#Counter-Strike

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wintry skiff
sour nexus
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not super star level, but a star

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jabbi was a very consistent player for Heroic, but somehow after the player break he is very inconsistent right now

wintry skiff
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i'll never forgive astralis (the management) for ruining Bubzkji

sour nexus
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sjuush been a stable player for quite some time now

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even TeSeS is pretty stable

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even cadiaN like ???

wintry skiff
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maybe adding an assistant coach from another region(not den) to add new ideas

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or something like that

sour nexus
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so the issues are either their strategies are not working as they want, or they (definitly) have psychological problems within the team, like choking and stuff

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especially after they lost their sports psychologist during the summer break || to Astralis OliviaLol ||

wintry skiff
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i say

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Cadian should comeback to NA

sour nexus
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he knows how to IGL for an AWPer

wintry skiff
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nouns Cadian

wintry skiff
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wtf

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the collapse

sour nexus
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What a loss for G2

wintry skiff
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they lost after hooxi got mega tilted

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in that clutch

sour nexus
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But what a performance from Magisk. He is currently the 2nd best remaining player in this tournament

wintry skiff
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magisk trying to not go out like dupreeh monka

sour nexus
wintry skiff
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monesy losing opening duel in the first 2 ot rounds killed any hopes

sour nexus
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Even all that shouting and stuff is a loss in energy. Even Devilwalk when he started to coach bNE said to them they should reduce their emotions a bit to have more energy, especially in those longer games

sour nexus
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Oh wait I forgot dycha is playing for ENCE aswell 💀 yea nevermind I didnt say anything

wintry skiff
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sunpapi will own zywho tomorrow

waxen grail
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ence are what people think heroic is

wintry skiff
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*ence are what heroic think they are

wintry skiff
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sunpapi

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will go 65-30

wintry skiff
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@sour nexus nifty’s return

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This time he wont be igl or rifler

sour nexus
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undefined: The return of the Nifty Fifty

wintry skiff
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doesnt have a hltv page

sour nexus
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first time Vitality beat them after over a year

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atleast Sunpapi went 62-45

wintry skiff
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hour tech pause

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rigged

sour nexus
sour nexus
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so... pro league in 10 days, valve where CS2

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or are they really dropping it in the christmas break for the pro players and start with katowice, oh boy...

spring marten
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cs2 out in 1 trillion nanoseconds 🤑

graceful knoll
wintry skiff
graceful knoll
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Counter-Strikes 11th birthday today...

marsh ivy
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volvo give cs2

graceful knoll
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Its soon sooooon man

wintry skiff
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Kenny

sour nexus
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so difficult with all those players actually

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if we talking stats, definitly s1mple iirc?

waxen grail
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cold is up there ngl

wintry skiff
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@sour nexus

sour nexus
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+olof -olof +olof -olof +olof -olof +olof -olof

wintry skiff
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sad that the 2 best NA igl in t2 got attitude issues

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well

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at least top 5

haughty bridge
wintry skiff
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curious to see cynic going full awper

wintry skiff
waxen grail
wintry skiff
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he can do it on LAN

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its joever

waxen grail
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apparently vitality wanted him instead of flamez

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but spirit has his buyout absurdly high

waxen grail
wintry skiff
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donk + zywoo

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might as well cancel the next 4 yrs

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Liquid could have had Flamez

waxen grail
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donk might develop better on spirit than vitality ngl

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glad to see vp -n0rb3r7 +n0rb3r7 again

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the universe is returning to balance

wintry skiff
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ngl

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after the TL move + EG rumors

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i was pretty doomer about na's future

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but rn

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we have COL as Top dog

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and 5-6 solid T2 teams (in the sense that they could potentially compete in T2 EU events & not get completely destroyed)

wintry skiff
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would rank them : Col, M80, Forsaken, Wildcard, Nouns & EG

sour nexus
waxen grail
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for vp it makes a tiny bit of sense imo

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since norbert obviously must be a player jane and dastan like who fits their style

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they dropped him for karion i think who didn’t fit apparently

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so they brought norbert back

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but he broke his hand like instantly so he went inactive and they signed mir to stand in, but now qikert is dropped and norbert mir is the duo

sour nexus
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tbf, fame was the replacement for Yekindar, getting Kairon wasn't like the best option in that regard because of role clashes, and they also said his inexperience back then after like 2 games in the RMR

waxen grail
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Yeah i didn’t think karion made a ton of sense at the time

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i do like the mir pickup

sour nexus
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he should've went to BIG yvessob

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mir is one of the strongest up-and-coming riflers in the CIS, but iirc he had some personality issues back in Spirit

waxen grail
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Apparently mir is 27

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which, i thought he was younger

sour nexus
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wha

waxen grail
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either he’ll figure out the personality issues or he won’t

sour nexus
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i mean it's been over a year now since he got kicked from Spirit

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even tho he was benched for like 9 months

waxen grail
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Yeah, and he’s been teamless for a while according to liquipedia

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I assume he’s worked out the issues

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speaking of spirit, donk is an absolutely monster

sour nexus
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donk back in the Academy was insane

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actually, he wasn't even that great in the Academy league even tho they hit 2nd the last two seasons

wintry skiff
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Give a thumbs up if you enjoyed, so I know that you enjoyed (no other reason). Thanks for watching! (Let me know when ohne reacts)

I want to thank:
@ryanssd8439 for his mic (the bad audio wasn't the mic, I made mistakes with the mixing)
A bunch of Redditors I stole clips from
A bunch of Chinese people I stole clips from
Bane and Joji

Okay, so ...

▶ Play video
waxen grail
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oh hey sanji is still alive

sour nexus
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he even cleared his Twitter account for that

wintry skiff
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furia

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what doing

sour nexus
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someone please safe KSCERATO

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Make Liquid NA/SA

wintry skiff
wintry skiff
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this furia feels like the Fallen/Stewie TL

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ngl

sour nexus
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i dont really know how to make an NA/SA Liquid

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NAF, KSCERATO, get another good brazilian player (maybe even yuurih?)

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maybe autimatic or oSee as rifler?

wintry skiff
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autimatic

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has been struggling in NA t2

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sorry

sour nexus
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screw him then

wintry skiff
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hext got better numbers than him

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in the last 3 na events

sour nexus
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didnt oSee even had good numbers kinda recently?

wintry skiff
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1.28 at gamers 8

sour nexus
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nevermind he is hella inconsistent

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only 2 maps

wintry skiff
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Yekindar needs to setup osee more in ct side

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Vini (IGL) + Kscerato + NAF + Try (AWP) + Grim or Elige

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if u want an academy team too
Stan (IGL) + Slight (AWP) + Insani + Malbs + Reck or Jba (reck for support / jba for full firepower)

wintry skiff
sour nexus
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actually, NIP kinda looking like a team now

waxen grail
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I dont trust it

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rez brollan and konfig are all so inconsistent

wintry skiff
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nip got the best/worst inconsistent rifler core in the scene rn

waxen grail
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yeah LOL

wintry skiff
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brollan since the sg & aug meta ended

wintry skiff
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"And beginning today, we are starting the process of inviting as many eligible players as possible to the Limited Test. To be eligible, players must have CS:GO Prime Status, an active Competitive Skill Group, and play the majority of their official matchmaking games in one of the regions where the Limited Test is available."

deep plank
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GowonPray for everyone in here

wintry skiff
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inferno in cs2

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i will be there

deep plank
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they’re making vertiglobals real

deep plank
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see y'all on inferno heejinsalute

wintry skiff
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lets go

thorn flint
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went 0-4-1 but now ranked

marsh ivy
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do you get access upon getting a rank?

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haven’t played in forever Peepo_Sadge

haughty bridge
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got it on my silver account LOL

marsh ivy
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lol nvm apparently oce isn’t part of the test at all

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thanks volvo

thorn flint
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And from what it seems others haven’t either

marsh ivy
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bruh

haughty bridge
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you dont need a rank to gain access ig

wintry skiff
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or had a rank recently (this year)

runic fog
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thats a troll

sour nexus
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LETS GO finally invite

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thanks volvo

haughty bridge
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is the new inferno a site a little too bright for everyone or is it just me lol

sour nexus
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what the hell am I reading

sour nexus
covert palm
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@runic fog

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Can't do the second mid smokes anymore to library ?

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Since they vlocked the top of the mid entrance at inferno

runic fog
covert palm
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Damn

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Can you do the one from the vines ?

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Or does the arch compleley block the smokes now

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From travelling into site

haughty bridge
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should still be possible since theres no skybox

marsh ivy
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im so out of form holy shit

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forgot how much faster cs movement is compared to valorant

sour nexus
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nooo all my keybinds are gone

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wait, no more skin shuffle?

wintry skiff
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he's him

sour nexus
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One thing I just realized with Inferno, they basically decided to remove ALL headshot angles

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The boxes on A site are smaller, Pit has no headshot angles at all anymore

sour nexus
wintry skiff
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the exposed part of pit (the mini wall) is lower too

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cant abused it anymore

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the boost in Lane is now way easier

sour nexus
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also A-Long got another cubby towards top mid

wintry skiff
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where the tic tac toe

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volvo plz fix

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unplayable

haughty bridge
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t spawn bells removed as well

sour nexus
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they decided to remove skill jumps aswell

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now everyone will play ropz yvessob

haughty bridge
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rip roof selfboost

sour nexus
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also movement feels very delayed, like I can't even b-hop without inputting a second earlier

haughty bridge
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movement felt a bit slippery for me

sour nexus
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back in the days, we called that spot library. now it is wine...ery?

haughty bridge
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its still called library in the game though

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boiler and library switched places lmao

wintry skiff
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car is still car to me

sour nexus
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they removed the 1:46 banana flash, seriously how are we supposed to flash the car player as T ??

haughty bridge
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annoying graveyard spot removed as well

sour nexus
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the new inferno... I dont like that

sour nexus
thorn flint
wintry skiff
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it feels pretty claustrophobic

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the map

sour nexus
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CT basically got nerfed in all their positions

haughty bridge
sour nexus
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A site is too open, B site is too open

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the map was T sided already

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and now with those changes

covert palm
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Arch would.block it

sour nexus
haughty bridge
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@covert palm jumpthrow

covert palm
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Haven't tried it lol not home

sour nexus
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if I take the time to find one

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oh nevermind XD

covert palm
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Gonna have to relearn

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Inferno smokes

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😔

sour nexus
haughty bridge
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yea im just testing around its not that accurate

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also not using a jumpthrow bind

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are you standing next to the white pipe

wintry skiff
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tf is that

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window jump isnt smooth anymore

haughty bridge
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its smooth from the ground tho maybe that cancels it out

haughty bridge
sour nexus
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Just played two games, one on Overpass, one on Inferno.
Inferno is basically more T sided than it ever has been. Overpass has just some tiny changes that will feel normal after a bit of playing

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Tbf it was Matchmaking, I think Inferno will play out differently on like a Faceit lv 10, especially with the tightened Banana

sour nexus
thorn flint
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I got in from the new wave (went out around 2 hours ago)

wintry skiff
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i dont know why

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but awping seems easier in cs2

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i cant spray to save my life now

sour nexus
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Sprays feel a bit off, but I've been hitting some bangers with the spray that would've never connected in GO

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And AWPing definitly feels a bit "easier" (smoother) in CS2

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But I can see me playing CS2 in the near future a lot, it isn't that bad as most people told me

wintry skiff
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people forgetting how bad csgo beta was

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💀

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its kinda normal for a beta to not feel "right"

sour nexus
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Definitly. I never watched any reviews whatsoever for CS2 and got the feel myself, and it isnt that bad

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Biggest issues right now for me are delayed movement, everything is so stupidly bright like a flashbang, real shadows that destroy the competitive aspect of the game

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and Inferno being... i dont wanna talk about this one yvessob

wintry skiff
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i have faith in valve

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what are they gonna do? release a bad game?

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its been decades since the last valve big flop

covert palm
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apparently

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the spray is slighty dif

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its tighter

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could be why it feels off

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inferno as a map looks amazing

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inferno as a game though....

thorn flint
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man deathmatch performance is brutal, i'll have to try premier

marsh ivy
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won a ranked game, got my rank, restarted game

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no cs2

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scam

thorn flint
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perhaps new wave tomorrow

covert palm
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maybe not for us

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asia plebs

thorn flint
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pretty sure OCE got invites in this last one

marsh ivy
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yeah i just didnt win a game last night

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to get it before the wave earlier today

runic fog
covert palm
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shEesh

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clean

deep plank
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nealan’s calls on inferno look pretty good

deep plank
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spoke too soon vivisad

deep plank
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nvm we’re so back

thorn flint
marsh ivy
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still don't have cs2 😔

wintry skiff
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"This morning, BLAST announced that the North American showdown will be restructured as the "Rest of the World" Showdown and will include teams like Complexity, Evil Geniuses, Liquid, Mongolz, and other international competitors."

wintry skiff
sour nexus
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Interesting

wintry skiff
sour nexus
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I wonder which TO asked him... hyunface

haughty bridge
sour nexus
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FaZe -neo +kuben when?

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also how tf did BIG choke a 14-4 lead yvessob

sour nexus
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oh my lord they finally made it...

waxen grail
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big W

wintry skiff
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Heroic downfall

sour nexus
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so happy that BIG made it

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If Krimbo keeps that form going, he can be MVP

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Currently top 4 in the tournament

wintry skiff
sour nexus
waxen grail
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heroic downfall?

wintry skiff
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we will be there

waxen grail
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idk what heroic need to do to solve anything

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LOL

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yeah thats not ideal from cadian and jabbi

wintry skiff
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cadian is their only consistent lan/playoffs player iirc

waxen grail
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Yeah basically

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for all casters talk up stavn he just

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disappears when its a big game

sour nexus
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Heroic truely living the old TSM/Astralis days now

wintry skiff
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there wont be a kjaerbye to save em

sour nexus
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he never really retired since he was in Endpoint

marsh ivy
waxen grail
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heroic downfall part 3?

wintry skiff
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Cs2 couldnt come sooner for them

sour nexus
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WHAT WAS THAT CADIAN

wintry skiff
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heroic playing in the semi-finals of Last Chance Stage

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its over for them

sour nexus
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atleast we got that insane highlight from cadiaN

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I swear if he would've hit the last one aswell...

wintry skiff
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br0

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he would have nightmares

sour nexus
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where did he came from???

marsh ivy
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mac my goat dropping an f bomb on cast

wintry skiff
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i mean

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EPL turned into Beyond The Summit in terms of vibes

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since last season

sour nexus
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I like that

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atleast someone needed to do that

marsh ivy
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cs summit was too good to not bring it back

sour nexus
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technical pause

marsh ivy
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was playing cs2 last night and it feels pretty good

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not sure if theyve done much in terms of gun mechanics but it feels more familiar

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as ive been playing val instead of cs since it came out

wintry skiff
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the sprays feel off

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but ive been enjoying cs2 more than csgo recently

sour nexus
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they made it

wintry skiff
sour nexus
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stavn slowly crawling into the greens

thorn flint
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got placed 9650

wintry skiff
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  • stavn in playoffs
waxen grail
sour nexus
wintry skiff
waxen grail
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genuinely i dont even know what heroic should do roster wise

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what solves this

sour nexus
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remove TeSeS and add an experienced/consistent dane

wintry skiff
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the only one available is dupreeh

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but i dont know about that one

waxen grail
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idk why my mind went to danish niko

sour nexus
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but he playing with 00Nation now

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I was thinking about es3tag because he never really had a chance to prove what he's capable of after that Astralis stint

waxen grail
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oh

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hmmm

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thats not a bad idea

sour nexus
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when he joined NIP, their roster kept going to be an EG clone

wintry skiff
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get glaive

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cadian into full focus awp

sour nexus
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naah, two completely different calling styles

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its like fallen and art in Furia

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you cant do that

waxen grail
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W

wintry skiff
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gotta sell jerseys

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if youre not going to win

sour nexus
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you don't want to destroy their system, just improve it

waxen grail
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i do think stavn is the worst like

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"big player"

wintry skiff
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did heroic try to sign Staehr

sour nexus
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no

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basically every heroic member renewed their contract last autumn/fall

wintry skiff
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at least stavn & jabbi are still super young

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can still improve

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next tournament for heroic

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is thunderpick in 6 weeks

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they,ll have time to reset

sour nexus
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they will win a Blast or two again and then suck at any other event again

wintry skiff
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OG vibes

wintry skiff
marsh ivy
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probably doesnt mean much short term

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but i do wonder if the cs team is looking to move long term

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afaik the esports side of faze kind of operates independently, just financed by the main business

wintry skiff
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Robban left so he could found his own esports org and sign faze team when it will inevitably collapse

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500iq play

haughty bridge
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doppler knives look 10x better in cs2 now

wintry skiff
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@sour nexus

sour nexus
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so basically our german national league merged with ESL last year just to be shut down

wintry skiff
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Aus scene about to die

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they dont even have Premier/ECL anymore

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now with AUZ Nationals gone

sour nexus
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so many scenes about to die

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only because ESL having less money due to louvre agreement being cancelled by valve

wintry skiff
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gotta rely on CCT

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we're so cooked

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maybe relog media could do fill a bit

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they were the MVP of early covid era

sour nexus
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ohhh they did the something Sweet something events

sour nexus
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daps standing in for Patsi, that means we got NA Liquid back ChuuPog

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They were also reaching out to Stewie if he can substitute

deep plank
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5yclone coming back from 5-14 and 2-8 deficits

sour nexus
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yoo those Gamma Doppler changes doubled my Bowie again

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also finally pink knives, but I think they might change it again from all the backlash

marsh ivy
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i want a knife but i feel like i missed the boat in terms of prices

sour nexus
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best time to buy a knife was basically prior to the first CS2 invites, now its just a roller coaster

marsh ivy
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yeah thats what i mean

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prices are fucked

sour nexus
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I am really considering selling my bowie now

marsh ivy
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that said idk what the best site is for buying anymore

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i used to use opskins back in the day

sour nexus
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but how will the prices evolve? can I even buy a new knife at a later point?

marsh ivy
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hmm gamma doppler bowie is only 900 nzd

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700 on bitskins

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kinda want a blue one though

sour nexus
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yea blue and red pink ones very expensive

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just checked multiple gamma doppler knives, like all of them atleast doubled, some even tripled in price

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but the cheapest good looking doppler starts at like 800€, and thats in a bad condition

marsh ivy
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phase 2s are cool

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a shame the bowie equip animation kinda sucks since those are rather cheap

marsh ivy
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what the fuck did valve do with cs2 on friday

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shits almost unplayable now with the amount of lag

thorn flint
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don't have what you're experiencing but i do think it's felt worse since friday

haughty bridge
sour nexus
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But thats years ago, been talking about this year

wintry skiff
wintry skiff
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@sour nexus

sour nexus
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Who tho??

wintry skiff
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floppy

waxen grail
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who would he replace?

wintry skiff
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tabsen in a few years

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when he'll transition to coach

waxen grail
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hmmm thats possible

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BIG roster right now looks kinda solid

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i think theyre just back to tabsen calling i think?

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and not developing s1n into igl rn

sour nexus
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basically yes

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s1n needs time to adapt to tier 1 fully, gaining the experience before they might switch back

waxen grail
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makes sense

wintry skiff
sour nexus
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crying after aespa concert

wintry skiff
waxen grail
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average vp game

sour nexus
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Yekindar trying to out-Jame Jame himself

waxen grail
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vp play so fucking boring but i cant help but respect it

sour nexus
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well, Jame out-jame'd Yekindar

waxen grail
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the master beats the apprentice

waxen grail
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today has been a big day

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hooxi top frag niko bottom frag

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new g2 unlocked

sour nexus
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Liquid getting robbed of IEM Shanghai CAC because no Visa OliviaLol

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that will be a -Patsi very soon if it continues like that

sour nexus
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the Astralis core of dev1ce, Staehr and blameF will be long term now after blameF renewed his contract

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that will be a good time for them

waxen grail
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ooooh that’s good

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i like the astralis lineup rn

sour nexus
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same

wintry skiff
wintry skiff
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Blast circuit downfall

sour nexus
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RMR to Katowice to Major

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Blast will be f-ed

wintry skiff
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bring back pro series

sour nexus
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and after the major one week until IEM China and then another week until Pro League

wintry skiff
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need more events outside of EU

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more OCE events

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more AME events

sour nexus
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especially after the end of national leagues

wintry skiff
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also

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bring back academy leagues

wintry skiff
waxen grail
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idk how reliable but

wintry skiff
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All that just to lose vs g2 or vitality

waxen grail
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ok im thinking that

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c9 need to not have elec igl

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LOL

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pls c9

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-hobbit +igl

wintry skiff
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didnt jerry re/sign with an org recently

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i dont think theres a eastern european T1 igl available

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except you know

waxen grail
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which is a shame

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he wouldve been a great addition

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and i dont think spirit are letting chopper go whatsoever

wintry skiff
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need him to dev donk & artfrost

waxen grail
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yup

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thats his job

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i trust him to do a good job

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ngl i wanted -npl +jerry before navi blew it up

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have you guys seen the new vp tside strat

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just rotate buying aks and tec9s

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and never have a full buy

wintry skiff
#

yes

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ynk really didnt like it

waxen grail
#

it was hilarious to watch

#

that cast made it maybe the most fun t round

wintry skiff
#

worst part was that VP managed to break the other team's economy

#

and win the half

#

iirc

waxen grail
#

Yeah

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and the other team was g2

#

LMAO

sour nexus
#

wait what??

#

now I need to rewatch VP vs G2 just to see what you mean

waxen grail
#

it was hilarious

deep plank
#

jame is galaxy brain, its working on t-side inferno against TL rn

#

nvm they just got eco'd against full usps

waxen grail
#

LMAO

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the jame half buy is my favorite thing

#

the best thing is that 9/10 times norbert has a pistol

#

it doesnt matter if he has the money for an ak

#

he just buys it and then drops it to mir or fl1t

deep plank
#

the new sanji

waxen grail
#

i will say it does feel like vp lacks a consistent star rifler

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

looking this game now

#

vp vs tl

waxen grail
#

mir was a good addition

sour nexus
#

oh absolutely

#

but what is going on with oSee nowadays?

waxen grail
#

how are c9 losing to eternal fire

#

what is happening

sour nexus
#

he suddenly starts to frag

sour nexus
waxen grail
#

nah its just 1-0 series right now

sour nexus
#

why are they playing vertigo?

waxen grail
#

that was map 1 yeah

sour nexus
#

elec and perfecto on vertigo is just ????????????????

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sh1ro can be a beast on Nuke, screw Vertigo

waxen grail
wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

oh wait C9 won the first match against EF, nevermind

sour nexus
wintry skiff
waxen grail
#

did you get a chance to see the great vp inferno tside strat btw @sour nexus

sour nexus
#

no, I got access to a certain kpop festival livestream

#

so maybe I didnt watch the game

waxen grail
#

LOL

#

worth it

sour nexus
#

VP in playoffs, i will see it surely one day

waxen grail
#

its worth watching another time just to see the casters lose their mind

sour nexus
#

even worse than PGL

#

trust me when I say that.

waxen grail
#

LOL

waxen grail
#

im sorry what

#

c9 got 2-0d by eternal fire

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

where is my C9 super team I was talking about

#

get an israeli player who can speak russian ChoerryNervous

wintry skiff
#

Might as well make hobbit igl

#

If hes not gonna perform up to par

sour nexus
#

they could've gotten Jerry but they missed their chance

wintry skiff
graceful knoll
#

Any day now...

wintry skiff
#

its wednesday

graceful knoll
#

Damn

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I thought it was Tuesday

#

Its really here

sour nexus
#

if they really continue with him, they will be top 50 very quickly

marsh ivy
#

what time do cs updates usually drop

#

it wont be in the next 12 hours will it?

graceful knoll
wintry skiff
#

Dont lose sleep over it

haughty bridge
haughty bridge
#

paris capsule sales finally removed

wintry skiff
#

Its time

#

Its the sign weve been waiting for

sour nexus
#

Can't connect to the steam network either with GO...

wintry skiff
#

prolly waiting for COL vs Monte game to finish

#

before

#

ujpdating

sour nexus
#

nvm CS2 not working aswell

wintry skiff
#

imagine the scenes if they updated the game mid EPL match

sour nexus
#

I just wanna check if I even bought the Paris capsule, like I dont remember buying them at sale at all

#

wait, MOUZ just slapped FaZe out of pro league?

#

like literally slapped

wintry skiff
#

mouz cs2 era

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

they weren't

#

unless they were lying

wintry skiff
#

saving strats for major

wintry skiff
#

wait

#

is the delay due yto cs2

waxen grail
wintry skiff
runic fog
#

ITS HERE

marsh ivy
#

6gb update damn

stuck vessel
#

This channel back alive

wintry skiff
marsh ivy
#

I opened 5 cases and only got blues

#

scam

stuck vessel
#

Ohh you get cases?

#

Nice

marsh ivy
#

no i just had drops that hadn’t been opened

wintry skiff
deep plank
#

no in-game browser for community servers now?

wintry skiff
wintry skiff
#

if you know you know

marsh ivy
#

a banger

haughty bridge
#

you get to see your next drops cool

wintry skiff
#

Graffiti supply in the mud

#

Whos gonna take em

haughty bridge
#

also Paris are still on sale choerryNLTzoom

sour nexus
#

bro everyone being forced onto CS2 is such a pain in matchmaking right now

#

me and my friends (below 2k faceit) get queued with like +2.6k elo players, how am I supposed to win

#

???

waxen grail
#

????

wintry skiff
#

+c9

waxen grail
#

hmm that could work ig

waxen grail
deep plank
#

Counter-Strike

haughty bridge
#

Counter-Strike.

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

tbf its like s1mple with NaVi

wintry skiff
#

Join liquid

#

S1mple did it

deep plank
#

i love snax but I dont see where this makes sense

waxen grail
#

oh shit snax LOL

#

this doesn’t make any sense though yeah

sour nexus
#

I give them 3 months until -Snax happens

wintry skiff
#

keeping an igl for less than 6 months

sour nexus
#

poor acoR, he found his form under siuhy and now he is being stuck in tier -1 again

wintry skiff
#

is a waste of time

#

for everybody involved

waxen grail
wintry skiff
#

this aint it

#

bro

#

omg

waxen grail
#

nealan was absolutely not the problem imo

#

but you also

#

cant drop anyone who is

#

or else you lose the iem spot

#

LOL

#

last time snax was like

#

actually playing well was what

#

on ence as a standin?

sour nexus
#

but we all know that standin buff does exist

#

so basically... when he was playing for MOUZ in 2018

waxen grail
#

LOL

#

oh boy

#

idk why you drop nealan to get either shox or snax

#

especially for igl

sour nexus
#

yea doesnt make sense to me

#

yes, those two are experienced, but everyone knows that them as the primary IGL just won't work at all

waxen grail
#

the only way it does is if nealan and say keoz or acor dont get along

sour nexus
#

they have their ego, they have their own way of playing the game

sour nexus
waxen grail
#

and you i dont think you can drop either of those guys because of roster for sydney

waxen grail
#

either liquid or c9 should go for nealan imo

#

they both need actual igls so badly

sour nexus
#

its such a pain that we dont have the IGLs, and the ones that are out there dont get a chance to proof themselves

#

either because they get put in a shitty lineup that cant be fixed with only -igl +igl

#

or they get booted after like 3 months for no reason (GL looking at you)

waxen grail
#

i still think its insane that c9 didnt immediately go for jerry once forze dropped him

waxen grail
wintry skiff
#

cant replace osee/naf/yekindar

#

for the next events tho

waxen grail
#

or -patsi

#

since his visa situation seems to not be ideal

#

LOL

#

i just dont want to see electronic or yekindar igl anymore

#

yekindar thinking he was going to out igl jame was the funniest thing

sour nexus
#

Yekindar right now is like electronic back when he started IGLing

#

they were performing good, the team was able to win a bit

wintry skiff
#

without the great coach behind it

sour nexus
#

but once they are figured out, its done

wintry skiff
#

no disrespect to daps

waxen grail
#

daps is not blad3

#

and they also dont have simple

#

LOL

sour nexus
#

just get a good IGL that can work with AWPers and a decent support player for liquid

waxen grail
#

is Yekindar even performing well individually right now?

sour nexus
#

he did at Pro League

sour nexus
#

IGLs basically none

waxen grail
#

oH

#

the ITB guy

sour nexus
#

Thomas?

waxen grail
#

yeah

sour nexus
#

he is on a break until CS2 release... oh wait 💀

waxen grail
#

thats at least something

#

i wonder how itb is doing with qikert igl

wintry skiff
#

doesnt he want to stay in a uk cs team?

#

roster

waxen grail
#

i have no idea

sour nexus
waxen grail
#

going amazing i see

sour nexus
#

I am surprised about tiziaN IGL

wintry skiff
#

at least they made their sticker money

sour nexus
#

like they were beating every team at the European Pro League except loosing twice to Sprout with all 3 or 5 maps in the game

waxen grail
#

tizian igl is

#

something

#

i dont know enough about sprout's roster tbh

sour nexus
#

raalz IGL, w0nderful AWP, rest i dont know at all

waxen grail
#

w0nderful looked ok on spirit from what i saw

sour nexus
#

i dont even know what Zyphon did for CPH Flames back then

waxen grail
#

really inconsistent but

#

generally ok

sour nexus
#

somehow Sprout does work pretty well with raalz IGL, even back then with the first itteration where he was calling

wintry skiff
#

wonderful is him

#

for t2

waxen grail
#

ok well they 2-0d apeks

sour nexus
#

and bNE

waxen grail
#

and wonderful went kinda off

wintry skiff
#

took it personally

sour nexus
#

within their last 15 games they only lost 2

#

Liquid should get raalz

#

he always makes it work with Sprout, so why not give him a shot at a tier 1 team

waxen grail
#

im going to go on a limb and say wonderful is helping this team win games

#

this was against bne

waxen grail
#

W

deep plank
#

rip g2

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

m0.17nesy OliviaLol

#

oh it was only Mirage T side, I thought it was a whole map

wintry skiff
#

I was watching monesy

#

Ruining hooxi last chance to win epl

sour nexus
#

there is only one real choice... P250 Sand Dune all the way!

wintry skiff
#

thx for the case daeveu

sour nexus
#

gimme ur steam then

wintry skiff
wintry skiff
#

@sour nexus i was joking

sour nexus
#

guess you were not

haughty bridge
deep plank
#

i believe in sand dune supremacy heejinpray

sour nexus
wintry skiff
#

last T1 CSGO finals ever

waxen grail
#

aleksi vs sergej’s brother

wintry skiff
#

the goat

#

vs s1mple

waxen grail
wintry skiff
#

who's the replacement

#

istg if its something similar to +snax

waxen grail
#

i dont mind getting rid of brollan

waxen grail
sour nexus
#

They wanna fix the role clashes, so it has to be a passive/supportive player or an IGL

wintry skiff
#

Awping es3tag

#

Headtrick back to rifling

#

Woukd be funny

sour nexus
#

what roles did headtrick had before awping?

wintry skiff
#

Brollan aug/sg abuser akarinanod2

sour nexus
#

like was he star rifler, was he supportive?

wintry skiff
#

Didnt watch the academy league seapns

wintry skiff
#

Before it got shutdown

sour nexus
#

Would NIP gamble on nealan as an IGL ?

wintry skiff
#

I only know that mouz built a dynasty

sour nexus
#

Then put hampus as their lurk, k0nfig entry and REZ 2nd entry/star rifle

wintry skiff
#

From eg to nip

#

Nealan going to the worse orgs in t1

sour nexus
#

Back in the very old days where they got karrigan to make him a great star player, then they pulled NiKo out of nowhere, ropz, frozen, now the Academy players

wintry skiff
#

Man i wonder how frozen would play with another star rifler like ropz under a karrigan level igl

sour nexus
#

-rain +frozen

#

-broky +w0xic

#

But you didnt hear that from me

wintry skiff
#

-karrigan +siuhy

#

In 2-3 yrs

sour nexus
#

Yes

#

No but hear me out, bring back 2019 MOUZ but -chrisJ +Twistzz

#

and some day -karrigan +siuhy

wintry skiff
#

-woxic +sunpapi

sour nexus
#

Would be an idea aswell, especially after woxic dropped of during EF

wintry skiff
#

-magisk +nertz

sour nexus
#

Anyways, rooting for MOUZ this final. siuhy really knows how to use his academy players the best

wintry skiff
#

Aleksib needs this one

#

For his legacy

sour nexus
wintry skiff
sour nexus
wintry skiff
#

All aim no brain

sour nexus
wintry skiff
#

S1mple out his slump?

sour nexus
wintry skiff
#

:snappi

sour nexus
#

S1mple out of his personal/ego problems?

wintry skiff
#

When avg around 1.14

#

Is a slump for you

#

You know hes him

sour nexus
#

MOUZ got a 100% winrate in EPL finals, NaVi only has 50%

#

so I am rooting for Mouz WinterSmile

#

oh nevermind, forgot Online was a thing aswell. so Navi 33% and Mouz 50%

sour nexus
#

It looks like either b1t or s1mple will be the MVP of the event, doesnt matter if NaVi wins or not. frozen would need like a 1.5 or something like that across all maps to get even close to MVP

marsh ivy
#

was gonna buy a knife but decided on an ak neon rider instead

#

torn between a4 and a1

sour nexus
#

why choose if not both

haughty bridge
#

just ask your teammates to drop their ak skins hyunface

marsh ivy
#

lol someone on a podcast i watch bought a sapphire butterfly right around cs2 announcement iirc

#

i think he had a running bet going that it’d go up in value, which last they brought it up he was up 2k or so

thorn flint
#

it was way more than that he bought it for 14k right?

marsh ivy
#

no i mean he said it went up in value by 2k

#

by the time it was brought up again on the pod

wintry skiff
#

the only one who can save c9

sour nexus
#

s1mple played more shotguns than AWP in this grand final so far ???

#

atleast on CT

waxen grail
#

jimpphat is insane

wintry skiff
#

mouz cs2 era

sour nexus
waxen grail
wintry skiff
waxen grail
#

no matter what finland wins

sour nexus
#

back in ENCE, it was Mr. Salo Jr

#

now in MOUZ, it is Mr. Salo Jr Jr

covert palm
#

crazy

#

Mouz have been insane

#

its joever it has to be

sour nexus
#

LETS GO MOUZ

covert palm
#

holy Mouz

wintry skiff
#

gg

covert palm
#

respect

#

where was this torzi

#

before holy shit man

sour nexus
#

holy shit man

covert palm
#

siuhy has unleashed him

#

siuhy dif

sour nexus
#

I swear this mouz lineup will slap

#

and if we look at longevity for them if they stick together, their average age is 20 with the oldest all being 21 ???

wintry skiff
#

frozen only being 21

#

is crazy

covert palm
#

oh shit

#

i was about to say that too

#

i thought he was older

wintry skiff
#

playing t1 since 2019

covert palm
#

his only 21 holy shit

#

Jimpphat is 17 ? right

sour nexus
#

he started in 2019 while being 16 and winning EPL back then

wintry skiff
#

torzi is older than frozen

sour nexus
#

yes jimmy is 17

wintry skiff
#

by a few months

covert palm
#

my gosh

#

frozen is the oldest

#

at 21

#

july

#

wait no

#

torzi is may

wintry skiff
#

ye

covert palm
#

that core actl

#

is insane

sour nexus
#

we always wanted their academy players + frozen

wintry skiff
#

torzi
frozen
siuhy
xertion
jimmy

sour nexus
#

now we got that

#

and we got the trophy

#

MOUZ era starting today?

covert palm
#

lowk

wintry skiff
#

german org without any german players

covert palm
#

mouz era in cs2

wintry skiff
sour nexus
#

oh true

#

germany got another trophy

#

so happy that MOUZ finally has a good lineup and finally won a trophy again

#

teddybear made it with MVP

sour nexus
wintry skiff
wintry skiff
waxen grail
#

@wintry skiff well damn u called it LMAO

wintry skiff
#

-hobbit

#

🙏

waxen grail
#

c9 actual superteam?

wintry skiff
#

damn

#

is navi 5th player going to become like nip 5th

waxen grail
#

hmmm yeah probably

#

i agree on the iM point

#

he doesn’t seem to be able to get past it when the team mood is shit

#

jl can more

#

altho i did see jL desk slam a couple times which i don’t think i’ve ever seen

wintry skiff
#

its contagious

waxen grail
#

who tilts more in general

#

niko or simple

wintry skiff
#

since 2022

#

i would say simple

waxen grail
#

niko i think looks tilted a ton

#

but it never seems as like

#

aggressively titled at team like simple

wintry skiff
waxen grail
#

at least blade knows

wintry skiff
#

jl & iM you are TSM players

waxen grail
#

-iM +interz

wintry skiff
#

i dont think thats possible

waxen grail
#

just start speaking russian apart from aleksi

wintry skiff
#

since the war

#

and all

waxen grail
#

hmm

#

i mean

#

depends if he moves tbh

#

i thought navi just wouldn’t sign russian players if they live in russia/would need to pay a russian org for buyout

wintry skiff
#

idk if interz is in russia

#

since tsm being the cheap org it is

#

prolly isnt paying for a gaming house

waxen grail
#

i’m entirely joking btw, navi going international is probably best since idk how good a just straight up full ukrainian team would be

wintry skiff
#

well if s1mple didnt have beef with sdy/woro2k

#

maybe s1mple to rifling again if w0nderful