#rating-battles | WoT Blitz Official | Page 47

white blade Jul 8, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Its not cancer you can find a lot of good people like martin dogger

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its just harder normal battlers

severe dagger Jul 8, 2020, 7:26 PM

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its not worth losing a 8 matches for 30 points

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i just started 3170 today and ended with 3067

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im serious

white blade Jul 8, 2020, 7:29 PM

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started at 3300 2 days ago now 5300

severe dagger Jul 8, 2020, 7:38 PM

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funny

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its not about having team filled with 45% wr golegs

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they need to balance rating matches like losing 30-20 points

narrow isle Jul 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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WG must make low rating players league !!!

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to not let them to play together with high rating players

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players up to 2999 together

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players up to 3999 together

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and from 4000 ~ together

native marten Jul 8, 2020, 8:40 PM

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bruh imagine those spicy queue times

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it's gonna be like 5 minutes for the average player and like literal eternity for people above 4k

sonic sedge Jul 8, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Well I can certify that ‘I’ won & got the highest score out of both teams so my points should have gone up the most but no! 🙄 Last player left standing on my side. Port Bay.

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agile sphinx Jul 8, 2020, 8:45 PM

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@sonic sedge Firstly, no spotting no assisted damage quite fair to assume that you were farming instead of doing anything useful so you don't deserve anything, secondly how many times do you have to be told to stop complaining???

native marten Jul 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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did stevo just ask for rating points to purely be distributed by damage

sonic sedge Jul 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Tier 9-10 battle 😁 Dynasty’s Pearl

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lime sparrow Jul 8, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Outstanding haha

fallen mortar Jul 8, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Wow I know people avging more than that 🤣

lean zenith Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I can do the same stuff in a t7, and probably also a t6

blissful portal Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yes ratings are just no competitive any more 3 days in a row with just trash bots

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They day this changes it will be just awesome

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3 hours to get in battle and when you get in is for a loss

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I started really good and now i cant keep on going up amazing my luck lmao

median wagon Jul 8, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Ok

odd bronze Jul 9, 2020, 12:57 AM

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You will get ranked points if you do good so why even bother complaining?

blissful portal Jul 9, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Cause you do over 3k dmg and lose points, you do over 3k dmg winning and you get 10 points but when you lose you lose more than 10

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Points system is just disgusting

undone vortex Jul 9, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Lol it works pretty well actually

blissful portal Jul 9, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Nah, it doesnt

undone vortex Jul 9, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I mean I was fine with the point system even at 6.5k rating +

blissful portal Jul 9, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Here at NA is horrible... but i dont think it differs from region

undone vortex Jul 9, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I mean teams are bad in every server it's just how u adapt

blissful portal Jul 9, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yes i agree with that, im talking about the points system when you win or lose

undone vortex Jul 9, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Uh yeah obviously point system is the same in every server

odd bronze Jul 9, 2020, 1:45 AM

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I don’t get one thing about point system , when I play with tier 7 tank and do more dmg than tier 8 teammates I lose more points than them

ornate spoke Jul 9, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Yes i agree with that, im talking about the points system when you win or lose
@blissful portal Only issue with ratings is how many points you loose sometimes even when your team is terrible. Ive lost 18 points on a 5k damage loss at the top of platinum league. Outside of that ratings are fine, if other people can make diamond deapite the noobs then maybe its not the teams skill that holds u back.

blissful portal Jul 9, 2020, 1:49 AM

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@ornate spoke Yes that has no sense sometimes you get more points for how many eliminations you got, sometimes for the damage, sometimes for the position at the end of the battle, etc

hazy bronze Jul 9, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@blissful portal is much easier to climb at later stages of month then begin of month

lime sparrow Jul 9, 2020, 3:29 AM

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I lowkey am contemplating spamming a SU152 in ratings
Rack up the module damage, nuke the light tanks, and p**s off everybody
What ya'll think

worldly anvil Jul 9, 2020, 4:03 AM

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yes

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Did u guys ever wonder why so few players play rating battles although it has been released for quite some time now? In other multiplayer games it is completely normal to play only competitive mode. The reason why this happens is the way the stats are being represented. When u open a players profile all u see is his winrate. The rating is pushed in the corner and is being resetted every month. Everyone cares about their stats. People even create 2nd or a 3rd account just to have beautiful looking profile. The current status of a player is primarly being decided bu his wr, not his rating. All u need to do to attract more players to rating is reorganizing the stats representation on the profile to something like this:

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Show primarily stats of the latest period of time/battles, not the career stats. This way u dont have to worry about being held for a worse player then u are. Making the rating the main representation of a players skill level is WGs responsibility. It will hardly change on its own.

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On top of that u could increase the credit earning. Despite current bonuses it is far easier to grind credits on normal battles. U could even divide the leagues into 4-5 divisions. to make it better more esthetic. No one likes to look at those ugly numbers

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I just hope i didnt write all this for nothing

odd bronze Jul 9, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Agree

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:48 AM

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If u guys agree tag the wg staff so that they would see it

next gull Jul 9, 2020, 7:19 AM

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1/ Here is another issue : there is no WG staff around.
2/ stop trying to be constructive. This place is for complaining about teams and MM
3/ before DMing me, be aware that there might be some irony in my messages.

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Who are the guys labelled as wargaming then : D?

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I still remember when this place was so dead because no one was stupid enough to cry about ratings here

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keen moonBOT Jul 9, 2020, 10:13 AM

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dynoSuccess AvocadoConstant_TheUnknown10#2819 has been warned.

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 10:14 AM

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lmao

ornate spoke Jul 9, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Change it or I'll delete it

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 10:15 AM

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how can i change it

ornate spoke Jul 9, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Edit it

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 10:16 AM

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done

ornate spoke Jul 9, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Thanks

fair trail Jul 9, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Like the teams are so unbalanced its not even funny

keen moonBOT Jul 9, 2020, 12:15 PM

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dynoSuccess A. BeGooo#3410 has been warned.

lucid zinc Jul 9, 2020, 1:39 PM

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can anyone tell me a good tank for rating? @ me when u answer

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@lucid zinc tech tree, FV301, VK 100, tiger 2

lucid zinc Jul 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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dont have them purchased but i have them researched

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Panther 1, JPII if you can use it, standard b if you can use it, WT is easy farming

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T62A and 268 for tier 10 as well, or literally any tier 10 heavy

lucid zinc Jul 9, 2020, 1:44 PM

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for who wants to help i can send all my tanks

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Go ahead

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 2:29 PM

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just take the 252u and bring balance to the ratings

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Or spam your AX

warm charm Jul 9, 2020, 3:31 PM

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T49 low key op in ratings

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Not until you meet AX

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 3:55 PM

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or 252

calm quail Jul 9, 2020, 4:00 PM

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T49 vs russian side armour is a massive joke

sonic sedge Jul 9, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@lucid zinc foch, black prince or tigerP for other tanks in the tech tree. You’ll mostly come up against higher tiers but these tanks can hold their own, I’ve seen some play the helsing too but not every map will suit that tank.

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 4:00 PM

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those 200 he rolls are just 👌

fallen mortar Jul 9, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I wouldn't recommend black prince due to low pen and relatively ineffective armor profile as well as terrible mobility

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 4:19 PM

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It’s broken

fallen mortar Jul 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Only against T6 and some T7 against T8 there is not much it can do espacially against heavys that can angle

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Foch is a turret less td considering teams it has some serious disadvantages due to people not supporting you when needed or they don't spot but it has armor that works pretty well against mediums and low tier tanks

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Piger is a decent choice even tho I'd prefer Tiger I that has better mobility and a really good turret and only sacrifices a bit of armor

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Man what is this dumb heavy spam, it’s sooo damn boring and unfair

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Why the hell did WG give heavies so much health
Oh yes because the easiest class to play 100% deserved a buff

pine falcon Jul 9, 2020, 4:50 PM

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isnt td the easiest class to play? like you sit at the back and only oscillate around a single position

odd bronze Jul 9, 2020, 4:57 PM

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its not, because of being turretless

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 4:59 PM

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you can sit in any tank

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but camping well is harder than driving a heavy to facehug

native marten Jul 9, 2020, 5:13 PM

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dude sitting behind a bush is without a doubt one of the most energy consuming activities you could ever do

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:30 PM

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you actaully need brains to be in the right bush and move to better one

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Camping is one of the most toxic things you can do

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:34 PM

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why tho? people are stupid enough to poke around the corner you're watching and cry about getting a hit, doesnt that make peaking more toxic?

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Peeking is agressive and promotes active gameplay, camping is the opposite. Sniping is fine if you are getting damage in but as soon as you are "covering" someone who isn't exposing and you aren't trying to reposition you are useless and your team might as well be in a 6v7. If you do that by choice then that's pretty toxic

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:40 PM

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are the people toxic over it or is the play style toxic?

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Both

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:40 PM

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how can a playstyle be toxic?

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Camping is pretty lazy and only noobs do it really, all you’re doing is sitting in the same spot without moving for more shots

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Playstyles that ruin it for your teammates are toxic, and imo any toxicity back at them is fully deserved 🤷‍♀️

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:43 PM

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In ratings it is full of these campers, especially smashers

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For example, this newbie who got 100% got T-22 out of his first crate, he just stayed back instead of pushing with the T92E1

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I have irreversible scars from seeing this

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:47 PM

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And that’s why I hate the 183

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:48 PM

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if camping is toxic why am i not the one saying f u and it's the batchat

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median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:49 PM

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You’ve basically crippled him in 1 shot, so I’d expect him to be annoyed

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:49 PM

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people being toxic over a hit is not because cAmPiNg iS tOxIc it's because the peopl getting hit are toxic

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if i did that shot from 20 meters away it would not be toxic cause then i wasnt camping anymore?

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

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The tank you’re using is also toxic

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

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also the map is toxic?

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Your tank’s alpha and camping

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:53 PM

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i see we have a same exact problem here as why people suck in the game, RiGgEd mM, mY tEaM OnLy MoRoNs (making you a one), eNeMy aLwAyS bEtTeR. just people finding excuses from everything they can beacuse how could a player itself be toxic
everything else is toxic for sure

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@restive dawn Both are as toxic as each other, your toxic camping triggered his toxicity so it's your playstyle that's the issue. If you weren't camping then it would require skill from you and a worse mistake from him.

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:54 PM

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People suck in this game because WG’s tutorial is bad

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And the fact the shop is directly accessible by a complete newbie

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:55 PM

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so beacuse i am playing a tank i like the way i like i am criminal and should be sent to jail because someone i hit just got offended

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i am playing only 183 in ratings this season come and meet me

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Ain’t playing tier X gladly

neat slate Jul 9, 2020, 5:56 PM

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you should make a montage of every time someone rages at you in your 183

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:56 PM

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that could be it

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Because you are ruining the game for both your team and the reds you deserve all the toxicity you can get 🤷‍♀️ It should be your own responsibility to realise that actually you are one of the issues with tier 10 and to stop but hey some people just can't be helped

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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i am playing 183 just to ruin peoples days

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 5:57 PM

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That’s toxic

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And it’s 100% justifiable that someone rages when over 75% of their HP gets taken in one shot

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:00 PM

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why would it be justifiable if you were the stupid one to come to the open and let it hit you

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that is again you getting toxic due your lack of situanational awareness

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Ok?

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Because you are the one creating the issue fully just because you are selfish. You cannot be aware of an unspotted tank in the first place and being aware of every single tank is not possible even if they are spotted.

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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i understand i would feel sad and annoyed for getting a hit too but what is wrong in their minds to open a chat and write out loud their toxicity? FOCUS the next time to not to take a hit then, play better

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 6:05 PM

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It’s not a good amount of HP to work with

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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and you cannot like say it in your head or in your room you have to let everyone else in the game know that oopsie i took a big hit and now i need to focus to stay alive?

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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U guys need to understand that there is a difference between 40% standing in the same spot the whole game regardless the situation and a pro taking noobs out from behind

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Again you can't do anything against an unspotted tank unless you base your entire playstyle around avoiding all possible camping spots which is just disgusting to do. If he's letting you know that what you are doing is just pitiful and sad then good on him

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:09 PM

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"toxic camping" lmao

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:09 PM

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to remove the toxicity the best way is to remove the chat

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:10 PM

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just keep it muted. The amount of people getting offended by "toxic camping" is too damn high

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Or just to not camp in a 183 in the first placd

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:11 PM

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yeah play it like a heavy and have 45%

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:11 PM

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dunno about you but i play avoiding as much camping spots as possible suprisingly you dont take a lot shots from unspotted tds - who would have known

pine falcon Jul 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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the only map on which you can not avoid TDs is Castila, Other than that I don't have any issues with tds

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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@balmy lily If you can't play the tank then that isn't anyone elses problem.

@restive dawn Then you play horrifically boring games

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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isnt it boring to take a -1300 in a first peak

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Camping is toxic because it rewards people for doing nothing, and plus how don’t you get bored of it? It’s such a slow playstyle

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Are u from USA by any chance? getting offended by everything

neat slate Jul 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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and campers are only rewarded because the average player just drives foward into the open then parks there

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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nah we got enough offenders in eu too

median wagon Jul 9, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@balmy lily who did you ask that to

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:20 PM

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It's worth taking 1300 max for all the times the camper will miss, splash etc or just not be there and you actually get to have a fun game where you can be agressive

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@balmy lily If you can't play the tank then that isn't anyone elses problem.

Pls enlighten me with ur wisdom

pine falcon Jul 9, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@restive dawn I am puzzled on how well you do in your deathstar

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like I know the deathstar is still somewhat usable but every single one I see just gets spotted and everyone just focuses it

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:23 PM

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i honestly like the idea of the rage compilation feat. DS in ratings

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is it allowed to show any names tho?

balmy lily Jul 9, 2020, 6:28 PM

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footage from every multiplayer game is being uploaded to youtube and streamed so there shouldnt be a problem

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:31 PM

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so im toxic because t62 crossed from the open and got deleted

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agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 6:34 PM

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open?

neat slate Jul 9, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Honestly, no matter what tank you play, if you damage and or kill someone, chances are they will start throwing a tantrum. On the EU server anyway

rose path Jul 9, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Сhrist almighty how are people nearing 5.5K already????
This is the first time I have ever seen this happen first week into a season

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The one season I decide to take it easy and slow down Im already miles behind smh

pine falcon Jul 9, 2020, 6:46 PM

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5.5k was reached on the first day of rating like 5 seasons ago

rose path Jul 9, 2020, 6:47 PM

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As in like the diamond leaderboard is already full along with platinum!!!

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Last season no one was even in diamond the first few days, its only the 1st week into july wtf

restive dawn Jul 9, 2020, 6:47 PM

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seems pretty open to me

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fallen mortar Jul 9, 2020, 7:04 PM

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183 is just a tank and if you're careful you won't get shot by it

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Also u cant play too different with it since WG killed its Camo so it has to rely on camping

queen lichen Jul 9, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Or, just play it more aggressively? The tank also got accuracy nerfs on top of everything else so just play up close. You’re gonna get spotted either way might as well play where you can land your shots

lime sparrow Jul 9, 2020, 8:34 PM

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You play aggresive, u get melted.

queen lichen Jul 9, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I’m not saying play like a damn maus or something. Play second line

fallen mortar Jul 9, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Your mobility and armor doesn't support too aggressive gameplay imo it only works on maps with good hiding position

ornate spoke Jul 9, 2020, 8:54 PM

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What is a good calibration and do you actually make a good amount of extra credits in platinum and diamond. Trying to figure out if it is worth the grind

fallen mortar Jul 9, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Good Cali is 4k + and in diamond its a noticeable amount

agile sphinx Jul 9, 2020, 9:01 PM

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66% extre credits and xp over 5k I think

hazy bronze Jul 9, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@ornate spoke As long make platinum league and up then start to notice the credits really it just how much battle you want to play

warm charm Jul 9, 2020, 10:12 PM

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It’s not worth the grind if u just want creds and xp, it’s only worth if u want the stuff they give u

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However if u just want to use ratings to grind to the next tank and make creds at the same time it’s a gud idea

calm quail Jul 9, 2020, 10:44 PM

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TDs can camp, sure, but you need good decision making to choose the right position at the right moment
Tanks like the is4 and 252u are like "drive to center of action hurr durr"

rose path Jul 9, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Those two have blackholes as sidearmour, turret and hull

lime sparrow Jul 10, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Russian shenanigans

snow surge Jul 10, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Rating battles are supposed to be hard...not hard when you can buy skill from the shop ( a tier 8 HT like Action X or 252U) for 50 USD. Ridiculous.

hazy bronze Jul 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I would love to see if someone could play the t28 get 5k plus only play t28 nothing else

sick leaf Jul 10, 2020, 5:56 AM

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It’s not even 50 dollars. The 252u was only 8.5k gold!

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 10:39 AM

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@snow surge You can't buy skill. The things you need to do well at the game aren't sold in the store.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:01 AM

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cooldown boosters, playing already on T8 without premium account and using consumables several times per battle, provisions and premium ammo will make u broke in no time. Enhanced engine boost costs 8400 credits for T10 vehicles. That is insanely high. So if u dont have premium account and dont want to make minus credits while playing on a high tier u have to put urself at a disadvantage. The said things will maybe add only a few percent and it mostly depends on the skill, but it is nevertheless an indirect pay to win. Besides of this premium tanks are infamous for being strong (löwe, obj 252, smasher)

undone vortex Jul 10, 2020, 11:08 AM

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The good thing is T10 is not yet p2w

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Furthermore, really frustrating is the fact, that u are able to use premium tanks at tournaments. The ability to choose from more tanks than the opponent puts u at an advantage, because u can apply more tactics and team combinations

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@Maddaxkkm[E7] how is T10 different then from other tiers? Everything i said applies to it as well

undone vortex Jul 10, 2020, 11:12 AM

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I get that T10 has prems means that u get access to tanks which others don't but it's not p2w because the tech tree tanks in that tier are equally good or better

desert kite Jul 10, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@balmy lily How is the Löwe overpowered seriously?

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:22 AM

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strong /= overpowered. It just means that it performs well compared to other tanks in its tier. U wouldnt prefer an IS-6 over lowe in tournament would you?

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and we dont need to argue about that based on personal experience since we can simply look at stats

desert kite Jul 10, 2020, 11:31 AM

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The Löwe is of course a good tank I like to play, but it’s not amongst the premiums I would complain about being spammed at tier 8 and being overpowered.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:41 AM

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I wont argue with that, I just wanted to make a comment on the statement of @ornate spoke

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I guess I've just moved past the point of seeing over powered tanks. I see over powered players. Every tank in this game has exploitable weaknesses. It's on the players to find and exploit those weaknesses.

When I get beat down by a player the vast majority of the time it isn't because of the tank they are driving.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:45 AM

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You are right, but it does not mean that tanks shouldn't be balanced as well as possible. Climbing up to diamond with T28 would be a lot greater challenge then with obj 252

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Not a great comparison.

undone vortex Jul 10, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Pls don't use T28 as an example when it's one of the worst tier 8s among tech trees alone

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 11:49 AM

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The game is geared towards Heavies being the alpha tank.

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A better comparison would be the 252 vs the Tiger 2. In that example with all other things being equal the end result would be very close to / if not the same.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 11:57 AM

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A better comparison would be the 252 vs the Tiger 2. In that example with all other things being equal the end result would be very close to / if not the same.
@ornate spoke because tiger 2 is almost as strong as obj, meanwhile T28 a pile of trash. And if u cant climb with TD's as well as with heavies it means that the rating system is badly balanced

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 11:59 AM

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TD's are meant to be a support tank. Which by default you are going to be more reliant upon your team. The T28 is one of the worst of the group so you'll be double reliant upon your team.

Like it or not this is a team game. Certain tanks can share more of the carry burden than others but at the end of the day it's a team effort to get the win.

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Wargaming has made it known that Heavies are meant to be the meta. If you are going to play other supporting classes of tanks you either need to be very good in them or accept the fact that your fate is tied to the abilities of other players on your team doing their job.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:07 PM

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@ornate spoke I think players should still be able to climb with any tank despite the current meta. After all, the rating point system is supposed to reward for personal performance. By giving slightly more points for damage could solve this problem. Btw, could u make a statement on what I said yesterday on stats representation?

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Players can still climb if they excel at their craft. A excellent TD or Medium player will know where they need to be to get the job done despite what their team is doing. It's just the game in it's current state makes it easier to play in heavies. This is why your heavy vs TD comparison falls flat.

Personally I preferred the Medium meta in the pre 3.# days but that's just my opinion.

I don't recall what you wrote yesterday.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@ornate spoke

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:23 PM

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I'd be fine with 30 day performance being shown. I think it is a better indicator of actual game performance then career stats.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I came here because I want a change on this matter. In other skill based games the competitive rating represents the skill level, not mixed stats of how good u used to be and are now. Something like winrate doenst even exist in most games, only the rank.

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Except that my 30 day wn8 is worse than my career 😢

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Until this get changed rating battles will never be more popular then normal battles. The way it is now holds me back from playing. If I play only rating now after thousands of battles my stats would look as bad as they are now, meanwhile the rank is not being taken serious

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:30 PM

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I would like to to see 30 day avg tier and wr. I don't want a hazy unclear ranking system. 30 day avg tier and WR tells me everything I need to know.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:35 PM

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It is hazy and unclear because no one plays it and people arent used to it. Through the lack of players the teams arent even made of same skilled players, but rather being mixed. Introducing divisions instead of pale numbers and maybe adding more leagues would help on the visual part. If enough players would play it, after a while u would only be placed with players that are about equally good. But of course im not against 30 day stats or stats in general, I just want the rating to be the main thing

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 12:37 PM

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I don't get the part where people complain that they never have skilled teams have you ever played at rankings of 5,5k and above? If you play at a normal time you'll get matched with very good players

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Yes mainly, but u get a lot of times players thrown in that can have over 1000 points difference

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and sometimes there are 1-3 good players on every team and it becomes a race who can kill bots faster

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:40 PM

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I won't play ratings. The time availability isn't friendly for when I'm free and the rewards aren't worth the extra time spent in queue.

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I won't play ratings. The time availability isn't friendly for when I'm free and the rewards aren't worth the extra time spent in queue.
@ornate spoke thats why im here

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:46 PM

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It most likely still won't interest me. I'm a pub player through and through.

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I guarantee you that if you meet skilled players you'll complain about that you get clapped

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I guarantee you that if you meet skilled players you'll complain about that you get clapped
@fallen mortar U are supposed to meet players of equal skill level. If I meet someone way above my skill level it means them mathchmaker is not good

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 12:50 PM

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You shouldn't be able to climb infinitely in ranked there should be a line where you keep meeting people with insane skill that clap you out of existence

ornate spoke Jul 10, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Lol. Why would you only want to play against same skill players? That sounds stagnant as hell and offers no push for improvement. Playing against better players drives me to want to do better.

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 12:51 PM

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You shouldn't be able to climb infinitely in ranked there should be a line where you keep meeting people with insane skill that clap you out of existence

balmy lily Jul 10, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Because that is climbing up/descending works (atleast in most games). If u outperform the current players u are matched with it means u are better then them and get a better rank. Then u are being challenged with better players. It is mostly how it already works isnt it? If u are in diamond u will be mostly only be placed with diamonds, while both teams having similar average raing = same skill level.

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You shouldn't be able to climb infinitely in ranked there should be a line where you keep meeting people with insane skill that clap you out of existence
@fallen mortar And u only will climb further if u can outplay the best players. At least that's how a good rating system works.

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I must admit I haven't been hit by a single rocket in a for me very long time

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I got hit once in my obj 268 in idk 40 battles and before that even more battles I wasn't shot by missiles as well I don't know how you get shot or hit all the time but I don't

median wagon Jul 10, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Probably because his team supported him well, allowing him to spam rockets, also what was annoying is that I couldn’t pen his side with HE

neat slate Jul 10, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I get hit by the occasional missile, but it’s definitely having a much less significant impact now.
Still an annoying mechanic though

bleak crest Jul 10, 2020, 4:48 PM

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It’s weekend and the game is unplayable

pine falcon Jul 10, 2020, 4:59 PM

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its a friday....

next gull Jul 10, 2020, 7:07 PM

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A bit late, but there are tanks that perform better, i.e. any player will have better stats than he should expect at that tier and in that tank type.
I would call these tanks OP.

bleak crest Jul 10, 2020, 8:36 PM

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8 losses in a row in ratings, still unplayable game. No wonder with 4 clanless players on my team

pine falcon Jul 10, 2020, 8:37 PM

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oh booo hooo. Cry me a river

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 8:45 PM

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💧 💦 🌊

neat slate Jul 10, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I hate that mindset of clanless = noob. I was clanless for around a year, and that was the top insult I got lmao

bleak crest Jul 10, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Clanless = noob > 90% of the time, happy now @neat slate ?

restive dawn Jul 10, 2020, 9:30 PM

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If you were clanless would you fullfill that definition

fallen mortar Jul 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yes can would 😂

rose path Jul 10, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Can ranked count to stats pls, pretty sure my 90 days now has barely changed since I play ratings so much

pine falcon Jul 10, 2020, 10:18 PM

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if rating counts to stats the rerolls, which probably make 15-25% of the rating player base are going to leave further killing the game mode. The only way rating can be improved, is for the current version to be left behind and a new approach to be taken.

lime sparrow Jul 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

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And that’s only gonna work if enough people play ratings

median wagon Jul 10, 2020, 10:41 PM

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If ratings counted towards stats, rip some 60wr tank stats

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 1:20 AM

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If ratings had a soft reset over a hard reset it would be much more balanced, rn u got pros just making it to plat and some 40%ers still hanging around high gold

muted shuttle Jul 11, 2020, 1:41 AM

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It seems like everyone here just wants to be the first, not taking into account their capabilities

sick leaf Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Pros just making it into plat lmao. Making plat is super easy. I ain’t uni and I made plat on the second day last season

balmy lily Jul 11, 2020, 5:36 AM

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There is a difference between "just made into plat" and "almost diamond"

lime sparrow Jul 11, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I seriously played ratings for only one season. Almost took the entire 60 days + 1.2k battles just to go from 3.1k to 5k

white spruce Jul 11, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Simple solution here, just have +/-500 rating matchmaking

sick leaf Jul 11, 2020, 6:57 AM

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He said pros just making into plat so idk what y’all talking about. I just referenced his post.

quaint bridge Jul 11, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Lose but 20 plus. Ez

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sturdy maple Jul 11, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Hi

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 2:04 PM

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U have a purpl and a void and many other ppl from top clans in gold, and they’re stuck with other much less skilled players. This is what hard resets do, they mingle not skilled and skilled players, and it takes a while for the rating to actually be somewhat accurate

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crimson goblet Jul 11, 2020, 2:29 PM

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they just had bad 10 calibration games, what clan they in doesnt matter

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Exactly, cuz everyone starts at 3k. If everyone started relative to their last season rating then this wouldn’t happen. Even if u had a bad calibration but are a gud player u should still be ahead of a bad player with good calibration

pine falcon Jul 11, 2020, 3:07 PM

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so in your logic a 60%er who does 500 dmg in each of their 10 games has to calibrate higher than a 45%er who did 2.5K in each of their games? You idea is brilliantly stupid

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 3:26 PM

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No, I meant a bad calibration not a terrible one, for example: someone at 3200 last season starts around there, and if he wins 7/10 he’ll prob calibrate around 3600-3700. If someone was at 5.5k last season, he’ll prob start around 4.2k, and if he wins 3/10 he’ll prob calibrate around 3.9-4.0k.

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Also having a high wr doesn’t mean ur a gud player, being a gud player means u are consistently playing at a high level and not doing 500 dmg for 10 games. Also if a 40%er does 2.5k avg he’s not a bad player, myb he just got lucky, or his wr isn’t representative of his skill

snow surge Jul 11, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@ornate spoke to have skill means to do damage and earn xp. To do these things, good armour, speed/agility, and a penetrating gun is necessary. Many players use their skills and knowledge to make their tank's more limited characteristics shine in battle (flanking, aiming, sidescraping, hulldown, initial spotting). But with the introduction of premium "idiot-proof" tanks like the t22 medium, Def. Mk. 1, 252U, and Action X, experience in the game is not necessary to have good battle characteristics. So, comes the phrase "buying skill".

ornate spoke Jul 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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A bad player any of those tanks will still be a bad player.

next gull Jul 11, 2020, 4:53 PM

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But still perform better than in any other tank of the same class at same tier.
In that respect, your are buying an extra skill compared to your actual one.

fallen mortar Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Mk 1 driven by a noob is still garbage because he would show his Hull same with 252 u and t22 and action x

median wagon Jul 11, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Defender Mk1 is OP

lime sparrow Jul 11, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I wouldn't say op

median wagon Jul 11, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Why? It’s a direct upgrade over the centurion

lime sparrow Jul 11, 2020, 5:21 PM

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The Centurion's a pretty garbage tank. OP means that it can be put in any scenario and dominate in that said scenario with overwhelming efficiency.
The MK1 actually is good at its roles. The Centurion isn't.

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Mk1 isn’t op, just very good. Cent is mediocre

next gull Jul 11, 2020, 5:37 PM

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"dominate in that scenario" considering the skills of the player.
Corrected it for you.

worldly anvil Jul 11, 2020, 5:39 PM

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mk1 is OP, because its got 4 shell autoloader with good gun handling, basically impenetrable turret except to the highest pen rounds, decent mobility, good gun dep, and decent dpm. mk1 is the most overpowered tier 8 medium (not like tier 8 mediums were good in the first place)

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 5:43 PM

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It’s slow af, low alpha so u can just not take all 4 shots, hull armor is a joke, it’s huge for a medium, not great camo. Basically the drawbacks it has doesn’t make it op. It is one the best t8 meds tho, but they all suck

queen lichen Jul 11, 2020, 5:46 PM

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It’s just a centurion 1 (which already performs poorly imo) with a 4 shot autoloader and the removal of the side skirts, which makes it even more vulnerable to HE

worldly anvil Jul 11, 2020, 5:48 PM

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low alpha? nearly all clip tanks have subpar alpha... thats what a clip is for. Huge for a med? No problem, give it some side armour. Its not slow for a med with that armour... Camo? Who cares about camo in hull down tanks when you're constantly exposing yourself to the opponent because you're turret is stronger than the action X's?

median wagon Jul 11, 2020, 5:52 PM

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That turret is OP, 100mm more thick than centurion’s and 76mm spaced armour plates because why not, 800 clip for a tank that is extremely good at hulldown, at least the lorraine is large and paper and has high risks when exposed

restive dawn Jul 11, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Why do we have a calibration anyway just start climbing from bronze league

calm quail Jul 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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facts

bleak crest Jul 11, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Because some will not want to climb out of bronze league, @restive dawn
Lots of easy aces there

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Last season we got the ATGMS, this season we get the stupidly british lights with high turrer armor... what is waiting for us next season....

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Kranvagn with 4k dpm

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Im not surprised now lol, 4 battles in the day 4 loses this is just trash im tired of bot teams, disgusting streaks and points system

median wagon Jul 11, 2020, 9:42 PM

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4 isn’t even high

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i know, but its funnt that the first 4 battles were a loss and lost over 40 points

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Then i will do an excellent battle and the horrible point system will give me 7 points like it always does

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More frustrating is the 3 hour wait to get in a battle

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now 5

warm charm Jul 11, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Went 3-15 yesterday

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 9:55 PM

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That sucks@warm charm , we need to reach the top again man, the first ones are spamming all new britsh lights and they dont stop winning

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Update 9 battles 1 win.... joke ratings

restive dawn Jul 11, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Or you?

blissful portal Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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After callibrating in the top 3 and being top 10 till yestarday...nah i dont think so

tall berry Jul 11, 2020, 10:58 PM

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git gud and stop complaining

queen lichen Jul 11, 2020, 11:19 PM

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^^

lime sparrow Jul 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Stevomoment

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@tall berry Make silence bot not talking to you, i will complain all what i want

tall berry Jul 12, 2020, 12:27 AM

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just got called a bot from someone that is irrelevant

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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RI was doing great and another 5 loses in a row this is sick really ratings suck even more than randome battles what a joke

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@tall berry and im gettind a "git gud" from a 2k battles player

tall berry Jul 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

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so u want my main account?

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

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hMMm

tall berry Jul 12, 2020, 12:32 AM

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there you go @blissful portal

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and ratings is supposed to suck more, it requires skill something you dont have

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:40 AM

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lol another newb account, plus nah, ur right i dont have skills thats why i was top 5 till yesterday newb @tall berry but thanks to bots like you my ratings gets destroyed

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 12:44 AM

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@blissful portal then why are you in srn and not -rvg- if ur so skilled

tall berry Jul 12, 2020, 12:46 AM

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top 5 is irrelevant if you just spam battles

median wagon Jul 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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And plus it doesn’t show skill either

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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@worldly anvil cause i dont have the stats required as i dont play to much random battles ,@tall berry the spam of battles is the need to go up through the leaderboards due to the noobs i get, plus i got top 5 with callibration u are saying 10 battles is spam? lol

median wagon Jul 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Keep in mind the season has 2/3 left

tall berry Jul 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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^^^

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Yes i know i just dont want to get away from the first ones thats why

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 12:54 AM

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@blissful portal play more then

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 12:56 AM

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@worldly anvil im trying that, i started playing the game as a kid and didnt know what the WR was i left the game for some time and when i got back i was at 47% since them im trying to improve my wr but now i dont have to much time to play, the time i get i use it for ratings

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 1:00 AM

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@blissful portal then get a better 30 day at least
you can't compete with super unis with those stats

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I know im doing my best when i play randoms

glacial bison Jul 12, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Rating battles should affect stats, change my mind

autumn wave Jul 12, 2020, 2:20 AM

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nu

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Lost 200 points just thanks WG thanks a lot

cyan crag Jul 12, 2020, 3:01 AM

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🍿

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Tomorrow will be... or hope so

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#Joketeams

autumn wave Jul 12, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I will eventually get the fearless by the end of the year

blissful portal Jul 12, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Me 2 this is just a joke

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Went from 5.020 to 4802 im not joking... full of noobs i cant believe this

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But well...

lean zenith Jul 12, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Set a goal for how much rating you are willing to lose. If you go past, you stop for the day. Otherwise, keep playing

buoyant lintel Jul 12, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Nice idea

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 8:22 AM

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love people that complain about rating and it being wgs fault, amazing, its not the like the players in your team + yourself lose those games😂 srsly grow up, or just stop playing ratings, the skill that was needed in the past for rating is long gone,its just a process of how much can you grind and waste time

bleak crest Jul 12, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Camping premium heavies are in abundance in ratings, 30-40% wr, under 1k games, working as intended.

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 9:48 AM

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u also have that in randoms,so what

warm charm Jul 12, 2020, 11:05 AM

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The problem with ratings is that u should be getting around 50% wr, since theoretically all teams should be equal. However, when u have unskilled players and bad luck, ur wr goes under 50%, which under the current rating system means u almost always lose pts, even if ur carrying every single game

ornate spoke Jul 12, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Nobody is saying you should be able to carry every game. But the fact of the matter is if you are doing your part there is no way that you should fall below 50% win rate consistently. If you are consistently below 50% win rate that is not a team or bad luck issue. That is you issue.

sonic sedge Jul 12, 2020, 11:33 AM

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+5 👍😆 Highest out of everyone 🤣

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white spruce Jul 12, 2020, 11:42 AM

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You generally are yeah

pine falcon Jul 12, 2020, 1:37 PM

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This season is so easy compared to the last one

median wagon Jul 12, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Ah yes, “all right” and then he starts complaining about me

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pine falcon Jul 12, 2020, 2:03 PM

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he clearly meant your other right xD

exotic dawn Jul 12, 2020, 2:17 PM

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now tell me the sense of keeping the atgm even in the ratings, there are players who spam it and reach more than 5000 points using ONLY that type of tank. Already ruin the random games not even being able to cover behind a hill, at least in the ratings would not be better to maintain the original style of play without these tanks out of the ordinary? tell me if i'm wrong to think so

median wagon Jul 12, 2020, 2:18 PM

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People say ATGMs are broken because they hardly turn anymore, then why are purely average players getting to the leaderboards spamming these types of braindead tanks? It’s really dumb

pine falcon Jul 12, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@median wagon the fundamental mechanic of hitting someone without having direct line of sight on them is broken

exotic dawn Jul 12, 2020, 3:05 PM

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atgms just ruin the game, nothing else to say

lime sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 4:29 PM

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I personally am seeing less missile spam. Less Sheris

autumn wave Jul 12, 2020, 4:32 PM

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And more Vickers

lime sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 4:35 PM

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The tier 9’s a lil overcooked

queen lichen Jul 12, 2020, 4:39 PM

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T92 had been balanced nicely imo. Aside from the people still complaining about ATGM’s it still has a little bit of a troll upper plate, which can help you a bit. I haven’t played the Cruiser, but from what I’ve seen it is very strong, but not OP

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 4:40 PM

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people will always complain about "op tanks", it will never change

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:40 PM

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cruiser is not op? Bruh it is very OP. If i can avg more than it that most of my t10s smth is wrong (currently i butchered the stats but i can easily imporve them)

queen lichen Jul 12, 2020, 4:42 PM

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It’s still a light with the only armor existing in some degree on the manlet, not the entire front of the turret. Any competent player who knows how to hull down will perform in this tank

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:46 PM

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lel hull down in a light tank

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 4:47 PM

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why should the class matter? you can hull down in anything, the most useful thing about doing it is you lower the amount of armor you can get shot at

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:48 PM

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class stereotypes
light tank = fast, not much armour, okay gun
med = decent of everything
heavy = slow, armoured, good gun
td = amazing gun, armour is balanced with the speed, no turret

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 4:50 PM

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i was talking about why class matters when it comes to do hulldown

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:50 PM

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any tank can do any tactic
some are better than others
exactly

crimson goblet Jul 12, 2020, 4:51 PM

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because it doesnt, you can do it in any tank, the effectiveness just differs from tank to tank

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:52 PM

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also it was sarcastic/a joke
usually light tanks aren't effective hull down
imo the cr might as well be classed as a med

queen lichen Jul 12, 2020, 4:52 PM

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class stereotypes
light tank = fast, not much armour, okay gun
med = decent of everything
heavy = slow, armoured, good gun
td = amazing gun, armour is balanced with the speed, no turret
Emphasis on stereotypes, there are tanks that are classed as one thing and perform better in another role. Take the Tiger 1 for example. It can’t work a frontline like the it’s counterpart, so running it like a medium is smarter

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 4:52 PM

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there are always exceptions, stereotypes aren't exactly what each tank will be
some tanks that got worse because of powercreep, especially powercreeped heavies, like going med route because their armour is more effective there, yet they still have enough speed, like is7, is6, and is8

warm charm Jul 12, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Sheri isn’t as impactful as it used to be, but having an atgm will always make it broken, unless everything is complete garbage. Vcr is op, turret is tiny and u have small areas to pen, and it’s fast so u only have a 5% chance of penning it when it’s hull down, not to mention the broken view range

queen lichen Jul 12, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Sheridan and T92 will always have the ATGM’s, but I still don’t believe that makes them broken. The missiles have poor handling, less pen compared to mediums HEAT rounds, and it has balanced mobility, compared to similar tanks.

worldly anvil Jul 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Poor handling? You mean pinpoint accuracy? Less pen compared to medium HEAT rounds? Compare it to light tank heat rounds instead, which makes it average. Mobility is mobility, although both atgm tanks have relatively troll armour, either in thickness and angles or just straight up spaced armour.
The tanks are very strong, which is why you may see a lot in ratings battles, even after missile nerf.

warm charm Jul 12, 2020, 5:48 PM

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The fact that they have 100% accuracy and is player controlled will always make it broken unless it gets nerfed so hard that it can barely turn or is slow af

median wagon Jul 12, 2020, 6:01 PM

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If the rockets are slow then that’s a buff

lime sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I'm pretty happy with the missile tanks rn tbh

native marten Jul 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Changing the missile speed is a double-edged sword, it gives the person using the missiles more time to adjust the missile’s course but also gives the person trying to block the shot more time to react

But that aside I’m still not a fan of missiles

balmy lily Jul 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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just remove this trash mechanic already

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it doesnt belong to this game

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Out of season april fools joke. The next lights will have an air strike as premium or what?

queen lichen Jul 12, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Good idea!

lime sparrow Jul 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

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WG’s not gonna remove the missile mechanic. Besides, it’s a lot easier to avoid the missiles now since they cant even turn as fast anymore

worldly anvil Jul 13, 2020, 12:20 AM

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you have a lot more time to aim them
basically it got worse for heavies but better for meds
ratings is full of them still

warm charm Jul 13, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Prob becuz I spam it lol

lime sparrow Jul 13, 2020, 2:04 AM

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idk, I can angle against the missiles a bit more comfortably now that i have more reaction time

mint nexus Jul 13, 2020, 2:05 AM

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mint nexus Jul 13, 2020, 2:24 AM

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196 points ?

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@mint nexus it was likely their last calibration battle

bleak crest Jul 13, 2020, 10:34 AM

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To make progress in rating every season one needs to buy a tank on offer. Then everything works fine until the next season. I won a lot in T34 the season I bought it, then it has become useless as any tech tree tank.

agile sphinx Jul 13, 2020, 11:04 AM

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^ this is complete and utter 💩

It's easy to go up without buying anything at all, and unless the tank is awful or op it's all on how well the player can play the tank

restive dawn Jul 13, 2020, 11:09 AM

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that's why 183 is the best

crimson goblet Jul 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

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To make progress in rating every season one needs to buy a tank on offer. Then everything works fine until the next season. I won a lot in T34 the season I bought it, then it has become useless as any tech tree tank.
@bleak crest that it the worst excuse i have heard in the long time, how long did it took for you to come up with that?

restive dawn Jul 13, 2020, 11:38 AM

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gotta love this thingy

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restive dawn Jul 13, 2020, 12:06 PM

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to diamond with 183?

glossy raptor Jul 13, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Do it

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@bleak crest the only way to make progress this season it seems to spam the new light tanks... Which is disgusting

crimson goblet Jul 13, 2020, 2:57 PM

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no, to progress you play well, it doesnt matter what tank you play, but apperantly you two are too bad to realise this, learn to play

tall berry Jul 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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^

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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The rocket and heavy spam is more disgusting

bleak crest Jul 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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It was obvious that rockets will be spammed even more when the mobility and armor of the US lights was nerfed. Wargaming loves it as rockets cost a lot more.

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Worst team I’ve had in ratings, we also had a 400 higher average rating and 3 40wrs, why?

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And IS-6 spammed HE

crimson goblet Jul 13, 2020, 3:43 PM

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the reason its higher is coz 3 are not calibrated yet

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 4:38 PM

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What?

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pine falcon Jul 13, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I know the av. dmg isn't great but Lowe carried me to 5k

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queen lichen Jul 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Hot

lime sparrow Jul 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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For me it was the E100 and e5

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@crimson goblet If you are going to say stupiditys about other people make silence, thanks

agile sphinx Jul 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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No use complaining if you ain't going to listen to the best advice you can get 🤷‍♀️

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@agile sphinx you talking to me?

crimson goblet Jul 13, 2020, 6:56 PM

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true,but maybe i dont know anything according to this guy 🤷🏼‍♂️ not like i got my 70% for a reason

agile sphinx Jul 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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@blissful portal Yes I am

@crimson goblet U nab u just pay for WR bot u brainless smh

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@agile sphinx do you think that after 6 years in the game i need an advice? lol, New lights spamming is disgusting and the only way to progress if you dont believe me why the top players of NA every single battle they use the new light tanks...

agile sphinx Jul 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Yes I do. Everyone needs advice to get better, whether you can handle that or not is down to the individual. The lights are vaguely annoying but not "disgusting" by a long margin. They just happen to be the best tanks to gain points with all the spotting damage they can get as well as their decent guns to get damage in themselves.

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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plus you call a "learn to play" an advice? lmao

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Beef

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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@agile sphinx more turret armor than some meds, good gun depression, amazing view range, amazing dpm, amazing average damage and penetrarion... yeah i think they are perfectly balanced...

tall berry Jul 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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nobody said that they were perfectly balanced, just goes to show how rarted you are

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Damn the T55 A is a sweet tank for rating

agile sphinx Jul 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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It's about as good advice as you can expect with the attitude and comments you put in here lol. The dpm sure ain't amazing and neither is their alpha or pen, but as said nobody said they were balanced

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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For honourless it seems they are balanced... as he said they are not disgusting

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Aren’t rockets the disgusting one?

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I never complained about rockets

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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well kind of but I see so many nabs in the last time which cant handle rockets

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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there's a pretty big gap between "balanced" and "absolutely broken" the new light tanks are somewhere in between

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@cobalt gate true

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:06 PM

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the new lights are decent, cr is overcooked but whatever it's not like game-breaking

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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yeah just because 70% wr players used their free exp and were godlike in those tanks doesn´t mean that they are op

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:08 PM

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and besides getting mad at people for using decent tanks is like getting mad at people for like, actually taking advantage of something everyone has access to

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Its funnt if you think ATGMs were OP and now you are saying new light tanks arent OP

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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damn maybe I missed something but I don't remember ATGMs ever being on the british light tanks

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I also don't remember getting hit for 560 alpha from the sky by any of the tanks from the vickers line

queen lichen Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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You should

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@native marten high roll of the new light tanks can do almost 500 dmg... and with HE i dont even want to know

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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not even close
350 alpha (standard), at a max roll, goes up to 438 (which is less than the alpha on the HE)
the HE alpha is 440
multiply by 1.25 for max roll
550 is its highest roll possible (besides engine fires and ammo racks) @blissful portal

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i said almost..

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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438 isn't very close to 500

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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in higher tiers 60 dmg is nothing so is pretty close

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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bruh if someone has 490 HP and you only have 438 to shoot him what would happen?

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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it's really not
unless you're willing to agree that the 268 has basically 860 alpha (as max roll is 800 and 60 is apparently not that much damage), Sheridan has 760 alpha (as 700 is the max roll and 60 damage is nothing), and most mediums nearly have 500 alpha

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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more alpha is always good especially in those situations in which one shot decides the match

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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you're going on the assumption that every single shot is going to be 438 alpha from a 350 alpha gun, and 60 extra alpha is nothing

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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@cobalt gate just a ram or HE and its gone

native marten Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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there's a pretty big reason why 350 alpha and 400 alpha are pretty significant, and there's also a reason why 420 alpha on the WZ-121, despite only being 70 alpha away from 350 alpha mediums, IS a pretty big difference

cobalt gate Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@blissful portal well you only have 10 hp because he just shot at you and is reloading so you peek out to shoot

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those scenarios are not rare

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@native marten there is the first error, why would with that DPM do more dmg or the same dmg than a medium tank, and you cant compare them to B Chat or Sheri cause one has an autoloader and the other one has a derp with both having more than 10 second reload

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I can basically say Vickers Cruiser its better than the FV202

cloud flume Jul 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I can also say, They both are basically equal, one’s Strength is the other’s weakness, so they cancel out, it’s more based on how skilled the player is or how the tank is played, aggressively or defensively, i think they are support tanks and will need teammates most of the time, except in 1v1’s, my opinion

blissful portal Jul 13, 2020, 7:29 PM

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It maybe... now we should stop talking in this channel about the Light tanks xD as we are in Ratings

cloud flume Jul 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Agreed

fallen mortar Jul 13, 2020, 10:17 PM

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i hate vickers more the missiles barely hit me but the 110mm HE does from vickers and the turret is just insanely annoying

pine falcon Jul 13, 2020, 10:19 PM

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lmao just play tier 8. and you avoid a lot of the vickers and missiles

restive dawn Jul 13, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Why would anyone play tier 8 over a 10

fallen mortar Jul 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@pine falcon i only got 2 T8s atm and one of them i dislike a lot IS-5 and the other is ISU 130 which in ranked is bad idea since whos gonna support me ... right nobody

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@restive dawn in diamond to get some extra juicy credit output if he/she/it isnt into tourneys

pine falcon Jul 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@restive dawn well I have dedicated myself this season to climbing sooo currently doing only tier 8 because the climb is way easier.

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@fallen mortar well the only thing you need to perform well is a heavy with ok-ish armor with a reliable gun

restive dawn Jul 13, 2020, 10:27 PM

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You lose more games that in pubs so do those extra credits actually make up anything

fallen mortar Jul 13, 2020, 10:28 PM

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you get 66% more credits and with a prem tank u usually dont loose credits anyway

pine falcon Jul 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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uum no. Tier 8 rating is so easy to win

median wagon Jul 13, 2020, 10:30 PM

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More noobs in tier 8 though

devout kiln Jul 13, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Tier 8 ratings ez if you have one of the broken prems

heavy sierra Jul 14, 2020, 10:43 AM

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ratings is all about spamming game after game after game, there is no skill needed. i would like to see some requirements to join rating battles, players need minimum 5k battles ( i saw people playing in prem tanks with only 500 battles..) and maybe a wr of 50% minimun to participate (or at least dealing 1k average damage or sth like that) and it should not be possible to do 1000+ games in one ratingseason (1 month).

i personally do round about 200 battles each season, cause i only want this camo on some tanks, i did it 2 times to diamond league, but platin is always easy to get.

wg should change sth, its no skill based mode. to get faster into games, i have sometime players with less than 2000 games in team, they even just know the basics, which is fine. but in ratings i expected some expierenced players..

i love playing ratings in every tier from VII to X, but i wish it could be possible to get a skill based matchmaking at least in ratings..... its random as it is in normals.
Happy tanking!!

neat slate Jul 14, 2020, 11:17 AM

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I do not think requirements of 5000 battles and an above average winrate of 50% is the way to go. NA and Asia already have issues with queue times with no requirements. Having that high requirements would kill it.

Having lower requirements could work, but there would be no need for them if the rating system itself was looked at.
For starters, I think the system should move away from players top priority being to farm as much damage as possible in their games, and actually make it more team based performance

fallen mortar Jul 14, 2020, 11:55 AM

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An idea that possibly could kill or improve ratings is that to enter ratings you need an ace on a T10 or the certain T you want to play but it has to be tech tree

blissful portal Jul 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Or maybe try one Rating Season excluding all premium and collector vehicles, like they are testing for first time in Ranked Battles at WoT PC

next gull Jul 14, 2020, 1:02 PM

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The vast majority of the players has less than 5k battles. WG wants them to buy a high tier tank as fast as possible.
5k battles mini and techtree only can not be the commercial strategy of WG for rating battles.

opaque edge Jul 14, 2020, 1:45 PM

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u think rating is commercial thing in first place? I'd imagine it should be more a place for more seasonate players

warm charm Jul 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

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If they just exclude prems/collectors it would make ratings a lot better, would mean a lot less op tanks and pretty much removes all the 500 battle bots

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 3:12 PM

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If they remove prems/collectors from ratings, a lot less people would be playing for credits, so a lot less people will be playing ratings. A reason to play ratings is for credits, i dont think its a wise idea to take that away.

balmy lily Jul 14, 2020, 3:14 PM

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It feels pointless to play rating if u know that u wont get to diamond. Can u divide the leagues into divisons please?

pine falcon Jul 14, 2020, 3:15 PM

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how about no

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what good will divisions do?

balmy lily Jul 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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its like asking: how are centumeters and millimeters useful if can measure everything in meters. it shows the skill level more accurately. there is quite the skill gap between 4100 and 4999

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 4:05 PM

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no as there's no reward incentive for anything except diamond
if you want to take away prems and have a battle requirement u need more rewards in ratings for end of season like more credits, gold, and free exp
I agree that prems need to be taken out but then queues will be awful, so you need something to pull players in

balmy lily Jul 14, 2020, 4:20 PM

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yeah and u cant see the rank of previous season. The rank is being resseted often and all what is left is an avatar. keep wondering why no one plays it

pine falcon Jul 14, 2020, 4:22 PM

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get to 5K and get parts for the fearless then... 5K isn't hard.

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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getting 20th or less is soul-crushing though

balmy lily Jul 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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show me that please mr pro. there are less then 100 people in diamond right now

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even if it would, it doesnt negate we said before

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*what

pine falcon Jul 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I am a 59% er (good but not great) and I reached diamond yesterday with about 180 battles. I am neither a pro nor a noob but I can still say reaching diamond is fairly easy

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I just don't see why people are constantly complaining about not being able to reach 5K (or even in some cases 4K) when all you have do it is play semi-decent and spam battles

balmy lily Jul 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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who did complain now about that?

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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the ONLY time it was actually hard to get diamond was season 1

pine falcon Jul 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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the regulars: stevo complains that he can't get 4K. Cracker complains that he can't get 5K and a couple of more. (and of course every single person who cannot get to a certain league complains about mm)

robust yoke Jul 14, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@pine falcon Well, you have to admit that sometimes MM is strange. I fought two days ago in a battle where we were 4 heavies and 3 TDs and enemy team was 3 heavies, 2 TDs and 2 meds ?! Their meds crashed us. Still, I like RBs. For me it’s a way to learn more, especially in matches with high RP average where teams are made of good players. I try to make every battle count though failing some times (it’s just inevitable) but not angry at MM anymore.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 4:38 PM

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There’s like no limit on heavies in ratings

pine falcon Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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true. Sometimes MM is weird and unfair. But remember. MM can be unfair to you (for example giving and extra medium and a light on falls creek) but it can be unfair to the enemy (by giving your team an extra light and a med on falls creek). However most of the time we only notice the bad matchmaking towards us. Just like we only notice bad rng. If good things happen to us we accept them as if they are given. if bad things happen, we complain.

neat slate Jul 14, 2020, 4:56 PM

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The worst case I have experienced is when the game gave the enemy team two maus on supremacy dynasty pearl. We got one maus sure, but our other heavy was a mk6. Hardly surprising that they easily took over the two caps in the town

sonic sedge Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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This was a draw but win or lose this is really what the scoring should look like, give or take.

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neat slate Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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That enemy t57 heavy got it good

sonic sedge Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yep

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Oof nearly lost to a smasher camper

robust yoke Jul 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@pine falcon Totally agree with you. That’s why I said I’m not angry at the MM anymore. Bot players are everywhere. Even I, myself act as a bot sometimes 😂

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Why do people camp with smasher, when I rushed all he did was hide behind a corner and in a bush

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crimson goblet Jul 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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coz if they also have to move they cant focus on were the enemies are, have some thought for these poor players,they cant handle driving and looking/shooting at the same time

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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It just frustrates me when people use desperate and scummy tactics

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Yet again

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devout kiln Jul 14, 2020, 6:42 PM

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when driving a 252u youre not allowed to complain about the other broken tanks you meet

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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You think 252u is OP?

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:21 PM

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It not maybe complete op as smasher but stronger than 70% of tank it faces. Only tank I find more stronger than object 252 is action x.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Action x has less reliable armour

robust yoke Jul 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@median wagon Camping Smasher makes more sense than camping T49

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:23 PM

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And I only play 252u because heavies are being spammed so I might as well be one

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@worldly anvil true that but action x allows for more flexibility than object 252. Plus if used gun depression on action x good luck push on it without have to lose a lot of tank hp.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:29 PM

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@hazy bronze 252u would just block all the dmg

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And then slap them for 420

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@worldly anvil wait action x would get up by dpm and hatches on top.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:31 PM

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What, in 1v1s?

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I think action x would have higher chance to win vs object 252 out of most Scenarios during battle.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I dont think so. 252u has much, much better armour and alpha, its literally an is7 at t8, except with the same/thicker armour 2 tiers lower

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Um, 252u has such a poor DPM and AX has a great one

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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252u’s survivability is unparalleled at t8, and because of that it can do much more than just hull down. It can facehug, sidescrape, peekaboom, push a flank more effectively, hold a flank more effectively, while AX can only hull down and farm.

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Armor and alpha is nice but think stop the object 252 be better from action x would be speed plus armour can only take so much. As where action x has speed and less reliable armor but if used turrent then should have no problem

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:38 PM

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AX’s turret is actually weaker than 252u’s, because of the hatch, and the hatch on AX is easily penned by most premium rounds. Also, AX has to peek a LOT more than 252u to be effective, therefore longer exposed, more potential damage taken.
Not sure but i think 252u’s top speed is relatively high

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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In a face to face fight AX would win with its great DPM

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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252u’s top speed is 35, reverse is 14, and AX’s is 38/12
Ah yes age old 1v1s totally relevant

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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In the infamous tier 8 tourney it’s the 252u spam that wins not the AX spam right

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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For most Battles most time you will 1v1 other player or at least 3

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Lmao what
252u is more broken

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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AX is more broken

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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In pubs, yes
But in high rating games it’s not

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Yes, thats why 252u is a better choice for ratings

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I don’t even consider 252u broken, poor gun, giant lower plate and slower than the other clones

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Bruh its pike nose is so strong it can sidescrape
What

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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When did I say it didn’t

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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BUT
High rating games actually have rotations and rushing singled out players, and then the other team does the same
When getting rushed 252u lasts way longer than an action X

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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252u is so good at face hugging until you meet a tall tank

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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What’s a tall tank that’s good in tier 8

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Lowe, tiger 2, EXP, action x

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Exp ehhhhhh

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:46 PM

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True that object 252 will last longer than action x when rushing but how long do think your team will last before action x kill rest of your team.

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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When it comes down to dpm brawling other tanks can work better than AX

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AX is a cronked jack of all trades which can definitely pub stomp but when it comes down to it AX is still the master of none and there r better specialized tanks for it for a skilled player

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 7:54 PM

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True that but I would not say it not jack of all trades because every single job does that heavy need to do and sometimes even better than most only tank would better than it would be object 252u and vk 100 other that action x would own of rest of tier 8 heavys and if add the regrenade.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Action X cant exactly hold very long
Yes it can bleed them, but that wont matter when you get rushed by 2-4 tanks with your team to either side
A 252u would survive longer, allowing the team to farm
252u is better at helping the team, AX is better for one individual’s stats

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And wins > personal damage in ratings

bleak crest Jul 14, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Is the new crate tank good for rating? I mean to play it cause buying will clearly have some other perks not mentioned...

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:06 PM

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No, sconq is balanced, therefore bad for rating
Renegade probably will be good for ratings

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:15 PM

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If your team is rush by 2-4 then match is already over then it matter of farming damage.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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No, you should have 1-2 teammates behind you, minimum
Or at least nearby

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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You think people care about teamwork in ratings?

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People are way more selfish in ratings

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Not sure if read this right but you say object 252 is better for team then actions x for better individual stats and wins? Or meant say for object

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@median wagon They want to win, dont they?
@hazy bronze 252u is better for the team, and action x for an individual.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Um there is hardly any teamwork in ratings, there’s lots of people who do scummy tactics like camping

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@median wagon there doesnt have to be teamwork for there to be wins

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I will say that object 252 is better for team but all depend on how good your team truly is.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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All the smashers I’ve seen this season camped

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@hazy bronze Annnddd thats one reason why the 252u > action x in ratings.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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People are really desperate to win in ratings, so they’re selfish and do scummy tactics like camping

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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In rating damage is key don’t lose a lot of points how moveup

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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90% Sure most people would rather win and gain points than lose and lose less points

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Ratings is only sweaty because of the IS-6 fearless reward

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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No, sweating is for people who aren't good enough to not sweat

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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That’s what I mean, tryhard rerolls

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Ok, then what

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Idk why I’ve seen so much more rerolls these days

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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In ratings, 252u > action x.
In pubs, theyre somewhat equal.
and yes this is #rating-battles

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Object 252 is limitation is team as where action x is not base team effort so much less points if were play action x because you can end up do more than object 252.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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A lot of rerolls come crying to me in DM after a rating match, “those stats hahaha” “56% trash”

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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252u can do completely fine by itself, its not team dependent.
@median wagon thats your problem lmao
rip

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Some noob even tried to stat shame me, idk why

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They’re all nice until you miss 1 shot 😂

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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It depend how good team last or even helps. Most of time average 3 or 2k min depend how fast your team wins or team loses. But I think will climb much faster in action x then were play object 252

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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And firing more shots gives extra points in rating

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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2-3k is a pretty big range
252u can do just that same amount, especially because it can survive so long with higher alpha
Pretty sure firing more shots does not give more rating, its just more potential for assistance or module damage

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Droodles even made a video for it

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Droodles thinks the is7 and the 5a are good, i wouldnt trust what he says

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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And there was a proof, when he played mk1 defender, he lost much less points

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Because of more module damage, more tracking assistance? That would be understandable.
It would be a bit stupid of WG to make it so that more shots = more points.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:32 PM

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5a isn’t too bad

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:33 PM

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It is bad compared to most other t10 heavies.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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WG actually nerfed it in testing

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ok

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Ok

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Only think make 5a is negative would pen on premium ammo if they buff man it would powerful tank.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Not really

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:36 PM

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I think that tank is really nice hulldown, it has 7 degrees of depression and possibly the strongest turret in the game

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:37 PM

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when people cant aim at your hull, yes

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 8:37 PM

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It’s not that awful

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I know, ive played it plenty

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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If people at aiming at you that mean your also aiming at them.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Bruh thats amazing logic 200 iq
Something called crossfire, flanking, and peekaboom maybe?

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:40 PM

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All in one.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:41 PM

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yes very 200%

hazy bronze Jul 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Still it amazing tank maybe next time.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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no

late mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Droodles is just wrong.

I tried myself just about all the fast-firing and auto-loading tanks, and NONE of them performed any better than normal tanks. No more points gained, or less points lost.

lean zenith Jul 14, 2020, 9:16 PM

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There's 1 thing you missed, you aren't Droodles

late mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:21 PM

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He doesn't even have a rating for July. Zero battles.

Probably basing his opinion on just a few battles where he did well with autoloaders.

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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It was a common trend in his matches with mk1 defender

late mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:22 PM

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So that tank is OP? I don't have it.

next gull Jul 14, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I did not notice anything particular either. However I was using the amx French heavies which have long reload.

lean zenith Jul 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I think it has to do with shots hit since autoloaders like the 13 57 and mk1 have meh alpha, but a good clip damage. This leads to more shots hit for the same amount of damage, leading to possibly more xp and rating gained

late mural Jul 14, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Well it doesn't make sense the # of shots hit should mean anything for XP or rating points. Never heard that claimed anywhere else either.

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Pretty sure its just more module damage/tracking assistance/time exposed for spotting your own targets.

mossy badger Jul 14, 2020, 9:37 PM

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^^^^

lime sparrow Jul 14, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Having extra shots in the clip probably helps with that.

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Also when did Droodles say the 5a and IS7 were good for ratings lmao

median wagon Jul 14, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Never

worldly anvil Jul 14, 2020, 11:23 PM

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He said they were good tanks, i never said he said they were good for ratings

sand coral Jul 15, 2020, 12:42 AM

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honestly wouldnt surprise me if he did say that. i dont know what goes through his head when he starts running his mouth

lean zenith Jul 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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imo, only redeeming quality about the 5a is the good front, other than that, nothing about it makes it stand out

crimson goblet Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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5A is like the sconq,not necessarily bad,but just balanced,which many seem to have an issue with

worldly anvil Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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They are average/balanced, but not good

sonic sedge Jul 15, 2020, 8:35 AM

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You can choose the best tank you can for ratings but if the players you’re dumped with are not so good or don’t choose good tanks (like the T44, under 1000 battles player 🙄) & the tier 9 td you also have on your ‘team’ gets destroyed within the first minute then it’s irrelevant which tank you use, because no matter how well you do 99% of the time your (not so personal) rating is going down!

agile sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Yeah you might get stuck with some nab with 70k games who can't accept that actually it's his fault is rating goes down and then it becomes lots lots more difficult to win

crimson goblet Jul 15, 2020, 9:47 AM

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lel the xp number is scuffed :D

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crimson goblet Jul 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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hmm i dont need to spam "op" tanks to win games and have good results? :O how shocking

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austere hedge Jul 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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wow thats a good game

crimson goblet Jul 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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had 2.6k assist with 1.7k blocked

austere hedge Jul 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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damn

narrow spruce Jul 15, 2020, 11:45 AM

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eternal gazelle Jul 15, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Give me a team with brain pls

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median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Oof

lime sparrow Jul 15, 2020, 3:21 PM

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At that range, the most points that people lose is around 5-6. So something tells me that you weren’t really playing that well either

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Everyone hates me using this tank for some reason and I get really upset I’m just a tank trying my best!

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I think this tank is great but everyone hates that I play as it and I get comments saying here comes the 112...

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Although trying to get the E-75 just so I can have another tank to lay with is a pain.

lime sparrow Jul 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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That’s not a bad tank though. You sure you’re getting flamed just because of your tank choice?

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I doubt it’s the tank that causes it

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Everyone hates that tank for some reason. So as the Action X.

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 3:32 PM

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You probably play poorly

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I’m a person that recommends were our team goes. Then since I’m usally at the top of the roster, they all follow me.

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And no, I actually play strategically while all my teammates don’t know what their doing.Then we get killed easily. The 112 is such a top tier tank everyone thinks they should follow it. It’s just such a pain how the whole team just doesn’t listen and go follow me.

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My point is, play strategically. Don’t just follow people.

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 3:37 PM

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You’re in silver league

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 3:41 PM

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glacial is honestly super underrated

mossy badger Jul 15, 2020, 3:49 PM

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ok please don't be one of those people who think "oh im at the top i should be making calls"
I've seen about 5 people say that and everytime that happens we get steamrolled
please Please PLEASE don't make those calls

neat slate Jul 15, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Im at the top of the roster!
listen to me!1!!!1!1!

ornate spoke Jul 15, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@terse current the tank you are driving doesn't mean you get to make calls

next gull Jul 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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@terse current you know alphabetic order ?

crimson goblet Jul 15, 2020, 4:48 PM

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it seems funny how he apparently he never realised exactly that xD

native marten Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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My point is, play strategically. Don’t just follow people.
@terse current playing strategically can include following your team if you see it as a good option, playing strategically isn't just 1v7 epic 10k damage kolobanov carry games

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Thanks for the info... I’ll get back to that.

lean zenith Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Your team may be nubs, but every shot they take is beneficial to the team. Every hitpoint of damage they lose is a hitpoint you could have lost. Every bit of damage they do is a chunk off the enemy hp pool. Just because they can't carry a team doesn't mean they aren't required for a win.

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Actually I don’t make the calls either. I just go my own way and everyone follows. But thanks for the info everyone.

native marten Jul 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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just make sure that when you head your own way, your team does follow (unless it's some calculated risk, e.g. heading on your own to a flank because you're confident that you can beat the enemy in a 1v1 situation) and that you have a backup plan in case it does go wrong

ornate spoke Jul 15, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@terse current the best advice I can give is to learn the good players and the good clans. If you see those players make a call you should follow it.

On the other hand if you see a clanless player or the dreaded player####### you should probably do the opposite of whatever call them make.

agile sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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^ or look for avatars, if you see one that is hard to get or the lowest avatar (used to try and avoid focus by some) and it should tell you whether it's worth listening or not

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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When people focus me in ratings they usually mess their team up because they’re overexposing themselves just to shoot me

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@ornate spoke hey.... I am currently clanless. Does that mean people should do the opposite of the suggestions I give

agile sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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As a general rule yes they should, it's rare to see a good clanless player like yourself and so unless you recognise a username it's a good idea to stick to that rule imo @pine falcon

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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im sad now

ornate spoke Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@pine falcon there are always exceptions. Generally speaking what I said stands though.

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Nothing personal

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I've also seen a few player#######'s who know what they are doing but the are few and far between.

agile sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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The amount you will gain by correctly hoping a player is an exception is a lot less than the amount you will loose by incorrectly assuming that, so it doesn't make sense to do that. The only way to go against that is to have an avatar that requires skill

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Bruh

terse current Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Understood.

robust yoke Jul 15, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Save some time to read a book. EU server down 🙂

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@agile sphinx the are no avatars that requite skill except the pro and the challengers

agile sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Exactly lol 🤷‍♀️

hazy bronze Jul 15, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Got question that people do rating on na? Where point that start earn less 20 per wins

sick leaf Jul 15, 2020, 8:35 PM

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If a player has a bunch of kalobanovs and raisins he is probably a good player, unless he is a sealclubber

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Raiseniai are just luck

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Raseinai medals are nothing but luck...

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@median wagon damn you stole it my message xD

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I have only 9 kolobanovs in my whole 20k matches

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So some kolobanovs are also luck, like if your team has the upper hand cap

sick leaf Jul 15, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Not many 40%ers have 20 raisins is what I meant, so they more likely are good, or they play a lot of low tiers.

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 8:40 PM

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not many 60%ers have 20 raseiniais too. Also stop calling the medal a raisin...

median wagon Jul 15, 2020, 8:41 PM

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It shouldn’t be the most honoured medal either

sick leaf Jul 15, 2020, 8:44 PM

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It’s hard to spell raseiniais but sorry. I was just saying that if a person has one of those avatars, there is a higher chance he is a good player and if you have no clue, it’s better to listen to them. I am not saying that people with those avatars are for sure good players or that getting rases or kalobanovs makes you good, or that they mean you are skilled or anything like that.

neat slate Jul 15, 2020, 9:01 PM

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raseinias involve some skill, but its mostly depends on luck that you land in those situations where you can achieve that.
The first time I got that medal was in a tog lol

edgy wigeon Jul 15, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Im just want to ask if its normal to lose 25/24 battle

pine falcon Jul 15, 2020, 9:13 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

restive dawn Jul 15, 2020, 9:21 PM

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6 ras, 119 pools, 178 kolos in 60k games

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Got my first ras at about 30k games

native marten Jul 15, 2020, 9:25 PM

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bruh I'm at like 12k games or something and have yet to get a single ras lol

cyan crag Jul 15, 2020, 9:30 PM

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You can tell at times when a 40 wr makes a call

blissful portal Jul 15, 2020, 9:54 PM

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What is better than a great staring of ratings day with 8 loses in a row lol

restive dawn Jul 15, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Team’s fault

tall berry Jul 15, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yep always the teams fault if u lose

blissful portal Jul 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

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@restive dawn Yeah basically in 7 of the 8 battles i finished top dmg... teams suck

blissful portal Jul 15, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Ive reached 4.9k points more than 5 times and then i get back to 4.8 again thanks to this trash noobs

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Never struggled so much at platinum bots league

native marten Jul 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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cool story bro

worldly anvil Jul 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Plat is either where the decent players are, or the average players with too much time on their hands with good tanks are

blissful portal Jul 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I wish this was a story but not, i need to get the disgsuting teams where a player or 2 goes alone to one side, they sit in the open with a TD....

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@worldly anvil i dont think so, around 3.5k to 4.5k full of bots

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All i get is newbie with 0 experience using premium tanks or 40% that dont even listen or watch minimap to follow team

worldly anvil Jul 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Well 48% is the average player’s WR, so...

warm charm Jul 15, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I’ve been in diamond at least like 8 times by now

worldly anvil Jul 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Diamond isnt the hardest to get to, just need some time and some skill, and you’re in
(not to put down your achievement or anything :/ )

warm charm Jul 15, 2020, 11:55 PM

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The problem is the moment I reach diamond I lose like 5 in a row but it only takes like 2 to get back up. My rating wr is already lower than 50 which is just stupid becuz I had almost 70% in my first 80 battles

blissful portal Jul 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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@worldly anvil I know, but one thing is win with help or lose with a decent match and other thing is to be last tank standing and having players that died in the first minute or that couldnt even reach 1k dmg with a tier 8 tank

worldly anvil Jul 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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I mean
Even though its a team game
In pubs and stuff
U gotta work with your team, and use them, at the same time
Their HP is important to you, so if theyre getting rushed, try to output as much damage as possible to the rushing enemies
So your team has a better chance of winning
Their damage doesnt matter as much as yours
;-;

mellow aspen Jul 16, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Man I feel so attacked 30 games in a rating today and I have people on my team with 0 damage in every single game win or lose , But the enemy lowest has almost 1k damage.

warm charm Jul 16, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@worldly anvil there’s only so much u can do when ur meds peek and almost die in the first 30 sec, or when the td covering u somehow dies b4 u

mellow aspen Jul 16, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I have 4,300 points but all my teams the highest I seen was 3,6k while the enemy has 3 people over 4 k like how is this remotely fair

warm charm Jul 16, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Yesterday it took me 30 battles to fall from 5k to 4.9k, was literally winning 1 out of every 5

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 12:13 AM

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"fair"
rating means nothing these seasons

blissful portal Jul 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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@mossy badger i agree with you just cause im tired of the top players spamming the broken Vk Cruiser... they just cant stop winning...

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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no i mean a monkey that knows how to push buttons can be 1st place if it has more time than other players

blissful portal Jul 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Thats also true, im on holidays right now but the top players are every day spamming ratings lol and with this thing of "StayHome" everyone is spamming even more lol

autumn wave Jul 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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just play in like December you’ll get the fearless ez

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 12:34 AM

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^^^^

native marten Jul 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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okay guys remind me to tryhard ratings 4 months from now then

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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ok tryhard in 4 months from now @native marten

native marten Jul 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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thank you @mossy badger

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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np

blissful portal Jul 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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lol

eager carbon Jul 16, 2020, 10:15 AM

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this gamemode is broken
Got 2 dudes from bronze league while im from gold.
Why? Nobody knows
One of them had a T22 Med. 800 average and 35 wr on it
And i checked everyones stats
I was the only player with above average stats on my team, and the enemy team there was only 1 as well.
This is basically a 1v1 mode but each team has bots on them
The noobs want IS-6 Fearless so badly they spam ratings hard
Pls fix this mode, nobody should get bronze league teammates when their gold. My mate thats at diamond also gets bronze sometimes.

crimson goblet Jul 16, 2020, 10:24 AM

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they cant make that a thing,as its to balance the rating points giving you an average,meaning a high one is likely to meet/have a long one

warped rain Jul 16, 2020, 10:42 AM

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4 players without damage in my team...

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bleak crest Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 AM

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It’s impossible to play this game be it random or rating if useless players aren’t removed.

restive dawn Jul 16, 2020, 12:15 PM

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You realized you just made it very ez to get roasted woth that

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 2:08 PM

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My chimera is so supportive, he obviously carried the game

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eager carbon Jul 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@median wagon Hes a god

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Can’t believe this teamwork

eager carbon Jul 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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just got this awsome godlike player. He rushed a 3v1 and died. What a pure legend @median wagon

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because who needs a player with 1k average dmg when you can get this legend with 94 average dmg

sonic sedge Jul 16, 2020, 3:18 PM

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He was trying to help your ‘personal rating’ no doubt 😂

opaque edge Jul 16, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Not sure what's shown on video with Chimera?
His full HP?
Your miss because of hull travers?
Did he bump in to you?

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 4:28 PM

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duh

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 4:28 PM

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He reversed into me which made my tank turn

sonic sedge Jul 16, 2020, 4:31 PM

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😁🍻

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worldly anvil Jul 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I mean
Ok?
Good for you, but

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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it finally happened

fallen mortar Jul 16, 2020, 4:50 PM

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@mossy badger nah thats what you can say when he reaches 4k rating

mossy badger Jul 16, 2020, 4:50 PM

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:0

lean zenith Jul 16, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I reached 4k in like 7 games with my Lowe, honestly not hard

hexed nexus Jul 16, 2020, 7:18 PM

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723 tourneys

gusty gust Jul 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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What if ratings score was based on base xp and not on winning the game?

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Because these days it sucks massive cupola

rose path Jul 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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scarlet fox Jul 16, 2020, 7:45 PM

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What if ratings score was based on base xp and not on winning the game?
@gusty gust I rate that idea solid banana out of 10

gusty gust Jul 16, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@scarlet fox Well bananas kind of describe what ratings are like right now. But what do you think?

scarlet fox Jul 16, 2020, 7:52 PM

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It's what I've said all along about ratings. The system rewards battle spam and damage at the moment. I think a month of ratings is too long and I would like to see a longer weekend of ratings (say Friday to Monday) in one tier only, tech tree only.
And then indeed base the rating points on XP with maybe a set reward for each spot in a team.

gusty gust Jul 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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That's a solid idea, removing premium tanks will force people to actually git gud rather than spam Vk90 or Chieftains all day

neat slate Jul 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Ratings is a 1v13. You are against enemies and also competing with your team to get as much damage as possible

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I do not think that should be the case that you should be looking to farm as much damage as possible

jagged dirge Jul 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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to avoid rating battle spam being the main factor, another idea is where you introduce a hard cap on the ratings, say 5500 or something (it geniunely doesn't matter). and you let everyone keep the rating from the previous season. That way the highest players consistently stay at the top, average players will average out into the respective ranks. You introduce a hard win / loss system where everyone loses the same amount regardless (again the number actually doesn't matter, besides for mmr cases) and newer accounts are placed based on current placement system.

And for actual prizes, just introduce a minimum battle count to qualify.

scarlet fox Jul 16, 2020, 8:19 PM

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@jagged dirge problem with a hard cap would be that people will stop playing once they reach that level

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Even more so if you keep the ratings after a season

jagged dirge Jul 16, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@scarlet fox i know I didn't explain this, but I'm referring to a hard elo in my system, so at the very highest, (going to use 5000 points as an example) you'll only be able to receive 1-6 points on average on a high level game (say 4800 points on average) so it's nearly impossible to reach the actual peak. Plus it only accelerates the reason why some people play, better matchmaking over all. And the rewards will be better distributed to not the most devout to the battle button.

scarlet fox Jul 16, 2020, 8:23 PM

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That sounds logical indeed. I would like to see that tried by WG 👍

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Also, a smaller time frame would probably make the pool of players a bit bigger, so MM actually has players to choose and spread.
I've seen differences of about 2500 rating points in match which is just too much

gusty gust Jul 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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We can only hope WG actually takes advice from the community and so far I don't know if they are keen on that

jagged dirge Jul 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I haven't seen those kind of games, but unbalanced matchmaker is pretty unfortunate.

white spruce Jul 16, 2020, 8:26 PM

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lol just put +/-500 matchmaking in place

copper mauve Jul 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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teams in rating are either

A: clueless guy who decided to check rating out after maxing his first tier 7

Or B: extreme spartan-level tryhard (usually on the enemy team)

neat slate Jul 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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A move away from farming as much damage would be appreciated. A hard win/loss system would put more strategy into games. Right now, it’s just a case of surviving as long as you can, and doing as much damage as possible, leading to people playing more passively and not wanting to make a play towards a win.

gusty gust Jul 16, 2020, 8:27 PM

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One problem WG has with matchmaking system as it is is that they prioritize speed over everything else and sacrifice many things for that

jagged dirge Jul 16, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I don't think it does do that tbh, it doesn't blantantly throw the first 14people who queue in.

It at least tries to create "fair" games based on preexisying conditions

native marten Jul 16, 2020, 8:36 PM

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from what I’ve seen it tries to make teams based on the average rating but unfortunately since there aren’t that many ratings players, you can’t say, match 7 5k+ players with 7 5k+ players, instead the matchmaking is forced to just give you overall lower ratings players if your rating is high in order to bring down your team’s average rating to about that of the enemy team’s average rating

neat slate Jul 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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There isn’t enough incentive to play ratings unless if you have the time to end up at the top of the leaderboard, so people start tuning out of ratings.
As said above, the range of players rating in a game becomes larger as the matchmaker tries to make fair games with a smaller pool of players.

A temporary avatar and camo for anyone outside of the top of the leaderboards is just not enough for the average player to come back and do ratings again.

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Isn’t ratings really active now because of the fearless reward

neat slate Jul 16, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I haven’t seen much of a difference.

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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@median wagon this season there is barely any good players playing

restive dawn Jul 16, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Dont they want a poopootier premium?

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 9:03 PM

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So many t92 spammers

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@restive dawn don't be mean to me but I want the tonk too :>

hazy bronze Jul 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Guess for you got this month and next one then you got tank

deft perch Jul 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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i can almost do rating battles

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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im gonna tryhard 2 season and then the next will be semi-tryharding,

hazy bronze Jul 16, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yeah same here for most part need try 2 months then from there is really since all need top 30 or less for me at least on na sever.

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:33 PM

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also I want the fearless for the main reason being that I don't even have an IS6....

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I want the fearless because it’s my IGN

hazy bronze Jul 16, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Yeah I hope you enjoy the is 6 fearless

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I’ll just assemble the certificate and then it’s gonna be a novelty

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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once the good players get the fearless rating is going to die down again and will force WG to "popularize it" by making stuff up like RBM/RBC etc.

median wagon Jul 16, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Or they could add another tank you get, I don’t want it to be only the fearless

pine falcon Jul 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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I mean, that can be interesting but there will definitely be people who would complain that they didn't get the tank.

queen lichen Jul 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Wg add the MS-1 as the rating reward

hexed nexus Jul 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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hazy bronze Jul 16, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yeah it guaranteed that sooner or later going add tank only get ratings

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:14 AM

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needs to be more rewards for gold and platinum players
thats definitely not hard at all to implement you could literally add like 5 lines of code and boom theres so much more incentive to play at least

lean zenith Jul 17, 2020, 3:19 AM

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or make it so diamond players get both the plat and diamond camos

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:21 AM

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@lean zenith if only that were the case lol

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:21 AM

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ok but one camo is not an incentive to play 50 battles
im talkin real rewards like at least credits and free exp

tall berry Jul 17, 2020, 3:22 AM

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ye free xp would be nice

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:23 AM

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and once the skill tree is actually fixed and battle spammers cant get close to top 100 or something, then make gold rewards more generous to push people from gold to plat and plat to diamond

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@mossy badger What mean by skill tree?

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:33 AM

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a little unclear but i mean when the rank is actually ranked in skill instead of battle spamming

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Well do you mean pc version of ranked or more. Well skill can be hard to judge because not all tank are equal even if it only Tech tree tanks.

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:41 AM

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scroll up to what jibril and what martin g said

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:46 AM

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So what get at all players start same position only move if win or lose. The players win get higher points so not matter how games you play. Only winning matter is that right.

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:47 AM

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like season 1 yes

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:49 AM

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It good idea but not sure if how play out in real battle because it sounds more like pc in wot ranked.

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:50 AM

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in season 1 all the top players were actually good players
to the point where when you see a someone whos diamond ranked you'd actually be like "wow" diamond instead of "oh a diamond"

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:52 AM

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What made season 1 different from rest of season till now cause never care about rating so can explain to me.

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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there was no timegate which was great
and again ratings was playing to win rather than playing for as much damage as possible so you don't lose as many points
--> better team coordination

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Was it same formula as it now or was different first season because time gate does mean player limited on point they could earn. Guess back then was not really power crept is now during rating.

white spruce Jul 17, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I have a reward system to suggest -
Bronze league - avatar
Silver league - avatar + 5k fxp
Gold league - avatar, 500 gold + 10k fxp
Plat league - avatar, camo, 750 gold, 10k fxp
Diamond league - avatar, camo, 1k gold, 20k fxp, parts for a vehicle

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And maybe wg u could make parts and charms universal so if you don’t get the action x from crates but u get 5 charms you can get the other charms from ratings

sick leaf Jul 17, 2020, 5:36 AM

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No way, literally no way wg would give that much gold for free. But if they did I guarantee you the number of people playing ratings would skyrocket.

white spruce Jul 17, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Well they literally give you thousands of gold a month or whatever icr for just watching raid shadow legends ads so maybe they’d be willing to give you less gold for actually playing the game

sick leaf Jul 17, 2020, 5:38 AM

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It would be the easiest gold ever. Making gold is nothing and platinum is like 2 days of playing op tanks depending on how you calibrate

white spruce Jul 17, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Not if they toughen ratings and make it skill based as suggested above

sick leaf Jul 17, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I think it’s a great suggestion, just doubt wargaming would do it, though I hope they do it or something similar

white spruce Jul 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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They won’t everyone knows, it was just a suggestion

pine falcon Jul 17, 2020, 12:08 PM

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@mossy badger im talkin real rewards like at least credits and free exp You already earn enough credits in rating. if you do a decent job in platinum you get 80K+. if you are playing like a Lowe or a rev you get 100k+. In diamond credits are even more abundant. Free xp on the other had is a good idea

slim acorn Jul 17, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Hi All

median wagon Jul 17, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Professionals

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slim acorn Jul 17, 2020, 1:50 PM

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nice played man

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that is commen

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team always noob

sonic sedge Jul 17, 2020, 2:50 PM

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@median wagon you’re lucky, in one of my battles four of my ‘team’ scored a big fat 0/zero and one of those players is in platinum too!

slim acorn Jul 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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omg! i had that one time too

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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@pine falcon i mean then again a very popular and valid suggestion is to prevent premium tanks from getting in rating; so the rewards are on the brunt end after ratings is over rather than grinding in it

autumn wave Jul 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I love watching this channel

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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u mean u love watching stevo and cancracker enlighten your mind @autumn wave

autumn wave Jul 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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:]

tall berry Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ok but like only diamond league players should be getting gold

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:11 PM

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ig

hazy bronze Jul 17, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Unless make diamond so hard to get like only less .1 percent of players doubt ever give gold to any type of league for reach it.

worldly anvil Jul 17, 2020, 4:19 PM

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y u downvote the two fen1x players @zenith trellis

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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bc they spat on him

crimson goblet Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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its just coz they are in the same point range, if they are in the same clan doesnt matter

worldly anvil Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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bruh

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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point range?

bleak crest Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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It’s Friday and this game is useless again. Teams are full of muppets no matter the tier

crimson goblet Jul 17, 2020, 4:21 PM

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and there he goes again

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:21 PM

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every minute he speaks you gain 10 iq @crimson goblet

crimson goblet Jul 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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more intelligence also means you are easier to get affected mentally,maybe thats why i am mentally unstable..... 🤔

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:23 PM

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:0

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LMAO

crimson goblet Jul 17, 2020, 4:24 PM

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so you basically gave them a downvote coz they upvoted you? are you sane sir?

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:25 PM

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he didn't get enough cancracker in his life

eternal gazelle Jul 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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remove Sheridan and T92E1 in this mode

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And I don't think there's any need for an argument to justify to me

mossy badger Jul 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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eh

median wagon Jul 17, 2020, 5:00 PM

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At least I went up

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lean zenith Jul 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Imagine still having a problem with sheridans and e1s

floral flare Jul 17, 2020, 6:02 PM

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How were u the only oneto go up

median wagon Jul 17, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Because they played poorly

pine falcon Jul 17, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@agile sphinx you know how yesterday we were talking about avatars signifying skill? There are more than 2. In twister season the teams that reached top 8 (or top 4) I don't remember exactly got a permanent avatar with their clan logo on it.

median wagon Jul 17, 2020, 8:24 PM

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That’s only gonna make themselves more focused

worldly anvil Jul 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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There are 4/5 avatars than can signify some amount of skill

agile sphinx Jul 17, 2020, 8:43 PM

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@pine falcon Huh I didn't really pay any attention to that lol, I think I've seen maybe one or two people clanless and with the challenges avatar but I can't remember ever seeing one of those avatars...

crimson goblet Jul 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

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they only got pro avatars, what ur thinking of only some clans have like eg,no one this year received any tho @pine falcon

autumn wave Jul 18, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Where’s Stevo?

mossy badger Jul 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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grinding ratings

ornate spoke Jul 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Hi. How do I get to diamond? By grinding or just regularly playin 2~4games? I started gold 3.2k now I'm at plat 4.3k but I don't know if I can make it. I also don't want the fearless but I really wanna grind for those exp and credits after I got diamond so what tank should I play. Also, which tier is newbie friendly? I watch lots of vids and guides on yt and looking forward to your advice too

hexed solstice Jul 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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@ornate spoke playing casually, you’ll probably hit a wall between 4600-4900. I would reccomend getting to abt 4600, stopping for a few hours, then continuing so you don’t lose your mind.

ornate spoke Jul 18, 2020, 8:35 AM

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How about the tanks? I'm clicking t44/t54/m4 and the pantera. Sometimes is6. I have met tier 10s with my t54 but I stopped playing tier9 after gettimg ammo rack..

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The british td that 1tapped me*

hexed solstice Jul 18, 2020, 8:36 AM

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You’ll probably want to stick with the pantera. Staying at one tier is generally better, especially with tanks that you are comfortable with, unless your just grinding camos.

ornate spoke Jul 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Camo won't matter for me. I'll stick with the pant. Thanks :D

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Sorry if i caused inconvenience. Does average damage from rating battles affect overrall average damage?

hexed solstice Jul 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Np. The t44 is worse, in most situations, at least.

No inconvenience at all, lol.

No, average damage from ratings do not affect stats

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Glad I could be of assistance

ornate spoke Jul 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Aye you helped me out quickly thanks😆

hexed solstice Jul 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Lol, it’s getting really late (I live in the states) so I might see you around, but not for a while, at least 😂

Goodnight 🙃

ornate spoke Jul 18, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Sleep well👌

cloud flume Jul 18, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Same thing with me mate, proof the teams are just that bad

sonic sedge Jul 18, 2020, 10:12 AM

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@slim acorn this is the ratings thread so anything posted needs to be ratings related 😉😊

slim acorn Jul 18, 2020, 10:13 AM

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oh

autumn wave Jul 18, 2020, 12:50 PM

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:v

pine falcon Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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said stevo who complains about MM here

next garnet Jul 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Lol

hexed solstice Jul 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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MM is random, sometimes you get potatoes, other times you get unicums. It’s like rolling a dice.

normal garnet Jul 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Give Stevo mod so he can complain about MM and encourage others to do the same 🐀

bleak crest Jul 18, 2020, 2:46 PM

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MM is not random, it’s governed by the patent filed by WG in the US. You should check that out before posting nonsense. Unfortunately the rating MM didn’t escape the patent either so that’s why it’s similar.

fallen mortar Jul 18, 2020, 2:49 PM

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and earth is flat

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Clinton is a reptiloid and chemtrails try to kill us

junior flax Jul 18, 2020, 2:50 PM

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What are the best rating tanks ? Need suggestions. I will build a gaming pc next month. I will push for diamond league next season so yeah...suggestions plz

fallen mortar Jul 18, 2020, 2:50 PM

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T7 -> Smasher JPanther
T8 -> Prog 46 Chimera FV301 AX 252U WZ 112-2
T9 -> WT auf Pz IV british light T92E1
T10 -> pretty much all but team dependant tanks

junior flax Jul 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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T8 and above?

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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just play a tank you are good with, anything else is a bad suggestions

junior flax Jul 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Ohhh I see

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AX ,progetto 46 and T92E1 then. I have 57%+ in these and love them

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Thanks @crimson goblet

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 2:57 PM

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it just makes the most sense to me. why recommend tanks when they might not even fit your playstyle. that seems a bit reckless in my eyes @junior flax

junior flax Jul 18, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Ah I see. You have a point

worldly anvil Jul 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Well, i mean, there is no one playstyle, each tank has their own playstyle, its just preference over which playstyle you do best in or your favourite

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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thats basically what i meant, whatever just fits himself and how he plays tanks

worldly anvil Jul 18, 2020, 3:00 PM

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then say that lel

versed thunder Jul 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

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MM is random? in 50 years they havent been able to program any music player to play more than 5 songs out of 2000 on random so how have they masterd this one?

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 3:05 PM

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i dont get why people actually think mm is rigged, like wtf 😂 why would wg bother with your crappy results? they wouldnt benefit in the slightest from that, just play better instead of complaining towards others and pushing the fault away from yourself

agile sphinx Jul 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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MM is not random, otherwise we would have tier 1s against tier 10s. MM only looks at certain criteria, such as tank type and tier not any player statistics. The players you get is the random part, because the matchmaker doesn't look at that at all (unless you are playing tier 5 and below on EU or RU in which case it tries to keep people with more than 5k battles separate). The program simply doesn't look at that statistics, so it is completely random.

Thinking about it from a business point of view, it would make more sense for worse players to be given "better" MM so they win more, enjoy the game more and are more willing to spend money. This is ofc in the stupid scenario where WG cared enough to rig MM for people.

median wagon Jul 18, 2020, 3:41 PM

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The first 5k battles are better, that’s why rerolls have weird stats

pine falcon Jul 18, 2020, 3:53 PM

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remind me in 20 mins that I have to post something here

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@pine falcon

mossy badger Jul 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I've said it many times if u want good mm start playing on tinder or something not here ffs

pine falcon Jul 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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oh ye. Give me a sec to finish the match

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Just a short summary of the battle before the conclusion and my point. In this battle we see that the ISU and I are on nearly the same points. As seen in the screenshots ISU did 3K (he did not camp but was second line). I did 1K dmg (was too slow to get any other damage out). However I gained almost equal (and more) points that the isu which is due to the 2.4K assisted damage. And that brings me to the conclusion.
Both and and ISU are almost on the same points. We gain basicsally the same points. His total damage (done by him and assisted was 3211) my damage (done by me and assisted is 3347). What I am hinting is that assisted damage is equal to regular damage meaning that instead of trying to HE pen the tank, you can for example go for the track and get the enemies entire HP pool as assistance damage.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551376189089120256/734080198357680219/IMG_20200718_191229.png?width=734&height=413
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551376189089120256/734080198575915078/IMG_20200718_191212.png?width=734&height=413

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Tell me what you think of this "speculation".

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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well thats basically how gaining xp works, so your right on that one

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some mod pin this maybe so people stop complaining about points earned ^

mossy badger Jul 18, 2020, 4:28 PM

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thats why meds or lights with good dpm are often the best at grinding points bc spotting assist damage is so easy along with your own
and heavies dont benefit from blocking say 10 shots or something

agile sphinx Jul 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@pine falcon You think you could ask the ISU what xp he got from that game and compare that as well? (because you cant see other peoples base xp in ratings right?)

pine falcon Jul 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

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ill see what I can do

next gull Jul 18, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@pine falcon sounds like XP based points to me too. Not sure it reduces merely to damage only, but it must be a large part. Probably cap reset, capture points... would increase your rating points.

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This is probably what some struggle to get when they think that they should get rating points on a lose only because they made more damage than their team.

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 5:41 PM

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what gives exp is:
damage, kills,cap points earned/reset, supremacy points(massive for xp),rare medals and spotting dmg aswell as critical hits,so module dmg(? i think, might be wrong on that one)

fallen mortar Jul 18, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@crimson goblet i dont feel like cap in encounter gives any exp

crimson goblet Jul 18, 2020, 6:19 PM

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it does but only very slightly

warm charm Jul 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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From wut I see rating is determined by xp and what ur current rating is

robust yoke Jul 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Well, the overall “award” system in WG in terms by xp (I.e. mastery classes, medals)

pine falcon Jul 18, 2020, 8:09 PM

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@crimson goblet wait? So like creitical engine damage (ie the icon becomes red) gives you base xp?

warm charm Jul 18, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Ig since it counts as module dmg

lime sparrow Jul 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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“I've said it many times if u want good mm start playing on tinder or something not here ffs”

I doubt that the majority of WG’s player base is legal for Tinder anyhow

queen lichen Jul 18, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I doubt the majority of the people here meet discord ToS but here they are

blissful portal Jul 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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What joke is is that enemy team has 4 diamond players in which 3 of them are over 5.5k points against 4 diamond players that are between 5k and 5.1k, where is the balance there....

worldly anvil Jul 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I mean, it cant be that bad

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 12:48 AM

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yea but r any of the people in high diamond for Na actually good players anymore

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most comp players won't even bother with an IS-6 and those who do have already gotten it

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lets see not gonna name any names but among top 10 they include someone who spams lucky player, a tier 8 grinder, an extremely toxic espanol man, and.....i havent even heard of 3-4 of them ever b4 what the

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Lol same for EU, it’s just people who spam broken tanks

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Ooooof ^ he is bigger detective than Sherlock Holmes

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Ok?

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:53 AM

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No not you, I’m talk about abc, he is big brain detective

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 12:54 AM

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playing like 10 battles with each of them and you can already know what you're gonna get
its the 7 deadly sins encompassed in each of them smh

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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@mossy badger yeah man that’s impressive memorizing so many people respect.

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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i wouldn't want to remember them its just scarred in my head
ill give it another few weeks and maybe ill forget about blitz

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I’m give up on rating because too time consuming for me. I only play few battles a day now

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 12:56 AM

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eh if you can just don't play at all
there's nothing really to do anyways

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:57 AM

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That’s true, I mainly play in tourneys now for fun

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And yeah a lot of people I see with the diamond avatar aren’t very good tbh

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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season 1 was the only time when even platinum players were respected in some sort

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yeah a lot of diamond avatar player I see are low-mid 50 winrate :/

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:00 AM

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People are hilariously toxic when they lose in ratings, especially the leaderboard players

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:00 AM

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^ Yeah too much toxicity also true,

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:01 AM

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what if I tell you I only behave when I know people on the enemy or my own team

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Isn’t that basically everyone?

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Yeah I think that’s everyone

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Oh... well ... toxicity is in everyone

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Ratings is apparently competitive as stated by WG, so swearing, begging the team to win and spamming broken tanks is competitive?

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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huh thats any comp playlist in any big game

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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No I think random battle are more competitive than rating since it count for stat

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I’m confuse why people toxic in rating battle when it not count for stats

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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in competitive you try to get the biggest advantage you can get even if its gamebreaking (like ra1d and fbi during spring season)

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I hate when people start rating matches when they know they have lots of ping

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 1:04 AM

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and the stat system is wack for ratings
i dont like it
it makes your stats wack when you try to break it down
or one example is that man with "100% wr in 2k" battles in NA

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Yeah the people that win 1 game in random battle then spam ratings 100% winrate 🤣🤣

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:05 AM

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It’s much harder to win in ratings than pubs, so I don’t think it should affect stats

mossy badger Jul 19, 2020, 1:06 AM

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then make it separate from career battle # as it's misleading af

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Leaderboard players are only rocket spammers

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Yeah it misleading and some people play 1 game and have 100 winrate 🤔🤔

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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@median wagon currently I am a leaderboard player (29th currently) and I am spamming Lowe and WZ120gft

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Wz120 🤔🤔

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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broken

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:09 AM

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rockets are a bit out of meta now. The current tier 9 spammed tank is K91

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Somehow it’s so hard to pen K-91 through the tracks for me

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Also, seems like hardly anyone is playing ratings this season, you’re at 5.3k and 29th, which is really high

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Yeah because rating is too time consuming and not rewarding

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:13 AM

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the climb is super easy currently. Just today ( or should I say yesterday as its 4.12 am) I climbed around 125 points (note my rating is high so points aren't obtained so easy nor are matches found fast)

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I’m only at 4.6k, hopefully might reach 4.7k tomorrow

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Good luck, hope you reach it^

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:14 AM

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spam german heavies in tier 8. Should get it easily.

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Just barely 5k should get me at least 15 parts, this ratings is really inactive compared to last season

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 1:15 AM

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yeah... yet these are people at 6K already

median wagon Jul 19, 2020, 1:15 AM

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No life sweats?

lime sparrow Jul 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I grinded to Diamond once. Literally sapped days out of my life. Never doing it again. Least I got a camo for my e5 tho

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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This game isn’t worth putting anything into it, be it time or money as it’s not providing a fair playing field and neither a pleasant gaming experience due to non existent team play, in a team game above all...

warm rivet Jul 19, 2020, 8:54 AM

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YeS!

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Then quit. If you think it's unfair, why play?

radiant cypress Jul 19, 2020, 10:15 AM

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@bleak crest and of course you've should meet the mods as well ^^

restive dawn Jul 19, 2020, 10:18 AM

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you can also be the one teamplayer in your team

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 10:41 AM

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And support 2 team members that stick together while we meet all 7 reds and the other 4 camp where they are and wait for the outcome... Too many times this happens in a row. It’s like it was planned. Over and over again. So I lose 20-30 points in those games while I win 20 in 4K games. Amazingly I win more of those...
There’s something wrong with ratings and it needs fixing, but nobody seems to care.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 10:42 AM

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@bleak crest Why are you still playing the game then?

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Also you said you do not care about the rating so what is the point of playing

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 10:52 AM

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I don’t care about that number associated with ratings as it doesn’t mean anything. It should enable me not to meet certain types of players but it’s not the case therefore it means nothing.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Again, why are you still playing the game?

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@bleak crest

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Because I have invested in it

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 10:57 AM

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You are not enjoying it, the game rather frustrates you and you are playing it only because you have invested some money into it, right?

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I’m not enjoying it on weekends and nothing is done to fix that. In ratings it’s possible but there seems to be no will to do it.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Ah, so you want to win 100 percent of the time and you expect teamwork from people all over the world

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 11:04 AM

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@bleak crest you bought entertainment. From what you have written here it seems that you have exhausted the entertainment that you got from that purchase. If you aren't enjoying yourself it is time to move on.

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And to be clear your return on your "investment" is your entertainment value. If you aren't entertained then you aren't getting a return on that investment. At some point you need to cut your losses.

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 11:20 AM

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How very convenient. Instead of looking into a problem and maybe finding a solution to improve the situation, the attitude is take it or leave it. Long term that’s not good business.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Improve what? Million of players?

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You think you are so good yet you struggle to pass the 4k mark, I guess it is very fair. If you were playing as good as you always tell others, you would be the best since day 1

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Improve the system obviously, how points are awarded and so on. And there aren’t millions of players.

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 11:32 AM

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The system works fine for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper mauve Jul 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

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same here, if you don’t wanna play, get out

agile sphinx Jul 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Figures aren't necessarily accurate but I doubt they would be 99million off 🤷‍♀️

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muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Why do you think you should be placed higher than your actuall "skill" ? @bleak crest

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Why do I lose 3-500 points on a weekend in ratings, especially after my premium account expired? I didn’t say I want to win 100% of the time. I want a level playing field and not having players that don’t really belong in certain battles.

copper mauve Jul 19, 2020, 11:40 AM

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idk, try not losing?

pine falcon Jul 19, 2020, 11:42 AM

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There is one question neither stevo nor cancracker have answered. What rating do you think you deserve?

white spruce Jul 19, 2020, 11:42 AM

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I deserve 10000 but matchmaking is so unfair

copper mauve Jul 19, 2020, 11:43 AM

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life of unfair get over it

agile sphinx Jul 19, 2020, 11:44 AM

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@white spruce U just nab git gud and carry and you can get to 10k rating like me ez

neat slate Jul 19, 2020, 11:44 AM

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If you are losing anything close to 500 points in that short of a timeframe, there is performance issues with yourself.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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@neat slate No!

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There is a WG employee that is making sure he does not win

copper mauve Jul 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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LOL

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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He is getting paid for watching his games and getting him low roles etc

white spruce Jul 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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No it’s because he hasn’t bought a premium tank

neat slate Jul 19, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Ah yes, rigged MM.

copper mauve Jul 19, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Ol’ reliable.

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Suddenly he is gone

neat slate Jul 19, 2020, 11:59 AM

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@muted shuttle They like to disappear when you start using logic against them

agile sphinx Jul 19, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Or whenever someone asks what rating they think they should be able to get to

ornate spoke Jul 19, 2020, 12:03 PM

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I think that some people are better suited for single player games...

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Or none at all

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Good joke. I'm watching MotoGp

muted shuttle Jul 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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You could have answered the question...

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Because my team underperformed. They don't listen, they split, they camp. The whole weekend on and on

restive dawn Jul 19, 2020, 12:21 PM

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there's also a player that thinks players wr is decided the moment they start playing

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you born as a 40er, 50ers, 60ers, and so on and you stay that way the rest of the time you play

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let me guess you're the first one to die?

neat slate Jul 19, 2020, 12:23 PM

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If you are losing up to 500 points on a single weekend, that isn’t just teams being bad. Thats you

desert kite Jul 19, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Because I have invested in it
@bleak crest didn’t you once say that players who buy stuff get 10-15% higher wr because of rigged premium mm and similar stuff?👀

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 12:26 PM

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That pay regularly and a serious amount. Not 10 € once a year

neat slate Jul 19, 2020, 12:27 PM

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How about for once you actually start looking at your own performance, rather than criticizing the rest of your team consistently. You might learn something and climb

desert kite Jul 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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As you invested money in this game anyways, then can you to some extent be considered as benefiting from this rigged mm granted by cash?

white spruce Jul 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Learning is overrated

desert kite Jul 19, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Wait, according to his own « rigged premium mm » theory, then cancracker, as a 60% player, would have been a 45% player if he did not spend any money on this game?🤔

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I probably benefited whe I bought the t34 for that ratings season. Now the tank is just ridiculous. Doesn't win a thing... Something was turned off for it.

restive dawn Jul 19, 2020, 12:46 PM

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half a brain maybe

plain hollow Jul 19, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Because my team underperformed. They don't listen, they split, they camp. The whole weekend on and on
@bleak crest Can you finnaly realize you are playing a game usually played on mobile, there is no game let alone mobile game where are all players good, I hope you didn't expect twister teams in normal battles...

bleak crest Jul 19, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I expect the same teams as during the week and the rating system to work and keep bad performers out of higher rating games

plain hollow Jul 19, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Well, i have not met any 2000 points in (platinum) rating, just a fact, random mode is for some reasons RANDOM so there is no system to get bad players out, If is it anying you, you can just press delte the game, and that will end your suffering.

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@bleak crest Or you can just buy smasher, and bring the suffering to your enemies :D.