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#tourneys-discussion
ebon cairn
Hjj
winter swallow
Still struggling to contain excitement for Twister 2019
vital obsidian
@winter swallow why not that over the moon?
winter swallow
I know the format has its issues @vital obsidian - however, in terms of the strongest teams qualifying, this format is the best I've seen to date.
Also I get to stream more high-level official WG tournaments - and that always makes me happy 😄
azure void
#rollingisgoingtominsk100%
winter swallow
👁 👅 👁
winter swallow
oh god. what have you done.
azure void
Lol
faint scaffoldBOT
alor0807#1437 has been warned.
faint scaffoldBOT
Sparatus#6178 has been warned.
thorn shale
@toxic mango #off-topic-discussion
faint scaffoldBOT
_Specy#0552 has been warned.
pallid raven
I think the centurion would be a good tournament tank
flat goblet
WZ tds
graceful herald
Any one going to play tournament in world of tank with tier v_vi
fathom tiger
Just spam the new op prems
winter swallow
Getting closer to the end of August 🙈
strong marsh
😁
viscid python
I guess we'll know tomorrow!😄
leaden belfry
Tomorrow isn't the end of August
That being said, I would very much like timely information. Even if WG is reluctant to share things on the same day that they announce it, I don't understand why there has to be half a week or more between the posting of some dates and the actual rules
considering it all starts Monday, I feel posting it Friday is actually too late.
We've been hearing that they will be announced "soon" since last Friday
winter swallow
Unfortunately, I feel the same way. I think players/ clans/ teams need all the info on Twister ideally a week before qualifer games begin.
fathom tiger
Atleast
leaden belfry
Preferably longer before then, tbh.
gentle sierra
^^
leaden belfry
And it'd be grand if we could get information for the whole tournament, rather than in bits and pieces for different stages
it's confusing, and it makes it impossible to determine who people can put in a team, as you don't know the actual dates and times yet for the whole Twister Cup
and regardless of that you can get more 'reserves' for this, that's not what people want. Tournaments are the best training you can get, so people will still want to use a set team, that's used to each other on the battlefield and on voice
winter swallow
Qualifier*
leaden belfry
?
winter swallow
Typo from before. Messge just sent. drowns phone and keyboard and shoddy 3g
leaden belfry
😂
winter swallow
I think it makes sense to release information in parts to avoid overwhelming less experienced CW players- but still - experienced cw players are having to make tough changes in the dark atm.
winter swallow
It might be helpful to hear (constructive) comments from clan/team leads about how limited details on Pro and challenger tournaments are effecting them.
frosty nexus
The details about Pro and Challenger tournaments will be announced on September 9th, two weeks before the tournaments start
thorn shale
bruh two weeks
azure pecan
Jeez
It that so expansive to release informations 1month before the beginning of the most knew and waited event of wotb
silver vapor
@winter swallow got nothing constructive other than "I'd like to hear all of this on Early August, not early September".
graceful jetty
So we just have to do well in the ascent tournaments and get as many points as possible to get placed in pro tournament right?
What days of the week will ascent tournaments be? I cant find them in the tournaments tab and im confused by the qts which have (Clan) and (Non-Clan) but in the description state "for members of the sane clan". Why are the clan/non clan things in brackets for them?
Sorry im still very confused about this and the discussion earlier about these details was too long to read
half urchin
click the link of knopka in the pinned messages
graceful jetty
Cool as ty
thorn shale
september 9th? Why its so difficult to tell all the info 1 month before starting?
chilly terrace
@graceful jetty because cups (points for leaderboard) will be giving out in the Ascent Tournaments only, which will have clan registration. Quick tournaments won't be counted for leaderboard.
@thorn shale How the amount of rounds or rewards will help you one month before the tournament? Than earlier news is posted than less people can find it when it really will be necessary.
vital obsidian
@chilly terrace if a clan get enough cups to get into pro tour, does the clan need to use a player who has played for the clan in ascent?
thorn shale
U changed the whole system. I just want more details cos some of us are confused about all this. U want us playing 8 days or more to get to top 8? Most of ppl have work or studies and this system makes everything worse think more or ask to the players before changing everything pls
chilly terrace
@vital obsidian It's up to clan who will represent them in Professional or Challenger tournaments. Participation in Ascent tournament doesn't matter.
gentle sierra
Rewards from pro tournament can motivate people 👀
chilly terrace
@thorn shale We didn't change whole system. We changed some aspects which are related to qualifiers.
vital obsidian
When is registration open for ascents
thorn shale
U did change a lot of stuff lol. And as Baron said rewards motivate ppl, why u should say rewards one week before?
green plover
It starts this coming Monday so expect it to be up either Tomorrow or Saturday probably.
chilly terrace
@vital obsidian tomorrow the first Ascent Tournament will be published in the game client. Registration will be opened on Saturday.
chilly terrace
@thorn shale If we announced them one month before, none would remember them now.
thorn shale
Could be 2 weeks before?
wicked snow
@chilly terrace Hello , if a clan is top8 by points on leaderboard , It can send a team to Professionnal tournament and a team to the challengers tournament ( top16) ?
winter swallow
@wicked snow yes
wicked snow
Interesting 🤔
winter swallow
Each player can only register to 1 though
wicked snow
But like if there is a clan in top16 , and a clan in top8 , the clan in top8 decides to send two teams , one to prof tourney and one to challengers tournament , And there is only one spot left in challengers tournament , to which clan will the spot on the challengers tournament be atributed ? The top8 clan?
violet hemlock
Top 9-16 teams have a slot regardless, if teams from top 8 decide to send one to challengers then it becomes 9/10/11... etc teams
wicked snow
Ah i see , so its not limited to 8 teams ? @violet hemlock
violet hemlock
Limited to 16
wicked snow
I see , thanks 🙏
winter swallow
To my understanding, if a top 8 team does not send a team to the challenger tournament, that slot is forfeited, not awarded to teams below 16. - SO yes, Teams 9-16 have a slot locked in. However, top 8 can send a team or not. At least, that's what I imagine the scenario is...
Basically @violet hemlock is right and said it better, first...
vital obsidian
Top 8 can quick recruit a friend team and send it to challenger 👀
green plover
Immor has 2 teams? 🤔
vital obsidian
”Last chance” - and those players dont need play before in ascent
@green plover mby, we work on it
green plover
@wicked snow you don’t even got 2 teams
winter swallow
@vital obsidian - I think if you are in a clan that looks like it is going to secure a top 8 slot, you could consider making a 2nd team to sent to challengers yes
@wicked snow - everyone will spam EG- to join your clan's second team now 😉
vital obsidian
Muuuhaaa
I am not sure I like this part of the system 🤔
At least there should be a quaranteen or something
green plover
A quarantine?
vital obsidian
In clan a few weeks
We know number of groups only thing we dont know how many teams play
winter swallow
@glass thunder number of what groups?
green plover
The number of groups depends on how many teams register
wicked snow
@winter swallow xd
vital obsidian
There will for sure not be many groups in thursday-Saturday tours
Can you donate a ticket to thu/sat ascent @chilly terrace
chilly terrace
@vital obsidian Yes, 2 tickets maximum from one player.
vital obsidian
Ok thanks
winter swallow
@glass thunder unknown - imagine there will be plenty though. Well we know ticketed are group 32. And we know top 4 from non ticketed get ticket. So there's at least 8 groups Monday tuesday
8x16 teams is low for past twisters though- so let's guess its 16 groups monday tuesday bare minimum for 2 groups thursday saturday
16x16 teams = 256 = on par with previous tounmenaments
So 16 groups and then 2
winter swallow
Remember both are Bo3 SE. So Monday as group 16 - 8 - 4 - 2 - 1 is 4 fixtures max total in one evening is logical
Hmmm
vital obsidian
Thu/sat will not be ezz to anyone
winter swallow
But actually a 32 Bo3 SE would Play over more than one evening maybe - ... i mean i have no idea so i cant prepare my streams properly. Im the real victim here lol
vital obsidian
Will be interesting to see how big differences there is in cups after first week
winter swallow
^ absolutely mate @glass thunder - it's brilliant for qualification. Schedule is a pain and I'm sad to see clans torn apart, but the pros will be better for it.
vital obsidian
Idk are clans divided in eu
winter swallow
Well I get the feeling some clans are splitting as a result of the 1 team per clan policy (1TPC)
winter swallow
Anyways, tomorrow is the end of August 😂
gentle sierra
😬
chilly terrace
@winter swallow Each ascent tournament will be held not more than one evening.
silver vapor
@winter swallow we already did split lol
winter swallow
Thanks @chilly terrace 🤗
pallid raven
uhm
wicked snow
#tourneys-team-search @oblique minnow
thorn shale
@thorn shale English please
dreamy adder
groups of 16 @glass thunder
graceful jetty
I found them in blitz assistant
feral torrent
toxic mango
Mmmmm
winter swallow
How do people feel about the new aspect of random map selection?
@chilly terrace by each round does it mean one game? Does that mean teams won’t get to play the other spawn on the first map selected in the Bo3?
vital obsidian
Round is bo3 vs one enemy I guess?
green plover
@winter swallow I’m pretty sure it’s one map you play both sides and then a random tie breaker
leaden solar
Hi
thorn shale
I don't like the aspect of the new map selection because now instead of practicing the maps u have each day u have to practice every map in the listing so instead of a team getting on an hour before to go over 4 maps the team has to go over every map on that list and get on much earlier and not everyone from each team has time for that
Unless they still show u which maps you will play in what order before u play them then it's fine
Like a bronze series as long as u find out an hour before, people should have enough time to prepare
viscid python
The last day of august ! 👀👀
median mason
It's Saturday. Don't expect any news
wicked snow
which news 👀
chilly terrace
@winter swallow One map is played twice, with switching respawns.
median mason
@chilly terrace you work on Saturdays? Or WFH?
chilly terrace
@median mason I'm not working at all today. I just entered to check how it's going.
median mason
Interesting
@chilly terrace wow, u've edited the message. But it's not the account u use for private stuff?
pallid raven
well deserved rest
velvet dome
I'm a veteran bois, where them secret chats at @azure void ??
chilly terrace
@median mason It is. I don't have any other account.
median mason
@chilly terrace good to know! pog
graceful jetty
@thorn shale u will find out which maps ur playing on after the registration ends tho
thorn shale
oic then it's fine as is
green plover
@buoyant saddle most likely
buoyant saddle
😱 hi Moe from Pramoe @green plover
green plover
🤔 wrong 1 @buoyant saddle but hello specy from r2k- good luck in ascent
buoyant saddle
Ty, it should be hi Moe from RGN @green plover
green plover
@buoyant saddle wrong again and hopefully you make it into top 8 🙂
buoyant saddle
What is the correct one then @green plover
vital obsidian
First eu ascent team will be registrated in a few minutes. Amd the winner is...
winter swallow
@chilly terrace thanks mate. You’re awesome 👏
vital obsidian
Does the amount of battles count for wr based seeding?
azure pecan
until now it never did count
they just took 7 best wr and without number of battles
So basically u go register with an account that has 1 battle and 100% wr and a t10 from shop and u get ez opponents
vital obsidian
can we get that confirmed from @chilly terrace
Team level ? What is that?
Now i lost it totally 😳
ah okay then all good, i thought they do something like the gold tour seeding
Where will they face them i dont understand?
I am lost again
second ascent?
you mean thursday-saturday tkt ?
vital obsidian
okay thats tursday-saturday
runic forge
why is Dynasty's Pearl One of the maps in tournies 😂 doesn't that map get a bad rap
leaden belfry
Only if you forget to bring your Mice... Though with a random map selection, teams are even more likely to exist of Foch, FV215B's and T22's 🙃
gentle sierra
T22s 😡
thick crystal
Has wg considered tournaments for tier 9? Why does a tier so good not have tournaments on their own
atomic tartan
Cuz they just play t10 lol
viscid python
T9 most balanced tier now, so it would make sense to play it.
Ofc they could also balance T10, but I guess unbalnced is more profitable
gentle sierra
Aka t22
flat goblet
AMX 30 exists at tier 9
atomic tartan
SU-122-54
forest matrix
@winter swallow my main fear with the tournament format is the lack of team during monday / tuesday tournamernts.
for the time being only 40 teams in registration process. The twister tournament is touch only t10 only and the same monday there are 3 other tournaments. I m quite sure we will end up with 80 to 100 team only, with groups of 16... lets see how it goes but I would bet only one group during ticketed tournament is quite likely.
@chilly terrace what is the priority if we dont reach the expected team number? priority to filling groups or maximising the number of groups (and number of distributed tickets)?
vital obsidian
@forest matrix I fear the same, we have only few teams in pipeline atm and the ticket system will further limit interest and availability.
Ru server 282, eu 44, na 28, asia 28
It is really important not to limit mon/tue group numbers and therefore tickets or we end up with only a few teams in thur/sat tours - that cannot be purpose of the system?
winter swallow
I hope that it goes for making maximum number of groups, or, maybe more ideally for me as a streamer, making full groups but then allocating tickets to fill the Thursday / Saturday tournaments.
So, rather than the top 4 only getting tickets - maybe the top 4 plus X to fill 2x groups of 32 for ticketed tourneys
vital obsidian
Mby worth to consider skip tickets for all other servers than ru
flat goblet
It will probably end up like gold tourneys and whatnot. Tiny tournaments.
winter swallow
256 / 16 = 16 groups. x 4 = 64 teams in ticketed tournaments
My guess though is WG will aim to maximise number of groups as the ticketed tournaments are more important than the Monday Tuesday ones
vital obsidian
But that makes only 2 games per evening mon/tue which seem pretty useless
winter swallow
Agreed. It isn’t ideal. Not sure how WG can boost new tournament participants though, aside from making them more attractive in terms of prizes for lower positions.
vital obsidian
I guess most clans consider the ascent not worth the effort at all, they have low or no chances to win even one battle cause they will face a pro team based on wr
winter swallow
Yes. Strongest versus weakest (SW) MM is the best for sorting but really discourages the weaker/weakest teams from showing up.
vital obsidian
But even tho surprised how few in pipeline, hope this day will boost entry
winter swallow
I think that having more games for placing would encourage players to register. Keep it SW MM SE Bo3, but loser go on to face losers etc. - so everyone plays 4 matches but against progressively stronger or weaker opponents.
vital obsidian
I think we in end will see huge differences in cups
winter swallow
Yeah for sure. At least this format is fairest for higher level teams in terms of qualifying for pros
At least, that’s how I feel.
forest matrix
I dont know why WG made other tournaments lower tiers the same evening (monday at least). That prevent the weaker teams to show up. Thus increasing the risk of having tough groups even on Mon / Tue with bloody output.
I understand the intent was the ticket tournaments as top 8 tiebreaker and could be that we move to having a ticket or not becoming the biggest tiebreaker even for top teams.
Making 2 teams or more per clan during Mon / Tue tourney then become key to mitigate the risk (good for big / structured clans like yours @vital obsidian and hopefully KRK-S or TESRH for instance)
forest matrix
we will see... and btw it's making another source of rage for clans that split up specifically cause of the format.
Double punition : they split up cause they cant have 2 teams at pro tournament .... while increasing the risk to have 0 teams at pro tournament!
vital obsidian
I think there is too much to consider to make good tour it should not be so complex 🤔
gleaming terrace
Me too I don't know what to do
silver vapor
@vital obsidian but at the same time it begs the question whether they've actually thought this through when they just basically go like "screw big clans, you now split or no top 8 because y'all are confusing for our viewers"
whole forum
Hello
forest matrix
I've read the week comment on this matter (could unfortunately not contribute).
I think we all agree that it's good and fair to have the twister pro qualification not dealt on a single tournament but during multiple events.
Then if qualification is ran over multiple tournaments, the only way of computing scores as of today is having a clan-based system.
There are currently no team based system developed and I guess that it was too late to be developed once the TC layout was discussed. End of story.
Now WG has one year to develop some kind of team system like faction in PUBG.
That's too bad but still I prefer having this tournament system than previous one.
The only inconvenience is that team will compete under new or likish clan tag with low provisions level during a few weeks. I guess its something everyone can deal with. Even if not cool that players have to adapt and not the game to adapt.
silver vapor
shows how little you understand why people join clans for in the first place - to share the pride of holding that clan tag they choose to hold.
it's not a mere inconvenience. it's a forced clan rip aparts because your clan is competitive.
forest matrix
I just wrote that it was not cool mate.
Just tried to explain that if I had to choose between this year and last year I chose this year without an hesitation.
For info in Kraken clan we have two tags. At the end sharing same discord, clan structure and events. NA way of making clans is also specific actually
chilly hemlock
@chilly terrace are team crates and the community choice camo coming back for this year?
gentle sierra
👀
chilly hemlock
@forest matrix I actually don’t think anyone would choose this format over last year
winter swallow
Idk. I’d choose a league qualifier rather than one elimination series.
But I’d have team creation before Ascents, and lock players to that team - and just ignore clan tags.
chilly hemlock
Only think I like is that top 8 is supposed to be a bit more predictable
Everyone wants the top 8 in pro season to be the absolute best teams
winter swallow
If your panties get twisted at the thought of seeing Clan A vs. Clan A in the Pros... just use team names and hide clan tags. Apparently this is not technically possible but still.
chilly hemlock
The clan tags situation is a nice shot at mainly na from the way I understand it
winter swallow
Well RU and NA and EU all had multiples in Spring Season pros
chilly hemlock
And somehow it sounds like it’s our fault
winter swallow
I think? Or at least for sure they have done in the past. Wait EU didn’t but it might as well have had, same players new clans.
chilly hemlock
Eu had two Eros teams last year right?
winter swallow
In Twister yes,
chilly hemlock
It’s just dumb
winter swallow
C4 and AV from RU... sometimes MERCY x2.... idk. Make it possible to create 50 man clans but limit teams to 9. It’s almost like decent clans will get the crazy idea to field more than one team. 🤯
chilly hemlock
If you’re good enough to make top 8, nothing else should matter
winter swallow
^
chilly hemlock
If 1-6 are from one clan, then congrats to them
I would say 7 but that’s 7 teams of 7
An account sharing nightmare
forest matrix
@chilly hemlock lol sry not to fit (as many EU clan leaders)
chilly hemlock
And honestly, if someone has a problem with a clans dominance. Good. But instead of making them break up, why not try to beat them?
winter swallow
But it’s OK. The friends you made online aren’t that important, just make a new clan (without supplies) and fight for the glory of your new clan. Easy. Sorry, ez.
forest matrix
fact that EU CW scene is very competitive and having only one tournament deciding for the whole twister season was a huge drawback
chilly hemlock
Imagine if the new clan couldn’t get op consumables yet
gentle sierra
They could have done a bo5 or bo7 for the finals of the qualifiers and ez fix with the old system
winter swallow
Lol speaking of EZ- where are they now? Does that clan still exist?
chilly hemlock
Bo3 is crazy for this level of stuff
winter swallow
Bo3 over 8 tournaments sorted SE MM is fine.
gentle sierra
@forest matrix people cant be available 4 /7 days a week most of the time though
And if u miss 1 day you are out basically
winter swallow
The random map is slightly concerning. Here’s to hoping we can see the map in the room and teams aren’t going in 100% blind 🙈 🥂
gentle sierra
Overall the system is more fair only if all teams are able to show up all the time
forest matrix
that's another topic @gentle sierra I agree the planning is not convenient but the fact that qualification is made taking 8 tournaments output is rly good
winter swallow
At least it has been confirmed the first map will play a spawn swap
gentle sierra
Wait a minute , random map ? O.o @winter swallow
winter swallow
Twister 2018 where teams fight low BoX counts with no spawn swap in randomly drawn groups. 😂 I swear I could’ve died.
chilly hemlock
You mean mobile masters 2018?
winter swallow
Yes @gentle sierra . Ascents are random maps. No @chilly hemlock I mean Twister 2018. Remember TJs interview lol
chilly hemlock
Hard to forget that one...
winter swallow
He made a series of very agreeable points.
chilly hemlock
What ever the tie breaker map is, it should always be a mirrored map
Mayan
Winter mal
Desert sands
gentle sierra
Mines 👀
winter swallow
Yamato Harbour / Mayan / Winter Mal/ Desert Sands
chilly hemlock
Not canal canyon castilla etc
Good
Tired of that non sense
Tj btw made good points but in the wrong way and at the wrong time
winter swallow
Not oasis palms. Not black goldville. Not most maps. New Bay could work though I think?
chilly hemlock
It came off in a sore loser sort of way and reflected poorly on the team and on the clan
winter swallow
Tbh. He picked the moment with the most exposure. That scores points. With me.
It might have come off as being a sore loser to anyone who doesn’t play or watch blitz tournaments. To everyone in the know, i.e. 99% of people in this channel - it made perfect sense.
gleaming pollen
In new Bay c cap is faster to cap than b
chilly hemlock
He also gave bushka an option
Agree and never be allowed back
Or hang him out to dry
gleaming pollen
Otherwise pretty balanced map
chilly hemlock
Which I understand 100%
winter swallow
I think I could’ve answered it
“WG have done a great job here, but TJ has got some good points. There have been quite a few format changes and it’s been tough, even for these pro Teams, to adapt”
winter swallow
Aye perhaps.
Well let’s see how it all pans out.
At least the frequent changes / forays into new territory keep the tournament scene on its toes.
chilly hemlock
Not to mention new tier x buffs and consumables
vital obsidian
Where is it said its random maps? There is the map list but guess teams will have time between rounds to prepare for next map coming up, as it usually is. I cant see the maps pops up randomly at battle start?
atomic tartan
Winter Mal actually isn’t a mirror map
The firing lanes are significantly different
winter swallow
Fair point.
Is Faust a mirror ? Ish? Tbh the newer maps are all incredibly hard for me to wrap my head around strategically. Hmm. Open call to any top team callers if they would like to volunteer a confidential chat about Faust, new bay and Normandy re: their strats?
@wicked snow @silver vapor @thorn shale ? Actually just info about your units in general would be helpful.
Any strats you’d like to share via DMs would be greatly appreciated, so I know what to keep an eye out for xxx
silver vapor
🤔 New Bay is sort of new and wasn't in the pool so we didn't do much about it
winter swallow
#inb4rollingmissesaboostand3kills :/
silver vapor
unless you're telling me that New Bay is actually in the map pool for Twister
winter swallow
Ah yes true new bay not in rotation. For the ascents at least. Idk map pool for other stages.
silver vapor
ono you're right It could be in the online finals (darn)
how did I missed such a obvious trap in wording
dim pivot
Online finals, lets have mines with encounter battle
winter swallow
I would expect WG to use new bay in the pros or offlines
It’s their new flagship map 🛳 🗺 💥 - but I fully support their decision to exclude it from the qualifiers.
However, I am really hoping that @chilly terrace can confirm whether the random map will be shown in the tournament room to participating teams, or if they only find out when the battle starts?
Also, I’d like to know if the same random map is picked for each matchup or if each map will have its own randomly allocated map etc.
green plover
@winter swallow I think in regulations for ascent it said registration closes one hour before tourney begins
So when registration closes it takes a few mins to match the teams vs each other based off strongest to weakest and then it’ll show in the tournament section for everyone to see maybe 55 minutes before actual games start.
winter swallow
Aye. Will be interesting to see how many more teams come in tbh. @green plover how is NA looking? @silver vapor , Asia? In terms of number of teams etc.
silver vapor
Asia is currently sitting at a sad total 6 teams registered, with 2 of which are FEAST teams, and 16 teams that could be readied up before registration
tawny parcel
are you going to make tournaments for people that dont have friends on blitz tank so we can join in as an individual ????
silver vapor
tournaments will always be 7 vs 7 or 3 vs 3 (top 3 tournaments for example)
tawny parcel
I mean we can have teams just like normal play so we can get tournament points and prizes
winter swallow
I believe those are called public matches ...
@silver vapor odds look good for those teams then XD
green plover
@winter swallow I believe on NA there isn’t any registered teams yet if there are then it belongs to a team of 40%s who just register and don’t play
tawdry gulch
Why the hell can't we have a tournament tonight?
I do not give a ##}{ about the twister... i with my mate are playing since 5 years and we enjoy are sunday tournament
We will never win the twister but we win a lot of non important one
Let the plebe enjoy you bad WG
stark crow
@tawdry gulch just wait till next sunday
half urchin
@green plover is na server boycotting the twister cup bc of the one team per clan rule?
median mason
It will only work if all high-skilled clans take part in this. If only a few then there is no sense
green plover
@half urchin in my opinion that sounds like a very dumb idea, so probably not.
half urchin
was just wondering because of your text from above. but yeah dont think a boycott will be worth
green plover
Ah I confused @winter swallow sentence. I thought he asked how many teams were already registered. When I checked there was only one team that had registered a team and then I got too lazy to check the teams that have enrolled.
mental yarrow
I'm loving the stupid amounts of lag asia server is getting, looking forward to a great ascent tourney tonight
graceful jetty
Amen
vital obsidian
8 teams registered in asia 🤔
carmine solstice
When the timer is finished on the event, is that it or do we get 24 hours to collect rewards?
Details say we get a day but not worth the risk lol
leaden belfry
@vital obsidian how many groups of 16 will that make? 🤔 🙃
I've asked wg for clarification on the map thing when I noticed it, btw, but haven't had a reply yet
First Twister qualifiers, maps were random. We had to use a general lineup that would work for most maps. The description now says that the maps are random - but it has been clarified that the second match you start in the other spawn
So I want to know if you see the map beforehand, or only when you enter the battle
vital obsidian
If maps totally randomly popping up that would be a huge change why do that first time in the most prestigeful tour on blitz 🤔
The ticket system should be removed asap
There should be no system which further lower the team count
graceful jetty
Its now 10 teams registered in asia 😍
We will make 11 and then theres a couple others as well
vital obsidian
👍
forest matrix
Yes ticket system is getting rly irrelevant with so few teams applying 😨
winter swallow
good luck @silver vapor for 4.5 hours from now.
silver vapor
👍 let's hope Wargaming can sort out this super delays of Asia server that has been putting everyone in chaos for the last weekend, before the tournament, otherwise it's a big oof tonight
winter swallow
As a theory, is it possible teams aren't registering for Ascent because they don't realise it is the Twister Qualifier?
silver vapor
totally possible, or alternatively the activity required is way too intense for them to be motivated to join, and that would be what I think
winter swallow
4 days per week, including 3 week days, over 2 weeks. Just to qualify for the Pros... it's a big ask. But. TBF. Pros last year were equally intense and over a longer duration. Well 3 days per week but still.
half urchin
i guess even on eu server there will be only two and a half group
winter swallow
I think WG will opt to create maximum number of groups Monday - Tuesday so that Thursday and Saturday are full.
CIS looking like EU last year -
half urchin
nahh on thursday/saturday there are groups of 32, no way this group will be full
silver vapor
it's a wish that is asking to be not fulfilled
winter swallow
Mon / Tues = 16 x 16 full groups. Top 4 go to Thurs / Sat. @half urchin If WG have 64 teams in Mon / Tues they can fill Thurs and Sat. Just it would be 16 groups of 4 Mon / Tues
oh boi, there's only 20 teams registered on EU 🙈
half urchin
yeah get the plan behinde, but i still dont think it will be more than 48 teams consecutive playing in the ascents for two weeks
yeah thats what im talking about 😂😂
winter swallow
Well, you've got a very strong point there.
leaden belfry
@vital obsidian it's not the first time they'd do the random map thing - like I said, it was the same first Twister. But it would be highly illogical. At the same time, I've learned never to assume the logical with WG, so I want clarification 😂
@chilly terrace what will happen now that only 11 teams are registered for the Ascend Tournament of Asia server (12, when E7 registers too)? Even if there are a few more, it'll be very far from the desired number of clans/groups. Will they be stuffed together in 1-2 groups, or will they be divided into the max amount of groups and basically win by default?
stuffing them together would give them battles, however, you might as well start the Professionals tournament about now then, as it's those clans that have registered + a few extra
vital obsidian
The ticket stuff should be removed asap
leaden belfry
I think the main issue here is the number of other tournaments being held tonight
those that aren't into the diehard stuff will go for those, not for this
EU has some hours left to go, but even we have only 20 teams registered atm, so I doubt we'll get to 256, somehow 🙃
vital obsidian
96 teams created in eu but many with only 1-2 players they will not be registered
For tomorrow 22 created... guess there will not even be as many as today, why would those who lose today bother if they dont got any tickets - remove tickets asap
leaden belfry
they'll register tomorrow because there's not a scala of other tournaments planned tomorrow
leaden belfry
scala = a lot
leaden belfry
hmmm. maybe a Dutch thing then
leaden belfry
"Scala is een van oorsprong Latijns en veel in het Italiaans voorkomend woord dat staat voor 'een groot aantal', 'variaties' of 'reeks'." Scala is an of origin Latin and much used Italian word that means "a large number", "variations" or "series"."
I thought it was a normal English word too, tbh, I've seen it been used often enough 😂
winter swallow
How many tournaments are there tonight???
leaden belfry
4
winter swallow
You are a weak team: Do you...
A) Join Tier X Ascent to be matched SW MM vs. RA1D where you will be beaten if they turn up with 7x Tortoises
... or do you...
B) Join a lower tier Ascent where you stand a better chance of beating someone/have more tanks to use
?
leaden belfry
the Twister Ascend, which isn't even listed at the top, and the Twister Season Non Clan quick tournaments in tiers X, VIII, VI
@winter swallow exactly. That's the problem with doing this on the same day
winter swallow
I fully support WG on the decision re: this tournament format. But offering alternatives dilutes the playerbase too much IMO.
green plover
Tbh they should’ve limited the amount of quick tournaments to just one quick tournament in the middle of the week so people would register more teams instead of waiting until maybe Wednesday to play a quick tournament that way the Monday and Tuesday tournaments have more teams registered. Just my opinion.
vital obsidian
Its good to offer something to pc players
winter swallow
World of Tanks
silver vapor
it's funny that I just don't like the PC counterpart of this game. it's feels like now Blitz is the better game to play
winter swallow
WoT PC is just too campy. You could argue it rewards patience but honestly, it mainly rewards you for sitting back and doing sweet nothing - unless you are a light tank. In that respect, the defined tank roles are more prominent. Light tanks are MUCH lighter than heavy tanks. But then they also have arty, which is singularly one of the worst game features ever made. I'm so glad Blitz doesn't have WoT PC arty.
To swing this message back to tournaments - WoT PC tournaments failed because people play 15v15, so the 7v7 was almost unrelatable and on those huge maps, the mechanics were super weird.
Blitz has the right pace for esports and the format is natively compatible with regularly gameplay.
leaden belfry
#off-topic-discussion pls, not here 😘
for the most part, that is. But just keep it limited to tournaments here, pls
low badger
Imo I think wg did a good job this year, I don't know what they did that made me happy with the format. This one just wastes my time more in qualifiers.
dapper current
Hi guys i really want a format that was like last year. this is very uncool to watch on streams. its like watching ufc compared to bellator and I could really use a format thats less time for qualifiers and more time for the actual tournament. Please use the time of the players wisely
winter swallow
@dapper current I'll do my best to make it as interesting as possible. Still asking if you really are the real Pico tho 😄
silver vapor
@chilly terrace there was heavy delay in Asia server for the past weekend, and I afraid this will hit the first day of Ascent hard if Wargaming decides to proceed without any fixes or solution to the problem experienced by Asia server players. please advise.
leaden belfry
@vital obsidian got a reply regarding the map thing - you see the map beforehand in the room. So you won't go in blind 👌
dapper current
big man rexy on the mic
vital obsidian
Ok @leaden belfry tx 👍
low badger
@chilly terrace Thanks for being our dude to WG, and for all the good you've done for the community. I find it extra nice when you let us know about all the sweet sweet compensation we get 😋 Keep up the good work mai dooooodddddddd, and make this twister extra gud
silver vapor
wat compensation
dim pivot
wat compensation
low badger
the compensation u get from free riding a wg tournament
chilly terrace
@buoyant saddle Regulations and prizes of Professional and Challengers tournaments will be announced on the 9th of September.
@vital obsidian You can find this information here: https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15743/
@thick crystal We are not planning to hold IX tiers tournament now.
@forest matrix @leaden belfry Priority to filling groups.
@chilly hemlock They are not coming back this year.
@winter swallow Players will be able to see maps after the creation of brackets. (5-10 minutes after registration closes). Each map will be played twice with switching respawn.
@silver vapor This problem has already fixed. It was fixed on Saturday.
silver vapor
@chilly terrace fixed on Saturday?? don't even joke me, me and my team was experiencing this issue on Sunday night here.
@chilly terrace if you want to know more about how people are experiencing this issue, feel free to take a visit at #585464171349409811 or heck even the KoK server that PK hosts, you'll see the amount of comments on Sunday about how people are still having the delays.
leaden belfry
@chilly terrace I'm sorry, I don't understand that, could you please explain that further? you get x amount of cups for your position, and top 4 positions get a ticket, right? So if WG condenses the groups because too few teams registered, that means that teams that otherwise would get a ticket/more cups won't now? Considering there's only 4 ticket-tournaments these two weeks and 4 ticket-using tournaments, that might well make it a challenge to get a top 8 at all, not to mention the fact that it may mean more matches tonight, and tomorrow, but much less so on Thursday and Saturday?
winter swallow
Awesome. Thanks for the info and clarity @chilly terrace - your time and efforts in replying to us here are always greatly respected and appreciated.
dim pivot
asias lag problems r far from fixed
leaden belfry
in case of Asia, this means that 4 clans will get tickets tonight. Likely those same 4 clans, maybe a few different ones, will get tickets tomorrow. That means that Thursday/Saturday, there'll be 4-6 clans available to play
silver vapor
"I see this as an absolute win!" @leaden belfry
leaden belfry
you get a lot less cups today and tomorow than you do on Thursday/Saturday
dim pivot
Lol that is tru, clans can make it into top 8 in asia without playing the ticket ascent @leaden belfry
low badger
@chilly terrace will we get custom clan logos / avatars
So the tldr is that bad teams shouldn't play or that there isn't enough teams...?
winter swallow
SW MM and small team pools where 95% of teams are 60% is large deterrent for weaker teams where they can quickly assess their likely match up will be a previous pro-attendee team. - IMO - I know from my time leading IRMA (an average 58% team usually) back in 2016, that if I knew we'd likely face off game 1 versus R-2-K / RA1D etc., that we'd struggle to finding people willing to join the team.
low badger
Lots of teams play like they've given up in QTs and best to worst seeded tournaments before they left the spawn honestly...
Because they have a chance to win big...? I don't think many people play to lose in all honesty, even when the odds are stacked against them
chilly terrace
@low badger If you can get it, you will be able to find out information about this in news.
velvet dome
@chilly terrace 1 of my clan mates for todays tourney accepted the invite to the ascent tourney earlier today, but then he was removed. Can you please do something about it? Last he checked he was in the team, i myself put him in, but then he went for class.
@chilly terrace can u do anything? he is online now, just finished class.
winter swallow
Asia locked in at 23 teams over 2 groups. Appears that 7 teams have "by-rounds" as matches are only shown for 8 fixtures.
chilly terrace
@velvet dome Unfortunately, we can't help with it. Even if we add him manually, he won't receive invitation to the training room. What's his nickname?
velvet dome
R_Necromancer_
silver vapor
@chilly terrace here I’m going to present you the lag and delays we are facing.
https://twitter.com/maddoxkkm1/status/1168475796496736257?s=21 . If you call this “fixed” this would be a big disappointment
dim pivot
And while this is happening, the rooms for the first ascent of this twister are up in Asia
The first game will start in 3 mins
Unfair
violet hemlock
You need to make the ascent thing in tournament tab way bigger and prettier to entice people to register lol
gentle sierra
So how will the groups in the ticketed tourneys be since we have so few team playing ?🤔
violet hemlock
You’ll have 8-12 teams in a group of 32 xd
silver vapor
^^
ascent 101
silver vapor
news flash, I was notified that one of the comp JP players wasn't able to login, and it's tour time lmao.... what a way to begin Twister cup.
frosty nexus
@silver vapor any details about the issue with login please?
silver vapor
https://twitter.com/isshan_2015/status/1168478832912764930?s=20
a player from ND team
It just proofs how unstable the environment of Asia server is right now, with some players not being able to login reliably, and we all still experiencing delays. I can't see how this is "fixed" at all.
chilly terrace
@silver vapor We fixed issue with lags about an hour ago. We provided information to developers as soon as you said that asia still was having problems.
About player from ND: He should write to the support. Such problems often are not related to our servers.
silver vapor
@chilly terrace adding to the lag information, my team comes from many different places. me from Australia, 1 from Indonesia, 2 from India, 1 from Thailand, 2 from Hong Kong, and 2 from Vietnam, all are experiencing higher delays than usual, and I've seen a lot of Japanese teams complain about this as well. We're not even from the same country anymore, and how would this be possible?
chilly terrace
@silver vapor They are not available to login or they are have lags? These are different problems. If you still have lags, could you rec one litlle video which demonstrate it?
silver vapor
they're all delays and lags. I already did, it's https://twitter.com/maddoxkkm1/status/1168475796496736257?s=21
chilly terrace
@silver vapor When this video was recorded?
silver vapor
definitely less than an hour ago.
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Are there any players who still have login problems? If so, please, provide their nicknames.
@silver vapor I had wrong information. Problem was fixed 30 minutes ago. Shortly before the start of the tournament. Do you have any videos with lags after 19:00 (UTC +8)?
silver vapor
@chilly terrace I have not heard anything about anymore players that cannot login so far.
I'm currently in the tournament so I'll be recording and sending any lag videos out.
chilly terrace
@silver vapor The problem is our graphs is showing that everything is OK. So video would be useful to understand what's going on.
forest matrix
@chilly terrace thanks for going through all messages and answering my question. Unfortunately maximizing group filling with low number of teams will rly emphasize importance of Mon / Tue tourneys and huge dependencies on group drawing. Let's see how it goes tonight but I rly expect some big clans not having tickets.
thorn shale
So far there are 24 teams registered... how are we meant to have more than like 4-8 teams in the ticketed tournaments? (If the rule of 16 teams per group for Mon/Tues Tournaments remains active)
median mason
8 groups filled with 3 teams each #ez
thorn shale
You know that top 4 out of a group get tickets 😂😂 @median mason
median mason
Oh, I did not. So no problem then
thorn shale
I would rather say there is a big problem
silver vapor
https://twitter.com/maddoxkkm1/status/1168491082960625664?s=21
Feels better, but i got teleported around 1 minute mark, so might want to understand what happened there @chilly terrace
forest matrix
@median mason rexy said priority to group filling. So 24 teams means ... 2 groups .... 8 teams earn ticket. Ticket tournament will just increase the gap.
Well it just does not work....
Maybe could they cancel one ticketed tournament so that u can earn tickets during 2 first tournaments
median mason
Ah, now I see whats the issue
thorn shale
Nah that doesnt fix this either. Its just the whole concept this year that is not suited for the low amount of teams
violet hemlock
There’s about 20 teams with 6-9 players unregistered on Eu, so 3 groups tonight probably
gentle sierra
use old system with bo5 in finals , ez fix
vital obsidian
Agree the system was built for 100 + teams not for 20-60
forest matrix
Let's see maybe we could finish the day with like 60 clans. 🤞
gentle sierra
Higly unlikely
vital obsidian
Lool how many with only 1-2 players
violet hemlock
It’s likely we will see around 45-50 teams
winter swallow
I'll explain tournament layout re tickets and cups etc. In prelude to my stream tonight
gentle sierra
🍿
vital obsidian
If tkt system remains there must be many groups or just give tkt to all
winter swallow
Actually prefer the approach to fill groups - as a streamer and also to assist in selecting the BEST 8 teams for pros
forest matrix
Sure but then ticket tournament become less attractive. And I fear tomorrow to be even worst
I would recommend to extend tickets earning to top 8 teams. Would make more sense
gentle sierra
OR use the old system 🍿
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Thanks. We will check out, what the problem is.
silver vapor
also @chilly terrace see #585464171349409811 for players who are not able to connect at all.
wild carbon
well yesterday we're doing PK's KoK Asian Tournament with such a annoying asf 1 sec delay for almost every action in battle
and now i cant even login
btw im asian server
chilly terrace
@wild carbon Did you try to reconnect to WiFi/4G network?
wild carbon
Both of em
chilly terrace
What's your nickname?
wild carbon
R_AfterNath [R1RY]
vital obsidian
6 h to go in eu: 108 teams created, 27 registered, 60 with 5 or less players 🤔
thorn shale
If a clan has two teams that win cups, both teams add cups for their clan's total, or just one?
vital obsidian
Only one for cups but both can get tkts
thorn shale
What are those tickets that get the top 4 teams today?
gentle sierra
For tourney on thursday
thorn shale
And in that tourney u can get more cups?
gentle sierra
@thorn shale yes
thorn shale
Thanks :)
velvet dome
On the plus side, this is the best format to get the literal best team in Asia. On one of the flip side, WG overestimated how much people actually have a life. For instance, 1 guy had school, one guy had work, one guy grandpa admitted to hospital, one guy struggling with connection, and South Korea or that area gonna be hit with Typhoon LingLing soon if im not mistaken.
dim pivot
Yea this format is nice, but i think wg shud have spread it out over more days
I mean 3 tournaments on weekdays are just too much to ask and considering u have to do every tournament is very hard for a lot of ppl
On top of that big clans get punished by having to split
velvet dome
Lmao, i also just realised, the format is anyone in the clan, that means anyone can play, but then, in the end, WG will only award prizes to 7 people, what about the others who contribute. I mean like, sure its WG prizes and WG tourney, but people are spending time on this as well to help the team get to the end spot.
vital obsidian
It would be great if all in clan or who played during ascent also get camo, and camo also for challenge tour
That would increase interest a lot I think
gentle sierra
Then there is no reason to call it a "pro" camo if everyone gets it, unless u are talking about a different one
vital obsidian
Just not another 90 d avatar 👀
lilac gazelle
Hi ,not used Discoed in ages..got bit dumb question are any tonights Twister Tournies live streamed
frosty nexus
@lilac gazelle hey, Professionals tournament will be streaming
lilac gazelle
cheers ty
frosty nexus
Also @leaden belfry and @winter swallow will be streaming Ascent tournament on EU today 🙂
But those streams today will be without rewards for watching
lilac gazelle
The BlueSteel told me there clan don't have live stream ...will any there clan Carnage be shown
thorn shale
@lilac gazelle Rollingswarm sticks wih EG and Amaunet with R2K
lilac gazelle
no worries about rewards , I just enjoy watching Tournies
thorn shale
In case they play against us you can see us play
lilac gazelle
Hi ya mate
leaden belfry
^ looking forwards to that 😁
lilac gazelle
@thorn shale cheers for friend invite....got to learn this app all over again lol
thorn shale
I agree with @vital obsidian dont give avatars... make other cool vamos for the ones that don’t get top 8 but finished near
silver vapor
japanese is good, but can we keep this place English only?
thorn shale
@thorn shale @lethal badge English please
lethal badge
ok
chilly hemlock
@winter swallow is this true on Eu?
@chilly terrace im curious as to why last year got a special camo and an event around twister and this year it’s been all thrown out the window. We will get the same recycled camos for the 5th time now if I count correctly
silver vapor
Anyway thanks @chilly terrace for confirming the information of lag in Asia being fixed. It was a very frustrating weekend with all those lags and hopefully everything doesn’t get broken from here on.
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock This year we've made other things for Twister.
@silver vapor We will watching for it.
chilly hemlock
I guess I will have to eagerly wait and see what that is
silver vapor
"other things", now when are those going to be announced 🤔
chilly hemlock
Probably after ascent
vital obsidian
@chilly terrace how many groups will there be today in eu? there is probs less than 60 teams playing
dim pivot
Wot? Less than 60? In eu? Cant be right
Damn, asia had 23, i expected eu to have above 100 or near about 70-80
silver vapor
"WhY iS cOmP sHrInKiNg"
vital obsidian
o maj
chilly hemlock
Maybe because there’s nothing new to comp
Meta shifts via consumables isn’t exactly an exciting change
dim pivot
cough cough lets not forget the t22
chilly hemlock
Watch the t-22 get banned from twister
dim pivot
^^^ i think almost everyone wudnt mind that, i know i don't
viscid python
I'd love to see that but I wont even dream that happening
chilly hemlock
I still stand by what I have said weeks ago
Ban premiums and collector tanks from comp
In every possible way it’s an unfair advantage
viscid python
Yeah. Eventually those will be killshot for comp.
chilly hemlock
Even just by having more flexibility
dim pivot
T22 is just too influential in a comp battle imo
I havent had problems against it in pub battles, just coz of the fact its very rare
chilly hemlock
Why bring a 140 anymore?
viscid python
To have a med which enemy can actually kill I guess😂😂
azure pecan
is that possible to know how long both types of ascents are ? Like, at which time are big finals held for both ascents
dim pivot
I played the non ticket ascent today and the final match begins after 1 hr 30 mins from start of tournament
analog osprey
I buy the t22 for the twister I know only now I’m still ban
azure pecan
okey nice
dim pivot
F
analog osprey
Thx all
green plover
Lmao @analog osprey until December you wait 😂😂
winter swallow
@chilly hemlock I am waiting to see it in action at higher CW level. In randoms I think it is overpowered. But that is just my opinion.
chilly hemlock
More so I think it’s funny because the fv is not popular on na
And I’m not sure how the Foch is limited
I think you’ll be right btw
Twister 4 will be consumable spam
winter swallow
Side armour is balance in public marches. But in cw a decent team won’t give you that angle. Ever.
chilly hemlock
Only time you’d get that angle is if a foch is pushing
In which case there’s probably other tanks coming as well
green plover
Who needs angling in t22 just yolo ez
gentle sierra
U can drice backwards if u feel like it and you still might bounce
winter swallow
Time will tell. The professional tournament meta will reveal state of game.
gentle sierra
T22s 215bs fochs with a pinch of stb and 4005s
winter swallow
Maybe a maus and t110e3 here n there
gentle sierra
Ye
thorn shale
@winter swallow every game there will be foch, fv, stb/t22
Bc, maus and 268 might help out here and there but thats rly it
gentle sierra
U only use 140s if u dont have t22 basically😂
thorn shale
Exactly
lilac gazelle
@thorn shale gl in Tourny tonight matey
@winter swallow cheers added ur channel to watch Tournies ty for big help
thorn shale
I’m fairly certain IS4 will still be the most played tank this Twister
No other tank can fill the role that it fills
viscid python
E5 perhaps.
vital obsidian
113
viscid python
That too. IS-4 so weak nowadays
green plover
E5 and 113 replacing is4? 🤔 idk what you’ve been drinking but clearly it’s good stuff.
vital obsidian
🥂
silver vapor
Gimme some of it whatever you guys are having
atomic tartan
IS-4 weak? How did that happen
gentle sierra
i expect to see more 215bs than is4s on eu server at least
forest matrix
Well here your opponent is not determined yet, so we can’t tell
leaden belfry
he's talking about the maps that were supposed to be random
winter swallow
Maps are random before registration concludes, then they are selected.
Also times are accurate. 7pm + 7min game + 2min break + 7min game + 2 min break + 7min game = 7:25. 2 minute delay then 5 minute room timer = 7:32.
@glass thunder - what’s not correct? You’ve got me curious lol
@thorn shale after watching EG- I am convinced is4 is toast. It’s too slow and doesn’t pack enough DPM. I think the is4 won’t be a mainstay this year.
gentle sierra
👀
median mantle
Put 8 is4 in a team and it’s easy win tho
winter swallow
113 got speed. 215 got a lot going on. 113 might feature.
Maus isn’t viable in current meta except on very specific maps. E100 lol. E5 is the jack of all trades but e50m is better. Clippers also not viable in current meta (155 , t22). Is7 is behind is4 for armour and 113 for speed. Vk lol.
In all seriousness, the only reason to take an is4 is because you don’t have a 215b.
barren gate
7URKS offered a rly good resistance with their is4
thorn shale
@winter swallow yes and no. 7urks used them really well the first game on desert sands.
I think if a team that has the same CW experience as EG used IS4s it would still be very viable
However I do agree that it’s not the magical solution to make up for a lack in player skill, because I’d say last twister it was very much that way
@barren gate well played today btw 💙
barren gate
thkks. I hope u will perform too tonigh ❤ @thorn shale
barren gate
I am sure u will 😉
green orchid
IS4 lives in 2018 meta K
green orchid
Safe to say you'll be using them tonight with your strats then hmm nice to know
thorn shale
7 IS4s incoming 👀👀
winged saffron
IS-4 or nothing
obsidian vine
Anyone streaming NA ascent tonight?
tall python
doubt it. if i had to guess, we’ll only be on stream for saturday tourneys since streamers can stay up late on weekends :v feels bad having no NA streamers that could cover us like it is on other servers
obsidian vine
Agreed
short tundra
General questions regarding tournaments
- Can team captain benched himself on some maps, or is his presence required in every matches.
- Can the 2 reserve players spectate the match while waiting for their turn?
potent wave
hello
elder sinew
@short tundra team captain can bench on some maps and the 2 reserve players can spectate while waiting
elder sinew
@junior osprey #tourneys-team-search
frail chasm
My clan UNI0N just won teir 10 tournament
low badger
Oh ok
faint scaffoldBOT
TankCommander0101#0506 has been warned.
obsidian vine
@Liquid Fox#7674 wow cool
winter swallow
Tanner I’m doing Thursdays too
short tundra
@elder sinew thank you for the information.
wanton lion
winter swallow
@obsidian vine who got tickets last night on NA?
low badger
Uh
chilly terrace
@glass thunder We've changed this line to more clear one. Thank you for pointing it out.
@short tundra
- He doesn't have to play each battle.
- If this option is on in tournament, they can.
short tundra
@chilly terrace thank you.😀
silver vapor
@chilly terrace apparently @vague swallow has just confirmed that there were instabilities observed on the SG_P3 server https://twitter.com/WoTBlitz_jpn/status/1168798717849137152?s=19
It is possible to confirm that and would it affect any team's performance tonight? Thanks in advance.
The reason I'm asking about SG_P3 is that because I'm currently logged into SG_P3 (Tokyo), even though geographically i should be in P2 (if P2 is still located at Singapore), because I'm currently in Australia. I'll definitely need someone to explain how this server cluster thing works in Asia because there still have not been any information on the English side of things.
thorn shale
2 minutes between the rounds 😄
winter swallow
@glass thunder - imes are accurate. 7pm + 7min game + 2min break + 7min game + 2 min break + 7min game = 7:25. 2 minute delay then 5 minute room timer = 7:32.
The time is fixed to include maximum play time of previous matches AND also you get 2 minutes between each round vs same opponent
thorn shale
Well true, but giving us the exact times when we play (like 20:00, 20:32 etc) would have been far more helpful and clear to all of us players @winter swallow
low badger
So is twister quals supposed to feel like a normal bronze tournament or is there something else to it
chilly terrace
@silver vapor This is not permanent issue, it happens from time to time. We are working on fixing it.
winter swallow
@low badger It's meant to be like Twister Qualifiers but with more shots at qualifying. In theory, it reduces the number of upsets 😄
I am actually and genuinely a big fan of the format this year, now that we are seeing it in action and have more info to hand.
half urchin
i agree that the format is a good idea, but after the first day i am the opinion that the qualifiers are way too long. one week with this format would have been enough. for me i really dont like to invest another week that much time for qualifiers
viscid python
Yeah. With this amount of teams one week would be enough. But two would be necessary if there would be decent amount of teams too.
Now only 60%+ teams are attending..
Not least because poor prizing and quick qt same evening. For 50%er teams, going to quick is more reasonable for sure.
barren gate
Agree with blaster
winter swallow
Aye if players can win more in QT they’ll go,there. Tournament prizes are the draw over random matches for many people.
silver vapor
Asia has slightly more teams tonight - 30, but still only 8 teams getting the tickets for Thursday or Saturday. So far quite a bit of surprises I'd say
winter swallow
Assuming exact same teams and exact same wrs yes.... but this is highly unlikely.
elfin anvil
the top end will look the same every tournament, noone wants to miss out
and if you play against unexperienced clan A or B is not changing things
silver vapor
I can't understand wargaming's map choice. 2 days we are playing the same map against the same team. what's the point?
chilly hemlock
Counter strats
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Maps are set randomly. It means that there is no connection between maps in Ascent Tournament #1 and Ascent Tournament #2 besides general map pool. So it's coincidence.
silver vapor
that was just a random rant so don't mind me @chilly hemlock coming up with counter strats in qualifiers? boi the big brain games are on for sure this time around
chilly hemlock
Nothing new for na
silver vapor
I couldn't be bothered to come up with counter strats just in the qualifiers lol
if it's the professionals, ofc. but definitely not keen for that in qualifiers if we already secured the ticket I tink
thorn shale
@chilly terrace question about the strongest vs weakest principle for seeding. Last night on NA, there were 3 groups of approximately 15. However in one of the groups, the team with the highest winrate, and the the team with the 3rd highest winrate got matched into the same group. If it’s strongest vs weakest, wouldn’t the 4 highest winrate teams be in 3 different groups?
chilly terrace
@thorn shale The displaying team winrate in game client doesn't match with winrate that is using by tournament system. You can read about tournament rating here: https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15743/
thorn shale
Ok
Are there any plans to display the correct winrate in game since it can be confusing?
viscid python
Or since it is easy to put 100% wr guy with one game to team as 9th player ?
chilly terrace
@viscid python You can, but it won't help you so much
viscid python
Oh, true. Just noticed it notes amount of games too. 😅😃👍
thorn shale
@viscid python where does it say that?
viscid python
Tf doesnt it👀😂
"The total number of victories of these players is added together.
The winning percentage values for these players is added together.
The result is divided by N."
green orchid
wicked snow
Can an entire team get banned because one of the member's nickname is innapropriate ? @chilly terrace
gentle sierra
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 @wicked snow
wicked snow
I see u r reading my mind 😂😂😂 @gentle sierra
magic bay
gentle sierra
I know nothing😶
wicked snow
😂😂😂 @magic bay
crisp shore
🤔
chilly hemlock
@thorn shale you forget that it’s only the top 7
flat goblet
That’s an old concept, I think they changed it to top 7 WR some time ago
vagrant phoenix
It just says it uses minimum number of players to register the team which means 7, but it doesn't specifically say that it's the top 7 wr players
slim token
What commie said. This way the 3v3 tourneys use the top 3.
pallid raven
flat tinsel
Is there a streaming schedule for this week or weekend?
thorn shale
Would the quick tournaments that starts at 6:00pm eastern be available any time soon?
flat goblet
@chilly terrace Hello Rexy! I am interested in how a team's WR is determined. It seems that it does not match up with what is show in game, rather there are extra calculations. Is simply the average of the top 7 win rates on the team, or are player's WRs weighted depending on how many battles they 'contribute' towards the team? So a 70% player with 10k battles has less weight on team average than a 70% player with 20k battles.
fringe galleon
Anyone streaming NA ascent?
flat goblet
I believe rolling is
chilly hemlock
@flat goblet I thought it was top 7 wr and then weighted by battle count
flat goblet
That's what I suspect but I would like clarification. I've just been looking at the groups and they seem somewhat odd.
slim token
The link Rexy posted earlier says they are weighted by the number of victories
winter swallow
Team strength weight is calculated as per rules and regulations. I will stream Asia and NA ticketed Ascent tournaments.
graceful jetty
Starting from tomorrow? @winter swallow
winter swallow
Aye.
winter swallow
@graceful jetty - @leaden belfry Will follow E7, I will follow FEAST.
graceful jetty
Ty 👌
leaden belfry
mind you though, I won't stream on Asia or NA on Thursday, just the Saturdays
I'm saving having to take time off work for later stages, as it's a bit tricky atm >.>
winter swallow
Top 11 : EU (There's 5 teams on 396 cups and 2 teams on 394)
Top 11 CIS : (Also loads of teams tied after this point)
graceful jetty
@leaden belfry 😦
leaden belfry
sowwi =(
graceful jetty
In that case maybe rolling should switch to following us just for thursday.. I mean.. You want quality gameplay right
winter swallow
lol @silver vapor you know I am taking half days off work to cover Asia right? 😉
(p.s. I LOVE good, clean smack talk)
silver vapor
Let’s face it E7 is more capable of delivering kuality kontent at this point than FEAST amirite @graceful jetty
graceful jetty
I mean yes but its always been this way amirite
silver vapor
Maybe 🙃
graceful jetty
Nah u know we love u maddox
silver vapor
As long as wargaming doesn’t gimme horrible maps against E7 we all gud @winter swallow
graceful jetty
Only canal pls wg
tender tundra
no where copperfield
plucky portal
Copperfield best map
bleak crypt
Where mirage
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock Top-7 mentioned, but in the general view: "N team members are taken, where N is the minimum number of players required for team registration."
@flat goblet The winrate which is shown in the game is counted by other way. It counts amount of battles and reserve players. You can find how tournament winrate is counted to the link above.
dim pivot
I mean if i was a streamer, i'd stream e7 myself
low badger
@chilly terrace do we have a fan voting system similar to last year?
dim pivot
@low badger i mean fan containers have been announced beforr top 8 hv been determined so i guess thats a no
O nvm, we cant get fan containers yet, so theres still a chance
winter swallow
From the in game article it seems that fan containers will be returning
chilly terrace
@winter swallow They will be different from last year.
winter swallow
oooooo - exciting! 😄
half urchin
so no fan banners this year?
winter swallow
well banners became avatars, so maybe?
chilly hemlock
@chilly terrace is the camo only for the fcm or will this be available for all tanks?
Also. Is it being sold for gold?
median mason
The camo is legendary
chilly hemlock
I want it on all my tier x’s
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock FCM only
chilly hemlock
So a camo made for the fcm, a tier 8, to commemorate a tier 10 tournament
median mason
looking at the bulldog
graceful jetty
Pls let me put this one in 113 rexy
graceful jetty
I am sad. At least be sad with me
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock It's camo for the tank which will be reward for the event for all players who will watch for the Twister this year.
chilly hemlock
I understand that
Just like the twister bulldog
It just feels hollow for the people actually in the pro season and for the ones who go to twister
Fcm means nothing to them
graceful jetty
I wonder which god level tier 4 tank will be available in spring season next year
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock People who actually in pro season are not watchers. They will receive their own rewards which will be described in regulations of Professional tournament.
silver vapor
does that mean better prizes for pro season participants? for once?
chilly hemlock
Like the pro season camo for potentially the 5th time
chilly terrace
@chilly hemlock like the chance to go to Twister Cup 2019 and win part of 100.000$
chilly hemlock
Same as last year
atomic tartan
Honestly just reshading the existing Pro camo to idk, pink and green or something would be nice
chilly hemlock
Exactly^
atomic tartan
At least its not the exact same camo every time for the last one and a half years
silver vapor
I'd take the pro camos and pro avatar as a symbol of "recognized" rather than something new we should get something different everytime 🤔
chilly hemlock
Most of us understand that only one team gets to go to twister. I think the rest of us would like something visual to say in normal games that we were in pro season
Redoing the pro season camo from blue and orange to say green and purple is a start
Just something different each year would be a fun way to show that you are either a veteran or that your team is a new threat
Even just a twister 4 pro season avatar that’s permanent would be awesome
Instead of just a default pro season avatar
The differentiation of each pro season makes it feel more special and unique
It’s why the old 4K rating camo didn’t feel special
Or the current pro season camos
gentle sierra
Purple and black pro camo 👀
chilly hemlock
Anything
thorn shale
@chilly hemlock let’s hope people who make top 8 will get some sick rewards
Imagine if the winning team got T22s 😈
gentle sierra
🤔
thorn shale
😄
proven plank
t22 upper front plate is cheeks
chilly hemlock
I just don’t think recycling a camo for the fifth time is a way to do that
gentle sierra
🤔
thorn shale
I agree 100%
chilly hemlock
I remember the first time the pro camos came out
thorn shale
Remember when it was a flex to own the pro camo?
chilly hemlock
EVERYONE wanted them
chilly terrace
Each season you have possibility to win big amount of in-game property, real money and the most rare camos and avatars in the game.
chilly hemlock
Rexy I understand that
All I’m saying is that I just wish the camos would change is all
I think a lot of teams that make top 8 understand that they won’t go to twister
So the camos are the best thing they get
Which is awesome
thorn shale
In fact, only 1 of 8 teams that make into top 8 will go to Minsk 😳
chilly hemlock
If they are different each year
Right tj but realistically 3-4 only have a true shot
Usually at least
I’ve been to three offlines and it’s an amazing experience. I have zero complaints with that
I just wish the camos could change for those that don’t get to go to twister
I’m not trying to be negative just to be difficult
The first time I put on the pro camos and went in pub matches, everyone was asking “WOW HOWD YOU GET THAT?!”
And that’s gone now
It would be cool if:
2017 blue and orange
2018 black and white
2019 green and purpl
Etc
fringe galleon
Remember, you get very good compensation for pro camos when u already have them 😂
green orchid
Nice 20k credits real compensation for professional eSports players 👌
chilly terrace
@green orchid There is nothing to compensate. It's camo that provided for each player in Professional tournament. It's just a sign for all other players that you have been there.
viscid python
@fringe galleon This --> () ? 😁😅😂
tall python
any chance we can get the twister camo that’s on the FCM for twister participants as well? would be a change up vs the old pro season camos. could change up the colors on it for variation. would be a nice touch for both players and viewers to see a new camo for players playing at the top level
winter swallow
@thorn shale actually maybe not 1/8 due to wild card 😉
tall python
oh i think what i brought up may have already been talked about. should have read above. big rip
half urchin
@chilly terrace sure thing that camo is special and you get recognised, but when you look at the players in top 8, it's probably always around 85-90% the same players in the esports tournaments. so for them it's nothing special to get this camo, just one prize less for the time investment
tall python
changing the color of the same pro season camo would make it even rarer than it already is.. and it’s just a color change. a small thing that could do good to the community.. but i guess that’s not something they’re interested in
flat goblet
In my time in competitive play, camo was a nice thing the first time. Now the only camo that is really special is the community choice one. Anything else is a resounding meh. Could complain/provide feedback on more useful things.
Like maybe the fact that it’s been how many offlines and it’s still somehow acceptable that nobody knows the dates until a week or two before?
chilly hemlock
Or tier x tanks getting buffed while on the plane to said offlines
thorn shale
so theres gona be same camo as always or different one?
fathom tiger
Same camo ofc
dreamy adder
@chilly terrace at least you recognize that the 20k credits shouldn't be named a compensation as it's pointless
thorn shale
😀
misty rampart
WG one thing: this year dont make the dumb thing to give better rewards to 9th clan compared to 6-8th teams.
humble summit
I just dont get why WG team doesn’t use Twister as an opportunity to acknowledge its outstanding players and try to at least acknowledge what they might think would makes this game cooler for them.. The guys that spend countless hours in TR’s, tons of money on new tanks, golding crews, watching streams. I get it hours playing the game does nothing for WG monetarily and a new camo inevitably cost WG money to deploy but... idk. Just sayin
ILY THO!
thorn shale
How new event works?
winter swallow
@silver vapor - I’ll be watching you 👀
@chilly hemlock I know, one could accuse me of stirring 🦙
green plover
@winter swallow you’re up early
winter swallow
@green plover I got into work for 6am and have taken 1 hours leave so I can leave at 1130am to stream Asia
winter swallow
Just in case anyone was wondering about my levels of dedication 😂
silver vapor
@winter swallow prepared to be disappointed 😝
winter swallow
@silver vapor you could never disappoint me xx
dim pivot
Maddox its time to lose in first round
winter swallow
make top 4 plz
silver vapor
The ticketed ascent will be shorter than non-ticketed right (for Asia only) because non-ticketed is like 16 per group and ticketed is only 7-9 teams depending on their preferences. @chilly terrace will the schedule be tweaked? Like first games starts at 7pm?
winter swallow
3 matches is still pretty good
also, @silver vapor - how many teams have tickets from Monday/Tuesday?
Because for any teams with 1 ticket, they might play today or Saturday - worth bearing in mind at least.
silver vapor
@winter swallow 8 teams from each day, currently 5 teams hold 2 tickets, and 6 teams hold 1 ticket
winter swallow
so minimum 5 teams today. - the 1 ticket teams may show Saturday. Though savvy team leaders will be keeping a very close eye on registration, and either swooping in for a lower team count or dodging a higher one
silver vapor
Yep
winter swallow
Are they likely to be that savvy though???
silver vapor
🤔 it may also depend on their schedule, but tonight it's likely to be 8 teams.
Tbh, 2:1 non-ticketed to ticketed tournament ratio should work as well imo
winter swallow
@chilly terrace - Just to tell you, I think the crate rewards look great this year 🙂
winter swallow
@silver vapor 6 so far, excluding E7 - glad I;m not following them tbh - they aren't even registered
😉 - btw, which clan is FEAST 2.0?
though I see XR and E7 are in process and with 7+ each, so your guess re: 8 seems on the money
silver vapor
-CW- is supposed to be FEAST 2.0
oak veldt
i blame noob knat for disbanding team jn
silver vapor
and yes E7 are also slow in registering :>
graceful jetty
Well i had to disband. The name wasnt right
I couldnt register with that name. Not while keeping a clear conscience
dim pivot
Ik for a fact that e7 has done this multiple times over different tournaments
They love their name but the best they've done is "maddox4minsk" and they won cts with that team name sooo
thorn shale
@chilly terrace will the top 8 of twister this year be again able to choose an own individual clan logo?
graceful jetty
No it was lct @dim pivot
dim pivot
?
dim pivot
Wait u did win something with maddox4minsk as ur team name
chilly terrace
@thorn shale The regulations and prizes for Professional and Challenger tournaments have not been announced yet
timber grotto
Give us a sneak peak 👀😉
graceful jetty
Here comes big boi maddox
silver vapor
We need custom clan logos for top 8 prizes kthx 😘
dim pivot
Maddox is right, can u reschedule the matches for todays ticket ascent rexy? Once reg is over that is
chilly terrace
@dim pivot Why should we do it?
dim pivot
Low number of teams, so its supposed to be 32 per grp, but say there r less than 8 teams registered today, that means 2 matches wud be skipped, so the tournament basically starts 1 hr later than usual tournament time
chilly terrace
@dim pivot The first matches start at 19:00(UTC +8) anyway
dim pivot
Mmk
thorn shale
@chilly terrace regarding the Strongest vs Weakest Format: Is it applied only for the group creation or also for the matches inside the groups. By that I mean if it is possible that very good clans, ie the strongest, play against each other today already in the first game of the tournament
chilly terrace
@thorn shale The strongest team always plays against the weakest within one group.
thorn shale
Thank you very much for your quick responses
chilly terrace
@thorn shale There are examples under each principle description in this article: https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15743/
thorn shale
Good to know, thank you
silver vapor
using wr to seed is very inappropriate especially in Asia IMO ._.
dim pivot
yea we have an epic group, its totally strongest vs weakest
silver vapor
if you really have played inside Asia comp, you can easily tell there is no correlation between wr and team strength at all ._. and how can teams get free extra cups just because they have better wr is just something that I can't understand
oak veldt
looks at R9 owo
distant tusk
There is some problems with my tournament tab, tried to refresh for 3 times, but still I got this. I hope, I will be invited to room to stream for Asia.
winter swallow
^ same issue for me
eager aurora
The button is still there, just press it
I got refreshed and display it correctly after doing it
frosty nexus
@distant tusk please reload the game and try again. We're investigating the issue
graceful jetty
@silver vapor only canal
silver vapor
nonono
graceful jetty
silver vapor
we go no.3 ☕
graceful jetty
oh
silver vapor
@chilly terrace I have a player complaining about they cannot control their tank in tournaments. please look into it and fix it
chilly terrace
@silver vapor Are you sure that the problem on our side? Bad connection, provider issues etc. can be reason of it.
silver vapor
idk. I also experienced a few instances where I cannot control my tank at all. but since it wasn't in tournaments I didn't think it was any big problem
it's also on SG_P3 where I heard there was some issues.
distant tusk
Congrats TN_MN!
silver vapor
@chilly terrace refer to rolling's stream at TN_MN's 2nd game for that
@wispy raptor was that the one? That was in training room
Appears the replay even disappeared and no battle results 🤔
For that game for the player who lagged out 🤔
chilly terrace
@silver vapor These issues were fixed. I see complain from only one player and our graphics don't show anything wrong.
silver vapor
🤔 how about the missing replay and missing battle results?
winter swallow
gg FEAST.
lilac gazelle
@winter swallow good day matey, Tourny on ur YT channel later
winter swallow
o7 - and Asia from earlier today
tepid sun
"the stream lives!" 😂 @winter swallow
Thanks for the nice stream! Looking forward for more streams later
graceful jetty
Ty for streaming asia rolling :)) @winter swallow
gentle sierra
Nice , all the teams in 1 group on Eu 😂 😂 😂
silver vapor
@gentle sierra erm. the teams are meant to be all in 1 group for the ticketed tournaments iirc
gentle sierra
Really ?🤔
silver vapor
idk, but iirc there's something like that said about in the description
actually lemme check
gentle sierra
Seems i've missed it , thx
silver vapor
okay, so 32 teams in 1 group :>
for Asia they said all teams in 1 group
gentle sierra
Only 19 teams registered thats why , my bad 👌
silver vapor
Might as well say it like asia lol
winter swallow
Yes it was always going to be groups of 32 in ticketed ascents
As for EU MM tonight, it's not the best we've ever seen. However, it ain't the worst. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398790640881631232/619223234449113088/image0.png?width=395&height=702
thorn depot
Yo how do u participate in this tournament
thorn shale
@fresh pine English please
faint scaffoldBOT
(МСåяFisн)#7964 has been warned.
lilac gazelle
Gratz every 1 on great tourny tonight was fun....and well done to Carnage
winter swallow
congrats to FBI - first EU ticketed ascent winner. Storming the leaderboard with many many many cups. Impressive stuff 😮
and here are top 9-16
chilly hemlock
Upset city
leaden belfry
Oof
Love that the scoreboard is completely open and anything can happen, but somewhat shocked to see set-favourites drop out in early stages tonight
green orchid
#tourneys-team-search @fickle sky
thorn shale
@fickle sky wrong channel
low badger
One day we could see the fuxii team rise to the top
subtle hornet
we in voice, if you want you can join🤔
fluid wigeon
How tf do I watch the live tournament?!?!
winter swallow
In-game credit betting on esports teams in Professionals Tournaments. Viable?
timber grotto
I’d be down for that
sweet flax
That would actually be cool. Get money for guessing which team will beat who
chilly hemlock
No way WG allows betting with minors
winter swallow
betting in game resources doesn't = betting
sweet flax
I mean, gambling is already here with crates
winter swallow
like silver credits / free XP. no cash. no Gold.
toxic lintel
Csgo has betway and a bunch of other betting sites. Not too sure how it works but it seems pretty successful
flat goblet
CSGO also has a relatively strong spectator scene
timber grotto
Maybe because CSGO is based on skill - not RNG and who has the biggest wallet
toxic lintel
Probably having some kind of in game reward for betting on the correct teams would increase the views by a lot cuz people would actually care to figure out what’s going on in the comp scene. The coin system last year was good but they can expand on it to make it more in depth
winter swallow
^ @chilly terrace it's a good idea and you know it ;)
buoyant jay
Hi
winter swallow
@silver vapor @wicked snow @thorn shale - when you guys get time, could you summarise teams playing in your servers this saturday? I'm struggling to keep up with who has tickets now and who hasn't :/
oak veldt
Lol asia has so few teams anywayss
silver vapor
Aye
winter swallow
I can't track 3 servers simultaneously and hold down a full tiem job lol
silver vapor
My comments about the team names, watching reign and also reign is still confusing as heck (as a viewer) 😝
winter swallow
red reign blue reign?
silver vapor
Yus the red reign and blue reign is identified by colors but you could've still called both reign 😂
The point is, if we are determined to confuse the heck out of everyone, we can and we will.
winter swallow
I do see WG's point re: clan tags though. It's a tough cast lol
timber grotto
Everyone should make their team, player and clan names a combination of capital i’s and lower case Ls
winter swallow
^ pls perma ban this sadist.
silver vapor
my original plan was to do something like that for FEAST, but sadly they weren't that keen on the plan 😢
timber grotto
I’d love to watch you try to figure out how to commentate a team with names like that @winter swallow 😂
Also a purpl team was going to that this twister but that team no longer exists
winter swallow
My logic chip would probably fail , smoke would pour out my ears and then I'd seize up. Factory reset would be required.
timber grotto
Tempted to fund every clan the gold for name changes just to see that 😂
winter swallow
timber grotto
Imagine two full teams of names like that both running all t22 mediums. How would you even commentate that?
silver vapor
do the same with player names
winter swallow
I'd switch to player view, and refer to them each as "This see you next tuesday right here, ... "
@timber grotto
low badger
lmao
native flume
Someone streamed the final? Fbi vs nav1n ? And the third place? Please.
winter swallow
nope
Would have it were possible. But alas. T'was not. If people want more streams I recommend they take up streaming. THat is literally what I did.
winter swallow
Next Ascent Saturday (tomorrow)
It is another ticketed tournament. - Ascent continues next week Monday, Tuesday (no tickets) and Thursday , Saturday (tickets) - then the final online tournaments will be held last week September (Professional and Challengers TOurnaments) on each server.
The wild card tournament between EU and RU will have dates released in due time by WG. ❤
gusty solar
Hy dear Wargaming staff.
I have a concern on my hands and i feel like a lot of people would agree with me over this.
So the issue in my opinion is that "touch only tournaments" dont really restrict people using PCs if they are playing over emulators. This was an issue in the first Twister cup and i know for a fact it still was one in last years one too. So i was concerned people were still doing so in this year and i wanted to know if you could maybe take a look into that and maybe fix this issue if you didnt get to already.
Kind regards
A concerned player from the EU-region
chilly terrace
Hello!
If you want to send complain, you can send it to support. And if your complain is proved, the player who violate the rules will get a restriction.
limber plover
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dreamy adder
@gusty solar I don't think it's emulators but rather touch screen PCs (non-convertible ones can't parameter the controls mode)
gusty solar
oh yea didnt even think about that.well either way its unfair to mobile players @dreamy adder
dreamy adder
@gusty solar having tried it I can tell you it's more difficult on PC (non-convertible ones at least) cos you can't train on it as you can't change to touch controls unless you're in a mobile tournament & the joystick seems less sensitive
cos the game isn't optimal to play with touch controls on PC
vital obsidian
is it allowed to play pc on touch tour? 🤔
gentle sierra
Unless certain emulators can bypass the sytem , dunno if its possible though
silver vapor
All devices will be given touch controls interface regardless of what device they are on when it comes to touch only tournaments.
median mason
It's impossible to bypass the system. Game will never enable pc controls in touch-only game mode
silver vapor
At least that's what I've been told, and experienced and also know 😬
dreamy adder
@vital obsidian as long as it's touch controls
thorn shale
Now the pro camos are only for the top 4? What a joke
daring dune
seems yes
gentle sierra
What ?😂
thorn shale
Now you get the blue and orange pro camos if u finish on top 4 or above, when it was top 8 and above @gentle sierra
gentle sierra
😂 😂
daring dune
well... actually are the pro camo really beautiful?..
thorn shale
Why should wg change that?
daring dune
top8 still have avatar rite tho
vital obsidian
So no twister camo for 5-8 ?
graceful jetty
90 days sksk
thorn shale
I rather get the camos than the avatar. @vital obsidian yep
daring dune
why
thorn shale
The avatar is permanent @graceful jetty
graceful jetty
Its a meme
daring dune
it shows have the ability to carry
thorn shale
Well those 2 camos for me are rlly cool, the avatar makes ppl focus u more. Ppl can see the avatar at the start of bttl, not the camo.
thorn shale
Its rlly stupid to now give the camo to top 4 and above, the teams that get is very probably that they already have those camos
vital obsidian
Where are rules?
daring dune
maybe it's a mistake?
thorn shale
Look the last new in game @vital obsidian . @daring dune it’s not I think
@thorn shale you get 10k credits for the camos each as compensation
Well i dont have them xD, but i wish i do cos i like them a lot. But yeah compensation is really ridicolous
daring dune
is this because top8 is from leaderboard? not the last year qualifications tourney?