we dont mean this in any racist way but australians are pissed at the government for letting way too many immigrants in during 2023/2024
#Misc Chat
pastel shale
hoary charm
i see i see
pastel shale
we tried to stabilise our economy short term by bringing in workers, but that obviously backfires in the long run for a country like australia
pale flower
Greatest political movement in the country, he says...
haughty steppe
Golly gee Christmas came early this year I get covid and Donald trump
hoary charm
😔
pale flower
Just like 2016-2020
pastel shale
seems like the projections in harris winning the 4 big midwest states was a huge red herring
fringe juniper
Just like the Hillary one
pastel shale
history is funny that way
fringe juniper
fossil basin
We might be even more fucked thsn america
pastel shale
where are you located?
fossil basin
turkey
pastel shale
oh...
fringe juniper
I love Alaska. Wanna move there and live in the wilderness
hoary charm
why, trump likes erdogan
fossil basin
why, trump likes erdogan
I mean overall political situation
Being fucked is not solely "not being invaded"
pale flower
This speech is not ending anytime soon huh
blazing depot
As a sidenote, Twitter is gonna become even more unusable now as well. 
fossil basin
We have been quite over, 20+ years and no useful opposition that is not aligned near the government
inland dawn
I love Alaska. Wanna move there and live in the wilderness
I did until I saw the shit that be popping in the wilderness
fossil basin
This man has been in charge in some position even before i was born
hoary charm
that mf barron tall as fuck
pale flower
LOL and Melania still does not want a kiss
fossil basin
(he was vp back then, back then we had vps)
blazing depot
I love Alaska. Wanna move there and live in the wilderness
At that point just move to Canada, free healthcare
pale flower
This dude barely remembers his kids' names
fringe juniper
I did until I saw the shit that be popping in the wilderness
If Dicaprio can survive a bear so can i
fossil basin
I blame Moo Deng
marsh oracle
Melania probably hates that she has to do another 4 years of this
fringe juniper
At that point just move to Canada, free healthcare
I already have free healthcare
blazing depot
Melania probably hates that she has to do another 4 years of this
She absolutely does
ocean vigil
Melania probably hates that she has to do another 4 years of this
she'll just outsource it
hoary charm
ivanka bailed on a lot of the campaign a while ago too so shes probably not too pleased either
marsh oracle
Ivanka pivoted to lifestyle business influencer
eager parrot
At that point just move to Canada, free healthcare
they have their own reckoning coming up soon, not sure the free healthcare will survive
inland dawn
If Dicaprio can survive a bear so can i
It was supernatural shit like oh hell nah😭 I rather deal with people doing burnouts and jumping through the backyard from a police chase than some fucking weird animal lmao
pale flower
Enemy camp lmao
fossil basin
I should start learning chinese
fringe juniper
It was supernatural shit like oh hell nah😭 I rather deal with people doing burn...
supernatural stuff seems cool. imteresting is more important to me than scary
inland dawn
I should start learning chinese
Go for it, they’ll probably start buying companies there
pastel shale
wonder if it wouldve been better if trump really was assassinated
fossil basin
I was trying to learn german, due engineering undergraduate, but unsure if chinese would be more useful now
dense lark
doomed country
pale flower
"he's turned out to be a good choice"
fossil basin
wonder if it wouldve been better if trump really was assassinated
The tokyo toni gif:
dense lark
but tbh it's not just America
pale flower
(about JD Vance)
blazing depot
wonder if it wouldve been better if trump really was assassinated
That is something that we legally can't answer here
pale flower
America is just a few years ahead of the rest of us
dense lark
right wing ideology is on the rise everywhere
pale flower
Yep
inland dawn
Trump can do the craziest shit and pull a Steel Ball Run race
dense lark
I don't have high hopes for our next general election
fossil basin
I do not think legal conditions matter anymore in politics
The guy who should not have had the right to run in a race won
fringe juniper
The character "Sandman" was actually based on me
pastel shale
I don't have high hopes for our next general election
every commonwealth country is just fucked
inland dawn
<a:valentinewalk:1098797207060226170>
DOYJAAAAA
haughty steppe
wonder if it wouldve been better if trump really was assassinated
Yes
fossil basin
But also, we have a president who faked his uni degree, so he would not have been able to run either in normal conditions
marsh oracle
Time for liberal democracies to grow up and start attacking the anti democratic parts in their country
dense lark
that nasty man
fossil basin
Time for liberal democracies to grow up and start attacking the anti democratic ...
Yeah... But unsure if they will be dared to do that
marsh oracle
Stop letting them dominate news cycles with bullshit over and over again
dense lark
bought twitter just to use it as a political platform
even when it comes to countries he had no involvement with
pale flower
Now he's talking about the rocket hug again
inland dawn
Elon is secretly Mr.Steel
pastel shale
Stop letting them dominate news cycles with bullshit over and over again
unlikely until rupert murdoch is put 6 feet under
fossil basin
Stop letting them dominate news cycles with bullshit over and over again
And actually position against them instead of inviting them in
dense lark
trump was literally a terrible president last time and his weird cult following got him reelected again
valid magnet
So has he won?
pale flower
203/218 for the republicans in the house so far?
valid magnet
My American friends are losing their mind
eager parrot
Harris only up by single digits in New Jersey.
and in New York City performed the worst any Democrat presidential candidate has since Dukakis...
pastel shale
it's looking really grim for the house too
marsh oracle
Yea he won
dusky rapids
at least trump can't contest/win in 2028 amirite
valid magnet
Wow
pastel shale
at least trump can't contest/win in 2028 amirite
if we're still alive by 2028 sure
inland dawn
dense lark
can mail-in ballots not save her
dusky rapids
if we're still alive by 2028 sure <:vivikek:482987254151774208>
you'll be
pale flower
at least trump can't contest/win in 2028 amirite
Unless he gets rid of the rule that prevents him from it
fossil basin
at least trump can't contest/win in 2028 amirite
He might if he passes legislation for term limits
marsh oracle
can mail-in ballots not save her
Extremely unlikely
valid magnet
That country is ruined
eager parrot
he can't, that needs a constitutional amendment
pale flower
Mentioning Helene now
marsh oracle
The Mail ins have more reps this time
fossil basin
he can't, that needs a constitutional amendment
Yeah, he might do thst
haughty steppe
trump was literally a terrible president last time and his weird cult following ...
You'd think a convicted felon wouldn't win
eager parrot
he needs 2/3rd of both house and senate and 3/4th of the states for that
pale flower
"I said, what's Star Link"
pastel shale
as evil as trump is, he's not putin
dense lark
now we all get to watch our respective leaders play best friends with trump
pastel shale
very unlikely he changes the constitution
pale flower
True
dense lark
I mean that's a low bar
pastel shale
very, very unlikely
valid magnet
It just shows how much this country is still ruled by the far right
eager parrot
always has been
pale flower
So many criminals as world leaders rn
eager parrot
and they're all friends
pastel shale
It just shows how much this country is still ruled by the far right
the confederates never left
no offense any texans or floridians
dense lark
elon injected himself in uk business to push his far-right agenda as well earlier this year
it's just sad
why are we going backwards
blazing depot
Ted Cruz got reelected as well, can't have anything
marsh oracle
Inflation
fossil basin
Ted Cruz got reelected as well, can't have anything
Marjorie also
blazing depot
There was never a chance she'd lose in her district
valid magnet
I am sorry Americans
dense lark
I can't even insult americans for this bc people here would do the same and almost did with reform uk
pale flower
I almost feel like the Americans should be apologizing instead LOL
dense lark
we're next in 5 years
oblique shore
can you feel the love tonight
pastel shale
i guess north korea's gonna be officially recognised as a nuclear state now
wont change anything but still sucks
marsh oracle
Eh 5 years is a long ass time
pale flower
1930s Germany elected someone because of economics too, right?
rancid arch
People over here keep voting for the racist side but they never win
fossil basin
1930s Germany elected someone because of economics too, right?
Not really, hindenburg gave hitler vp position
Not vp, chancellor
marsh oracle
The uk already had their inflation-fucks-the-incumbent election
blazing depot
There's a couple regions where shit will hit the fan even more because of this. Ukraine comes to mind, [BANNED TOPIC] and yes, North Korea
pale flower
Yeah agreed
dusky rapids
maslow's hierarchy of needs, or something
fossil basin
It's just very easy to gather votes with religious nationalist movements against a center-adjacent movement
blazing depot
Hell, China might even join the club and go try and grab Taiwan finally
eager parrot
ukraine war will get wrapped up just in time for iran war
pale flower
I'll say people here think Trump will be good for Israel but there's also rumors that Trump hates Bibi and we know he likes his revenge
marsh oracle
The problem is still that biden did everything he could about the economy and trump will do fuck all if not make it worse again
eager parrot
trump or harris, bibi needs to go anyway
pastel shale
Hell, China might even join the club and go try and grab Taiwan finally
taiwan is way too important for the us, and if there's ONE redeemable factor about trump is that he keeps the ccp in check more than the dems do
marsh oracle
But the information environment is too terrible for voters to realize
pastel shale
thats the one reason why koreans liked him back in 2016
blazing depot
The problem is still that biden did everything he could about the economy and tr...
1000% tariffs are good for the world economy, wdym
pale flower
trump or harris, bibi needs to go anyway
True but the latter would've been better to keep him in place
marsh oracle
Oh israel is about to blow up some iran nuclear program facilities
fossil basin
pale flower
He literally fired our minister of defense this past night, over politics
eager parrot
to be fair, the man didn't start a war the last time he was in office, and technically ISIS as a land caliphate was finished under his term so maybe we won't get WWIII after all (unless Germany gets other ideas again)
pastel shale
germany: third times the charm
fringe juniper
Germany smh
pale flower
Russia is gonna have free reign though
marsh oracle
This trump war talking point is so dumb, respectfully
Man literally assassinated foreign generals
eager parrot
Russia is gonna have free reign though
nah I feel like Russia will solidify their gains in Ukraine but won't go past that as a sort of concession to Trump
blazing depot
Man literally assassinated foreign generals
What, himself?
Bro got more skills than expected
pale flower
I disagree respectfully LOL
eager parrot
Man literally assassinated foreign generals
I thought you didn't like terrorists, the man was a terrorist after all, the head honcho of terrorists in fact
keen nest
american sniper 
blazing depot
nah I feel like Russia will solidify their gains in Ukraine but won't go past th...
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
pale flower
I see no reason for a Russian concession of any sort
ocean vigil
Bro got more skills than expected
he just forced them to listen to the weave for two days straight
marsh oracle
I thought you didn't like terrorists, the man was a terrorist after all, the hea...
I dont make the trump didnt start wars talking point
keen nest
hey election trending here too
marsh oracle
Ok then neither did biden
pale flower
Speech over now
marsh oracle
pale flower
He's playing YMCA lol
pastel shale
respectfully, what's more fucked up than wars is that trump is outright a climate denier
blazing depot
He just wants to control the machines
pastel shale
we were never coming back from climate change but the rate it becomes worse is gonna become even faster
pale flower
Harris 218 now
valid magnet
Welp we are all gonna die at this rate
pastel shale
minnesota got called but it doesnt matter
pale flower
What else though? It was multiple
pastel shale
hawaii
pale flower
Ahhh
eager parrot
I think that's it, she's not leading anywhere other than a couple of Maine ones
valid magnet
How many states are left
eager parrot
MI, WI, NV, AZ
pastel shale
maine
eager parrot
Alaska, but that's gonna be red anyway
pastel shale
but yeah
blazing depot
All of which looking grim btw
valid magnet
Yeah we are cooked
fossil basin
Maybe people wanted to win their bets
pastel shale
MI was looking swingable but now it's just lost hope
marsh oracle
At least arcane releases on friday
trim flicker
real
valid magnet
Great and then all the Trump voters will cry over Cait/Vi
valid magnet
What else what else
Oh yeah they pretend that they're the good guys or smth
Like they wouldn't be Silco but worse
ocean vigil
that's just every twitter thread under any homelander meme
blazing depot
Btw, re expectations of Russia stopping after Ukraine as a concession, absolutely no one living anywhere close to that area believes any of that garbage talk, lmao
pastel shale
ukraine vs russia is a war of attrition atp and it's no secret trump loves russia
marsh oracle
The only reason russia might stop is that they run out of soldiers
fossil basin
What chinese dialect should i look into
pastel shale
the boys predicted the election trump = homelander 
hoary charm
The only reason russia might stop is that they run out of soldiers
but they have north koreans jacked up on adult content now
pastel shale
someone airdrop them entire hard drives quick
pale flower
I'm just worried about November through January, winter is coming and I don't know if Biden has the power to actually affect things here
thorny schooner
biden is GONE
fossil basin
One sure thing is kamala will be having the republicans in cabinet she said she'd put
marsh oracle
Why would bibi listen to biden now
blazing depot
Bibi got what he wanted
pale flower
Especially when we can't afford to wait for Winter
trim flicker
hey the 30 days are running out and shit got worse, maybe they block weapons for...a month and something
two months ?
🤷 very low hopes
trim flicker
yeah no idea specially with unrwa gone
can't see anything getting even slightly better there
valid magnet
The fucking guys only had one job and can't properly assassinate man
pale flower
There are other agencies still working there but yeah
fossil basin
Enshittification has become permanent
trim flicker
pastel shale
yeah other republican candidates just wont have the cult following trump does
wouldve helped swing some pretty key swinging states blue
fossil basin
Also i do not see the UN as an organazisation continuing in long term at this point
valid magnet
Who tf would even want JD Vance???
fossil basin
Suffering the league of nations fate
pale flower
The UN is very corrupt
valid magnet
Is your brain full of shit?? Have you shit into your own head???
oak lodge
no, it's other way
valid magnet
A dead horse is more useful than this guy
oak lodge
head in ass
proud tulip
gm!
pastel shale
gm connor
pale flower
Not even talking about I/P stuff, the UN head hugging Russian leaders and shit wtf
pastel shale
it's a very grim morning hey
oak lodge
gday connor
pastel shale
pale flower
No Con bm 😭
oak lodge
It's not grim?
blazing depot
I wouldn't call it good, but sure, Connor
proud tulip
oh is it not looking good?
pastel shale
trump 267/270
pale flower
Trump 266
blazing depot
It's very Joever
trim flicker
very joever
proud tulip
for fuck sake
pale flower
Harris 219
pastel shale
224 now but doesnt amtter
pale flower
Trump leading by 5mil votes
pastel shale
need literally every single remaining voter to vote harris to win basically
oak lodge
concede now right?
proud tulip
what a ridiculous country
pale flower
You said it
thorny schooner
theres 10 possible ways harris wins and 13 for trump according to 270towin but
i dont think it updated trump winning PA
pastel shale
theres 10 possible ways harris wins and 13 for trump according to 270towin but
6 remaining states, only need 1 for trump to keep it simple
thorny schooner
so gg’s
blazing depot
A country where half the people openly vote for a racist serial rapist convicted felon just to not have to vote for a woman of color
fringe juniper
tim walz already won my heart
thorny schooner
i think kamala didnt separate herself from biden enough
the republican party kept pushing the shes just biden 2 narrative
pale flower
Hard to do in 3 months tbf
pastel shale
the dem's ego got to them, when biden announced he was stepping down the dems shouldve appointed walz or that astronaut guy
and biden shouldve stepped down way earlier
thorny schooner
yeah
valid magnet
I am sorry but this is the most stupid politics I have seen in a long while and I live in a country that was the evil guy in both world wars
pastel shale
not to mention how disastrous their campaign has been last month
pale flower
LOL Hiz based
fossil basin
Biden should have stated he'd be keeping his 2020 promise of being a one term president 3 years ago
blazing depot
German politics are inherently boring and I'm thankful for it
pale flower
Me too Grumpy 
fossil basin
I hate "keeping politics boring", it just is an excuse for letting corruption go through
ocean vigil
what
fossil basin
It just is a privileged stance to not care about politics
blazing depot
I hate "keeping politics boring", it just is an excuse for letting corruption go...
That's the shittest take I've seen all week, and it was election night justy esterday
fossil basin
To afford to not care about politics
valid magnet
In a few weeks I will probably be even banned from entering the country tho not a big loss
pastel shale
theres a difference between "boring" politics and "indifferent" politics
germany is the former, japan is the latter
blazing depot
Politics being boring is not the same as not caring about politics
proud tulip
In a few weeks I will probably be even banned from entering the country tho not ...
I've never wanted to visit anyway and this just solidified it
pale flower
The US? Yeah..
blazing depot
It just means politicians are doing their job instead of being dumbass clowns
valid magnet
Like in the US
blazing depot
Or demagogues
fossil basin
theres a difference between "boring" politics and "indifferent" politics
Ass vs ass
ocean vigil
what
pastel shale
boring politics is not ass
ocean vigil
you're once again talking utter shit
hollow stirrup
A country where half the people openly vote for a racist serial rapist convicted...
Well they have evidently no independent thought in their brain so
pastel shale
our current PM's first year was very uneventful but that's cuz he was actually doing his motherfucking job unlike the last guy
blazing depot
Well they have evidently no independent thought in their brain so
Actual cult be like
thorny schooner
well i cant wait for our immigration site to crash again
pastel shale
well i cant wait for our immigration site to crash again
you too? 
thorny schooner
happened the first time bro won
fossil basin
Boring politics is what sets reactionary politics freeground to roam through
pale flower
There's no chance but if no one reaches 270 does the choice go to the senate?
hollow stirrup
Actual cult be like
Have you heard about the woman who refused to terminate pregnancy despite the 80% chance of death because fuck abortion amiright
fossil basin
We have had our relative "boring" politics phase yet so much bullshit had happened to set the ground even then
thorny schooner
everybody says they're going to Canada
true….
eager parrot
and Canada's about to have their own conservative government too anyway, no chance in hell Trudeau wins again.
thorny schooner
oh hes over
valid magnet
I rather want boring politics than being attacked by the right for being middle eastern
blazing depot
Have you heard about the woman who refused to terminate pregnancy despite the 80...
I haven't, but can't say I'm surprised
pastel shale
Have you heard about the woman who refused to terminate pregnancy despite the 80...
natural selection
eager parrot
There's no chance but if no one reaches 270 does the choice go to the senate?
house and senate each pick the president and vice president if it's really 269-269
pastel shale
can't come fast enough for the others
hollow stirrup
She has 3 kids and will probably leave her husband widowed
Gotta love these empty headed fucks
fossil basin
I rather want boring politics than being attacked by the right for being middle ...
The boring politics set some ground for that
pastel shale
0 chance of being 269-269, because the lowest remaining state is alaska with 3
trump is at 267
valid magnet
Yep we are fucked
eager parrot
was just answering her inquiry, not setting a realistic chance of that happening
pale flower
ABC is still saying 266
fossil basin
by setting ground i do not mean "justifying" i mean resulting with that
pale flower
Oh Bibi already posted his congrats lmao
blazing depot
The boring politics set some ground for that
That's just not it. Government is inherently boring, it's supposed to be. And politics is supposed to reflect that.
valid magnet
Bruh i talked about politics instead of studying for the exam rip
marsh oracle
Attorney General Aileen Cannon is gonna clean house
pastel shale
"interesting" politics for my country is our PM going on a fucking hawaii trip when half the country is burning down, i'd rather very much have a fucking boring PM
hollow stirrup
Most of these projections are being called with 20% of the votes being tallied
fossil basin
That's just not it. Government is inherently boring, it's supposed to be. And po...
It keeps masses politically illiterate and causes no defenselines against subsegments of fascism
thorny schooner
well back to bed
pastel shale
imma go back to metaphor which is ironically very political
hollow stirrup
Damien I'm moving in
thorny schooner
see yall in 3hours!
pale flower
Sleep well!
last eagle
It's all because of Stake...
eager parrot
naw we are going blue this year anyway
upside down world up there
but y'all have an orange too
pastel shale
naw we are going blue this year anyway
our next election is looking super grim too (blue is also bad here)
thorny schooner
funny colour money
last eagle
people betting high on them so ofc they went to vote whatever it wins
eager parrot
canadian $100's are so nice to touch
hoary charm
well i cant wait for our immigration site to crash again
it do be like that
marsh oracle
It keeps masses politically illiterate and causes no defenselines against subseg...
Yea the excitement of the last trump years has really made people politically literate
hollow stirrup
Forget politics, why did Facebook push a reminder about a 2012 post 
eager parrot
FB just letting you know that you are now old
fossil basin
Yea the excitement of the last trump years has really made people politically li...
The AI has destroyed a lot of reliability
trim flicker
Oh Bibi already posted his congrats lmao
pain
pastel shale
The AI has destroyed a lot of reliability
now youre just spouting a lot of bullshit lol
fossil basin
It has made people more politically active
marsh oracle
Kairu can you tell your government to let me in with a masters but no work experience there? They want me to have a year at least cause I dont have a doctorate
Thanks for forwarding my request
ocean vigil
now youre just spouting a lot of bullshit lol
always have tbh
fossil basin
Cannot necessarily argue for political literacy though..
trim flicker
Kairu government agent
hoary charm
Kairu can you tell your government to let me in with a masters but no work exper...
you should be able to get in easily from germany
marsh oracle
Ngl I only looked for like 2 minutes
pale flower
Aw fuck I just realized Harris is gonna certify Trump's presidency
marsh oracle
Maybe theres some german hack
pastel shale
always have tbh
i can't exactly argue about their view on politics since im not turkish like them but ai destroying reliability is just fucking bullshit
ocean vigil
it's been non stop weave by them about anything for weeks
pastel shale
damn
hoary charm
Ngl I only looked for like 2 minutes
if all else fails, just do a uni course on a student visa then switch over to a work visa after 3 years lol
marsh oracle
I aint going back to school for 3 years
fossil basin
i can't exactly argue about their view on politics since im not turkish like the...
Not really? AI has irrepairably damaged what people see as real
blazing depot
it's been non stop weave by them about anything for weeks
I'd argue Trump's weaving makes more sense than that
pastel shale
lets just not mention how job market in NZ is becoming really fucked
sorry kairu
but it's the truth
pastel shale
Not really? AI has irrepairably damaged what people see as real
you know that AI has to be trained with very real data, right?
it's not like the fucking movies
trim flicker
una what r u arguing about they've been definitely using AI for misinformation campaigns
lol
fossil basin
you know that AI has to be trained with very real data, right?
Problem is that yeah, people believe the crustacean jesuses
hollow stirrup
This is a great time to have gotten a city government job
hoary charm
you cant extrapolate dead internet facebook with the majority
pastel shale
una what r u arguing about they've been definitely using AI for misinformation c...
this is true, but it's not inherently the AI being unreliable but rather the users
fossil basin
We were not preoared for ai and social media algorithms being en masse because it was sudden
trim flicker
i mean idk what lucifer is talking about 90% of the time im just saying it's been very frequently used for misinfo
pastel shale
it's like a knife, you can't blame the knife for a murder
shit like saying ai is bad for whatever reason is just bad for the lack of a better word
fossil basin
it's like a knife, you can't blame the knife for a murder
We can blame the easy supply and lack of regulations
pastel shale
and thats where you blame the people, not the tool
fossil basin
This is the exact arguement existing for guns
trim flicker
i can blame both actually
fossil basin
i can blame both actually
Yeah
pale flower
On a more emotional sidenote, even though she didn't win, Harris's campaign has given me a lot of hope and optimism at a time that was personally really difficult for me
pastel shale
generative ai used under proper conditions is incredibly useful
pale flower
So I still really appreciate her and her campaign for that
pastel shale
but i agree the common generative ai mdoels like gpt are shit
fossil basin
One cannot just say that manipulation of ai "proof" and social media algorithms (especially elon with X) was not a factor
blazing depot
Oh hey, at least Mark Robinson lost, lol
pale flower
Also I fucking hope all the current Trump staffers regret working with him just like last time
blazing depot
Pretty much the only assclown out of the bunch
trim flicker
the current staffers are mostly handpicked loyalists no?
pale flower
Weren't they last time, too?
trim flicker
Or the ones that are supposedly getting in the admin
oblique shore
grifters*
blazing depot
I wouldn't call them that. RFK Jr and Elon are opportunists to the core
oblique shore
hopefully(?) trump can help elon with some space thingies
marsh oracle
The top dudes are definitely grifters
oblique shore
or create more flamethrowers that’s cool as well
trim flicker
Weren't they last time, too?
Different times, lotta republicans became disillusioned with him and left his admin
So the ones remaining are mostly loyalists
marsh oracle
Like tulsi
trim flicker
And/or grifters
marsh oracle
But all the lower rank executive folks are gonna be hardcore loyalists
trim flicker
And project2025 people
blazing depot
Can't wait for press secretary Tucker Carlson
hoary charm
Like tulsi
im still sadge about the whole tulsi thing. leaving the dnc to back bernie when he was being shafted was cool af, just to end up supporting trump
fossil basin
Also californian votes are not promising either
blazing depot
Which is a way more realistic choice than you think
fossil basin
Also californian votes are not promising either
As in policy votes of the state being quite backwards
blazing depot
I'd say now is the time to completely tune out US politics for the next 4 years, but that orange fuck is gonna make that completely impossible
fossil basin
I do not think there is ever a time to completely tune out of US politics
trim flicker
yeah
fossil basin
Even for other countries, people have to keep on check on their neighbors, even not related to the US
hoary charm
no they don't
trim flicker
I choose to follow it because I'm sick in the head
fossil basin
For the US, almost everyone kinda has to due being indirectly affected by the US policy trends
hoary charm
people should always tune out of politics for some time, it's not healthy to continuously be fed doomer shit
trim flicker
most people don't really follow politics
They're only slightly aware of the bigger stuff happening
fossil basin
most people don't really follow politics
That is true, and is a problem
fossil basin
But my response was more so as in neglecting relative proximity of related politics of somewhere while keeping in touch with overall politics
It is also an arguement of "do people deserve to be comfortable/worryless in specific situations"
I get the arguement atleast, cannot say i have a specific side on that question
haughty steppe
Wish I could be clueless about politics
fossil basin
It's that infamous kourtney kardashian quote of "there is people that are dying"
trim flicker
fucked up that we're not getting the mafia transgender aliens
haughty steppe
blazing depot
Or Kamala doing free operations on everyone
trim flicker
😔 no free top surgery
haughty steppe
MY TOP SURGERY 
oblique shore
what about my free hrt donnie
haughty steppe
Gonna be lots of diy hrt
fossil basin
fucked up that we're not getting the mafia transgender aliens
😭
marsh oracle
Btw its pretty crazy that a normal part of us elections is now bomb threats to demographically targetted polling stations
ocean vigil
traced to russian emails, kek
haughty steppe
Gotta love it
keen nest
I always am curious why I hear more about politics from people outside the US about the US
like unironically
ocean vigil
because it's so fucking stupid to everyone outside
trim flicker
because people outside the us actually follow it more
fossil basin
I always am curious why I hear more about politics from people outside the US ab...
Because the world has like 8b people
thorny schooner
when i saw russian twitch streamers following the election on just chattinf
fossil basin
And there are only 350m or such americans
thorny schooner
knew it was doomed
keen nest
I mean statistically yeah sure
but I mean most people ik who care about US politics are EU
blazing depot
I always am curious why I hear more about politics from people outside the US ab...
Because we have to deal with your shit
keen nest
I never hear anything from people in india or china for example kek
marsh oracle
Russia aligned countries care less about us politics
hoary charm
probably cause there's a direct threat to the EU that trump will help along
marsh oracle
More news at 11
trim flicker
do you talk to chinese or indians
fossil basin
but I mean most people ik who care about US politics are EU
Superiority complex i believe in terms of eu/canada/such
pale flower
I think China profits from US discourse
keen nest
yes I regularly talk to both
pale flower
While the rest of us get fucked by it
blazing depot
Trump tariffs tanking the world economy will be great. Trump giving Putin free reign will be even better. Etc.
fossil basin
Superiority complex i believe in terms of eu/canada/such
people from these areas to brag about how ahead they are of the US where most cases situation is similar kinda
blazing depot
people from these areas to brag about how ahead they are of the US where most ca...
Do you ever shut up, really
trim flicker
no man people follow it because it affects everyone else
fossil basin
Do you ever shut up, really
No!
blazing depot
Unfortunate
keen nest
first ammendment 
fossil basin
I had abrubtly stopped speaking at 1.5 until 4.5, and after that i never stopped since
That's what i was told
pale flower
The US is one of the biggest world leaders out there right now, most other countries who have a similar impact are dictatorships that don't HAVE elections to begin with
ocean vigil
weavegpt for real
fossil basin
The reason i had adrubtly stopped was because of my allergies apparently, all milk products and to gluten
keen nest
see there's an argument I can understand
trim flicker
i started following US politics more actively after The Intercept uncovered US interference here and the CIA being involved in imprisoning Lula
hoary charm
The reason i had adrubtly stopped was because of my allergies apparently, all mi...
gpt is gonna be in the bin now musk is up
trim flicker
So
hoary charm
weaveGrok now
marsh oracle
Msci world up 3% today
fossil basin
I just have diagnosed autism
marsh oracle
Maybe trump isnt all that bad hold up
keen nest
wait who here actually is in america
there's a bunch of yall that i'm just now finding out aren't
marsh oracle
Only you
keen nest
lets gooooooooooooo
trim flicker
Only you probably
pale flower
Yeah the rest are asleep LMAO
keen nest
it's just interesting to see the contrast
blazing depot
Well, Sam is here
ocean vigil
based on kpop chat rose is not in america
trim flicker
was here
keen nest
ye ik sam is but I'm meaning like just currently active rn in this channel
keen nest
I forgot sam's dog's name lowkey. Dementia getting to me
better be getting lots of headpats
trim flicker
Lance
keen nest
hoary charm
the actual winner
keen nest
team green 
fossil basin
I wonder how marianne feels, she has voted democrats but endorses RFK jr at health department, kinda fuckass
hoary charm
microsofts plans for a nuclear plant to power openai is gonna be going to musk's ai lab now
ruby helm
trump gets presidency, majority in house and majority in senate, still only able to partially enact agenda as tea party candidates demand even more extreme policies or refuse to vote
pastel shale
whats even the point
marsh oracle
Its the maga party and only the maga party now after this win
pastel shale
time to ubereats bubble tea
trim flicker
I could just grab some mint outside
keen nest
oh damn we can't use joever anymore
pale flower
it's so Done
like donald... idk
Hard to join in on the memes when everything is [pain]
hoary charm
do you think my boss would understand why i did no work today
ocean vigil
would he notice?
hoary charm
no i could probably bs something up
ocean vigil
there's your answer
hoary charm
pale flower
To be fair the optimistic outlook here is that I'll probably be spending the rest of the day off the internet to avoid reading any more about this
More studying progress for me 🦀
hoary charm
its okay ai got me
valid magnet
Someone free that Shinzo Abe guy and give him a new job
Okay maybe I am taking it too far
Idc anymore
fringe juniper
i ain’t missing work
pastel shale
japanese man with homemade gun vs american with an actual fucking rifle
guess who has better aim
oblique shore
rip zelenskyy ig
marsh oracle
Eh
fossil basin
https://fxtwitter.com/taylanbilgic/status/1854065369302098216?t=JbWOSXmxuXRkPFxjEpRZug&s=19
What the actual fuck
marsh oracle
Flattery gains you a lot with trump
fossil basin
We have been more economically fucked than Russia even due Ukraine - Russia war, surprised that anything happening has a somewhat positive effect on economy at this point
marsh oracle
This doesnt mean anything for your economy
fossil basin
This doesnt mean anything for your economy
That is true, i meant as in even increasing numbers
Kinda bad wording on my part
marsh oracle
US markets like that there wont be riots and election denial this time so to the moon we go
fringe juniper
If there is a supposed constant, it is to never invest in turkish lira
I'll invest anyway
fossil basin
One thing for sure, the standard/supposed election indicators are dead
marsh oracle
Lol
fossil basin
Creating perceptions and vibes, whatever false they are, has become important in securing results
Trump is seen as the economically viable candidate despite having a horrible plan to run the economy, considerably worse than his opposition
valid magnet
Twitter
fossil basin
My prediction has been half right, i was wrong about kamala winning, but i was right about the election not necessarily being close
pale flower
LOL good shirt tho
oblique shore
my copium had kamala winning half way through election night with only a 10% chance because if you’re gonna be the first female president why not do it with a bang
fringe juniper
Kayfabe off: I knew she'd lose lol
valid magnet
My copium was Kamala winning because surely with all the celebrities and the shit Trump speaks it's possible that she can only win right?
Yeah...
fossil basin
I genuinely thought she'd win
Also i did not think a campaign with elon and jd vance as dual vp roles would succeed
fringe juniper
She didn't do well at all in the 2020 primaries. She didn’t get support from her party then or now
blazing depot
Turns out being in control of the algorithm of worlds' biggest SNS is helpful
fossil basin
I did not necessarily think she was a great poller, i just thought trump was washed
fringe juniper
last eagle
Twitter
forest sigil
Twitter
proud tulip
what a joke
pale knot
Someone free that Shinzo Abe guy and give him a new job
Is this the doohickey guy
trim flicker
Wonder how much of the "too liberal" perception is because she's a woman of color
Yeah
forest sigil
The two top concerns for voters were Inflation and Immigration lol
Just a country as a whole moving to the right and I don't think it's anything Kamala could've done differently if that's the case.
trim flicker
Yeah it's a very weird case
As more polls come out it'll be easier to tell what was the main sticking point but it does seem like the country just had a big shift to the right
forest sigil
Think no matter who the dems put up they would've lost this looking at some of this exit stuff.
trim flicker
If i didn't know I'd actually think you're american
fossil basin
Pandering to never trump republicans was doomed to fail because they were going to end up voting trump regardless
hoary charm
44% of polled voters thought kamala was too liberal
kamala was pandering to never trump republicans
only one of these makes sense, not both at once
half heath
wow... I'm out if country rn, just catching up. What a shitshow.
fossil basin
>44% of polled voters thought kamala was too liberal
>kamala was pandering to ne...
Contradictions especially by voters is common, both together might not make sense, but can be true
pale flower
If i didn't know I'd actually think you're american
Wait Don did you mean me? LOL
fossil basin
forest sigil
Who cares
pale flower
Honestly the sad part about this all is the asparagus lady got it wrong
fossil basin
Who
pale flower
ABC just projected Wisconsin at 99% vote-in for Trump, that's 276
And this is asparagus lady
trim flicker
Wait Don did you mean me? LOL
Yeah
it's just that the way you talk about it you sound more emotionally invested than anyone here lmao
pale flower
Well yeah cause it immediately affects a lot of things around me
Also like, I do have a lot of friends and family who live in the US
pale flower
Well you're not but my brother just was LOL
I get that though, it just feels like a lot of things are getting worse for a lot of people all around the world
Which makes me very upset
last eagle
yea
pale flower
This past year was fucking garbage and it just sucks knowing it's only going to get worse
trim flicker
yep
last eagle
i feel like that too, i couldn't help but seeing how trump winning will make things worse than ever
hoary charm
its ok the deep state will have the steal in for kamala by morning
trim flicker
finally
shadow elbow
I’m the deep state
fossil basin
Thank you chuu.lvr for the immortal screenshot
oblique shore
literally 1984 bruh
brave pelican
this might be the most spectacular failure on the side of the moderates
pale flower
I think that what kills me the most is that so many Americans seem to have chosen money over values
trim flicker
this might be the most spectacular failure on the side of the moderates
It's one to be studied for sure
fossil basin
I think that what kills me the most is that so many Americans seem to have chose...
They have also chosen values, just a different kind
pale flower
I don't know how accurate that is to say but, I just feel disgusted knowing that man is once again the US president after all he's said and done
brave pelican
dems pushed more right towards a lot of issues and still found a way to lose
this whole campaign was a circus show
fossil basin
Not all values held are charitable ones
brave pelican
genuinely so impressed
pale flower
https://x.com/souljagoytellem/status/1854017021668630795?t=l5meyXYYcZnKMjT98RKlX...
Yeah they were "too liberal" still
trim flicker
dems pushed more right towards a lot of issues and still found a way to lose
when you do that the people just vote for the other guy
that's already on the right
altho that's not the only factor here
near jetty
did they find the mythical Liz cheney fan
trim flicker
big big mess
brave pelican
her platform was not genuine and she got merced by the they them ads
trim flicker
it was probably just the OOOOOH MY GOD I WILL VOTE song
if i had to make a wild assumption
last eagle
need explanation about what is "too liberal"
ocean vigil
woman out of the kitchen
fossil basin
I fear democrats will get the wrong conclusion to put hitler 2.0 in 2028 elections if there is one
near jetty
Tony Evers save me
trim flicker
idk about hitler 2.0 it'd probably be 3.0 at that point
pale flower
Reading the various congrats now too, I feel like a lot of these country leaders wouldn't have even congratulated Harris on the win
trim flicker
maybe 4.0 even
brave pelican
north carolina always rolling dem for governor attorney general and superintendent just for everyone to vote trump will always be so interesting to me
trim flicker
depends how u counting ig
but dems shifting even more right next election is expected
brave pelican
like they almost got a crazy lady that homeschools her kids propaganda to become superintendent to run PUBLIC SCHOOLS to win
rationality was never an option
fossil basin
but dems shifting even more right next election is expected
it was expected whatever they won or lost, not surprised
ocean vigil
Reading the various congrats now too, I feel like a lot of these country leaders...
idk about that, you always get at least a generic congrats with these things
brave pelican
school today will be interesting
fossil basin
Even the chuu card did not work
Maybe it's katy perry's fault
A video with Witness haircut in big 2024??
I like how the witness haircut looks, it was just a very cursed era for her due the era's failing
oak lodge
so was it the squirrel or gorilla that caused this?
fossil basin
Not saying all of it is a wrong kind of reaction, just surprising how many parallels there is to it
fossil basin
so was it the squirrel or gorilla that caused this?
I do not want to see that damn ai generated squirrel battallions again
pale flower
idk about that, you always get at least a generic congrats with these things
I was mostly thinking of like, countries that have laws against women or that heavily disrespect them
Though a majority of those countries already hate the US as is, but still
ruby helm
can trump give musk a pardon over the $1m giveaways thing?
to avoid any lawsuits
or just tell the government lawyers not to investigate it?
proud tulip
can trump give musk a pardon over the $1m giveaways thing?
yes he can also pardon himself
pale flower
Tammy?
pale flower
Ohhh
azure dagger
are we cooked
fossil basin
dire canopy
how does that relate?
ocean vigil
what a top4
marsh oracle
how does that relate?
The top 3 biggest spotify podcasts are misinformation machines
trim flicker
Walz on joe rogan would've probably been good
Probably
not like it matters now anyway
marsh oracle
Eh
Imagine walz going on rogan and then the next episode being trump or vance or musk and them shitting on the walz episode
I dont really think it wouldve helped
dire canopy
is there even any "democratic" podcast?
fossil basin
dire canopy
do people actually watch podcasts that much?
marsh oracle
Yes
hoary charm
dire canopy
never knew it was this popular
fossil basin
A voter in arizona claimed he voted for trump because kamala rejected going to rogan
hoary charm
musk and trump are terrible speakers so its really difficult to listen to lol
fossil basin
On tv that was
valid magnet
https://fxtwitter.com/BuzzingPop/status/1854141516723126290?t=_kdPuk2CeaHVqNAgWt...
Azealia Banks is also stupid af
Nothing new
Already saw multiple people begging others to not harm themselves or commit suicide it's horrible
What the fuck is wrong with people
fossil basin
i do not blame people for harming themselves or committing suicide, this is a situation that might just warrant it in specific cases, even while i do not endorse self harm and suicide, or would commit it myself, it is overall a horrible situation especially for those that will be harmed by the upcoming world orders
i do not like when other people brand people who commit suicide or self harm as selfish or self-absorbed, or just care about "oh my metro will be 30 mins late and i cannot go to work because this person threw themselves in front of it", this is a real common arguement here and occasional events happen at the metro
brave pelican
uh
supple dragon
fossil basin
the blame ultimately lies on the factors that drive people to self harm or suicide, not the victims being "selfish"
valid magnet
How about we focus on the actual issue that people are planning to commit suicide over this instead especially queer people
Not the argument if doing that is selfish or not it's about the fact that people don't care or want people to kill themselves by voting for a dick like Trump
fossil basin
How about we focus on the actual issue that people are planning to commit suicid...
what i am saying is especially related to this, there are many people whose lives and mental sanities depend on election results
valid magnet
I know but this has nothing to do with people being selfish or not (which i agree is horrible that people think that)
near jetty
what does this mean
sly tree
Omfg 💀
hoary charm
https://fxtwitter.com/BuzzingPop/status/1854141516723126290?t=_kdPuk2CeaHVqNAgWt...
wait wtf is with this ballot
why are dem/rep duplicated under working families and conservative?
marsh oracle
Simplified ballot for people like azealia banks
marsh oracle
Wouldnt surprise me if she just posted some fake shit lmao
livid frigate
why are dem/rep duplicated under working families and conservative?
working famlies is a political party
mostly in new york
thorny schooner
misc chat turns people stupid huh
valid magnet
Why, is Azealia Banks here?
oak lodge
ask that of every jackass's face you see in your news from now on
to answer your query I have no idea
brave pelican
valid magnet
Thanks Karina
inland dawn
“Wait” 😭
haughty steppe
better be getting lots of headpats
Unfortunately I'm away at school while he's at home
oak lodge
only a couple weeks away!
keen nest
tough root
Lance 🔥
hollow stirrup
Who is ready to hug a bottle to sleep
I can't wait to see more men complain about not getting any
I hope the women of the night are taking care of themselves
Tough world we live in
haughty steppe
actually disgusting
blazing depot
Fun times for us here as well though, coalition just broke cause the junior partner who has been causing trouble for 3 years already decided to do some more of that
Meaning our conservatives are pretty much guaranteed to get back into power
glossy kite
crazy stuff
blazing depot
But because they're useless opportunistic populist dipshits they still wanted more
Just an article about it, but bro was pissed
glossy kite
yeah i watched the whole thing
marsh oracle
god i love when conservatives fuck everything up and then blame the people fixing their mess for it
glossy kite
he was indeed pissed about it
marsh oracle
glossy kite
but i think scholz also said some kinda promising stuff regarding taxes as an example
blazing depot
Doesn't really matter tbh, there's no majority for anything, Merz has all but said he won't do shit ever so nothing will happen for the next 5 months
Chancellor Merz is something I thought I'd never have to see after he got so thoroughly cucked by Merkel
But nah, bro persevered simply by existing
With the natural charm of a goop of slime
And the eloquence of a pet rock
Literally no one likes the man, but it won't matter
marsh oracle
maybe the backlash from the first black/blue state government can save us lol
blazing depot
I mean, I'm pretty certain it will just be another grand coalition
Which also no one fucking wants, but you know
trim flicker
gl europe
pale flower
German politics are inherently boring and I'm thankful for it
Grumpy 😭
trim flicker
yeah there's no orange man working on mcdonalds
marsh oracle
tbh i dont even know what the cdu would actually do anymore
trim flicker
still worrying how basically every government is shifting right but some are doing it in a more spectacular fashion
marsh oracle
90% of the shit they say is very obviously made up
like we arent bringing those 3 nuclear power plants back lmao
blazing depot
tbh i dont even know what the cdu would actually do anymore
They're essentially just saying shit they think AfD voters want to hear, but they're pretty much as out of touch as it goes
trim flicker
Kamala concession speech is pretty funny to me
near jetty
its pretty funny to her too it seems with all the laughing
trim flicker
"only when it's dark enough we can see the stars" dog you just lost to a fascist
on the popular vote
near jetty
sure
trim flicker
you always do the "well what do you want them to do" thing
I'm just complaining
I'm not trying to engineer her a speech
just saying the message sounds empty
pale flower
"only when it's dark enough we can see the stars" dog you just lost to a fascist
I think it was a good message overall - a lot of focus on hope and optimism despite the pain
It was also just a very difficult speech to make, overall. But some of the lines really spoke to me - about the fight being longer than expected, that folks should "roll up their sleeves", that while it could be a very dark moment in the history of the US she still encourages folks to never give up on trying to make the world a better place.
I also think the mention of "stars" references the American flag, right? Hence the future of America may still shine brightly. Very optimistic message overall even if things will be difficult these next four years
vital needle
I WILL try to engineer her speech though, she should have ended it by mentioning that once the drums of liberation sound again they will announce the dawn of the world
Ending the long night, shedding light on the void century (the 1600s)
And she should wear a straw hat
pale flower
Pretty sure that's copyrighted
marsh oracle
And she should wear a straw hat
no please thats gonna do strange things to hasan
vital needle
I'd do weird things to hasan
trim flicker
It was also just a very difficult speech to make, overall. But some of the lines...
I'm very cynical on that
She literally just lost to a guy her campaign was calling a fascist and their last message was some empty "we should have hope" messaging, people see through this bs pretty easily imo
trim flicker
It's pretty messaging but to me personally it's just meaningless
pale flower
I'm very cynical on that
She literally just lost to a guy her campaign was calli...
I mean yeah of course there's that too but I think in a way she's trying to help folks keep their sanity
You saw the crowd
trim flicker
Yeah i can tell she was just trying to make a comfort speech, just think it could be way stronger if her messaging was about actually fighting fascism
But it wasn't really like that
It was a bunch of pretty words that sound inspirational for you to feel better but won't mobilize anyone to do better
vital needle
Thats a problem of the whole progressive spectrum though, especially in the first world. It's all about resistance and surviving despite being shit on, its never about actually achieving goals and triumphing
It should change
trim flicker
It is just liberal messaging
pale flower
But it wasn't really like that
It was a bunch of pretty words that sound inspira...
Hmm fair enough, I don't think she would've wanted to get people to "mobilize" though since this is a concession speech
trim flicker
You NEED people to mobilize that's the whole point of politics
Independently if you lost the election you need people to be politically active
pale flower
She's been trying to get people to mobilize for the past 107-108 days LOL
shadow elbow
Hmm fair enough, I don't think she would've wanted to get people to "mobilize" t...
need everyone to clear their schedules next january for no particular reason
vital needle
Nah she got them to vote, not necessarily the same thing
trim flicker
Yeah it's a different thing
pale flower
need everyone to clear their schedules next january for no particular reason
I just think that anything more would've been twisted to sound like this 
trim flicker
I mean she already lost
If the media twists it and come january no one does that who cares
vital needle
A huge mistake that liberals make is thinking election is the end goal while it is just the starting point. Especially in situations where the legislative is majority reactionary. Lula and his party is a very big example of how a left of center candidate can nonetheless fuck over workers because they alone cant stand against reactionary forces. The people have to be willing to take to the streets, protest, and occasionaly burn shit down to stop fascist shenanigans
Bolivia is a great example of that
They defeated a whole coup and a lot of subsequent attacks because they are mobilized, while brazilians cant achieve shit
Lula or no lula
The point is, Kamala is making a concession speech, yes. SHE is conceding, as she should. The people should not
And she should not tell them to
pale flower
She literally said "never give up" how is that telling them to concede? LOL
Idk if you're expecting her to lead a riot but I just don't think that's what she stands for
trim flicker
Yeah she didn't tell them to give up or anything, in fact the did mention people should roll up their sleeves/organize/mobilize etc build a better future/never give up
It's not an awful speech imo and this kinda stuff sure works on some people, but personally I've seen this kinda thing multiple times and it's never really about fighting fascism or the causes of it
It's always some vague fighting for freedom
Freedom that is being attacked by who? By which means? How should you fight it?
pale flower
I think that's fair to say yeah
vital needle
Yeah, thats why I feel like it rings kinda hollow despite she saying to never give up because in the end its a never ending struggle that people endure and thats about it. Just keep hope and keep resisting
I think people get tired of resisting
I agree with don too I think i got too carried away in what I said lmao
trim flicker
Tldr i felt like her speech was too appeasing when it needed to be more defiant
Which is not exclusively a Kamala thing btw
Just usual lib speech
pale flower
I think we might have just had different expectations from the speech, I don't think it's on her to lead the charge, so to speak. I think that might be why she spoke to young voters at her alma mater, sort-of like passing the baton a bit
There need to be new generations of Democrats coming in who would be willing to be blunt about the fight you mentioned
I think that as she's someone who focuses very heavily on unity and hope, she's just not the right person to lead that defiant voice. But imo she's the right person to help people get back up on their feet after getting knocked down very badly
That's just how I personally felt having heard that speech, so idk I'm just hoping others were affected similarly
trim flicker
Yeah i can see that
pale flower
I'm jealous of how much she loves her country to be honest LOL and of how hard she fought for it so far
Cause like yeah like y'all mentioned it's important to get up and protest too, but a lot of times that doesn't help either. You need to have the resolve and hope that things can and will change as long as you keep going though
(We're at day 2 of protesting the latest politics here, and almost at day 400 protesting for a hostage deal to be made even if it means ending the war)
trim flicker
Mobilizing is just about motivating political action and making people more educated and aware of politics in general
And protests are definitely a part of it if people feel it's needed
You need to put in the work either way
pale flower
Yep true
But still I think it should be a grassroots thing
I think Adam Conover made a video about it too lately
trim flicker
Yeah the point is you inspire the base and they do stuff on their own
vital needle
Oh adam conover is a thing
livid frigate
Harris January 6 movement incoming
vital needle
Insane how the algorithm can erase people from your memory if it stops serving you content
marsh oracle
btw i love berny but im not sure what hes getting at this time
biden passed a bunch of economically very left wing stuff and the main groups benefitting from it just backstabbed his successor
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The big problem is that even if some of the decisions of the administration were good (like the inflation reduction act did actually help a lot, focus on worker unions, etc) most of the voter base didn't really feel like their lives got any better
People really are just mad/tired and want radical change
marsh oracle
do they want the bernie change tho?
vital needle
biden passed a bunch of economically very left wing stuff and the main groups be...
What policy of his would you consider very left wing?
marsh oracle
harris used the words price gouging and capital gains tax and from what ive seen people fucking hated it
not that i think any policy proposal really mattered this time lol
its all vibes
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price gouging worked pretty well afaik they just hated price control
which she didn't use
marsh oracle
What policy of his would you consider very left wing?
probably the highest stimulus spending youre gonna get for the next 30 years or so
marsh oracle
which she didn't use
doesnt matter tho does it
apparently the communist attack still works
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Well yeah she lost
marsh oracle
for some reason
there was that nyt/sienna poll where iirc 44% said she was too liberal and only like 15% said shes too right wing
so idk
i would love for there to be some secret activatable progressive mass in the us electorate, i just dont see it
near jetty
you would fit right into the democratic party
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Afaik the american population is often progressive when asked about issues and presented with left wing policies on stuff
But its easy to fall victim to media play and propaganda etc
marsh oracle
you would fit right into the democratic party
I do like living in reality, true
near jetty
and losing
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You just don't tell them its communist and they're like wow this sounds great
near jetty
it would seem
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If you say it's communist they're like wow this sucksssss
marsh oracle
You just don't tell them its communist and they're like wow this sounds great
Yea but joe rogan guest #7598 will tell them
Imo first prio gotta be for dems to start fighting back in that space
(Same goes for lots of other liberal parties around the world)
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yep liberalism dying
marsh oracle
Cause liberals are letting it die
Garland waiting with the trump prosecution so as not to appear partisan is a fucking joke in hindsight
If somebody attacks your liberal democracy its time to fight back instead of playing nice
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Cause liberals are letting it die
I'd say it's fundamentally flawed
At least the way it operates currently does feel like like a cycle of status quo > shift right > status quo > shift right
While a lot of voters feel disenfranchised and end up being radicalized because they want change
marsh oracle
I agree
But the change they want is apparently mass deportation
And I think the right somehow manages to fuck shit up, lose power for a short while to the liberals who start fixing things, the electorate then associates past failures with the current government because economic changes lag behind actions and then re elect the right wing
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Yep it's a lot of shit compounding on top of each other
marsh oracle
And the current media environment reinforces that loop in a ton of countries cause the liberal parties have very little presence in alternative media
At least germany and the us can keep each other company in this new round of the loop
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surely the rise of extremist right wing movements will make liberal governments learn the right lessons this time right
hollow stirrup
I love checking in on atzcord and there's a 13 year old saying anti abortion things in venting 💀
eager parrot
I tried processing that sentence but failed to comprehend it
eager parrot
that's a pretty extreme take for a 13yo
do kids really think about that stuff in middle school?
hollow stirrup
It's hand fed to them
eager parrot
but even by anti abortion standards, being against abortion in what the kid is asserting as a SA case... that's pretty extreme
then again it feels like zoomers and younger shifted a lot to the right, especially males
hollow stirrup
The internet makes it easy for propaganda to spread
Especially with such simple terminology
Fueled by male entitlement
Assault and infant death is going to skyrocket
dense lark
our rights and bodies really just don't mean anything to these people huh
marsh oracle
The number of andrew tate stans among 12-18 year old boys is apparently crazy high
vital needle
do kids really think about that stuff in middle school?
I did a little presentation on abortion when I was 12 or 13
You know when kids make those little paper banners (idk how to say that in english) and then talk about it awkwardly
I remember mine even had little pictures of fetuses and stuff
Lmao
blazing depot
Why would a teacher make you do a presentation about such a topic at that age
vital needle
Something about ethics I guess. It was a philosophy class and she just told us like "this is what abortion is and this is why its bad"