it is op
#rating-battles
odd bronze
queen socket
Unless you dont know how to aim at weak spots it's not op
median wagon
It is not OP š
mossy badger
u think they gonna let u aim at their weakspots
median wagon
2 cupolas, always at least one to shoot at
odd bronze
@median wagon go play lowe in ratings if lowe can beat 252 u easily
median wagon
On a 1 on 1 fight, yes it would beat it
blissful portal
M6Exp can beat it also... At least i dont have a problem with them
median wagon
M6 EXP is tall
odd bronze
@agile sphinx essay ready?
blissful portal
@median wagon thats why
tall berry
M6 has it's turret ring easily pennable
mossy badger
M6 is uhhhhh no
queen socket
Good untill a t49 flanks u
blissful portal
@tall berry yeah turret weak spot is bad but if you know hpw to wiggle you can get bounces
agile sphinx
Tournaments favour tanks which can be made to be impenetrable or virtually impenetrable like the 252, 112-2 (apparently, no personal experience), IS4, caern, E3 (to a lesser extent because if easy splash), and tanks that you are controlled by RNG, like the T22 and the 252s side.
In ratings it's better to play a mobile tank like the Chrysler, tiger 2, 50 100, or maybe something like the IS3 defender
@odd bronze Have a little patience and it's a pretty dissappointing essay š
tall berry
Im not talking about the turret, im talking about the ring, wiggling is useless š
vapid gazelle
Another problem with m6exp is the tracks.Even if u sligtly angle goes through everytime
blissful portal
@queen socket oof yes smasher, isu or t49 will HE its side... Wont be good
mossy badger
T32 > T34 > M6 EXP for ratings
median wagon
M6 EXP only gets troll turret bounces
odd bronze
@agile sphinx admit 252 u is still op and cupolas are not ez pen either
tall berry
More than half of tier 8 players dont know about the turret ring š¤£
median wagon
The cupolas are 150mm thick, so how is that OP?
queen socket
It's not op. Its close but not there yet
blissful portal
@odd bronze thats true cupolas arent ez to pen they are small, but its lower plate not so difficult to pen
median wagon
The cupolas arenāt even that small
odd bronze
as if cupolas are huge and always visible , u always stayy still , u dont have mobility , u dont shoot back , sure 252 u is not op
queen socket
Most players cant hide the lower plate
median wagon
Ah how about 252uās trash gun?
agile sphinx
Cupolas are definitely not an easy pen but I don't think it's quite op. It's good at holding but in a push it seems fairly weak. It seems to be a fairly good all-rounder if you play passively.
None of this is coming from personal experience btw only what I've come against
queen socket
The gun is good....
median wagon
Never, only advantage is +20 alpha and AP as standard
mossy badger
ur supposed to play close range its good enough
queen socket
It always works for me tho
blissful portal
I dont have 252 so i cant talk about its gun lol
odd bronze
ok , 252 is not op , it is ok , sure ,
median wagon
And it has apcr as premium shell, meaning using calibrated is not that good
tall berry
haha boom
copper mauve
balance 100
queen socket
Russian bias
median wagon
We have the same camo
lime sparrow
252u balanced
odd bronze
@median wagon apcr is better than HEAT , it has 2 degress of normalization and can cut through spaced armor
tall berry
balanced
lime sparrow
very balanced
median wagon
Ah so is Type 59 op because it can do those type of shots?
copper mauve
yes
odd bronze
main thing about 252 u is its armor and ofc mobility
median wagon
APCR is not better than heat
lime sparrow
It's better in different scenarios
tall berry
Ye
odd bronze
for me apcr is better than HEAT and AP is best shell ign for me
median wagon
APCR is not worth that trash penetration loss plus is gets smaller calibrated boost
odd bronze
maps are smoll too
lime sparrow
least it doesnt get eaten by drivewheels
wind whale
Me in every 252u balanced discussions
lime sparrow
they tech aren't same distance apart
wind whale
Lol
agile sphinx
@wind whale Now use a tier 8 and see how red the IS7 is and how the 252 still looks the same
queen socket
Show what tank shot at it
copper mauve
prob a Japanese tank judging by the prammo
queen socket
Use a t9 or t8 but not a tank with the best pen in teir
odd bronze
hori with prammo
wind whale
Show what tank shot at it
@queen socket tier 10 Ho-Ri with prammo
@wind whale Now use a tier 8 and see how red the IS7 is and how the 252 still looks the same
@agile sphinx IS-7 should be really red to tier 8s, that doesnāt confirm anything, just that the IS-7 has balanced armor
queen socket
Ik but it will be a better comparison to show the tanks it actually goes against
agile sphinx
And all that screenshot shows is that the 252 has autobounce plates, if you show it against an arl with a tank with about 160-170mm of pen you could say the arl has better armour than the 252. Your comparison is just completely useless.
queen socket
And you can easily shoot the lower plate
wind whale
And all that screenshot shows is that the 252 has autobounce plates, if you show it against an arl with a tank with about 160-170mm of pen you could say the arl has better armour than the 252. Your comparison is just completely useless.
@agile sphinx obj 252u user detected
And you can easily shoot the lower plate
@queen socket because good players are always showing their lower plates around
queen socket
Well your comparing the armor from that picture
And not using a tank that it actually goes up against
white spruce
Yes, that makes sense. What if rating time will be limited like quick tournaments now? Several hours in several days per week, so all players will play at the same time
@shrewd jasper well uh what about the people who also want to do QTs...
wind whale
That picture is supposed to compare the armor profile between obj252 and is7 in the eyes of the BEST pen in the entire game
Last tournament finals, streamed by WG. Case closed.
My point: premium and collectors should not be allowed in ratings and tournaments
odd bronze
100% agree about last part
glossy raptor
Then wg would sell less tanks
tall berry
Premium tanks and collectors should be allowed in ratings because it's pubs
wind whale
Then wg would sell less tanks
@glossy raptor not really, those kind of things make veterans leave the game
glossy raptor
Well, no
agile sphinx
@queen socket because good players are always showing their lower plates around
@wind whale I don't own it and don't want to it looks painfully boring to play š¤¦āāļø Maybe try getting some useful points instead of stupid comparisons?
glossy raptor
@wind whale veterans like prem tanks and as long as they can use them everywhere theyre happy
wind whale
@wind whale I don't own it and don't want to it looks painfully boring to play š¤¦āāļø Maybe try getting some useful points instead of stupid comparisons?
@agile sphinx no need for attacks, bud. Also, that screenshot belongs to someone inside the best clans in NA right now. Iām using it because well, makes sense. If you think that everything should be butter (all tier 10, 9 and BLA BLA BLA) to Ho-Riās premium round besides the obj252u, idc
@wind whale veterans like prem tanks and as long as they can use them everywhere theyre happy
@glossy raptor im playing this for 6 years and almost 80% of the people I know back then gave up on the game. Regularly customers.
queen socket
And your showing the obj 252 in a auto ricochet zone. For top hull
agile sphinx
Who it belongs to doesn't matter if it's useless then it's useless š¤·āāļø What about it makes sense? You are literally showing that the IS7 doesn't have autobounce plates and the 252 does. I am also fairly sure that there is a reason the 252 is shown from a lower perspective as well. Funnily enough the 252 is butter to the ho ris prammo, there is just a small, easily avoidable bit of red in it.
median wagon
And for such a great upper plate it has to have a giant lower plate
glossy raptor
@wind whale Ive also played for 6 years and sure i didnt have any friends back so i dont know how many have quit but im pretty sure most people quit cuz they are bored on the game and not cuz of prem tanks
median wagon
Probably because they started to focus on so many premiums
wind whale
@glossy raptor that screenshot I sent here practically says that if we want to have a shot in the tournament, we have to open our wallets. So, why bother playing it?
glossy raptor
You can get that gold for free
agile sphinx
And here we see blatant and definive proof that the ARL is better than the 252u. You can see how the 252s armour might as well be paper compared to how strong the ARLs is, and the ARL is two tiers lower. (Many thanks to @median wagon for helping with the screenshots btw)
See how this shows nothing? @wind whale
wind whale
Iām sure youāre using a 380mm penetration gun
agile sphinx
Why would I? This is a better comparison if anything because the gun that it is (prize for the first one to guess of nothing) can see both tanks within normal matchmaking. Your example is almost never going to appear within games, but still the penetration doesn't matter what it shows does right? @wind whale
sacred verge
@agile sphinx ARL 44 still get's HE'd at the side by KV-2 XD
lean zenith
252 has the classic russian black hole sides
wind whale
Why would I? This is a better comparison if anything because the gun that it is (prize for the first one to guess of nothing) can see both tanks within normal matchmaking. Your example is almost never going to appear within games, but still the penetration doesn't matter what it shows does right? @wind whale
@agile sphinx basically state that doesnāt matter the gun, Obj252u has an OP hull. To every tank.
queen socket
Bruh only if you dont aim
lean zenith
just swap the is7 and 252 lmao.
agile sphinx
ARLs hull is better so the arl is even more broken though? And it's a tier 6? Or does your picture that you sent earlier show nothing?
The 252s armour is only strong if you can't aim. As posit1ve has said a little while ago, the 252 is only better when cover is between the top of the upper plate and the bottom of the IS3s turret. In every other place the IS3s armour is better. It also has a better gun, and is more mobile
white spruce
252u has many letdowns and the only real reason it is spammed in tournaments is because of its armor. Gun accuracy is a 122mm and everything else about it is meh.
wind whale
I give up. Compare to anything in tier 10 and youāll see how strong that thing is. Use real guns to compare as well. Even Maus, IS-4, E3 are brought to butter.
white spruce
Youāre saying a Maus is easy pickings for an Object 252U
Erm
agile sphinx
The 252 literally only has those two plates of armour as its positives. That's it. It also has hp but so does every heavy. It has a gaping and laughably bad lower plate as well.
@sacred verge No it doesn't. 380mm with a 230mm bottom plate is much much better than 460mm with a 155mm bottom plate, especially when that bottom plate is as big as it is
wind whale
Youāre saying a Maus is easy pickings for an Object 252U
Erm
@white spruce Iām saying that every heavy tank in tier 10 has bigger (also more) weakspots than obj252 in a high pen gun
sacred verge
@agile sphinx yeah but they both suck if they can't find cover for lower palte. So in terms of having cover for lower plate 252 is superb
white spruce
@wind whale from what angle?
wind whale
@white spruce everyone. Specifically the front, since high pen guns can easily pen everywhere else
white spruce
So straight on, on flat ground, with no angling or the turret of hull from either tank
sick leaf
If I switch to pramo that arl is all gray. If I switch to pramo that 252u looks the same
queen socket
No, have you even fought an arl before??
sick leaf
Yes I have. A vk36 can ez pen it with pramo
wind whale
Donāt forget you can HE an ARL. But letās not bring side and rear armor to this conversation
agile sphinx
That moment that suddenly weakspots can be up to 380mm š
@sacred verge IS7 is very bouncy on open ground, 252u has none of that unless you can't aim. I can't find the screenshots but the 252 only has an advantage over the IS3 in a tiny space because the IS3 has a better turret and hull in general. I don't see anyone crying about the IS3 being op and it has a better gun and is faster
@sick leaf So you don't have to use prammo to fight it lowering your dpm? So the arl still has stronger armour?
queen socket
Arl can go Into hull down position
sacred verge
@agile sphinx do you even listen? I said With cover
white spruce
First up the 252U has an astronomical lower plate which is 90% of the tank. Aim for that and everything will go through. One giant weak spot. Letās look at the Maus. It has a weak lower plate and weak cheeks. They can be angled. The 252U can be angled to the lower plate but then you expose the tracks.
agile sphinx
With a specific amount of cover. If it's slightly higher then the IS3 is far superior. If it's slightly lower then the IS3 is... far superior. @sacred verge
wind whale
@white spruce have you tried aiming at a maus with 380mm gun?
agile sphinx
Have you tried aiming at a 252 with 380mm of pen in a battle? Wait no it never happens because it's a stupid comparison
white spruce
You can go through the upper plate with that. But only donkeys drive straight at a 268, if you angle whatsoever suddenly the 268 is made redundant
Or any other large TDs
wind whale
@agile sphinx wow really nice point, you just aim at it with lower caliber guns
mossy badger
i dont even understand the arguments of you two anymore
agile sphinx
And again weakspots don't require 380mm of pen
@wind whale And so your comparison to the tier 10s becomes even more useless
wind whale
@white spruce Ho-Riās ap and Big Jagās HEAT are practically autopen in a maus
white spruce
Not if you have half a braincell and understand the concept of angles
wind whale
Doesnt matter how much you angle, your weak spot will still be bigger than 252u
mossy badger
no maus cannot angle against ho ri prammo no matter what
sacred verge
@agile sphinx š
agile sphinx
In the open, no. With no cover, the 252 is useless too.
sacred verge
That's why I hate Ho-Ri T.III. No matter how well you angle bounching shots from a Ho-Ri T.III is almost impossible
white spruce
Unless you are a complete lemon you should not be caught in those positions
sick leaf
@agile sphinx regarding your point of the arl having stronger armor, you have to take them in the positions they will be playing in. If an arl is angling itās front or going hull down I can still pen it. With a 252u if itās sidescraping or going hull down I doesnāt matter if you shoot pramo or not, itās gonna be quite hard to pen. Thatās why the 252u has stronger armor
sacred verge
@white spruce unless the Maus is in a pickly situation
mossy badger
oh my god is it that hard to agree on that the 252u is the best tier 8 heavy in terms of roles in the game
agile sphinx
@sick leaf My point was that comparing two tank of completely different tiers with one specific gun that suits your point is completely useless but anyway what if the 170mm of pen was your prammo? 252 is easy pen, arl you have to hope for RNG on the turret
Depends entirely on the roles, but comparing it to a tier 10 is stupid no matter what @mossy badger
wind whale
@mossy badger the discussion started when we compared obj252 with is-7
sacred verge
Obj 252u goes hulldown. That's it! job done!
agile sphinx
Not we, just one person. We makes it sound like other people think that is valid
sick leaf
Fyi not that it matters, the vk36 gun is quite avg. itās not a high pen gun or anything for its tier
wind whale
Born here
median wagon
My 252uās cupolas are sniped not too rarely
sacred verge
@median wagon it is still very hard to hit them
wind whale
@agile sphinx it is valid, to everyone but one person
Letās show how ARL is better... lol
agile sphinx
@sacred verge Cupolas, literally don't sit in front of a hulldown 252 like you wouldn't sit in the open in front of a TD aiming at you...
@wind whale That isn't true at all, and you still haven't managed to say a single reason why it is valid despite all the things that I have shown you about why it isn't valid
queen socket
Imagine putting a obj pike nose into a auto ricochet zone and saying it's better than a t10
wind whale
@agile sphinx obj252 has tier 10 armor and also near the best one of them when you check it from the highest caliber gun ingame. Thatās it.
In addition, if you compare weakspots, it still is very little compared to everyone else
queen socket
The bottom plate takes 95% of that screenshot
sacred verge
@agile sphinx in cities when you don't really have any options
wind whale
@queen socket sure, but is7 is 100% weak spots there
queen socket
Are people just going to aim at the upper plate when they see that lower plate
agile sphinx
155mm covering half the tank is not good. It's adaquate for tier 8, but if you think it's anywhere near tier 10 level them you need to play tier 10 for once. The 252 also has worse armour than a ARL when you check it against much more common guns that it can actually see within normal MM, but funnily enough you can't seem to understand that. 252 also has a bad gun and speed as well, but you have forgotten that too. The 252s weakspot is not small, and if you think it is then you need help.
@sacred verge You always have an option to not sit in front of a 252, even in tourneys when it's difficult (why it was spammed)
keen kite
How does this fit into ratings battles?
queen socket
I do not know at all m8
rare atlas
252 breaks ratings pretty hard
wind whale
@agile sphinx well because the discussion is about armor, not the other things. I think that you need help to see that obj252ās lower plate is still small compared to 100% of tier 10 tanks armor
@keen kite started as premium and collectors should not be on ratings, specially OP ones
keen kite
Oh I c
queen socket
Well obj isnt op
keen kite
I agree
agile sphinx
The other things always take a part in balance. If you don't understand that then go think long and hard about why tanks should not have advantages and come back when you give up. You are comparing a tier 8 to the highest pen in the game. You still cannot excuse that, mainly because it's impossible to excuse. Tier 10s are not 100% weakspots. This is literally the most basic things you can know I genuinely don't understand how you can begin to think differently.
wind whale
The other things always take a part in balance. If you don't understand that then go think long and hard about why tanks should not have advantages and come back when you give up. You are comparing a tier 8 to the highest pen in the game. You still cannot excuse that, mainly because it's impossible to excuse. Tier 10s are not 100% weakspots. This is literally the most basic things you can know I genuinely don't understand how you can begin to think differently.
@agile sphinx I think you have some reading problems or you just ignore main parts to try to prove your point.
Tier 10s are nearly 100% weakspots to HIGH CALIBER guns.
queen socket
Place the hori into a sniping position on a map then use the obj
Screenshot and show the armor
sick leaf
His point was that overall, the is7 has much stronger armor as most guns wonāt have that kind of pen and with those guns, the is7 will have much better armor compared to the 252u, which make sense. Whatās the whole point of this discussion tho. The 252u has crazy armor for tier 8, we know that
wind whale
Obj252 is that thing despite the gun, it will be always a strong hull with weak lower plate. You canāt do anything about it. Which is very different compared to the ARL.
agile sphinx
@wind whale Tier 10s are weak to the highest pen in the game. What do you expect? The 252 has an autobounce plate, but a huge and horrifically weak lower plate
wind whale
@sick leaf apparently itās not crazy enough to this guys
sick leaf
No Iām talking to u
queen socket
No, people were calling it op. And then it changed to this
sick leaf
Tier for tier 252u has better armor sure, but ofc is7 has better armor
queen socket
Is it finally over
wind whale
@sick leaf overall it does. Not when you look at it with a HEAT round of Jagdpanzer or a Ho-Ri
native marten
252u is just kinda objectively probably the best t8 heavy tank but showing that you can't penetrate the upper part of the hull and saying it's OP because of that is like looking at an IS-4 turret and saying the IS-4 is OP because of it
ornate spoke
252 is overrated
copper mauve
hate to see what?
keen kite
An ace in the op Vickers cr lol
copper mauve
well you are a good player
keen kite
Preciate it bro u donāt believe the hate u get for spamming this tank lmao
lime sparrow
at least its not as bad as pre-nerf t92
pallid arch
You can do incredibly stupid things with a 252u and get away with it. It bounces way more shots than it should be able to. Just because a top of the line player can dissect one does not mean that it won't absolutely obliterate average to bad players.
And, the extra alpha and gun depression are also very nice perks
median wagon
T92 is still broken after all the nerfs
grave harness
can we remove the t22 from ratings
restive badge
why are collector/premium tanks allowed to play ratings?
mossy badger
or else tier 7/8 ratings wouldn't exist
restive badge
then eliminate rating to just 1 tier setting; similar to how they've done it to tier 8s only one time
more player base, same tier, all skill
quaint obsidian
Thatās so dumb
People still use it for grinding tanks and making credits w premiums
blissful portal
Yeah but thats not the main purpose of ratings... its main purpose its competition, plus you can grind credits in game modes, almost every day with crates, boosters and premium account.
At least one season of no premiums/collectors could be nice to try, as they are trying for first time in WOT PC ranked battles now
queen lichen
Ahh, I remember when I had 900 average
median wagon
He challenged me to a 1v1 and didnāt even text me after lol
native marten
they do that on NA too
dire quiver
NA is special
lime sparrow
NA op
wind whale
Itās hard to win one today
zinc ravine
Always has been
grave harness
Playing ratings has made me hate this game
mossy badger
stop playing 4head
keen kite
@restive badge calm down a bit ur too far ahead
restive badge
nothing new
keen kite
Lmao I shouldnāt have told u ratings ends tonight
lime sparrow
cap
dry halo
Hi
restive badge
might be a foolish question, but is the ratings mode available during the weekends?
ornate spoke
@restive badge no so donāt play (:
mossy badger
@restive badge yes. Yes it is
Go for first place š„
hazy bronze
@restive badge it will be available for whole month until month ends
lime sparrow
Wym, @ornate spoke is literally spitting fax. Ratings is over in weekends so go do something else smh
ornate spoke
Exactly. Smh these people donāt understand ratings is only on weekdays till the end of the month. I think that is what they were trying to say.
keen kite
^^^^
queen socket
When the honest man lies.
regal cosmos
Can we just have an equal number of atgms on each team everytime? Getting annoying when one team has it and the other one doesnāt.
wind whale
Can we just not have ATGM at all?
ornate spoke
If they give more rewards other than Fearless shards in platinum and gold, maybe creds and premium days it would motivate people to play ratings and get good.
odd bronze
yes, rating rewards sux but camos are nice too( except gold for top players )
ornate spoke
Rework ratings!!!
glossy raptor
Why
mossy badger
I'm not gonna bother being detailed
Ratings points should be distributed solely on winning. Others provide a minimal but noticable amount of points.
In order of value:
- Exp - the higher the ace bar, the higher chance ur doing ur job and should be rewarded
- Epic medals - you could say it promotes kill stealing or something but you're supposed to kill, not farm damage
- gold badges/other medals - yes you can do more damage for more points but I think it should be capped cuz rn it encourages damage farming and not winning; and medals like damaged blocked/steel wall are definitely contributors to a win
- survival - no yolo pls
vestal pebble
@fresh spruce
fresh spruce
@vestal pebble
wind whale
@mossy badger in your hypothesis, a loss shouldnāt take points away? That would raise the battling spam.
Yes, I think that sometimes you work hard, lose the battle and lose points. This is the part that should be reworked for me. At least the two better XP in the losing team (with a minimum amount) should earn points as well, not as much as the winning team, but something
ornate spoke
Also please rework the points system, no one receives deduction when there is an AFK and less points upon losing
mossy badger
i only talked about winning cuz im too lazy to talk about losing as well @wind whale
lean zenith
Anyone know the criteria for a Valiant Effort? Sometimes I do like 6k damage and no valiant, but I can do 3k and 1 kill and get a valiant.
wind whale
Anyone know the criteria for a Valiant Effort? Sometimes I do like 6k damage and no valiant, but I can do 3k and 1 kill and get a valiant.
@lean zenith I think itās based on an epic medal like 4 kills, high caliber, that stuff
median wagon
If also happens in a loss where you got a 1st class
lean zenith
That's kinda underwhelming. So if I just go for kills and get 1k damage, but 4 kills, I still get a valiant effort?
sacred verge
Please ban premium and collectors from Ratings. They ruin everything
median wagon
No they donāt, ATGMs ruin it more
lean zenith
Play t10 ratings then, all the t10 premium/collectors are prettywrll balanced
wind whale
That's kinda underwhelming. So if I just go for kills and get 1k damage, but 4 kills, I still get a valiant effort?
@lean zenith yea but not a relevant XP either
median wagon
And if youāre gonna talk about T-22 being OP, 99% of its owners are newbies
white spruce
Maybe it might be nice to have a sort of ājackpotā where if you ace a vehicle you get 200% more points for that game
wind whale
@white spruce or another one for 5 wins in a row š
lean zenith
@lean zenith yea but not a relevant XP either
@wind whale that sucks, but it does make sense from a game design standpoint since there are so many ways you could have gotten a valiant effort and they dont have the time to go through and account for each scenario.
wind whale
@lean zenith if you have a screenshot of that we can argue properly.
Especially if someone in the winning team did better than you, then he would win the epic badge
white spruce
@white spruce or another one for 5 wins in a row š
@wind whale that would just make battle spamming more effective
wind whale
@wind whale that would just make battle spamming more effective
@white spruce well they have to win 5
lean zenith
@wind whale that would just make battle spamming more effective
@white spruce but it also forces people to try since you can't reliably go on win streaks just by spamming battles.
white spruce
Eventually you will this is why battle spamming is an issue
Itās not that hard to get win streaks, I frequently get them but also losing streaks. You gotta milk the winning streaks as much as you can and just dump the losing streaks
lean zenith
It's pretty much always been an issue though
wind whale
Eventually you will this is why battle spamming is an issue
Itās not that hard to get win streaks, I frequently get them but also losing streaks. You gotta milk the winning streaks as much as you can and just dump the losing streaks
@white spruce I used 5 as a random number, we can raise to 10
lean zenith
Maybe have milestones, or just special ratings missions that give out bonus rating.
wind whale
I also prefer battle spammers than someone who did nice a few battles and stopped playing to keep a good track
lean zenith
Nothing much, just a +10 here or a +20 there
sacred verge
Really WG?
lean zenith
Oof a -60
pallid arch
carry harder
white spruce
Ratings missions is a good one
wind whale
Maybe itās based on your vehicles weight
queen socket
Dont use vk
odd bronze
yes , i had a 43%er is 4 in silver rating said go to city in middle burg , he died showing his rear to 2 enemy tds , our ht was trash , i and grille ended up with more than 3k dmg , i had 3,6k with 2 kills and grille had 1 kill
pallid arch
Vk is actually really good in ratings with that alpha
queen socket
Ik but tiger ll would be better imo
pallid arch
I would take the alpha and an armor profile that works against prammo
odd bronze
so u basically leaving impenetrateable armor to enemy meds and lts , and one has that can be penned by prammo on cupola?
pallid arch
Put the gun in front of the cupola, and you hit harder than meds and lights do. Why sit in front of them?
odd bronze
u dont sit, u are slow to run of quicky too and dealing with vk100p is easier than dealing with tiger 2
pallid arch
laughs in actually using cover
sacred verge
I know why I lost tier 8. Because tier 8 is filled with frikkings premium tanks
odd bronze
i have enough time to react and shoot at ur cupola before u hide ur cupola also lower past exists
median wagon
German heavies are spammed in ratings
They have way too much HP, also one of my mates went in a match with 7 heavies on 1 side
pallid arch
4 shots from a vk is an acceptable game. 4 shots should be very easy to pull off with that hp pool and if you actually use armor
odd bronze
yes but tiger 2 is better in general
sacred verge
@median wagon they aren't spamed. They are worse than all those stupid premium tanks in tier 8.
median wagon
Incorrect
sacred verge
That is correct 100%. Had a game with 9 premium tanks in it. And everyone were re-rolls or just bots with money.
wind whale
Tier 8 spams heavies
Tier 10 spams meds and lights
Anyone else feel that way?
pallid arch
@wind whale yup
queen socket
Yea t8 is action and obj spam
median wagon
Progetto 46
pallid arch
Have fun as a med trying to pen the cupola @odd bronze
odd bronze
have fun chasing me as heavy when i dont brawl you face to face š
sacred verge
pallid arch
Then how are you gonna be shooting me?
sacred verge
Wonder if it's possible to have a battle with 100% premiums
queen socket
Yes
median wagon
Iāve had double progetto and a Pantera on the enemy, it was an annoying af match because of their clips
sacred verge
Can we please ban salty re-roll Unis? :I they aren't scared to drown players in salt
median wagon
And they rage in your DM about your trash 50wr or whatever it is
odd bronze
apparently i have tds and hts to brawl with u @pallid arch
wind whale
Iām spamming smasher. Too late in August to be a good guy
pallid arch
@odd bronze they get the same treatment (hint, it works)
median wagon
And you complained about me using 252u, @wind whale hypocrite
odd bronze
@pallid arch Well yeah but tiger 2 is still better
pallid arch
Not really, once the gold comes out
wind whale
And you complained about me using 252u, @wind whale hypocrite
@median wagon after two hours stuck in 4700 I decided to bring the demon. Iām always facing tier 8s anyway
median wagon
Iām stuck before 4.7k
pallid arch
Play a t29
native marten
play a kv5
odd bronze
Just listen to Welshly Army- Legendary
wind whale
Iām too broke to buy tech tree low tier tanks
keen kite
Play a t-34-2...
pallid arch
People on my team complained the last time I used a kv5
True story
median wagon
Because itās trash
pallid arch
Trash that I love
native marten
drive fv4005, but you don't run spall liner, and you don't take multipurpose or the shorter interclip consumable, and you run double fuel provision, and no camo
wind whale
I thought kv5 was good
odd bronze
bruh , i was in middle of match and boom , my game froze
keen kite
@odd bronze same happened to me earlier my game just froze out of nowhere and I had to reboot
And stuff like that never happens
warm charm
This update isnāt very stable
grave harness
i hope its safe to play ratings
median wagon
No itās very dangerous
pallid arch
Can confirm
lime sparrow
Itās as stable as Silentās pfp choices š¦
grave harness
i think wargaming put me on a blacklist, i cant win no matter how much damage i do
pallid arch
Get 7 kills, that usually results in a win
lean zenith
I just had a t57 with two in the mag lose to a 500 hp maus
grave harness
i have lost 240 points since yesterday because i just keep losing
native marten
yeah the trick is to start winning
lean zenith
^^^
native marten
research shows that 100% of wins are not losses
calm quail
damn bro
zinc ravine
Amazing I bet you are in Harvard
native marten
yeah I know it's crazy
grave harness
i am getting better teams in randoms
worldly anvil
no ur just doing worse in ratings
lean zenith
bruh my grille and 183 couldn't take out a single 50 hp enemy grille
worldly anvil
git gud
ez
mossy badger
^^^
viscid ravine
^^^^^idk ab u I'm winning and I missed like 5 days of playing rating this whole time but yet I'm in 7th dont know how
Lololol guy gud xD
mossy badger
ur seriously committed to a 2nd fearless bruh
median wagon
Lol why, you donāt need to sweat if youāve already got one
Whatās the point sweating? Itās not really rare anymore
worldly anvil
credits
ez
grave harness
im leaving ratings
queen socket
Ok
grave harness
nvm i have nothing else to do in this game
lime sparrow
You can date in training rooms š
queen socket
Bruh Imagine that's how u find your m8
median wagon
In those rooms everyone is a male
calm quail
@worldly anvil are you winning son
worldly anvil
yes dad
ratings is trash
@calm quail
viscid ravine
Lmao
lime sparrow
lean zenith
You can date in training rooms š
@lime sparrow even better, join one of the wolf rp rooms that are always up
ornate spoke
Wait, there's date in training rooms? I need someone to date me, and then pay me 500 dollars to buy a laptop, can i find this person?
queen socket
Lol depends
warm charm
depends on how hard u can sell urself as a pretty underage female
ornate spoke
Lmao. Lemme take some notes.
unique token
Lol gays are easier
lean zenith
depends on how hard u can sell urself as a pretty underage female
@warm charm say you spend 5 hours on tiktok everyday and drink starbucks everyday
unique token
Lol
lean zenith
become a tiktok thot
mossy badger
takes one to know one š
lean zenith
I never said that I was one. I just suggested that he become one.
restive badge
how. much. more.
mossy badger
last time i saw it was 1478
JAJ
native marten
only after 16 kills 70k damage 36 spots in a single game will you get a mastery
lethal holly
@keen moon yo botman, what word I use?
viscid ravine
@restive badge breh it was that battle when I fricked up and let u kill me, tbh it was e5s fault t22 and then it was my fault lmao
Sheris ace bar is like 1.5k+ I think
And also my guy, activate windows lololo
restive badge
pretty sure the e5 lagged out lmao
warm charm
most t10 meds have an ace bar of 1.5k xp, its ez if u prioritize xp farm over dmg farm
viscid ravine
Lol he mightve
warm charm
i mean i never do 5k without an ace cuz i just shoot everyones track for 2k assist lol
viscid ravine
Xp farm=kills
warm charm
nah xp farm = shooting the last guys track for 2k assist rather than 350 dmg
viscid ravine
There was a challenge to win a s conq in out clan, and there was one to get 4k assist which I did in Vickers by just shooting the tracks of jg e100 e100 vk 72
wind whale
How many points do you guys win in one hour? After youāre over 4500
tall berry
I earned like 200 in 1 day when I was around 5600 last szn, I was running the vickers cr lmao, most broken tank ever
lime sparrow
least its not a pre nerf t92
odd bronze
seriosly, i had t62a in ratings saying cun t asians and he was afk on purpose wtf
grave harness
I had a camping maus who was spamming the sos button
odd bronze
He was in my team TWICE, BAN THOSE PLAYERS
nice , my ratings dropped to 3750 from 3800 JUST BEACUSE OF *** TROOLLS
glossy raptor
You win that back in 1 battle
high arch
Ratings are fun jaa
odd bronze
@glossy raptor not really , since i am not pro
distant hinge
Wait whoās the staff in charge of ratings
agile sphinx
Bold of you to assume anyone at WG remembers ratings exists
glossy raptor
@odd bronze 2 then ;)
odd bronze
@glossy raptor i usually earn around 25-40 if i win , and lose 10-25 if lose
ornate spoke
in Diamond I win +5-8 pts avg if I lose I lost 5-10 pts ;-;
odd bronze
k , dropped to 3650 very happy :D
grave harness
Yep thatās ratings
glossy raptor
@ornate spoke I get average 6 plus ans 3 minus
ornate spoke
Me in top 5 so yeah sweaty bois
jade folio
If they give more rewards other than Fearless shards in platinum and gold, maybe creds and premium days it would motivate people to play ratings and get good.
@ornate spoke Earlier that event....where u play 100 rating battles to get FreeXP, Premium days and Credits was good addition....I hope they bring it back again
lean zenith
That was for Spring Season, you earned coins from playing your first 100 rating battles. You could also gain coins from tournaments.
median wagon
Iām in platinum but Iām still placed with tons of silver players to make the team average gold, quite frustrating having to lead these people
glossy raptor
@median wagon Its either that or wait forever to get into a battle
tawdry lintel
@odd bronze mine dropped from 5797 to 5763, thats around 5 hours of playing with these noob teams....
Im sick of playing 1vs7 every battle...
ornate spoke
Iām in platinum but Iām still placed with tons of silver players to make the team average gold, quite frustrating having to lead these people
@median wagon lol try diamond
median wagon
Itās not like Iāve never been there before š
ornate spoke
You'll lose more than you gain
warm charm
just spam op t8s or sweat in t10s ez
lime sparrow
Heavy spammmm
pallid arch
I love it when 12 tanks are heavies in tier 8
wind whale
Yesterday a guy in a sturer Emil was in ratings by mistake and yoloed
median wagon
Why is ratings annoying as hell today
The 3rd match was extremely poor but thatās about it
warm charm
no such thing as bad mm, only not enough carrying š¤Ŗ
keen kite
Anyone know how effective the lowe is in ratings?
median wagon
Since when did I say thereās bad MM, bad mm doesnāt exist because it doesnāt sort players by skill. Read the text before speaking
dire quiver
I spam battles in rating since I just want a camo on some tanks, itās great because even though my ping is trash and I perform poorly, I still go up way more than I go down lol
median wagon
Iām in a rush to get to diamond because thereās 1 week left and next month is school season
queen socket
I just want diamond camo on my type 62 lol
median wagon
Even if itās more HP to farm id rather it be reverted
hazy bronze
@median wagon do it want to diamond play tier 8 and spam since much easier or play tier 9 light tanks like e1 or cr or play tier 10 tank know you very well.
median wagon
Donāt worry Iāve gained it all back
lean zenith
t57 turret ring is actually so troll
median wagon
All T57 heavies I see in ratings are campers
median wagon
Shame
viscid ravine
Lmao
warm charm
pro teams
keen kite
Donāt complain, I had 6 zeros
warm charm
that e50 was in a 1v3 and i was in a 1v2, and we still lost
lean zenith
bruh is no one playing ratings anymore?
worldly anvil
Yep
queen socket
I gave up with my Chinese rng and to late in the season to do anything
wind whale
@lean zenith where do you check it
lean zenith
wotblitz.com
go to hall of fame > ratings
you might have to sign in
you're 88th place with 4873 rating
wind whale
@lean zenith it worked, thank you
lean zenith
š
wind whale
Got 20 points today š¤¦š½āāļø I guess my tank in ratings is the t30
lean zenith
Yeah I saw you playing it. I've been bouncing around between all my tier 10s now that I fulfilled my requirement for is4 camo
what happened to batchat lulu
wind whale
Are you doing ok in all of them? I feel rusty specially in good battles
lean zenith
I find myself doing ok in the is4, stb, and 62a. Mainly is4 and 62a
wind whale
Wasnāt doing good in the bat. Bad mistakes punish too hard
lean zenith
It's either everyone somehow pens me in my is4 or no one pens me in my is4, no inbetween.
same in 62
wind whale
Lol
I donāt play too well in medium tanks to manage to reach diamond. Better stay with TDs
ornate spoke
I donāt play too well in medium tanks to manage to reach diamond. Better stay with TDs
@wind whale playing passive is rewarding in diamond cause everyone thirst of dmg, thats why TD and autoloaders works really well.
median wagon
Just witnessed a camping Action X in the dead tail TD spot, he couldnāt even fight a 252u in facehug
pallid arch
Remember guys, the action x is "not op" because noobs play it.
keen kite
Noobs play t22...and let me tell u, itās still op
median wagon
Smasher was nerfed because thereās more 40wr using it
Isnāt action x the only broken tier 8 heavy anyway?
lyric jolt
Yeah but itās boring to play ax
wind whale
Smasher was nerfed? Where?
median wagon
Read the last half @wind whale
ornate spoke
when i hit 5k and drop will be counting season highest or actual rateing ?
restive dawn
The rewards are given out based on thr rating at the end
lime sparrow
wouldnt say AX as broken
median wagon
What is broken then?
pallid arch
Remember when the wz120ft was as op as you could get? Lol
Now it's kinda sad that it blends in
calm quail
it doesn't blend in lol it's still bs
its hp holds it back a bit in heavy meta thats all
queen socket
It's not used as much. But we all remember it
normal garnet
Itās not hard to pen, u aim at the lower plate and pen. Most tanks at t8 now have rlly good pen so they can go right through upper plate with premium rounds anyways. And since a lot of tanks have 400+ damage per shot thatās 1/3 of ur HP gone
zinc ravine
Well apart from the Action X going hull down the tank is not a problem to deal with
warm charm
maus is stupid broken in ratings if u can play it right (tbf its stupid broken everywhere)
queen socket
maus is balanced.....
hazy bronze
Maus is powerful in rating depending on the map and if has supremacy.
warm charm
r u kidding? u pushing in ur maus can single handedly win the game, or u holding against like 4 ppl for 2 min
wind whale
Not as the sheridan
hazy bronze
@warm charm yeah you do that with a lot of tanks but holding part different story it yes is very powerful almost op if get right map to go with it. Also so depending on what maus is facing as far as tanks.
warm charm
i get like 75% wr in maus in ratings, thats basically impossible in other tanks
pallid arch
The maus never needed the buff it got.
queen socket
So you play well in maus
lime sparrow
There are no other tanks that have the same holding power as the Maus.
median wagon
Itās OP of because of the hp it has, at least in PC itās justifiable because their guns do higher alpha
languid jungle
I mean what else do you expect the maus to do? Be a dpm monster? Its supposed to be able to have holding power just look at the thing
lean zenith
Protip: Focus the maus last because if you don't, you're wasting your dpm on a single tank when you could use it to clear 2-3 other, more dangerous enemies
warm charm
no other tank in the game can push or hold as effectively as a Maus, and it is the most influential tank in the game besides fast LT
median wagon
Itās OP, it has the HP of nearly 2 lights combined
queen socket
tbh none of the t10 tech tree is "op"
queen lichen
coughs in T1 Heavy
odd bronze
it is tier 5
queen lichen
.-.
blyat
lean zenith
not bad, ~200 rating increase, hoping to reach diamond by tomorrow or tuesday
lime sparrow
people really dont play ratings anymore
still quest
True sadly ..
undone python
Cuz i stopped ahahahah
no vk9001p
no other tank in the game can push or hold as effectively as a Maus, and it is the most influential tank in the game besides fast LT
@warm charm vk9001p can do that easily š
ornate spoke
no vk9001p
@undone python yea quit playing it please gdamn it
odd bronze
Vk90 01 p is op , change my mind
ornate spoke
Vk90 01 p is op , change my mind
@odd bronze its broken if it used by this man >@undone python
odd bronze
smh , cant pen turret with 420 heat pen
ornate spoke
Nari averaged 4k dmg in tier 9 Vicker CR
odd bronze
vickers cr is legit broken
undone python
I literally hold 1 ht 2 mts pushing me in vk9001p in ratings
lime sparrow
90ās a good tank
white spruce
But the question is how many battles did you play
normal garnet
I think the problem is ur averaging below 2.5k in a 30b
turbid pond
Does the is6 fearless also have the 2nd gun? On the is6 you can mount 2 guns
worldly anvil
yes
turbid pond
Oki gud
ornate spoke
hola
ornate spoke
In what other competitive video game would this sort of range be reasonable? This might be NA where there arent many players anyway but on top of that no one wants to play ratings either which messes up the system. If good SBMM means longer queue times, ill happily wait. #reworkratings!
median wagon
You donāt want to have SBMM, it ruined games like cod modern warfare
odd bronze
if it ruineed it why is it still AAA game? yes i understand we dont have enough ppl for SBMM
median wagon
Random MM is always better
next gull
I do not remember having this type of rating span on EU. I agree this is annoying
lean zenith
It's due to the extremely low population in ratings, the lower the number of people playing it, the larger the MM parameters.
median wagon
Remember the first season the is-6 fearless was introduced plus it was 2 months
odd bronze
cant they just make another rewards rather than just this fricking fearless? how long has it been in the game, if they did , they would get more ppl playing the game
marsh wharf
cant they just make another rewards rather than just this fricking fearless? how long has it been in the game, if they did , they would get more ppl playing the game
@odd bronze if I'm not wrong, there's another rewards, like gold etc, but it's just for 1-10 rank
median wagon
Ratings was booming at the first season fearless was introduced, and then they probably got bored of all the noobs and tryhards
odd bronze
and? cant they replace this fearless, it has been as reward long enough
median wagon
They wonāt replace it for a while, they said if you slack every season to diamond youād get it at the last season
odd bronze
@median wagon how long has it been in the game?
zinc ravine
So is he really saying the IS-6 Fearless will be available for the next 15 more months since that is how long it will take for a slacking diamond player to get the fearless counting the previous seasons
The IS-6 Fearless has been in the game for over 5 years
median wagon
Itās what i can infer from that text
odd bronze
bruh , same tank as a reward for like 3 years...
zinc ravine
What about this?
agile sphinx
It will be a maximum of 20 months because it's pretty unlikely WG will ever reduce the minimum amount of parts below 5. They will definitely have to do something more soon to keep ratings playable but they seem very unwilling. The hype for the fearless has already died down significantly.
zinc ravine
They might as well bring back the old fearless parts distribution but the season will last 1 month instead of 2 just to spice things up tho making the Is-6 fearless a much less valuable tank but probably will make ratings a more player mode cause now players have a higher chance of getting the tank
warm charm
fearless is like 2 million creds when sold so this is just a very very long term cred grind
wind whale
What if they swapped the is6 fearless for the smasher
pallid arch
Tier 7 would completely die
wind whale
That moment when you reach 4997 and bad teams start to appear
zinc ravine
Good luck because I went back and forth from diamonds to platinum 5 times lmao
Iām now at 5,173 so I donāt have to go through pain anymore
ornate spoke
Ratings slayer
median wagon
Action X
odd bronze
and?
median wagon
And?
lime sparrow
You use the 252u
He uses the A.X
median wagon
One is broken, one isnāt. And Iāve no problem with him using action x because it aināt the T92E1
lime sparrow
Define broken.
odd bronze
t54e2 is broken
median wagon
Ew no, well isnāt Action X a complete upgrade from the standard caernarvon? It even has better sides, DPM and turret armour
Action X is broken because it has an extremely good gun, really good armour(plus side scrapes) and itās quite mobile
lime sparrow
It's a t8 e5 but without the relative gun handling
median wagon
Have you even seen the Action Xās average stats? Itās nearly 60%
lime sparrow
Average stats from what kinds of players
tall berry
t92 isn't even broken, the vickers cr is
median wagon
Well Action X has 3k players, and with an average of 59% wr how isnāt it broken?
odd bronze
obj252 u has 60% wr too
lime sparrow
goteem
median wagon
Indeed it does
lime sparrow
apparently the 60% isn't broken
median wagon
Hm
lime sparrow
š
odd bronze
action x has 1% less wr than obj 252 u
lime sparrow
b-but AX op!!1!! 252u not op!11!1
odd bronze
according to you action x is broken becuz it has almost 60% , so u also mean obj252 u is broken]
median wagon
I did not think this, I honestly thought 252u would have poorer stats
odd bronze
š§
lime sparrow
One is broken, one isnāt.
You clearly implied otherwise
median wagon
Ok?
lime sparrow
Ok
odd bronze
u checked ax stats but u didnt on 252u before argument?
median wagon
Alright then, I got disproved on this one
lime sparrow
victory
median wagon
But I still think AX is better
odd bronze
https://tenor.com/view/weve-finally-achieved-our-victory-nick-zetta-we-won-celebrations-basically-homeless-gif-17747053 @lime sparrow
median wagon
Well at least I can admit I was wrong, you donāt have to scrub stuff in my face just because of that
After all youāre talking to a 30% player
ornate spoke
My lovely british baby
u checked ax stats but u didnt on 252u before argument?
@odd bronze 252U has to be within punching range to actually deal dmg, with AX u just keep farming them with ur DPM while they aproach you
odd bronze
@ornate spoke not that , he said ax is broke and 252 u is not , because ax had almost 60% wr and didnt check 252u stats
ornate spoke
252U is good against noob meawhile AX can bully pro player as well
@ornate spoke not that , he said ax is broke and 252 u is not , because ax had almost 60% wr and didnt check 252u stats
@odd bronze both is unbalanced but back to the individual player how they play either tanks
How I play it makes ppl consider it broken.
agile sphinx
People say this tank is broken too but can't defend their points at all š¤·āāļø
odd bronze
@agile sphinx what tank is dat
agile sphinx
A balanced one apparently
It's the sheri
median wagon
Sheridan isnāt even an issue, itās T92 which is the real issue
odd bronze
none is issue, it is a player that can abuse atgm is issue
median wagon
T92 is the most annoying midget tank ever, itās so hard to hit on the move, it has a TD gun handling and troll armour
Who thought of giving the T92 better gun handling than sheridan
ornate spoke
T92 is the most annoying midget tank ever, itās so hard to hit on the move, it has a TD gun handling and troll armour
@median wagon yeap stupid af armor for an LT wtf
Bounced more shots on a T92 than on a Sheridamn
Sheridan got bigger shilouette than T92 and can't hulldown anywhere on the map
median wagon
And they have spaced armour mantlets unlike the T49, plus the turrets are twice as thick
ornate spoke
yeah wtf is that
warm charm
pretty sure the t54e2 and the ax are both more broken that t92
glossy raptor
Dont forget about the is8, most op tank
median wagon
Broken
ornate spoke
AX got the mobility while T54E2 doesn't
speed boost up then you're a medium for that duration
odd bronze
first battle of the day on ratings and 4,2k dmg with 2 kills and 3 ppl under 1k dmg in my team ._.
ornate spoke
ez to counter enemy's rotation and flank
median wagon
T54E2 isnāt even OP
warm charm
yea it is, u can facehug almost every tank that youll ever meet
median wagon
Cupola
odd bronze
first battle of the day on ratings and 4,2k dmg with 2 kills and 3 ppl under 1k dmg in my team ._.
@odd bronze i lost 11 pts too , seriosly rework rating system
glossy raptor
@median wagon That thing is hard to hit if theyre wiggling and turning the turret
crimson goblet
e2 is one of the most well balanced tanks i have seen in a while wtf
just coz u are too dumb to deal with it properly doesnt mean its op š
odd bronze
@crimson goblet gun handling is too good for light tank with 152mm, not saying op but u cant also call others dumb because u are yter
median wagon
Weāre not taking about that
crimson goblet
ah yes, t54e2, the newly added light tank
odd bronze
t92e2
median wagon
šš
crimson goblet
what u mean is the t92e1 but okay
maybe i wasnt so wrong with the "dumb" part was i? š¤
odd bronze
ah wait , u guys talking abt shark , bit ago it was about t92e2 and there is too many e2
crimson goblet
there is no t92e2, its the t92e1
odd bronze
sorry , looks like i am confused
glossy raptor
It sure does
crimson goblet
gg wp
warm charm
u can hull down ez, gun is decent, facehug any tank, its op
median wagon
Action X is way better than that
ornate spoke
Action X is way better than that
@median wagon aye
odd bronze
idk but dealing with AX is easier than dealing with shark
median wagon
What??
ornate spoke
Can sidescrape too
sacred verge
Ratings is confusing
median wagon
Action X has an OP gun and a smaller cupola than T54E2
ornate spoke
The average asian AX players are apes
warm charm
the fact that i went from 4.1k - 4.5k in like 2 hrs in t54e2 shows how op it is
sacred verge
Someone explain how I won 14 points not even doing top damage?
median wagon
@warm charm that doesnāt prove itās OP
ornate spoke
Its still platinum its easy
sacred verge
@warm charm it might be a good tank but it's not OP.
warm charm
i frontline and just push, see a tank and facehug it to death, repeat
ornate spoke
median wagon
That facehug canāt be so potent
ornate spoke
Nah I have to disagree with AX better in facehug, clearly T54E2 is more efficient in doing that hugging all tanks while AX can only hug efficiently tank lower than its height
odd bronze
yes but dealing with hulldown e2 is hard
median wagon
Then donāt engage it
odd bronze
ok , i will just let them get key position den
ornate spoke
In AX I just need to bait a shot from it and use adren while its reload
median wagon
All American heavies suffer from the trash wheels, so use this to your advantage
ornate spoke
I bet he always goes to heavy tank side no matter what lmao
odd bronze
i said hulldown mate
ornate spoke
He never gets it cause he is a 50%er
median wagon
Thereās nothing wrong with that
odd bronze
He never gets it cause he is a 50%er
@ornate spoke who ? me?
warm charm
the problem with ax is that high pen tanks can go thru the ufp easily, that isnt the case with the shark, also u can just HE the roof for like 300
median wagon
Donāt act like Sharkās cupola is small, because it isnāt
ornate spoke
Shark is good for average players while AX can be Godly in the good player's hand
odd bronze
@ornate spoke who ? me?
warm charm
unless ur like 50m away its very hard to hit, especially if ur cupola blocking
ornate spoke
Its cumbersome you can leverage its slow speed to relocate and wait for it to push you, then dpm him
Play passive if you face a Shark, let it gets impatient and poke carelessly
rancid quarry
Hello Iām new
odd bronze
@ornate spoke at least stop ignoring me ._.
median wagon
Being caught out by AX is much worse than shark, because of that insane DPM the AX has
ornate spoke
Then put shots into him, and watch his reload
ornate spoke
Being caught out by AX is much worse than shark, because of that insane DPM the AX has
@median wagon yep, this is why I let people go agressive so when they push I can pop adren and drink their HP
warm charm
im not trying to argue that ax is better or worse than e2, but the fact that u can hull down and facehug very easily with a decent gun makes it op
ornate spoke
Yet again its personal preference
median wagon
Just hit its track wheels if it wants to brawl with you, youāll do damage 90% of the time through his track anyway
marsh wharf
I'm nub
ornate spoke
The average players don't know that and can't aim
median wagon
Those are the same saying 252u is OP
ornate spoke
252U means nothing while I'm in AX lmao
median wagon
Even lowe can smash a 252u
ornate spoke
Goodluck hitting my weakspot with that gun or when I sidescrape
warm charm
252u has a horrible gun and is slow
ornate spoke
Xd most of the time if I'm in AX m gonna win
My money didn't go to waste for that baby
hazy bronze
Both ax and shark are really op tanks. Easily be able get win with at least 65 win rate.
median wagon
0-7 ratings destruction š
warm charm
why is this even a thing????
mossy badger
brother you are being unneccessarily toxic
neon breach
in my opinion, action x more broke than 252U, the lowr plate on 252U is super easy to pen if ur good at the game and not in stock ST I
zinc ravine
Also adding that the gun on the tank is far more deadly with more DPM, gun handling, and the tank is a lot more versatile during battle
grave harness
himmelsdorf is cringe
hazy bronze
1 shark
2 ax
3 object 252 is how I would rate them order of being op
median wagon
Shark is not above AX
queen lichen
All shark has over the AX is alpha
lean zenith
himmelsdorf is cringe
@grave harness it is if you are a non-heavy tank with sidescraping/angling/hulldown capabilities
grave harness
ye also the med side is flatter than the heavy side
median wagon
Dead rail is cringe, Yukon is cringe
queen socket
I like yukon and dead rails cause I main tds xd
lean zenith
yukon is slightly not cringe once you realize the positions. I like it for supremacy and nothing else. Best map imo is probably desert sands
median wagon
I still have no idea where to go on Yukon
queen socket
Depends on your team
lean zenith
Med/light go far side with the big hill or the smaller hills in that area. Heavies go mid/slightly heavy side where encounter cap is, depends on team loadout. Never go to far heavy side unless you need the cap
queen socket
Sometimes they go town when your in a hull down tank
The corner near cap is good for tds
wind whale
Yukon sucks. Just sit somewhere and wait for the opponent to do dumb stuff
AX is more OP than the 252u when you talk about gun and dpm. Armor is completely op for 252u
normal garnet
Progetto 46 is great in ratings, ez farm
lime sparrow
2.4k average dmg in the e2's kinda hot
still quest
I can hit 1.8k in a t54
WAIT 79% winrate!!???1?1?1??1!
proud charm
normal:)
ornate spoke
I can negate armor with AX gun by shooting weakspot
Clearly people donno what is weakspot š¤·āāļø
glossy raptor
Its easy to pen the cupola with some gold if needed
pallid arch
With some HE*
glossy raptor
That requiers too much rng
viscid ravine
keen kite
^ btw stop playing so I can get my fearless ffs
warm charm
^thats right u tell him he almost has 2
lime sparrow
^absolute sweatlord
median wagon
š¤
queen socket
At least u got diamond
median wagon
Gladly, but Iām aiming for 15 parts as usual so top 200(around 5.1k)
queen socket
But I do understand the rage about those 2 zeros
median wagon
One was a tier 9, so it was very impactful on the battle outcome
queen socket
Both very good tanks and cant shoot 1 shell and pen.
hasty sorrel
Hard to get a higher score when teams like this happen
Did more damage then my whole team combined
tame moth
good result?
viscid ravine
Trash, absolutely garbage, :3
keen moonBOT
Warning logged for LeeRoy#1427. I couldn't DM them.
queen socket
Warn for not being able to dm?
viscid ravine
Why did he get a warning tf
keen kite
@hasty sorrel cause u sit across the map and farm dmg like u did on canal
viscid ravine
:3
queen socket
How is 4.3k under 500th place
median wagon
Thatās only NA
agile sphinx
4.5k is under 800th place on EU lol
But sure ratings isn't dead WG you keep thinking that
queen socket
Lol
drowsy plinth
F me daddy
hasty sorrel
@keen kite some times I do and some times I dont but I know all of us being huddled together in one spot ain't going to be good
drowsy plinth
Sure it will
hasty sorrel
No it won't
Makes iij t hard to focus fire, allows flanks and limits what the team those if everyone is trying to shoot at the same point u are lessing the don the whole team can do
Dpm not don ,
Like port bay everyone wants to go left on the bridge side or right on the other side
Basically the med route to me this is stupid u have a whole entire map to work with yet when your team has a e 100 and a maus try ok ng to go the med route it dont work
well t limits on how many place can shoot at once and when u can shoot u will get shot back
lean zenith
Makes iij t hard to focus fire, allows flanks and limits what the team those if everyone is trying to shoot at the same point u are lessing the don the whole team can do
@hasty sorrel I'm sorry what, focus firing is the most effective way to win battles.
hasty sorrel
Focus firing is the best way to win
But if u are all huddle in one spot it limites the focus fire cause everyone will be getting in your way, unless u are kinda spread out
lean zenith
Ah I see. Huddling is effective when you're ambushing or pushing together. but you can't be right next to each other
hasty sorrel
It also dont help out when u have a player who thinks hes super man or a couple players who think they are superman and poke out constantly or rush and die in 30 seconds of the game starting ( like bro u have 6 min )
That's what I mean when it's a stale mate and u both aren't pushing it's all about dpm then and hp
grave harness
dynastys pearl so small it sucks
hasty sorrel
I'm just saying teams are stupid yes I admit sometimes I camp or sometimes I flank in a heavy but in my head it's a good decision if I flank I can pull 2 tanks and my team can push the 5 (most of the time the team is to stupid to do so)
mossy badger
no one can read your mind and what they see is something else
unless you communicate it clearly or you're playing with top tier players no one will follow what you're planning in your head
aka
just be with the team unless you're fast enough to maneuver around
hasty sorrel
To me it's just common sense
warm charm
nice it takes me 130 battles to go up 400 rating, stupid gamemode
keen kite
I get what ur saying but the situation Iām talking about was when I called right and we had more than enough fire power to push and clear but u (in the vk) one of the strongest heavy tanks at tier X camped middle all game with no shots
median wagon
So you averaged like 3 points per game
warm charm
nice 50% wr, i dont have op t8 tanks so its 10x harder to go up
hasty sorrel
@keen kite I get what u mean if I went mid then I was expecting enemies to go mid ( sometimes I call wrong but ) it happens
keen kite
š
hasty sorrel
@keen kite and if I where to turn around and try and get to u guys I'd be to late or id loose more then half my hp trying so either I try to get side shots in or I try and flank
mossy badger
"op" tier 8 tanks
just use a T32 smh
zinc ravine
Isnāt really broken in ratings since skilled players know how to penetrate it
hazy bronze
@warm charm just used powerful meds and lights tanks like cr and e1 and stb 1 really any med will do. Heavys I would is 4 or e5 only it get hard when you start to earn 10 per win.
hasty sorrel
And if I where u I'd do e5 over is 4
Of course anything is better then the exsploder number 7
(Is 7)
warm charm
u see the problem is all my t10s are paper, so its really hard to get consistent results. i did play on another acc and spammed is4 and maus and that made ratings ez
mossy badger
uh oh don't get banned š
lime sparrow
@mossy badger hey it only took 100 battles for me to get into Plat this time
I am now OP š
hazy bronze
@warm charm you got some decent tier 10 t 62a and fv 215 and 268, t57 heavy to go up easy.
queen socket
Why dose a random rhm nuke me every match in ratings
lime sparrow
Why do you let a Rhm nuke you every match in ratings
@mossy badger u are a terrible person and i hope you stub your toe
mossy badger
lol took 114 battles for diamond
š
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow are you trolling
queen socket
I get spotted for 1 second then all my hp is gone
lime sparrow
Good for you, I do not care
hazy bronze
It take around 80 wins around to get diamond
orchid light
@warm charm you donāt need armour tanks to do well, leo1 and other paper tanks work just as well
lime sparrow
I'm implying that it's ok to have a tank that works fine but why not have a tank that works more than just fine
orchid light
Fixed
For me itās because I find it boring to play the same tanks as everyone else
warm charm
@orchid light yea i can do well, but having no armor means i cant shield for my garbo teams and im forced to trade
orchid light
Help your teammates? Pshhhh whatās that
warm charm
if i die its like a 90% loss, ratings is actually retarded
hazy bronze
@warm charm the key to rating is see if your team has chance to win and if not try farm as much possible.
warm charm
no, the key to rating is to spam op t8s cuz at t10 everyone camps or yolos and u cant do anything to win
hazy bronze
@warm charm well your not wrong but means average 3k plus to even have chance to win.
zinc ravine
The key to winning is just spamming the Vickers CR
wind whale
What about e3? I just got it and seems kinda op with that exclusive turbo
keen kite
Extremely op
opaque edge
Would be nice to have more lvl 10 light tanks than just 3...
Vickers is very strong, everyone knows it
Didn't see why each nation can't have a light tank
glossy raptor
It will come sooner or later
opaque edge
I just wonder will they nerf Vickers or it's good only in good hands :)
restive dawn
Theres already 3 lights like a half a year ago only 1
warped ferry
nice balance on ratings
2xT22 2xVickers 2xk91 and 113 against me in vickers and 6 autists with 1500wn8 who cant even drive properly
opaque edge
Wow, that's imba
fathom panther
Tell me more... had a gave against a smasher 2 lowe and 2 su while my team had none of those tanks
median wagon
Haha
past magnet
Two things I have noticed since 7.2. 1.) my first shot even a broadside shot does no damage , always a dud. After that it's ok. 2) Tiger II does not show up in as suitable tank in Ratings battles yet if I select tanks not suitable it shows up and will play in the ratings battle.
lime sparrow
^
violet bridge
would be nice to have voice chat as an option
tired vault
Lmao I thought of that too. But only for ratings
pallid arch
As long as you can mute individuals
ornate spoke
Ratings is just ape wankfest
hazy bronze
Would vc no be too powerful in rating
radiant cypress
they are not even try to improve in-game communication system, first of all they should minimize the radar sections (3x3 to 4x4 or even 5x5) not helped at all while guessing the enemies where were they at and second; as i mentioned before, they should improve the in-game comm. like more auto commands that'll help as a first step. I think we will be wait moooooore time to talk with allies over voice chat, like update 9.2 or sth(because of the slow term updates)
restive badge
what is up with the servers near unplayable? 30-minute waiting ques, and much more
solar moss
Nobody is playing ratings
restive badge
lime sparrow
we all went to Uprising š
keen kite
Yea I quit ratings
tall berry
ye everyone is playing uprising
zinc ravine
Noice
warm charm
yea, i got into battle instantly and everyone got quick queues for like 3 games, then i went to uprising and now yall back to long queues, oops š¤·āāļø
zinc ravine
I got into one ratings game today and literally everyone was spazzing out and couldnāt hit a thing
median wagon
Uprising distracted me from ratings today
zinc ravine
Same
lime sparrow
Meh
ornate spoke
Uprising makes me think I will get to respawn after dying
lean zenith
Sounds like a you problem
median wagon
Oof
left zodiac
yeah
glossy raptor
Yeah rating was moved to gamemodes
vivid shore
Haha
blissful portal
Oh noo T8 rating will be full of Chimeras now lol
lean zenith
Bruh you're scared of a chimera?
blissful portal
@lean zenith not scared, but it has good alpha
A pretty good tank for ratings although its armor is not so strong
orchid jacinth
I quit ratings for Uprising lol
lean zenith
^
Bruh they increased the slowdown timer to 5 minutes
vivid shore
I have to wait 2-4 mins for battle with rating 5654 xD
glossy raptor
I wait forever till i give up
vivid shore
I try to be in top 25 and I'm so close
median wagon
So what am I supposed to do against a team that has 3x tier 8 frontline heavies and my team only has 1? Before the heavy buffs at least it could be countered.. reverse heavy buffs
And keep in mind, weāre dealing with silver player teammates
lean zenith
then go med route
median wagon
Iāve no hope anymore
glacial rivet
They need to be banned
lean zenith
^sadly facts. WG also refuses to implement some sort of guide to increase skill, so they always exist
tall berry
Didnāt WG themselves say they were going to fix the military honor system? @lime sparrow I remember reading about it a few days ago iirc
sullen oak
2 of my teammates jumped. Im giving up on ratings
lime sparrow
Didnāt WG themselves say they were going to fix the military honor system? They said that before?
median wagon
Nice joke
marsh wharf
I Just can't play rating, waiting for too long then got no matchmaking lol
keen moonBOT
TANKINATOR#0969 has been warned.
grave harness
nooo i thought all the bots would go to uprising but instead all the good players went to uprising, my team filled with golds and silvers and im in diamond :"u
queen socket
Ikr
queen socket
I'm having that problem in plat close to diamond
lime sparrow
have fun in the bottle neck
queen socket
I started ratings to late in the season
lime sparrow
Enjoy your stay on the bottle neck*
queen socket
Bruh ok.
dire stream
why should they be banned? they have 5 stars of military honor which means they arent jerks... no one should be stopped form the game just because they lack the adequate skill to do well
@ornate spoke However, many toxic af players have 5stars. The military honor is quite misleading in such situations
restive dawn
107 battles to diamond:( gotta tryhard next season
zinc ravine
Good luck m8
Iām going to get my IS-6 fearless next season if I get 30 parts this season and the one after
iron zodiac
When does this rating season end
queen socket
August 31
iron zodiac
Thank you
feral sky
.
zinc ravine
And on the 31st the rating day ends early and last for like 4-5 hours instead of the other days that last 9 hours
warm charm
next season will be full tryhard myb, i didnt even get into diamond smh š
restive dawn
How many parts was it for top100
hazy bronze
@restive dawn 5 parts if your on na
iron zodiac
does anyone have the 4k league camo or 5k league camo on
- T110E3
- VK 72.01 K
- Obj. 263
- FV4202
- FV4005
- WZ-121
- FV 215b
queen socket
When u dont have any of those tanks.....
ornate spoke
does anyone have the 4k league camo or 5k league camo on
- T110E3
- VK 72.01 K
- Obj. 263
- FV4202
- FV4005
- WZ-121
- FV 215b
@iron zodiac I have half those tanks but I donāt do ratings
iron zodiac
I have all tier 10 tech trees and these are the ones without legendary camos lol
does anyone have the 4k league camo or 5k league camo on
- T110E3
- VK 72.01 K
- Obj. 263
- FV4202
- FV4005
- WZ-121
- FV 215b
@iron zodiac
restive dawn
In eu, Theres almost 60k players calibrated
median wagon
First season was about 120k
warm charm
in NA only like 20k calibrated
iron zodiac
So i need only 50 games per tier to get camo right?
restive dawn
Make sure it has most battles, if there are tied up tanks you dont get the camo
iron zodiac
okay BUT lol i have 10 games in E75, 10 in vk45, 10 in k91, 10 in vickers tier 9, 10 in is8
which tank will get it
@restive dawn you can edit i will read, stupo slowmode
median wagon
None
iron zodiac
Make sure it has most battles, if there are tied up tanks you dont get the camo
@restive dawn Really? Wow I thought i get to choose
solar moss
50 + battles to get camo
queen socket
I got the camo for 48 battles
warm charm
^report for hacking
queen socket
Lol
next gull
80 battles this week to go from 2.7 to 3.7k. I will not make it to 4k I guess ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
lime sparrow
meh
restive dawn
50 games yesterday 4700->5200
wind whale
does anyone have the 4k league camo or 5k league camo on
- T110E3
- VK 72.01 K
- Obj. 263
- FV4202
- FV4005
- WZ-121
- FV 215b
@iron zodiac I do have 4K camo on my FV215b. Itās my favorite
iron zodiac
@iron zodiac I do have 4K camo on my FV215b. Itās my favorite
@wind whale DM me a picture please
queen socket
4k camo looks better than diamond imo
lime sparrow
eh. seeing black camos gets boring sometimes
lean zenith
diamond camo looks especially weird on the grille
median wagon
Can this channel get the previous 30s cool down
queen socket
Ikr we barely talk on here anyways
wheat pebble
Poggers
lime sparrow
Ratings Chat always dies down when the month ends
lean zenith
yea
warm charm
tbf ratings chat is always ded
agile sphinx
Because ratings is always ded
#bringbackcancracker I almost miss him and what he said. Almost. :'(
queen socket
Make the only channel in the server ratings. ez
minor basin
F ratings
median wagon
I miss cancracker dearly
upbeat wolf
Rating battles are good for credits
lean zenith
so is uprising
rose trail
rating battles are like normal battels but the queue is 5x longer and for some reason people are more toxic in chat even though the skill is still about the same as random
odd bronze
hm
lime sparrow
because there are higher expectations
odd bronze
why do we have 5 min slow mode?
lofty wolf
so no spam
lime sparrow
Boogers!
woeful breach
Does someone have 4k camo on any tier 10 tank? If you do DM me please (with picture of the tank)
vestal pebble
@woeful breach can send in 30 min
solar moss
Hmmm
keen kite
Thereās a button on the top left corner of the screen that looks like a home button. If u push that it takes u back to the garage š Whys there a 5 min wait wtf
kind eagle
why would u take the t49 into ratings lol
queen socket
Use a fv301
white timber
Iae
dull nacelle
Wtf is this game I need 7 points to be im the top 5
median wagon
Ha no
keen kite
unfortunate
lime sparrow
ratings ends tonight yes
i want that black and red camo š
dull nacelle
Can you please tell me how I should play this game and get Is6 Fearless if I dont find battles?
glossy raptor
@dull nacelle My friend waited 5h for one game
median wagon
Somehow WT auf pz ricochet 2 of my 252uās AP shells
lean zenith
yeah its fun when you bait them with the gun or tracks
ornate spoke
Can you please tell me how I should play this game and get Is6 Fearless if I dont find battles?
@dull nacelle play it since day 1 when season starts
dull nacelle
What happens if Place 5 and 6 have the same amount of Rating Points? Do both get the Achievements? @light cave
median wagon
This gave me a heart attack
opaque edge
Yeah, unexpected bounce
vapid quest
yikes
hazy bronze
@dull nacelle rank decide by name rather than points
restive badge
When is the last day of ratings?
queen lichen
Last day of the month, so today
zinc ravine
And it end early today
Itās probably gonna end within 22 minutes or 1 hour and 22 minutes
queen socket
I only do ratings for the camos
median wagon
15 parts secured
tall berry
top 10 secured š
keen kite
same here
lean zenith
Wait, did I get 50 t10 battles yet?
zinc ravine
And trying to secure my 30 parts so I can get another 30 next season to get myself the fearless
Ya I got it
lean zenith
I did get my 50 battles, 152 to be exact
median wagon
Did ya get it @zinc ravine
hazy bronze
The parts have still come right
zinc ravine
The parts come around 3 days after the season has ended
median wagon
I will own 85 when my next batch arrives
warm charm
0 parts secured, ty teams š
zinc ravine
Oof thatās a fat RIP, can we get any Fs for respect?
lime sparrow
got my stuff
hazy bronze
@warm charm how you not get 5k whole month
white spruce
Hot
lime sparrow
sexy
crimson goblet
yas i finally did it
got all 3 camos now on my e50m
median wagon
Thatās so neat, you have a different one for each map type
crimson goblet
yea thats what i wanted
opaque edge
You get camo for tank with 50 games and only if you above Gold (above 4k) yes?
gaunt lintel
There is a bug, I dont receive my tier 8 rating camo, and I did 105 battles on tier 8
odd bronze
@gaunt lintel u should do 50 battles on a certain tank
gaunt lintel
@odd bronze no, you have to play more than 50 battles in a tier, and wg give you the camo in the tank with more battles
median wagon
You done it wrong
gaunt lintel
Na, i play 105 battles in tier 8, my most played tank was the t54 mod 1 but I cant explain it good because de Slow mode
odd bronze
@gaunt lintel U need to have 50 Battles on a certain tier and certain tank to get the camo , like , u have 90 battles on tier 8 and ur t54 mod 1 has 50 and another one has 40 , the one that has most played battles on a certain tier will get the camo , u need 50 battles minium
gaunt lintel
See I dont have the rating camo
odd bronze
@gaunt lintel ofc u dont , next time play 50 battles minium on the tank u want the camo on
crimson goblet
no
that is bs, u need 50 games in the tier, the tank played most gets it
gaunt lintel
Nooo, u have to play 50 battles on the tier and the most played tank u recibe the camo
3very why I dont receive the camo?
odd bronze
@crimson goblet u need 50 games Minium to get the camo , idk then maybe he will get it later
crimson goblet
no u dont, i have multiple camos, for example i played 30 games in my e50m, got to 4k as i want that camo, went to 50 games with other tanks and got my camo,as seen in the chat above
gaunt lintel
@crimson goblet why I dont receive the camo?
Is a bug?
queen socket
I got a camos with 30-48 battles in a certain tanm. idk if wgs being nice or something
ornate spoke
Hi
wind whale
Iām kinda lost too. I thought WG would give camo to the most tank played tier by tier. I was hoping to get it on my T30 and Ho-Ri. Just the latter got it. Maybe itās just for one of them?
lean zenith
did you play at least 50 battles in each tier?
gaunt lintel
Ye i play 105 battles in tier 8 and 28 un the tank (the most played) and I didnt get NOTHING
queen socket
Ur doing it wrong.
gaunt lintel
What wrong?
queen socket
Do u think 28 battles in enough to get a camo?
glossy raptor
Its supposed to be enough if he did more than 50 battles on that tier, which he did. Minimum 50 battle on the tier and even if the tank itself has less than 50 you should get it
ornate spoke
Dont you get the camo for that tank you have most battles on it with 50min for every tier? XD
zinc ravine
To get a ratings camo you must play 50 battles at a certain tier and be in either platinum or diamond league and the most played vehicle at the tier will get the camo unless it is a vehicle that canāt get a camo such as the T34 (1776), Dracula, ect.
If your not given the camo go report it to wargaming player support
warped rain
@odd bronze itās wring what you said
lime sparrow
tfw no embed
wind whale
I just checked and I did 49 smh
odd bronze
@warped rain ya my bad
pine falcon
Ya boy sevik is back
lime sparrow
he lives!!1!
lean zenith
Return of the king
median wagon
crowd cheers
ornate spoke
@pine falcon welcome back
wind whale
I thought that going diamond league you automatically receive is6 fearless parts.
worldly anvil
no
median wagon
Lol
queen socket
Some seasons, not all