#tourneys-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 105

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 7:15 AM

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@tulip spire I'm not saying other clans would not have, but if they had, they would have lost their integrity and the respect they had too. Until this season, Ra1d was a class act. Now they're not anymore. But yes, the most important part is that wg won't allow this to happen again in the future

flat goblet May 28, 2020, 7:16 AM

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No, i’m saying something like buying pncr or pramo to play for your clan in the ascent stage, since they would have extra tickets. More of a meme than anything, but sure to turn heads.

silver vapor May 28, 2020, 7:17 AM

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or even better, just buy the teams and have them grind to top 8, then you bring a meme team into top 8 in their spot lmao

this is going to be how 40%ers get their professional camo and professional avatar

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 7:17 AM

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ahh. Yeah I think Artem said that's not allowed, but it could be difficult to prove

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 7:18 AM

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^ Exactly @vagrant phoenix

Anyways - we should expect R1B to be telling us to be quiet and stop talking about it. He is after all RA1D's literal clan leader and dedicated streamer/content creator. Of course the PR image of his clan and team matters to him, and it would be convenient if we stopped talking about it and just pretended it never happened.

As for attention seeking, I would dispute this. Any neutral party on the CC server / the esports (/streamers) server can go through the chat logs and see that while R1B was ~~begging~~ adamantly pushing for coins for his streams, I literally did not mind and even pushed coin rotation (if it was to be limited to one coin stream per evening)... heck, I think I was even a proponent of 50/50 between EN and DE streams at one point. Additionally, I frequently streamed to WG's official YouTube channel and to improve overall stream quality there, didn't have them restream to my own. Check those streams by the way, there's not even a link to my channel in the description and never was.

I was never a streamer for attention or for the benefit of my channel. All I ever wanted to do was elevate Blitz esports through commentary and coverage, be it official series or community organised events. edit - I also spent a tremendous amount of time and effort trying to convince WG to get other people in to stream - most notably Fishy and Fugit.

flat goblet May 28, 2020, 7:21 AM

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It is allowed though. There’s absolutely nothing in the rules stopping it, and through precedent it would hold.

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 7:23 AM

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that's not a fair call, imo, Brian, towrards R1B. Previous seasons have had a lot of different things, coin-wise. First -all- streams would give coins. People abused this by watching multiple streams, so WG didn't like that. Then one stream got coins, and it rotated. This season, one stream got coins and it rotated, but R1B was excluded. Which, even though he streams in German and not English, isn't fair. Raising that as an issue is not 'begging', imo. He does have the most loyal watchers - all German speaking people tune in to him, which makes sense as he's German and he follows the only German clan that participates in the Professionals, and has the longest average watchtime of all of us

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I do think this is aided by the English viewers having more streams and team-ups to chose from, but that doesn't change the numbers on his part

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 7:25 AM

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@leaden belfry I meant previous seasons - agreed not fair to use word "begging". Also unfair that he was excluded this season outright.

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 7:26 AM

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❤️

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one victory this season though was that he could stream the Grand Finals too - because he streams in a different language. That, imo, was a good call

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Overall, we do have a lot more streamers now, this season. Every server had cover every day. I'm really grateful for that, as all the servers deserve the exposure

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I do miss having you as a streaming partner, partner in crime, etc, though, Brian <3 you and I are/were still the only ones to cover all servers, and though I don't match your level, there's something about covering all servers that's just different than just one server. Not talking about the time and energy or amount of streams, but you get a different understanding of the servers

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Yes - that was a good decision by WG to have finals streamed in EN and DE. If you have streamers working in different languages it makes sense to have as many viewers covered as possible.

wraith merlin May 28, 2020, 7:32 AM

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@leaden belfry You are the voice of reason. You have my respect...

main belfry May 28, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Its not only that he is streaming in a different language, his Streams are probably the best Tournament Streams in terms of quality aswell. Of course everyone puts a lot of work into his Streams, but r1b is doing that on next level in my opinion

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 7:33 AM

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you should see his setup. It's definitely professional

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I work from a small table and a laptop, and I'm happy with the result I get from that 😂 can't afford more than that right now, so am not expecting more right now either

vital obsidian May 28, 2020, 7:51 AM

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fair call from wg to give coins only for a worldwide spoken language stream, if not several coin streams allowed

tulip spire May 28, 2020, 7:56 AM

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@winter swallow Bergging for Coins , ok....

Funny, near every single Stream from you was supportet from WG, tbh your whole Channel is builded from WG... and now you cry If other People ask for Support? Funny Story....

There is the difference, at least i can say at the end i did it by my own work. And now go Drive your Sheridan and try to use some ATGM Mr. Twoface....

They is a Rolling who spits big words, and there is the RealityRolling, 50 Games the Sheridan in 30 days, great Job...

Your trying just to put me in a Bad Spot, the reason is till today Rollings little Secret? its not the first time.....

vagrant phoenix May 28, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Very classy 🍿

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 8:03 AM

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@tulip spire just like some of what Brian said wasn't fair, that's not fair by you either. Brian's channel was build by Brian, not Wargaming. People wouldn't have subbed to him if they didn't love his content - which focused primarily on tournaments - both the WG ones and those run by the community. He also got back on his choice of words with regards to the 'begging'.
Calling him two-faced because he hates the missiles and drives the Sherri isn't fair either - I hate the missiles too, you've seen exactly what I've said about them everywhere, including the CC server, and I still drive the tanks too. The tank is great, even if I hate the missiles. It's very possible to hate the missiles and still drive the tank

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Speaking as mod for this one though; I know you two aren't friends, but you'll both have to act a bit more civilised with each other, on this server

tulip spire May 28, 2020, 8:11 AM

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If you cry the whole time about Something you should not Drive them, i dont find the right words but its called "to be real". Same Like crying about Crates and Future them on the own channel.

low badger May 28, 2020, 8:12 AM

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I think there's a difference there somewhere- ones an advertisement for a terrible mechanic, and the other is playing playing a video game. Not everything has to be a consistent political statement and pov

silver vapor May 28, 2020, 8:18 AM

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this is like saying "you dislike this tournament format, so don't play this tournament"

tulip spire May 28, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Nope, cause there is one Tournament and 400 different Tanks, you have the choice

low badger May 28, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Imagine not running sheridan in comp- this meme was made by teams asking to lose.

gentle sierra May 28, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Who said anything about sheridan in comp , ofc you'll run it cause you are at a disadvantage otherwise

median mantle May 28, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Me playing is the real disavantage for a team lol

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I appreciate the self roast, made my day @median mantle

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 8:32 AM

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@tulip spire -:::Part 1 of 2::: 48 of my 864 regular battles at Tier X, over the last 30 days, have been in the XM551 Sheridan. This is the tied highest battle count of my Tier X vehicles within the recent 30 day period. The other tank with 48 battles played is the T57 [which for some reason I have really, really enjoyed playing lately]. Of the 40 Tier X tanks in my garage, I have played all 40 to some extent. The lowest 30 day battle counts are the Foch 155 and Object 263 at 2 battles each.

Please note, these figures exclude Rating battles where I have, at Tier X, almost exclusively played the T-22 and T62a. I think I have around 300 rating battles this season.

Objectively, the XM551 Sheridan is one my worst performing Tier X tanks - this partly owes to my play-style not favouring light tanks and also because I spend time in the Sheridan seeing how to better pull off ATGM shots rather than spamming APCR for performance's sake. Additionally, my approach to rotating tanks after battles is that in a day, if I start playing one tank, I will stop playing it until I have at least one win in it. So ironically, the more I lose in a said tank, the more I play it (assuming I started playing with it that day).

In the same way vehicles are tested and then opinions are formed, and feedback given to WG - since update 7.0 has been announced, I have made an effort to explore the ATGM mechanic (like I did in testing) as it is presently, to help myself better understand how 7.0 changes translate comparatively. If it's possible to see when my games in the XM551 Sheridan were played, you would see the majority of them (in this 30 day period) fall after the 7.0 announcement.

Interestingly, in total, I have only played 104 games in the XM551 Sheridan. And if I recall correctly, ~50 of those battles were during testing. So comparatively, ATGM launching vehicles make up a very small fraction of my total battle-count / playtime since December 2019. - Part 1.

vital obsidian May 28, 2020, 8:35 AM

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is this a tournament ch ?

main belfry May 28, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Ngl at this point take this into dms or into a stream/vid

This turned from a discussion about Tournaments into a "Rolling trying to justify himself and make R1B look bad feed"

Try talking about Tournaments again. Without childish behavior but rather forward going discussion, or just stop at this point.

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 8:38 AM

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So guys I am waiting for twister, also another thing I am excited about is maybe a possible community tournament 👀

wintry hound May 28, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Blitz drama pog. @median mantle wtf!!1! U said u wont expose us bruhhh

median mantle May 28, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Yes. LGN used hax. Please go ahead 😹👀

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 8:44 AM

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All I can say is No u @median mantle

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 8:49 AM

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@tulip spire :::Part 2 of 2::: Furthermore, my time spent driving ATGM vehicles and exploring the mechanic strongly correlates with testing, either officially for WG, or personally in relation to announced nerfs in upcoming updates. I just checked, and in total, I have 192 ATGM vehicle games across all time. For the XM551 Sheridan = 104 and the T92E1 = 88. For the XM51 Sheridan, 48 battles in the last 30 days - 58 battles in the last 90.

You cannot assess/analyse something you do not understand/experience. Painfully, if I want my comments on ATGMs to be relevant, not only do I have to face them but I do have to make some effort to play them through.

Not that anyone remembers, but - strongly in relation to tournaments - I pushed back just as hard against locking OP tanks behind paywalls (which is Pay 2 Win - P2W). The prime example of this is the T-22 in connection with Twister 2019.

I was only able to do take that position through being on the tester program and experiencing first hand just how troll the T-22 armour profile and general balance is.

@main belfry - my initial contributions to this tournament channel discussion were 100% tournament centric, discussing RA1D and their actions in the Spring 2020 tournaments. You will find it is R1B who has turned the conversation away from this topic, in a masterful piece of PR deflection work I might add. However, I said all that I needed to say on the issue so do not feel the need to expand further.

Returning to ATGMs, after driving them recently and seeing their prevalence in ratings, tournaments and training - plus associated performances in the hands of players which can land the broken trick shots - I am hopeful that the proposed 7.0 nerfs to the XM551 Sheridan and ATGM mechanic will improve tournament game play. I hope that the XM551 Sheridan is still used, but that ATGMs aren't quite as broken and that the BC-25t sees more usage, thus diversifying the game play.

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One more piece of numerical information for anyone that is capable of more than a rudimentary analysis of someone's BlitzStars page - in the last 90 days, I have played 1631 regular battles. 67 of those have have been in either the T92E1 or the XM551 Sheridan. That is 4.1% of regular battles.

TBH I am now hoping to spend more time training with tournament teams than scrubbing around in randoms lol

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 8:55 AM

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And we're now returning this chat back to what it was intended for - tournaments. Whatever is going on between you two can be talked about in pm, not here.

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Unless what you're typing is tournament related, @tulip spire, take it to pm.

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Tournaments are cool

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I really like that season coins can be exchanged for a choice payout - either Free XP, Gold or Credits. This means players can get what they need/want the most from the season coins and WG doesn't end up giving too much away + players get less of what they want and piles of stuff they don't need.

For myself, the free XP was very useful and helped me unlock the Ho-Ri very quickly. 10/10 move on that front by the esports team.

versed field May 28, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Premium day. Not gold 🙂

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 9:01 AM

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season coins did reap better rewards in past seasons

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I've been only getting the free xp as it's the most useful, imo

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and what Tumppi said

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didn't we get like crates last season? I mean, they're crates, but what was in there (chance of an FCM, I think?) was better than this

cold furnace May 28, 2020, 9:03 AM

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You could get FCM+the third legendary camo for coins. I still have a crate lol

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 9:04 AM

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ah, you're right

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what year were the season containers then?

wraith merlin May 28, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Sheridan nerfed, English lights are implemented. Guess which tank will be the favourite light tank in Tournaments.... Edit @winter swallow I think that the Sheridan will remain the favourite choice. Just a hunch....

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 9:08 AM

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The crates were linked to a Twister season. I think it is better to compare Twister seasons to each other and Spring seasons to each other. WG definitely differentiates between to the two series, with Twister being the favourite child.

edit to reply to below : @wraith merlin - probably the BC-25t. Unless the Vickers is massively overhauled it will see as much use in tournaments as the FV4202.

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Vickers is huge though, not sure if it'll work. But we'll have to see

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and Vickers does not have the luxury of firing from safe cover

vagrant phoenix May 28, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Vickers was incorrectly sized and has been fixed I believe. The very nice view range might be useful.

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 9:15 AM

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If the vickers got smaller it could be useful. The thing was just too tall / large - and had no workable armour for comp contexts.

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 9:17 AM

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it has been resized, not sure how much of a difference it's made though

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it'll be fun to have more lights in tournaments, but I honestly hope we'll get bigger maps first

vital obsidian May 28, 2020, 9:22 AM

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it would be nice get back td to tournaments now they practically gone

leaden belfry May 28, 2020, 9:24 AM

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only the 268 made a regular appearance this season

serene crystal May 28, 2020, 9:24 AM

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tds have such an hp deficit that its difficult to use some of them nowadays

versed field May 28, 2020, 9:25 AM

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E100 is pretty good for replacing tds +1000hp more

flat goblet May 28, 2020, 9:33 AM

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upper oar May 28, 2020, 10:06 AM

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plus a turret

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its gonna take some serious balance changes to restore TD’s, because right now all they have (some) is better camo

versed field May 28, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Tds need more dpm or bigger alphas or...

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 10:35 AM

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The Ho-Ri has insane penetration on its premium ammo. Which makes it a good heavy counter - but with the current meta focusing on DPM and focus fire rather than static positioning, I think in order to be viable - TDs need some kind of HP buff or DPM buff. Problem with TDs as a class is that by Tier X, they are arguably the most diverse in terms of game play styles and varying attributes/characteristics. They might need fine-tuning individually and that would be a real head ache.

Blank changes could be give the heavily armoured ones more HP. Give the more mobile ones slightly better gun handling / penetration / DPM and leave the one trick ponies (183 and 4005) as is / a slight HP buff.

wraith merlin May 28, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I think that with the upcoming nerf of the Sheridan we will be seeing the 140 more often. 268 will still be the favourite (only) TD and ofc the usual suspects being the IS4, MAUS, T110E5 depending on the map... And that is if we don't see any changes from v7. 1 and on...

glass thunder May 28, 2020, 10:51 AM

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td's are good except the wz113 GFT the most useless tank,
only problem is ATGM's just remove them and go make better work why spend lot of time and the end result will be like 183 a really bad tank but still can do big damage with mean the tank is bad for who drive it and its not funny for who lose lot of hp in one shot

specially for rank the team who have more missiles tanks can farm you so you have to choose btw hiding to protect your self from missiles so you become useless for your team
or rush those missiles tanks and pray the red team will not cover them

azure pecan May 28, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Imo the only thing they can do better with TDs is buffing thier accuracy overall. It would decently improve thier sniping skills which is what they are made for. Giving them more dpm or HP will just lead to TDs not used as TDs anymore

Accuracy is the best thing they Can do for it
But the problem is that Blitz maps are still not made for TDs

cold furnace May 28, 2020, 11:01 AM

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shell velocity buff

azure pecan May 28, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I disagree, having a mediocre velocity is good because its adds an additionnal skill the td player needs to handle

cold furnace May 28, 2020, 11:07 AM

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I only want a shell velocity buff for 113G,E3 and Ho-Ri. To hit a fast Sheridan or a BC is so annoying everytime. you literally have to predict his movements to hit him

glass thunder May 28, 2020, 11:11 AM

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well tier 10 is balanced just few tanks need small changes and we better let wg do that cause they do have data
and td's now they still the best option to farm damage so why buff them ,make no sense

cold furnace May 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

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To buff the accuracy and the shell velocity isn't necessary. It would be more "comfortable" to drive tds

wraith merlin May 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

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I suppose that you are suggesting all those changes tournament-wise. Because I find the current state of tank types to be fine gamewise. And something irrelevant: I think that the blitz community is abusing the term 'meta'...

azure pecan May 28, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Yes for tournaments.
Its true that buffing TDs ' accuracy would make it too good for randoms, only fine for cw

wintry hound May 28, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Bruh

bright tundra May 28, 2020, 11:43 AM

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@vagrant phoenix in one of many ironies, the 9th placed team on EU (ie. the losers from raid’s move) is a team who pulled the exact same move a week prior.
@gentle sierra Since no one (aside from the potential participants) pays any attention to “professional” tournaments, raid had nothing tangible to lose and did the logical thing - had they not done it, the beneficiary would have been... FBI. If blitz esports was a spectator sport “community” etc would matter, even if the community is 12 year old weebs.

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 11:45 AM

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TDs just ruin the entire gameplay in tier 10. Doesn't have turret? Ok you can outspot meds until you shot, have infinite penetration, damage, mobility, gun depression, accuracy and armor. Such balance, cause apparently you can't destroy a tank without 1k dmg alpha and 400mm of penetration. Then you can control half of the map using one bush. Battles without this class are the most fun and dynamic which is suitable for a game called BLITZ. I almost forgot about balanced HEs that u can spam dealing consistant 400damage. Even if your position is terrible enemy still has to lose half of HP to delete you... Thankfully we have ATGM to counter that 💜

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The only solution to make TDs suit blitz is to turn them into brawling tanks and not snipers. Remove broken penetration values, lower the damage to 560 and you can buff HPs and mobility/armor.

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 12:11 PM

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^ I disagree with pretty much everything you just said @thorn shale

@bright tundra - RA1D didn't know who they would usurping a top 8 spot from until the results had been settled. That aside, the age old adage of 'two wrongs don't make a right' still applies.

cold furnace May 28, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Without the Snipers the gameplay would be way too aggressive

silver vapor May 28, 2020, 12:15 PM

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tbh it's totally fine if a certain class of tanks is irrelevant in comp, as long as your core gameplay isn't being dominated by a few tanks like back in 2016

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Without the snipers game would be what it is supposed to be. I believe fast-paced gameplay is way more interesting to watch than camping as well.

gentle sierra May 28, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@bright tundra If blitz esports was a spectator sport , so popularity meant more sponsors -> more earnings for the team then yes , what the community thinks about a certain team would matter , but in the current state of the comp scene , the opinion of other teams let alone the random people that are just watching the games and are not even taking part in the tournament doesnt really matter , being liked by people wont help you win more games

serene crystal May 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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tbh 10th placed team LXN wouldve made it through in 8th, wih fbi and ra1d behind them if neither had ticket farmed@bright tundra

wet tide May 28, 2020, 1:14 PM

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For me it’s just that we gotta get rid of the atgms, it’s toxic and nerfing the speed of a light has nothing to do with it shooting rockets over ridges.. Also it’s troll armor and (not sideskirts but the thing that prevents HE penn) is BS aswell, a light shouldn’t bounce 15 cm cannon shots... Rn the meta is mostly heavy spamm cuz of the HP buffs. I don’t really have a problem with this but really get these stupid missiles outta here man.... The td’s don’t fit in the current style of gameplay cuz they too vulnerable. If wg wants to get rid of the rush tactics always maybe the tds need smthing better to make it more interesting for the tour teams to use a sort of passive tactic. One last thing, the t22. Get rid of the OP tanks in TX man, its supposed to be the tier for tournaments. The troll armor with the dpm and is7 armor profile is total bullsh*t. For me the only problems are the rockets and t22s.....

serene crystal May 28, 2020, 1:22 PM

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in regards to the t22, simply just make it so 'collector' and 'premium' tanks cant be played in tournament matches, i don't personally see a huge issue in doing so. Cant ever see WG doing this unfortunately as it may remove some of the incentive for people to grab their pesky t22

bright tundra May 28, 2020, 1:28 PM

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@serene crystal LXN = the team that people here (=mostly their rivals, since there’s hardly anyone writing here who isn’t a current or former participant) derided for using a 1 battle 100% winrate account? How many ticket farming tears would have been shed for them missing out? None. But that’s not important because, as @gentle sierra says, the participants don’t care about who loses out as long as they themselves win.

Its obvious why Rolling is upset by this since he spent a lot of time and effort as a populariser of blitz esport, hoping to bring to the masses a product that isn’t so grubby or embarrassing. Imagine if there were sponsors or large groups of impartial spectators - who on earth would want to associate with this kind of crap?

silver vapor May 28, 2020, 1:31 PM

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^ 100%. If I were a sponsor I'd never come close to this game after seeing drama like this

serene crystal May 28, 2020, 1:35 PM

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yes i agree with the sponsors part. and the 1 battle 100%wr part is the other example of teams rigging the tournament as much as possible in their favour, so in that regard its similar to ticket farming. both consequences of WG being lazy/naive about loopholes in their tournament structure leading to 'cheating' or however people want to call it

gentle sierra May 28, 2020, 1:36 PM

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The company itself doesn't care about the comp scene of this game lmao , and people are angry about individual teams teams not caring as well , its not the job of each team to draw viewers and sponsors to the game .

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 1:36 PM

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T-22 isn't OP. You trade the armor for accuracy and mobility. Also medium tank doesn't mean free penetration.

serene crystal May 28, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@thorn shale whether its op or not is besides the point. As long as tanks which you have to pay for with real money exist in tournaments, there is always the risk of broken tanks being introduced (so p2w). And then these tanks will never be nerfed/changed as they are premiums... brilliant

wet tide May 28, 2020, 3:39 PM

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@thorn shale whether its op or not is besides the point. As long as tanks which you have to pay for with real money exist in tournaments, there is always the risk of broken tanks being introduced (so p2w). And then these tanks will never be nerfed/changed as they are premiums... brilliant
@Ed.#2708 @thorn shale thats one point of it, also I don’t remember the T22 being that slow and inaccurate but ok

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 4:00 PM

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T-22 is not even in the meta too much anymore

velvet dome May 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Bruh, I still think my points are worth mentioning.

Challengers rewards are peanuts compared to professional rewards. And with the current way of determining the top 8 and top 16 currently, any team top 8 caliber team can miss out on the top 8 even if they are second place in the third week of the month long tourney.

I get that professional tourneys are streamed. But it feels like you are punished for being in challengers when the qualifiers are so cute throat.

Next point, which only applies to Asia, is that is there a way to bring the number 17 team into top 16 if one of the top 16 team don't register?

silver vapor May 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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tell the team that ditched the spot just because they can't make it to top 8 🙃

hardy prairie May 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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That point applies to NA too. Challengers only had 6/8

glass thunder May 28, 2020, 5:05 PM

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challengers useless tournament so why blame others for not playing
max reward you get 4M credit per players by playing 2 weeks when you can get it in 3h playing random

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Honestly the rewards for some tourneys need to be more

flat goblet May 28, 2020, 5:44 PM

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You would actually get more credits by playing about 4 coin tournaments than challengers, on top of other smaller tourneys during the week :/

And that’s assuming 1st place for challengers.

Oh, but there’s free XP too! Well yes, but the coin tourneys replace free XP with coins. Winning challengers gives at most ~30k free XP. Assuming you win 4 of those coin tourneys (arguably easier) you get 900 coins, with which you can get 50k free XP.

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silver vapor May 28, 2020, 5:49 PM

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ebic

winter swallow May 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Lol. Excellent math by WG. Don't worry they just balance game vehicles by math too. Everything is fine.

strong marsh May 28, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I opt for more big tournaments with better rewards to fill the whole year schedule and not 2 months of prof | zzz | 2 months of twister | zzz |. There's enough room for another tournaments that can encourage players to participate and strive for the victory for more than 4/5 months of a year

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Agree with 🐦

thorn shale May 28, 2020, 11:36 PM

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^

velvet dome May 29, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I get that challengers is a mid tier tourney for those who didn't qualify. But 1 certificate for 1 tier X tank is definitely flipping the finger at us, while the professionals get a legendary camo for all tanks. That's camo wise.

Other than that there isn't any incentive to play challengers when you can play the seasonal tourney and get equivalent if not better rewards.

Avatar? The Julius Ceasar avatar that I got looks better imo because it's shiny.

Also Challengers tourney just feels like an after thought.

In twister 2019, 16 teams could theoretically join. Then in spring 2020, only 8. Why?

📎 Screenshot_World_of_Tanks_20200529-133709.png

versed field May 29, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Because top 8 clans got last year tickets too

vital obsidian May 29, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Because clan which made pro was allowed to send a sec team to challenger. It did not happen in eu, but in ru the sec team in challenger got wildcard to Minsk if I remember correctly

wraith merlin May 29, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Do you think that we might see the super Conqueror as a tournament heavy favorite?

winter swallow May 29, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Yes.

wet tide May 29, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Lol why, it’s gonna be slow, have bad gun handling (Btw sorry for that ammorack that game but it was lovely tho xD)

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 9:30 AM

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@velvet dome top 8 clans could send one team to prof and one team to challengers bcs all the clan got both tickets. Thats why in twister 2019 there were 16 slots in challengers.

latent olive May 29, 2020, 10:04 AM

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wow that kinda went south quickly lol. In fairness this Spring tour did highlight a few areas WG need to consider for tours going forward. The whole ticket thing, be it F-B-I or RA1D wasnt against the rules and as such it is to be expected that at Pro level such loopholes would be exploited and why not? It may appear unfair, unsportsmanlike or cheating but in real terms it isnt, its merely exploiting an area that wasnt covered to gain an advantage. There is no harm in that. Hopefully WG will close this loophole because it isnt fair on those clans who couldve progressed but for the loophole and understandably they feel slighted and rightly so. I totally agree RA1D are a top 8 clan, but even Top teams can fail to qualify in any sport, its not like Man U are always in the Champions league (eg: I am not a Man U supporter!) and yes RA1D may have lost some respect because of their actions in the final ascent, but that is also normal. TBF until this point RA1D have been a very well respected clan so it was always going to be that they will lose some brownie points for their perfectly legal actions, not because they are cheats etc but because reputation is based upon actions I am afraid and many saw this action as underhand. I am not saying it was wrong but it didnt look good and reflected badly, especially after the fallout from FBI doing the very same thing. As for the season coins, WG had to do something to prevent people exploiting the system by opening multiple windows and gaining lots of coins. As a streamer myself it wouldve been nice if all the streams had coins, because without coins the views are lower and thats a shame for both the streamer and the clans they are streaming, but I understand WG's view on this . Maybe they can consider how to limit the coins somehow across the streams. At the end of the day the we got to see the best team win in both Challengers & Pro tours and thats what counts. No doubt there will be refinements before next tour 🙂

tropic lotus May 29, 2020, 12:20 PM

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This years challenge the stars will have a premium tanks and credits as rewards. Is this true?

gentle sierra May 29, 2020, 12:32 PM

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@thorn shale so the super conq is gonna have good frontal hull armour and 2.8k hp?

gentle sierra May 29, 2020, 1:01 PM

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This isnt wot pc though , and id wait for the tank to be officially released on the live server , and from what i know i dont expect it to be used over the is4 cause they have completely different roles , might be used instead of the e5 and that depends on if it gets the consumables the e5 has but then again i dont expect it to be as fast

Might be used over the 215b cause of the turret placement , but all are just speculations

tropic lotus May 29, 2020, 1:02 PM

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The Super Conq has been over hyped

As well it l a c k s mobility

gentle sierra May 29, 2020, 1:06 PM

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To be used yes , to replace the is4 definitely not

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Hi

gentle sierra May 29, 2020, 1:11 PM

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" Is4 with better dpm and gun depression in exchange for some side armor. Yes" your words not mine

fast hareBOT May 29, 2020, 2:07 PM

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dynoSuccess Ancalagon__🇬🇷#2809 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess Karim#6715 has been warned.

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Keep this chat to tournament based conversation

fossil lance May 29, 2020, 2:22 PM

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i wish it was easier to get into tourny games. it would be nice to just join a que of players willing to play in order to actually get into some random tournys without having to try and join someones set tourny team

cold furnace May 29, 2020, 3:30 PM

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To talk about possible meta tanks is tournament-related

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I remember when Red Bull wanted to sponsor twister. You might have heard of Red Bull before. You know. The enormous billion dollar company with a FORMULA 1 TEAM, FOOTBALL CLUB, and have people sky dive from OUTER SPACE. But no. We got sandisk. Where are they for us now?

median mantle May 29, 2020, 4:21 PM

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WuuuuuT, RB wanted to sponsor twister?

pale finch May 29, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yup, what Raik is saying is correct, we could have a huge sponsor invested in ( obviously ) their energy drink brand, multiple extreme sports and for example NY Red Bull’s, RB Leipzig, RB Salzburg and instead we got ehhhh. The other thing.

versed field May 29, 2020, 4:30 PM

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What happened with that rb sponsor ship, wg doesnt choose them?

fast hareBOT May 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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dynoSuccess орест#7801 has been warned.

wintry hound May 29, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Blitz sponsored by red bull 😂

hardy elbow May 29, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Ку

winter swallow May 29, 2020, 8:26 PM

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The super conqueror is unique-ish in the combination of assets it brings to the table at tier x. Assuming it can bounce shots and has relatively good DPM / consumables, it will be used in comp in some way.

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Sconq takes 100+ dmg HEs, so it's bad for holding. For pushing it's slow, doesn't provide dpm and HP. E5 all the way.

winter swallow May 29, 2020, 8:44 PM

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We will see.

glass thunder May 29, 2020, 9:05 PM

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@chilly terrace we did get credit from coins tournament but not coins

flat goblet May 29, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I don’t think sconq will be useful

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@versed field wg rejected the Red Bull order because Sandisk was already the title sponsor. Sandisk also promised us flash drives which we never got so that was cool

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Everyone in the world has heard of Red Bull. No one outside Eastern Europe has heard of Gorilla Energy drinks

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Wg passed on one of the worlds most recognizable brands for one that isn’t known to the world

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This is why we can’t have nice things

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Pfff....

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Also. Where is Sandisk now?

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Imagine your clan jerseys being done for free by Red Bull

sour breach May 29, 2020, 9:49 PM

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isnt it HuaWei sponser rn?
they did a giveaway on a huawei phone

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:49 PM

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I have no clue

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Gorilla energy sponsored 2019

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Past that I doubt anything has been announced

pallid raven May 29, 2020, 9:50 PM

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They normally have one main sponsor and several smaller ones.

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Amazon did mobile masters well

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Promoted it

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Produced it

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The whole thing was smooth

half urchin May 29, 2020, 9:54 PM

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@chilly hemlock you didnt receive your san disk prices? but you arent talking about the 2018 twister, arent you?

edit: ah ok. sorry to hear that :/

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:54 PM

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2017

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Twister 2

pallid raven May 29, 2020, 9:55 PM

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3-4 sponsors

Heard of Xiaomi, cooler master and sans disk @chilly hemlock

📎 Screenshot_2020-05-29-22-54-31-51.jpg 📎 Screenshot_2020-05-29-22-53-01-44.jpg

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@pallid raven how many have you heard of?

thorn shale May 29, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Xiaomi is well known actually

versed field May 29, 2020, 10:10 PM

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In china maybe

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Sandisk is the only one I’ve heard of and has any awareness in the us that I know of

strong marsh May 29, 2020, 10:32 PM

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is there going to be a bigger tournament this summer?

chilly hemlock May 29, 2020, 10:45 PM

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@thorn shale 1v1 a drac and you might agree 😂

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@strong marsh probably not till professionals

hardy prairie May 29, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I’ve never heard of xiaomi tbh.

winter swallow May 29, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Xiaomi are pretty big. I have their Roborocker S6 and - ngl, the fact that my vacuum cleaner navigates and maps autonomously via LIDAR is astonishing.

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I mean - if you ever go to China and see the factories for most products there, they are in duplicate. High price tag brands we know here for export, and then the same product with a slight rebranding and different software package for their domestic markets.

Saw this with GoPro. Blew my mind. Literally the same damn components but the local budget brand one was 1/5th the price 😂

pallid raven May 29, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Borjomi are a Russian water company
Joma are a Russian sports apparel brand
The O over an X is a Russian social media network, called OK (Odnoklassniki)

Cooler master are well known in the pc gaming community

upper oar May 30, 2020, 4:39 AM

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not here in NA tho

shrewd iron May 30, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Imagine.... RED BULL gives your tank wings ahahha 😂

fathom tiger May 30, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Gives wings to your atgms

latent olive May 30, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Xiaomi are actually massive - they have an operating income of $1.4 billion, larger than Red Bull. They have quite a few stores here in Dubai. Gorilla Energy is a Russian company, based in Moscow I believe. They are quite well known in Russia, where they sponsor extreme sports such as Ultimate fighting and stuff and as the RU server is the largest player base it kinda makes sense to have a well known Russian brand. They may not be well known in the West, but the EU & NA servers combined arent as big as RU tbf. Sandisk are also pretty big tbf being the 4th largest manufacturer of flash memory. Its therefore unfair to think that WG got bad sponsors because these are not minor corporations in business terms.

vital obsidian May 30, 2020, 7:40 AM

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will there be a coin tour on Tuesday or is season done?

versed field May 30, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Season will be over i quess

main belfry May 30, 2020, 8:44 AM

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@latent olive fair enough, still u gotta admit RedBull would have been a sign, a big Sign for ESports in Blitz

winter swallow May 30, 2020, 9:41 AM

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@latent olive aye - we use SanDisk for all our drone and underwater photography card needs because their top end stuff is incredibly good for very high quality real time video recording etc.

thorn shale May 30, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Is the next tourney season bronze silver and gold? Also would bronze tourneys usually be Tuesday and Thursday?

latent olive May 30, 2020, 12:49 PM

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@main belfry true RB is a big name and yes I fully admit they are certainly more of a household name worldwide and yes a huge boost for Esports in WOTB. @winter swallow yeah, most of our stuff is scandisk 🙂

thorn shale May 30, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Bruh Bronze,silver,gold tournies were op, 7 mil creds a week

glass thunder May 30, 2020, 1:55 PM

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yes with some gold that system was great

vital obsidian May 30, 2020, 2:31 PM

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probs back to clan rating...

winter swallow May 30, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Imagine Gold series tournaments between now and Twister season, and the result of the gold series were part of the seeding system used to match teams up.

sly hornet May 30, 2020, 2:35 PM

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the silver and gold series were pretty nice

eternal niche May 30, 2020, 2:37 PM

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made me rich

thorn shale May 30, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Hungary?

glass thunder May 30, 2020, 2:41 PM

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@winter swallow that was 2017 system for twister

thorn shale May 30, 2020, 2:56 PM

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just put more big tourneys WG... No need to have cash prize

thorn shale May 30, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Wait after spring what do we have now? Qts or bronze and silver tourneys?

obsidian vine May 30, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Ya all of the above

glass thunder May 30, 2020, 6:01 PM

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we don't know what we will get but off season tournaments before spring were so good specially with big tournament where you can earn 2500 gold per player

versed field May 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Play month for just earning 2,5k sounds bad. Make it evwn 5k

wraith merlin May 30, 2020, 6:45 PM

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I suppose that some clans could meet in an unofficial tournament in training rooms. But organized, not like clan wars. For example, 8 clans could meet and organize a round robin style tournament. All you need to arrange it, is the love for the game and good will. The games could be broadcasted by several youtubers (I think that they would gladly help). The winners price could be prearranged between the clans, outside of the game, as the sum of a certain participation fee.

past marlin May 30, 2020, 6:47 PM

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U sound like PKonblitz

glass thunder May 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Better than play 2 months and in the end get 4m credit for wining challengers

versed field May 30, 2020, 7:01 PM

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+30k free xp dont forget xD

glass thunder May 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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yes lot of free exp lol you even can get 50k with season coins

winter swallow May 30, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Alternatively - go and work minimum wage for a few hours and just buy the in game resources and then spend your time doing something more worthwhile.

median mantle May 30, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Oof. WISE advice

winter swallow May 30, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Blitz is not an esport. Tournaments are just structured 7 man platoon game modes with extra rewards. So seriously, don’t play them for the rewards because the rewards do not correlate with the time invested. Play it because you enjoy it.

tropic lotus May 31, 2020, 12:40 AM

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He’s not wrong

amber tusk May 31, 2020, 1:50 AM

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When is the next professional tournament

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 6:14 AM

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@winter swallow As I said before in this discussion WG is giving peanuts to the tournament participants and to the winner. And in my case, as a parent, I would not let any of my children fly to Minsk (a big part of the players are 18 or under 18 and we all know it)... Or let them spend their time being completely unproductive by training for all these hours. If you do the maths, it doesn't worth it. And on that I agree 100 % with you. Now, as for the work and the minimum wage argument: Mate, there are more important things for someone to work for than spending, or even better wasting, a minimum wage on Blitz. This is an insult for the people that actually working for a minimum wage. It also would be a wrong motive for a youngster to start working. Some youngsters may misinterpret what you are trying to say. And I say this to you, because your words may have an impact to any young reader viewing this conversation. And I continue, this is 2020 and things have changed nowadays. I will not analyze this in socioeconomic terms, so others will understand. So, today: You provide=You get paid accordingly. If this is not the case then you don't live in a democracy or you are getting manipulated. Since all these people are investing all this time and money (by buying ingame resources) to provide a show, promoting Wargaming, I think that they should at least be decently rewarded (IMO not gold, not credits, but in cash). You stated that Blitz is not an esport. No game alone is an esport, that is self-evident. But since we are talking about WoT Blitz tournaments, are these not an esport? Let's have a look on the final format of the tournaments being the Twister cup finals. If that format doesn't remind you of esports then I really don't know what to say more....

vital obsidian May 31, 2020, 6:27 AM

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There is no doubt Blitz is a small esport compared to the big cashy ones, where top players can earn a good profit. The interesting question is, do blitz has possibilities to develop to a bigger thing, and if so, how?

fast hareBOT May 31, 2020, 8:38 AM

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dynoSuccess Traye1989#4540 has been warned.

winter swallow May 31, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@wraith merlin - This is a public forum where people can discuss things publicly. If a parent thinks my comments are not appropriate for their child, they should have a better handle on what parts of social media their progeny are accessing.

My example was not to shame minimum wage in any sense. I was illustrating that the tournament rewards at any level do not tally economically with the time required to earn them - basically, if a player is playing tournaments to earn rewards, that is the wrong way to think about it.

The Twister Cup grand prize for 2018 and 2019 was €50,000 - split that 7 ways minimum and it is ~ €7,142.85

Roughly speaking, it is reasonable to assume a team will scrimmage 100 hours before a major series.

Take the most recent Spring/Twister format. You add ~16 hours for time in comp for Ascents. +16 hours (minimum) scrimmaging for that month.

Then 7 hours for Top 8. +8 hours (minimum) scrimmaging over those two weeks.

Assuming you win Top 4, that is another ~5 hours. + 4hours (minimum) scrimmaging. That is 156 hours.

You then have 1-2 months to train before the offline. Let’s say conservatively another 100 hours of scrimmaging.

That is 256 hours total of training and competing under one season. Excluding time travelling to the offline, participating in PR events and there and also competing there (depending on travel it can be a whole week).

Assuming you win Twister. Assuming your time invested correlates with the above estimates. Assuming the prize pool is split only 7 ways. Excluding up to a week travelling to/from and attending said event. Excluding time before that point playing to develop. Prior to tax and any currency conversion fees - the absolute best players/best team in Blitz earn very roughly $30 per hour gross.

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It only happens once per year, and the odds of winning the grand prize are heavily stacked against any one team.

Ultimately, whatever level of your gameplay - tournaments are not worth it in monetary/reward terms. Even if you happen to be in the best team in the world.

The pride/prestige of winning a tournament fairly, and the awesome experience of travelling expenses payed to play video games offline at a high level? Sure. But that only applies to the very highest level.

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 9:57 AM

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@winter swallow ''This is a public forum where people can discuss things publicly. If a parent thinks my comments are not appropriate for their child, they should have a better handle on what parts of social media their progeny are accessing. '' This is not what I meant, you are stating again the self-evident. ''if a player is playing tournaments to earn rewards, that is the wrong way to think about it.'' As i said before I agree with you 100% on that.

winter swallow May 31, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Ah ok - I misunderstood.

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 10:33 AM

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@winter swallow Edit was lost (have to blame Slowmode for pressing ENTER by accident. I am doing something wrong) Now, your calculations concerning the wages per hour are -in my opinion- incomplete, the actual amount is way less than the one you wrote. There are also other parameters (simply speaking life limitations and obligations) that we have to take into consideration while calculating the final amount, but this is a discussion for another time. In conclusion what I wanted to say is that, to be competing in Blitz (in its current esports state) is totally pointless. My arguments were based on this logic. And these reasons made the example of getting a minimum wage job (assuming just to get that extra pocket money) even more unreasonable. But wouldn't it be ethically correct to prevent any youngsters by doing so?

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@wraith merlin it’s almost like a large portion of people who play this game at a high level don’t do it for the money. It’s a game. Majority of the people I know who’ve been to multiple offlines view the money as a nice bonus, but it’s not the reason why any of them, myself included put in the time to get there

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And to quote you’re earlier statement, if you do ever have a child who’s put in the time and effort to become good enough at the game to make it to a twister offline, only for you to deny him travel because in your opinion “it’s not worth monetarily” you would be extraordinarily out of touch with why your child would be wanting to go in the first place, and with what makes an offline like Twister such a unique and cool experience

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Those are my two cents

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 1:50 PM

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@thorn shale "only for you to deny him travel because in your opinion “it’s not worth monetarily”" I was just referring to the economical aspect and TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN. On the other hand those who play the game just for fun, they would easily ignore my comments and this is the right thing for them to do. I did not discuss anything else about the tournaments. Not even about the gaming aspect during those, because simply I cannot participate as a PC user. I do not have the tournament experience gamewise. I admit it, I am guilty as charged on that. Now, commenting your above statement in quotes, there are several other reasons and parameters for me to decide (and thus take my final decision as a parent), whether I would allow my child to travel to a foreign country. But those don't concern anyone, including you. The audacity needed for someone to exclude any kind of conclusions, concerning others parenting and trying to give ''advices or guidelines'' to a parent are at least ridiculous. Try sticking to the subject of discussion and don't misuse any ad hominem fallacies only to justify your opinion. You can do this in a much proper way.

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@wraith merlin I was merely commenting on a statement you made about Minsk offline. No need to write me a thesaurus powered paragraph 😄

atomic tartan May 31, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I was present at all 4 Twister Cups. Played in 3. I still have yet to meet anyone that is only there for the money

lusty crest May 31, 2020, 3:05 PM

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A thesaurus, is that the one with spikes on it's tail?

glass thunder May 31, 2020, 3:06 PM

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The players love the competitive side of the game so majorité don't play for rewards
but give cool rewards make more players want to play tournament and make the cw's community more healthy

atomic tartan May 31, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Yea. But that doesnt call for analyzing Blitz in monetary terms when literally nobody plays for the money. Its just not a relevant analysis, and drawing conclusions like I would never let my kid around this is asinine.

glass thunder May 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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yeah and in others Esport main income for players are from the ORG's more than tournaments prices except for few cases like astralis players

main belfry May 31, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Stepping back from Twister, there should be better rewards for normal tourneys, and qualify tourneys aswell

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Guys let's clarify something. I have never said to participate in the tournaments ONLY for the money or the rewards...

chilly hemlock May 31, 2020, 3:44 PM

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As if it was ever viable in the first place

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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'' drawing conclusions like I would never let my kid around this is asinine.''
@atomic tartan Another expert in parenting. Don't isolate a part of my writings and interpret them the way you want. I have already answered about that topic specifically. If you still deny to understand, that is clearly your problem...

chilly hemlock May 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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If this was rocket league or fortnite or cs go or cod with million dollar tournaments a few times a year, you could make a living in combo with a highly successful YouTube

atomic tartan May 31, 2020, 4:08 PM

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@wraith merlin well excuse me if i couldn't be bothered to read every word of your three page essays about a subject that I probably know more about than you ever will

harsh ember May 31, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Yikes

low badger May 31, 2020, 4:12 PM

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This is a thonk

neon thistle May 31, 2020, 4:17 PM

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oof

fast hareBOT May 31, 2020, 4:33 PM

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dynoSuccess Ramazanrüyası#7046 has been warned.

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@ember robin @thorn shale random chatter is for #off-topic-discussion not here

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Anyway, since spring is over, what are the next kind of tourneys coming? Sorry my first year of blitz

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@atomic tartan You did not bother reading but you did bother replying... Assuming knowing more about what? Tournaments? I couldn't be bothered more... This is the proper time for you to start revising some things about you. Get a life already! In general I would like to state this again. The rewards in blitz are peanuts. Take it or leave it, I really don't care what you think.

atomic tartan May 31, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ok boomer

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 4:58 PM

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It's OK my little zoomer. It will be fine, you'll see....

atomic tartan May 31, 2020, 4:59 PM

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fine for me, yes. for you? i wish i could say the same

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@wraith merlin no need for insults

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Let’s keep this chat tournament focused

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You’re straying from that

wraith merlin May 31, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@thorn shale I was clearly provoked. Nevertheless, you are right about that and I apologize from my part. I am ending this...

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 5:09 PM

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@atomic tartan thats off topic for this chat

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Anyone wanna answer what kind of tourneys are gonna come this season? It is qts or bronze silver and gold

gentle sierra May 31, 2020, 5:14 PM

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well that has been the case with every off-season , so i guess both

glass thunder May 31, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@thorn shale you better ask rexy or knopka

low badger May 31, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Blitz is actually imo really unfun as an esport to watch, not to mention you can't watch all the key games--so the content spread is more limited than usual.
Between wonky pacing, the scene as a whole, and the actual garbage rule set that allowed things like fbi/raid to do what they did, why even bother? I don't even know what kind of rewards you should garner from watching blitz, but often the games I want to watch, and the games wargaming sponsor are super conflicted. I hope maybe a Meta change makes the game exciting to watch, but then again a fast paced meta with 215b and foch was really miserable to play. So what am I supposed to say, blitz is boring?

I'd really rather watch a tier 1 esport than watch another blitz game in my life, unfortunately because I play the video game- I feel like I have to.

fast hareBOT May 31, 2020, 7:48 PM

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dynoSuccess Tigeralpha#6179 has been warned.

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 8:53 PM

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👀 atleast for me it, has it's moments.

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Definitely, especially if you are rooting for one side and have a competent commentator like R1B.

winter swallow May 31, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@wraith merlin I’m just gonna throw it out there... although your vernacular is exquisite, the grammatical and contextual execution is left wanting...

thorn shale May 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@chilly terrace sorry for the ping but I was wondering what kind of tourneys are we getting this season (qts or Bronze,Silver.Gold). Just wanted to figure out so we can come up with a schedule

wraith merlin Jun 1, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@winter swallow Thank you very much for the indirect insult! Your grammatical execution is exquisite. Your context though, cannot be tolerated by other people or even gaming companies...

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 6:59 AM

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@wraith merlin - In this instance, politely (potentially even humourously) framed constructive criticism was not intended as an insult. I unreservedly apologise for any offence caused.

@thorn shale - We will probably need to wait for WG to assess how things went this season before we get an answer to that question. Hopefully, the details are released sooner rather than later as it would also help our planning processes too.

wraith merlin Jun 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@RollingSwarm Your humorous skills are as good as my contextual skills. 😜 I can't accept any apologies for this instance, it was clearly a misunderstanding. Have a nice day Brian. No hard feelings mate...

obsidian vine Jun 1, 2020, 7:19 AM

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talking about nothing for hours on and off writing full paragraphs. I see this channel has not changed 1 bit. I’m Thoroughly impressed. 👍 #WorldOfTanksComplainers

shrewd iron Jun 1, 2020, 7:26 AM

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@obsidian vine oath

chilly terrace Jun 1, 2020, 8:00 AM

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@chilly terrace we did get credit from coins tournament but not coins
@glass thunder Coins might be sent a bit later than credits.

rocky crystal Jun 1, 2020, 8:04 AM

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You should be able to get a specific avatar for the amount of tournaments you play or won etc, the tourney rewards, in general are small. You literally just get credits... Things such as 1K free xp or 100 gold should be also rewarded as well, not a huge amount but a small amount would help alot and get more people interested in tourneys and put in the effort. ( Im talking about regular tourneys, not spring season or twister etc )

chilly terrace Jun 1, 2020, 8:06 AM

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@versed field wg rejected the Red Bull order because Sandisk was already the title sponsor. Sandisk also promised us flash drives which we never got so that was cool
@chilly hemlock
I don't know where does your information coming from, but this statement has nothing to do with reality.

wet tide Jun 1, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Maybe smthing like gold certificates and free exp certificates, if u get to tour 5 you’ll receive X parts of a gold certificate and the same for free exp

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 8:13 AM

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@obsidian vine Discussion is always useful, striving toward improvement 😃

I really like the idea of cumulative Avatars for Tournament battles - could maybe have different series depending in Tournament tier? Would be a nice touch and WG clearly has a soft spot for avatars these days 😆

chilly terrace Jun 1, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Anyone wanna answer what kind of tourneys are gonna come this season? It is qts or bronze silver and gold
@thorn shale
There will be only Quick Tournaments in June

severe ermine Jun 1, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Can professionals tickets earnt this year be used next year? 🤔

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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@severe ermine I was informed by R1B that tickets from Ascents carried across all seasons since their conceptual inception.

@thorn shale ?

severe ermine Jun 1, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Thanks Brian 😳

pastel tartan Jun 1, 2020, 9:28 AM

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@frosty nexus or @chilly terrace is it possible to acquire info for the quick tournament schedule apart from what is shown ingame? i've got something planned for which that information is highly needed. an answer im PM is also possible
best regards

chilly terrace Jun 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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@frosty nexus or @chilly terrace is it possible to acquire info for the quick tournament schedule apart from what is shown ingame? i've got something planned for which that information is highly needed. an answer im PM is also possible
best regards
@pastel tartan The same time on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays. The first will be on Wednesday.

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@chilly terrace so Red Bull has never looked to sponsor an offline?

chilly terrace Jun 1, 2020, 11:51 AM

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@chilly terrace so Red Bull has never looked to sponsor an offline?
@chilly hemlock
We don't share similar information, because all our arrangements or the lack of arrangements with any partner is not public information.

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Multiple clans have heard otherwise but okay

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Imagine declining Red Bull, arguably one of the best sports/esports sponsors in the world. Not even WG would be that senseless.

turbid sinew Jun 1, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Yeah gimme t22

thorn shale Jun 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Just give some unique CW tier X tank and all of us would be thankful

severe ermine Jun 1, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Preferably one that isn't a meta tank

pallid raven Jun 1, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Add the premium Foch

Tbh, it would annoy the tank collectors, if it's only available in tournament's, unless it's "easily" available... (Ofc not too easy)

thorn shale Jun 1, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Pls just add a tank that its worth... would be epic reward for those that make it far into the highest positions

thorn shale Jun 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Monster ernegy better than redbull

burnt glacier Jun 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@thorn shale Monster is the most trash.E-on much better

thorn shale Jun 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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🤮

glass thunder Jun 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@thorn shale than all start to cry like wot because op players got op rewards tanks

thorn shale Jun 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Who cares lol xD. If they worked as hard as a lot of teams to get into top 8 they wouldn’t complain.

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Unique tournament rewards would be good. IS6 fearless from ratings a great first step to reward performance (which is result of dedicated and intense playing) - literally, if you make tournaments more rewarding, people will spend more time playing the game to get better at it.

Don't make the rewards OP - but do make them meaningful. Vary the avatars and pro camos. Bring in marks of excellence. Have unique TIER X camos. And I am sorry. I don't buy the excuses about game size etc. - there are so many avatars and items of equipment and random little charms and trinkets in our garages etc. . Besides, on Android you can literally choose to not download non-essential game resources.

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@winter swallow I raised the point before spring season that everyone is tired of the same pro season camos for the last 3 years

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New colors or designs or whatever seems like it is very doable

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Black and white inverted skins would look sick

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Or green and purpl

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Yellow and pink

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Goes on and on

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Tier x reward tanks only increase the gap between elite teams and good teams by having exclusive tanks. The tanks btw don’t even have to be good for it to be unfair. Just one team having something that the other doesn’t by itself is enough

winter swallow Jun 1, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I don't have one and even I'm bored of them to the point where they don't interest me. It's like, oh look - there's that kinda bland orange/blue pattern camo you see fairly frequently in Tier X games. Maybe it's a good player or maybe it is someone that donated a ticket to a team so they could qualify to get into the Professional Series so that team gave them a spot on their roster to say thanks for helping them cheat the system... 👍

Like, even the actual pro players treat it like trash now so God knows what the average-Joe player thinks 😂

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I put the blue one on all my tanks in 2018 spring season. Haven’t changed it since unless I get a legendary skin

spiral arch Jun 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Or WG could develop and release any one of those tanks for $$$$$. What do you think they will do? Raik was being realistic in his request.

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@thorn shale you must not have read anything I said

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Aesthetic only is the way to go

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Because elite clans don’t need exclusive tanks

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It just makes them more versatile then anyone else when they are already the best

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Bruh. Those players would use those tanks in tournaments

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And if the tank isn’t good enough for tournaments, it wouldn’t get a ton of usage in pubs

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Make the super conqueror a reward tank

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And only top 4 in springs season get them

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That’s ludicrous

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Tier x doesn’t need more to pollute it

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T-22s, do it enough

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Not to mention the mk6, 121b, 30b, badger, 111 5a, t95e6

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You’re giving the best players on the server, tools that no one else gets to use and you think that’s a good idea. Hilarious

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Tier x is supposed to be the pinnacle of the game. The on,h tier where you can’t just use mommy’s credit card right away

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There has been two reward tanks in all of na since 2015. Tankenstein and is6 fearless

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Tournament numbers from what I can see are going down. Most clans know they’d never win these tanks either if it’s only top 8 clans etc

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Shocker. Someone making the exact same point i did

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Why would anyone want an exclusive tank that isn’t good?

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How is that useful in any way?

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Give me a camo that no one else can buy to show off my teams skill

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That’s what was originally special about the pro camos

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Only 8 teams get them and you can put them on ANY TANK

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We started “talking” 10 minutes ago lol

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@void wadi no you’re fine. I’m glad you confirmed my point lol

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@thorn shale if you have a t34-85 victory, why would you want a t34-85?

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The victory is an identical tank but with better credit making

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Aka. Why do I want a worse tank?

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Cromwell b vs the standard Cromwell?

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So you play the t34-85 and t34-85 victory the same amount?

spiral arch Jun 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Pretty much the same but better in every way? LOL. A better analogy would be the IS6 and the IS6 Fearless. They are IDENTICAL. If you have both then there is no reason to play the IS6.

chilly hemlock Jun 1, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Because the camo makes the is6 fearless cooler

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Like I said. Aesthetics

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The is6 fearless is a great reward tank because anyone can BUY an is6. Not everyone can EARN an is6 fearless

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It’s also in tier 8 where no one really cares how broken a tank is

fathom tiger Jun 1, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Ok

severe ermine Jun 1, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I guess we need a T-22 Fearless now 🤡

thorn shale Jun 2, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Since spring season is over will there be tier 6 tournaments on Friday again? (NA server)

low badger Jun 2, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I don't know what rewards entice me to play anymore, I have 15k gold, the all the prems I need, barring the T95E6 :v 1m free xp and 60m credits. So most of the time I just play comp for my friends.

I really want good camos from comp (I already got pro camos and probably 5 credits for compensation for it) but at the same time I don't care enough for it.

Really the last thing I was excited to buy from wg was the anime avatars, so more of that would be fantastic. Throw in a missle removal and I'll feel great.

For camos, I would just steal whatever hot csgo skin is on sale and make it your own. I would love to see my Blitz earnings Tiger Tooth Karambit in blitz, plus blitz coming up with an original idea is practically unheard of anyways, so you may as well.

latent olive Jun 2, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Maybe WG could ask the Top 8 clans on each server what they would like to see as rewards - other than cash ofc

pallid raven Jun 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Sadly Wargaming, will take their suggestions, and put it straight into the trash.

glass thunder Jun 2, 2020, 9:58 AM

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After they did remove atgm's and change tournaments format + ban prem tanks from tournaments
Players try to bring rewards tanks

pallid raven Jun 2, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Also where is @latent olive youtuber role? @lime glen

chilly hemlock Jun 2, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Taken care of

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@glass thunder honestly preach that

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Tier x should be the pinnacle of the game where everyone is on the same equal level. No t-22s, chieftains, badgers etc to give one team added flexibility over another

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Look to csgo, rocket league and dare I say it, fortnite. All are enormous games that have purely visual and aesthetic items, skins etc

glass thunder Jun 2, 2020, 11:43 AM

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and no one cry about skins cause they don't give advantage not like some prem tanks

chilly hemlock Jun 2, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Which is why I want new spring and pro season camos

thorn shale Jun 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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badger giving advantage lmao

winter swallow Jun 2, 2020, 12:10 PM

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@chilly hemlock Absolutely agreed. You cannot make a viable esport from a game where in-game items/equipment are locked behind a pay-wall. Even if something locked in such a manner is not outright OP/P2W, it offers unique possibilities to teams that can afford it. In the case of the T-22 and Twister 2019 however, we can see the Blitz 100% has Pay-2-Win vehicles in it (just like WoT PC).

chilly hemlock Jun 2, 2020, 12:11 PM

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It’s not about every individual tank. It’s not a matter of if it is good or bad. The problem is I have a tank that you don’t @thorn shale

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And mom’s credit card isn’t a good enough reason for that

winter swallow Jun 2, 2020, 12:31 PM

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^ this is particularly true of Blitz - because rarely is one vehicle able to best all others in the majority of situations - but for example, the T-22 is so unique and powerful, that teams with it can do different things compared to teams that don't have it. It's this kind of blatant disregard for game integrity that will keep WG titles scrapping the barrel of esports for leftovers from genuinely well-designed and targeted esports titles.

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WG will try and tell you the T-22 isn't OP or P2W, but let's just quickly recall they are still trying to catch-up with conclusions re: ATGMs that the tournament community had made in December 2019. There's too much face that needs saving for WG to make an objective call about anything game related.

(saved a screen of this comment in case it gets deleted)

thorn shale Jun 2, 2020, 2:17 PM

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nice

chilly hemlock Jun 2, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@winter swallow that’s why they keep silently nerfing it

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The spaced armor on the sides keeps being reduced lol

winter swallow Jun 2, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Aaaah. Thought I was bouncing less shots 😆

tropic lotus Jun 2, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@chilly hemlock They’ve reduced the spaced armor? Can I find that on Blitzhangar or somewhere else that would show that either visually or just on its own?

chilly hemlock Jun 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I’ll check

glass thunder Jun 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i did check once i forgot when and yes they did nerf it and that time we did post pictures about it here

bold bobcat Jun 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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sa

winter swallow Jun 3, 2020, 6:10 AM

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WG: T-22 is not overpowered.

Also WG: Better reduce the spaced armour for absolutely no reason whatsoever definitely not because it is overpowered.

Anyways - on to tournaments - is anyone actually playing the interim tournaments currently being rolled out by WG or is everyone just scrimmaging/chilling?

upper oar Jun 3, 2020, 6:14 AM

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its hiatus time for many tournament players

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and for top clans, everyone wants a break

winter swallow Jun 3, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Not on EU lol

cobalt panther Jun 3, 2020, 7:21 AM

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The chieftain is fine tbh, in tournaments 90% of the players should be able to pen your cupola, I would be more scared of a T110e5 on a ridge. The T-22 on the other hand, is completely bollocks with the armor layout. Just a few mm less armor on side and turret roof (like pc) and it would be balanced

merry pelican Jun 3, 2020, 7:25 AM

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oj

timber glen Jun 3, 2020, 7:49 AM

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WG: T-22 is not overpowered.

Also WG: Better reduce the spaced armour for absolutely no reason whatsoever definitely not because it is overpowered.

Anyways - on to tournaments - is anyone actually playing the interim tournaments currently being rolled out by WG or is everyone just scrimmaging/chilling?
@winter swallow on NA we be chilling in tourneys

slate idol Jun 3, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Looking for a team for the VII-VIII tournament EU

graceful jetty Jun 3, 2020, 11:22 AM

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#tourneys-team-search

waxen palm Jun 3, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I need 2 players for tourney at 3 o'clock VII-VIII (team= PanzerDivision) thx

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My pseudo in game : ML666ml
I am not connected now

waxen palm Jun 3, 2020, 12:01 PM

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@slate idol I can recriut you

dull dragon Jun 3, 2020, 12:09 PM

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@winter swallow @chilly hemlock i couldnt agree more. How would you feel about tournaments without these tanks... i might have something for you

tropic lotus Jun 3, 2020, 2:10 PM

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@winter swallow on NA something interesting is being thrown together in terms of a new team

winter swallow Jun 3, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I probably know

pale finch Jun 3, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@tropic lotus care to elaborate?

chilly hemlock Jun 3, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@dull dragon wg should just make premiums and collector tanks unable to be used for tournaments in the first place

silver vapor Jun 3, 2020, 2:51 PM

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which is something that they refuse to do

we be going in loops

dull dragon Jun 3, 2020, 2:52 PM

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@chilly hemlock I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately unlikely gonna happen

rocky crystal Jun 3, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Its a joke in Tier 8 tourneys, all you see is 252u Spam while my team only have IS5s, then they get Wz120 and destroys our mediums as the tank is quick enough to get to the med flank.

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Also @chilly hemlock I definitely agree with you, but at the end itll make WG less profits as you cant use a Prem tank in Tourneys so ppl dont find the point of buying prem tanks for tourney like 252u etc (252u is an Example)

atomic tartan Jun 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Pull out the Tiger IIs. Wyd

thorn shale Jun 3, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Also @chilly hemlock itll make WG less profits as you cant use a Prem tank in Tourneys so ppl dont find the point of buying prem tanks for tourney like 252u etc
@rocky crystal Is5s are a perfectly good counter for the Wz OP tings. Dont fight troll armor with meds

atomic tartan Jun 3, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Tier 8 is a mess I honestly dont even know what to say about it. I swear by this point theres probably more premiums than there is tech tree tier 8s. At least it feels like it every time a qt happens

dreamy shore Jun 3, 2020, 9:05 PM

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If this has been asked forgive me. Is spectator mode available for tonight tournament?

thorn shale Jun 3, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@winter swallow on NA we be chilling in tourneys
@timber glen true. On NA server the players chill on tournaments.

timber glen Jun 3, 2020, 10:49 PM

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@timber glen true. On NA server the players chill on tournaments.
@thorn shale tbh during off season we just sit around and talk about tanks even during off season tourneys

obsidian vine Jun 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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@tropic lotus InTeReStInG TeAm

proud holly Jun 4, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Fix spectator mode

vital obsidian Jun 4, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Hopefully spec mode will be fixed with update. It is extremely annoying and useless with no possibility to spec

glass thunder Jun 4, 2020, 10:55 AM

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🤦‍♀️ my message about rooms chat was deleted , weird that tournament related cause teams need to train for tournaments
and this bug cause lot of problems for us

chilly terrace Jun 4, 2020, 11:07 AM

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🤦‍♀️ my message about rooms chat was deleted , weird that tournament related cause teams need to train for tournaments
and this bug cause lot of problems for us
@glass thunder
I can call any problem "tournament related" in this way. For example, "I haven't slept well today but there is tournament tonight and I can't play well". Please, follow the topic. We are discussing tournaments here.

glass thunder Jun 4, 2020, 11:26 AM

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👍 sure

thorn shale Jun 4, 2020, 1:14 PM

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When will the spectator mode come back? It’s very annoying as our teammates can’t see the match and experience what happened by looking over our mistakes. Could you ensure that it won’t become a problem again if it is taking a while to come back? @chilly terrace

chilly terrace Jun 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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When will the spectator mode come back? It’s very annoying as our teammates can’t see the match and experience what happened by looking over our mistakes
@thorn shale Definitely not soon. I can't provide any specific dates.

severe ermine Jun 4, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Shouldn't it be a simple fix? Or do you need to overhaul the tourney system to fix it?

vital obsidian Jun 4, 2020, 2:20 PM

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If there would be a voting on improvements needed for tournaments I am pretty sure spec mode fix would be on top of many cw players list

devout eagle Jun 4, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Hi

thorn shale Jun 4, 2020, 11:40 PM

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@chilly terrace why was the spectator mode removed from QTs? I have played numerous tourneys with spectators on both sides and it didn't seem like any team had an advantage.

carmine solstice Jun 5, 2020, 12:47 AM

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If you’re going to disallow spectating in the future, surely it’s reasonable to allow players to leave the tourney room and play a random or rating battle. It’s not really fair to make people sit for up to 8 minutes (wait times between battle + game time) literally doing nothing...

shrewd iron Jun 5, 2020, 4:16 AM

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@thorn shale what advantage? Both teams were getting spectators so it's equally advantageous which makes it fair 🤷‍♂️

chilly terrace Jun 5, 2020, 6:52 AM

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@chilly terrace why was the spectator mode removed from QTs? I have played numerous tourneys with spectators on both sides and it didn't seem like any team had an advantage.
@thorn shale
It isn't related to advantage or disadvantage of some team. There are some issues with spectator mode and they are being fixed now.

winter swallow Jun 5, 2020, 7:05 AM

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@chilly terrace I think it would be good to get spectator mode back into QTs as this is very useful to help teams train and learn more effectively. Does WG know/realise that some teams use spectator mode for the team commander?

oak veldt Jun 5, 2020, 7:10 AM

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itll probs be back when its fixed or smth

winter swallow Jun 5, 2020, 7:22 AM

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@oak veldt of course - I am just providing another comment/voice saying this is a good thing to help improve its priority.

oak veldt Jun 5, 2020, 7:22 AM

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yep fair enough

vital obsidian Jun 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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@chilly terrace that is great news you work now on fixing spec mode 👍

chilly hemlock Jun 5, 2020, 11:42 AM

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@chilly terrace when will the banners update for spring season?

chilly terrace Jun 5, 2020, 12:04 PM

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@chilly hemlock In July

marble narwhal Jun 5, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Imagine playing tournaments

chilly hemlock Jun 5, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Uh okay

tribal skiff Jun 5, 2020, 3:38 PM

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I don’t have to imagine it though

proud holly Jun 5, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah I’m farming silver instead 😎😎😎

~~becuz I’m broke as hell~~

thorn shale Jun 5, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Are there gonna be any actual tourneys this season?

glass thunder Jun 5, 2020, 11:54 PM

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@thorn shale rexy said only quick tournaments this month

thorn shale Jun 5, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Alright

tropic lotus Jun 6, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Having issue with tourneys

thorn shale Jun 6, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Yeah same

alpine shard Jun 6, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I’d like to blame pickle for said difficulties

blissful wyvern Jun 6, 2020, 3:21 AM

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hello TANKWORLD

obsidian vine Jun 6, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Any name that has a pickle in it on NA sever has difficulties

chilly hemlock Jun 6, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@blissful wyvern you might be lost. This is World of Tanks. Not Tankworld

untold ravine Jun 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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XD

blissful wyvern Jun 6, 2020, 6:10 PM

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LOL

narrow meteor Jun 6, 2020, 10:07 PM

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@winter swallow your showing a lot of interest into the game. Does this signify a possible return to commenting? (please say yes)

vital obsidian Jun 7, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Say yes

thorn shale Jun 7, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Warned for topic unrelated to tournaments xD. Byw when do we get tournaments counting towards the clan leaderboards again?

solar sedge Jun 7, 2020, 11:20 AM

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y did WG remove the spec mode in tours?

shrewd iron Jun 7, 2020, 11:27 AM

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They're fixing it apparently

winter swallow Jun 7, 2020, 11:41 AM

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@narrow meteor I continue to enjoy playing the game as before, but I will not be returning to tournament commentary/content creation.

toxic niche Jun 7, 2020, 12:25 PM

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@vague swallow @shell flume @thorn shale @regal frost @uneven citrus @thorn shale Good morning people!
I would like to know if it is very difficult to put the viewer mode in all tournaments?

does WG forget that their game is a team game and that their tournament rules allow 9 players to sign up? but unfortunately 2 are left out sucking their fingers without even being able to watch their companions! If this was supposed to be a team game it is not clear where it fits !, it is a lack of respect for all players !!! trying to use wotb.

I hope you think about it!

thank you

solar sedge Jun 7, 2020, 12:40 PM

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☝️

arctic axle Jun 7, 2020, 1:24 PM

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@toxic niche well you can register a team with only 7 players so just do that

molten gale Jun 7, 2020, 1:28 PM

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#protip

toxic niche Jun 7, 2020, 2:06 PM

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@arctic axle OK ! so do you guarantee my team that none of them will have any connection problems or anything else so that these 7 remain in the match? of course not !! in the tournament on wednesday 06/03 two brothers from my team "BRUP" left the game because there was a power outage where they live, the two reserves entered and my team still managed to finish the competition, and we won !!! now you want us who suffer from this error of inequality in the game in which some players have this viewer mode and others we will not have to play with the missing team? correct one mistake with another! a lot of stupidity!

arctic axle Jun 7, 2020, 2:12 PM

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@toxic niche well that is a risk you are going to have to take. You either have 2 players doing nothing, or you risk people having connection issues. Just deal with it

toxic niche Jun 7, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@arctic axle
kkkkkkk wow how interesting! first; that I don't have 2 players doing nothing! the game itself is letting them do nothing, second; if to take a risk and we have to deal with it, why no longer limit the registration to 7 players ?. nobody is more or less important in this. if it is a team game and has reservations because the game itself allowed it, why they cannot see the game and analyze seeing the errors with the team .. you say like you didn't even care what happens with the game .. unless be for the amounts spent by the players or by the idiots that is probably how the WG is treating us .. because I raise this question doesn’t come from today .. if it isn’t to take teamwork seriously because the game is 7x7 why is there professional troneons? if it is to be like that, don't turn around and play in the 5x7. better to end this 2 team and evaluate a Battle Royale at least so the WR will do for something.

pale finch Jun 7, 2020, 2:31 PM

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cringe

fallow raptor Jun 7, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@toxic niche you do know that WG has said they are working on fixing the spec mode? And that yes they can't give a confirmed date but they acknowledge it.

vital obsidian Jun 7, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i think someone is sarcastic

toxic niche Jun 7, 2020, 2:35 PM

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@fallow raptor since last year! and it's already June. outside that at the beginning of the year he had a tournament without being a professional with the viewer mode.

vital obsidian Jun 7, 2020, 2:39 PM

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spec mode has been on and off for the whole duration of present style tours, it keep crashing every 2-3 months and it takes 2-3 months to fix 🤷‍♀️ thats just the way it is. So for now, we are just getting out of the bug period, and we can soon enjoy spec mode the whole summer 🌞

atomic tartan Jun 7, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Whats the matter with you people?

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fallow raptor Jun 7, 2020, 2:42 PM

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@toxic niche since January last year? That's what ur claiming that spec mode has been broken for 18months? I doubt so

arctic axle Jun 7, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@toxic niche if you don't want to run into such problems STOP PLAYING TOURNAMENTS ... at least for the meanwhile

vital obsidian Jun 7, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Dont blame the messengers dear mods, its just a sign that it is important to be able to spec and its great wg now work on it 👍

arctic axle Jun 7, 2020, 2:55 PM

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^^^yes. So let wg work on it instead of pressuring them

toxic niche Jun 7, 2020, 2:58 PM

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@fallow raptor
I didn’t say January but last year, the exact month I don’t remember, but since I came back to participate in the tournaments, only one event was broadcast and that year.

gentle sierra Jun 7, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Just because you came back now and spectators are not allowed in qts doesn't mean that has been the case since then , they disabled spectators and you can find the message in pinned messages , as Rexy said they are trying to fix some issues and they will allow them again in the future

thorn shale Jun 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@toxic niche if you don't want to run into such problems STOP PLAYING TOURNAMENTS ... at least for the meanwhile
@arctic axle Its literally stated in Pinned Messages that this feature was removed indefinitely. You can keep asking as much as you want but the answer doesn't seem like it will change any time soon unfortunately, as Rsevik said just stick to 7 player line-ups

If you have more than 7 just rotate out the lowest damage player from every game

severe ermine Jun 7, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I'm still confused why fixing this problem takes so long 🤔

livid galleon Jun 8, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I agree with chobham.
Spectator mode was working perfectly fine before it was removed, and now it's been gone for 3 months with no detailed explanation.
At this point, I'm suspecting that spectator mode accidentally buffs the ru 251 armour thickness to 700mm and noone at wargaming knows why.

tribal skiff Jun 8, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It’s not impossible

proud holly Jun 8, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Is the tourney camo? If so, how to get it.

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vagrant phoenix Jun 8, 2020, 3:19 AM

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not obtainable currently

proud holly Jun 8, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Darn

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 5:38 AM

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It was for watching the Twister 2019 offline I believe

winter swallow Jun 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Correct - ish. It was a reward for earning season coins. So included onlines as well.

upper oar Jun 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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you had to watch 5/6 hours of the Twister stream to get it

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and actually, players that live tested during the year also received three certificates of it as well. so the most someone could have is four certificates of it

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why someone would waste it on a 4202, don’t ask me :))

graceful jetty Jun 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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@arctic axle Its literally stated in Pinned Messages that this feature was removed indefinitely. You can keep asking as much as you want but the answer doesn't seem like it will change any time soon unfortunately, as Rsevik said just stick to 7 player line-ups

If you have more than 7 just rotate out the lowest damage player from every game
@thorn shale removed for an indefinite time as in they dont know how long it will take for them to fix it.. removed indefinitely and removed for an indefinite time have very different meanings

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 8:40 AM

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Yes excuse my English.

blazing hatch Jun 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Hello there ! I don't really know where to ask that question to be honest but I'm a news writer in the Esports for a Belgian company, and I was wondering about the esport scene in WoT Blitz. Is there a real scene like teams staying and contracts payed ? Is it established already as I am really interested in it I was wondering ^^ I already had a few answers about some big clan names, but could you maybe give me some player names ? Or coaches or whatever ? Thanks by advance !

winter swallow Jun 8, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Press D to doubt. But you could always speak to @leaden belfry as a key tournament piece.

leaden belfry Jun 8, 2020, 8:11 PM

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D

crude mesa Jun 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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@blazing hatch I can give you a few big player names. Just a few though because I need to go run some errands.

iraikkonen (NA)
Pantouflee (EU)
ChipotleIsLife23 (NA)
A7XO (NA)
_tanner (NA)
Dark_Magician_Girl (NA)
ImAFreakingGenuis (NA)
_Glory (NA)
_Titanium (NA)
AzorAhai (NA)
_Emmy (NA)
_Legundo (NA)
_DragonKRIEG (NA)
Racketeers (NA)
Ramranchitrocks
_Fishy (NA)
Droodles (Mostly just a commentator but can still play if required.) (NA)

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Does anybody mind explaining why exactly teams preffer the t110e5 instead of the Chief in tournaments? Personally I preffer the Chief as a tank but it isn't used much so I'm obviously missing something here...

atomic tartan Jun 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Consumables
HEAT pen
Armor is way better, more hp = better durability overall

blazing hatch Jun 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@blazing hatch I can give you a few big player names. Just a few though because I need to go run some errands.

iraikkonen (NA)
Pantouflee (EU)
ChipotleIsLife23 (NA)
A7XO (NA)
_tanner (NA)
Dark_Magician_Girl (NA)
ImAFreakingGenuis (NA)
_Glory (NA)
_Titanium (NA)
AzorAhai (NA)
_Emmy (NA)
_Legundo (NA)
Racketeers (NA)
_Fishy (NA)
Droodles (Mostly just a commentator but can still play if required.) (NA)
@crude mesa Thanks a lot ! :D Are they on this Discord ? Alright thanks. I'mma just @ them. (Kiddin) @azure pecan Nice ! Well just looking for teams and players to understand the "pro scene" but I already have a few answers! :)

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Raikkonen and pantouflee are in the others I have no idea

crude mesa Jun 8, 2020, 9:45 PM

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AzorAhai is a mod, droodles is here, fishy is here, i think DMG is here.

azure pecan Jun 8, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@blazing hatch what are you looking for ?
I might help im french as well

atomic tartan Jun 8, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@chilly hemlock @flat goblet interview ready

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Consumables

HEAT pen

Armor is way better, more hp = better durability overall
@atomic tartan Chief has more HP but outside of that you are right. Guess it comes down to feel factor, Penetration > DPM.

Thanks

azure pecan Jun 8, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@thorn shale chieftain is just a worse med when u face good player
I would Say its a too bad mixe of med and heavy:
It has med armor but heavy tank max speed
Med penetration with heavy gun

I mean, its like if u take all the disadvantages of med and disadvantages of an heavy and put them on one tank.

To be clear, all meds are better than chieftain for a med job, and all heavys are better than chieftain for an heavy job

(Not linked to random battles at all)

crude mesa Jun 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Chieftain mk6 is really good nowhere near a “worse med”

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 9:52 PM

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e5 is more reliable for tournament play in almost everything

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@azure pecan Idk, in plenty of the tournament battles I play a chieftain would be just as good if not better than an e5. I don't see e5's bounce all that often, so you might as well take a chief and use your improved DPM. Besides the speed without consumables is better than that of the e5. All I can really see is that e5 is overall a bit more flexible (although not better but thats just imo).

Outside of this most positions a good leader will put you in won't need 10 degrees of depression, 8 degrees seems more than enough so you might as well take the e5s flexibility but to be honest I see a lot of positions where Chieftains could do better than e5s, even though I still feel they would be a niche pick.

In summary e5 is more suitable but I feel that a lot of the positions e5s are spammed in could use a chieftain and it would be more effective there.

chilly hemlock Jun 8, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@atomic tartan you should be listed alongside Moe

crude mesa Jun 8, 2020, 9:59 PM

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ill put em down there dragon is on the list now

azure pecan Jun 8, 2020, 10:01 PM

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@thorn shale i played at all levels more or less and now im sitting in my first clan ever (nov4, we faced ur clan today)
I still dont understand what do you mean with that chieftain ? All these positions where u judge the chieftain better than e5, isnt a med like stb1 even better ?

thorn shale Jun 8, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@azure pecan Technically yes, an stb1 would be better but you might as well take a chieftain for the hp and make use of the extra 500 hp compared to the stb1 in exchange for 200 dpm. I know you are good mate, I was joking ;), anyways you and I both know the life expectancy of a tank in CW as soon as the brawl starts isnt much longer than a minute and a half (with exception of Maus) so you might as well take the HP and armor and try to stretch it out. But yeah, even Stb 1 is a better alternative to e5 in a lot of places.

I really just feel that teams pick e5 unnecessarily in some situations. Btw who won the training? 😄 I couldnt play 😦

@thorn shale Mayan Ruins for example, check Fugit's Blitz streams on YT

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Where you pro clans use the maus mostly ? What maps

Thank you 👍

azure pecan Jun 8, 2020, 10:09 PM

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@thorn shale yeah chieftain has 500hp now but it is less armored than t22 or stb for now (: i think it should be a bit more used but just in sneaky pos. if we talk about dpm we generally take fv or 113 as an heavy dpm
And we won that training but that was interesting for us, we were able to point out our weakness

tribal skiff Jun 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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I prefer the MK6 for public, because of the DPM and HESH. But the E5’s superior armor, HP, and pen make it a much better tournament tank

harsh ember Jun 9, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@atomic tartan how do you feel about being on the same list as droodles and pantouf

tribal skiff Jun 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@thorn shale the E5 gets sandbags. 2645 HP with double provisions and the HP buff equipment compared to the MK6 getting 2491 with the HP equipment

upper oar Jun 9, 2020, 1:05 AM

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@atomic tartan how do you feel about being on the same list as droodles and pantouf
@harsh ember and legendo

obsidian vine Jun 9, 2020, 2:29 AM

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lol what does he mean? big names and public status or big players who are top of the sever skill wise. Because that list has players from both of those areas lol and some in neither but.....

ember turret Jun 9, 2020, 2:35 AM

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@crude mesa Why thank you I'm honored, sort've. @blazing hatch I'm also here.

dull dragon Jun 9, 2020, 2:49 AM

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@blazing hatch if u wanna talk to EU CW members just give me a PM

woven meadow Jun 9, 2020, 2:52 AM

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@atomic tartan how do you feel about being on the same list as droodles and pantouf
@harsh ember ikr they all better than him

glass thunder Jun 9, 2020, 7:44 AM

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@azure pecan i need help

azure pecan Jun 9, 2020, 8:04 AM

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@glass thunder

blazing hatch Jun 9, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@ember turret Yes of course! Wanna DM or not?

winter swallow Jun 9, 2020, 12:06 PM

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I didn't run the numbers - but how about an MM seeding system like this for major tournament series played at Tier X.

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Seeding should only consider accounts based on that account's Tier X tanks with Y number of battles played minimum per tank (I'd say 50-100) - after 5,000 battles total played on the account. Anything below this threshold should be assigned neutral. Teams should require 7/10 players assess-able in order to avoid scoring neutral overall.

Then... use the following formula to seed players, with teams being their average of this excluding neutrals.

(Tier X global average WR x Tier X global average damage) + (Tier X 60 day average WR x Tier X 60 day average damage)

The system should announced at least 74 days before tournament commences. The 60 day stats should also reflect the condition of requiring a minimum number of battles to score, and should only consider regular battles played solo (i.e. excluding platoons).

versed field Jun 9, 2020, 12:50 PM

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👆

severe ermine Jun 9, 2020, 2:04 PM

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@thorn shale chieftain is really easy to focus down because of the predictable armour profile. It's sides are also paper thin and cannot be used to sidescrape. E5 on the other hand has quite a weird yet strong armour profile and if you factor in the consumables there's no contest.

atomic tartan Jun 9, 2020, 2:33 PM

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It really just comes down to the fact that positioning only matters so much in a comp game. Yes maybe your chieftain will be a better tank for that spot maybe you’ll have higher dpm maybe your -10 gives you one shot on someone that didn’t expect it but once you’re required to play outside that spot and the brawl begins you’ll die like a rat when they focus the dpm tanks first, but E5 can reactive then super speed out of there. Its just far more durable and a better choice overall for the whole game

winter swallow Jun 9, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Mk6 turret is too easy to HE. It cannot hold a ridgeline in comp to save its life. Literally.

gleaming pollen Jun 9, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Easiest cupola to hit

fathom tiger Jun 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

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The turret itself is also weaker

civic glacier Jun 9, 2020, 4:17 PM

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You don’t even have to HE. It’s an easy pen with AP

thorn shale Jun 9, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Why is everyone hating on platoon winrate. It's solo win % that is random and in platoon you can get 80%+ if you're good at ease. Platoon should be counted, not solo one.

atomic tartan Jun 9, 2020, 4:46 PM

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And if you’re good, you should get high solo winrates without another good player helping you too

glass thunder Jun 9, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yes platoon wr is good value its a team work game after all
and rank should allow toons and why not full team for rank like others games (csgo , lol .... ) i think playing with friends better than play with random players with 0 team work

atomic tartan Jun 9, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Yes you know what else could work? Lets also have a tier 10 toon with a tier 9, have two buddies on dead alts in Maus and Mauschen, then join queues together

civic glacier Jun 9, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Moche lol

obsidian vine Jun 9, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Ayo Moche is pro Afk farmer

harsh ember Jun 9, 2020, 8:14 PM

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it truly does take skill to shoot AFK tanks

ember turret Jun 9, 2020, 10:33 PM

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^ Sometimes you bounce them, OP anglers

sweet flax Jun 10, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Nah that's just you

ember turret Jun 10, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I sometimes close my eyes

glass thunder Jun 10, 2020, 2:05 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GT1xbI8fa8
a tournament without missiles that really great

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fathom tiger Jun 10, 2020, 2:30 PM

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what's wrong with missles

glass thunder Jun 10, 2020, 3:03 PM

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the Missiles

thorn shale Jun 10, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Meh sheri won’t be as useful anymore since it is losing so much speed. The missiles won’t be as effective anymore. Thus, causing sheri to practically be removed from the meta @eternal niche I’m not. Especially in pubs, it can’t shoot my side for 560 alpha and just run away before my turret locks onto it. That really pissed me off. But now they can suffer

eternal niche Jun 10, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Dont think anyone will miss the sheridan spam

tropic lotus Jun 10, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Is there an article where it explains how team we seeding is determined in tournaments?

upper oar Jun 10, 2020, 5:55 PM

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pretty sure its just flat out career winrate

proud holly Jun 10, 2020, 10:27 PM

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hm

livid galleon Jun 11, 2020, 4:52 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603078087155908648/720476467959693323/RPReplay_Final1591844654.mov

▶ Play video

obsidian vine Jun 11, 2020, 5:14 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393961686194716682/720485182011998338/video0.mov

▶ Play video

gentle sierra Jun 11, 2020, 5:20 AM

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😂 😂 😂

zealous hearth Jun 11, 2020, 7:20 AM

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That’s some scary stuff

sweet flax Jun 11, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Absolutely nuked him

leaden belfry Jun 11, 2020, 8:05 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/perfectly-balanced-thanos-infinity-war-gif-13078930

Tenor

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🙃

zealous hearth Jun 11, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Smh

silver vapor Jun 11, 2020, 8:36 AM

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congrats you missed the point of that video

leaden belfry Jun 11, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I think he missed both the point of the video and the point of my reaction >.>

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The fact that the E100 went to a bad spot does not in any way imply the Sherridan isn't broken

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none of them had to show themselves for more than a fraction to fire their missiles and I think had the E100 been in snipermode, he wouldn't have been able to return fire at any of them

silver vapor Jun 11, 2020, 8:50 AM

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even if that wasn't an E100, I doubt any other tank would've seen it coming. in fact only Light tanks with good camo and with missiles can pull off that act because if you do it in other tank you'd have to push up out of the pit then shoot, which will render you exposed for a few seconds and you penetration might not even guarantee penetration against an E100.

median mason Jun 11, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Actually, e100 would survive that if Sheridan's were balanced as they are on wot PC

silver vapor Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 AM

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I meant on the other side. Replace the 7x Sheridans with 7x IS-7s or something. If you're yoloing you won't have a good time.

You do make a good point with the light tank camo though.
@arctic prawn yeah sure replace it with 7 IS-7 and you'll have all of them spotted by the E100, unless you all have level 7 camo skill + camo net all equipped and activated on IS-7. After you get through unspotted you need to work with that subpar gun depression which means pushing out of pit, then work with subpar gun handling + dispersion from 240 meters, then work with the subpar penetration. now go back to the drawing board and think of a better combo.

chilly terrace Jun 11, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I'm reading it and thinking how #tourneys-discussion can be read as #tank-balance-discussion.

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Actually, e100 would survive that if Sheridan's were balanced as they are on wot PC
@median mason You could have 7 of any other tank with 460 or even 400 alpha and the e100 would be dead. Don't confuse mistakes for vehicles performing well.

Anyways that clip sums up NA tournaments perfectly, chill.

median mason Jun 11, 2020, 9:39 AM

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I meant by that Sher (PC) isn't designed to pen heavy armored vehicles frontally. #endofofftop

low sorrel Jun 11, 2020, 11:54 AM

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@obsidian vine that was one of the first blitz moment that made me laugh

vital obsidian Jun 11, 2020, 1:21 PM

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with update 7.0 sherispam is hopefully wiped forever from tournaments

winter swallow Jun 11, 2020, 2:21 PM

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@thorn shale Platoon average damage can be engineered as has been amply demonstrated. For the purposes of best seeding players according to ability - platoon WR is misleading because it reflects ability of another person outside range of tournament seeding system calculations and as mentioned - the average damage can be rigged upward through platoons. It is therefore not fit for purpose.

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Then rip me, cause I only play in toon 😕

winter swallow Jun 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I'm reading it and thinking how #tourneys-discussion can be read as #tank-balance-discussion.
@chilly terrace - vehicle balance and meta discussions are extremely relevant topics of discussion to tournament players. I accept that to people that don't play tournaments/are not good at tournaments, it might not seem relevant - but that is part of the reason why the people discussing vehicle balances and meta here are high level tournament players and they aren't 😂

@arctic prawn ATGMs are the only shell type that can engage an enemy outside of Line of Sight - so yes, that sense, the videos above are unique 🙂

@thorn shale - there's nothing wrong with playing in platoon - but the problem is that doesn't accurately reflect your actual skill level as an individual, because your platoon mate(s) are controlled variable modifiers which influence both your win rate and average damage. Just go to BlitzStars and look at top 100 players over the last 30 days. It is not a coincidence that the majority have very high platoon ratios for that period. - so of course for tournament seeding, being able to exclude or counter-balance platoon games would be required.

chilly hemlock Jun 11, 2020, 3:07 PM

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@arctic prawn thank you for your unsolicited tournament gameplay breakdown

exotic oriole Jun 11, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Are skirmish battles new? I was not aware of a news release until they appeared in tournaments scheduling tab.

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 3:24 PM

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So is it actually true that there’s no tournaments till a month

exotic oriole Jun 11, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Maybe the devs accidentally pushed skirmish battles to tourney a month early? Instead of July 10th they set it to June 10th? Because I’ve never seen a month tourney gap before, unless they leave it up and still schedule more normal ones.

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Hmm maybe. I hope it’s not a month gap though my clan roster is pretty ready for them

exotic oriole Jun 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I’m guessing a mistake... Either in the time the tourney starts or the time to send out the information. They usually have an accompanying news release when a new mode such as 5v5 is released. At least I believe it is a new mode?

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Are you guys planning to reintroduce bronze, silver, gold tournaments next season? Also does anyone know if there are any big tournaments coming back soon? Also (directly towards wargaming) you guys should bring back realistic tournament. That was fun

livid galleon Jun 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Notice that in the gif that base A is capped too

granite sand Jun 11, 2020, 7:02 PM

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ok

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-06-11_at_1.01.39_PM.png

chilly hemlock Jun 11, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Apparently people don’t understand what “off season” means

atomic tartan Jun 11, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Its GTA season

zealous hearth Jun 11, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Oo that’s ages to wait :((

thorn shale Jun 11, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Sorry irak it’s my first year playing blitz so I’ve never seen off season

buoyant geyser Jun 11, 2020, 9:17 PM

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ok
Lemme guess... Double Friday ?

granite sand Jun 11, 2020, 9:34 PM

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yeah

proud holly Jun 11, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Is Skirmish just normal tourneys but in realism mode

clever jacinth Jun 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Skirmish is a 5v5 on a smaller section of the current maps

proud holly Jun 12, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I wonder what type of tanks will work for that

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 6:58 AM

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@chilly terrace - vehicle balance and meta discussions are extremely relevant topics of discussion to tournament players. I accept that to people that don't play tournaments/are not good at tournaments, it might not seem relevant - but that is part of the reason why the people discussing vehicle balances and meta here are high level tournament players and they aren't 😂

@arctic prawn ATGMs are the only shell type that can engage an enemy outside of Line of Sight - so yes, that sense, the videos above are unique 🙂

@thorn shale - there's nothing wrong with playing in platoon - but the problem is that doesn't accurately reflect your actual skill level as an individual, because your platoon mate(s) are controlled variable modifiers which influence both your win rate and average damage. Just go to BlitzStars and look at top 100 players over the last 30 days. It is not a coincidence that the majority have very high platoon ratios for that period. - so of course for tournament seeding, being able to exclude or counter-balance platoon games would be required.
@winter swallow
If it's relevant topic for tournament players, it doesn't matter that we should discuss here anything that somehow related to tournaments. As I said before, this topic is only for tournaments. These things that you are discussing here have no direct connection with tournaments. Moreover, I mentioned the channel where you can discuss it. Next messages which are not connected to tournaments will be deleted, because members of this channel cannot keep topic and don't react to my comments.

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Are skirmish battles new? I was not aware of a news release until they appeared in tournaments scheduling tab.
@exotic oriole This tournament accidentally appeared in the game client.

winter swallow Jun 12, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I hope that tournament team seeding for match-making purposes will be changed/fixed before the next major season. This is because for Spring Season 2020 it was too easy to manipulate and was not representative of teams' tournament skills/abilities. @chilly terrace - do you have any plans for this?

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 8:51 AM

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I hope that tournament team seeding for match-making purposes will be changed/fixed before the next major season. This is because for Spring Season 2020 it was too easy to manipulate and was not representative of teams' tournament skills/abilities. @chilly terrace - do you have any plans for this?
@winter swallow
You exaggerate the real influence it on results.
If we have plans for changing it, we'll share information about it when we will be ready to do it.

winter swallow Jun 12, 2020, 9:12 AM

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@chilly terrace - please do not misquote me / put my words in my mouth. I have never once said it affected the overall outcome of the tournament on any server.

However, it is an imperfect system that could be improved. All I asked was whether you had plans to improve it.

Your answer could have been a simple 'no'. Or even a 'not at this time'. Instead you have chosen to reply saying - even if we are doing something, we won't tell our players about it.

So what questions can we ask WG here and what answers can WG give us? Ideally we avoid wasting each other's time.

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 10:03 AM

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@chilly terrace - please do not misquote me / put my words in my mouth. I have never once said it affected the overall outcome of the tournament on any server.

However, it is an imperfect system that could be improved. All I asked was whether you had plans to improve it.

Your answer could have been a simple 'no'. Or even a 'not at this time'. Instead you have chosen to reply saying - even if we are doing something, we won't tell our players about it.

So what questions can we ask WG here and what answers can WG give us? Ideally we avoid wasting each other's time.
@winter swallow

I didn't misquote you or put any words in your mouth. You wrote "This is because for Spring Season 2020 it was too easy to manipulate and was not representative of teams 'tournament skills/abilities". "Too easy to manipulate" isn't the truth. As well as "was not representative of teams tournaments skills/abilities", because the system works well as soon as it can determine the best clans well. I don't think that any clan from top-8 didn't deserve to be there. Anyway, sorry if my words were unpleasant for you, I didn't want it.
We never share our plans, because sometimes people think that plans are equal to "it will be done in any way". So I wrote that we share any our plans when we will be ready to do it. There are much things are being done in the game right now and we won't tell players about them until time has come.
You can ask any questions which are related to tournaments or specific tournament directly but be ready that answer could be different from your expectations. Anyway, we point out, if the discussion will go far away from tournaments.

swift roost Jun 12, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Soooo..no 5vs 5 today?

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Soooo..no 5vs 5 today?
@swift roost
It wasn't scheduled for today. So it's not.

swift roost Jun 12, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Hmm just thought i saw it was today..my bad

thorn shale Jun 12, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Somebody can invite me for tournament

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Hmm just thought i saw it was today..my bad
@swift roost
You saw some tournament that accidentally had appeared in the game client. May be it was just a test tournament... Or not... Who knows?

swift roost Jun 12, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Meh

graceful jetty Jun 12, 2020, 1:16 PM

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How small are the maps gonna be for that tournament that we may or may not be able to play? @chilly terrace

chilly hemlock Jun 12, 2020, 1:50 PM

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@winter swallow nothing new. There have been tournament loopholes since 2016

atomic tartan Jun 12, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Better than cwna “loopholes”

Actually there were no loopholes in cwna. How can there be any when its legalized rigging 🙈

The only clans that definitely didn’t rig/collude in another rig dropped after the first week

chilly terrace Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 PM

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How small are the maps gonna be for that tournament that we may or may not be able to play? @chilly terrace
@graceful jetty
If we did such tournament, there would be smaller maps that usual, I think.

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@versed field Sorry but we would like to ask you not to post regulations of this tournament.

versed field Jun 12, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Okey i will not, sorry for that.

civic glacier Jun 12, 2020, 3:55 PM

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@chilly terrace Press Ready

harsh ember Jun 12, 2020, 4:25 PM

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🍉

thorn shale Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@chilly terrace I’ve been wondering. Will there be any plans to re-insert Himmelsdorf back into the map rotation? I think it would be perfectly fitting for the current tournament meta, and with its 4 caps on a smaller sized map it’s makes for interesting strategy

livid galleon Jun 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I'm still confused on why fixing spec mode is taking so long 🤔

obsidian vine Jun 12, 2020, 6:01 PM

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rework himmelsdorf so that u have the large hill like PC 😂

chilly hemlock Jun 12, 2020, 6:16 PM

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^^^

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The current himmels feels so small compared to Canal, canyon, new bay, Castilla etc

flat goblet Jun 12, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Maps do not need to be larger to be more interesting. There just needs to be more viable routes. Quite a few maps in the game have like 3 corridors/lanes from which to attack from relatively safely, from one side to the other, at least for competitive games. More maps like Faust would be nice, there are a bunch of different ways you could play the map.

thorn shale Jun 12, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Yeee Fishy is right. Maps like Normandy - that’s a no no.

chilly hemlock Jun 12, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Going on top of the himmelsdorf hill is just as useless as the beach in Normandy. Would it be cool? Probably. Useful? Almost never

crude mesa Jun 12, 2020, 9:39 PM

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The hill can just be that part of himmelsdorf. Its just there. You have the option to use it, and option to not. Just like on Normandy, sometimes if you need to run or something you can zip on out I dont see why it couldnt have the hill, but it is kind of redundant. Like Raik said.

lool nvm thats true the hill is useless

chilly hemlock Jun 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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It will ruin games because 1 or 2 people go there and ruin a game for their entire team

tropic lotus Jun 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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sour breach Jun 12, 2020, 9:40 PM

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beach is a meme on overlord

chilly hemlock Jun 12, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Parts of the port bay harbor is the same in terms of it being useless

knotty ravine Jun 13, 2020, 3:32 AM

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So I did my first T6 tourney... every team we went against was all ARL-44s... lol

livid galleon Jun 13, 2020, 3:45 AM

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They haven't advanced with the meta... real chads run vk 36s

woven meadow Jun 13, 2020, 4:04 AM

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vk36 was so last month. its all about vk30op now

forest matrix Jun 13, 2020, 10:58 AM

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@winter swallow
You exaggerate the real influence it on results.
@chilly terrace

@chilly terrace I don’t understand this statement at all. Seeding is precisely made to positively influence the course of the tournament. It is the exact objective to manipulate the draw in order to avoid best teams to eliminate each other early and having the best possible tournament outcome.
So of course seeding has a lot of influence!
But this influence has to be flawless in order to be accepted as such. We all saw how some teams manipulated the seeding to get easier rounds, they admit it even themselves ! (At least LXN and IMM0R in Eu server). And look how IMM0R was behind the 7 other PRO tournament teams.

I genuinely cant understand why WG is not having a closer look at this issue and take this feedback seriously. It is not a big deal to fix seeding algorithms is it?

Otherwise I promess you that in next twister you will see « 100% winrate » account in a dozen of teams. Because that makes a real difference at the end to play against LGN or a 3rd tier clan in the first rounds (just ask W1N or WW)

winter swallow Jun 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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To be fair, if the system doesn't change - most teams would be silly to not use it like this.

Spring Season Ascents were groups of 16 Bo3 non ticketed. Assuming same system, no bye-rounds and no ticket farming, you need to win 2 Bo3 matches to reach top 4 to earn a ticket. 4 times to get all tickets. Then ticketed tournaments are groups of 32, so you need to win 2 more Bo3 to reach top 8. And you have to do that 4 times to to even be in range of the top 8.

The EU server is very competitive. Competitive enough that the 2018 champion can get knocked out through this system.

It requires teams to win 16 Bo3s across 8 tournaments as an absolute minimum to reach Top 8. Consider all the "top" teams, and I'm sure if you run the numbers that you'd find statistically one or two of these teams will get burnt by the system if they have an average win rate. On EU that's between 63-66%.

If WG cannot fix the issue the teams can by simply putting in some high win rate rerolls - thus delaying the time until they face stronger opponents.

thorn shale Jun 13, 2020, 1:34 PM

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That's naming and shaming. We don't do that here. @visual tendon

patent quartz Jun 13, 2020, 1:45 PM

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and prevent worthy teams to prove they're worth higher ranks than those teams

visual tendon Jun 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Now the question is : is blitz stars a good source of information? Who knows...

thorn shale Jun 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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@visual tendon that doesn't cut it and I'm pretty sure you knew it wouldn't when you did it.

fast hareBOT Jun 13, 2020, 2:18 PM

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dynoSuccess Mr_BURGOUR [F-B-I]#5727 has been warned.

visual tendon Jun 13, 2020, 2:22 PM

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I thought it, its usually enough... but thanks you for your kindness...lol... I was finnaly right about the censorship but that's not new

cerulean mesa Jun 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Petition to allow PCs for competitive tournaments. Seriously, why aren't they allowed? They don't have ang huge advantage over mobile, and I prefer it. This is WoT Blitz, not WoT Mobile.

thorn shale Jun 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Lmao

gentle sierra Jun 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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10 votes and we allow PCs , less go , meed 9 more

proud holly Jun 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Mobile has a better auto-aim system. I really can’t think of why not to allow PC since there isn’t any major advantage other than maybe device capabilities.

thorn shale Jun 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Lmao x2

gentle sierra Jun 13, 2020, 9:21 PM

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8 more votes !!!!!!

thorn shale Jun 13, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Is this some kind of humor festival?

spice briar Jun 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@proud holly @cerulean mesa go and play the pc version

proud holly Jun 13, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I already do. My stance is the same

gentle sierra Jun 13, 2020, 9:51 PM

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git gud on touch?

glass thunder Jun 13, 2020, 10:12 PM

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wait are pc players not allowed to play big tournaments ? i think you can always do with emulators and no one can check and most important you get pc aim + tc auto aim

livid quail Jun 13, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i dunno why pc players arent allowed to play, i think it has something to do with being able to use hitskins and stuff, cause the pc auto aim really only helps when ur cod'ing a tank

harsh ember Jun 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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maybe because its a mobile game

civic glacier Jun 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Lol

glass thunder Jun 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Maybe because you can’t take pc to minsk

livid quail Jun 13, 2020, 10:42 PM

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i play on a laptop, and its not just a mobile game its also pc, so that argument isnt 100 percent valid

spice briar Jun 13, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Its a mobile game which is playable on PC, just like many other mobile games, also since the players wont be able to play under the same circumstances, it would not be concidered competetive (if PCs would be allowed)

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a pc gives you clearly an advantage in many situations over touch...

graceful jetty Jun 13, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Not to mention you being able to just aim lock onto a tank and just look the complete other way while knowing you're guaranteed to hit the guy u locked on to. Bigger screen more FOV and better situational awareness. More accurate and easier aiming, more precise positioning. Just stop saying pc doesnt have any advantages over mobile lmao. If u wanna play competitive, play on touch that's how it's always been and nothing is going to change

proud holly Jun 13, 2020, 11:36 PM

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The lock on is very situational. Center mass doesn’t guarantee penetration on every target and the ability to look around sacrifices seeing what’s ahead of you.
The bigger screen doesn’t necessarily mean you can see more objects around you. It just means everything’s enlarged and that can also be relocated if I decided that I wanted a bigger tablet for that.
The auto-aim’s better on mobile, since I can actually maintain a general direction at the target. The accuracy and precision argument is completely dependent on individual skill, whether it’s by mouse movement or thumb movement.
Both device types have certain advantages over the other and none of them are particularly game breaking. That’s why I’m saying let computer players play competitive as well. Being a hardcore traditionalist isn’t always the best decision because change doesn’t always lead to worse outcomes.

And I say this because I play both on both platforms. I feel comfortable in playstyles that vary on both the phone and the laptop/PC. NoPartyWithoutMe somehow decided to brush over that.

cerulean mesa Jun 13, 2020, 11:42 PM

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^^^^^
Also I have many reasons for playing blitz, including but not limited to: being able to play even if I'm traveling without starting a new game; no arty; less campy battles; shorter battles in general which is good if I don't have much time; no completely broken tier 10 tanks that WG refuses to nerf cough 279; and the simple fact that I have already invested money into this game

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@harsh ember @spice briar it is a game that allows for mobile, not a mobile game. It specifically says WoT BLITZ, not WoT MOBILE, as I said earlier

upper oar Jun 13, 2020, 11:52 PM

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this is a hot take

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its a game that allows for PC players to play, it started as a mobile game and remains as such. PC gamers already have WoT PC. think of PC players basically using a ported version of Blitz to play on their computers

harsh ember Jun 13, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Ok 🦧 lets see if someone ever pulls up to minsk with their entire PC setup/laptop. @upper oar its his own unique and very spEcial logic God Bless Blitz

cerulean mesa Jun 13, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Ok, where does it say mobile? This is like calling almost any fps a PC game even though it is available on many platforms.

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upper oar Jun 13, 2020, 11:57 PM

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what kind of logic is " It specifically says WoT BLITZ, not WoT MOBILE" though. does this mean that every mobile game must say "mobile" in the title, in order for it qualify to be a mobile game? and must PC games list "PC" in their titles as well? that just doesn't make sense at all.

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besides, this is what it says on Steam lmao:

About This Game
Jump into a free-to-play MMO action shooter featuring a huge roster of over 300 massive tanks, stunning graphics, and intuitive touch-screen controls. Take on short, action-packed 7-vs-7 tank battles where real and alternate histories collide-no matter where you are!

World of Tanks Blitz is built specifically for optimal online mobile gameplay and is currently available on your iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch.

harsh ember Jun 14, 2020, 12:01 AM

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@cerulean mesa and if you had actually read you'd know that he was talking about PC players not being allowed in major tournaments, not whether or not bLitZ iS a pC gAmE

upper oar Jun 14, 2020, 12:01 AM

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besides on big tournaments, its best to have people on one type of platform so that there no claims to any specific advantages or disadvantages

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:02 AM

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If there is a claim to a certain platform having an advantage, then higher up players should just buy a PC, or use the one they already have, because I'm sure most people already have a laptop or PC.
Controversial? WG knows all about controversial. T22 Medium is the best medium for tourneys, not controversial you say?

fathom tiger Jun 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Or just flip out your phone and you’re good to go

upper oar Jun 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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yes, force people to buy a device purely to be competitive in tournaments

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i can't see that being anything but controversial, allowing players to use PC's for bigger tournaments

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Lol, the good old pc Vs touch tournament discussion. No point barking upthat tree, you will be fighting a loosing battle here, with all the anti pc players here.

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@cerulean mesa instead of complain why tournaments are not for PC, why don't you install blitz on your phone? If you are at least 13 (if you are bellow you should not be on discord) you most likely have a touch screen phone able to run blitz.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Are we really discussing this PC thing? Pfff

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I have it on my phone. The only problem is, I have a samsung 5. And I'd rather have a terrible phone and a cheap laptop than a $400 phone/tablet and no laptop, frankly.
No person can call themselves a competitive gamer if they play on mobile tbh

fathom tiger Jun 14, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Personally i play on both pc and touch, longest sessions i find more enjoyable on pc such as playing randoms 12 hours per day, switching to touch to play comp aint that such of a problem. It doesnt even take that long to learn mobile mechanics to okish level (i myself still find it hard to drive on mobile)

To get call ourselves as competitive gamers we gotta play pc?

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@cerulean mesa from on pc player to another, there is no point, asking for mixed competitive tournaments. Wargaming are smart enough to recognise the advantage a pc can have.

A separate tournament for pc players on the other hand would be nice... But let's be realistic that's never going to happen.

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I have it on my phone. The only problem is, I have a samsung 5. And I'd rather have a terrible phone and a cheap laptop than a $400 phone/tablet and no laptop, frankly.
that is your own problem then. Its a decision which you made/make

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Saying PCs are biased is just as stupid as saying somebody with the latest and greatest mobile device is going to perform the same as a person with 30 fps and minimum graphics
Also yes ting they could at least make a PC tournament but nah, let's ignore everyone who prefers PC ( more than 50% in my clan)

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:15 AM

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What is really stupid here is people wanting PC players to take part in big tourneys
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@cerulean mesa yeah okey congrats for having half PC clan. You have off season, top echelon and more tourneys to play with your PC team. Now pls stop talking about the same stupid thing that ppl already talked about 200 times 200 years ago.

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:18 AM

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What is really stupid here is people wanting PC players to take part in big tourneys
@thorn shale
Tbh that's not stupid. It's just a bit of FOMO (Fear of missing out).

They will get over it, after they realise Blitz gets boring.

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:19 AM

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@cerulean mesa they prefer PC because it has some advantages over mobile. And therefore to eliminate the disadvantages for mobile, even if most are fairly minuscule, the tournaments are only for mobile. Period.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Well. Its stupid when wg talked about it 200 times and said they WONT put PC in the big tourneys @pallid raven if he wants to play tourneys so bad with his super PC clan he has a lot of tourneys which are actually great (off season and top echelon) where he can play on PC

Edit: @cerulean mesa well clearly bcs WG is not interested. Should we say again the game was made only for touch??
At least on EU server off season is actually interesting with plenty of good teams.

“The game was NOT made only for touch, where is that written” - @cerulean mesa

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Then why don't they make a PC tour for each mobile tour. Simple.
I'm disgusted that you think off season tournaments are remotely competitive, it is purely luck of the draw on whether you face idiots or Pramo
The game was NOT made only for touch, where is that written

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:25 AM

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If you were playing a game, where you spent countless hours grinding and practicing with pc controls, to only find out that the competitive tournaments are for touch only, you will feel like you are missing out, but after a while they will realise, competitive tournaments aren't even worth playing, and this player will be lost into the abyss and move onto another game.

fathom tiger Jun 14, 2020, 12:25 AM

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The game was actually launched as mobile version of pcwot

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Since the first minute that WG introduced PC players into Blitz we all perfectly knew that competitive tourneys would remain only for touch

Edit: @cerulean mesa if u want to play tourneys so bad go play top echelon and off season. If u only want to play twister and spring season with ur super PC team u can find another game since that WONT happen

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@cerulean mesa Wait ... wait ... wait. You are talking about off season tournaments like the ones we have currently also known as quick tournaments? You do realize they can be played on PC and touch ...

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:28 AM

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No, I'm talking about competitive tournaments. Also, what a game was or wasn't doesn't define what it is. That's like saying any game in the world is terrible because it was unbalanced when it was first launched
It comes down to touch players being scared of PC players who are not better than them because of biased platforms, but actual skill

harsh ember Jun 14, 2020, 12:28 AM

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And he’s still being special, goodbye 😆

red vapor Jun 14, 2020, 12:30 AM

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😆

fathom tiger Jun 14, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Exatcly i dont wanna play comp against herrmroz:)

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:32 AM

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In your previous post you literally say and I quote "I am disgusted that you think off season tournaments are remotely competitive". So are you talking about off season tournaments or competitive/in-season tournaments (if you can call them that) twister and spring season. By talking about off season tournaments you are referring to quick tournaments. So which one is it and make up your mind. Also this is my last post on this dumb... just straight out moronic discussion

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:32 AM

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@cerulean mesa Oh well big lmao here i see this is really usseles discussion just bcs u r not thinking. Gn everyone and pls make sure to keep your braincells (if you have) active

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Last year I do believe spring season tournament's were mixed, but this year as money was involved they had to make it a fair playing field and limit it to touch only.

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I was referring to when somebody else said off season tournaments are great for PC players, the initial discussion was about a lack of PC in competition
Also that's thick gaseo, coming from a guy who can't even make sense while he types
"Fair playing field"
That's absolute bull crap, since premiums and collectable tanks, which people spend hundreds on to get a single tank, are allowed in tournaments. If you want a fair playing field, remove premiums as well. But WG doesn't do that do they? They just cherry pick what is or isn't "fair"

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:37 AM

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@cerulean mesa Im just scared of your super PC team getting over the comp scene. Im sorry if you cant understand me. And i never said “Fair playing field” but okey, whatever.

Edit: @arctic axle yeah well I will just go do something better. This guys mind is really amazing. Whatever gn.

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@thorn shale mate just leave the argument. It is quite apparent his ability to think currently is out of order so we should let his mind clear up

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:40 AM

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@cerulean mesa Oh well big lmao here i see this is really usseles discussion just bcs u r not thinking. Gn everyone and pls make sure to keep your braincells (if you have) active
@thorn shale I'd say it's pretty hard to understand what you're saying, given this monstrosity of terribly written text

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Ngl I understood what he said/meant

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@pallid raven I understand his point. He wants PC tournaments. That can happen in two ways .One is when the tournament is mixed, that means that we mobile players get disadvantages, while he will gain a perk. The other is PC only tournament, which lets face it, WG will probably never implement.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Not everyone is able to know perfect english. You should know this @cerulean mesa

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Riiiiiight and yet you know every shortening possible for words
Whereas the least I'm concerned about when learning a second language is how to use slang tbh
I still have no clue where you're getting "PC players have an advantage" from

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:49 AM

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🍿

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:49 AM

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As Mxddxxkkm said earlier
Not to mention you being able to just aim lock onto a tank and just look the complete other way while knowing you're guaranteed to hit the guy u locked on to. Bigger screen more FOV and better situational awareness. More accurate and easier aiming, more precise positioning.
To which I want to add when you play on PC you can get more fps, also they allow for better game performance. Mobile also has some advantages but those from PC outnumber them. So yeah. Now I am going to bed because its 3:49 am.

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:54 AM

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*actually it's capped at 60fps, and the better performance is minimal, compared to a high end device

But everything else is true.

proud holly Jun 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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~~buy a higher end mobile device. There’s literally tablets that are built for gaming~~

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 12:57 AM

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wasn't 120 fps available for PC?

proud holly Jun 14, 2020, 1:01 AM

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It’s an option but I can’t access it for my PC.

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Wow, that's a real bugger. Not like WG couldn't cap tours to 60 fps, IMPOSSIBLE. Any other complaints about how PC is biased?
Also, FOV is same, PC autoaim is notorious for being terrible at tracking targets. Bigger screen, more things in your vision to eliminate to get to a target, and the game isn't based on finding a target, that's why spotting is implemented. Aiming on PC is possibly the only advantage, although definitely debatable, and what it gains in sniper mode it loses in arcade mode.
Also also, people talk about how aiming is better on PC but nobody mentions that driving is more precise on mobile due to a 16 option joystick vs 8 option keyboard

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Your fingers block a third of your screen on a phone. On a tablet a little less

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Fair enough, black out general areas on PCs where a finger would be, proportioned to the screen. Don't tell me WG couldn't do it
Any other ways PC is biased that couldn't be an easy fix?
If it makes you happy, WG could limit the sensitivity of a mouse to make it less "precise", even though the same levels of accuracy are more than possible on mobile
Oh, and they could ban manual zoom if you really insist on that one

graceful jetty Jun 14, 2020, 2:37 AM

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It comes down to touch players being scared of PC players who are not better than them because of biased platforms, but actual skill
@cerulean mesa big lmao moment. I used played in PC and mobile as well so I know first hand how easy it is to maintain situational awareness with a mouse and keyboard compared to sliding ur fingers across a screen. Normie pc players dont scare anyone. It's the tryhards who think they're good just because they're on pc and their opponents are on mobile. Have you ever faced someone AD spamming on pc when ur fighting them on touch? It completely throws your aim off. That by itself is overpowered enough for pc not to be allowed in competitive. Also I'm not sure if it was you but someone said that the aim lock isn't a guaranteed pen? If it aimed for you as well then wouldnt that just be called an aim bot? Lmao. The aim lock is just broken cause it keeps ur gun locked on and u can look somewhere completely different. It's not that pc players have more skill it's just that they're on the easier platform.

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Also, FOV is same, PC autoaim is notorious for being terrible at tracking targets.
@cerulean mesa FOV is not the same, you can easily go watch some youtube videos which outline the differences. You may think PC aim lock is bad at tracking targets but it's much easier than mobile aim assist so be quiet and move on from that.
Bigger screen, more things in your vision to eliminate to get to a target, and the game isn't based on finding a target, that's why spotting is implemented.
Just.. what? More things to eliminate? What are you talking about? When you have more vision you can keep track of more things at once. It's easier to look at what's going on behind you cause you have to move ur mouse a lot less because ur angle of vision is a lot larger. That in combination with higher dps on a mouse you can check what's going on 360° around u in 1 second during a reload and go back to 1v1ing some poor dude on mobile who cant aim at ur weakspots because ur AD spamming

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Mobile is also a lot harder to do everything at once. Switching ammo, looking around and shooting, and using consumables.. @cerulean mesa which is not something everyone wants to learn. @cerulean mesa well on pc I’m not asking you to change how you play just to get an advantage. I don’t wanna learn how to change my finger placement which is my only option to be able to match something against pc users. Thank you for finally ending all of you!!! This went on way to long. It could have just been said that you want Pc only tourneys as well

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 2:55 AM

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first of all no clue what AD spamming is
second of all I use very little dps on my mouse for better aiming so that's irrelevant
@thorn shale claw method is a thing, which is their choice to learn or not to learn, but if they don't want to learn that's on them
ngl I'm done arguing about this. Yes, there are always going to be people that complain, so naturally WG can't put different platforms together competitively. But they are obligated to make individual competitions for each one, which they do NOT
discussion ended

graceful jetty Jun 14, 2020, 3:00 AM

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If you have little dps it's a you problem.
AD spamming is when you spam.. guess what you spam? AD 🤦
I cant learn claw because I play on my phone and it's not big enough for it and I dont want to buy a tablet or iPad same as how you dont want to buy a good phone (ironic isn't it)
You ever looked at ur keyboard?
PC players can do it a lot faster than mobile players and for pc players it's not gonna affect their devices stability and affect their accuracy
Wait 2 mins for slow mode I'm gonna do a pro gamer move
Nah I did it in the hope they do everyone else a favour and mute u

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 3:01 AM

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what is AD 🤦‍♂️
LOL that's called wiggling you moron anybody can do that
if you're telling me you can't do the same thing on mobile you're just dumb
this guy be really be pinging mods about being called a moron xD

graceful jetty Jun 14, 2020, 3:05 AM

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what is AD 🤦‍♂️
LOL that's called wiggling you moron anybody can do that
if you're telling me you can't do the same thing on mobile you're just dumb
@cerulean mesa <@&481447501690568709> offensive language. He insulted me when I'm just having a civil discussion

fast hareBOT Jun 14, 2020, 3:08 AM

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dynoSuccess EinSteiner2#5089 has been warned.

harsh ember Jun 14, 2020, 3:10 AM

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gotem

stiff haven Jun 14, 2020, 3:12 AM

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same control mode on, problem solve. also have fun playing twister on pc

proud holly Jun 14, 2020, 3:12 AM

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You guys must have tumors for thumbs if 1/3rd of ur mobile screen gets covered by them

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 3:14 AM

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@proud holly what if I do have tumors. U should get warned for saying that. Maybe my fingers are big. That is insulting @upper oar I feel very offended by the guys above comment.

silver vapor Jun 14, 2020, 3:15 AM

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this is a very sad discussion lmao

grizzled torrent Jun 14, 2020, 3:15 AM

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WG is obligated to make individual competitions for different devices
wat
since when was wg obligated to do anything for players lmao

cerulean mesa Jun 14, 2020, 3:16 AM

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personal opinion, not a fact
pretty noice how you guys managed to give me a warning in 3 minutes for insults but didn't manage to ban a guy posting hentai for over 20 minutes xD

upper oar Jun 14, 2020, 3:17 AM

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i play on an iPhone 7 so my thumbs easily take up 1/4th to a 1/3rd of my screen

left portal Jun 14, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Ig it’s about 1/4
Doesn’t bother me all that much except for switching ammo

narrow meteor Jun 14, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Blitz was always meant to be a mobile game

harsh ember Jun 14, 2020, 3:29 AM

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🦧

proud holly Jun 14, 2020, 4:30 AM

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they have it on PC. Now it’s a multi-platform game hahaha

fast hareBOT Jun 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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dynoSuccess CaesarSalad#4081 has been warned.

spice briar Jun 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

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What about if they remove PC completely from blitz? Much better imo , the only reason its in this game is to increase the number of players

flat goblet Jun 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Imagine thinking PC doesn’t have distinct advantages over mobile. Maintaining situational awareness is so much easier the bigger your screen gets. Additionally, access to manual zoom is pretty great for pre aiming and the occasional blind fire. Turret lock is way better on PC than mobile as well, with lookout bar on mobile there is drift and snapping, no such thing for PC. Again, this helps a ton with situational awareness without sacrificing armor angling. Oh, and ammo switching is faster on PC unless you play claw, which may mean sacrificing more screen space for an extra finger on your screen.

I feel bad for anyone playing on phone, tablet is fine.

livid galleon Jun 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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The real question is, are android emulators legal? 🤔
You know what they really need to add? Manual zoom on mobile

thick coyote Jun 14, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Why don’t turn on same control mode instead of complaining how good pc players are? lol

livid galleon Jun 14, 2020, 8:00 AM

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The discussion is about professional tournaments, currently they are limited to mobile only

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I don't mind Mobile Only tournaments as long as there are also PC only tournaments so we don't have to watch from the sidelines. I understand PC players have an advantage but I know plenty of players who perform well in Mobile Devices vs PC players. Anyways, not to say that we should be mixed into the same tourney but competitive aspect of the game gets pretty dry when only the mobile players are allowed to do their thing so maybe WG should add a parallel PC only tournament with smaller prize pools (But the same frequency of games).

pale finch Jun 14, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Stop arguing about this WG will never allow pcs in major tournaments and they’ve declared so multiple times before, the top of the competitive aspect will remain touch only and those are facts, nothing else.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Read what I said. Im not even asking for a mjor tournament just something to keep us entertained during Mobile season. I agree with people that say PC play doesnt belong in the top top level of competitive against mobile but that doesnt mean it should just be sidelined for a whole month.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 10:01 AM

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During this spring season there were tourneys called spring season coins (or something similar) while the big mobile season (prof/ascent) was taking part. So idk what you talking about @thorn shale You have tourneys that are both PC/touch during only touch tourneys. Thats what u were asking for and we already have it

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@livid galleon Emulators are not legal to use according to the EULA.

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I would interpret this to apply to emulators.

12.1.10 using any unauthorized third party programs, including hacks, cheats, scripts, bots, trainers and automation programs that interact with the Resources in any way, for any purpose, including any unauthorized third party programs that intercept, emulate, or redirect any communication between the software and Wargaming and any unauthorized third party programs that collect information about the Game by reading areas of memory used by the software to store information;

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 11:12 AM

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PC tournaments shouldn’t exist to force all those players to switch to touch = more competition = more fun.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 11:48 AM

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This may ruffle some feathers and it is in fact coming from a player who exclusively plays on a PC... If PC players want to partake in the highest levels of competitive play they should switch to mobile.

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During this spring season there were tourneys called spring season coins (or something similar) while the big mobile season (prof/ascent) was taking part. So idk what you talking about @thorn shale You have tourneys that are both PC/touch during only touch tourneys. Thats what u were asking for and we already have it
@thorn shale I play tournaments, I know what they are come on...

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:14 PM

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PC tournaments shouldn’t exist to force all those players to switch to touch = more competition = more fun.
@thorn shale playing on touch ain't fun, for most pc players, but then again, playing blitz isn't fun at all.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Haha - you know, blitz isn’t a fun game ahahahahhaha epic jokes

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Ikr

gentle sierra Jun 14, 2020, 12:28 PM

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This may ruffle some feathers and it is in fact coming from a player who exclusively plays on a PC... If PC players want to partake in the highest levels of competitive play they should switch to mobile.
@thorn shale
but its easier to complain about it than to put in the time and improve on touch , its not like so many others have already done it , oh wait ....

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Personally I know I'll never be good at touch. My thumbs are just too beat up from years of work to register accurately enough on a touch screen so I'm PC till the end. But I also really don't have the time or drive to play competitively so I guess it's a non issue as long as the game is on PC.

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The fact of the matter is that this at its core a mobile game ported over to other platforms (some better than others (I'm looking at you Steam)). The high level comp matches should in my worthless opinion remain Mobile only.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Thing is, I play on PC instead of touch because my phone is a potato with a tiny screen. Im a good mobile player, and I only just made the switch to PC when my Iphone 7 broke. You can't tell me to 'just switch to mobile' when I literally can't afford it. I get season coin tourneys, and I likr thrm but I wish (in the event WG doesnt have a Coin season to make tourneys) we could get a PC only tournament, smaller than the mobile tourneys but a PC only one nonetheless.

glass thunder Jun 14, 2020, 1:47 PM

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its not about pc better or tc better to make good competition you must make it fair btw all teams (ik with have prem p2w tanks) so you cant make big tournament with both tc and pc in so maybe one day when blitz get enough pc players teams wg can make 2 differenet tournaments ,it same drama like cod btw pc and console players

atomic tartan Jun 14, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Thing is, I play on PC instead of touch because my phone is a potato with a tiny screen. Im a good mobile player, and I only just made the switch to PC when my Iphone 7 broke. You can't tell me to 'just switch to mobile' when I literally can't afford it. I get season coin tourneys, and I likr thrm but I wish (in the event WG doesnt have a Coin season to make tourneys) we could get a PC only tournament, smaller than the mobile tourneys but a PC only one nonetheless.
@thorn shale I feel like the very base of your “argument”, if you would call something thats been talked about thousands of times since Blitz arrived on Steam with no results that, is >the game should bend over for me cuz i cant afford an ipad

harsh ember Jun 14, 2020, 3:07 PM

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yikes

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Harsh

gentle sierra Jun 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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F

civic glacier Jun 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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F

velvet dome Jun 14, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Is there any plans for CTS tourney in July?

Also any plans for the month long tourneys that we had in February and March?

daring bear Jun 14, 2020, 4:21 PM

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are there any plans to bring back spectating in tournaments? kinda sucks having 9 players and 2 playeds that cant play/spectate every battle

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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@thorn shale I feel like the very base of your “argument”, if you would call something thats been talked about thousands of times since Blitz arrived on Steam with no results that, is >the game should bend over for me cuz i cant afford an ipad
@atomic tartan Yes I do, I put as much time into this game as anyone so I'd like WG to make changes that benefit me and everyone else. And your rebuttle is based on the fact that things suit you currently. If you are scared of that changing and want to control everything go play Barbie.

Anyways, enough with the low blows we agree to disagree

hardy prairie Jun 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I mean I feel blitz was always designed to be a mobile game. PC WoT exists for PC players. WG releasing Blitz for Windows 10 and Steam is more of a money grab opportunity in my eyes.

obsidian vine Jun 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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The more players they can get playing the game the better, that’s really the only reason they released it on PC. but for comp touch only all the way, that’s your problem if u play on PC, it’s a mobile game, get a mobile device.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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My laptop is mobile...

arctic axle Jun 14, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I personally have a laptop on which you are able to detach your screen plate and use it as a tablet, but it is a bit uncomfortable so I don't use it

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 6:18 PM

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The more players they can get playing the game the better, that’s really the only reason they released it on PC. but for comp touch only all the way, that’s your problem if u play on PC, it’s a mobile game, get a mobile device.
@obsidian vine I don't think they want mixed competitive tournaments, just one main competitive touch tournament and one competitive pc tournament.

livid galleon Jun 14, 2020, 6:29 PM

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The "hue hue imagine someone setting up their pc at twister" argument doesn't hold weight since all you need is a laptop and a mouse, laptops aren't exactly immovable objects
I don't see any downside to adding pc tournaments really, all the old tournaments would still be there and mobile tournament players aren't affected at all

obsidian vine Jun 14, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I don’t see the point of a separate PC tourney, on NA it would be so so small.... and just splits teams, and how would u want to be the champions of twister Mobile but not PC. second you really think WG are willing to shell out more tourney prize money to a whole other tourney? And if they reduce it all the PC players would he upset because they don’t get the same rewards...
and interesting thing they could do is have the winners of both the Mobile tourney, and the PC tourney battle each other to find out a #1 obviously it’s a little uneven bc PC gives an advantage but just a fun tourney no rewards. However I still don’t like the idea of not having a champion, it doesn’t feel as satisfying if u get #1 and then realize you only faced like 70% of the player base

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@obsidian vine I don't think they want mixed competitive tournaments, just one main competitive touch tournament and one competitive pc tournament.
@pallid raven People still reading everything above as a call for a mixed tournament. NO! You're first person to get it right. Just something to keep us busy (Outside of QT or Season Coins) while Mobile gamers do there thing.

Besides, a PC tournament would be smaller than a Mobile one (based on what was proposed above) so the competitive aspect of Blitz would remain mobile. At the end of the day it would just be a way for high level PC players to not have to sit around bored, its not even about rewards just about playing at a high level when the Mobile lads play

livid galleon Jun 14, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I wouldn't care if the tourney prizes are less. Give us gold, give us camos, heck even give us avatars... that stuff is no cost for wargaming. I disagree that they would be small. In QTs usually over half each side is playing on PC.

obsidian vine Jun 14, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I still don’t like how PC was introduced into blitz, it’s good for marketing and all games should expand to as many platforms as possible in order to grow the player base and make more money, but competitive is always gonna be mobile and should stay that way. I don’t feel sorry for PC players who get “bored” that’s kinda your problem for choosing to play PC on a game strictly designed for mobile devices. There’s a reason twister cup and offlines are only mobile, and ur not aloud to play on PC. and like I said WG won’t shell out anymore prizes then they have to, it’s sad but fact of the matter

pallid raven Jun 14, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Yeah, it is definitely their problem. How dare they try to play a cross platform game on a pc. Lmao

@tropic lotus not really they are asking for.

civic glacier Jun 14, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Imagine buying a PC just to play blitz

tropic lotus Jun 14, 2020, 6:43 PM

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WG shouldn’t bend over backwards to cater to the PC players for a major tournament when the game was designed and intended to be played on mainly mobile.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 7:03 PM

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WG shouldn’t bend over backwards to cater to the PC players for a major tournament when the game was designed and intended to be played on mainly mobile.
@tropic lotus

Didn't know you where a Wargaming employee. Thanks for deciding for them 👍

This is a proposition, thats all. It doesnt involve Mobile players and it won't affect mobile players so Im not sure what the commotion is about, it was just a proposition.

upper oar Jun 14, 2020, 7:06 PM

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yeah and its his opinion as well

civic glacier Jun 14, 2020, 7:09 PM

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If WG cared about it, it would have happened long ago. They clearly don’t so no point in pestering about it. If you play PC blitz that’s fine, but like you should play more of different games than this. The game isn’t supposed to bend to your will just cause you don’t want to learn how to play mobile.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Aka: "this is the tournament channel where half of the things we ask for will never be added into the game (i.e spectator fix isnt coming any time soon), how dare you ask WG to make in imporvement into the game stfu".... whats the point of a tourney channel if we cant speak on things just cause WG wont add them. Starts with a dream..

livid galleon Jun 14, 2020, 7:13 PM

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This channel is for discussion about tournaments, not whether or not WG cares about it. If that was the limiting factor on what can be discussed, we might as well remove half the server's channels, such as #tank-balance-discussion .

tropic lotus Jun 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@thorn shale You don’t know how or why there are issues with spectator atm, so who are you to say they don’t care and won’t/aren’t working on the issue?

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 7:50 PM

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@thorn shale You don’t know how or why there are issues with spectator atm, so who are you to say they don’t care and won’t/aren’t working on the issue?
@tropic lotus Don't try me, the messages are pinned for everyone. Idk why there are issues but they made it clear that Spectator shouldnt be expected any time soon, it is what it is. You are just an argumentative and entitled person and because of that you keep trying to go back and forth.

If u don't like what I suggested fair enough, if you would have provided an actual reason for why you disagreed it would have been better but I can't waste my time with you like this

Everyones entitled to their opinions, but this is the tournament channel. Expect people to propose their visions for the game here, however unrealistic or unlikely they may be. Don't try to mute people just cause they don't agree, offer a rebuttal.

tropic lotus Jun 14, 2020, 7:53 PM

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To make this clear, I gave my opinion, you pinged me with a response, and you are now getting upset when I respond back to you... as well you have written an essay in my DM about whatever you’re on about.

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Deleted the snowflake emoji and then say I dm'd you needlessly. If you have a personal issue don't hide it and try to look like the good guy. You know what you sent, and you know you'd be warned by mods if you kept it there. Not much more to say, this is tournament channel and it should be open to everyone's opinions. Good luck

tropic lotus Jun 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Why would I have a personal issue about whether or not WG should add tournaments for PC players?

thorn shale Jun 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Time to chill. Maybe eat a Snickers.

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Time to chill. Maybe eat a Snickers.
@thorn shale 'Warned for Unrelated Topic' 😂

tropic lotus Jun 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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🙈🙉

flat goblet Jun 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Maybe you could do it on the website where it says support

vivid citrus Jun 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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manual zoom in sniper mode is a 100% clear advantage over mobile. There is no mobile version of this. This plays an even more important part in competitive play due to pre-aiming corridors, and blind firing common TD/light bushes

civic glacier Jun 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Planet of the 🦧’s

pallid raven Jun 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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It's Time to stop

fast hareBOT Jun 15, 2020, 1:30 AM

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dynoSuccess Warning logged for ☺☻☺#9950. They were not warned.

livid galleon Jun 15, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Warned for what exactly 🤔

winter swallow Jun 15, 2020, 7:07 AM

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This may ruffle some feathers and it is in fact coming from a player who exclusively plays on a PC... If PC players want to partake in the highest levels of competitive play they should switch to mobile.
@thorn shale 10/10 logic and objectivity. I am tipping my hat and saluting to you.

chilly hemlock Jun 15, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@livid galleon maybe you’d know if you didn’t mute the bot

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🤦🏼‍♂️

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 2:27 PM

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@winter swallow Thanks man. I'm fairly opinionated but I do my best to look at things as logically as possible.

wet tide Jun 15, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Ye it’s logic, wanna play pro tours start on the correct platform for it

chilly hemlock Jun 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I can’t for the life of me understand why pc players are so entitled to exclusive tournaments within WOTB. It’s a mobile game. Be glad it even exists for pc in the first place. Sure, mobile players benefit from pc money and players added to the queue but pc for sure has an advantage with auto aim and zoom for sniper mode that mobile doesn’t. The reason for mobile only tournaments is typically for elite level tournaments that happen 2 times a year and part of that is qualifying for Twister Cup and formerly Mobile Masters

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@obsidian vine back you 100%

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@winter swallow its almost like, if you want to play PC only tournaments, play WOT PC, and not the mobile version

steady nexus Jun 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Pc players only play mobile wot to make them seem like gods 😂

obsidian vine Jun 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Yep

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Pc players only play mobile wot to make them seem like gods 😂
@steady nexus or because they have a potato phone. Trust me, not every country give the people opportunity to buy phones when they want. In some country's phones are soo expensive. Or there's laws that don't give the people access to latest tech.

steady nexus Jun 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Bruh my ipad is 5yrs old and i still play on it i dont even get 30fps and have to use lowest graphics otherwise it crashes

latent olive Jun 15, 2020, 4:29 PM

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@thorn shale by your same logic not everyone can afford a PC that is suitable for gaming. Fact is this was a mobile based game ergo touch and not designed for PC initially. Yes it is now available on PC but that wasnt the initial plan and the pro tours were done for touch players. Just because PC players now feel 'slighted' isnt the argument here, because they have the same opportunity albeit in WOT PC, whereas touch players do not have that option. You cant have your cake, eat it, throw it up and eat it again i am afraid and you certainly cant argue that PC players are kind of discriminated against over touch players when touch players arent able to venture into WOTB PC unless they use a PC. I see no merits in the arguments above, sorry

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 4:38 PM

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@thorn shale by your same logic not everyone can afford a PC that is suitable for gaming. Fact is this was a mobile based game ergo touch and not designed for PC initially. Yes it is now available on PC but that wasnt the initial plan and the pro tours were done for touch players. Just because PC players now feel 'slighted' isnt the argument here, because they have the same opportunity albeit in WOT PC, whereas touch players do not have that option. You cant have your cake, eat it, throw it up and eat it again i am afraid and you certainly cant argue that PC players are kind of discriminated against over touch players when touch players arent able to venture into WOTB PC unless they use a PC. I see no merits in the arguments above, sorry
@latent olive well, i was arguing against this dude who said: "PC players only play mobile wot to make them seem like gods." I don't have a opinion in should PC players take part in tournaments of Blitz. I was only saying that there's more reasons why a PC user plays WOTB on PC than mobile. I'm a example. Maybe it's a joke from this guy, but we can't take this as true and being the reality outta there. Also, your videos are awesome, keep with them.

latent olive Jun 15, 2020, 4:41 PM

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@thorn shale sorry mate, misunderstood your post lol - I dont mind PC players in blitz, why would I, but when it comes to tours (even though I dont partake in pro tours myself) I do believe that the Pro tours should remain touch, just as I would argue that PS or even Xbox if they ever get WOTB shouldnt be able to go into Pro tours. Thx for liking the vids, lovely to hear 🙂

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@thorn shale sorry mate, misunderstood your post lol - I dont mind PC players in blitz, why would I, but when it comes to tours (even though I dont partake in pro tours myself) I do believe that the Pro tours should remain touch, just as I would argue that PS or even Xbox if they ever get WOTB shouldnt be able to go into Pro tours. Thx for liking the vids, lovely to hear 🙂
@latent olive by the way, i agree with tournaments keep being touch only. If you want PC to play at tournaments, go to PC specific version of WOT. This is another level, WG gave people choice to play the game in PC by Microsoft store or steam, but this doens't mean that they should gave PC players that really have advantages against mobile play in tournaments. If this happen, everybody will switch to PC for playing tournaments.

shrewd iron Jun 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Jeez luiz what a read. Conclusion PC should be allowed but we agree it shouldn't be included in Tournies.
Saved y'all the read 😂😊

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Just because PC players now feel 'slighted' isnt the argument here, because they have the same opportunity albeit in WOT PC, whereas touch players do not have that option.
@latent olive Before I got this laptop I ran Wot PC at 25 fps. Sometimes no mater which way you look at it things are looking down 😦

chilly hemlock Jun 15, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@shrewd iron pc can play tournaments. Just not the big ones

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I have yet to see someone bring a computer, monitor, keyboard and mouse to an offline to play. Hope it stays that way

shrewd iron Jun 15, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Yes @chilly hemlock . Big ones count 😉

livid galleon Jun 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I can play blitz on just a hard drive? Someone teach me this sorcery

stuck vine Jun 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Lol

flat goblet Jun 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Playing on a laptop at an offline would not be hard, but that’s not at all the point. The point is each device is different enough in certain gameplay aspects that you cannot logically consider them on the same playing field. It’s not even an argument on if one is better than the other. Because each platform is different, you can’t say that any game with mixed controls would be ‘fair’ in the most competitive matches.

thorn shale Jun 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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A standard needs to be set. That standard is mobile / touch only.

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I really don't get why this is a issue. You don't go to a pistol match with a rifle and then say "what's the big deal? We're all just shooting?".

obsidian vine Jun 15, 2020, 9:23 PM

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in pubg i do

shrewd iron Jun 15, 2020, 9:32 PM

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In Cod when it's "pistols only" there's always that one guy that pulls out his rifle

pallid raven Jun 15, 2020, 11:30 PM

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The pc players are not asking for their own offline or to partake in the touch offline... They just want an alternate tournament for them, where they can see who the best pc team is.

But wargaming won't do this, because most of the touch players will switch to Pc, quicker than @latent olive dies when he plays the 183.

Also wargaming have the numbers so if a separate tournament for Pc players was viable they would have already implemented it. It's a shame, as ik a lot of pc players who have stopped playing blitz solely because their aren't any challenging tournament's.

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Maybe an alternative to QT would be nice, to spice it up, a bit. As Qt become repetitive.

obtuse flame Jun 16, 2020, 12:39 AM

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PC players complaining? Where haven't I seen this?

thorn shale Jun 16, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Y'all wanna here something funny i have a pretty decent phone that cost me a day of work, it gets so bad that in almost every battle when im aiming my screen does a 360 for 3 to 5 seconds i honestly dont know how i still manage to do 5k in a tier 10 battle with such a bad gaming quality phone lol thought I'd share that with you guys also its been happening for like 3 years, im thinking of getting a new phone maybe one of the latest galaxy's out there

livid stump Jun 16, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Guys, I need people to join team ELITE

proud holly Jun 16, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Do that in #tourneys-team-search

winter swallow Jun 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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@chilly hemlock - @silver vapor shared a very good video from Shroud about the concept of mixed controls in major tournament series. I'll DM it to you. He nails it on the head.

thorn shale Jun 16, 2020, 7:54 AM

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The pc players are not asking for their own offline or to partake in the touch offline... They just want an alternate tournament for them, where they can see who the best pc team is.
@pallid raven Stunning that someone gets it. People acting like this is a demand, no, we'd just like to get one of these at some point.

Not necessarily a big tournament, maybe even just a series of small tournaments (same system as the one in season coins) so we have something to do while Mobile only games go on. Doubt any PC players would care if the rewards where just a small amount of coins

latent olive Jun 16, 2020, 8:23 AM

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@pallid raven they would take longer than 30.3 seconds surely? @thorn shale I get that PC players want a challenging tour, but the fact remains that the initial concept was for a mobile game and thus the level playing field was touch, which is fair. I myself wouldnt have an issue with separate tours, but then it would potentially over shadow the target market of the game, namely mobile users, because it could entice PC players away from WOT in large numbers and could have the effect of downgrading touch depending on the numbers and also diminishing the numbers on WOT PC. There will then come a time when the PC tours will want better prizes etc and again if the numbers exceed those of touch then there is a danger the PC side will take over a game that was intended to be touch and before long the best PC teams will demand PC twister and before you know we have gone from a mobile game to WOT PC for mobile with the PC side dominating. I dont think that would be a good idea myself. I have nothing against PC players, but the concept was mobile and I think that concept for the pro tour element should remain with the level playing field remaining touch only.

winter swallow Jun 16, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@thorn shale the issue is this is primarily a mobile game, and the bulk (very large majority) of the player base use touch controls. Developing and running tournaments uses the finite time of developers and the esports team. There are already mixed control tournaments. I'm sure WG could even try and run a PC control only tournament - but I doubt WG would want to have a major series for mixed controls or PC controls only. They already have a game for that and it is called WoT.

WoTB PC players can play the other WG title (WoT) on their devices (PCs) and partake in tournaments there.

WoTB touch players do not have a comparable or alternative WG title to run from their touch/mobile device.

So from the two points above, there is one of the dichotomies in your request, which reflects the asymmetrical nature of control type and game availability. i.e. - PC controls = two WG tank games. Touch controls = one WG tank game.

I have been very critical lately of WG's management of their seemingly very finite development capacity. I think that developing PC control majors is not appropriate for the game and nor is it an appropriate use of aforementioned developer time. I think the mixed control tournaments are fine at a casual level - but - are simply not viable as major series with cash prizes involved, owing to the pros/cons of each control system.

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 11:08 AM

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I’m lost in the idea of finding out the best pc only clan rather than just being the best clan overall

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I understand that pc players feel left out but I think rolling points out well that it could be a slippery slope

dreamy adder Jun 16, 2020, 11:27 AM

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I have yet to see someone bring a hard drive, monitor, keyboard and mouse to an offline to play. Hope it stays that way
@chilly hemlock do you know notebooks ? 😅

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Haven’t seen a laptop either

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Does anyone have data on how many or what percentage of players are mobile only, pc only or hybrid?

bright hinge Jun 16, 2020, 11:48 AM

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No

thorn shale Jun 16, 2020, 12:35 PM

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PC players should have other discord server and not enforce their rules there :>

glass thunder Jun 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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@chilly hemlock you can check steam chars last month blitz were in top 25* of most played steam games (on pavg online players )

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Currently 34th, but I don't believe it includes windows and Mac. This is also probably across all servers.

My guess is that 20-40% are on pc, but take that with a grain of salt.

Link: https://steamcharts.com/app/444200

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glass thunder Jun 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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for last month

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pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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On average 50-70k people are online, so it's a decent chunk, across all servers.

From Blitz Stars ^^^

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 2:00 PM

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@pallid raven but that’s for steam in general correct? That’s not just one server, it’s all of them?

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I assume it's from all servers, buy not official, hence the grain of salt.

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I worry that on na, China and Asia, that pc only tournaments wouldn’t have enough players

glass thunder Jun 16, 2020, 2:05 PM

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that number of players who play blitz on steam it have no relation with wg servers

graceful jetty Jun 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Yea on asia there would be like 4 pc only teams max lol. Until touch teams change to pc for easier competition or something but that's just gonna divide the already small tour scene

Edit: there might be more but it depends on whether they're all available to play at one time

fathom tiger Jun 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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or can just have mixed tourneys like off-season always are

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I worry that on na, China and Asia, that pc only tournaments wouldn’t have enough players
@chilly hemlock most likely. But maybe it could spark an increase in old players... Although I feel a lot of people would switch from Touch to Pc.

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@pallid raven that may be true but as of right now, why would people play mobile over pc if it wasn’t related to a pro season related tournament?

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I get people training on mobile for pro season and then obviously staying on mobile throughout it

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Most clans don't care/ can't make it to top 8, so if there is an alternative way, they would most likely switch, as playing on pc is easier, tho they must have a capable pc ofc. But tbh more people have a more capable pc than a capable phone (at least from what I have observed, tho that's not always the case).

I don't think a separate pc tournament will ever happen, but it's nice to dream.

This discussion should probably draw to a close, as it hasn't really been going anywhere. Just back and forth aimless discussions. But who knows maybe our voices have been heard...🤔 Doubt

civic glacier Jun 16, 2020, 3:46 PM

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X

idle basalt Jun 16, 2020, 3:49 PM

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I honestly think, for the longevity and health of esports, twister should be only for nintendo switch users when it comes out for it

chilly hemlock Jun 16, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Nintendo themselves will be the title sponsor

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I agree with the Nintendo switch idea

low badger Jun 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I would love to play blitz on my GameCube controller

obsidian vine Jun 16, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Smart dishwasher

harsh ember Jun 16, 2020, 6:35 PM

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roomba

pallid raven Jun 16, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Bo1 quick tournaments op!

Idk why this ever existed. Guess bo3 wasn't quick enough

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obsidian vine Jun 17, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Bo0.5 is the best, first person to get 3/7 kills wins

fast hareBOT Jun 17, 2020, 9:15 AM

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dynoSuccess Wolf_Mountain#5110 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess player_26108th_I_AM_Mickey_MOUSE#7147 has been warned.

chilly terrace Jun 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Bo1 quick tournaments op!

Idk why this ever existed. Guess bo3 wasn't quick enough
@pallid raven They existed because there were tests of different formats in quick tournaments when they released. These tests showed the best format which has been using since then

hallow hamlet Jun 17, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Who also loves the new update!!?😍

waxen fractal Jun 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I dont loke it mich the Schweden tanks not in do you know when they added too the game

void wadi Jun 17, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@waxen fractal They will be tested in this update and will come in future updates

waxen fractal Jun 17, 2020, 10:32 AM

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Ok why i dont get credits other players get credits by the update

sand sluice Jun 17, 2020, 10:36 AM

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hey guys the servers are very laggy in asia idk about others and i cant login in wotb so there is still tournaments or not?

chilly terrace Jun 17, 2020, 11:30 AM

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hey guys the servers are very laggy in asia idk about others and i cant login in wotb so there is still tournaments or not?
@sand sluice Yes, they are.

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@hallow hamlet @waxen fractal @void wadi
This is tournament channel.

waxen fractal Jun 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

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@RexyComandante ok

void wadi Jun 17, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Just wanted to answer him, sorry

chilly terrace Jun 17, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Just wanted to answer him, sorry
@void wadi No problem, I just point out that this topic is not for this channel =)

blissful slate Jun 17, 2020, 2:04 PM

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so I got randomly invited to a tournament and was like 'nice, some quick cash' but then the guy seems to be a noob and no one shows up - I now can't start normal games but also can't leave :/

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harsh ember Jun 17, 2020, 2:17 PM

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ggwp

graceful jetty Jun 17, 2020, 2:33 PM

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I heard u can leave the room if u uninstall @blissful slate

tropic lotus Jun 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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^
Also why does EU seem to get 5 tours and NA gets 4?

graceful jetty Jun 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Same on asia. It's to do with the level of activity @tropic lotus

slim frost Jun 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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elo pl

tropic lotus Jun 17, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I see

blissful slate Jun 17, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@graceful jetty nope just stuck without being able to play till the tournaments are over tonight...

atomic tartan Jun 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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This is why you dont join up with randoms lmao

blissful slate Jun 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@atomic tartan lesson learned.. there was no clan tournament today so I thought lets make some quit cash..

harsh ember Jun 17, 2020, 4:24 PM

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@atomic tartan What would we do without SGT BOLA tho 🙏🙏

civic glacier Jun 17, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Tru

vital obsidian Jun 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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so no spec in tournament with update 😢

dreamy shore Jun 18, 2020, 12:07 AM

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@vital obsidian is that true? No spec?

flat goblet Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Spec in tournament has been off for some weeks now

proud holly Jun 18, 2020, 2:35 AM

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#BringBackSpecInTourney

graceful jetty Jun 18, 2020, 2:45 AM

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#JustWaitABitUntilTheyFixItWhatsTheBigDeal

upper oar Jun 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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^^

primal prairie Jun 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Excuse me
Is tournament based on region?
I am from Asia region

fleet zodiac Jun 18, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Yes, it is

proud holly Jun 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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#BecauseImLazyAndImNotPatient

glass thunder Jun 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@chilly terrace have you considered let 3 players spec in training rooms from one side , i think many teams have 10 players for big tournaments so maybe that can help

chilly hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@glass thunder it’s funny that training rooms haven’t been improved in how many years huh?

thorn shale Jun 18, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Training rooms need to get improved... 3 specs for both teams would be perfect

chilly hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Expand player limits as well

fringe galleon Jun 18, 2020, 7:04 PM

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And make it possible for both teams to manage their own spectators and players, not only room creator

chilly hemlock Jun 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Be able to assign team captains

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A free for all setting would be amazing too

dreamy adder Jun 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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more room for bench warmers
activating chat for spectators on pc would also be appreciated

thorn shale Jun 18, 2020, 7:12 PM

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would be awesome if WG adds all this... really needed tbh

candid path Jun 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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^^^^^^^

pale finch Jun 18, 2020, 11:57 PM

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I mean the obvious response by Rexy will be something along the lines of; this is the tournament chat not training rooms bla bla. But on a serious not these changes would be great and it is indeed tournament related; as mentioned above the major tournaments now have 10 slots and not 9, having all 10 being able to take part in all games ( playing or spectating ) would be very beneficial rather than having to have members of your team not being able to see what’s going on

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 9:30 AM

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@chilly terrace have you considered let 3 players spec in training rooms from one side , i think many teams have 10 players for big tournaments so maybe that can help
@glass thunder
We don't think that this is something that must be implemented in near future.

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I mean the obvious response by Rexy will be something along the lines of; this is the tournament chat not training rooms bla bla. But on a serious not these changes would be great and it is indeed tournament related; as mentioned above the major tournaments now have 10 slots and not 9, having all 10 being able to take part in all games ( playing or spectating ) would be very beneficial rather than having to have members of your team not being able to see what’s going on
@pale finch
Nice joke, but this question is example of tournament related topic. When you ask question which is related to tournament and don't start the discussion "how much spectators must be allowed in the training rooms? 2? 3? may be 9? And let's discuss how training rooms is useful. We must see them as a main battle mode".

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Why you guys dont want to make better exprience to these clans who training a lot and have trained a lot already. I have two things i hope to see future 1. A change to give other player acces to setup their specs in training room and second but not least that we can have 3 spec spots.

shrewd iron Jun 19, 2020, 10:21 AM

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@versed field if you really want more than 2 specs short term just get one of the lads spectating to stream for the others on discord or something like that

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Mobile.player.exe.ping.pong.error. i have better one wg just grow specs spot with one more

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Why you guys dont want to make better exprience to these clans who training a lot and have trained a lot already. I have two things i hope to see future 1. A change to give other player acces to setup their specs in training room and second but not least that we can have 3 spec spots.
@versed field
Because we are considering now these things that improve experience for top-players much effectively.

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 11:27 AM

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But which top-players are you asking?

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 12:26 PM

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But which top-players are you asking?
@chilly hemlock
All who write their concerns in this channel.

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Just not the ones who wanted missiles removed though

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There’s 3 pages of missile comments in this channel specifically

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4 pages for atgm

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 12:40 PM

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I mean I appreciate these channels as we get an easy access way to communicate with the WG staff but for the tournament aspect I think you should consider our opinion generally above others for the likes of professionals / twisters because let’s face it a lot of the people writing their opinions here are playing these major tournaments year after year so for those tournaments I believe we are equipped with the best feedback :’)

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Just not the ones who wanted missiles removed though
@chilly hemlock
We have commented this statement much times and described why they haven't been removed yet. I don't want to go back to this topic, but I'd like to remind you that we are not going to prohibit any tanks in tournaments that are represented in game.

Generally, the collecting feedback and making decision considering it doesn't mean doing everything that was written in this channel.

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@pale finch like top 8 only

shrewd iron Jun 19, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Dude they listen to what we say, they dont have to necessarily go through with everything that we suggest....

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I mean I appreciate these channels as we get an easy access way to communicate with the WG staff but for the tournament aspect I think you should consider our opinion generally above others for the likes of professionals / twisters because let’s face it a lot of the people writing their opinions here are playing these major tournaments year after year so for those tournaments I believe we are equipped with the best feedback :’)
@pale finch
I appreciate all feedback that I read here, but, to be honest, much of you are concentrated on negative things and didn't notice things that had been changed. It's OK, because, generally, all people tend to see things that make them upset and forget about the things that were changed in a good way.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Well, I mean we are here to discuss what has to be improved in our opinions, most of us at least. Occasionally I see people addressing things that has been changed in a positive light but that’s not the point of having an open discussion; obviously you will want things the way your think they are better and therefore address them here and hope for some general agreement from the community followed by changes by WG.

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@chilly terrace so you listen to top players for only certain things?

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 12:56 PM

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@chilly terrace so you listen to top players for only certain things?
@chilly hemlock
Yes, we are listening. And there is not any message or point that we ignore.
Listening doesn't mean doing everything that you wrote. And, honestly, the game has different aspects which are connected to each other.
For example, players suggested here the different ways of changing qualifiers for the major tournament when they were held as one tournament in Bo3. We changed it, listening you, but changing it in the way that counted all different aspects of the game.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 12:58 PM

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The qualification system is generally improved but I believe the difference between the placements in the ticketed tournament in terms of cups should be way different ( lower for 32-8 places and higher for the above ) and also the seeding system DOES NOT have to be improved but it would be nice and bring more justice so teams can not abuse the matchmaking with low battle accounts with high win rates.

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 1:04 PM

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The qualification system is generally improved but I believe the difference between the placements in the ticketed tournament in terms of cups should be way different ( lower for 32-8 places and higher for the above ) and also the seeding system DOES NOT have to be improved but it would be nice and bring more justice so teams can not abuse the matchmaking with low battle accounts with high win rates.
@pale finch
All these points were heard and we are considering changes in these aspects. It doesn't mean that we'll change them in near future but we want to find the way to do it.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Understood, just wanted to point it out once again as it’s not only my opinion but something that’s been generally brought up by the participating teams

thorn shale Jun 19, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@chilly terrace are there plans of bronze silver and gold tourneys coming next season? I want to do a big tourney but I don’t see any coming up. Thanks oh very interesting

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one thing I think WG do deserve credit for is their willingness to expand the best of for both online and offline series @pale finch

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And I think while it’s easy to complain about overpowered tanks here in the tournament channel we have to keep perspective that it’s an area of the game that they have no control over

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 1:10 PM

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@chilly terrace are there plans of bronze silver and gold tourneys coming next season? I want to do a big tourney but I don’t see any coming up. Thanks
@thorn shale There will be something interesting in July. Prepare your 8 tier tanks.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Ah yeah, the tier 8 cash tournament - will be interesting without a doubt

thorn shale Jun 19, 2020, 1:11 PM

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@pale finch is it something from last year?

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 1:12 PM

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@pale finch P2w for p2w

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Money banger🤣 legend

thorn shale Jun 19, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Wasn’t that just for EU and RU if I remember correctly?

fringe galleon Jun 19, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Prepare your tier 8 premium tanks

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Sadly most eu top clans are hold on Blitz Masters community tournament in that time

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Wasn’t that just for EU and RU if I remember correctly?
@thorn shale Yeah, that's right.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Yeah that’s true @versed field, there’s a nice community tournament being held in the meantime for the top clans of EU

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 1:19 PM

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#NaLivesMatter

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Is there a link to where I’d imagine something like a news article in EU and RU regarding the competition?
@tropic lotus
If you mean the upcoming activity, you can't because we haven't posted any news about it. If you mean previous tournament (Money Banger), I can find the link for you.

thorn shale Jun 19, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@chilly terrace hopefully if there is a return of the money banger, NA could get an inclusion 😛

chilly terrace Jun 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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@chilly terrace hopefully if there is a return of the money banger, NA could get an inclusion 😛
@thorn shale All regions will be able to participate in July.

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I was referring to the previous tourneys yes
@tropic lotus
http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/52400-money-banger-tournament/

World of Tanks Blitz official forum

Money banger tournament - Tournament series

Money banger tournament - posted in Tournament series: Money banger tournament
General Requirements

Vehicle tiers: V-VI.

Registration period: from July 12th, 16:00 (CEST) to July 19th, 16:00 (CEST).

Duration: from July 19 to July 21, 2019.

Battles start: July 19th at 20...

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So there will be a return of the money banger next month?
@tropic lotus
Nope, but there will be tournament with cash on tier 8.

pale finch Jun 19, 2020, 1:47 PM

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That’s basically what I said above, seems like money banger tier 8 version ^^

silver vapor Jun 19, 2020, 1:50 PM

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#NaLivesMatter
@chilly hemlock nah it doesn't

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Money banger is great name. Dont change it😂, tier 8 tournaments are good example what happen when you can play with premiums this tourneys. Hopefully it will be never same in tier 10

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 3:06 PM

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@silver vapor you miss every shot you don’t take

glass thunder Jun 19, 2020, 4:09 PM

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tier 8 is worst tier in the game with this big amount of prem (overpower ) tanks i don't think its good idea to make a competitive tournament on it

why stop blitz masters when we did spend 15 days preparing for it , i think its better if eu top clans to agree to play this blitz master tournament and don't play wg tier 8 tournament

we did ask for more good tournaments but no one did ask for a pay 2 win tier 8 tournament

thorn shale Jun 19, 2020, 4:11 PM

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^

visual tendon Jun 19, 2020, 4:14 PM

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WG really has no regard for its community, it's impressive...

haughty jungle Jun 19, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Is blitzmasters cancelled because of some tier 8 tournament?

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Okey now im intrested. of how much i can win from that tier 8 money banger

visual tendon Jun 19, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I am sorry for the representatives of WG who are obliged to support this absurd decision xD

glass thunder Jun 19, 2020, 4:24 PM

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new update was great but this news is so bad

versed field Jun 19, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Im wating answer like "we dont know anything or we cant talk about private things" from rexy or atleast close of these arguments

silver vapor Jun 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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you miss every shot you don’t take
@chilly hemlock even if I hit them I don't have the penetration for the thick skulls

chilly hemlock Jun 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Auto ricochet angle 🤦🏼‍♂️

shrewd iron Jun 19, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Yeah Tier 10 tourni > Tier 8 anyday
Also if this Tourni is streamed i doubt as many people would watch as its a tier 8 tourni as compared to if it was tier 10. Just a thought

obsidian vine Jun 19, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Ngl this chat is very critical and I think sometimes, some people here give rexy a hard time. and also there is a point to be made that their is a lot of behind the scenes things that people don’t see, and although something, like a quality of life feature ( 3 specs ), might seem very easy to implement into the game, there’s probably other issues, and the development team is likely focused on working on something else. Everyone company has a ”priority” list for the game... and also give rexy credit for even answering and addressing a lot of different issues, even if it isn’t a response people want to hear. 🤷‍♂️

glass thunder Jun 19, 2020, 7:07 PM

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well we do think that rexy care for this we say what we think its good for the game
and i think it's better for the game to give your feedback than keep saying everything is ok

final rose Jun 19, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I’ve been thinking about the rewards for tournaments and really there’s no point to quick tournament or ascent tournaments because they provide such little credits to players if you factor in the amount of credits you receive after the amount you lose in firing gold rounds, and using expensive consumables as an advantage in battle, instead, why don’t we add a small gold reward for the teams that win all 4 tours, 2000 gold divided evenly of a full team of 9 sounds decent enough (knowing how cheap wargaming is) because 2000 gold divided by 9 is 222, if you don’t like this idea I’d really like to see a little better rewards for tourneys to influence players to become tourney players. 😁

proud holly Jun 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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if you do well, u get a million credits
youd lose 200k credits at most if you acted like dead weight for both tours
so that's a net gain of 800k credits

obsidian vine Jun 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I mean most of the time I gain like 700k from QTs which is honestly very nice, I’m not complaining as QTs are usually light hearted and played for fun, not for grinding and trying to make a profit

proud holly Jun 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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You're in pncr, yall can pull off whatevre yall want and still whoop at least 3/4ths of the registered teams

fringe galleon Jun 19, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Please allow more tries in quick tournaments, maybe reduce amount of credits you get from each tour. It wouldnt hurt anybody if you can play more than 2 times :))

red vapor Jun 19, 2020, 11:46 PM

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just create a new team

fathom tiger Jun 19, 2020, 11:55 PM

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You can play other tier when done one already twice but 7 hours is a pretty long time to have only 2 tries per tier

thorn shale Jun 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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HI

atomic tartan Jun 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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7 hours what? We have an hour and a half to make teams on NA

proud holly Jun 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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You also have time to decide who to choose before team creation tho no?

glass thunder Jun 20, 2020, 4:24 PM

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@atomic tartan in eu its 7h you can start at 14:00 cest if im not wrong

fathom tiger Jun 20, 2020, 4:57 PM

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15cest - 22cest

proud holly Jun 20, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Well if you have a good team, you’ll probably earn more credits

thorn shale Jun 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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What that is not fair. Why does NA get not nearly as much time to play

left portal Jun 20, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Less teams

pale finch Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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^

proud holly Jun 21, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Some of the Team Names tho lmao

livid galleon Jun 22, 2020, 1:44 AM

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na's team name game is very strong

proud holly Jun 22, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Amusingly, you can kinda determine the potency of the NA teams just by their team name

stiff haven Jun 22, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I have been experiencing lag issues in quick tournaments, anyone else has the same issue?

chilly terrace Jun 22, 2020, 8:15 AM

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What that is not fair. Why does NA get not nearly as much time to play
@thorn shale
Because there are not enough teams on NA and ASIA to play for 7 hours. To be honest, RU and EU have much rounds against opponents from other rounds for the first 4 hours. If we do the same for NA or ASIA there will be several teams which will face each other in different rounds. I don't think that any team would like to play 2-4 times in a row against the same team.

winter swallow Jun 22, 2020, 8:54 AM

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As a general note - the fact that this channel is tremendously critical is a good thing.

This is a contact point for well formed opinions from top level players of the game. It's a brilliant resource for WG to troubleshoot tournament issues.

Positive comments aren't needed. If something isn't being criticised it is either fine or a minor/non issue.

If WG want pats on the back for tournament linked items they should make a separate channel for it or periodically request such comments here.

I'll start : I like that WG have made it easier for players to access and locate tournament streams in game and that the content is being promoted more prominently. This started late 2019 and has improved throughout 2020. BUT - these were comments/recommendations made 3+ years ago by @astral dove

So keep that in mind on the points being made here. It will probably take 3 years for WG to turnaround and implement 😆

thorn shale Jun 22, 2020, 6:41 PM

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@thorn shale @thorn shale use the #tourneys-team-search channel

livid galleon Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 PM

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TJ is a chelsea fan? 🤢
I agree with rolling, they have done a really good job with promoting streams, especially with rewards like season coins or those twister crates.

fast hareBOT Jun 22, 2020, 10:02 PM

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dynoSuccess SexyZiege#9460 was banned

thorn shale Jun 23, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Hi guys

graceful jetty Jun 23, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Annual reminder of the 62 A32 parts that i got during spring season 2019 by playing every tournament. Still dont have the tank and there haven't been anymore parts in the shop or given as rewards. Pls I just want A32 :(

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random siren Jun 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I got 10 WZ-120-G FT parts.

proud holly Jun 23, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I wish we can exchange those parts

livid galleon Jun 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I still have 50 black friday emblems

warped obsidian Jun 23, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I sold my A32 long time ago :')

tough zenith Jun 24, 2020, 5:24 PM

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When are bronze series (or any other tournaments on Tuesdays and Thursdays NA time) coming back?

steady oasis Jun 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Are u guys going to add back the spectate button?

coarse owl Jun 25, 2020, 1:45 AM

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How do u guys leave a tournament???? I joined one becuase they needed players and now they are just being disrespectful to me and i cant battle unless i leave and they wont let me battle either so im just in the queue waiting

hardy prairie Jun 25, 2020, 1:45 AM

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you cant

steady oasis Jun 25, 2020, 1:50 AM

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u could just disband the team

coarse owl Jun 25, 2020, 1:51 AM

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how???? ive tried everything and this slowmode is annoying as heck. I cant trust players in clans anymore.

steady oasis Jun 25, 2020, 1:56 AM

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we're kissing

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balmy rune Jun 25, 2020, 1:58 AM

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your tournaments servers suck so bad right now. we cant even deal with it right now. plz fix

upbeat cloud Jun 25, 2020, 1:59 AM

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@coarse owl u can’t

steady oasis Jun 25, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Fix the tournaments

red vapor Jun 25, 2020, 3:07 AM

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How do u guys leave a tournament???? I joined one becuase they needed players and now they are just being disrespectful to me and i cant battle unless i leave and they wont let me battle either so im just in the queue waiting
@coarse owl lmao, being disrespectful 🤣

proud holly Jun 25, 2020, 3:23 AM

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to be fair, some clans can be toxic

chilly terrace Jun 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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your tournaments servers suck so bad right now. we cant even deal with it right now. plz fix
@balmy rune There is not any "tournament server". This is the same as you usually play. It would be helpful if you describe issue in details.

arctic axle Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 AM

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@coarse owl this is why you never join a random team.

coarse owl Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 PM

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ir wasnt random.... My friend from ROCKN said that this team needed more players so I joined and they didnt even invite me to the discord where they were chatting

fathom tiger Jun 25, 2020, 1:47 PM

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did you ask tho?

thorn shale Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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😋

fossil lance Jun 25, 2020, 7:16 PM

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@chilly terrace well dont know why only tournys were lagging hard yesterday then when normal battles were workin ok

balmy rune Jun 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

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@chilly terrace the issue last night was very bad lag.

glass thunder Jun 26, 2020, 11:45 AM

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when tier x tournament's back to the game?

chilly terrace Jun 26, 2020, 12:20 PM

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when tier x tournament's back to the game?
@glass thunder They are in the game right now.

glass thunder Jun 26, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@chilly terrace well i mean normal tournaments and not QT's , sorry for not mention that

chilly terrace Jun 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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@chilly terrace well i mean normal tournaments and not QT's , sorry for not mention that
@glass thunder I don't think that they will be earlier then in August

glass thunder Jun 26, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Oh really bad news

atomic tartan Jun 26, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Hmmm whats with these people joining randoms and complaining about a bad experience lmao

proud holly Jun 27, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I’d rather complain about the wack servers. Laggy lol.

flat goblet Jun 27, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Alright normally I wouldn't but I experienced tourney server lag firsthand, thought it was a myth. Turns out it is not, well played WG.

proud holly Jun 27, 2020, 3:33 AM

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i personally didnt experience it but a bunch of my mates got screwed over

thorn shale Jun 27, 2020, 4:00 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/ur0BEgW

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Horrid Server Lag (WoT Blitz Tier X Quick Tournament)

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@chilly terrace @frosty nexus I know you guys don’t deal directly with technical issues, but here is a video showing horrible horrible server side lag in the tier X quick tournament we had last night. Anyone else who played last night can tell you how bad it was in some of the quick tournament matches. This seems to be a very serious issue and as far as I’m aware was not happening with this severity in public matches.

silver vapor Jun 27, 2020, 4:27 AM

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this literally was the same for Asia during professionals and 0 attention was given and we were told that it was something out of their control

thorn shale Jun 27, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@silver vapor did you have video proof tho? 😛

silver vapor Jun 27, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I wasn't the one who were complaining but ok https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/521999784991522817/708185122993602640
keep scrolling @thorn shale

thorn shale Jun 27, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@silver vapor didn’t mean it in a bad way, I didn’t didn’t remember any video being posted

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But yea that clip is horrid

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Although I will say that clip is a replay so it doesn’t show whether the ping was good for the client or not