rating-battles

[ornate spoke]

@bleak crest you don't get to have a say in who plays and when they play. If you are unable to cope with the quality of teammates that you get that is a you problem.

[plain hollow]

@bleak crest There is one quite important stat, called WN8, I don't blame anyone if i have 2000+ dmg on t8 even tho i lost.

I mean, yea WN8 is calculated only in random battles, but ratings are kinda useless, if you aren't LOCA toast, you won't probably get even a charm for fearless, and rating events are just here to anoy people.

[bleak crest]

@ornate spoke I don't need to, the rating should do that. But because it's not doing the job right I meet those kinds of players.

@plain hollow ratings missions too

[restive dawn]

rating does it if you prove to be skilled enough to climb high up

[agile sphinx]

@bleak crest The quality of the teammates is matched roughly around how you well you play yourself at anything under around 4.5k, so if you are complaining about your teammates then that includes yourself as well

At high ratings, certainly towards the end of the season you get matched up with other good players but sometimes you get out with low average teams to balance ratings out

[autumn wave]

I love this channel :] 🍿

[muted shuttle]

higher rating games
@bleak crest Since when is 4k "high"?

[bleak crest]

It should be high enough to avoid spawn campers and afks

[restive dawn]

i still camp at spawn at 4500

[pine falcon]

pro strats. But that aside all of the tournament battles Ive seen from your clan focus on getting a cap advantage and just holding. Never have I seen W1N try to push hard.

[warm charm]

@bleak crest at 3.2k rating u shouldn’t be complaining about being too high, it’s where the majority of players are, and if you are continuously stuck at 3.2k maybe that just means that you play on a 3.2k skill level

[bleak crest]

Look in game at the history. I had 3.785 on Friday. Every weekend the same story happens. It's just ridiculous to be happening in ratings. I get 2.8 -3.2 games and they drag me down. Every time in weekends, not so during the week. Something is fundamentally wrong and it needs fixing.

[pallid arch]

Careful there, you may hurt his feelings

[agile sphinx]

I camped in IS3D and gained a lot of points back but it's not the style of play I want.
@bleak crest

You need to camp in heavies.
@bleak crest

It should be high enough to avoid spawn campers and afks
@bleak crest

[copper mauve]

@bleak crest how long have you been complaining about ratings? Maybe you should try using the time you wasted here to carry your team harder?

[agile sphinx]

When your rating isn't enough to avoid your own playstyle and afks that will happen in every single game 🤔

[neat slate]

You see, it’s the game that needs fixing, it’s not his fault that he cannot climb out of gold.

[native marten]

imagine complaining about low 3k players when you're literally in that same pool of players

[bleak crest]

People on my team still play FV183 in ratings...

[median wagon]

It’s a toxic tank

[glossy raptor]

@bleak crest

[restive dawn]

daily dose of 183

[copper mauve]

lmao just post good rating FV183 games to trigger him

[mossy badger]

i havent dropped a cent in 2-3 years in blitz (nor have I spent that much in total) and I already have the Fearless from placing within top 25 twice so explain the rigged mm

[restive dawn]

oh wait that's my account first i thought like yey im not the only one playing 183

[bleak crest]

Obviously they are not on my team, I get FV spawn campers, remember ?

[mossy badger]

if you played a 183 what would happen then @bleak crest 4k average every game?

[restive dawn]

i sit at spawn

[fallen mortar]

@restive dawn give me a 183 and i shall join you but im already to lazy to grind so 183s line isnt known to be a nice grind

[restive dawn]

takes like 700k free exp

[fallen mortar]

and thats like 30k gold xd

[restive dawn]

just 2 of these

[mossy badger]

wtg u have one
i have an epic one which is already 28k

[warm charm]

I have 3 commons rip

[restive dawn]

i have already over million free exp so im just gonna keep that in garage

[pine falcon]

I have 5 epic certificates for free xp and now I feel poor

[median wagon]

4.7k reached today

[turbid mist]

Do ratings battles effect stats?

[warm charm]

They only affect battle count

[autumn wave]

Which is good for rerolls

[lime sparrow]

Or grinding xp

[pine falcon]

Hopefully tomorrow I can reach 5.5K

[hazy bronze]

@pine falcon don’t worry you will

[still quest]

Is 3900 rating good since this is my first time I calibrated aka played 10 games

[worldly anvil]

for your first calibration 3900 is quite good

[still quest]

Almost 4k

[ornate spoke]

Well i lost 600 points in 2 days

[unkempt grove]

?

[ornate spoke]

Rankeds can be played to 24:00

[unkempt grove]

ah

[still quest]

Do we get rewards in ranked battles?

[ornate spoke]

@still quest yes you get the reward of playing tanks

[still quest]

No i mean like special rewards as if we placed high in the leagues

[median wagon]

This is why you read the news

[neat slate]

“The rewards are:
Top 5 — IS-6 Fearless;
Top 10 — gold;
5k+ — "Top-Notch" camo, Diamond League Avatar and parts of the certificate for the IS-6 Fearless;
4k+ — "Rating Ace" camo and Platinum League Avatar;
3k+ — Gold League avatar.”

@still quest

[still quest]

thx

im at 3.9k @neat slate

gonna take some for 5k

[lean zenith]

What's the battle minimum for ratings camo? 40 in each tier?

[native marten]

@lean zenith iirc it's 50 to get a camo for that tier

[lean zenith]

Bruh Im still at 17 battles in my stb

But I don't want to play too much that I get into diamond because I'm going for the plat camo

[native marten]

this is gonna sound crazy, but just hit 50 battles on the tank you want the camo on and then just kinda lowkey sorta try to lose a bit of games (if you're above 5k ofc)

[hexed solstice]

@bleak crest lol MM is totally random, sometimes I have 3 60% players in my team and maybe 1 on the enemy team.

[unkempt karma]

.

[vivid shore]

lol MM is totally random, sometimes I have 3 60% players in my team and maybe 1 on the enemy team.
@hexed solstice dude yesterday i played rankeds in T110E3 and in my team 4 meds and 2 lights, in enemy team 5 meds and 2 light....

[hexed solstice]

Uhm, your point here is? @vivid shore

[vivid shore]

i talk about mm dude

[hexed solstice]

Ok?....

Doesn’t seem like it at all, just one match that you played an e3 and there were lights and meds, isn’t really anything special

[vivid shore]

enemy tem full meds and lights, no ht and no tds, same in my team

[warm charm]

Bruh I’ve had double e100s and an e75 vs is8 and k91

[native marten]

bruh you know when you go into a ratings game and your team is like an FV4005 2 T57 Heavies 1 AMX 50B and a batchat and 2 other random tanks and you're like oh god no

[median wagon]

Those are only support tanks and your team is basically messed up because you don’t have a true heavy to hold the line

[native marten]

lol yeah it's rare for it to happen but the moment you see that your team's got like 4-5 support tanks it's like "yep we're screwed"

[median wagon]

Are you serious?

[pine falcon]

Im sad. My phone broke down meaning that I won't be able to keep up the top 25 as I will miss like a week due to it being repaired. Instead of 40 I will get just 30 parts for the fearless (or I can even drop to 20 or whatever the next drop is)

[glossy raptor]

But how did u write this? @pine falcon

[queen lichen]

Yes

[ornate spoke]

he's clearly on a different platform

[pine falcon]

@glossy raptor ... PC...

[ornate spoke]

@median wagon to fix this heavy tank issue, have you tried turning your device off and on again?

[median wagon]

So wg can limit all the other classes except heavies

[neat slate]

@median wagon what map was it

[median wagon]

It was the worst map for heavies, castilla and we didn’t have any TDs

[neat slate]

Yeah thats rough. Still, at least it wasn’t dynasty pearl supremacy with that composition

[median wagon]

Heavies are stupidly spammed and they need a team limit of 3, they slow down the game so much

[blissful portal]

Omg just 1 day it takes me to win some horrible 100 pointw 14 battles 3 wins im tired of disgusting streaks at ratings, random battles dont have such horrible streaks

I get a noob tortoise doing 0 dmg amazing

I wish i could get that streak but with wins

[still quest]

Same

[subtle vortex]

I just had this game and it kinda seems a bit unfair

[blissful portal]

@subtle vortex I was just goin to post that lol

[subtle vortex]

Oof lol

[blissful portal]

Plus they had an -MM and a V

[subtle vortex]

Welp time to screw up the rating even more!

[warm charm]

How U guys playing server lag be screwing me over, even just typing lags my game

[lean zenith]

I've had that rating difference happen before, but not with void and mm on the same team. Imo, the rating difference is completely irrelevant and it just depends on teamwork

[blissful portal]

Again a noob with 600 battles using a challenger and was afk omg why do i have to get this kind of players...

3 players that didnt finish callibration in my team against 1 of the enemy team im surprised

more than 60 points lost already today....

[lean zenith]

Then take a break and start again tomorrow

[blissful portal]

But why do i have to take a break due to noobs that just yolo, go afk, do 0 dmg... all the points i won yesterday were lost today

Again a Conway doing 0 dmg all day with tier 9 bots ive been getting

[lean zenith]

🤦‍♂️

This goes for virtually all competitive ranked systems
You set a limit that you are willing to lose each session like 100-200 rating
You play ranked
If you go over that limit, quit and stop playing until the next session
If you are borderline, but not yet over, play another game because you might go on a winning streak.
Otherwise, keep playing
If you don't set this cap, then you risk going down a rabbit hole and drop from Diamond all the way down to low plat or high gold

[blissful portal]

I was at 16th place and now lost 100 points and im at 23... i wish i could stop playing but 1 day of ratings can make a difference... plus i repeat why do players need to stop playing ratings thanks to WGs fault on letting new players get in ratings...

[mossy badger]

dont play then 4head

[lean zenith]

at this point, I don't expect WG to divert any resources to rating battles since any of the beneficial changes we suggest limit the fun for the less skilled playerbase. Yes 1 day of ratings could make a difference, but if your mind isn't in the game, it's gonna be the wrong difference. If you keep going on a losing streak, you don't have the positive mindset that might carry you to victory.

If you don't set the cap and it costs you your Fearless, then don't come here complaining. That was entirely on you for going down the rabbit hole

[mossy badger]

the fearless is not worth it

[autumn wave]

dude it’s easier if u play in like 2-3 months from now

[blissful portal]

I know its a normal IS-6 but i like to collect tanks and if i can get it for free i will take my chances

[mossy badger]

again dont
its not worth it
if u compare time spent and amount of money that could be earned this is one of the most expensive [REDACTED] tanks in the game

[lean zenith]

jajaja bungie redacted

[lime sparrow]

Playing ratings for the extra xp

[lean zenith]

and creds, Lowe actually big farms when you get like 2500 damage

[blissful portal]

I will grind all xp with gravity mode

[lean zenith]

How does one acquire the Veteran role

[blissful portal]

With over 50% wr and 25 or 20k battles if i remember correctly, look at pinned messages

[lean zenith]

Pinned for which channel

[blissful portal]

Yes, 50% WR and at least 25k battles

[lean zenith]

f, I still have 12k battles to go or something

[tall berry]

@lean zenith pinned messages in #general-blitz-discussion

[blissful portal]

Almost 200 points lose amazing the Joke Ratings

[autumn wave]

Is ratings like a job to u?

[pine falcon]

@blissful portal I am beginning to think you are the problem. I understand complaining once, twice, three times maybe eveb four or five... but you make sure you complain about 3-4 times a day. How come I am on 5400 and I haven't experienced any issues. The fact that lost 200 points while you are 5.1K just proves that its not the team... its you that is performing poorly

[autumn wave]

u are joining stevo and cancraker lol

[pine falcon]

^^^ pretty much my thoughts currently

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon different server genius... i dont give a f what you say, i have all my lost battles top dmg im the one that gets the stupid noobs

[autumn wave]

Take a break then

[blissful portal]

if i were like them i wouldnt reach diamond or be at top, last 2 days ive been going up points with no problems and today magically i get the stupid losing streaks

[pine falcon]

Ima jump on my NA account to see what your stats in rating are. Hold on

[autumn wave]

o

[pine falcon]

878... EIGHT HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT... HOW?you aren't even at 5.5k with that battle amount.... HOW JUST HOW????

Its not the teams....Its you. Blame yourself for losing so many points

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon What a brainless stupid u are how is it that i have that amount of battles... cause i get the shit players

[mossy badger]

@pine falcon dms

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon if im not talking to you then go and do something else instead of come and stat being an annoying kid

[mossy badger]

bruh we're tryna help u cure ur addiction
bro this is heartbreaking

[blissful portal]

Im on holidays thats why im playing that much, i only play ratings all day, not a single random battle

[pine falcon]

Its sad how you have sucked all the enjoyment out of the game and are trying to compensate for the lack if it by blaming others

[mossy badger]

bro have you heard the guy that got paralysis from playing a comp mode all day

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon As i said i dont give a f what u said cause u are not me and yes you are saying stupid things

[autumn wave]

🍿

[pine falcon]

Yeah its definitely easier to blame people for your own mistakes.

[dense bolt]

@pine falcon well said

[mossy badger]

exp0se or not to exp0se

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon haha you have mental problems it seem poor you

[mossy badger]

someone's being toxic

[pine falcon]

I may have mental problems sure. But they at least I know how to take responsibility and not try to throw the blame on others

[blissful portal]

@pine falcon Ohh believe me kid that when its my fault i dont complain

[pine falcon]

Considering you said you had vacation I am more likely to think you are the kid who is in summer vac.

[blissful portal]

But as i dont care what you say i know im right that i get noobs so your stupid comments are damaging my eyes

@pine falcon Poor you if you think that

[pine falcon]

You brain is already damaged so even if I damaged your eyes it won't make such a difference

[pine falcon]

Brilliant vid

[mossy badger]

pokes "owo whats dis" he said

[autumn wave]

lol

[pine falcon]

Like yeah. Why not poke out in front of a fully aimed med.... when you are a one shot. Its your own fault

[mossy badger]

too big brain for us

[pine falcon]

Anyways im off to bed. Cya

[autumn wave]

this was worth watching :]

[blissful portal]

@mossy badger lmao you seem in loved with me, plus 1 stupid picture does not show anything and as you can see my meds were stupid

[mossy badger]

that's not me 😉

[blissful portal]

Im talking about the fact that some "no life" are just investigating me lol

[mossy badger]

848 battles this season 🤔

[rigid mauve]

@autumn wave bot

[lean zenith]

Lololol ok hp omen pfp

[worldly anvil]

;-;

literally yesterday 🤔

[ornate spoke]

🧐

[blissful portal]

@worldly anvil You stupid i explained it to you yesterday

[worldly anvil]

@blissful portal bruh yes HE bounces
thats what i cant figure out
how do u bounce a t49 with HE in a t49

[blissful portal]

@worldly anvil ask the disguting RNG

[worldly anvil]

bruh
blaming rng is going to the dark side

[blissful portal]

but his HE took me out 800 dmg almost

[worldly anvil]

t49's HE alpha is 800
not that far of a reach

[blissful portal]

@worldly anvil i never blame rng, but that bs bounce was just incredible

[worldly anvil]

u pushed up solo while alone
your heavies took a while to get to your corpse
you couldve done damage
but, effectively, you went alone

[blissful portal]

Well it seems you didnt play that battle, my stupid med just left me, i pushed where every med and light would piush and you 49 pushed also there so the progetto and M4 Rev took corner

If you going to keep on investigating me make silence

[worldly anvil]

no

[lean zenith]

Just because you are a med/light does not mean you have to go med side. If your meds support, then go ahead. But if they all go heavy side, you should go with them and take a spotting position.

[nova ermine]

ping?

[mossy badger]

man this convo makes me wanna think when should WG take away the fearless reward smh

[warm charm]

Anyone in NA who plays rating a lot knows that darkest plays one of the most battles every season :/

[cyan crag]

All for just an is6, with a change of name and camo. 👀 🍿

[autumn wave]

Ikr

[lime sparrow]

@warm charm I may or may not have spent 1.2k battles in Spring Season just to get to Diamond. . .

4.6-4.9k bottleneck oh yeahhh

[tall berry]

looool im at 5.3k with 200 battles

[hazy bronze]

@tall berry That is good

[tall berry]

@blissful portal o and nice 0 game very pro player

[rigid mauve]

what's the diff between is6 and is6 fearless?

[lime sparrow]

Name and camo

@rigid mauve ^

[rigid mauve]

lmao I thought there was a different reason why people want it so bad, okay 👍🏾

[native marten]

iirc it’s because it came out at a time where there weren’t just a bunch of camos, so they made a whole separate tank (and I think it’s the same deal with the T34 1776 or whatever the name is)

[queen lichen]

It’s just for clout

[bleak crest]

@blissful portal bruh yes HE bounces
thats what i cant figure out
how do u bounce a t49 with HE in a t49
@worldly anvil by paying, of course

[fallen mortar]

Sure paying its not like hitting the gun or something or the track

[worldly anvil]

🤔

[junior flax]

Next season I will push for diamond league,says me who never got to platinum xD

Any helpfull tips?

[agile sphinx]

Calibrate using your most broken tank (panther 1 or tiger 2 are good tech tree ones) and probably not at tier 10, then just play whatever tank you enjoy and do fairly well in, meds and lights are better but other than that focus on teamwork rather than individual performance. A win always scores more than a loss (except for like 6k losses on low leagues and 0 damage wins possibly but that ignorable)

[junior flax]

And when should I push? Cause at first few days of season all the pro players comes lower...

🤔

[worldly anvil]

Mid season
Or 1 and a half weeks after initial season start

[agile sphinx]

I tend to calibrate as early as possible as that's when the most noobs calibrate so you get easy farming games but it's not to everyone's taste and playstyle so about a week and a half suits most people

[pine falcon]

Going from Honourless's post. For easier calibration is best to play in the first 1-2 hours of rating being opened for the season as that is when everyone is spamming battles including all of the bots. The other time to calibrate is to wait about a week so the good players clear from the range of 3K-4K

[bleak crest]

Best tip to perform in ratings is to visit the store on the day of calibration, choose the offers button and get a tank you like. Then you’ll be secure for this season and platinum is almost guaranteed by default. It does not matter if you have a 45% win rate and camp in the tier 8 VK heavy, things will look up nonetheless. As by magic, shots at your tank will bounce and your targets will get penned.

[mossy badger]

huh how come i hit 18th place and i havent bought anything in years

[desert kite]

Ladies and gentlemen, get your pop corn/coffee/whatever and read today’s enlightened delirium by cancracker

[native marten]

I personally like calibrating a bit after the first week (since I'm not gonna try to get fearless or anything) since I found that day 1 calibrations are just a mix between really good players and people still struggling to find the joystick after 5 minutes into the match

[neat slate]

Cancracker reminds me of this other fellow on the EU server that I have seen complain about rigged mm for the past 2 years in the global channel nearly everyday. Both are very stubborn.

[fallen mortar]

Wierd whenever I bought something my battles were worse 😂 guess people with skill don't get cans special MM

TrashCan would be a nice nickname

[marsh valley]

why get fearless when you can buy legend which looks better

[mossy badger]

doub

[pine falcon]

bcz fearless is free unlike the regular IS6

[agile sphinx]

How come I've bought the 131, rev, some sq crates, and probably quite a lot more in the last month but I did have a 37% WR at tier 10, now up to 41% and that's with 2.3k average damage. 🤔 @bleak crest

As a side note I'm not complaining about team I haven't been playing great but a lot of it is just luck and it can swing both ways 🤷‍♀️

[bleak crest]

I’m back in ratings at a new record this month. Clearly proves all I mentioned before.

[neat slate]

Hopefully the rigged mm will let you get out of gold

[queen lichen]

And that record is? What? 2k?

[desert kite]

Oof

[pine falcon]

that burned

[calm quail]

just play a dink donk superheavy like is-4
meta is great

[fallen mortar]

i just lost a serious amount of braincells reading trashCans comment

[queen lichen]

You and me both dude

[desert kite]

I probably do too. His posts make me laugh out loud and lose any form of hope in humans at the same time.

[ornate spoke]

Bruh ratings in asia is so trash. So many yolos with 4k ratings. Not even 30ppl are in q and there's so many trolls

[queen lichen]

Sounds like Asia (no offense don’t ban me)

[bleak crest]

On the EU server there’s so many campers in heavies with 4K ratings

[copper mauve]

oh look he’s back complaining again

[desert kite]

I camped in IS3D and gained a lot of points back but it's not the style of play I want.

[copper mauve]

insert gif of that guy laughing

[desert kite]

You need to camp in heavies.
Also from the exact same person who just complained about camping heavies

[copper mauve]

the hypocrisy is strong in this one

[desert kite]

Let me grab pop corn and wait for the next part of today’s delirium by cancracker

[agile sphinx]

@desert kite Damn it you got there before me with the quotes 😂

[desert kite]

Hah, gotcha🤣 fastest keyboard in the west

[bleak crest]

So much for rating and what it means. His win rate is fully deserved based on what he did.

[copper mauve]

nice censoring, why do you even play rating? For the IS-6?

[desert kite]

Because it gives him occasions to rant about everything he wants, so cancracker can enlighten our day with his hilarious and kind of stupid complaints

[bleak crest]

I play rating because this is how the game should be structured in order to have balanced battles. Random doesn’t cut it. It’s too much 7-0 and 0-7. Not much fun but ratings should be developed and offer balanced games as expected by the player base. So such players should not get in higher leagues.

[autumn wave]

🍿

[ornate spoke]

Your complaints of 7-0 or 0-7 battles show a misunderstanding of the the game. It appears that you underestimate the influence that one good player can have on a game as well as how much losing a tank early influences the game. One player taking a aggressive position and catching the reds in the open can seal the battle. Ratings or pubs makes no difference. If you want to win more then you need to do more. You need to stop looking at your team and what they could have done better and instead look at yourself and what YOU could have done better.

I get it though. Self reflection can be a hard and ugly path to go down... It's much easier to just blame the game for not giving you the teammates that you seem to think that you deserve.

[pine falcon]

I haven't played rating for like 3-4 days and I have only dropped 7 positions. No one is even trying to push hard

[native marten]

yo can we just take a minute to appreciate the fact that a 42%er has managed to reach platinum before cancracker

[white spruce]

5 parts for the fearless, a avatar available 24/7/365, and a camo which will eventually be relegated to plat league aren’t worth the rage imo

[queen lichen]

Because they had a strategy other than going and buying something you think you’ll like

[white spruce]

At the start of every season I’m like yeah I’m gonna push this season and then I get 3 days in and I already have ptsd

[queen lichen]

^^^^

[neat slate]

If cancracker actually did some self reflection and wasn’t so fixated on his teams performance, he could be there too.

[queen lichen]

If I wasn’t lazy I’d be there too but here we are

[lime sparrow]

Good afternoon, i am here for my daily dose of D4rk3st_Savage and Cancracker

[tall berry]

facts especially the very op d4rk3st_savage

[desert kite]

welcome, get your pop corn before it starts @lime sparrow

[native marten]

if all 3 of them spent 1/2 their time complaining about matchmaking on playing the game then they'd all be above 5k

[queen lichen]

If all three of them stopped complaining all together Blitz would be saved

[tall berry]

well d4rk3st savage is above 5k but he has like 1000 battles so it’s irrelevant

[lime sparrow]

hey... I spent 1k battles to get above 5k too...

The difference is that I don’t whine like an absolute nunce whenever I enter a terrible losing streak. I just keep playing and losing some more until I eventually start winning again 😎

[desert kite]

I should start camping in rating with my heavies aswell and cry every single game I lose, we definitively need our fourth horsemen of ratings rant

[native marten]

The 4 horsemen of the WG WoTB Official Server ratings channel

[pine falcon]

who is the fourth tho?

[native marten]

guess we'll just have to wait lol

I mean somebody's bound to do it, we started off at a time where stevo was the only complaining constantly

[desert kite]

I’m tempted to purposely become the fourth but at the same time I’m not lol

[queen lichen]

Bruh

[lean zenith]

oof

[desert kite]

I don’t know if you feel the same, but their complaints everyday are so ridiculous it makes me burst of laughter. If I can enlighten your day by also giving you such laughs then why not 😂 I’ll need to do my best to print walls of texts to complain about everything

[bleak crest]

42% stood in a corner the whole battle, full hp, top tier and waited for the 3 remaining reds to get him. So I bet doing that won’t get anyone to the platinum league unless he pays a lot like this guy did. What other explanation is there? Oh, yeah, ratings is not working quite right as some people already noticed...

[native marten]

Cancracker, you’re absolutely right on every single bit about spending money to get preferential matchmaking, except for one part, and that’s the entire thing

[desert kite]

^ if his theory was right, cancracker himself would be a 45% player if he was f2p

[lime sparrow]

Here’s the thing. The 4th horseman isn’t something that you can just “will” yourself into becoming

You have to be a whiny nunce nugget by nature.
It must be
inherent

[desert kite]

Sadly yes. Even with all the commitment I can involve into it, I would never reach the peak of greatness that these 3 are in terms of pointless, ridiculous yet still funny rants

[native marten]

lowkey all 3 of them could become professional comedians by talking about WoTB rigged matchmaking

[bleak crest]

A clanmate of mine started to pay regularly and gets much better results since then. And at every crate offer he buys a set of creates for 10€. He got all tanks the wanted bar one this year, including smasher. Of course it all a coincidence as well as his win rate going up...

[desert kite]

We here have no informations on your potentially ghost clanmate that might have been invented three minutes ago to demonstrate your theory. If he exists and his wr has been going up, maybe that he has started doing what you seem to be strictly unable to do, aka looking at what you did wrong and working to not commit again the mistakes you made.

[white spruce]

He did a favor for a wizard and now has good luck forever

[native marten]

Nah man his friend’s money for the crates went to the rigged matchmaking wizard, who purposely makes your team have a lot more better players than the enemy team for sure

[desert kite]

@bleak crest anyways if you don’t wanna write the username of your ghost clanmate here then my dm’s are open, I’ll make sure to check how he’s been doing😉

[bleak crest]

Try it out yourself if you don't believe. Start by buying premium time for the rest of the year then buy crates. After a few years of doing that you will win tanks in crates faster and your win rate will increase. He spends on average 10€ a month so it's not much if you want to win a lot.
I care for a level playing field so I don't want easy wins just cause I spend money.

[native marten]

I care for a level playing field so I don't want easy wins just cause I spend money.
is it just me or do you always complain about losses, not easy wins

[opaque edge]

Interesting theory

[desert kite]

I certainly will not spend money on tanks/crates I do not need just because you are still recklessly trying to prove your entirely wrong, stupid and utterly ridiculous theory @bleak crest

[pine falcon]

@bleak crest I need to have a conversation with you since you are constantly complaining that paying people get better MM. So on to my message. My account is completely free 2 play. I have earned everything by working hard and maintaining my persistence. I haven't given WG anything (at least on the R_sevik21 aka my main account) yet I am still able to get 59%wr overall and am at 5.4K rating in less that 400 battles. You are delusional paying for ingame items gives you better MM. You need help.

[desert kite]

You can’t help someone that straight up refuses to learn

[native marten]

I want to make a reply to cancracker's message but I honestly have no idea what to say at this point

[desert kite]

I’d still like him to tell me the username of his fake and 200% invented ghost clanmate he mentioned above in his 27 936th attempt to prove his premium preferential mm theory

[pine falcon]

I really want to play a couple of games with cancracker to see his battle performance. I want to see if it would turn out like stevo with the icp countdowns in which I met him 7 or 8 times. In all of those battles he was in the bottom half of the team by damage while I was always in the top half. I just want to know if canny is the same

[queen lichen]

I’ll bet 5$ that’s exactly how it is

[native marten]

Funnily enough, cancracker actually has quite a few premium tanks himself and yet he still complains

[queen lichen]

How many is quite a few? cough my pay to have fun booty probably has more cough

[native marten]

Well, he currently has 9 in his 30-day

[opaque edge]

I have read somewhere that some premiums does preferential MM, but even with that you have no guarantee winning anything

[native marten]

Maybe around 15-ish if you wanna include the 60-day

[desert kite]

There’s something I wanna say to him but I won’t since it would admittedly be very harsh, unconvenient and he wouldn’t like to read that.

[queen lichen]

cough I have more imma cry now cough

[pine falcon]

27 premiums if I counted correctly on blitzstars but I do believe he has gotten most of them for free or maybe even all. I do believe that because I myself have a couple of premium tanks more than him and all are earned without money

[desert kite]

Nope, he admittedly bought at least one of his prems (T34) recently

[native marten]

That's possible, but there's a few he spent money on (the T34, he admitted he had bought it)
yep as stated above

[pine falcon]

Well I still do believe most are earned without cash.

[desert kite]

Still, despite his own theory and the fact he payed, his stats didn’t seem to climb that much since he started playing, 72k battles ago🤡

[native marten]

Yeah maybe I guess, but there's a few like the skorpion g that I don't recall ever being free in an event or something

[pine falcon]

in fact its going down currently @desert kite

[desert kite]

Precisely. even though I do believe his average tier is below 7

[pine falcon]

6.41 career wise

[solar stratus]

What does this got to do with ratings tho

[desert kite]

6.60ish this month

[pine falcon]

@solar stratus we are discussing people who complain about rating

[solar stratus]

Ah alright cool

[crimson goblet]

ah i see the usual can rant is going on again

[desert kite]

What does this got to do with ratings tho
@solar stratus the fact he has legit rights or not to complain all day long about bad teams and supposed preferential mm for players buying stuff

[solar stratus]

epic

[queen lichen]

It’s utter bull, like this kid thinks that Skill comes to you when you throw money at the game

[pine falcon]

its utter bull, like this kid think that banana bread comes from expensive slow cookers

[crimson goblet]

i still have a video held back of one of our 2 specialists which i met ingame and then ranting to me in pms, man i really wanna post it but im gonna hold it back still

[queen lichen]

This man and banana bread 🤣

[native marten]

the current 3 horsemen of ratings battles
stevo - "wg is purposely rigging my matches and I go on the flank alone and take out 2 lower tier tanks in a 252u but my team loses what is wrong with my team"
cancracker - "buying from wg makes them rig your matches in your favor"
darkest - "broooo what are my teammates doing"

[desert kite]

@crimson goblet my dm’s are open, feel free to share

[crimson goblet]

i still have to censor the name before i get complaints of naming and shaming

[queen lichen]

Not in DM’s 😉

[crimson goblet]

then i might finally upload it

[desert kite]

the current 3 horsemen of ratings battles
stevo - "wg is purposely rigging my matches and I go on the flank alone and take out 2 lower tier tanks in a 252u but my team loses what is wrong with my team"
cancracker - "buying from wg makes them rig your matches in your favor"
darkest - "broooo what are my teammates doing"
@native marten ahhahahaha we need to get that in the pinged messages for this channel

[crimson goblet]

Not in DM’s 😉
@queen lichen good point

[pine falcon]

I believe I have recordings of 5 different battles from the time I posted the screenshots of the countdowns with stevo but I will need to get them off the memory card of my dead phone.

[desert kite]

legend has it that one day the fourth horsemen of ratings rant will wake up and bless us with daily enlightened complaints

[crimson goblet]

i think a podcast of all 4 would be legendary

[desert kite]

yes

[queen lichen]

Once that mythical fourth arrives, it will be the glue to bring together all competent players, from all regions of the world.

[pine falcon]

The 3 complainers remind me of the star wars sith rule of 2. First it began with stevo - the first sith. Then stevo obtained an apprentice -cancracker. They were both very active until stevo disappeared. Now cancracker has obtained an apprentice - d4rk3st. We will need to see if the model of two continues

[crimson goblet]

ah yes, the rule of 2 😂

[desert kite]

yeah, such a shame for stevo. I’d like to read his complaints more

[crimson goblet]

i think i need to make my vid soon, but blurring takes ages >.<"

[desert kite]

Good luck doing that, I can’t wait to see it😛

[pine falcon]

It will be interesting... to say the least

[queen lichen]

Indeed

[crimson goblet]

ofc, because its always fun seeing 80k battle players complain about rigging and rng protection

[desert kite]

who doesn’t love that?

[crimson goblet]

like then why tf do you still play the game for 80k(!!!!!) games?

[desert kite]

I started learning after 5k battles. For some fast reacting people apparently 80k isn’t enough

[pine falcon]

Both stevo and canny have 70K+ games and thats just random battles

[native marten]

cancracker be the type of dude to claim that buying from WG makes you win more and then also be like "why does this guy with 500 battles with a premium have a 30% win rate"

[queen lichen]

Fr

[native marten]

literally the people that cancracker complains about are the same people that disprove his theory

[crimson goblet]

anyone here i can hire to blurr the vid for me?😂

[pine falcon]

the god is here, typing

[desert kite]

how much do ya pay? 🤡

[crimson goblet]

a hellcat camo

[pine falcon]

a hellcat camo is priceless tho.

[desert kite]

I saw him typing

[crimson goblet]

how dare you sevik

[pine falcon]

Idk how dare I?

[desert kite]

seeing that vid would be enough of a salary ngl

[native marten]

cancracker's probably trying to figure out how to explain that people who buy premium tanks right when they start the game aren't affected by the wg rigged matchmaking process @desert kite

[queen lichen]

Super brain

[crimson goblet]

galaxy brain

[queen lichen]

Galaxy braib

[desert kite]

@native marten yet after 72k games he is still immune to the premium mm effects although he bought stuff

[crimson goblet]

weird aint it

[native marten]

maybe he just needs to buy more tanks lol

[queen lichen]

Buy a smasher then you’re set

[crimson goblet]

i mean if you cant even get 2k average on t10, whilst my friend who hasnt played for long yet gets 2.5k on some of her t10 is quite questionable isnt it

[queen lichen]

Correct

[desert kite]

well his average tier for the past 30 days is 6,60, I get he isn’t used to play t8 for ratings

[crimson goblet]

guess so

[desert kite]

we still lack the 4th horsemen of ratings rant but we have the four (probably more) horsemen of roasting the four horsemen of ratings rant

[queen lichen]

I’d give it a week

[crimson goblet]

i think its because we have so many horsemen of no camo that the rating-horsemen are of a rare breed only rarely known to mankind

[desert kite]

probably true

[queen lichen]

The select few, selected by RNGesus himself

[crimson goblet]

the god we dont need but still deserve

[desert kite]

^😂

[crimson goblet]

he has blessed us with the special kind only to be met in their natural habitat

[restive dawn]

Nice spam

[queen lichen]

Thanks I spammed it myself

[crimson goblet]

😂

[restive dawn]

Topic the same rigged mm as always?

[desert kite]

we were just roasting can and his theory, nothing unusual really

[queen lichen]

Indeed, we have 3/4 horsemen

[crimson goblet]

no, we are discussing the rare sight of our rating-complaint-horsemen, rare and only to be found within the realms of this channel

[native marten]

yo the god cancracker is speaking

[desert kite]

he’s there

[bleak crest]

That guy deserves 42% wr for staying in the corner behind buildings the whole game? More like 30%
And he definitely gets better teams in ratings.

[queen lichen]

He has spoken

[restive dawn]

Well i thank you but id rather keep my current wr

[crimson goblet]

wise words were brought down to the humans of limited knowledge

[fallen mortar]

oh trashCan is back

[queen lichen]

🎉🎉🎉

[next garnet]

@bleak crest I don’t think I understand. Can you explain to me how you think matchmaking works? I’d love to hear your take on this.

[queen lichen]

The man doesn’t know ^^

[fallen mortar]

all hail the new ratings god since stevo seems to havent been able to claim his throne

[autumn wave]

lol

[desert kite]

I camped in IS3D and gained a lot of points back but it's not the style of play I want.
@bleak crest

[bleak crest]

Matchmaking works?

[native marten]

you see apparently by spending 10 bucks a month, you get preferential matchmaking and then WG gives you hugs and kisses

[fallen mortar]

do i get the kisses where i want them ?

[next garnet]

Yes, can you tell me how it functions?

[bleak crest]

That guy wasn’t doing anything. He was basically hiding. All the damage he did was when they found him. There’s a difference...

[restive dawn]

If i use money the day's wr is like 30 then

[bleak crest]

I can’t explain it otherwise, so I showed an example. You can draw the conclusions yourself. Fact is things ar far from Ok in ratings as one team works together while the other one is all over the map. Those guys that don’t work together shouldn’t get that high in ratings and should not meet players that want to cooperate. Why isn’t that a good idea to implement?

[fallen mortar]

time = money so if i spend time on the game = i spend money so i have good MM

[desert kite]

explain what? that you are unable to improve and blame the others instead? @bleak crest

[restive dawn]

Just win more no need a special mm

[crimson goblet]

because 1 example definitely justifies it and gives a full explanation

[native marten]

I mean the general conclusion we got from your example is that your theory is pretty wrong @bleak crest

[desert kite]

Precisely

[fallen mortar]

how dare you gods like him cant be wrong

[native marten]

oh u right

[restive dawn]

Is this all about winning less in ratings than in randoms? Cuz if it is im out

[fallen mortar]

bad MM for eternity for you

[queen lichen]

Oh GoD nO

[bleak crest]

There are more examples out there but this one I just met today and is the most blatant one.

[native marten]

but what if I spend 10 dollars a month then can my matchmaking go back to normal

[desert kite]

ofc it’s harder to win t8 ratings than T6 pubs, can’s stats show it

[queen lichen]

^^^

[fallen mortar]

@native marten no because you said our lord an savior isnt speaking the truth for that you shall be punished

[pine falcon]

damn I missed a good 10 minutes of cancracker posts

[desert kite]

yes

[fallen mortar]

@pine falcon i did aswell so i try catching up xD

[bleak crest]

It’s not a single player, it’s the team. If the reds work together you lose, simple as that.

[native marten]

what if I confess my sins to the one and only cancracker

[crimson goblet]

then maybe work together with your team,how bout that

[desert kite]

It’s not a single player, it’s the team. If the reds work together you lose, simple as that.
@bleak crest that’s no rigged mm, it’s just the enemy playing smarter than you and your team

[fallen mortar]

Praise our lord and confess your sins and there may be mercy for you

[queen lichen]

Never my sins keep me company

[bleak crest]

They are spread all over the map and they meet 7 reds. The end result is clear. Those guys lose game 6 vs 3.

[pine falcon]

@bleak crest so do your best in battles where the "reds work together you lose" and then do your best in battles where your team works together and the enemy loses. This will make your rating go up... instead of what you are used to aka losing points

[queen lichen]

Nope you gotta buy a premium first

[pine falcon]

he apparently bought a T34 so he has that covered

[queen lichen]

Then he’ll make it to #1 ez

[desert kite]

yes

[pine falcon]

the game can not legally make you lose without your consent

[native marten]

dude that's actually straight facts

[queen lichen]

🤣🤣

[fallen mortar]

its the law i cant loose without my consent

[native marten]

Losing? Just say no, the game cannot make you legally lose without your consent

-Confucius or abraham lincoln or someone

[desert kite]

Time for me to go sleep, I’d like to thank all the other horsemen of roasting cancracker. cya everyone

[queen lichen]

Cya m8, may the enemy team have people like Cracker

[desert kite]

😂

[fallen mortar]

imagine having Can and Stevo in the enemy team

[native marten]

imagine them both being on your team and feeling the presence of not one but TWO absolute ratings gods on your team and become enlightened and achieve nirvana

[fallen mortar]

i wouldnt be able to see anything because thier aura is so bright

and how should i move beeing on the ground praising them

and carry them xD

[lean zenith]

Having stevo and cracker on the enemy team is gonna be so good for me, I'll just farm them. Sadly, they're on EU and I'm on NA

Also, every tank has "preferential" mm for the first few battles. Preferential meaning you will be top tier. I do have a hunch that premiums and probably collectors have more of these preferential battles than tech tree tanks, but I have yet to test this theory.

[queen lichen]

NA has the toxic racist kids, EU has Stevo and can

[lean zenith]

I encounter more salt in random battles or the special game modes than ratings.
I want people to dm me about their salt though

[pine falcon]

asia is missing a contender. RU (on the ru discord) have a WHOLE LOT of participants in this race for braindead championship

[lean zenith]

I'm pretty sure all of asia is a whole level below these clowns

[mossy badger]

hmm i haven't been here for a day or two but it looks like darkest literally got bullied out of this channel lmfao

[lean zenith]

@ D4rk3st_Savage [SRN]

[blissful portal]

Yes? What happened?

[queen lichen]

Literally nothing

[lean zenith]

🍿 take this and read from yesterday to now

[restive dawn]

Its not very likely to get stevo and can in the same team unless thwy play tier 10

[blissful portal]

@lean zenith something important? too many messages

[tall berry]

🤡

[lean zenith]

Too many messages to come up with a tldr, just read it yourself

[neat slate]

Haven’t seen stevo talk here for a bit, maybe he got to 6k so has no need to complain anymore!

[lean zenith]

@ stevo1100r#2917

[lime sparrow]

Aren’t they in different regions

[lean zenith]

Dark is in NA, but stevo and can are in EU i believe

[next garnet]

Rip dark

[sage steeple]

Hi dear Devs !
There is a non-sense here imo... WG should not mix different stats on the profile screen.
If you consider for WR only 2 battles, then you should show "Number of battles 2"
OR
add a new line :
"Battles played without WR"
(Blitzstars doesn't take in consideration battles played in MODS or RATING...)
OR EVEN BETTER :
"WR in ratings and mods" separatly

I'll be curious to read your opinion guys.

GL DEVS AND THANKS A LOT FOR ALL THE STUF AND THE AMAZING WORK YOU DO FOR US !!

LeBigTed

[glossy raptor]

Blitzstars dont count stats from gamemodes or rating

[crimson goblet]

precisely,as it they dont affect stats they cant track it

[restive dawn]

i dare you to play 5 more games

[crimson goblet]

because of players like him rating should have a minimum battle cap of atleast 5-7.5k

[ornate spoke]

More than 4K damage and lose points.... how much I need to do to don’t lose points with a team that make 3k damage ? It is random battles not a rating battle, I have too much players in my team who don’t know where to go and where to push at 4K rating.... It is becoming boring....

[crimson goblet]

damage is not everything

[ornate spoke]

I know

[sage steeple]

precisely,as it they dont affect stats they cant track it
@crimson goblet Hi,
Are you sure about this ? Where does that come from ?
(not saying it is BS, because this answer makes sense imo, and i would like to be sure... 😉 )

[crimson goblet]

i am 100% sure about it, because blitzstars takes it from wgs api, so if the games would be tracked it would show up, all that rating does is change the battle counter, but it never affected the stats, same goes for any other gamemode

[next gull]

You actually know your rating stats (ingame) for the running season as well as blitzstars returns your current rating even during calibration. So there must be much more available than displayed ingame. But, indeed, your rating stats are not taken into account in your carreer stats.

[heavy sierra]

ratings dont deserve the title... its just random games with points... playing more and more gives you more and more points.. there is no skill playing 1000 games in one season and reach 4k or 5k.. spamming games is no skill imo. in every other ranked game there are some requirements to fulfill. one of the most important points should be the players amount of total games.. i see players with less than 1000 games playing ratings.. its no fun for them and no fun for rest of team. i know i know, queuetimes blahblahblah... but if ratings wanna be a serious gamemode they have to make some requirements to participate, not just playing 10 calibrationgames and thats it...
pls wg to be kind a e-sportsgame give us a better ratingssystem ❤️

[sage steeple]

Ok so nowadays, WR doesn't take in consideration number of battles anymore, since we got RATINGS & MODS BATTLES...
Maybe just add a line under the WR (Number of battles taken in consideration for WR)

[pine falcon]

i got to say that I agree with every single point you made apart from one. When you get to 4.7K/4.8K you start meeting actually good players (at least most of the time) and after that point players actually know how to play, making the game nothing like randoms. but apart from that I agree with you. @heavy sierra

[sage steeple]

@crimson goblet Thanks for your answer mate ! I didn't realized it was 3VERY 😉

@pine falcon Regarding RATING, i am currently 3700 with T95 only around 70 battles (started from 2800), and when i have MM giving me the opportunity to play a game with 4100/4200 rating average, i am surprised to see so many bad players at this level... With noob mystakes, no map awarness, no team play, no basic skills such as side scrapp hull down... I can't not say it was 100% of the time, but it happened to me enough times to realize it...

[silver acorn]

ratings mm is like regular mm in asia there are 46% or below avg wr there are silver leagues in diamond leagues there are afks there are kids who talk rubbish all the time

also what is the formula of calculating rating points cuz my friend go 12 points from 1st class and 16 from 2nd in diamond league

[lime sparrow]

lol

[opaque edge]

U could ask then - what is class given for? Answer this and then u know which stats doesn't count towards reward for winning Ratings battle

[next gull]

Rating as well as wr are relative scales. Maybe you find 4k rating players bad, but they are still better than those at 3k
Obviously, this has a meaning only after a reasonnable amount of battles played within the scale considered.

[next gull]

@heavy sierra thing is that approximately 75% of the playing player base has less than 5k battles atm. I don't know where you would put the bar in number of battles played to enter ratings, but it would have to be very low in any case.

[ornate spoke]

If you are like a newbie and have like around 2k battles only but instead of actually grinding to tier 10 , you're playing around tier 8 to mostly, shouldn't the player at least know more weak spots of tanks near tier 8/9? I see people complain about penetration more than matchmaking whenver I play. They blame mm for meeting players with a higher tier tank.

Nvm what I said above. What I wanna ask is does spamming REALLY makes a player reach diamond? I see people with the same username everyday in ratings but, their ratings kinda remains the same. Also wanna know if other regions have more ppl in queue. Asia has around 20 ppl in queue whenever I play.

[lime sparrow]

I got into diamond by 1.2k battles

[ornate spoke]

Ohhh also noticed a thing. Due to event mode the ratings battle might have lower players in q

[pine falcon]

aight. Just got myself a new phone. I will be back on the rating grind in about an hour after wotb finishes downloading

[next gull]

I don't think spamming battles is enough and that you plateau at some point.

[agile sphinx]

The plateau seems to be just over 6k, and it seems to be the same for every player from decent to pro which is why the points system sucks. The only difference in points based off skill is how fast you go up, and so the people with the most time will always be at the top

[restive dawn]

doesnt it usually take like 100-150 to get into diamond?

[pine falcon]

for you maybe. For me it takes about 200-300 normally and this season I lucked out to only get there with about 160 battles.

[hazy bronze]

How to get diamond league all depending on where you place and when you start if play well go 4k and then wait for 2 week then most likey like 100 games or less or 120 at most.

[lean zenith]

I do have a hunch that driving more and travelling more km leads to more xp, but I have yet to prove it. I remember getting a second class for just sitting and camping 4k damage. The next game was a 3.2k damage ace, but i travelled to the enemy spawn and back. Iirc, both games barely had any assist or spot.

[hazy bronze]

Sometimes i wish ratings would always be available

[lean zenith]

then it would just be Random battles with a point system

[next gull]

The plateau being the same for everyone does not make sense to me.
Do you think that without reset everyone would be at 6k rating eventually ? 45% wr at 6k would meet a 65% wr at 6k too, but they would still both remain both 6k ?

[restive dawn]

the deathstar aint the best climber but i assume it still wont take over 250

[median wagon]

4.9k today

Gonna make the push torwards 5k tomorrow

[marsh sail]

Decent game, but why do I only go up 16?

[mossy badger]

you go up by 16? what a godsend

[agile sphinx]

I'm not too sure about people under 50% but for low 50% WRs I think it's definitely possible for them to stay at 6k. This season I've been playing when I'm extremely tired and so very bad, and have also been unlucky with teams. My stats are as follows:

80/173 wins, or 46.24% WR
4228 calibration, 4690 so far so a gain of 462 points or +2.67 points per battle.
At tier 10 I have a 41.86% WR with 2354 average damage and 43 games, and I have gained 52 points.

These are roughly what I would imagine a mid-low 50% player could do, and I am still gaining points at the 4.6k margin. As you get further up it becomes harder to earn points as the scaling is less, not because you lose more and win less so this would hold true at high ratings as well. @next gull

[marsh sail]

Is it a nightmare for pts at diamond?

[mossy badger]

u get happy for getting 3 points rather than 2 for a 4.5k damage game

[marsh sail]

.

So you climb less, if your opponents are a lower rating than you? And climb more if they’re equal or above your skill tier? Got it.

[glossy raptor]

Correct

[crimson goblet]

no, thats false, your point gain depends on your current rating, the higher you go the less points you get on average, after crossing 5.5 u will be happy to even get 10 on occasion

[lime sparrow]

... that's basically what Fiddle was trying to confirm

[restive dawn]

Ive only once done 6k and that was so dumb that 183 ratings are the cure

[pallid arch]

Load ap and shoot 3 times=up in ratings in the 183

[snow surge]

There are 2 problems with ratings.

1. No real rewards. Only rewards are an avatar and a possible camo(as well as a tiny chance for gold or the Fearless). To get extra xp for each battle u need all modules researched- who will spend 1hrs worth of exp on tracks?

2. OP prems. You already know how so much of the community hates overpowered vehicles in rating. One new thing that has come to light- WoT PC banned a select list of premium vehicles (including the Super Conqueror and T-22 Medium) from their rating/ranked battle system a week ago. I hope that WoTB will do the same.

Thanks for reading, have an excellent day.

[pallid arch]

Once you get above 5.5k, there is a very noticeable boost in the credit income. For someone like me that is constantly starved of credits, it really helps.

[marsh sail]

Premiums tanks are only a problem at tier 8 rating battles, in my opinion.

[hazy bronze]

@Fiddlebop#6083 that player you meant all random.

[marsh sail]

@marsh sail that player you meant all random.
@hazy bronze sorry, can you rephrase that? Don't quite understand what you are trying to get at.

[copper mauve]

@snow surge PC didn’t ban the S.Conq.

Most of the “OP” premium problems come from tier 8/7. The 252 and Smasher both come to mind, but remember, you can still kill them with ease if you coordinate well with your team.

[pallid arch]

The Sconq is a tech tree on pc. The broken brit tier 10 you mean is the the t95/fv4201

[snow surge]

@pallid arch ur right, my bad- they banned the fvt95 too
@copper mauve I agree- you can still kill them if your coordinate with the team. But teams( in ranked OR rating) rarely communicate, bad teamwork is famous 🚀
@marsh sail t10s in WoT and t8s in WoTB are the problem for each. WoT fixed their problem tier, so should we.

[pine falcon]

The only real problematic ranked battle tanks were the 279e and the fv4201. However even though they were only two cancer tanks, they were spammed by whoever owned one making them appear like a plague. However if something of this sort happened it blitz several issues arise. First is that we are on multiple tiers, not just a single one meaning that if one collertor/prem tank is banned, all collector/prem tanks will need to be banned for all tiers which will drastically reduce the low regular rating players as a big portion of them are rerolls with a tier 8 tank. The second thing arises of wg only limit some of the prem/collector tanks. The problem with that is how will wg decide which tanks to ban. If wg go off average tank wr, then lets say the Fearless will get banned because only skillful players are playing it meaning it has high wr and even though it is completely balanced it will get the ban.
What I am trying to say is that imposing more regulation and barriers, more players will not be able to play further killing this already dead game mode.

[next gull]

Agreed with why premium can not been banned. They will not (at tier 7-8) either because, imo, I suspect that ratings are a playground/incentive for pushing new players to buy and to try high tiers without consequences, stats-wise.
I also think that players with high rating think that this is a dead game mode because, mathematically, the higher you get the less players with your rating. If you are navigating below 4k, like 95% of the players, you have no difficulties finding games with your rating. And I tend to think that after a sizeable amount of rating battles (say 100) your rating tells where your skill belongs, like it or not.

@agile sphinx I understand that the plateau may not be associated with 50% wr and may well be below that. However, I think that a 45% wr player in a 6k rating team would not average 2.3k damage at tier 10 consistently. He would probably average 900 damages and get 41% wr when meeting 3k rating teams.
This is just a gut feeling though.

[opaque edge]

Rating battles do not count towards your stats? Like win, loss ratio?

[agile sphinx]

@next gull The normal average for teams when you are at 6k is anything from 4k to 5.5k, and they probably wouldn't manage to hold that damage but they would manage a higher WR because 41% is on the verge of afking every game, and so they would gain more points from that. It would be difficult for a 45% player for sure, but over 55% at a bare minimum should be able to get to 6k fine with battle spamming and that is a hell of a lot of the playerbase. It's a reasonable gut feeling and it's about the best we can do lol

@opaque edge It counts towards the battles shown on the main page of your stats but not you WR at all.

[opaque edge]

Ha, I didn't know that, why so? To me it's weird

The main reason I personally play Rating battle is to prove myself the level I can go to and compete with better players. The tank reward or whatever is going there is secondary to me. All I want from rating battles is battles not to end in under 1 minute when teams a so bad that it ends in first encounter. I have watched Martin Dogger video where he too says that you can get high Rating just by spamming games - I dont agree with this. There will be point in time when you just wont go above "your skill" level

[bleak crest]

Met him in ratings, he is well within the platinum league.

[copper mauve]

are you here to complain again

[bleak crest]

I’m here to help improve things in ratings and create a level playing field based solely on player quality and a solid league system.

[copper mauve]

mostly by complaining?

[warm charm]

They really need a minimum battle cap for ratings, saw a mk6 with 80 battles and played in ratings, he’s only 2k now but when he was in calibration he could’ve easily been in 5k rating teams

[restive dawn]

go and present your ideal rating system to wg

[warm charm]

If they had a minimum battle cap of 2k it would make ratings a lot better by getting rid of these pay to get t10 and first t7 players at the cost of maybe 5-10% of the playerbase

[glossy raptor]

Yeah but the waiting would be longer too

[next gull]

@warm charm you really think that 2k battles represents 5-10% of the playerbase ?
FYI, they were nearly 45% of the player base in update 7.0.

[neat slate]

So... I got this guy in ratings 😆
Guess he really likes the smasher.

[median wagon]

That’s depressing

@neat slate what medals does he have with it

[neat slate]

Not much tbh. He has 4 pools medals and 13 kolobanovs.

In 12,000 battles, he has mastered the tank 7 times

[median wagon]

What a noob

[neat slate]

12,000 battles is 50% of my career battles. Insane how much people play

[median wagon]

Did he camp in the match

[crimson goblet]

So... I got this guy in ratings 😆
Guess he really likes the smasher.
@neat slate ah yes, super op tank as we can see by the stats on that man

[median wagon]

It’s quite usual as it’s 99% of the time pure noobs who own this tank

[neat slate]

He didnt actually. He was quite aggressive

[bleak crest]

What about other tanks he has in the garage?

[median wagon]

1 battle for each of them

[neat slate]

He has 6000 battles in an su 100 and su 100y.
He has 50k battles so he has a lot of tanks, but not high tier. He only has 400 battles in tier 9 and 10

He very much likes his high alpha guns lol. I dont care what he plays, its his account, I just thought 12k battles in smasher was funny and I had not seen it before

[median wagon]

What’s his highest average damage tank and how much?

[neat slate]

Its the smasher shown above

[median wagon]

1.3k is his highest average, what a joke

[restive dawn]

You?

[median wagon]

For tanks over 100 battles? Let me check

[neat slate]

Im not good enough to reach 3k average damage, I always eventually drop as I play more

[median wagon]

Jagdtiger with 2.6k

[copper mauve]

@neat slate make a new account and farm, then quit

[neat slate]

Nah im not gonna reroll lol.

I have gotten so close before, stb 1 I held 3k by 50 battles, but now I am at 130 ish battles and 2800 average damage

[median wagon]

Reroll accounts are not skilful, they have insane stats because the first 5k matches is newbie mm

[restive dawn]

What is considered as good avg dmg?

[median wagon]

2.5k in tier X

[restive dawn]

3k or bust

[neat slate]

Thats pretty subjective. You are doing decent if you can hit 2k average damage as that is most definitely better than the average player. I think ‘good’ is when you start edging closer or you are on/above 3k

[median wagon]

3k is insane, 2.5k is good

[crimson goblet]

i think as long as you do your hp in dmg its good

[restive dawn]

3k not even hard espesially due the heavy buff

[copper mauve]

@crimson goblet agreed

[restive dawn]

1010 avg dmg in isu:)

[median wagon]

Ah, and some people only have high average because of damage stealing

[restive dawn]

Whats that?

[neat slate]

I got the maus the other day, and I am sitting on 2.4k );

[median wagon]

Low kills high damage I think

[restive dawn]

How is that dmg stealing?

I can shoot him but i do not shoot him cuz that would be stealing his hp?

[neat slate]

Dont be selfish, give your 40 wrs some of the hp

[restive dawn]

Like for example leaving them in a 1v1 situation?

[copper mauve]

remember: rating is just 1v13

[median wagon]

Rating is trash rn

[restive dawn]

After what point you are stealing dmg? After like 3k avg dmg?

[median wagon]

It’s just stealing damage instead of making good contribution

[neat slate]

Passive play?

[median wagon]

Yes

[restive dawn]

This leads to tds being passive and stealing dmg?

[median wagon]

If they’re camping yes

[lime sparrow]

It’s situational.

[restive dawn]

So if i sit in spawn in normandy with 183 and hesh the ones thst peak over the mid hills im stealing dmg

[cosmic cypress]

Yeah why didn’t you let the light tanks farm them down with dpm smh

[pine falcon]

Rating is against me today ;-;

[pine falcon]

Never mind the previous message, tables have turned

[native marten]

idk how you can really "damage steal" since at some point somebody's gonna take that HP away, might as well make it yourself

[viscid ravine]

Uwu

[warm charm]

The only time u really steal dmg is when ur blocking ur teammates from shooting someone or ur farming afk while ur team is doing all the work

[crimson goblet]

gg ez

how many battles did you take @median wagon

[median wagon]

167, 98 victories @crimson goblet

The very next match 🎪

[crimson goblet]

167, 98 victories @crimson goblet
@median wagon pretty damn good,what is that,like 60%wr?

[median wagon]

I also played LekPz for about 30 matches

[heavy sierra]

"skill"! damn, i love ratings ❤️ (these are not my stats... this is ratings in a nutshell)

[lean zenith]

and you aren't going to show us the tanks used?

[lime sparrow]

those are def his stats

[median wagon]

Lol

[worldly anvil]

lmao

[cosmic cypress]

10/10

[native marten]

all jokes aside, that’s actually really impressive and going down there takes more (less?) skill and more dedication known to mankind and the guy who hit 647 rating honestly deserves a prize

[median wagon]

Oh no troll

[arctic lance]

yes .. i have skil just noob teams

[worldly anvil]

🤔

[median wagon]

What is your average damage in ratings

[restive dawn]

The most obvious troll

[native marten]

what’s the lowest rating that’s ever been seen

[autumn wave]

1

[queen lichen]

0, the record is held- thats what I’m gonna do next season get 0 rating

[main frost]

Just carry harder

[queen lichen]

No it’s 0 rating time

[keen moon]

Azuria XV#4196 has been warned.

[eternal gazelle]

great mm

[cosmic cypress]

Cool story bro

[lean zenith]

Maybe stop playing waffle then

[crimson goblet]

looking at xp gained you also didnt play well

[jolly folio]

Probably cos it’s all + MM with in ur team an e5 and the enemy having maus and Is4 or smtn

[lime sparrow]

e5’s are good tho

[median wagon]

Typical

[lean zenith]

The only thing going for e5 is the consumables

[worldly anvil]

no?

e5 is probably the best hull down tank at t10 with actual gun dep

[glossy raptor]

E5 is good even without the consumables

[median wagon]

Back to platinum again, having such a poor day

[crimson goblet]

why even play after u reached 5k
whats the point

[median wagon]

I want to earn more parts

Also this is just sad, a purely average player getting 5.7k just because he spams broken tanks, ratings doesn’t reward the skilful and it’s just uncompetitive

[agile sphinx]

@crimson goblet It isn't that far at all from 5k (about 250th) to top 200 which is a 3x jump in fearless parts 🤷‍♀️

[crimson goblet]

who even cares about fearless, its not as rare as it used to be anyway

[odd bronze]

@median wagon dont forget that u spammed 252 u

[median wagon]

You think 252u is broken?

[lime sparrow]

I think it's overcooked.

[median wagon]

Also I didn’t only spam 252u, I also used LekPz, the heavy buffs changed my variety of tanks, first season I’d use the type 59 90% of the time

I could’ve spammed Action X but I’m not desperate enough to do that

[next gull]

If 252u is not OP at tier 8, pls give us your definition and an exemple of an OP tank.

[median wagon]

Action X

[odd bronze]

you do know that 252 u has way overcooked armor? just gotta accept th fact that you used it a lot and i cant see le kpz if u used it

[median wagon]

Are you Mr Detective on my ratings stats or something

[agile sphinx]

252s armour isn't overcooked lol that lower plate is gigantic

[median wagon]

And that gun is trash, the only thing 252u is good at exceptionally is facehug against short tanks

[native marten]

the armor isn't so much OP as it is just troll

[muted shuttle]

You guys still haven't earned the IS6F?

[restive dawn]

ofc not

[muted shuttle]

@median wagon How many are you missing after so many seasons?

[median wagon]

I have 55 parts as of now

[muted shuttle]

How come

[median wagon]

What do I need to rush it for?

[muted shuttle]

But how is it possible that you only have 55? Are you ending last every season or? No offense )

[median wagon]

I’m not a tryhard, I got 40 parts in the first season and 15 parts last season

[neat slate]

How many parts do you get just for reaching diamond again?

[muted shuttle]

10 as far as I know

[median wagon]

No, it’s 5 because it’s a 1 month season

[muted shuttle]

Aha, but still. Diamond is like what, 50 battles to achieve?

[median wagon]

Not everyone is a sweat, and is there a need that I rush it?

[restive dawn]

i have 0 parts

[muted shuttle]

I know I don't mean it like that but I honestly thought that every golden league member should be at least halfway through

[median wagon]

I’m in diamond rn

[neat slate]

Cant wait to see a 40 wr with is6 fearless

[muted shuttle]

@neat slate Well eventually it is going to happen

[median wagon]

If cancracker got the tank I’d praise him forever

[neat slate]

I will die inside when that day comes.

[muted shuttle]

I'm wondering for how long will they keep these seasons going. I appreciate the tank but it's been enough

[median wagon]

If it stops him complaining then I guess it’s fine for everyone

[muted shuttle]

Not going to happen )

[median wagon]

Well, he is a 60% player

[neat slate]

I feel like wargaming will just have the is6f as the reward until the end of time.

[muted shuttle]

@median wagon But never plays like one. I simply cannot understand how can someone struggle in the golden league. You get ridiculous amount of points for winning

[restive dawn]

its just a very bad tank in a bery bad tier

[muted shuttle]

@restive dawn I mean, it used to be rare and it should have stayed like that

[median wagon]

The original fearless owners died when they saw it was being offered in ratings

[neat slate]

What do you think the next ratings reward tank should be

[median wagon]

They should probably put a different tank next time

[muted shuttle]

@neat slate Something like Snowtiger 8,8. It can't be a super OP tank otherwise a specific part of the player base will gain an advantage

[median wagon]

Jagdtiger 8.8, lol you think people would play for that?

[neat slate]

Yeah. It has to be something balanced definitely, imagine it being the wz 120 1 ft or something lmao

[muted shuttle]

@median wagon Aren't they playing for IS6?

[median wagon]

It should be a special version of the WZ 120 1G FT

[muted shuttle]

Can't be and won't be. Can't even be tank such as Super Conq etc.

[median wagon]

Ah I know, it should be a premium T92E1

[muted shuttle]

☠️

[median wagon]

Im really sick of seeing that tank, it’s always there

[muted shuttle]

And you are only at 5k, imagine what it looked like during the first season at the top of the chart )

[median wagon]

Um, I was 5.7k first season

[muted shuttle]

Tier 8 mostly right?

[median wagon]

Tier 8, some tier 9 and some tier X

[muted shuttle]

Before they reduced the number of ATGMS, it used to be 4-5 every game

[median wagon]

People won’t give up if it has amazing gun handling and rockets

[muted shuttle]

Let's not get into this again )

[median wagon]

It isn’t wrong

[muted shuttle]

I'm not getting dragged into this mate

[median wagon]

I’m not doing anything?

[lime sparrow]

Missile tank arguements are redundant and complaining about them despite them recieving numerous nerfs, regardless of how effective they were, will lead to fruitless results

[queen lichen]

^^^^^^

[worldly anvil]

doesnt that apply to nearly every tank

[lime sparrow]

perhaps

[sonic sedge]

Missile tanks shouldn’t be here unless there is a defence system against missiles or every tank is capable of firing missiles to make it a level playing field!
It’s just wrong mixing missile tanks with WW2 & post war era tanks!

[agile sphinx]

#rating-battles ?

[sick leaf]

Last time I checked the chieftain mark 6, or the Patton, or the Leo 1, or the t54 and plenty of other tanks where not ww2 tanks. This game has more than just ww2 tanks so that’s a stupid argument

[worldly anvil]

i think hes tryna say there is no counter

[muted shuttle]

Keep it ratings related guys please

[pine falcon]

I used 1mil credits to create a clan with banana bread in its name so people don't call me a clanless noob.

[median wagon]

Wew

[queen lichen]

Biggest flex

[jagged spade]

Missile tanks shouldn’t be here unless there is a defence system against missiles or every tank is capable of firing missiles to make it a level playing field!
It’s just wrong mixing missile tanks with WW2 & post war era tanks!
You do know that the patton and M60 were deployed in the coldwar/vietnam war periods right?Alot of tier Xs in this game are mbts(mostly some meds)

[tranquil coral]

There has to be a reliable counter or some form of rng with the missiles

[lean zenith]

There is, it's called getting as close as possible without being in LoS, or be so far away that you can dodge the missile. This doesn't really need to happen since most missile players I come across are just dumb. That and once the tank fires, you can just push it since they have crap dpm.

[median wagon]

Also the camera acts stupid when a missile is in flight, sometimes the camera pans up by itself

[queen lichen]

With experience with both the sheridan and T92 I will confirm this, that’s why I only use them when ik I will pen or I use them on drive-by’s when I’m at a range when I’m concerned about missing

[white spruce]

If your tank has any form of armor whatsoever u can angle lol

[restive dawn]

Take the missle with a track

[ornate spoke]

@light cave can we expect a change here? sorry for the tag

[jagged dirge]

I don't want this really. That would just upset me to see my stats and what I want to see blocked out by ratings nonsense

[warm charm]

also blitzstars exists for a reason

[jagged dirge]

@ornate spoke
Also I want you to know, people play cool game modes like gravity or 5 v 5 because it's new and interesting and fun.

Ratings is dull, tilting and not rewarding at all. Just toying with people's stats in their profile does not fix any fundemental issue that ratings carries.

If you want people to play ratings, my suggestion is to throw a very large carrot for more people. Like a super is-6 fearless

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke
Ratings is dull, tilting and not rewarding at all. Just toying with people's stats in their profile does not fix any fundemental issue that ratings carries.

If you want people to play ratings, my suggestion is to throw a very large carrot for more people. Like a super is-6 fearless
@jagged dirge How can u know that it wont attract more players? As I said a simple solution to attracting more people would be increasing credit earnings. For the stat blocking part: It does not have to block anything. Clicking on the stats in the corner should simply open a new window with ur stats.

[undone pulsar]

@jagged dirge make ratings 5v5 on full sized maps

Or at least 60-75% maps

Ban premiums and collector tanks from ratings. Tech tree only

Losing team top xp player can’t go down

Tier 10 and 8 only

Make two separate queues to reduce wait time

[pine falcon]

Increase credits earnings? In diamond, if you play a decent battle in any premium tank you get about 100K+ from which you subtract the repair cost and get about 80K-85K... I don't see why credit earnings should br increased @ornate spoke

[white spruce]

But— but- then I can’t... use my .. op prem tank?? What is this form of hell

[undone pulsar]

Im sure you get your moneys worth everywhere else

[white spruce]

Lol

[jagged dirge]

Doesn't it already do that though? Also because credits are super inflated already (for example I have 70m credits will all my stats and tier xs done) it doesn't motivate me anymore.

But honestly ratings needs to be more punishing and difficult, not less. Doing 3k damage in tier x shouldn't be the golden ticket to 5k+ rating, but at this point ratings is pretty dunzo as a game mode anyways

[undone pulsar]

@jagged dirge I had another idea too

Minimum damage in order to gain points

Tier number x 100

[white spruce]

I don’t get why everyone breaks their heads over the enigma of fixing ratings games, just make +/-500mm lol

[undone pulsar]

Aka 800 minimum in tier 8 to gain points

Perhaps tier x 100 x 3 to stop you from losing points

Aka 2400 in tier 8 means you can’t go down

Reward skill. Not win rate. Not random teams

[ornate spoke]

Increase credits earnings? In diamond, if you play a decent battle in any premium tank you get about 100K+ from which you subtract the repair cost and get about 80K-85K... I don't see why credit earnings should br increased @ornate spoke
@pine falcon in lower leagues u are still earning less credits. it does not have to get increased equally in all leagues

[undone pulsar]

@ornate spoke so go up in leagues?

[jagged dirge]

I think wargaming adding in more lines of code to the existing product only inspires nervousness from me. They've consistently demonstrated their ability to not improve on the core product with their bugs. And also most people who do 0-1000dmg a game don't get decent rating anyways, so youre not exactly fixing or improving on much with that.

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke so go up in leagues?
@undone pulsar did u even read what i wrote? we arent talking about it here

[white spruce]

Or maybe depending on your tank, tier and type, there is a boundary for winning you need to breach (e.g 1000dmg) to gain points, 2000 damage to gain over 10 etc. The same boundaries apply to losing points. You can only lose up to say 20 per round, 1000+ dmg = only 10, 2000+dmg = no points lost or gained, 3k = 5 up

[undone pulsar]

I don’t see any reason to buff the credit making in ratings. That isn’t why you’re supposed to play the mode, it’s purely a bonus

[jagged dirge]

They already buffed it once. Most people play prems anyways (so do I unless when I played my meme tanks)

[undone pulsar]

You play to assert dominance and get camos and a temporary avatar

@jagged dirge exactly

[white spruce]

If you lost you would automatically lose points. 0dmg = -20 points, for every 100 damage you do you go up 1 point (+1 in victory, you lose one less in defeat)

[ornate spoke]

I don’t see any reason to buff the credit making in ratings. That isn’t why you’re supposed to play the mode, it’s purely a bonus
@undone pulsar but its a fact that it is easier to grind credits on normal. why not reverse it?

[undone pulsar]

@white spruce it can’t be solely based off damage though because that’ll turn into farming only

@ornate spoke so you want more or less credit making?

[white spruce]

Yeah true, I guess they could come up with some formula which accounts tier, tank, tank type etc into account, or even set the values for every tank individually

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke so you want more or less credit making?
@undone pulsar more credits in order to attract more players

[undone pulsar]

@ornate spoke it already has that and it does nothing

No one plays ratings for credits

[jagged dirge]

To be honest it's equally easy to grind your credits in any game mode, so it literally doesn't matter. Just pick your poison, personally I probably grinded more than 250m in comp.

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke it already has that and it does nothing
@undone pulsar Despite the bonuses u still earn less because of lower performance

[undone pulsar]

That’s not a reason why people don’t play though

[undone pulsar]

I really don’t think people playing ratings consider credits over their actual rank

[jagged dirge]

I found this screenshot lmao. Xd. Credits are hard to grind in 2020

[ornate spoke]

yes i dont actaully care about the credits that much. I want the players profile to get redesigned

[undone pulsar]

Bruh

So you don’t really care about your own point

They should do player backgrounds and banners given out for each rank

[white spruce]

If you want people to play ratings limit the amount of time you can play from 16h a day to 12 or 6, then if you want to play ratings you are forced to play in that timeframe. Say 10k people play rating battles every day, if there is a 6h period they will be more concentrated and ratings will be more full of players, compared to when 10k people are spread across 16h. So the same amount of players play, but they are more concentrated so the queue is more full

[jagged dirge]

Now there's a an actual suggestion

[undone pulsar]

Cosmetic only reward that people would want because everyone could see them

Much like the new tiger 1 background

[white spruce]

@jagged dirge thanks

[undone pulsar]

But make a plat, diamond, gold etc

@white spruce ratings ends at 12 pm est and 9 pm west coast

You get home from work in California, sit down to eat and you have 3 hours to play ratings and that’s it

[white spruce]

And start at 9am CEST, if they started at 12am CEST you’d get more people

[undone pulsar]

Why not just have it open 24/7?

Who does it hurt?

Like

[ornate spoke]

If you want people to play ratings limit the amount of time you can play from 16h a day to 12 or 6, then if you want to play ratings you are forced to play in that timeframe. Say 10k people play rating battles every day, if there is a 6h period they will be more concentrated and ratings will be more full of players, compared to when 10k people are spread across 16h. So the same amount of players play, but they are more concentrated so the queue is more full
@white spruce but in the end rating could get less and less popular because people are living in different time zones and have limited amount of free time. Some people couldnt play it at all

[white spruce]

Well nobody but everyone seems to complain about few people playing ratings so that’s my solution take it or leave it

[warm charm]

still waiting for minimum battle cap so those 200 battle players cant just pick up their k91 and start ruining ratings

[undone pulsar]

@warm charm imagine if it was tech tree only 😉

As I’ve already suggested

[jagged dirge]

My favorite are the one battle reroll with 100% winrates with 2billion battles in ratings. Actually the most gross accounts on the server.

[warm charm]

then u got these 700 battle players with their first t7 ruining ratings

[white spruce]

The ratings times would be different across servers ofc if that’s what you’re thinking. I’d guess there’s only a 3h time difference across continents/servers

[undone pulsar]

@warm charm better than 200 and tier 9 though

[white spruce]

Who can blame a new player for exploring the game lol

[jagged dirge]

Lol some of these new players really know how winrate mechanics work.

[warm charm]

the problem with banning prem and collectors is that it would wipe out most of the ratings playerbase cuz most ppl just use it to cred grind

[white spruce]

That’s just not true tho lol

[undone pulsar]

Most people play ratings for camos and avatars and ego lol

Credits are a pure bonus

[warm charm]

if u play a t8 rating match 10/14 tanks are prem/collector

[jagged dirge]

If you play a tier 8 rating match, the tier 7 rating tank is a smasher, and all the heavies are 252us or act xs

[undone pulsar]

This is why they all play premiums

They are better tanks

Not due to credits

[white spruce]

Someone’s gonna go milk the game is p2w cow now

[undone pulsar]

Higher damage. Higher win rate

[jagged dirge]

Im sure it's both at this point

[undone pulsar]

It’s both

The first tech tree tank on win rate is after 27 premiums

And it’s the Vk 100

So it basically doesn’t count lol

[warm charm]

cuz not all the speds can afford prems

[undone pulsar]

But look at the stats

If you have an is3 and a 252u which one are you playing to win or do damage @warm charm ?

DO NOT CONSIDER CREDITS

[jagged dirge]

Dude prems are actually not that expensive. 252u sold for 10k gold, rev for 5k, Chrysler for like 5.5, people probably picked one up.

[white spruce]

@undone pulsar about my limited ratings time idea. It would be different for different time zones, if you’re playing Eu server in California so fool you. It would be available for 10h or whatever on Eu and the same amount of time but at a different time of day for other servers. Sure having 24/7 ratings doesn’t hurt but seeing as everyone complains that nobody plays ratings this is how you concentrate the playerbase

[ornate spoke]

Dude prems are actually not that expensive. 252u sold for 10k gold, rev for 5k, Chrysler for like 5.5, people probably picked one up.
@jagged dirge only the price of a game on steam lol

[warm charm]

i mean yes some prems are definitely better than tech tree, but you cant leave out the fact that not everyone is going to pay for the game, and that the more experienced players will be much more likely to pay than for someone who just started, so those stats are slightly skewed to more experiend players

[queen lichen]

What even is the point in having specific times to play ratings anyway? It makes no sense

[white spruce]

Read my idea and you will see. It concentrates the ratings playerbase so there are more people playing at one time

[undone pulsar]

@queen lichen bingo

[warm charm]

also prevents battle spamming to an extent

[white spruce]

How does it hurt to have specific times anyways

[queen lichen]

I guess? But when does grinding become battle spamming?

[warm charm]

when u do 1.5k battles in a single season and get to 6k but ur 40%er?

[white spruce]

Doubt

[warm charm]

have seen that once, and many low 50%ers get to high 5k cuz they play more than 1k battles per season

[undone pulsar]

@warm charm battle spam and luck = diamond regardless of skill which is a joke

[median wagon]

I saw a low 50wr with 5.7k because he spams broken tanks

[warm charm]

exactly, which is y the time limit helps, even tho its still for like 8 hrs

[white spruce]

@ornate spoke active ratings and 24/7 times are mutually exclusive

[ornate spoke]

when u do 1.5k battles in a single season and get to 6k but ur 40%er?
@warm charm thats why u make rating based on wins not performance and extend the season. it is the only foolproof stat.

[queen lichen]

Controversial idea: you only get a certain amount of battles you can play, like calibration, like you get 500 or something battles and after that you can’t play anymore or it doesn’t count towards anything

[white spruce]

If you want 24/7 timing fine but then you can’t complain if ratings are inactive

[warm charm]

@ornate spoke so ur saying that if the sped on my team does 0 dmg and i did 5k we should both get the same rating gain?

[white spruce]

@queen lichen that’s actually a half decent idea but we all know everybody will hate it

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke so ur saying that if the sped on my team does 0 dmg and i did 5k we should both get the same rating gain?
@warm charm yes. but it will be sorted out over the time because u will have a good winrate and get to diamond and the dude with 0 low winrate and drop

[warm charm]

@ornate spoke it already takes forever for the current system, having ur system would take even longer

[white spruce]

Another idea: a “cluster” of rating battles start every 15 minutes. So every 15 minutes there’s a 5 minute timezone where you can enter ratings, after that it is closed until the next 15 minutes is up. 24/7 playing but concentrated playerbase blended into one

[median wagon]

That’d be horrible

[ornate spoke]

@ornate spoke it already takes forever for the current system, having ur system would take even longer
@warm charm thats why u make long seasons which last for up to a year. not the one month seasons

[white spruce]

Ik it would be horrible but sometimes solutions aren’t pretty

[median wagon]

Usually high players are matched with really low players to balance out the team average, happened to me quite a lot yesterday

[warm charm]

a year long season would just encourage battle spamming and would be a test of can u play ratings for a year, not are u skilled enough to reach a certain rating

[white spruce]

To this I say add +/-500 matchmaking @median wagon

[warm charm]

@white spruce its a gud idea except that once u reach like 4.5k+ theres not enough ppl for that

[ornate spoke]

a year long season would just encourage battle spamming and would be a test of can u play ratings for a year, not are u skilled enough to reach a certain rating
@warm charm not it wouldnt since it would be based on winrate. if u arent good u will be stuck beacuse low winrate. ez

[white spruce]

24/7/365 rating seasons would be demonic. If you started ratings in July you have no chance

[median wagon]

Lol because I was in 5k there was about 2 silver league in my team and the enemy had quite a few platinums but 1 silver, we got smoked

[warm charm]

@ornate spoke wr isnt everything, ive gotten shafted many times in ratings where i do at least 3k every game but i lose 70% of games

[ornate spoke]

24/7/365 rating seasons would be demonic. If you started ratings in July you have no chance
@white spruce not neccesserily. other games have a mechanic that it boosts u over the leagues if u perform very good. So if a player that has 70% in rating will be boosted up until his winrate drops. that way u can achieve ur true rank fast

[median wagon]

70% wr is impossible in ratings

[ornate spoke]

70% wr is impossible in ratings
@median wagon possible until u are low enough

[warm charm]

the whole point of ratings is so everyone is at 50% wr cuz the rating system would be representative of ur skill

[median wagon]

I actually did one 0 damage game yesterday

[undone pulsar]

Sounds like my team

[median wagon]

Great

[warm charm]

ive reached 25% wr in a single day of ratings before, just bot teams after bot teams, games last like 2 min and it takes 5 min to queue

[undone pulsar]

The time restrictions to ratings don’t restrict battle spamming. They restrict accessibility. The way to restrict spam is to cap number of games a day. Hold quality over quantity

[ornate spoke]

ive reached 25% wr in a single day of ratings before, just bot teams after bot teams, games last like 2 min and it takes 5 min to queue
@warm charm thats why i suggested longer seasons. one month based on wr wont work out

[undone pulsar]

25 game limit per day for example

[jagged dirge]

I play ratings because my friends like it when I play certain tanks, like these.also great to learn new control modes

[median wagon]

Get the diamond camo with SP 1C

[jagged dirge]

I already have it

[warm charm]

and i think u gain more if u play tanks no one plays

[ornate spoke]

25 game limit per day for example
@undone pulsar it wont be solved like that. U need to make the ranking system fair and work around the flaws

[warm charm]

i use tourney t10s and i gain like 10-15, take out 4202 for the meme and im gaining like 25 ez

[median wagon]

I die inside when I see someone playing a T28 on my team

[undone pulsar]

Right now you play enough games and you go up though...

That is a flaw

[ornate spoke]

Right now you play enough games and you go up though...
@undone pulsar thats why i suggest rating based on wr

[jagged dirge]

I spammed t28 last season not gonna lie

[undone pulsar]

Wr is paddable lmao

You could have 5k games in tier 2 with 80%

[ornate spoke]

You could have 5k games in tier 2 with 80%
@undone pulsar i mean wr in ratings

[undone pulsar]

Ratings is supposed to be individual skill

Not team skill

Wr is a stupid metric for ratings

Damage and xp are far better

[ornate spoke]

Ratings is supposed to be individual skill
@undone pulsar yes but we see that it doesnt work out like that. in the end ur winrate is based on individual skill isnt it? or do u want to say that ur stats are based on random teamwork?

[jagged dirge]

To be fair, blitz is a team game. It doesn't help every super unicum has such a warped perspective of what a team is outside of comp. Ratings has to be a measure of how well your team does with you in it.

[median wagon]

How can you win if your team doesn’t work together, you push your team to win, not stats

[warm charm]

wr is not entirely based on skill, its still somewhat based on luck

[undone pulsar]

Why is my rating based on 6 other people?

That makes zero sense

Sure there’s team work

But other people being potatoes isn’t my fault

[median wagon]

Teamwork is always better over stats

[ornate spoke]

Why is my rating based on 6 other people?
@undone pulsar how is that? just like in normal games the winrate in ratings in the end depends on how good u are

[jagged dirge]

This is why I play ranked csgo, because it matters how I handle my teammates to climb my ladder. (also faceit player xd if anyone wants to queue with me xd)

[undone pulsar]

Normal games have platoons

Two pramo people and 5 randoms is FAR more predictable

[ornate spoke]

Normal games have platoons
@undone pulsar u can have good wr without platoon

[warm charm]

and everyone in pubs is sped so being somewhat competent means that u can destroy their team

[undone pulsar]

Define good

[median wagon]

60% career

[jagged dirge]

Uh oh

[undone pulsar]

48% is average

So 55?

With a platoon mate, I win in the 70s

[ornate spoke]

Define good
@undone pulsar how does it matter? Fact is that ur winrate is based on YOUR skill, not of ur teammates

[undone pulsar]

For years

[median wagon]

Um you can get a good wr without platoon

[jagged dirge]

Trust me we know

[undone pulsar]

You’re missing the point

[warm charm]

platooning with someone gud raises ur 30 day wr by like 2-3%

[undone pulsar]

More

[median wagon]

10%

[undone pulsar]

If your platoon mate is good and you have chemistry

Definitely more

5% at least

[warm charm]

this is just like sniping someone from pub and asking for toon, no vc, no communication, just that u know someone on ur team is competent

[jagged dirge]

I think by tooning with only super unis, I literally had rank 1 na winrate 30 days a little while ago

[median wagon]

Well that’s because he’s someone you know you can rely on

The players who have 80 wr hardly ever play solo

[jagged dirge]

To be fair why should you play solo? The game is so boring I have anime on the same screen as my game

[median wagon]

Maybe there isn’t always a platoon mate available

[warm charm]

i only play solo so i trade lower wr for higher everything else

[jagged dirge]

I think winrate is the most important stat tbh. But hey. You do you

[median wagon]

I think probably damage ratio

[warm charm]

yes DR is the most important stat, hard to pad unless u club

[jagged dirge]

Winrate is a stat that affects your seedings in tournaments, and is the first thing people judge you on as a player.

[median wagon]

WR is a stat that appeals towards others instead of yourself

[jagged dirge]

I swear I hear the words, 40 preventer, 50,60,70 to characterize players the most compared to 2 damage ratio

[white spruce]

I see two main issues people complain about in ratings.
A) there are not enough players playing ratings,
B) the teams are not always balanced/good players are matched with bad players.

To start with let’s take out point A. There needs to be a way to either entice more people to play ratings, or to concentrate the existing ratings playerbase into one timeframe so people play together. To entice players there is a simple solution: give more rewards. Big, showy cosmetics are popular. Avatars, camouflages, backgrounds, sorted.
Or, to concentrate the existing playerbase, do what I have suggested above and limit the amount of available time to play ratings to, say, 12h a day. Then the usual 10k people (e.g) who play every day are concentrated into these 12h and you get more people who are playing at once, due to the fact they can only play in these 12h. This solution would also limit battle spamming to some extent. You could blend these two solutions together.

Then to sort out issue B. These two issues kind of go hand in hand; there are less people playing ratings, so matchmaking matches less balanced teams, so less people play ratings, it’s a circle. If issue A is sorted issue B will start to sort itself, although matchmaking is not programmed as far as I know to try to match specific players of small league ranges together.

So to give balanced teams and stop 2.5k players meeting 4.5k players, simply add a boundary to matchmaking which stops players of a certain rating difference being added together, 500 or so. There are more players available in matchmaking due to issue A’s solution so this works.

So as a summary. Ratings is limited to 12h a day (this is changed suitable to server region, starting and ending at different times for NA, EU, RU, AS.) Because of this the normal selection of players who play, play in this 12h, and there are on average more players in queue, resulting in quicker matching.

Because of the abundance of players in queue, matchmaking can start to match people of limited rating ranges together, 500+/- or whatever. Now teams start to become more balanced.

To get rid of calibrating players being matched unfairly, perhaps a boundary can be made for calibrating players. Calibrating players can only be matched with people under 4K. Sorted.

Then to get rid of a third issue, “unfair points” as I call it (people feel points are taken away/added unfairly depending on match outcome and player performance.)

The teams have already been balanced a bit more because of the above. This should hopefully limit the amount of 0dmg players/bad performance at high point ranges. Although 5k dmg defeat games will still happen. So, there has to be a solution to add/deduct points fairly. I am not a genius, so I will leave this to Wargaming statisticians, but a formula could be developed to award/deduct points depending on player performance and battle outcome. This may take into account damage, experience, tank, tier, tank type and tank averages, and produce a fair change in points depending on the above. If this fails every tank could simply be given its own set of values for point change and leave it at that.

This is my solution to help ratings. Hopefully you understand and like it. Ask me questions if you need.

[median wagon]

Calibrating players should only be with each other

[white spruce]

There’s not enough players to do that

Opinions please

[median wagon]

This discussion died like my teammates

[white spruce]

I like to think everyone is jumping about with happiness at my solution.

[balmy lily]

Opinions please
@white spruce as i see it the main issue is the system. climbing should be based on wr because currently u can climb just by playing enough battles

[white spruce]

I’ve tried to get rid of battle spamming to some extent in my solution. “The main issue is the system” - thats literally what I’ve just wrote up there. Give me opinions on my solution not the current system

[neat slate]

For the rewards, it’s not very worthwhile unless you make it towards the top.
One way Wargaming could possibly give more rewards is by doing what they do with their event modes - give containers when you win a certain amount of games. The size of the container can scale up to how many games you have won.
Or, you could have a prize reward at the end of the season, which is more rewarding if you have played more games. This could include credits and free xp, or something along those lines.
So at least it’s more substantial for the average player than just receiving a temporary avatar and a camo if they have played enough games.

[white spruce]

Battle spamming can never be completely eliminated unless you give a cap on number of battles played, which I don’t think many people will like

@neat slate this is what I mean when I say give rewards to entice players.

[queen lichen]

It could be useful though, obviously people won’t like it much who solely play ratings or battle spammers.

[restive dawn]

rating once was a place to train how to play is4 against other is4s

[pine falcon]

Isn't fighting IS4s in another IS4 obvious? Just spam heat at it and butcher it

[mossy badger]

1. Open 24/7 like season 1 (I didn’t really ever have a problem with queue so)
2. Battle cap to prevent spam (either season or daily)
3. Bar premiums and collectors
4. Even more exp and credits to offset no premium
5. Platinum should get at least 50 gold (if it’s like season 1 platinum players were still respectable)
6. Just straight up more generous rewards. There’s no reason to be stingy about it (and if u argue then tourneys give nothing then same treatment)

[autumn wave]

o

[lime sparrow]

If there’s actually a credit boost in the higher leagues, please indicate it. Like how xp has an indicated increase and such

[mossy badger]

bruh exp bonus in diamond is like +100-200 exp with premium
that's stingy af

[lime sparrow]

Odd, I actually got the +100-200 bonus in Platinum.

[mossy badger]

oml

[lime sparrow]

lol

[autumn wave]

Lol

[zenith trellis]

Skip rating bring back fun mode instead or else it remains a boring stupid game.

[pallid arch]

A battle cap to prevent spam? You do realize the battle spammers are the ones that contribute the most to the pathetic amount of people playing it.

[tall berry]

^

[lime sparrow]

@zenith trellis ur a bright person aren’t u

[warm charm]

yea stupid ratings mode replaced gravity, bring back gravity

[eternal gazelle]

Always bot in THIS mode

[lime sparrow]

Quiet stevo

[median wagon]

Gravity is overrated

[autumn wave]

wheres stevo

[pine falcon]

I am exactly at 5.5K

[agile sphinx]

So many players over 5k rating on EU this season... I bet WG will try something new next season or it will be much much harder to get fearless parts. Getting from 5k ratings to the top 200 (from 5 to 15 fearless parts) literally takes one battle so I expect either a PR stunt, only top 100 getting more than 5 parts or different prizes.

Get your suggestions in now and loud because WG might actually have to listen to them now

[pine falcon]

I just want 2 more seasons worth of Fearless parts and then wg can do whatever they want

[median wagon]

Hoping for at least 15 parts again

[sonic sedge]

@sick leaf just correcting you on something , ‘the first T54 was completed at the end of 1945’. Also I did write ‘post war’ too. Cheers

[pine falcon]

Is stevo... becoming a normal person... is he trying to change?

[hazy bronze]

@agile sphinx do realize how long it will take if only go 5k to get is 6 fearless

[sick leaf]

@sonic sedge You right Stevo, I missed the word with in your comment. But the missile tanks really aren’t that big of an issue or the reason you struggle.

[opaque edge]

Stepped on 4k rating today, happy :) can do better tho...
Have a great week ahead all

[pine falcon]

@sick leaf https://im7.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-7-98bf8a299738.gif

This was today btw. 2 consecutive missile hits and I don't even need to be able to even see him in third person...

Missiles still ruin tier 10 and are quite a big issue if they are in good hands

[pallid arch]

cHaNgE yOuR #

[pine falcon]

Nuuu

[sick leaf]

Yeah what I meant was they aren’t the reason why he struggles

[calm pulsar]

Is the ho ri good for ratings

[warm charm]

Just use tanks that are op or ur gud at

[lime sparrow]

If you’re good at the HoRi, then yes

[tall berry]

400 ratings difference ggs wp

[median wagon]

Very skilful smasher as you see

[warm charm]

u actually had the advantage cuz they had 2 unknown calibration players and they clearly arent good, ur team just messed up/did bad/mm shafted u

[main frost]

The IS-3s a pretty decent player

[lime sparrow]

That Rhoomba tho

[pallid arch]

400? Lol

[queen lichen]

Yo any idea when ratings end? Ping me with an answer if you can. It’s experimental time

[lime sparrow]

@queen lichen usually the end of the month.

[queen lichen]

Ight, bc I wanna try my hand at getting 0 ratings because why not

[lime sparrow]

A little late

[native marten]

Ratings number isn’t like a direct correlation with skill, Iverson on the other team is like mid-3k

which is a pretty big bruh moment

[queen lichen]

Still worth a shot