Misc Chat

[eager parrot]

yeah ...

that's like a mayoral election's worth of money here lol

in a mid-sized city

[marsh oracle]

I wonder how effective ads about the fake electors plot would be

[trim flicker]

Yeah media was really focused on that and after the debate idt there was anything they could've done to get rid of that image that isn't just replacing him with a different person

[marsh oracle]

On the one hand its an actual insurrection attempt, on the other hand it might be way too complicated for the average voter to understand the gravity of

The riots at and in the capitol kind of overshadowed the stuff going on behind the scenes

[forest sigil]

a lot of Kamala's appearances have been focused on Abortion Rights, so I think she really needs to hammer that down of waht the GOP wants to do

https://youtu.be/Id0OaTQwtqs

[pastel shale]

at least when it comes down to who is the lesser evil the answers pretty clear in kamala

while for biden his image was mostly of him being an old fool

[eager parrot]

sure, maybe, but Biden also had a 50+ years long political career, people knew what he stood for and what kinds of people he would surround himself with

[blazing depot]

I wouldn't even call Kamala an evil unless you wanna do the whole "Every politician is evil" thing

You had "The lesser of two evils" vs. Hillary, using it here is just imappropriate

[eager parrot]

I think she's just unlikeable

even more than hillary

[forest sigil]

I dont think that's the case

[pastel shale]

true, im just being cynical here cuz shes very polarizing

[eager parrot]

and her speeches, whoever writes them for her, they're not very smart

[trim flicker]

that's crazy

[forest sigil]

she about to get upgraded

[marsh oracle]

The kamala hq twitter account is actually so good lol

Just clips and clips of trump saying the most insane shit

[eager parrot]

I suppose the orange man bad argument and kamala being the anti-trump will get them quite far

so they're doubling down on it

[marsh oracle]

Aint no way lmao

[pale flower]

"bing bing ding ding ding"

[trim flicker]

orange man bff with epstein should be enough to make people not vote on him

but that ain't the case

[forest sigil]

I think Hilary and Biden lacked in several areas that Kamala would probably fair better in

[forest sigil]

do you mean the party of "protect the children" doesnt really want to?

[trim flicker]

his voters probably wouldn't care but hey i think reminding people of that is good

can't let em forget it

[pastel shale]

definitely a big thing for moderates

[trim flicker]

people just forget about it

[pale flower]

Do you guys think that a lot of the current third party voters will swing their votes to Democrat?

[trim flicker]

when they definitely shouldn't

[pale flower]

Or would that depend on Harris?

[forest sigil]

I think 3rd party are pretty set in their ways

unless they were voting just cause Joe was old

[pastel shale]

now they should vote dem cuz trumps old

[marsh oracle]

90% of Stein voters are probably single issue voters over gaza, some weird far left niche issue or generally just insane

[blazing depot]

Nah bro, they want to lower the age of consent to protect the kids. Is no one thinking of the kids but them??

[marsh oracle]

Who even is the libertarian party guy this time?

Are they against driving licenses again?

[blazing depot]

The Libertarians still don't make sense to me

[forest sigil]

I believe it is Chase Oliver

[blazing depot]

Their whole thing is that they shouldn't be a thing

[trim flicker]

Yeah they're idiots

Nothing new

[forest sigil]

they dont want any licenses or regulations of any kinds

[pale flower]

What's the current % of voters estimated to be third party? Do they matter in the long run for the 2% difference that there was between Biden/Kamala and Trump?

[blazing depot]

What ticket is the "I definitely wouldn't eat a human, I swear" Kennedy running on again

[marsh oracle]

Also this is just extremely funny https://x.com/BusinessInsider/status/1815262821032112505

Business Insider (@BusinessInsider) on X

Donald Trump donated to Kamala Harris' campaigns twice while he was a private citizen, records show https://t.co/BxZ96WBFdI

Twitter · Jul 22, 2024, 5:49 AM

[marsh oracle]

Very very small, maybe 2-3% and I would guess most of those are in the deep Red or deep blue states instead of the swing states

But with the way the electoral college works, very small vote counts can make a big difference

[marsh oracle]

Wasnt he running as a democrat?

[blazing depot]

Nah

[forest sigil]

he's running as an Independent IIRC

[marsh oracle]

Oh

Ah he changed back in november

[blazing depot]

btw, can we get rid of MTG this election cycle

That woman is beyond irritating

[ocean vigil]

what did magic do to you?

[forest sigil]

the latest I saw on him was that he had like 10% of the votes, but I just cant believe that

[pale flower]

nugu

[forest sigil]

he takes more away from trump than the dem nominee

[pastel shale]

marjorie taylor greene

[pale flower]

Ah

[marsh oracle]

Probably what the worm told him

[forest sigil]

her seat will be tough to take from her cause she's in a red district in red georgia

[blazing depot]

Like, the woman is actually a relevant spokesperson in the GOP at this point somehow, that tells you all you need to know about that party

[forest sigil]

mf is about to do our version of Dune

[marsh oracle]

The gop without trump is gonna be turbo fucked

[forest sigil]

the spice must flow

[trim flicker]

real

[pastel shale]

it definitely feels like trump supporters like trump more than the gop

[blazing depot]

Yeah, because rn they're just a Trump cult

[marsh oracle]

I dont believe that any replacement is gonna capture people the same way

[pastel shale]

arent his potential replacements even more extreme than himself

[trim flicker]

I mean they were trying to distance themselves from Trump and prop up Desantis

Clearly didn't work

[marsh oracle]

Yea cause the base is all in on trump

[blazing depot]

The funniest thing is Republicans who have... a history with Trump joining his side, smiling

[trim flicker]

Dude's the least charismatic most unlikeable person in existence too

[blazing depot]

Zero principles be like

[ocean vigil]

have they tried to pick someone who is not partly lizard?

[pastel shale]

man why did that home alone guy have to go off the deep end

[marsh oracle]

Principles are overrated

[blazing depot]

Desantis is about as likeable as black mold

[pastel shale]

desantis looks like he eats black mold

[blazing depot]

Hell, mold is probably more intelligent, too

[marsh oracle]

But I actually think the shooting and the reactions to it showed a lot of people how lopsided the expectations are for republicans now

[trim flicker]

if i grab a rock on the road in front of my house that rock is likely more charismatic than him

[marsh oracle]

8 years of violent rhetoric from them but suddenly the dems are too violent

[blazing depot]

The most heineous thing is them going "They™️ did this.." with a knowing smile

It's not like the shooter was one of them or anything

It was them

[pastel shale]

the shooter was a republican as well lmfao

[trim flicker]

Yep

[marsh oracle]

Tbf I domt think its quite clear yet what his motivations were

[trim flicker]

yeah the sudden switch is crazy

and funny

[pastel shale]

gop are just a bunch of hypocrites

not unexpected

[blazing depot]

Motivations no, background yes

Literally registered Republican

[marsh oracle]

But people like piers morgan chastising biden for his bullseye comment while never acknowledging any of trumps comments is just so blatantly obviously partisan

[forest sigil]

dont know about the last part of this, but this is a pretty good sign for Kamala https://x.com/TristanSnell/status/1815246616850264540

Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) on X

Something mainstream media won’t report:

There was a Zoom tonight for Black women organizing for Kamala Harris.

The call had a max of 1000 people. They hit it immediately, and got a hold of the Zoom CEO to help.

40,000 people joined. For over 4 hours.

Trump is soooo screwed.

Twitter · Jul 22, 2024, 4:44 AM

[blazing depot]

Honestly, if Kamala can secure the black/woman votes she should be actually fine

[pastel shale]

definitely got the representation covered

[trim flicker]

Seems like piers morgan alright

[pastel shale]

i cant imagine her fumbling in that area

[trim flicker]

lol

[blazing depot]

Piers Morgan is... definitely a person

[forest sigil]

thanks UK

[blazing depot]

You should be thankful they put Nigel on their parliament for now

At least he can't take any jobs in the US for now

[marsh oracle]

farage immediately fucking off to america to support trump in these trying times but never even meeting him is peak

[forest sigil]

Lauren Boebert has a chance to lose her seat this year so that's a plus

[blazing depot]

How are early chance projections for the senate/house looking for that matter

Kamala getting elected wouldn't exactly matter much with a red supermajority

[forest sigil]

25 seats are up for the house

that could go either way

senate could basically be tied again

[marsh oracle]

Wait I just realized

Biden is now criminally immune and doesnt have to worry about reelection

Hes untouchable

[forest sigil]

I think he's going quietly into the night

also yeah she's basically the nominee https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1815209198747324569

The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) on X

BREAKING: Over 245 Democratic delegates already have endorsed Kamala Harris

Twitter · Jul 22, 2024, 2:16 AM

[marsh oracle]

Good

I assume some republican group will try and challenge this in court but afaik theres really nothing to stand on

[forest sigil]

not much

[last eagle]

yea

[forest sigil]

dang looks like she got $70 Million in 1 day https://x.com/Idejder/status/1815252619062812967

Idejder (@Idejder) on X

ActBlue 1:00AM EST Update

$70,410,317~~!!!!

Twitter · Jul 22, 2024, 5:08 AM

I think that is the best in US History?

[marsh oracle]

You just cant outdo twitter

[pastel shale]

i cant even tell if thats satirical or not

[forest sigil]

I just kno republicans really wanted joe to stay in and they are panicking that kamala is in

[trim flicker]

Yeah

[marsh oracle]

Apparently they thought they could afford to pick vance to boost their base cause they thought biden was so weak

Now he seems like a terrible pick

Well, even more than before

[forest sigil]

they literally got the dude from ohio to be announced as VP in Michigan lol

cant make it up

[eager parrot]

they're still going to try state by state for ballot access

especially since a lot of those laws are old and pretty inflexible for such a situation like this

[pale flower]

Phineas & Ferb theme song but it goes THERE'S A 104 DAYS TILL US ELECTIONSSS

Idk I think there's not a lot of time to campaign but if Harris pulls it off that's gonna be crazy

[marsh oracle]

The dnc hasnt happened yet, how is this about state ballots?

[eager parrot]

while it has a very low chance of success, state ballot issues especially those with certain deadlines, could have the laws and regulations being changed regardless of DNC. generally though state laws don't care how parties choose their nominees for president, so it won't be an issue in most cases. but I still expect a lot state and federal lawsuits after a sudden upheaval like this, especially with how hyperpartisan everything has become.

my own state's governor specifically worked this year to prevent any funny business with regards to ballot access to make sure nobody can deny the DNC's routines.

Same for alabama's governor, so yeah it won't be an issue but GOP has money to spare so they'll try for the theatrics.

[trim flicker]

Yeah even before Biden dropping the Heritage Foundation was planning on suing to keep Biden on the ballot on certain states if this happened

[oak lodge]

hyper partisan hmm.

[trim flicker]

Also shows how afraid they were of going against anyone but Biden on this cycle lol

Even before he dropped

[forest sigil]

https://x.com/dpakman/status/1815174673015128430?t=LCxB6bQe-jdFJVcteuPw-Q&s=19

David Pakman (@dpakman) on X

If the election were rigged, or even could be rigged, there would be no reason for Biden to drop out, right?

Twitter · Jul 21, 2024, 11:59 PM

[oak lodge]

folding the hand

[proud tulip]

sorry

I do wonder if Harris will actually try and bring the political elements back to politics. Or is that ironically a bad idea for her with the state of things currently

[ruby helm]

Her biggest free policy win is abortion, its toxic for republicans for swing voters who decide the elections, for rights women have had for decades to suddenly have disappeared, following the new supreme court ruling from a conservative court.

Many republicans aren't helping their party win either by making statements supporting the decision.

[forest sigil]

it's why you see them try to distance away from Project 2025 so hard because it's so unpopular. Even though it's virtually impossible for them to now anyways.

[proud tulip]

yeah trump denying he knew what it was didn't work too well

[forest sigil]

the announcement of Biden stepping aside has basically killed any post-RNC excitement from Republicans. They based the whole thing around Joe, Trump is now refusing to debate Kamala and they cant use the same talking points towards her.

it also has re-energized Democratic support

[proud tulip]

you guys got this

[forest sigil]

it's gonna be close

[proud tulip]

i assume it won't be as much of a landslide as our victory, but I still think Trump has done enough shit to lose enough support

the cult is loud but as long as people turn up to vote i think Dems will win

[hoary charm]

there's still the final boss to contend with: media propping trump up because it helps ratings

[forest sigil]

my friend that studies elections swears to me he thought it would be 270-268 so Idk what will change now with the new presumed nominee

[proud tulip]

hoping Harris/Dems can rally enough of people "i'm not too bothered so I won't vote" people

[forest sigil]

well you have those and the "they dont align 100% with me, so I wont vote"

[proud tulip]

true

[forest sigil]

even though they arent thinking of the bigger picture, which they should

[proud tulip]

yeah it's a shame

[forest sigil]

single issue voters always get me, because there's just so much that rides on the outcomes of elections

both foreign and domestic

[last eagle]

the mediaplay going to be impactful

[proud tulip]

yeah voting can't be so granular

[proud tulip]

true, i feel it has much less weight on the younger gens but idk the exact age demographic in US

[forest sigil]

IIRC the younger demographic has broken records in consecutive elections for tunrout

[proud tulip]

nice

ours was good this time round

[ocean vigil]

I would be worried about the single issue voters with the zoomers

Hopefully that's just the twitter bubble

[forest sigil]

you gotta think how many of those can actually vote

either not 18 yet or not US citizens

[proud tulip]

yeah, also when it comes to young people voting, i feel like thats actually more like 21-25 than 18-21

not to say no one between 18 and 21 votes, but people seem to care less when theyre still younger

[forest sigil]

saw a guy I know who is Canadian saying they wont vote for Biden, like dude come on lol

[proud tulip]

lmaooo

reminded me of this

[forest sigil]

this was back in april

here's the full poll from Harvard if you want to read https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/47th-edition-spring-2024

[blazing depot]

Fucking boomers, man

[forest sigil]

your age demo

[ocean vigil]

says the dog from the fifties

[blazing depot]

Excuse you, I'm a proud millenial

[forest sigil]

I fought in wars thank you very much

[blazing depot]

You weren't the best of pilots tbh

[forest sigil]

I survived so technically I was one of the best

[proud tulip]

yeahhhh, more than 50% on the tories and the super tories

pains me a lot that farage has a seat in parliament

my parents weren't going to vote, until I was like, but its free and we can get rid of the tories

[forest sigil]

I firmly believe voting should be mandatory

[proud tulip]

I'd agree

[clear tide]

no please, i would vote without any knowledge and so would tons of others that have absolutely no interest in politics

[proud tulip]

Parties always put out a booklet of their main points and things they want to do, that's all you'd need to read for the people running in your area to be informed

^ (in UK and im assuming europe anyway)

[clear tide]

never seen one here come through the mailbox

we don't read anytihng that comes anyways. my dad uses the newspaper to fold his cigs without dirtying the table

[blazing depot]

Non voters are the main reason for populists getting into power, so... you know. Don't complain later.

[proud tulip]

true

hope all the non voters on brexit feel bad

[clear tide]

can imagine non voters made to vote will just vote whoever is the loudest

or already has the most at that point

[ocean vigil]

there are always tools that let you input your opinions and tell you what parties have those in their platform

[blazing depot]

But that would take 5 precious minutes

[clear tide]

they dont use them now, why use them when made to vote. most still will not be botherd and just want it out of the way.

[proud tulip]

I feel like classes related to politics would be really useful in schools

I definitely got more invested when I became more of an independent adult

but it's so important to everyones daily lives even if you don't think it is

[forest sigil]

there needs to be an uk version of schoolhouse rock

[blazing depot]

I'd argue that if people had to go vote (and by extension would get time off work to go do that) theyd be more inclined to do the bare minimum of something like those "who do I align with" things

[grave shore]

yes we have this in Finland

[ruby helm]

nonvoters voting for the party that has "people shouldn't be required to vote" in their manifesto, to win the nonvoter vote

[clear tide]

maybe schools having a once a year teacher about politics coming to just tell them something about it for 90 mins would make a big difference.
had a police officer come once and tell their story once. so maybe short, but strong would work

[blazing depot]

There's... issues with that

That's a very different thing from an actual teacher teaching a politics class (which is a thing in Germany as well btw)

[oak lodge]

they have people come into campuses pretty prevalently lol

and it's pretty divisive when it's political, their antics I mean

[forest sigil]

people mad here that they dont teach stuff like "doing taxes" but I had that class and everyone hated it or said it was a waste of time. Gotta learn whether you like it or not.

[proud tulip]

yep

also amazing comment on a thread about biden lmao

[oak lodge]

Some classes cannot be made enjoyable haha

unfortunate

[forest sigil]

technically it was Nixon

[clear tide]

tbf, idk how those are, but most things learned at school never came back outside of it

alot of material is also quite dated

[oak lodge]

unfortunately that's how all of general education is

[forest sigil]

still gotta offer the class so it can be said that the information was there. If you are an adult you gotta be an active participant in the world. If you dont you really dont have any room to complain.

[marsh oracle]

Is this not what civics classes are

[oak lodge]

it is yes

but the talk of [that topic] not existing in education makes me question if it's that universal in the first place

[clear tide]

never heard of it

[last eagle]

what if all the knowledges we have internationally that sourced from americans weren't true at all

[x-files theme play]

[oak lodge]

the mistake was investing that much faith in the world superpower

[forest sigil]

@proud tulip https://vxtwitter.com/DannyParkinson/status/1815084737519591547

[last eagle]

well

there's one even wilder
https://x.com/kirawontmiss/status/1815105715117437367

kira 👾 (@kirawontmiss) on X

The Simpsons are back at it again

Twitter · Jul 21, 2024, 7:25 PM

we'll see if this is true

[pale flower]

LMFAO

Seems like this was 5 days ago though no?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hztBsYUQvMA Oh but this one's from 6 months ago LOL

[dire canopy]

so the republicans campaign was basically fuck biden what are they gonna do now?

[trim flicker]

lose hopefully

[marsh oracle]

Lots of coping and seething so far

Personal favorite is "the republican party should be compensated for wasting money to campaign against biden"

[toxic spoke]

the funniest part of that post is the "Just askin'?" at the end, he's so butthurt

[toxic spoke]

yeah it was the biggest day, before that was 2020

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1815169070066458661?t=-MUHbcbc5bwegbQ63fvS1A&s=19

Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) on X

Poor guy is very emotional tonight.

Twitter · Jul 21, 2024, 11:36 PM

Just askin?

[grave shore]

if your entire campaign is just fighting the other candidate then you didnt have much of a campaign in the first place

[blazing depot]

You mean they're not running on policy?

[oak lodge]

in similar words he took a look at the Project 2025 pamphlet and said "damn, these people are hardcore" while having zero input

policy? Not a single thought

[pale flower]

LOL

[eager parrot]

okay to be fair that's both sides in this.

[pale flower]

Well one of those candidates is still "in the fight" so

[proud tulip]

he absolutely did not write that btw

[trim flicker]

many such cases

[marsh oracle]

I recently came across his nucular speech again

Very inspiring

[eager parrot]

he did though

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112826696160137948

[proud tulip]

i mean more someone in his team wrote it for him

[eager parrot]

I don't know, he has a very long history of doing his own tweets long before he was even a republican

[proud tulip]

he can't write in full sentences

[eager parrot]

fair lol

[trim flicker]

Sometimes his tweet do feel like someone writing like they're mimicking the way he speaks

[last eagle]

https://fixvx.com/creepydotorg/status/1815844247750246555

[blazing depot]

If you can outrun it it ain't huge

[forest sigil]

Those people sure aren't in a hurry

[shadow elbow]

must be staged

[ocean vigil]

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/24/crowdstrike-offers-a-10-apology-gift-card-to-say-sorry-for-outage/

On Wednesday, some of the people who posted about the gift card said that when they went to redeem the offer, they got an error message saying the voucher had been canceled. When TechCrunch checked the voucher, the Uber Eats page provided an error message that said the gift card “has been canceled by the issuing party and is no longer valid.”

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1815574940176806226

Classy

Didn't really pay attention to Vance that much before, but I guess I didn't miss too much

[thorny schooner]

holding my diet mtn dew rn shaking….

[trim flicker]

lmao

they're also already freaking out and asking their representatives to PLEASE not be racist against kamala

they can't contain themselves

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/24/republican-leaders-avoid-racist-and-sexist-attacks-kamala-harris

things looking kinda hopeful ngl

[toxic spoke]

drinking my diet mtn dew #cancelme

[oak lodge]

this is mildly amusing

[dreamy ledge]

I really miss when politics used to be boring... can't even remember when that was

[blazing depot]

Apparently she's polling pretty well, too (not that polling means too much, but you know)

[trim flicker]

It also revitalized the voter base when it comes to donations apparently, her campaign got like 100 milion USD in one day in grassroot funding (?)
I don't remember the figure exactly but it was about 80-100$ mil in small donations in a day

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/tippitytoptweet/status/1816232864243147112

this is the first time i saw this warning

"Stay tuned"
"This is a manipulated media"

[brave pelican]

i would say they should just fully integrate threads into ig but threads is also kinda ass in its own way

[trim flicker]

Instagram is already bloated as hell

[brave pelican]

i think instagram is just an unfunny space tbh

bring all the funny tweeters to threads

[fringe juniper]

kamala chat lmao

[forest sigil]

the big thing is some of the more recent ones have been showing trump losing more ground. I would be cautious looking at some polls because they are funded by conservative think tanks. The biggest thing going for Kamala right now is that there is a lot of energy and enthusiasm for her. It has unified and mobilized large swathes of Democrats.

[forest sigil]

when you are being compared to these two and are worse....... https://vxtwitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1815941557478134209

[trim flicker]

I saw her speech earlier and yeah the difference in energy is crazy

things do seem to be looking up for her overall

[forest sigil]

There's been thousands of new young people registering to vote specifically for her so some good news.

[trim flicker]

I do like she specifically called out Trump's crimes and the Project 2025 stuff on it

[forest sigil]

she's definitely going to be using her prosecutor background to go after him. She's had a plan to debate him since 2020 so if they do it will be interesting.

[trim flicker]

Doubt Trump would accept that as they seem to have literally no talking points against her

Aside from being racist and misogynistic

Or just saying shes quirky and her laugh is weird

[hoary charm]

kinda funny how he cant come up with a name for her

peaked at sleepy joe

[forest sigil]

well I'm sure he does have names, but they are probably racist and sexist

[marsh oracle]

Some republican talking head is just gonna call her a slur on live TV between now and the election

[trim flicker]

They're expecting it

[forest sigil]

they sure have gotten close on Fox News!

there have been some slips that were caught

[trim flicker]

When they need to ask for their representatives to PLEASE not be racist you know what's up

[forest sigil]

just loving them all freaking out right now and the tides turning on the age debate.

[trim flicker]

Also trump saying "we're not gonna have a socialist president, especially a female" was wild

[marsh oracle]

Vance going after people without children gotta be a top 10 dumbest campaign moves

[trim flicker]

Literally the only thing they're able to do is be either racist, misogynistic or both

[forest sigil]

she really needs to hit on her VP pick and have them go on the offensive.

[marsh oracle]

Gonna be Kelly or shapiro right?

[forest sigil]

most likely choices

[trim flicker]

He's gonna call her DEImala or something

[forest sigil]

idk if they want to take Beshear from KY just yet

I've heard that dems want Beshear to run for senator there eventually

[marsh oracle]

The first dei hire white male, theyre gonna be unstoppable

[toxic spoke]

all he's got so far is Lyin' Kamala he's lost his touch

[marsh oracle]

Isnt it laughing kamala

[forest sigil]

they've tried that and the even shorter lived Cackling Kamala

[marsh oracle]

Btw, could trump even replace vance now?

Since the rnc happened already

[forest sigil]

I think he's stuck with him because the RNC cemented the ticket

[marsh oracle]

Genius move by biden tbh

[forest sigil]

allegedly it was a Thiel and Musk pick and he took him to get the funding from both of them

[marsh oracle]

Think if kamala does win hes gonna be remembered very fondly

[forest sigil]

yeah, I think if she wins he will be looked at more favorably down the line

[blazing depot]

Definitely was the move to wait with the dropout til after the RNC by Biden. Actually good policial maneuvering

[marsh oracle]

Its getting closer https://fxtwitter.com/harrisonjaime/status/1816120550856462373

[ocean vigil]

i can't wait to see how will they try to go at Mark Kelly if he's the pick

[marsh oracle]

Bald jokes are still socially acceptable so maybe thats their out

[forest sigil]

"You guys see this Kelly guy they got for VP? Man is he bald, he supposedly was an astronaut but couldn't even make it to the moon!"

[blazing depot]

"WHat a loser, if they had sent me I would have made it there"" - Trump, probably

[marsh oracle]

The moon isnt even real

I kinda want somebody to ask JD vance which of the parents should get the additional votes per child, the father or the mother. I can guess the answer but it would make for a good sound bite

[forest sigil]

someone needs to bring up the couch to him in a debate

[marsh oracle]

VP debate on couches instead of podiums

[proud tulip]

on the topic of politics but the UK side, its so refreshing to have people actually working to improve the country again

also fuck the tories for hiding a prison crisis and calling an election so they didnt have to deal with it

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/birdhustle/status/1816475967361286510?t=2LFV75jKyIPo7bQqPsu8EQ&s=19

Bird Hustle (@birdhustle) on X

Vivian, Elon Musk's daughter, speaks on her father's lies (on Thrеаds).

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 2:09 PM

[brave pelican]

(On Threads)

[oak lodge]

Parenting is so easily done wrong.

[eager parrot]

The man clearly doesn't care about parenting, he's just pro-procreation and has fathered 12 children and lets his money raise them. First one goes against him and what he desired his children to be like, he goes on to create like 6 more spares.

[fringe juniper]

I'm voting for Kamala to save democracy 💪 (so what if she didn't get any votes) (also the prison labor thing)

[hoary charm]

vote for brainworm man, brainworms for everyone

[near jetty]

what about Jill stein shes been trying for long enough maybe she deserves it as a treat

[fringe juniper]

I'd unironically vote for either before Harris

[near jetty]

Kennedy?

[fringe juniper]

Bet

He might have wormbrain but he's less annoying and evil than Harris

[livid frigate]

you are stupid and a moron

[fringe juniper]

Peas in a pod reunited again

We just gave to hope people find Harris more unappealing the more she campaigns. Much like the 2020 primaries.

[trim flicker]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/woman-who-accused-rfk-jr-sexual-assault-says-he-apologized-by-text-2024-07-12/
The less annoying and evil guy in quesion

Rough

Maybe not the only one with wormbrain

[fringe juniper]

Opps

We'll have to settle for less annoying

And still evil

Though her criminal prosecution background is up there on the list of evil things

[near jetty]

didn't know people actually liked Kennedy

[fringe juniper]

I don't but he's polling surprisingly high iirc

Like above 5%

[hoary charm]

probably more to do with people disconnected from politics just hearing the name

rather than actually liking him

[fringe juniper]

Very likely. Could be people just picking someone that's not one of the 2 party candidates

[near jetty]

i don't mind kamala she can crack an egg one handed

[fringe juniper]

People on those egg cooker infomercials don't even need one hand

Truly the best candidate

[near jetty]

use their mind?

[fringe juniper]

There's a microwave thing I remember seeing on TV idk

Not turned on a television in years

[marsh oracle]

Why dont american third parties only ever show up for the presidential races? Dont think ive heard of a green or libertarian congress member, maybe start there?

[blazing depot]

Well, there's independents

[marsh oracle]

Yes?

Im saying third parties gotta start governing or representint locally just like small parties do in every other country

[trim flicker]

Yeah you gotta build up

[marsh oracle]

But instead every 4 years they nominate some niche candidate with niche political stances to siphon some 1-3% of votes away and so people can complain about the 2 party system again

[hoary charm]

libertarians are very serious

[trim flicker]

jesus

[fringe juniper]

Make me libertarian candidate

Ez W

[eager parrot]

because money

american election cycles are just a transfer of wealth process from donors to party people and their associates and contractors and such here

that's why the numbers are so mindbogglingly insane

right now, one of the main factors the candidate has to be Kamala Harris is because that's the only one of two people as nominees who can use the $320M or so in warchest they have for that campaign.

Whether she wins or not is almost irrelevant to the DNC in the grand scheme of things, they're just going through the motions to make sure that 320 million doesn't go to waste and goes from the donors to their people.

Trump and his transformation of the GOP is kind of an anomaly as far as the last many decades of American politics and the two party system have operated, otherwise both parties more or less ran the system the same way, with some differing economic or social policies but nothing transformative, and ran their election cycles and campaigns as a way of moving donor money to party people.

[blazing depot]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/jd-vance-couch-sex-rumor-explained-1235068142/

In more amusing news

[eager parrot]

poor couch

I almost read that as coach and I thought it may turn out even more amusing lol

[fringe juniper]

At least no minors were involved like that one guy....

[blazing depot]

Yeah, I'd rather have them bang couches

Though why you would put that in your memoirs....

Also, why tf does a 39yr old mostly irrelevant politician have memoirs already in the first place

[fringe juniper]

Politicians are egomaniacs. That’s why

Small town mayors probably adding their memoirs to amazon publishing lmao

[eager parrot]

men are lucky, they can totally change to a different person with beards

vance looks like somebody who would have been rejected a lot in high school or college without that beard

then again maybe not, his marine corps years were fine https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/J.D._Vance_-_U.S._Marine_Corps_Portrait.png

[fringe juniper]

nah he looks fine

[eager parrot]

his background is very typical lower class ohioan, kind of feel bad

[fringe juniper]

Ohio is a meme but everyone i've met from there has been super nice

[eager parrot]

ohio itself is hell, the people are very nice usually

okay so it looks like his law prof during his first year convinced him to write that memoir because of a relatively rough childhood and upbringing

quite well educated too

if he wasn't tied to trump, people wouldn't look at him so mockingly

[fringe juniper]

[eager parrot]

like this is the kind of person the demcorats really should have had on their ticket

lower class upbringing with very relatable story and experience, marine corps combat veteran with several medals, went to college on gi bill, bachelors in philosophy and polisci, yale law degree, seemingly happily married, visible minority wife with two mixed children

he just happens to be trump's VP pick, so he's poisoned now

[blazing depot]

He also, you know, spouts some of the worst political policy nonsense

[eager parrot]

his memoir was even adopted into a film lol

[fringe juniper]

bring back tim kaine so people remember he exists

[eager parrot]

no I get that, he's a complete rookie politically

[blazing depot]

Last thing Democrats need is more "Democrats" only in name of ticket

[eager parrot]

he only entered politics in 2021

[trim flicker]

so much education for none of that to manifest on the stuff he says

[eager parrot]

and got into senate starting in 2023...

[trim flicker]

crazy

[eager parrot]

so he's just green af when it comes to politics

and probably basically only says what he's fed by the trump campaign people now

and some of his past stuff is pure GOP fed stuff

[fringe juniper]

Much like all the politicians and their thinktanks

[marsh oracle]

They have Kelly for impressive bullet points

[eager parrot]

precisely, rarely do you get some kind of unfiltered stream of consciousness like we've been able to get from Trump and early on from Biden lol

[fringe juniper]

"I believe [whatever will get votes in swing states]"

• Candidate of current year

[eager parrot]

indeed

and almost none of them follow through with any of their promises

if democrats followed up after getting power with even a tenth of what they often promise, demcrat controlled american cities would have been heaven

republicans are full of shit to start with so I don't expect much from them anyway lol

[fringe juniper]

Primaries are so comical for that reason

[marsh oracle]

[fringe juniper]

Ultra rich candidate from the coasts pretending to care about Iowa

[marsh oracle]

Unfortunately the president is not a king and needs the legislative to do their job

Biden cant do much when trump calls on republicans to block the bipartisan border bill

[eager parrot]

there have been a number of ~2 year periods in the past 2-3 decades when democrats or republicans had supermajority of the house, senate, and the white house

and yet the infighting continued and nothing really got done

in either side's favor

for better or worse

[blazing depot]

The Democrat super wasn't one in reality because 2 senators were effectively Republicans

[trim flicker]

There's no real denying that both parties will just serve the interests of capital

[fringe juniper]

Dems used their super majority for "healthcare" i'm exempt from

[eager parrot]

fair on the biden front, but obama had one too and all he did was pass a hobbled, messy, private insurance companies' pleasing health care act

despite all the promises to do a proper universal healthcare

neither could even pass a gun control act

they had TWO years of complete control each

[marsh oracle]

The only recent supermajority I remember was Obama early on (which also wasnt one due to timeline reasons) and that was only the senate

[blazing depot]

No point in that with the current Supreme Court

[eager parrot]

also fair

though supreme court really is only interpreting the constitution, not really making contradictory rulings.
if there's consensus to stop that, they have to change the constitution

but it's not gonna happen, not in this political climate

[blazing depot]

Except they're flagrantly not any more but just making policy instead

[fringe juniper]

Obamacare is just "buy health care of pay a little money not to" lol

[blazing depot]

Completely unbiased of course

[eager parrot]

to be fair, they are dismantling precedent rather than defining new policy, they are specifically trying to move power back to congress from the presidential administration and the regulatory bodies

but they are doing that fully aware that congress is dysfunctional

so we end up in this state of things

[fringe juniper]

That’s on congress and the people that elect them

The ol' everyone hates congress but loves their congressman

[marsh oracle]

Hahahahahahahhhhahahagag

The supreme court just made up a criminal immunity for the president out of thin air

[trim flicker]

Very creative interpretation of the constitution

[fringe juniper]

Congress job yet again

[blazing depot]

If Democrats win again and somehow have majority in the chambers theyy just need to stop being chicken shits and expand that court + add term limits

[marsh oracle]

Also love one of the concurrences off hand mentioning the special counsel possibly being unconstitutional, which has nothing to do with the case at hand, which judge cannon then cites to throw out the documents case

Very cool

[blazing depot]

Next thing you say is this seems sorta biased and corrupt

[marsh oracle]

Nah both sides bad

[fringe juniper]

Expanding the court will def not be abused

[blazing depot]

Expanding the court has happened multiple times in the past, it's perfectly normal.

[fringe juniper]

We'll all be on the court like everyone was in Wu Tang

[blazing depot]

But honestly more important than expanding is term limits

[trim flicker]

I played most Ace Attorney games i can probably do a decent job there

[fringe juniper]

I can totally agree on that

[blazing depot]

But do you have a helpful ghost to guide you through your cross examination

[trim flicker]

Unfortunately no convenient plot ghost to me

Or any spirit mediums

Maybe i should hit up that min heejin shaman

[fringe juniper]

[blazing depot]

Yeah, was about to say, spirit mediums are definitely accessible

But they need to be from a remote mountain village where only spirit mediums live

[trim flicker]

Gotta remind myself to play Great Ace Attorney eventually

[fringe juniper]

I, a spiritual leader

I already tell people I'm the chief

so why not

[eager parrot]

we could really use that across the board in the US

I just can't see them being able to expand the court, but both age limits and term limits for supreme court judges, for district court judges, appeals court judges, for congressmen and senators, etc. would be real damn nice

all elected and appointed positions

[eager parrot]

I wasn't really referring to that ruling, and media interpretations of it doesn't really paint a good picture, but the ruling is really just vague and leaves it up to the lower courts to do something with it to send it back up again to keep the supreme court busy and relevant

more so their other rulings since 2020 has been leaning towards dismantling existing precedents where it is ambiguous and instead trying to force congress to come up with very specific laws instead in a timely and up to date manner.

[marsh oracle]

Do you really think the supreme court of the united states has to keep things unexplained to keep itself relevant?

[ruby helm]

when they add term limits and by chance, all the democrat judges terms expire when the republicans are in power resulting in the 9 republican judge supreme court

[blazing depot]

Wouldn't make much of a difference compared to now

[toxic spoke]

not like manchin or sinema would vote to pack the court anyways

[marsh oracle]

I guess the DNC is playing 4d chess this time. Trump saying he wont debate kamala cause not even obama has endorsed her, kamalas campaign less than a day later https://fxtwitter.com/BarackObama/status/1816760809193677069

[ocean vigil]

https://fixupx.com/AP/status/1816569144000630817

[hoary charm]

peak america

[marsh oracle]

They somehow managed to outdo the immunity decision

[trim flicker]

of course it's ohio

[last eagle]

Ohio be ohio-ing

[blazing depot]

Brilliant, now they can sell boneless wings and "Boneless wings, but actually"

[last eagle]

don't trust the "boneless" chickens

even yourself

[marsh oracle]

In germany we call that "wings nach boneless art"

[blazing depot]

kek

"May contain traces of bones"

[ocean vigil]

In a 4-3 ruling, the Supreme Court said Thursday that “boneless wings” refers to a cooking style, and that Berkheimer should’ve been on guard against bones since it’s common knowledge that chickens have bones.

“A diner reading ‘boneless wings’ on a menu would no more believe that the restaurant was warranting the absence of bones in the items than believe that the items were made from chicken wings, just as a person eating ‘chicken fingers’ would know that he had not been served fingers,” Justice Joseph T. Deters wrote for the majority.

[nova holly]

brain hurts reading that

[blazing depot]

Well yeah, but the whole point of buying boneless wings is to not have bones

[last eagle]

okay whoever suggested that they should put bones in boneless shall warrant a boney nightmare

[ocean vigil]

you don't have to tell me

[blazing depot]

Otherwise you'd buy regular wings

[forest sigil]

let me buy some bone-in wings but remove the bones pls

[nova holly]

thats what boneless wings should be

this is nuggets with marketing

[blazing depot]

Just buy tenders instead, problem solved

[forest sigil]

no

[ocean vigil]

“The question must be asked: Does anyone really believe that the parents in this country who feed their young children boneless wings or chicken tenders or chicken nuggets or chicken fingers expect bones to be in the chicken? Of course they don’t,” Justice Michael P. Donnelly wrote in dissent. “When they read the word ‘boneless,’ they think that it means ‘without bones,’ as do all sensible people.”

[last eagle]

only in ohio buying boneless chicken is the same thing as buying regular chicken

...cmon donelly

[blazing depot]

Can't wait for this to go to the actual supreme court

And right wingers going "Only woke libtards expect no bones in their wings, real Americans know better"

[ocean vigil]

Donnelly with the mistake of thinking that other people on supreme court would be sensible

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/PopBase/status/1816439605601636358

#girlboss

And unlike Trump with... well, any of the songs he uses besides Kid Rock & Smashmouth she actually got the ok from queen B

[marsh oracle]

Banger ad tbh

[blazing depot]

She hit all the important beats in it

[near jetty]

as a connoisseur of wings I will not be ordering any while in Ohio if I ever have the misfortune of entering that state

[last eagle]

inb4 rib-less steak

[blazing depot]

That only makes sense with very specific kinds of steak

[oak lodge]

that ruling is not as disappointing as machine-sorted "boneless meat" already is lol

especially being that in order for it to actually be better -- you'd have to take it up with corporations and food industry as it already sits.

This is a conservative (inaction) compromise and also slightly displeasing to see there will be no innovation.

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/korea_gookmin/status/1816676238674813174

Lee Jaemyung: "What is the main problem of South Korea right now?"
People: "Yoon Sukyeol!!!"
Lee Jaemyung: "...Population Decline"

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/07/secure-boot-is-completely-compromised-on-200-models-from-5-big-device-makers/

[eager parrot]

France olympics opening ceremony had moments that had me wondering if it was taken from hunger games panem/capital city cuts or actually Paris.

[trim flicker]

Damn forgot the Olympics were even happening

[fringe juniper]

Intel moment

[eager parrot]

There's surprisingly little "hype" for the olympics among my social circles, it's odd. Maybe because everybody cut cable tv or something lol

or we're all too busy trying to make ends meet.

[grave shore]

as someone who works specifically with supply chain security and PKI/certificats... I can't believe what I'm reading

these companies are doing everything so wrong

[eager parrot]

something something complex systems something something competence crisis

it's actually pretty sad to read about these things on a recurring basis and possibly at an increasing frequency

[grave shore]

it is sad, because I'm sure there are competent security experts around

probably more to do with management or budget

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/Acyn/status/1817007890496102490

Subtle

[trim flicker]

Ah yes the most democratic country "fixing" voting

[toxic spoke]

he's said this before, I guess it got media attention this time

[trim flicker]

Yeah the media coverage has been pretty good for Kamala overall from what I've seen? Not only for her but also how Trump and his campaign are getting more pushback overall, Vance having negative approval on their own base

[blazing depot]

Vance is a disaster for approval ratings it seems

[fringe juniper]

The media

[hoary charm]

watch them spin this as he was meaning he doesnt care what happens in the next election since he wont be able to run again due to term limits, assuming he wins this one

[trim flicker]

Their big plan is to lose heavily so they can say it's clearly even more rigged so they can storm the capital again

[fringe juniper]

[blazing depot]

If Trump loses again it'd be rather stupid to not have the national guard there from the start this time, preventing just that

[trim flicker]

Yeah they'd 100% preemptively put tons of security there lol

[toxic spoke]

it's the most forgiving framing, that or a "you won't have a country anymore" angle. even if he's 100% distancing himself from project 2025 and respects the term limit, his own campaign manifesto Agenda 47 makes it clear he wants to replace federal employees with MAGA people and overhaul the district courts/doj/fbi and you see where that leads.

[last eagle]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/south-korea-wrongly-introduced-as-north-korea-at-olympics/ar-BB1qIbdD?ocid=BingNewsSerp

...how

[fringe juniper]

Is NK even there?

If so, RIP their team

[dusky rapids]

lmao

[blazing depot]

AT least our German commentators got it right, lol

[blazing depot]

I mean, if you had read the article and not just the headline you'd know

[nova holly]

article is dead for me

but yeah it was just the announcer

[nova holly]

imagine if they got the actual signage wrong

[blazing depot]

For your convenience

[nova holly]

143 athletes is pretty low

they usually have way more

[fringe juniper]

Sorry next time I will learned to reading

[blazing depot]

In Tokyo they had 230+ yeah

Must be a bunch of team sports that didn't qualify

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/TeddyRoosevalt/status/1816578605876674651?t=BeWMmV9XT3oVohn84MSrhw&s=19

Teddy (@TeddyRoosevalt) on X

The JD Vance couch tweets are absolutely elite. Haven’t laughed this hard in a while

Here’s a thread of some of my favorites

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 8:57 PM

[forest sigil]

wait till they see the dolphin ones now

been reported that Trump's idiot sons threw a temper tantrum because he didnt want to pick JD Vance and basically forced his hand

[blazing depot]

That sentence doesn't make sense to me

Auto correct be like

[forest sigil]

allegedly Musk was a part of it too, but who knows

he doesnt feel like a temper tantrum, more like a whiner/complainer

[blazing depot]

So the jokes that he picked Vance because Don Jr. Who basically looks the same annoyed him might be true

[forest sigil]

he's doing worse than Sarah Palin was at the moment lol

[marsh oracle]

You love to see it

And he cant even replace him

[blazing depot]

Good ol' Sarah "I can see Russia from where my house is on a clear day" Palin

Still no idea how McCain of all people picked her

[hoary charm]

musk and thiel being involved would make sense

probably explains why a bunch of SF VCs are suddenly openly pro trump now too

[oak lodge]

the only motive that makes sense for this ever being a realistic sequence is if a majority of conservatives are Patriot LARPing lol (they are)

Social policy as with their lead guy is an afterthought

[trim flicker]

yep

i was just making a joke cause that's like the most ridiculous scenario

altho they'll definitely pull the rigged card if they lose again

[marsh oracle]

I mean they already are pulling the rigged card

[blazing depot]

Would be nice if the US could just return to at least having normal elections with, you know, the other side admitting defeat and not everything getting challenged in court

But it do be banana republic vibes every time

[marsh oracle]

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-state-election-board-0141f8011dc9e7c054ed73f63dbf5f58

[blazing depot]

They're trying to prevent those pesky black voters from winning Georgia for the Dems again I presume

[forest sigil]

There was a poll where Trump got exactly 0% of Black Voters

Genuinely hilarious

[marsh oracle]

Impressive

[forest sigil]

Also since Biden dropped out 100K new people have registered to vote

[marsh oracle]

The shift in energy has been crazy

[blazing depot]

Almost like this old sack of shit vs. sorta likeable but senile grandpa business was tiresome for many

[marsh oracle]

Probably equal parts that and jd vance attacking cat ladies

Well known that you dont mess with that demographic

[forest sigil]

Dems have been going on the offensive nonstop since which is refreshing

[blazing depot]

They finally stopped playing the nice guys?

[forest sigil]

Was tired of the "they go low, we go high" mindset

[trim flicker]

yeah thank god

the shift in energy from them is pretty nice

[forest sigil]

Kamala's team has just been straight up calling Trump a predator, abuser, and fraud. Meanwhile, they are just calling JD Vance a weird misogynist.

[marsh oracle]

The campaign cant really call him a couch fucker so they gotta settle for that

[blazing depot]

And somehow none of those things are exaggerations or lies

[forest sigil]

Oh grumpy, there's been a new development in the JD Vance weirdness news

[blazing depot]

Weirder than couch fucker?

[forest sigil]

Ye

Also way worse

[blazing depot]

Just how

Please not minors again

[ocean vigil]

i saw something about dolphins

did myself a favour and did not dig in further

[forest sigil]

Just Google his name and rollingstone monkey

[blazing depot]

[marsh oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[blazing depot]

Well... suffice to say that'll lose him the PETA votes

Yikes

[forest sigil]

It's crazy to think he might actually be worse than Palin

[blazing depot]

Isn't that pretty much a locked in fact by now

[forest sigil]

Well he is sitting at a net negative it can only go up from here!

[blazing depot]

Unless Kamala somehow picks someone worse than him, and she's not that stupid

[ocean vigil]

i don't think mtg would accept it

struggling to think of others that fulfil that criteria

[forest sigil]

Governor of Minnesota gas been popping up recently as a VP to her. She realistically has a good crop of choices.

[ocean vigil]

kelly just feels like a slam dunk

[marsh oracle]

Last I saw the final 3 are Kelly, shapiro and walz

[forest sigil]

All 3 have their pros and cons but they have way more pros

[blazing depot]

straight white male still seems the optimal choice for obvious demographic reasons

[marsh oracle]

Shapiro has high meme potential with ben shapiro tho

[marsh oracle]

DEI hire

[forest sigil]

Kelly would be good for gun control and veteran related stuff

[blazing depot]

Isn't that a reverse-DEI hrie

[marsh oracle]

Nah

[ocean vigil]

you need to think like someone that is into couches

[blazing depot]

Actually on that note, lmao

[marsh oracle]

But it cant be buttigeig

Gotta be straight and white

[forest sigil]

buttigeig would be a great secretary of state

[marsh oracle]

Oh also happily married, bonus points for veteran

[forest sigil]

it is shocking how hard Trump/Vance have been fumbling since RNC

every thing that trump says fuels Harris voters more

[marsh oracle]

i feel for them, they thought they had an easy fight against a guy people thought has dementia

now they actually have to campaign

[trim flicker]

i could see a gay man being a good pick considering how the campaign is going (as the GOP has no idea of what to do and would literally just say a bunch homophobic shit)

[blazing depot]

He's basically achieving what he wanted to prevent the most, mobilize non-voters (who tend to vote Dem)

[trim flicker]

but idk much about buttigeig

could probably mobilize more voters too i guess

[forest sigil]

idk how "undecided" voters would like buttigeig

[trim flicker]

but a straight white dude is definitely the safe pick everyone is expecting

[forest sigil]

I do find it refreshing that whenever Trump says an obvious lie or something like "Obama doesnt even want to endorse Harris" the campaign immediately refutes that

[fringe juniper]

buttigeig lmao

[blazing depot]

They're probably all just waiting for Trump to say "X doesn't endorse her" to then immediately endorse her

[forest sigil]

you just know he's malding at all the positive media attention he has lost

dude got shot and no one cares outside of his base

[marsh oracle]

even the assassination story is now about how he didnt actually get shot

[forest sigil]

it was like a fragment

[blazing depot]

That was pretty much clear the day of, just got buried

[marsh oracle]

ye but he claimed his ear was destroyed lmao

[blazing depot]

What was it, a teleprompter piece?

[forest sigil]

dude and his ear just looks fine

theory is that it was either a bullet fragment or glass shard

[blazing depot]

Like, if your ear gets shot it don't look like that

[fringe juniper]

mmm conspiracy theories

[blazing depot]

Those aren't really theories

[marsh oracle]

whats the conspiracy there

we have seen his ear, its completely fine

[fringe juniper]

it was clearly the magic bullet that hit jfk

[forest sigil]

it's just crazy how the script as been completely flipped in the last month

[marsh oracle]

for sure

[forest sigil]

grassroots support has been exciting to see

[fringe juniper]

idk i've mostly seen 2 year old photos claiming to be new

Reverse image searching the reddit front page has been fun lately

[blazing depot]

Re: Kelly though, would it really be a good idea for Dems to potentially lose the AZ senate seat?

[forest sigil]

think the reason they would be ok with it is that if it helps secure the election, then it is worth it

[marsh oracle]

isnt he getting replaced by the governor who is a dem or is that the other guy?

[forest sigil]

Governor would appoint someone to finish his term

and the governor is a dem so

the other AZ senate seat that is up for election is for Sinema's seat. Whoever wins that is there until 2030

[blazing depot]

That's not a democrat seat anyway

[eager parrot]

it really is crackpot conspiracy theories that he didn't get shot with a bullet.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-bullet-shrapnel-ronny-jackson-christopher-wray-cb780b9d1a078f0be4191682e75101cf

and you can go to the actual cspan video to see the teleprompters perfectly intact right after, around 40s mark
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5123735/shots-fired-trump-rally

you would have to be consuming a particular brand of American media on the deep end to believe any of that

[trim flicker]

yeah i remember there was a lot of misinfo going around the day it happened, it barely hit his ear, hit a prompter that broke and hit his ear, etc

[eager parrot]

I say this as nicely as I can put it, because I can see both sides of it within my own family and friends as well as upbringing, the European perspective on American matters and politics is so severely skewed, it often does not reflect reality on the ground here, and even when it does, it's highly limited by geography of where it is reality and the social classes it applies to.

And the converse of that, American perspective on European politics, is basically nonexistent and completely uninformed, ignorant and probably apathetic.

[blazing depot]

I've been (sometimes more, sometimes less) loosely following national politics in the US for the better part of 2 1/2 decades now, I think I'm good, local politics I'm not gonna pretend I know much. I don't see how that relates to Trump actually getting shot though when there were actual news reports about the FBI still being in the process of confirming that (and not Mr.IHateTrump123 on twt or something), like it literally got officially confirmed and reported less than 24 hrs ago.
Seems like a very weird aside to insert the "You Europeans don't know shit" angle here.

[oak lodge]

apathy to foreign political fronts is correct on a very general scale across all countries

[fringe juniper]

A good amount of people decided it was fake immediately. Legitimately scary how people are denying what’s right in front of them.

[forest sigil]

https://x.com/abughazalehkat/status/1817229287222591712?t=Om3VjuCtV_zIUG89Ko8jhw&s=19

Kat Abu (@abughazalehkat) on X

the debate was exactly one month ago. trump got shot 2 weeks ago. he picked vance 10 days ago. kamala harris started running 6 days ago. the jd vance couch article was 3 days ago.

how is it only july and how was that only 30 days of news

Twitter · Jul 27, 2024, 4:03 PM

[trim flicker]

yep

[oak lodge]

someone talking about this stuff in automotive discord posted this meme lol

[trim flicker]

Afaik i have no moot like that
thankfully

[fringe juniper]

hmmm

[blazing depot]

Yeah, same... I think

Granted, most sane people would not just openly admit to something like this

[trim flicker]

Yeah I can't say 100%

[oak lodge]

answering questions like that depend solely on the content's explicit-ness or in this case, the dumb honesty of a given person.
It may also depend on who's asking

[marsh oracle]

That he didnt get shot? Sure. That trump was being trump and heavily exaggerated his injuries?

[fringe juniper]

He should have let the bullet hit his head so people wouldn’t doubt

[hoary charm]

thats how you get a civil war

[fringe juniper]

I know!

People so extremely polarized we're headed there anyway

[marsh oracle]

https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1817388529455931892

Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) on X

JD Vance does not couch his hatred for women

Twitter · Jul 28, 2024, 2:36 AM

whoever runs this account better be paid well

[trim flicker]

This is an official account actually linked to her campaign right

[trim flicker]

Checks out

They're very quick

[charred fulcrum]

...

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-firms-up-licensing-plans-for-social-media-and-messaging-platforms-effective-jan-1-2025

Motherfucker

Unnannounced, unthwarted

This government is a fucking joke

Like literally out of nowhere

[eager parrot]

that's a 5 months notice at least

[vital needle]

Thats awesome

Wish lula had the balls to do the same

[charred fulcrum]

...???

Wait how is this good?

Or did I miss the sarc

I missed the sarc didn't I?

[blazing depot]

Regulation for SNS is a good thing, he's not even wrong with that. WIth the tone of the article it feels like getting licensed involves more than that though

But if it's just about getting illegal shit of the platforms then it's very much fine

[charred fulcrum]

Malaysia has conservative + extremists religious shit there's gonna be more than JUST illegal shit

[hoary charm]

you're replying to a commie, and commies aren't known for liking free speech

[charred fulcrum]

Watch me not be able to to chat with y'all per 1 Jan 2025 because I am conversing with someone not Muslim

[blazing depot]

Free speech does not involve hate speech and illegal shit, simple as that

That American "I can say whatever tf I want without consequence" angle is a load of bs

[charred fulcrum]

Oh no, saying shit has consequences, that I support

[hoary charm]

good thing no one made that point then

[charred fulcrum]

It's the thing with my cabinet where they are VERY open about their extremisms

"BLOCK KPOP CONCERTS, THEY'RE THE CAUSE OF OUR YOUTH'S LACK OF SELF FAITH"

Yes, that was one of the parliament talking topics

So giving them any semblance of major authority to popular social media platforms will always end up getting entertainment content getting regulated/banned

And I am 100% against that

[marsh oracle]

Well what if we had a dictator but he was a good guy

[charred fulcrum]

They're racists within our country's multiracial culture

[hoary charm]

what would your job on the revolutionary leftist commune be

[charred fulcrum]

Legit they blocked a hoster trying to host a concert because "Muslim youths could be affected/strayed"

They forgot we are a multilreligion country too

[marsh oracle]

Professional doom scroller

[charred fulcrum]

So yeah no, they will use this to inject their religious bullshit

[marsh oracle]

Not sure why they need to regulate social media to go after online gambling and scams but alrighty

Smth smth safe the kids smth smth

[charred fulcrum]

I'd argue that's the parent's responsibility

[blazing depot]

Kids should NOT be on SNS in the first place

[marsh oracle]

Good luck transforming that prescription into a practical law

[grave shore]

yeah because who doesnt love censorship

[trim flicker]

I'm in favor of censorship for anyone i find annoying
If i block you on twitter you should lose access to social media entirely

That's how it should be fr

[clear tide]

can u block me

[vital needle]

Yeah, every means of communication is regulated and subjected to oversight, tv and radio especially. Social media shouldnt get a special pass where they get to advertise cassinos to kids or whatever happens on instagram these days

[vital needle]

Boo hoo the freeze peach

[near jetty]

Venezuela

[keen nest]

apple late to the party but i'm glad they added in the option to use my phone from the computer finally lmao

beta but already useful af

[toxic spoke]

jfc https://x.com/tedlieu/status/1818708208351150521

Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) on X

VP Harris’s fundraising is bussin fr. she understands the assignment—she’ll protect fundamental freedoms and defend democracy. no cap. donate below to maximize our joint slay:

https://t.co/Z5Oa3d9Uf2

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 6:00 PM

politicians be normal challenge

[trim flicker]

lmfao

[dusky rapids]

LOL

[last eagle]

joint slay pfft

[hoary charm]

how do you do, fellow gen alpha

[trim flicker]

they're like

very close to doing the "walk tuah poll and vote on that thang"

[half heath]

man i feel like campaigns shouldnt be so dependent on private funding even from donations. Feels like it should be part of government budget to allocate the same amount to every top party and cap it.

its so weird to think about how sports leagues have so much better restrictions to prevent tampering than the actual government

hell, NCAA put athletes under a microscope for so long, stupid that ppl with the influence of politicians arent held to that degree

[toxic spoke]

yeah Elon can just make America PAC and the election commission says it's legal for them to coordinate directly with the Trump campaign with giant donor and canvassing networks

[last eagle]

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1818639626682187955

Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) on X

#Updated Electoral Map Based on @MorningConsult

🔵 Harris 284 🏆
🔴 Trump 254

---

Polymarket Odds
https://t.co/X95VbfTk9R

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 1:27 PM

[forest sigil]

I think GA is optimistic and might switch WI with PA

atp

[marsh oracle]

The trump campaign is trying their best to give her all 3 of those at least

Gotta admit I did not expect the "she isnt actually black" attack angle

[forest sigil]

well now they are trying to do the "she wasnt actually born in the US" birtherism stuff again lol

polls and favorability are looking good for Kamala though so hopefully the trend continues

[eager parrot]

the "she isn't actually black" angle is coming straight from the RNC, and there were obvious signs they were appealing to black voters, especially young black voters during the convention with the various speakers they had.

it's one of those convoluted enough situations that they are trying to plant seeds of doubt for

[trim flicker]

The "she slept her way to the top and doesn't know what she's doing" combined with the "she's an evil crazy liberal communist mastermind" is funny

[forest sigil]

Trump sure did fumble whatever they were going for today though

[trim flicker]

literally karlmarxa harris

[eager parrot]

both sides are claiming his words to be to their benefit this time around, it really is a matter of perspective and hard to tell what impact it would have if any

[blazing depot]

Yeah, cause Birtherism worked so well the last 2 times. No one gives a fuck about those kinda nonsense accusations besides the people who are gonna vote Trump regardless of what anyone says or does

[eager parrot]

I wasn't giving my opinion on whether there's any legitimacy or potency to his words, just that both prominent GOP and prominent Democratic pundits and online personalities have been claiming Trump's words were a vindication of their side.

birthism stuff was always a very fringe and extreme side of the right in the past 20 years (although they would tell you that at least about Obama, it was Clinton campaign staffers that made that stuff up initially, allegedly in desperate times), and trump when he wasn't a politician did champion that stuff all the way up until his 2015-2016 campaign.

And the last two times, Trump wasn't running against Obama anyway,

[charred fulcrum]

this is peak r/fellowkids

[dusky rapids]

lol that actually reminds me of a sg book i saw recently in a store:
https://epigrambookshop.sg/products/mee-siam-mai-hum

was contemplating buying it for comedy's sake

i imagine a us politicians' equivalent would be the size of an encyclopedia

[clear tide]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1819106303295606839

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Intel is laying off over 10,000 employees and will cut $10 billion in costs. Intel also reported a loss of $1.6 billion in Q2 2024 due to its Foundry business and investments https://t.co/jdwnmNFlDw

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 8:21 PM

holy that is a lot

i take it their gpu department failed like crazy

right, their 13th and 14th gen also had tons of problems

[fringe juniper]

The CPU hardware issues not helping them either

Also find Intel GPUs humorous. They could compete on the low end in terms of value don't want to put out GPUs at a price point they can win at.

[oak lodge]

14th mostly and always at their flagship

i9 happen to be the most unstable thing if you don't detune it yourself and set every limit manually

[clear tide]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1819121308976005215

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Intel is laying off over 15,000 employees and will cut $10 billion in costs. Intel also reported a loss of $1.6 billion in Q2 2024 due to its Foundry business and investments https://t.co/jdwnmNFlDw

Twitter · Aug 1, 2024, 9:21 PM

add another 5k

[hoary charm]

intel kinda taking Ls from every angle

[safe ferry]

15k jesus, that's an actual bloodbath

[grave shore]

ouch

[clear tide]

saw a post of someone on that reddit thing buying 700k worth of stocks with a heritage

[grave shore]

yeah i saw that too 💀

[marsh oracle]

Oh thats why my etfs are in the red

[grave shore]

they bought 700k on intel yesterday

[grave shore]

not only intel

[marsh oracle]

Well, at least its gonna make for a lot of reddit karma

[clear tide]

never knew what amds full name was. heck didn't even know it was an abbreviation

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1819426800264474793?t=nsmmZXIAWh1YUsHOutoHXg&s=19

Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) on X

I am honored to be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. I will officially accept the nomination next week.

This campaign is about people coming together, fueled by love of country, to fight for the best of who we are.

Join us: https://t.co/abmve926Hz

Twitter · Aug 2, 2024, 5:35 PM

It's official now

Her VP pick is bound to follow this weekend

[eager parrot]

there was never really a chance for anybody else given the campaign funding laws involved, good, now they can focus on the last stretch of the campaign

[forest sigil]

The only one who even tried was Manchin and basically no delegates pledged to vote for him cause lol

[eager parrot]

any major in-fighting would have basically brought democrats' chance to win to 0, so they had to get this over with quickly

[blazing depot]

Is he still pretending to be a democrat

[forest sigil]

Well he is claiming to be independent now but still "dem"

[marsh oracle]

Bernie Sanders but the other side of the dem umbrella

[blazing depot]

As in running on a Dem ticket (if his seat is up this year anyway)

Sanders is what Democrats should be

[eager parrot]

both the right and the left in the US could really use a mitosis of their extreme and moderate sides

[marsh oracle]

[eager parrot]

or left-center and center-right separation

4 parties instead

because the democrats are simply too right-wing by most other democracies' standards

not really labor focused, not really people focused, still cooperationists

and republicans have very right-wing parts and moderate center parts

[marsh oracle]

Maybe the electorate is too right wing

[eager parrot]

it's really not though, that's why the american system often feels like an enforced uniparty

because the stuff the two parties differ on is so minute at times and irrelevant in the grand scheme of running the american government aparatus

not always, it's been a lot more polarized recently of course

[marsh oracle]

Ok ngl I cant do the both sides thing today

[eager parrot]

[blazing depot]

I'll go with the "not literal nazis" party any day

The bar in the US really is that low

[eager parrot]

hey at least it's no AfD 🤷‍♀️

though we'll get there lol

sadly

[marsh oracle]

Yea its worse

[blazing depot]

I mean no, it's worse
Way worse, lol

[trim flicker]

dramatically worse considering the impact they have on world politics in general

[eager parrot]

foreign policy rarely changes too much between democrats and republicans, just look at biden's entire term in terms of world politics and foreign relations

[trim flicker]

still nazis anyway so

[eager parrot]

they'll threaten stuff for their voter base, but never really follow through

that's certainly a perspective to call GOP literal nazis, it's that kind of view that ends up causing Trump wins, it worked out really well for Clinton calling all GOP base basket of deplorables.

[marsh oracle]

Gaza wouldnt even be a thing anymore if trump was president right now lol

[ocean vigil]

but think of all those seaside hotels

[eager parrot]

I see, how much more help do you imagine Trump's government would have provided israel that Biden's government didn't?

[marsh oracle]

Not to mention all the ukraine aid

But I told myself I wouldnt have this dumb both sides argument today and I shouldve listened to myself

[trim flicker]

I didn't really mean this in a "foreign policy" kinda way either, it's just that their platform and influence is huge
Like Bolsonaro taking a bunch of shit out of Trump's playbook, from the election denialism stuff to the covid vaccine conspiracy shit, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths here

Being close to Steve Bannon

[blazing depot]

People are using that exact line of thought in the AfD discourse btw. "But not ALL of them are nazis, just some of them! Please be civil"

[trim flicker]

Hey there's a reason why calling the GOP pundits "weird" is working in favor of Kamala's campaign
These people like feeling like they're dangerous, but if you just highlight how fucking stupid they are they start fumbling

[blazing depot]

Yeah, it's a pretty great move by the Dems

[forest sigil]

Kamala's potential VPs have all been going after the GOP hard recently

Mostly JD Vance which makes sense

[blazing depot]

SHouldn't they be doing that regardless of being VP pick

[forest sigil]

I've mostly seen Beshear, Walz, and Shapiro going after him. I haven't seen much Kelly stuff.

[marsh oracle]

The dem talent pool is surprisingly deep

[forest sigil]

Young too

Besides Walz who is 60

Progressives want either Walz or Beshear. Beshear is from the same general region so that might help.

[brave pelican]

gru is warming up

[valid magnet]

https://fixupx.com/airbagged/status/1819468715706241112?t=BgJKhpxy115_DesKq-oaqA&s=19

[last eagle]

gonna be very interesting

[blazing depot]

https://youtu.be/qbmDyqKOa0o?si=fV86hfUr98WhtdIy

Seems like a pretty accurately portrayal of how the GOP goons react to the weird angle

[grave shore]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/non-google-search-engines-blocked-from-showing-recent-reddit-results/

wtf

[hoary charm]

the internet will be flooded with ai slop and you will like it

[last eagle]

The first recipe of disaster

[nova holly]

if anyones been paying attention to the uk over the last few days

fun times

[blazing depot]

Gotta love racists hijacking tragedies for their own agenda

And at the end of the day it simply doesn't matter any more the kid who did it was as English as beans on toast

[half heath]

I wish ppl who cared about immigration cared as much about unemployment, homeless ppl, and drug addicted/mentally unwell ppl. Like I feel great seeing new immigrants who are just working towards a good life. I feel awful seeing ppl who grew up here live such disadvantaged lives.

[eager parrot]

All those issues are interconnected in one way or another. Immigration, which is just one factor or piece of the puzzle, becomes an easy scapegoat, as complex answers and solutions are not easy for people to understand and definitely not something politicians pursue.

Unemployment, homelessness, drug addiction and mental illnesses are tightly bound together as cause and effect, and mass immigration, especially the refugee/asylum seeking system feeds more into one of those four gateways and the cycle continues. Criminality is another element as well, though not as tightly bound to the rest, but only a factor.

If you aren't building enough infrastructure, whether that be healthcare facilities, schools, or housing, and you bring in more people than the system can handle, then homelessness rises, and if there are too many people and not enough job openings, unemployment rises, and if you don't vet the tens of thousands coming in, then you can't potentially filter out preexisting drug addiction and mental illnesses as well as criminal elements.

Add to that the cost of living crisis and the inflation that occurred during and continued after COVID pandemic, and the recession we're sort of in (whether they want to admit it or not), and it only exasperates everything else.

[half heath]

Yea it just feels so unproductive to scapegoat. Immigration processes are sometimes exploitable but it's rarely by those unwilling to work or have no understanding of the opportunity. If you've been around immigrants and expats in other countries, there's constant anxiety about how long they'll be able to stay, if they'll be able to become citizens, when they can see their families again back home. But even with all that they keep moving forward. Like why not channel that outrage to ask the government to invest more in infrastructure instead of making life harder for ppl already going through it. If unemployment is a result of immigrants taking jobs, don't protest them, protest the lack of infrastructure like you said. Lack of policies that are maybe not incentivizing new businesses to move in, or businesses to expand and hire more ppl. Or even maybe more incentives to move ppl away from city centers. There are opportunities away from big cities that aren't being filled. Ppl just wanna be mad at ppl who look different not actually find solutions it seems.

[proud tulip]

all of this shit is so fucking embarrassing as a Brit, these people are genuinely neanderthals at this point

[blazing depot]

I saw Casti raging on twt when it all started, too

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1820362309711372733?t=6f2xYSH5iyVPWbbOsmV-6Q&s=19 stock market going wild

The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) on X

Major tech companies, 24 hour stock market.

NVIDIA: -11%
Alphabet/Google: -11%
Apple: -10%
Meta: -10%
Tesla: -10%
Amazon: -10%
Microsoft: -9%

Twitter · Aug 5, 2024, 7:32 AM

[blazing depot]

Why is Tesla on that list

Like, they got losses as well, but in that lineup they're the odd one out

[trim flicker]

It's more fitting there than as a car company tbh lol

Tesla moment

[hoary charm]

tesla is the #8 us tech company by market cap

[blazing depot]

But that's what they are, all the dumb posturing from Elon aside

They make shitty cars

[trim flicker]

They're not really valued as a car company

[last eagle]

still, elon

[blazing depot]

That new car of theirs still looks like what a 10yr old would draw if you told them to draw the car from the future

[trim flicker]

Just a tesla moment

Overvalued company that's overvalued just because it is

[hoary charm]

tbh im more surprised broadcom is the #7 largest

[blazing depot]

Because Elon genius, duh

[hoary charm]

probably shouldnt be much of a surprise with how ubiquitous their stuff is but still

heh, everyone taking a 1-5% hit and then there's intel

[valid magnet]

Not only firms but also whole countries

[hoary charm]

all you really need to know tbh

[grave shore]

time to buy the dip

[blazing depot]

Did Kamala say she's gonna ban technology if she wins or something

[hoary charm]

iran is preparing something it seems

[blazing depot]

Well.... go figure

[grave shore]

it's combination of:

• unemployment rising
• fear of recession
• interest rates still kept high

[blazing depot]

The only recession happening is the one in Republican's heads when they try to convince people Dems bad and there was no significant increase in unemployment from what I can see that would be notable if it weren't election season

Interest rates do be high though

[grave shore]

yeah i do believe this is an overreaction

[marsh oracle]

Reading wallstreetbets like the newspaper today

[blazing depot]

I guess the middle east situation might be contributing as well

[marsh oracle]

Eh, war has been looming in the middle east for a long long time

[blazing depot]

Gotta see how much gasoline you can pour into a fire before you catch fire as well

[marsh oracle]

Remember when Iran fired 100 missiles at israel and nothing happened

[blazing depot]

That was largely symbolic

[marsh oracle]

As were the last 50 times this happened

[blazing depot]

Thing is, they can only get away with sticking to that so often, eventually Netanjahu will get the actual war he seems to so desperately want (to stay in power indefinitely, cause war time ain't for politics amirite)

[trim flicker]

Oh noo guys I'll have to stay in the government for longer even if everyone hates me and wants me out oh nooo

[blazing depot]

Can't Mossad be a bit more subtle about things and go poison a tea cup or something

I know falling out of a window is trademarked by Russia

[grave shore]

💀

[marsh oracle]

Neither israel nor iran seem like they have the capacity for a real war right now

[last eagle]

kekga

[marsh oracle]

At best theyre gonna throw around some more rockets

[trim flicker]

Kinda expecting the worse

specially bc Netanyahu been just ignoring whatever red line the US sets and facing no consequence at all besides someone on the white house being like "guys we had a serious talk"

[blazing depot]

While true there's also Turkey

[trim flicker]

"we told em guys no more escalation"

[blazing depot]

And Erdogan has made his stance very clear these past few days

[marsh oracle]

Wow another strong man talking a big game

None of these countries can afford to invade each other

[blazing depot]

If the past has tought me anything it's that "strong" men talking big game leads to big wars eventually

[marsh oracle]

If the strong men have the capacity to sure

[trim flicker]

I'd be really surprised if Turkey does anything at all

[hoary charm]

i'm usually in the "nothing ever happens" camp but governments are telling people to get out of iran and lebanon asap

[trim flicker]

Yep

[hoary charm]

australia raised their terror level to probable today too

[slate kestrel]

I have a coworker listening to his news RN and he's kinda freaking out idk where he's from tho, heard something about govt just fell and pm escaped or something

[blazing depot]

Bangladesh

[marsh oracle]

I mean rocket strikes will still cause casualties

And there will be more rockets

[blazing depot]

The PM who just fled was in Bangladesh

[marsh oracle]

Im just saying an invasion isnt gonna happen

[slate kestrel]

Ah