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distant tusk
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Yeah LOCA Vs EG @gentle sierra
Sorry I was excited when I saw Loca

bold yarrow
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kk thx

supple quartz
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You're surely excited because OP ArianaGrande is in their team @distant tusk ๐Ÿ‘€

distant tusk
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@silver vapor watch my stream I'll tell u EU secrets

gentle sierra
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Oulala

distant tusk
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But my Commentary would be fair yeah , so no favors

slim oak
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#Rolling2Minsk

distant tusk
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#PKBuySelfTicketToMinsk I'll do free Commentary ๐Ÿ˜‚

leaden belfry
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๐Ÿ‘€ points at nick =)

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meanwhile, all you people from North - I'll be streaming your games today =)

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Official stream will show EG vs LOCA, PK as well, I'm streaming Ra1d vs W1N

distant tusk
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#AmaunetFromNorth

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess RG [EG-]#2125 has been warned.

agile depot
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๐Ÿ˜‚

wicked snow
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@blissful cobalt you do realise I'm from Africa right ? I'm racist against my self buddy?

blissful cobalt
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The comment isnt appropriate, I dont care who said it.

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿค”

latent olive
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meanwhile I am streaming the Challenger Tour - which I know you are all interested in ๐Ÿ™‚

wicked snow
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Good mod gj keep up the good work )

vital obsidian
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Gj @latent olive ๐Ÿ‘

crisp shore
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#Rolling2Minsk #Fugit2Minsk #Amau2Minsk

dense mulch
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Tourney soon! ๐Ÿ˜‰

thorn shale
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#Rolling2Minsk #Fugit2Minsk #Amau2Minsk

wicked snow
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If only we didnt play today ๐Ÿคฃ

thorn shale
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Hello so who moved to the final stage?? FBI or WIN?

lapis epoch
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Smh w1n

leaden belfry
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W1N based on total victories in the head to heads between FBI, W1N and Carna

last stratus
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

dense mulch
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Carnage performed so well. Did not expect that from them in previous tourneys.

lapis epoch
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Nobody did lol

thorn shale
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Oh lol congrats W1N!
Yeah lol what happened to CARNA. I was expecting them to be there thats for sure.

dense mulch
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Is LOCA playing today?

lapis epoch
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Yes, vs EG-

thorn shale
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Everyone is playing today...

dense mulch
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In that case, I wish you the best.

lapis epoch
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๐Ÿ˜‡

thorn shale
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Everybody kinda expected R2K to fail tho

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Its gonna be between EG and LOCA in my opinion. At least i hope so. New faces in twister

lapis epoch
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I think more like raid vs ...

wicked snow
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Tbf ra1d r really good @thorn shale

thorn shale
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Every team is really good if they are top 4 in EU...

lapis epoch
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Yea but they beat nearly everyone

wicked snow
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When I say rly good I mean even for us top4 teams we see ra1d like an extremely strong team

thorn shale
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EU is the hardest server and most competitive so I hope to see EU clan win the twister again

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Whoever wins, Im watching it all. And I cheer for everyone now

lapis epoch
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At like eg vs loca stage its balanced, generally fight goes until 4:3 etc. but with raid we get rekt 1:4

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Idk if eg played them yet tho

silver vapor
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also, a full BO9 is really tiring ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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tho the same also goes for 3 consecutive days of BO7+ tournaments. my mental state is eh now

lapis epoch
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Its gonna be bo9 now?

silver vapor
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@lapis epoch the 1st match of upper bracket and 1st match of lower bracket is BO7, everything else is BO9

lapis epoch
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Thats a long fight

silver vapor
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also the map choice is a bit questionable.

Dynasty's Pearl for Tour 7 + 1st Upper bracket + 2nd upper bracket

magic bay
latent olive
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lol

summer pivot
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@magic bay Google is absolutely listening to our conversations

lapis epoch
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lol

magic bay
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coincidence rlly thank u nasa

digital reef
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Time for my magical predictions: w1n are gonna easy clap ra1d in first round

gentle sierra
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@silver vapor isnt it bo7 for the first 2 matches ?

digital reef
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It is, the first match for all teams is bo7

silver vapor
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@gentle sierra read regulations again lol

gentle sierra
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Im bored tho๐Ÿ˜ญ

digital reef
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First game is bo7 the everything else bo9

distant tusk
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Make it BO100

silver vapor
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@gentle sierra if BO7 den explain how we 5-4 TN_MN unless I'm so mentally dead rn I can't tell between BO7 and BO9 now

digital reef
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But you can't... It has to be an odd number

gentle sierra
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Get some sleep @silver vapor๐Ÿ˜„

distant tusk
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I am looking forward for a tournament where Knopka and Rexy will be Captains of Tournaments team and they will get 6 players of there choice. I'll host it and BO9, map choice in @silver vapor hands

digital reef
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Did you win last game on damage caused? Or did your kill go in first @silver vapor

silver vapor
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@digital reef apparently our kill registered first

digital reef
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That doesn't sound right but okey, was an interesting tie breaker then

silver vapor
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Also that was against E7, 4-1

The Game after that was TN_MN 5-4 where we rushed a bit with gamble

distant tusk
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When nothing works say hi to Rush

silver vapor
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IDK. I can't tell which game you're actually talking about ๐Ÿ˜ž @Rolling2Minsk#048

digital reef
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Ah right sorry but still an interesting game even though both teams lost all tanks it was time

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Go sleep maddox noobka @silver vapor

silver vapor
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<living sample of going insane after 3 consecutive days of BO7+ @chilly terrace pls fix me ๐Ÿ˜ต

dim pivot
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More like going insane after having to play a bo9 just after bo7

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i just get so bored if i play the game continuously

barren gate
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@thorn shale tbh EG is not rly new. Looks a lot like ER0S or BIG GAME in 2018 with some new faces but still an ยซย oldย ยป team .so we just changed the name finally ๐Ÿ˜… + we won pro tourney with same guys (most likely)

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Also Rg is right, RA1D are rly good. Maybe even the best team atm

digital reef
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LGN 2nd > EG
2nd team beat top team so they superior

summer pivot
timber grotto
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I predict LGN will come back and beat everyone

hoary ridge
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Can WE Just use your prediction as final result? @summer pivot

remote tinsel
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@hoary ridge xd

digital reef
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W1N > RA1D

thorn shale
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W1N started strong, this's going to be close

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess simo_vito[-BA]#3648 has been warned.

summer pivot
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Raid lost ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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come on raid

digital reef
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SKAAAL

shell vault
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lulw

digital reef
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Torilla tavataan!!!!

distant tusk
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๐Ÿ˜‚

pale finch
digital reef
median mason
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Pog

elder fjord
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Torille!

median mason
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#W1N2Minsk

pale finch
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#W1NSK

rancid scarab
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#Rolling2Minsk

summer pivot
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Hope we go to tiebreaker so I can get all 4 containers

frozen schooner
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Jez

dapper vigil
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Why do the finalists of the challengers only get a certificate for the camo, and not the ability to put it on all tier 10s?

digital reef
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cuz they challengers and not top8

dapper vigil
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Doesnโ€™t mean that we should only get a certificate for one tank for the tank fest camo

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We should have the ability to put the tankfest camo on all our tier 10s at least

digital reef
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

velvet dome
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Bruh, if that's painful for u, imagine getting into top 8 of the tourney but only top 4 get the professional camo, when before two major tourneys in a row the top 8 teams got it @dapper vigil

dapper vigil
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Smh. Wg playing too much now

velvet dome
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Well with all the t22 bundles sold, u would expect more prizes. Also, imo, the t22 really has become a main stay for tourneys. Like it's been great seeing the 215b and e5 and foch come into their own for the tourney, but for mt? No tech tree tank can really compete with it in terms of sheer luck.

digital reef
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ah I am glad I have my pro camo โค best camo

leaden belfry
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Epic games all around today, people

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Thank you for letting us have the pleasure to watch/stream those =)

latent olive
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indeed, some Epic games in Challenger also tonight, well played IMMOR - who are already into the final

tranquil seal
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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Thanks @latent olive! Awesome work with the streams!

digital reef
latent olive
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@tranquil seal thx mate ๐Ÿ™‚

native flume
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How i'm supposed to claim my crates and avatar for watching the lives pls?

digital reef
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it will come in time if it does not come in a day you should contact staff

leaden belfry
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@native flume they'll be added automatically to your account if you were logged in

native flume
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On the game? Cuz i've already logged in but nothing..

digital reef
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it takes some time

tender shell
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@thorn shale English only please

rain hornet
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How to have exp

tender shell
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@rain hornet ?

leaden belfry
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@native flume I've just received them

supple quartz
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#Rolling2Minsk

pure lava
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๐Ÿ™

misty rampart
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#Rolling2Minsk

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

gaunt mist
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@winter swallow insert "where are my containers" joke here

thanks for streaming the tournaments for us btw

tidal wraith
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Hello :3

latent olive
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great stuff in the NA Challengers tonight, SCAMO thru to Grand Final at the expense of Krono - great games however and worth the watch ๐Ÿ˜‰

dapper vigil
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@latent olive we didnโ€™t get eliminated though. Just have to go to finals lower bracket

native flume
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@leaden belfry ,yeah thanks. I just wake up and logged in and receive them too. Take some time like @jade ferry said. Thanks a lot

digital reef
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#W1NSK

latent olive
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@dapper vigil very true indeed

vital obsidian
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@latent olive thanks for streaming eu ๐Ÿ‘

latent olive
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@vital obsidian NP mate ๐Ÿ™‚

vital obsidian
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Will you stream Sunday aswell?

latent olive
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Should be streaming Sunday yes

vital obsidian
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๐Ÿ‘

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

winter swallow
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#Rolling2Bed

leaden belfry
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^ #rollingwinstheinternet

pure lava
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๐Ÿ‘€

winter swallow
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so.... MERCY beating 7STAR 5:4 ๐Ÿ‘€

leaden belfry
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now he's sleepdiscording

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oh dear

halcyon sluice
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no crates in NA stream again? just curious.

winter swallow
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@leaden belfry I'm at work

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have been since around 0630am ....

leaden belfry
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danggg don't envy you, hun o_o

summer pivot
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I really want 7STAR to go to offlines

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They are the best

versed field
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I call them. Dinnery.

pure lava
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๐Ÿค”

fringe galleon
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Tumppi hold your horses๐Ÿ˜‚

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

solemn kettle
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Invite

green plover
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English only @autumn citrus no foreign languages allowed here.

grim spoke
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I want to join tournament, should I create my or should I try to join every team?

green plover
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@grim spoke

low badger
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Moe moderating question mark emoji?

green plover
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just being a helping hand ๐Ÿ™‚

slender fern
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What are season coins used for? And why donโ€™t they show in my garage

digital reef
tired lark
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If you click on the twister 2019 logo in garage then look up in your right corner you can see how many twiste coins you have

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess Limitzone#4802 has been warned.

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿค”

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess merazmu_s#1778 has been warned.

pure lava
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๐Ÿค”

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

supple quartz
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#Rolling2Minsk

elder fjord
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^^^

green plover
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@waxen ember English only here.

green orchid
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#_Moe4Mod

pure lava
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Go mod

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess Mister Robby#6234 has been warned.

green orchid
faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess eatable7#6272 has been warned.

magic nova
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So I started a tournament but for some reason I'm not able to see my team

median mason
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๐Ÿ™„

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess ะะฝะดั€ะตะน ะ’ะฐะฒะธะปะพะฒ#4117 has been warned.

shrewd summit
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I believe since this is where tournament discussions take place this is where my suggestion would belong.

I received a survey earlier today and one of the questions was essentially: "What if mad games/realistic battles were a part of ratings?"

(Bear with me for a second)

Rather than implementing it like that why not have mad games themed/realistic tournaments? Effectively it changes the the stagnant meta for specific vehicles used in tournaments over and over as well as similar tactics being used.

Thinking about it in terms of streaming content imagine Wargaming streaming Mad Games Tournaments, this would utilize new mechanics like Healing allies, using movement mechanics for normally unreachable sniping spots, and different ways to stealth.

As for realistic battles being a tournament format, I certainly think limited HUD, and more straightened out Damage and Armor penetration mechanics would make it more interesting to watch our top players from Pramo, FEAST, Lgn, and C4 go at it.

Basically make tournaments a little more diverse as well as spice up potential tactics and content Wargaming advertises with.

timber grotto
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We recommended mad games tournaments almost a year ago when they first came out. WG paid no attention.

shrewd summit
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It was too new, they didn't know if it was gonna be popular enough

floral python
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@shrewd summit pretty sure they did at the time we recommended, considering first day of first season of mad games russian server had over 6k players waiting in queue, and thats just the first hour, later on servers ofc got overcooked and crashed resetting alot of things but still, it was noticed that attention from player base is given.

thorn shale
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yop

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess Sektor#3892 was banned

elder fjord
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#Rolling2Minsk

supple quartz
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#Rolling2Minsk

median mason
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#W1N2MINSK

versed field
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#Rolling2W1NSK

vital obsidian
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#BestTeam2Minsk

digital reef
winter swallow
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I am and have been advocating for MAD GAMES tournaments since forever. I sat down with WG at Tankfest 2019 and that was my primary request...

digital reef
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LET"S GET BLITZ MOBA

winged anchor
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Iโ€™m not seeing a mad games tourney happening anytime soon. I simply donโ€™t think the idea is balanced well enough to do it

thorn shale
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Abybody will play tournament?

gentle sierra
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E7 legends

thorn shale
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Ns

green plover
gentle sierra
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Using a 4202 in comp

thorn shale
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Wanna play?

green plover
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Bro go check the channel I just tagged you with

gentle sierra
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#moe4mod

magic bay
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4202 is op tbh

dim pivot
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4202 destroying a t22, that t22 shall forever be a meme

silver vapor
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FV4202 destroyed T-22

gentle sierra
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#4202tooopaddincrates

oak veldt
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#TechTreeTank>CrateTank

digital reef
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Yo anyone got the MM- clan logo or server link ?

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I am waiting for the VOD so I could meme that @silver vapor

thorn shale
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lol

winter swallow
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NA predictions for tonight?

night trench
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Whats with NA having such one sided battles

median mantle
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EU predictions for tonight @winter swallow ?

winter swallow
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TBH - no idea. RA1D smashed LOCA 4-1 in group stages. But LOCA locked in 1000 more cups in the Ascents...

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Both teams ended up 6-1 from pro group stage.

night trench
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Wtf thats insane

winter swallow
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LOCA conceded 17 rounds in the group stage.

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RA1D conceded 15 rounds in the group stage

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So to be very, very honest - it's a close run thing performance wise thus far between the two teams. Lemme check map pools and Ascent encounters...

median mantle
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I canโ€™t wait to watch it

winter swallow
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OK - RA1D vs LOCA tour 7 was Dynasty, Faust and Mayan Ruins.

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tonight it will be Black Goldville, Castilla, Rockfield and Canal (tie breaker)

So map wise, pro result might be so useful.

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LOCA andRA1D never met in non-ticketed Ascents

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RA1D beat LOCA 2-0 in the semi finals of ticketed Ascent #3

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿ‘€

winter swallow
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So....

  1. LOCA placed higher than RA1D in the Ascent tournaments by just under 1,000 cups (2nd place versus 4th place)

  2. RA1D and LOCA have met twice in the Twister qualifiers so far:
    i) Ticketed Ascent #3 semi finals - RA1D 2-0 LOCA
    ii) Tour 7 Professional Tournament - RA1D 4-1 LOCA

  3. RA1D have beaten LOCA 6-1 in across the two season head to heads

  4. LOCA conceded 17 rounds in Professional Tournament group stage whilst RA1D only conceded 15 (however, 4 of LOCA's losses come from RA1D)

digital reef
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Ok, taking into account all the black magic rules and curses, I have decided that LOCA is gonna win against RA1D but lose to W1N

winter swallow
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Based on the above information, I am expecting RA1D to beat LOCA.

digital reef
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ah you haven't taken into account that RA1D took the 1st place in top8 so that brings them the curse of GGAME which causes any team to lose in top4

median mantle
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Surgical analysis @winter swallow ๐Ÿ™‚ obviously I hope u are wrong. We will see!

green plover
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Why are you making predictions.... just wait until the match happens so that way itโ€™s more edge of seat entertainment.

winter swallow
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@digital reef true for CARNA who didn't even make le cut

bleak crypt
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I mean LOCA can turn on some god mode and beat RA1D

gentle sierra
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that escalated quickly

green plover
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^

winter swallow
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I wouldn't know because my predictions are pure trash these days lol

magic bay
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UN1 wins it

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿค”

winter swallow
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oh yus Challenger EU actually important lol#

magic bay
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challenger>twister

digital reef
median mantle
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Why u lie? @magic bay ESA top 1

winter swallow
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re: Wild Card tournament! .... idk about CIS though. From wht I see I think the CIS teams outside top 8 are not super hot -

digital reef
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i wish for 2 EU teams in offlines

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Aight I am gonna go make some sacrifices to satan for my predictions to come true

winter swallow
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RNGesus ***

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿ˜ณ

digital reef
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welp whoever it is I hope it likes goat

winter swallow
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Satan has no power here @digital reef . Only RNGesus can provide the results you seek.

viscid ferry
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Hello, is there a section on this server for developers to ask questions about the WG API ?

past marlin
viscid ferry
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It's not a question about the UI, i'm talking about the API reference

digital reef
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@thorn shale help this guy

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess Rolling2Minsk#0483 has been warned.

leaden belfry
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Meanwhile, I'm not so sure about Ra1d taking it home. It's near impossible to call. Head to head, raid may have had the advantage, but Loca seems to be performing much more steadily

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@viscid ferry well, the tournament channel definitely isn't the place for that, but that being said I'm not sure what channel would suit ๐Ÿค”

winter swallow
viscid ferry
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@winter swallow but you can't ask questions there

magic bay
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I'll say RA1D will win

winter swallow
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true @viscid ferry - maybe DM a WG staffer?

viscid ferry
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@winter swallow can you DM me a name please

winter swallow
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@viscid ferry start with @chilly terrace - he can point you in the right direction perhaps.

viscid ferry
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@winter swallow Thank you ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

silver vapor
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@viscid ferry WG API related to tournaments?

viscid ferry
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@silver vapor Yes sir !

silver vapor
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yeah then probably ask rexy to see about that. It would help if they actually make that part of the API work again

viscid ferry
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@silver vapor Thank you mate, I'll DM him

green plover
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@hexed cloak English only here

hexed cloak
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Tk my brother

distant tusk
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Hello , I am ill so I can't stream wg Tournaments. Sorry clans I am not able to make it

summer pivot
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Counter is jot working

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Whyyyy it's not working

topaz charm
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@chilly terrace @frosty nexus the EU reward system is not working at all
been like this from the beginning.

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I expect a GREAT compensation for this.

median mason
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Lol, It does work. The counter is just bugged

green plover
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"I expect a GREAT compensation for this." lol what

topaz charm
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I still do.
Just because we have no clue how far I am so idk when I can go to sleep.
You guys want to moan at me that is fine not my problem.

hoary dome
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@median mason keep watching, it counts background.

median mason
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Lol

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Just keep the tab open and close it at 10pm #ez

hoary dome
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At the same time ๐Ÿคฃ

strong knot
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ะ ั€ัƒััะบะธะต ะตัั‚ัŒ ??

pallid raven
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@chilly terrace timer stoped working on EU livestream

strong knot
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Russia russian ???

hoary dome
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ะฟะพั‡ะตะผัƒ ะฝะตั‚

median mason
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#loca2Minsk ||sry w1n||

strong knot
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@hoary dome @hoary dome

summer pivot
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Timer not working fix it now or give us the rewards after it ends anyway

pallid raven
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Rexy is online, so I assume he is working a fix

hoary cobalt
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Timer is working

urban hull
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I cnt claim my containers from the live feed I got two , any help in getting them ,thanks

hoary cobalt
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Wait for end of the stream

thorn shale
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Is fixed

urban hull
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Thank you

thorn shale
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But we lost a half a hour

hoary cobalt
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you lost nothing man

pallid raven
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@chilly terrace gj

median mantle
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LOCA played a couple of amazing matches and all u guys care about is containers ๐Ÿ˜น

digital reef
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aren't the containers only like a few credits and free xp

hoary cobalt
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The timer blocked but still counting it just a bug you will still get all your 4 chest if you watch the stream from the start to the end

digital reef
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Ello Flourin noob

thorn shale
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Hope you re right

hoary cobalt
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@digital reef?

digital reef
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Dis is Kiwi

pallid raven
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no, its someone pretending to be kiwi, dont be fooled

hoary cobalt
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Haha go back to the stream xdd

summer pivot
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Still not fixed

hoary dome
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@digital reef actually the containers for coins which you might get fcm 50 premium 8 tier tanks by them

digital reef
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Woah dude a tier 8 prem damn

hoary cobalt
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No he is kiwi piwi xddd

digital reef
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Underscore plebs ๐Ÿ™‚

hoary cobalt
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๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ now i know he is the true 1

digital reef
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โค

median mason
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#loca2minsk

median mantle
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#margot2mink @median mason

median mason
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๐ŸŒˆ

median mantle
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Pog?!

median mason
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Pog indeed

digital reef
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#W1NSK

thorn shale
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So close with W1N and Loca.... my hands are sweating๐Ÿ˜‚

faint scaffoldBOT
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dynoSuccess ะฒะพะปะพะดะธะผะธั€#9619 has been warned.

median mason
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#loca2minsk

digital reef
median mason
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I keep seeing this pic. Who is this guy?

digital reef
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I don't know but Torille !!!

median mason
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๐Ÿค”

digital reef
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Great games from W1N always giving us a good show

gleaming pollen
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He is crazy Finnish person after hockey championship

median mason
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So he's not a W1N member? :D @gleaming pollen

gleaming pollen
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Maybe ;)

median mason
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๐Ÿค”

summer pivot
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FGreat games .,I wish we had more exciting games with RAID and loca but the luck works GG LOCA

latent olive
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Congrats LOCA in Pro Tour and APA in Challengers tour, some great games tonight indeed!

fringe galleon
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Tough loss, I hope you enjoyed watching our games. Im proud of my team, even though we couldnt reach our goal. GL to Loca and EG to finals. Both of you go to minsk ๐Ÿ’ช

thorn shale
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It was very good to watch, very nice games

winter swallow
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is drained

gentle sierra
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Great games

median mason
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@fringe galleon the games were so close. GG W1N!

summer pivot
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Enjoying without crates is painful. But you did it guys

thin sage
#

How can someone care of crates with bs fcm instead of watching those beautiful games by both teams..

median mason
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FCM comes with camo and an avatar

grim spoke
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I want reward there will be another match today?

summer pivot
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Just trying to get any thing free from WG as WG try to get our money

thin sage
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Lol๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ ikr, but still..

grim spoke
#

I buy box, chest or whatever name is (that daily boxes( and I wish I didn't, 2000 gold and nothing ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I wish there was a more way to earn free gold

leaden belfry
#

absolutely amazing games tonight, Loca, W1N, Ra1d

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Absolute joy to watch

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and SO close o_o

median mason
#

pog

fringe galleon
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Thanks ๐Ÿ˜‡

vital obsidian
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gj W1N and thanks for warm ups

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so close, next time its yours ๐Ÿ‘

fringe galleon
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Thanks for warming up and we had problems and you had to wait ๐Ÿ‘Œ

vital obsidian
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discord had a problem ๐Ÿ˜ก

fringe galleon
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Yep we prepared teamspeak ready. We played first games vs loca with teamspeak

median mason
#

Wow, that's rare to see anyone from blitz using ts

fringe galleon
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Well our players downloaded it today..xD

median mason
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Private server? W1N only?

summer pivot
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Lucky u win people

fringe galleon
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Our disc is private, idk who owned ts server, my bro invited us

median mason
#

I see

hoary cobalt
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You guys dont think the consumable that buff hp on fv215 b is not fair in tournaments if the team stall and play the waiting game fv 215 b with a maus hp and med dpm ๐Ÿ˜‚

turbid sinew
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It's not unfair as it's available for everyone, unlike t22

gentle sierra
#

yikes

green plover
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@turbid sinew goodjob flower ๐Ÿ™‚

turbid sinew
#

๐ŸŒป ๐Ÿ’œ

green plover
#

Goodluck tmrw

turbid sinew
#

Ty flower

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I will kill snakes

green plover
#

Yes start with whoopzie

dapper vigil
#

@latent olive are you streaming?

latent olive
#

@dapper vigil i was indeed - YT had a hissy fit to start and didnt send out notifications or anything, but the whole stream was live

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Congrats to 4LATAM in getting into tomorrows grand final in the Challengers, where they face off against SCAMO - disappointment for Lolipower & The Kraken, who both played amazingly but just couldnt dislodge 4LATAM who were riding high tonight

thorn shale
#

Hii all

supple quartz
#

#Rolling2Minsk

topaz charm
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#rolling2minsk

median mason
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#loca2minsk

agile depot
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#loca2minsk

fringe galleon
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#Mroz2minsk

median mason
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๐Ÿ™„

topaz charm
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or is it Rolling2Linsk now๐Ÿ˜‚

summer pivot
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#Minsk2rolling

gentle sierra
#

#mroz2minsk

fathom tiger
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#Pawel2minsk

gentle sierra
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@median mason buy your ticket

median mason
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@fathom tiger open

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@gentle sierra no

gentle sierra
#

Pretty rood @median mason

median mason
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๐Ÿ‘€

fathom tiger
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No

torn parcel
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Asia final countdown :0

lament lake
#

Hi

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๐Ÿ‘€

ruby ginkgo
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Hi

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๐Ÿ˜’

wicked snow
#

HerrPawel2Minsk

median mason
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๐ŸŒˆ

digital reef
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#ShortMaddox

inner ice
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A watched a live stream and didnโ€™t get my container and avatar :/

digital reef
#

rip

inner ice
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Does it have to be live? Because i didnโ€™t watch it live but it still said I could get rewards

bright valley
#

Where do the rewards show up? Steam said I got both containers but I don't see them in my storage

summer pivot
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7STAR is OP

green plover
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@inner ice you receive containers only if you watch them LIVE and youโ€™re logged into your wotb acc on the official website, if you watch the stream after itโ€™s done you wonโ€™t get any containers.

@bright valley the containers will be in the storage section in the garage it should be under the shop icon. You just tap โ€œstorageโ€ then you go to the middle tab which should say โ€œcontainersโ€.

inner ice
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Ah that explains it, kinda sucks tho because the streams start at 3am for me

bright valley
#

Crates just appeared in my storage, but I can't open them, just shows the spinning blitz logo on them

green plover
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Refresh app maybe?

thorn shale
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I think PRAMO is going to redeem themselves tonight and Iโ€™m looking forward to it
#pramo4thewin

sleek summit
#

ะทะดะฐั€ะพะฒะฐ ั‰ะตะณะปั‹

green plover
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@sleek summit English only.

gentle sierra
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#moe4mod

bright valley
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@green plover that worked, along with switching network. Thanks!

green plover
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Np mate

digital reef
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Moe the biggest of mods

wicked snow
#

Who won Asia?

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OOOO ma boi got da win @silver vapor Herras op

summer pivot
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Too close but feast did it

night trench
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:((((

silver vapor
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we choked so hard

wicked snow
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Even if feast won to be fair I have so much respect for E7 for being a team that likes to experiment and troll ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ this guys r legends so Gj boys as well @night trench

daring dune
#

๐Ÿธ

silver vapor
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anyone watched the stream would choke on themselves as well๐Ÿ˜–

short tundra
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I enjoy seeing 7 bat chat ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

daring dune
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7 progetto better

short tundra
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Nah, 7 Foch or 7 Death Star is a better sight.
@night trench you guys did good, be proud. Next time better.

last stratus
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#rolling2minsk

thorn shale
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Is RU before EU?

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For the tournament times. I know Asia has finished their tournaments

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@tall python who do you think will win EU finals. Im thinking -EG

tall python
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RU is in 30 minutes, and hm itโ€™s tricky. itโ€™s hard to tell if all i have are the streams from the group stages and what not. LOCA had an impressive group stage, but EG came into bracket play and werenโ€™t playing around. iโ€™d probably have to lean on EG just based on that honestly. excited for the games though

thorn shale
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Me too. Eu and NA have the best battles. Iโ€™m rooting for Pramo and -EG

wicked snow
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It wont be easy loca r some decent players and smart minds , But also ex team mates :p will be some good stuff

leaden belfry
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I'm definitely trusting that

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Love that it's quite impossible to call a winner before the matches have been played, tbh ^_^

fathom tiger
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Isnt it 50/50 afterall

toxic lintel
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At least it wasnโ€™t as bad as mercyโ€™s 2v2 on match point @silver vapor

silver vapor
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@toxic lintel erm, part of it is actually as bad lmao, ngl

toxic lintel
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But you won in the end lol

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That game actually left a mark on me and I was watching only. Wonder how it feels for the players actually playing

silver vapor
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imo our win is a bit undeserved, heck our game last year vs -ID- was a lot better hands down

dim pivot
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E7 did unexpected stuff sooo
Like very unexpected

silver vapor
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wdym unexpected. 7 bc? we knew it was coming from miles away smh

dim pivot
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berhaps we knew
Cant forget that they boosted a batchat on naval
Innovation 100

silver vapor
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I thought they'd put a leopard up instead tbh
didn't know batchat is that effective as well

dim pivot
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Thats why it was unexpected i never even thought of batchat getting boosted

oak veldt
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We actually havnt ran 7bc in a rly long time lol

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But when we 1st started last yr we were like we gotta do a 7bc at least once on stream lol so ye we finally did it i guess kek

digital reef
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๐Ÿฟ time

thorn shale
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Who won RU?

mild owl
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7STAR

pale finch
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Aye, EG- won

forest matrix
#

Gg to EG- superb team and still a lot of pretty cool guys in it.
Special gg to all former krk-s ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿ˜‰

latent olive
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wow what a night - GG EG and GG APA!

topaz charm
#

#Rolling2Minsk

leaden belfry
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amazing games tonight. Loca taking the headstart, then EG taking it back as they did. Massive congrats to both teams for doing amazingly throughout the whole tournament - but especially to EG for winning it

green plover
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Ggโ€™s to both LOCA and EG- and during the whole thing LOCA didnโ€™t use a t22 and made it to #2. Proud of LOCA. ๐Ÿ‘

leaden belfry
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I hope to see Loca take the wildcard on wednesday <3

agile depot
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@green plover we had no money for t22s ๐Ÿ˜ฐ

shadow topaz
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@latent olive thx

green plover
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@agile depot thatโ€™s the point Iโ€™m making. You guys didnโ€™t have t22โ€™s and made it 2nd, while a lot of people said t22โ€™s are so OP you guys just didnโ€™t even bother and beat them anyway.

turbid sinew
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And played fair unlike some teams ๐Ÿ™ƒ

green plover
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Yes ๐ŸŒป

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Go beat everyone in wildcard and be 2nd Eu team @turbid sinew

summer pivot
#

ะงั‚ะพะฑั‹ ะฟะพะปัƒั‡ะธั‚ัŒ ะฒั€ะตะผะตะฝะฝั‹ะน ะฐะฒะฐั‚ะฐั€ ะธ ะบะพะฝั‚ะตะนะฝะตั€ั‹ ะฑะพะปะตะปัŒั‰ะธะบะฐ ะทะฐ ะฟั€ะพัะผะพั‚ั€ ั‚ั€ะฐะฝัะปัั†ะธะธ, ะฝัƒะถะฝะพ: 1. ะŸะตั€ะตะนั‚ะธ ะฝะฐ ัั‚ั€ะฐะฝะธั†ัƒ ั‚ัƒั€ะฝะธั€ะฐ ะฝะฐ ะŸะžะ ะขะะ›ะ• - https://wotblitz.ru/ru/tou...

โ–ถ Play video
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OP rush

gentle sierra
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Have the maps for wild card been announced ?

topaz charm
#

#Rolling2Minsk

median mason
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Will all the WC matches take place on Wednesday?

median mantle
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Gg to EG for winning (and to KRKS who lives it by proxy. U too guys will shine someday ๐Ÿ˜น )@forest matrix

wicked snow
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merci frere๐Ÿ’— @median mantle

green orchid
#

#Shokkolade2Bed

tranquil seal
#

๐ŸŒป

leaden belfry
#

Massive congratulations to RGN for taking it home

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Bit surprised at how fast those matches went o_o

flat tinsel
#

Awesome win @RGN

leaden belfry
#

absolutely adored the T22 cap-move on Faust though, that was so cheeky

thorn shale
#

GGs to Pramo

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Was a great contest

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๐Ÿ’ช

pliant rampart
#

.-.

green plover
#

GG's to all of the SPEED team member's, they put up a phenomenal performance throughout the entire tournament and it was all good matches.

chilly hemlock
#

Ggโ€™s @green plover good luck at twister this year

dry flint
#

O7

chilly hemlock
#

Rep NA strong for us

green plover
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Thank's man will try to sleep at the hotel this time @chilly hemlock

chilly hemlock
#

Honestly the twister 2 hotel looked like was way nicer than what you guys were in last year

slender goblet
#

Sad you canโ€™t join us ๐Ÿ™‚

chilly hemlock
#

Maybe next year will have 8 teams

green plover
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If we win twister maybe theyโ€™ll consider giving us wildcard too ๐Ÿค”

chilly hemlock
#

Lol

leaden belfry
#

technically, that's been the argument, so I'm very curious what'll happen if you do ๐Ÿ˜

pale finch
#

NA vs EU/RU 100-200 ping wild card time

chilly hemlock
#

Nah. Bring 2 ru 2 eu 2 na 1 China 1 Asia if na wins

vague obsidian
#

@pale finch ily

pale finch
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@vague obsidian owo

vague obsidian
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โค๏ธโค๏ธ

green plover
#

Hi peter ๐Ÿ™‚ @pale finch

latent olive
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Congrats RGN and SCAMO!

obsidian vine
#

Scamo ?

latent olive
#

Challenger Tour NA - they won that

flat goblet
#

Congrats to SCAMO

latent olive
#

yeah, I was streaming the Challengers Tour - alas no Wild Card for that Tour unlike EU, but it was still a nice tour to stream ๐Ÿ™‚

vagrant phoenix
#

woohoo scamo

neon thistle
#

scamo?

rare mantle
#

They won the challengers tournament

zealous relic
#

It was a very interesting season to watch and play at the same time. Congrats to all the teams who won their spot on Minsk and also the other teams who took part on the top 8. Great games were played and streamed.

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@green plover you already won an offline event and I trust youโ€™ll do it again, with that great team you have. Wish you the best of success ๐Ÿ‘

thorn shale
#

@zealous relic congrats ๐Ÿ‘

zealous relic
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@thorn shale you too my friend. Well deserved place ๐Ÿ˜‰

green plover
#

@zealous relic hey friend, itโ€™s been a while and ggs to you guys and we will try to do better this twister ๐Ÿ˜‰.

zealous relic
#

@green plover really long time ๐Ÿ˜…
Ggs for you too and Im sure you will do a great perform.

green plover
#

@zealous relic take care buddy

winter swallow
#

goes to bed

sleek basin
#

Rolling is the real mvp, no sleep so he can stream us na nobsโค๏ธโค๏ธ

supple quartz
#

#Rolling2Minsk

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

velvet dome
#

@winter swallow congratz on 4k subs

fluid swallow
#

Rree

digital reef
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it's time for NA TO BRING IT HOME

median mason
#

No

thorn shale
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No

gentle sierra
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China #1

versed field
#

Vote for china

pure lava
#

๐Ÿ‘€

languid tendon
lost geyser
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trolls i think

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or someone making a bunch of fake accounts to win tournaments. but idk

gentle sierra
#

Seriously........

pliant peak
#

XD

silver vapor
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these are accounts that are made so that RU players who won the Challengers tournaments and 2nd on Twister cup Online finals can play on the EU server for the tournament

gentle sierra
#

Same goes for the eu teams , we wont use our accounts

silver vapor
#

o

gentle sierra
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Just like wildcard last year

scenic grotto
#

Did they get full crew skills and the credits to spend on premium ammo?

pliant peak
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i think they have everything avalible on those acc

arctic axle
#

In short it is a copy of your account but acts like a press account

winter swallow
#

^

fringe galleon
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Yep, but you cant play randoms or anything with them. Only in training rooms and wild card tournament. (Except there was a bug last time what made it possible to play randoms, idk if its fixed now)

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿคฆ

topaz charm
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#Rolling2Minsk

gentle sierra
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^^

median mason
#

#loca2minsk

gentle sierra
#

We just have to beat mercy

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what can go wrong

#

@median mason2minsk

silver vapor
#

gets focused by 4 215bs

gentle sierra
#

Those 215bs lined up on Faust , so nice ๐Ÿ˜

median mason
#

Pog

summer pivot
#

Any stream today ?

winged anchor
#

Man it feels bad Scamo canโ€™t get into the last chance thing. Seems really unfair

strong bough
#

@gentle sierra Good luck, because that's only thing that can help you against Mercy.

winter swallow
#

People keep forgetting EU been stronger than CIS last 2 years...

dim pivot
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Ikr

strong bough
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@winter swallow It history you cannot win if you're hoping for past

gentle sierra
#

I wouldnt be so sure about that ๐Ÿฟ @strong bough

winter swallow
#

Like C4 every year since 2016?

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Just gonna put it out there, I watch more tournament battles than probably anyone else. CIS is always strong but they aren't leagues ahead of the other servers. Skill is tending toward a level across all servers over time.

silver vapor
#

what are the chances of Asia this time around ๐Ÿ™ƒ

gleaming pollen
#

Better than last year

strong bough
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@winter swallow C4 is gone for good, and their unskilled manager want to participate in every twister , now it's all change. This is why this year I will bet on 7star

fringe galleon
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EU will win as always. There is no chance against EG with uncoordinated yolo rushes

gentle sierra
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^^

strong bough
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@fringe galleon If EG seeing that way, no doubt they will lose.

silver vapor
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I wouldn't call those "uncoordinated", but more like "less strategic"

fringe galleon
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Tru tru

silver vapor
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it's basically keep brute forcing and try to crush your enemies with skill and focus fire

strong bough
#

@silver vapor Interaction between RBMk and 7star always been like this. You cannot judge Team by 1 game

wheat aspen
#

@silver vapor I was watching yesterday big GG

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Ez twister cup

silver vapor
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I really wish there's more strong teams in Asia

wheat aspen
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E7 is Good

silver vapor
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they say they gonna stop after twister cup or smth ._.

wheat aspen
#

But i dont see any strong opponent for FEAST E7 only

strong bough
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@silver vapor that's the big problem for asia and na servers. They are not competitive

gentle sierra
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Lol

silver vapor
#

winning the onlines is good, but that strengthless feeling when you bring your team to the offlines just to get smacked and cooked by all of the teams there

wheat aspen
#

@gentle sierra nice gameplay yesterday too

gentle sierra
#

Thx

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Should i remind u na won mm last year ? @strong bough

wheat aspen
#

If LOCA will win wild card tourmanet it will be cool to say 2 EU teams in tiwster

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿคž

fringe galleon
#

If? Its clear they will win it. Just spot where they rush and counter it ๐Ÿ˜‰

silver vapor
#

lol

green plover
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Letโ€™s not talk about MM xd @gentle sierra

wheat aspen
#

I think LOCA and MERCY are best teams which Play wild card

gentle sierra
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hides @green plover

silver vapor
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tbh, wildcard should be the 2nd and 3rd place of EU and RU in the online finals

gentle sierra
#

Good idea

green plover
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I agree. The challenger tournament should just be for the teams that arenโ€™t the best and want to get the feel for med level gameplay.

gleaming pollen
#

It is tough to say who wins wild card

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Is it LOCA or is it APA? ๐Ÿค”

silver vapor
#

also why is the wild card a jump from BO3 (every game) all the way to BO7 (grand finals)

green plover
#

more entertainment and a chance for people to get more containers probably?

gentle sierra
#

Mercy ๐Ÿคญ @gleaming pollen

winter swallow
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@strong bough how many tournaments have you played in and what level did you reach?

strong bough
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@winter swallow Since when we talkin about me and not about twister cup. And yes I've been watching every qualification match on every server. So I have my opinion.

gentle sierra
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Yes , calling asia and na not competitive , especially na hmmm

pale finch
#

My totally neutral opinion: EU>RU>NA>ASIA>CHINA

green orchid
#

China Numba Wan

gentle sierra
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^^

strong bough
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@gentle sierra Yes, because when one team winning 5-0 in Grand final.... Let's be honest the chat was more entertaining than those games.

gentle sierra
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You can not watch them if they are not entertaining

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Or try to reach the level those teams play at ๐Ÿคท

strong bough
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Pramo were so weak against rng, it was a shame to watch

gentle sierra
#

I still dont see an arguement by you on why na is not competitive

green orchid
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Or RGN didn't let them play their game have you thought of that hmm

winter swallow
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@strong bough I'm curious as to your level of insight into the tournament scene? I see lots of CIS players saying CIS is best but they are the actual CIS comp players lol

pale finch
#

Tbh RGN yesterday were insane, itโ€™s one of the best performances Iโ€™ve seen in a competitive final

silver vapor
#

yeah, those games was very strong performance from RGN

winter swallow
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I'm only cuRios because you are talking down other players who may be much better than you??

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Aaaaand let's not forget that CIS has been champion of X-0 scores results for all tournaments for years lol.

pale finch
#

Didnโ€™t they win the first year?

strong bough
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@green orchid this is why you call the server not competitive when one team so dominant that cannot learn and improve because of the weak teams

winter swallow
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@strong bough remind me the PRAMO score in the Ascents please

gentle sierra
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What if that team goes on to win twister ? Doesnt that make the server competitive ?

winter swallow
#

Because it seems to me like you don't watch much tournament game play...

green orchid
#

Now he's calling Pramo a weak team

silver vapor
#

>According to that logic Asia is pretty competitive because of 5-4 of us choking heavily

gentle sierra
#

Yes , and Eu is not competitive cause we lost 5-2

strong bough
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@winter swallow Ascent turnament is not indicator, good team always preparing and showing they true skin on qualification

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿค”

green plover
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@strong bough why are you trying to say PRAMO is weak? What clan are you from or do you just bandwagon any winning team? CIS hasnโ€™t won anything but first twister yet they are the most โ€œcompetitiveโ€ because you can take 7 tanks and yolo rush one side?

green orchid
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

gentle sierra
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Oof

strong bough
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@green plover Soon we going to see everything.

winter swallow
#

Basically what we have is a non-comp player ( @strong bough ) discussing the intricacies of comp play with Asia and NA twister online winners.

He states NA is not competitive because one team dominates. Neglects the fact that that is basically what C4 and now 7STAR have done thus entire season and every CIS season before. Neglects the fact that PRAMO won Twister 2016 2017 2018 and Void won pro 2018 but yet it is RGN that came back to defeat the unbeatable PRAMO squad 4-0 then 5-1 then 5-0 in the last 3 match uls because they worked hard to improve.

Smh.

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿ‘€

winter swallow
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CIS are a strong server - don't get me wrong. But they will have to work hard to win twister 2019.

green orchid
#

People only like CIS cos of its dynamic aggressive cw playstyle but it doesnโ€™t mean itโ€™s actually a successful playstyle in winning twister cup

strong bough
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@winter swallow RGN is ex pramo

vital obsidian
#

I think he trolls you ๐Ÿ˜…

winter swallow
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And from my vantage point I see every year that EU scouts CIS hard. See CIS can only yolo rush. Develops counters. Wins. Unless CIS actually works hard to prepare against EU or NA this year, they will lose again.

gentle sierra
#

Do you have any arguements ? Seriously

winter swallow
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The comp scene on all servers is technically the same 100-200 players moving fluidly under different clan tags.

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Why is this? BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WORK HARDER THAN THE REST.

You want to be a top level tournament player? Ok. You need to train 4 nights a week for the next year. Good luck.

green plover
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No he doesnโ€™t have any arguments @gentle sierra heโ€™s just another one of those guys who like to watch streams and type random nonsense in chat for attention.

winter swallow
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Unless you are royal fatness in which case fml you can just stroll into the pros

green orchid
#

Armchair fan but only really there for the rewards from containers

vital obsidian
#

Yep he is giving mods something to chew on

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Congrats shock awe job

green orchid
#

Ty Kaga

gentle sierra
#

Lets go back to our usual stuff , #rolling2minsk

crisp shore
#

#rolling2minsk

silver vapor
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#lolling2minsk

vital obsidian
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#rolling2minsk

winter swallow
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I'm all up for discussion but when people start saying one server is weaker than another without presenting any tangible arguments, I will swing back to disprove the slander.

fringe galleon
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#Shokk2minsk #Rolling2minsk

versed field
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#Me2Minsk2080

green orchid
#

#GetRGaVisa @wicked snow

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

vital obsidian
#

2080 ๐Ÿค”

winter swallow
#

#LOCA4WildCard

Tag priorities please

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿคž

vital obsidian
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#Loca4wildcard

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Brian, will u stream on Wednesday?

silver vapor
#

also, I wonder what spicy meta change will be in 6.4

gentle sierra
#

Maus with speed boost and hp provisions

summer pivot
#

My prediction: MERCY will take the wild card.

mental yarrow
#

doubt there will be a meta change

silver vapor
#

they pushed 6.3 with E5 and Progetto into the meta

gentle sierra
#

Also dmg reduction consumable

versed field
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Double maus strats op

vital obsidian
#

My prediction, best ru team for wildcard is Mercy

silver vapor
#

so surely there's something for 6.4

versed field
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There is two of them, wich one๐Ÿคช

wicked snow
#

LOGA2Minsk

gentle sierra
#

2nd team ๐Ÿคญ @versed field

vital obsidian
#

Does it matter which one?

wicked snow
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Loca has a decent shot at twister tbh , I'm sure they can take on Mercy

vital obsidian
#

Agri

wicked snow
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Help , #GetRGVisa

blissful cobalt
#

@silver vapor E4 and 4202 ๐Ÿ˜‚ that could be interesting

silver vapor
#

#4202formeta2019

blissful cobalt
#

Grille maybe gets the spall liner and the reticle calibration and speed boost

oak veldt
#

#4202BestMed

thorn shale
#

๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ˜‹ ๐Ÿ˜‹

night trench
#

Yeah it beat a T-22 in a 1v1

pallid raven
#

@night trench @oak veldt

oak veldt
#

Yep lmao i watched it

peak terrace
#

4202 too OP

half urchin
#

omg ๐Ÿ˜‚

night trench
#

A solid 27/10

short tundra
#

Thanks for the video. I didn't see it during live stream, just the last part.

topaz charm
#

#Rolling2Minsk

green plover
#

Lmao

pure lava
#

๐Ÿค”

green plover
#

@pure lava Tudor mvp

pure lava
#

no u

craggy sapphire
#

๐Ÿค”

vapid furnace
austere forge
#

Since we are coming to the end of Twister season Iโ€™d like to ask the devs to think about implementing a change for big tourneys like Spring Season and Twister.....change the seeding of these tournaments. We played in every Ascent tournament possible in both seasons. Being matched in the first round against the likes of Pramo reign heartless etc is very discouraging to a clan that just isnโ€™t on that level....yet. For all of these tournaments itโ€™s open to 132 clans and a lot of times thereโ€™s only 15-20 teams signed up. If you change the seeding so that like clans fight each other and win cups and chests it may energize the player base and get more teams competing which in turn would equal more revenue for wargaming

gentle sierra
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Same thing was discussed a while ago , changing the seeding so weak teams fight each other and stong ones fight other strong teams means that more strong teams will be knocked out and replaced by weaker ones , which doesnt really seem logical

pale finch
#

I felt like the qualifiers this year were too time consuming whilst the main event itself was too short. Preferred how it used to be.

thorn shale
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Literally asking to be placed higher while not playing at that level, seems like a meme to me.

fringe galleon
#

We have lower wr than other top5 clans. Are we crying?

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Wr doesnt mean anything in top8 online final games. If you cant get there, you are just not good enough

gentle sierra
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^^

flat goblet
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The point is getting more participation, but at the end of the day, twister and professional tourneys aren't meant for that sort of thing.

green orchid
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Do you want to see the best representatives of your server region or not

thorn shale
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I say we let VON go

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Rgn are noobs anyways

forest matrix
#

I think he was more about the qualifiers stage. It is true that seeding with very little teams create significant bias and that individual winrate is not a relevant measure of team value (just as u said with win). At least WG should consider having some smarter method than the current one with the bunch of stats they have in their hands.

And guys just to say, itโ€™s not all about getting the top top clans but also having more ppl on board and making twister a collective momentum, not only matter of few teams per server as it is today. This year twister was somehow a huge fail in terms of participation vs last year (I remember ascent tournaments being full with 126 teams and they were forced to extend to 256!) were as this year we struggled to have 50 teams...

fringe galleon
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I think for example recent 90d tier X winrate would be better seeding system. But rerolls are very profitable for wg so i think system will stay like this

forest matrix
#

Absolutely agree (and quite desperate about that)

pallid raven
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I wonder what random seeding would be like, ik it's been done before

gentle sierra
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It would be bad

median mantle
#

Imo the current system is fine (maybe we could adapt the length of the qualifiers tho) but each of the teams making it to top 8 was CLEARLY above the 8 teams coming second which were CLEARLY above the rest. So now we can do some communism and make the best teams fight each other in early stage so below average teams can go to finals with a bit of luck. Bit if we just want the best to emerge and enjoy high level battles, like we have just seen, letโ€™s keep the system as it is

pallid raven
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It's fine for teams in the top 8 but teams for 9-64 it's not soo good.

median mantle
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Do u have in mind a single team from outside of top 16 who deserved to make it top 8-16? @pallid raven

pallid raven
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L1T, Souls, Teshr, krks

forest matrix
#

Are u capable of anything but trolling ? Thatโ€™s just pathetic

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Not u ofc

median mantle
#

Are u capable of some objectivity @forest matrix ? U are the guy who publicly and repeatedly called my team a third zone clan, right? While doing some excel sheets showing that u would have been top 16 if u had fought 40%er teams?

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If u think that u are the one who should determine top 8-16-32 etc just apply to WG please

forest matrix
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This comment is just showing how pathetic. Let ppl interested in tournaments have adult discussions and go trolling elsewhere

elder sinew
#

๐Ÿ‘€

thorn shale
#

Calm yourselves please.

median mantle
#

Calling me pathetic wonโ€™t change reality unfortunately. Once again ask wg to determine brackets and MM next time. Because reasons. Or git gut and win your spot fair and square in whatever top u want @forest matrix

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Take W1n as an example. Wr seeding was against them. But they played amazingly and made it top 3.

thorn shale
obsidian vine
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Lol

subtle ridge
#

What just happened lol i see a lot of salt

obsidian vine
#

Itโ€™s normal donโ€™t worry about it

median mantle
#

Reality is hitting hard sometimes ๐Ÿ˜น @subtle ridge

subtle ridge
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Yep no questions here

obsidian vine
#

Salt in the tournament channel is not something unfamiliar

subtle ridge
#

Yea seems legit

thorn shale
blissful cobalt
#

Tournaments are there to cater to the better players in blitz. This is why it always goes by strongest vs weakest principle. If a team wants to make it further they need to work for it. Itโ€™s that simple.

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Tbh, the best solution would to do something similar to ratings but with tournaments. Have your qualifiers then people get sorted based on placement into leagues

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โ€ข Pro tournament
โ€ข Challengers
โ€ข Bronze
โ€ขSilver

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Then scale back the prizes as you drop tiers

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Sure silver would probably end up being 58%ers vs 48%ers but it would allow them to play for a goal with a small reward

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And still keep the top teams at the top fighting for the grand prize of the offline

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4 leagues your talking 32 teams making it into a big tournament style bracket.

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Itโ€™s something for the lower teams to strive for and improve from

obsidian vine
#

Hmm

thorn shale
#

I just had a great sit down with a concerned EU citizen and we've finally come to an understanding:

America bad
EU gud
cave man smash

subtle ridge
#

Lol

thorn shale
#

11/10 would definitely visit Europe again, thanks for having me

pallid raven
#

@thorn shale we would love to have you back

raven pendant
#

I need people to join my tournament

fluid swallow
#

I'll join

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What tier?

green plover
raven pendant
#

Ohhh ight and tier 5-6

thorn shale
#

fishy donโ€™t be toxic

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@flat goblet not cool

flat goblet
#

I know concep, he's a friend, it was a joke

thorn shale
#

That's fair. But on a server with 40K members how are others to know it's a joke?

flat goblet
#

shouldn't matter to them. It's explained now.

thorn shale
#

touche

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get moderated, nerd

austere forge
#

My point being if they changed the seeding a bit youโ€™re still eventually going to end up facing the high tier teams in that tournaments final. How many groups would a tournament of 132 teams field. Top of each group is the professional team.

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The cream is still going to rise to the top but putting out a a tourney that is full makes more sense from a Wargaming perspective simply for advertisement player base being excited to compete and spending money of camo premium ammo and tanks

faint scaffoldBOT
#

dynoSuccess PAPYRUS#9832 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess AdMiRaLl#3223 has been warned.

south oyster
#

i am very curious what was happening to the team ICT

vital obsidian
#

I think this season qualifiers were fine, would change only one thing and that is the ticket system, because few teams playing in ascent it was unneccessary though to get ticket and without ticket it was almost impossible to proceed

jade spoke
#

@south oyster they got dq

versed field
#

this was best system overall, you can see that when you look clans in top 8

vital obsidian
#

Gg W1N

gleaming pollen
#

Imo Twister season is about finding the best of the best. And If you are complaing about who you are facing in The qualifiers your goal was never to win Twister season.

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For example we fought vs eg three Times in ascent tourneys

vital obsidian
#

Op ๐Ÿ‘

leaden belfry
#

I feel the ticket system wasn't good, it would have worked better to let people earn proper amounts of cups every night and go from there. The ticket system allowed for a lot of trolling and for clans to not take it very seriously at all, mainly due to people ending low in the ticketed tournaments would still get plenty of cups and enough to push through, and those that did well one ticketed tournament could basically lean back and relax a bit. FBI a prime example here - they even missed a ticket, but because they won the first ticketed one, they still made top 8.

#

but my main issue with this tournament is still the time frame. Qualifiers took longer than the Professionals, for one, but where Qualifiers were spread out over 2 weeks, with 8 days of battle (meaning 6 days off), it was followed by 5 days of nothing, and then 9 days where people had to play 7 days.

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I also feel that the 2 round robins we had before are a more fair way to judge who's top 4, rather than the one Bo7, though I'd prefer 2 of Bo5 rather than Bo3

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The final stage spread out over 3 days I liked - meant only one double stream for the first stage. Also massively liked the map pool of the grand finals and the maps there not being used earlier in the final stage.

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But - everything together, I think this was too crowded a schedule for players, especially since trainings and whatnot are not included. And as streamer, I can say I'm quite broken after all of this. I had 16 streams in 9 days - Brian even a few more. We want to cover as much as we can, but with most game days being during the week, NA and Asia lacked a lot of coverage that they would have been able to get had the old schedule of Thursday-Saturday-Sunday been followed.

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Or, if more streamers would be available for the other servers, at that.

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PK and Fugit stepping up has been a massive help, and meant that every server had at least one stream per day for the Professionals, but it's far from the perfect and full coverage EU had

fringe galleon
#

We need streamers especially from NA to stream their games. The timezone difference is just too much. Massive respect for Amaunet and Rolling for doing it ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

leaden belfry
#

Also, though I can respect WG wanting the Wild Card Tournament in one day, going from Bo7 Challengers to a Bo3 for the Finals, with the exception of the Grand Finals, seems a bit odd, to me

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Thank you, Olli =) NA especially is a little impossible, yeah ๐Ÿ˜…

gentle sierra
#

๐Ÿ˜“

winter swallow
#

The sorting of best teams into top 8 was the best this year that it has ever been. BUT. There were some issues.

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  1. Pro tournament was insanely busy for 1 week. I preferred double RR over single RR. Bo7 was great though. I'd go with a Bo5 double RR followed by the top 4 as we had this year with Bo7 and Bo9 matches.
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But the top 8 should run over longer time period

turbid sinew
#

Double elimination in top 4 was meh

winter swallow
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  1. the tickets in ascents were not so great. I'd go for a shorter ascent series - 4 open tournaments to earn cups. Top 32 go into an elite ascent format for 2 more rounds to determine top 8
thorn shale
#

My only issue with the format this year was that the group stage of professionals was single RR. It was harsh to a lot of teams.

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Ascent format didnโ€™t bother me

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Although I can see how some teams felt hard done by

winter swallow
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  1. MM has to be strongest vs weakest. That sucksfor weakest. But. Get good?

But seriously- I think wg does need to develop better prizes for lower bracket tournaments to encourage participation.

How about cash prizes for online phases of lower brackets?

thorn shale
#

I dislike that

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No offense

winter swallow
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I.e. if challenger had a cash prize?

And if there were 3rd bracket 16-32 with cash prizes?

thorn shale
#

It could just incentivize teams on the EU or RU server to sandbag

winter swallow
#

Challenger tournament DOUBLED pro tournament time player engagement

thorn shale
#

Why have to go through a grueling professional tournament when you can sandbag, win Challengers, get money, and still have a chance at going to Minsk

winter swallow
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Sandbag?

thorn shale
#

Throw intentionally

winter swallow
#

Ah

Wild card ain't fun route though lol.

Must win challenger. Must beat 2nd place eu and ru

thorn shale
#

I disagree.

winter swallow
#

You still face top level opponents...

thorn shale
#

If a team like Carna or FBI were to go into Challengers, theyโ€™d be pretty guaranteed to win

#

The quality gap between Challengers and Professional tournament is very noticeable

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And then if a team were to win Challengers theyโ€™d have more time to prepare for their opponents and see how the #2 teams played

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Not saying itโ€™s necessarily easier

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But if WG added a $$$ incentive for Challengers, I think there would definitely be some top 8 level teams who would consider taking that route

manic pewter
#

Last year we was in wild card tournament ascents because we lost to LGN in prof qualifiers. We lost only one match in there. Skill cap is noticeable for sure

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And that loss was versus L1VE in finals upper bracket

thorn shale
#

@manic pewter โ˜๏ธ

fringe galleon
#

Not apa, it was L1VE. And they had good team

manic pewter
#

Oh yeah my bad (fixed)

pallid raven
#

Imagine if ST1NG was still around. Rip, would have been top 8 if they stayed together

manic pewter
#

Sorry, st1ng? I mean i remember that clan but no idea who was in thee

pallid raven
#

Was the best of several clans in one (ESA, lxn, R-2-K)

gentle sierra
#

Press X to doubt

pallid raven
#

I do recall beating LOCA quite comfortably

gentle sierra
#

Jes not this team though

pallid raven
#

But times change and loca has improved

gentle sierra
#

Wasnt touch only also if im not mistaken

turbid sinew
#

X

pallid raven
#

ST1NG was a touch only team with the exception of me

vital obsidian
#

Ting op

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Will u continue play during winter?

pallid raven
#

Nah, just trying and failing to annoy people in LOCA

winter swallow
#

SW4RM outlasted ST1NG.

vital obsidian
#

IMM0R take over Ting next Summer ๐Ÿ˜˜

south oyster
#

@jade spoke read this, I am so shocked! The Team -ICT- on the Asia server was trying to manipulate the tournaments. ๐Ÿ˜ก

winter swallow
#

I read it but have no idea what it says...

pallid raven
#

SW4RM will out last us all

atomic bane
#

...

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GG ICT

silver vapor
#

I'm not sure whether that's the actual story. @atomic bane do you?

atomic bane
#

I am Wombat leader(just this year,because my leader die in Account Verification program)

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not all actual but right

south oyster
#

so the given story was basically right? seriously? what was the real story @atomic bane could you tell us?

daring dune
#

bing du gu gu

atomic bane
#

so shocking right?
We beated them in HMA at June(China Offline tour).
They died in Twist Account Verification program.
They dont want us to join into the final game.
So use a stupid way to stop us win.
We are not full power in this twist(3 main players still do not pass verification).

pallid raven
#

What is this verification

atomic bane
#

to verification the account is yours

daring dune
#

๐Ÿ‘€

pallid raven
#

As in linking to a phone?

atomic bane
#

by check personal ID

daring dune
#

fine. totally a scandal. sigh

atomic bane
#

I have handed over all the evidence to Netease.

median mantle
#

We experienced that in EU

south oyster
#

@atomic bane I heard from a Chinese friend of mine said NetEase (WG cooperative partner on Chinese server) was collecting players' information for verifications and testing whether the player has a valid status to participate the tournament. it sounds like urban legend.

silver vapor
#

@atomic bane is it possible for Hong Kong players to verify their account?

atomic bane
#

@south oysteryep it's TRUE

brittle bloom
#

Chinese server not only need to verify E-mail account but also phone number.

atomic bane
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@silver vapor no problem. including HK TW

south oyster
#

@atomic bane so that for some "technical" reasons, Wombat leader won't have opportunity to participate the qualify tournaments with his team. Shall I understand like that?

atomic bane
#

yep Raniance died

atomic tartan
#

Hello again

south oyster
#

Wow, this is insane.

brittle bloom
#

Raniance canโ€™t even go to Minsk lol

atomic bane
#

@atomic tartan haha,Jason quit game...sry

atomic tartan
#

Rip

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Yea NetEase and the Chinese do things pretty differently

south oyster
#

@atomic bane why would you not try to argue with NetEase , if they realized that they just banned an awesome player on both Chinese and Asia servers.

atomic tartan
#

Their team last year all got flights from wherever to Beijing. Then Beijing to Minsk.

Which meant someone got dragged from Los Angeles to Beijing and then Minsk

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Thats the long way lol Fatness is from California and he flew to Europe

atomic bane
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@south oysterrule just rule,Netease do not want to change it.

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@atomic tartanyep.just Jason

latent olive
#

Ting n touch lol

south oyster
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@atomic bane You cannot just say rule is the rule, everything need to be reasonable, if there is not a way to solve the essential problem, just go trying another alternative way to compromise it.

atomic tartan
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@south oyster the bottom line is....they do things differently over there

atomic bane
#

dont want twist so bad,right?

atomic tartan
#

@atomic bane what exactly does NetEase want for verification?

atomic bane
#

account is made by yourself and use by yourself

atomic tartan
#

How did people fail that?

atomic bane
#

cannot pass personal ID who made account

south oyster
#

he meant "created" the account

atomic tartan
#

Player ID?

south oyster
#

Player's citizenship ID?

atomic tartan
#

๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

atomic bane
#

ID card Number

atomic tartan
#

Government ID card? They want to link that with their Tanks account?

atomic bane
#

yep

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that's China Real-name system

atomic tartan
#

Alright....why cant Raniance just send a picture of his ID? Whats stopping him from just doing it?

atomic bane
#

no his account is his friend's

thorn shale
#

oof

south oyster
#

initially I did remember wotb can be registered by facebook, so I guess some fellows would not have proper status or IDs for this insane versification

atomic tartan
#

Just be like his friend quit

atomic bane
#

he do not transfer account into China

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u just know that China Server is so much different.

atomic tartan
#

Is it like this in other games?

atomic bane
#

all network game must have your ID to create account

south oyster
#

I just wondering NetEase is awesome, treating player differently? or treating this game indifferently?

atomic bane
#

no it is law

atomic tartan
#

So theoretically if you rage too hard at the wrong someone the government can track you down

south oyster
#

BUT I still do not understand how this "technical incident" for Jason could matter or even related to the scandal of ICT's cheating on both Chinese and Asia server.

atomic bane
#

Jason is by himself.He do not want to play this game.Quit after last year's twist.Not about this.

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ICT event is contradiction between the two legions.It allways wants tour to against our '1st place'(by its said).

atomic tartan
#

Weโ€™re talking about Raniance @south oyster

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Jason is their guy that spoke English and thats how i set up scrims last year

south oyster
#

@atomic bane So it could be understood that you were saying a few troublemakers (-ICT- youngsters) would hinder wombat team from carrying out a conspiracy by manipulating accounts and players from the beginning.

atomic bane
#

yes

austere forge
#

@vital obsidian @leaden belfry from my perspective this Twister was different than past twisters. Personally preferred the round robin format. Especially since the Preseason tournament was set up that way. If they want to limit the field to only the top teams why would any other clan even bother and why in the hell would they open it up to 132 teams. So that Pramo/reign/etc have 6 teams each?

green plover
#

Why bring up reign? We donโ€™t even have enough man power for that. ๐Ÿ˜‚

south oyster
#

you need more hackers just Watea_23

green plover
#

๐Ÿค”

south oyster
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

atomic tartan
#

๐Ÿค” i have that on a keyboard shortcut as :th

austere forge
#

@green plover had at least 2 ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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And I just thru names out there

rain hornet
#

Ok

gentle sierra
#

Why does it matter if 1 clans has multiple teams ?

silver vapor
#

^^^

gentle sierra
#

And its not that they want to limit the field to only the top teams , everyone can participate , the top teams advance further than the rest for a reason

leaden belfry
#

All those teams would still have to prove themselves

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@austere forge I'm kind of surprised at the comment about limiting the field to only top teams. Isn't that the whole goal of trying to get a top 8? To get that top 8 made out of the best teams of the server? Do you want teams that don't have a chance to go through and teams that have a shot getting kicked out early because they meet the strongest opposition straight away? Where's the logic jn that?

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As for why they'd try - they'd try for the fun of it, for the prizes, because they believe they have what it takes, if can be any number of reasons

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You want easy tournaments, go for the quick tournaments.

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The Professionals Tournament is called that for a reason - and it isn't because every team can make it

austere forge
#

@leaden belfry Iโ€™m talking about early week ascents. I understand the point of the tournament and enjoyed watching the stream. Iโ€™m very sure that people donโ€™t want to watch reign vs maxx (although the result wouldโ€™ve been the same o7). If wargaming wants to have a ascent type tournament open to 132 teams then form a different seeding pattern. The professionals are always going to rise to the top as they should. Iโ€™ve played against some pretty decent clans that basically just said F-it we arenโ€™t even going to try to play twister....is that wargaming wants? At the height of rollingstorms stream for the NA finals 500 people were watching...

leaden belfry
#

There's no avoiding that, and the ascent tournaments are used to weed out that top 8. So of course it has to include a harsh form of mm for the less strong teams

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What you said about the Professionals always rising to the top - that isn't true

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Two twister cups ago, this mm wasn't in place. And one pool was incredibly difficult in the EU

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Three clans that should have made top 8 didn't, because of that.

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Whereas several teams that would have stood little chance did

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It also effected the level of gameplay of the top 8, because there was a set set of them that was much stronger

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No mm is ideal, but asking for wg to go easier on the less strong teams while they're trying to find the best of the best, is not something that'd work, I think ๐Ÿค”

marble kelp
#

Hello guys. Where can i find team for scrim?

leaden belfry
marble kelp
#

@leaden belfry ty Man c ya

green plover
#

These ascent tournaments gave a chance for any decent team to make top 8. All you had to do was play every ascent and get 1-4 and then play the ticket ascent on Thursday Saturday repeat. On NA I believe 3 teams that were actually good were eliminated because they missed one or two tournaments. This argument with the MM should be weakest v weakest and strongest v strongest is a very bad idea compared to the current setup. Once again these tournaments led to the professionals, meaning best of the best. Not for any 40% team to surpass a 50%+ team because of this bad format style.

leaden belfry
#

^ that

opaque kite
#

If it is best of the best, shouldn't it includes touch and keyboard?

pallid raven
#

BuT iTs A mObIlE GaMe

gentle sierra
#

Git gud on touch if u wanna play in the big tourneys , simple

spice briar
#

yes yes bring your pc to twister

opaque kite
#

Just bring a surface book

gentle sierra
#

No no , u have to pack the tower , screen and everything , and fly it to minsk and play

thorn shale
#

My laptop is mobile...

median mantle
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How come I canโ€™t support @viscid python โ€˜s message with a nice emoji?

jade spoke
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๐Ÿ˜‚

green plover
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Keyboard to a mobile game very nice

opaque kite
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"best of the best"

pale finch
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Let me bring my pc setup to twister

gentle sierra
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Why put pc players against touch players ?๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ @opaque kite

pallid raven
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@opaque kite stop trolling

opaque kite
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Because you want the "best of the best"

gentle sierra
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Pc player vs someone with a touch device , makes sense

pallid raven
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@opaque kite go back to playing LOL

spice briar
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go play pc version

gentle sierra
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Ew , crew training

thorn shale
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One could argue that it does make sense seeing that is how the game is currently set up.

gentle sierra
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Nope

thorn shale
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Like it or not Blitz is now a PC game in addition to being a mobile game.

pallid raven
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tbh the best touch player would beat the best pc player

gentle sierra
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Can you back that up ? Somehow

thorn shale
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The best players I know play on touch.

pale finch
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Who even is the best pc contra to touch player xd

pallid raven
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In 1vs1 tournament I have seen, the finalists are normally touch players

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I won't be surprised if in a few years, wargaming allow pc players, into these tournaments to draw in more players

gentle sierra
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I wont be surprised either if they do it cause game is loosing players

spice briar
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it would not get counted as a mobile game if they do so

floral python
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If that happens the game becomes a cross platform

thorn shale
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It already is.

pallid raven
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Are there many cross platform games (mobile to touch) which have a tournament scene

thorn shale
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Tournaments are just slow to catch up

floral python
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@thorn shale it is cross platform for pubs, in the core its mobile

thorn shale
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For now. We'll see how much longer that lasts

floral python
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Yeah and thats when ill loose full hope in comp scene

gentle sierra
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And dont tell me you really think , someone who plays from a pc , has a screen thats double the size of an ipad , can switch ammo types without having to move his finger away from the fire button and can look around while having his gun locked in the target doesnt have an advantage over someone playing from a touch device

thorn shale
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I've got no skin in the game. I don't have the time or interest to play comp. I'm fine with it being mobile only. That being said I can see the writing on the wall.

spice briar
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it wont happen that touch and pc will combine in competetive scene XD

fringe galleon
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Mobile esports is fast growing market. If they allow pc in big tournaments its not mobile esports anymore

floral python
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^

gentle sierra
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And i've played pc for 2 years , touch only 1

spice briar
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also blitz has a good name in mobile esports

floral python
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I was pc only until i wanted to do tourneys, and its clear how much easier it is from pc, they shouldn't be allowed

gentle sierra
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^^

pallid raven
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@gentle sierra if u get really good with a claw grip u can do those things

fringe galleon
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Still you cant zoom manually

pallid raven
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some people prefer auto zoom, eg rolling

gentle sierra
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Man come on ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ , dont tell me pc isnt easier , claw grip or not , how can u equalize the massive screen difference , or the easier snapshots u can do on pc

floral python
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Manual zoom and target lock alone are already huge

pallid raven
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u can say its unfair that people have bigger touch screen than each other

gentle sierra
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๐Ÿคฆ

spice briar
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you dont have any advantages with claw grip on blitz

floral python
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Control type is the same that way, u don't get pc control perks

pallid raven
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has anyone actually tried it? Ik bushka did

floral python
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It isnt for everyone

spice briar
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also the size of the screen has nothing to do with fair or not since its different from player to player, i play on a normal mobile phone

fringe galleon
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@pallid raven I think 3lmeri plays with claw grip on ipad

pallid raven
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baron said screen size affects it @spice briar