#General Chat

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neon scroll
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Oh that's why you can be excited without prejudice. Blessed soul. vivikek

placid otter
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they removed the 1$ sale, but idk if it is also the case with new accounts

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placid otter
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i only put in like 3 hours into skyrim and besides that never played any bethesda either

dry gale
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RIP

placid otter
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ah he stole copies and sold them. no wonder then

smoky imp
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Lol

dry gale
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Yes he did sold them for $200-$770

neon scroll
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That's not even the fun kind of leak

dry gale
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I still have the leaked video

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I watched myself the gameplay

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So I'm confident in Starfield

placid otter
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if lirik plays ill watch his stream, but doubt he is going to finish it as he always changes games

neon scroll
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As long as people don't preorder I don't even mind if they are excited about playing it. It is a massive game, that much at least is certain.

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And you're doing gp, so that's fine

warm pumice
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Especially since I like to do vanilla run first but knowing the hours vanilla game has plus having to replay it with mods got me iffy

placid otter
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just didn't enjoy it

warm pumice
dry gale
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Let's say we have FSR 2.1 or 2.2 during the launch of this game and it helps 1650 users get atleast 30 fps out of their PCs

warm pumice
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Is 30fps on high settings?

placid otter
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accurate

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wonder if he ever finished playing elden ring

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# warm pumice Damn,we bout to be like

But my 1650 is doing good with FSR 2.0 Quality on low settings with medium textures in The Last of Us where it uses 4.5 GB Vram and 16 GB Ram completely

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30-60 FPS

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I even turned on some light effects

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but we can't do FSR 2 Quality on Starfield but FSR 2 Ultra Performance

warm pumice
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Hmm I c

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Oh well,time to see it in first person

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If it works well,then it works well

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If not,then wait for a mod to fix it

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Nothing new in the industry

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The starfield edition wrap for the Xbox is really nice

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dry gale
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btw this is without FSR 2, Medium settings

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30 fps

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Bro I honestly played this game at 60 FPS, no way I expected it wud drop like this in medium settings without FSR

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We still have hopes for 1650 as it runs games at 30 fps in medium settings without FSR

warm pumice
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Sheesh

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imagine if this game doesn't support DLSS

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that wud be a huge backlash from the PC RTX gaming community

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neon scroll
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A triple A game in 2023 not supporting both AMD and Nvidia standards would be a huge joke btw. Like, this isn't the early 2000s

valid lava
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difference is that games in early 2000s were real bangers

neon scroll
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kek

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True, but point was back then the whole Nvidia vs. AMD thing was essentially like Playstation vs. Xbox for consoles, but that went away eventually because it was really, really dumb, even dumber than console wars

scarlet cape
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oof sammie looks like you're gonna have to work hard for that nitro

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glass knot
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I feel absolutely nothing about starfield tbh lol
Doesn't help that the game's being released in two weeks and all i see about it is sammy posting random tweets from people trying to entice console wars

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Not really interested on the game, never really been interested or played any Bethesda game 🤷
I do wanna play Prey eventually tho but idk if that's just published by Bethesda or what

fallow vessel
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yeah feels like the game has no marketing

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or at least I didn't hear about this game for like a year until last week

glass knot
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Their presentation earlier on the year was pretty good honestly

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But after that i didn't see anything about the game

fallow vessel
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I don't really pay attention to Bethesda presentation to begin with

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"16 times the detail"

glass knot
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The starfield one was pretty good imo but idk

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The vibe for this feels the same as when people didn't stop talking about how good cyberpunk was, without showing any gameplay

dry gale
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it was a long break until the hype started

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glass knot
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I didn't see shit chuukek But if it ran well there that's neat

rustic peak
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What even is starfield

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Is it gonna be just tes/fallout in space?

placid otter
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if your curious would suggest watching the xbox starfield showcase from earlier this year. shows all u need to know

rustic peak
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Well im curious but not that curious

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Never really got into Bethesda games so not really that intrigued, probably gonna check out some reviews tho

placid otter
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fair, we don't know how the gameplay experience is going to play out yet. nda ends 31st this month so waiting on that

rustic peak
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Thats uh

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Kinda concerning no?

placid otter
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no?

jovial wolf
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not really

rustic peak
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I mean at least a gameplay trailer or smth

placid otter
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they showed alot. system, areas, etc... but hands on experience always very different

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there is plenty of it

rustic peak
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Ah ok, think I just misunderstood what you meant then

placid otter
jovial wolf
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the showcase was pretty thorough

placid otter
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nah, i can understand how u can misunderstand

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and yeah, showcase really does show you everything

glass knot
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Yea I think the showcase was really good in general

rustic peak
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Well that looks like its either great or a no mans sky x cyberpunk 2077 level desaster

placid otter
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combining the 2 is a good comparison i'd say.

glass knot
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And with Bethesda's track record, people expecting it to be the latter is understandable

rustic peak
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What I wonder is

glass knot
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Hopefully it's good

placid otter
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lets just say that, if there arent a million technical problems it is well worth getting excited for

glass knot
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Good games coming out is always good

rustic peak
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Did they actually focus on this and just threw out that tes 6 announcement for PR or did they actually split dev time

placid otter
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these big studios never work on 1 game at a time

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tes6 team also has to start small and slowly scale up

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alot of the starfield team like design, writers etc who have finished their side will go and support another project

rustic peak
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Makes sense

neon scroll
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And it's not the recommendation they seem to think it is

jovial wolf
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For plenty of people it is

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Honestly, at this point if you are not a zoomer, you should know if you enjoy the bethesda rpg style

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And after that it is about how broken it will be

placid otter
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sad hard truth feelsyeojin

neon scroll
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It just works

jovial wolf
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At that scale there is not escaping some level of jank

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If it is the funny stuff that people meme on yt, great

neon scroll
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See, this is sort of the issue if you lie to people too often, Todd. Eventually only people unexperienced with your bs will give a fuck.

jovial wolf
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Fair point

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Ideal gamepass game

neon scroll
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like Redfall

rustic peak
placid otter
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redfall should not have existed. that is different

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hopefully*

scarlet cape
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i played a lot of tes growing up and seldom experienced all the broken stuff people like to use as ammo
maybe i was lucky over my few hundred hours of playtime idk

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but like some of it has to be down to players doing shit that breaks the game right

jovial wolf
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You may have to specify which TES

placid otter
neon scroll
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I've had 3 different playthroughs of Oblivion ruined by game breaking bugs that save files could not remedy, that's how my journey into Bethesda jank started

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And no, I have never seen the end of that game

jovial wolf
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And if there is some country that is expert on janky rpgs, it's germany ( /wave Piranha Bytes)

scarlet cape
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through multiple platforms

neon scroll
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That is just a flatout lie

jovial wolf
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Yeah, that is kinda lucky in Oblivion's case

smoky imp
scarlet cape
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nope, my files never got wankered

neon scroll
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Ah, that sounded like you were generally speaking

rustic peak
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If only the guy wasnt tied up in his witcher Review for like 10 years

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I wanna see a totk review

smoky imp
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bruh Skyrim on PS3 was a nightmare and could kill your file

neon scroll
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Well ok, you personally were just lucky then

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Skyrim was equally broken on all platforms for that matter, the only reason it worked was the patches on PC

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And I don't mean official patches

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(obviously)

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But I played Oblivion on console and... you know

smoky imp
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💀

placid otter
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anyone know to what extend fallout76 was improved too? i know it has gotten better, but since no one plays it because of launch and after that. got no clue lol

smoky imp
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fixed some bugs and glitches more or less

neon scroll
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It still is a barren wasteland with nothing to do, no relevant NPCs and an effectively mandatory cash shop to make it playable

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But you can just go and try if you have gamepass

placid otter
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so it is now less a technical problem and mostly a content one now cool

rustic peak
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Didnt it get a battle royal Mode?

smoky imp
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F76 still seems to be played if it doesn't die yet

neon scroll
placid otter
neon scroll
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But you gotta understand that is a very low bar

scarlet cape
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it outlasted the expected lifespan

smoky imp
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i do have fun with the older fallout games and skyrim

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but well i am not that much into bethesda

neon scroll
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The best Fallout games are the CRPGs (1+2), fight me

smoky imp
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i will

scarlet cape
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sure but it's my turn first

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because thats how good combat is made

smoky imp
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bcs that's not how to spell New Vegas

neon scroll
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Fair, but no plasma cannons

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smoky imp
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i almost said Prey was one of the better Bethesda games but that was made by Arkane Studios

neon scroll
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New Vegas is a valid choice, but basically only because it wasn't made by Bethesda

smoky imp
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think Bethesda was the publisher

scarlet cape
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arkane are lit when they make stealth games

smoky imp
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I still need to beat Dishonored

scarlet cape
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dishonored remains one of the best

neon scroll
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But there is stealth in Redfall vivikek

placid otter
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yeah prey and deathloop arkane

smoky imp
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i went full murder route on dishonored

placid otter
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so is redfall apparantly

smoky imp
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was deathloop good?

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looked nice actually

neon scroll
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Dishonored probably peak Arkane though, arguably

scarlet cape
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good lesson in letting devs stick to what they're good at

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placid otter
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deathloop was very well received yes

smoky imp
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nice

placid otter
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AI in that game is one of the worst though

smoky imp
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concept sounded cool

placid otter
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but besides that people enjoyed it

neon scroll
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From what I've watched and read Deathloop was flawed, but it did have a really interesting concept

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Didn't play that one myself though

jovial wolf
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It is pretty much just Redfall, Arx Fatalis and DMoMaM were both great too

scarlet cape
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i could never get behind the spell system in arx

jovial wolf
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I could see that, it was unique

scarlet cape
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neat in concept but i could never get the spells i needed to work

dry gale
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DLSS 3.5 is here

neon scroll
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I don't recall, was Arx fatalis the ego shooter but with spells game?

placid otter
jovial wolf
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You draw the spells

dry gale
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GTX 1650 oof

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shud have waited another 1 year before buying this laptop

placid otter
dry gale
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cud have got RTX 3050

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placid otter
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going to have similar results to dlss3 i believe

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placid otter
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10 and above

dry gale
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so it's considered 10 and above

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but

placid otter
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this going to have biggest impact on ps5 as it uses amd. did xbox also use amd? i dont remember

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jovial wolf
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it did

placid otter
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okay yeah, biggest impact on current gen consoles

placid otter
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placid otter
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driver updates etc takes time

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jovial wolf
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fish

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smoky imp
placid otter
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considering starfield is not only new, but also big and sponsored i doubt they will delay it too much.

placid otter
dry gale
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Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora (PS5/XSX/PC) | New Gameplay Footage

Via: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMKjgVkGwzU

PC Features

-AMD FSR 2.0
-High refresh rate
-Ultra-wide support
-PC benchmark tools
-Ray-traced reflections and shadows

Launches on December 7

#AvatarFrontiersofPandora #Gamescom

▶ Play video
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Another one

smoky imp
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that game still exists?

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damn

scarlet cape
smoky imp
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ooohhh granblue

dry gale
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where is grumpy... pls let him play starfield so I can win a month of nitro

scarlet cape
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i'm struggling to describe granblue relink
character driven party based monster hunter doesn't feel right

dry gale
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so these games receives FSR 3

placid otter
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huh, no starfield in there

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and wukong not coming out till next summer

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watching armored core 6 whole evening and it is shit too watch, but does look fun to play it yourself

dry gale
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in future I might build a PC mostly with AMD CPU+GPU

rustic peak
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Wait frostpunk 2 is a thing?

dry gale
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AMD GPUs look cheap

placid otter
dry gale
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Halo Infinite still doesn't have DLSS or AMD FSR

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It uses Bilinear resolution scaling

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And you can still play at over 100 fps in medium settings and it won't lag

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Due to the weird resolution upscaling that prefers fps

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Image quality remains the same

glass knot
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Love this guy

valid lava
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dry gale
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In another timeline

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We are waiting for the PlayStation exclusive release of Starfield

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Xbox fanboys are slowly selling their Xbox and moving to PS5s

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PlayStation releasing the game on both PS5 and PC but not on Xbox

bitter portal
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cool af game

pearl cobalt
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against Balteus:
"ah shit, here we go again"

fallow vessel
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It's kinda funny seeing some streamers being stuck on certain parts for 3 hours

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and then seeing Bahroo just going full speed double shotgun double laser cannon and beating everything on 1st or 2nd try

pearl cobalt
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Bahroo completed the "literally impossible" nightmare mode of Remenant. he just does max difficulty with every game, which boggles my mind

fallow vessel
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yeah he is both incredibily stupid and amazing at very difficult games

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he did those impossible ironman challenges with long war in xcoms he did those 900% or whatever runs in They are Billions

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he beat the AC6 yesterday he is gonna continue with NG+ today apparently

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and also there is TennoCon today if anyone is interested

pearl cobalt
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I'm surprised how many stopped at the tutorial boss. never played an AC before and took me 2-3 tries. and I'm pretty below average on high difficulty games

I still think it was pretty crazy that the devs made the Ring of the Admiral in Remenant with "Literally Impossible" engraved because of Bahroo

fallow vessel
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he is now doing PvP with his shotgun wheelchair build

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and he is struggling with finding someone that can beat him

dry gale
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Weekend Moment

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No, I don't have a PS4 or PS5, It's my PC

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my controller got dehydrated... need to recharge it

smoky imp
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Great game

fallow vessel
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ok quadlegs hover with mid/long range is the counter to shotgun wheelchair

fallow vessel
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TennoCon in 10 minutes btw

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or Tenno Live from TennoCon in 10 minutes rather

dry gale
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https://fxtwitter.com/TheRealDfea/status/1695414296912576964?s=19 guy was just testing out something in tutorial

You guys probably already saw this screenshot flying around & people saying "You cant explore planets, bethesda lied!". Guys, There is nothing stopping you from exploring the planet. It just may be a loading screen or you may have to land at the next spot (a short loading or cutscene) to continue exploring the same planet. It evem says in the sc...

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And the PS fans come and started spreading misinformation

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Ohh the misery

minor bolt
dry gale
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I don't see any PS Fanboys in my Twitter because well I only check their for PlayStation PC releases

minor bolt
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upscaling is a blight

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series S at 768x436 and it looks like a smudgy mess

bitter portal
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i defeated balteus

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took me 2 days and multiple tries and never once expected to resort to a pulse blade of all things.

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nice game

dry gale
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Someone said the 30 fps in Starfield is not good enough with Series X (someone who got a review copy)

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There are many loading screens

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Gunplay similar to Fallout 4

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And they haven't seen too many bugs yet

minor bolt
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30fps isnt good enough in 2023 in general

dry gale
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Don't know about PS

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Frame generation, what a good concept

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Sadly GTX users like me won't be getting that feature but FSR3 Upscaling only

minor bolt
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fsr is shithouse though

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minor bolt
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ive been playing at 144hz for like 8 years, 240hz for the last 3

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minor bolt
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i can notice when something drops from 144 to 100

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let alone 60 to 40

dry gale
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And I turned on vsync on a 60 Hz display

minor bolt
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gross

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at least figure out what amd's equivalent of fast sync is

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minor bolt
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if youre gonna do that

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minor bolt
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no, fast sync

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its a version of vsync that doesnt have the input lag penalty

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vrr is also good

dry gale
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Ohh there's no input lag here

dry gale
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5 years old Sony TV with a fake HDR certificate

minor bolt
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vsync does have input lag, you probably just dont notice it lol

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triple buffered is way worse

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i think fast sync is just an nvidia thing, at least it used to be years ago

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minor bolt
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adaptive isnt the same

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iirc if youre vsynced at 60hz and you drop, adaptive temporarily drops you to 30hz until you go back up to 60

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or something like that, there used to be half a dozen different vsync options

minor bolt
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yea give that a go

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it should feel a lot better

dry gale
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Oh there's a bunch of setting here set to default

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Why is power management mode in Optimal Power

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Lol

minor bolt
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you dont need to mess with those since its at the driver level

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rather than per game

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using fast sync make sure vsync is off ingame

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errant star
minor bolt
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Not as good as the hype made it out to be

errant star
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from just desktop usage I can't tell the difference between 144

minor bolt
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I could go back to 144hz no issue, give me oled motion clarity instead

dry gale
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Fk it, I am stuck here

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I press Y but nothing happens

minor bolt
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Is that the university chapter

valid lava
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isnt that very late game
or u mean the school with bill

dry gale
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but now I finished it

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Lighting effects decrease my FPS dam bro

placid otter
neon scroll
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dry gale
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There are background NPCs in Starfield

neon scroll
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I should hope so, lol

dry gale
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stealth in space

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btw WTF Bro? why tf it happened and how? hooman beings destroyed everything RIP

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oh this sucks... shet

neon scroll
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It really is Fallout in space, huh

dry gale
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confirmed

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Peeps who haven't played Fallout here pls go and play that game first before coming into this game

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I myself have not played it yet so...

dry gale
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there is no NMS kinda planet exploration , engine is limited , planet is loaded as levels

neon scroll
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No.

glass knot
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I'm waiting on the NDA to be over to check anything about this game lol

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Cause then people can actually post vids and talk about it

minor bolt
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its quite funny seeing people coping over the boundary thing

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just saw a video of ||someone running 10 minutes in one line just to run into an invisible wall and get turned away||

smoky imp
stable stratus
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ah yes it's that time again for rage compilations

stable stratus
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same

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saw that too

minor bolt
glass knot
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idc enough about it to check
will just watch reviews when it comes out

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slate thorn
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Just get a better engine then :v

dry gale
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Creation engine good for mods tho

minor bolt
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blaming faults on a notoriously jank engine is a bit of a cop out

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starfield was always marketed like a go anywhere do anything sandbox

dry gale
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Every game has a limitation

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Also the planets are loaded as levels so you gonna see a loading screen each time you land on a planet

slate thorn
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Series s being a limiting factor for so many new games is 😔

minor bolt
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horizon forbidden west has you fast traveling from one side of the map to the other in like 2s

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no load screens if you walk/fly it

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minor bolt
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its possible, just devs dont want to put the effort into their own engines

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minor bolt
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that guys ama shows that he was hitting invisible walls just from normal exploration

slate thorn
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Xbox even sent over people to help getting splitscreen to run on series s, but, it just wont

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slate thorn
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Which they will only get if the game is big enough, aka, probably never again chuukek

dry gale
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You saw the graphics in it? Grass doesn't even exist in every game this console plays

slate thorn
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I mean, it's an insane console for the price. But the fact that it has to share games with systems that are a million times faster is just a deathblow for it

minor bolt
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ms been giving themselves L after L with series S

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cant believe they tried to market it as a 1440p machine

dry gale
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Series X being a lot better tho

minor bolt
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when UE5 games run at less than ps2 resolution

dry gale
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But why Xbox is doing this since Xbox One S?

slate thorn
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But ?5? Years later now, yeah...

minor bolt
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? both consoles have been using upscaling since the pro refresh

slate thorn
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Ah 3 years

minor bolt
slate thorn
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Hm, I thought they were older already

minor bolt
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not really the "next gen 1440p" machine it was made out to be

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its not like the X/ps5 running at 720p internal is much better but at least the upscaling doesn't look completely like someone smeared vaseline all over your display

slate thorn
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Yeah, that's the problem with releasing hardware that is basically just good enough for what you market it for at release. Within months it won't be what you made it for anymore 😔

minor bolt
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this time i don't actually think the hardware is that bad

dusty imp
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yeah, be like nintendo

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release outdated hardware at launch

minor bolt
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in this case its the software pushing too hard

slate thorn
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Isn't is basically a 1060 equivalent in there?

minor bolt
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ps5 and sx are roughly equivalent to a 3700x cpu and rtx 2060/2070 gpu

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iirc

slate thorn
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I thought xsx was 3060?

minor bolt
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no, i dont even think 30 series was out by the time the consoles were

slate thorn
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I mean in terms of equivalent performance :P

dusty imp
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all the consoles have rdna2 cards i think

minor bolt
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sx is like 5-10% faster than ps5 on gpu since it has like 6 or so extra gpu cores but its a negligible difference for the avg user

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ehhh its hard to compare across gens

slate thorn
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But yeah, when you develop a game for basically like, a """3060""". Except you have to take into account that it needs to run very well on a """1060""" as well is just kinda silly in 2023 chuukek

dusty imp
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the xsx i think was designed for a future where xbox cloud gaming was successful

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not an idea that aged well

slate thorn
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Series S seems like the ultimate cloud gaming machine yeah

minor bolt
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if anything the s is overkill for streaming

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they were meant to be working on a small chromecast like box

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that looked like a tiny series s

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idk what happened to that

slate thorn
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Probably shelved because cloud gaming hasn't kicked off yet

dusty imp
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i guess if you want to stream 4k a good decoder would be useful

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but then they went amd instead of nvidia so that wasnt it

slate thorn
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I guess the best purpose of the series s is being a "ultra mainstream" console for all the guys out there who only play like, fifa, fortnite, and cod :P

minor bolt
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yea which is fine and all but the marketing for it was just lol

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"its just a seriesX but 1440p!!!"

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when in reality it struggled to get 1080p on a lot of things

slate thorn
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Yeah, the budget 1440p monster. Like, sure, for the titles at release I guess it could run that playable at 1440p. But any new games after that... yeah chuukek

minor bolt
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im just hoping the trend of having both 30fps and 60fps modes continue

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instead of cutting 60fps in pursuit of fidelity

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upscaling 1440p to 4k to get 60fps is so much better than 30fps at native 4k

slate thorn
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For me it depends on the game I guess chuukek

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Anything fast paced, high fps for sure. Slow games I'm fine with low fps if in return it also looks insane :P

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Me running skyrim at 30 fps with 8k texture mods chuukek

dry gale
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Me playing the last of us at 30-60 FPS

slate thorn
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I wonder if I can manage to finish one BG3 playthrough before Starfield releases

bitter portal
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i am speed

dry gale
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How to tell them both are different?

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For clear understand, No Man's Sky is a Space Sim but Starfield is a RPG game like Fallout but on space...

minor bolt
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nms isnt a sim

neon scroll
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That doesn't invalidate their point

minor bolt
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theyre rather close, its just that starfield has a narrative whereas nms doesnt

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at least last i played it didnt

neon scroll
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Also Bethesda advertised the whole "There are THOUSANDS OF PLANETS that you can visit!!!!111" thing pretty heavily, so....

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Pretty fair to compare the two in space exploration

fair elbow
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KSP best

minor bolt
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not the same but astroneer was fun for a bit

neon scroll
slate thorn
slate thorn
minor bolt
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pretty sure he did an ateez one when walking out vs loud

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so i blame boy groups for fnatic losing there

placid otter
fair elbow
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Oh the original voice actress for Harley Quinn passed away feelsyeojin

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She was my favorite Harley too

dry gale
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AMD destroying Nvidia like this wud be iconic

neon scroll
#

AMD has tried that for literal decades and they've usually lost the fight

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So good luck with that

scarlet cape
#

is this the fabled pcmr civil war

neon scroll
#

Of the olden days, ye

glass knot
#

Them making the tech available for all graphics cards is pretty neat tho even if fsr hasn't really been that great

dry gale
#

Day One Patch update

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It reduced the size of the game in Xbox Series X tho damn

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Don't be disappointed later

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DLC already confirmed

dry gale
glass knot
#

sounded like a lot of coping to me

minor bolt
#

no mans sky gets panned for its planets not being as diverse as promised
starfield does it and suddenly its okay because it's bethesda
bethesda fanboys are cringe

glass knot
#

if you're a game company and you're making a space game and your main selling point is exploration

minor bolt
#

xbox fanboys coping that it isn't 100% what bethesda made it out to be is cringe too

glass knot
#

these kinda technical hurdles are something you're supposed to overcome on like the first steps of development

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lol

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also kinda funny to ask why would someone want to walk around the planet on the game supposedly about exploring

minor bolt
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the reddit ama guy confirmed that ||world tiles don't connect to each other, so when you land next to a city for example, you can't actually see the city at all, and when you leave a tile, you cant return to the same one as the same spot will regen a new tile||

glass knot
#

sounds pretty bad

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Guess outer wilds will keep the spot as the only space exploration game that matters

minor bolt
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a bit immersion breaking but i dont think itll bother me too much

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i do think its just a little funny that nms does procgen better

glass knot
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if the game's good and runs well i think the limitations won't be as big of an issue

minor bolt
#

someone posted leakers pc specs too

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Leaker reports they are running 3800x/2080ti @ 1440p on the above high settings.
He gets 45-60 fps most of the time, 60-70 fps in dungeons and space.

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which ngl is a little concerning

glass knot
#

damn

minor bolt
#

game is cpu bound meaning that my 5600x/3070 at 1080p probably wont get much more than 60-80

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and even if dlss gets ported, upscaling to 1080p looks bad

fallow vessel
#

Spore in Space Age still best Space Exploration game

glass knot
#

Outer Wilds my beloved

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Don't think any space game can come even close to that for me

scarlet cape
#

ratchet and clank is better than all of the space games mentioned in this channel

valid lava
#

going commando was my shit back in the days

minor bolt
fleet wave
#

TRUE

neon scroll
#

That's not even a shitpost tbh

minor bolt
#

its just facts

#

reminds me i still need to platinum the ps3 spinoffs

dry gale
#

Somebody pls teach him some space science that those are gas giants and there's literally no surface is present?

#

I can accept even the boundary controversy

dry gale
placid otter
#

can't blame someone if they simply dont know. does that really look like gas to you without prior knowledge

dry gale
placid otter
#

looks like planet must be a planet simply as

dry gale
#

idk how many people will try to land on Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune without knowing they are completely gas giants

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idk if landing on mercury will melt u tho

placid otter
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the power of video games. it can literally teach you like i believe what outer worlds also does iirc

dry gale
smoky imp
#

It's me I'm history fan

dry gale
#

btw who's going to walk on the planets until u see the boundary warning?

placid otter
dry gale
#

I want modders to add space vehicles in starfield

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becoz starfield doesn't have it

placid otter
#

u mean just like cars and such? starfield only has the planes?

smoky imp
#

I learned so much about the Borgia
Afterwards I wish I didn't but I did

dry gale
#

like Halo's alien vehicles

placid otter
#

i haven't played halo

#

played it once many years ago on the 360 at my cousins place and halo infinite release first 2 days a bit. thats my entire halo experience

dry gale
#

vehicles doesn't have wheels but they will hover around

placid otter
#

ohh those vehicles

neon scroll
placid otter
neon scroll
#

I honestly don't get why they have to limit the on-planet space either with invisible walls when tiles get randomlygenerated anyway

placid otter
#

game barely hits 30fps, let alone what it would be without the limit

neon scroll
#

What is that logic man

#

You don't see all of the planet

#

None of this would impede on your fps

placid otter
#

it is still loaded in

fleet wave
#

just unload it

#

this was solved ages ago by Minecraft

neon scroll
#

You can 10000% load stuff in in a way that doesn't tank your fricking fps

#

Countless games do that shit

placid otter
#

well, tell them to go and further optimize it Shrug

neon scroll
#

You know the answer to that already

#

"Modders will do it for us :)"

#

And they will

placid otter
glass knot
#

"planets"

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it'd be funny if you could bonk the core tho

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gas giants are pretty cool

neon scroll
#

Some are

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Others are pretty hot

scarlet cape
#

even the movie tie-in/reboot was good

dry gale
dry gale
#

After finishing The Last of Us

celest haven
#

Tons of fun so far

#

Incredible visuals, too

dry gale
neon scroll
#

In fact most planets are just hunks of rock

scarlet cape
#

we're all but cosmic dust

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ready to return to the universe

neon scroll
#

Far out, man

valid lava
dry gale
#

Review soon

slate thorn
cinder rivet
#

hows path of exile for casual gamer that just want to play on 1 character?

fair elbow
#

Cesar Borgia's death was a cover-up ihokse

dusty vale
#

Those planets are gas giants

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That is most dumbest tweet I ever seen

#

Gaming community become weird

fair elbow
#

If we want further realism, then we shouldn't be able to land humans on planets like Venus cause that shit is hot af and we don't want an Indiana Jones Crystal Skull moment

fair elbow
#

Considering the longest anything we've built that lasted in the Venusian surface is 110 minutes and that's all metal, imagine soft squishy humans

dusty vale
#

Imagine going to land jupiter you would die instantly

fair elbow
#

Well not instantly, just slowly building up pressure until your spaceship pulls a...

dusty vale
#

Tornadoes roam around the jupiter

fair elbow
#

Just aim for the big red dot HuTaoWink2

dusty vale
#

Dumb ways to die

fair elbow
#

Good infographic separating parts of Jupiter's atmosphere and what it would look like

dusty vale
#

I watched it rn

#

It's nightmare

pearl cobalt
fair elbow
#

Just play KSP1

smoky imp
#

Wait that's better

slate thorn
#

Lmao

#

WT so silly man

scarlet cape
#

just another day

dry gale
#

Lmfaooo

#

Nasa needs to bring out a graphics update to their system

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Or else these guys will lose their shet

stable stratus
placid otter
#

something is not right

pearl cobalt
#

random thought:
with the way Armored Core was done and it's reception, makes me wish Harmony Gold was no more and at the same time, Fromsoft (or anyone) could do a really good Macross game

placid otter
#

the power of music!

pearl cobalt
#

"You've got touch! You've got the power! YEAH!!!"
(yes I know it's Transformers related but still)

Robotech: Battlecry was the only Macross game that I know of and could see a much better, crazier more modern Macross could be.

Macross Plus favorite, especially because of Yoko Kanno soundtrack

placid otter
#

ive only watched delta and frontier. delta my personal fav

placid otter
#

did not expect this

valid lava
#

lol so glad i got rid of console gaming
fuck outa here playstation

neon scroll
#

I mean, this was expected

#

Basically always when one of the big online services of whichever kind increases their prices the other ones follow suit a bit later

#

And Gamepass did indeed increase theirs not too long ago

placid otter
#

development cost increase, game price increase, then services too

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still years away

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spiderman 2 going to be 98gb

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imagine dragons is doing gaming music againg, but for starfield this time

dry gale
#

My guy is getting shitted on by the whole Twitter

#

L

pearl cobalt
stable stratus
#

big L

fresh bridge
#

Well just bought an xbox

neon scroll
#

Here's hope you bought it on sale

#

Cause that thing ain't worth it full price. vivikek (neither is the PS5 or Switch for that matter, always buy em on sales)

fresh bridge
#

Yeah the guy gave me a discount

#

10% not much but hey 30 dollars saved

#

always owned a play station but ps5 is not worth it if you dont have a 4k tv

neon scroll
#

Fair enough. I mostly got my PS5 because of my 4k TV. But then again, isn't that the same for the Xbox? The 4k argument that is?

slate thorn
neon scroll
#

Really now, 4k TVs nowadays aren't even that expensive any more

#

Unless you wanna cover your whole damn wall or something

slate thorn
#

I bought my 4k tv a few years ago for like... 275 I think? A Xiaomi one

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I don't have it anymore though since I moved back in with my dad so I have access to a 4k oled instead MonkaEvil

fresh bridge
fresh bridge
fresh bridge
#

I just don’t understand why upgrading my ssd will cost literally 150 dollars

slate thorn
#

Because haha, we want more money MonkaEvil

fresh bridge
slate thorn
#

With ps you can at least like, plop in your own m.2 ssd as long as it's fast enough and has a heatsink and such. Instead of some weird proprietary ssd thing that xbox uses 😔

minor bolt
#

true, been meaning to pick one up now m.2s are getting cheaper

minor bolt
#

starfield EA in like 16 hours

#

but $185 for that is just criminal

fleet wave
#

what the fuck 💀

#

$185

#

and here im thinking $60 is way too much for a game

minor bolt
#

well nzd

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standard is 130 or some shit

#

when ill just pay $1 for the 14 day trial and finish it

fleet wave
#

oh nzd has a very different value it seems

minor bolt
#

its in shambles rn

fleet wave
#

it's so confusing that all of these currencies use same symbol

dry gale
dry gale
minor bolt
#

works on my machine

slate thorn
#

Probably varies by region

dry gale
#

also why tf it's $12

#

meanwhile here it's just $0.8

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oof not anymore

dry gale
#

my frnd got Premium edition upgrade in his XGP version... I am confused

minor bolt
#

review embargo drops in 15 min i think?

placid otter
#

no idea what the time is, but should be today whatever timezone they decided to go with

pearl cobalt
#

you're correct, few more minutes

placid otter
#

streamers have started playing the game it seems

minor bolt
#

streamers chuufist

pearl cobalt
#

yeah, they are allowed to play the same as the review embargo

placid otter
#

7 score from ign

dry gale
#
IGN

Starfield reviewed on PC and Xbox Series X by Dan Stapleton.
It’s never a great sign when someone recommends a game on the grounds that it gets good after more than a dozen hours, but that’s very much the kind of game Starfield is, and I do recommend it. There are a lot of forces working against it, and the combination of disjointed space travel...

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placid otter
#

just waiting for the tweet with all the scores listed

minor bolt
#

oof

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gamespot gave it a 7 too

#

those reviewers gonna want to lock their twitter for a while

dry gale
placid otter
#

fanboys might be angry, but 7 overall not bad

placid otter
#

because it is not atleast an 8

minor bolt
#

because fanboys lose their shit when hyped up games arent 9+

#

but at the same time review sites only have themselves to blame for that

dry gale
#

7 is big enough

minor bolt
#

7 shouldnt be "good", its very good

#

reviewers use a 5 as if its awful when it should just be average

placid otter
#

VGC giving it 5 stars

minor bolt
#

not sure if i should just snipe the $1 trial now in case ms removes it before now and wednesday

placid otter
#

they already did

minor bolt
#

not for me

#

its $1 for 14 days

placid otter
#

weird, not available for me

#

ah 14, new account im assuming then

minor bolt
#

nah ive done the $1 thing like 5 times by now over the years

placid otter
#

looks good

#

but now we wait for all these streamers to give us their less subjective reviews

#

was i supposed to use the word objective?

placid otter
#

character creation ui reminds me how the menu looks in Nier automata

dry gale
jovial wolf
#

"A huge game with excellent performance and very few bugs" that's not something you expect to read about bethesda release

pearl cobalt
#

I personally don't have anything current to try it, much less a next gen console.
gamepass or watching a streamer play it is a safe bet.

pearl cobalt
jovial wolf
#

there was some noise about them helping heavily with QA

minor bolt
#

more like ms will throw more resources at something if they deem it worthy

dry gale
pearl cobalt
#

well, if you look at their backwards compatability team, it's a good idea of what they're capable of

pearl cobalt
#

343 was in the opposite direction unfortunately

jovial wolf
#

watching cohh, some of those traits are hilarious

pearl cobalt
#

well, it's a mix of FO/Elder Scrolls in the backend. guessing traits are more Fallout like?

dry gale
#

Welcome back, baby

jovial wolf
dry gale
pearl cobalt
#

flying to planets and landing on planets are fast travel points

#

Shroud currently killing random wildlife

dry gale
#

Starfield deflected the Cyberpunk situation

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but it got into TLOU situation

#

game sucking out a lot of resources

#

the Halo Infinite moment

fair elbow
#

The Xbox Series S doesn't have the dude

minor bolt
#

literally unplayable

dry gale
#

30 fps

dusty imp
#

wait starfield only came out today?

#

tf were people talking about for the last few weeks then

minor bolt
#

premium edition early access is in 11 hours

#

everyone else it comes out on the 6th

dry gale
placid otter
#

The analysis you've been waiting for. We're planning to deliver a much more in-depth technical review for Starfield but we're kicking off with answers to some of the big questions: how solid is performance? What about bugs and polish? How does Xbox Series S shape up bearing in mind we've seen nothing of the S version pre-launch? You have questio...

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celest haven
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"Uninspired main story with weak writing", "Underwhelming vision of space exploration", "Shallow RPG mechanics with regard to dialogue, quest solutions, and influencing outcomes", "Terrible map system that makes key locations tough to navigate", says IGN about an open world space RPG game, and gives it a 7

#

Makes sense to me!

placid otter
#

her hair oliviakek

dry gale
#

only possible with creation engine

smoky imp
#

And clothes

placid otter
#

ngl, like the clothes better in S

smoky imp
#

Beauty Gurus Hate Her

placid otter
#

performance seems to be mostly good on both systems nice

pearl cobalt
#

is looking very much like Fallout in space with a cleaner engine so far. but no flying in/out of planets like a space sim (that I've seen)

dry gale
#

No DLSS in Starfield is confirmed

neon scroll
#

IGN having the worst review score is not something you see often. Did someone over there suddenly grow a spine

neon scroll
dry gale
dry gale
#

look at this tweet

#

now they compare it with IGN themselves lol

placid otter
jovial wolf
#

my thoughts are that I don't speak stroopwafel

placid otter
#

i honestly thought ign reviews were just translated to diff languages instead of them actually being different

#

never used dutch one as it always is much more empty

celest haven
#

Fun times

placid otter
#

oh yeah that happend lmao

placid otter
#

btw, saints row reboot i think it was is free to claim if u have ps plus

smoky imp
#

Holy shit they closed???

#

I had fun memories of Saints Row 4...

placid otter
#

didn't realize it didn't embed

#

but yeah, after 30 years they closed down. (creators of saints row)

placid otter
smoky imp
#

Well the reboot wasn't really good from what I heard

placid otter
#

anything after 4 really

smoky imp
#

I didn't go beyond 4 lol

#

But it was stupid and fun

dry gale
smoky imp
#

Dw I won't

dry gale
#

the character suddenly vanished out of camera and is standing next to you very closely

#

nice bug

#

ngl

placid otter
#

game seems to have been mostly bug free, so some minor ones can be excused

#

yay got another mount yerimmm

jovial wolf
#

argus, damn, the only times I went there past few years was when someone wanted me to make them portal to the rare

placid otter
#

also got a fel spotted egg today, so maybe can get another manta ray mount if lucky enough

#

will take 5 days to hatch. just simple collecting in WoW is always fun

scarlet cape
#

its funny how a 7 is seen as bad when that's still above an average score

#

maybe its because reviewers are just too scared or being paid too much to ever give a game anything below that

#

but 7 is absolutely a good number for your game to be

neon scroll
#

In theory of how it should be yes, practically no

dusty imp
#

basically everything below a 5 isnt worth writing a review about

pearl cobalt
#

if you like Fallout/ Elder Scrolls, it's looks pretty good. if you're expecting more space sim elements, it's not looking like it. but it looks to be Bethesda's best rpg.

neon scroll
#

idk about that one, chief

#

given that the RPG elements are apparently rather lackluster

pearl cobalt
#

as in it's their best Fallout/Elder Scrolls RPG that isn't buggy. compared to most RPGs, of course it is pretty lackluster.

BG3 is tops for RPG

rustic peak
#

Slightly earlier access for premium edition has to be the worst recent trend in gaming monetization

neon scroll
#

The worst thing about that is the apologists for it

rustic peak
#

But its always funny to see some Studio come up with some new way to farm money

#

And then slowly all the big Studios start copying it lmfao

neon scroll
#

I blame Blizzard

placid otter
#

fortnite save the world already had early access pre-order aswel

pearl cobalt
#

that's been going on for awhile too. "here, you can play the beta if you preorder"
to
"here you can play early if you preorder/ get ultimate super edition"

neon scroll
#

Fortnite is free though, you don't pay 30+ bucks extra

placid otter
#

fortnite save the world
no it is not, this is the zombie gamemode that came out way before the battle royal

neon scroll
#

In that caseit definitely didn't popularize this trend, which is what we're talking about rather than "someone did it ages ago and no one noticed"

rustic peak
#

The one they abandoned cause the battle royale blew up?

placid otter
#

damn, skillup also didn't get review code for starfield feelsyeojin

neon scroll
#

wdym, the more critical outlets won't get review codes? shocking. vivikek

placid otter
#

too much honesty for them

rustic peak
#

I mean they also gave eurogamer a review code but asked them to only put up a digital foundry review 💀

placid otter
#

they gave eurogamer a code, after the tweet saying they did not get one

rustic peak
#

Ah missed that update

#

Still weird from them

placid otter
#

many outlets didn't get one

rustic peak
#

Yea of course

#

Im just saying its even weirder to give a Code to an outlet but effectively limit what they will review about it

#

Maybe reviewers relying on the good will of the studios is secretly bad for the industry

slate thorn
dry gale
#

K that's sus

#

Why every IGN from other countries giving Starfield 9/10 to 10/10 and IGN giving them only 7/10

#

Is IGN biased towards PlayStation or what?

neon scroll
#

... how does that logic make sense

#

IGN JP would be the most biased towards Playstation

#

And yet they are the ones giving the "WILL NEVER BE ON PS5!!!!111" game a 10

#

Honestly, the 7/10 is the most realistic out of all those scores given the stuff they stated

dry gale
neon scroll
#

Truly riveting storytelling vivikek

dry gale
#

Just museum

neon scroll
#

I mean... at least with audio clips someone put in some effort vivikek

dry gale
#

Save money from voice actors

dry gale
#

The mods started fixing stuff

#

Understandable have a nice day

#

They don't have 3050 in default global graphics settings file

valid lava
#

3050 WeirdChamp

dry gale
#

My friend says he's getting 60 fps in Starfield with a RTX 3050 at full power

#

Waiting for combat results

dry gale
#

It goes from 30-60 fps in GTX 1650 which is good ig

#

I have got a trick to play Starfield early without buying premium edition

minor bolt
#

we cheered

slate thorn
dry gale
jovial wolf
#

"decision" it's a subjective review...
so that ign person did not like it that much, big whoop, there really is no reason to dwell on it

smoky imp
#

I swear everyone is overreacting over these reviews

jovial wolf
#

"different people enjoy different things" more breaking news at 10

slate thorn
#

People acting as if IGN's word is like, a factual objective final verdict of what something is like chuukek

minor bolt
#

ign: "7/10 has its flaws"
so biased!!!
welovexbox123: "10/10 masterpiece"
so true!!!

#

reviews for hyped games like this should mostly just be ignored

smoky imp
#

Mfs when one IGN gives Starfield a 7/10

glass knot
#

mf really hit them with the "whateveer...... i dont care....."

dry gale
#

Can even edit teeth lmfaoo

#

Bro we got a whole make up kit here

dry gale
#

The 3rd person looks better than 1st person

slate thorn
#

4th person when

dry gale
#

FK this shet, it suddenly attacked me

#

Wait WTF

#

Vasco called me Captain Sammie

#

Bro I entered the name Sammie

#

But how it's in the voice files?

#

AI voice built in or what?

dry gale
#

Oh wait

#

There are Audio Logs

dry gale
#

Ok so

#

The space exploration is not a real space exploration

#

You are just stuck in a skybox, it might look like you are moving in space but no you are stuck in a skybox, it goes on... even if you try to approach a planet closer, the planet will be still far away from you

#

In order to land on the planet, you need to open the universe map and select a landing spot and hold X (I played in controller) to land on the planet

#

It's not like no man's sky where you directly land on a planet, just a loading screen in between and then you see yourself a cutscene of landing on that planet

#

Same for taking off

placid otter
#

ppl should really stop acting like 7 is bad

placid otter
dry gale
placid otter
#

was watching a stream in the background yesterday and each time i tabbed it was either them in the menu or in loading screen half the time

#

pre-orders for ff7 rebirth are also up on amazon and a few others. so more info soon to be expected

smoky imp
#

persona 6 lipstare

random field
stable stratus
#

Persona 6

dry gale
#

Bro I need more health, I often die in Starfield

#

Enemies are bullet spongy

#

Human beings destroyed Earth WTF, it looks lifeless now

slate thorn
#

Persona 7

smoky imp
slate thorn
dry gale
dry gale
#

This ain't good

smoky imp
#

realistic outcome

dry gale
#

No atmosphere, but hey there's a civilian outpost on Earth's moon

#

People started living in moon now

fair elbow
#

People see a 7/10 and assume it's bad. Like what?

#

How can 7/10 be bad when on/under 3/10 exists

#

Mfs be like "Yeah the show was mid 7/10" 💀

slate thorn
#

I mean, anything below 6 means it's bad

#

Like, if my grades are below 6 I have a problem

#

So even though 7 is basically just good, it's not too far away from being kinda.....

fair elbow
#

5/10 is literally the definition of mid

jovial wolf
#

yes, if you ignore the context of most reviewers not using the whole scale

slate thorn
#

If I would get a 5/10 it would be the definition of you fucked up for me chuukek

placid otter
fair elbow
#

6/10 is above average and 7 is good

jovial wolf
#

again, the scale is not being used that way

#

what is so hard to understand about that

slate thorn
#

On a scale of 1-10 you never aim for like, anything below 10 really

#

So the average is not 5

#

The average is going to be like 7.5

#

Because you're only really looking at 5-10, because you only aim to get a positive grade

#

Now in practice the average ofc won't be 7.5

#

That would be more of a technical average

fair elbow
#

What I do find funny is that people get worked up over a variable number as if it'll affect their enjoyment of a game like it would wildly change if was a 10 or a 7

slate thorn
#

Getting a 6 on a scale of 1-10 is basically sub-par

jovial wolf
#

yeah, that is silly

fair elbow
#

"I really enjoy and love this game but I can't because some gamers rated it really low"

placid otter
fair elbow
#

If a game is a 10/10 for you then hooray

placid otter
#

one can have just as much fun even with lower overall product quality

slate thorn
fair elbow
#

Why are we still using IGN ratings as a end all basis anyway? Same company that deducted points for having "too much water"

jovial wolf
#

I mean we are not, it's just sammie that kept bringing them up here

fair elbow
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Subnautica gets a 0/10 for me, there's literally too much water

slate thorn
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I don't think I've ever really looked at ign reviews before, I mostly just check like, metacritic and watch some gameplay stuff and such chuukek

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Or nintendolife for switch games

fair elbow
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I don't check review scores anymore, they're mostly skewered anyways

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I watch gameplay

jovial wolf
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I checked the reviews to learn about technical stuff and then went for opinions to those people that I know view these games similar way to me

slate thorn
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Yeah, I tend to not really pay attention to the score and more to what is written in reviews

placid otter
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ign score and other reporters are more just out of curiousity for me. skillup and audience score at metacritic only 2 i pay attention too seriously. oh and digital foundry

fair elbow
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And whether my potato PC can run it KEK

placid otter
jovial wolf
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Cyberpunk ran fine for me vivikek

slate thorn
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I played cyberpunk day 1 and it ran perfectly for me with zero bugs at all chuukek

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Used up all my luck that year on cyberpunk :^)

fair elbow
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I "played" (soulsip) Cyberpunk too but my PC said nah fam

placid otter
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my cyberpunk experience:
day 1 played2 hours
day 2 nty
day 3 50 minutes
day 60+ refunded
Present - bought it on sale for 25 many months ago and still not touched it.

slate thorn
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I have like, 140 hours in the game I think?

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I'm not sure

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I would have to download gog to check so cant be bothered rn chuukek

fair elbow
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Can't you just check via website?

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Or is that only a Steam thing?

slate thorn
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dunno

jovial wolf
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it's there

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just have to go to Activity feed -> Games

smoky imp
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I played it on PS4 🙂

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Base PS4

fair elbow
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Base? Base on what

placid otter
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base ps4 (not pro version)

fair elbow
smoky imp
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Base on my lack of money

fair elbow
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The most money I've spent on a non-gacha game is ATS

dry gale
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I can understand IGN giving Starfield 7/10 because it's how the game it is and giving 7/10 is already fair enough

fresh bridge
slate thorn
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ssd's for a ps5 aren't 150 thnk

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Like, a 2TB ssd that's suitable for ps5 costs $100

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Or a 1TB ons $50

strong olive
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Long time I didn't updated my acc 🥸

placid otter
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how is this acceptable PepeHands and i need 2 of them too ablobpainrain

celest haven
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DAMN

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Holy fuck

glass knot
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jesus

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Nice

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That's great

celest haven
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About time