Suggestion - Cancel crafts and or fusion in progress.

[wet dragon]

Maybe an option to cancel crafts and or fusions in progress in case of accidental start. I would be okay with cancelations causing you to lose resources and components used to start either or.

Thoughts?

[distant solstice]

I could see this being abused during KC

[cedar nexus]

how? you don't get points until a craft is completed so canceling shouldn't be an issue

[distant solstice]

you could cancel crafts to opt for better point distribution/optimization

[cedar nexus]

so?

[distant solstice]

well that makes the event even easier

it's already easy to begin with, and I don't see a reason to make it even easier

[open tangle]

because outside of the event

it will be really nice

and kc is what 1 or 2 days

and then you have a month

[distant solstice]

can people really not wait an hr or 2 for a craft to finish?

i just find this really extra

[cedar nexus]

how about a day or 2 for those actually fusing t13

i dont find it extra at all really

[distant solstice]

there's a fusion rush talent for that for that purpose

if you choose not to go that path, that's another issue

[cedar nexus]

im well aware. thats for people wanting to rush a fusion. this is a suggestion to cancel one

[distant solstice]

why start a fusion if you don't want it

there's not really a "accidentally" starting a fusion because it requires more clicks, unlike a craft where you can accidentally click on it

[next olive]

Alo-vera would this addition really bother you this much? Just let people have a quality of life addition

[wet dragon]

Can you be a little more thorough in your response? I’m not understanding what this means. If you cancel, you’re losing resources so I’m not entirely sure how it could be abused at all.

[wet dragon]

Fusing the wrong item happens more than you think. And again it’s just a QOL suggestion in case someone does. Again, cancelling would cause you to lose resources

[distant solstice]

I honestly don't get how you can fuse the wrong item

[distant solstice]

well you could cancel a craft to and craft something "better" during KC.

[summer latch]

Optional dismantling upon completion. It would be great to get around bad choices. Like making stones and have 2k in inventory...

[wet dragon]

Understandable but you would lose the resources from the original cancellation so you’d be stuck regardless.

[distant solstice]

I understand the loss of resources acts as a "punishment", but I feel that sudden open slot opens up many other possibilities. For examples, fusion crafts (especially if you have fusion talent there's even more incentive), or another line of craft (original craft used iron ore and related resources, with a sudden free slot, you could potentially craft an herb line craft)

[open tangle]

how is there any incentive unless you accidentally start a craft

[copper trench]

Do u really believe the few points u could potentially gain from cancelling a craft could possibly tip the scales on who wins the trophies for kc i can solo the event several times over a few extra points isnt gonna affect my guild let alone me

[open tangle]

im not even sure it would give any points to scotty people getting crazy scores

since they skip the craft anyways so it wouldnt be benificial to halt a craft

[wet dragon]

I see what you did there.

[slim pebble]

Could have it refund the materials involved if you cancel within say the first minute perhaps? Just thinking if this is to help deal with accidental clicks that'd be nice.

[copper trench]

Or just use energy to speed it up and finish faster

[tame gulch]

Honestly... the one argument that guy has presented against this post is "don't make the game easy". I don't see how not wasting people's time would be considered "easy". I 100% agree with the idea of canceling stuff.

[distant solstice]

Why make the game even easier when it’s not exactly hard to begin with?

[tame gulch]

Because people have lives that require them to work, take care of children and have sex. All that demands time, which doesn't come cheap. "Oh no, i misclicked or changed my mind and now I have to wait 4h till I can use this crafting slot again. This makes the game sooo hard annoying."

Edit: btw, those are the very same people that buy ingame stuff that keep it alive.

[wet dragon]

How is cancelling crafts or fusions making the game easier? Your argument makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It’s a simple QOL suggestion with all necessary precautions put in place to avoid abuse.

Everyone is entitled to their own positions on the matter however at least have some factual backup when presenting an argument. It’s just taking away from the discussion when someone blabs nonsense.

[distant solstice]

Part of the idea, in my mind, is to make methodical decisions when deciding what to craft/fuse. Not to be able to simply “take back” your decision whenever you want.

[wet dragon]

At a loss

[distant solstice]

Yes, there are accidental crafts, but that’s only taking up 1 slot for at most a day or 2. I think most can live with that

[distant solstice]

The resource cost is minimal to many, especially at higher levels when you have so many bins and superior regen rates

[wet dragon]

I’m at higher level and even with perks and bins at 16-20 you still take a hit if a craft is cancelled.

[distant solstice]

I’m not against the idea of this specific original suggestion, but more so the “you can simply take back your actions” implication that comes with it

[distant solstice]

You can decide to do other things with that open slot though. Like craft another line

[wet dragon]

My argument is that you keep calling it simple. If you’re losing resources for cancelling, it’s not simple. No matter your level.

[distant solstice]

What being simple? I haven’t called anything simple

[wet dragon]

Umm.

[distant solstice]

That “simply” is a filler word. Take the word out and the message still stands

Doesn’t affect the original message without that word

[hot merlin]

actually at higher levels regen rates are much slower especially for large t3-t4 resources making the resource loss a big deal. Even with 5 level 15 bins and max perks u can run out of a t3 resource with under 7 crafts

[distant solstice]

I’m confused, how does something get slower as you level it up?

[hot merlin]

because the crafts take a lot of resources to make

for example many items take 40+ jewels or ether

[distant solstice]

So it’s not the regen rate itself that gets slower, but how much time it takes to replenish after you’ve consumed that resource. Is that what you mean?

[hot merlin]

and with level 21 buildings and max boosts and perks it takes 20-30min for resources to fill for ONE craft

yes

so with that in mind a resource loss is huge

[wet dragon]

Not to mention essence takes even longer.

[distant solstice]

Ok, resource loss is a fair enough punishment. I’m not one to comment on that as of now. I just don’t like the idea that you can take back your actions. In my mind, having an open crafting slot has more benefits than keeping potentially lost resources from the canceled craft.

[hot merlin]

I mean i just don’t see how anyone benefits from keeping a crafting slot open like how u r saying. To play this game efficiently u are constantly crafting, and for those of us not popping on every 10min but rather playing 10hrs a day at times, i’d say the one craft that i messed up and got to cancel without beating myself up about it on the daily matters more than the one person who may make another 2k in kc when top guilds are doing 500mil+. With that in mind I think quests should be able to be cancelled as well

[hot merlin]

Also it’s not taking an action back but rather a mis click on a phone because the screen is small

I see no reason as to why someone should be HEAVILY punished for that nor with how shop titans lags as well which doesn’t help with the mis clicking

[distant solstice]

well I presume this open slot is gonna be used for something, hence this idea of being able to cancel a craft so that a slot can be freed up to craft something else. it's not just a empty crafting slot sitting there.

[distant solstice]

I understand it's a misclick if it was an accidental craft, but it wouldn't be considered a misclick for those who didn't misclick but instead have the option to cancel (if this was implemented). I'm aware the basis of this suggestion stems from the "accidental/misclick crafts", but if this is implemented, we have to acknowledge that all users have access and those who didn't actually misclick also have access to this function. That's my thinking for the "taking back" part.

[thorn rock]

I’m not picking a side but currently the reason I believe they didn’t add this is because crafts are already predetermined the second, it’s crafted this someone could probably look at the code and be like this is just a regular quality and try again and keep going until they get epic or leggy or green if they really wanted. This was something that was exploited a while back and got patched

I’m 90% sure this “hack was happening” but regardless this why offline mode doesn’t exist to many exploits to deal with this topic I’d give Kabam some slack just this once