#General Chat

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celest haven
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Now all i'm waiting on is the VFX workers strike

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And the world will be at peace

glass knot
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In other random Starfield news you can just remove your spacesuit on the moon or apparently any other planet

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And you'll be chillin

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Game doesn't care

glass knot
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Or Joseph Anderson somehow bugged it cause after exiting the room he got in it started asking for the suit/equipment

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Maybe it's because he was in combat

stable stratus
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Disney VFX artists are currently unionized

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so hopefully things can change

glass knot
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Game keeps the airlock flag on if you fast travel out of a pressurized/breathable environment to your ship

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As long as you fast travel from your ship navigation thing it seems like the flag doesn't reset at all until you get to a different airlock

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Weird

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neon scroll
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Problem there is, most video games don't require any actors outside of maybe VAs and those still don't fall under the territory of that union

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Really don't see how this can have a noticeable impact like it has in the movie industry

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Like, oh no, Ubisoft can't use actor X who always plays villain roles for their next Farcry, the horror vivikek

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Plus the gaming industry is way less centralized in the US as well

glass knot
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mocap actors fall under the sag aftra umbrella iirc

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voice actors also count

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but it's not like the videogame industry hasn't been ditching va's and other actors simply because they're part of an union anyways

neon scroll
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I know for a fact anime VAs don't count, I'd assume game VAs are closer to that than movies

glass knot
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that'd still depend if they're under this union but they do cover VAs in general i think

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However as mentioned there's been studios tactically changing VAs the moment the one they used before becomes part of an union so

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hard to say how this will actually affect the industry

fair elbow
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This is the stupidest fcking thing I've seen in my life

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"Hey, if we heat up the console high enough. It'll generate enough thermal energy to let us travel the stars. Just like in Starfield!"

slate thorn
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I don't see how that would heat up the console at all?

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Like, it doesn't cover any place that is important for heat dissipation

minor bolt
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it probably will a little bit since the case will always have a bit of heat transfer, but the core of the heat output is the top so it’ll be fine

slate thorn
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It probably has as much impact as putting a case on your phone :P

dry gale
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it's a good console wrap tho... can be easily fitted

glass knot
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buy the Starfield™ blankie to put around your xbox with the Starfield™ wrap

slate thorn
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And put it on your starfield table plugged into your starfield tv

glass knot
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And play the game with your official Starfield themed Xbox controller

slate thorn
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In your starfield onesie

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In Todd Howard's house

dry gale
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aiyoo

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finally modders fixed the green tone in Starfield

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good mod

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L Team Blue GPU users

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their GPUs can't even run the game

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meanwhile my potato 1650 runs it at 35 fps

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LMFAOOO

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U can do that too?

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RIP my blud's hometown, it's done and dusted now

dry gale
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Random NPCs in Starfield be like:

pearl cobalt
dry gale
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tf are these faces

pearl cobalt
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👀

dry gale
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I got shocked when Vasco called me Sammie

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turns out this is the thing

minor bolt
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my name isnt there 😔

fair elbow
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Can you still breathe? Yes. The question is, are you feeling hotter than if you didn't wear the coat?

random field
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they have every variation of my actual first name including my nickname ive gone by my whole life

dry gale
random field
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but not the name i like to use in every game ever 😔

fair elbow
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Maybe console players can get to the same level of customization as PC players some day. Someday. 😔

dry gale
dry gale
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Bro, Space Naan

dry gale
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Never have I ever seen a game this much hyped that organizations started to make specific exclusive stuff for Starfield

scarlet cape
minor bolt
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orgasmo

slate thorn
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That's my superhero name

fair elbow
dry gale
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Bethesda I'm actually shocked you are using swear words in game, oh wait the game is made for 17+

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Mature content

smoky imp
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Fuckface let's fucking go

neon scroll
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So this seems to be a somewhat representative early game experience perspective

https://fxtwitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/1698004629596840236?t=wTi8KmBVIj_J6gWijKkRgw&s=19

Welp, 6 hrs into Starfield & Im gonna be honest, Im kinda disappointed atm. Its Loadenfield & Restrictive. When you make a space exploration game you expect certain things in 2023, fair or not. Bethesda themselves call it "Unparalleled". Uhm, Bra, No. Its VERY Paralleled IMO 🤨🤷‍♂️

smoky imp
placid otter
neon scroll
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Lmao

minor bolt
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people kinda dismissing it as "its a bethesda game what did you expect"

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which is silly like, are we supposed to be rewarding bethesda for being stuck in 2013?

pearl cobalt
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it really is Fallout in space with tweaks

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"space exploration" is just fast travel everywhere

neon scroll
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We just don't get it, this is hyper realism. It will take literal months and years of space travel until any solar object gets bigger in the viewscreen

placid otter
minor bolt
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at least ff16 wasnt marketed as open world

neon scroll
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Or exploration

pearl cobalt
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if only Chris Roberts didn't go the way of hunting for money whales...

jovial wolf
pearl cobalt
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in any case, waiting to see what comes out of Tokyo Game Show on when to get a next gen console.

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Sep 21-24

currently looking forward to more Dragon's Dogma 2 and the eventual Monster Hunter announcement. not sure what else to expect

minor bolt
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if you have a decent pc then there isnt really much incentive to get an xbox

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so youre basically just looking at a ps5 or switch 2

placid otter
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ff7rebirth should be there surely

placid otter
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there are also bloodborne remaster rumours going around now for 2025

minor bolt
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bb remaster goes around every time theres a new show

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its never happening

pearl cobalt
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ps5 is pretty much up there, just whether to get it in the holiday season or wait to see what they have to offer with the eventual SKU update (whenever that is)

minor bolt
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we might see elden ring dlc now that i think about it

pearl cobalt
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true

minor bolt
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they announced that in what, feb?

pearl cobalt
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TGS is ideal to show it

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wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Japanese devs have been holding out as this is prob the first big TGS after covid lockdown where they can gather publicly to release the next big thing to a crowd

fair elbow
pearl cobalt
fair elbow
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I haven't gotten that far into NMS

fair elbow
placid otter
fair elbow
minor bolt
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oh that stream is still going

placid otter
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yeah, she left it on while she was asleep

minor bolt
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you linked her vod earlier and i thought that was the end of it

placid otter
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yeah, vod was better for what i was trying to say

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but now she right there

glass knot
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U know the thing that bothers me the most about starfield

dry gale
glass knot
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When you talk to npcs

jovial wolf
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the title says flying towards a planet but she's going towards pluto, what a scam

glass knot
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And it goes to a different npc

placid otter
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LOL

glass knot
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It's so jarring lol

minor bolt
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LMAO

placid otter
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literally flew right through it

smoky imp
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Hey pluto is still a planet don't bully it

jovial wolf
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pluto is a dog

glass knot
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cute small rock

smoky imp
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Just a dwarf planet

smoky imp
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No it's the God of the Underworld

minor bolt
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she spent 7 hours boosting towards it just to reach 0 meters and it disappears

glass knot
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Unparalleled exploration

dry gale
glass knot
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What did you expect! It's a bethesda game!!!!!!!

dry gale
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RPG game btw

minor bolt
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planets are actually just npcs with planet hats

smoky imp
dry gale
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people really said u wud be disappointed if u see this game as a space simulation... instead of a Space RPG

glass knot
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what if i wanna roleplay as an explorer

fair elbow
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Play Space Engineers or KSP 1 (and slap on interstellar galaxies m0d)

glass knot
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best space exploration is still outer wilds
(not to be confused with outer worlds)

celest haven
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That's sick

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I thought she fully dropped content creation after she was hired on board Santa Monica as a writer

placid otter
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never watched her, just ussualy see her tweets being relative to my twitter feed. thats how i find these

dry gale
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btw I still like playing this game for some reason

placid otter
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iguess spyro still selling today

fair elbow
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Spyro and Medievil the goats

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I miss my PS1

pearl cobalt
glass knot
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true

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one of those games you can only play once

dry gale
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I was just searching through save game location for gamepass Starfield and I finally found out

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C:\Users[Your Username]\AppData\Local\Packages\BethesdaSoftworks.ProjectGold_3275kfvn8vcwc\SystemAppData\wgs\000901F57BEB933D_0000000000000000000000007BF72399

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so

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Starfield's Project Name is ProjectGold

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GOLD

smoky imp
neon scroll
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Damn

fair elbow
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Guys with this face has a 100% chance of disappointing you

neon scroll
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Now,now. He'll keep you hyped for years first.

scarlet cape
fair elbow
placid otter
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full video subbed

minor bolt
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nice

dry gale
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Starfield is fun ngl

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I am enjoying it (using crack because can't afford premium edition)

stable stratus
stray blade
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Still no persona 1 school days Deadge

smoky imp
slate thorn
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Can't wait for the game to come out in 2094 after being passed down to 107 different developers

smoky imp
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Maybe it will have the Duke Nukem effect

neon scroll
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That game wasn't good when it finally came out, trust me

dry gale
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Art

minor bolt
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have to use a seedbox to get any respectable speed from torrents nowadays 😔

neon scroll
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Torrents viviwtf

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You wouldn't... p-pirate?

minor bolt
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i would download a car if i could

fair elbow
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How else am I gonna test out if my potato pc can handle games these days?

smoky imp
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demos hyunfacroll

placid otter
# fair elbow How else am I gonna test out if my potato pc can handle games these days?

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neon scroll
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What's the tl;dw on that

fair elbow
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I have 1070 but newer games still chug

placid otter
fair elbow
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Probably my 8GB ram or maybe cause my PC is just old af at 5 years old or something

placid otter
placid otter
fair elbow
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My laptop still has an extra ram slot

minor bolt
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no 3070 test wtf

fair elbow
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Could probably slap another 8gb in there

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But I don't want to buy a new RAM for a laptop that'll probably kick the bucket in a year or so KEK

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The speakers already gave out

placid otter
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well, ram can always re-used

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i still got 2 different old sets stored

minor bolt
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so basically a 3070 probably gets 60fps avg on high at 1080p without upscaling

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thats so fucking bad

fair elbow
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Not if it's not using the same pins as the laptop I'll replace with

placid otter
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true

fair elbow
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I think my current laptop uses 2400

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Uhhh... or whatever this thing uses

placid otter
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its been so long i forgot what the text meant

fair elbow
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1Rx8 is probably the pins and 2400T is probably the voltage thingy or whatever

smoky imp
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UH NO

placid otter
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2400 is the speed

fair elbow
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Oh

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Well yeah, thing's pretty old and seems like a waste to upgrade if its gonna die out on me soon anyways

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Surprised the screen hasn't experienced any burning or even any dead pixels yet

placid otter
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after a quick search i remember the pin count is ussualy written in very small at the end

smoky imp
placid otter
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might not be noted down in all 4 corners, but ussualy was there yeah

fair elbow
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It's an Acer Predator, really love it. Might get the same for my replacement

placid otter
minor bolt
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ok this one has more gpus

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1080p ultra on a 3070 gets 30fps

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actually abysmal

neon scroll
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I'm sure modders will fix it soon vivikek

placid otter
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(they already have)

neon scroll
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tfw modders can do that in less than a week

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While Bethesda...

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idk tbh

placid otter
neon scroll
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Imagine you're just a normie who plays vanilla games like the majority of people, really

placid otter
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only things ive ever modded is minecraft and terraria. and even then it is after atleast 200 hours

neon scroll
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I usually only mod after a full playthrough aka finishing the game

warm pumice
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But honestly, who cares,if people want to mod on day 1 then f it

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They payed for it,they can play it how they want 🫨

placid otter
smoky imp
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yay ig

placid otter
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was to be expected with how well it did

slate thorn
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I still actually have to finish that game but other stuff came in between. Such as life, multiplayer games with friends and baldur's gate chuukek

solid wing
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started playing icewind dale time to read a guide

fallow vessel
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so we can already look forward to the drama

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can't wait

slate thorn
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oop, ordered pokemon violet runaway

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I can always sell it again if I don't have fun with it :v

smoky imp
placid otter
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TGS livestream schedule

pearl cobalt
slate thorn
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Atlus Pog

placid otter
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oh man, runescape 3 has officialy added battle passes now

stable stratus
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Square Enix

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...hmmmmm

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I wonder if they will tease KH4

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but considering all that bass, I don't think it's ready yet

smoky imp
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Reverse 1999 zoomeyes

dry gale
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God of War Director rated Starfield 9/10

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GTA 6 is rumoured to cost $150 at release

rustic peak
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im rumored to be the next us president

valid lava
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people can invent literally any rumor they want bout that game and some people will take them seriously

scarlet cape
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maybe there'll be a 150 bundle that comes with some in-game currency for their totally new and different online mode

dry gale
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me just said rumoured

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no confirmation yet

rustic peak
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yea but the point is

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whats the rumor

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is it a tweet with 1 like

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or something from a source with any credibility

fair elbow
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GTA 6 will cost $150 because it'll release in a year where inflation has skyrocketed and what was worth $60 is now worth $150

scarlet cape
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its for the ps6 rerelease

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it will come with a new camera angle

dry gale
valid lava
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twitter users the most reliable source for gaming news

fleet wave
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literally just speculation

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not worth reporting on

minor bolt
halcyon moss
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first thing I thought of when I saw gowon’s concept photos today

placid otter
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lol

smoky imp
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Gowonheart

fallow vessel
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kinda fits the Loona lore as well

dry gale
smoky imp
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150 my ass

dry gale
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Guys it takes 7 years to travel from Earth to Saturn

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so it's gonna take 7 days in-game

rustic peak
# dry gale lol

may i introduce you to news sites with ai generated content?

dry gale
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time to write my own story

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/j

smoky imp
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Finally

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Starfield Fanfic

dry gale
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kekw

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can't have shit on gamepass

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If only gamepass allowed to download from Steam

smoky imp
scarlet cape
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😳

fallow vessel
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"Treat yourself to 19-inches of Venom and more" reminds me of a certain site that starts with "bad"

dry gale
smoky imp
dry gale
dry gale
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Someone made a paid DRM mod so someone cracked it

neon scroll
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... paid mods can go fuck off, lol

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Not that I disagree on the notion that someone should pay for modders fixing shitty Bethesda games, but that someone should be Bethesda, not users

glass knot
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I think it's fine to pay for it depending on the mod
But afaik most modders just don't charge for it and rely on donations instead

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or like, have them on patreon etc

rustic peak
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probably cause charging for it isnt exactly legal

glass knot
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yea

slate thorn
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Mxr started making starfield videos now chuukek

placid otter
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happens starting from 4:25~~

slate thorn
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Put shadowheart in a box and then ship her to me? RaidenPlead

neon scroll
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DMs watching this clip going YooHeadache

glass knot
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You don't need Bethesda's consent to do any mods

dry gale
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I won't pay for a mod with DRM when the game doesn't even have DRM

dry gale
glass knot
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You also don't need their consent to charge for it

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Since you're doing it outside the game

dry gale
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Anyway I don't want this community to make paid mods to fix a game

glass knot
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Publishers obviously don't like people charging for these tho, unless they do it through systems ingame so they get a cut :v

neon scroll
# glass knot You also don't need their consent to charge for it

This is just false. You're using someone else's copyrighted property to make and sell something, you're not creating something entirely new out of thin air that would be your own intellectual property to sell.
Unless the modder got a license to sell his mod it's illegal (though Bethesda may of course choose to ignore it)
And on top of all that Bethesda in particular have long since explicitely forbidden paid mods for their games ever since the whole Creation Club debacle back in the day.

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Mods in general are already only technically legal if and when the publisher allows them and only to the extent they allow them as well.

glass knot
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Yeah it is illegal
But modders still paywall their mods under services like patreon and that's functionally the same thing as charging for it 🤷🏻‍♂️ You don't need to ask for the company to do that and no modder does lol
Companies mostly just turn a blind eye for it unless it's something that really catches their eye for whatever reason
I'm not saying it wouldn't be illegal, just that literally no one asks for the company's consent
Idk how it works for Bethesda specifically with their mod support and how they implement that for their games tho

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If they have some way of publishing and accessing those in-game then it'd need their approval

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Otherwise modders will mostly just do whatever

dry gale
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Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam

scarlet cape
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they're really good at business

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they didn't even have to pay anyone to remove their own shitty drm from the old release versions

neon scroll
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They truly are professionals doing professional things professionally

dry gale
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A basketball game is 161 GB? Bro tf we are living in today?

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It's even larger than Starfield

neon scroll
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That premium season pass takes up a lot of space

glass knot
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fucken pronouns

dry gale
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Lmao dude was angry at pronouns

glass knot
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So turns out that modder who was charging for the DLSS3 Starfield mod was literally just holding it behind patreon as most modders do vivikek the DRM was just needing to authenticate the patreon sub
And their DLSS2 mod has always been free

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Amazing

fair elbow
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It's not free if its behind Patreon subscription

glass knot
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Read again

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Their dlss2 mod has always been free
the dlss3 one is what was on patreon

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Modders putting stuff on patreon or other similar services is pretty standard and i don't think it's a big deal

dry gale
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mm yes, Mostly Positive reviews... Expect what's there instead of what's not there

neon scroll
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The tl;dr at this point is, if you like the Bethesda game formula with little to no changes other than the space reskin and you don't mind slogging through roughly 12 hrs until the game "gets good" it's a game for you.

jovial wolf
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Pretty much

neon scroll
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And man, I hate people who defend the "you only have to play X hours until it gets good" formula

fair elbow
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But can I climb mountains with horses?

neon scroll
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Doubt it

fair elbow
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Starfield fake Bethesda game 0/10

dry gale
neon scroll
dry gale
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697 mods already, imagine if they release it with modding creation engine toolkit or something... blah blah

jovial wolf
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Would not change much, because those kind of mods you need the toolkit for take time

dry gale
cinder rivet
celest haven
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Man i hated the trend of celebrity guest cameos voicing characters in videogames

rose thistle
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Been really enjoying Starfield a lot

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think my favorite thing so far is to steal a ship or claim one in a dogfight then sell it for profit

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seen people complain about lifeless planets but the lifeless ones I've come across are just moons of others

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honestly just pour your skill points into social to boost up your crew size. You have to actually earn the skill level up which is nice.

valid lava
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yeah its actually really fun
been having a blast

rose thistle
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there's also some random quests/encounters on most planets even ones with seemingly no life

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but man the outpost building and upgrading is a lot of work/resources

dry gale
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Halofield

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So if your inventory's mass size is beyond the inventory's limit in Starfield, whenever you normally run you will consume Oxygen

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NGL I consumed both O2 and CO2 while sprinting and jumping

rose thistle
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If you move at half speed you don't consume anything

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I hauled 1500 mass around back to my ship without running out of O2

placid otter
scarlet cape
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oh cool nitaras back
oh no it's megan fox

placid otter
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anyone else dced on steam?

fair elbow
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Out goes Diablo's "Don't you guys have phones?", in comes "Don't you guys have supercomputers?"

neon scroll
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"We just want to push hardware sales" is definitely a position to take

placid otter
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not even optimized for series x, only S

neon scroll
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I'll be real with you, everything I hear and see just makes me wanna finally go and play NMS instead of Starfield

fair elbow
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Starfield is definitely the better game

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But the better exploration experience is NMS

rose thistle
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NMS has also had years of updates

neon scroll
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NMS also had maybe 1/10000th of Starfield's budget and manpower behind it if you wanna go down that route and compare the "at launch" experience

scarlet cape
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nms is nice to fly around in yeah

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but the only similarity it has to starfield is being in space

fair elbow
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KSP better

neon scroll
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KSP is for nerds

fair elbow
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KSP is easy to learn, it's not rocket science

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Oh wait, it is

neon scroll
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I mean

fair elbow
scarlet cape
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idk banjo kazooie kinda did it better

fair elbow
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Just master this and you'll master KSP in no time

fleet wave
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elementary, really

fallow vessel
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or you can just throw stuff at the wall for weeks until something sticks

glass knot
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just learn astrodynamics

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how hard could it be

dry gale
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everyone trying to become astro scientist here but without going to NASA

neon scroll
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Most people in here lack the most important qualifications for NASA, being American and having good connections

rose thistle
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help can do it but chooses not too

neon scroll
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Help is just gonna join a private space mission to Mars. He'll pilot Elon's biggest achievement.

rose thistle
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get real he's going to Alpha Centauri

neon scroll
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Idk man, I believe that's Bezos penis rocket territory

stable stratus
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The first world record that implement TAS-only strat "4-2 Lightning", saving the final framerules needed to match Tool Assisted Speedrun

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In order to beat this world record:

All levels up to 8-4 have to be match with TAS time
It needs 22 frames off (around -0.3 seconds) or less on 8-4

glass knot
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Jesus christ

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Wild

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dry gale
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Interviewer: why you didn't optimise?
Todd Howard: Why are you poor?

slate thorn
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lmao

dry gale
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Stupid interviewer forgot to ask when DLSS3 and FSR3 is coming to the game

slate thorn
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Wdym you don't have an rtx 4090?

dry gale
slate thorn
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More like everyone not a millionaire :P

dry gale
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Seriously tho, this game needs optimisation instead of excuses

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I am playing in a blurry screen lol

slate thorn
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Yeah, for something that looks like the most average "next gen" game the requirements for running it are pretty crazy

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Like, it looks good. But not any more special than other new games out there really

dry gale
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Imagine Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora system requirements

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Armoured Core VI is the perfectly optimised game

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Apparently Starfield creatures can board your ship and stay on after you take off into space. Reddit user AQTBGL_DaddyIssues was wondering why they couldn’t fast travel until they realized an Ankylosaurus boarded their ship. #Starfield

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dry gale
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What's wrong with blud? Bro is comparing two different games and putting down one over another

slate thorn
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Who's blud?

slate thorn
smoky imp
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Guess it was good

slate thorn
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this 🤏 close to crying at the end fr fr

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Now time for a 2nd playthrough of 115 hours :^)

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minor bolt
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flappy bird vibes

dusty imp
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not really

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flappy bird wasnt plagued by ip lawsuits and nfts

dry gale
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u can convert DLSS to FSR?

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tf is this?

dry gale
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Starfield successfully ruined someone's relationship today

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Real life bug from Bethesda

dry gale
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Halo Sniper Veteran plays Starfield

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The Jimquisition

Starfield Released: September 6th, 2023 Developer: Bethesda Publisher: Bethesda Softworks Systems: PC, Xbox Series S/X (reviewed) What does it say about a studio when the parent company proudly boasts that its latest software has fewer bugs than said studio's usual output? How much more damning can faint praise get when the discussion of a game’...

dry gale
smoky imp
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Pretty sure he was crying over the pronounces too

rustic peak
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That and being rejected by bethesda for a sponsorship/early access

glass knot
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he does be transphobic

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maybe just don't be a bigot and brands won't refuse to work with you

neon scroll
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But then you'd have to stop being a bigot

scarlet cape
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he's just got traditional values

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like going to church on sundays and cheating on your wife

glass knot
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true

dry gale
neon scroll
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It's one of the oldest human traditions, really.

stable stratus
neon scroll
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I guess in a way it makes sense. Most of the kids who spent the past few years around the worst collection of groomers out of any gaming community ever will be 17+ by then. Just keep them hooked with the logical next step.

slate thorn
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Gotta grow with your community :^)

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dry gale
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This is why I believe you should play games before commenting on them.

@davidscottjaffe totally straight faced asks a dude who claims he played #starfield if he “burned the bodies” or not in the intro of the game which never happened.
This is my favourite moment of the week 😂😂😂🏆

↘️ Quoting JayRock (@JAAY_ROCK_)

PlayStation Fanboy Gets Expos...

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PS fanboy got exposed

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He swear to God literally

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L M A O

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Damn this game has so much haters

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fair elbow
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Surely this won't be used for nefarious activities, not at all!

dry gale
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L ship W battle

pearl cobalt
smoky imp
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I'll see you around peace

dry gale
pearl cobalt
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Starfield on PC delivers the best way to play the game, assuming your hardware is capable enough - but it's clear that there's a lot of issues that Bethesda needs to address. In this PC tech review, Alex delivers optimised settings and console-equivalent settings, and also takes a look at the DLSS mod quality vs AMD's bespoke FSR 2 integration. ...

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tldr: not optimized for Intel/Nvidia, AMD needs newer drivers

looks at XBox specs
ah, I see

bold depot
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topson just signed with tundra

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jesus

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he got a free ticket to ti12

dry gale
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Starfield really needs some optimization updates

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coz wtf I am getting lower than 30 fps in New Atlantis

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what a heavy loaded city dam

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in other places I get 45-60 fps but New Atlantis

valid lava
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because everything else is empty

neon scroll
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Kek

valid lava
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empty as in not everything is a massive city
game is still a lot of fun
only been playing that recently

celest haven
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Just a couple more days...

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I've been waiting ages for this game

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Hopefully they let us preload considering it'll defintiely be another 100 GB again

placid otter
neon scroll
placid otter
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i dont mind qte events. doubt they are there outside of story

neon scroll
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I was happy when those died out for the most part tbh

placid otter
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eh, yakuza zero still has them

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they still used, just iguess nowhere near as much

neon scroll
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Hence "for the most part"

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FF16 had some as well, but the window for hitting those was so wide that at least they weren't annoying

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That's basically my issue with them though, QTEs usually happen in sequences where I wanna be engrossed in the sequence itself and not focus on shitty button prompts

placid otter
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ff16 was way too forgiving and easy though. like everything looked amazing. their the best cinematic fights, but way too easy

neon scroll
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That's a different point entirely

placid otter
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my only problem with qte really is when they change the required button for the same or similar attack

neon scroll
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It's just one of those mechanics that devs enter into games when they have no idea how to make it happen smoothly

placid otter
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reminds me gowr had it aswel and i rlly dont mind them. just got to be not too frequent

celest haven
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Little did i know that they'd occasionally throw in literal split-second QTEs in there while i was socially distancing with my controller

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That shit gave me trust issues

neon scroll
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Yep

slate thorn
jovial wolf
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"Shadowheart & Corinna the Squirrel explore BG3 Character Creation" what a coop

valid lava
warm pumice
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@dry gale since you mention about Fsr and all that other stuff and we pretty much have the same spec laptop, you recommend the Starfield Upscaler mod? replacing FSR2 with DLSS or XeSS

minor bolt
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if you have an nvidia gpu that can run it, dlss will always be better than fsr

valid lava
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i thought dlss was only for rtx cards

neon scroll
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if you have an nvidia gpu that can run it

dry gale
warm pumice
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I just remembered we have the same gpu

warm pumice
dry gale
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I have MUX Switch but yours don't

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So my display is connected to Nvidia GPU most of the time and my igpu is off

warm pumice
placid otter
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huge shock yerimmm

smoky imp
pearl cobalt
scarlet cape
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wew can't wait to see all the epic gamers get upset that [company] made a time appropriate pop culture reference

celest haven
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I genuinely was not expecting them to do anything

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fleet wave
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lol what the fuck

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installation fee

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that indeed is crazy

dusty imp
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apparently it wont apply to charity bundles

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not sure how they plan on doing that

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also screw modders i guess

slate thorn
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It's only if your game earns you 200k per year, so if it's free then...

stable stratus
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yep

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gacha games that use unity would be in danger

neon scroll
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Eh

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Gacha games make enough money

stable stratus
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i'll except that lol

slate thorn
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Like, pro and enterprise are 1M$ per year

fresh bridge
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not for xbox

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1 tb for xbox is 150

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I got xbox game pass ultimate the other so been playing a lot of games im gonna try out starfield soon

placid otter
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lol what

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lol u get feed for unity if u re-install it. meaning u pay twice. same with different devices too.

slate thorn
placid otter
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HUH???

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sims5 free?

minor bolt
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the first 50% of the game will be free

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then the last 50% will be via dlc and mtx

placid otter
dry gale
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Check your cooling systems before firing up your PCs in Cyberpunk

placid otter
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atleast it is not our gpus

dry gale
placid otter
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nah their just afraid after the last 3 years

slate thorn
placid otter
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Sul Sul Simmers!

Welcome to the third episode of Behind The Sims, our community series that covers the latest updates, sneak peeks and deep dives into game development, including the latest on Project Rene, new content for The Sims Mobile, The Sims Freeplay, & The Sims 4.

The Sims™ team is committed to keeping you in the loop on all that’s ha...

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also another sims 4 dlc

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even official sims merch

glass knot
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Sims 5 base being free just means they'll push even more monetization on it

placid otter
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just need base sims4 with multiplayer added and ill be satisfied

dry gale
rustic peak
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Did somebody call for a competition for dumbest tech company decision making of the year or what is going on

dry gale
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Mihoyo needs to pay a lot of money now

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Ohh, Rhythm games as well

rustic peak
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Its not retroactive

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Which might be the best part about this

neon scroll
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Kek

fair elbow
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Sims 4 and its DLC have always been free for me

pearl cobalt
fair elbow
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Unreal Engine stocks about to shoot up, time to invest

smoky imp
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Multiple developers decided to remove their games

fair elbow
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Capitalism strikes again

dusty imp
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do something incredibly bad so that when you backpedal people wont realise its still worse than before

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/ theres some other atrocious change that got ignored

smoky imp
glass knot
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Oh well

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See

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How will this affect Hollow Knight Silksong.

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Time to rebuild the game in a different engine

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Pack it up

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This really is one of the decisions ever

smoky imp
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Let's see how long this will go on

glass knot
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Even if it doesn't affect most people using the engine to develop games, it'll have a great impact on how people see the engine and devs will 100% drop it if this keeps up

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As they're already threatening to do lol

smoky imp
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I could install and uninstall multiple games so bad

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And they say they have something to detect it

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My ass

glass knot
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No one likes to be hit with a fee you have no way of having proper knowledge about because how it's locked behind a proprietary secret shhhh technology

smoky imp
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Their ass gets beat in the qrts in multiple languages rip

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Yep

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Time for everyone to go to Godot and rpg maker lol

scarlet cape
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"We looked for ways to lessen the impact on developers" did they forget to consider just not making up more bullshit fees

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that seems like a really good way to lessen the impact

glass knot
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I don't doubt they have found ways of detecting if something has been tampered with tbh but like i wouldn't put my hand on the fire

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If it makes developers uncertain they just won't use the engine

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That's about it

smoky imp
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This is why we don't let an EA CEO take over a company

scarlet cape
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"we believe it gives an accurate determination of the number of times the runtime is distributed for a given project."

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just trust me bro

smoky imp
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Time to go back to Godot and rpg maker ig

scarlet cape
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oh nah they got on geoff's bad side

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its over for unity

slate thorn
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Back to flash we go

smoky imp
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Right after the CEO sold over 2000 shares huh

glass knot
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curious

smoky imp
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No way they're gonna pull this shit with gacha games

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Okay gachas are most likely one of the reasons why they do that but still

scarlet cape
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silver lining: this might push hoyo into letting us delete old event/cutscene resources without reinstalling

smoky imp
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If only

dusty imp
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by this do they mean games that have already been released wont be affected?

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or that downloads before nect year wont be charged, but new ones will

scarlet cape
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installs won't be counted before jan 1 but any game using unity will be at their mercy

smoky imp
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Time to switch to Unreal Engine

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I wanted to learn how to use that anyway

glass knot
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It won't retroactively count people who downloaded it before Jan 1st

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But onwards it will

slate thorn
smoky imp
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Pls tell me Deltarune wasn't done in Unity

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GameMaker Studio 2 wooooo

neon scroll
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The real question is, will sites like Steam just cooperate with Unity, especially after they gave Gamepass, the biggest direct competitor a blank check

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They could just tell Unity to fuck off and close off aggregate data on all unity games pretty easily

fair elbow
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Unity: "We'll give you a good percentage of the profits"
Steam: "Understandable, have a nice day"

rustic peak
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unity is the build tool, they dont need to rely on steam data

neon scroll
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They do if they want the numbers they need for the "per install" bs

rustic peak
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no they dont

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theyre the last step in the build process, they can just insert a bit of code

neon scroll
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Cause you can bet your ass devs will need about 5 minutes to deactivate any shitty tracking code that gives that data to Unity

rustic peak
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sounds like a great way to break license terms and get sued

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unofficially, yea, there probably will be a way to remove the tracking, but then consumers would need to go out of their way to install that version of the game instead of the one on steam or whatever

neon scroll
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That's the thing, consumers need to be asked for their consent for any such tracking in the first place

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At least in Europe anyway

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So if devs removed it and Unity would try a legal challenge in Europe... that'd be kinda shooting themselves in the foot

rustic peak
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i admire your confidence in this

neon scroll
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I mean, realistically longterm devs will just say fuck you Unity and move elsewhere

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We're just talking short term here

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I sorta wanna see Hoyo remove the tracking and see what unity tries to do about that one, lol

rustic peak
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keep in mind it doesnt apply to all subscription plans

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and you also need a certain revenue threshhold so completely free games arent affected either

neon scroll
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I dare say Hoyo meet those requirements

smoky imp
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they do

rustic peak
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obviously, but do we know their subscription plan?

neon scroll
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Oh, Pokemon Go is unity as well, lmao

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There will 100% be lawsuits preventing this from going into effect for quite some time

smoky imp
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hell nah nintendo will go mad

fair elbow
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Nobody beats Nintendo at their own game

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Unreal Engine better anyway

neon scroll
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Also the dumping shares before this announcement bit might very well be very illegal

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But that of course "only" affects the CEO vivikek

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Oh right, Hearthstone is also Unity, so I guess Blizzard/Activision/Microsoft lawyers will be busy as well

fair elbow
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I pray more game devs move to a better optimized game engine

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Unity is good and all but it quickly peaks at what it can do very quickly and the game starts chugging

celest haven
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Oh my god

smoky imp
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I love it

placid otter
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noo i wanted to play it at some point PepeHands

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smaller devs getting hurt bigtime. even pirate installs will hurt them even more

stable stratus
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New Direct this soon

smoky imp
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Hope this will bite their ass back

stable stratus
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now where's previous remakes

smoky imp
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I want 7

scarlet cape
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funny because unity would have more to gain from them than most other devs ofc

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this is a much bigger issue for western indie devs than anyone else

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placid otter
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it is per install not purchase, so idk how that solved anything

neon scroll
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They stated somewhere that free games ate exempt

placid otter
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FOV and DLSS coming nice

scarlet cape
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they'd have to add in shitty monetisation to account for losses

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regardless of going f2p or not

placid otter
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game prices with unity will have to increase aswel

rustic peak
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not really

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completely free games wont have to care and 20cts isnt much when you sell it, might make the 1-15$ games very slightly more expensive

placid otter
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seen multiple studios tweet that they would owe unity more than 300k~

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20 cents can also quickly add up for those with high replayability.

dry gale
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2 GB Starfield update

rustic peak
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they already backpedaled on the "multiple installs on the same machine will count as unique installs" thing

dry gale
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Ohh wait nvm

rustic peak
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the whole idea is obviously very poorly thought out and probably inherently very dumb, but its still gonna end up at 20ct per sale, make it 50 if you want (with the lowest subscriper tiers)

dusty imp
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its just encouraging people to get the subscription/ include their awful services in your game

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or else

placid otter
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they really need to be more clear with things...

dusty imp
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best bet is to wait and see if regulatory bodies get upset at this

neon scroll
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It's really more the inevitable lawsuits

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regulatory bodies are notoriously slow

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placid otter
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u mean like mobile games one?

glass knot
# rustic peak unity is the build tool, they dont need to rely on steam data

Yeah at least the way they explained it, it seems like it's embedded on the runtime packages?
That's required to even run the games at all so there's really no (legal) way around it for the devs
I'm sure someone will eventually reverse engineer how they do that if they actually don't walk this back, but I doubt Steam can just "close off all aggregate data"
Not only devs but publishers will also be less receptive to unity games since that can hit them with random fees they have no way of tracking themselves

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I'm not a dev tho and have no experience with unity so i might be completely off viviscrunch But I don't think Steam can do anything about Unity RTPs

placid otter
glass knot
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kek

fair elbow
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FBI probe incoming

scarlet cape
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buy low sell high, manipulate the market by potentially damaging thousands of people's livelihoods and buy low again

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it's free money

placid otter
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playing these maps with todays movement will not be the same. going to be so fast paced

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also rumors going around for horizon forbidden west: complete edition hitting pc

smoky imp
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@glass knot

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time to mute the hollow knight subreddit

placid otter
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saw people actually wanting them to do this when unity news broke out.

dusty imp
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wait it might be fake

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i saw it on the reddit but the tweet is not there

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ffs

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this is why i need to mute the hollow knight subreddit

rustic peak
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wasnt that game announced for gamepass already?

placid otter
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yeah, but still no release date

dusty imp
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makes sense, since porting a game this late into development would be hard

rustic peak
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would be crazy if it actually makes financial sense to switch engines this far along lmao

placid otter
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if they end up doing so, it would be delayed by another 18 months probably. esp if they have to learn the new engine

dusty imp
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team cherry is probably the kind of company that would be hit the hardest by this

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theres only like 4 of them so they dont need the higher tier subscription

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but also theyll sell extremely well

scarlet cape
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that'd be so much work even for a much larger studio

rustic peak
glass knot
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But yeah

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It would be funny

dusty imp
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i keep getting reccomended posts from the silsong sub even though ive muted it

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i hate it

glass knot
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At least I'm assuming it's a meme cause absolutely no way they do this lmfao

dusty imp
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but this was on the regular hk sub so i got baited

smoky imp
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Whole Hollow Knight fandoms agrees to wait a few more years already

glass knot
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Yeah no one's in a rush

smoky imp
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But yeah it's not true

glass knot
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Everyone's just like yeah whatever release it when you're ready

smoky imp
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I would understand if they do that tho

placid otter
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such a decision def can't be rushed by them

smoky imp
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I think doing the game on another engine now would fuck them up pretty badly

stable stratus
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damn, directs everywhere

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right after the unity news

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coincidence?

placid otter
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playstation direct or showcase was already expected/rumoured to happen before today.
either way, looks good looking forward to this one

fleet wave
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state of play: all unity games canceled

smoky imp
placid otter
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saw most of those and really. even if devolver digital games are out of many smaller groups, their an entire publisher calling out is big.

fresh bridge
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the new saints row is not it

random field
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yeah they killed the developer because of that

stable stratus
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China: "Fine, I'll do it on my own"

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Knew it, China already prepared their stuff (like usual bootleg stuffs)
More like: “Our unity is our own version so your rule doesnt apply”

scarlet cape
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yeah its like i was saying, one of unity's biggest assets in this new bullshit royalty system doesn't even have to pay vivikek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfYfuAOKTxA 35 minutes left till it starts

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Sadly it's edited out now

rustic peak
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last switch direct? Eyes

hazy rune
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splatoon at the start already wow

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nintendo i am delusional please give me animal crossing crumbs

rustic peak
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too bad they already said no totk dlc

hazy rune
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lmao spy x family game

placid otter
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2d paper mario?

rustic peak
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thousand year door remake no?

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official admission that nintendo cant make a better paper mario game ICANT

placid otter
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aight, hope sony shows stellar blade tonight

hazy rune
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Eastward: Octopia is coming to Nintendo Switch winter 2023! Learn more about Eastward: https://www.nintendo.com/store/products/eastward-switch/

Welcome to a parallel world of Eastward: population... growing!? In this upcoming DLC, Sam and John return in an all-new country life adventure! In a remote mountainside village, Sam and John start life...

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HELL YEAH

dusty imp
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cant believe peach is gonna be an fe character in the next smash game

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youd have thought theres enough swords already

smoky imp
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Immediately got Peach fanart WOOOO

neon scroll
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Mourinho.gif

smoky imp
hazy rune
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yall...

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after years

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EA actually listened to the community

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actual gameplay

slate thorn
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Time to update my repack again I guess :v

dry gale
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pathetic how Naraka: Bladepoint doesn't have FSR itself

fair elbow
smoky imp
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Yes but how much will the update cost the dev hyunface

fair elbow
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What EA deserves

placid otter
smoky imp
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Gamers being gamers again ig

placid otter
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well, these are not limited to gamers sadly

placid otter
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20 minutes not long

minor bolt
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ff7 rebirth surely

placid otter
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stellar blade surely

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oh yeah this was funny

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what a budget to show off these colors wow

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helldivers actually does look like alot of fun damn

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finally

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this trailer is showing so muchhhhh

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??? sephiroth and cloud together???

minor bolt
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damn that looked good

placid otter
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very good. so excited

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been so long since we last heard of stellar blade where it at!

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A brand-new trailer for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth debuted at State of Play.
The highly anticipated new standalone story in the critically acclaimed Final Fantasy VII remake project will release on February 29th, 2024 for the PlayStation®5 (PS5™) console.

The Unknown Journey Continues...

After escaping from the dystopian city of Midgar, Cloud a...

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these suits do be quite nice

glass knot
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oh posted alr

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oops

placid otter
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this also came out today

slate thorn
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ToS removed lmao

slate thorn
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Unity providing a masterclass in how you destroy an entire company in one day

glass knot
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ada

placid otter
errant star
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announcing mario rpg AND ttyd is a blessing but such an indicator of the quality of the new games lol

celest haven
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Best belated gift ever

minor bolt
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thought this was gonna be a late 2024 game

smoky imp
dry gale
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Spider-Man 2’s New Fast Travel Powered by the PS5’s SSD is insanely impressive and is one of those things that can only be done on the PS5.

Loading screens in real new generation games are a thing of the past

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we talkin about the SSD's again

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"only be done on PS5" I don't agree to that... a PC can do it much better

scarlet cape
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so uh

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loading screens are actually a good thing because that's enough time to take a sip of water

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maybe a couple crisps

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without load times how am i supposed to stay nourished

fleet wave
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you can pause the game

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or during cutscenes

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actually this is a good point in dark souls i always sip water when I'm waiting in/for an elevator

minor bolt
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i think it was demons souls remake that paused the game for real when you entered photo mode

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which was bound to touchpad click

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so it was convenient to use

fleet wave
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pausing in a souls game? blasphemy

dry gale
fair elbow
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With my potato PC, loading screens give you enough time to heat up water and cook some instant ramen

scarlet cape
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it shouldn't be MY job as a gamer/consoomer to create artifical load times

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devs getting lazy fr

fair elbow
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Me with a mini fridge under my desk

stable stratus
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@IRCSS As a unity employee until this morning, I assure you we fought like hell against this, brought up all the points everyone has, were told answers were coming, and then the announcement went out without warning. Those of us who care are out -- more resignations coming end of week.

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unity about to be de-united

minor bolt
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apparently the death threat called in was actually a unity employee

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not "Gamers"

dry gale
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Unity going to go broke

slate thorn
pearl cobalt
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camelbak

placid otter
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hearthstone battlegrounds is so much fun

placid otter
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Marvel's Spider-Man 2 | New Details

▪️30, 40, 60FPS modes, all with ray-tracing and 120Hz (VRR support)
▪️Much more destructible interactivity with the environment
▪️Over 65 spider suits to choose from (comics, films, original designs)
▪️Some quests will be story specific to…

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smoky imp
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Man I am so hyped

celest haven
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God i love the look of this game

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Lizard's new design is beautiful

placid otter
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oh didn't realize link when copying changed to x

glass knot
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no

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do NOT make me expect anything

stable stratus
placid otter
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damn, things are real bad

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there are alot of first impressions and such about first 2 hours of spiderman 2 around if anyone intrested

neon scroll
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Unity is just dead

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Walking everything back wouldn't even do anything at this point

glass knot
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yeah seems like the company itself is imploding

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unfortunate really

dry gale
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Ayyo titanfall 2 has some apex legends stuff

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Like the physics, guns

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Even the kill sound...

minor bolt
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?

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you mean apex has titanfall stuff

warm pumice
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Don't disrespect Titanfall like that

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Even Peaches is baffled by that

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Respawn needs to quit playing and put support in that game again

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Titanfall can pull back up again, I know it

glass knot
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lmfaooooooooooo

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cant believe they just flipped apex assets like that

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😔

misty dawn
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signs apex was a mistake

scarlet cape
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lot of projects are about to get canned

dry gale
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But really it feels like playing Apex legends because that was my first game

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Respawn Entertainment, better revive Titanfall and make a sequel... This game got potential

minor bolt
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titanfall and apex dont actually feel that similar

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apex is like having 50kg weights on

dry gale
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Also, why titanfall 2 menu looks like Halo 5 main menu

valid lava
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simply doesnt

dry gale
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Let's go

dry gale
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After Cyberpunk comeback, Titanfall 2 comeback is the hilarious thing to happen in 2023

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Who would have thought?

minor bolt
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its my time

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gonna bring the CAR back out and run the one anz server into the ground

neon scroll
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I wonder if this is the AC6 effect. People wanting to play mech game, but with friends

minor bolt
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until they run into a tone sniping pilots from across the map

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and they say fuck it and give up

stable stratus
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Life of P is released btw, with Denuvo in it

valid lava
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isnt it tomorrow
well
the actual release

willow tundra
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i just noticed how final fantasy has become less colorful with ff 16 and it’s pretty sad

dry gale
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MK1 also comes with the same Denuvo shit

smoky imp
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Life of P looks so good

smoky imp
minor bolt
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shadowplay is frying my shit for some reason

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but we're so back

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servers are kinda fried with the amount of stuttering, bit more work to do i guess

glass knot
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Whatever it is I'm glad it's back and hopefully they have actual plans for it

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Even if it's literally just keeping tf2 alive

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Never had the chance to play online when the game wasn't dead so I'll try it later ig

minor bolt
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there's a lot of new accounts it seems

glass knot
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Nice

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Hope respawn at least tries to keep it alive and well maintained, that'd already be something at least

glass knot
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lmfao that too

dry gale
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man I'm having fun

smoky imp
fair elbow
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Crazy how there's GTA 5 players that weren't even born when the game first released

neon scroll
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I would hope not

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GTA5 is definitely not a game for <10yr olds, lol

fair elbow
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Me playing Vice City at 8 years old

smoky imp
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Playing San Andreas at 4 oliviakek

neon scroll
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The point very much stands, lmao

fair elbow
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Parents watching: Just casually drive around following stoplights
Parents not watching: Mass genocide and chaos

pearl cobalt
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my bones feel very old all of a sudden

fair elbow
neon scroll
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But honestly, at the end of the day that's just bad parenting, not the fault of the kid in question

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Always check up on what your kid is playing

fair elbow
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Nah I'm kidding, my dad knows what gta is. He used to play when GTA was from a bird eyes view angle

smoky imp
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Ah yes playing CoD was fun with all these 12yos

neon scroll
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Hey now, it's good to get up to speed on your slur vocabulary

fair elbow
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Cod 1 is on my all time favorite games

placid otter
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been playing ghost recon and wwe, tekken etc from age 3/4...

neon scroll
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Tekken is fine tbh

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MK is the brutal one

fair elbow
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I mostly stayed away from cod online multiplayer so I never experienced MW2 lobbies

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Not because I don't want to play online multiplayer but moreso because fcking dial up internet reasons

placid otter
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played mw2 alot on ps4, but never experienced those famous lobbies much

fair elbow
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It was on Xbox 360

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The infamous MW2 lobbies that is

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My dad didn't wanna pay for Xbox Live too so I lived on single player games