#tourneys-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 77

thorn shale Apr 2, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Btw what about tournaments? Is top 8 from prof tournament allowed to Play ascent ones?

green sierra Apr 2, 2019, 5:28 PM

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no

fringe galleon Apr 2, 2019, 5:33 PM

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How about quicks?

agile depot Apr 2, 2019, 5:48 PM

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wg talk only about the echolon chamionchip so i think u can do it @fringe galleon

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eternal breach Apr 2, 2019, 7:42 PM

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i mean cant u just hide other peoles camos?

hasty glen Apr 2, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Hey anyone want a member for tournys? I have every tier with 61.27% wr

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@ me if you need an extra member cuz im down

thorn shale Apr 2, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@hasty glen use #tourneys-team-search

twilit skiff Apr 3, 2019, 3:59 AM

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How many battles do I have to play In tournament to get this..?

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 4:09 AM

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@twilit skiff 0 but you need to get into top 8 of any professional tournaments

twilit skiff Apr 3, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Ohk

chilly terrace Apr 3, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Player who received Professionals tickets cannot participate in Ascent and Echelon tournaments. Check up full regulations.

versed field Apr 3, 2019, 9:08 AM

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is this real?😂

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 9:09 AM

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search msgs from Rexy and see

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but iys fake prob

versed field Apr 3, 2019, 9:10 AM

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ok.

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 9:13 AM

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um he didnt say it, just searched

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 9:44 AM

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@chilly terrace yeah the ingame regulations was a bit unclear as it only mentioned about echelon tournaments but nothing about Ascent tournaments. Thanks for the clarification though

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 10:13 AM

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Is it just the players, or does it apply to all members of the clan?

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 10:20 AM

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players i reckon

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 10:22 AM

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@winter swallow he said only those who got professionals tickets

chilly terrace Apr 3, 2019, 10:39 AM

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@silver vapor added information into in-game regulations

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@winter swallow about players who received Professional tickets]

pale finch Apr 3, 2019, 10:49 AM

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@chilly terrace will spectating be available in the professional tournament like in the qualifiers?

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 10:54 AM

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I wish not

thorn shale Apr 3, 2019, 10:55 AM

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It won’t have the massive impact that a lot of ppl think it will

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 10:55 AM

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it's a matter of perspective but you want as little external impact as possible in such top level gameplay

thorn shale Apr 3, 2019, 10:55 AM

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It’s a pretty harmless way of including your reserve players IMO

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 10:56 AM

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It’s tricky. There is an advantage to teams who’s captain/caller is the 8th man. Also streamers take one of a teams allocated spectator slots.

I think having team members spectating does provide an advantage.

I think it should be equal for both teams.

@pallid raven that is a fugazi

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 10:56 AM

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I've heard both sides of the story, and I like both sides of the story as well, but I am personally leaning towards not having spectator just so that we can eliminate the possibility of things, accusations or anything

thorn shale Apr 3, 2019, 10:56 AM

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@pallid raven I saw that

pallid raven Apr 3, 2019, 10:57 AM

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I was going to ask a question, if they would consider

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 10:57 AM

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@pallid raven please stop scamming people around here.

pallid raven Apr 3, 2019, 11:51 AM

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At least I made some people believe it

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 11:53 AM

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good for you as you find something that you are proud of, though in my eyes that's disgusting

chilly terrace Apr 3, 2019, 12:01 PM

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@pale finch Spectating won't be available in Professionals Tournament due limited places for spectators

pale finch Apr 3, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Okay cheers

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 12:32 PM

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I think that is a good decision. The 8th man mechanic is possibly a big change for how teams operate and perform.

median mantle Apr 3, 2019, 12:34 PM

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^^

pallid raven Apr 3, 2019, 12:42 PM

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You must have bad eyes

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To me it was a masterpiece, but guess people have different types of humour

pale finch Apr 3, 2019, 12:55 PM

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@winter swallow I agree it would definitely be a big game changer

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Especially if your caller is one of the weaker players

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Calling while playing is supposed to be really tough

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That’s why it’s rewarding when you win

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Take @pale finch for example. Do not get me wrong, he is brilliant player and one of the best strategists/callers in the game, but objectively - his random stats are not equitable with some players in the R2K side. We see (saw?) a very similar thing with Tomas in LGN.

Do you think R-2-K / LGN play better with their caller being freed up to focus on that role, and inserting a 7th "more" "skillful" player in their place / versus Zird / Tomas staying in the squad, commanding their vehicle and the team?

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Calling is one of the biggest factors in Blitz esports. - I cannot overstate how important it is for a team to have a good caller. I've seen near identical teams be transferred by the leadership of one competent individual.

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:01 PM

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It’s not even that the caller is any less of a player, but by not needing to shoot and drive and watch out for shots, it’s so much easier

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:01 PM

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^

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Plus the added bonus of jumping to different parts of the map to see everything better

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Having a caller player is a bit of an equalizer in my mind and it makes sure that they’re equally skilled as the others

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I think spectating in some of the tier 6 and 8 tournaments would be a good thing for teams trying to get better

gaunt hollow Apr 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Ej mniał być opis Turka A nie dc

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Znowu są jakieś bugi

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:13 PM

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@gaunt hollow English only please

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 1:16 PM

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@chilly terrace can we get certificats for 100% crew and its gonna be reward for bigger tournaments (gold or echelon or if yo add some new ones)

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I am just going to bring this up once again
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/521999784991522817/544174411540856833/Screenshot_20190211-004042__01.jpg

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:20 PM

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We definitely need a Tier 10 tank only available by playing tournaments, i don't have any idea about which one, but i mean that would be so great in order to motivate more clans/peoples for tournaments

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:21 PM

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if there is no one best tank, then offer the options for players to choose it?

fresh tartan Apr 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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mk6

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Doesn't matter tho, because you can only use it for tournaments

median mantle Apr 3, 2019, 1:36 PM

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A few thousand dollars aren’t a sufficient motivation @supple quartz ?

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Good ideas @silver vapor - aligned with my thoughts on promoting Tier X esports in Blitz. _ In actual fact, I had a read a review by a competitive gamer who played some WoT PC and said that the game will never make it big for esports due to the grind mechanic. I am inclined to agree. People who want to play esports want to play it now, not grind tank lines for 2 years before they can even begin competing.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:39 PM

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And tbh Wargaming have the resources to make such rewarding system already imo. They already have a dedicated set of players who just plays even when the prize is virtually only 500k credits per tournaments, and in need of some more rewards

And imo all tier x should be free for all to access (at least in the tournaments game mode) in order to create a very interesting gameplay environment - this especially goes to tanks like T-22 Chieftain Mk6 and M60 .etc

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Putting some of the tournament selections behind paywall is sort of a irresponsible p2w, albeit not the most disadvantage one

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Would need to be against a fee. I like the WoT PC tank rental system. In Blitz, rent a tier X for use in tournaments only (no randoms, rankings or training rooms) for 1,000,000 credits for 50 battles or something similar

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That is 20,000 credits per battle. Which probably too generous...

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Keep in mind that tournaments is a game-mode that even the slightest difference in terms of characteristics, for example comparison of T-62A and Obj.140, will make or break the game

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:44 PM

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T62A gun depression crippled me earlier today in randoms. The parallel of peeing with a morning glory. Struggle to get it down, struggle to hit the target. have to position carefully to perform reliably. 140 by contrast is like playing with a smi

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:44 PM

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And they are putting tanks which have sort of unique characteristics like the Mk.6, tanks that have some more special style in it like the M60 and T-22

All behind the paywall

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Rewarding good clans with an exclusive tier x tank is an awful idea

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All you’re doing is creating a bigger gap between top teams and the next level down

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Make it a tier 8

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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@chilly hemlock I don't disagree with that as I see where you are coming from - and that's exactly why such a rental system is sugged by me and rolling

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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M60 is equal to M48, possibly slightly wrose IMO. Mk.6 isn't that special. It does open up some interesting options and R2K have been usingit well lately.

The T-22 I can't comment on because I've limited experience against it and so few people have.

Rewarding Tier X players with anything less than items linked to tier X tanks is pretty much useless. Camos good. Avatars good. Tier X tanks amazing.... but like a tier vi - viii tank? Meh. They don't really care lol

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Tier x attachments or camos is the way to go

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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@winter swallow M60 has 1 extra degree of gun depression, iirc.

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:46 PM

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Why awful ? i mean this takes times to be a good clan(Especially in CW) so an exclusive tank for the best clans seems legit enough

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Exclusive edges for the people with the greatest skill already stifles compeition.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:47 PM

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@supple quartz ideally, you shouldn't put exclusivity into the tournaments tank pool.

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Mk 6 is more likely a T110E5(Even tho there is some differences between them of course)

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@supple quartz but the difference between the two can make and break a strat easily, more so than the difference between a Obj.140 and T-62A

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Yeah, i see what u mean

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Why not have war bonds in blitz so the best clans can get premium equipment too then

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😂

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:49 PM

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@chilly hemlock read up, that's exactly what I suggested half a year ago (which I just reposted it)

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Honestly it’s not hard to understand. Aesthetics only for tier x

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Aesthetics best way to go. Clan logos on tanks etc. - hell, even the clan motto written downthe barrel would look sweet.

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Or an exclusive tank tier 9 and below

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Definitely, i mean you'll be even more proud of your clan in battles if you can wear the clan logo and motto in your tanks

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 1:50 PM

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and then there is asia where they still need logos in general lol

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:50 PM

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I would like to have a custom clan logo for starters and lovely if I can stick it onto the tank

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@winter swallow lol I'm just going to keep nagging Wargaming until I get what I want 🙃

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:52 PM

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What do I get?

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We already have a custom clan logo

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How many clans eventually get to have a custom clan logo? It loses its appeal after a while

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:54 PM

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@chilly hemlock clan logo on tanks - clan motto on barrel and even clan avatar

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Each season should get a unique camo for top 8

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 1:54 PM

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But the idea of Rolling is indeed very great, if you could spend credits in order to rent different tanks that you need for CW that would bring more peoples to tournaments(Different level of peoples) i mean some guys doesn't have the required tanks and doesn't want/have time to grind them because some grind are very painful, it will not affect the game economy as the tanks you will rent will be only available for tournaments so if in future the guy like the tanks he will grind it(It can be even good, because let's say the guy doesn't have free XP and doesn't want to play a stock tank, so he will spend some golds in order to free XP the modules, etc)

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Clan logo on the tank? All of the tanks?? You must not like the devs

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:55 PM

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@chilly hemlock just as a decal. It's easily doable

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 1:55 PM

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They need to rework the entire camouflage system if they want to bring custom clan logo on tanks. This is just a phone game after all

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Clan camos aren’t going to happen

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Clan logos on tanks are going to be too much of a head ache

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Until emblems are added

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:56 PM

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@keen oar idk. But whatever they do, as long as it satisfies their comp audience it should be done

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Clan Avatar^^^

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Spring season should be a green professional camo

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Purpl for twister season top 8

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Clan avatar is a no brainer and easy to do

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Jajaja anything clan related gets u tunneled in game so why nawt

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Tbh professional avatar should be timed, like duration for 1 year.

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:58 PM

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We get tunneled regardless

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It should say:
PRO
Spring 19

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Offliners should get a shiny cup avatar

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Ewww

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Try playing the game with a good clan tag and pro avatar

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Twister should be a twister cup avatar

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That’s self explanatory

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@keen oar I did today lol, there were some targeting but mostly the same

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Inb4 comment saying FEAST is not a good clan

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Why don’t wg just convert all special awards like the token for quAlIfiNg SprInG TOrnAmEnT into avatars

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Feast isnt a good clan.

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Let’s not start a flame war

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Cabbage that’s toxic

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Hold up

fringe galleon Apr 3, 2019, 2:02 PM

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I like tunneling and focusing in randoms. It makes me better player

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Proper mentality

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Can we get a reward that grants us a discount on tier 10 for researching :>

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:04 PM

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^^ that can be part of the rewards for tournament reward system, like 50% exp discount

fringe galleon Apr 3, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Yes pls i dont wanna grind anymore

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 2:05 PM

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There is already the certificates for discount on XP, so maybe they can add some certificates in rewards for gold series and silver series tournaments if you get into a certain place

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:05 PM

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It is tier 10 related and can really help out as usually getting anothwr tier 10 tank usually takes 1 month for me which is just so time consuming.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:05 PM

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@supple quartz nah that would be too much - gold and silver tournaments runs on a weekly basis

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And tbh, if you are playing tournaments that often it's unlikely you will need to grind that much tanks unless you are a filthy reroll

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I mean tournaments reward u with credits.what i really need is that research discount.because just seeing 275k needed to research a t10 kills my willpower and interest.

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:08 PM

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After u have done it already 20 times^^^

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Lol

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:11 PM

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@idle basalt You can always use the gold wg gibs to buy free experience 😏

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:11 PM

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But i burn them with name changes :v?

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Why would u spent half a year worth of gold u earn in game on name changes

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Mostly my uncertainties and the memez.i did name myself Dont_Stop_Oniichan after all 😄

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I do think prizing can work as,research discounts for people like us who dont have all tanks while veterans with most if not all tanks in the garage can be rewarded with an attachment of their choice or a legendary camo of also their choice.

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:16 PM

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U mean we can choose our rewards after winning a tournament 😏

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Dont worry, i will call from now on 😏

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Learn to play on touch first 😏

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Currently ive been giving 0 effort on that 😏

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:20 PM

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I wonder how many times we have to repeat this conversation before Wargaming implements it

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Don’t worry. Just another 5 years

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I bet

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:22 PM

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They shall do everything on the 10th anniversary and only the 10th anniversary

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:23 PM

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You're too optimistic larry, its probably gonna be in 7 years give or take if they care enough/the game dies

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Nah the comp scene will actually grow the day that wg’s prize pool attracts sponsors and teams to actually organize stuff instead of just a bunch of unicums on discord @ing ppl to get on a play a quick tournament

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Lol funny thing is that my clan never need tags for QT, we just do it silently and synchronized - it's only when big tournaments like this we are tagging people around and stuff 🍵

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:27 PM

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MEaNWhIlE ChAoS ChaNnEls

lETs @ evErYoNe fOR 10MiNuTEs

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Maybe if our attendance is as great as last twister season there will be less @s 😏

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Heh.
@compact citrusy you free tonight?
@haxxy accept invite
@tepid ledge get in, loser
@hated join up n*****

@hector please don’t apply.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Lol

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Ok this is not my fault that random impersonators got @

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Very funny drag 😄

keen oar Apr 3, 2019, 2:30 PM

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@atomic tartan stOp @ing us when We LeFT a meSsAGE SaYinG I caNt pLei ToniGht

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Leiwii:"IlL bE oN VoIcE MuTEd"

We nEEd OnE mORe peRson
We @Leiwii SinCe HEs aLreaDy on VoiCe
DoEsNt ResPond afTer 10m Of EverYone SpammiNG hIm
Lewii:"Im HErE gUYs"

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@keen oar try playing the game while running a YouTube channel and having good clan tags XD

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Throw in clan commander of the #1 clan in the server with that @winter swallow and you get concep in 2015

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 2:35 PM

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My first game this morning I played IS3-D on Mayan ruins, I went to C to support green meds ... every single enemy (including a pro -1- player) peeled off our team and focused me into oblivion. My team didn't even capitalise. i was very sad.

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Alternatively, I played t62-A super sneaky on mines the next game, and I got flamed for being a noob/rat/coward/scumbag etc. - lol - today was not my day.

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I have so many stories of getting yoloed by dumb hectors i can’t even start

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 2:36 PM

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We need a support group @atomic tartan -

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Nub

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 2:37 PM

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^ see. It is relentless .... runs away to the bathroom crying

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@idle basalt hello hector

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@atomic tartan i am sorry but u got the wrong person 😄

median mantle Apr 3, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Lol. When u see a random red saying hi + clan name (which is actually nice), u know that focus and yolo are not that far 😹

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@idle basalt H e c t o r

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@atomic tartan D R A G O N,i am sorry but as i said u have the wron person 😁

chilly hemlock Apr 3, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Guys

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Tournament chat or general blitz

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@median mantle ikr they just all tryhard focus you and either you die or you laugh at them for failing

median mantle Apr 3, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I prefer 3rd solution, which consists in yoloing them 😹😹 @silver vapor

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:46 PM

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But back to topic, Wargaming need to do something regarding to tournament rewarding system. I mean we are going to stay, but who knows when we have to leave this game?

idle basalt Apr 3, 2019, 2:47 PM

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It cant just be only credits and a few gold.that gets very barren and makes it very limited and unappealing

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Tournaments game mode should be a game mode that doesn't favour any exclusivity in tank pool, and also it should be a game mode that promotes grindy towards a end-game objective like making the clan feel better and more competitive so they can work on the objective together.

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I'm in favour of more $$$ more regularly - even smaller amounts. Imagine $1525 onlines monthly. 1st place 900 2nd 450 and 3rd 175

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Thats 6600 across 4 servers.

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Wait. 6100. Quikmaf. Per year thats 73200 annually.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 3:04 PM

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That's going to kill it even more I think. Since that basically means players would need to invest in the game more (aka ditching real life) to get those cash prizes

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This is basically their 2nd job once you start doing that and I don't think the rewards is there to encourage people to do that

glass thunder Apr 3, 2019, 3:08 PM

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@winter swallow a monthly tournament will be so great

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better than place useless qt or others boring tournaments for 5 months

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it will give e sport players more reason to play more and train more if you fail this month you train more and try again next month

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I am still waiting for that "opportunity" 😭

📎 Screenshot_20190404-021241__01.jpg

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 3:16 PM

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poor asia server

glass thunder Apr 3, 2019, 3:20 PM

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asia have 50.2 % of the world population

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@glass thunder but the game population is like 5% of entire Blitz population

glass thunder Apr 3, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@silver vapor ik that sad wg should invest more on that server

fresh tartan Apr 3, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@silver vapor ,some (maybe most) of players play in EU servers, like me (plz don't change my server :/ )

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 3:44 PM

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😭

fresh tartan Apr 3, 2019, 3:44 PM

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maybe that meant a tournament for Zombie vs Human in Asia server

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idk why players play tournament :/

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Because the human spirit is competitive as hell and the real prize is bragging rights.

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 4:27 PM

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^^^ literally me

pale finch Apr 3, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Pride in being the best is definitely something that makes tournaments appealing to me

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I can't really deny about the bragging rights part but I try my best to not brag everywhere if i can 😂

winged anchor Apr 3, 2019, 4:47 PM

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We are talking about a company that makes in the millions ea month. A price pool of 10k a month would be nothing to them. It would most definitely encourage better comp play

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Optimistic alert

vital obsidian Apr 3, 2019, 5:02 PM

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how is china doin on cw lately

silver vapor Apr 3, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Wombats jumped onto Asia as 101AD, end of story.

vital obsidian Apr 3, 2019, 5:16 PM

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why cant china play asian server

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 5:16 PM

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so only 8 teams get in top echolon?

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@vital obsidian china has their own server

vital obsidian Apr 3, 2019, 5:19 PM

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I know, but they COULD play asia and then asia would get more players..

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 5:23 PM

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@chilly terrace how many teams can be in top Echelon, cuz it says 1-8 but what if some teams/clans have same number of trophys

winter swallow Apr 3, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Top echelon last year twister was teams that secured top 8 ranks.

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It was like 16 teams EU as some ranks had multiple teams with same score

chilly terrace Apr 3, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@green sierra It's unlikely that more then 8 teams will be in the top Echelon, but if they will, all teams from the Top Echelon will be able to participate in Championship

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 5:55 PM

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just checked last year there where 15 teams, so more then 1 team can be in 1 position. Nice

static grail Apr 3, 2019, 6:25 PM

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cs

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haj gays

hollow bolt Apr 3, 2019, 6:26 PM

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@static grail you read the rules?

static grail Apr 3, 2019, 6:27 PM

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yes

hollow bolt Apr 3, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Did you understand them?

hybrid dagger Apr 3, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Yes. Understand

static grail Apr 3, 2019, 6:28 PM

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dou pleing

hollow bolt Apr 3, 2019, 6:29 PM

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So you just decided to ignore them?

static grail Apr 3, 2019, 6:30 PM

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whom

thorn shale Apr 3, 2019, 6:30 PM

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i need a team

hollow bolt Apr 3, 2019, 6:30 PM

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@thorn shale #tourneys-team-search

static grail Apr 3, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Přeložit z jazyka: norština
7/5000
yeah i

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 7:34 PM

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@frosty nexus trophies that we get are clan trophies, what I mean if one player leaves team those trophies stay in clan?

lime trail Apr 3, 2019, 8:58 PM

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How do you talk for the headset with world of tank Blitz I have tried to set up everything and I have a headset USB at all

fathom tiger Apr 3, 2019, 9:04 PM

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We use discord voice chat.

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 9:07 PM

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or teamspeak

fathom tiger Apr 3, 2019, 9:09 PM

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We have a telephatic connection

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 9:10 PM

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we write calls on paper then mail them

fathom tiger Apr 3, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Smoke signals

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 9:10 PM

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pigeon courier

brazen thunder Apr 3, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Morse

fathom tiger Apr 3, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Painting calls on the walls of caves

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 9:11 PM

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one tap on table = A
two taps on table = B
three taps on table = C
four taps on table = D

supple quartz Apr 3, 2019, 9:11 PM

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TeamSpeak is way better i have to say

green sierra Apr 3, 2019, 9:15 PM

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we throw bricks at eachothere, that is how we call kills and strats

thorn shale Apr 3, 2019, 10:27 PM

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No

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Stop bullying this poor dude

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He’s a confused 🐖

atomic tartan Apr 3, 2019, 10:38 PM

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🐵

green plover Apr 3, 2019, 10:39 PM

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So when is the update for better gold and silver tourney rewards and when do we get better tanks from seasonal events?

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I’d like to receive a large payment

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 4, 2019, 12:34 AM

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dynoSuccess ᴵˣᵛᶻᵏ𓋹#2570 was muted

eternal breach Apr 4, 2019, 1:50 AM

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YEET won twice tourney 6v7

eternal breach Apr 4, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Did anyone else open small containers?

vital obsidian Apr 4, 2019, 4:54 AM

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Yes there seen less stuff in them than in the daily boxes

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But they free so..,

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Only 2 days left

green sierra Apr 4, 2019, 8:31 AM

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@chilly terrace trophies that we get are clan trophies, what I mean if one player leaves team those trophies stay in clan?

chilly terrace Apr 4, 2019, 8:48 AM

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You are right. Trophies will stay with your clan.

frosty nexus Apr 4, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Dear players on EU server, please make attention on some changes in the start-time of quick tournaments for tiers VII-VIII and IX-X. The start-time for tier VII-VIII has been changed (20:10 (CEST). The registration: from 9:10 (CEST) to 21:40 (CEST). The time for tier IX-X is 20:20 (CEST). The registration: from 9:20 (CEST) to 21:50 (CEST). The changes have been implemented caused by technical reasons.

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Those times are rather late. I do not know how many teams would be able to compete at such hours.

thorn shale Apr 4, 2019, 9:55 AM

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Wrong channel @silver vapor

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 4, 2019, 9:55 AM

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dynoSuccess Maddox#0438 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess Maddox#0438 was muted

green sierra Apr 4, 2019, 9:57 AM

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oof

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Coins. Many coins. Scrooge mcDuck tournament coins. Coins for all. Coins for you and you and you and you! For everyone. Coins.

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:19 AM

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wth o_o

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Please don’t do that @frosty nexus it’ll ruin tournaments for the average player

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It is one of the worst changes that WG has ever made and there has been plenty of them, it’s like you intentionally wish for tournament participating to decrease

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:22 AM

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that moment, when Wargaming wants to avoid people participating in tournaments >.>

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it's be 23.10 for Finland, for instance, which has a lot of competitive players, before it even starts, let alone when it ends

green sierra Apr 4, 2019, 10:23 AM

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less tour players, less potecial teams for twister, less rewards

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when you say a lot, you mean one clan and that is W1N @leaden belfry ?

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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just an example

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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W1N is pretty much all from Finland, yes, but I know quite a few more that play competitively, from that country

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but it's half of Europe in that timezone

burnt glacier Apr 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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No,its just -WW- and -Win-

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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so it's not just limited to Finland

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it's an example

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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all of us from finland 😄

green sierra Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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xD

thorn shale Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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😂

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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the whole eastern europe is screwed

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I don't think WG realises that for quite a few people, tournaments would now end after midnight

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UK has a chance though. They finish at 11pm, thereabouts

burnt glacier Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Sure....WG its trash change with time,rly....Thx all finnish for trash time,rly

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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The Russians will have som fun, there’s lots of russian players on the EU server and it’ll be completely messed up for them

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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think about players in ukraine ¯_(ツ)_/¯

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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maybe that's why they did this

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"The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming" as the movie goes

supple quartz Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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#BackToYourServerRussiansPlayers

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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"no tournaments for you"

burnt glacier Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Sure,lets fap on finnish players

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Well hopefully they will realize their mistake when the tournament participation decreases lol

burnt glacier Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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The have lots of teams in tournaments

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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I'll keep bugging them about it in the mean time

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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guess we're gonna skip the rest of the QTs then

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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they did say it's due to technical reasons - I hope it can get fixed

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@fathom tiger I'm surprised you're not in for this midnight get together for your clan 🙃

burnt glacier Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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@pale finch its already done i suppose,no gold for 1st place in common tournaments

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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OwO

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 10:29 AM

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@fathom tiger is awake all the time anyways so he doesn’t need to worry 😂

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Xd yasss but the rest of my team lol

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:34 AM

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just carry hard, you can do it ;)

frosty nexus Apr 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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The start time is 20:10 (CEST for tier VII-VIII and 20:20 (CEST) for tier IX-X

sudden fjord Apr 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Start of tourneys?

frosty nexus Apr 4, 2019, 10:39 AM

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yes

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quick tournaments

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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phew =)

frosty nexus Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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because as I see the message has been understood wrong that's why I've decided to make a note

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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that looks a lot better thx ;D

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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10 mins is no biggy =)

fringe galleon Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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👆 Tell that to 3lmeris mother

leaden belfry Apr 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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LOL

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Xd rekt

fringe galleon Apr 4, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Joke 😊

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:41 AM

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arent the best jokes true stories tho?

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 10:45 AM

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@fathom tiger can play quicks even when in pros?

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 10:45 AM

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idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

green plover Apr 4, 2019, 10:53 AM

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@winter swallow I believe u can play them before the prof season tournament registration ends

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But that’s it, after registration it’ll be closed

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 11:13 AM

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cheers - what i was thinking

thorn shale Apr 4, 2019, 12:06 PM

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سلام

fathom tiger Apr 4, 2019, 12:51 PM

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no u

vital obsidian Apr 4, 2019, 1:19 PM

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whats all the fuzz about finnish clans and players 🤔 guys its summer so we dont sleep at all since sundont go down. Ezz

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Lololol

green plover Apr 4, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Sleep for the weak

gentle kayak Apr 4, 2019, 3:31 PM

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👌 👌 👌 👌 🤔 🤔

manic pewter Apr 4, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death

pale finch Apr 4, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Oof, Nas @manic pewter

green sierra Apr 4, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Curently there are 68 teams in top 8 position, does that mean all 68 would be in top echelon (Ik its been only one tour and this is just example)

winter swallow Apr 4, 2019, 6:13 PM

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probably not....

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 6:38 AM

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TOMORROW. Oh yes. Hype. Hype train. Woop-woop.

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https://tenor.com/view/gethype-gleesonheem-hype-get-gif-5210894

Tenor

pale finch Apr 5, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Yeahh, I’m also looking forward to it

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 8:03 AM

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Im terrifyied

pale finch Apr 5, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Xd, who do you have in your first rounds? @fathom tiger

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Oh nvm I remember you have us xd, idk about the other team though. We play H4PKY first and you afterwards

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 8:25 AM

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-1- and r2k loll

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Ez souls win

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 9:11 AM

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thats 3 teams @green sierra

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I don't know who will win. But I am going to provide top notch score overviews for you all as we go along.

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fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 9:23 AM

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i bet my money on ra1d

manic pewter Apr 5, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Bet on us u traitor 👆

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 9:31 AM

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oh just a typo sorry

gleaming pollen Apr 5, 2019, 9:42 AM

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We are already bottom of The scoreboard

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 9:50 AM

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arranged alphetically

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also to compensate for your northerness

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 9:57 AM

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@winter swallow what are your predictions for each region?

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 9:58 AM

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oof. OK - I will do a 1-8 seeding EU NA Asia RU - confidence in that order high to low lol

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:03 AM

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I like how there is only 5 hours left to reg close and Asia is still 1 team missing #AsiaIsDead

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 10:06 AM

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EU:

EROS
R-2-K
RA1D
-1-
–W1N-
EZ-
S0ULS
H4PKY
NA:
RGNr
PRAMO
V
RGNc
PNCR
_STR8
–VON-
HATED
Asia:
FEAST
–TBT-
–ID-
XR
TN-MN
LOW
NUB
101AD
RU:
C4
GGAMEv
MERCY
OLRCY
GGAMEh
ESX
–WZRD
Y_B

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:10 AM

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H4PKY gonna win against -1- and S0ULS 99%

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:11 AM

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-WZRD is seeded 7th ? Even though they knocked out sabotage and Iso in qualifiers ?

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:11 AM

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I bet EZ- is gonna be last, btw whydont we add like what counterstrike has. Those Pick ems

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 10:11 AM

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?

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:12 AM

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wait will show you

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silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:16 AM

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idk about -WZRD, I saw their last game vs Iso, it was a bit too dramatic and too much luck involved

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:17 AM

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The last game was luck but they still beat sabotage 2-0

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 10:17 AM

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I have my doubts about the game that was 2 maus v 2 maus at the end. The top 8 will tell.

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:17 AM

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They should be stronger than some of the other teams considering a lot of the groups were much weaker than their group

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:20 AM

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strongest- weakest is worst, Im telling you just make rerolls and get 70% wr, get is4 and you will never see good teams in group. That is biggest problem, look for example R2K whenever I saw them in their group they had 90% of time 50% wrs to 60% wrs bots

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:22 AM

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U do realise that there are not just 8 good teams?

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:22 AM

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the Strongest Weakest doesn't really make sense tbh, it hinders the true performance of teams and brackets. There are simply too many padders that doesn't have the actual strength in teams, and Strong teams being hindered by this matching. there are a lot of examples all over the world

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:23 AM

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when I say god teams I dont mean just top 8, read what I said and you will get it @gentle sierra

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Only 8 can pass though

fringe galleon Apr 5, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Evil uniqums had 70 wr team, they didnt have easy group?

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:25 AM

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again not talking only about qualifiers, I said Tours so that doesnt mean only qualifiers

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:25 AM

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The seeding was very poor for sure since some groups had a lot of competition while others didn't but the alternatives to the system would either be recent player performance or tourney performance which would account for activity and recent ability but that system could end up having similar issues .

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I have one pure example from ascent tour, wanna see it? System is so bad it needs to be fixed

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:26 AM

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But what would you change it to ?

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:26 AM

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We had a higher wr than souls and lost w1n had a lower wr than EU and won, only wr doesnt matter

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:27 AM

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but seeding works with wr, wait Im send screenshots from recent Ascent tour and will show you

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Winrate should still be one of the parameters but they should also take into account the team's pervious achievements in tournaments, at least last 100 tournament battle's results and weight them according to their opponents

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:28 AM

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@green sierra so what ? If your team is better you will win

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:29 AM

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oof no comment, looks like you dont get what I say. Not worth continuing this convo

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Sure

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 10:31 AM

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I said it earlier in this channel - strongest vs. weakest is the best practical option. It does most good for most teams most of the time - but it isn't perfect. Try and suggest a better automated system?

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:31 AM

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That's a good idea @silver vapor but that would mean they would have to rank nearly every teams ability which would mean either they start the system fresh after spring or they calculate from past performance and implement it in the new season . Especially considering that smaller servers like asia barely have many teams with over 100 battles then that would influence the results as it would favour active teams which may not always be better than inactive teams .

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:34 AM

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that why I said, make rerolls with good wr and you will be 99% strongest team in group and rest will be 50% wr to 60% wr bots

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:36 AM

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And then you will meet a good team with 60% and lose

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:37 AM

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@thorn shale It's not my fault that Asia is dead, right?

gentle sierra Apr 5, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Perfect example is w1n , low-ish wr team that is at the top of cw in eu

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 10:38 AM

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I never wanted Asia to be dead, and I have put into numerous resources to train 2 teams into Asia's Spring Season, and they (2nd team) got totally roasted because of this Strongest vs Weakest - They got into vs ID, the highest WR out of all teams

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 10:39 AM

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@winter swallow It looks like all the solutions to the new system propose recent performance

Perhaps something which would provide a rating or coefficient for a team which considers the following

Last 1000 Tier 10 battles , comparing the performance using the WG personal rating system or something (Deductions increase if game activity is low in the past few months)
Any accounts under 10k games result in deductions in the teams coefficient (Or 5k)
Tally of recent damage performance in games against other opponents (Ratio which compares how much damage one team dealt in comparison to another)
Efficiency based on scorelines in past tournaments . Bonus points for clean sheets (Greater points for larger tournament victories like Prof , Gold etc)
Tournament win to loss ratio (Higher wins results in higher score)

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@silver vapor Yes I know it's not your fault, I'm just saying it would not be that good in general for the server .

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 10:53 AM

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@thorn shale - approving constructive comments, but my counter points as devil's advocate:

Seems quite sound but is possible to "game" via platoons and playing OP tanks etc. - but, overall, actually quite a good idea.
This will deter newer players/teams. Yes it counters obvious rerolls but it also hits newbies too so I'm not in favour of such a metric.
Very computationally intensive (I think?) - not sure if there is scope for something of this complexity.
Tournament performance is a good metric, and I like the idea of weighting larger/tougher tournaments over for example quickies. This might prevent equally skilled teams in mid-levels knocking each other out early on. However, it may over estimate teams that put in more time rather than skill.
Similar to 4 on most counts. Also consider for some tournaments with weird team numbers, many top teams get byes in the early rounds so lose points in this metric.

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With regards to pint 1 for EU server at least, explore this data. The R2K / EZ- and EROS high WR players probably do better out of this metric lol.

vital obsidian Apr 5, 2019, 1:21 PM

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I think Ra1d will win in eu

median mantle Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Nah. Loca will @vital obsidian

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 1:38 PM

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no RES

pale finch Apr 5, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I would swap -1- and -W1N- in your prediction for EU @winter swallow

winter swallow Apr 5, 2019, 1:49 PM

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@pale finch I toyed with that tbh - , -1- have bled some talent recently (past year) to other clans so it is hard to predict how they will perform.

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But in the end I'm still very uncertain all servers. I think all servers this year are in a position that no team is unassailable and pretty much every team could make top 4, but obviously for some teams that is very unlikely. BUT - I wouldn't rule it out this year. The fields feel more competitive than ever which is a great thing.

upbeat moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:05 PM

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You should consider a career in politics once your esport commentary career is over @winter swallow

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 2:09 PM

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@chilly terrace something is wrong with ascent tour on saturday

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it shows teams like this

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📎 Screenshot_784.png

arctic axle Apr 5, 2019, 2:11 PM

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that is a big oof.

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 2:11 PM

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rip it crashed game

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I pressed on team and it crashed, lol

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I am not even surprised at any tournament system memes at this point
not anymore

green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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was scrolling and found this, damn these teams

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green sierra Apr 5, 2019, 2:36 PM

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hmm was tagged 2 times in this chat? wut

chilly terrace Apr 5, 2019, 2:46 PM

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@green sierra I tagged you, but deleted messages after that

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@green sierra we will fix the issue with list of teams soon

tall python Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 PM

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#tourneys-team-search

chilly hemlock Apr 5, 2019, 3:49 PM

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@tall python so proud of you

silver vapor Apr 5, 2019, 3:56 PM

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FEAST is weakest out of all 8 teams in terms of WR (top 7 WR?)

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narrow meteor Apr 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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But they have the best MAUS players

dim pivot Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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????

edgy sable Apr 5, 2019, 5:16 PM

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isnt tours working or did they advertise the wrong time??

pallid raven Apr 5, 2019, 6:01 PM

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in 20 mins

pallid raven Apr 5, 2019, 6:22 PM

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The question is why

edgy sable Apr 5, 2019, 7:08 PM

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anyone need 2 ppl for tours? T6

green plover Apr 5, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Wrong channel.

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@thorn shale do u know if we r allowed to play quick tourneys if we r qualified in the top 8 spring season?

crisp shore Apr 5, 2019, 9:50 PM

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FEAST may have the weakest win rate but very possibly the best tactical team in ASIA, and don't forget they were crowned winners of the ASIA server in last year's Twister Cup!

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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@burnt ingot your locked out of any tournaments if your a part of the professionals tournament team for the duration of the tournament

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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But I still got into a team?

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:51 PM

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So are you in a professionals team ? Or just in a clan that made it into the tournament

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:52 PM

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No I'm in it for na void

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Then you can't play in any qts until prof is over since it'll say that you are in another tournament if you try

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:53 PM

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But My clan m8s have already made a team and r in it? And there on the team too

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Has NA registration already finsihed for prof ? Like is your void team registered ?

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Yes

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:54 PM

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And your in this team right ?Cause normally you get locked out of other tournaments.Can you accept the request ?

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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People taking part in the professional's tournament get locked out of other tournament only when the professional's tournament starts

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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No not yet but ppl in my team r in it

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So I can play quick tourneys untill it starts in a day?

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 9:56 PM

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No until the tournament starts

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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I'm lost lol😂

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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🤔 i dont think it could be any more clear

thorn shale Apr 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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When you mean tournament starts are you referring to once registration is finished or after the first game

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 9:58 PM

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^

fathom tiger Apr 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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You can take part in other tournaments until the professional's tournament starts (if you're in the professional's tournament team). For example the professional's tournament starts 21.00 my time so i can take Part in any other tournament (that has to end before that 21.00). Since player can take Part in only one tournament at a time

burnt ingot Apr 5, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Okay thank u 👍 @fathom tiger

ornate cairn Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 AM

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😬 😬 😬

runic forge Apr 6, 2019, 8:47 AM

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oof this channel is closed than

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pallid raven Apr 6, 2019, 8:50 AM

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@runic forge what do u mean?

flint copper Apr 6, 2019, 8:52 AM

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It says "twister season" not "spring season"

fathom tiger Apr 6, 2019, 9:01 AM

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For tournaments and Twister season

green sierra Apr 6, 2019, 9:43 AM

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look at the starting tme of tour

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silver vapor Apr 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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wish us luck ❤ the game starts in 30 minutes

opaque kite Apr 6, 2019, 10:29 AM

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No

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Oooof Asia

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Good luck @silver vapor and btw @leaden belfry please spam me with your Asia coverage!

Looking forward to some GGs yep yep yep 👍

vital obsidian Apr 6, 2019, 10:32 AM

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ascent dont seem be that popular in na 🤔

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:34 AM

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It’s a lot of work for little reward. Plus as Echelon doesn’t give $$$ or generate a wildcard slot chance for the offlines (as far as we know) - I don’t blame people for not being excited.

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Also we don’t have any info on offlines at all....

pale finch Apr 6, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Last time we found out after we won the tourney, don’t lose hope

leaden belfry Apr 6, 2019, 10:36 AM

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^

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Oof

supple quartz Apr 6, 2019, 10:38 AM

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@winter swallow Hey mate, you'll stream today, right ?

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:38 AM

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But @pale finch wasn’t there info in description about ages and travelling etc.?

pale finch Apr 6, 2019, 10:38 AM

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No

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:39 AM

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@supple quartz oui. EU and NA. No Asia coverage though.

supple quartz Apr 6, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Nice !

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:39 AM

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@pale finch well that is news to me, and good news at that. Fingers crossed then! Fml I wished WG gave us more notice of these things.

pale finch Apr 6, 2019, 10:39 AM

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We had genuinely no clue until 2 days after the tournament ended or so

vital obsidian Apr 6, 2019, 10:40 AM

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i really hope wg could reconsider something for the echelon sort of sec chance would increase intrest a lot

pale finch Apr 6, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I mean I already heard some rumors from a “ friend “ but that was about it, nothing from WG

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I have so much travel scheduled for June, July August .... if WG have an offline and I’m on duty overseas somewhere I will literally cry.

silver vapor Apr 6, 2019, 10:41 AM

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lol @winter swallow you are not allowed to miss any offlines coverage anymore 👿

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:42 AM

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16-22 June, Slovenia.

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26 June - 2 July, UK (Tankfest)

vital obsidian Apr 6, 2019, 10:43 AM

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slovenia? you need visit bullsy wineyeard 👍

fathom tiger Apr 6, 2019, 10:43 AM

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im too poor to come into tankfest and steal a hug from rolling

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:43 AM

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7-10 July, Sicily

leaden belfry Apr 6, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Hope to meet you again at Tankfest, Brian =) This time on CC day, with a bit of luck 😁

winter swallow Apr 6, 2019, 10:44 AM

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11-18 August, UK ....

These are just the items booked so far 😬

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Yasssss TankFest. I will be there Friday and Saturday for sure. Sunday AM maybe.

green sierra Apr 6, 2019, 11:40 AM

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@leaden belfry did you start streaming Asia tours?

silver vapor Apr 6, 2019, 12:14 PM

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oof there was a bit of choking against NUB - Vineyards is still a hell to us

leaden belfry Apr 6, 2019, 12:19 PM

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@green sierra I just finised 😁

pallid raven Apr 6, 2019, 12:31 PM

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@silver vapor nice bc relocation

silver vapor Apr 6, 2019, 12:41 PM

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yeah our bc are lovely players, they know more than me when it comes to medium plays lol

arctic axle Apr 6, 2019, 1:13 PM

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This does not belong here. @thorn shale

polar moat Apr 6, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Hi

fresh tartan Apr 6, 2019, 7:15 PM

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youtube is banned, feelsadman

winter swallow Apr 7, 2019, 12:19 AM

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banned where?

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@mental yarrow @leaden belfry - NA Streamer crew, assemble!

leaden belfry Apr 7, 2019, 12:28 AM

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🙋

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present!

mental yarrow Apr 7, 2019, 12:28 AM

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at the ready boss 👌

winter swallow Apr 7, 2019, 12:28 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/thor-marvel-comics-avengers-gif-8224887

Tenor

blazing haven Apr 7, 2019, 12:40 AM

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I’m looking for a team for the next tourney

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To join one

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I’m available for any tier

leaden belfry Apr 7, 2019, 12:46 AM

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#tourneys-team-search @blazing haven

eternal breach Apr 7, 2019, 12:56 AM

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the ticket system is way too strict IMO. You should be able to donate tickets to clan members if needed. A lot of people can't be available both wednesday AND Saturday night

tribal nest Apr 7, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Where do we watch the tournament to get the coins?

ocean rock Apr 7, 2019, 3:21 AM

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yeah?

fathom tiger Apr 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Through wg portal

proud bobcat Apr 7, 2019, 9:00 AM

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hi

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 7, 2019, 10:50 AM

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dynoSuccess Diego tank#3059 has been warned.

upbeat moth Apr 7, 2019, 12:24 PM

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@minor bison English only

thorn shale Apr 7, 2019, 1:04 PM

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H

granite kernel Apr 7, 2019, 1:42 PM

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because? English only

upbeat moth Apr 7, 2019, 4:25 PM

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@thorn shale @slender ivy English only

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 7, 2019, 4:26 PM

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dynoSuccess MATIX KING XD#2383 has been warned.

upbeat moth Apr 7, 2019, 4:26 PM

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🤣

thorn shale Apr 7, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Double send

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Gg

slender ivy Apr 7, 2019, 4:28 PM

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TEST

thorn shale Apr 7, 2019, 6:41 PM

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uhjoi

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hi

thorn shale Apr 7, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Wow kust watch the hall stream and i gor 136 coin

green sierra Apr 7, 2019, 7:39 PM

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lol same it said I got 1044 and in game 108

manic carbon Apr 8, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Is there a stream for na this evening?

tepid nymph Apr 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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^

tepid axle Apr 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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No stream?

simple flax Apr 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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is there a stream for the Asisa Tournament?

rigid mural Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Stream. REEEEEEEE

simple flax Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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is there Any?

rigid mural Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Apparently no, which is bs

simple flax Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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:C R.I.P

spare crown Apr 8, 2019, 1:19 AM

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9h45 pm

simple flax Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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9h 45 what?

meager dawn Apr 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Were is the live stream for NA?

manic carbon Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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No stream. Send a ticket 🙈

simple flax Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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1k gold will be my gift 👌 😂

ocean garden Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Can I join tournament 5-6 or 7-8?

lilac shoal Apr 8, 2019, 4:18 AM

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World of thank

tribal nest Apr 8, 2019, 5:40 AM

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So it was not just me who did not get a stream

chilly terrace Apr 8, 2019, 8:43 AM

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There was not any stream in NA on Sunday.

winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 9:29 AM

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It is hard for streamers based in Europe / Asia to cover NA Sundays and Thursdays due to the time difference.

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I work an 8-6 job so staying up all night to cover NA is virtually suicidal. I want to cover it but mans got a mortgage so man needs a job.

foggy torrent Apr 8, 2019, 11:38 AM

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is there literally no one in NA able to stream?

winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Pretty much. The only NA streamer I know is playing in the tournament.

foggy torrent Apr 8, 2019, 11:47 AM

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that’s too bad. I don’t know of any either. I always watch Bushka

pale finch Apr 8, 2019, 11:47 AM

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I’m sure there would be some interest if WG announced that there are streamer(s) needed, possibly enough interest to cover all games on all servers

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But then again you want streamers that actually knows what’s going on in the comp scene

thorn shale Apr 8, 2019, 11:51 AM

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It would be easily solvable if WG offered to pay streamers

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Make some actual incentives for people to stream the tournament

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pale finch Apr 8, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Yeah I was also thinking about that, it doesn’t have to be much just a small amount. There’s no doubt that they can afford it

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I could probably stream NA if they paid some money for doing it but it’s not worth to mess up your sleeping schedule now because the streamers; imo, doesn’t get enough recognition for their work and they don’t really get any benefits from doing it, from WGs side.

thorn shale Apr 8, 2019, 12:13 PM

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Yep

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We are honestly rather lucky that people like Rolling and Amaunet stream as much as they do considering it’s all for free

pale finch Apr 8, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Yeah I’ve expressed my appreciation for their work plenty of times and it’s well deserved

foggy torrent Apr 8, 2019, 12:54 PM

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oh right, its RollingSwarm that I’ve seen for the tournaments. he’s really good

winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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<3

green sierra Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Nothing is free, even what rolling and amanuet are doing gets them some advantages. But if wg wanted to sponsor their bigger streamers then ofc community would get bigger

arctic axle Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 PM

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@green sierra my love is free ;-;

sudden fjord Apr 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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For example, aptuk from ru server commentates tournaments as well, and now he is WG's employee

winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Advantages? @green sierra - please do let me know what these are lol

green sierra Apr 8, 2019, 2:02 PM

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@winter swallow will prob get invited to twister cup to commentate and if I remembery sk8s video its all payed. Then for example you guys have more contacts with devs while normal players need to wait for support 7 days to answer something simple

winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I wouldn't define an invitation to an offline to deliver more commentary for free as an advantage lol (though it is definitely something I am aiming for).

Would you be happy to trade upwards of €2,000 in hardware costs and over 200 hours of streamed content time (excluding preparation and self-taught learning new software and setups) for a faster turn around time from support? @green sierra

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I'm not complaining, just highlighting that content creation is voluntary and involves appropriate capital investment.

green sierra Apr 8, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Read this, he said that you are doing it for free, and I replayed its not for free cuz you will get payed to go and commentate in Minsk, you will prob have some free time there too. And about streaming, nah I woudnt pay 2k for setup just to play blitz, better go stream apex or csgo or fortnite and earn for living

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winter swallow Apr 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I don't know if commentators at offlines get paid beyond having expenses covered. €2k setup is multi-functional - but if I weren't streaming I wouldn't need anything more than the laptop and gaming peripherals. Streaming other games is an option for later on but for now I love Blitz as a hobby, playing the game and being part of the community.

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My point of focus though is that I don't believe streaming tournaments gives me an advantage over other game-users. For sure you get more recognition in game which combined with the ER0S tag is basically entering every game green-lit for a YOLO.

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I've had to adapt my playstyle considerably to counter inevitable rushes lol. Back on topic - players in pro tournament are turning the pro avatar off in randoms to avoid the same XD

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Actually I wouldn't even need the laptop as I play Blitz on an iPad Pro (2016) 😂

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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They buffed the Jagdpanzer so if people yolo you anywhere but open ground = gg

thorn shale Apr 8, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Is free cam spectating available in quick tournaments?

winged anchor Apr 8, 2019, 3:37 PM

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For just ur team. You can’t zoom up. But you can now have a caller

thorn shale Apr 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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What is the command for it

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If ur using a macbook

mental yarrow Apr 8, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@thorn shale http://forum.wotblitz.asia/index.php?/topic/17533-spectator-mode-controls/page__fromsearch__1

World of Tanks Blitz Official Asia Forum

Spectator mode controls - eSports Discussions

Spectator mode controls - posted in eSports Discussions:
Hey, tankers!

We are presenting a brief manual on managing the spectator mode for all interested. We hope that it will be useful for you.

Ctrl + V – enter/exit free camera mode

Сtrl + 1...9 – change fre...

thorn shale Apr 8, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I c ty pox

keen oar Apr 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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U c I will stream and commentate na pro tourny if I’m not on one of the team 😏

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:25 PM

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lol

keen oar Apr 8, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I’ve tried doing so a while back when I was taking a break from the team and honestly unless I commit my time into practicing playing with words I enjoy playing the game more than watching people play, especially when u have caller background and sees every mistake on the map >_>

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Random opinion:
In my opinion - All comp tanks that can be used within tournaments, should at least be publicly accessible without any sum of payment, or via exclusive events and such - otherwise they should be offered as an option to everyone, or totally banned from tournaments, as it introduces extra option to those who have the resources to access them and use them - which can be unfair in some cases

median mantle Apr 8, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I don’t disagree^^ (ofc I don’t have t22 in mind)

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 10:35 PM

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they're not on the press accounts for offline tournaments

median mantle Apr 8, 2019, 10:36 PM

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I think he speaks of t22, mk6 etc

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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but if you play quick tournaments to farm credits but don't want to deal with the disaster as tier 8 comp then removing mk6, t-22, 121b, t95e6, m60, the AMX 30 B and soon the Badger are terrible ideas.

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@median mantle Chieftain was not allowed in Seattle MM. people bought them on the press accounts had it taken away. They were also not present in the Twister press accounts

keen oar Apr 8, 2019, 10:38 PM

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As long wg don’t make a tank stand out and make a collector busted I don’t really think those tanks will have a huge impact to the current is-4 meta

median mantle Apr 8, 2019, 10:39 PM

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IMO premium t10 should not be allowed. Or they should be rented (for credits). At least for professionals tournaments.

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:39 PM

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but the M60 was there iirc - so the point sort of stands regardless - and online finals doesn't have such an restriction, so the disparity between rules of online finals and offline finals, will certainly cause some difference

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 10:40 PM

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i can see that happening with the Badger's introduction

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:40 PM

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but I am mainly talking about online finals tbh - any extra unique tank characteristics introduced into the mix as collector or enriched tank behind paywalls will sort of "contaminate" the comp meta

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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i don't remember M60 on either 2017 or 2018 Twister account

median mantle Apr 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Oh I m not sure the badger will be used extensively in turnaments... I will replace e3 at best

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

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@atomic tartan I checked my screenshot on 2018 Twister acc - it was there

atomic tartan Apr 8, 2019, 10:43 PM

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heres the thing about the badger. it can either hold with its armor and pen or push with its armor and dpm

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 10:45 PM

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the Badger imo is a hybrid mix between E3 and 263

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taking the gun of 263 and put it on a E3 level of armor and speed - definitely something unique and should introduce something different

chilly hemlock Apr 8, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@atomic tartan we had to sell our chieftains for Seattle

pale finch Apr 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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t22 mediums are broken

median mantle Apr 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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^^

fringe galleon Apr 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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👆 Agree, its stupid that you can use pay to win tanks in competitive play

fathom tiger Apr 8, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Should be only the tanks everyone has access to use aka techtree tenks only
Pls?

bold kettle Apr 8, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Only allowing tech tree tanks as a rule, not just removing them from press accounts, or tournament battle rentals are good ideas.

signal lagoon Apr 8, 2019, 11:44 PM

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I don’t think there’s a single one of us who isn’t in favor of taking “enriched/premium/collector” tanks out of higher level comp play lol

toxic lintel Apr 8, 2019, 11:45 PM

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at least sell it again, for less than 600$

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 11:46 PM

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@toxic lintel no. they shouldn't cost a single penny to obtain (at least for this specific tournament comp game mode imo)

toxic lintel Apr 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

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wg probably made enough money from the t22 alone and the 0.2% who were willing to buy it to cover all the costs of of twister. They gonna sell again eventually

silver vapor Apr 8, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Your wallet size shouldn't be any part of the factor or equation that decides your competitiveness in tournaments

atomic tartan Apr 9, 2019, 12:56 AM

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you know how Wargaming is with blanket restrictions to this type of thing tho. if you cut premiums and collectors out of tournaments, you ruin tier 6/8 credit farming. which sees a lot more participation at least on NA than tier 10 tourneys

pale finch Apr 9, 2019, 12:58 AM

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The only t10 prem tank that actually bothers me is the T22

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The retarded side armor combined with a trollish hull, skirts made of spaced armor, low profile with a very hard to pen turret and great dpm

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I mean sure there’s the Mk6 but it’s not spectacular for comp, M60 I haven’t seen since years back tbh, 30b will be useless and then there’s the T95E6 which I literally only know 1 comp player who owns, in my eyes a worse E5 xd

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Just realized that I forgot the 121b, nothing to say about it though, meh for comp

dim pivot Apr 9, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Finally, someone who agrees that t22 is broken

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I hate ppl that say "just aim for front hull"
I mean the tanks got the traverse of a medium
And yes i agree with maddox, there shudnt be tanks behind a paywall for comp

timber grotto Apr 9, 2019, 4:36 AM

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@pale finch use the 121b at an offline.... it worked well for hisroyalfatness 😂

peak terrace Apr 9, 2019, 6:54 AM

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When did HisRoyalFatness use a 121B at an offline? @timber grotto

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 7:49 AM

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I agree with @pale finch - the T22 is a strong tank that is unique in terms of what it brings to the table. A team using it has more options open to them compared to a team that hasn't paid to access that product. While a T22 doesn't mean a mid-range team will smash a current Professional Tournament participant team, it does mean that for equally matched teams, the T22 provides another edge. -1- have been using the T22 consistently (and effectively on many maps). They used it versus -W1N- to dominate the A cap on Middleburg in a way that no other tank in game could replicate so effectively ... Plus, as mentioned already, it is just a strong all round tank. IMO, it has introduced a tiny slither of P2W into comp play. The only saving grace is the fact that it is SO limited, it's not influencing too many games.

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I am in favour of all tanks being available to rent (credits or Gold) per match or for a fixed number of games. Sure. You can access the T22, but it will cost you 10,000,000 credits for 50 uses. OR - 3,000 Gold for the duration of your time in the tournament.

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Something like that. Does that sound expensive to you? Hell no. Add up the time and credits invested in grinding a Tier X and that is a fricking bargain for use in comp play.

odd basalt Apr 9, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Containers could also drop rentpolets

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Rentpolets?

odd basalt Apr 9, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Certificates

pale finch Apr 9, 2019, 8:36 AM

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I disagree about the part where you call it limited, EZ- has 1, -1- has 1, RA1D has 2 @winter swallow

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Relatively limited. Still a factor that influences no doubt.

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Asia results so far (Tours 1 -4)

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CIS results so far (Tours 1 - 4)

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EU results so far (Tours 1 - 4)

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NA results so far (Tours 1 - 4)

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glass thunder Apr 9, 2019, 9:28 AM

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both AV teams didnt make it to top 8 lol i think its because of best of3 system also put new non cws map in the big final

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Good teams can plan for new maps.

arctic axle Apr 9, 2019, 9:32 AM

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VOID is coming in strong

glass thunder Apr 9, 2019, 9:33 AM

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still best of 3 system in final is bad

pale finch Apr 9, 2019, 9:33 AM

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I agree but doesn’t change anything now

arctic axle Apr 9, 2019, 9:34 AM

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yeah, best of 5 was a bit better

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I think the only reason they changed it was so that the tournament would take less time

glass thunder Apr 9, 2019, 9:39 AM

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they should remove 15-20m btw rounds i think its useless

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:49 AM

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In the pros?

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Bo5 over 45 minutes just fits if it goes to a tie breaker and games play out to near max time.

glass thunder Apr 9, 2019, 9:50 AM

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no in normal

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 9:52 AM

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that's a yikes for ID

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:55 AM

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Aye, they still have 101AD and FEAST to play too....

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ID really to pick up wins to keep the dream alive... Although Asia is still very open for top 4 slots.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Honestly, I don't see ID getting into top 4 this season

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Same...

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101AD, FEAST, TBT and NUB are arguably front runners at a quick glance.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Even in qualifying stages they didn't feel like a strong team so I had low expectations for them for the season but I didn't see them doing this bad

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 9:58 AM

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I spoke to Mike, apparently ID roster is not same as previous years plus the players present haven't been tremendously active. Can you ocnfirm?

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 10:02 AM

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They still have 7 players from their main team, Gramokson, Ids, Kampon, Nakdo, Larcenist, AMX30B and IM_AFK have been playing with them for years ACTIVEDUTY and Midsummer are fairly new to playing tournaments with them

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ID have never really been a competitively active clan though, they just come alive when any major tournaments come around and use the tournaments a week before to train for it

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:08 AM

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Hmm - seems that approach has finally stopped working.

dim pivot Apr 9, 2019, 10:08 AM

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They aren't the same coz they have compulsory military service, so some of them r gone for 18 months or so, thats whst i've heard
They r from south korea :/

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:08 AM

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@dim pivot that is a hilarious handle.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 10:09 AM

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But tbh I kind of think their roster is kind of unstable, I say they still have 7 players from their main team but that has been over the 3 years of major tourneys coming around so those 7 have played on the main team at one point but all as one I don't think so

dim pivot Apr 9, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Handle?

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Nickname.

dim pivot Apr 9, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Ah lol thx

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Just by watching -TBT- I honestly think they will be top dog this season, but with that being said Asia has kind of surprised me this season with some of the teams' performance so anything is possible at this point.

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Well, TBT and 101AD are on track for top 4. However, the other 6 teams range from 0-2 points. With 10 games left to play, the other 2 top 4 slots could be anyone's if they train right for it.

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Similarly, C4 and MERCY look good for RU top 4, but it's anyone's guess what will happen among the other 6 teams.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 10:20 AM

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101AD is interesting cause half of them are from Team Wombats

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:22 AM

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EU is bit a more clear cut. R2K and EROS are strong. -1- is on a good track but they are losing a lot of rounds, but still delivering wins in matches overall. EZ- and RA1D are probably duking it out for 4th slot. -W1N- could threaten 4th but they need a dramatic performance in the 2nd half of the round robin... plus they need to beat H4PKY and S0ULs 100%.... or it's likely they are out of the running. H4PKY S0ULS will probably not be able to make top 4.

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NA has the big 3 - Void, PRAMO and RGN(r) - RGN(c) and PNCR will duke it out for 4th but RGN(c) are favourites. STR8 are still in it but they've got tough matchups ahead soon....

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VON and HATED beyond not winning matches are struggling to even put rounds on the board.

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oooooh. 101AD part Wombats.... interesting..... Chinese? How they managing to play Asia? @mental yarrow

dim pivot Apr 9, 2019, 10:25 AM

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There r two chinese teams playing asia i think

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@winter swallow They have been playing Asia since before Chinese Twister, I think they just play China for twister cup and then come to Asia for training but idk, could be another reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Interesting. Very interesting.

glass thunder Apr 9, 2019, 10:34 AM

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i think they said that in last twister that the ygot some experiance from playing in asia server

pure marsh Apr 9, 2019, 12:04 PM

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I want tournament'

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:08 PM

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@thorn shale use #560349885879156747 channel please 😃

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@pure marsh we all want tournaments! What kind of tournament do you want?

pure marsh Apr 9, 2019, 12:09 PM

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can anyone select metier6

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:10 PM

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@pure marsh use #tourneys-team-search channel 😃

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 12:12 PM

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I want more tier 10 tournaments with better rewards :>

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:18 PM

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I just did some very quick maths. From March 30 to May 26th I will have done 25 tournament streams. Average duration 2 hours. 50 hours. plus 1.5 hours setup time per stream (publishing event, readying studio = device etc.) + 30mins unsetup time = 50 + 50 = 100 hrs of direct stream related activities. Add in stat tracking, Discord communications and promotion ..... omg. No wonder I feel busy lol

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 12:21 PM

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the sad truth is there simply isn't enough coverage for regions liks NA and Asia - even the players there aren't willing or doesn't possess the skill the commentate on games

pure marsh Apr 9, 2019, 12:23 PM

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/]???I want tournament od tier6

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 12:25 PM

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@pure marsh please use #tourneys-team-search channel once again

pure marsh Apr 9, 2019, 12:25 PM

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okk thanks

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:26 PM

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I hope to cover the Top Echelon Asia.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 12:28 PM

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@winter swallow What time are the Asia games for you?

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Same as Amaunet, 1300 hrs.

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2 EU streams and 1 NA stream over a weekend is already a stretch.

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BUT. 24-25-26 May Top Echelon I will try to do Asia 24 and 25 plus EU and NA 24 25 26.

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72 hours. 8 streams. 💪🏽

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@mental yarrow How come you aren't covering Asia/EU?

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 12:37 PM

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he is in Australia so EU is like 5/6AM or something i forgot - and he does do partial coverage on Asia 🤔

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 12:40 PM

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@winter swallow I do every Thursday and Sunday on Asia, EU tourneys start at 4am for me so it's either I do an all nighter or wake up super early and I don't want to do either of those. Plus I'm busy enough with balancing assignments on top of Asia / NA streams that I don't think I could even do EU

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Fair. I opted to pull the all nighters for NA but had to pass on Asia this time to enable this.

mental yarrow Apr 9, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Yeah it would be tough trying to cover all the servers. I don't even know if my brain would function enough to cast properly

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 1:41 PM

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@primal jolt #tourneys-team-search

green sierra Apr 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Asia tour started?

atomic tartan Apr 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I’d cover NA if I wasn’t playing. Its not very difficult to physically stream tbh

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Personally I watch the streams to watch the gameplay, and all sounds are muted because I watch together with people on voice. All that is physically needed is a running, functional live video

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Afterwards we would go back for the commentary if something spectacular happened and we wanted to see how the streamer reacted, but the first time around is simply to observe/analyze the gameplay, and make fun of 3 monkeys that took like a minute to kill a last HE spamming E 100 on Middleburg.

winter swallow Apr 9, 2019, 3:19 PM

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@atomic tartan Have you ever streamed before?

atomic tartan Apr 9, 2019, 3:19 PM

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In 2016

silver vapor Apr 9, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I would've loved to be streaming them if I wasn't such a hardcore tryhard myself 🙃

keen oar Apr 9, 2019, 5:31 PM

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I stream for next season Berhaps

green plover Apr 9, 2019, 5:33 PM

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no

low badger Apr 9, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I can probably steam the games with some ow friends

keen oar Apr 9, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@green plover wdym no I will never make to an offline and playing blitz is like literally wasting my life at this point

green plover Apr 9, 2019, 5:54 PM

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u dont know that

keen oar Apr 9, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Jajajajajaja

thorn shale Apr 9, 2019, 10:59 PM

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@dry dew wrong channel mate

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Post in #off-topic-discussion if you feel the need

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 9, 2019, 11:26 PM

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dynoSuccess СЕРГЕЙ#2314 was muted

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dynoSuccess krasnii_kv#8908 has been warned.

rose lava Apr 10, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Can we do a scrim tonight

rain heron Apr 10, 2019, 5:42 AM

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So, so I'm clear about how Tournaments work, when I sign up for one, all I need to be able to do is play my matches when they're scheduled? Do I have to find people to team up with or will it just make teams from any rando that signs up?

arctic axle Apr 10, 2019, 5:43 AM

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@rain heron are you talking quick tourneys or ascend tourneys?

Also you have to invite people to your team. If you have 6 played (for example) on your team, you will not get a seventh member randomly.

rain heron Apr 10, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Uhhh quick, I guess. I wasn't aware there was a difference between the two. First time seriously looking at tourneys.

arctic axle Apr 10, 2019, 5:47 AM

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yes, you will play matches when they are scheduled. And also yes, you have to find people who you will team up with

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 5:47 AM

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@rain heron you will need to construct your team on your own. Find a few people that might be interested to play together in the same time

rain heron Apr 10, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Alright. Thanks, guys.

versed field Apr 10, 2019, 6:41 AM

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luf

upper sky Apr 10, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Hello everyone

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Question- what improvements can people suggest to the format of the Professionals Tournament? (Not the qualifiers)

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 1:20 PM

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all round wins would matter, not just the win versus an opponent
losing all games 2-3 and ending with 0 points when someone gains 1 point by winning once 3-2 and rest of the games 0-3
¯_(ツ)_/¯

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 1:21 PM

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3 days per week that separate a bit further - probably Monday, Thursday, Saturday or Tuesday, Friday, Sunday or any other combination - trying to prepare for Saturday and Sunday opponent but the schedule is so close - you have to give some up

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@fathom tiger I'd be in favour of a scoring system like this:

3:0 or 3:1 win = 3pts winner 0pts loser
3:2 win = 2pts winner 1pt loser

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 1:37 PM

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that looks nice as well

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 1:37 PM

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If we take EU as case study, even scoring by rounds, the ranking doesn't change.

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There's just a split between teams currently tied for certain places.

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fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 1:39 PM

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making it more accurate

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 1:39 PM

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However, with the scoring system I propose, we would see a slight shuffle.

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Actually, no shuffle, just clearer again. lol

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wait also S0Uls would be 4

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 1:51 PM

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0 score is definitely discouraging for teams like ID when they lose close games like that

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it also sort of reliefs pressure for tie breakers since it's not all or nothing at that point - it's just more or less points

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Eh I like all or nothing

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The main thing I’d like for Pro Tourney to improve is rewards

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Reward tanks/new camos/clan camos/etc is what we need

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I'm pondering the structure itself, rather than scoring/rewards (which can both be improved IMO) - in particular I am seeing parallels across all servers and between Twister 2018 and Pros 2019. Yes still early days in the Pros but already there is a big gap between top teams and lower teams. IDK how they feel about it, but when a team goes into their 6th day of Round Robins at like 2-8..... what motivation is there to play knowing you won't make top 4? I think prizes should be stratified so that even finishing 7th is greatly preferred over finishing 8th etc.

Obviously making the Pros is AWESOME. But as I see it, once you are out of the running for the top 4 you are dedicated to playing for pride rather than any actual reward.

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 2:01 PM

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is there even rewards for 5th-8th places?

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 2:01 PM

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You could structure it similar to the English Championship in football. Have the top 3 teams make it automatically to the knockout rounds. And have 7-4 place compete in their own 4 man knockout bracket, with the winner taking the final spot in the Final Four @winter swallow. Would incentivize everyone to not finish last, and would greatly increase overall competitiveness in the group matches between the teams that don’t have a chance to make top 3

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@fathom tiger yep

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Gold and credits

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And season coin thingies

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I like that idea to be honest. But maybe have it linked to matches won. Win more than 10 matches = auto top 4. Win more than X matches = playoff for remaining slot(s).

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Looking at Twister 2018 scores, maybe Over 10 wins for auto top 4, and over 5 wins for separate playoff.

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EU Twister 2018 (T18) = 3 in and 3 playoff.

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NA T18 = 2 in and 4 playoff
RU T18 = 3 in and 2 playoff
Asia T18 = 2 in and 4 playoff

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Actually, raise the bar to 7 wins for playoff.

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0-49% wins = out.
50-70% wins = playoff

70% wins = auto into top 4

@thorn shale

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Although that still technically screws lower teams.... nah. it don't work.

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Possibly top 3 = auto into top 4. Ranks 4-6 into the playoff. If you make it 4-7 it takes too much emphasis off the round robin stage.

pale finch Apr 10, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Yeah, all or nothing @thorn shale, I agree

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:26 PM

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@pale finch what about the playoff concept for 4th place for teams ranked 4-6th?

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I think the top 8 double RR is less problem than Qualifiers Grand Finals being BO3

pale finch Apr 10, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Nah it is fine the way it is

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Bo3 is god awful. Bo5 minimum IMO.

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Yah, there aren’t really any huge issues with the current format for the professionals final stage

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:27 PM

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BO3 isn't that horrible for the stages before - but the Final match should be BO5 at least - no matter what

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:27 PM

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But the fact that there are single elimination tournaments that are BO3 is complete frickin garbage

pale finch Apr 10, 2019, 2:28 PM

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There's no need to try to rework or influence a working concept when there are many other aspects that should be improved

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Disagree. It's an element that could be relatively easily refined based on lessons learned from soon to be two tournaments over 4 servers using the same structure.

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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idk what we can refine tho, what is the goal we are trying to achieve?

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Bo3 in early strongest vs. weakest stages makes sense logistically. Strongest vs. weakest in the final stages of the qualifiers also reasonable at Bo3... but I think this could stretched to Bo5. The grand finals ofthe qualifiers had some really closely matched opponents on all severs. Bo3 isn't as effective at sorting skill as compared to Bo5. Low numbers of rounds = higher degrees of randomness. Increased rounds (replicates) reduces random influences. Basic scientific methodology.

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The goal in qualifiers is to get the best representation of a servers top X teams into the next tournament. Twister 2016 qualifiers were bad because good teams knocked each other out early due to random MM (not strongest vs weakest).

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The recent pro qualifiers were OK - but some strong teams were eliminated in the Bo3 format. The end result is the current Pros (top 8) may not be the best representation of the top 8 teams in actuality.

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Why is this important? A better formulated top 8 results in better competition and more closely fought matches (less auto win auto loss match scenarios) .

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:37 PM

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then what we should be refining should be the qualifier - not top 8 right?

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Group Stage Qualifiers Round: Bo3
Qualifiers finals: Bo7
Pro Season group stage: Bo5
Pro season final stage upper bracket: Bo7
Pro season final stage lower bracket Bo5
Pro season grand finals: Bo11

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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The system can never be perfect, but i think we should always endeavour to improve it where possible.

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Lol

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Bo11

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😂

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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BO11 is a joke

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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WoT PC offlines had very high BoX numbers.

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:38 PM

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The grand finals are the only game on that day, so there's plenty of time for a Bo11

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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And too high BoX is boring for viewers

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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too long tbh

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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And too long for players

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Bo9 is fine as is

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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90 minutes is too long 😂

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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as many games as possible pls

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Bo5 takes 45 mins max. Bo9 is 90 minutes max.

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Consider other esports titles and their game durations.

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:40 PM

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If people think a Bo11 which lasts about 90 mins is long, imagine a 6 hour offline tournament

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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BO9 is probably the maximum number before it goes too long for everyone

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I like the BO9 format on PC

silver vapor Apr 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I played BO9 in Asia Spring Season last year - it was tiring yet thrilling

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I think for well matched teams, Bo5 should be the minimum.

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I think Bo9 is 'good enough'. But the grand finals should be as long as reasonably possible

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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PC GF is BO13 I think

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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With 10 minute games ^

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Just over 2 hours game time. That isn't that much. Compare it to LoL ... lol?

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Well, I like watching the WGL EU streams on YouTube; even on PC, those are usually about an hour for BO9, and about 1.5 hours for BO13

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And that’s PC with 10 minute games; Blitz is significantly quicker. They just need to get rid of the long waiting time between battles

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There’s no reason for Blitz to have these ridiculous 2 minute waiting times between battles at higher level games. It should be 30s tops

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Time between battles is currently 90 seconds?

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I'd say 1 minute max. Comfortable to switch tanks and overview strats. Plus gives players a chance to cool-down

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:46 PM

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30s is way to short, nobody would have time to go over anything and there would definitely be people in the wrong tanks

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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happy with the discussion he started

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:47 PM

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45s then; but 90 is just way too long

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I feel anything less than 1 minute will put too much pressure on players between matches for tank selection.

signal lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 2:48 PM

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At higher level tournaments, all the strats should already be rehearsed. Most of the time the teams are readied up pretty much in 15s

bold kettle Apr 10, 2019, 2:49 PM

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I don't know if this goes for everyone, but I like to change equipment between battles and have a moment to grab a drink and refocus

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Also for casters, a bit of time to be talking a tiny bit slower goes a long way XD

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

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the 30s waiting time wayyyyy too short

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1 min is long enough for me atleast just to get to the carage and pick a tank for the next game

mental yarrow Apr 10, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Yeah 30s leaves with very little room to play with and there would be some errors. Either 1m or 90s would be just fine

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Also Chinese server had a BO15 at one stage which I thought was pretty interesting

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

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??!?!!?!?!??! - how do you know this? @mental yarrow

mental yarrow Apr 10, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I have a chinese account and occasionally look at their tourneys

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 3:05 PM

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👀

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 3:06 PM

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How does one acquire a Chineseish account?

mental yarrow Apr 10, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Well you're iOS so you gotta make a chinese apple account and then I have instructions in a photo saved somewhere that I'll send in dm

winter swallow Apr 10, 2019, 3:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-guaxinim-hehehe-treta-gif-9962946

Tenor

glass thunder Apr 10, 2019, 3:17 PM

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best of 7 is the best i think

thorn shale Apr 10, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Hello

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Magyarok nyomunk egy tourt

fathom tiger Apr 10, 2019, 6:08 PM

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no u

eternal breach Apr 10, 2019, 6:35 PM

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A big f

atomic tartan Apr 10, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Bo11 💀💀💀 yes offline tournaments are 6 hours but you don’t spend the entire time bashing your heads against the same exact team over and over again

brittle dagger Apr 10, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Hi guys

flat granite Apr 11, 2019, 4:07 AM

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hi men

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Interesting discussions here agree with @winter swallow and @silver vapor points. The pro quali was too limited to determine who has best possibilities to fight in top 8. The current round robin is not motivating to play through for those that are early out of top 4.

I would like add the ascent assesment: the tour system in ascent is ok with many games and possibilities to fight for the top 8. Echelon tour. But the rewards are meh and the dead end in Echelon is demotivating. The best team(s) from Ascent/Echelon final would be inspired of a second chance

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 8:14 AM

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I think the quali format is good for finding out the best top tier teams. But doesn't filtertop 8 well enough. The pro format is fine if you are chasing top 4 but sucks for teams as soon as they hit the point where they know they cannot qualify for the top 4. You need at least 7 wins to even stand a chance to make top 4. If you get to a point too early on where you can't make 7 wins / at a point when a team is clearly outclassed by pro opponents and by any sane estimate, won't rack up enough points.... IDK. It isn't fun for them IMO nor rewarding.

Perhaps places 5 and 6 in the pros could get an invite to the Top Echelon?

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But then there's the issues with wild cards and optimal routes to offliensetc.

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For example, a team could "opt" to aim for 5th/6th place to have a "better" shot at making the offlines via wildcard rather than facing R2K, EROS, -1- etc. in a top 4 DE format.

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Plus 2nd palce in pro like format typically gets invite to wildcard format.... so then if too many teams from pros can run for wildcard it undermines the ascent and echelon chase.

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:24 AM

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nah i dont like that format, the best should be rewarded. wild cards are not something i like to begin with, imo its silly a silly concept to reward clans that doesnt make it by any eventual wildcard tournaments, its simply undeserved imo.

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the tournamnet format is fine the way it is right now, i agree the grand finals could defo be made bo11 and i also agree on the fact that bo3 is a disgrace for the grand finals of the qualifiers, could be smth like bo5 or even bo7 to make it more " fair "

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btw there are some really interesting games on NA tonight, will they be streamed or not? @mental yarrow im tagging you because i assume that youll know xD

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 8:42 AM

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@pale finch I'll be streaming void vs rgn then void vs pramo

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:42 AM

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Thats quality, im looking forward to that

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:42 AM

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On twitch or YouTube? @mental yarrow

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 8:42 AM

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Yeah should be some good matches, I'm looking forward to them as well 👌
@flint copper On YouTube but if you watch it on the WG portal you can earn coins 😉

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Ok

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:44 AM

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we also have some spicy games tonight that will be aired by amaunet ^^

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:44 AM

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When is the stream?

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:45 AM

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NA stream starts at 20:00 texan time i assume, EU stream at 20:00 cest

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Hmm so I'm guessing in about 6hrs?

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 8:46 AM

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The games for Asia are in about 2 hours

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:47 AM

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K

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:47 AM

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no, EU is in 9 hours and NA in ( i think ) 16 hours

flint copper Apr 11, 2019, 8:48 AM

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K

glass thunder Apr 11, 2019, 9:11 AM

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today some big games r2k vs eros and raid

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Ye

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Void vs rgn main team and pramo is also big games

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 9:45 AM

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Aye, today is definitely one of the most exciting days for EU and NA servers in terms of match-ups. I will be covering EU but not NA. I ntheory, I am following -W1N- vs. H4PKY and S0ULS tonight.

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sniped @median mantle

median mantle Apr 11, 2019, 9:45 AM

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Ok, u were faster 😉

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 9:55 AM

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EU starts 8pm CEST (8 hours from now). NA starts 9pm ET (15 hours from now) - @pale finch is correct.

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 10:03 AM

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@pale finch tour system might be perfect if you happen to be in top4 early. You also will enjoy the luxury of easier opponents. I think in some earlier tour some clan just stopped playing after they realized mission impossible. That is not a good outcome

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 10:08 AM

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The league system is viable in physical sports because of promotion/relegation mechanics. When there is no reward for playing in a league after a certain point, it ceases to be an effective tournament structure. The Pros are a very very short league of sorts, but as soon as a team can't make the top 4 there is little incentive to continue playing. Yes, there are some nominal prizes of credits and coins etc. but really, no one at this level cares about credits/could earn credits easier by playing randoms.

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If not changing the progression system to top 4, perhaps prizes could be enhanced to create added value to finishing in places 5,6,7,8 - alternatively, results in tournaments such as this could have meaningful implications for the next batch of qualifiers / other tournaments.

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Or run one round robin, then cut group in half

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 10:11 AM

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I think that is too crude. Look at Twister 2018 progression in following Excel.

📎 Overlord.xlsx

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On Asia, FEAST would have been knocked out. They went on to win it.

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Sad :<

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Mby system not that bad but some minor changes needed. Most important not good with one qualifier game to whole tour is dependent on bo3, where outcome is beside teamskill is due to sudden irl, rng, ping or you name it

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Yeah i think everyone agrees quali grand finals need to be higher than Bo3

glass thunder Apr 11, 2019, 10:40 AM

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the one who make the cws system should play them or have experience by following them

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 10:48 AM

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how about rock, paper, scissors about who wins the games?

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 10:49 AM

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lol

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 11:03 AM

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RPSLS is legit what happens during the lineup phase.

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

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the big bang theory version right?

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/ufc-rock-paper-scissors-joke-silly-win-gif-4970573

Tenor

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

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spockwins

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 11:05 AM

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lizard poisons spock and paper disproves him.

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 11:05 AM

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spock still wins 😁

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 11:07 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/spock-star-trek-hood-gif-5625136

Tenor

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In other news, this is a PSA to all Blitz esports viewers to use the like button more:

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Ah, this is a limitation ofthe portal system i guess...

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 11:12 AM

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i'd like to be watching but gotta study 😭

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smash that like button!

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 12:18 PM

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@mental yarrow @leaden belfry - What is happening on Asia 😂 - there are 5 teams tied for 4th place

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 12:19 PM

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OwO

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gonna be hard to say who's gonna get into top4

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 12:20 PM

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TBT need 2 more wins over the next 8 matches. They are in. I mean, they'd have to completely fail to miss top 4 with a 6-0 record.

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@vital obsidian Your cut susggestion doesn't work here lol

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Asia likes to keep things interesting I guess

glass thunder Apr 11, 2019, 12:23 PM

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feast players looks they are pc players they had problmes to pen is4

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Cut 1/3

dreamy adder Apr 11, 2019, 12:31 PM

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wut u study @fathom tiger

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 12:32 PM

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trying to get into law school so gotta study for the entrance exam

gleaming pollen Apr 11, 2019, 12:33 PM

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So You're going to become boring

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Can’t become boring if you’re already boring

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 12:34 PM

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@mental yarrow NA likes to get to the point 😎

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 12:50 PM

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I guess we'll see tomorrow if void get straight to the point then 😉

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Oof

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 1:12 PM

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SlUrP

dreamy adder Apr 11, 2019, 1:52 PM

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lol @glass thunder

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:11 PM

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@mental yarrow I like ur voice sounds v cute now shut and kiss me

low badger Apr 11, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Yoooooo where’s my smooch

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Pp

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@mental yarrow stream von on sunday PLEASE I'll do anything I beg

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I'm streaming PNCR

vapid lion Apr 11, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I think this is super cool

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:21 PM

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@mental yarrow hopefully your game client isn’t possessed this time around 😅

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I switched clients now so we're all good except the windows store gives me like 5% packet loss but I guess it's a good enough trade off for 10fps

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Ah that’s good

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I felt bad for you watching the Von stream

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That random FPS dip is painful

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Yeah not gonna lie I was getting pretty frustrated with it and it sucks that's the kind of quality I had to deal with for my first stream for the spring season. I don't know what is wrong with the steam client but I don't trust it anymore

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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It’s definitely a shame, especially because it was out of your control

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But I’m hopeful this stream will be problem free 😄

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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dynoSuccess TheTingGoes_ESA#2975 has been warned.

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@pallid raven rephrase that so it’s not insulting

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“I’m surprised by results of X games” is a better way to say

pallid raven Apr 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I thought ID and Feast would be winning most of their games

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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👌

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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you thought

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Wrong

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Asia is in a new era
(about time as well)

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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dynoSuccess _GIory#4277 was muted

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I’ll be watching the stream to see how you play @pale finch

solid widget Apr 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Hello

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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dynoSuccess _Z1RD#1701 has been warned.

thorn shale Apr 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@solid widget chat in #off-topic-discussion or #general-blitz-discussion

solid widget Apr 11, 2019, 2:40 PM

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What

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I watched the pixelrage stream and it surprised me by the way Asia plays

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Go to those channels for general discussion if it isn't tournament related @solid widget

solid widget Apr 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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God

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Very aggressive performance especially by tbt

solid widget Apr 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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👌

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By

mental yarrow Apr 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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TBT is really taking the aggressive approach this season and I love it, teams are going to have to actually think about how they are going to counter TBT cause really one way or another they are gonna get pushed. Kind of reminds me of like 2016/2017 when everyone was being aggressive

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and TBT are really the first team to be consistently aggressive in every match in Asia in a long time so hopefully that new meta picks up in Asia, should be interesting

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Yes looking forward to watching more

eternal breach Apr 11, 2019, 3:05 PM

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do chinese servers have tournyes

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 3:07 PM

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yes

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 3:08 PM

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yt link ?

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 3:09 PM

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YT banned in CHina

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 3:15 PM

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twitch?

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 3:21 PM

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they have their own streaming platforms - but I am not sure of whether there is any streaming or not

vital obsidian Apr 11, 2019, 3:25 PM

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but they have replays?

minor sierra Apr 11, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Well, the participation teams for second ascent tournament was less than the first one. 😩

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 4:16 PM

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@winter swallow kill me already - we lost so horribly when the games could've been won 😭

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 4:21 PM

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You still got a good shot at getting in top 4 since 5 teams are tied @silver vapor

fringe galleon Apr 11, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Losing sucks

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I wanna shoot myself so bad 😭

silver vapor Apr 11, 2019, 4:40 PM

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@green plover yeah I am planning to pull off the same thing we did at twister - chase 5 points with the 8 remaining games 😂 if we can pull it off once we should be able to pull it off twice 🍵

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Goodluck

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Energy levels for tonight = 0.001 My working week is killing me lol

keen oar Apr 11, 2019, 5:44 PM

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@winter swallow no worries we gotcha 😄

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 5:50 PM

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inhales coffee - let's go.

keen oar Apr 11, 2019, 5:50 PM

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👍

eternal breach Apr 11, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Like unlike normal crates its physically impossible to get the a32

winged anchor Apr 11, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Unlike 🤔

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 6:31 PM

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does that mean im getting coins?

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cant see the coin counter anywhere even tho im logged in

green plover Apr 11, 2019, 6:37 PM

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@pale finch ggs b

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It should be at the top of the page @fathom tiger

faint scaffoldBOT Apr 11, 2019, 7:32 PM

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dynoSuccess Mateusz_hunter_XD#5748 has been warned.

pallid raven Apr 11, 2019, 7:38 PM

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@fathom tiger I dont think it does, There should be a time counter

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I have watched every stream and gotten no coins or avatars

winter swallow Apr 11, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Eu server after Tour 6.

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arctic axle Apr 11, 2019, 7:40 PM

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i have watched the streams and have gotten my coins (still waiting for todays coins as it takes a while at least for me) but have never gotten the avatar even though I am sure I have watched more than 60 mins. I just got them

pallid raven Apr 11, 2019, 8:07 PM

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nvm I finally got it after 5 nights

nova aspen Apr 11, 2019, 8:40 PM

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@everyone

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 8:49 PM

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@green plover ty

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Got a heart attack twice

robust crane Apr 11, 2019, 9:10 PM

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😭

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I’m defo staying up to watch the NA stream tonight I’m freaking hyped

fringe galleon Apr 11, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Wp today Zird very nice games

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Thank you, very close and stressful

fringe galleon Apr 11, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Tie breakers are fun to watch when you know how stressful is it to play 🤣 But when you win the feeling is awesome

pale finch Apr 11, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Oh yeah it’s also nice to hear the reactions from your teammates xD

fathom tiger Apr 11, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Think about the guy in your team sitting on the bench unable to watch the games, just hearing the voices

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That's how i define stressfull in blitz
¯_(ツ)_/¯

wild wigeon Apr 11, 2019, 11:49 PM

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I want a group

winged anchor Apr 12, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Coins stopped counting at 132. Guess I’m one of the whiners now

mental yarrow Apr 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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It's a strange system, even if you are watching it, it counts the tab as inactive and will stop counting coins

thorn shale Apr 12, 2019, 2:35 AM

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@mental yarrow nice stream tonight mate

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Thx for covering the games 😉

eternal breach Apr 12, 2019, 2:40 AM

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it works well on pc. You just have to have the tab open on screen so I just min in the corner

mental yarrow Apr 12, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Yeah no worries, definitely enjoyed streaming the matches and they were super entertaining and exciting.

eternal breach Apr 12, 2019, 2:55 AM

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so @mental yarrow streamers get nothing for streaming? Not even the season coins?

mental yarrow Apr 12, 2019, 2:55 AM

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We get coins if we watch on the portal

eternal breach Apr 12, 2019, 2:59 AM

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ik that but u cant stream and watch at the same time coz its from youtube right?

green plover Apr 12, 2019, 3:07 AM

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@mental yarrow thanks for streaming

mental yarrow Apr 12, 2019, 3:57 AM

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No worries 👌

thorn shale Apr 12, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Csao magyarok...

winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 6:43 AM

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@eternal breach More tasks open on PC = more load on processor. When I am streaming I typically have Blitz, OBS, 2 YouTube tabs (YouTube for music and my own stream for chat), StratSketch, Tournment table (WoTB website), Nahimic, Excel and Discord running over 3 screens for the best part of 2 hours.

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Having the portal open while possible is just another thing to manage/worry about. I'd rather focus on delivering the stream.

silver vapor Apr 12, 2019, 7:25 AM

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😩

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all other teams doing so nicely - we are just rolling our heads around meanwhile

thorn shale Apr 12, 2019, 7:48 AM

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When will stream be 😐???

silver vapor Apr 12, 2019, 7:56 AM

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@thorn shale depending on which region you are at

fathom tiger Apr 12, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Next streams gona be tomorrow

winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Yep.

median mantle Apr 12, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Some nice battles we had yesterday on the EU server. Gg @pale finch

silver vapor Apr 12, 2019, 8:58 AM

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😫

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you guys sure to be having tons of fun there - it's more like a big mess on our sides

winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 9:12 AM

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IDK - Asia still very open for anyone to make Top 4. RU EU and NA all closing out certain teams and some looking 100% to make the cut.

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Asia seems to be have the most even playing field among it's Professionals Tournament.

silver vapor Apr 12, 2019, 9:19 AM

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I feel like Asia is just like kids' playground - all the mistakes being made by everyone and losing those games that should've been won

mental yarrow Apr 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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git gud scrub

flint copper Apr 12, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Lol

silver vapor Apr 12, 2019, 9:32 AM

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@mental yarrow come help rig kthx

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but I am seriously about to stab myself if the same happens tomorrow night

chilly terrace Apr 12, 2019, 9:50 AM

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The part of players could face issue 502 on April 11 when they were watching broadcast on our portal tournament page. As a result of this issue accruing of season coins was suspended.

Season coins, that were received before occurrence of issue 502, were accrued fully.

The reasons of this issue have already been found and fixed. Nevertheless, If you face this issue again and you stop to get season coins, we recommend you to reload the web-page with broadcast.

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winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 11:00 AM

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For those of you wondering about the joys of Tournament gameplay, see this PERFECT example of sharing HP pools. #ShieldYourTeamMates

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@leaden belfry you will approve.

gleaming pollen Apr 12, 2019, 2:25 PM

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@formal jetty your soon famous u should take your camera out.

arctic axle Apr 12, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@winter swallow unfortunately that is only for tourneys. If it was a random battle someone will be pushing you forward so you die faster

winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Well this is the tournaments thread.

formal jetty Apr 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Yey. My 15 minutes of fame.

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@gleaming pollen I got a few friend requests already.

fathom tiger Apr 12, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Xd

pale finch Apr 12, 2019, 3:51 PM

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im still shook over last nights games lmao

burnt ingot Apr 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Lol they where some pretty good ones

fathom tiger Apr 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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screw studying imma watch 'em now

winter swallow Apr 12, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@pale finch a lot of "upsets" and odd scores from all servers. I theorised to a mate it might be due to the fact games were on a week night. People have school/work, less tiem to prepare and maybe more otherthings on their minds - more tired etc. - valid possibility you think?