Are they trying to give random people seizures or something
#Misc Chat
blazing depot
trim flicker
yikes
untold stirrup
I looked into this and apparently this same company had another crane that fell off 10 year prior
void pendant
welp
dreamy ledge
X 
last eagle
X marks the spot
little comet
https://fxtwitter.com/realchrisjbeale/status/1685353135236403200?s=20
Now not that I’m a gun nut but…
oak lodge
owning to protect property and destroy establishment? That constitutionally passes you know. 
dire canopy
little interesting thing
they are repairing the bronze statue of Jan Žižka in Prague
so you can see inside all the 120 bronze pieces from which it was made
last eagle
good thing it still says "tweet" to me
dusky rapids
blazing depot
Is that math geek talk or is it digestable for normal people
dusky rapids
the latter
blazing depot
Sounded a lot like math geek talk to me, but it was also digestable I guess 
dusky rapids
It's still not used very commonly, is it?
yeah but it works as a segue to introduce the whole family
educational clickbait
blazing depot
Dust made me learn stuff 
This makes the design of his logo even funnier though. Elon can't even trademark the design itself, cause it's just this
pale flower
educational clickbait
LOL I mean.... this was probably what I learned in my first 5 minutes of being a maths major so 😭
oak lodge
You have to be shitting me
infinite info at a click and you're reluctant to hear it from a video?
blazing depot
idk about infinite, this wasn't a video about pi
oak lodge
last eagle
at least kingdom hearts fans truly enjoyed the x moment
blazing depot
<a:gowonUgh:1074423226064699555>
You've asked for this, mate. This is all on you.
blazing depot
lmao
I can't with this guy, this is amazing
Truly mentally a 12yr old
BLAZE YOUR GLORY!!
marsh oracle
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1686050455468621831 this one kinda gave it away
3 12 year olds in a trenchcoat
marsh oracle
Hes simply trying to see how far "no press is bad press" can take you
last eagle
https://fxtwitter.com/realchrisjbeale/status/1685353135236403200?s=20
a W for residents
a L for Musk
marsh oracle
I wonder how much his new ceo sock puppet is getting paid to fill that role lmao
blazing depot
Not enough
marsh oracle
Only thing shes done so far is winning buzzword bingo rounds
blazing depot
She probably doesn't even exist. It's his AI posting
dusky rapids
LOL I mean.... this was probably what I learned in my first 5 minutes of being a...
yeah that's the point, so non-math ppl might click on it and learn
last eagle
valid magnet
fucking cringe
void pendant
its good advertisement
eager parrot
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tweetdeck being called XPro now
haughty panther
my notification bar just being XXXXX these days now
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toxic spoke
luckily better tweetdeck still working on legacy, gonna be a sad day if it's paywalled and no longer available in the next few days
dreamy ledge
still using revanced manager for twitter, will refuse to update to lates until it is no longer viable
errant nest
valid magnet
Awwww was the bullying too much
grave shore
so wait you pay for a checkmark, only to hide it
dire canopy
oak lodge
lol
valid magnet
And then your mouth is still dry after waking up
dusky rapids
https://yt3.ggpht.com/CtWc1PNYSdESVN_mihNv1QhILxMWCBB2YtvOfwQ8SHNC7d1i0Ne4bZbm8E...
oof yeah i hate having to do that when abroad sometimes
just not a thing here where it's so humid 
valid magnet
haughty panther
wah
oak lodge
That's cool
last eagle
balmy igloo
its always the ones you most suspect
eager parrot
I have a hard time taking newsweek seriously, they're more radical right than ever.
but if they're reporting on this given sound of freedom was their dear movie of the month, it must be true.
also "felony child kidnapping" can include something like custody battles where one parent decides they're just gonna keep the child
marsh oracle
Well its true, but afaik the movie was crowdfunded
eager parrot
a lot of divorce cases end up with charges like that when things get ugly
marsh oracle
So financier is definitely a choice here
marsh oracle
a lot of divorce cases end up with charges like that when things get ugly
Afaik this one is like actually bad
eager parrot
reading about it, seems he assisted another man involved in a custody battle
so it's not even remotely similar to the plot of the movie, which was more about sexual slavery essentially than just child kidnapping
he was charged with "accessory to child kidnapping" and was let go the next day without even posting bail, just on recognizance.
eager parrot
Well its true, but afaik the movie was crowdfunded
I'm guessing this one received a bit of attention because he had posted on FB like the boomer he is bragging about financing the movie by donating to it lol
and then his mugshots were released and people saw it was the same person as the FB posts
but yeah it was a crowdfunded movie with all the people who donated being put in the credits of the movie.
dusky rapids
@balmy igloo https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/south-korea-stabbing-seongnam-shopping-mall-3677511
oak lodge
Mind-blowing, though such a safe country
eager parrot
balmy igloo
okay but is this jsut because they dont want to pay people anymore
fading hawk
<@280601428811055105> https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/south-korea-stabbing...
Abit scared now ngl
There's been a string of stuff like this lately too
😔😔
Praying to be safe
||at most insurance will pay me out||
static creek
<@280601428811055105> https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/south-korea-stabbing...
what the hell
valid magnet
last eagle
A dream comes true
pale flower
HAHA
last eagle
nice
balmy igloo
thats cool and all and i hope they succeed and get what they want
but unless the entire vfx industry unionizes, marvel will just go to some company that isn't union and have them work on the project
they already have tons of vfx houses working on all their projects as it is, spreading the work out. and marvel has proven these last few years that they simply do not care about how good their films look anymore
valid magnet
blazing depot
I mean, good riddance
grizzled bramble
sorry, I let them run away
haughty panther
There are professional hospital bill hagglers too
keen nest
ngl though
although moving to another country is not a high priority because america is pretty good otherwise, healthcare definitely is one of the drivers
okay sorry
depending on where you live in america
haughty panther
pew pew land
dreamy ledge
tulip moss
would
haughty steppe
Fuck corridor
https://vxtwitter.com/benjaminoscar77/status/1690091753691332610?s=46&t=SPFH53arnAkugVjvaaAAtA also awful
blazing depot
VAs aren't part of the strike btw
So idk how relevant that gotcha is supposed to be
late otter
haughty steppe
VAs aren't part of the strike btw
this isn't about the strike tho it's about companies being shitty and quite literally stealing a dead man's voice
eager parrot
totally local but also made it to international news
the publisher's mother died the next day after the raid on their house 😔
haughty steppe
Fuck cops
blazing depot
It's unfortunately not that easy (and the title of that article is widely misleading)
I'd love to see them gone rather sooner than later, but that's just legally not happening
valid magnet
They're full of shit but they didn't step into that territory yet i think
Not even the NPD got banned who are way less significant but even worse bcs they are even more "rechts"
marsh oracle
Tbf part of the reason they didnt get banned was that theyre irrelevant in any state governments
valid magnet
Pretty sure they didn't get a seat in years yeah (or ever?)
marsh oracle
Not sure banning the afd actually fixes the underlying issue but then again, not an easy thing to fix by any means
marsh oracle
Pretty sure they didn't get a seat in years yeah (or ever?)
Yea which was actually cited as a reason for not banning them. Cant threaten democracy politically when youre politically irrelevant
void pendant
yh the verfassungsschutz has more important things to do
blazing depot
Tbf part of the reason they didnt get banned was that theyre irrelevant in any s...
That's really not true. It was tried to ban them, twice no less, and it just failed horribly. It's just really, really hard to ban a political party in Germany.
Which in and by itself is a good thing given history
marsh oracle
I mean I dont really wanna go through the 200-or-whatever page document again but smth along the lines of "needs proof that theres a chance that they could be successful" was definitely in there
valid magnet
eager parrot
AfD do sound extreme, but banning political parties also sounds ... authoritarian.
Especially if the reasoning is "they might actually win seats"...
Shouldn't the first thought be "why are they gaining ground?"
eager parrot
Yea which was actually cited as a reason for not banning them. Cant threaten dem...
It's a bit concerning that "Defend Democracy!" has become the new "Think of the Children!" whenever the considerations of cancelling or banning "wrongthink" comes up.
The leaning towards the right seems to be a pattern isn't it? Especially in places where center-left parties have ruled for so long. Sweden and Finland had their moment a while ago, Italy a while ago. Greece as well, and there are worries it'll happen or is already happening in Spain? And so on. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/30/far-right-on-the-march-europe-growing-taste-for-control-and-order
It's just populism in a time of upheaval especially economically and with fears of war. We're in for a rocky ride.
hoary charm
no one wants to hear about the underlying factors that push people to the right
marsh oracle
Germany has definitely not been ruled by a center left party for long
But obviously im not gonna disagree with you on the topic of fixing why people are sliding to the right
hoary charm
nz is probably gonna get a center-right/right govt this year because the center-left for the last two terms has done fuck all
marsh oracle
The leaning towards the right seems to be a pattern isn't it? Especially in plac...
Think this has been a common perception since before trump even
eager parrot
yes it's around 2013-2014 when the move towards the right began in both Europe and the US
But it's coming to head now after COVID, that whole period of time galvanized way more people towards the right than ever before for reasons I guess.
But as Kairu said, nobody ever wants to ask the "why" on mainstream media.
marsh oracle
Germany has had a center left/greens/libertarian coalition for a few years now and I absolutely believe part of the reason they arent looked at favorably is because 16 years of Merkel left a gigantic pile of shit behind
So much shit to fix, so much stuff to catch up on
hoary charm
thats basically whats happened here
jacinda was really good in crisis and in the media
but the country has objectively gotten worse in her two terms
marsh oracle
And then the conservatives in the opposition just shout stuff from the sidelines they would not have been caught dead suggesting while actually in Power
hoary charm
now she left, our current pm is losing minsters left and right cause its a complete mess
eager parrot
It's happening up in Canada as well. Trudeau is basically an international celebrity, but things in their country has become objectively worse during his 8+ years.
marsh oracle
I mean is he at fault tho?
eager parrot
I don't know, gonna have to ask a non-Torontonian leaf.
marsh oracle
As an example, the current government pretty obviously is not at fault for germanys dependance on russian gas pre Ukraine war
(Dont get me started on nuclear energy discourse)
eager parrot
lol y'all shut down your nuclear reactors
hoary charm
thats all well and good but whats their plan for /now/
marsh oracle
They built a metric shit ton of renewables
hoary charm
again, the same shit happens here. it's years and years of "but but but the last govt!!!" while giving no solutions for the now and future
marsh oracle
And energy prices have come down again, the peak was far below any of the doomsday scenarios
marsh oracle
lol y'all shut down your nuclear reactors <:oliviakek:585665238708387841>
Im just gonna leave it at: preplanned and long term decision that also would have had very little impact if it had been reversed last minute. The 3 reactors the media talked about for months would have had a pretty small impact
eager parrot
I understand the mentality of "but the other guys wouldn't do better" or "that's a vote for the right by default/in essence" for those who throw away their votes.
That still doesn't mean the current long-term governments get to govern by default.
marsh oracle
No they get to govern cause out of the available options theyre the best
marsh oracle
Read into the afd plans and it doesnt take long to realize theyre gonna fuck up the life of the average wage earner even more
eager parrot
This race to the bottom is why we have shit politicians in the first place. If they don't fear losing their place, they won't change.
hoary charm
the party i most align with and have voted for for the last two elections hasnt gotten to the 5% mmp threshold
and for that reason, people dont vote for them
its just a dumb cycle
marsh oracle
I dont think race to the bottom applies to germany
eager parrot
Most democracies have become about voting out the current people in charge rather than voting for what may be the best option.
marsh oracle
We have had a rough last 5 years globally, made even rougher by long term fuck ups in the last 30 years
And I think, given the circumstances, the government handled it decently
eager parrot
Well are you surprised why some people at least may not be fans of the current ruling parties/coalitions?
marsh oracle
No
Populism is a pretty easy trap to fall into
See the International circlejerk about germanys nuclear plants 😉
eager parrot
I mean, the circlejerk intensified when coal plants were restarted.
Bexbach and Weiher ones.
marsh oracle
As one afd politican once said, the worse it gets for germany, the better it gets for them
eager parrot
in times of desperation, the extremes often win, whether extreme left or extreme right.
So while I have enough brains to never vote for either of those extremes, I can at least understand why some may be mad and want to vote for an alternative, even if that alternative is fascist in nature.
marsh oracle
I mean I understand it as well
Like I said, there are very real issues that need fixing
eager parrot
the party i most align with and have voted for for the last two elections hasnt ...
does NZ have like a presidency or a senate or anything?
hoary charm
mmp parliament
eager parrot
Ah so just a house of commons
hoary charm
yea
hoary charm
nah
threshold to get seats is 5% but they keep being recommended to drop it to 3 or 4
but then people scaremonger about right groups
eager parrot
Like I said, there are very real issues that need fixing
And I wish those in positions of authority focused on at least recognizing and beginning to address issues, instead of creating political, race, class, etc. wars among the commoners lol
Just to keep people distracted.
marsh oracle
And I wish those in positions of authority focused on at least recognizing and b...
Again, I just dont think this applies to germany
Conservatives are the ones pushing culture war rhetoric
Our current government either wants to get on with fixing shit or is blocking stuff cause theyre concerned about money or just arent really on board with fixing climate change right now
Overly simplified of course
There are occasional instances of people importing culture war rhetoric from the us, but its pretty much exclusive conservatives and/or afd
eager parrot
I don't know when the next elections both at the state levels and federal level are for Germany but I wish you luck. Hopefully it doesn't end up too messed up 😦
marsh oracle
Theyre probably getting into some eastern german state governments (maybe even largest party in some), but I dont quite see the conservatives allying with them, yet anyway lol
eager parrot
Yeah that's what they said in Sweden and Finland too, before they needed them for their coalitions 😭
I think realistically the next big sanity check is going to be France whenever their elections are.
marsh oracle
Maybe it just takes a round of governing for people to realize shits not gonna work, or maybe it gets even worse after lol
eager parrot
That's a bit of a terrifying thought.
Given what tends to happen when very right-wing governments form out of democracies ... historically.
hoary charm
I think realistically the next big sanity check is going to be France whenever t...
the effects it might have on eu immigration is a bit worrying to think about
marsh oracle
Well the good news is that the german army really cant start anything right now
eager parrot
the effects it might have on eu immigration is a bit worrying to think about
True. Though immigration in the last 10-15 years in Europe is one of the key issues that's pushing the rightwing ideologies and parties to the forefront.
Certainly was the case for Sweden.
hoary charm
yeah that what i mean
and we know the french love their protests
could get ugly real quick
eager parrot
They humble the rest of us for sure.
As far as getting their voices heard. One way or another.
marsh oracle
Tfw people realize the country is just gonna collapse without importing young people
void pendant
And I think, given the circumstances, the government handled it decently
the government response in germany to basically any problem was "lets wait it out" i wouldnt exactly call that handling it
eager parrot
Tfw people realize the country is just gonna collapse without importing young pe...
No doubt, given the birthrates of western nations.
Though I'm sure there's a balance to be struck there, between skilled young workers express entry versus untethered immigration and refugee acceptance that's been one of the primary goals of neoliberalism seemingly in the 21st century.
marsh oracle
the government response in germany to basically any problem was "lets wait it ou...
Are you talking about the last 3 years?
void pendant
Are you talking about the last 3 years?
to some degree but not rly, more of the years before that
marsh oracle
Cause im pretty sure if that wouldve been the response to the gas crisis, our country would be in far far deeper shit
Yea before we basically just kept piling up stuff to fix. Infrastructure, pensions, education, healthcare, internet access and Integration, yada yada
Oh and climate change of course
But any day now some guy will develop the perpetuum mobile and germany will be the first to use it, god bless technologieoffenheit
void pendant
der markt regelt das
hoary charm
lk99 will be real 
marsh oracle
Well he actually kinda would, if we would actually commit to the rising cost of co2 certificates
eager parrot
I'm curious about that tbh. CO2 certificates are kind of a carbon tax, right?
marsh oracle
Yea
Basically you need a certificate to produce co2
But the eu is supposed to set the price of these higher and higher and eventually start handing out less and less
So the price will go up more and more
eager parrot
if it only applies at a localized level, how would it help with climate change when you have China, US and India putting out so much CO2
like 30% of the world output is out of China alone.
marsh oracle
Isnt this just the "why should we do anything when china bad" argument rephrased
hoary charm
another question people dont want the answer to
eager parrot
Is it though?
marsh oracle
Yea
eager parrot
Like what percentage of world CO2 output is Germany responsible for?
quick check says 2%
that's ... a rounding error almost
marsh oracle
We still produce co2, not just locally but also by outsourcing co2 intensive production to china
The eu is like 10%
eager parrot
Right, do those certificates apply to outsourced work too?
void pendant
we have a responsibility other nations have that responsibility too just because they do not follow their responsibility that does not mean we can shed our responsibility either
haughty panther
marsh oracle
Right, do those certificates apply to outsourced work too?
Dont think so, but the end goal is obviously some global system
haughty panther
Say it one more time
eager parrot
we have a responsibility other nations have that responsibility too just because...
No, but it sounds like a tax burden to lower one country's productivity while another thrives (until climate change kills us all)
hoary charm
No, but it sounds like a tax burden to lower one country's productivity while an...
thats the argument people have here
and we're 0.17% of global emissions
marsh oracle
Also lets not act like china doesnt do anything
void pendant
yh noticed it while i wrote it but i was too lazy to rewrite it
marsh oracle
Like china is also the country with the highest capacity for green energy production
eager parrot
And yet, still responsible for 30% of world's CO2 output, which to be fair is only one of several greenhouse gases (we're forgetting methane all the time).
marsh oracle
Nah its usually all converted to co2 equivalent
eager parrot
Even if ALL of EU went net zero tomorrow, world CO2 output gets cut by 18%, until all that outsourced production increases the output of China, India and SEA, back to square one.
marsh oracle
China also has like 20% of the worlds population and I would assume an even higher share of manufacturing
And how are you gonna convince china to keep investing in green energy when you arent doing anything?
eager parrot
Right, and as cost burden shifts that work out of Europe and into China and SEA and other places, that share of manufacturing increases, thus increasing their CO2 output as well.
This is just a jigsaw puzzle of shifting responsibilities.
marsh oracle
Which is why everybody has to shift to green energy
eager parrot
That's another discussion which I don't know the answers to. How much carbon output does production and installatin of solar cells and wind mills and such have.
And what the lifespan of these thing are. I know in the US a lot of first generation solar cells are already getting dismantled and sent for "recycling"
Which usually means ending up in landfills.
void pendant
most of us dont know but we kinda have a lot of smart people who can give us the answer to that
and how to do it in the most effective manner
eager parrot
Same goes for electric car production too, and those batteries they require. We're digging up and processing more and more lithium, is anybody keeping track of the carbon output there as well?
marsh oracle
Occasionally you will see the "electrical cars actually produce more co2 than conventional ones" argument but all of them come down to extremely flawed assumptions
marsh oracle
Same goes for electric car production too, and those batteries they require. We'...
Yes
Like
eager parrot
Well I hope it is being offset by the carbon taxes.
Still, I'm generally a nuclear power plant advocate. We're very good at boiling water, and a nuclear power plant has like a 50+ year cycle.
blazing depot
Occasionally you will see the "electrical cars actually produce more co2 than co...
There's also the people who like to pretend nuclear is green energy for that matter
marsh oracle
Also has like a 10 year cycle to be built
eager parrot
5 year for the modern versions.
marsh oracle
In practice?
eager parrot
depends on government beaurocracy I suppose
but you mentioned china's green energy, and that's what they're pretty good at, building nuclear power plants, albeit the most leaky ones in the world 
marsh oracle
(Completely ignoring that you will have the biggest mass of nimbys crawling out of the wilderness ever witnessed by mankind if you actually try to find a place to build one)
eager parrot
you get nimby's with wind turbines and solar farms as well.
eager parrot
maybe we can solve climate change once boomers die off
void pendant
they are still alive and healthy
marsh oracle
Probably not, but it is a decent hope
blazing depot
Zoomers aren't any less ideologically driven
eager parrot
less nimbyism given they can't afford houses or land anyway
blazing depot
And then there's us millenials stuck in between
marsh oracle
Does any country actually have a final resting place for the nuclear waste yet?
void pendant
as a zoomer this is a blatant lie we are obviously the best generation to ever exist no way are we probably more influenced by ads than any other generation
marsh oracle
Or do we just jettison it into space after all
blazing depot
Does any country actually have a final resting place for the nuclear waste yet?
It's called "other countries, not our problem"
eager parrot
I think France's solution seems to be the most ideal so far, just stick them deep into rocks lol
void pendant
old salt mines
blazing depot
I think France's solution seems to be the most ideal so far, just stick them dee...
Germany tried that, it doesn't actually solve anything
marsh oracle
I dont think even france calls those solutions final
eager parrot
Maybe once Elon makes a thousand of those super heavies, we can just shoot them into space 
marsh oracle
The whole recycling nuclear waste thing unfortunately is quite close to nuclear fusion on the "just 10 more years" scale
blazing depot
Biggest problems is that those mines and caves aren't actually well isolated so eventually shit gets out
eager parrot
US has a nice solution for them too... turning them into tank armor lol
speaking of tanks, I hope all those leopards have CO2 certificates
eager parrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2Z-WC9rao&pp=ygUYa3Vyemdlc2FndCBudWNsZWFyIHdhc...
logistics and not enough lift, maybe we can solve those eventually
void pendant
also if it fails it fails catastrophically
eager parrot
true
void pendant
space lift when?
marsh oracle
Shouldve just required elon to jettison 1t of it into space for each starlink satellite
Problem wouldve been solved
eager parrot
here in the US people are still fighting to get compensation for when the US released a bunch of plutonium over Europe ...
accidentally
blazing depot
space lift when?
That would be irradiated and unusable for humans after one trip with nuclear waste tbh
marsh oracle
Whats the news on the superconfuctor btw?
void pendant
i am pretty sure a temporary shielding is the easiest part the weight increase of the shielding might not be but not an engineer
marsh oracle
Did anybody manage to replicate the findings?
void pendant
from the wikipedia articles it seems so
but not rly up to date
eager parrot
Did anybody manage to replicate the findings?
a chinese lab did
but still not replicated elsewhere yet
void pendant
results are mixed though
eager parrot
yeah
marsh oracle
eager parrot
as was expected, gotta take it with a giant grain of salt for the time being
void pendant
as was expected, gotta take it with a giant grain of salt for the time being
as with everything just like the new cure for cancer every week
i hope they finish before cancer develops in me though
eager parrot
most cancers seem to be manageable now at least
especially if caught early, but also with the state of healthcare literally everywhere being bad, regular checkups even seem to be a rarity 😦
marsh oracle
as with everything just like the new cure for cancer every week
Cold fusion next week trust
void pendant
checkups also arent always covered by health insurance especially for young people not
eager parrot
also true yeah
even some basic stuff like wanting to get your vitamin D levels checked are very costly
though that's from a US perspective
even with good insurance
hoary charm
thankfully cancer is one of the few things that gets you fast tracked through the abysmal system here
void pendant
at least i get my iron checked every time i donate blood
void pendant
even some basic stuff like wanting to get your vitamin D levels checked are very...
vitamin D not real made up by touch some grass people
eager parrot
lol
void pendant
humans need to photosynthesize like i dont think so we aint plants lol
eager parrot
trim flicker
For lk-99 things are not really looking good, the original authors don't wanna give out samples and apparently even their owns graphs don't really show superconductivity
Resistance is pretty near 0 but apparently it's not, so that already makes it not a superconductor
oak lodge
again, the same shit happens here. it's years and years of "but but but the last...
The renewable bipartisan-voter-cycle.
hoary charm
The renewable bipartisan-voter-cycle.
team red did nothing for 6 years, im voting for team blue!
team blue did nothing for 6 years, im voting for team red!
repeat
marsh oracle
I know nothing about nz politics but ever since hillary vs trump ive become very sceptical of this kind of "both sides are equally bad" reductionism
hoary charm
in the case of nz its not a case of both sides are equally bad
national + act would catagorically make life worse for the average person
the problem is that labour + greens consistently rule out things that would actually help the average person and only seem to care about maintaining the status quo
in 2020 labour governed alone, complete mandate to do anything, and they did basically nothing with it. no land tax, no capital gains tax, not increasing nurse/teacher pay, not legalizing weed
marsh oracle
I mean if a party had a majority by themselves and did nothing then yea, fuck them lol
You pretty much lose any credibility for the next few elections
hoary charm
they've basically burned any good will and credibility because of the above + pushing deeply unpopular race based initiatives
so this year we're either gonna get national + act cutting social services or labour + greens + nzfirst/maori doing nothing for another 3-6 years
marsh oracle
Think the only thing I ever heard about the labour government was the seemingly weeks long media cycle about your pm partying
marsh oracle
Well in the uk it was actually kinda bad cause they went against covid restrictions
hoary charm
yeah that was boris johnson
marsh oracle
Oh im thinking of finland apparently
hoary charm
OH right yeah that too
marsh oracle
Well, disregard lmao
livid frigate
AfD do sound extreme, but banning political parties also sounds ... authoritaria...
Banning fascist parties is good, actually
eager parrot
I'm not saying it isn't a good thing, but it is still authoritarian.
Just as it would be if they were banning a communist party.
haughty panther
i mean probably someone already said this before, but if such parties are getting elected by popular vote, you have bigger problems and banning them will do nothing
eager parrot
^ exactly, it only radicalizes people more.
Because nobody ever asks why people are supporting such ideologies. At least not on mainstream news, certainly not at levels of authority that could instill real change.
marsh oracle
Idk, theres plenty discourse about why theyre voting for the afd over here lol
eager parrot
And the solution is "let's ban AfD"?
marsh oracle
They just cant quite decide if its mainly a sign of protest or theyre actually just fascists voting for fascists
eager parrot
We are talking about Germany after all lol
marsh oracle
And the solution is "let's ban AfD"?
Germany isnt a hive mind
Multiple different groups can talk about and do multiple things all at once
eager parrot
I'm not saying that's the popular opinion
but it seems to be the authorities' opinion at least.
blazing depot
They just cant quite decide if its mainly a sign of protest or theyre actually j...
That usually mostly boils down to "idk shit about anything, but this party shouts the loudest bestest buzzwords that I like"
eager parrot
Politics in a nutshell.
blazing depot
The AFD just feeds on all the shit that has no easy answers like Covid and Russia war
- all the nazi stuff on top
But I wouldn't even say the nazi stuff gets them the most votes, the rest does
And people just dgaf about that being attached
marsh oracle
They arguably also feed off the mainstream conservative party copying their rhetoric and chasing their voters
blazing depot
Friedrich Merz can go perish in a ditch pretty please
Absolute worst person to be in charge of a party
marsh oracle
But he just crawled out of one like 3 years ago
blazing depot
The dude has been around for decades and there were many good reasons as to why no one would ever elect him to lead anything
marsh oracle
Would be surprised if he survives until the next election, hes impressively bad at his job
blazing depot
And now the alternatives for chancellor are him and Söder, which is.... definitely a choice
unless anyone actually believes Scholz could get reelected, which... lol
marsh oracle
At least söder is kinda good at the whole populism thing
eager parrot
how many years have the union parties been in power in germany?
blazing depot
They're not in power rn
marsh oracle
Pretty sure theyve been in like
thorny schooner
all i know is politics shmallatics
marsh oracle
90% of government coalitions since the brd was founded
blazing depot
(that's hyperbole btw)
But yeah, the "socialists" have never really managed to reinvent themselves to be suited for currentday
And the conservatives don't need to because 90% of their voters are 50+
Which btw is why digitalization in Germany is still the joke it is
marsh oracle
Ok its not 90% but its a lot lol
vital needle
And the solution is "let's ban AfD"?
True they should arrest the leaders too
eager parrot
oh my god the memes on twitter 😭
30% voting third party out of the blue
the opposition conservative bloc and the ruling peronist coalition both got lower
although this is just to select nominees
dire canopy
not sure if he is rapping, praising the sun or preparing an ursus shock in that pic
valid magnet
kuma would be proud of that ursus shock
eager parrot
his sideburns and hairstyle makes him look like an 18th century english gentleman/officer lol
the kind that would lose in America 
dire canopy
he kinda looks like a more handsome bolsonaro in that pic to me
blazing depot
This would be good if it weren't nazis again
Like, 2 party systems are inherently flawed imo
eager parrot
It's just a sign of the times unfortunately.
Populism by its nature is anti-establishment and "for the people" and "against the elites", at least full of such rhetoric (and often just that, rhetoric, they won't instill real changes, just their own dark agendas).
current establishment and elites just happen to be more often than not center or center-left or actual left, so far-right becomes populist leaders.
void pendant
populism features anti establishment rhetoric while being very pro establishment
(as you pointed out)
eager parrot
today's politics, and perhaps it has always been like that, politics is all just theater to keep the people 'at peace' lol
at the end of the day they're all trying to keep the status quo with little meaningful change, while lining their own pockets and keeping their donors happy.
well ...... most of the time anyway
void pendant
i am being careful with such statement i try to think that you are never more than 3 elections away from a dictatorship
eager parrot
Yeah that I can agree with, plenty of examples to look back on.
I don't know much about Argentina outside of soccer-related stuff, and all the Nazis that allegedly escaped there, but they have had 7 recessions in the last 13 years, that can't be a country in a healthy state.
And I think more than 2 or 3 complete defaults in the past 20-25 years.
void pendant
good breeding ground for less desirable political figures
eager parrot
Exactly. As Grumpy said, flipping between conservatives and liberals as they have done since they've had democracy in their modern history, and things continually getting worse with their two party system, eventually something like this was bound to happen.
Not like there was ever a lack of left-wing populism, just happens that the current establishment there is in name at least socialist.
So they get the right-wing version.
Their Argentine Pesos currency has also fallen ~100% against the dollar in 10 years.
void pendant
what often scares me is the thought of what can be done in modern times when the democracy has failed and you have a dictatorship at hand.
a revolution in modern times doesnt seem possible.
hong kong has demonstrated that quite effective imo
eager parrot
I'm sorry, 6000%.
void pendant
that is true
blazing depot
Basically that's like Florida rebelling against the US (again)
void pendant
but they were highly organized with a lot of participants and still failed utterly
10 florida mens are enough
any more than that is an overkill
eager parrot
examples of like modern "revolutions" in a more generous definition could be like the euromaidan in Ukraine back in 2014 or 2015 iirc.
with not much changing other than just a president resigning and leaving.
void pendant
didnt follow that was a bit too small back in 2014
eager parrot
yeah
I feel like any general strike or mass organization is bound to fail given just how thorough intelligence services are today
and how connected government and banking system are
they'd start freezing bank accounts, cutting off internet, etc.
void pendant
yes, thats why privacy is so important to me
the last stronghold of democracy are the people and privacy is their weapon take it away and they are bound to fail
ocean vigil
with not much changing other than just a president resigning and leaving.
it kinda lead to the occupation of crimea
eager parrot
was that before or after euromaidan
I didn't quite follow it either
didn't seem like the west cared that much tbh
at the time anyway
ocean vigil
oversimplification: the president was coerced by russia sign a deal of cooperation with them instead of eu, that lead to the protests, and after he lost the post russia took crimea
eager parrot
right
I was in europe at the time finishing up some studies, and honestly until this recent occupation/war, Ukraine didn't exactly have a glowing reputation in europe. 🤐
ocean vigil
and the west definitely did not care as much as they should, which bit everyone in the ass eight years later
eager parrot
First parts of Georgia, then Crimea, I can see why they thought they'd get away with this latest one too given they faced little reprecussions prior.
void pendant
I was in europe at the time finishing up some studies, and honestly until this r...
common stereotype of corruption i assume
eager parrot
of all sorts yeah
ocean vigil
not entirely unfounded, it has to be said
eager parrot
though I suppose in western europe, much of eastern europe is viewed through such a lens unfortunately.
void pendant
yes i have the same impression of eastern europe being seen as corrupt
eager parrot
with Ukraine being seen as possibly the worst of them all (aside from Russia proper)
ocean vigil
half a century under russian foot warped the countries and as someone living in one of them, it's still not entirely gone 30 years after
eager parrot
but it's progressing well enough I would hope
with many coming under EU umbrella and NATO umbrella
and getting the financial and technological and industrial aid they need to advance
ocean vigil
varies by country honestly
hungary is fucked
slovakia faces pivotal elections in the fall
eager parrot
i am being careful with such statement i try to think that you are never more th...
a good example of what nidu said, hungary lol
going from liberal democracy to iliberal democracy in one election
void pendant
and getting the financial and technological and industrial aid they need to adva...
china is also giving them a hand how nice of them
ocean vigil
and who the hell can tell what the poles are cooking at any given time
eager parrot
Poland, a little Texas in Europe
in terms of just how armed they've become in the past 15 years...
ocean vigil
at least the main populists in czech republic are somewhat west oriented
eager parrot
china is also giving them a hand how nice of them
I feel like Chinese interference will become a huge issue in this decade
void pendant
pls no i dont want to live in a period for the history books (only exceptions are space explorations and aliens)
eager parrot
already I see headlines from Canada appearing in international news regularly, and I see local university and corporation chinese interference news here in the US fairly regularly too
with congress investigating different aspects of such a thing
void pendant
pls no i dont want to live in a period for the history books (only exceptions ar...
and also not with figure heads like musk for the space exploration part
eager parrot
China just gives a lot of money away and treats their own people no matter what part of the world they are in as extensions of their intelligence apparatus seemingly
marsh oracle
with Ukraine being seen as possibly the worst of them all (aside from Russia pro...
The title of most unfavorably seen eastern european country probably goes to hungary nowadays
void pendant
already I see headlines from Canada appearing in international news regularly, a...
you also read it in the context of africa quite frequently (the list of where you dont read of it is likely shorter)
eager parrot
true true
vital needle
I wonder what happened in eastern europe 30 years ago that made their quality of life drop so much from what it was before
I'm sleepy I won't google it now
livid frigate
i think you mean their quality of life improved
blazing depot
Ah yes, it's "let's pretend Mother Russia was superior" hours again
safe ferry
The title of most unfavorably seen eastern european country probably goes to hun...
i’m romanian so i agree they had Lorde for a concert, lucky bastards 
ocean vigil
It's always fun when edgy internet kids try to tell us how much better we had it when we were occupied by the red army
hoary charm
ackshully that wasnt real gommunism!!!
haughty panther
eager parrot
I can see a child growing up in that transitory period of 1989 to 1993 having bad memories of their entire lives turned upside down
but to say now is worse than it was under soviet union is disingenious
ocean vigil
I can see a child growing up in that transitory period of 1989 to 1993 having ba...
that wasn't really the case here, the daily life for kids did not change much at all, just that the rest of europe actually opened up and if you had relatives in the west you had the ability to actually see them again (source: my sisters were 10 and 8 when the regime fell)
eager parrot
well there you go then
I can't see any sense in thinking life became considerably worse in eastern europe after the fall and separations
unless one worked for the communist regime in some way and benefited from it all
and even then, bureaucracy is bureaucracy, I'm sure they would have weaseled their way into the new systems anyway
ocean vigil
that was pretty much the case, yeah
void pendant
and even then, bureaucracy is bureaucracy, I'm sure they would have weaseled the...
you mean like a lot weaseled themselves out of the third reich into the brd and ddr?
hoary charm
has there been a bigger youtube channel meltdown than the current ltt meltdown?
pale flower
What's ltt?
hoary charm
linus tech tips
pc building stuff
got torched yesterday for business malpractice stuff but just now one of their former employees just dropped a huge twitter thread outlining a bunch of workplace harassment/abuse
pale flower
Oh yikes
clear tide
got torched yesterday for business malpractice stuff but just now one of their f...
just read it. this is horrible, hope more of them step forward and tell their story
oak lodge
I see they uploaded something
valid magnet
has there been a bigger youtube channel meltdown than the current ltt meltdown?
think not even james charles is close to this
hoary charm
tldr seems to be that theyre taking a week off, cutting back video production rate and revising internal processes
unborn echo
one last WAN show kek
unborn echo
I see they uploaded something
wait lemme watch this
hoary charm
nothing on the madison thing but that only came out like 4h ago so makes sense
nova holly
lmg have typically been pretty good at taking criticism so far, plus they have they new ceo who actually has industry experience so hopefully they can fix things
as someone whos been a fan for forever i think something like this happenning was pretty nescessary
void pendant
they will wait it out and then survive without a problem as the usual, maybe throw in some pr posts who read like they were revised 10+ times
nova holly
linus cant keep pretending they arent a big company anymore
hoary charm
if by being good at taking criticism you mean getting eviscerated on reddit/twitter for boneheaded decisions and being forced to change
then yea i guess
nova holly
if by being good at taking criticism you mean getting eviscerated on reddit/twit...
yeah i say that cause its normally what they do
linus' response on the forum was very dumb and not what theyve done before
nova holly
yeah linus being egotistical is pretty normal
marsh oracle
LTT have often had a pretty bad first response to an issue
And only later do they give in
nova holly
linus trying to gaslight people about them stealing something is pretty odd (to me anyway)
maybe ltx went to his head
"it was for charity so that makes it okay"
marsh oracle
Idk not the first time hes bended his brain into thinking its ok if he does it
Like his anti union takes or employees talking about wages etc
nova holly
i do love the irony of him always saying they have to keep big companies in check, + blasting anker earlier this year
followed by him being upset about gamers nexus now
unborn echo
watched their latest vid and, this, probably is their most thought out response from a controversy in a looooong while
seems like Terren Tong (new CEO) finally got to linus' head for a bit, sucks that he has to kinda shoulder this big ass problem weeks into being stated to his position
a CEO/Head management probably should have been a move from the start, especially when they decided to hire a lot of employees and becoming a big company
hoary charm
the gn video they could weather easily regardless of the billet stuff being a monumental fuckup
its the workplace abuse thing thats gonna crush them
unborn echo
yeah, as for the maddison thread (workplace culture problem), that's gonna keep me from touching any more content from them, if that shit isn't addressed
especially when she stated that these incidents come from upper management, and are probably the people that Linus are close with and trusts enough that he doesn't care anymore what's happening to the employees not directly under him
marsh oracle
Maybe sponsor and lttstore jokes shouldnt be in the apology video
oak lodge
the ego talk gets me. Just out of the fact that 99% of the time if anyone feels or is done wrong. It's out of ignorance rather than spite.
nova holly
got round to watching the video, new ceo definitely knows what to do
oak lodge
I don't know this Linus guy personally, he seems like a typical nerd. Being a knob over communicating seems normal even when his team is elevated to a sort of corporation
hoary charm
You’re about right
The problem is that he’s put his foot in his mouth like a dozen times at this point
And nothing changes
nova holly
i dont know how theyre going to fix the stuff that maddison pointed out though, it seems pretty ingrained in the company , hopefully shell get an actual apology istead of being ignored this time
oak lodge
ahhh
marsh oracle
Well the issue also is that he has repeatedly talked about how valuable it is to call out other big corporations etc
nova holly
yeah you cant run your 100+ employee company like its a one man show
unborn echo
especially when your face is needed in majority of the videos you put out. how'd you handle a big number of staff when you're shooting videos left and right
grave shore
safe ferry
the ad plug lmfao
grave shore
yeahh 💀
toxic spoke
so quirky
i'll wait for a tl;dr because i'm not watching the ceo read from a teleprompter
grave shore
tldr: yeah we'll do better
blazing depot
Well, at least he didn't whip out a ukulele
safe ferry
nooo join, the tldr is "yeah we'll do better, please buy our merch in the meantime"
grave shore
toxic spoke
Well, at least he didn't whip out a ukulele
You have to join their floatplane to see them apologize with a ukulele.
blazing depot
tldr: https://youtu.be/15HTd4Um1m4?si=dgbQ3pSfgtr3ul9J
I love how that video still basically is every corporate apology ever
nova holly
the video is very much for the fans
i.e. "if you didnt know theres a controversy rn, were gonna be ok, btw pls dont actually read up on the controversy"
valid magnet
okay we can sign this under "another stupid youtube apology vid from an idiot who won't learn" part 45459784598
vital needle
ackshully that wasnt real gommunism!!!
It was real, which ia why it was awesome
marsh oracle
I gotta ask
How many layers of irony are we operating on here?
Hard to tell through text
haughty panther
he's playing you all
blazing depot
He's very consistent with this at the very least
Mostly going by the "America bad, therefore Russia good" logic
marsh oracle
he's playing you all
Ive seen enough of this take unironically that I gotta at least ask
blazing depot
Which is... not good logic
haughty panther
Mostly going by the "America bad, therefore Russia good" logic
Someone flunked propositional logic at school
vital needle
How many layers of irony are we operating on here?
None
marsh oracle
Well
void pendant
Someone flunked propositional logic at school
dust will need us to take lessons
marsh oracle
Hope you get paid for it at least 
vital needle
Hope you get paid for it at least <:WorrySalute:991387343548317809>
I usually pay for it actually
And also I'm technically I am considered a criminal in Russia
Because it is illegal to help their communist party in any way
blazing depot
🤨
void pendant
I usually pay for it actually
your last payment has been late btw
and the address changed will dm you the new one
vital needle
and the address changed will dm you the new one
Thank God I won't need to pay rent
haughty panther
times were simpler when old people just complained about joint pains while reading the newspaper
blazing depot
Yay capitalism
void pendant
i dont think i can even write what my grandparents complained about without getting a ban
vital needle
Try it the cops are asleep rn
void pendant
no thank you
blazing depot
i dont think i can even write what my grandparents complained about without gett...
Was it the foreigners™️
void pendant
yh in that direction foreigners wasnt the word used though
blazing depot
Oh I know, hence the intentional stand-in word
The thing I never get about "communism good therefore Russia good" people is that Russia hasn't been a communist country since... well, Stalin at the very least. But even if you wanna argue that point and pretend Socialism is Communism... (which, fair enough i suppose, not getting into it)
Well, it already doesn't make sense for past Russia, but current Russia is just a dictatorship and as far removed from communism as you can possibly get.
vital needle
Why are you talking about "russia good" though?
I am talking about the ussr I even said it
I think
Maybe I didn't I was half asleep
ocean vigil
void pendant
smart if you read about communism online your safest bet is to disappear
clear tide
finally got to watch gamers nexus videos and the latest linus one. steve really didnt hold back and glad he did not. that was a lot.
lmg making internal changes is great and hope we actually get to see the results of those over the coming months. fun to see his wife actually calling out his messed up mistake.
Twitter
trim flicker
That's a pretty weird statement imo
"we've proactively reached out internally today to encourage our team members to report any workplace bullying or harassment they might be experiencing"
like, today? lol
hoary charm
seems pretty normal to me
marsh oracle
Would you prefer they say they didnt reach out today?
blazing depot
Listen man, they're not in the office much
trim flicker
i mean it's just weird
hoary charm
its out in the open now so others who may have/had issues can also come forward
marsh oracle
Like obviously theyve fucked up, but this seems like a decent step in trying to improve, assuming its in good faith of course
blazing depot
But all jesting aside, this is still just damage control and you shouldn't really believe much of anything they promise will actually happen
trim flicker
yeah
The wording there just makes it weird to me
cause it sounds like they had nothing in place for that before, and are only doing encouraging now
blazing depot
Always funny when companies investigate themselves with the help of a 3rd party of their choice (their uncle Bob, I guess)
hoary charm
not necessarily?
marsh oracle
I mean I dont really believe anything right now. Its gonna take time to determine either way, have they improved or are they just trying to save their ass
hoary charm
they may have had things in place but people might not have felt comfortable to come forward
trim flicker
Yeah
marsh oracle
No point in passing judgement on individual steps right now
eager parrot
a lot of times these smaller internet based companies don't even have a proper HR, so there's rarely anybody to reach out to or come forward to
trim flicker
Like i said it just sounds weird to me 
I like LTT and want them to improve
eager parrot
LTT is just a warehouse with a dozen staff in vancouver
marsh oracle
Well the hr was linus' wife 
marsh oracle
LTT is just a warehouse with a dozen staff in vancouver
Its 100+ staff
marsh oracle
I think you underestimate how big they are
blazing depot
they may have had things in place but people might not have felt comfortable to ...
LTT is not a massive company with a dedicated HR department, you know
They have 30 employees
That's very much still a "you go to your boss directly to voice concerns" type of company
marsh oracle
They dont have 30 employees 
hoary charm
what are you on about, they have over a hundred employees
trim flicker
ye
hoary charm
the "may" is also doing a lot of heavy lifting
unborn echo
yeah not in the past few years
marsh oracle
The point of all of this is that they absolutely should these things in place at their size
eager parrot
their retail side accounts for a lot of those full-time employees
unborn echo
and that's probably a shot in the foot that they hired and grew that much in a short time without that proper management to handle a lot of people
eager parrot
but for the better part of the last 10 years, they had 12-36 employees actually producing content
in a warehouse out of surrey, BC
blazing depot
but for the better part of the last 10 years, they had 12-36 employees actually ...
This, pretty much
marsh oracle
Sure, but we live in the present
blazing depot
Do you though
marsh oracle
I think we all can imagine why things are as they are
eager parrot
again, most of those full-time employees are akin to customer service/retail staff/warehouse staff
rather than higher level employees
marsh oracle
Theyve obviously undergone pretty rapid growth in size without being ready for it
marsh oracle
again, most of those full-time employees are akin to customer service/retail sta...
Do you actually have a number for that?
Cause afaik their floatplane devs and the ltt labs staff are also all in house
Besides the video crew and shop related staff
eager parrot
I don't have hard sources for it, but for example: https://archive.is/lzA85 this NYT article from about a year ago says this
hoary charm
the lmg staff page shows 80+ people rn
marsh oracle
11
hoary charm
and most of them seem rather important
dreamy ledge
Always funny when companies investigate themselves with the help of a 3rd party ...
Fake Bob is offended... unless there's a big bag of cash
eager parrot
11 work JUST merchandize, as in merchandize design and ordering.
hoary charm
in the context of retail box movers i mean
eager parrot
Others specialize in clothing design, customer service or moving products around the world. Selling merchandise is inherently more costly than selling ads.
that's other than those 11
hoary charm
although it bothers me how its not all grouped by domain
writers just dropped in at different parts of the page
eager parrot
well either way as kairu says, you can look at their staff page and make your own mind up about how many of those you consider higher level employees and how many are doing more mundane daily work https://linusmediagroup.com/
marsh oracle
Your wife being head of hr once youve grown past like 50 people starts getting a little sus
eager parrot
and as you said yourself, they rapidly expanded
without the approperiate safeguards
if they were 65 in 2022, and over 80+ right now, that's pretty fast for a small business
haughty panther
Your wife being head of hr once youve grown past like 50 people starts getting a...
"homegrown"
blazing depot
Your wife being head of hr once youve grown past like 50 people starts getting a...
That's about as much of a HR department as the owner of a restaurant who calls you into his office to tell you you're fired
marsh oracle
But remember
eager parrot
him and his wife are still sole owners yeah lol
marsh oracle
Linus would consider it a personal failure if his workers wanted to unionize
hoary charm
theyre probably wishing they took the 100m buyout rn
blazing depot
Eh, realistically this isn't gonna hurt them long term
unborn echo
although it bothers me how its not all grouped by domain
seems like they just add the new hires at the end of the list and just shows company seniority lol
eager parrot
they still have like ~27m subscribers total across their channels
if they release regular content and game the yt algorithm, their income should be pretty solid from that alone
aside from the merchandising
marsh oracle
They also must have a ton of costs at this point, but I guess worst case they scrap the whole ltt labs thing
hoary charm
nah theyre in way too deep on that one
open sourcing their testing software will go a long way to having it audited
blazing depot
Basically the thing you shouldn't forget is that they're for the most part not entertainment channels, they're tech channels. Most people watch such stuff when they need something specific and won't give a fuck if the owner of the channel did an oopsie
They'll be just fine
marsh oracle
Ah im not sure I agree with that
eager parrot
they should get their shit together and maybe freeze hiring more at such a pace until they have figured out all the necessary safeguards for a business in the 50-100+ employees range, but as a whole they'll probably be fine
also canada's labor laws are hilariously bad even compared to the US, so they won't face any reprecussions there either
marsh oracle
Ltt is definitely on the entertainment end of the tech channel spectrum
Especially when you consider all their other channels
blazing depot
Making tech vids more watchable doesn't make them entertainment vids imo
hoary charm
when you go from gn to ltt, ltt definitely leans on the edge of entertainment
marsh oracle
Well I would say stuffing a cpu into a fridge to see if it cools enough is entertainment
hoary charm
its just that they make the tech side more palatable for normies
blazing depot
Hence "mostly"
marsh oracle
Hell I think their most watched videos are stuff like "full wish pc"
haughty panther
Basically the thing you shouldn't forget is that they're for the most part not e...
yeah i give zero fucks to what happens
marsh oracle
You pinging me for this makes me even more confused
eager parrot
isn't this the kind of shit Instagram and Facebook makes people do
taking a "3D" selfie and photos of government IDs
marsh oracle
Facebook I think yea
blazing depot
<@239157990358253568> https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1691854388430602670?s=2...
This should be solely for new accounts
haughty panther
<@239157990358253568> https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1691854388430602670?s=2...
yeah but only for the blue tick wanters right?
blazing depot
And it's not actually a new new thing
last eagle
yeah but only for the blue tick wanters right?
should be
eager parrot
that would make more sense if true
haughty panther
yeah then it doesn't affect most
blue tick army would be foaming rn given this opportunity
oak lodge
<@239157990358253568> https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1691854388430602670?s=2...
burn, baby burn~
ruby helm
I'm suprised Elon hasn't done something like "Users will now automatically follow Elon's account, to ensure they receive important news about the system, users are not unable to unfollow due to the importance of this information."
valid magnet
Just wait a few more months
valid magnet
safe ferry
I'm suprised Elon hasn't done something like "Users will now automatically follo...
now now, don’t give him ideas
trim flicker
Well this is similar I guess
Since I do have him blocked
Ah this is alr on orbit 2
Whatever
Still relevant here lol
blazing depot
Just mute people, lol. - Elon
trim flicker
Hope all the accounts i have blocked get muted automatically
blazing depot
Nice meme
eager parrot
he clearly is a fan of chaos
blazing depot
Nah, he's an emotional manchild who had a rough night of crying over his lost girlfriend, went to his playtoy and got salty so many people do not wanna play with him
Look at his feed, you'll see what I mean
ocean vigil
Don't wanna
haughty panther
He's so insecure
blazing depot
Desperately tweeting about Grimes in Tokyo in a bid for attention like
trim flicker
Taking the divorce very well
valid magnet
Can't wait to not block idiots that throw slurs at me
grave shore
but but free speech 😎😎😎😎👍👍👍
marsh oracle
Afaik both app store and play store require a block feature for apps that has users post content, so good luck with that
Twitter algorithm still working I see https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1692601402751685075
blazing depot
Technically this doesn't say the ability for users to block users
It just says block user from the app
Which unfortunately is not the same thing
trim flicker
Play store does say you need an in-app system to block people, which would actually mean it's supposed to be accessible by the users
Apple also says you need to include the "ability to block users" and by ability it's implied you should be able to do that whenever you want too
Otherwise it's just the company making a decision and that's generally based on TOS violations and reports instead of having a block function
blazing depot
That's your interpretation of what the rules say or imply, but it's not what the actual words say
And you know Elon is gonna argue with that in mind
trim flicker
Yeah but he's a fucking idiot
grave shore
im very surprised the stores actually require this
blazing depot
They probably require it because of various national laws tbh
trim flicker
Probably
ruby helm
Easy solution for Elon, "I am aware of the law requiring a method by which users can be blocked, if you disagree with me that noone needs to be blocked my door is open for you to tweet me reporting an example."
eager parrot
One of their policies seem to be related to communication though for both app stores.
So as long as there is a block feature for DMs, Twitter should in theory be in the clear.
But then again Google and Apple have never been consistent in their app store policy enforcements.
And of course the other part is what Grumpy said, ability to essentially ban users from the platforms, which Twitter does have.
And the mute feature does prevent the user generated content from showing up in your feed, so that counts as well for Google's.
marsh oracle
In-app to me means for users to block users
Twitter itself isnt gonna use an in app ban thing
eager parrot
Either way there's very little chance Apple or Google will remove Twitter from their stores.
They've made plenty of exceptions in the past, and have a shoddy history of enforcement of their own policies anyway.
blazing depot
I mean... they were pretty close before
eager parrot
Theatrics.
blazing depot
Plus Elon probably still owes Google a lot of money
marsh oracle
Its just another example of elon announcing smth without being able to think about any possible consequence for his action
blazing depot
I mean, yeah
marsh oracle
But ever since his whole zuckerberg fight talk he really seems more mentally ill than just stupid, idk
blazing depot
Again, dude was reposting stuff about his ex all night and about how Elden Ring has amazing art, bro
void pendant
smth about money cant buy recognition and pride
eager parrot
he does have the mental maturity of a teenager so that's not surprising
marsh oracle
smth about money cant buy recognition and pride
Couldve stopped at spacex and tesla and have had both of that in the public perception at least
eager parrot
mixed with alcohol and drugs, it turns into a all night long tweetfest of insanity
he was a co-founder of PayPal too iirc
and one of its precursors, X.com
which he is reusing lol
blazing depot
He got effectively kicked out of that one
blazing depot
In part because of his stupid X ideas
marsh oracle
As far as the general public is concerned, yea paypal was his thing
void pendant
mixed with alcohol and drugs, it turns into a all night long tweetfest of insani...
and people who wont say no to you
blazing depot
I mean, he's a narcissist, he won't accept any nay-sayers
Even though he desperately needs them
eager parrot
most people are not driven purely by morals and ethics, so if it's the difference between losing a 6-8 figure salary versus just saying yes to the man for his stupid ideas, I can see why many pick the latter.
void pendant
yep cant fault someone for wanting a roof over their head and food on the table
maybe even a table in a non figurative sense they are pretty nice
eager parrot
Also most billionaires have transcended the normal wants and needs of mortals, so things like what he is doing with Twitter is basically the way they get their thrills
I suppose better this than Epstein island kind of billionaires
marsh oracle
Just do both
eager parrot
Most probably do.
void pendant
some centuries ago they funded universities and let people study in their name ...
eager parrot
centuries ago enlightenment and philosophical endevours were still popular with the rich and the poor
and to be fair, many rich people still do those as well
in the name of tax deductibles but still
and then you have crazy shit like this
marsh oracle
Speaking of education
eager parrot
just carving the inside of a mountain to build a mechanical clock
in the tune of several tens of millions
marsh oracle
Its kinda crazy that nowadays after literally every event you will have a decently sized bubble talk about how its some conspiracy or a flase flag or what not
void pendant
thats at least interesting and creates job ig
eager parrot
true true
eager parrot
Its kinda crazy that nowadays after literally every event you will have a decent...
I'm not sure that's necessarily a new phenomenon
marsh oracle
I think the engagement numbers on social media at least are new
eager parrot
we just see it happen in real time because of how the internet allows people to communicate about current events instantly as they happen
true
but questioning the mainstream narrative is not a new phenomenon at all
even for objectively true things lol
marsh oracle
Well theres questioning the mainstream narrative
blazing depot
https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/jeff-bezos-will-soon-brings-us-a-1...
Well, shit like this is fine tbh. Doesn't hurt anyone if he builds himself a James Bond villain mountain base
marsh oracle
And then theres saying the hawaii fires were started by space lasers
void pendant
dude wtf
eager parrot
space lasers are a dog whistle
what they really are saying is that it was intentionally set or through the negligence of the state
void pendant
what was the name of the crazy us politicians who got pregnant as a young age and the boy now also got someone pregnant while not being off age?
eager parrot
of course some people unironically believe things like that
the same way they believe flat earth
marsh oracle
I think whats definitely semi new is how people just make up shit to rage farm engagement, that was usually reserved to a select few media outlets lol
blazing depot
what they really are saying is that it was intentionally set or through the negl...
I mean, space lasers sound pretty intentional to me
eager parrot
I wish we had functional destructive space lasers
void pendant
i think we should invest more in space lasers
eager parrot
that would be cool
marsh oracle
Like someone tweeting that obamas estate was spared by the fire and how that must mean it was all planned
marsh oracle
When his estate isnt even on the same island
void pendant
when is it asteroids again and when is it meteors?
marsh oracle
And then you have a decent number of people that just go "yup, sounds believable to me!"
eager parrot
when is it asteroids again and when is it meteors?
asteroid is a rocky space object orbiting the sun I think, meteor is anything that hits the atmosphere, meteorite is anything that gets past the atmosphere and falls on earth
blazing depot
it was the woke liberals, clearly. They aimed the fires at the besieged communities of real Americans on Hawaii and that's how it happened
void pendant
asteroid is a rocky space object orbiting the sun I think, meteor is anything th...
thanks, where do comets fall into that list?
marsh oracle
Comes are asteroids with a trail of dust and ice
void pendant
asteroid was right then sometimes luck is the most important stat 
blazing depot
One out of these is usually just a big lump of ice, yeah
eager parrot
that's a good question, comets are usually icy objects that orbit the sun in an oblong orbit? They're not that different from astroids, they just have a trail
blazing depot
I forgot which though
void pendant
Comes are asteroids with a trail of dust and ice
thanks
blazing depot
Trails are good btw, easier to spot
Meanwhile asteroids can pretty come outta nowhere
haughty panther
Summer was created by the government to increase the sale of air conditioners. Have you ever heard of people using ACs before they were invented? Thought so
void pendant
i do like trails, i am also in need for some ice now
eager parrot
I hear Europe is slowly discovering the wonders of ACs
blazing depot
Summer was created by the government to increase the sale of air conditioners. H...
This is why we don't use ACs in Europe, Big AC has no influence over us
eager parrot
out of necessity I presume
void pendant
dude i fucking died over the last 3 days
marsh oracle
We wont need ACs when the gulf stream stops
haughty panther
This is why we don't use ACs in Europe, Big AC has no influence over us
Unfortunately Big AC has taken over rest of the world
eager parrot
in the years to come, I suspect without ACs, many places in the world will be unliveable
blazing depot
But seriously, northern Europe would only need ACs 2-3 out of 12 months a year
Cause no, you should NOT use an AC to heat your home
eager parrot
LOL
void pendant
Cause no, you should NOT use an AC to heat your home
yes thats what your pc is for
blazing depot
true
haughty panther
That's the case for most places. My home we turn on air conditioning for max 20-30 days a year
eager parrot
that's why we have HVAC systems here, does all three all year long 😄
don't need heating or cooling? just let it ventilate and filter the air
haughty panther
that's why we have HVAC systems here, does all three all year long 😄
High Voltage AC
eager parrot
lol heating ventilating air condition
void pendant
sry naywal was first so they right
eager parrot
hahaha
void pendant
you either gotta be first or louder
haughty panther
Lol
eager parrot
but anyway, I think we should look seriously into this space lasers thing
either as earth defense or otherwise
void pendant
yes pls
haughty panther
So the meteor shower i saw the other day was just space laser?
eager parrot
just take those mega lasers they are using for fusion demonstrations
and point it upwards
that should work right? 😄
void pendant
maybe we should avoid this whole atmosphere thingy?
marsh oracle
So the meteor shower i saw the other day was just space laser?
No that was starlink satellites
eager parrot
starlink satellites are so annoying, totally ruins dark skies now 😦 and we're only like 5% into their saturation
and there are other firms launching their own constellations
marsh oracle
blazing depot
No that was starlink satellites
What if Starlink satellites are secretly space lasers
marsh oracle
Insane to me that a private company got the permission for that shit
blazing depot
And Elon is just waiting for the right moment
void pendant
boring
eager parrot
I think they call it laser link or something
if you don't have any obstacles in the way, laser data transfers are the fastest way of communication across two points after all
now I want laser wifi in my house
marsh oracle
Uh
void pendant
isnt there some physics phenomen with something that share their state?
(pls dont attack me i never did physics beyond the school)
marsh oracle
A laser isnt gonna be faster than the frequencies wifi uses
eager parrot
it is not faster per se, it is more robust
they are using 193 Terahertz lasers
versus 60ghz radio waves
focused direct communication
I don't get this stuff anyway
but they are using it lol
marsh oracle
Are you sure that works without direct line of sight
blazing depot
Communication lasers very much are a thing, yes
eager parrot
A comparison of laser and radio frequency (RF) links has been conducted when employed between two LEO satellites [3]. Two different RF links operating in Ka and mm-wave bands are examined, and the transmit power is considered as 10 W, 20 W, and 50 W for laser (193 THz), mm-wave band (60 GHz) and Ka band (32 GHz) links, respectively. The RF inter-satellite link in either Ka or mmLaser Inter-Satellite Links in a Starlink Constellation wave bands needs at least 19 times the antenna diameter, and more than twice the onboard power and mass compared to the laser intersatellite link for a link data rate of 2.5 Gbps and an inter-satellite distance of 5,000 km.
void pendant
Are you sure that works without direct line of sight
yes is required
"An FSO link is used to transmit
an optical signal from an optical transmitter to an optical receiver over
the atmosphere or the vacuum in space, and a clear line of sight is
required between transmitter and receiver [1]. FSO links can be of
four types, namely, terrestrial, non-terrestrial (or aerial), space, and
deep-space. Satellite-to-satellite FSO links are examples of space
FSO, and are referred to in this work as laser inter-satellite links
(LISLs)."
eager parrot
it's still using radio waves for surface to orbit and orbit to surface
the lasers are only for intersatellite communication rn
although I think the surface-orbit communication lasers have been attempted as well in other applications
if we ever build a moon base, that will be fun to have
void pendant
for moonbase that is not under control of some billionaire
haughty panther
Yet
void pendant
new union busting strategy less nutri slime for strikers
vital needle
But seriously, northern Europe would only need ACs 2-3 out of 12 months a year
for now
haughty panther
commu jeans
oak lodge
I still remember this:
toys lol
dreamy ledge
he was a good boy 
valid magnet
May the lil guy rest in peace
haughty steppe
https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1692938909888508388
Cheems and doge are different
That's balltze, who is cheems