#rating-battles
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The he damage is terrible now.
It was always 270
Well it's bad
Yea... that's a massive nerf. And it's still broken
Barely pen a lowe in the front
272 apcr pen
:/
🥵
oof
dOnT COmPLaIn aBoUT Mm. Reee
Use the AX or 252, oh, they cost money.
Tiger 2
AX is kinda broken imo, 252u is annoying but the gun handling is just bad and the lower plate is actually huge, it just gets dumb bounces on the side and the rear but whatever
The fact you drew shit on his name 😂
when someone hack in wot blitz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664800047447277570/726162128515366922/image0.png
Stealing my photos be like
you cant judge a player just by its battles im pretty since both 40k battles and people with 2k battles are bad and there is the ones that beat the crap out of you even if they only have 2k battles even tho they are rare
Those are called rerolls
And at high ratings they aren't rare they make up probably half the people you see lmao
80% the leaderboard players are rerolls
I can understand playing ratings to grind tanks because you can't ruin your precious stats that aren't even accurate but idk why you would go for the top with a reroll lmao
@agile sphinx its accidental. They grind for credits, free xp etc.
And since they only play rating, their rating constantly goes up and up and up
I guess so yeah that makes sense
I never understood why people reroll, it’s only understandable if you lost your main account, people want to abuse noobs in the 5k mm
It’s so hilarious when people compare reroll stats to true pros and think they’re better, and it’s even sadder having better stats than someone and not having to reroll
People like to fixate on stats a lot on Blitz.
Toxic rerolls=ashamed of stats on main account
@neat slate stats kind of portray the player. You can tell a crap ton about a player if you look at his stats
Can someone explain to me why a platinum rated teammate can go AFK in ratings battle, never move, and only lose 16 ratings points, while I, with my silver rating lose 25 points holding my own, losing a close one in a 6 vs 7 battle. Not the first time I have seen this.
They gain less points as well when they do score well.
You gain and lose more points at the lower leagues and vice versa in the higher leagues
Seems a little counterintuitive that they lose less points for poor play, but thanks.
higher leagues are like that
Once u go to the top
u gain 6 points for aces
and lose 6 points for flops
This ended up as a 6/0 loss, now I wonder why that was🤔 Answers on a postcard please 😂😂
- The enemies simply played better as a team
- You drove a super Pershing in ratings
- You probably drove alone on the opposite side of the map to your team
If you are trying to blame matchmaking with that picture, I do not see the issue.
Because E75TS, TigerII, type62 (and to some extent T26E4) are underperforming tanks ?
Type 62 is a good tank
The Super Perishing is definitively not a tank I would drive especially in ratings.
Ok?
Teams
Bro I had a skorpion G, 47wr, full newbie(and unskinned) and he rushed the med side on Castilla
That's why Teams are wrong today ! You know what ? A Tiger II destructed me and a KV-4 shot him after I was dead. But. KV-4 had the flank of the Tiger in sight and he reloaded. Teams are stupid, they let you die.
Smh, also I have people who play bot tanks in ratings like T28, or the Mr Died first minute and cries about the team
Smh ? What's that?
(Shaking my head)
(Okay thanks)
That's why I don't play ratings anymore
Smh, also I have people who play bot tanks in ratings like T28, or the Mr Died first minute and cries about the team
Same
I played AT-15 a few times and averaged 3k lmfao
what in the world would make you want to drive the AT-15
The will of have the most painful tank of the game
The most painful Tank is the ISU-152
Oh yes, missing a shot fully aimed in
Yeah but when you hit a Tank at the right spot then you can say bye bye to them
This game is simply useless on weekends that’s why I’m going to stop playing it. 6 years and they still don’t get that bad players ruin the gaming experience and they force them on us again and again. I was hoping rating will separate them but it’s not the case. Not to start about shots not hitting or simply disappearing with no packet loss, not damaging one shots and the whole lot.
git gud
I haven't had ghost shells since that last major buggy update
i had a few but that might just be a case of dumb luck
@next gull tiger 2 and type 62 underperforming????
I love Type 62
Is this season the last opportunity to get IS-6 Fearless parts?
Hopefully not
I have to grind extremely to get the 40 pieces that are left, if I fail ill get 30
Bro I need 60
Hopefully we will be able to get at least ten pieces next sesion
Oh don’t worry, WG will sell them soon
hahaha not again
WG, wasting people’s effort on getting things by selling them
The Kpf legendary camo for example
yes I know, hopefully this wont happen again
Jesus 6 years as well
I would assume that IS6Fearless part will from now on be available in rating forever
Jesus 6 years as well
@median wagon that's just account creation. I got some of those reward tanks on WoT PC too, just because I created an account in 2014
When does the current rating season end?
I’ve had some luck in ratings with the T26E4 (super pershing), that frontal armour is fairly strong as long as you move the turret around when being aimed at.
I usually use a variety of tanks as some maps specially flat maps are not suitable for some tanks like the OBJ252U with that large pike nose to try & hide!
Recently I bought back the ISU 152 (last time I had it it had no equipment as that wasn’t a thing back then) & thats not been too bad.😁
@autumn mulch end of this month
Ooh thanks dude
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omg can you tell me something?? Why is match maker in ratings so fking stupid?? Look at wr and avg damage (or all stats) of these players in one team and in second team. Just balanced af.
no swear
😂
I think it is too difficult to put players of the same level against each other. It has something to do with the intelligence of the people who work on this game. But then, dont call it rating.
the thing i dont understand is some light tanks get off with -30 rating and 0 dmg while im here with 1k + dmg and recieve -45 rating in a heavy.
whats worse is that very light tank asked me to spot for him
What’s worse is the smasher campers
@zenith trellis points earned/deducted is based on your rating.
A 5k diamond player will receive less for a win than a 4k platinum
Smh the #01 player in EU spammed T92E1 900 times in ratings
He’s getting the IS-6 fearless by spamming rockets, no skill
@median wagon Lorenzo?🤔😂
No, it isn’t him
9xp
9xp
That was a sick battle
only -45 points lost for doing legit nothing ?
oh my god, I just can't believe my teams! They're on a whole level of stupid!!! Hey, don't look at my stats. 45% and 800 average damage mean nothing, that's just RNG. But my team is even worse! 50% and 1000 average damage such garbage omg!!! When I do 801 damage I carry my team, and that's like every game. why do you think I'm carrying? Because thats more than my average damage, and if you don't think so, then you're a moron!!!!!1111!!!!11
If he has those stats, why does he buy special tanks smh
He’s convinced that his own mental handicap can be compensated by “better” tanks
Interesting how draws affect points distribution. We had 2 tanks left and had done 241 more damage, but had 329 less hp left. Overall the reds gained 34 points and the greens lost 27. Thats a huge difference in points for what was basically an equal battle where no-one won.
Superpersh is fun when no one knows how to counter it, but it's pretty easy, just shoot the turret ring, cupola, or the track wheel if it angles
Or you can shoot through the hatch in the front left
Ye
If you like the superpershing, try the amx m4 49. It's just a flat out better version of it
Can’t compare the 2
Oh boy, here I go again. They go the same speed (fast heavy and slow medium). Both have frontally mounted turrets with 10° of gun depression. Both have ideally strong frontal armor and paper sides. The amx has much more pen compared to the pathetic pen on the t26, causing me to use the gun rammer on the amx and calibrated on the t26, dropping 1/3 of the alpha for 1 second less on the reload. How exactly are there not comparable? The amx just takes the traits the superpershing has and does them better.
bruh I could not have been the only one who saw the AMX M4 49 in battle and for a split second thought it was a medium and not a heavy
I thought lorraine was a heavy tank for some reason, it looks very similar to AMX 50 100 that’s why
@narrow isle This channel isn't intended as your spot to complain about other players.
were can i do it to can someone from WG see with what players i must play every day ?
Preferably on some other server.
What can people talk about on rating battles? I’m not sure why this channel is so specific
you know that rating batlles sux i mean only rakets and bots
I do it for the daily challenges
and dont let players to talk about this
but they don't play rating and i think that no one its in top from WG.
Because this server is meant to be a place for all players. That is why.
and what did i tell? to kick players from server ? i want to tell that players with 600 battles have no space in rating battles.
Frankly you need to remember that this is a free mobile game. Expecting professional level players... or even players who give a care in every match is a completely unreasonable expectation. You don't know what is going down on the other side of the screen. Those players could be playing while commuting on a bus, for fun, or as an escape from real life. This server is meant to be a place for all of those players. Playing this game and to an extent joining this server is meant to be fun. How fun is it for a player to log in here and then see that a bunch of elitists are slandering them and players like them?
@narrow isle That isn't your decision to make.
form this that you write i understand that we have no right to comment about things that we dont like in this game... we must be like sheeps
What good comes from you complaining about players that you deemed to be unworthy of playing? Nothing.
What, a player with 500 matches in a T-22 medium spamming ratings?
just i hope some from WG to read my comments and to do something in this way, i have no other choice. There are a lot players that think like me ... just you to know!
Why is the shop so freely available for newbies, it’s my only problem really
If you are unwilling to accept the fact that you are going to be stuck playing with and against players who don't meet your standards then you may want to invest your time into a nice single player game.
@median wagon because the shop is what keeps the servers going. The game exists to make 💰 💰 💰
The fact a newbie is allowed to go into the shop and buy a tier X special tank without any experience of the others tiers is devastating
thats why i play Rating, but its strange that your personal rating depend from players like this that i post up
Players have been failing their way into tier X since the beginning. At least the ones buying tanks are supporting the game. Secondly the ones who drop real cash are more likely to try and improve. They may not be good now but they have the motivation of having spent money to try and improve.
Once you ménage to get above 5k your MM changes and you loose more you know why because you fight unicums a lot and yes if you don't play at peek times you will meet bots too and yes there are bad players at 5k to
It seems there are more newbies doing that than good players being put off by this happening so when the numbers are run the decision is clear
People who failed the way into tier X have actually had the experience of playing all tiers
Doesn't mean they learned from that experience...
@bleak crest the unicums are already so high in ratings that you won't meet them I have some in my clan around 300 battles and 5900 rating
yea i "support" to and for that i am angry ...
Also it’d take ages to fail into tier X, from this time frame they have more chance to improve
other thing itsh that you mix tiers on rating
@median wagon if you never learn to speak or nobody teaches you you won't learn it
I’m not talking about good players here, but those that are really not contributing at all or those that quit when the team decides to go elsewhere.
Also some are forced by missions to play ratings and they are not interested so they do nothing and hope the team wins.
make it t 8 with t 8 t 9 with t 9 and t 10 with t 10 when they want to play rakets to play in high t
In ratings I’d expect some actual team play instead of steamrolls from both sides
^^ exactly
I never understood why teams could be steamrolled in ratings so frequent
Do I have to explain about steamrolls yet again?
If you want teamplay tourneys are your best choice
Because there are some silver league players...
they have no enought players for that
Idk man, even from WG’s sayings they say it’s a “skill based” mode
You folks should be experienced enough to realize it only takes one good player or one mistake to create a steamroll.
Better players can exploit advantages better, and so as soon as one gun is out one team has an advantage, and will do better, so they are more likely to get another kill etc
@fallen mortar Ah yes tours
Tiers 10 where top clans train so if you meet them good luck
7-8 AX spam
5-6 ARL 44 spam
Sounds fun 😄
It takes only 1-2 bad or undisciplined players
Ah yes. Broken tanks, that’s why I want ratings tech tree only for one month
To reach the top you both need skill and time and skill decreases the time you need @eager carbon well I do play T10 tourneys and I am in a Top 15 clan on EU so we get the 5 wins most of the time
@median wagon one of the few things I support from the things you said
And those who arent in top clans? Oh right screwd
It’s my own personal opinion really, say anything. I won’t change it
For instance this was from yesterday I think, high ratings team and the game was over in 1:41, the other team just weren't ready for a rush and the greens played together.
make taring leagues !!!! all to 2999 in silver all to 3999 in gold all to 4999 in diamond and up !!!
@median wagon isnt it annoying how many new players and noobs and bots want the IS-6 fearless so they spam ratings with premium tanks only to die countless times in them?
The leaderboard players are tryhard rocket spammers, and yes there is a giant flood of noobs because they want the IS-6 fearless, noobs don’t realise they’re noobs
This game is supposed to be something you do for enjoyment. If you are half as miserable as you sound here I really think you might want to find a new hobby.
It’s supposed to be fun but some ruin it and there’s simply no will to separate them for their own good.
idk man. Maybe your enjoyment is seeing your rating points drop
Today i was matched with an E100 that blocked our jaggro from shooting why? cuz the jg apparently made the E100 cry on the last match
If you call losing countless times due to childish teammates like this as enjoyment you and i have diferent understandings of the word enjoyment
@narrow isle that is a horrible idea. Do you have any idea how long higher ranked players would be sitting in queue waiting for a match?
“Enjoyment” 😂😂
If you don't enjoy it why play?
@eager carbon top clans are top clan because they trained to be top Clan you don't just become one from doing nothing and even good clans get rekt by some 55% tourney teams because they learned how to play as a team and use good tactics it's all about practice not the wr the wr only shows how good you are with and against noobs
That’s why the leagues must be top down not down up
Well. To fill in some of my quarantine boredom I need something to do, also pubs is 100% at its best because all the bad players have been transferred to ratings
@fallen mortar dude i know how top clans work. Sorry if i dont spend 26 hours training out of 24. For a mobile game thats dying anyways
There are a million more productive things to do than play a game you don't enjoy 🤷♀️
Which games
Try racing games. They hit you at the first corner...
@ornate spoke probably will stop it soon ....
True there. 100% of all multiplayer games are all plagued with bots, Blitz just has more due to low tiers being so ez.
It doesn't have to be games...
@eager carbon top clans don't train all the time they train like 3 times a week against the usual clans and the rest is quick tournaments everyone else also plays
WG should just put ratings as tech tree only to see if this’ll fix any issues...
Ok? idk when i asked how top clans managed their training program but ok? idc?
Get yourself a kid and u won't have any free time for quite some years if you are so bored and take that with a grain of salt
Lmao 😂
Soo the game is dying so why do I see so many people crying about low battle count players? And yes I know lots of people left but there are also lots of people coming but idk I don't have problems getting decent rating teams so idk
@ornate spoke no idea its good , just top players will play with players from 3999 to 4999
my idea was that bots with 600 battes that have no idea how to drive they tanks to play rating. when you want they to play rating make them bots rating leagu up to 2999
The thing is what are the people getting 5k first supposed to do they already have really long waiting times espacially on Asia or na for the Russian server it may not be a problem at all but the small ones suffer a lot of the lack of players
what support can i have in team game like WOTB from player that dont know how to drive his tank ?
The game IS dying
Tutorial teaches barely anything
Newbies go from tier 1-5 in less than a week or straight up buy tanks or get them from the shops crates only to be bad at the game
The only way for WG to fix this is to at least make a competent tutorial. Im tired of seeing stuff like this
Or wg could recommend tank tutorials to the newbie, and if he watches it he gets a reward
aha
they should just copy paste the tutorial from WoT to WoTB
also im not taking any advices from the mister super skilled that considers tier 7 as seal clubbing @fallen mortar
i tell you make them league up to 2999
when someone rich 3000 will play with players with rating up to 3999
Ratings summed up
AX spam
ATGM spam
Newbies or noobs spamming premiums
Lots of bots
at this point anyone who complains about teams is probably bad at playing with the team
and wg do nothing ....@eager carbon
im sorry im sooo bad at working with the teams 😭 its all my faullttt im suuch a noob
@narrow isle you don't get it. How many players are ranked from 3999-4999? Now what are the chances that there will be enough of them in queue, in the right tiers, at the same time, to form a 7 vs 7 game. I'm telling you right now those chances are not good.
@eager carbon Nothing is ever going to stop people learning absolutely nothing about the game, you can't force people to learn and listen. As the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, and as a free mobile game there are a lot of people who don't want to drink
why do I keep losing? Is it the fact that I'm sitting at the back with an IS-4? Is it the fact that I'm driving a broken AX but still wonder why no one else can hang? Is it because I have a 40% winrate? NO!!!!1111 It's all WG's fault and rigged MM!!!!11!!!11
Lol calling mm as rigged is dumb. Sometimes it IS the mms fault but it has nothing to blame since its purely random. As an example: I got a BP, a Smasher and a Helsing on the enemy team. Ofc we got absolutely demolished. Was it the MMs fault? Yes ofc. Was it intentional? No lol the MM is purely random
@ornate spoke you must clear us normal players why
This is a team game and your rating reflects this. We are all going to have subpar teammates. There are those will adapt to what they are given and excel despity it and there are those who will complain on line about it. I wish we had more of the first here.
@narrow isle That "sentence" makes zero sense.
We complain for a reason. Maybe we are tired of teammates being babys and blocking other teammates just because they got offended from the last match
Problem with ratings is that its not fun, it is however, addicting. You play every round thinking, “Hmm maybe I can just have one, JUST one round where you do great and win. If you lose you’ll have the same mindset albeit more upset, and if you win you’ll want to play more thinking you might be able to get the fearless more. Reminds me of gambling Ngl. My advice for ratings for you guys out there is to not play it in order to keep ur mental sanity, or start playing when the hype for the fearless dies and all of the competitive players who wants it have it already. Summary: Ratings is addicting, not worth it IMO :/
@mellow flower agreed. Its like having a ton of money and crates with 1% chance for a T22 Med 😂
Some losses aren’t your fault, and cannot be turned into a win no matter what
- experiment with tech-tree only ratings
- maybe somehow incorporate tokens or parts of multiple vehicles bc we all have that 10/100 parts for some random tank that we got 2 years ago that will never come back
- make the rewards for winning MUCH higher for a win, and by league. There needs to be a constant reason to actually dip in (maybe remove the ratings missions though those are annoying)
For some reason some players have a lot more of those no win games than others...
I’m just saying some losses aren’t controllable
3 possible reasons for that
1 skill that somehow can turn a 3v7 into a 2v0
2 ATGM spam
3 broken tanks spam
ngl atgms really can't hang in a 1 vs many scenario anymore
If they hit you over cover, it’s broken
if i could reset my brain on what comes to WoTB and someone gave me a AX and told me all i had to do was find a hill and hide my low plate id have like 60 wr ngl
Yeah because it’s a braindead tank
I love when kids call my 252U as "BrOkEn"
252U is basically the soviet T26E4. Armor only good against ppl who cant aim lol
Yes it IS broken in a few ocasions
But not many
252u just takes troll armor and puts it all around the tank and maximizes troll armor
252u drawback is the poor gun and less mobility
and a huge low plate
I've found that flanking and aiming works very well against the 252u
just now? It seems that half of the ppl here havent found that out. Specially that guy that keeps sarcastic spamming "Buff 252u" like bruh
This game its super,i love it, but i have feel that WG tell me : this game its lost, delete it! when i lose because players like this
make bots leagues to cant they lern to play
I wish I could make a compilation of all the ridiculous snapshots I have hit in my 252u
@narrow isle please ask yourself "are you good enough to warrant this much complaining" first
I lowkey just gave up on Ratings. Way too lazy for the Plat camo lmao
nah bruh I did calibration battles, got myself in 2.5k after 10 bad battles, thought "maybe I'll go for 4k", played around 5 more battles or something, and I'm still at 2.5k and don't feel like doing a last minute grind
the MM complaints are insane why do i rarely see any actually good players complain ? i dont see 3very complain or any of those people high up in the leaderboard only people like conqistadorgt that run around with 50% something Wr that cant seem to figure out that crying and blaming team wont help and that they by blaming teams wont get better
just compared 2 people that do complain a lot with 2 people that dont complain at all about how bad MM is, the two people that dont complain have a way higher rating and better stats overall so maybe its just a you problem and that you go in there and expect to have the same Wr as in randoms
I like what ABC said about the experimentation. WG can just do it for a single season or two, the impact won't be very big and WG can get feedback on it quickly. As of right now, the only "balanced" tier for ratings is t10, I think it's best that WG keep ratings restricted to t10 only or t9/10 just for the sake of keeping premiums out of it. This turns your tech tree tanks into good credit grinders so you have the option to play in ratings for rating + creds + xp in a tech tree, or play a premium in Random battles or whatever game mode is open. Another big part of it is each player's personal skill level. You can't blame others for your overextension or bad positioning. Continuing to do so will only make a fool out of yourself. There's a reason why Open Communication exists, for you to ask away and get tips on how to win.
The 'one tier rating' has been made. The only result were complaints about tier 10 now being invaded by the bad players that were at tier 8 before.
Collectible/premium tanks at all tiers are now available for gold.
The only way is to have more people playing to reduce the rating span in one game and... notice that 4k rating and above gather a few % of the playerbase only. There will always be mixing of low rating players with high rating players.
@fallen mortar Dunning Kruger effect
yep that fits it pretty well
It is working both ways. I assume this was implied here.
I see there’s a trend to suicide in water. Wargaming should block this possibility
The T26E4 can work in ratings, I came top in this match although it may have helped that a T29 came at me 🤣
oh yeah
Nice work!
Nice MM having 2.8k ratings players in my team , broken MM
You kinda deserve it for spamming broken tanks, but yeah. Some matches are stupidly messed up
Why would he ''deserve'' it? He play the tank he likes, and if we want to get high on the leaderboard, we will pick thew best tank we have, logically
You can get to the top without spamming broken tanks, if you can't get to the top without abusing op tanks then it says a lot about you.
Just spam heavies instead 😎
And if you spam rockets, I hate you
Why
What's with all the low 50%ers trying to lead a team of meds to city on port bay or heavy side fort despair lmao
Welcome to Blitz.
Or the 3 heavies that try to flank in Faust
People always get mad at me when I put pressure on the cap in fort despair using 252u and hulldown using the brick walls, they always say “useless 252u” “report 252u”
The one guy who calls out town on middleburg, no one follows him and he dies alone
Worst thing is when team splits and the heavies go one way and the meds and lights get killed first 2 minutes
A lot of heavies just go in the direction they spawned facing.
Know why? Braindeads
For most of this season players haven't been too bad and gave actually realised that when their rating is 500 below the teams they should be quiet but today seems to be special...
Some noobs even make the excuse that their tank is too slow
Is it more useful being slow and alone in a 1v5 or being slow and late to a 7v7 🤔
It only takes 10s to turn and reaccelerate
it takes 10 seconds to do the action but it takes 300% of their brainpower too, I mean if they gotta turn and reaccelerate, then how are they gonna yell at their team for leaving them
they'll either be too tired to yell at their team or they'll realize by going with their team, they don't really have that many excuses for dying
who play weth me
@median wagon so what are u playing in ratings obj252u , yes that s not op u blame others for spamming op tank and u play op tanks aswell perfect 🤦
Do you seriously think object is op?
take and is6 vs obj and u will have same opinion
252u has a massive lower plate, it's just annoying to deal with because it gets dumb bounces all over the side and sometimes the rear, the gun handling is bad, it's not exactly OP
comparing IS-6 and 252u is like comparing T-62A and 140 and then coming to the conclusion that since T-62A is better it's an OP tank
252u is not op. It is just performing better than any other tier 8 heavy...blitzstars. Oh, and techtree were included in the list, lol.
How to carry in silver which tanks are good for that.i mean
depends on the tier
8
Tiger 2, VK100, Obj.252, or any tank in the top 10 on that list above
(Not the E75 TS however)
Well I have to chose king tiger panther 2 st Emil idn panzer
probably tiger 2 or panther 2
@fossil spear play tiger 2 if u are free to play player
I am free to play
and spam battle to win points
Whit panter 2 it is also good but I need to try hard
I think playing 8 is better play 9-10 for rating
u will face op tank's in tire 8 so u need to play op tank to make it more fair for u and only t8 op f2p havie for me is tiger 2
if u know how to use it meds will have hard times to pen u even with premium but u need to use it well to make it perform
Hmm
are u new in game
@alpine sand stop talking like a jit bro with these spaces
Well at least have good gun.i ahve my ac for 5 year but play whit big stops and I go for all the trees big mistake
Now I am focusing on German line
I also have p 44 pantera. But she is hard to pull of
@fossil spear okeay gl in ratings 😀
pantera p44 is pretty good
Well
VK 100 was balanced before when it had 1.5k hp
No, play it and you’ll understand. Such a large lower plate, poorer mobility than other counterparts and a trash gun
maybe I'm trippin but I've never heard of a "racioala"
.
@median wagon idk if you pro or bad player, but calling obj252u not good for me is sad
Obviously bad player, 30wr only so stop bullying me
30 wr is just rookie numbers, hit 20% wr and I'll let you join the clan
oh please I beg
the 252u’s lower plate is really enormous, and about ~165-170mm thick, which means any tank but a few low pen T7s will be able to go through easily. The gun is pretty bad, having low dpm and bad accuracy (similar to the IS-5). It’s also a lot more sluggish than most other IS clones. Bad players just think it’s op because it has 420 alpha and when they shoot the spaced armor on the sides it bounces. @alpine sand
Also it’s quite hilarious calling me a hypocrite for using 252u when you spammed T92 nearly 300 times
@desert kite well its you opinion
um it's not opinions, it's literally the tank stats
precisely
@median wagon u can read it again i did't call you hypocrite !!
You inferred that
like if ur either A: failing at playing the 252, or B: struggling against the 252 because you don’t know how to load gold, and the enemy 252 is good, you have a problem
I barely ever load gold at 252u’s though. as soon as the lower plate is showing just use AP. for the sides just shoot the drive wheel when it angles, the sides below the tracks are only 100mm thick. if facehugging or in any mid-close range fight, shoot the cupolas.
People confuse a tank being op with a tank that is unkillable. The 252u is op cause it out preforms pretty much every other tier 8 is clone. A bot in a 252u will still be a bot though so if you are skilled you should still be fine.
so inferring from this guy’s past msgs, he seems to play the Tiger 2? You do realise a tiger 2 can just look down onto the cupolas of a 252, and has more than enough pen to go through the LP
252u isn’t even the best clone. WZ 112 2 is
I said pretty much every one, whether it’s first idk. It’s 1st on blitz stars though for heavys
WZ 112 2 is way better, also which is more popular than the other? 252u, so ofc it has better charts
prob because people don’t know how to deal with getting rushed by em
It doesn’t matter to my point
WZ 112 2 is too underrated
252u is not op. It is just performing better than any other tier 8 heavy...blitzstars. Oh, and techtree were included in the list, lol.
@next gull thats your own stats, if you such in tech trees thats your fault isnt it
and just about 50% isnt anything to be happy about tbf
At least it isn’t 40
Wz 112 2 isn’t that common so it isn’t as big of an issu, 252u is super common
Less people encounter wz 112 2, so they have more struggles against it
like most of the player base now know how to counter Tiger 2, why not the same with 252?
ofc it’s a lot more common, it’s russian and was pretty cheap last time the tank hit the stores
The amazing point of WZ 112 2 is it’s reverse speed, 20km/h is the top for any IS clone, meaning you can reverse fast in a facehug and quickly shoot weakspots
@copper mauve 252u is a lot less common than tiger 2, it’s also very troll, and if a good player is using it and sidescraping it’s kinda hard to counter, it’s not as simple as load gold
kinda hard to counter only if you let em get there
You said the player base, the avg player will let them get there
Average wr is like 48
The t54e2 scares me
we all have a fear
It’s literally an e5 at tier 8. Anyone can tell it’s gonna be broken
obj252u sucks
I like the m6 exp
Amazin how i reached top 30 and after that all noob teams where we are 7 vs 4 and they wait unitl the enemy team flank us this is just great
Lost more than 100 points also thanks to the horrible Points system, you do an excellent battle and u win 4 but u lose and you lose more
Last day and all bots come to just suck
dude chill we all make questionable plays and ive seen you make some too 😄
jaja
xixi
@mossy badger lol yeah i do those plays when im just tired of this joke players when a noob goes alone insteead of following the team
stop playing tier 8 then 🤔
Ive played tier 8, 9 and 10 all day... droped from 5.530 to 5.330
Now i only have tomorrow to go up again but less hours
chill breh u have like 1400 battles
Well i need to get my points back thanks to bots
imagine playing THAT much over.....over what tho
Like just finished a battle where my 6 teammates were against 3 heavies and they lost whhy do i have to get these bots
Wanted to win more parts now thanks to MM i will win 5 for sure what a joke
why were you the only person who died 🤔
Nono, i was alive
Just take a break
Not worth breaking yourself over a game
^
I wish i could take a break but tomorrow season ends and i wanted to get more thn just 5 parts but well
i uninstalled cuz i finished the event and IS-6F is guaranteed for me anyways 🤷♂️
I’ll just play more ratings once all the is6 f hype if gone
but then it'll be a boring ez pz game mode again
IS-6 grind was sweaty but it was competitive half the time
but when there's no rewards I placed like 19th by playing 10 minutes everyday or something it shouldn't be that easy
that’s the strat
@blissful portal why sometime I see afk at start of battles
@hazy bronze Bad connection i have
@blissful portal that make sense now because sometime your like 2-3 your afk while battle is going on
I know i have to restart game quickly to get in asap
Honestly I just span 252u
And then whatever other tank I want the camo on. I usually drop out of 4k when doing this so then I run 252u again. Boring stuff
I mean it's boring cause u can only progress with op tanks
@crimson goblet of course not, those are not my own stats.
I have indicated what the sources were.
I know it takes more time than just leaving a quick aggressive comment, but you can go check yourself (what you obviously did not do). Then we can discuss real data.
You might even go to Jylpah's website and find out that 252u is the second best performing tank (after kv220t).
Sorry if I am not complaining that I am at 2.5k rating because of my MM or saying how easy it is to reach 5k in the spc...
When will we get parts for Fearless?
Never
Why ... the hell... are you playing...tier 7?
thats wha i asked myself too
For birthdays so avg tier doesnt go below 10
well i dont think stevo is doing it because of that
@sonic sedge One last time, this channel is not for nonstop crying about your team mates. If you have got nothing to say, refrain from posting
I think stevo is a secret unicum just trolling us all
Then you haven't seen him in battle lmao
I have lol. I played ratings once, he was on my team driving a sheridan. He literally just said ‘I am bad’ at the start of the battle and then we won. I really wish I screenshotted that message
well look him up on Blitzstars
I have. 3000 average damage and 80% winrate
@muted shuttle I wasn’t ‘crying’ about ‘my’ team mates...Also I asked this question over a week ago but asking something reasonable seems to gets ignored! Thanks
@sonic sedge Yes you were. Your only posts are crying how bad your team is, steamrolls over again and again and again. How come you are so good but still in the gold league?
and the question? Also EVERY time I get to near 4k (& I’ve seen someone else post the same) I get rubbish ‘team mates’ & the points drop!
I highly doubt any changes will be made
Which is why it’s being ignored.
Wg had a rating system where losing made you lose points no matter how you did and winning made you win points. Oddly enough people were not happy of losing points BuT i CaUsEd 6K dMg atleast that system was about teamplay since the only thing that mattered was that win.
Now we have a system that gives you points by what you did in the battlefield. You lose less points or even gain points in a loss by just farming. After all this game is still about winning and therefore winning still affects the most to the battle results and rating points. Of course teamplay still helps you to win but you can die by playing for team early spots, sharing hp, risky caps, etc. Just farming and focusing to staying alive till the end of the game makes you lose only a few points if not losing at all. The BuT i CaUsEd 6K dMg seems to be a reason why one should earn more points than the first one in the enemy team? No. You should be glad you are playing ratings during the time of actual individual rating where you affect the points the most 6k loss doesnt make you lose 20 points, same as a 0dmg loss did.
@sonic sedge There is hardly any developer that could answer you, and they probably would not even do that if they knew something
@restive dawn Sometimes you can’t do any of that if you’re fighting more powerful opponents though & you’re the lower tier in a slow heavy!
@muted shuttle ok
This went better, on a different map, highest score with the lower tier.
@sonic sedge But what can change, only the tank being given away and maybe potentially the system of distributing points so
@muted shuttle yeah maybe the points distribution should be more even over both sides, as after all these are individual players thrown together in a 7 a side ‘team’, sometimes the team works as a whole but on occasions it doesn’t. Maybe the players that do actually try hard on either side should be rewarded on a descending scale because I’m sure a lot of players feel robbed when they do actually try hard get in the top 3 of the losing side but their points drop through no fault of their own!
Just an idea but would be a fairer system.
I do not know how fairer it coul be (or not). Eventually, you can change the name of the ratings, it is just a relative scale where all players are on the same footing. The 2% in the top range will still be there, the average player will still be average.
I will say this once again. WoTs ranked system is great because it includes both teamwork and own performance.
@pine falcon spitting facts
So what’s with ratings today? 4K+ battles, wins in all types of tanks, actual teamwork, almost 300 points in a couple of hours. Sure there are those that still calibrate and do 0 damage as top tier but those are exceptions. Exactly how ratings should be. Why isn’t it always like this? I’m really interested what actually changed from yesterday till today.
When will rating battles end?
Today
Does it always end in the last day of the month?
Yeah
Reached 5k in 3 days:D
I really thought that I won't make it because I calibrated 2 days ago, but it was pretty easy
How much rn
Few points over 5k. I think I'll leave it here and will try to get to 6k next month
@bleak crest you still don't understand that matchmaking is still random... sometimes you get loss streaks, sometimes you get win streaks. You can't predict such things
The key is to not get frustrated during the loss streaks. Take a break, play a different tank etc
Anger and frustration can lead you to making even bigger mistakes in games
And to spam meta tanks
guys did you know that if you reload the leaderboard page, for 1 frame it shows this
Any idea when I will receive the camoes on my tanks?
@autumn mulch When the season is over. In other words - tomorrow
but u get the parts for fearless in a week i think
Isn’t it ending tonight?
It has already ended for us.
it is ending at midnight
It’s a pity when even in RB there are trolling players who are busy only with blocking and team killing 😡
Report them and get them a temporary battle ban, if they receive numerous reports then they could be permanently banned
I wonder how such a player has 65% WR and 4092 rating points
Reroll possibly
Already reported him
Through wg ticket?
Yep, I hope Temporary lasts longer
15 parts for me this season
40 for me (:
Are you able to get IS-6?
no I will need 50 more parts
I need 45 more parts
I managed to get it
I got 60 parts in the season before with 6k Rating and now another 40 parts with again 6k Rating
Won’t be a rare tank in 5 months I reckon
Do you think they will continue giving parts for playing rating?
Yes, it’s only been 2 seasons
I think one more season with less potential to get IS-6 Fearless would be okay, not more
Only because you got it?
2 seasons is way too short
I could also say now only because you dont got it
A wg staff member said there will be enough seasons
But it shouldnt become a tank you see every second battle in T8
Ah, so if you slack to at least 5k all the upcoming seasons, you’d eventually get it at the last season
ah ok, and so it will become what i just described
Eventually something will replace the IS-6 fearless rarity
What do you reckon it’d be?
A few Players get the tank and thats it
Rarity of tank still going be rare because it take ages for average player to get the tank
average players shouldnt get it
most likely once they get tank then most not going play for maybe 100 battles than that it
I mean, average players already have it
Mainly, ATGM and broken tank spam
The leaderboard players are purely average sometimes
the average players has 49,9999% WR
Also don’t worry too much about IS-6 Fearless’ rarity, a ton of people gave up in the first season
@junior flame it going while before is 6 fearless becomes on common tank for na at least
I doubt is 6 fearless going least then more than 1 year or 2
See why ratings system is flawed when an average player tops the leaderboard
Soon enough is6f wont be sought after for its rarity
Only because its a premium
Also that means more and more worse players (players that are only slightly above avg/above avg) will have a chance to get it a lot easier
5SpecialVibes is not a average player, he maybe just has not so good alltime stats
900 battles in T92
”skill”
Oh yes, clap clap. Giving rewards to an artillery abuser
(I’m so sorry if you’re reading this 5Special, but you deserve smoke for playing that tank)
you shouldn’t be sorry
judging everyone for playing rocket tanks or not is also not the solution of people getting high rating
Judging people who play rocket tanks is fine
I reached 6k with playing sheridan 4 times or so, didnt played t92 if you think
At least you didnt spam it
It’s not the case for all top players, but seriously? 900 matches
Not matter what tier people will spam op tank depending on tier i do it just make easier overall I doubt any would like play Pershing or t28 to get high rating every one at top play very powerful tanks
Yeah, because they’re literally so desperate
And its also not like you play rocket tanks and there are non on the other team
like wow it’s just a tier 8 premium that has cool name such wow
T92 is still broken I think, even after its third nerf
“I think”
It’s a fact.
Some people don’t think T92 is broken, idk why
makes sense how a light tank can sidescrape right?
It has gun handling even better than the Sheridan for some stupid reason, also I hate how small the thing is so it’s really hard to hit
It would broken still but now that vicker cr comes to in game both counter each other
Vickers’s CR doesn’t bomb people behind cover, there’s a difference
and hey, most of the time in rating battles, people get covered by allies, so you can’t really rush and use HE pen
Ah yes balance broken tanks by bringing more broken tanks into the game
The T92’s turret also gets BS turret bounces too, it has tons of weird angles and is twice as thick as the T49’s turret
No matter how nerfed the T92 is, it will always be OP if it has rockets
and if the rockets do 30 damage?
If it still hits you from behind cover then yes
30 damage every 15 seconds you think is op? and not every rockets hits / pen you
it’s a 152mm caliber gun so it won’t be as low as 30, but hitting anything behind cover is still OP
this game is arcade not realism
Instead of a high pen HEAT, they could make a HE atgm instead(better choice is no ATGMs)
still OP then hm?
More balanced than HEAT atgm
They wont nerf ATGM much more
bruh honestly I still dislike ATGM but it isn't as bad as when it first came out
Lol, or they should make the tank ATGM only, so it’s not very versatile
making it atgm only would really ruin the tank (which isn't the problem) and just ruin everyone else's day when all they do is spam rockets
they could remove the spaced armor so it is easy pen with he also on the turret (but the tank still looks the same)
And remove T92’s sidescraping ability, and increase its size
it cant
Oh you sure? That side is even hard to pen with HE flat
Make the E1 taller, that would lessen the angles on the front and make it bigger
the tank has a turret and no
The tank cant sidescrape without getting penned on the turret
At least you won’t have to expose as much
and why the hell would anyone sidescrape with the tank
The T92E1 is so small and that’s my main problem with it, it’s extremely difficult to hit when it’s moving, and when you hit? Ricochet off the front hull or absorbed by tracks
I dont have that problem
I just gravely hate this tank, it’s only ran by people who want free wins and no skill
not only
I’m so relived then the enemy T92 is dead, most specially when I kill it
sounds a little bit like weird when you describe that
Oh fair enough, I guess you don’t have the same struggles as I do
Probably because I run tier 8 as my main tier
ok then i am out now, need to concentrate more on what i am doing right now
I was 1 battle from plat then I find the season just ended after my battle
isn't there a cash compensation if I had the camo on a tank alredy from a previous ratings month and got it again this month
yes read the news next time
check my server
When will we get the parts for Fearless?
Ehm yo I logged in, received the camo’s and avatar but didn’t get any is6 fearless parts. Are these gonna be handed out later or is there something else?
They're given out when the next season starts
At least that was the case last time
when wil i get my is6 fearless WG?
anyone knows?
@scenic bridge In like a day or two usually
smh I was 33rd place early on before having a -600 point loosing streak bc of bot teams swarming for bday event
@scenic bridge i literally just said it the post above, most likely you’ll receive the parts when the next ratings season starts, if it is going to be the same as last time
im excited tbh for the is6
How many players on avg consistently finish on diamond??
Above 2
So what’s with ratings today? 4K+ battles, wins in all types of tanks, actual teamwork, almost 300 points in a couple of hours. Sure there are those that still calibrate and do 0 damage as top tier but those are exceptions. Exactly how ratings should be. Why isn’t it always like this? I’m really interested what actually changed from yesterday till today.
@bleak crest Yeah I got a random winning streak outta no where and recovered 300+ points
Also I really really dont believe a word about ranked MM being random considering you're at the mercy of peak and off hours. Even Rolling speculated that certain times of day affects ur wins/losses. This season was probably extremely bad because of players coming back for bday event worsening the extremes on the spectrum (worst and best players active) instead of a bell curve of avg players
Ranked MM is great only if the seeding isnt put off tbh
What I noticed is the current system defo rewards spotting and high damage flat out which is perfectly why anyone with a brain and an atgm can just climb easier. You gain more moving around and pumping out dpm vs Camping and farming
Trapmelon for example last season straight up said he'd gas pedal opposite of where the team was going and farm as much as possible in a T-22. Where did that get him? 7K
and the question? Also EVERY time I get to near 4k (& I’ve seen someone else post the same) I get rubbish ‘team mates’ & the points drop!
@sonic sedge The final 100 before a new league is always the hardest
Yeah, that’s what I’ve noticed too. All of a sudden things dramatically change in and around those areas.
so because you only menaged to get one hit an finish with lowest dmg your team was bad ? and sure there are peek times where more good players are online and there are times that less good people are online and it took you so long to notice that ? the guy above you is actually really good but it seems like he had a bad battle the MMker doenst give you worse teams just because you get to a certain rating
@rose path Riddle me this...Isn’t it strange then that I was in a battle using the Foch (tier9) in a tier 9-10 battle, not sniping from one position, I was also mixed up with 4-5k calibrated players where I was the lowest @3.6 ish and I got THE highest score out of everyone.!
wow should we bring up the screens where you sucked ? once more ? there is plenty
@fallen mortar Clearly my point went over your head if thats what you were looking at and not the fact there are more or less 4 players on the team who are silver, it was to prove that no matter how high up the leaderboards you are theres no getting away from the lowest end of the spectrum
The calibration point is more like 2800. Obviously it does not change his reasonning. Just the perspective of what an average player is.
This was the worst player I ever had on my team in season being well above 4.5K
And I was VERY lucky to recover from this
@rose path let me quickly proove you wrong you are just way to low in terms of rating points to meet the good players https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/703324004223811694/727263863845945434/Screenshot_20200629-2246002.png?width=912&height=436
@fallen mortar I see those fellas regularly at peak hours
Hell I probably have come across you at some point considering I was 33rd on scoreboard early on before dipping down
oh so it is possible to escape from low rating battles most of the time so what was your point saying you cant escape your seemingly permanent 2,8k rating players
@fallen mortar I never said it was impossible, I said there isnt getting away which I meant depend on the time of day and where you're at you'll have those kind of teams at some point more than once
And its almost always during peak hours which Id suspect this amplified because of everyone coming back for bday grind
you dropped in the lower plate so yeah youll meet 2,8k players that happens and no i dont think youve met me i only did like 50 battles in ranked this season and just went for the 4k because i didnt really care to much 😅
@fallen mortar I've seen ur friends tho 😂
TheJuicyDude and the other dudes, what clan is that
so other LXN players or what do you mean and well yes they played but i didnt bother
Yes I played
I want my parts for Fearless ;-;
@scenic bridge lol wut ik u gonna get it it's sad to see now no skill battle spammers are starting to get it
u mean i have no skills?
Who knows :)
Lol he deleted that message
The ‘top’ EU player spammed T92 for 900 matches
well by spamming i meant that many of the people who are my friends asked me "WHERE IS YOUR IS6 FEARLESS?"
and this is why im tired of answering them
You have friends?
Oh i thought account sharing
Sry bro
@cinder vault its okay
i will clarify one more thing that, i didnt spam any OP tanks but
i agree with @undone vortex that i have spammed ratings this entire June month. but this does not mean that i am a NO SKILL PLAYER
Clearly vickers tier9 and WT isnt op🙃
Ye playing op tanks + salting his team every game :)
Well to get to the top you still need some skill
It's currently impossible to get to the very top without skill because decent players spam battles as well, but getting to the top isn't a sign of skill.
That isn't saying that people at the top aren't skillful ofc, just saying that rating isn't an indicator of skill
It’s more of who has more broken tanks and more spare time
@cinder vault you think that wt auf pz iv is OP?
ok then i also agree.
but i didnt spam any toxic tanks like t22 medium or smasher or wz120 1g ft
all i used was tech tree tanks
Ye clear tier8 bully
That Thing wont get spotted
Tier9 battle spammers favourite tank before t92
It has stupid gun handling for a 152mm too
Super Pershing or M6 EXP? Debating on which on I should buy for ratings.
none
More likely Chrysler but none of them is too good choice
Using a super pershing in ratings is a debatable choice
using super pershing in anything except mad games is a debatable choice really
Exactly
Super pershing actually got nerfed in mad games
@median wagon yeah, but we still don't know how big the nerf was or what exactly it was
Imagine balancing mad games
IMO who cares. I dont even have it and I would love if they made it even more crazy good Bc of the memes that would come of it lol
Its called mad games for a reason, why do u need to balance that mode
Does anybody know what happens if U get a camo in platinum or diamond rating at the end of the season, and the most played tank can't install a camo (for xample T34 Independence, M60 or T34-85 Rudy) ? Will the ratings camo then disappear for the corresponding tier, do you get a compensation for it as if you already had it, or do you get a certificate for it to use on any tank of the tier?
@vivid pewter You get credit compensation and that's it, I'm not entirely sure how much but I guess it's equal to unlocking a rare camo for credits
Okay, thanks
Will we ever get the parts?
Jesus Christ people can’t wait
If the Game wasnt from Wargaming i would have got the parts yesterday
Maybe they are trying it right now but they take so long to not accidentally sell the tank in the store
They said “parts will be awarded in early July”
If the game wasn’t from wargaming then this game wouldn’t exist, smh
Part come at the start of the next season, 3 days isn't going to kill you
And I've just got my parts now anyway 🤷♀️
Only 10 more to go...
eyyyy
@ember gulch noice, now stop grinding rating so the rest of us can get some parts :))
aight I'll let u 😉
Smh imagine not getting it first season
@ember gulch what!
they gave it on EU already?
yep
me and my other 2 clanmates already got it
I’ve got 55 parts total, 45 to go
you either collect parts of it doing a lot of ranked or you no life for a season and reach the top something and get it instantly
@cerulean totem Getting into Diamond League is supposed to be the easy part
All u have to do to get into diamond is be gud at the game or play 1k battles
how about don't play ratings problem solved
I’m just not gonna turn this in and probably forget it’s here
What tanks you spammed this time
Maus, M103, Type 59
neat
nothing broken nice
nothing ridiculously broken anyways.
More like I don’t have any broken tanks
I mean the Maus is **pretty **good
Smh imagine not getting it first season
Imagine not getting it 3 years ago
Another month of absolutely laughable prizes in ratings. 5/100 parts of IS-6 Useless for climbing into diamond. LOL
Of course the gold given to top-10 is just as minimal too.
imagine spending hours grinding ratings battle #NoLives lmao
Imagine spamming rockets in ratings
@subtle phoenix bruh I really can’t put up with it
Day 4 of 0 blitz I intend to keep it at least until day69
Imagine spamming rockets in ratings
@median wagon lmao why not spam rockets? might as well use them if they're in the game
Top 1 EU last season, how many T92 matches? 900, skills
If 99% of the ratings players only get to a high rank because of rockets, you know there’s a clear issue
Which is why I quit ratings and blitz for the time being
@median wagon then again it’s one of the only counters to 252u and AX spam for t8-9 if u can’t join em
252u spam isn’t too bad, but AX spam is soo bad
The OP rating tanks are AX, Mk1 defender and progetto
I mean I can kinda hang with T32 but dam if I got my hands on those 😩😩😩😩
seen them appear in rating more than encounter
What do you expect, people are really desperate for the fearless
@mossy badger you quit blitz?
He’s taking a break.
Also are the rating camos for July the same as they were before.
Idk camo names haha
yes
They’ve been the same this whole year
@subtle phoenix yessir I have so much time now I literally don’t know what to do with it sometimes
oh cool with this new season I can accumulate 5 more certificate, putting me to 15/100, by 2023 i will be able to get the fearless 😄 ahahahha
why
oh cool with this new season I can accumulate 5 more certificate, putting me to 15/100, by 2023 i will be able to get the fearless 😄 ahahahha
LMAOOO 😂
Wtf, is7 fearless? What’s that?
its a joke
pretty sure
Not very funny from ribble🤷♂️
fearless in terms of yoloing into the enemy team without regrets
He's fearlessly stupid.
fearless nonetheless
Wg gonna make it better than is7 and sell it as a prem, just like AX
@warped rain he usually isnt very funny lmaooo
The joke is pretty funny for me.
Where can I find an centurion Action X
HOLAA
@mossy badger fix your beaver errors
bruv wym
Use this extra time to fix your beavers
nah nah nah theyve been all good
Hmm, when was the last time you were able to play a full crucible match
i played IB with noodles
Who's noodles
dr noodles --> pervical or whatever --> something something --> diogenes
Oh that mans
d2 gang
a man of culture i see
wat
a non-man of culture i see
shieeeeeeeet
indeed
ratings should be tech tree only; it'll not only get rid of the 9 yr olds that spend money to buy premium tanks but it also gives a fair chance for everyone without pay to win shenanigans (i.e t22, action x, etc.)
Then tier 8 will become a complete tiger 2 fest, tier 9 will become a T92/WT/ Vickers spam, tier 10 will pretty much remain the same.
but at least everyone can grind to those tanks, but not everyone can buy premiums
Tiger 2, VK 100 spam for tier 8
if people get mad enough about it then they would grind to get those tanks
usually those tanks are in the background because you have the object 252u and the action x destroying tier 8
besides, like i said the wallet warriors wont get an advantage to use said tanks
@sturdy needle making it only tech tree will make it more accesible but it will completely kill the almost non existent variety of tanks in rating.
Imagine thinking 252u is OP
the variety of tanks was already nonexistent with premium tanks being overused
Imagine thinking 252u is OP
@median wagon it is in some cases, mostly for noob killing, but a pro player would know how to kill it
It’s only effective against people who can’t aim
252u's gun can't hit anything while moving. But in hulldown, he's a killing machine... A SLOW killing machine
what about the action x then?
Broken in hulldown
i had plenty of games in which there was always at least 1 or 2 action x's in the game or on each team
Good in hulldown. Troll turret, and a fast, and accuracy gun
WG gave it a better gun than Caernarvon
252u aint op?
Sorry i’ve been mislead i thought it was
It’s not
we're getting off topic, back to R_sevik's thread
@sturdy needle making it only tech tree will make it more accesible but it will completely kill the almost non existent variety of tanks in rating.
Like a penetrable lower plate and a russian gun gives enough reasons why it is not op
Balanced i would say the first non-premium tank is vk100 at 51wr as 28th on that list
That is from players with 45-55wr if they get it that high are they just lucky?
Idk if op is the right word but there’s not a single tech tree heavy that’s better
It also doesn’t help that you can actually afford to angle the tank. The pike nose is so ridiculously sharp that you can side scrape up close and personal without much worry
Either that or wiggle because anybody with half a brain would know how to moderately negate their weak spots.
what are some good tanks, by tier, to run in rating?
Tech tree:
I don’t really recommend much for tier 7
Tier 8: VK 100.01P, T32
Tier 9: Waffle
Tier 10: E5, IS-4, Maus, just any comp tier 10
VK 100 is OP at this state
Lol
thanks
I feel that the Tier 9 section could use more heavies... and add the T92
Tier 9 heavies have stupid HP
Has rating started? Too lazy to check in game
Yes@pine falcon
Tier 9 t54 is OP ??
Medium gold this time
This is what I like 🤣
Bruh my initial rating is 2744... i dont deserve this platinum avatar
Oh man, what happened?
Mine was around 3300 calibration
Is it possible to get to diamonds as soon as the ten calibration matches are done ?
?
Was in a rush. Sorry. Met some1 with 4.9k points
I don’t think so
Its probably possible but you need to have absolutely amazing carries for 10 battles straight
Yeah when I saw the dudw with 4.9k, it was also like within 2hours after the ratings games were allowed. Seems like he started off good with near 4.9k ratings
For superunis it's not too difficult to calibrate low 4ks so 4.5k with a bit of luck isn't out if the question, and from there it's not far at all to 4.9k 🤷♀️
Calibration is all luck, seen 40%ers cali in plat and pro tourney players cali in silver/low gold
yeah last season I was lucky af, game put me at 4k rating after calibrations
@warm charm I have never seen a 40%er calibrate in plat and I have never seen a pro calibrate lower than about 3.5k unless they were trying to lose, but again playing ratings isn't the same style as tournaments or random games.
Prob different server, super unis in NA get shafted all the time
GGs
Gold is so damn terrible, soo many 40wr for some reason today
I made 1k+ points in a single day in that league, teams are horrific but at least it shouldnt be any bother getting out of it
@warm charm I have never seen a 40%er calibrate in plat and I have never seen a pro calibrate lower than about 3.5k unless they were trying to lose, but again playing ratings isn't the same style as tournaments or random games.
@agile sphinx I calibrated silver for the past two seasons and finished above diamond by the end of them
Im really lucky to calibrate gold 3.1k
Is it possible to get to diamonds as soon as the ten calibration matches are done ?
@ornate spoke Saw someone calib 3.5k and got diamond literally day 1 of season with only about 100+ battles
One good match
I still have an issue with the awarded ratings points though, if you score THE second highest out of both sides (all players) but lose, why should your points STILL go down!
because maybe you didnt do enough
You only lost 8. For gold, that’s really good
I lost like 30 in a gold steamroll
You can gain points even during a loss if you do well enough, had it a couple times. Think they're all valiant efforts
I calibrated at 3775. Not great, but still acceptable
@sonic sedge Yeah, you dont even need valiant effort
@agile sphinx I calibrated silver for the past two seasons and finished above diamond by the end of them
@rose path Finishing in diamond literally means you can spam battles it doesn't mean you are good, and 40%er can get to diamond
@agile sphinx You're implying that people spam battles to get diamond
I've yet to see someone who genuinely has 40% and has diamond but that doesnt mean I dont see people with that wr and is in a lower league in my mm
Theres a few people last season that calibrated gold and got diamond in the same day with only ~100 battles so that >spam battles argument isnt so sound
Also, you're right though that diamond != pro
@rose path If you calibrate in silver then you only get to 5k by spamming games. With the points system we have, even if you have a 40% WR in ratings you still go up points. Getting to 5k isn't an indication of skill in the slightest, getting to the top ranks isn't either because what separates people is literally battle count
Theres a different between spamming to get diamond and spamming for leaderboard but I doubt that theres barely any 40%er that make/finish diamond anyways
But yeah, battle count wins leaderboard. Worst ive seen was 3k+ battles just to get into 6k+
Again, I highly doubt anyone that bad can even make it past platinum anyways
Well as we see with stevo, he spams battles he is 50+ wr but still can't get over 4k so just spamming battles isn't really a strategy. @agile sphinx
Reminder of this fella flank farming in a T-22 😂
@rose path and whats wrong with that? Flanking nda outputting damage are the two basic components in the game. Btw trapmelon did reach 7k sooo
It's definitely possible, I've seen quite a few 40%ers over 5k and on bad days with around 45% WR over 5k rating I still gain points so 40% at 3-4k is easy. It's literally impossible to not go up unless you are yoloing every game
How do you play 3 k ratings games in a single season? Shows how brainless this game mode is, you can literally no life spam whatever OP tank you have and still get the top prize regardless of how well you did
@wooden thorn it was during spring season meaning he had 60 days
@pine falcon Because it confirms Rolling's speculation that Ratings is all about damage, I asked trap himself and he straight up told me to just go heavy route when no ones therw and farm 😂
I though the fact that damage in rating is the most important skill was common sense...
Thats why people meds and lights... because they have reliable damage output and still have the flexibility to get around the map
Who’s rating is that
@pine falcon That's exactly why leaderboard is full of atgms rn, high spotting + high alpha mutually inclusive
@median wagon Trapmelon from LOCA two seasons ago
Ah he went to 7k
Nice
Nice
day 7 of no blitz haha yes
Didnt ribble say anyone who can top diamond has "enough time" to build parts for one?
He did
i built one last season yes
every single season I calibrate 200 less than the previous season, see you guys when I hit 2.3k lmao
Statistically day 0 is always the worst time to calibrate
Hell the first few days but if you want leaderboard you have to nolife from day 1
Fearless parts attracted the noobs into rating
fearless made it more competitive tho
in a good and bad way
--> no life grind but some games are more dynamic
That one person who asked if fearless was better than is3 😂 💀
If ur asking that question GL even getting the tank xDDDD
xDdDdDdD
WG till when only campers with rockets will win rating ?
Huh
That is so sad
I was gonna take care of my anger issues by driving ds in ratings this season
why can't we play rankeds during night?
I am spamming my WZ120gft =))
Replace rating by a fun mode please.
Constant uprising
Isnt rating one then? You can do whatever ya wanna and not gonna affect your stats
^^^ I had a Vickers telling us a how Constantinople is a better name than Istanbul ...
^^^ I had a Vickers telling us a how Constantinople is a better name than Istanbul ...
@pine falcon That's nobody's business but the Turks...
is it me or is ratings so much easier this season. Or it's probably because stb is so good.
So I try to win and do top damage but get point deducted then I stay afk and get points with 0 damage. Recalibration makes so much sense since it’s exactly like random... why even split the MM queue if the game mode is the same?
@hot portal his English was perfect therefore I think he was a native speaker and most definitely not a turk
Hmm nearly posted about the rubbish m*****g & a screen shot but this is fight club, no ones allowed to mention fight club or how unfair it is sometimes! 😂
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It's because you refuse to learn from what we tell you. Ratings system prioritizes wins over everything else. You could afk and still gain 10 points from a win. You might go on some losing streaks, but the general rule is the more ratings you play, the higher your rating. Gaining points on a loss is highly unlikely and the best you could hope for is a -5 or a 0
i disagree with that
"mm is bad"
just git gud?
@hot portal his English was perfect therefore I think he was a native speaker and most definitely not a turk
@pine falcon Obscure song reference. No shade on any Turkish Person or anything like that...lol
bruh you're referencing Istanbul by They Might Be Giants
@hot portal correct or no
WG till when only campers with rockets will win rating ?
@mystic flume @ornate spoke Who can be this person in that picture. Hint from ratingboi
50 cookies if you get 0 Rating
Oh no troll
@hot portal correct or no
@native marten Exactly! I think the guy the OP was talking about referenced that in the game and he didn't understand the old pop culture reference.
lmao only reason I know about it is because I've heard it on Just Dance
WG nont care ....
This is a discord server buddy
Confusion ensues
yes just press battle at the top of the channel
bUt ThErE's No BaTtLe BuTtOn tHeRe
Some really obnoxious teams today, camping Kpfs...
spam lowe. Its working pretty good for me, unlike the disappointing WZ120gft
I just hate the new heavy HPs, I could take them one on one before but now they don’t even have to angle and stuff(nothing matters with a dumb amount of health), because they have too much HP to risk
A match with 2 of the guys here
ngl I thought I was boutta see stevo
some players need long bann to stop write things like this !
But he is probably right 😂
You complain about that that's literally the polite way of saying it
It’s the most common greeting inside of ratings
It's polite in comparison to most other things people say I'd list some but that won't be possible without getting muted
with him its every game so ...
I find it very hilarious whenever that happens
same
Fun fact: You can play the batchat with the stock gun in ratings battles
Actually, as far as I know, you can play all tier X tanks with their stock gun
so what happened to the “top modules” thing 🤔
It also allows it with the T49 top guns (both the 152mm and the 90mm) though technically at that point it's not a "stock" module
Foch 155 and E100 can play with the single-shot gun and 460 alpha gun respectively I think
decent
Can’t be bothered with ratings anymore tbh
^
I personally havent played ratings at all, save one season way back in 2018. Back then rating was absolutely packed with good players. Games like below were the norm. Sad that's not the case anymore
The grind doesnt really appeal to me, and im sure that's what puts off others too. Imo ratings should be a skill based mode, not grind based like it is rn. Given enough battles even those below the 50% mark can get into 5k these days. Seems silly to me
Battles like that still exist but they only happen at very high ratings when the season is coming to an end but I agree with iverson
What it should be is significantly harder to gain points, and the number of points you gain at high ratings shouldn't decrease it should stay constant. That way if you do too badly you will lose points rather than having to play so incomprehensibly badly to go down a tiny bit. It would also stop small win streaks being able to put you up 20 positions when you are near the top as the points will be more spread out.
The key part there is making it harder to get points, that means making it possible to lose points on a win if you keep it possible to gain points on a loss, or making it so you lose more points per loss. Otherwise it will just stay as battle-spammy as it is now
Yeah the potential parts for the IS6 fearless have somewhat ruined the gameplay in ratings, as has war gamings lack of making it a decent dare I mention ‘elite’ game mode where there should be certain conditions met before anyone can enter this mode, also sort the poor scoring system out too & matching!
Then maybe this mode will be more exciting to the players that want a more ‘professional’ game mode without doing tourneys!
you don’t say
I plan to tryhard this and next season so I get the fearless so I can give up on ratings
What would be the requirements for this mode then?
You must have a Stevo certificate of approval to participate
Limiting who can play ratings will just make the mode even more dead. Long queue times are already a common issue for a lot of people.
It might make it worse for a bit but then the good players who avoid ratings because they hate having 5/6 teammates under 5k games will come back and ratings will be what it should be. Obviously this is never going to happen because ratings is an incentive for people who shouldn't be in ratings to buy prems
Im not sure do people think at all before these limited game modes? When you remove all the 40%ers, and below the 50%ers become the new 40ers
50%ers play better than 40%er so you get better games 🤷♀️
I just want fair even battles where BOTH sides have a td & the same amount of tier 8 heavies, not just one sided battles! This is NOT ‘my personal rating’ with this system, what an utter farce!
I mean, most of us have asked for improvements but nothing at all gets done, ratings is just another normal mode in disguise!
@sonic sedge how many times do we have to ask you to stop complaining about matchmaking here?
I mean he’s not the brightest, so you probably won’t stop asking
@ornate spoke I know, sorry but I had the same thing yesterday too where the enemy team had more tier 8 heavies & two tier 7 td’s (one which was the T28 independence) where we had one tier 8 td on the fort despair map, which left me in ‘despair’ too! 🤣
im getting pretty evenly matched games my mm is working well as it should after i paid 20bucks out of it
@restive dawn 😂😂😂
If the matchmaking was in complete equilibrium you’d be in queue for hours
Gonna stop before my luck messes with me
the best way to make ratings good again is to make it tier 10 only and only give points based on wins, and lose points always on losses, no matter the performance, just like season 1. This way, the true top players actually stand out on top.
Of course, this is probably an incredibly unpopular viewpoint but i still think it's the best way to make ratings an actual skill-based gamemode.
Only tier IX - X tech tree tanks should be able to play ranked, cause it isnt even strange to find a badger or a Mk 6 yoloing or camping at spawn
you can do that in any tank what's your point
You can, but most players with a little bit of knowledge will rather teamwork than try to snipe a Mauschen cupola out of 400 metters on a heavy
best teamwork is to get shots
You should lose less points in a defeat
but ya i think the first rating season was the best too
I prefer tech tree ratings
What shocks me in most rating battles is the amount of them which end in under 1-2 mins. Its slaughter usually.
I can only play Rating for maximum 1hour before it ends (11pm irish time) so cant experience the full flavour, but I think the later in night it is, the better the quality. However, I did play some very late night games when only around 120 ppl play and seen people who had no clue what they are doing. Clearly they are not kids (its like 1-2 am EU time)
It’s also the reason I don’t play around 9PM, too many kids having their last match before bedtime
I would actually to some extent support idea not allow players with certain % to participate if match making is so bad, such filtering would at least reduce frustration for higher ranked players
People only buy special tanks and spam them in ratings
I actually noticed that recently with badgers and Chieftains
Yep, a million chieftain mk6s in circulation
Guys I think you’re missing the answer that actually they just need to only put +/-500 rating filtration into play
Would worth a try tbh
With that everyone wins. me, being 3.3k guy (was 3.7 last season), i would struggle versus team of 4k+ so it would match me against decent enough ppls.
But what would happen if there is not enough players for a match? increase range to +/- 1000 and so on? with let's say cooldown of 30seconds?
Then only make it available 12 hours a day so people are forced to play in a concentrated timespan
anyone actually tried to see if it makes any diff at all what tier u play with?
Was matchmaking logic ever disclosed?
Heavy tanks are dominating ratings rn
here to ruin your days
...get out
there's like 4 more hours to ruin people's days
Oh man the rerolls cry so hard in ratings, some kid raged at me for capping 2 bases with a 200hp M41 90
but what else are you supposed to do in a 200hp bulldog
doesn’t matter what you do, they will complain anyway
just play 183, no one will complain
The key in these types of games is paying regularly, then all works out fine such a bouncing shots in WT and other things of that nature
I personally havent played ratings at all, save one season way back in 2018. Back then rating was absolutely packed with good players. Games like below were the norm. Sad that's not the case anymore
@leaden delta this screen reminds me the good old days wow
Back when PRAMO had like 3 teams in teister qualifiers and str8 almost got invited to twister. The good old days
remove T92E1 and sheridan in this mode
Why tho
Oh man the rerolls cry so hard in ratings, some kid raged at me for capping 2 bases with a 200hp M41 90
Oof. Some kind of kid raged at me in Centurion I. He told me "noob noob Centurion I" etc. Buuut... He did 0 damages, blocked me all game and I did 2 kills in 1v7 and more than the half of the damages of my team (2000 damages. Second best was around 1200)
Some children people are like that
remove T92E1 and sheridan in this mode
@eternal gazelle bruh 1v1'ing those tanks is so easy. Their dpm is absolute trash, and just counter missiles by getting as close as possible. Not that hard to counter.
@covert temple congrats on ur HOF
@lime sparrow ty 🤩
You missed a second where you could’ve turned faster and bounced it then.
Unfortunately those type of reflexes are almost impossible so I’d wonder what happened during the early game for you to bleed that much
Is this like a tier 8 meta or something in asia?
Ht as 252u spams. Mts are like progetto and chimera. Td as Wz120?
I started a grat rating season and the 2 previous days ive been waiting more than 3 mintues to get in battle and when i get in battle i just get disgusting bots, amazing i was second place now im 4th
Joke teams are making me stay at 4.9k points
Some players are so lucky...
git gud
Wish youn were 2nd right? @worldly anvil
I bled out trying to carry the team look at the dmg
@blissful portal no i dont
Not no lifing ratings for an is6 again
Then if you dont play ratings dont comment in ratings channel....@worldly anvil and if you play dont puto annoying comments, thanks
@blissful portal i do play ratings often, and im here to say that you complaining about matchmaking is the wrong thing to complain about
You should be noticing your mistakes and improving upon them
Practice or experience, basically
@worldly anvil lol what mistakes, finish top dmg in almost every losing team?... sure thing
@blissful portal top damage isnt everything. You should contribute as much as you can to not only do damage, but to win. Farming isnt enough, you must act to win. Theres always something you couldve done better to improve your score or your chances of winning. Even if you’re the best player in the world, theres always a slight thing they couldve done better, to either speed up the game, farm more, or win the game.
@worldly anvil lmao, doing all the dmg is basically doing everything for the team are you kidding...
@blissful portal Doing all the dmg is not ‘doing everything for the team’. You could have used your hp to save an ally for a bit longer, pushed up more aggressively maybe. Imo, there are two kinds of damage. Ineffective and effective damage. Ineffective damage is damage where it doesnt change the game’s output very much, aka doesnt contribute to a win (for example, when its 7vs1, putting a shot or two into a full hp target is ineffective damage). Ineffective damage can also be bounces. Effective damage is the opposite, where it contributes to a win (for example, when its 4vs4, a shot into a two shot target is effective damage, because that target wont be as confident in poking or attacking). Seems to me, you’re doing lots of ineffective damage. I can’t tell what your games are like, but im trying to help. This is basically an extended version of “git gud”
@worldly anvil first if you need to use hp to save an ally is because that ally have made a mistake, second why would you need to save an ally if you are doing all the dmg basically if your ally cant finish a low hp enemy then he sucks, dmg is dmg for good or bad if you are top dmg it means you did everything no matter what, plus if you are last tank standing it means your team did nothing then
@blissful portal you always, always, couldve done more
Of course unless that that "more" is basically 1v 7 the enemy team
Yep
I of course make mistakes and recognize them, but in ratings mostly some teammates just play ratings to troll or mostly new players or 40%s,
Thats the only thing i complain about
Lol such a sad mindset that u are already doing the best the mindset of someone who reaches the top and stays stagnant and never improves
I’m just gonna say “HisRoyalFatness.” That’s it. I had the same mindset as him which is why I managed to git pretty good as I say so myself, coming from a tier 8 prem buyer before 1k battles and turning me career to 60%. Obviously 1% of those games u can’t do anything but 99% of those games you can find a way to improve yourself. I didn’t play for an entire week and this weekend I averaged my first 3k in a tank. If you keep blaming the team and bots like I always see you do, you’ll never get better and you’ll always be stuck in the same no-life grind of a “bad team,” with you included in it.
Tl;dr your mindset needs to git gud
Ahh another day for 183 ratings
Is6poopoo parts
@worldly anvil is on his “git gud” and “you could have done more” spree again. He doesn’t realize that if ratings were to be implemented correctly more game could be saved but as it stands with teams being all over the place there’s a huge difference to make up. In addition poor players meet very good ones especially after recalibration so good luck compensating.
if you're losing a lot you most definitely are a part of that
Telling that to cancracker the 2nd god of ratings won't change anything he doesn't have flaws as already said he's is basically god himself flaws are for lower beings like us that still have to improve the MM is made by the devil and because of that can and stevo always face enemy they can't win against even tho they are without any flaws its just unfair @restive dawn
Anyone having 3-6% lost during rating for Asian Server?
Hard reset screws over ratings every time for the first week
@fallen mortar the mm is made by the devil sometimes, 😂fort despair map a couple of days ago!
Exactly @warm charm , so basically there are 2-3 weeks instead of a whole month. I wold prefer to simply deduct a number of points to a hard reset. Some games do that and the transition is not that long
@sonic sedge life isn’t fair, get over it
This was more or less a draw although the side I was on had 3 tanks left at the end, but this is how the scoring should work roughly where the top players of both sides/ players goes up! Surely this can be done war gaming for all ratings battles!?
i'd rather it being if u lose u lose everything. This system just forces you to farm instead of actually trying to win
If the rating worked like that then stevos rating would just plummet as he would lose points almost every game lmao
hey thats fine
only the best players should be on top
fcm 50t it's a good tank for rating battles?
no, its an avg tank
You somehow forgot about kills. It doesn’t matter how much dmg u farm if the other team still has multiple guns firing, regardless of how much hp they have left.
Put a heavy limit for god sake, the enemy team only won purely because of their HP
play tiger II or lowe... both have a ton of hp, both have usable armor, they have reliable constant damage outputting guns. That is enough for an easy point progression
😤now that’s annoying
It depends how good that guy is. If he caps or stays in the open it could be done otherwise it’s a lot harder.
He’s a reroll, so he’s a tryhard and I’ve hardly got any HP to risk it
bruh even if he was a 40%er and totally new to the game, you'd still be on a thin line lol
That’s what the heavy buffs caused
what happened though? looks like you could just go for a draw and that's about it
What happened did you ask? My team allowed that T34 to flank us while hardly doing any damage to him
how'd the game end
The game ended in me dying
lol
yikes man, 6 kills and unfortunately doesn't look like 7 would've been possible
I literally can’t do anything against him
Nope, you could have accidentally fallen off one of the concrete bits & destroyed yourself 😬
Six kills, good going though 👍
Good carry 👍
I lost -1 point that match(low platinum)
Ah crap
Your score should have realistically gone up though! So not really fair it went down, even by 1 point.
Yeah I know, that’s bs
where did you get the realistically part from
from the sentence
or maybe the dictionary
You don’t say
gg. how you farm Rating if games go like that @ornate spoke
why you doing this to us WG ?
ranked is ez
That team is miserable
rating has failed due to the low number of players actually willing to play it, so you end up with matches that are very inbalanced
doing top dmg in every battle= ez top 5
Man dont get cancer for a few Gold and is 6 skin its not important than your life