Doesn't matter. Still got $25M in just 1 week
#Gacha Chat
viscid elm
People just mad they don't get the 180 pulls on login. God forbid people have to play the game to get the 180
past ibex
the game definitely isn't perfect by any means but it just feels like people are just not used to this kind of gameplay
and are throwing stuff out like it's too simple, combat is too easy, etc.
it feels like people were just expecting another genshin or hsr clone
viscid elm
Doesn't help that the YouTuber meta right now is to hate on ZZZ. Why? Hatebaiting
past ibex
instead of something fresh and new
viscid elm
You got these actual helpful ZZZ guides on YT clocking in at like 10K and the anti-ZZZ at 500K+
past ibex
I knew this community was already doomed but everytime a new gacha comes out (wuwa and zzz), people are so weird with it and don't appreciate all the good stuff we're getting
none of these games are perfect but god the way people talk about it I would expect that it was a complete mess
buoyant grotto
i think zzz was doomed since last cbt bc it was terrible
viscid elm
Tribe mentality. People don't like seeing their favorite gacha games lose the "new and shiny game" status
past ibex
whatever happened during the cbt doesn't matter anymore the game is already out and it's more polished than genshin and hsr have ever been
viscid elm
It happened with Genshin players when ToF/HSR released, it happened with HSR players when WuWa released. It happened with Wuwa players with ZZZ
past ibex
hsr is goated but let's not pretend like the devs didn't have to put in a lot of work to improve the quality of the game over the past year
viscid elm
I'm willing to gacha that it'll happen with ZZZ players when a new gacha release
It's like the console wars with Xbox, Playstation, and Nintendo but with gacha games 
past ibex
and even as good as hsr has been, you still have people complaining
buoyant grotto
just fix tv and zzz will be cool 8/10 game
viscid elm
You'd think gacha gamers would stand together against people who hate gacha games
Genshin really opened up gacha to so many people, which is good and bad
slow ore
and are throwing stuff out like it's too simple, combat is too easy, etc.
Ask them to play in challenge mode
viscid elm
I had to scour through so many APK sites just to get to be able to play Azur Lane and Kancolle back in the day 
past ibex
back in my day international kancolle fans were happy we even got an english ui
viscid elm
Gacha games used to be limited to CN/JP players 
past ibex
ngl cn fans are just as bad as international ones
like the stuff they get outraged over sometimes is so silly and so overblown
viscid elm
I had to fcking read PDF documents on how the menu even works because I can't read a lick of Chinese or Japanese
past ibex
they don't know how good they have it now 
buoyant grotto
Gacha games used to be limited to CN/JP players <a:mhm:1254881761872314561>
fifa ultimate team 
past ibex
Ask them to play in challenge mode
they probably quit the game before finding out that there was a challenge mode
viscid elm
Don't tell lootbox players that, they will fight anyone who call them gacha players
Apparently to them, gacha ≠ lootboxes for some reason
In the end, they're all the same thing 💀
viscid elm
they probably quit the game before finding out that there was a challenge mode
I've always played in challenge mode 
past ibex
I was too big of a noob
buoyant grotto
same
past ibex
played it safe
buoyant grotto
i mean i play in cm too
slow ore
In challenge mode all the enemies will come at you and you need to perfect dodge or perfect assist time to time else you get attacked easily
viscid elm
I should try doing a mission outside of CM to see how big of a difference it is
past ibex
zzz is gonna have me in hell every banner making me want to pull
buoyant grotto
I should try doing a mission outside of CM to see how big of a difference it is
huge
past ibex
i already want the next two public sector characters
viscid elm
I just want Miyabi
past ibex
she shouldn't be far off me thinks considering she's already been shown this early on in the story
also we do know she's an ice dps why does she and ellen exist tgt
her gameplay looks sick though
about what you'd expect from a samurai
viscid elm
buoyant grotto
i just want grace 😭
viscid elm
Miyabi: 👀
past ibex
haven't really encountered any bugs so far
though i've experienced some fps drops in certain areas
buoyant grotto
haven't really encountered any bugs so far
i had only few graphical ones
viscid elm
It's not optimised great atm or maybe it's just my potato PC
I get some drops while in the streets. But hollow fights are smooth
buoyant grotto
i either didnt encounter fps drops or im just used to my pc being inconsistent potato
past ibex
there's a new area in the big city later on that's a lot bigger than the other areas we've seen
and my frames just
die on me
buoyant grotto
soon™️
viscid elm
Probably cause of the number of NPCs walking around
Which I like though, makes the world feel alive
slow ore
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viscid elm
You even get to see Gura and friends hanging out in the streets
buoyant grotto
F
past ibex
npcs in this game also definitely feel a lot more alive and unique
slow ore
And there are both male and female versions
For me only the female versions played
For pulling Grace and Nekomata's W-Engine
buoyant grotto
when u have to do 6 tv minigames to get 1 fight node 
past ibex
I hope we get more of the rally commissions where you just have to fight
save the tv minigames for like main story stuff only
buoyant grotto
not even grace 😔
stage 5 wo ellen/furry is 💀
my entire hoyo acc is doomed for shitting on hoyo ig
viscid elm
I am also a simple man
I got good char, game is good
And in my case, this game is a masterpiece 
buoyant grotto
in my case game is terrible
opal drum
hazy seal
I have nothing outside of furry m*n
long tapir
Rip
viscid elm
buoyant grotto
I have nothing outside of furry m*n
at least hes op
hazy seal
at least hes op
Yeah but I pulled Dehya and triple crowned her because she is hot
slow ore
Content
buoyant grotto
V3 hits hard
its with fuxuan skill on
past ibex
sick
buoyant grotto
past ibex
oh the miyabi thing is just the one from the story lol
buoyant grotto
at least hes humanoid
past ibex
send link 
viscid elm
past ibex
thank
pretty insane luck to start off the game
oh damn you got the w-engine too
LMAO 20 pulls in
past ibex
what can I say i'm a hoyoverse simp and they've rewarded me
long tapir
where my reward then 🥹
buoyant grotto
only gacha i was somewhat lucky in was genshin
but genshin is ass
opal drum
Lol
viscid elm
3,5||00|| stars 
past ibex
done with all the possible floors
viscid elm
Lycaon's EN voice whenever he says "I shall follow your orders" reminds me of old ass RTS game I used to play back in day, Battle Realms
shrewd orbit
super early bangboo S rank
first 10 pull after butler
plugboo
oh pog another 10 pull login event in a couple days
hazy seal
How much do I wanna invest in chars for Envisaged Echoes
opal drum
???
hazy seal
On mobile?
past ibex
does it just say
- alt-f4
viscid elm
does it just say
1. alt-f4
Kirito should've just Alt+F4'd, let's be honest
past ibex
harsh
viscid elm
Good lord the cutscene for ||Koleda vs Robot thingy|| was amazing
past ibex
she went plus ultra in those last moments
viscid elm
ZZZ main story: ||It ended with the power of friendship family but I'll give them a pass||
dreamy trout
The only complaint I really have about ZZZ is that the combat is basically just pressing attack over and over again and now and then clicking on the button that appears on screen
Outside of the most boring and easiest combat of my life, the game is kinda silly, in a good way that is
dreamy trout
Damn
For some reason it's kinda difficult to exit the game yeah, dunno why they didn't just add a button for it
You have to go into the menu, then the sub menu of the menu, click logout, then in the login screen you can close the game
past ibex
the combat thing is only really cause we're still in the early phases of the game and people don't really know how to use the combos properly
they do have quite a few abilities if you read em and actually figuring out proper rotations will be needed
it's just in the early game you don't really have to do any of it and just do your normal hack and slash
dreamy trout
Oh I read everything
And actually practiced
But I noticed none of the combo's and "transitions" are like needed ?yet?
I'd wish they'd have it from the start though so you'd actually learn. Instead of providing the tools but then nothing to use the tools on
past ibex
i'm pretty sure the devs did mention that they wanted the early stages to be easy, as we get more characters and start trying the end game content it won't be as easy as just spamming buttons
pretty similar with their other gacha games
dreamy trout
Yeah I don't like that :(
hazy seal
Fancy combo gotta wait till HI3 level of cracked
past ibex
heck even with star rail when we started off it was just oonga boonga seele infinite turns
gameplay has become a lot more developed since then
with the introduction of more characters and game modes
- people getting a better undestanding of the game over time
dreamy trout
Like, the story part is enjoyable but it just makes the actual gameplay part feel boring when it's just pressing the attack button for a minute without looking
hazy seal
Combo are part of the "word count spike" that you'll see in the future when they run out of raw numbers to throw at new characters
shrewd orbit
YEAHHHHH
dreamy trout
Give it to me at the start, force me to learn at the start of the game
shrewd orbit
got the whole belobog gang now
hazy seal
It is what it is
dreamy trout
Don't give me super boring combat until endgame, because then I'll just be burnt out by the time I actually reach interesting combat
hazy seal
By the same argument, people need to familiarise with pure basic combat
hazy seal
The very thing you enjoy can be what others dislike 🤷♀️
hazy seal
First there's attacking, then holding attack, then skills, then dodge/counters
dreamy trout
Right now the difficulty option doesn't do anything
hazy seal
Not everyone can play Hwei as a beginner but that doesn't mean people should be forced to if they rolled that character 🤷♀️
dreamy trout
Or if it actually does then I don't want to imagine how easy it is without
dreamy trout
Not everyone can play Hwei as a beginner but that doesn't mean people should be ...
I am not saying that
They already provided a difficulty slider in the game
All they need to do is make challenge mode actually challenging
I want to learn your cool combat system, please let me learn your cool combat system
Having to do the most mind numbing combat to continue with an enjoyable story is just... a bit of a bitter taste in between the sweet. And having to continue doing that in the hopes that maaaybe it'll get more difficult so I can actually learn and use their designs is also just... eh
past ibex
hmm i've never really played any gacha games that were really difficult during the story mode, most of the difficult combat comes from their endgame
not even just a hoyoverse thing, goes for other gachas i've played too
it's just how they do it, the story is just there to breeze through and enjoy it, then for the people who really want to be challenged then you have your abyss, memory of chaos, etc.
everytime people have had hard bosses like with tartaglia in genshin or aventurine in star rail they've had to nerf it 
dreamy trout
But they have a difficulty slider!!???
There's no need for this in zzz
They added a difficult slider and then they forgot to actually make it difficult or challenging
past ibex
well maybe it may not be difficult for you but it might be difficult for others
guess you're too good
dreamy trout
Wdym not difficult for me?
It's literally just pressing attack and that's it
In challenge mode
past ibex
i mean you just said it wasn't difficult or challenging
dreamy trout
Because it isn't
past ibex
well that's why I said what i said
dreamy trout
Or am I misunderstanding
It sounds like you're saying it might be difficult for others
shrewd orbit
i've seen people struggling with early game because they don't read tutorials
dreamy trout
Or did I misinterpret
past ibex
well who you are to judge for other people that it may not be difficult
shrewd orbit
so they just unga bunga
dreamy trout
I mean
dreamy trout
If you just press attack and win, I don't see how it can be difficult for others no
So I am to judge yes
past ibex
well don't we all have games where we don't get how other people can be not good at it
shrewd orbit
that stops being an option
past ibex
just like in league i don't get how people can miss cs or easy skillshots
for some it's difficult
for me it's easy
dreamy trout
Different example as that is more than just spamming attack
That's one step above spamming attack and requires timing
shrewd orbit
the early game is a bit slower than it maybe should be but there still needs to be an early game, you're supposed to use this early game to familiarise yourself with not spamming attack
past ibex
so if people are failing the challenge mode then they're just bad 
dreamy trout
Honestly, yes
past ibex
what if they can't dodge properly
and keep getting hit
does that not require reaction time
dreamy trout
I haven't had to press dodge once yet in challenge mode
past ibex
it's still easy to mess it up even if there's the indicator
I find that hard to believe cause i definitely had to dodge in normal mode
like the enemies are not gonna just not attack
dreamy trout
Don't get me wrong, I quite like the combat. The execution of it however is just so boring :(
Not having to pay attention to the game I'm playing because the gameplay simply doesn't require it kind of makes me feel like I should be playing something else that is actually interesting. Which is a real shame because I do like the story and other stuff in zzz so far
I guess the best way to describe it is that whenever a combat part appears, it feels like a chore
flat galleon
Looks like you're in the wrong part of gaming then if you want 'better' or 'harder' gameplay
dreamy trout
Depends
flat galleon
Not really the biggest selling point of gacha games in general
dreamy trout
Gameplay doesn't have to be hard to be enjoyable
It all comes down to the type of gameplay
Plenty of gameplay that can still be entertaining even when easy
flat galleon
Yeah but based on what you're explaining, your definition of enjoyable essentially boils down to the game having 'harder' or more 'complex' stuff
flat galleon
I'm putting it in quotation marks since you look to have a different definition of what we think that is
dreamy trout
I'm just saying that this specific type of gameplay
Which is combo focused fast paced combat lends itself very well to actually being forced to use said combos
If you have this whole combat system but then you basically don't have to use that combat system to actually progress, it just feels kinda lackluster
flat galleon
dreamy trout
Like, HSR, even if it's easy, I like more combat wise than this as you actually have to use the combat system they have implemented
I'll keep playing because I do want to know how the story continues and hopefully the combat gets more interesting sooner than later
viscid elm
Give it to me at the start, force me to learn at the start of the game
The thing is, if they make early game too hard, the more casual side of players will stop playing cause they won't be able to beat the levels
shrewd orbit
i'd say i'm at mid-game now and there's already a noticeable jump in difficulty
viscid elm
And casuals make up a good percentage of a gacha game's player base
So by making early game easy, you essentially give casuals and f2ps a chance to learn the mechanics and build up their characters enough to carry them to the midgame
It's why artifacts/disk drives are unlocked midgame and not outright
dreamy trout
The thing is, if they make early game too hard, the more casual side of players ...
But they have a difficulty option
So I don't see the issue
viscid elm
It's definitely an attempt
It's also for players who just wanna play for the story as said in the description of CM
dreamy trout
Like, they can add an "Ultimate Proxy" difficulty mode or something
viscid elm
Maybe in the future. The goal for 1.0 release atm is to get people hooked in the game for now
Gotta build a stable playerbase
shrewd orbit
the issue is that they can't make it much more difficult without people thinking that the gacha is being forced and that the issue isn't on their own skill but on not having the best units
that being said, chapter 1 was never gonna be hard
hard mode on chapter 2 is a big step up
weekly bosses are a greater threat
flat galleon
Almost all gacha games ever in existence use the same formula - step 1: new game, introduce mechanics, etc. => step 2: introduce 'more difficult mechanics overtime' => step 3: release limited characters to encourage people to spend to make life easier => start over from step 2, rinse and repeat.
If you expect a harder game from the get-go, boy I have news for you 
shrewd orbit
shiyu defense is only gonna get tougher
dreamy trout
weekly bosses are a greater threat
I hope so, would be nice
shrewd orbit
as are hollow explorations
dreamy trout
I'm not expecting hard, I'm expecting engaging
viscid elm
Almost all gacha games ever in existence use the same formula - step 1: new game...
Step 4: players complain no endgame, you add new endgame that promotes horizontal investment
Step 5: players complain about new endgame being too hard
flat galleon
you're clearly not the target audience for the game, go back at 2.0
shrewd orbit
then your issue is with the core mechanics, not the difficulty
dreamy trout
And as I said before, different forms of gameplay have different ways they can be engaging
No, I like the core mechanics
As I have said
The implementation of those mechanics however is what I find underwhelming as the game doesn't incentivize you to use the mechanics
shrewd orbit
how far in are you
dreamy trout
I would have to check when I get online
viscid elm
I mean, it's literally only 1.0 anyway so there's definitely a lot more coming
dreamy trout
But I believe I'm like early chapter 2?
Or well, I assume early? I don't know how long the chapter is
Maybe I'm already halfway
shrewd orbit
things pick up soon
viscid elm
ZZZ CH2 ending spoiler: ||mfw the final boss pulls out a 2nd phase out of nowhere||
dreamy trout
So far, only having played challenge difficulty, I haven't really had a reason from the game to use anything more over just using attacks and the buttons that pop up on screen . If that makes any sense
I do apologize if it can be a little difficult to sometimes understand what I mean since I am self-taught in English 
shrewd orbit
so are you just tanking hits instead of dodging/parry assists?
viscid elm
Ben mains be like
dreamy trout
I wouldn't really say tanking as the enemies don't really seem to attack a whole lot
But I can get through without any dodging yeah
flat galleon
I do apologize if it can be a little difficult to sometimes understand what I me...
I think it's more like you have different expectations on what a gacha game is like - sure in a perfect world it could very well be designed to be more engaging from day 0 for you but in reality, it's really not the point of gachas (especially newly released ones).
dreamy trout
No no
shrewd orbit
the fights are faster and more engaging if you use dodge attacks
dreamy trout
I think a good example here is wuwa, like, it's super easy, but you actually have to use the mechanics the game gives you
shrewd orbit
i mean
i kinda get where you're coming from now with zzz because wuwa took 0 effort
parries basically did themselves
dreamy trout
But in zzz I don't see any real difference in outcome between just pressing attack and nothing else and actually trying
dreamy trout
I think a good example here is wuwa, like, it's super easy, but you actually hav...
Now the issue with wuwa however was that the stuff outside of the combat was just not it for me 
I'm trying to think if there's any other gacha where I don't really like or enjoy the combat or "combat" but I can't really think of any of the top of my head
viscid elm
For me, I don't like HSR's combat which is what made me ultimately drop it. Turn based combat just isn't my thing
past ibex
bro wasn't a pokemon kid 
hazy seal
HSR is more like the old summoners war
viscid elm
I mean, I did play a lot of Emerald back in the day
But that's like decades ago and I'd rather play open combat
flat galleon
I started from the OG pokemon blue so I liked hsr's turn based stuff
When you old enough to survive bind/wrap while poisoned from gen1, you can survive any turn based game
viscid elm
It's the main reason why I stopped enjoying Pokemon and YuGiOh despite being addicted to those games when I was a kid
hazy seal
Play chess
flat galleon
It's the main reason why I stopped enjoying Pokemon and YuGiOh despite being add...
yugioh went downhill after/around link/synchro stuff, can't change my mind
viscid elm
I actually did used to play chess professionally when I joined tournaments
hazy seal
Magnus Prime
past ibex
prime was an anime protagonist when he was younger
viscid elm
Nah, I only 99.9% played domestic and local. Only played 1 international in Vegas, got sponsored by Milo 
dreamy trout
Chess is fun
viscid elm
I think my life peaked at that point
past ibex
"only played 1 international in vegas" 😭
bro I ain't even been to the states much less play something in another country
hazy seal
Hall of Legends Prime
dreamy trout
"only played 1 international in vegas" 😭
Yeah, you guys don't play internationals???
hazy seal
Not even interdimensional smh
past ibex
I mean like the only thing I did competitively was basketball and that was only like within my state 
viscid elm
I had an exhibition with Wesley So once, cool dude tbh
hazy seal
Time to feature you on GothamChess
viscid elm
Was back when he represented the Philippines, now he's representing US
dreamy trout
The only sport I ever did competitively was football
dreamy trout
But was forced to quit 😔
viscid elm
I'm sure you can guess the outcome of that game Some random dude going up against Philippines' youngest grandmaster
hazy seal
Bro sacrificed the rook
viscid elm
The only sport I ever did competitively was football
Like football football or handegg?
hazy seal
Wtf is a kilometers
viscid elm
One day, 2K and FIFA players will accept their game can be classified as a gacha game
dreamy trout
lol
hazy seal
It is a gachi game for now
dreamy trout
FUT my favorite gacha fr fr
Still sad I had to drop football, I quite enjoyed it :(
viscid elm
hazy seal
So we have a Messi and a Magnus here
dreamy trout
I only played on province level as I was just a kid
viscid elm
Wait this is funnier
dreamy trout
I wouldn't say I was good, more like, average / fine? / okay
past ibex
i'm basically like the lebron james of my residential area
viscid elm
"this is not tookay"
hazy seal
LeBronze
dreamy trout
I couldn't do stuff like tricks and whatever, but everything else was decent
viscid elm
I'll link you the video in basketball chat, Bubba
How long do you guys think till Wise punches someone of the opposite gender?
dreamy trout
I don't know a single one of those characters :(
viscid elm
Kikuri is the constantly drunk girl in Bocchi
And Touma is the one that likes enacting gender equality upon his enemies
slow ore
You have to go into the menu, then the sub menu of the menu, click logout, then ...
It's because the developers wants us to do it in the way, where after clicking on the exit button and exiting the game, the TV turns off and zooms out a bit, then you come out of the game
viscid elm
Me who just alt+f4 out of my games
dreamy trout
It's because the developers wants us to do it in the way, where after clicking o...
Nice idea, but it's a bit awkward
All my friends also always do alt f4
I'm the only person I know who actually quits games through the quit button
slow ore
Nice idea, but it's a bit awkward
They even removed the option to exit directly in mobile
In ZZZ
dreamy trout
Do any mobile games even have an option to close the game?
I usually just swipe away an app to close it
Since apps don't usually have a close app button in the menu
slow ore
They even removed the option to exit directly in mobile
Pressing back button or doing the back Gesture (Android) will show you a window in-game to exit or not, press yes and you will come out of the game, this is in Genshin Impact and HSR
No need to go to login screen
But in ZZZ you have to go into login screen even in mobile
slow ore
Do any mobile games even have an option to close the game?
Yes
Android has
iPhone doesn't
slow ore
Android has
Using back button or back gesture
dreamy trout
Yeah, I'm iPhone user :P
slow ore
Pressing back button or doing the back Gesture (Android) will show you a window ...
This exists in Genshin Impact and HSR but this is missing in ZZZ
The mobile exit screen
Man why would they remove such a useful option
viscid elm
They want to SAO their players
dreamy trout
Time to go the iOS way and swipe to close :^)
dreamy trout
Wdym another? Do we have multiple?
buoyant grotto
Wdym another? Do we have multiple?
Prev tighnari va
viscid elm
There was Tighnari's EN va
He got the boot and got replaced by the dude from Wimpy Kid
Aight boys, time to speculate who's voicing the new Diluc. I nominate Chris Pratt
buoyant grotto
73 pity on standard
pulls or wait 1 week for lc
past ibex
wait 1 week for lc
don't think there's really anything on the standard that could change your life
dreamy trout
I'll voice him
shrewd orbit
this diluc stuff gets brought up like once a year
viscid elm
Yeah it was pointed out in the video
buoyant grotto
i have no idea how to max out this pf
shrewd orbit
past ibex
i have no idea how to max out this pf
I used dot first half and himeko Herta 2nd half
long tapir
i have no idea how to max out this pf
i used an acheron fuxuan team first half, with fuxuan on the debt lc that applies burn when attacked and himeko herta 2nd team
buoyant grotto
e2 acheron 😢
long tapir
oh yeah that helps a lot too
😭
on another topic my anby kinda hits pretty hard
more than my neko mata
buoyant grotto
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
buoyant grotto
long tapir
nice work
past ibex
big
buoyant grotto
😭
slow ore
Which Bangboo?
dreamy trout
The silliest looking one
buoyant grotto
dreamy trout
Certified whale moment :^)
buoyant grotto
Certified whale moment :^)
opal drum
Itto could never
slow ore
The silliest looking one
uhh which one is that?
dreamy trout
The one that looks like a silly lil fella
slow ore
All of them looks silly
slow ore
The one that looks like a silly lil fella
Confused moment
buoyant grotto
viscid elm
I just realized they lose clothes when you get them to C6
buoyant grotto
I just realized they lose clothes when you get them to C6
yeah and female ones lose even more
dreamy trout
Mihoyo, more like sushoyo
long tapir
buoyant grotto
@past ibex u meant this?
past ibex
<@278059184946282508> u meant this?
Yeah my frames get absolutely cooked, my friend had the same issue too
past ibex
I just realized they lose clothes when you get them to C6
Peep grace's one
buoyant grotto
Yeah my frames get absolutely cooked, my friend had the same issue too
same
dreamy trout
That's one thing I did notice, zzz makes my gpu run super hot compared to other games
hazy seal
zzz having its wuwa moment
past ibex
My fps is fine for the most part it's just in this particular city
My wuwa has been a lot better too but it still dies a bit in mt firmament
past ibex
Tough luck
shrewd orbit
past ibex
Wife
long tapir
Wife
viscid elm
Mommy
long tapir
past ibex
I love the siblings in zzz, feels like there's actually a big difference between choosing wise or belle
shrewd orbit
the siblings and fairy are by far the best main characters hoyo have given us
they're like, real characters 
opal drum
The first ones suck mostly, idk the ZZZ ones, the raccoons are done the best and are even funny, the last ones are okay but no one cares about the guy version not even the devs
long tapir
🤝
past ibex
I love when my main characters speak and not just have 1 or 2 lines everytime a main story drops
viscid elm
Honkai female MC tho 
shrewd orbit
the only part i don't like is her goofy run cycle
but i'd decided on picking wise months ago anyway
hazy seal
Finally I can start playing ZZZ for real
shrewd orbit
nice
past ibex
Speaking of male and female mcs, funny thing I realized is that growing up I always went with the male mcs cause I'm a dude and dudes are cooler, then over the past few years I've went for the female mc cause they're cuter
Like if I played pokemon I'd always choose the dude
Then one day I was like wait, what if I choose the girl
Epiphany right there
shrewd orbit
i went through the same thing but recently i've gone back to playing as guys more
it's nice to self-insert from time to time
past ibex
I can't escape the deer
buoyant grotto
I see jade opinions are very mixed
dreamy trout
She is hot
All that matters
past ibex
She's great for pure fiction but outside of that idk
viscid elm
hazy seal
All that matters
But I need to pull for Yunli so 🤷
shrewd orbit
piper+grace goes kinda hard
opal drum
I can't escape the deer
past ibex
Nice
small fulcrum
hope i can take a shot at argenti too
viscid elm
No more free pulls 
slow ore
Oh my, I haven't reached IKL 30 yet and I already reached this much pulls
slow ore
No more free pulls <:Sadge:1204388487219118121>
Sixth Street Giveaway starts tomorrow so another free 10 pulls
buoyant grotto
Oh my, I haven't reached IKL 30 yet and I already reached this much pulls
who are u saving for?
hazy seal
Sixth Street Giveaway starts tomorrow so another free 10 pulls
Cool, I can try for Ellen's weapon
long tapir
ayooooooooooooo
viscid elm
buoyant grotto
pov u r in new area
past ibex
yeah it seems like most people are having issues with it still
flat galleon
yeah true maybe apocalyptic too who knows
it was either her or qq - just go with jade
past ibex
my qq still hasn't been built and my sparkle has been like permanently benched
I kinda regret pulling for sparkle, I kinda did it on a whim cause I really liked her character, but I really don't have a use for her yet
buoyant grotto
u r not 1st person i see regretting pulling for sparkle
past ibex
yeah it's just like outside of dhil/qq comps, is she really better over any other support?
for fua teams, it's robin, for hypercarries like acheron or jingliu you want bronya for the 100% AA
and then there's ruan mei who just can be slotted in everywhere
hazy seal
I use her with Jingliu
flat galleon
yeah I really liked sparkle's kit but the current kit / available content just don't really help her cause 
I think I used her though a bit with jingliu when I had sw built as a 2nd carry
past ibex
Only reason I could see using sparkle is if I want to try building mono quantum
I might actually do that
long tapir
sparkle with qq would be so nice 😭
past ibex
I need silver wolf and fuxuan too for that though
long tapir
if its a qua based fight then no sw needed
past ibex
Yeah I just kinda want another comp that can brute force regardless of type
Also I like sw herself
Baby bronya
flat galleon
Only reason I could see using sparkle is if I want to try building mono quantum
I have most quantum characters - this is a lie
LOL
long tapir
you could also brute force it
past ibex
More weakness break
slow ore
More weakness break
Supa break time
hazy seal
Time to take a break
viscid elm
past ibex
huge
hazy seal
Gosh
viscid elm
https://imgur.com/a/hjf9oNb
I was initially confused if this was for Genshin, ZZZ, HSR, or WuWa
Maybe it's time for seperate threads
shrewd orbit
it's genshin but ngl
this new 'night spirit' gimmick for natlan characters sounds like zzz ex specials
past ibex
not plagiarism if it's from your own games 
viscid elm
I wish you can turn off or lessen the NPCs in the Streets of ZZZ
It's where I'm mostly lagging atm, and at night it goes back to 60+ fps because there's literally no one there
Maybe it truly is time to switch to an SSD
dreamy trout
Me with 5TB worth of ssd's
shrewd orbit
genshin+zzz takes up most of one of my ssds
viscid elm
My laptop has space on the inside to add an SSD but I'd have to get one installed and OS moved for me cause that's out of my experience
dreamy trout
I can guide you through it if you want :v
viscid elm
I'll just pay the dude who'll install the SSD 
Also I just finished Lv30 rank up mission and the Square map is filled with NPCs
viscid elm
MyGo coming in to save the Bandori gacha 
buoyant grotto
damn 1%
past ibex
10/10 would nom again
shrewd orbit
apparently new hydro girl will have the same EN VA as Hu Tao
viscid elm
You had me at Hu Tao
graceful needle
:o
viscid elm
https://vxtwitter.com/dimbreath/status/1811430557412417736
bruh that skill page pose 💀
No way that thing is passing in China
buoyant grotto
bruh that skill page pose 💀
at least its on adult character
for Miyabi leaks
dreamy trout
https://vxtwitter.com/dimbreath/status/1811430557412417736
Boing boing boing
buoyant grotto
dreamy trout
Yes
graceful needle
woah
dreamy trout
Duolingo has been posting Klee videos on their IG like all week
I guess it all makes sense now
graceful needle
klee must be v popular
dreamy trout
She's my first 5*
graceful needle
mine was keqing
slow ore
https://vxtwitter.com/dimbreath/status/1811430557412417736
Rethinking myself if I should pull for Zhu Yuan
/j
I will still pull for Zhu Yuan
Big
+19 extra free pulls
I already did 10 free pulls once lol
buoyant grotto
Rethinking myself if I should pull for Zhu Yuan
Both, both is good
buoyant grotto
60 pity, guaranteed
still dont know if i want jade or no
long tapir
buoyant grotto
long tapir
Twitter
past ibex
viscid elm
buoyant grotto
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hazy seal
Finally zzz feels fun
viscid elm
Finally zzz feels fun
You have Ellen, don't you?
buoyant grotto
hazy seal
HOLY
hazy seal
You have Ellen, don't you? <:vivismirk:482987252910391299>
The only way to have fun
past ibex
Hmm only pink hair girl looks interesting
viscid elm
Yoooo Natlan invented sunglasses
Also Iansan should be the pyro archon, right? Since she was the one featured in the region trailers
buoyant grotto
xilonen looks the best but she has darker skin color and we all know how it ends up in mhy games 
viscid elm
Oh wait nvm, I just remembered that trailer showed Lyne and Lunette for Fontaine
buoyant grotto
Also Iansan should be the pyro archon, right? Since she was the one featured in ...
mavuika
viscid elm
Kachina is the mario kart girl 
Don't tell me those balls they're holding are Genshin's version of a pokeball...
buoyant grotto
Don't tell me those balls they're holding are Genshin's version of a pokeball...
new mechanic like pneuma and 2nd shit i forgot name from fontaine i assume
viscid elm
ousia?
buoyant grotto
yeah
i mean names dont matter as mechanics themselves
lets be real
no one ever thought "oh i need to use pneuma/ousia here"
outside of forced exploration usage
girl lol
past ibex
She's chitoge 
but yui 
viscid elm
miss fortune without guns
Absolute Cinema
viscid elm
She's chitoge <:KirbyMoyai:1084613379571843192> but yui <:KirbyHearts:8751569222...
Chitoge best girl tho
viscid elm
Onodera's sister tho 
buoyant grotto
Twitter
past ibex
lest we forget
viscid elm
o7
viscid elm
past ibex
loved the grace story quest but this nekomata quest is kinda unbearable lmao
long tapir
😳
past ibex
love how eccentric she is
past ibex
citlali is cute
past ibex
that's my president
buoyant grotto
long tapir
the first minute of this video 😭
feng: "the last time you asked me if you could post something we ended up with a 75 page google doc"
loud glacier
I dont want to pull for Kinich but Sasuke and Naruto VAs.....
shrewd orbit
shrewd orbit
and mualani and chasca
slow ore
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
W
AGAIN
DOPAMINE RUSH IS HAPPENING INSIDE ME
THIS IS SO FUN
Nice
past ibex
Ain't no way
long tapir
Gg
slow ore
ANOTHER ONE
I made 30 pulls in Character Banner
1st 50/50 win
My account is cooked
Aight 20 more, I can get it in 10
shrewd orbit
Twitter
dreamy trout
Looking respectfully 👀
slow ore
Well for now
buoyant grotto
imagine being lucky
slow ore
Guys, What is going on with my account?
This is in Standard Banner
This is my 4th S Rank for today
I think I stole some Streamer's User ID when I get assigned this ID
Ohoo nice
Belobog Industries whole faction acquired
Nice
The Whole Belobog Industries Faction
shrewd orbit
what's zhu yuan gotta be so fine for
buoyant grotto
i looked at sammie screens and i dont even want to open game 😭
long tapir
buoyant grotto
i looked at sammie screens and i dont even want to open game 😭
stamina capped 😔
viscid elm
slow ore
i looked at sammie screens and i dont even want to open game 😭
I got the streamer luck without streaming
Don't know why
My account is currently cooked
viscid elm
I got the streamer luck without streaming <:hyunface:712688736802046023>
I think this is a sign that we should start a streaming career
viscid elm
I don't understand that comparison cause I don't understand HI3 or HSR lore
buoyant grotto
I don't understand that comparison cause I don't understand HI3 or HSR lore
himeko (murata) died in hi3 lore and welt went to diff universe (hsr one) to save himeko there
and welt from hsr is literally the same one as in hi3
||welt also has kids and lover he left in his og universe when he went for himeko rescue action||
long tapir
also i think og himeko had a mini crush on welt back then when she was still a student
before the mentor dynamic now
or before she died
💀
buoyant grotto
also bonus: lore wise welt is PRETTY FUCKING STRONG
long tapir
ehhh kinda not really but also yes'nt
its very weird 😭
yeah he can make black holes but only has remnants of his old herrscher powers and not full capabilites and the black hole part is purely his weapon
buoyant grotto
he could solo acheron with 1 hit of his staff
which is why acheron has so much respect to welt's power
long tapir
its mostly just his weapon not him himself but yeah ig
since herrscher cores are basically emanators condensed into "cores" which are turned into weapons
or aeons idk
something along those lines
buoyant grotto
like even at the start of the game they show his power when he stops stellaron explosion of mc after 1st boss fight in herta space station
he just touches mc with staff and everything is fine
prime robin
natlan characters are neat
i love the pink girl
buoyant grotto
he just touches mc with staff and everything is fine
and we were like 1s away from entire herta space station to explode
probably not only hss
slow ore
I think this is a sign that we should start a streaming career
My setup not good
buoyant grotto
and we were like 1s away from entire herta space station to explode
he saved hss
and decided to nuke my acc
slow ore
he saved hss
and decided to nuke my acc
Black Hole Moment
past ibex
I don't even think I have a single e1 for any of the 5 stars
oh wait i lied i have e1 gepard
buoyant grotto
i have e3 welt, e1 bronya, e2 yanqing and e1 bailu
none of limited ones have eidolons tho
past ibex
i've got e1 swan and jingliu
buoyant grotto
i wanted e1 swan but yanqing happened
long tapir
no eidolons on any limited char except acheron
past ibex
e1 swan is actually so busted lol
slow ore
i have e3 welt, e1 bronya, e2 yanqing and e1 bailu
Meanwhile me have everyone from standard banner except Yanqing
long tapir
if u get the crystal cheese curio in SU that boosts eidolon by 1
dot team becomes too op
slow ore
Also, E2 Bailu
buoyant grotto
Meanwhile me have everyone from standard banner except Yanqing
i have everyone
gepard is e0
slow ore
E2 Gepard
past ibex
now that my rm got robbed by my firefly team, was thinking of using asta on my dot team
then realized i don't even have e5 or e6 asta
slow ore
E1 or E2 Himeko
long tapir
or gui for triple dot
past ibex
yeah im using that for now until i get e6 asta
slow ore
E6 Asta good?
long tapir
the one that reduces the amt of stacks that go down per turn
buoyant grotto
E6 Asta good?
ye
past ibex
e6 is still very good
buoyant grotto
the one that reduces the amt of stacks that go down per turn
oh its e6
buoyant grotto
past ibex
oh it's just energy regeneration when you have 2 or more stacks
so yeah it's really good
but you need e6 to help
long tapir
ooh yeah i rember now
long tapir
the ER is def breakpoint
cause it allows her to have ult up perma
while being sp+
i think
past ibex
also I want the upgraded ult on her e5 too
long tapir
also I want the upgraded ult on her e5 too
past ibex
I can't believe i don't have e6 even after this long
i literally got e6 gallagher within weeks
buoyant grotto
https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-fast-sonic-the-hedgehog-fast-speed-motion-blur-g...
lvl 12 ult + s5 ddd + 4pc messenger
past ibex
das the whole idea
buoyant grotto
my asta is on 4pc break set (that was supposed to be ruan mei's )
long tapir
i used to use asta as mono fire buffer
with the lc that buffs same ele
and the penacony planar set
buoyant grotto
over 1 year and just s1
buoyant grotto
i got 18 post ops instead
past ibex
damn natasha I haven't seen her in awhile
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FWa_eq11oDM good memories
long tapir
oh my goodness gracious
past ibex
seeing this ad like
buoyant grotto
i have 25 natashas
buoyant grotto
me with adblock seeing none
buoyant grotto
my standard is ass
like everything connected to pulls on my acc
only bronya lc is good
no gep e1, no gep lc, no 2nd bronya lc, no clara dupes
long tapir
clara dupes are bad until e6
buoyant grotto
4 characters sharing same salsotto rope
long tapir
real
past ibex
i don't even have a good qua set even after this long 💀
long tapir
i have a few...
buoyant grotto
🤨
long tapir
only a few are really good but all of these are very usable
past ibex
wtf
long tapir
hmm btw whats the best planar set for hunt march
past ibex
I haven't actually seen too much discourse over march builds yet, not sure if i'm gonna build her yet
long tapir
probably cause shes a 4* so theres not much attention
yunli and the fox guy are getting the spotlight rn
past ibex
but she's march babygirl 🥹
long tapir
idk march is cute :3 so im building her
past ibex
i've just been trying to fine tune some of my characters so haven't really checked yet
i just know she's sub dps
long tapir
same reason i pulled seele in 1.4 despite not needing her, for collection purposes
and uhh maybe robin with me not having a FUA team
buoyant grotto
shes hunt just like topaz is
long tapir
ahaha
buoyant grotto
fake hunt
long tapir
harmunt
buoyant grotto
HARMony
flat galleon
hunt characters 
buoyant grotto
dr ratio: 
long tapir
oh yeah i forgot he existed 💀
even tho i have him
is it just me or does he feel super weak
😭
buoyant grotto
i need his lc
flat galleon
is it just me or does he feel super weak
all hunt characters feel pretty weak right now
past ibex
i have robin so he works good for me
i don't have topaz though...
they were nasty for putting topaz and robin on the same banner
i wanted both...
long tapir
same 😭
past ibex
you have spare eyes of the prey for her? 💀
buoyant grotto
my black swan is on sig
buoyant grotto
past ibex
that's a surefire way to like ruin your pulls for a couple of patches
what happened to me after jingliu
ooh wait i have two extra eyes of the prey huge
buoyant grotto
queen
flat galleon
buoyant grotto
138% ehr too
buoyant grotto
i just realized my bs has 0 crit rolls
past ibex
bro what do I do with my 2 random welt lcs 😭
past ibex
like I don't even use my welt, I don't know when I can even use him
buoyant grotto
same
past ibex
so his lcs are like
only good alternatives
but i have so many nihility lcs that are better
pain
buoyant grotto
speaking of nihlity lcs
flat galleon
I still need bronya lc, standard not being nice to me
buoyant grotto
i feel so bad for new players who want sw
and dont have event lc
💀
enjoy pulling e1
flat galleon
festering desire 2.0
buoyant grotto
mhy did good job making time locked event lc so broken its even better than sw sig if shes not e2+
sometimes i wish i had 2
and when fox guy will come i will wish i had 3
past ibex
everytime i check the leaks jiaoqiu is getting nerfs
buoyant grotto
last time he got scaling nerfs but became able to apply dots
so he has lower personal dmg but works in more teams than just acheron
viscid elm
My setup not good <:hyunface:712688736802046023>
Same 
viscid elm
I just really like her
And she's the IRS
hazy seal
Black Swan pog
past ibex
did some relic spring cleaning lol
hazy seal
Oh my
long tapir
holy
past ibex
this is what happens when you don't lock stuff and let it stockpile since the start of the game
lesson learned phew
guess it's time to craft some stuff for my bronya
long tapir
whew nice piece
past ibex
anby beloved
flat galleon
finally a better rope lfg
long tapir
hold up i just watched a vid and you can use asta instead of rm for a firefly team if youre on a budget
hmm interesting comments
past ibex
oh yeah i saw this video the other day
hazy seal
There's no hesitation huh
buoyant grotto
i have 2 4* swords and my only 4* broadsword was def% one
i have sword set for standard banner tho
past ibex
man I might just farm two setups for my bronya for fast and slow
cause of jingliu and acheron
flat galleon
just stick to using bronya in one team so you don't have to farm more
she don't really work as much with acheron unless it's a worst case scenario (no other units left to use)
past ibex
Why not?
buoyant grotto
bubba dont u have sparkle?
past ibex
I do
buoyant grotto
why use bronya with acheron then
long tapir
ye bronya is good sparkle is just better cause of her sp gen ult
past ibex
Not like I need the skill points anyways my pela doesn't skill most of the time
Sustain unit also doesn't skill
And the 100% aa is just better
buoyant grotto
should i max her out?
past ibex
If you don't have anything to farm for at the moment then why not
long tapir
probably auto cause increases chance of extra arcana stack
buoyant grotto
yeah thats why i leveled it to 5 asap
past ibex
Also in the case that I do need sparkle I still need to farm the exact same relics for fast bronya
flat galleon
What's wrong with bronya
Bronya doesn't really contribute to adding stacks for acheron. She can push her action forward, if you have signature lc for acheron maybeeee (as she'd get two stacks).
buoyant grotto
looking at bs auto level increase makes herta talent even funnier
