#tourneys-discussion
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It is a small benefit yes, but the overall matchmaking won't improve by a large margin.
NA’s playerbase is not big enough to have that much of a significance, but if u look at ru that would really make a huge difference @flat goblet
NA's smaller playerbase could benefit 'more,' RU teams have a higher chance to match with a similar skill level team simply because more similar skill level teams exist. But either way, an improvement to matchmaking in tournaments would greatly benefit the scene imo.
I just want the comp scene to be more competitive 😛 and the most significant format other games use is a tier system
T1 face T1s T2 face T2s, u win ur tier and advance to the next tier level and participate in higher competition
Yes, a tier system would be ideal, the issue is getting to a solid tier system
And since at the scale of teams is too small and inconsistent, the clan level is much better hue
I mean if we use a system of point accumulation, we can like set the better tiers of competition more % of points than the tier below, idk. And the bottom of like for example bottom teams from tier 1 gains less points than top of tier 2
And then reset points per season so one clan domination of a server doesn’t happen unless they actually have skill to defend their spot
If you do it by clan, I could definitely see a clan taking in a weaker team to "sandbag" the clan's overall rating.
We can make sure they get no benefit from sandbagging? Idk
The time of one team per clan has come 😏
Create comp clan strctures. Max 15 players. The clan gets a tournament ELO based on performance.
The issue as pointed out is that in Blitz, your individual skill and value is almost meaningless compared to the group synergy and your factoring into that.
ELO works on LoL because it is a formulaic game and everyone knows what tondo as part of every team more or less than enoigh to be effective. In Blitz that simply doesn't hold.
So individual ELO earned as part of one clan or even team is utterly useless in a different clan or team.
They could do a system like ratings
With points and match based off those
Aka ELO.
XD - but in Blitz the issue is wha does that ELO match to? Player? Clan? Team? Because those elemwnts interact but are transient.
Rankings works for individuals because it is all about individuals.
The only way ELO works in blitz is if a team has a fixed roster for a whole season of esports. The current scene is far more dynamic and fluid than that.
There would have to be like set teams but they could give players the ability to be in more than one team, so if you go with a different group it would start at 0, but that would be a really messy system with a bunch of teams that only run once and never again
And the “best players” could still mix and match
ELO drops by a small amount every tournament day the team doesn't compete.
That would encourage staying together or whatever
I think ELO can be made individually and then averaged for a team
Or that^
While I agree that synergy is paramount to blitz team success, I don’t think individual skill should be discounted for the overall strength of a team
I have to get food now so I will be back in a bit
But the ELO needs to be libked to tournament not pub matches which is tricky. How do you score ELO in Blitz for individuals in cw? The 0 dmg maus could have had the best game technically
We’d need detailed tournament stats for that
But that would definitely be the way to go for tourney team ranking
It would honestly be a very complicated metric, but given some data sets it would be a fun problem to work out
Hmmm but it's not always the case that the end result data reflects the performance of the player
What do you mean? Data collected through the battle paints a pretty good picture of player performance. Unless you were told to do something questionable by your caller, then yes, you are absolutely correct. Hmm.
I mean for example if you are used as bait in a battle, that usually doesn't let you have high statistics at the end of the battle, but you still did your job and it is because of your sacrifice that others could perform better
Sure, but that’s why ELO is an average of all your performances. Hopefully you aren’t being used as bait every battle...
I m too lazy to check
When is the grand finale Eros/r2k vs RAID? Tomorrow or another day ?
@median mantle tommorow
I’m used as bait every battle
Bad team I have
i mean you are the perfect fit for a bait, so juicy @green plover
😂
@sharp token no
yes brotha @green plover look at my dog isn't he fantastic brotha
@sharp token op u still do tournies?
hahahah with who ? I am a free birb i play my e50
what about you brotha I see you are in the top 4 for proff tourny on NA, that's pretty gud @green plover
@sharp token thanks brother i try
I like the new name also RGN almost like LGN but with an R very nice
@flat goblet you say WG doesnt cater to tourneys yet they completely changed their balancing approach and massively nerfed tier ten meds after tourneys. The reason the batchat isn't very good in pub matches is because if it was buffed it could ruin tourney balance.
I did not say WG doesn’t cater to tourneys, I said WG does not cater to top players.
After hearing what @chilly terrace said, I genuinely do not think simply increasing rewards (at a reasonable level) will improve tournament player activity.
As a player on Chaos, (NA) I find it to be hard where my multiple hours of tournament play cannot make up the credits I’ve lost playing professionals. Or the lack of rewards in the gold tournaments as a whole. It’s frustrating and it feels so unrewarding for me.
I’m genuinely happy to hear your perspective though, even though it’s vastly different from mine. I do play offseason tournaments, I play around 450 public matches per month (ratings are included), as well as the fact I train with my clan members inside practices we regularly host. I know many major tournament players have a diverse set of crew skills, premiums and other benefits of being at that level. Myself included.
I know many players do tournaments only, but I also know players like me who do nearly every game mode type exist. I feel that a way to incentivize tournament play is to continue what you’re doing with pubs, increasing mission rewards, and getting engaged with the game as a whole.
Additionally, another method of doing that is to incentivize top players to teach and help mid and low tier clans in comp, I don’t want to immediately go into direct financial rewards, but maybe gold and credits for helping out our members of the community. People like rollingswarm do help out a lot, but a lot of clans (including my FUXII clan) needs serious help and direction. I’m not sure if the players or Wargaming is able to support such a proposition, but I think this is one method I haven’t heard from many in a very long time.
(Also I know when I read the post it looks like I’m rambling on about something) just know that I want my situation as a “pro player to improve” but I understand the reluctance to subsidize tournament class and tournament only players. As a result, I think it’s important to find more alternatives- especially for the tournament class players with countless hours of experience. Also I’m watching The helpful fox Senko San which is a amazing anime so I do recommend
Is rikka in it
Gg to TN_MN
^
I actually had fun watching them
They executed their strats perfectly, and the strats were well thought out, it seems
Perfectly deserved 5-0 win
is that an asia team ? @winter swallow and also you gonna be streaming grandfinals of EU right > ?
Yea its asia's winner
@thorn shale sadly rikka takarada is only in a anime called SSSS Gridman
Also TN_MN really popped off I saw as well, that was actually really fun to watch
@sharp token EU and NA
nice will make sure to watch
GG TNMN
50 minutes or so before R2K vs EROS then the winner of that match vs RA1D!
How much between games?
1 hour and 10 minutes. First matchup starts at 8pm CEST, the second at 9.10 CEST
When are the games
EU are right now
How can i watch?
@remote bone watch what?
The tournament
it is on youtube
K
eros 200 iq les go
Still wondering why R-2-K took 3 AMX 50B's
2 is the perfect balance imo
3 is Overkill
3 guarantees you take out any tank you rush
Yet in the last game they didn't do it 🤔
Problem is not 3 50b, problem is using it 3 times in a row
Yea they used it before as well
Problems with streaming a team is their strats get revealed
I guessZird thought it could work + didn’t want to reveal another strat which could be used against Raid
Doubt he was saving up strats, he was down on rounds won u kno
Anyhow, thx both teams for some good games
Well 3 guarantees the tank dead you rush but that last game tho 👀
eros played better, stupidly enough we saved a boosting strat on alpenstadt south though and made a push instead
Jj
you don't save strats when you're down enough rounds that whether or not you even get to use them at all against your intended opponent is in question
well we were up 2:1 at that point, but still a bad decision from us
double triple 50b strats
What’s the NA bracket looking like right now?
Last I saw, it could possibly be RGN vs RGN
Isn’t chaos also RGN
Correct
Has there ever been 2 teams from the same clan in the finals before?
The championship match or whatever you want to call it
Pramo vs pincer was spring and fall last year
Pramo vs purpl 2017 twister season
Purpl is a part of pramo so yes
Ah
Mobile masters 2017 was pramo purpl pramo void
So we technically sweep the podium
Rgn kind of stole it this year from how it looks, given, it is mostly people from those clans
@winged saffron we had Eros vs Eros on eu on challenge the stars finals and lgn vs lgn on twister 2018semi finals
Rgn consists of the top two teams from last year’s twister. One from pramo and one from pincer. Not anything surprising
Owo sassy
Your* @idle basalt
@chilly hemlock excuse me but I’m a DFNT boi
You weren’t last fall 🤔
When does the NA stream start ?
English
@chilly terrace @frosty nexus are professionals players allowed to participate in ascent now?
I am guessing no
Congrats Void <3
You played extremely well and got me hyped while watching it
❤ ty pixel
I would like to see replay of that 268 shot on 140.
All games where super close especially the last one. Ggs
RGN vs Void in the finals?
yes
bigger shot than it looked like, dam
hax reveal
Hey korahkorah
.-.
for real most clutch shot ive ever hit
I bounced heat off of you for the fat F
Dam that’s hot. For being confident on that shot it’s something else. U must feel the 268 not just drive it
Korahs 90% bot it was really tantan who told him when to shoot
The ping between u 2 is insane
There’s a serious issue with the ascent tournaments this season;
We can’t contribute more than one ticket towards the team registration. This has been causing serious issues for my clan. We have a large pool of willing players, but because of the extremely limiting and frankly stupid ticketing system. We’re barely able to make a full team if one or two of our players can’t show up, people have lives wargaming, please revert the system to what it was so people without tickets can play. It’s already clan limited. Which is a good thing. Why limit it to one ticket per person and decrease the amount of teams signing up for tournaments. Which mind you is already a very measly number in Asia. If it ain’t broke. Don’t fix it. Bring back the old system.
I’m not sure if I’m allowed to Tag the developers. So I’ll refrain from that, but I hope this is read and doesn’t get lost in the sea of messages. Thanks.
When we will be able to bet what team will be win on tournament for gold?
@flat goblet I was a one shot for most of that game. I was very lucky to stay alive lol
@alpine adder the matter was discussed earlier here
Guess it is too late to change things for this ascent tour but hope next time we see changes in ticket system
@alpine adder the logic behind I guess was to establish some tiebreaking, by making the best teams matching up in a more selective tournament (the Saturday one).
And honestly I rly prefer this method, rather than the ascent ran during twister season that was absolutely boring and best teams wining each tournament. Resulting in 15 tied teams in the 8 first positions at the end.
In EU there is already no more tied team in the 8 first spot.
That’s not my point. My point is the fact that people have lives and can get busy. If someone is busy. Means the entire team has to sit out. That’s called “stupid” in the book of common sense. Second, I understand that things might be different over in EU or NA. But the tournament scene in Asia is mostly dead. Even under normal circumstances there aren’t enough teams for a full tournament with groups meant for 8 teams often consisting of 4-5. There’s a huge gap between the good teams and the bad teams with nothin in the middle. And there’s plenty of reasons for that, but currently, this is not helping anything at all. Not the teams which have players with a tight schedule. Not the players who’ve been sitting out for over a month just because they don’t have tickets. And especially not the already dwindling amount of teams over in Asia.
@forest matrix the best teams are supposed to win. That’s why they’re the best, the bronze/silver/gold system was introduced to try to give a place to fight for lower teams. But in Asia that failed miserably with silver and gold tournaments having no more than 2-3 or sometimes no teams.
Ok got your point. Just wanted to share with u what is the point of this ticket selection according to me. This have drawbacks maybe more in Asia than EU (even if the point of « having a life » is shared throughout the world).
Bronze tournament gives a platform for teams of different average win rate to compete but silver and gold tournaments draw groups of teams with similar average win rate though (for the previous off season).
@forest matrix what do you mean with "no more tied team in the 8 first spot"?
Well @vital obsidian I mean this 8 teams for 8 spot
you mean they wont change anymore?
No... I mean nobody is tied
there is 4 more rounds i think so there is limited room for changes unless some of these teams stops or do super bad
In twister season there were 15 teams on this same page after all rounds. Even more at this intermediate stage
yes agree that was not good
this tour maybe we end up having 1-2 more on same points but thats all
h1z1 esa can make it to top 8 too
True. H1z1s single strat with heavies x7 + yolo rush is impressive @glass thunder
Are the players of the professionals tournament allowed to participate in echelon tournaments now?
no - I think they (Professional Players) are banned from Ascent and Echelons all the way
Clans also i think
Clans r allowed, the players that took part in professional from that clan r the ones that r not allowed
read it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Okay
Just a bit strange since only one team per clan allowed in echelon finals but nvm
-IVI- and Teshr will fall
@pallid raven i dont think so
Teshr playing well i think
Maybe ivi fall , but idk how they play
I do not want to guess😅
So the professionals players can do quick tournaments just no echelon or ascent tournaments
Ofc
@thorn shale my clan has already run into RGN, PRAMO, etc in quick tournaments....kinda makes our tours very short lolz
we ran into your team once in a tier 8 tournament
I'll just leave it as your team didn't fare really well even with the good fight
welp we try... @candid cobalt
you did well tho
thx 😊
👌
since quick tourneys aren’t included in that screenshot posted above, i assume we’re allowed to play those?
Hope so would need some creds since there was not very much creds given from the tourney
^^^^
Quick tourneys are so time inefficient for credits though, particularly on NA
Are you sure they weren't allowed to compete in Echelon while also in Professionals, it says there will be punishment within the team during the Professionals but it's over now. I could be wrong but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i understand your point, but if my team was in the money, i wouldn’t risk losing that at all
tru, it sucks we cant do other tourneys tho 😦
i just wish for increase in rewards on tournaments.There was this one point where it was perfect and actually worth putting 2h+ into it.
whats even the point of the pro/echelon ban?
Hmmm interested in that too I guess one part being to make competition without top teams
<- is ded from streaming.
A bit strange system where spring top teams are decided before the lower league finals, usually its other way around 🤔 mby next time
???
Pro final - the supreme highlight should be at end of season, not in mid
Pro teams are useless the rest of season cause they not allowed to play in other tour
qt
Lol
I remember reading salty comments about those by the pros 🤣
@low badger no, you must not participate in the Ascent Tournaments and Echelon tournaments too.
Got it thank you
What about on reroll accounts?
@chilly terrace will these banners have the logos of the clans who finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in Spring Season?
yes 😁
@thorn shale yes
Ah ok. For my clan we do not have a custom logo in game. Will be able to send that logo to you guys so you can implement in game? @frosty nexus
@thorn shale line up behind my clan please
Custom logos for all!
@silver vapor no offense, but you guys didn’t finish high enough to potentially have your logo in game
is making into the offlines not good enough? @thorn shale ¯_(ツ)_/¯
top3 banners gonna look so awesome in asia server
we made top 1 and top 2 in Asia last year in the two major tournaments - how is that not good enough for our logo in game? @thorn shale
I’m just talking about Spring Season bro
last year spring season my clan also finished in top 2
That’s something for you to discuss with WG
Teams and skill level of each server will change lol
it's really messed up that the fact that achievements of Asia clans isn't properly recognized at all
I'll just be straightforward - if we don't get to get our custom clan logo into the game - no clans should be able to get their clan logo into the game before us.
Well that’s for WG to decide
Exactly, lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just dislike people disrespecting our achievements
let it be this season or previous seasons
No one is disrespecting anything mate
Call me entitled but I think chaos and the main reign team need different logos lmao
Can we use the current chaos logo
Chaos Team is currently working hard to create our own custom logo that we deserve for going 3rd.We appreciate if you give us the ability to place under the wonderful banners on the garage in order for us to represent who we are as a team and individually.
they never did that before when multiple teams of the same clan placed top 3. don’t know why WG should have to put 2 new logos for you guys when they’ve never done it before.
Well then its time for a change.That is in the past and this is about the future.
Chaos logo is nut worthy tbh
@thorn shale no you haven't seen the completed version.Its e🅱ic
Lemme SSEEEEE
Its under work,i dont have my laptop rn in class so i cant edit currently sadly
Op chaos logo is currently under construction
@thorn shaleclose but its even better
@thorn shale in theory, yes.
well on the flip side chaos is still representing the RGN clan so it seems the clan logo would be the one to appear....having a sep logo is like having 2 sep clans....not trying to disrespect nor diminish the great effort of both teams....
God help EU with ER0S logo @frigid aurora
Chaos could form own clan to get own logo featured. Or just double RGN logo
Lol
Owo double
Weren’t there two PRAMO banners
Yeah there were two pramo and two pncr banners in previous seasons where those clans had two top three teams
So it is possible to double up on banners in the garage
some of these clans are made up of really great players....so is it fair to other clans to permit multiple teams within a clan to participate in the higher level tournaments? maybe WG has made a statement abt this and I missed it.
I feel like double banners kinda makes the top meta of the server feel exclusive and sad to a degree
those were banners that just changed the color of the background.. that’s completely different from having to incorporate 2 different logos for teams in the same clan
Controversial - but how do people feel about one team per clan in high level comps like Pros and Twister?
kinda tough since clans usually aim to have 2 teams or more to have training partners, and i doubt people would want to be dedicated training partners
Then PRAMO’s second, third and fourth teams will just go to VSOP, ARISE and TSUKI :^)
ARISE was OP :v
It would force diversification of the clan scene
It’ll diversify about as much as a reroll diversifies a player
^
only the best of the best in a clan would become the tournament team, it would encourage competition within the clan
there’s always competition within clans lol
Or just send the other team under a second clan tag lmao
I don’t feel like it would make a difference. It would just be like puppet states of clans
ok more competition then...
Yeah all it would do is end up making bigger clans have a sister clan so they can have 2 teams
and that solves the prob of multiple logos
It would solve the issue of having two rgn pramo or pncr banners, but everyone would still see where the loyalties lie
Most clans are clan families anyway. Pramo-purpl-floop. Void and V2. PNCR BNCR and whatever they had/renamed/etc. SRT literally has 2 main clans and a recruitment clan. STORM, ST2RM, ST3RM.
Ryze was cool ok
I was just referring to the pro and twister cup tourns really
The quick tournaments tonight are not ascent or echelon tournaments, right?
I believe you cam do quick tournaments
Ah I c
Do Tier 6 7 tog strats with us
now that would b fun to see I hope someone makes a vid of it 😆
@thorn shale not as fun as when we did all t49 back then
Omi
Hello
@winter swallow that wouldn’t work. Each team would create their own clan under one clan family umbrella
Pramo and purpl for example
@chilly hemlock @chilly hemlock
@thorn shale @thorn shale
@thorn shale @chilly hemlock
سلام
@thorn shale English only
Hi
Professional tourney gold not enough to buy 1 tier 10 attachment, even for first place. Now that's epic. I suppose the real prize is the cash though.
@flat goblet nah the only real prize for the Pro Tourney is the offline that follows
what offline
hi
Hey
@thorn shale its finished ;)
Oyes
Know one in joining my team in turna ment 🤦 😫 😫 😫 😫 😫
LOL I literally just noticed @idle basalt its beautiful
What
😏
Men pls sub to my chanel in yutob
Not the right place
Hey guys
Will be streaming EU Ascent tomorrow night
nice
Oooooo
following -WW- team Raate
Ceilings
Oof
@winter swallow yeah - please stream h1z1 - they can still make it top 8 - no point in streaming top teams who will make it top 8 even if they didn't participate. Boring and no stakes
Good morning guys
@kindred swift ww is nowhere close to top 8 and h1z1 have low chances because look from 9 to 15 all are like 20 trophies diference
Hello
@green sierra but ww are sponsors of his channel
And it would be better anyway to stream one of the top 4 as they are likely to play all 3 rounds
Hey guys participate in assent tournament?
@green sierra I want to see WW play more than any clan on the EU server
oof read, I just answeared to that guy who said to stream h1z1 and what he said that WW is top team that will be in top8
Rolling decided to stream them cuz he wants to see them playing ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's up to him who he wants s to stream
-WW- are friends and supporters of the channel. Will be streaming their games. As is I am covering the Top Echelon Championship for both NA and EU.
So we will see the top 8 in action anyways. Just later in the month 🥳
WW numbah 1 let's go
EZ4WW
@vital obsidian sadly not- if we touch ascent we die
Okay, a bit extreme but you get the gist, we can’t play anything besides QT until ascent/echelon season ends
Says who ? And how is it checked?
Says wg and if you won money why even take the chance...
It's been told by wg on this channel that we cannot participate in ascent/echelon tourneys and it has also been told in in-game-news
@thorn shale I can’t risk my PrO avAtAr
BrUh
I don’t get it
Den there are two teams with players from Prof tour 🙃
Only in Asia
they are "professional" players / teams playing in ascent
@mental yarrow @silver vapor those pics are pro teams from 2019 on Asia?
Yes
Uh oh
Lol
NUB is pro team, LSA and OJ have professional players not the team
Pro players to be exact
Ooooof- that’s a yikes from me doggie
Players are free to play if not in pro team?
@vital obsidian if you didn’t play in professionals top 8, you’re good
@vital obsidian NUB is basically full pro team
Report it to wg
NUB have like 2 players that weren't in professionals
I’m sorry but that looks more stacked than the current ascent leader on NA- based on wr alone
The professional players
Create a ticket in playersupport and ask is there any penalties if they play ascents
@chilly terrace @frosty nexus a little tagging to let you guys know
they aint pros playing ascent tours but still look at name of team
And what
Maybe they respect people from nigeria
Maybe it’s a cool secret name
Top echelon is touch only?
Yeah, maybe they're really interested in Igbo culture
Mixed
Thot so, thx for confirmation
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does that have something to do with tournaments?
No
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@dry flint
@remote python hi
:)
create tickets to ask what's going on
did it already, hope they are gonna be punished for this
@pastel tartan are you send this to someone from wg?
i send a ticket, dont think any of the wg guys here would tell me something diffrent then to make a ticket
Nah, if you pm anyone from the staff responsible for tournaments they will take actions
can you tell me who of those here is it? since i dont know that sadly @median mason
Oh ascent tourny, what are the main teams from EU ?
cant find any of those tho when searching with the tag, should i just tag em here then? @median mason
Knopka#5794 RexyComandante#0592
tried already, cant find it
Not sure about the Rexy though cuz he doesn't have Wg staff role, lol
I would recommend Rexy / Artyom, he gets stuff done
okay got it now, messaged knopka
@pastel tartan if you prefer, you can use official forums. Rexy checks his inbox regularly
im not that familiar with the forum, nothing i ever really used
hmm
@karmic marsh english please
hope they gonna do smt against it
I'm wondering what they will do 🤔
rip SOULS
is immortal pro team?
why rip? @spice geode
because technically ur not allowed to even play with ur pro team now @dreamy ridge
really? XD unfortunately we can 😦
yea...
its said in the rules that Pro Tournament Players arent allowed to join Echeolon and Ascent Tour
And this:
@dry flint
@humble summit what?
(:
I am confused, why would you tag me here? 🤣
💦
hi
what happens with the cups when 2 teams of 1 clan are playing? @median mason do u know that
nothing, they stay in clan @pastel tartan
so only cups from 1 team are counted?
@pastel tartan the highest score counts
we just beat that souls pro team 2:0 btw xD
yey you are op @pastel tartan
xd
🍴 7
basically the more teams you have the higher your chances of getting max points
😄
gneis hype xd
Wait, someone has deleted a message 🤔
hmmm
you're OP Peter, congrats
@pastel tartan just noticed this xD
No the team is OP, I'm a big noob (I might have admitted I could play the B-C, but I still can't)
lol xD didnt see that, but thanks @median mason now i know
:D
@dreamy ridge klan może, squad który brał udział w prof nie może, support wg nie interesuje i nie zajmuje się turniejami , więc jeżeli odwołacie się na to to nic to nie da bo support odpowiedział w kwestii klanu , nie składu.
Sorry for message in polish , it's easier for me to write in Polish than in English
Ale support pisal ze sklad a nie klan.. @calm atlas
😭
English > all other languages. Change my mind.
🇵🇱
😏
Ez
all this happening in the English language or Internet variants of it.
You are playing right into my hands. And if you try use another language here? You get into troubles.... mwuahahahahahaa
I bet rolling had planned this
wow my name is really toxic
Selam
@pastel tartan we will discuss the situation with SOULS players. Participation of teams from Professional tournament in Ascent tournaments and Echelon Championships is forbidden.
Rule no.1 - Read the Rules. Rule no.2 - Don't read the Comments.
But the 2nd rule doesn't apply to youtubers! @winter swallow
I onyl read the comments because (luckily so far) the community is nice to me and I don't get flamed mid stream lol
❤ rolling best commentator
❤ like so
@frosty nexus can you also check with Asian teams? There are also a few teams that violated this rule on Asia
@silver vapor already done
👀
🤔
We directly discussed the situation with teams
discussed :c
U dont like discussing? @median mason
it means no punishment
What did u expect?
Cookie!
A Tournament ban for bigger tournaments or what?
@median mason why did u leave R2K?
@heady mortar points reduction
He’s still in R2K, just playing ascents for EXEGI
Oh ok
@median mason Well, maybe it happens.. lets hope :D
@heady mortar GNEIS are some cups away from top echelon we’re 1st middle
I saw it in the Stream @molten laurel
Yes of course you did 😂
🙂
Clans that were beated yesterday by pro team should get point compensation @frosty nexus
UN lost their possibilities yesterday in unfair competition
I guess you can take the average score of the clans who lost, exclude yesterday’s tournament. And add the average to make up for wends results
@vital obsidian yeah I hear my friend UNEXPECTED from UN say it was impossible in the first round against SOULS pro team
Did they even get tickets for saturday? If not they risk lose a lot of points if they cannot play @molten laurel
I’m not sure
Why do points matter again?
you have a place in mid echelon
Ah ic
Yes we’re top of middle and not far away from top
and clan rating, there are very small differenves in points
Mhm that’s fair
if they total out of saturday cause of this it is just meh
You get crates for finishing high in the echelon right?
yes there are rewards
Last year I think people got medals so that was cool
They do get a ticket
At the very least the violating team needs their Saturday tickets revoked.
Noob jack
No point with rules if pro teams can continue play
I agree, if there are totally no penalties, I would slap my pro main team into Ascent tournaments as well
True
Here’s the way I think about this, if players shouldn’t be playing assent why not make so that they physically can’t join that tourney, you know kind of like when you are in a team playing a tourney and a different team invites you but you get that error saying they are already participating. Of course this solution takes more time and programming on wg’s behalf but tbh you can’t trust players most of the time. There’s always gonna be some people who aren’t bright enough to know how to follow the rules
But let's face it. We should require more from "Pro" players :D
And the rule was displayed on the main page of the tournament
To be fair I think a better thing to do is to probably have more areas and methods to warn players with clear punishments for doing stuff like this.
Things like programming based work the best, but knowing Wargaming, that option for editing and adding onto their tournament programming seems to be way above their own capabilities
Dear lord I should probably delete it
xd way ahead of u
😂😂
Wtf xD
Hmmm as i recall last year players were just locked in the prof tourny because it was ongoing so you wouldn't be able to participate in anything else
Yeah but there was no ascent last year
@median mason You have a lot to say about pro players for someone for whom the biggest esport achievement was to provide towels in r2k. We have everything under control and you can dream about disqualifying us
oof
a 1vs1 and it is solved 🤣
@jaunty talon at least I am able to read the rules
@jaunty talon a third place in twister 2018 as a team member is obviously better than finishing what? 6th? 7th? In the professional tournament.
Speaking of achievements.
We have ss in which WG allowed us to play. The rules changed day before the touch team played this tournament.
For someone who is almost a developer, you have little information.
@jaunty talon how do you make excuses - the rule was there since Professional tournament is up
Day before? O.o
there are teams that got warned because of this rule on Asia server - before Professional tournament even began, so that excuse is just not gonna work, I afraid
That player has a lot to our clan for a long time. Before the top 8 he called us that we will be the second RES and we will fall apart.
Typical behaviors in the Polish community
Yes, sorry. I was partially right only
Well, he wasn’t far off was he? Pretty close to the bottom. Now, Mr Achievement since you’ve obviously won some major tournament that Mroz didn’t win you know what’s up.
mayby we'll finish here?
>yeah sure, when the excuse doesn't work, close the topic
let WG decide, despite all the roules written
the rules are decided, and were written out loud and clear within the regulations of Professional tournaments before the Professionals even began.
@jaunty talon more is4 pls in tourneys
hahahahaha
so warning for breaking the rules even tho it had been announced here and in game that players particicaping in professional's tournament are not allowed to play ascent/echelon tournaments
fight fight fight 🍿
@sharp token cute dogge
thanks, cute catto @median mason
Aw, thx also :D
you both cute
🍿
:0
This is the drama llama I like because it isn’t mine. 🎭 🦙
i want popcorns too..
FYI - the rules are very clearly written in multiple languages. It is our responsibility as players to read and abide by those rules. I have no sympathy for people who do not make the effort to read the rules, or at the very least, have a literate adult read the rules to them.
Pog
MonkaS
no u
You can search for an ,,adult - educated" person that will read the rules to you
I have no idea at all what does that mean, and that totally does not mean you can violate the rules as described to the closest and official source - forums or ingame
if you have no idea about it, then why are you talking about it?
Besides, the official WG statement is, that in the description of the tournament was a mistake, that was corrected after a while
However, I see that there are many people with big mouths here, that DON'T KNOW the current situation and are playing with being developers
I mean, I don't know what that screenshot is talking about - it's not English
your problem 😗
oh? so now it's my problem for not understand information in your language in an English server? 👏
use google translate
No
No
No
No
yes
Yes
Did you just say n word
Lol
Ban all people with "Pan" in their name ez
@silver vapor So you prefer to write on the principle: "I do not know , but I will write it"?
Lmao
Lmao the rules have not been changed
The heck are you on about
What's the point of continuing it xD
What was the point of starting this?
@fathom tiger they aren't listening, I guess they just doesn't like the truth ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just stop maybe, if they broke the rules then they will be punished and if not then they wont why make drama of this
We toxic idiots that want to make drama out of everything¯_(ツ)_/¯
Atleast i am one
:(
hm
we only want to clarify the matter that has already been settled, we just want to stop denigrating us on the forum.
players who doesn't respect rules should be punished, not hanging around trying to push responsibilities onto others and deny their own fault
clarifying as in "it's not our fault WG changed it"?
@silver vapor Translate screen shoot Sir. developer
No u
this is English Server, I read English content only
which the content I obtained was the rule about not allowing to join ascent was there since the appearance of Professional tournament item in the tournament tab
Players who want to impose their will on developers in a matter that does not concern them should also get banned.
After you sir
nice try
Their will? Reporting obvious rule violation isn't imposing anyone's will...
Rules was there since start of professionals - Fact
Rules were never changed - Fact
There are teams that violated this rule - Fact
I don't see how there is any wills being imposed or bending of rules or even any possible thing that you can get away with
Okay, go ahead and report
🙃
Still facts - the rule was violated
Lol it still doesnt say rules were changed
I'm quite certain that the rules were correct in the game client
The kokonut nut is a giant nut
Owo kokonut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat.
No worries im heavy enough already
🌰
I mean global emotes cannot be used here
oh yea - true that, too bad
):
Pepe as clanlogo
dream come true (with gif in it)
Let's hope mods won't come
Rabbid as clan logo
i believe until next weekend
Ascents end on 11th
yep - then Echelons
Echelon takes place 24-26 I believe
^^
*believe 🕵
Opsy
your cat stepped on the keyboard? sweet btw
I believe
I have no idea why I typed it that way xD
Who can help me with a problem with my clan in the tournament yesterday?
Any mod or members of WG?
Whats the problem? @vivid orbit
If it the screenshot about rexy's message the message is not fake
@fathom tiger I know that but I sent you a message asking about a question about that but I did not answer
@jaunty talon I have to agree with @silver vapor - you violated rules. Whether written correctly or not, you still went against what was written. In my books, it's just bad sportsmanship to contest this?
But, obviously - WG's decision is final. Doesn't mean I think positively of a professionals team acting in this manner.
Whats WG decision regarding Souls playing Ascent?
No
?
You heard him, no @median mantle lmao
No decision, no punishment, no cake for me, nohomo. I will never no 😹😹
Well if ez got a punishment, souls should get one
Yes ban them
😂
Yeah
I don’t know what the hell happened to my account but it’s been crazy over on my account
I agree with @hazy plank whatever he says
i agree with you no matter what you say
I agree
I disagree with Fox whatever he says
@winter swallowWe broke the rules just because our neglect and the ,,ticket" from WG developer that mislead us. That means, that the ,,Touch Souls" team, won't participate in tomorrow's Ascent and in the next one as well
That's good to hear. Still, it's a shame for the teams you beat if they don't get compensated - some may miss out on participation in the Top Echelon Championship because of your neglect.
Nice to see all the other EU teams and all the NA teams read the rules properly though.
Hard for us, because we played in Ascent Tournament against the Top Team from SOULS and we've lost...
Yep and thats in the Clan top list...because we didnt get an easier enemy...
All points in Ascent tournaments for us was won by the "PC BOTS" team.
What to take away the chances of the Top Echelon by the team "BAD TOUCH" is the -UN- clan is in the middle of the Middle Echelon table and 90% will be classified there (there have been 3 Ascent tournaments)
And the CAC_P clan is far behind the Lower Echelon.
If someone still does not understand where the error occurred in our clan, I really recommend to translate the ticket, which ss threw above.
@fleet kestrel try send ticket to wg
You should get the points
Yes. If WG has the opportunity to refund points then write to eliminate the damage resulting from our error.
@jaunty talonwe have won vs "PC Bots"
Dont play the Pro tournament if you wanna play ascend...
The points counts for rewards they important
UN should get rewards from wednesday
@thorn shale Yes, I know, I congratulate (I'm the captain of this team and I remember). Then only the team participated in Ascents because TOUCH played in Professional.
Recently, however, our team has been very strengthened, and we have always scored points. See in the Hall of Fame
It would be fair.
You realise an extra team messes up the whole tournament groups
Pigula szkoda na nich czasu
english
can u fix your servers pls , teleporting tanks during tourneys
Jesus freaking christ fix your freakin servers
@lime glen fix your servers. This is 2nd tournament that I am playing in a row that has packetloss issue ON YOUR END. Because the packetloss is on everyone.
If the issue continues would you at least inform the players?!
yea - wanted to ask about that, LAGS in all of the battles no matter what device was I playing on
laaags
+1
nice lags
hey zird
more of these pls best timing for lags - always when tourneys happen
On randoms similar stuff happening actually
@topaz charm Its my 3th tournament with lags, its normal that wargaming cant fix this...
Not as bad as in qt but still
37000 players online and rip servers
With those lags it's unplayable
Nice serv
Tournaments unplayable atm. Randoms worked normally for me
cmon fix that soon please
No they don't
I have some delay after shooting on randoms
We will see tomorrow... During Ascent tournament haha
We're playing randoms and it's the same
play wot pc
LOL
Wargaming you have "nice" servers today (:
[*] servers
toxic gennerral
10/10 servers
what toxic?
11/10
lets teleport some more xD
Lul
Would recommend
XD
i am flying ❤ my dreams come true 🕺
Well teleporting tanks are a deliberate feature in the game I suppose?
hue 🍿 all this suffering and I am just here enjoying it
ok couz
@sharp token thats quite evil
indeed
fix your server
you like mad games? you get them
so stop complaining
I quit this game now. Thx wg. I don't like to play with a flying e3
@topaz charm no pls dont
We can't play only lag
lmao i love this 🍿
@elfin anvil toxic mo
play wot pc
you want pyramids, we got em!
@topaz charm
Quitting? See you next week.
WG congrats on the most garbage tournament so far, mayor plroblems with the server. It was unplayable, what the frick happened..?
Not being able to hit a tank 30m away is so fun
so hilarious -_-
Same problem here
that bat has advanced driving technique
beautiful
In todays tournaments me, my team and our opponents experienced weird laggy stuff. Our ping was normal but everyone was flying, in the ground or teleporting. It was awful.
server issue
Better be fixed by tomorrow
Savage
i loved the lag today xD
was quite a lot of fun against Eros when the tank was there but at the same time not
yo
Here's one from yesterday
Next level Waltz
Xd
that awsome ping
@vital mauve Bing was under 60 the whole time. There was something wrong in the WG's server's because all teams suffered from it throughout the whole Tournament yesterday.
again lags XD
We didn't face any issues yet
we did just now
Ok, it's lagging indeed xD
We did as well
But it wasn't as bad as yesterday
Yesterday's lags were just👌
its literally wgs servers lagging not us, all 9 of us were lagging
Platoon 70%+? Tier 10
cant toon in tourneys
you can with 7 players
XD
@chilly terrace to receive the actual cash prize for the Professionals Tournament, each member of the team must fill out the form and send it back to WG or is it just the captain who fills out the form?
Do we get anything for the individuals cup we collect during the season besides the clan prize?
just the captain @thorn shale
oh okay, thx
Sup
Hi
Hi
its possible i change my email?
@untold gorge not this channel
srry
i need team
someone invite me to clan my nickname is ---> jeruhe thank you
i want to go out taurnaments
this week is the last week iirc
Yes but is last game wednesday or saturday?
😬
Hello
👌 👌
It's lagging again :D
Yea
Nice lags 👌
Good servers
I love tournaments in blitz ❤
Potato servers :)
I guess you're rather spending that money earned with overpriced premium tanks for vodka and stuff llike that 😉
Why do you stop your servers connecting to the tournament? @vague swallow
@chilly terrace
???
Hamsters do not make it?
Maybe just such a hindrance?
Really, we do not support the game.
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I just wonder why Tournaments doesn't have dedicated servers...
Why give money to HaHa
because that would require an extra server
True, this tournament was outrageous...
Hay @lavish oasis
Hello
Anyone want another member for a team?
Hi
the na server lag is actually more consistent than my consistent inconsistency in game
So is it a good time to join a tourney in asian server now?
No, on the EU server it lags far too hard
Will tour lag be fixed till tomorrow otherwise it will be a ”mad” tour
No don't play tourneys u can't do anything just too much lag. WG gotta get there act together and do something
Literally I feel like they do nothing they go around trying to make new consumables that r op btw instead of fixing the main issues sever lag tourneys etc
@burnt ingot you are literally talking abt 2 sep things....developing new capabilities such as creating new consumables is a software development type task by ppl who write code and the server issues/lag is an IT type task...2 diff things with 2 diff areas of expertise. it’s not like WG has only 1 person doing all this work. duh
Idk for sure. But I believe some companies buy/rent server space and quality then depends on how much they are willing to pay. Idk if WGing is like this
@atomic tartan I can see how Wargaming would rent servers, since it's no joke when it comes talking about the maintenance side of things
but at the same thing, they could have their own servers - we have no way of telling, but that would be the logical explanation to why their server has been acting up recently
@foggy torrent hes trying to say how WG devotes time and effort on things like avatars and consumables rather than try to fix an issue that's obviously effecting everyone who plays the game
@thorn shale yeah I get that and I’m saying that there are many things going on at once. I’m sure the performance issues related to the server lag are unexpected but the other things, even though felt as less important, are a planned thing.
So wg planning to add avatars and consumable takes priority over flying tanks and 500 ping spikes in tournaments
how much do you think Wargaming has control over the connection path between you and the server?
@thorn shale no I’m saying that there are many things going on at the same time. I don’t know how big of a team WG has but I bet they have ppl dedicated to the server lag problem.
I bet they purged that entire team a year ago
Every last member is currently a permanent resident of a Siberian Gulag
From all these reports, it seems that this is an issue specific to EU and NA server, the best thing you guys can do now is to forward as much information towards Wargaming via Support, instead being here trying to speculate reasons for the lag, when you are not well-trained nor well-educated to do so.
says who
Says everyone but you
that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it
but I don’t think you speak for everyone @thorn shale
Yeah I try not to speak for monkeys
oh dang we are feelin cute aren’t we @thorn shale
Why do I feel like I'm interacting with hated
lol I’m not in hated
maybe look into that
Idk much abt that clan so I’m not gonna say much there but based on what you are kind of implying abt them I’ll just say I’m actually a very nice person.....just ask everybody 😉
You are also a very unique and special person 👍
unique and special in a good way
unique and special in a unique and special way 👍
speed
it’s not me 🌚
_Glory#4277 was muted
Why glory muted 😪
I’m sure he didn’t say a single word about tan tan 🥴
Hi
@silver vapor
@astral parcel ?
Hello all, I'm new here, I want to ask about this competition, how can I join this match?
I have the same question as Heddrik
🙂
@remote pagoda @normal scarab Tournaments is a game mode that is regularly organized - up to 5 times a week! Just go into the tournament tab ingame and check the details! you will need to assemble 7 players at the given time whenever you want to join a tournament.
thanks for the info, but I would find it hard to assemble 7 players. oof, bye season containers
that's why we have clans - Clans is a very handy community where players with similar interests gather, asking your clanmate / joining a clan that is socially active will help building a tournament team a lot easier!
@silver vapor thanks for the info👍
you can also join in on a team for Quick Tournaments
My clan doesn't do tourneys.
I just wanna get my my personal supply to Tier 10 then leave and find some clan that plays tourneys
QTs are not by clan they can be individual. find a team that is looking for players @normal scarab
That's why I'm here, can't find one for now. I heard the tournament servers are laggy @foggy torrent
registration for QT teams open at 1 pm est
I don't understand: wy do Spring season V-VII tournaments starting just at 21:00 pm??
It's too late for me
Its perfect for NA
10 PM is too late for East Coast. 8 PM (5 PST) is too early for West Coast, who would basically just get home from school.
Because from me (Ukraine) it's relly too late. I have to go to bed😭
this time has been used for over years
and you are complaining it now which is really trouble for everyone tbh
@normal scarab I would very much recommend that you join a active clan. You can grind your supply in any clan. Active clans will be very helpful to you in development and learning
Poach him @winged anchor
Not if he doesn't even know what he is asking about😄
Thanks
Damn it button @low badger
Lmao get baited on
the tournaments are laggy. me, my team and our opponents are flying or in the ground
WTF AGAIN?
Tnx for tournsments
WG wtf is going on with you servers?
WG thx for tournaments
At least it was fun to experience these lags :D
30 seconds of flying tanks
Full battle,lol
We had full battle of lags
So useless, we work hard for cw and we get lags like theses in Turney? So annoying...
@stark crow did u lose?
@burnt glacier yea
Nice service from WG
@burnt glacierdid you play?
Woooh we should of never lost our battles !!!! Thanks WG
you are lag also in tournament ?
we get so much lag as well when play tournament
So annoying
For example
@dry niche when you shoot on tanks, shots goes in other direction, yea
Real good servers you have here, and you claim to be E-Sports type game Clap Clap
it has been 2/3 weeks since the tournament lags are frequent
Yea @lone crown
@violet epoch so true
It can be better if wg does a Little break of 2 weeks but manage theses problems
They prefer sell more tanks
So frustrating
Well our defeat today may of cost us a place in the ranking....
Actually in monday was the same trash situation
Its been like that since the event started i think
next day lags...
@gentle sierra nope waaay before it started it was already like that
Nice game,where u cant play event without lags or trash MM
Impressive conditions for E-sports in WoT Blitz
just gonna say, tournaments where so laggy tanks where teleporting everywhere
this is crazy i missed 4 shots half meter of e3 butt
same here
and enemy hits 500 meters from me
its not fair,one team lagged,we missed 20 shots,enemy maybe 2-3
Happened to everyone @sudden shadow
no its not how can they have 10/10 shots?
And ofcourse WG will ignore it....And results will not cancelled
wanna see? they hit all their shots 90%
Fix ur servers wtf
Check my replays wg
take it as you can but is this how clan leader should behave and its not nameing and shameing its just to show otheres example
@sudden shadow if you played on pc use autoaim and it will show tank is tank is on one place and autoaim is aiming on the othere plkace but when you shoot you do dmg
WG need to fix this... not fair. Immor lose place 2
20 shots missed and they hit 90% of their coz no lag,i checked tank by tank of them how much they pen/miss
It’s rigged
The likelihood of getting trashed talked after losing to NA’s pendejos is about 75%.
Based on this probability, it is reasonable for us humans to assume there will be a war in chat, and logically sound to therefore launch pre-emptive strikes of Maga2020 spam.
But we don’t do it cuz we’re nOn-ToXiC
I will write to WG's support...I will send them replays with asking to cancel results
they need to reset this tour
this is just not fair... great environment for players...
lol IMMOR you lost one and suddenly you wanna replay whole tournamente, no logice everyone had same lag
@burnt glacier EVERYONE had lag whats with those who got 1st place, in not fair to them too and lag came in FINALS only not like it was from beggining
Its not normal that one team win because they get more luck with lugs
Whats point of such results
omg @sudden shadow ^^^^^ juka
it is not fair that the proefsssional teams suffer, and other teams get lucky with lag... it’s not decent play.
professional team? havent seen you in pro tour and everyone had lag your problem that you couldnt hit
I’m not on the main team.
@green sierra so u think that this is normal that one team win thxgiving lags.Nice justice to rest teams,who get more lags
oh now ur rude? what clan are you?
lol only you 3 act as babies and cry because you coudnt aim while everyone had lag
sure,bcs other didnt have lags,and its not same for all
you had lag in semifinals?
yes
huge ones,what is this? i should fight while my tank is flying around,while enemy lands 10/10 shots
yea sure, I asked othere clans that got in finals and they had lags in finals only so idk what your talking about but that may be your wi fi problem
nope my whole team had same
replay?
@burnt glacier @sudden shadow tell me this isnt fair win, both teams had lag and better won
10/10 shots?
have you seen replay?
wich one?
no its not fair win bcs you won just bcs more luck in lag shots
would you win if no lag? can u say u would win same?
++++++
ofc he will defend lags coz its only way they can beat other team
it would be best that al tours are like this wouldnt it?
they had lag too what cant you understand
you would win on same way if no lags?
and we would win anyways look history we won against them last time also and even traind with them
oh look at this guy hahaha he says they would win anyway,no need to talk anymore,u showed all of yout brains here
So it make win more justice,just because someone had less effect on them game
ok bye, idk why you cry, your still in top 8
bcs we lost 2nd place bcs of bad luck
2nd or 8th you all will play in top echelon tour
meh whatever
u have 2 teams stop crying
who asked u for any opinion? so what if i have 2 teams?
lmao, I guess immors ego is too big for them to handle
no its not ur the one here attacking,and as we all know,esa is one of most toxic clans in game
your asking for a reset because u are sad that u lost, due to lag. Deal with it. The world doesnt not rotate around the immor clan
Adapt. Overcome. Improvise.
what is ur problem,tour is not supposed to be laggy
lifes not supposed to be hard, but yet it is
Immors ego 😂 😂 , said a guy from esa @sudden shadow
our ego is off the charts
Everyone has noticed
well we did dare u... flash back to bc on canyon
funny how he got reckdt,backfire level 3000 haha
Good for u , see ya when u have to play with 7 touch players 😂
?
Fixed
😂
lol, touch is for bots who care about the game and want to play it the way it was made
Sure
I didn't know you can get mastery badges in tournaments🤔