing

But i guess unless you take the populism pill you arent gonna be successful at this point

[hoary charm]

well yeah, the problem is the messaging

how effective do you think the attack ad about kamala supporting trans surgeries for illegal immigrants was, considering his whole platform around those two things?

[marsh oracle]

Very obviously

But whats the countermessaging?

You just pivot to "fuck billionaires"?

[trim flicker]

That would be cool but probably not

[hoary charm]

im sure that would go down well with their own billionaire donors

[marsh oracle]

Otherwise the answer is dropping support for trans people

[trim flicker]

The answer is supporting trans people harder actually

Because supporting trans people is good

[marsh oracle]

Seems like a losing strategy with the current climate

Obviously morally correct but you arent buying anything with being morally correct

[trim flicker]

They lost anyway, and they weren't even pretending to care about trans people lol

Ceding ground to republican messaging is part of the issue

They gotta grow a fucking backbone and stand on their shit
If you're gonna support trans people you do that, and create messaging around why that's good for everyone
On top of being morally correct

[marsh oracle]

I agree which is why im asking what the messaging should be

[hoary charm]

i dont know how you reconcile needing to win an election with the fact that like half the country seems to vehemently hate lgbt

[marsh oracle]

Yea exactly

Support for trans people hurt them massively in the last election because the culture war brainrot has infested most of america (and lots of other countries)

[trim flicker]

I do remember lgbt support rates fell a bit in 2024 but it should still be around 70% in favor
Afaik most of the US is actually in support of progressive policies overall

It's just hard to get people motivated to vote, messaging is the most important thing there
And its also the hardest to get right

[marsh oracle]

Doesnt seem that hard to get right, for the right

[trim flicker]

Because they can just make shit up and lie

[marsh oracle]

Must be nice

[trim flicker]

And no one gives a fuck

[marsh oracle]

Man this state of the union is just so fucking stupid, good luck world

Also these signs from the dems are cringe as fuck, either heckle him properly or do nothing

[trim flicker]

fighting back really hard

so much effort

[vital needle]

The bolsheviks won being a minority

Where there is a will there is a way

[eager parrot]

there is some sociology, psychology, even data science research behind that, you only need a certain percentage threshold to push your ideology forward and take control
one says that you only need 10% COMMITTED true believers for your idea to become the prevailing idea: https://freakonomics.com/2011/07/minority-rules-why-10-percent-is-all-you-need/
https://freakonomics.com/2011/07/minority-rules-why-10-percent-is-all-you-need/ https://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.84.011130 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1102.3931