Misc Chat

[half heath]

it's not a one to one thing, but if their goals are what they say they are, it doesn't make sense to not go after more than just tiktok

[trim flicker]

Yeah the main concern is that the CCP could force bytedance to give data of the US users to them

Which is something the US would never do actually

[marsh oracle]

Their stated goal is preventing china from accessing us user data. I dont see why they would need to go after other platforms for that

Just dont follow the logic here

Like I actually agree that misinformation campaigns are a huge problem that western countries have no clue how to deal with

[half heath]

Yea but what do you think the threat becomes from China getting user data? Like what will China use that data for. Would it not be similar to how other countries have been interfering with US politics and social issues using misinformation?

what exactly are they fearing China will do.with the data is what I'm getting at

Is there something more nefarious Idk about?

[blazing depot]

The US just puts in their ultra secret spyware instead of openly getting the data, come on now. (more or less factual btw. )

[near jetty]

I have read the bill and it seems they have to sell to someone that is not a foreign adevsary and someone Biden approves of

and also it allows them to punish people in the US for using apps that are "controlled by foreign adversaries"

[trim flicker]

US intelligence is much more stealthy with that yeah lol
The main difference is just that the US govt has soft power over it instead of direct control

You're not forced to give the data if they ask for it but

[half heath]

@marsh oracle let me know what I'm missing

[marsh oracle]

Tiktok collects a ton of data including stuff like clicking patterns. More targeted misinformation is definitely one of the more obvious things you could do, but im sure with some creativity you can do all sorts of things

Like if you get datasets from more websites you can start tracking users across websites and matching up accounts

[half heath]

right but like for what purpose

[trim flicker]

Only proper use i see is mostly using it to spread propaganda or misinfo as it already happens on uh
All social media platforms

Not really a china thing

[marsh oracle]

I mean russia and china do a lot of it

[trim flicker]

So does the US, big world powers do that

[marsh oracle]

Especially russia just seems to like causing chaos, they will run bot farms for every cause in the book lol

[trim flicker]

Also apparently the tiktok bill was shoved in a foreign aid package lol

[half heath]

US makes use of useful idiots more than most as well

[near jetty]

yeah a bunch of stuff was shoved into it

[blazing depot]

Russia under Putin is just scary is the main difference. The US influencing stuff feels far away when Russia is waging a war at our border and meddled in pretty much every recent European election and are actively supporting fringe parties everywhere that in theory should never align themselves with Russia but still do because, you know.

[near jetty]

15 different acts whatevers in 1 bill

[blazing depot]

Seems like the only way the US can pass any bill these days, unfortunately

Broken system is broken

[trim flicker]

Funny enough tiktok users are younger and lean very much towards the democrat side
Having the tiktok bill shoved into a foreign aid package is just devious

But that's very much how they do stuff so not surprised

[half heath]

yep tiktok is used quite a bit as almost a wide reaching journalistic thing, ppl can be more informed through it and I feel there is a big amount of ppl in US government that don't want to let that happen freely. Censorship already exists on other platforms its just disguised as algorithms pushing certain content over others

which is why I wouldn't look at this tiktok ban at face value

[marsh oracle]

Yea great source of information

[blazing depot]

Anyone using Tiktok as their main source of information is lost already

[half heath]

There are credible ppl as well as ppl who are making a mess of things

same with other platforms

[trim flicker]

As any other social media platform

[half heath]

btw I don't use tiktok

It's too addicting and I can feel it's harmful effects to my attention span lol

[trim flicker]

I don't watch short form content in general

[blazing depot]

Thing is, Tiktok is not like "any other SNS platform" - places like Twt, Fb etc. are largely just Hubs where embeds to media & sites get posted, or media from other sources get posted. Tiktok is one of the places those hubs draw from, so more akin to yt, except that its short form content makes it more accessible to the attention span of the current younger generations.

[half heath]

I disagree, ppl make tiktoks of content from other places as well. Ppl will post stuff from other places and just have themselves in the corner nodding

or just straight up narrate it for ppl lol

there's more ways as well

[toxic spoke]

I'll preface this by saying the precedent isn't great and the people drafting this bill definitely don't have the best intentions, but tiktok has not done anything good for society and it would benefit society if people didn't get their information from it. It's just a pit for misinformation and terrible content moderation currently

you see it spill over onto other platforms from time to time, mostly twitter recently

and that's not even touching on the political implications

[half heath]

Personally I don't see a large difference between it and other platforms in terms of misinformation.

Maybe when I used it, I did a better job of tailoring my algorithm

immediately click not interested on BS propaganda stuff and stuff like Alpha male shit

[trim flicker]

I don't see that as a Tiktok issue, it's mostly a result of how widespread technology is and the kids that were born on a post iPhone world getting to use social media from a young age

[near jetty]

I rarely get news on my fyp

skill issue maybe?

[half heath]

I seen loads of educational and informative stuff. Things that in my opinion are the roots for starting movements. Like ppl showcasing the inequality between classes, how dumb the culture wars are, and in general exposing corrupt politicians. Ofc that's with the usual memes, skits, and dancing girls as well

plus I like history stuff

[trim flicker]

I'm also pretty sure most of that attention span talk is a myth, it's very much exaggerated
Long form video content is very popular among younger people too, people watch very long livestreams, tiktok caused a big resurgence in interest on books recently too

[blazing depot]

Myth or not, it's what the topic of our conversation caters to

[trim flicker]

Attention works differently depending on the task you're doing

[half heath]

Don my personal experience is it's not a myth because after a couple days of heavy tiktok use, I could feel myself getting bored of any other media that doesn't get to the point within 3 secs

[near jetty]

those kids love their hour long video essays

[trim flicker]

If you're scrolling through tiktok yeah, that's a short form content platform

[half heath]

no I mean like even watching a slightly longer video on reddit I'd close out of because I got bored it didn't get to the point

[trim flicker]

I just meant the general "gen z short timespan" thing
I'm sure people have different experiences with how social media affects them

[half heath]

and it's alarming to think younger ppl will feel it's normal because of heavy use from young age

[trim flicker]

Personally I can't bring myself to watch short form content for any long period of time

[half heath]

yea might be a bit exaggerated

[trim flicker]

Long period of time: 3 minutes or more
I just can't bring myself to watch it lol

Short form content just feels weird to me

[half heath]

I've heard stories from teachers of kids in 7th grade not knowing how to read properly and they attribute it to too much use of ipads and short form content. As well as pandemic

then again hell that could be propaganda too what the hell do I know

[blazing depot]

I don't mind it for skits where it makes sense to break things up, but generally I like to put stuff in the background while doing things which short form content is not suited for on a fundamental level

Gotta pay attention to it every few seconds after all

[trim flicker]

It's just an easy thing to point to

[half heath]

definitely more factors to it as well

but these teachers been in it for a long time and constantly say it's the worst they've seen so far

could be because teachers are underpaid

classes are too big

bad parenting

overworked parents not giving attention to kids because economy so bad they gotta work all the time

[trim flicker]

The widespread use of technology and having screens in front of our eyes 24 hours a day certainly isn't good its consequences are most likely not entirely known

[marsh oracle]

Pretty sure ive seen studies on changes in attention spans and it also seems to track with what teachers notice in their class rooms

[half heath]

real talk I remember this being a bigger issue but like I use it almost 85% of free time

[marsh oracle]

Do people even actually watch long form content without doing something else on the side?

[half heath]

yea if it's good

but eventually you wanna be stimulated more than just watching

I got a drama on rn I keep pausing to chat here

[blazing depot]

Depends on the content

[trim flicker]

That's not really a short attention span thing, it's selective attention
Like attention works normally

[blazing depot]

Like, I don't need to look at the screen the whole time for a game review or whatever

I'd call that attention multitasking

Other people call it 2nd monitor content

[trim flicker]

It's mostly based on how interested you are at a given thing, which is just how attention has always worked
Social media is just filed with slightly interesting content you can digest at a glance, so that's how people use it
But if the content or creator really interests you, you'll follow their long form stuff more

It is still possible attention spans have reduced generally, it's just that the way people talk about it is based entirely on vibes
Or that old debunked thing that humans have a shorten attention span than a goldfish

[vital needle]

It's this

And also big classes

[vital needle]

People don't even put effort in long form content anymore. Visually that is

If we are talking about social media

Every video over 5 minutes is just someone speaking into a camera which doesnt really require you look at it

We still watch movies because there is actually stuff to look at going on at the screen

[forest sigil]

It's going to get challenged in court and probably wont happen. The court challenge will take a long while and go up to the supreme court. In the meantime the bill will be "stayed" for however long the court battle is.

other possibility is that bytedance just sells to whoever a couple years down the line anyways

[charred fulcrum]

Just went to a video marketing webinar last night about short form video

It's the statistics, man

Like I hate it, but wanting to get the highest gross interaction? You almost always have to go that route

[dusky rapids]

lol spotify getting in on the buzzfeed quiz action

[grave shore]

new era
girls' generation

[static creek]

old is the new new

[last eagle]

new by yves

[charred fulcrum]

Dang why everyone's getting main vocal rn?

[nova holly]

what confusing to me is main vocal is always red

they make you pick a colour at the start for no reason

also i was genuinely insulted by this

[charred fulcrum]

LMAOOO

[last eagle]

https://petapixel.com/2024/04/26/satellite-photo-shows-an-army-of-black-spiders-on-mars/

[oak lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-symbiote-symbiote-without-host-symbiote-goo-spiderman-gif-25982356

[ocean vigil]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68924955

[eager parrot]

45kg of natural honeycomb 😭 that's thousands of dollars...

I'm glad they saved the bees and relocated them

[oak lodge]

now for the reality of insurance claims

unfortunate news

[dusky rapids]

was it another great day of saving the beeeeees?

[dire canopy]

reminds me of the Home Safety Hotline horror game

[late otter]

reminds me of the result i got 😭

[valid magnet]

https://fxtwitter.com/fl360aero/status/1785049132505379238?t=Eu0N0t1O719osgWh_FSFEg&s=19

Lmao how big is the chance

[blazing depot]

lol

[last eagle]

that's as slim as meeting alien from outer space

[trim flicker]

Aint no way

If you wrote that on a story people would say it's too convenient and very contrived

[blazing depot]

I mean, it very much is, lol.

I guess sometimes reality be like that

[trim flicker]

still hilarious

[blazing depot]

Things I didn't expect to see on Twitter

[shadow elbow]

please write me in for president of europe

[blazing depot]

We don't have write-ins, sorry

[shadow elbow]

just another reasosn to elect help as president of europe

I will give you write-ins!

[trim flicker]

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/5/2/whistleblower-joshua-dean-ex-worker-at-boeing-supplier-dies

🤨

[valid magnet]

airplane people are surely out for blood

[blazing depot]

Listen man, it's just 2 really freaky coincidences

[near jetty]

planes : (

[blazing depot]

Just use airbus planes instead

[trim flicker]

there's a third whistleblower so hope he keeps himself safe lol

gotta be scary as hell to be on a situation like this

[grave shore]

dude must be fucking panicking rn

[blazing depot]

Accidents happen, man

[grave shore]

he might fall out of a window by accident

[blazing depot]

But yeah, jesting aside... this is beyond sus

[marsh oracle]

Better buy some boeing stock now before they get the last one

[blazing depot]

Literally buying the drop

[marsh oracle]

Free money hack

[blazing depot]

This is rather cynical, ngl

[marsh oracle]

The stock market in a nutshell

Hope the third guy has good security, doubt boeing would be investigated for these coincidences alone

[last eagle]

The kendrick vs drake beef is going crazy

I think i had enough staying in this birdland

[eager parrot]

I hope they keep it to diss tracks

because there's good history of these beefs going further than they should...

[blazing depot]

Eh, neither of these two are on that level

This is more like Nikki vs. Cardi or something

Perfect marketing, really

[hoary charm]

Marketing? I don’t think drake is signing off on being called a pedo

[trim flicker]

kendrick just hates the guy it be like that sometimes

sometimes you're just a hater

[oak lodge]

reasonable discrediting of character

[dusky rapids]

https://youtube.com/shorts/csryseYHi3Q

[trim flicker]

yeah being a hater on that level takes a lot of skill

[dire canopy]

happy birthday to John Rhys-Davies the actor who played Gimli for his 80th birthday today

but also rip to Bernard Hill the actor who played Théoden that died today

[ocean vigil]

rip

and hey, 80 is still young for a dwarf

[blazing depot]

Basically a teenager

[dire canopy]

Bernard Hill would be 80 this year as well in December

[balmy igloo]

john rhys-davies being 80 is crazy. he looked old back when he was in indiana jones and that was like 35 years ago.

[languid tree]

That drake diss was weak

[safe ferry]

yeah, they have beef for like over 10 years now

[languid tree]

Aight I think I’m caught up with all the diss tracks

Family matters was definitely the better diss, but not like us is a banger

[oak lodge]

we have a full discussion of them in the music thread if you want to check

https://discord.com/channels/482594344390623240/1042572665430482944

[languid tree]

Is this not the music talk?

Damn my bad

[oak lodge]

hahaha

[vital needle]

Happy victory day my friends

[near jetty]

oh how the time flies

[valid magnet]

https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/1788640112252715380?t=M-jdWcujMPOTKiyKJiJ2gw&s=19

Nash, Now With Flavor Crystals (@Nash076) on X

In case you missed it, bits of the brain implant have broken loose and are floating around in the dude's brain.

They think it's because the surgery introduced AIR into the dude's BRAIN.

I'm sure it'll be fine. https://t.co/VPTHdRX7BB

Twitter · May 9, 2024, 6:40 PM

[blazing depot]

"Sacrifices have to be made in the name of science" - Elon, probably

[oak lodge]

braincase air

Hope that the fellow is safe

[void pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-shrek-gif-19551630

[valid magnet]

Walking through the city during election season is hilarious bcs all the posters of the parties are there but the right wing one always gets vandalized and shredded to pieces lmao

[void pendant]

good that they dont take them down instead and hang them up after the election period is over. because that would mean fines for them (the party), at least in germany.

[dire canopy]

well there was an assassination attempt against the slovakian prime minister

[blazing depot]

Wild. It's been a while since something like this has happened

[eager parrot]

who did he piss off?

[blazing depot]

I mean

[eager parrot]

I haven't kept up with that part of the world's politics recently, did he go against EU/NATO or was it against Russia/China? 😄

last one of these sort of was Japan's ex-prime minister getting slugged because of a Korean cult association (at least that was the assassin's justification)

at least in relatively peaceful countries, not constantly violent ones

[blazing depot]

Ex being the key word here

This dude's security was clearly lacking

[dire canopy]

He has ties with Mafia where there was an assassination against a journalist that was investigating those ties like 4 years ago

and he is a Russia speedrun politician

literally doing the same thing that Orban has been doing except 4 times faster

he polarizes the slovakian population a lot

[eager parrot]

I don't really get an EU and NATO country's leaders aligning themselves with Russia even by implication if not explicitly.

like I don't really think either side are blameless in the shitshow happening, but if your country is already in one sphere of influence, what is there to gain from significantly rocking the boat?

[dire canopy]

well the goverment has already been calling for a political war against the opposition and the media because of this

seems like it is going to make the situation more volatile

[eager parrot]

ah I see, so they're not just Orban speedrunning in the Russian support sense, but also speedrunning the illiberal democracy authoritarian part too.

[dire canopy]

yeah as soon as he came to power they immediately started going for the media

[ocean vigil]

and butchering all the anti-corruption laws

[dire canopy]

it was a small crowd of his supporters where the shooter was one of the people that told him to come there and then he pulled out a gun and shot at him 5 times

[ocean vigil]

pretty much, those votes were the only ones available for him. he got completely disgraced after the assassination of a journalist mugen wrote about, the only reason he even got a chance to come back was because the elections were won by a populist clown that made complete mess of a covid and pretty much everything else. so he came back as the anti-system "hero" (that was the prime minister in 2006-2010 and 2012-2018 lol) that will save the common folk from EU, minorities, genders and all the standard stuff

lots of conflicting information about the assailant surfacing, this will be a mess

[blazing depot]

Clearly it was the woke left or something

[ocean vigil]

it was some 71 year old man and the first stuff coming up was that he didn't like what they were doing against the media etc. after that came up some links to pro-russia paramilitary group and night wolves

[blazing depot]

Next shocking thing you say is that Russia might be involved

[ocean vigil]

what is the truth I have no idea, the thing that I'm worried about is that the truth won't ultimately matter anyway

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/goodside/status/1790912819442974900 its evolving

[eager parrot]

https://apnews.com/article/netherlands-government-radical-right-immigration-wilders-77ff99e0798d54d150d320706a685a38

[nova holly]

chatgpt has techincal interview trauma

he just like me fr

[unborn echo]

lmao

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/weirddalle/status/1791043161068105903?t=YYsx4kmU2oYq9hLwZCw5TQ&s=19

i guess the free version will stuck at its version 3.5 thankfully

[ocean vigil]

so apparently they gutted the security force after they got elected and put in their people lacking proper experience

[blazing depot]

Fucked around and found out

[hoary charm]

many such cases

[ocean vigil]

bruh

[oak lodge]

hahaha

[dusky rapids]

lol

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/asianjunkiecom/status/1791610542236610825

Feelselonman

[last eagle]

this is insane lmao
https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1791585416325341665?t=6kavsZvPBkEeffAMaChStg&s=19

[dusky rapids]

LMAO taiwan parliament is always comedy

[unborn echo]

modern problems require modern solutions

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1791932764876419399?t=T6XrGdfBwjIZ91sIiWUJaA&s=19

this feels like willy wonka experience moment all over again

[oak lodge]

[ruby helm]

There he is, its Bluey!

[last eagle]

interesting, bbc world covered this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fhNq8MCYUll_kScQ&v=9EEp1q_iMYc

TW: All the stuffs happened in Burning Sun

[blazing depot]

Bit late for that one

[last eagle]

yea, it was uploaded 13 hours ago-ish

[blazing depot]

Ooooooh boy

Iranian president has crashed with his helicopter and has yet to be found

[shadow elbow]

lol

[blazing depot]

Surely this will be good for the stability in the region and no bad things will happen because of it

[marsh oracle]

Maybe the next guy will stop supplying multiple terrorist groups

[blazing depot]

Well, since it seems likely a military man might take over you might see more.... direct approaches

[eager parrot]

might have been an insider job if their IRGC want even more control than they already have.

and they can twist it to blame Israel, US or otherwise too.

but by hanlon's razor, there are enough helicopter crashes every month even by competent low drag spec op teams and training groups that one could just attribute it to the horrible weather conditions and mountainous environment

[blazing depot]

Sure, but apparently it was a 3 helicopter formation and only the one with him inside crashed and the other 2 just continued and landed safely

[eager parrot]

Been a hot minute of countries' leaders' lives potentially being lost huh

first with ... what was it, slovakia or slovenia? and now this.

[blazing depot]

Basically just scroll up for the answer to that

[dusky rapids]

he's the president, not the supreme leader

so idt anything's gonna change

[blazing depot]

Well, he's confirmed dead now, so we'll see I guess

But on a lighter note, this was a serious post. People on twt sure are something.
https://fixupx.com/DianaWallace888/status/1792435786022883723

[oak lodge]

there are laser weapons that can be used surface to air. Not human vision spectrum visible but also a stretch

Also, this statement can probably have a little sliver of potentially familiar topic

How many times has it happened where a bigger government ensured that a leader was killed off to then help instill one that reflects different, politically beneficial values?

They just sent drones and missiles against one of the most heavily military-industrial-backed state in the world a couple months ago

[marsh oracle]

The problem here is that they got the wrong guy

Irans president doesnt really hold any power

[oak lodge]

clerical perhaps, but there is still worry over sudden demise

[blazing depot]

The biggest worry here is that people use this as a means to incite worse things I'd say

[hoary charm]

i read a comment that said this president was basically next in line to be supreme leader

so now there's a bit of a power vacuum

supreme leader is like 85 or some shit and about to die

[oak lodge]

the reigning global superpower disapproved that is for sure as I hinted above.

If you ignore that, I can see where you can go wrong with it but we trust lesser things to be very precise. A needle to extract properly the blood and our brains to understand very plain, literal language.

[blazing depot]

Also yeah, this. He was set to become next... whatever they call it. Spiritual leader or whatever.

[valid magnet]

I have only listened to the news on radio but apparently many people in Iran are happy that he's gone

[blazing depot]

And many other people are carefully noting who is expressing happiness for later, yeah

[eager parrot]

https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-ai-pcs-windows-recall-cc4c52316b035840f1590ef3a589cf0f

yeah.

[blazing depot]

It just wants to help :).

How nice.

[haughty steppe]

Yeah it can tell me to play final fantasy for another 8 hours

[eager parrot]

It's funny that it was added through windows update to win10 and win11 without any opt-in or any options to remove it other than going through registry.

[blazing depot]

Help is mandatory

Just ask @shadow elbow

[half heath]

The 8 show got a huge plot hole

[last eagle]

It's starting to get downhill from here on

good thing i disabled windows update in advance :)

like 5 months ago i think

[ruby helm]

AI: "I've noticed you usually try to start fanwars on twitter around this time of day, would you like me to open twitter up?"

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/BobbyAllyn/status/1792679435701014908

When their safety team left, I didnt expect things to go off the rails this quickly lmfao

[trim flicker]

Jesus

[marsh oracle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co. Theres already precedence for this, not looking good for openai

[charred fulcrum]

Wait, on the surface this looks cool

[dire canopy]

Not sure if I want AI to micromanage my life honestly

[last eagle]

next time i'll ask and guide copilot to beat candy crush game

[eager parrot]

if it was entirely contained locally, sure, it's cool, but that's not what Microsoft is doing and this is beyond bad.

[clear tide]

damn my netflix price going up by 2

[hoary charm]

lol fuck this

if this gets forced on ill just switch to ltsc

[last eagle]

Sometimes we can't have nice things

[eager parrot]

they really need to add an opt-in or a way to turn it off without doing it through registry. they're even introducing a (so far ARM-only) Copilot+ branding ... https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-copilot-ai-pc-requirements-are-embarrassing-for-intel-and-amd/
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recall-feature-will-record-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/

[grave shore]

microsoft single-handedly increasing the linux market share

[blazing depot]

The EU will stomp on them for this, no worries

[dusky rapids]

tw death ||https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/liveblog-sia-singapore-airlines-death-turbulence-london-bangkok-4352156||

man

[last eagle]

damn :(

[dire canopy]

https://yt3.ggpht.com/pYALhKS2qiNcbQHuzgPXxmHLJxA6DF2tIoOKxGyDA9VL5mWGUj8JxY_2qZ3g2uXI2ZhUDYy9CMU1TQ=s640-rw-nd-v1

[marsh oracle]

[hoary charm]

Apparently it requires the new snapdragon ARM CPUs with ai stuff onboard so likely running locally, at least in part

Still wouldn’t want a chunk of my system dedicated to that shit

[clear tide]

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1792954367659717075?s=19

Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) on X

Disney has laid off roughly 14% of Pixar in the biggest workforce reduction in the company's history.

"Top leadership is unaffected".

➡️ https://t.co/plPW1qoloH

Twitter · May 21, 2024, 4:23 PM

[eager parrot]

hey at least it gives one a way to avoid anything labeled with copilot or copilot+ branding

just avoid the qualcomm win11 PCs!

(but I suspect this is not the end of it, and they'll relegate some of it to cloud services without any opt-in or opt-out for PCs that don't have the higher end NPUs)

a bit ironic that they are calling their emulation layer "PRISM" on those ARM PCs running the latest snapdragon.

which was also the name of the NSA program Microsoft is a part of that was exposed by Snowden lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM

obviously prism is a fine name for an x86-64 emulator on ARM, but I just found it a bit funny when their ARM PCs are also heavily associated with this Recall and Copilot+ branding

[half heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194424163528622150/1242523725790969978/FB_IMG_1716310090233.jpg?ex=664e25e5&is=664cd465&hm=b6b9936e82f954c1ff99b0d5a3ab4795d7d4f0e9e5dfa7271c6e0579ae4692e3&

Everyone help me out. Am I reading into it too much or is this a meme about nazis? Saw some ppl post it not noticing it.

[nova holly]

its a jojo reference

the character is a nazi with like weapon body augmentations, and the comedy comes from their enthusiasm for "german engineering"

not sure if that makes it better out of context

[half heath]

hmm i see still kinda confusing but makes more sense

[eager parrot]

https://youtu.be/uHEPBzYick0

lol makes a point how the screenshots will remain on your device

never talks about whether the training data off those will be phoning home or not...

why do they even care about beating apple's macs?

Windows has 3-4 times the marketshare of mac on the personal computer market

[blazing depot]

The Apple one... lmao

[nova holly]

uk general election on july 4th

could not have picked a better day

[blazing depot]

That seems a little on the nose

[dusky rapids]

are there gonna be fireworks?

[marsh oracle]

https://openai.com/index/news-corp-and-openai-sign-landmark-multi-year-global-partnership/ just openai partnering with rupert murdochs company which owns such high quality news outlets such as fox new, new york post and uk's the sun

Very great, very normal

[last eagle]

can't wait for ✨m i s i n f o r m a t i o n s / h o a x e s ✨

[trim flicker]

[late otter]

This is the big big one right?

[toxic spoke]

my entire tl has just been examples of google's gemini just giving false information

https://twitter.com/petergyang/status/1793480607198323196
https://twitter.com/MelMitchell1/status/1793749621690474696

Peter Yang (@petergyang) on X

Google AI overview suggests adding glue to get cheese to stick to pizza, and it turns out the source is an 11 year old Reddit comment from user F*cksmith 😂

Twitter · May 23, 2024, 3:14 AM

Melanie Mitchell (@MelMitchell1) on X

Google, FFS.

Twitter · May 23, 2024, 9:03 PM

[blazing depot]

Ah, so that Google AI is configurated to have the average intellect of a heavy twt user

[oak lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-archeology-stone-jerma-eating-rock-man-eat-stone-gif-20662870

[vital needle]

I sent this to my friends and they said its statistically very unlikely that salt is the only tasty rock

If rock can be tasty there has to.be more.than one

It doesnt make sense otherwise

[eager parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDnIEWyVIlE

meanwhile good jokes CAN be made about the past (one of the top comments on the MV)

also I enjoyed the couple of crayon pop references in there

intentional or not

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/nasa-and-boeing-are-getting-comfortable-launching-starliner-with-a-known-leak/

I hope it'll turn out well for them...

[dusky rapids]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/sq321-turbulence-investigation-findings-g-force-4370916

tough read, the turbulence was so sudden and violent :/

[grave shore]

This is pretty bad

[hoary charm]

i have the ask meta AI shit in my insta now but i havent gotten anything like that

[eager parrot]

their terms essentially allow them to use everything from FB, insta and whatsapp, private or public or otherwise, to train their models, that's pretty messed up,

[last eagle]

privacy

damn

[eager parrot]

pinky promise that it'll be all anonymized of course

[oak lodge]

it's not their employees...

It's the robot they placed into your app that you accepted when you agreed to the terms and such

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/_thewavetv/status/1795237728470044851

So is the Titanic wreck just gonna be our disposal site for rich assholes now?

[valid magnet]

can they do that but with a steam controller?

[blazing depot]

They bought a PS5 Dualsense this time

[safe ferry]

season 2 came earlier than expected

[dire canopy]

well Triton is at least known for submarines

their DSV Limiting Factor submarine is a record holder for deepest crewed dive

[oak lodge]

he's got quite a record

Former racecar driver turned spaceman. No doubt he's always been that rich. Pro driving really is a wealthy man's sport and he started his career that way from the look of it.

[half heath]

Looking for kdrama recs. Recent ones i've watched that i enjoyed are Death's Game, The Glory, Revenant, The Worst of Evil. I just want some stuff that has good stakes and good writing, don't care for sappy romances much especially when they are shoehorned in shows that don't need it or could've done it better (gyeongseong creature).

[haughty steppe]

my name is really good

[half heath]

ah tried that and got near end until i stopped because i just realized I wasn't invested in the MC's revenge because the ||the goal of just killing the bad guy seemed too simple|| but i did like the setup as unrealistic as it seemed

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1797509172025851926?t=13Ff3pWQDvGuRZLsmf7ggg&s=19

Pop Base (@PopBase) on X

Claudia Sheinbaum has officially won the 2024 Mexico Presidential Election.

She becomes the first woman President in the country’s history.

Twitter · Jun 3, 2024, 6:02 AM

Idk much about Mexico's politics but I wish everyone best of luck

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/PopCrave/status/1798058992591352178?t=_O3spqscFmxqKrbgiR7kpw&s=19

Pop Crave (@PopCrave) on X

Halsey reveals she was diagnosed with lupus and leukemia in new social media post documenting her journey.

Twitter · Jun 4, 2024, 6:27 PM

Oh dear

[haughty steppe]

jesus

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2024/06/windows-recall-demands-an-extraordinary-level-of-trust-that-microsoft-hasnt-earned/

At least in the preview, it really is as bad as everybody thought it would be.

[last eagle]

Microsoft silently turning your explorer into a stalker

👀

[eager parrot]

basically spyware malware

with even less security than the average malware storing data

which is kind of crazy, like who even thought this was a good idea? fire them

[last eagle]

content creators are praising it as always

smh

[eager parrot]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/06/zoom-ceo-envisions-ai-deepfakes-attending-meetings-in-your-place/

just one step away from having the AI version of you do the work anyway, who needs you, right?

just need you around long enough for the training data

[hoary charm]

nvidia and amd are bringing recall/copilot to x86 too

looks like im gonna be swapping to windows ltsc soon

[eager parrot]

Intel is also doing that with the new Lunar Lake line

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/06/intels-new-lunar-lake-chips-promise-big-gpu-and-npu-upgrades-minor-cpu-boosts/

I feel like millennials and zoomers who don't go along with this are going to get labeled nu-luddites lol

[last eagle]

megabruh
https://fxtwitter.com/unlimited_ls/status/1798687082069553474?t=QUyS3zxlkHCPTqtRQJHR6w&s=19

[blazing depot]

This is both "So what?" and "But why though?" at the same time

[dusky rapids]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/china-waterfall-yuntai-falls-water-pipe-attraction-artificial-4391756

makes sense tbh

[toxic spoke]

back to it https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/09/asia/north-korea-balloons-response-intl-hnk

[last eagle]

pfft

send them balloons of love

[toxic spoke]

that's basically what they did and they once again sent trash

[vital needle]

Exposing the innocent to kpoop is not an act of love

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/codemiko/status/1798862496847249864

Adobe really don't want anyone to actually buy their products, huh

[trim flicker]

good thing i moved to clip studio a couple years ago

adobe is super convenient for most creative fields but man they fucking suck

and deserve absolutely nothing

[blazing depot]

Best part is, they completely locked you out until you agree to these ToS, so you couldn't even cancel your membership without agreeing to this

[trim flicker]

Sucks it's basically impossible to replace the convenience of using their products in the industry lol

idt there's anything that works quite as well and wouldn't disrupt a bunch of stuff just for being less convenient and taking more time

[blazing depot]

That's sorta the problem, isn't it. They think they can get away with it because what are people gonna do

[trim flicker]

Yeah they're the industry standard

[blazing depot]

Next up is them reading all your PDFs if you wanna keep access to them, bet

[trim flicker]

I'd think they probably already do some sort of scan on that for anything on creative cloud

Including any documents

the improving software applying to anything you create when people know there's a generative AI tool on said software also doesn't help

[blazing depot]

Yeah, they just wanna train their shitty AI, it has little to nothing to do with content moderation or software improvement

[trim flicker]

I'm vibin with clip studio paint thankfully

I also would never pay for adobe products

[keen nest]

https://x.com/MKBHD/status/1800215304846582240

Marques Brownlee (@MKBHD) on X

The crowd cheers as they demonstrate the NEW ability to put icons anywhere you want on your home screen 😅

Twitter · Jun 10, 2024, 5:15 PM

[trim flicker]

technology reaching crazy levels

[clear tide]

never knew u couldn't move them on ios. this is so funny

[hoary charm]

you can rearrange in the grid but cant leave gaps

[keen nest]

How does Tim Cook do it

Truly a marvel of his time

[grave shore]

they got their best engineers on the job and made it happen. truly groundbreaking tech

[hoary charm]

siri getting on-device ai and chatgpt integration is something I didn’t see coming

[shadow elbow]

throwback to jailbreaking so you could do that

[last eagle]

kinda hella confusing as this feature basically the most basic feature any phones can have

how did that feature only implemented to iOS 10 years later is just mindblowingly awkward

[keen nest]

Fucking finally

Holy shit

They're finally adding window snapping to Macos

About damn time

[trim flicker]

AI really bringing in big changes for the industry

First being able to put icons anywhere on screen, now window snapping on macOS

[nova holly]

ios 18 has t9 dialing

what a world

the ipad also has the calculator app now

[blazing depot]

Damn son, iphone learned math?

[dire canopy]

https://youtu.be/ow5XgHDkPOQ?si=oLsEefoS77owN0zT

The sound of his vocal chords begging for mercy cant be recreated by AI

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/XEng/status/1800634371906380067?t=PN1cJCH8GzxPTqpeGeNPEg&s=19

Engineering (@XEng) on X

This week we’re making Likes private for everyone to better protect your privacy.

– You will still be able to see posts you have liked (but others cannot).

– Like count and other metrics for your own posts will still show up under notifications.

– You will no longer see who

Twitter · Jun 11, 2024, 9:01 PM

rare w..
i guess?

[keen nest]

Lol apparently all of apple's tweets are gone

Ahh apple never tweeted nvm they just run ads lmao

Huh interesting never noticed

[nova holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irbcaWFSiE

[valid magnet]

Looking at the shit Elon liked it's obvious why

[valid magnet]

Welp

[safe ferry]

how am I supposted to know if Lorde is alive and kicking now

my girl goes off the grid most of the time

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/PleaseBeGneiss/status/1800733992410546623?t=jPH4qLk2LwH-fITeElb1vg&s=19

Definitely unrelated, right

At least this would be less nefarious than doing this because of all the national stuff

[eager parrot]

could be partially related. twitter never really banned porn, even if it wasn't official policy to allow it.

it was the only major SNS that openly had explicit content

[blazing depot]

Or more accurately, the only one that wasn't dumb enough to try and ban it

Trying that already killed a number of platforms

[eager parrot]

Very good point

[trim flicker]

generally doing that to appease advertisers kills the platform

[eager parrot]

advertisers and investors yeah

[trim flicker]

luckily twitter drove those out through different means!

[eager parrot]

sometimes done shortly before being bought up by a public company or going for IPO themselves

reddit tried to do that for a hot minute too

before their IPO

[blazing depot]

On a completely different note for @dense lark
https://x.com/JohnJCrace/status/1800948406317146134?t=OaJJUCAxBNMTF8YfAgqWBg&s=19

John Crace (@JohnJCrace) on X

Things can only get betting

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement https://t.co/jdiSJ23Qpp

Twitter · Jun 12, 2024, 5:48 PM

Truly big brain moves

[dense lark]

wow wonder how he knew the election was coming!

[blazing depot]

Surely Tories must have less obvious ways of miraculously getting "lucky"

[dense lark]

sadly they do just seem to be that stupid

[eager parrot]

I wonder if there are laws or regulations against that for members of parliament or whatever they are called

usually there aren't ways to hold them accountable for that

[nova holly]

theres plenty of ways to hold them accountable

[eager parrot]

like in the US with stock trading by members of congress

[nova holly]

they just wont

[eager parrot]

well yeah the etablishment government would never hold its own people accountable

and the next one probably wants to do the same so they won't retroactively go after opposition

usually anyway

[blazing depot]

It's just so brazen

[eager parrot]

https://x.com/SponsorBlock/status/1800835402666054072

SponsorBlock (@[email protected]) (@SponsorBlock) on X

YouTube is currently experimenting with server-side ad injection. This means that the ad is being added directly into the video stream.

This breaks sponsorblock since now all timestamps are offset by the ad times.

Twitter · Jun 12, 2024, 10:19 AM

guess the fight against adblockers on client side didn't go so well

now they'll go the twitch route probably

[hoary charm]

save me, purple ads blocker

[eager parrot]

but that also means timestamps are going to become broken

like when annotations became broken (or removed altogether I guess)

this will also be a disaster for any video downloading and archiving if they go this route widespread

[blazing depot]

Not really, shouldn't change anything for premium users

So those video downloader sites just need one (1) premium sub to function just fine

[eager parrot]

so far giving yt-dlp a premium subscribed username password does seem to resolve the issue

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/BrodyFoxx/status/1800975299112530127?t=Y3Qwl8jW1g6vIrOf9_Nd9g&s=19

Brody Foxx (@BrodyFoxx) on X

Prediction: someone will make a plugin for public likes... and Elon gets exposed for liking crazy shit.

Twitter · Jun 12, 2024, 7:35 PM

[marsh oracle]

https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1801045558318313746 humans are such curious creatures, everybody logging onto twitter and liking stuff exactly on the hour and logging back off again

[haughty steppe]

very normal

[eager parrot]

The new outlook is such an unusable pos. It just feels unproductive to use, looks terrible, and is lacking features that even windows mail had >_>

[grave shore]

yeah and my employer decided to migrate us from google suite to using everything microsoft from next week 🙃

[last eagle]

well

Indonesia will officially bans X and urge everyone to change their social media

[hoary charm]

why

[last eagle]

bc Elon allowed pron contents there

simple as that

[hoary charm]

lol

[grave shore]

but it was always allowed

[hoary charm]

not explicitly allowed I don’t think

just kinda tolerated

[last eagle]

in this country

pron are banned, govmnt has law on it as pronographic act

[valid magnet]

I think you can say porn

[shadow elbow]

if he says porn the indonesian snipers will get him

[last eagle]

you might get jailed

but regardless govmnt has nothing to do about proxy/vpns

so there's that

oh, and dns too

[valid magnet]

[last eagle]

it's not the concern about govmnt blocking twitter

it's just about how the country's government itself is fucked

[vital needle]

twitter should be banned worldwide tbf

Whatever meager entertainment it provides does not make up for the sheer ammoujt of nazi propaganda it spreads

[inland dawn]

Anyone have an idea of the dog breed?

[haughty steppe]

dachshund

[shadow elbow]

gesundheit

[haughty steppe]

thanks

[eager parrot]

I mean if you start there, all of them should be banned. FB was the main place a lot of that shit spread for years and years, and TikTok nowadays isn't that far off, albeit different kind of propaganda.

[shadow elbow]

we must return to hunter gatherer communities

[eager parrot]

now that sounds like my dad and brothers conversations...

[hoary charm]

return to monke

[shadow elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526

[eager parrot]

most people wouldn't last a month without clean water and modern medications

[shadow elbow]

they didn't last long back then either

[eager parrot]

longer than a month lol

[shadow elbow]

this would make a great social media challenge

damn it we've come full circle

[eager parrot]

[hoary charm]

at this point im sure thats probably been the premise for a mrbeast video already

[trim flicker]

SURVIVE ON THIS ISLAND ALONE FOR A WHOLE WEEK AND THE ISLAND IS YOURS!

[shadow elbow]

would you SURVIVE in the WOODS for ONE MONTH for TEN BILLION DOLLARS? (You're diabetic and wheelchair bound)

[eager parrot]

that's just evil

next thing you know, retvrn to monke will involve getting hunted by other humans

and then they'll make a movie about it

and video game category

[shadow elbow]

you could make a religion out of this

[eager parrot]

and knockoffs and knockoffs of those knockoffs...

[eager parrot]

tax free 30,000 acres of land, perfect

[trim flicker]

The Forest irl challenge

Survive a plane crash AND an island full of cannibals

[eager parrot]

somehow I have a feeling we're going to see such things within our lifetimes...

[near jetty]

congrats on the doctorate in flying help

[shadow elbow]

thanks brady

[last eagle]

aww hell nah indonesia already made an alter twitter/x lmao
https://twitter.com/tsetiady/status/1802328627000016958?t=S2ydksaqFu9WuVC9v7qGnA&s=19

💥𝗧𝗼𝗹𝗮𝗸 𝗧𝗮𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮💥 (@tsetiady) on X

Anjink bgt pemerintah indon, ternyata beneran dibuat app pengganti twotter, syalan, kayaknya mereka udah serius ini ngeblokirnya 😭

Twitter · Jun 16, 2024, 1:13 PM

[vital needle]

Idk at leas ot wasnt Zuckerberg himself posting and sharing it

But yeah all social media is garbage

[trim flicker]

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

wild

but not really unexpected

[marsh oracle]

Turns out they psyop accusations from antivaxxers were real just not in the way they thought

[blazing depot]

Does it really surprise anyone the Trump admin would run something like this

[oak lodge]

[unborn echo]

Oh it worked, alright. Lots of people delayed taking their covid vaccines because they were waiting for Pfizer/Moderna. Doesn't help that our president at that time was a China bootlicker.

[oak lodge]

unfortunate hand 🃏

[vital needle]

How does that relate though?

If they were a China bootlicker they should not have fallen for anti-china propaganda

[unborn echo]

Oh the president was promoting China like his overlords, but he was also on his second half of the term, and showed a really bad track record. So the opposition also made use of that USA propaganda, i guess.

In the wake of the U.S. propaganda efforts, however, then-Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte had grown so dismayed by how few Filipinos were willing to be inoculated that he threatened to arrest people who refused vaccinations.

“You choose, vaccine or I will have you jailed,” a masked Duterte said in a televised address in June 2021. “There is a crisis in this country … I’m just exasperated by Filipinos not heeding the government.”

that's from a reuters article

[oak lodge]

the despot's ideology is not always indicative of civilian sentiment.

the people grow resentful of these types when the leaders show their focus is elsewhere

[clear tide]

so mark rutte became the navo leader huh

[blazing depot]

https://fixupx.com/ST0NEHENGE/status/1803394207622512748

What a bunch of dipshits, honestly

Wow to make sure absolutely no one supports your cause 101

[last eagle]

these kids should be jailed

[trim flicker]

Oh no the rocks

[near jetty]

that doesn't rock

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1803620824726794586?t=a8sUc5nUfalQxnPz0zmn3A&s=19

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

OceanGate co-founder is organizing a trip to a 663-feet deep “unexplored” sinkhole in the Bahamas

Twitter · Jun 20, 2024, 2:48 AM

[nova holly]

eat the rich but actually?

[near jetty]

Bahama like the aespa song?

[vital needle]

Julian Assange is free letsgooo

[vital needle]

https://apnews.com/article/bolivia-military-deployment-arce-coup-fears-028cd88f3be1fb02164c05deb0faa099

Cant those dudes just stop trying to ruin bolivia for a hot minute

[valid magnet]

https://x.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1806510545832382950?t=KldvN9D5vLBAhV2YrLiSLw&s=19

soul nate (@MNateShyamalan) on X

moderator: what are your views on the economy?

joe biden: i. well i uh. [nose starts bleeding] hmm.

donald trump: we’re gonna find and kill the grinch. mark my words. we are gonna use the big guns. it’s gonna be something folks

Twitter · Jun 28, 2024, 2:10 AM

[last eagle]

this meme kinda relates again

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1806916521274507344?t=cyAg4R2Zi8deZBlLO4pQkg&s=19

Pop Base (@PopBase) on X

Oklahoma orders all public schools to teach the Bible, effectively immediately.

Any teacher who refuses could lose their license.

Twitter · Jun 29, 2024, 5:04 AM

Seems only slightly unconstitutional

[trim flicker]

Jesus

Literally ig

And literarily

[blazing depot]

Time to protest by teaching the truly fun parts

[shadow elbow]

finally the bible can learn

do they all have to share the one bible

[blazing depot]

Yes

[shadow elbow]

maybe they can take turns teaching the bible lessons or something

[eager parrot]

there's a reason they did it when school year has concluded

they fully expect it to be struck down both in state court and in federal court before the start of the new school year in late august/early september

this is just to create a challenge that will make its way slowly to the supreme court

[shadow elbow]

I love the supreme court

the no term limit thing is such a good idea

[eager parrot]

most appointed judges have no term limit, the elected ones of course have to keep winning too

and yes there are elected judges in the US lol

great idea to have the judiciary be party based and ideologically driven

though elected judges are just for some of the states, federal judges are all appointed

[shadow elbow]

I just wish we could consolidate it more

[trim flicker]

judges would never be partial thats against the rules

[shadow elbow]

they would die if they were partial don

maybe they could lose a foot or something

[eager parrot]

they also tend to die (or have family members die) when they get a little too close to the sun

[shadow elbow]

is that because they're all wax figures

[trim flicker]

judge named icarus

[blazing depot]

Makes sense, The Sun is rainbow press after all

[eager parrot]

[keen nest]

korean healthcare system saving my ass again

dust fucking with me for the last week just tried to recover normally from it but wasn't working

went to the doctor to just get the good shit

would be nice if the healthcare system in america was like this

instead I gotta worry about getting a medical bill for the price of a new car for just going because I have a slight cold

unlucky

[ocean vigil]

that's not nice from dust

[dire canopy]

well that depends if it was meant literally or not

[dusky rapids]

[keen nest]

:madge:

[marsh oracle]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/01/us/trump-immunity-supreme-court

Biden has the opportunity to do the funniest thing

[hoary charm]

linking something behind a paywall smh my head

[marsh oracle]

oh weird

[hoary charm]

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-trump-capitol-riot-immunity-2dc0d1c2368d404adc0054151490f542

[marsh oracle]

honestly if you wanna go beyond the headlines on this kind of stuff, youre better off reading the decisions and the dissents

but anyway

[blazing depot]

Shockingly the completely unbiased judges on the Supreme Court decided in his favor... again.

[marsh oracle]

i hear theres some hamas tunnels under mar-a-lago

[trim flicker]

jesus

[eager parrot]

he got what he wanted, delaying it past the election

the ruling in its detail sort of makes sense, if it wasn't viewed through this whole Trump saga, that a president's official actions while in office would be generally immune from prosecution after he is no longer president.

it's trying to prevent a banana republic nonsense of constantly prosecuting former presidential office holders for their actions during their time in office.

it's just that the american system seems to operate under the general presumption that people are not malicious and vindictive and criminal while they hold a high elected office...

[marsh oracle]

on its face it makes sense, but the dissents go into some of the potential consequences

like if biden just walks up and shoots trump now there would be a legal battle up to the supreme court over whether or not that was an official action

[hoary charm]

whens the next clownshow debate

[marsh oracle]

pretty late i think

[hoary charm]

need to see biden jacked up on adderal instead of a gummy like last week

[eager parrot]

I wonder if amphetamines would help much at 81-82yo

[trim flicker]

next time he'll be locked in

[marsh oracle]

still crazy that the entire media cycle was about bidens poor showing when trump has neither been more unhinged lmao

[eager parrot]

almost as if they were waiting for an opportunity to drop Biden

[hoary charm]

cause trump being unhinged is just a given

the media has been saying biden is perfectly fine all year

[marsh oracle]

i thought lefties would realize trump isnt actually good for palestine after he said he would let israel finish the job but i guess not

[hoary charm]

that would require US progressives to have any critical thinking skills instead of just regurgitating what tiktok says

[eager parrot]

it's not that they are oblivious to it

it's that they are seeing the current administration do what it is doing and are trying to punish them

without thinking of the consequences

if Biden or Trump choice makes no difference when it comes to Israel-Palestine, why not just punish the ones in charge right now

that's their mental gymnastics

which I can respect to an extent, but disagree with

it's also what's happening in most of Europe

and Canada

and somewhat what happened in NZ

[hoary charm]

yeah basically

happens every 9 years

[eager parrot]

that sounds about right for parliamentary systems, 8-10 years cycles of voting out the party in charge

UK's doing the opposite, voting in the left instead of the right, because the conservative tories there fucked up so badly

[blazing depot]

Genuinely, Europe doesn't give too many fucks, nor should they. We have our own war to deal with

[trim flicker]

It's an emotional response yeah
But unfortunately any vote that isn't going for Biden is basically the same as giving Trump a vote, it be like that, just feels bad to vote for Biden

Even when it's pretty much the only choice lol

[marsh oracle]

bernie can still win

[eager parrot]

340 million people, two mega political parties with hundreds of billions at their disposal

and Trump, Biden, and ... Bernie is the best they could ever come up with

[hoary charm]

it'd be funny if it didn't mean almost certain disaster

[blazing depot]

It doesn't help that none of the people in actual power would serve anything but self interest

[eager parrot]

the sheer scale of fundraising and campaign spending in the US is so obscene

you could combine all of the rest of the anglosphere (UK, Aus, NZ, Canada, etc) campaign spending, and add all of western europe's campaign spending, and it would still not match how much the US spends on election related stuff...

[blazing depot]

Basically one election cycle is enough money to literally feed the world for an extended period of time

It's great

[eager parrot]

and we're constantly in election cycles

when it's not presidential, it's midterm or mid-midterm lol

[blazing depot]

Or, you know. Solve any of the huge structural problems the US has

[eager parrot]

I can't recall a time in my life in the US that there wasn't an election campaign going on

[blazing depot]

Education, infrastructure, housing, health care

Pick your poison

[eager parrot]

that would require them to serve something other than self interest as you said...

like their constituents they are meant to represent...

[forest sigil]

if other parties want to be viable and an actual option they needed to get to work a decade ago. It doesnt even start with a presidential candidate either. You need local elected officials, then state representatives, then senators that are of that third party for it to be even considered. The problem is you got the US House of Reps, US Senate, Supreme Court, and President if one of those things are in disagreement goodbye to change. As we have seen recently with the SC overturning decades of rulings because they now have a conservative majority.

People are only focused on the President because they are the figurehead of the party for 4-8 years instead of the whole which affects more

[blazing depot]

Quite honestly, it seems unrealistic for anyone to break up the 2 party system

[forest sigil]

used to be quite a bit more, but they just either fell out of favor or assimilated to the other 2

[marsh oracle]

its interesting because the uk has a pretty similar system with first past the post, but even they have more than 2 parties

and one of their big 2 is about to drop out of the big 2

[blazing depot]

They even had a couple coalitions, ye

[forest sigil]

the last election to have more than 2 parties to pick up electoral votes was in 1968 IIRC

[marsh oracle]

although maybe the tories just absorb reform after this election and we are back to smaller parties assimilating into the big 2

[forest sigil]

do NOT count Ross Perot in 1992

2 biggest things blocking multiple parties is Electoral College and an absence of Ranked Choice Voting

[blazing depot]

Doesn't help that 3rd party in the US seem to be even more nutjobs than the established party radical parts

[forest sigil]

you mean these guys arent insane? https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ

[marsh oracle]

some dude once called the german libertarian party a "for fun party"

[blazing depot]

Perfectly normal, clearly

[forest sigil]

there just wont be more than 2 to get actual electoral votes until the other parties start to get to work at the local level and then spread out.

You probably wouldnt even see results for a decade or so

[hoary charm]

Minor parties are great and all until you realize they’re all lunatics and the only one you vibe with never hits the 5% threshold

[forest sigil]

do any of you actually know who these other people are. I mean look at the vote totals, most Americans dont either.

I didnt even know who McMullin was until after that election

[blazing depot]

I actually do, but then again I'm old and remember Jill ruining some Democrat bid or another

Don't know McMullin though

[forest sigil]

he was a spy

lol

[ocean vigil]

only spy I know is Archer

[blazing depot]

A Russian spy?

[forest sigil]

an American one who thought he could parlay that into a presidential run

[blazing depot]

Hey, it worked in Russia

[forest sigil]

Unfortunately for numerous reasons right leaning 3rd parties have fared a little bit better than progressive ones at least recently. The last "progressive" one that got any bit of electoral votes was Teddy Roosevelt with 88 in 1912 lol.

Usually the right leaning 3rd party candidates/parties were worse than republicans

[last eagle]

forcing to pick which one between Trump and Biden is like choosing one of two poisons

it's just to pick the lesser lethal one

[forest sigil]

I don't think lesser of two evils exactly applies if one actively wants democracy to be done with. If you want a better argument it would be who is the better adversary to go against.

[toxic spoke]

september

[last eagle]

https://x.com/stealthmole_int/status/1807919279519813698

Fusion Intelligence Center @ StealthMole (@stealthmole_int) on X

Ransomware gang Brain Cipher announced they'll release decryption keys for free this Wednesday. They emphasized the need for cybersecurity funding and specialists. Apologies to Indonesia for the disruption. They request public acknowledgment of their decision.

Twitter · Jul 1, 2024, 11:28 PM

@charred fulcrum

[clear tide]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1807851672149938455?s=19

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

World record 420,000,000 Mbps internet speed was hit in Japan

It’s fast enough to download Baldur’s Gate 3 in under 4 milliseconds

Twitter · Jul 1, 2024, 7:00 PM

when can we get this

[last eagle]

This guy is 100 years ahead of us

[charred fulcrum]

What keys are exactly?

[charred fulcrum]

HAH?

Over what?

CAT7 tops at 10 Gbps

Full duplex is 400Gbps

That world record is 10^4 that

[hoary charm]

you could click through the article which says standard commercially available fiber https://www.nict.go.jp/en/press/2024/06/26-1.html

[charred fulcrum]

Oh wait

Ah I see they're not using standard protocols

So they're using standard issue optic fibre

Just not standard issue protocols

That makes sense

[last eagle]

the backup database that got ransom'd

[charred fulcrum]

Whose backup database?

Reading it doesn't reveal me the affected party is someone major or no- wait

[last eagle]

https://ugm.ac.id/en/news/indonesias-national-data-center-under-cyber-attack-ugm-expert-reveals-steps-to-secure-servers/

national data center

which is

our personal datas

[charred fulcrum]

Kominfo?

[last eagle]

yes

[charred fulcrum]

Oh fuck wow ok

[last eagle]

even minister had to step down bc of how they couldn't able to handle this

[charred fulcrum]

Daaamn

What are their demands exactly?

[last eagle]

initally they use the datas for sold

but hackers apologized for that and will return the data tomorrow

[charred fulcrum]

Hah

[last eagle]

...we'll see tho how they do tho

hackers apologizing is... very strange move

[charred fulcrum]

So like they went "haha govt security go crashing down, we got y'all data....wait...that means my mom's data gonn get exposed...ok sorry"

Ok but like that first part of the statement is kinda agreeable

Yeah, get better specialists, not some intern you hire to cover up your bureaucracy bullshit

(Happens everyday at Malaysia too)

[last eagle]

or maybe bc of what movement the kominfo had

to ban twitter

but luckily that plan got scrapped at last minute

ministry just gave up on it

[charred fulcrum]

oh yeah that happened

I dunno but in any capacity (except China and North Korea)

Banning major social media site is just not gonna work

[eager parrot]

there are some exceptions as you noted, they limit the gateways that allow internet into their countries severely and as a result can do whatever they want more or less

China, North Korea, Iran and similar have basically full control over their country's internet communications with the outside and run essentially an intranet domestically

[charred fulcrum]

I am probably insensitivized

But it's 21st century

Internet access is like free speech so that shouldn't be restricted (to a degree)

[eager parrot]

insensitivized
that's quite a creative one...

[eager parrot]

well how many countries do you know that support free speech wholeheartedly?

[trim flicker]

anyone i disagree with online should lose their internet access until i change my mind

[eager parrot]

even within the "free" western world, internet free speech is rarely true free speech

[charred fulcrum]

Well I did say (to a degree)

[eager parrot]

the degree should be further defined though

[charred fulcrum]

Fair

[eager parrot]

example of the woman who went to jail for insulting a rapist in Germany recently being a degree off what I would consider acceptable limits on internet free speech...

[charred fulcrum]

yo what

[eager parrot]

just google it, I can't find a reliable news source for that lol

it's mostly covered by right wing news since the rapist were immigrants

and I don't trust right wing news, but I did see it float around reddit and twitter some days ago

and looked up the case and there was some validity to it, but it wasn't worth covering for most media outlets I guess

🤷‍♀️

[charred fulcrum]

Her weekend in jail was partially due to her previous conviction for theft.

She had also missed the court hearing for the case.
So not directly related to her defaming

[eager parrot]

it's funny how right wing news frames it that way lol

but yeah there's always more to it

still, the fact that they formed a court hearing for speech expressed on the internet that did not cause any obvious direct harm is certainly interesting

the US is pretty unique in its very broad definition of free speech, and even that came under some challenge during the covid years...

[blazing depot]

That by itself should tell you everything you need to know.

[blazing depot]

Re:
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1808617846286791137

Acyn (@Acyn) on X

Twitter · Jul 3, 2024, 9:44 PM

[forest sigil]

the same guy who basically said "I am not a church boy. I am not running like that. I said … I had a very, very rambunctious youth. I said in my announcement speech that I have … so many skeletons in my closet, that if they could all vote, I could run for king of the world,”

[blazing depot]

That was in relation to him taking advantage of his kids' nanny, right

[forest sigil]

yep

also the same guy who said that he has a dead worm in his brain so

[marsh oracle]

that explains a lot actually

[blazing depot]

Perfectly normal

[forest sigil]

oh, I'm sorry I lied. He said a tape worm ate part of his brain

but he's perfectly fine now

[blazing depot]

We only use a tiny part of our brains anyway, it's fine

[blazing depot]

To give context btw, this was so insane that 2 complete unrelated people who usually never post politics put it on my tl at the same time. Not a huge surprise his family pretends he doesn't exist

[forest sigil]

you still have certain people believing that JFK Jr. is somehow still alive and that he will run after Trump

[vital needle]

This has out of context lily book club clip vibes

[blazing depot]

It's out of context, but I don't think the full context (which I did look up for that matter) adds anything to male this less unhinged

[vital needle]

Oh i know this is not what I was implying

Im just saying this sounds like something lily would say

[eager parrot]

congrats brits for sending tories back to the stone age for at least 4-5 years to come.

[hoary charm]

crazy seat change stats

[blazing depot]

Supermajority be like

[dusky rapids]

apparently uk govt doesn't have a supermajority thing

[hoary charm]

apparently they changed the law last year so there isnt a 15 year lock out on overseas votes

so i could have voted in this, i think

[blazing depot]

Wait, you're actually British?

[hoary charm]

unfortunately

moved like 20 years ago tho so no real attachment to the UK

[blazing depot]

I guess it's a commonwealth thing that you can just live in NZ no problem like that

[hoary charm]

probs but i have dual citizenship now

its just that the nz passport at this point is just as powerful if not more than the UK one lol

[dusky rapids]

cant spell kairu without uk i guess

[hoary charm]

gonna give up my british citizenship now

[blazing depot]

Oh damn... the election results are all well and good, but you guys managed to let Nigel into your parliament @proud tulip

Never lucky

[proud tulip]

yeah unfortunate

he picked a random seaside town with lots of old people

easy to scare them into the vote

[ocean vigil]

just put him in a corner with corbyn and pretend they don't exist

[blazing depot]

Doesn't he have to have a residency there

[proud tulip]

nah

Only one person on my local ballot actually lived locally

he was also the guy i voted for and he won, so im happy

[blazing depot]

That's kinda.... broken system tbh

[proud tulip]

very much so

the conservative on my ballot lives in london

i do not

[blazing depot]

Isn't the whole paint about local reps that they stand for your local issues

[proud tulip]

yeah, thats how it should be, and a lot of the time they can be local

[blazing depot]

Which they won't know shit about if they're never there

[proud tulip]

but theres no written rule that they have to be

labour candidates are usually local

tory candidates usually always live in london/the wealthy outskirts

wow

[blazing depot]

Gee, I wonder who made it so candidates don't have to live (or at least have residency) local

[nova holly]

my mp is a local

[proud tulip]

i really like my local guy

hes a geopolitics professor at a uni nearby

[nova holly]

he just also in the cabinet so hes lived in london for 20 years

[proud tulip]

not a career politician

[blazing depot]

Those tend to be the best ones if they're not populists

[proud tulip]

true

everything hes said had seemed legitimate

but we'll see ofc

[nova holly]

the sad part about this result is that that turnout has been abysmal

its like 60%

[proud tulip]

yeah

there was a lot of people mentioning that turnout was low bc labour was so heavily expected

that a lot of people thought whats the point

which is a dangerous mindset

i always vote, regardless of the predicitions

brexit taught me that

[nova holly]

the news was so confused when labour got to 30% on the count and won by default somehow

[ocean vigil]

seeing 60% turnout being called abysmal is kinda funny, ngl

[proud tulip]

i always thought it was quite good

i know other places have it worse

[ocean vigil]

yep

[blazing depot]

The toughest of lessons

[proud tulip]

true

[nova holly]

dropping almost 10 percent isnt great

especially since its been 5 years since the last one

[blazing depot]

I will admit that I looked at the results and went "... what?"

Like... they only have 11% more than Tories, but somehow 290 more seats

Makes no sense to me, but ye

[proud tulip]

yeah fptp system is weird

[nova holly]

labour lost 40% of the vote and still won in my area

[proud tulip]

i watch a video every few years to remind myself how it works

[blazing depot]

Also why is the SNP in the English parliament

Don't they have their own

[ocean vigil]

uk general election

[proud tulip]

parliament is UK

[ocean vigil]

not english

[blazing depot]

Ah right. Shouldn't it be more then though

[ocean vigil]

saw some wales folk on twitter celebrating that they got rid of all tories

[proud tulip]

more that grumpy?

and yeah no tories inw ales

[blazing depot]

I mean shouldn't they be getting more reps from the Scottish districts of the UK election

Or are sheep voting labour

[proud tulip]

mixed bag

[blazing depot]

But hey, at least you guys got rid of Rees-Mogg in exchange for Nigel

Honestly don't know which is worse, but it's something

[marsh oracle]

First past the past is amazingly terrible lmfao

[last eagle]

https://twitter.com/vantevkth7/status/1808870760301162771?t=Mkn82rLysLUQgLBKDpDnoA&s=19

chaz (@vantevkth7) on X

the owner of this app is so fcking jobless

Twitter · Jul 4, 2024, 2:29 PM

[blazing depot]

Wdym they'll remove comments

Comments are also tweets

That's like half of everyone's timeline

[last eagle]

bc elon envy at them i guess

(also botted comments too)

[hoary charm]

this

there was a demo video showing liking etc being moved into swipe gestures

[blazing depot]

Just remove tweets at this point

Show only ads

[vital needle]

Sheeple always voting for the woke

[blazing depot]

True

[last eagle]

https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/06/temu-sued-for-being-dangerous-malware-by-arkansas-attorney-general

[blazing depot]

[eager parrot]

in terms of permissions requests and telemetry, it's about the same as amazon or facebook, which also act like spyware lol

but thankfully both android and ios have a lot of built-in permission denials and opt-ins now

[blazing depot]

All of these apps are Spyware, they all collect and sell your data

[eager parrot]

basically their primary function lol

[oak lodge]

it's a big market out there

to sell/broker/exchange personal data to anyone who offers a few pence

the returns can be big ye

[blazing depot]

Just accept that Google knows all and use it to log in everywhere

Easy

Using twt or fb though....

[eager parrot]

google search results are rather frequently coming up in criminal court cases for premeditation evidence

and google provides it almost willingly and freely, sometimes without any warrant

so if you're going to do something criminal, don't google how to or its details on google beforehand lol

or do, so you can get caught and we'd be rid of criminal scum

https://tenor.com/view/elder-scrolls-stop-you-violated-the-law-gif-21698958

[grave shore]

it's crazy how bad opsec most criminals have

[eager parrot]

I suppose if they had higher intelligence, they wouldn't be criminals, or at least they'd go for white collar crimes... or become lawyers or politicians or beaurocrats, criminals in different clothing lol

[last eagle]

https://fxtwitter.com/heleunandeseuk/status/1810549570117800343?t=ybqsBAysxVzgHpWOOmOmXw&s=19

very interesting, the oppositions (which is the majority) demanded an impeachment trial for president

the trial will be held on July 19th and 26th

[blazing depot]

https://www.newsweek.com/ammunition-vending-machines-grocery-stores-1921976

[shadow elbow]

finally

[blazing depot]

This seems perfectly normal. I've seen this in countless video games after all

[grave shore]

The software can verify the buyer's identity and determine whether the machine matches the identification scanned, according to American Rounds.
surely this is a foolproof system and nothing could go wrong

[clear tide]

expected nothing less

[trim flicker]

Fortnite vending machines irl poggers

Wheres the chug jug vending machine

[oak lodge]

right about where you'd expect them to be

[blazing depot]

Oklahoma and Alabama be like

[oak lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/red-zone-nfl-football-red-zone-gif-15059165

[blazing depot]

https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1811147987701096471?t=c3dJ8TM9iOptd9ysJbJdPw&s=19

Dexerto (@Dexerto) on X

X/Twitter is reportedly testing a dislike button

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 9:18 PM

Elon thought getting ratiod was bad and got rid of it, surely getting mass dislikes on his tweets will make this a long lasting feature

[oak lodge]

can totally see it being a paywalled perk or hideable after a certain point

[last eagle]

what's worse is getting worser

tho i can see that the number of dislikes will be always hidden

just like youtube, but

with the power of plugins it doesn't matter anyways

[oak lodge]

I only have so many ports on my PC

what else do you want me to plug in?

[eager parrot]

it's not like getting ammunition in 90% of the states even requires identification past verifying if they're 18 or not

I'd be more worried about the facial recognition software that scanner is using for other commercial purposes of the identities being scanned

[eager parrot]

South Korean politics is so fascinating

the 'liberal' socialist more center-left/left side is more nationalistic and far less tolerant of the idea of more immigration than the 'conservative' center-right/righ-wing side

I'm sure nothing will go wrong mixing socialism and nationalism.

[last eagle]

it's going on rollercoaster in country's politics

[marsh oracle]

Idk this is just how its been in the past

Free trade, free movement of labor has always been a more libertarian idea whereas workers parties or similar ones would be against these to protect local workers against immigrants willing to work for lower wages

Oh and just in case but if you genuinely think the nazis mixed socialism with nationalism you gotta sue your history teacher or something

[vital needle]

Theres an ancap "history youtuber" who claimed the nazis lost the war because their supply lines were state run when the most economicaly rational way to do it would be to have private companies compete at auctions for supllying rights for each corp

If your supply lines in the army are state owned = socialism

Its foolproof

[trim flicker]

ancap

[eager parrot]

I guess the shift happened quite a while ago, and I get what you're saying but I'm not sure how far I'd have to go in the past to see that, since it's not been that way in my lifetime, and certainly Korea's democratic history isn't that long either. Liberals and left-wing politics shifted to pro inclusion pro immigration at least 30+ years ago across the world, if not even earlier. I suppose 'populist' movements have usually been more protectionist, nationalistic and oriented towards 'protecting local/native peoples and businesses' from globalism and immigration and fighting against the 'elites', regardless of which side of the political spectrum they rose from.

Though globalism for a long time was something the right pushed. Biggest disservice to the people has been tying labor/workers parties and ideologies to the left only, instead of letting them borrow ideas from both sides of the ideological spectrum for the betterment of the people. Perhaps the biggest shift has been that the elites were traditionally more right-wing, and now the elites are more left-wing.

It has been interesting to see the shift of which side sees what as boogeyman though within my own lifetime, with the whole WEF/Davos thing being the boogeyman of the left and now being the boogeyman of the right...

[eager parrot]

And no, I obviously don't think that, was just funny to make a national socialism joke in that moment >_>

Though to be honest, history classes at secondary school level never really explain the differences between Nazism's version of "socialism" vs. the more commonly accepted definition of economic and societal socialism or even the leftist Marxist definition of international socialism. Nobody really explains that unless you do your own self studies or are a history major...

[blazing depot]

Man, that "I'm totally mentally fit to rule" press conference Biden is doing rn is.... not going well, lol

Or just did, rather

https://fixupx.com/PopBase/status/1811546653196992875

feels bad

How much of a are we in rn, Americans

[marsh oracle]

Considering this guy is still the better choice by a giant margin, its looking pretty dire

[haughty steppe]

we're fucked

[shadow elbow]

help write-in campaign

[oak lodge]

holy shit lmao

[dusky rapids]

https://youtu.be/BGrqZplofa4

oh.

[oak lodge]

[blazing depot]

Day coulda gone better

[forest sigil]

Pretty tough to say 4 months out. I have a friend that works for campaigns keep telling me that from all of what they've seen and have access to them it is Biden 270-268 Trump at this moment. That is the closest election in U.S. history. Personally, everything is a toss up this far out, maybe a month out is a clearer picture. There is a historian named Allan Lichtman who studies elections that correctly predicted the winner of every U.S. presidential election since 1984 outside of 2000. He has basically said any replacing is a doomed mission for Dems. If you want to hear him talk about the upcoming election more then here is an interview with him and the model https://youtu.be/X4VemewGU6o https://www.american.edu/cas/news/13-keys-to-the-white-house.cfm

TLDW: If Biden is not the nominee, then he must resign so that Harris can be president until the election and try as hard as they can to get those voters to her. The VP pick would be pretty important depending on the state they are from.

If you want to look at polls Emerson College had Biden/Trump tied in polling while other potential nominees are down 6-10 points. That's just one poll out of many and there's always point differentials in reality. Also they could possibly make up that difference if they got out and campaigned.

[eager parrot]

There's nothing wrong with Biden as a president, he has 55+ years of DC politics related experience, has a very competent team around him, and nobody really expects the president to run everything micromanaged anyway. I have no doubt he got 4-5 more years in him to run the country. The problem is that he still has to win again and I'm not sure he has it in him to do one more massive national campaign.

Somehow, despite everything wrong with Biden right now as a presidential nominee (seriously, this is just elder abuse at this point), Kamala Harris would be much worse as far as likeability, electability, and otherwise.

[forest sigil]

he did fill out how the keys fall for both biden and harris vs trump. Personally, I dont see either Biden or Trump making it through their 2nd terms respectively.

[eager parrot]

Democrats shot themselves in the foot not running a proper primary and pushing hard for Biden to be the nominee again and silencing all the internal and external critics in any press they had any influence over. It was fairly clear to most non-political observers that Biden was running out of steam quite literally in front of everybody's eyes whenever he had any non-curated speaking event of any kind.

They ran very much a "party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears" pre-campaign since 2023.

[vital needle]

They can wait for the inauguration and hit biden with the good ol north korean umbrella

[forest sigil]

to be fair it is very hard for an incumbent president to lose re-election in the primary stage. It has never happened and only 10 incumbent presidents have lost a re-election bid with Trump being the first since George H.W. Bush in 1993.