Misc Chat

[brave pelican]

is this german marjorie

[blazing depot]

Sure, but less crazy and more nazi

[brave pelican]

something is going on in that statement of yours

cant put my finger on it

[ocean vigil]

well it says something about the state of the world that it's even possible to be serious when writing that

[blazing depot]

Sad part is, I'm not even joking a little bit

[ocean vigil]

imo she should be deported to muskland just for the date format

[blazing depot]

She'd fit right into the political landscape of the US

[brave pelican]

mm dd yy clears unfortunately

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/PopBase/status/1875258496679313488?t=U4FIBQpZWDU_Ii6DBNzrYA&s=19

Think they are a bit too late for this

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/jim_newell/status/1875258791455027430?t=7cq6T_cbOXvdu9SpDDibQw&s=19

Jim Newell (@jim_newell) on X

The pundit life

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 7:11 PM

Speaking of that dude

https://x.com/FmrRepMattGaetz/status/1875209577194783132?t=01dTEf2JqWL0s2TlKE5ODA&s=19

Former Congressman Matt Gaetz (@FmrRepMattGaetz) on X

South Korea's president instituted Marshall Law for a day and they're trying to arrest him.

Fauci basically instituted Marshall Law for months.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 3:56 PM

Who is this Marshall Law

[fossil basin]

tf is marshall law

https://tekken.fandom.com/wiki/Marshall_Law

I guess...

[blazing depot]

I suppose someone had to keep Fauci safe

Oh, they actually did get Johnson through

Didn't know you change your vote after you cast it if the result doesn't suit you, but I guess... yay democracy?

[brave pelican]

boris johnson

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1875186670972338644

philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) on X

Here's one of the AI-generated profiles Meta is testing out:

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 2:25 PM

Definitely not cringe at all

[shadow elbow]

why are they even doing this at all

[last eagle]

fake engagement is fake

[shadow elbow]

the real twist is I've been an AI this whole time an nobody has noticed

https://tenor.com/view/triples-s21-chaewon-face-zoom-gif-4282589362990113355

[last eagle]

gasp

how could you, fake Arin

[half heath]

dead internet theory coming true

[blazing depot]

I mean, I can appreciate an AI with the sole purpose of posting Arin pics

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/ConnorEatsPants/status/1875360707254132995?t=qi46Ubeg7AT5u3G1Tet5ww&s=19

[half heath]

world is weird man

[last eagle]

he even didn't know cybertruck existed in fornite even tho he himself tweeted about it

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/paularambles/status/1875271624477569503?t=sgwVuLDgmSn71XecFnZETQ&s=19

[half heath]

alright why does this seem like outrage bait. Who is buying a juice machine with single use packets... and at that price.....

[hoary charm]

no idea how "outrage bait" could ever be applied to this

it was just a product from peak san francisco venture capital times

[half heath]

See the way i see it, it's not like its some hyped up product that everyone knows about. Bloomberg found it somewhere and knew it was ridiculous enough to test it. It's not like there's a lot of ppl out there wondering about this product. But there is a lot of people who will see how stupid it is and comment on it

maybe engagement bait makes more sense

[hoary charm]

what are you talking about

the company folded in 2017

they raised 120 million USD from investors

all people are doing is be surprised at the absurdity of the whole situation

[half heath]

ahh fair enough Im wrong. I guess I just thought it was too absurd to be real too

[fossil basin]

It was real, it was old news though

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/business/status/1875494389994188934?t=ZMq88CcHwne0kytQdU32RA&s=19

[fringe juniper]

Hillary

[dusky rapids]

FREEDOMMMMM

[blazing depot]

So Biden is making sure to give one of these to everyone Trump hates

Fair tbh, it's not like Trump's chocies for these were any better

[fossil basin]

Liz Cheney was also granted an award

Which, i guess democrats wanted to go down with them

Messi being granted an award, I could understand more, beats Luxemburgman

[marsh oracle]

https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.amp.asp?newsIdx=389678

Maybe the us president can also pardon the korean president, anybody ever tried that?

[fossil basin]

I think Trump will surely take action favoring him

[nova holly]

"the president should be immune from prosecution" is insane to say as a south korean

howd they come up with that one

[marsh oracle]

I mean it says right there

Trump would be immune from prosecution for the same act

[dire canopy]

so he literally pulled out a trump card

question is if it's actually gonna be a trump card

[blazing depot]

If you're in a pickle, just cite laws from different countries, big brain

[fossil basin]

I would not want to be in a pickle

[dire canopy]

pickle yoon

[trim flicker]

funniest shit I've ever seen

[last eagle]

such a coincidence after that friday...
https://fxtwitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1875471023442948589

musk must be at it again

[blazing depot]

Ah yes, I'm sure the algorith will be great at filtering out negativity towards people of certain alignments

[fringe juniper]

All those poor White dudes for Harris

[blazing depot]

What in the world does that have to do with anything

[fringe juniper]

are there other certain alignments

[brave pelican]

no let them cook

you may be onto something

[fringe juniper]

I can’t cook like I can’t regester to vote

[blazing depot]

Well, wouldn't want all the nazis have their feelings hurt I suppose.

[fringe juniper]

oh there other group that doesn’t like me 😆

[blazing depot]

Aren't they busy with them immigrants

[fringe juniper]

Yea i'm getting deported

at least if they count my presidential vote for misc chat

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1875271122398376216?t=4OhoFAZHlcnbGfQan-H2fg&s=19

BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) on X

JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China is facing a new virus outbreak with the Human Metapneumovirus (HMPV) spreading rapidly, causing flu-like and COVID-19-like symptoms.

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 8:00 PM

[fringe juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/déjàvu-drift-anime-initial-d-car-gif-17211916

[deft spoke]

aight this is my sign NOT to travel this year goodbye

[charred fulcrum]

Nah

Nah

Close the borders

[hoary charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svX0X8qKKjg always crazy seeing videos from the same sketchy place from two different people

[marsh oracle]

Biden giving soros the presidential medal of freedom is peak tbh

Wonder if musk is getting one or if he and trump break up before that

[hoary charm]

on the other hand, the US steel/nippon steel thing seems pretty dumb from him

guy seemingly hasnt given a fuck since july 21

[fossil basin]

I think that's a sneaky anti-Taylor move

Taylor Swift had called out Soros family for helping Scooter Braun acquire her old masters explicitly back in like 2019

That unlike what Musk accuses them of, is not a conspiracy theory

[hoary charm]

what lol

not everything has to do with this popbase pop culture stuff

soros gets a presidential medal because he's a dem megadonor, thats all

[marsh oracle]

Yea he helped inject millions of microchips into almost every american, that deserves a medal

[fossil basin]

I am not %100 serious while saying this specific case, but still interesting instance

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/byajperez/status/1875985591512560091?t=ROrD-bZyB4hD5Gh_NHbfcA&s=19

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/scubaryan_/status/1875971883440681370?t=T5Oo9yVQ-dxlkirvnm9r5Q&s=19

even the One Piece artist drew him in its One Piece style

[blazing depot]

I'm sure rights holders in various countries are thrilled

[last eagle]

it will took him almost 4 years to stream one episode at a time if wanting to catch up atp

[fossil basin]

Speed is definition of fuckassery

[fringe juniper]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-pm-trudeau-announce-resignation-early-monday-globe-mail-reports-2025-01-06/

Good for the leafs

[half heath]

[fringe juniper]

His party is...... something

[half heath]

all the parties are...

[brave pelican]

are parting parting?

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/Variety/status/1875647575145267436?t=VXQVg_nE7bkIbZ9JxTZJtA&s=19

https://fxtwitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1876120445172466078?t=FEB_X-q-kjSJVluKFJyUAA&s=19

[last eagle]

Jo Yuri Golden Globe winner next year 🙏

[hoary charm]

https://www.reuters.com/live/justin-trudeau-announcement-live-canadian-pm-expected-resign-2025-01-06/

had no idea he was 53, looks 10 years younger

[shadow elbow]

I'm pro rogue myself

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/PoliticsMoments/status/1876314458102128645?t=iXjZ-qiDn_fc2j-OB4kkPg&s=19

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1876346608515694978?t=eCY_M4bIeGrB0HUR5PFy8g&s=19

[dire canopy]

another example of Idiocracy turning into a documentary

[eager parrot]

quite the photography

https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-history-photographs-b9c9d7707155a500930fd2e82cd0524a

and the contrast of the snowy frozen washington dc vs 4 years ago

some chilling stuff right there

[toxic spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/usa_polling/status/1876324004623188060

[hoary charm]

stop the steal

[hoary charm]

https://fixupx.com/esaagar/status/1876612227807236310

[blazing depot]

So he wants to pay more billions in fines in teh EU, gotcha

as if FB wasn't unusable as it is anyway

[hoary charm]

the last point explicitly says they want to work with the US govt to push back against global censorship

even outright mentions europe

[blazing depot]

Good luck with that, lol

I feel like I don't need to mention what they mean with "censorship" btw

[ocean vigil]

time to whip up those % of revenue fines

big fan of those

[proud tulip]

just block all these cesspit platforms from Europe already

although we wont be involved anymore, thanks Obama Brexit

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/billboard/status/1876617797393957012?t=GnbB_iYaMRkAGY9Ge3ol0A&s=19

[fossil basin]

https://pagesix.com/2017/11/13/supergirl-star-i-almost-died-after-eating-chipotle/#!
Quite old but odd news still

[blazing depot]

Tfw

[marsh oracle]

congestion pricing discourse has already started 2025 out strong

[fossil basin]

I think it's fair

I mean congestion pricing being fair

Atleast in areas with decent public transit/alternatives

https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1876673385662398586?t=uZls5yL-Jsb5Yl-Pr7E5vg&s=19

https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1876675689744646527?t=Pb7pxYupJOe0QzxuvQszkQ&s=19

I am quite a lot reminded of Fallout

[ocean vigil]

it's always nice when you can't commit to NOT attacking an ally

[deft spoke]

stfu

this dude smoked too much istg

[marsh oracle]

i almost forgot what 2016 to 2020 was like

[hoary charm]

this mf is on the everything app too much i swear

i literally saw a tweet yesterday saying they were surprised trump hadn't made a move for baja california

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1876681005618098312?t=JEBXMcFbr9928AEipMaGSw&s=19

[ocean vigil]

protect canada from what?

aligators?

[hoary charm]

canadians let themselves be annexed into the US
US gains 10 solid blue states
enshrine permanent dem rule
sasuga donald

[marsh oracle]

sorry but canadian votes only count for 60% of an american vote

[hoary charm]

american dei

[ocean vigil]

https://fixupx.com/atrupar/status/1876674139626360931

are we sure this is not the nvidia ai presentation still?

[hoary charm]

pretty sure thats actually not bs

[marsh oracle]

yes it is

obviously construction projects in the oceans will impact any animals living there in the short term, but theres no evidence for wind turbines somehow impacting whales

and its also obviously not a real concern since he probably wouldnt wanna regulate overfishing

[hoary charm]

ah yeah mightve been the construction of them

there was something about it here a few months ago where a project got put on hold iirc

[marsh oracle]

i mean environmental impacts not being real has never stopped nimbys from claiming them to be real

[hoary charm]

dont need windfarms when we have the egg https://fixupx.com/Enron/status/1876343167630594287

[fossil basin]

I had heard of aviation issues for birds, never for whales

i think that's why they paint tips of some windmills black

[fossil basin]

it's the "water is turning frogs gay" level of bullshitting

[blazing depot]

I see Trump is his usual cheerful megalomaniac serious threat to the world self

Great stuff

[toxic spoke]

news cycle back in business

[marsh oracle]

The governor of new mexico will have to be extra careful the next four years

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1876009477956387088?t=Wf4wZ36n9bh9i6RHOUaFZA&s=19

alexa, play selfish by yooa

[marsh oracle]

Well hes kinda right but probably shouldnt be the one saying it lol

[fringe juniper]

Lol

[last eagle]

@charred fulcrum it's about time again...
https://fxtwitter.com/normelpeople/status/1876448156302668139

[charred fulcrum]

...

God fucking dammit

Please no

Like actually please no

[fossil basin]

I am also quite irked by Zuckerberg saying fact checkers are too politically biased

I mean can they be biased, yes, it's the whole "who manages the bureaucracy" ordeal, but i would think it'd be better than overrelying on generative ai with power to push it's rich creator's ideals

[hoary charm]

what does ai have to do with replacing california-brained fact checkers with community notes

[fossil basin]

Pushing one universal agenda through app that's funded by it's trump-endorsing creator is kinda worrying no?

From however he ran meta related apps, the guy is NOT invested in any reliability in pushing news but rather crab jesuses

A blind trust should not be put on fact checkers, doing your own research and having a base-level of information on the specific topic will always be important, but there's just more sources to fact check all across the world

I do not trust a fair weather fan like zuckerberg to push an easier to access truth

[hoary charm]

facebook isnt supposed to be in the business of "pushing news"

[fossil basin]

True, problem is it is

Like it has been for a long time pushing random ass conspiracy theories

During his time Zuckerberg has not taken steps to counter misinformation on his own app(s)

[hoary charm]

you're conflating algorithms optimized for placing what people are engaging with into your timeline, with platforms being the senior editors of content posted

platforms cannot do the latter without losing liability protections

yes algorithms need to be up ended, but thats ultimately a user problem

[fossil basin]

When he is in many breach of privacy lawsuits and is also willing to not have integrity himself, i just cannot really put trust in him

[hoary charm]

so don't? that's the whole point of implementing community notes

[fossil basin]

Issuing ai generated notes on post is a bit different than letting people comment/note about them

[hoary charm]

??? who said anything about ai notes

they're just copying twitter

[zenith flume]

discord has it well

summaries

[hoary charm]

thats just the classic lazy ai implementation so you dont need to backread, not really the same

[zenith flume]

letting people comment/ note about them

you want people to manually tldr any topics discussed? nobody got time nor want to do that

[hoary charm]

its not for tldrs

[zenith flume]

something similar yea

[hoary charm]

if someone says the sky is green, community notes are there to go "no the sky is blue"

its crowdsourced fact checking

instead of having a central arbiter of truth

[fossil basin]

Well with Meta en masse creating AI-generated functional users, who do you think will be implamented to use those notes?

[hoary charm]

you're making assumptions about something that is yet to be properly deployed

[fossil basin]

I am a human? It is in my right to make assumptions especially with leading events prior

People react to events by making assumptions about them with evidence they have on hand at that point in time?

You are up for algorithms pushing opinions and promoting en masse misinformation, but are not up for actual people having actual opinions?

[ocean vigil]

lmao

[hoary charm]

lmfao what

[fossil basin]

What is going on here

[ocean vigil]

reading comprehension zero

[hoary charm]

what part of "algorithms need to be up ended" means misinformation is good?

[fossil basin]

I did not accuse you of saying misinformation is good, but that you being content with it more than people assuming something

That's an important differential do not you think

[zenith flume]

there's no algorithm being pushed here

[fossil basin]

By meta there is

[hoary charm]

not once have i said im content with misinformation

[fossil basin]

More content does not mean you are content with something, you are excusing and normalizing that misinformation by mass algorithm happens, but get reactionary when someone makes assumptions based on what they have gathered as information and do not view it as a standard

[zenith flume]

you are confusing with people who does spread misinformation in a community to an ai who just notes

thats where you should put your concern at

not an ai

[fossil basin]

To an ai who notes with inhrrent bias within them

[zenith flume]

okay what

[fossil basin]

You cannot claim ai will be unbiased unlike your "villain" fact checkers

[zenith flume]

mark zuckerberg training an ai to be racist? LOL is that what you are thinking

[hoary charm]

there are actual US laws around what platforms can and cannot curate, or else they lose their liability protections. algorithms placing shit content into your timeline is a two part problem: the users posting said content and the inputs the algorithm uses. you're conflating the entire problem to lie with one man

[fossil basin]

He did hire someone who claimed he will make meta less "woke", not too far out of reach

On the administration team that is

There is an en masse movement to make social media places more right wing than it is

[fossil basin]

Clearly it has not worked like intended given Elon's X was able to stand

[hoary charm]

what hasnt worked?

algorithms or liability protections?

[fossil basin]

Algorithm restrictions

[hoary charm]

restrictions?

[fossil basin]

I guess i got overfixated on elon's x in that role which admittedly is an outlier

But platforms seem to be willing to copy him with the trump landslide

[hoary charm]

community notes pre-dates musk

[fossil basin]

I meant as in algorithm restrictions, i know community notes in itself is not his concept

[hoary charm]

and no this free speech thing is not really copying musk but is more of a broader societal thing

CEOs will bend the knee to whoever is in power

regardless of which side of the isle theyre on

[fossil basin]

Yeah i should have specified the matter of copying here

I meant as in ceos saw elon's gambit worked for him and with changing political sphere they went to his direction

But yeah, it is not because they personally admire him, it's due greater trend

Kevin O'Leary on Shark Tank is about to buy Tiktok and has asked for Trump's help for him to do so

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/01/07/tiktok-ban-kevin-oleary-shark-tank/77511321007/

[hoary charm]

thats a different situation

but i have no doubt it wouldn't result in a better app

[half heath]

its strange how i feel more comfortable with foreign multi-millionaires/billionaires owning tiktok than the multi-millionairs/billionaires we know of

[fossil basin]

It fits in right wingification of social media places, albeit not synonymous actions

[hoary charm]

tiktok has nothing to do with the left/right polarization

[fossil basin]

The thing is, O'Leary is a huge Trump supporter

And it's putting more direct authority over social media to be bound to him

[hoary charm]

it's because bytedance must by law bend the knee to the ccp, so having a top social media platform essentially under the control of a foreign adversary is concerning to the US

just like how china bans US social media

[fossil basin]

I know the main Tiktok issue is not what i said, but it inherently becomes a smaller part given possible Trump help on his side's acquisition of platform

Kevin is a big time Trump supporter, even endorsing a possible Canada annexation vocally

One action has more than one reason behind or result after

[hoary charm]

could always just ask bill gates or soros to buy it so its under left wing control

[fossil basin]

If they were ever left wing that is

https://fxtwitter.com/PopBase/status/1876900312230883697?t=fr80tpGhyMSpj2u3A8rctQ&s=19

Elon also seems to promote annexation of Canada

[hoary charm]

barron ghostwriting for musk now

[ruby helm]

Elon proving he is down with the kids and speaks the lingo

[hoary charm]

oh god

[fossil basin]

If he has another alt where he is pretending to be a big pop news account i would be paranoid

[hoary charm]

forgot this happened

xdxdxd

[fossil basin]

Pages like popbase or popcrave, we know their owners, while not that reliabke or somewhat inflammatory, those pages are ran by multiple people we know identities of, but not elon

But could a verified pop account be a culprit, idk

Several women are among admins of those pages, so i do not think elon will be able to gather into them

[last eagle]

||https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1876770651219918956?t=glMGkkY2JOC4fg9AdxCCuw&s=19||

gpt is wild, man

[half heath]

this is like everything 2024 wrapped into 1 story

[deft spoke]

so anyone else just wanna do a bit bad mute button on certain shit here

[fossil basin]

Also damn, not looking great that LA cut fire department funding while increasing funds for LAPD

I had been in situation to evacuate a such fire just last summer, hopefully authorities won't be as incompetent, which i doubt

[toxic spoke]

Guess who #1042073107554381864 message

[deft spoke]

😭😭

[toxic spoke]

and meanwhile on his side https://x.com/afropessimistic/status/1876897760760221794

local angry blk man 🥷🏾 (@afropessimistic) on X

Piece of shit scumbag Rick Caruso is on NBC trying to use this disaster to score political points

Twitter · Jan 8, 2025, 7:44 AM

[fossil basin]

I mean i never promoted bass, i just did not like caruso

Would hold more gotcha value if i was willing to promote any californian politician, which i am not

But also, disasters should be used to be mentioned and propogandized for political points, that has to be one of the political issues

There is a harmful viewpoint where it's like "disasters are above politics" no disasters are political issues and should be mentioned as such

It's less useful to hold huge mourning showcases for disasters without any impact or change

Rick Caruso is also a huge hypocrite who also would have enacted the same steps

He was the LAPD Union's candidate and used to be president of LAPD commission

I do not think it would really justify anyone voting for him at that time

I am glad i was not an endorser of Karen Bass

I think i have the right to hate on politicians

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/2fdckpup/status/1876861000743280671?t=WQ80IYXQixgEn2o18DHmiw&s=19

Also, Yum! Brands has terminated cooperation of all their KFC and Pizza Hut franchises in Turkey, citing unmet quality standards

Which, is a fair assessment of things, they sucked in quality there for a while now

Would not be surprising to hear similar news about Popeyes in specific

https://fxtwitter.com/esaagar/status/1876610248062234644?t=a0yBTmjFuGGWzCCcQnrBlw&s=19

Yeah we are fucked

[hoary charm]

texas cities are blue cities

[fossil basin]

Idk where they are moving them in terms of cities still an odd choice to get Texas as it's not known for lack of cultural bias

[hoary charm]

not really

austin rents are falling

california could learn something from them

[fossil basin]

I guess more exploitable worker laws

[deft spoke]

anyways avatar fire and ash coming out yuh

[marsh oracle]

its tough for moderation to be neutral when reality has a well known liberal bias

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/AssLatam/status/1877040637498843570?t=iMn0phHLpMkA10DIZTdSSA&s=19

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/BNONews/status/1877089433121370596

[deft spoke]

lol

[half heath]

that's a diabolical quote 😅

[zenith flume]

chat he might be the next danny trejo

[trim flicker]

I love him

Thats my president

[last eagle]

Wildfire spotted at Hollywood Hills
https://x.com/PopBase/status/1877172411348513059

[eager parrot]

wildfires in the first week of january is wild

this is what we get for the new president threatening denmark and canada, the old ice gods are not happy

[blazing depot]

Just say Norse Gods

[eager parrot]

I don't think Canada has those

even if the vikings landed in newfoundland a million years ago for a little bit

[blazing depot]

It counts

[eager parrot]

I suppose

but I get why he's being expansionist and bringing up all kinds of hyper patriotism and manifest destiny stuff

it's the perfect distraction from all the other things he promised he would/could fix

nothing brings a nation together like new lands to conquer

it started as jokes but it's increasingly becoming more serious

I don't think Panama will be an issue though if the US really wants to take over the canal again

US owned it for nearly a 100 years anyway

but Canada and Greenland could turn ugly. Not that the rest of NATO has any ability to defend them, there's no force projection without the US

but the leafs up north are a scary bunch when threatened

[marsh oracle]

Fell for it again award being given out very quickly this time

Even i didnt expect it to be this soon

[blazing depot]

*exploited it and built it on the back of tens of thousands of dead people to then make sure Panama gets roughly 0.1% as a cut of the profits

If that

[eager parrot]

yeah that's kind of what imperialism does

not many western countries are innocent of having done that numerous times

just saying that panama has no real ability to stop a US takeover of the Canal again anyway, you can count on one hand the number of times they've had their government coup'ed by the US in the past century

in my view it's clearly driven by two things, one to control all shipping routes out of China (and to a lesser extent, Russia), and two because resources and fresh water are going to be a serious issues within the next decade or two going forward, more so than ever

[hoary charm]

wasnt there something about china buying up docks around the area?

[blazing depot]

Lmao, right

Cause Trump is definitely the grand strategist looking that far into the future

[marsh oracle]

I think you severely overstimate trump

[eager parrot]

maybe not, but this time he has a government that's clearly being run by the hyper rich billionaires, more so than the last time

[marsh oracle]

The man still thinks a trade deficit is a subsidy and tariffs are paid by the other country somehow

[eager parrot]

in case of panama canal, there's also the next phase of the construction and expansion that's coming up with all the lakes drying up inland and needing some drastic seriously anti-environmental and anti-human measures against the inhabitants of that country

[blazing depot]

Bro saw a tweet and went "Yo, Panama..."

[eager parrot]

no actually I'm not, I'm taking what he's saying very seriously and not making the mistake of underestimating his ability to cause significant damage to the status quo again

[marsh oracle]

He can be extremely stupid and still be able to cause significant damage

[blazing depot]

No one is denying he can do damage, but extrapolating superficial intent is a bit much

[marsh oracle]

Trump has never shown me the capability to have a coherant chain of thought about anything so why would i assume he has some rational, well thought out reasons for this

[hoary charm]

because he famously listens to the last person he spoke to

so its not necessarily /his/ thought out reasons

[eager parrot]

he's just the mouthpiece for expressing this intent towards canada/greenland/panama

the rationale/reasons/intents are somebody else's

[half heath]

ngl i thought the making canada a state thing was gonna die out...

[eager parrot]

no it's getting worse, did you see ontario premiere on fox news?

[marsh oracle]

Nah

[eager parrot]

that was some messed up exchange

[marsh oracle]

What else is je gonna talk about, his newly aquired endorsement of h1b visas?

Dude got elected and immediately abandoned all his promises lol

[eager parrot]

well absorbing canada would be a quick way to get a lot of h1b-equivalent visa holding immigrants

they got like a 2-5 million surplus of them

[half heath]

the fucking state of the world...

[blazing depot]

You're saying eggs won't get cheaper????

[half heath]

We need more luigis

[eager parrot]

not at the rate they're killing chickens for avian flu

[marsh oracle]

Watching conservative talking heads tumble over themselves trying to rationalize this whole thing is very funny tho so keep gping

To be a fly in ben shapiros office

I wonder how self aware these people are

[eager parrot]

what else can they do? they went all in and then actually won, so now they have to kiss the ring no matter how crazy the ring is

even fucking zuckerberg is doing it

[marsh oracle]

No of course, prime example of audience capture

[blazing depot]

They went like "this is genius, it would be his version of the Louisiana purchase!"

[marsh oracle]

The question really is just if it sometimes keeps them up at night or if theyve really brainwashed themsekves

[eager parrot]

lol I do want to watch the government of this country deal with quebecois

that would be divine comedy

half of washington dc would be driven to insanity having to deal with quebec if they try to annex canada

[half heath]

all im saying is i can already see it going to shit. Poilievre is somehow gonna win the federal election and shit is gonna keep getting worse

[marsh oracle]

Welcome to the club

[eager parrot]

I don't think there's a chance in hell anybody else would win in your election given the polling of the past two years

[blazing depot]

Shoulda kept your cardboard cutout of a Canadian Chad pm

[marsh oracle]

If you make below median wage, are lgtbq, not white or a woman its probably only gonna get worse for a bit now

[blazing depot]

Now you get yo join the "deal with this shit" club

[eager parrot]

I think of it like vaccines

every once in a while we have to get exposed to the crazies of the right

to develop immunity for a while after

same for the crazies of the left

[blazing depot]

The US doesn't even have any actual lefties anywhere near a position of power

[eager parrot]

political memory of the voting populace seems to be around 10-15 years at best

[half heath]

it would be easier to stomach if it wasn't at the same time as trump and maga resurgence

[hoary charm]

more like 4 years for the US

[half heath]

the amount of canadians that buy into american rhetoric is too much

[marsh oracle]

Yea but theres like 5 trans women competing in college sports so time to roll it all back

[eager parrot]

I would say it is in your advantage if you have a conservative government while trump is in power

[half heath]

how is that?

[eager parrot]

he seems to get along better with his kind

he genuinely seems to hate trudeau and his kind

[half heath]

probably cause they will bend over for him

[marsh oracle]

Cause trump likes getting his ass licked

So if your government is doing that youre all good

[eager parrot]

well if you are each other's biggest trading and otherwise all kinds of things partners, it's better to get along than be antagonistic, he's only going to be around for 4 years anyway

[marsh oracle]

Black people?

[half heath]

a lot of stuff can be undone in 4 years

[eager parrot]

and it's not like canada's problems and their liberal government's fuckups are trump's fault anyway, it's just almost coincidental timing

[half heath]

the constant threat of privatizing healthcare is annoying as hell

I don't want the american system here

if they want to improve it it's one thing

[eager parrot]

look, he only did blackface 4 times

[half heath]

but it seems very clearly motivated by profit

[marsh oracle]

Ngl i thought it was only once

[eager parrot]

man really liked that look for his costumes

as a school teacher no less

2000's must have been wild up north

aside from the war on terror and all that

[eager parrot]

american healthcare system is just broken, there are plenty of places were public and private healthcare seem to work just fine

[half heath]

idk about it in private but mostly ppl seemed fine

[eager parrot]

I don't get why we are so fucked up with that

the sheer amount of federal and state budget that goes towards social programs and medicare and medicaid is actually insane by any scale compared to any other place on earth

so there's a huge amount of public money in the healthcare sector, but it's all so fucking broken

[blazing depot]

By the way, re: pundits falling over backwards to try and justify the Greenland thing and... looking really, really stupid while doing so
https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1876754581792985546

Truly amazing stuff

[half heath]

wtf kinda headline

[marsh oracle]

Truman being born in the 1880s

[eager parrot]

back in 1867, democrats were racist fucks

[marsh oracle]

Amazin

[blazing depot]

You're missing the point here

[marsh oracle]

That dude got shit done

[eager parrot]

yeah the whole headline is just wrong, it's fox news what can you expect

they practically are chatgpt driven now

[fringe juniper]

still are lol

[eager parrot]

I mean... yeah

[half heath]

man lets just trade take our rednecks and give us the blue states

[eager parrot]

which ones do you want?

we'll take alberta and bc

[half heath]

the good ones

the ones you would regret

[fringe juniper]

Canada can take Oregon

[marsh oracle]

That latest trump press conference was a new high for him

So many great moments

[half heath]

wait BC

hold on

nah

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1876671669751664662

[eager parrot]

we need the rockies,

[half heath]

manitoba and alberta

[hoary charm]

i hate how unintentionally funny he can be

its so stupid

[marsh oracle]

Drip, drip, drip

[eager parrot]

he's just a master troll

[marsh oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[half heath]

give me new york and cali good deal

[hoary charm]

i've used "concepts of a plan" more than once at work, its getting bad

[marsh oracle]

Me during refinement

[blazing depot]

He's basically doing improv

He just calls it "the weave" instead

[marsh oracle]

Im saved by having to talk german at work

My speech patterns would probably be mega cooked if i had to speak english daily

[blazing depot]

You get used to it

Except sometimes you just talk English to someone and they just look at you funny

Cause there was no reason to

[eager parrot]

it has become such a mainstay of how me and my colleagues talk too, it's terrifying

[hoary charm]

many such cases

[eager parrot]

it's so perfect I don't even get how he comes up with that shit

[marsh oracle]

He yaps

A lot

Like a lot a lot

[blazing depot]

Concepts of a plan was pretty damn good, ngl. That's "the dog ate my homework" levels of excuse, but on a "he came up with it first" level

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1877192341712179640?t=hm4Jm7S4YDajFFYiRRgc5w&s=19

Dominic Michael Tripi (@DMichaelTripi) on X

BREAKING: Griffith Observatory, Warner Bros Studios, Universal Studios, Walt Disney Studios, Dreamworks, & LA Zoo are all under threat by the fires in addition to the Hollywood sign.

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 3:15 AM

[eager parrot]

Hollywood burning down is a fitting start to this new, final chapter of America

[last eagle]

The fog. is coming.

[keen nest]

https://vxtwitter.com/NewsRated/status/1877176623411126443

hey I saw this tonight

[zenith flume]

didn't california just a had a fire too?

[hoary charm]

had? its just getting worse

[zenith flume]

i mean there's always been but it was a pretty bad one this time

ye

[keen nest]

Health insurance here is a at least it's not entirely horrible. I mean you know I'd rather treatments be cheap, but at least in the scenario god forbid something does happen you can just go to the hospital and get treatment and be fine. They'll try to make you pay, but they can't do anything if you say "sorry I can't lole"

Friend got hit by a car and broke some bones. Went to the ER. Got treatment and then just told them he couldn't pay and that was that

The hospital might try to sell off your debt to collections, but then at that point you were never involved with collections so they can't make you pay either

and yeah apparently state farm cancelled fire insurance in the area now getting hit by fires lmao

because of risk

but it was months ago apparently

[marsh oracle]

That seems like a bad sign

When even the insurance company decides they can only lose money by insuring you

[keen nest]

Yeah i like scarcely read into it, but the basis was the area was getting a lot of fires previously so they pulled out and deemed it too much risk because it would state farm at financial risk or something

hey just kinda like the people getting hit by the fires

!

[marsh oracle]

Welcome to the free market poggers

[fossil basin]

I am lucky my mother is an extremely savvy businesswoman

She is not like a celeb or at top class, she just pulls diamonds out of coal for some reason

[keen nest]

99 mining pog

[fossil basin]

Doing all this while officially being disabled (hernia at both neck and back)

From 1st of January 2025, Turkey did announce forced disaster guarantee/insurance, which while good, is odd because state is trying to privatize each other sector like healthcare and education

Does not help that minister of healthcare owns private hospitals and minister of education owns private schools

There's also an odd rule that came out that is a discourse in terms of property rights, in terms that state can officially acquire someone's property despite who owns or how much it's valued, given they supply the person with equilavently valued property at anywhere else in the countrt

I wonder if there's a rule like this in other countries, i know of 99 or 199 year leases of UK

Also found out that the Turkish arms company that had bribed Lee Kyu Tae who was sentenced to prison for some months (father of Lee Jeong Myung), was HAVELSAN

https://www.meforum.org/in-turkey-bribes-paid-but-not-taken

[deft spoke]

big booms

2025 about to be fun

[fossil basin]

Also why are california having a worse time handling a forest fire than Turkey who could not even bring firefighter planes and were unwilling to act upon an opposition ruled city burning

[deft spoke]

because it isnt that easy as you think it is

[fossil basin]

I mean the turkish government had some incline to not act upon it to make ruling city mayor look worse and let their party win in elections there

What incline does US have

[deft spoke]

It's spreads so fast, doesnt matter if the US is slower or faster or is turkey is or was, these situations can change in the blink of an eye, it's exhausting to try and get this done, so my major respect to what they are currently having been able to do

I dont get what comparing this to turkey matters 😭

[fossil basin]

I do not think it's "easy" per se, but i know some things because i have seen forest fires happen, i had to evacuate, thankfully it did not burn us

[marsh oracle]

Why hasnt newsom pulled the "no fire" lever instead of pulling the "fire" lever, is he stupid?

[deft spoke]

ur talking bullcrap all the time my man can u like not yap for once or compare or bring up other shit that has nothing to do with it

[fossil basin]

All you guys are trying is give excuses for government officials

[deft spoke]

😭😭😭

istg this man be smoking too much

[fossil basin]

I think forest fires in similar climates have comparable assets

[ocean vigil]

well not everyone can understand every single thing in the universe as well as you

[deft spoke]

yeah some of us go outside yk

[fossil basin]

I never claimed this or anything remotely similar

Atleast the US seems to have deployed the military for disaster relief, we had not done that either in earthquake relief or in the fire, no orders came from government for them to do so

US has also seemt to have actually accepted help from other countries, per Canadian waterbomb planes captured on video, meanwhile Turkey refused or did not accommodate foreign help due not wanting to lose prestige

It's not that the US are actively participant or atleast complicit of inaction, specifically of current wildfires of California by their intent, but i think it's right to be confused about lack of preperations despite wildfires being sudden and uncontrollable events

Especially because they are the sole superpower of the world, and California is a rather cosmopolitan state

[rancid arch]

All these words

[hoary charm]

we can't have wildfire preparation because of woke

[marsh oracle]

Didnt you hear, they gave away all the firefighters to ukraine

[fossil basin]

It's something i am genuine about

[deft spoke]

doesnt matter yaplord will continue

[fossil basin]

It's not something i am removed from, that's why

[fossil basin]

Who tf thinks that

[marsh oracle]

I think its wild that you even feel qualified to judge the response to all this less than 24 hrs after it started with information you gathered from your twitter feed

[fossil basin]

I do not think that's the reason why atleast

[hoary charm]

he wasnt serious

(nor was i)

[rancid arch]

lies

[fossil basin]

Because first 24 hours are the most important time to respond to a disaster

One had to be taught this in disaster preperations

[hoary charm]

i wouldnt dare criticise the californian leftist regime

[fossil basin]

I wish california had a leftist regime and not one that rejected abolition of prison labor

[deft spoke]

the first 24 hours its best to go ob my twitter timeline, prepare my yap, scroll on whatever info i can gather thats totally not reliable and then continue to talk about it in a cord for a full day no food breaks no toilet break and see how they respond because i am a know it all and have the power of wikipedia on my side

amen

[fossil basin]

It's either state media, weather news, interviews of political figures or just proof of disaster

[marsh oracle]

Yea the most important to respond, not to judge the response

[fossil basin]

It's not like i am quoting random people about a disaster like this

[deft spoke]

can u not read sarcasm

or mocking

[fossil basin]

No, not at this moment

I am not choosing to not read it, when i am serious about something i just miss the mark

[last eagle]

i just... don't understand what you saying

perhaps not reading the situation

[deft spoke]

i think you miss it all the time

[last eagle]

yea

[rancid arch]

i just see hard english words and i go

[fossil basin]

Perhaps more than usual

But i do not think worry that i have of this situatuon for people there helps with my perception

[deft spoke]

like youre always talking about something with someone and then suddenly have to grab a whole different situation or topic to the current topic, it doesnt make any sense brother

[hoary charm]

damn euros and their multilingualism

[rancid arch]

stop making up words bro

[fossil basin]

It happens because i think it's in the same topic or crucially related to the topic on hand

[deft spoke]

fish and chips speaking different fish languages there you go

[fossil basin]

Granted, you are not the only ones saying this, i get the same response irl

[deft spoke]

when it reality it really isnt, to YOU it does but to the rest of us it has 0 correlation to whats going on

[fossil basin]

I know that's something i tend to do

I am not just specifically torturing you with this, i also do not understand why people do not correlate some events with each other that i think has big relation with each other

[deft spoke]

like sometimes its ok to stop and not have the last word and just leave the convo as it is, instead of pulling up with something else and yap a whole new hour about that

[fossil basin]

I am less concerned about winning an arguement and more about making my issues or points clear

[deft spoke]

like goddamn 😭

[last eagle]

this is me fr

[fossil basin]

I fear i cannot make what i am trying to say or point out not understood or forgotten about

I am willing to accept not being right if i had pointed out all my concerns and these are not relevant or untrue, i am really not concerned about proving to be right

[deft spoke]

it doesnt matter what i say, you simply cant pick up the words "shut up" because thats all im really tryna say here, but it goes into your left ear and woosh goes out through you right within a second so yk what it aint gon work😭

[hoary charm]

non shitpost: reality is that the US is complicated, california is known to be extremely litigious with its regulations and endless bureaucracy, and thats nothing to say of the local -> state -> federal level mess that can happen

[deft spoke]

and we all say thank you kairu

[fossil basin]

I think that is the case here

[hoary charm]

ive seen everything from putting the blame on the LA mayor removing $17m of funding from the fire department to california blocking water rerouting (some shit like that) on environmental grounds

but who knows cause twitter is a shithole

[fossil basin]

I think there'll be several factors in play, defunding of course does not help but events and disasters are often multifaceted

[deft spoke]

anything on twitter is just shit u shouldnt rely on in the first place

[fossil basin]

That's why i did not put total blame on something specific, that'll be a rushed answer

[charred fulcrum]

I like that we collectively refusing to call it X

[marsh oracle]

The whole fema thing during the last hurricane basically ruled out social media as news sources for this

[hoary charm]

x the everything app

[fossil basin]

I do not think concerns and questions are "rushed" especially at this moment, but trying to conclude it or create conspiracies around it would be

[deft spoke]

no need to do bro, ur not a superhero

[charred fulcrum]

And when I call it Twitter, the whole media industry freaks out

[fossil basin]

Yeah, it's just personal to me because of having seen what wildfires do

Perhaps not as personal as losing my home thankfully, but yeah

[hoary charm]

meh, institutions change names often and people still call them their old name

[deft spoke]

its ok to keep that to yourself sometimes

[hoary charm]

i still call the nz transport authority nzta despite it changing forever ago

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/therecount/status/1877076614111994308?t=Lr_bL26fAa9uL_oj2aG2Hg&s=19

Congrats to Biden for being the first president that has become a great grandparent while in job, a bit awkward time to announce it just at end of your speech about the wildfires

Gives the classic "Turkey is serious, but streaming is even more serious" energy, which, i guess at his age it's hard to tell something inappropriate or unrelated to the situation, i could have been in that place

[hoary charm]

barron needs to get off discord and fortnite to start going to house parties

[fossil basin]

That knetizen comment still had me in chokehold

[toxic spoke]

1. It’s just not a forest fire
2. Hurricane-powered Santa Ana winds make it hard to fight a fire when you don’t have air support

[fossil basin]

I think the 2nd reasonings gives me a big explaination on things

[toxic spoke]

this power is not coming back on anytime soon man

[fossil basin]

as someone not near an ocean while the winds were active at when i had seen the fires, hurricane level-winds were not near here, yet atleast

idk what climate change will cause, inland seas have happened to see tropical storms and small-level hurricanes more often, but i do not think as strong as those in american coasts

i had forgotten about the winds

[toxic spoke]

the wind this morning was insane. never seen gusts like that in my life, trees falling and everything

[fossil basin]

if the winds are that strong, then no wonder

[toxic spoke]

I just said this morning when it was like almost 24 hours ago yep sleep deprived

[fossil basin]

my bad

honestly

i am aware even winds back there made huge problems preventing helicopters to be active (different from the aircraft that were not present)

the helicopters carrying buckets of water and dropping them

[toxic spoke]

honestly fuck the power company, elderly people who need it for medical reasons just have zero help in a situation like this

I think they give rebates but good luck working it grandpa!

seriously just feel awful people losing their lives and homes and nothing they can do about it

I know people who had to fight tooth and nail to keep their fire insurance

[hoary charm]

the overhead photo of that burned down palisades neighbourhood is insane

looks like an actual warzone

[toxic spoke]

my friend went to high school there for a year and that’s where it started, his parents’ home is currently under evacuation, then a fire started where he currently lives too. so awful

I texted him before it even reached 1000 acres wishing his fam the best because it was headed their way

[hoary charm]

😔

[fossil basin]

turkish nationalists are taking the moment accusing people wanting help from wildfires to be traitors because no "help USA" tags are made as opposing to help Turkey tags made due government's inaction

accusing people that were afraid of wildfires as "ruining country's reputation"

that's something i had predicted they'd do

[toxic spoke]

nothing to be ashamed about it’s just the climate conditions of the area, but sure we can call out government inaction even though they had all the ability to make resources available

[fossil basin]

Like, even the US are taking foreign help, they do not need to make help USA tags because USA does not reject foreign support

[fossil basin]

also with the salt water discourse,interesting thing is, ocean water was largely used to extinguish the fire here in Turkey

There were regular trips of helicopters on video and even those i had seen, getting water from the sea and dropping the water after on burning trees, of course it's not ideal, especially with the salt content possibly damaging equipment and also damaging environment, but i guess it's better than nothing

The stronger winds in california would also likely make it harder to use the bucket helicopters

It's also that people seem to think firefighters has less methods to fight fires than they do, that creates such discourse

https://fxtwitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1877478423246848010?t=ZnKXnoQkWy9MvEiob3OJIg&s=19

[half heath]

https://i.redd.it/dydlmma2j0ce1.jpeg

this is kinda hilarious

[last eagle]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1877461255759298610?t=TvT7ewXo5wxcd5M03hq_og&s=19

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) on X

TikTok confirms it will shut down in the US on January 19 unless the Supreme Court strikes down or postpones the law forcing it to be sold

(via @CBSNews)

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 9:03 PM

and we cheered

[near jetty]

all good things come to an end

[eager parrot]

and suddenly, without warning or explanation, a lot of kids discovered VPNs

insta reels and yt shorts about to skyrocket too

[livid frigate]

save tiktok

president trump, you can't take away my tiktok

[near jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-gif-3348052254980566268

[marsh oracle]

apparently the bad things do too

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/jens_schwaab/status/1877425530871361599 the space seems to have gone well

[blazing depot]

She has a red "Make Germany great again" cap on a shelf, she's just a big fan

[eager parrot]

who is this

[fringe juniper]

again

[eager parrot]

third time's the charm

or ... 4th r... time

[fringe juniper]

You're [word that rhymes with right]

[blazing depot]

AFD leader

[eager parrot]

Elon Musk really doesn't seem like the type that would subscribe to that kind of ideology though, I don't get why he's throwing his hat into that

this is just his high from powertripping during US elections

[blazing depot]

This has gotta be sarcasm

[eager parrot]

no I mean that genuinely, he's too ADHD for him to be ultra right wing outside of memes

he fucked up the US

now he wants to see if he can do it elsewhere

I don't think he genuinely subscribes to 4th Reich types like AfD

he's trying to do it to Canada, Germany, UK, etc.

if he's anything, he's an accelerationist

[trim flicker]

man he's constantly agreeing with white supremacists on Twitter

[marsh oracle]

The steelman for his intelligence is that hes trying to destabilize governments around the world

[trim flicker]

😭

[blazing depot]

Bro routinely re-tweets neonazis (not even the ones pretending not to be, the openly nazi nazis)

[marsh oracle]

I personally think hes just dumb as shit

[eager parrot]

yes but that's very inconsistent with how he was before he bought Twitter

[trim flicker]

Yes

[eager parrot]

so this seems like deliberate sabotage

[trim flicker]

He's also an idiot

[marsh oracle]

We call that morally lucky

[trim flicker]

And a divorce dad

[blazing depot]

Before he bought Twitter Twitter would have banned him for that

[trim flicker]

Those do tend to change a lot after divorce

[blazing depot]

Which one

[marsh oracle]

He arrived at his old positions out of luck and then got sucked down the nazi rabbit hole cause he didnt actually believe in anything with conviction

[eager parrot]

maybe, he did go on to have kids with 3 other women after his first wife

as far as we know anyway

[marsh oracle]

He also disowned his trans daughter

[eager parrot]

I think his first son rejecting him did more than the divorce

[blazing depot]

Doesn't he have at least 8 kids

[eager parrot]

right, trans daughter forgot about that

[blazing depot]

That we know of

[marsh oracle]

Elon trying to talk technical when he took over twitter was the final nail in the coffin for me

The man is fucking stupid

[eager parrot]

either way I don't know what Germany, UK, etc. will do about him, he's basically saying whatever he wants now and projecting that worldwide with constant coverage, the same way Trump gets covered, and now they're attached at the hip for the time being

outside of outright banning Twitter and full censorship of any of the things he says or does

and now zuckerberg's in bed with him for the free speech stuff

[blazing depot]

Well, he can say whatever he wants, but you better believe lawmakers are closely observing whether he crosses legal lines

For instance, bro can't funnel infinite money (or any money, really) to the AfD like he's doing in Britain with Farage's party

[eager parrot]

because the legal system does such a good job of stopping megalomaniacs?

color me skeptical

but at least from a financial aspect he could be stopped in Germany

[blazing depot]

We're a whole lot better at that than the US is, sorry

We actually learned that lesson

[marsh oracle]

Him turning around and fucking over farage was pretty funny

[keen nest]

god I love getting this advertisement from twitter to try out their ai image generation 4 fucking times today

I'm in support of ai, but also getting it shoved in my face like this case is where I'm like "please fuck off"

[last eagle]

the only thing i love from ai is the bg remover

nonelesss, fuck ai

[brave pelican]

why is grok spamming

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1877510398661784049?t=wThqhJOb1Hhj1d7IwhOmZA&s=19

Pop Base (@PopBase) on X

The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to delay Donald Trump’s sentencing in his hush money case.

He will be sentenced Tomorrow.

Twitter · Jan 10, 2025, 12:18 AM

[fossil basin]

Why are some people happy or feeling like having taken revenge due LA burning?

Maybe it's because i had also seen what wildfires bring, but it just feels... heartless

[hoary charm]

because politics

[fossil basin]

I am a heavily political person, i also would like people to not suffer en masse

Increasing unstability and harshness of a supposed median climate like mediterrenean ones do worry me a lot

While wildfires are common to the climate

My mother points out about the climate that it was not like this

[vital needle]

Honestly more countries should ban twitter and meta and free their populace of the slop machines

China had the correct idea all along

As usual

[keen nest]

yeah that's cringe

Wishing harm on people is kinda wild

even more so over politics

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/PopBase/status/1877665954479460760?t=AgooGo4dxca4tAfo_CX3cQ&s=19

[fossil basin]

Eh... I could find some people that really a lot of people would not mind wishing harm upon, especially due their politics

My issue is more so upon ill will towards a mass of population

I am not going there hoping that a whole area of people gets harmed or eradicated

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/jason_koebler/status/1877460823045493005?t=FL7v64LV4ErAecc4kPpmvQ&s=19

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/billboard/status/1877754494718521576?t=Xh881CUR2sl-UP9BEWTPhg&s=19

[eager parrot]

https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-maduro-green-beret-jordan-goudreau-6f312dcde47c5da6cf7a54aef8ccdd7e

Netflix/Amazon Prime movie/miniseries on this when

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/01/only-5-percent-of-us-car-buyers-want-an-ev-according-to-survey/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/meta-kills-diversity-programs-claiming-dei-has-become-too-charged/

[hoary charm]

probably a lot more of that to come

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/ethelfiles/status/1877876535761223880?t=GIBYpiLh5CPeqKfVuhUY2Q&s=19

https://fxtwitter.com/ethelfiles/status/1877876701864034758?t=QQDE9_i_5uoqyvaWDS91dw&s=19

My personal opinion is that whatever one agrees or not, one thing is certain which is that i am worried for possible upcoming attempts at her life, given that it's something that'll put one in a hitlist or a watchlist, and she has some level of prominence to having been in an Obama playlist once

[eager parrot]

this is just 2009-2011 occupy talking points

which were in turn 1980's recession talking points

which in turn were 1950's post-war talking points

which in turn were Bolsheviks and Nazi talking points

and so on and on and on

nothing new, she won't get vanned for that kind of talk

it's just the "common man vs. elites" eat-the-rich theme of populism. with a zoomer twist

[eager parrot]

there are very few events that truly shake said "elites" to their core

the recent health insurance ceo assassination being one of them

[deft spoke]

ethel cain stream perverts

[fossil basin]

Counter could be applied in the acc as well

in many countries it's "you believe in firebombing a walmart? That pales in effectiveness to my strategy, winning elections" and then not win elections

It happened in a lot of countries with a center-adjacent oppositions, it clearly happened in Turkey, when opposition asked people to not protest and just be there to vote as ultimate response

[eager parrot]

I don't quite process that

[deft spoke]

dw nobody does

[hoary charm]

thats just another way of wording the screenshot, just from a slightly more center position on the political spectrum

considering the way global elections have gone over the last couple years

[fossil basin]

It's the cycle of center not giving out promises public expected, and right making people's lives worse

[deft spoke]

welcome to planet earth same shit different day

[fossil basin]

I get the point equating the large threats as "the final warning from china", it's funny

But unlike the op of that account it'd be dangerous to pretend the reverse is not also true

[eager parrot]

does China really make that many threats? the meme nowadays is Putin threatening nukes for the nth time.

expecting politicians to make lives better is a naivety one moves on from with age, won't take long

[hoary charm]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning

[eager parrot]

lol I see, there's a hint of deep irony in that one

[fossil basin]

Yeah exactly what i meant

Not saying this out of irony, it's the reference i wanted to give

[eager parrot]

no no I meant that with respect to what I said about putin and nukes lol

given this is a russian idiom

[fossil basin]

Yeah true

It's just what the term is named after

[eager parrot]

I guess I just hadn't encountered it before

[brave pelican]

what bruh

i see similar ig stories of my own mutuals this is nothing that would warrant that 😭

plus its ethel cain

[deft spoke]

what a queen

[fossil basin]

Yeah that's why, she is somewhat prominent without the protections of a superstar level of fame, hence i am worried she'll be seen as a threat

I like her i just do not want her get rid of

[fossil basin]

Also Zuckerberg seems to have pivoted to pandering to alt right and "free speech" cultists now, some claims of his in the Rogan podcast are wild

I guess change on what's "more profitable" is one of the reasons

One of my specific opinions are that rainbow capitalism is better than... no rainbows at all, not a compliment of the issue, but rather existence of rainbow capitalism atleast showed there was a reason why companies and general business would not neglect some portions of queer people atleast, it's even the main cause of why gay marriage is legal federally in the US, it wasn't public approval, Obama was not for it when he first got selected, now it's going away and it kinda scares me

[brave pelican]

what are you waffling about

[fossil basin]

When you have some level or reach yet not many protections, you are going to be targeted

[brave pelican]

people have better things to do than plot an attack on ethel cain

you are just fearmongering

[fossil basin]

I never said on a mass public level

[brave pelican]

this is ridiculous 😭

[marsh oracle]

"Its the jooz" has been the hottest topic in twitter ever since the election and nothing has happened

[fossil basin]

It's more that people near alignment of ethel cain had been targeted in blacklists or targetlists before and currently

[fossil basin]

People trending such things are not historically the ones who were on hitlists, particularly not now

[brave pelican]

you need to stop using twitter

[fossil basin]

Maybe I am overtly cautious because state here imprisons 14 year olds for insult to president

But overall, the mass public information of someone with prominence and targetable takes makes them vulnerable

That's internet 101

[brave pelican]

you are just being dramatic

i think thats internet 101

[last eagle]

this

[fossil basin]

I do not think that's just me being dramatic, but you are not incorrect of your assessment of me being dramatic

It's just not the causation here

Or atleast i did not see it that way

I also have autism, (with diagnosis), i guess that also affects overtly worries/fits

[deft spoke]

its just you being dramatic

real news alert i shall try out if my cats are gonna jump seeing cucumber

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/still_boneless/status/1877526685978931293 we gotta stop the podcast epidemic

[blazing depot]

Everyone has a rightwing podcast these days

Seems to be a pretty easy to catch audience

[marsh oracle]

They can have their little podcast but why do they all have to compete for stupidest take of the week every time

[blazing depot]

Cause attention

None of these Muppets believe a word they say

Well... Mel might, he's a little... you know.

But most don't

[fossil basin]

Mel has apparrently also lost his LA home to fires while at the Rogan podcast

He himself has said this

[blazing depot]

He's very much among the people for whom "his home" means "one of his 3 dozen mansions"

So genuinely, who gives a fuck. Has no impact on the topic at hand.

[fossil basin]

It was just news

So i wanted to mention it

Because it is recent news

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/tsarnick/status/1877856200349331521 this was also great, big spiderman_pointing_at_spiderman.gif moment

[blazing depot]

He's not one of the Spidermen, bro. He's innovating by doing regression as we speak

[marsh oracle]

I would listen to a weekly "worst podcast takes" podcast tbh

[marsh oracle]

His hair stylist is definitely doing some innovating at least

[blazing depot]

There's probably a yt channel for that. Or a sub reddit

[half heath]

Man I wonder how much attention seeking I'd do if I had billions

maslows hierarchy type shit

[blazing depot]

Re: Elon

[half heath]

I saw him pretending to be an expert POE2 player today. What an insanely giant loser with a lack of any awareness. Like it just reveals so much about him. The fact that he was too lazy to even actually learn enough of the game to pass off his lie just points to how undeserving he must really be of his success.

[valid magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-zaz17-ohhc-gif-22960731

[marsh oracle]

Ok after reading this, this is insane levels of cringe

Literally just posturing and hoping one of her fans is impressionable and crazy enough to do it

[half heath]

I feel like a lot of ppl are similar. We all want luigis but don't wanna be luigis

I find the ppl who are smug about what luigi did a little off putting. Like they contributed somehow.

[marsh oracle]

People love vigilante justice when they agree with it

[half heath]

also true

[marsh oracle]

And people also love retributive justice for the crimes they deem bad enough

[half heath]

But

I always think of the French revolution

[fossil basin]

It's the whole "would you kill baby hitler" debacle

[half heath]

It was violent but necessary.

[fossil basin]

Coming to think of it, nah different situations

A friend to all is a friend to none - Aristotle / Taylor Swift - Cardigan?

Also, on the other side of things, the mcyt drama is wild atm (i quite loathed the minecraft youtuber scene from beginning, it's one of the reasons why i became an orbit funny enough) but the point is something else

One of Dream's ex streamer friends Tommyinnit called xQc out for streaming with Trump, xQc responded that he'd rather stream with Trump than to have a large fanbase of teenage girls like Tommyinnit, and Dream being a friend of xQc called tommy's fans at large the R word

tw: ableism?
||https://fxtwitter.com/tommyinnit/status/1878028389782630740?t=HPIDm9NpFTNGidaw5DIUZg&s=19||

[blazing depot]

https://theonion.com/mark-zuckerberg-defends-decision-to-fly-confederate-fla-1826847417/

tfw this seems legit

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/Reuters/status/1878196436908818837?t=WeuPJjWvTx_0WVgEXz_l8g&s=19

Reuters (@Reuters) on X

The two black boxes on the Boeing jet involved in South Korea's worst aviation disaster stopped recording about four minutes before the accident, the transport ministry said https://t.co/yTn5qu1Ul0

Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 9:45 PM

Well... that's unhelpful

[fossil basin]

Weird

By that i do not mean i do not believe it, it's more so that why it was closed before the landing

Hopefully more evidence can be gathered,idk if they can manage to do so at this point

[blazing depot]

Just read the article? It pretty much states the most likely reason, as in complete loss of power

[fossil basin]

I know, it's more so what would cause the complete loss of power

It's not too many reasons why a black box would stop recording, but that,more unknown

I am concerned because it leads to many bullshitters claiming "birds are drones" and "it was a malicious act by pilot"

[hoary charm]

but birds ARE drones

[blazing depot]

How would anyone circle back to a malicious act by the pilot when everyone has seen the clips of the engine blowing out.

[fossil basin]

A crash with no sufficient explainations for their conditions prior, pilot maliciousness will be accused of

I am not accusing, people seem to be

[last eagle]

[fossil basin]

I am not going to accuse pilots of deliberate maliciousness, i am merely messenger

[blazing depot]

That's just certifiably wrong. Intentional plane crashes are exceedingly rare and almost never get alleged. There's been only 6 incidences like that since 1976

[vital needle]

Its fine I can do it for you

The pilot was deliberately malicious omg

[fossil basin]

The first part is true

Again, i do not in any way think it was intentional

[blazing depot]

You're making up some weird scenario again that has no grip in reality, mate

[fossil basin]

But "intentional" plane crashes gets alleged to more than you think, atleast by average news reader

[fossil basin]

The weird conspiracy brained reactions of people are pretty much real

[blazing depot]

Why would you be "concerned" about conspiracy theorists that no one with 2 braincells gives a fuck about

That's not actual allegations, it's just nutjobs in a weird subreddit going ham

[fossil basin]

Because it pisses me off that such people do not seem to take things as seriously, or as much smaller plan on some made up lie

While i am trying to find answers or context behind an incident, i am only trying to do so to gain more context within it, not to prove a global leviathan

[marsh oracle]

Finally the people are waking up

[last eagle]

no

[hoary charm]

yes

[last eagle]

maybe airplanes are the bird machines

[fossil basin]

Or to blame basic concepts on the sector as being the culprit

[last eagle]

i'll approve this one

you won

[marsh oracle]

And people are accusing newsom of personally arsoning all of LA

This is just the world we live in now

Everything is a conspiracy

[vital needle]

You mean gavin nerosom

[fossil basin]

Yeah, they are also accusing minorities of arsoning LA

[blazing depot]

He specifically targeted everyone who didn't vote for him

[fossil basin]

Which, they had also accused minorities of arsoning in Turkish wildfires

So i am not surprised, it's a classic blame game on wildfires

[last eagle]

maybe human is the divine failure

[fossil basin]

In Greece anarchists were also blamed

[blazing depot]

It's all dumb anyway, we all know it was the Space Lasers™️

[marsh oracle]

Last year around this time we discovered jews living in the catacombs under new york

Everything is possible

[half heath]

this is one of those things my brain just automatically pretended wasn't real. World is stranger than fiction lately...

[last eagle]

lmao

[fringe juniper]

So sad we are 1/1000 related 😔

[fossil basin]

https://fxtwitter.com/radarafricacom/status/1861787497249837320?t=7BjQfhzQ_quEsWMPKFKfOw&s=19

Dream's sister is deported from Turkey after beating people up

Eric Adams strikes again

[oak lodge]

mega dickriders in replies always lmfao

if anyone's got a cult, it's that faux-genius

[hoary charm]

need the elonbucks

[woven flare]

https://fxtwitter.com/acyn/status/1877518518738104599

[dire canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3lDuqPKng8

[fossil basin]

https://www.iha.com.tr/istanbul-haberleri/taksimde-akilalmaz-olay-kamerada-abdli-kadin-esinin-yuzunu-yaraladi-sokaktakilere-saldirdi-151003942

Not fake news, but idk why and how this bum's sister was here in first place

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1878206506635579493

AF Post (@AFpost) on X

Meta’s Zuckerberg says most companies need more “masculine energy” and have been neutered by “feminine energy.”

Follow: @AFpost

Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 10:25 PM

Not the feminine energy

Honestly sounds more like his wife is about to divorce him

[hoary charm]

how did you come to that conclusion

[blazing depot]

Gee, idk

[brave pelican]

he dresses like a fuckboy now and is worried about feminine energy? lol

[hoary charm]

https://youtu.be/7k1ehaE0bdU?si=IWw3T89x22n9ASV2&t=5335 the timestamp for when he discusses it

[blazing depot]

Does it sound better in context

[hoary charm]

as he says in the first few seconds of the entire ep, probably depends who you ask lol

[marsh oracle]

Zuckerbergs publicist finely crafting a new hair style, clothing style and talking points to most effectively suck up to trump

Ah wait the guy would have to be white, cant have a dei hire

[hoary charm]

listening to the ep you can almost hear the cogs spinning in his head trying to think of what to say

[marsh oracle]

Hes still a robot deep inside

[blazing depot]

Lizardpeople have humanoid robots?

[marsh oracle]

I mainly think he knows that trump is super easily influenced by people that will suck him off and he obviously has a bunch of regulatory ideas he wants to get done

[blazing depot]

They're truly way more advanced than us

[marsh oracle]

Humanoid is a bit of a stretch with that hair

[hoary charm]

imo a large part of it is just going with the general vibe shift

[brave pelican]

he is going to buy tiktok and merge it with reels

[hoary charm]

people seem to be ignoring that

[brave pelican]

everyone will be able to see your tiktok likes now

[marsh oracle]

No there definitely is a vibe shift

[ruby helm]

"Now that president Trump is being elected, I suddenly realised all his views are true and can't wait to work with him to get them implemented in a way that supports Meta"

[marsh oracle]

Left leaning people will quickly realize that rainbow capitalism was a whole lot better than whats about to happen the next four years

[blazing depot]

Nah, he's gonna go the Elon way and hide all likes

[marsh oracle]

But also, zuck would love for trump to keep the tiktok ban

[blazing depot]

I hear a lot of kids have suddenly learned how VPNs work

[marsh oracle]

Like he complains about the cfpb in that very interview while the federal government has a huge ongoing lawsuit against meta lmao

[brave pelican]

the alternatives are not great

[marsh oracle]

At least keep the corruption slightly obscure

Put a bit of effort in

[hoary charm]

wym

[ruby helm]

whats the biggest current competitor to tiktok, youtube shorts?

[brave pelican]

reels and shorts i suppose

[hoary charm]

wasnt his whole point that the government was going after meta for various things they dont even do?

[brave pelican]

my issue with both is that they are connected to their respective apps

[marsh oracle]

Robber says he didnt rob

I feel like people forgot how much shit Facebook has been involved in

[brave pelican]

i'd say reels is maybe a bit better than shorts

[marsh oracle]

Like that cambridge analytica scandal

[brave pelican]

if they improved their search function it would be pretty ok

[hoary charm]

insta search is beyond cooked

[blazing depot]

That's harmless compared to what they do in a lot of countries where they literally run the internet for the dictator / regime in place

[marsh oracle]

Well yea but its probably the most high profile facebook scandal

And even that kinda got lost in all the trump insanity

Anyway, the metaverse is going to the moon this year for sure

Already bought my plot of land

[hoary charm]

metaverse populated with ai agents

[blazing depot]

Did you get a certificate

[hoary charm]

invest now

[marsh oracle]

Well no, its on the blockchain thats all the certificate i need

[last eagle]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1878552477806854355?t=MA6BWn7_sUqnykDzsIf92A&s=19

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) on X

Instagram is now randomly showing users AI-generated images of themselves

“Used Meta AI to edit a selfie, now Instagram is using my face on ads targeted at me"

(via @404mediaco)

Twitter · Jan 12, 2025, 9:19 PM

now this is as worse as tiktok brainrot addition

[keen nest]

[fossil basin]

%100 agreed

[haughty steppe]

Just read the Neil Gaiman article and I legitimately feel sick now

[half heath]

saw it this morning too

evil bastard

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1878900753676595412?t=ELGIjxd4MKseD4KZDp8A4Q&s=19

Fifty Shades of Whey (@davenewworld_2) on X

The US is banning TikTok, so tens of millions of people migrated to a Chinese-owned platform.

It's currently charting at #1.

Americans are literally learning Mandarin and voluntarily giving all their data directly to China.

Twitter · Jan 13, 2025, 8:23 PM

[half heath]

someone walk me through how china would use this data maliciously since ppl are so concerned

[brave pelican]

i downloaded xhs

the app is a bit slow for me but so far its not bad

[marsh oracle]

Tiktok data? Mostly algorithm tweaks i would imagine

[half heath]

tweak to show what though? Like propaganda? Misinformation? Arent US social media already doing that?

[marsh oracle]

I mean twitter 100% is nowadays lol

But yea tiktok is an insane vehicle for misinformation

Like that one week last year where everybody found out osama bin laden was secretly the good guy all along

[last eagle]

i wonder what makes tiktok... a dangerous spy app

who made that conspiracy

[hoary charm]

Chinese companies are beholden to the wishes of the ccp -> people believe anything they see on tiktok -> ccp uses it to push propaganda and division to destabilise the US -> ??? -> profit

[toxic spoke]

because the parent company is bytedance headquartered in China which presents a government backdoor
not much different from Tencent owning companies

[marsh oracle]

the difference is the kind of data tiktok has as a social media app

[toxic spoke]

having government employees stay off Chinese social media is probably a good idea as an adversary

[marsh oracle]

canada, i am afraid youre cooked

your next prime minister is doing the "gold is a hedge against inflation" meme

its so interesting how money printing is like the main bad guy for anything in north america

actually nvm, i was gonna say its not as much in europe but we just talk about it differently lol

blaming housing prices on governments printing money should just jettison you into space immediately when running for office

[hoary charm]

easiest thing to point to probably

[valid magnet]

As a fan of his work i have no words

[near jetty]

rednote or little red book or xhs or whatever is a wonderful app after you get past the phone number verification which takes like 12 hours to send

[livid frigate]

It’s okay I broke that part of it

And now I won’t get to verify for like the next week

[brave pelican]

i got a code after a couple minutes waiting

[vital needle]

Yeah but reddit told me to hate everything related to china

[blazing depot]

I mean... several things can be bad at the same time.

China bad,US bad, Russia very bad

The list goes on

[marsh oracle]

very subtle naming at least

wonder how many openly gay influencers exist on that app

[fossil basin]

quite some apparently

i had seen some, not had it but from screenshot

it's not like meta/x aren't moving to censor/oppress openly queer people soon