mobile has advantages too, you just take them for granted.
#rating-battles
worldly anvil
molten plaza
Benefits to either device
bleak crest
Auto-aim on mobile switches automatically from one target to another. They still haven’t fixed it. Maybe they should take auto-aim off all platforms if they want any balance.
worldly anvil
Im not actively complaining...
pine falcon
@bleak crest you do realize you can kind of have something autoaiming on phone. Aim at a spotted, tank, aim at the center of mass and drag the look out area out. If the vehicle moves your cursor will follow the vehicle until it gets unspotted.
its harder to use but if the enemy vehicle is moving you can aim it the frontal part of the tank and not the center, meaning that if the vehicle moves your cursor will follow the exact point where you dragged the lookout area out meaning you are not directly looking into the center but are able to give it a bit of a lead.
native marten
both pc and mobile have stuff that the other doesn't have, and sure maybe pc users find it easier to do one thing while mobile players can't and vice versa, and maybe one type of player can has more advantages but saying "ooh I don't play on pc therefore just remove pc" has gotta be the dumbest thing I've heard
and yes, auto-aim is weird on mobile, and yes, I get annoyed when I'm trying to shoot one guy but auto aim's like "nonono you gotta hit the other dude" but literally just suck it up and deal with it
mellow flower
A bunch of excellent players are starting to play ratings more, thats I'm guessing y I keep losing these days
lime sparrow
I saw MyLoaderDrinks yesterday. He threw a bunch of missiles at my e5 and called me a nerd 😔
median wagon
Nerd
bleak crest
Excellent players, the deep pockets kind
pallid arch
My mobile autoaim lasers hatches, my pc shoots general mass
worldly anvil
mobile autoaim stays where you originally put the reticle, so its much, much better for hitting weakspots. pc is general mass, ye
native marten
the only thing I don't like about mobile autoaim is when you're dealing with 2 close enemies, and when you try to drag your cam to one the autoaim just has about 30 seizures lol
lime sparrow
I also feel that it's a LIL harder to snap shot on mobile, idk i still need to try PC
worldly anvil
if you wonder how people can snapshot so well, most likely on pc, since reactions are faster transmitted, for obvious reasons. thats why i find many top players in ratings to be pc players, but i have no problem with that
fallen mortar
@worldly anvil well I've seen enough mobile players snap harder than I ever did on PC
And for real complaining about PC autoaim I play on PC and I rarely use it because it's unreliable since it aim center of mass and that's not always useful since tanks usually have most armor there if you haven't played on PC you can't judge it anyway imo
worldly anvil
im not the one complaining lol, im just saying you have to reach to fire, or be ready to tap it
fallen mortar
Well it was directed at you more like something in general only the one I pinged you with was meant for you 😂
bleak crest
Just have a look at what that E50 does to auto-aim in touch
scarlet fox
You know that autoaim on mobile allows you to keep locked onto drive wheels like no tomorrow? Unlike PC autoaim that hits center mass? @bleak crest
sonic sedge
Here we go, IS6 uncalibrated with only 806 battles played! Fort despair map by the way...but all that’s wrong with uncalibrated & low battles players being in an actual ratings battle!
bleak crest
Of course but that is only if the other tank doesn't change its angle or another one doesn't drive in the vicinity as in the video. Also on PC autoaim is just to keep track of a target and avoid moving the mouse like crazy. Unless it's a paper tank you disengage it before you shoot. Looking around is on the other button, manual zoom for shooting tanks that pop up behind the corner. PC is way better.
high arch
Then go and play pc
bleak crest
I don't want to play PC. If I wanted I would play a better game anyways.
pine falcon
Stevo only be showing a single battle where he did top damage while he ignored all of the other battles where he is at the bottom half of the team.
median wagon
Bruh
drifting cedar
Sniping at a moving target is way harder in pc and brawling is bit harder on mobile
median wagon
PC auto-aim is actually properly locked onto a target
bleak crest
As in server lock
drifting cedar
You can do the same thing on mobile by using the look out area scroll bar thing but it is just way harder because you actually need 3 fingers to do that..
median wagon
Sometimes the lookout bar resets itself to the gun’s position, annoying when I am controlling a rocket
quartz aspen
That’s the only thing I don’t like about mobile
bleak crest
3 games, -100 points. Noobs again ruin games, working as expected
high arch
The fact that you lose 100 points in 3 games indicates that you carried your team hard as well smh 🤦🏼♂️
bleak crest
2, 3, 6 on damage
high arch
No reason to blame teams with those results, just git gud
native marten
bruh even in like high gold (where I am) you only lose like 30 points if you’re doing 0 damage
bleak crest
I have every reason to blame them and the inconsistency of the ratings matchmaking
high arch
But you are the most consistent out of all those factors, got it
fallen mortar
@bleak crest how about you learn how to play well and stop crying about team in have the same just that I have a consistent gain and my mobile clan mates aswell
lime sparrow
lemme guess, Stevo and can are complaining again
tall berry
lmao
pallid arch
We should all just stop responding the the people that are playing flawlessly, but are being let down by their teams
bleak crest
Obviously they don’t get my bunch of players @fallen mortar
It’s unbelievable what happens, no team at all
muted shuttle
@bleak crest Please stop trolling in here, this channel was not created for you to vent out when you lose
bleak crest
I thought it was created so developers get feedback on their product and they improve it based on that, like any normal software development company works, at least those I know of. Am I mistaken here?
high arch
Constructive criticism =/= complaining about everyone and everything involved in your losses LOL
agile sphinx
Not quite everyone**, funnily enough he is never the cause
dim heron
@bleak crest okay its understandable that not every game can be carried but you have to try and yes teams are sometimes bad but every player wants to win. Ad everyone tries for it. Give your 💯 no matter tou lose or win. I lose 14-15 in row sometimes and do good damage to but well i think i never tried as much the other players did so i lost.
bleak crest
It’s not because of losses, is that they occur in streaks. In win 2/3 or 3/5 then I lose 6 out of 7. Everything I gained over the previous games. How are those balanced teams as is stated in the rating battles description?
lime sparrow
"wahh wahh wahhhhh"
dim heron
See i just completed 3 lose in a row mission all with different tanks and well i played good but not good enough I guess.
bleak crest
That 1/7th of the story. What about the rest of 6/7?
dim heron
🤦
pine falcon
this isn't rating tho
muted shuttle
@bleak crest Yes you are mistaken in this one, either contribute with something that makes sense or stop replying
lime sparrow
“wah wah wah”
bleak crest
So what is it actually about? What can be understood under "chat with devs"?
high arch
Constructive criticism that is not considered whining about losing
bleak crest
It not criticism but just an example of what happens repeatedly. After some acceptable games all of a sudden I get in games even below 3k mean rating where teamwork is non existent. The question is if it is intentional or an undesired byproduct which needs to be addressed.
worldly anvil
play better
restive dawn
Teamwork doenst exist in ratings why yall trying to find it from there?
pine falcon
^^^ its every man for himself and his own performance matters. Everyone gets the same random matchmaker with which he has to work with.
rancid dune
Can someone please explain? I got lower rating points for a better game?
worldly anvil
you're rating is different in both
you receive less or more points depending on how high your rating is
bleak crest
Probably the percentage within the team is better in one game than the other
rancid dune
I had the same rating in both games. 3742.
worldly anvil
you got more kills in one, and less in the other
my best guess
bleak crest
So it's not 100% XP based then. Also the tank can be weighted differently from team to team.
rancid dune
I got 1.1k more damage, and 2 more kills but received 10 less rating points. I did more spotting in the lower pointed battle as well.
native marten
maybe ratings point distribution is just totally different from how the xp is given out
rancid dune
I’m kinda looking for a comment from a dev tbh. It just is completely unfair.
worldly anvil
i think its also how well your team do, because ive recieved points from steamrolls before, when i did 3k and everyone else did sub 1.5k
pine falcon
I am surprised I agree with cancracker for once. Yes, if for example you do 3K damage from a total of 14K overall team damage you will get less points if you do that exact same 3K but with a 10K overall team damage.
rancid dune
Maybe... I got
3.5k out of 11.3k
4.6k out of 10.8k
Not a huge difference only 500 damage. It’s very disappointing. I’ve been trying to break gold but the game keeps screwing me over. 😭
pallid arch
New personal record for the spread in ratings. Why am I in the same match as this bot?
pallid arch
Correction...
I have freaking 6k and am playing with a guy that has 960
I'm not blaming mm for this loss, it just feels like something is massively different in the matchmaking from yesterday. The matchmaking times were far longer (2-5 minutes) but at least the team average was far closer to mine. Today I have been getting matches almost instantly, but the match is full of garbage.
mellow flower
This week hasn’t really been my week ~ rating has been stagnant
mellow flower
I'm having teams that refuse to listen to me, go alone and then call me a nub and give me insults when I'm the only one left ~ So pissed off right now
median wagon
Welcome to typical games, where kids play and be toxic
lime sparrow
Playing the Jageroo either goes REALLY well or really bad.
bleak crest
This is exactly what happens to me, @pallid arch and then losses in a row ensue.
pallid arch
Wait, you are playing with people that have a -2000 rating?@bleak crest
bleak crest
Even - 1000 is enough although I noticed bronze league players on occasion. Those guys either yolo and die in the first minute or camp near spawn.
Demanding teamwork in a team game, who would have thought? @restive dawn
That’s why I’m trying to get it a cross to wargaming that they need to foster it as it would provide a much better experience for their customers and significantly reduce toxicity. One incentive could be changing the point system in that direction.
pallid arch
You may have noticed that I did not blame my loss on the matchmaking. I bounced 3 shots on the flat front of a kv3 bot. My failure to kill the tank earlier lead to the loss. If I had a bit better luck, I would have won that. Not because my team was better(they were useless) but because I carried.
If your teams are as garbage as that, it is very easy to carry. As you can see, I went up on a loss. Imagine not even going down on the losses. It is very easy to climb in rating if you play competently on the losses and wins
bleak crest
Unfortunately it's not like that as my team splits while the other one doesn't. So they pick us up one by one. Even with 3k damage I lose 15 points. It starts with a game when I lose none to very little rating. Then after 4-5 games of losing more, all rating I won before goes down the toilet. Same story every time.
pallid arch
It helps when you spot the damage for yourself. Camping and farming damage is much less effective.
surreal socket
Can we remove ratings battles from the daily missions? Theres a reason why hardly anyone plays ratings despite the bonus xp
bleak crest
Ratings is played by those who want to avoid 30-40% wr teams. Unfortunately the system hasn't reached this goal yet.
drifting cedar
Why are you even playin raiting if it has not succeeded to satisfy your expectations off MM being in your favor resulting in complaining about "bad teams" whilst the problem could very well could be you. But as you don't want to learn you keep playin the game and blaming teams thinking that you are the greatest player to ever camp in a heavy
coral gust
Im only playing rating to get is6 fearless 😂
drifting cedar
And i to get dem coins and camos
coral gust
yup
i wish there was mad games or uprising soon. Love those 2 modes. OH and gravity. Also cool mode
coral gust
i have 5400 but teams are bad thats true
agile sphinx
Did you actually have 3k average or is that just what the ratings bit in game shows because it's completely broken
ornate spoke
I has 3 k avg dmg in 10 Battles
But 8 looses
keen moonBOT
[----] UnknownSecond#5817 has been warned.
fallen mortar
i kinda would like it if in April because of april fools there would be a special rating season just for fun like a whole season uprising or mad games like ratings
lime sparrow
Having a separate ratings systems for event seasons would be interesting. The issue is that just takes away the appeal of all the other normal modes. They’re “special” until they’re made regularly accessible
bleak crest
Back to platinum after a day of reasonable teams. Unbelievable how the experience was so different.
fiery vector
You need to make realistic the standard mode it's so much better that you can see the tanks
median wagon
So you want even more campers
lime sparrow
All I learned from realistic is that if you camp behind a bush, you're good to go
fallen mortar
And you get shot from spawn on some maps just because you have to cross a open field
median wagon
Oasis palms is so good for cross mapping people at the start of the game
dim heron
Every day wargaming gives me 3 rating battle wins and in the process makes me lose 200 points. Good
Oh i forgot. Its my fault. I play really really bad.
pallid arch
As long as you still have a rating above 960, I still have faith in you.
dim heron
I am at 5092 now
dim heron
@feral basalt am using phone for discord sir. The point here is not how i gave you info, its about what the info is about. Rating battles are rigged
feral basalt
rating not rigged but the tanks these players use are
dim heron
@feral basalt may he
pallid arch
He is in a 252u, which can be very effective when it yolos
keen moonBOT
haris2007(ASIA)#3581 was muted
calm plaza
when will this rating season end?
pallid arch
Read pinned messages
fallen mortar
name and shame isnt allowed
lime sparrow
His 90 day stats are (hopefully) better anyways
median wagon
Spam OP tanks=results
lime sparrow
I actually found some good sucess using the Jg88, E100, Jageroo, Leopard1, and E5
native marten
I had a bit of trouble with the Leopard 1, T-62A worked out well for me
median wagon
In ratings the teams die like pigs in a slaughterhouse, especially when there is silver league on my team somehow
bleak crest
They either camp the whole game or yolo at start but in the last 2 days I have to say I’m impressed with the team play and results show.
pine falcon
@bleak crest you are a hypocrite. You yourself camp and yolo but blame and don't like others when they do the same thing. HYPOCRITE
neat slate
Honestly at this point I just check this channel to see you two argue lol
agile sphinx
@cursive geyser He could have just as easily popped over the ridge and shot you to kill you if he had normal prammo. With ATGMs you had the chance of angling a bit more and absorbing it with your tracks so it actually improved your chances of survival. And no I'm not a missile spammer myself and no it's still possible to get to top 100 without 2k games and without playing the Sheridan.
The points system is based off xp not damage and it's literally made so you always gain points even with a sub-50% WR
cursive geyser
Based off xps then mts only gonna benefits cuz they fast they can spot, they can track more and do more dmg, gg nothing for tds and hts.
Btw you can’t absorb with track when it’s coming from top and hits you with some angle on upper plate of hull and I didn’t even see that missile. There should be some sort of indicator on map that missile is coming.
Or nerf the sheridan, lower the heat pen, reduce the armor and reduce the power to weight ratio.
mossy badger
U r using E5 that can easily block missiles. I’m top 60 and I barely use Sheridan at all. Hell, I’ve even used AT-15 and Sp 1C in ratings this season. Sheridan’s do have a heavy influence in ratings but that’s bc usually actually skilled players r using them. If they would use anything else they’d probably still stomp. I’ve noticed in really high skill gameplay Sheridan’s r getting overwhelmed cuz everyone just rushes you and the bad dpm of Sheridan can’t make it do anything.
Honestly diamond rating games r just slightly disorganized pro season games, and from what I’ve seen the more Sheridan’s u have the more likely u get rushed and lose
lime sparrow
I just dropped 250pnts in Ratings LMAO
The issue is staying high
EDIT:285
EDIT:258
agile sphinx
@cursive geyser Looks like it hit your lower plate and it didn't come from the top at all. The indicator is literally a missile and if you can't see it then it's all your own fault.
TDs can do more damage than meds and heavies can bounce a lot more. The only issue with the points system is the relative quantities for winning and losing which means it's very hard to not go up on ratings.
cursive geyser
Sorry I play mobile game on mobile so it’s hard to see that tiny thing
bleak crest
Guys, I dropped 800 and got then back and it wasn't the Sheridans but rather poor team play and a lot of matches against PC players.
glossy raptor
Go to settings and press only same control mode
crimson goblet
as if it matters if you play vs pc or touch, it still matters how good you are yourself so dont blame it on others 😂 and also,how do u want to know they play pc, there are a ton of mobile players that just trash most pc players,and also, same control mode doesnt work for ratings
glossy raptor
I agree. Pc players are just as good, or trash, as touch
steady raptor
I am better on touch controls. No doubt about it. BUT - I believe players who are godly on PC are harder to beat than godly touch players.
glossy raptor
I dont see why it would be like that
bleak crest
PC has better aiming controls, better autoaim.
Same control doesn't work for ratings, @glossy raptor
crimson goblet
dude if u drop 800 points then you are at fault, if you drop like 100,fine, but with 800 u are just trash then,im sorry to tell you xD
ornate spoke
XD
glossy raptor
The auto aim on pc just makes the aiming circle land on the middle of the tank, yeah definitly better then on thouch.
bleak crest
What about it being contaminated by a nearby tank?
glossy raptor
You can add a button on thouch were you can turn off the auto aim so it wont be affected by a nearby tank
bleak crest
And then it doesn't follow the current tank. Besides, on touch I have to take fingers off the controls while on PC it's all on the mouse. With a 300 € pro gaming mouse it's all there. It's a few fractions of a second but it counts. Also on pc you can zoom manually near a corner and wait. While on touch you can't. The only advantage of touch is that it locks on to a part of the tank and if that tank doesn't change it's angle it ok otherwise that advantage is lost too. And this is without going into missile which are a lot easier to use on pc.
Sure @crimson goblet , I'm trash but why did I get it all back?
pallid arch
@bleak crest I have no problems killing pc players. I will now have even less that I can spam a 252u.
agile sphinx
If you think fractions of a second are going to make up for your lack of skill you need serious help 😂
The ability to lock onto a part of a tank is a huge advantage which you apparently really don't understand.
The reason you got the points back is because the system is literally made so you always gain points no matter how bad you are.
crimson goblet
i have the most trash setup i can have, my mouse costs 10€, i have a 640 graphics card,shit internet giving me an average of 10% package loss and i can still win, because i know how to work around it, so stop just putting everything on others and get better,jesus christ man
and if u dont like it just dont play ratings and hide in your same control mode random matches
bleak crest
No need to be so bitter @crimson goblet . Some players are different than others. Think of an F1 car which needs a smooth clean surface. If it doesn't perform in the mud it doesn't mean it's useless. And until I'm not sure how wargaming deals with slow internet connections I'm not 100% sure you're not favored by it.
crimson goblet
im not bitter i m just annoyed by people like you looking for every bit to use as an excuse for everything
bleak crest
I'm not looking for excuses but for a level playing field.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest You have a level playing field. You are just so bad and you cannot accept that so you look for excuses and pretend that it's unfair to you as a defense mechanism so you don't have to accept that you are bad and you haven't learnt anything. (If someone else could copy this that would be great because he blocked me for being a troll 😂)
neat slate
😳
pallid arch
@bleak crest may I recommend using the 252u? It is currently in the store, and it will fall you to go full yolo and still be effective. Even against pc players.
And if pc has such a large advantage, how are there some people in the top 15 that play on mobile?
drifting cedar
The mobile auto aim is better than the pc one sure you can shoot while driving away in pc but in mobile you can just put the crosshair on a moving tank and shoot and with the same auto aim you can in some situatuons flick shots way easier than on pc. In mobile you also have way better controls for moving your tank than pc's full throttle and full turn. How do i know this? I have played on both platforms
bleak crest
That are better players and maybe they also have the tanks that perform best, @pallid arch
pallid arch
@bleak crest then become a better player, and get some of these well preforming tanks.
bleak crest
Is it possible on pc to play with another kind of controller other than the keyboard?
drifting cedar
I don't think so
pallid arch
Lmao. You gonna start completely about people using controllers?
drifting cedar
Imagine using a ps4 controller instead of keyboard and mouse
bleak crest
Then on pc it's just on off with the keyboard. That's not so bad if it's filtered properly by the game.
pallid arch
All these Nintendo switch blitz players. They have suck an advantage
grim radish
ok how on earth does this work? I did more damage than the Sheridan, neither of us got a kill, he got about 300 assisted damage (so his direct + assisted damage was still lower than mine). So how come I lose nearly 40 points and he loses 9?!!??
drifting cedar
Now i get what you mean yes the same setting is there
undone vortex
@grim radish look at his ratings vs yours first
pallid arch
@grim radish the higher the rating the less the rating moves. He will also gain less than you for doing the same things.
drifting cedar
It also counts the time of survival and you lose/gain more points the lower your raiting is @grim radish
pallid arch
On an ace game, I probably move up about 10 points.
drifting cedar
I would move about 25
grim radish
so... if you're lucky on calibration and get a good rating, you're set? But if you calibrate lower, you're stuffed, because you lose way more points on a loss than you gain on a carry?
drifting cedar
No you also gain more points on a win
undone vortex
@grim radish you gain more at lower rating
pallid arch
Nope. You gain them very quickly at lower ratings. You can get +50 games fairly easily at lower ratings.
grim radish
I've NEVER seen that
pallid arch
Carry harder
undone vortex
That's called a you issue
grim radish
like, I mean, I don't think I've seen anyone get 50 points in a game. Not just me, anyone
oh, I tell a lie, I have seen it occasionally. But very very rarely. Usual points gains seem to be in the mid-20s, with exceptional play getting 30s
undone vortex
I've seen up to like 80 not cause of last calibration battle
Especially in silver league it's very doable
bleak crest
It’s doable in gold or platinum too with an ace and huge damage
undone vortex
Normally gold i see people average out 30points per win
bleak crest
I’m concerned about that huge lower plate @pallid arch when it comes to buy the obj262u. I’m sure higher rating players will find a way to exploit that.
grim radish
Just went back through tonight's games. 10 games, so 70 individual winning results. 4 people got 40+ points (41, 49, 53 and 68). 7 people got 30+ (30, 2 x 33, 2 x 34, 35, 36). If that's a representative sample (and I think it's pretty close, based on past experience) then only 15% of winning players get 30 or more points added to their rating; the rest get less.
I mean, my initial question got answered - ratings move more at lower levels - so thanks for that 🙂
pallid arch
@bleak crest wow, yea good players tend to shoot at the parts of vehicles that have worse armor. Fun fact, good players also know how to hide the weak parts of the armor.
high arch
Fun fact good players exploit your camping or yolo rushing
pallid arch
And good players really dont have problems with getting past 5k in ratings.
lone thistle
I’ve seen a point gain of 114 before, no idea why that happened though, a dude in silver if I’m not mistaken, was middle of the team and gained or lost (can’t exactly remember) 114 points lol
median wagon
I’m actually glad the 252u is cheap in shop, because noobs will spam it and they don’t know how large their lower plate is or how to use their gun
pallid arch
Me too :) I can naw abuse the noobs even more
median wagon
Everyone thinks it’s OP, but it really isn’t
pine falcon
I don't think its OP but it sure is well above average for a tier 8 heavy
median wagon
You know what’s really OP? AX
pine falcon
Eh. I haven't played a lot of tier 8 recently so idk. Haven't met a lot of them.
pallid arch
I like having my alpha. AX does not deliver there
worldly anvil
252u is op when you cant aim, so its better for lower ratings matches
pallid arch
You dont have to aim when you are face to face
worldly anvil
🤔
pallid arch
Ahhhh lol, I thought you were referring to the aim on the 252. But the 2k bots are in all of my matches now, so I see no problems with the lack of aiming skill now
mossy badger
just tier 10 spam and get spanked by missiles 😏
At least u won’t face 252’s
median wagon
252u isn’t a problem at all
mossy badger
if bronze people r trying to lose ima jump in there and farm 5K 300k credit games with a premium gg WG
median wagon
Bruh imagine being in bronze
pallid arch
Imagine having a 960 on your team when you are 6k
drifting cedar
Just got to 5k and i would need 100 more wins to get all coins... Either i will go on and climb or throw a fridge into a wall
pallid arch
Better reinforce your wall.
undone vortex
Imagine having a 960 on your team when you are 6k
Bruh I had 2 2500, 1 1400 when I am 6k
pallid arch
You can actually get negative? That may be the goal of my reroll soon
undone vortex
@pallid arch owo it's called a dash but negative when yes
pallid arch
Nah nah nah, my team AVERAGE was 2.7
undone vortex
Bruh moment my team avg 3k but I'm 6.1k
pallid arch
undone vortex
Also got the same 1400 rating guy twice bruh moment the thing is ur against not that good ppl for me I'm against decent players with sad players on my end
Like enemy have multiple 5k while I have 6k + multiple silver + gold
Best part was both my Sheri was bronze and silver while theirs diamond league
pallid arch
I have had plenty of those lately, but I was shocked to be one of 2 people above the team average. Barely.
Almost the only person above it
undone vortex
Had to pull out so many miracles just to win
pallid arch
Just accept the loss and blame your team.
undone vortex
Nah man gotta work my self off just to win and most of the wins are so close
pallid arch
It's not your fault if the mm keeps making you lose. It is the fact it keeps putting all those pc players on the other team.
lime tinsel
the key to winning ratings is playing PC 😉
winter kite
I have a question for anyone who can help. How do you get the rating camo? I'm in the platinum league and I'm wondering how many battles you have to have to get the camo in a certain tank.
worldly anvil
@winter kite For each tier, you have to play minimum 50 battles for the camo. Your most played tank in that tier will receive the camo when the season ends. You can check how many battles and which tank you have played the most when you click your rating on your profile, and scroll down a bit.
median wagon
It’s stupid that there are bronze/silver on my team and high players to make an average thats not close to any player on my team, while the enemy players are all around the average
winter kite
@worldly anvilthanks for the help
tall berry
neat slate
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
tall berry
Hummm
pine falcon
thats done on purpose 100%
worldly anvil
67 rating? bruh
median wagon
Well thanks for ruining games
ornate spoke
not way in doing rating battles for season coins screw that
mossy badger
bruh I already know that mans name lmao
He should be at 63 though
native marten
I think it's harder to reach below 100 then it is to be first place
neat slate
Give him an is6
lean zenith
how does the rating camo work, is it for most played tank?
tall berry
most played tank with at least 50 battles
worldly anvil
Most played tank, and you must have minimum 50 battles at that tier to receive the camo for the most played tank, at that tier @lean zenith
lean zenith
ok
hazy tiger
Here’s a tip, if you lose three battles in a row give ratings a break. Don’t let your ratings tank
pallid arch
Having a high rating brings in credits really fast.
ocean dome
I h8 when it's so easy to win/lose, I know it's not possible but I'm just asking for more nail bitters.
I like those games although I lose 60% of the time
dusty kelp
100% rigged..4 times close to 3k...Athen com es 10 games win two..rest lost 7-1 or 7-0...PLS stop giving wg Money...only way they stop their rigging
Hits pathetic show obvious it is that ure not allowed to go up in rating..rest in peace wotb
💩
pallid arch
?
high arch
WG fixes MM to troll you and just you 😉 sad but true
median wagon
Steamroll again, amazing tank type balancing
neat slate
Does the game usually place most players in gold?
worldly anvil
yes
Depending on how well you play during calibration
median wagon
I seen the “average” is usually like 4K, they surely don’t play like that lol
neat slate
Ok
lime sparrow
I think the average is around 3k. I calibrated into gold after a few garbage matches (I was partially at fault) and it took me a few days to climb up to 4.45k.
Then I went on a losing streak and I’m down to 4.2k
Also what I didn’t know was that Ratings brought extra credits
median wagon
What, like 3k more? Not worth it to play with trash teams. Lol somehow the teams are worser than regulars for once
crisp mason
Fix mm pls
lime sparrow
least ur not dropping too bad
median wagon
I’ve had heavies who camp in corners
crisp mason
The teams are great, huh?
median wagon
The stupid players have the same wants as us, ofc they’ll be flooding ratings
lime sparrow
dont look at me im only 4.2k
neat slate
I got placed yesterday at 3100 and im now at 4200. I hope i can reach diamond by the end of the season but I doubt it
muted shuttle
@crisp mason 300XP? That is a one shot game
crisp mason
300xp is a game where rng was against me
muted shuttle
4 times?
haughty yarrow
oop
crisp mason
8 times actually
tall berry
bruh
pine falcon
@muted shuttle it looks like he had a premium account running because of the 1799 xp on the win and also the credits per battle seem pretty high considering his clearly low damage so cut those 300 xps by 1/3rd to get his base xp.
muted shuttle
Thanks, but the point remains basically the same
No effort but wants to win every game
@crisp mason No offense though
ornate spoke
“I’m playing the overpowered tank why am I not winning automatically”
worldly anvil
2600 battles jesus
mellow flower
That’s alotta freetime :0
lime sparrow
I'm more impressed by this
neat wind
the damage numbers are false
they're bugged on the first tank that becomes your favorite, for whatever reason. same with the XP average
pallid arch
The "fixed" that last update...
unkempt basin
The resistance clan is rigging matches via discord. And guess who has players in Diamond league?
pallid arch
The diamond league is not that hard to get to. I recommend carrying your weight@unkempt basin
unkempt basin
I didnt ask nor need your idiotic recommendations or rhetoric. @ lark
bleak cliff
there's a difference between countdowns and rigging
pallid arch
@unkempt basin you appear to be accusing them of getting to diamond league by rigging matches. This sounds pretty idiotic to me.
pallid arch
Never had fun in countdowns? Poor you.
unkempt basin
I don’t cheat lark. You need to, i do not.
pallid arch
Yes. I cheated to get my rating. Only way I can possibly even get diamond.
unkempt basin
Screen shot your diamond league right now. With your in game name. Post it.
pallid arch
Yessir
unkempt basin
Or shut up.
bleak cliff
@unkempt basin if you are accusing someone of cheating or rigging, then show some evidence, otherwise i see it as just a cheap shot complaining about not reaching diamond while others have
pallid arch
Enjoy
mellow flower
I wanna see how they rig matches lol
bleak cliff
yes i am on the NA server
unkempt basin
Not you i know you are.
pallid arch
@unkempt basin mind sharing your profile? I want to see how credible of a source you are.
unkempt basin
Lark go about your business. Your rhetoric is pointless.
pallid arch
I see.
unkempt basin
Blind cant see. Lark.
pallid arch
If even a blind guy can get to diamond, why are you complaining when others are there?
unkempt basin
You like and you think youre clever but youre not, putting words in people mouth lark.
native marten
bruh using ratings as a clear definition of skill level is not good lol
just use blitzstars or something
unkempt basin
Ratings battles are pointless.
Im there to get my free coins. Get my premium time. Or do missions.
native marten
and besides as long as clans actually fight each other in the countdowns, then I'd say it's alright, if they're rigging it and letting a dude farm ratings then it's just wrong
pallid arch
@unkempt basin this you? And I completely agree with penguin
native marten
bro I fricking calibrated into silver because I played soooo poorly lmao that's a feelsbadman
bleak cliff
so if youre so set on ratings being pointless, why are you complaining about rigging or someone being diamond when they shouldnt or something @unkempt basin
unkempt basin
007 im not putting words in you mouth james. I suggest you stop.
pallid arch
I'm gonna stop before this poor guy gets beat to death.
unkempt basin
Make your own statements for yourself. I will make my own.
native marten
alexa this is so sad can we get stevo v3
pallid arch
I haven't seen Stevo on here in a while
unkempt basin
Whos going to beat me to death lark? That a threat?
native marten
stg this is literally stevo syndrome getting to more people
pallid arch
The players on this server are like sharks. They will eat you alive@unkempt basin (warning in advance)
unkempt basin
So you’re threatening me? Answer if youre man enough.
pallid arch
Just stating a fact.
native marten
bruh just trust lark on this one you get to deal with around 10 people telling you to get better and be quiet
that's nicely put btw because it never ends
pallid arch
@unkempt basin I said that with genuine concern for your future mental health when others get to you on this server.
mellow flower
Chomp chomp I’m coming for you >:D
unkempt basin
Yawn...
undone vortex
@pallid arch lol give up on that dude he post YouTube vids about how people like Fishy rig to get their stats
pallid arch
Noted 👍
native marten
rigged matchmaking pack for 10k gold when (jk)
restive dawn
I can buy you that from amazon
fallen mortar
Get me one aswell 🤣, and all those people coming to this chat idc for ratings but that dude shouldn't be that or mm is rigged I only get teammates that aren't capable of carrying me all the time
Can I order a git gud pack aswell looks like I need one 😂
brisk pecan
let's see the Bat-Chat 25t is a scout tier 10 just like the Sheridant but then why the sheraidant is present in all the ranked games then the Bat-Chat is very present in these games ?? I lean for a balancing concern what do you think ???
muted shuttle
@brisk pecan Why would you play the BC when Sheridan is better in every aspect
brisk pecan
@muted shuttle because I like this tank and I find the missiles really cancer
drifting cedar
Bc is a nice tank just sheridan is way better in almost every aspect
ornate spoke
@muted shuttle to die :')
muted shuttle
@brisk pecan I like it too but it is pointless to play it now
tired vault
@unkempt basin the -r clan?
vocal mulch
Please change the matchmaking of rating battles and make it such that players of one league will only get matched with the players with same league and the league's before or after the player's league.
Example.
I'm a gold league player.
I want my rating match making with gold players only.
If there are not enough gold players, then the match maker should put either silver league players with gold, or put the platinum league players with gold. But not both silver and platinum together.
The matchmaking is so trash that we have to play along with 400 rated bronze players. They are utterly noob players. All they do is make the enemy win.
Please change the matchmaking rules for rating games.
fervent current
I would like and official statement from WG about count ins. simple
pine falcon
^^^ I would honestly like that too.
candid furnace
in my humble opinion wargaming shares the majority of burden here in this case for not writing into their software script the ability to prevent members of same clan from getting in same ratings battle
crisp mason
Hello, wtf is he doing in my team?
candid furnace
tax avoidance is legal. tax evasion is illegal. my point is this- if they allowed it- countdowns- it is not illegal. now if they did not allow platoons in ratings which they have done in their software and we circumvented that control then yes that would be illegal.
crisp mason
I think count ins are fine in everything but ranked
median wagon
It ruins matches honestly
pine falcon
@crisp mason well that dude is at 4.6K rating and probably just got disconnected, got an unexpected phonecall, doorbell cang or his game just crashed etc. You can't expect every person from you team to have perfect playing conditions
median wagon
I hate people who know they will disconnect from games/won’t play but start matches
crisp mason
@crisp mason well that dude is at 4.6K rating and probably just got disconnected, got an unexpected phonecall, doorbell cang or his game just crashed etc. You can't expect every person from you team to have perfect playing conditions
@pine falcon I understand, but I expect that you’re able to play when you start a game
candid furnace
thats the problem. you think. i think. we all think. it is better to know.
they allowed platoons in ratings until recently. then they have prevented it by writing into their software.
median wagon
Platoons in ratings are long gone
pine falcon
@median wagon personally, as I play on my everyday phone, I sometimes get a call in the middle of a battle which I pick up. Even though its very seldom, it still happens.
agile sphinx
There was a statement a little while ago about countdowns being fine as long as you played normally but that wasn't ratings specific.
If you make countdowns banned then you have to try and find a way to prove it was a countdown. For example I see a clan mates fairly often because there are few people at high ratings and we tend to play at similar times, but we have never counted down to try and get into the same game. There is no way to prove it wasn't a countdown and when there's 3 of us it looks suspicious as a few people have pointed out.
On the other hand, if you allow them then what's to stop battle rigging? Playing normally includes focusing better players over worse players so you could let your countdown partner farm damage while you don't focus them while saying you thought they weren't an important target.
It would be very nice to get actual clarity but I doubt that will happen as WG seem to not care about ratings 🤷♀️
candid furnace
if they dont want members of same clan in same ratings battle then they need to write it into their code to prevent that
median wagon
But players who aren’t from the same clan can still do that
candid furnace
thats interesting. maybe they just dont have very good code writers/programmers
agile sphinx
@candid furnace It's impossible to detect if 2 people are playing with countdowns through the games code.
median wagon
They’re a large company so they most likely have good programmers, this is a mobile game so you can’t expect much
candid furnace
they can evidently do it with platoons from same clan
median wagon
They don’t need to do that for your own personal needs lol
agile sphinx
Again 2 players from the same clan in one battle doesn't mean a countdown
candid furnace
but they dont specifically state that it is not allowed in ratings
median wagon
But you can coincidentally run into your own clan sometimes
candid furnace
if they dont state it how is one to know. i have not yet developed the ability to read their mind
agile sphinx
But battle rigging is, and I know that if I see another 7CD player I'm going to focus them a bit more than normal
candid furnace
seems like they are free to unilaterally and summarily dispense punishment without some sort of defense.
median wagon
lol, that’s the negatives of being in pro clans
candid furnace
you dont inject a person then hold the hearing
you dont dispense justice without first having hearing and allowing testimony and defense
unless you are a dictator of course. which wargaming seems to be taking that approach in this case.
so do you always rig battles when you see another 7CD mate? did they issue you a ban?
median wagon
It’s his clan mate
agile sphinx
I know what the clanmate I always see plays like and what it's likely he will do, and I also know he's a good player so I will focus him more. I have never gone into a battle trying to rig it but if I see a clanmate I will play differently.
candid furnace
isnt that rigging it? i bet in eyes of wargaming that would be defined as rigging it. as for me i wouldnt see it as such.
worldly anvil
countdowns are usually for fun. if they treat them like normal enemies, theres nothing wrong with it
candid furnace
but then again it would be the responsibility of wargaming to prevent that scenario if they thought it was being rigged. not you and your clan mate.
worldly anvil
bruh a clan tag is just a label, if they didn't have clan tags you wouldn't be complaining
agile sphinx
It isn't rigging at all. We both play to win we just play differently. The issue is that if I chose to let him farm damage then I could conceivably validate it by saying that I thought he wasn't a priority target and there's nothing WG could do to differentiate from normal random meetups.
It shouldn't be WGs fault to stop people being unsporting play (F-B-I etc?)
candid furnace
but its not what you think. its what you can prove. one cannot prove what you thought. unless you happen to be wargaming i suppose.
also i am not complaining. i do this to have fun. and playing with clan mates is fun. countdowns or otherwise.
in ratings or in other game play modes.
agile sphinx
It's an issue the WG need to clarify but I doubt they ever will
sonic sedge
Himmelsdorf...I felt a bit sorry for the other side as they only had two heavies!
neat slate
I had a similar heavy problem today too. We got one maus, enemy team got two. It wouldnt have been such a disadvantage except for the fact it was dynasty pearl supremacy, where 2 of the points are in town, so they had a pretty good map advantage.
median wagon
Heavies spam is so annoying
final oyster
@agile sphinx @candid furnace I realize that I’m late to this discussion but seeing as it was my clan I feel the need to interject a little. The thing is you can run countdowns over multiple clans and no one will ever know that it’s a countdown. The last thing I had heard was that rigging is purposely allowing your clan mate to kill you or farm you just to improve his overall stats or to win the battle. Every countdown that I’ve ever taken part in (and let’s face vast numbers of the community do run countdowns) have always been hell bent to kill your friend or clan mate. The statement I heard from wargaming was that as long as it doesn’t affect over all game play then it is allowed. Obviously in this situation someone that faced my guys the other night had his panties on a little too tight and he squawked about it being unfair. If that’s the case then I truly hope for his sake that we don’t run into him during a tournament when things are a bit more important than ratings pub matches
median wagon
Damn why are 7-0 steamrolls so common...
drifting cedar
Imo countdowns in these temporary gamemodes are fine (madgames, uprising, low gravity etc.) but in randoms and raitings it can be unfair if they are done for the purpose of "rigging" games. I have personally been part of countdowns in mad games and uprising and we didnt play like seriously but just messing around and such but there is always someone complaining about it getting angry over everything you do
celest brook
Yeah but we all play serious and none of us did bottom damage, absurdly high damage, high kills, or let people farm.
There was no rigging.
median wagon
Are you sure people in ratings play serious? There was a T92 the other day who went to ratings only to play with his rockets, he didn’t help at all. I presume he only went to ratings because it doesn’t affect his stats
celest brook
All of us maxx guys play serious. I mean the fact that the t92 does that bit we get a perma shows how unfair it is
candid furnace
wargaming needs to understand when they make these dictatorial decisions that there are plenty of other games out there for people to play and spend their money on and all it will take is to spread word through social media that WOT is run by inept strongarm thugs that will just take your money then ban you without due process.
and then hide behind some vague TOS clause that they will choose to exercise when they see fit
median wagon
In ratings people spam the buffed heavies and op tanks
5 heavies on 1 side is usually not too rare, and you know you’ve lost because your team can’t keep up with the amount of HP the enemy has
candid furnace
but I guess that is how the Russians do business. i guess this is a good case of buyer beware.
median wagon
Belarusian*
candid furnace
ok. thanks. i stand corrected-Belarusian.
its just that in Merica we dont take too kindly to dictators/monarchs/despots. you could say wargaming in acting in a like manner.
worldly anvil
'merica*
median wagon
If there’s an enemy mk1 defender, and you don’t have a defender. I think you’ve most likely lost already
The thing is so broken, it has like 100mm more turret armour than the regular centurion and a much better mobility and a stupid gun. And for the cherry on top, additional spaced armour on the turret...
muted shuttle
@candid furnace Back to the main topic please
median wagon
So WG can nerf an su 130pm, but not the mk1 defender?!
candid furnace
ok thank you so very much. will do. thanks for graciously redirecting my words and thoughts.
here is a rating question- are countdowns allowed in ratings battles? End- is that on topic?
worldly anvil
i mean it has ratings battles in the question so what u think
candid furnace
dont think it matters what i think- i think it matters what End thinks so will I will graciously and with all due respect leave it up to him to decide.
dusty kelp
Just divide rating between under over 50 % WR..plus maybe under over 5k games...think that would help slot Wieth rating exp.
worldly anvil
@candid furnace if its on topic its on topic
i should get back on topic
dusty kelp
#Help alot with
candid furnace
End- are you a moderator? if so please answer my question.
native marten
bruh he literally has the moderator role
worldly anvil
pretty sure there's nothing stopping it as long as you don't rig, aka let your friends farm you while you block allies, blocking allies, helping your friend on the enemy team win, etc
candid furnace
ok. i submit to his authority and will keep posts on topic.
with authority comes great responsibility. if he is the moderator then i want to hear it from him. dont care what other people may think- with all due respect
median wagon
Lots of 40wr managing to get to diamond, how?
native marten
also btw usually the devs make the games, not the moderators
worldly anvil
bruh its just a question, you dont have to ask a mod to ask a question
mods are just players, like us, except they moderate the discord server
candid furnace
ok
median wagon
And still, the T92 is disgusting to play. It’s like the most picked tank in ratings
native marten
well it stomps tier 8s and is decent against tier 9s and can hold up against tier 10s, but I'm seeing a lot more sheridans than t92e1s after the nerfs
worldly anvil
not now its not, its calmed down a lot
median wagon
It needs a 3rd nerf honestly
median wagon
T92 kinda has a troll turret too
native marten
the hull was more troll imo, the turret gets wack bounces occasionally but it only happens to me like every 1/10 shots
median wagon
I somehow bounced off the T92’s underside rear of the turret
If there was honestly gonna be a good nerf to the T92, I’d say the hull should be enlarged
It’s a midget tank with an OP gun and troll armour
candid furnace
@muted shuttle “as far”? what does that mean?either you know or you dont. and that is the problem i am trying to answer. nobody knows for certain.
muted shuttle
@candid furnace It is not prohibited to enter a game together
If you do that just to rig, then it is against the rules
candid furnace
it is simple yes or no answer. are countdowns allowed in ratings battles?
muted shuttle
Why is it so important to you?
candid furnace
@muted shuttle its important because you dont seem to want to answer the question in the framework in which it is posed y or n. if you dont know or dont want to answer then say so. i am skeptical of people that don’t want to answer a very simple question
median wagon
😂
native marten
it's less of a "are countdowns allowed" and more of a "what are they doing in the countdowns"
candid furnace
you ask your question and i will ask mine.
muted shuttle
@candid furnace The only reason I would rather not answer it is that people then may come here, see my "yes/no" and think that everything is allowed when I am not the one to decide. Nobody is telling you that you cannot go on a VC with your mate and get into a game together. That is completely fine but you should not use it for rigging, trolling etc
And calm down please
candid furnace
i am very calm. and you just proved my point. you would rather not say. them just say that. i would have much more respect for you. i spent 25 years in the army and pretty much know when i am speaking to someone who is bamboozling me. you may want to find out what the answer really is so you can better moderate. so in that end. have a nice day.
muted shuttle
@candid furnace Do you want me to copy the answer I got when I had asked about it?
candid furnace
yes. please. so i know who it is coming from and can attribute those words to the right individual.
muted shuttle
@candid furnace Check your PM
chrome goblet
I never really cared about ratings, but at the end of season, we get something? Dont rly know where to look
native marten
you get a camo for your favorite tank(s), you can get up to 4, 1 for each tier from 7-10, you need at least 50 battles played in each tier, your "favorite" tank is the tank you played most often in each tier, in gold you get the gold avatar (no camo, those are only for platinum and diamond), and in platinum you get the platinum avatar and in diamond you get the diamond avatar
if you're in bronze or silver congrats you get absolutely nothing
median wagon
Good, bad players don’t deserve anything
chrome goblet
@native marten and platinum is 4k+?
muted shuttle
@chrome goblet Yes
formal pecan
why in the gold league can I get matched with high end diamond players? is their no bracket mm? if so then what's the point?
pine falcon
Poeple complaining about getting matched with noobs and now people complaining about being matched with pros. God damn, there is not way to please these people.
agile sphinx
Yes there is, making ratings a game where you play with 13 bots who mirror your every move and its perfectly balanced 👍
sonic sedge
This was an accidental click to play ratings...This is why I hardly bother! Fort despair that favours heavy tanks, my vehicle was counted as one of those heavies where the enemy players had two tier 9 heavies...SORT THE MATCHING OUT! There was NO wait to get into this clearly rigged battle so no excuses for lack of players!
formal pecan
matched with pros no? lol
agile sphinx
That moment you can barely manage a 1:1 DR in a game where the average rating is 2k 🤦♀️
Fort despair doesn't specifically favour heavies more than every other map because heavies are the meta. The T92 and the standard b are two of the best tier 9s so I have no clue what you are crying about.
formal pecan
they are far from pros, more like rush around the map with t92 and sheridan no skill involved except holding w key and using autoaim, the question is whats the point of rating battles if the leagues are not bracket match making?
native marten
bro if anything being in a low 2k game means you should be carrying hard
drifting cedar
I'd rather play a med on that map and it also depends on did you really play well
sonic sedge
tell honourless ( very appropriate name) that he is blocked for being a troll! Thanks
worldly anvil
kek
sonic sedge
Fort despair favours heavy tanks...Absolutely no question, specially when the enemy players have two tier 9 heavies..🤦♂️ Go figure THAT matching out!
native marten
have you ever considered that mediums can spot the middle and then pincer the heavies if the fight over there lasts long enough
pine falcon
... when did you decide that he map favors heavy tankx? Considering I play only meds and light I quite like the map, as there is one specific positions that allows you to spot and deal damage, while not exposing too much.
Also heavies need to stockpile on top of each other on fort despair because all the cover you got for your heavies is one massive rock pile for each of the team on both sides of cap C. and a small corner of a building. Also every time you cant hulldown, you can't sidescrape (because you will be taking too much space when reversing out and will be blocking teammates) so you have to drive out shoot and come back into cover. Mediums have a way easier time as they can reach the hulldown spot on the base area, can use the hill next to the base area, can corner brawl etc.
sonic sedge
No, that requires team work of which there is hardly any, the players (not team) decided to go in to chase the heavies at the C point...So the inevitable loss ensued!
drifting cedar
Tbh c is bad in fort despair b is way better with heavies
sonic sedge
Where you have more & higher tier heavies on that map their frontal armour counts...So as I mentioned the matching was very poor!
agile sphinx
Apparently bringing sense to this chat makes me a troll 😂
drifting cedar
It very well does steve doesnt like advices
sonic sedge
I can not win the battle on my own with a lower tier tank
agile sphinx
Then play tier 10 and play well and stop crying because you can't farm off 2k average teams...
drifting cedar
Well you didnt perform that well either soo play tier 10 if being bottm tier bother you
sonic sedge
This is where the points system is a failure & is why I hardly play ratings!
median wagon
This chat is memes
drifting cedar
Yes
native marten
this chat is where all the good stuff happens
sonic sedge
@drifting cedar Did I actually mention it bothers me!? You type for yourself..
agile sphinx
I do badly -> I lose points -> I complain -> therefore ofc by pure logic it's the points system that's wrong
Don't you idiots get that? Smh
drifting cedar
"I can not win the battle on my own with a lower tier tank" to me this implies that it does
native marten
lost 50 points today, must've been matchmaking today
-Confucius
sonic sedge
Been playing this since 1/1/2015 I know whats what...
native marten
not gonna lie stevo my dude your stats say the opposite
sonic sedge
When it was +/- 2 tiers
drifting cedar
So and the point system is a failure and i calibrated with amx ac 46 in 3.5k and got to 5k in 400< battles while the average being mostly below mine
median wagon
Just because you started earlier doesn’t mean you’re any better of a player
sonic sedge
Good team mates obviously
agile sphinx
It's possible to play for a long time and learn absolutely nothing whatsoever as some people beautifully demonstrate
median wagon
Yes, you have more experience, but experience≠skillset
drifting cedar
Someone does better in raitings than me must be that he gets only good teams yes seems about right
sonic sedge
👋 Gonna play some battles instead of being here...carry on 😂😂
median wagon
Oh so you stopped providing us with funny memes
drifting cedar
Good
native marten
@drifting cedar preferential matchmaking pack for 20 USD, clearly that's what the good players buy
jk gottem
drifting cedar
Yes absolutely no doubt
agile sphinx
@native marten Shhh only people who have spent over £100 a year get that offer the other noobs aren't supposed to know about it
native marten
@agile sphinx oof right mb, better keep that a secret, it's currently how I average 60% WR
drifting cedar
And i am quickly rising to 60wr because of it
agile sphinx
Smh you are clearly a worse player than stevo it's only your teammates that make your WR higher you should know that by now... 🤦♀️ @native marten
native marten
bigthonk agreed
don't tell anyone this but I spend money to make sure matchmaking gives me good players and bots on the other team
median wagon
Wow!
drifting cedar
Shhhh but everytime i take a shot wg takes 0.5 cents from my bank account or press the battle button
native marten
lmao and now before some moderator comes we can talk about my journey for calibrating into silver
step 1: be me, play right after having a bad day, lose more than half your battles and the only thing preventing you from going even lower was that you had 1 good game during calibration and that's it
toxic yarrow
is there a diamond league camo reward
worldly anvil
there is a diamond league camo
lime sparrow
Does anyone have images of the camos, i hope they're permanent as well
blissful portal
Really its impossible to play ratings at this time... full of disgusting teams
median wagon
That’s normal wotb for you
fallen mortar
lol stevos screen xD he did worse then a guy with not even 2k rating idc if its a T9 that dude played, with 1,6k rating it doesnt matter
chrome goblet
Damn this was tough asf
Btw, if I play 50battles on ratings with one tank, lets say k-91, I will get ratings camo for it at the end of the season? And is it possible to checl how many battles I already have on certain tanks?
fallen mortar
Your most played tank is always shown and yes you get a camo after 50 battles played but you have to be above 4k
muted shuttle
@ember gulch Good job mate
ember gulch
?
muted shuttle
@ember gulch Is that your playstyle? To yolo and lose all your HP?
ember gulch
umm
I don't get it
muted shuttle
@ember gulch We met in game, you did yolo and died without doing anything so I was just wondering
muted shuttle
Am I? Just asking wheter that is your playstyle as it is very common with ATGM players
ember gulch
what do you think, if yoloing was my playstyle, i would't have such high rating
muted shuttle
Ehm, high?
ember gulch
oh? 5.7k isn't much?
agile sphinx
Just for the record, high rating doesn't mean you have a good playstyle
ember gulch
I know
k i made a mistake and what r u gonna do about it
lime sparrow
Hehe. Reminds me of Draug throwing away his Leopard in Vineyarda
fleet prism
imagine someone so angry in game .. that even on discord he comes looking for you @ember gulch
muted shuttle
I was not angry, I come across such playstyle very often, especially among ATGM drivers, knowing he is active here thought I would ask him
bleak jolt
atgm drivers are best spec. Kodyssek_ very good
agile sphinx
Just had a ratings game where the next highest rated player in me team was exactly 1849 points below mine 😂
I love easy farming but it doesn't exactly give you challenging battles 🤷♀️
muted shuttle
@agile sphinx I have matches with 3k diff in points
bleak jolt
i have battle when was guy with 3000 rating and i have 5700
agile sphinx
@muted shuttle The points spread in that game was 2828, lowest rating was 2881 which ain't exactly ideal
muted shuttle
I have rating of 6100+, yet I am playing with people in the calibration phase, sounds about fair
@agile sphinx
fallen mortar
i love the dudes that brag thier rating he was like im at 5700 listen to me well that dude had 1400 battles played to reach that playing the WT
dim heron
I have 273 battles in rating.. calibrated at 2200 and now at 5200
I used to calibrate at 3500 all the time but this time i got to knew low
median wagon
Ofc ratings doesn’t show skill, it’s the show of who spams the op tanks and gets lucky
And is it fair that I am at diamond but still matched with silver league?!
warm charm
When u see a 49% wr get to 5.7k becuz he decided to play 1500 battles...
ornate spoke
I’m 49% with 1000 average damage and I got to 4.1k with less than 65 ratings battles....
@warm charm
warm charm
It’s exponentially harder past ~4.3k because that’s when u start to gain less points @ornate spoke
lime sparrow
currently at 4.55k
thinking of trying to get past 4.6k and then decide if I should try Diamond
lime sparrow
Points are really slowing down at 4.6k
lime sparrow
actually they arent slowing down too bad. It's noticeable tho and the drops are still heavy
dull sinew
I keep having these games where the average is 2.5 but that’s because I’m a 3.5 and everyone else on my team is around 1800 and they just get clapped. I even had a game where the opposite happened I was in a 3.8k game and someone on our team was 5.9k
pallid arch
I have yet to see a more unbalanced team
next gull
Wow you have found someone below 1k rating. 👍
It is not necessarily unbalanced. What is supposed to be balanced is the average rating of the teams.
pallid arch
2 tanks on my team were above the average •_•
small gyro
I'm at 4.2k, is it possible to hit 5k before the end of the season?
fallen mortar
It's more likely impressive that he's at 6k and gets matched with someone 5k below him
muted shuttle
It is very common, mine team mates have on average around 4k rating
Some are calibrating, some are checking out the maps, or trying out the ATGMs
fallen mortar
the worst ive seen was 3k below my rating but im not very active anymore, im aware that it isnt uncommon to get such differences but 5k was new to me
dim heron
Win three battles in rating mission and just completed 6 lose in row mission first.
median wagon
Steamrolls in ratings are more common than regular matches
oh yes, because putting silver league players on my team is very fair
sonic sedge
Ratings crazy matching for you! 🙄 By rights we should have had more tier 8 heavies but no!
pine falcon
@sonic sedge if you want more tier 8 heavies in your team, than you should play a heavy as you are taking a tier 8 spot but you are not playing a heavy.
muted shuttle
@sonic sedge Stop complaining, either contribute with something or refrain from posting
worldly anvil
i mean more meds = more firepower (usually), i dont see why you're complaining
median wagon
The heavies spam is insane in ratings
Wg and their unneeded buffs, these tanks already have armour and now additional HP?
worldly anvil
i believe it was originally to counter atgms, but since they did t10, they had to do every other tier
median wagon
To counter ATGMs.. wow
worldly anvil
i mean atgm spam is also in ratings
sonic sedge
I have an idea, either put anti missile systems (or reactive armour) on all tier 8-10 tanks or take out atgm’s that have an unfair advantage! There you go, thats my contribution! Not complaining, just an idea to make it fair for all..
muted shuttle
I agree with you but your constant crying will not change anything
sonic sedge
‘crying’...are you a mod?@muted shuttle
worldly anvil
@sonic sedge i think the role gives it away
sonic sedge
Possibly, I was just checking after what he/she typed, it’s the sort of language a child would use!
worldly anvil
bruh
sonic sedge
Back to the battles 🤣
worldly anvil
i mean your complaining would compare to a toddler's complaining over not getting ice cream
agile sphinx
It's more a toddler that has ice cream in front of him but he can't see it so cries about not having any instead of looking for it.
lime sparrow
Imagine getting touchy about the way someone uses the word “crying”.
agile sphinx
@lime sparrow Stop crying about people getting upset smh 😂
lyric parrot
they need to make it so u only fight people in your league, rating battles is not much better than normal mm, in fact at times it worse
native marten
bruh imagine being bronze and taking 10 years to queue
median wagon
Bronze actually get into my matches
native marten
same
lime sparrow
@agile sphinx reeeeeeee
My ratings experience today had a bunch of losses that could’ve been turned away if it weren’t for afks
mellow flower
Another day of ratings disappointing me ;/
lime sparrow
sweet I climbed back up
ornate spoke
🦄
pallid arch
Going town is generally dumb
fallen mortar
^
bleak crest
It penned through the track wheel. It’s not specific to missiles.
cursive geyser
Gg then it’s balanced, literally gonna sit at that corner and gonna do dmg
muted shuttle
@cursive geyser You did not know about that position?
cursive geyser
No man I know nothing about this game, how to drive?
lime sparrow
yeah the e5 is really weak around the drive wheels if you angle it at the slightest
median wagon
Wow the heavy spam, 6 heavies one side
marsh valley
Could we please make ratings tech tree only....
Seeings noobs with 100 battles - 1k battles in a K-91 and doing 300 damage with sub 2k rating...
median wagon
It won’t sort anything my bro, there will be noobs all the time
marsh valley
It at least negates the amount of noobs
median wagon
It’s WG’s fault for allowing newbies to access the shop
marsh valley
ive seen a dude with one tech tree tank (Lt vz 38) and like 25 premiums and 200 average damage. I forgot where I saw them but it was a while back
bleak crest
It’s WG’s fault for allowing newbies to access the shop
@median wagon WG be like “please don’t give me any money”, right?
median wagon
Well is it convenient a new guy gets to access the shop, buy a tier X special tank and play without any experience whatsoever?
bleak crest
For WG accounts of course it is, for experienced players not so much.
The alternative would be for all players to pay a monthly or yearly subscription, no more op premium tanks and no more crew grinding. But he question is will there be enough players on the server at reasonable hours and how would this financial mode be compared to the current one.
lean zenith
Just don't let people buy premiums that are a higher tier than they currently own in tech trees.
For example, if my max tech tree tier is 3, I should be banned from buying a premium tier 4 and above
fleet prism
This is not how capitalism works!
dull oriole
I really hate it when wg has a mission saying win 3 rating cause I finally got to silver league so I had 2/3 battles won then I lost TWO SO IAM BACK TO BRONZE LEGAUE ON 1963 RATING
native marten
on the bright side, there’s no difference in rewards so dropping back down to bronze doesn’t matter
also how did you even get to bronze
lone thistle
“I finally got to Silver League” yikes
lean zenith
teams were a bit doodoo, so i calibrated to 3063
but i climbed all the way to 4300, but teams are bad, so lately I'm just swimming around 4200-4290 mark
lime sparrow
The jageroo either works really well in ratings or it absolutely flops, there is no inbetween
lean zenith
I think it depends heavily on team support
less than grille, but still a decent amount
bleak crest
Don’t play slow tanks in ratings.
small gyro
Yeah, just look at tier 8 right now. 2 obj 252u`s on each team
bleak crest
Rating is broken anyways so it just plummeted more into the abyss
worldly anvil
well, faster tanks usually get more xp per battle, thanks to spotting, assistance, dpm, etc, therefore more points, so it is a good idea to use faster tanks to rise fast
in high ratings battles, at least on NA, the teams are mostly meds and lights, and the heavies are usually e5s
the only superheavies you see in higher ratings battles are mice and is4s, nearly never e100s
agile sphinx
On EU you get a lot of variety with team composition. You can get teams of 4 meds/lights, 1 heavy, 2 TDs but then you can also have 6 heavies and 1 med/TD. Generally heavies feature the most but at higher average ratings meds are more common slightly. TDs are constantly there but not spammed too much, especially at high ratings.
I don't really know about tier 7 and 8 but I can imagine heavy prem spam everywhere.
median wagon
I’ve had 6 heavies one side, ofc we lost due to the massive HP difference
worldly anvil
and lights at lower tiers i believe
neat slate
3 tds on either team on mines is very fun
agile sphinx
@median wagon Yep, and heavies are definitely the rarest class now thanks to the very well thought out hp buff /s
median wagon
Hoo yes. Very needed buffs
pallid arch
Yea, the smasher needs a dpm buff to make up for the extra hp pools it sees
lime sparrow
the only superheavies you see in higher ratings battles are mice and is4s, nearly never e100s```
There's also usually a 268, some autoloader, and the occasional 4005You guys think 6.2k will be in the top 40 on NA for the season?
Because I'm kinda tired of ratings garbage
covert temple
Rip
native marten
I've said this before, but can we just make provisions + camo + maybe even equipment a must for ratings matches? more view range or penetration or better reload time doesn't negatively affect your gameplay
median wagon
The quarantine+IS-6 fearless have corralled everyone into ratings, regular matches feel 100% better honestly
At least I don’t see a dumb newb as often who bought their way into tier 8/9/10 and doesn’t know how to play
blissful portal
Just 3 battles and 3 loses in the day, why i cant start with decent teams...
IS-6 Fearless brought all the newbs... lol
lime sparrow
Went from 4945 down to 4814
I really wanna blame terrible teams. At the same time, i wanna blame the ratings system that gave me only 20 points despite doing 4.9k dmg games
mellow flower
o my gosh my team never listens to where I tell them to go and we keep losing because of that so infuriating
native marten
gotta love these beastly servers
lean zenith
Get off your McDonalds wifi nob
native marten
0% packet loss, feels crisp as heck
lime sparrow
dropped down to 4750. Someone please help
plush idol
get off McDonalds wifi nob
@lean zenith You don‘t have a clue.....I have on regular basis games were suddenly the ping goes up to 2-3k and after 10-20 seconds it gets normal (30) again and zhis has nothing to do with wifi or internet ... it‘s server related. You better should start using your brain before typing stupid messages
o my gosh my team never listens to where I tell them to go and we keep losing because of that so infuriating
@mellow flower So why do you not go with the team then instead of going different direction?. You may think this is not good direction but it‘s much better staying together than spliting and spreading over whole map
In general the matchmaking engine is crap..... it‘s putting you in teams with players that got 500 battles that bought a gold tank, it‘s putting you together with players that have much more rating than you, it‘s putting teams where one side has no player with more than 50% WR and the other side has 3 or more wirh more than 50% .... etc. This way you never will get more or less balanced teams
lavish walrus
In general the matchmaking engine is crap..... it‘s putting you in teams with players that got 500 battles that bought a gold tank, it‘s putting you together with players that have much more rating than you, it‘s putting teams where one side has no player with more than 50% WR and the other side has 3 or more wirh more than 50% .... etc. This way you never will get more or less balanced teams
@plush idol Good Morning! pls explain why the WR is automatically says that the player is good or not?
agile sphinx
If you have low WR then there isn't exactly an excuse for that, high WR just isn't as reliable because of all the sealclubbers, statpadders and rerolls about. In general it's a great way of seeing if a player is good or not @lavish walrus
@plush idol The only issue with the mm system is the range of ratings in one game. I get 4k and lower average teams fairly often and that means normally at least one or two 3k players. Everything else is the points system making it so battle spamming will always increase your points and noobs being attracted to ratings, although at decent ratings you don't really see them at all.
lavish walrus
i see. But i think that in general, MM is a little bit off (putting that very gently). Most of the times, i get close to 2k dmg and i am first and i see the rest of the team with 600 to 0.
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus MM has nothing to do with players. MM is random and you really cannot blame small kids for not being the best in the game
lavish walrus
@lavish walrus MM has nothing to do with players. MM is random and you really cannot blame small kids for not being the best in the game
@muted shuttle And if this happens constantly? Is that random?
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus Do not tell me you lose all your games
lavish walrus
of course no. I didn't say i am losing. I am just saying that it happens a lot, that the team are more and more made of of the "random kids who don't play well enough"...
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus Again, MM has nothing to do with that. For many users this game is just something to play while being bored. They simply do not care whether they win or not, whether they have blue or green WR. Keep this in mind and expect very little to nothing from your teammates and you will be fine
lavish walrus
@lavish walrus Again, MM has nothing to do with that. For many users this game is just something to play while being bored. They simply do not care whether they win or not, whether they have blue or green WR. Keep this in mind and expect very little to nothing from your teammates and you will be fine
@muted shuttle Lol. Thanks, well that is exactly what i am been doing. Playing alone and trying to get the best of my team. Of course, that doesn't seem enough when the entire enemy team gets me and the 0 dmg members of MY team tells me i am a noob (or bot). hahahaahaaaa. Thanks, End.
agile sphinx
Stop trying to do the best for you and start trying to play for the good of the team and you will win more @lavish walrus
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus It is unfortunately true. Play for fun and that's it
lavish walrus
Stop trying to do the best for you and start trying to play for the good of the team and you will win more @lavish walrus
@agile sphinx Best for me? dear Honourless, that's what i am doing. When the half of the team goes L, the others go , meds don't spot and the heavies are not using any angle, then what good for the team i am playing?
@lavish walrus It is unfortunately true. Play for fun and that's it
@muted shuttle Thanks End, that's the proper mentality after all!
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus You literally cannot expect anything from your team mates, seriously. Play as if you were alone or with your toonmate only. Having fun is the most important thing
sonic sedge
@muted shuttle There are NO ‘toons in ratings!
muted shuttle
@sonic sedge I know, I am talking generally now
sonic sedge
Ah ok
lavish walrus
@lavish walrus You literally cannot expect anything from your team mates, seriously. Play as you were alone or with your toonmate only. Having fun is the most important thing
@muted shuttle i know! that is what i've been saying to the bullies out there! It's only a game! i totally agree, End... And btw that contradicts the mentality of Honourless here that says play with the team... Ha
@sonic sedge I know, I am talking generally now
@muted shuttle End, it's not fair to have platoons in Rating, but it's an idea though.
sonic sedge
‘toons were banned from ratings quite a while ago
muted shuttle
@lavish walrus Well in ratings wins are very important as you gain points for them. My comments were rather for the normal mode
lavish walrus
@lavish walrus Well in ratings wins are very important as you gain points for them. My comments were rather for the normal mode
@muted shuttle i got that. I am just saying that, as an idea.
agile sphinx
@lavish walrus You play for yourself and you will lose in ratings. If you are a good player then playing for yourself in normal games will work but you will have to carry. The safest thing to do is to play as part of the team and you will win more
lavish walrus
@agile sphinx Best for me? dear Honourless, that's what i am doing. When the half of the team goes L, the others go , meds don't spot and the heavies are not using any angle, then what good for the team i am playing?
@lavish walrus Honourless, please read this again. What good does it do, if i keep telling them, no that's wrong, keep together guys etc. I playing good enough but the rest don't. And don't tell me that you ALWAYS end up playing with a good team. I will not buy that.
bleak crest
Battle without spotters on my team
lavish walrus
Battle without spotters on my team
@bleak crest thank you! That proves it!
fallen mortar
Espacially not being able to see top tiers proves it😂 😂 😂
And on that map you can just put a hull down heavy in the middle and there you go enough spotting
agile sphinx
@lavish walrus You aren't going to win every game. If you aren't carrying hard then you are going to have to accept that you are going to lose, but to maximise how many games you win you need to play as part of a team and not just go for individual damage. I do not always play with good teams, what I do is carry as hard as I can and it works well for me
I also suggest not listening to cancracker because his tin foil hat society is still trying to figure out how to pretend mm is rigged against them instead of accepting new members
next gull
Is it me ? I have the feeling that this season I see more often positive rating points on defeats.
I think I already got 20 rating points when losing. Seems new to me.
sonic sedge
Few & far between...It’s not exactly ‘your personal rating’ when you achieved THE highest score out of all the players but your rating doesn’t go up as much as the players on the winning side! It’s just not cricket really! It wasn’t exactly my fault ‘we’ lost now was it.
It’s too much like normal battles whereby the losing side loses & the winning side wins, ratings is supposed to be a bit more special than that but it’s not!
War Gaming, lets start rewarding the individuals that actually do well !
glossy raptor
@sonic sedge We get it, you dont like the MM but please stop complaining its very annoying
sonic sedge
@glossy raptor Block me then...simples
glossy raptor
I am sure im not the only one thinking like this
fallen mortar
luckily you own a mask or you might get infected with the Stevo virus aswell Oggiv and yes we think the same but we gave up its like a autoimmune disease and seems like it has no cure
pine falcon
Lmaoooo
lime sparrow
Sponsored by CanCracker
Also is anyone else miffed by how that once they get up to the 4800+ range, it gets exponentially harder to gain points and also a LIL easier to lose points?
I barely get 20+ points from absolute carries and it's easier to just lose all of them when you're the top scorer on the losing team 😔
4750 is a lil far from 5000 rn...
pallid arch
The hardest place to go up that I found was right on the edge of reaching diamond
pine falcon
the hardest place is the range 4700-4900 in my oppinion
ebon nebula
Bruh I was at 5k dropped a lil and now can’t get back up
mellow flower
@plush idol The problem is that half of them split up because they also disagree, this causes me to become confused and try to go to where I think is right. This however, usually causes that other half of my team to get steamrolled, always either causing me and other teammates to be the last one alive against the whole enemy team, or me getting steamrolled and the other half being the last ones.
Its quite annoying but I have a solution for that, its to drive in a tank thats fast enough to retreat back if I spot the whole enemy team, or if they are all on the the other side, I just rush there to try to help my teammates and hold the flank
median wagon
You know he’s mad when he does a quintuple dislike
steel ingot
Ever thought the enemy team was just that good? Of course not. It is all rigged.
median wagon
Some things needs to be sorted about ratings, poor guy did the best on his team and yet loses lots of points
bleak crest
In battles below 3,5K anything can happen...
opaque yacht
I have a suggestion for Wargaming developers about Rating battles. By my own, I have no interesting to play Rating battles simply because it haven't rewards directly in game, and my idea is implementing something like a ladder of awards, where you can raise your ranking and win prizes accordingly.
Anyway, a lot of newbie players will try to win that prizes and, consequetly, the Match Making will broken (Rating battles should be directed for experienced players, in my opnion), and to solve this problem, the player need to have more than 48% WR and more than 2000 battles, or something like this.
median wagon
I saw a lot of noobs with broken tanks in diamond
Ain’t a test of skill, it’s a test of who has the most spare time and broken premiums
lean zenith
You have to think, WG is catering to people who play the game for fun. If any change makes the game less fun, WG is unlikely to implement it. Banning premiums makes the game less fun for the 5 year old who used his parent's credit card to buy a 121b when he's only on tier 1. This results in a loss of money and player, something WG hates. Therefore these changes are very unlikely to be implemented because it interferes with the "fun" population and their revenue
median wagon
Wg intended to make ratings competent, ok
lean zenith
Did they though? If so, then I would expect to see ratings getting some attention every other update or so, but that isn't the case.
median wagon
No they didn’t, they failed ratings so much
pine falcon
Its not the players that are at fault, its the system. You meet 1K players when you are at 4K because the system is bad not because the players wanted it so.
As I have said before, I would like to see something close to the WoT PC rating system in blitz as your rating actually depends on every single one of your battle performances.
median wagon
Damm there are a lot of sweats in ratings today, lost quite a few ranks without losing points
keen moonBOT
Groover1972_2017#7664 has been warned.
muted shuttle
@pine falcon You cannot make that as these diff. happen due to not enough players in the queue. I nearly at 6300 yet I play with people at 4k because there are not enough players around my score
pine falcon
I know. Too little players for the system to be like PC. But its nice to dream and hope for something better, isn't it
muted shuttle
Yes it is ) If we had such a system, you could not achieve such high rating points. I do not think anyone would be able to win as many games as now if they were playing against players with similar rating
livid gale
could u tell me why these rating battles are so much CURSED? I played 13 battles today on t8, u know how much i won? ONLY 3 TIMES +8 LOSTS IN A ROW
undone vortex
its life man i lost like 6 in a row total -10 then won 2 battles after that +10
bleak crest
It's because there are a lot of players that don't belong at a certain level either cause they have a low number of battles and bought a high tier tank or they are simply out of their depth. It's unbelievable how platinum players still meet bronze league yoloers and spawn campers.
agile sphinx
It's unbelievable how people can have 1325 games in ratings and still be barely over 4k isn't it?
At least they don't have the nerve to try and blame that on teams and rigged MM though, it would just be laughable if they did...
I camped in IS3D and gained a lot of points back but it's not the style of play I want.
@bleak crest
I would also like to point out this piece of information as well
pallid arch
I have basically hit my limit at 6200. If I can continue up, its gonna be insanely slow (without using a pc of course)
bleak crest
PCs are great for guiding missiles.
worldly anvil
It's easier on mobile
pallid arch
Meh, I actually prefer pc for missiles. It is easier to laser hatches
worldly anvil
on mobile the camera actually locks on to the target, at least the auto aim does
bleak crest
You’re dead on mobile if you wait for a lock if a tank rushes you. On pc with the mouse it’s much easier to hit.
worldly anvil
i play both pc and mobile, I play pc more than mobile. yet i still think its easier to hit missiles with mobile.
bleak crest
Normally this should not be the case but in this silly game anything is possible and everything is upside down. Try to change some settings on the mouse maybe and adjust resolution on the fly if it has a button for that.
worldly anvil
I'm not saying I'm bad at them lmao, I'm saying that from my experience, mobile is easier to guide missiles.
jagged dirge
mobile is easier but its not so hard on pc
cold nimbus
Anyone know how they calculate the points you get
Cause 35 dosen't seems like that much
native marten
35 is pretty big
lean zenith
ive gotten +60 before, I think it just depends on how you did in that battle in regards to your current rating. If you're doing 4k damage and 2 kills at 1000 rating, you might get massive gains like +80 or +100, but do the same game at like 6000 rating, you probably will gain less than 10 rating because you're doing what's expected of you at that level of "skill".
lime sparrow
i did 4.8k and 2 kills at the 4.8-4.9k mark and I barely got more than 20 points from that. Maybe I'll break the 5k mark next season once I get my hands on the WZ-121
median wagon
Oh boy, don’t be so optimistic because of the maus and Sheridan spam
plush idol
@plush idol Good Morning! pls explain why the WR is automatically says that the player is good or not?
@lavish walrus it does not automatically say but it‘s a good indicator.
blissful portal
How can i do 3k dmg with my Rhm in a tier 9 battle and lose 10 points when my team couldnt even reach 1.5k dmg... Points system should be changed
blissful portal
Really WG should watch Droodles video about ratings... its just unplayable
native marten
ok
worldly anvil
because maybe you had different rating compared to them? maybe you get higher xp? maybe you got more/less points because of your performance/rating? also i believe ratings gain and loss is also affected by how the team does
lean zenith
In order to actually gain rating from a loss, you literally have to do like 6k damage and 5 kills for like 1700 base xp for like a +5, which is unreasonable
bleak cliff
No it's not unreasonable. You shouldn't gain any points on a loss. At MOST you shouldn't lose any. If you lose, you lose points. If that changes, then that will break the system. Can't be rewarded for doing slightly better than your team. "Oh my team did 2k damage and I did 4k. Omg how did I lose points"
And the complaining with the teams being horrible; stop complaining about it. You choose to play this mode. You deal with what it brings.
Being at a higher rating as well forces the matchmaker to balance out your rating with the people on the queue to make a game, so if you're at 5-6k rating you'll most likely be queued with 2-3k rating players on your team and the enemy might be more balanced having 3-4k rating players. You see this as unfair, but that is how the matchmaker works.
There are not enough players at higher rating playing or not enough players in ratings at all for a balanced matchmaker. Nothing can be changed unless there are more players than there already is
worldly anvil
im at 6k, and usually the matches are from high plat (4.8k+) to 5.5k avg
when i have the plat battles usually what happens is many of my teammates are gold and some plat, and the enemy team usually has 6 plats and a gold, or smth similar
basically what he said
lime sparrow
How's the 121 in ratings?
native marten
WZ-121?
lime sparrow
Yes.
The T-54 that the Chinese slapped a boomstick on
native marten
I think even in the literally 7v7 Maus vs Sheridan game mode (and yes I’m kidding I know it’s ratings) I think it can perform really well
lime sparrow
noted. Maybe the 120 grind won't be so painful after all
mellow flower
Funny thing happened today, I transferred the wotb app onto another source, being from steam to Microsoft store, and then played ratings. Because ratings mm takes time to put me in a game, I start watching a vid and hover my mouse repeatedly on the game app to see if my game has started. What I didn’t know was that the Microsoft store version did not show what was currently happening until you actually clicked the app to go fullscreen. As a result I got fooled into thinking I was still in mm until I clicked on the app after some time to see how long I was in mm. To my horror it showed me dead in the spawn and my teammates saying “This afk tank” and enemy telling to report me. I quickly apologized and told them it was a technical issue, still got a verified complaint, sending me into tilt and losing even more of my games :/
dusty kelp
Send a tricket to wg and appeal.. Might help
plush idol
In order to actually gain rating from a loss, you literally have to do like 6k damage and 5 kills for like 1700 base xp for like a +5, which is unreasonable
@lean zenith That is not correct. I gained 7 points allthough our team lost and I did 2k damage. Of course far most damage in our team abd also on other team there were only 2 others who did more.
Funny thing happened today, I transferred the wotb app onto another source, being from steam to Microsoft store, and then played ratings. Because ratings mm takes time to put me in a game, I start watching a vid and hover my mouse repeatedly on the game app to see if my game has started. What I didn’t know was that the Microsoft store version did not show what was currently happening until you actually clicked the app to go fullscreen. As a result I got fooled into thinking I was still in mm until I clicked on the app after some time to see how long I was in mm. To my horror it showed me dead in the spawn and my teammates saying “This afk tank” and enemy telling to report me. I quickly apologized and told them it was a technical issue, still got a verified complaint, sending me into tilt and losing even more of my games :/
@mellow flower Well...honestly you deserved it. You fooled your team mates ....quite simple. „I did not know“ is not a valid excuse or do you tell a policeman that by switching on the cruising mode in your car you were not aware that it is not reducing speed if there is a traffic jam or speed limit. It‘s your duty to check this before. I fully understand your team mates and would have given you neg. feedback as well. Simply said if you click to join a game than wait for it’s start. The 1 minute waiting time does not harm you.
What I feel much more annoying is that you hardely can get more than +35 pts when winning but it‘s quite easy to loose 40 or more points on a loss. It‘s a team game and if your team sucks or does stupid things you can‘t do anything ... no matter how good you are. Why are we basically rated on a team performance. Also take the overall damage made compared to team mates and opponents in account.
mellow flower
Bad misjudgment by me, but it was just surprising that the app would be different at that aspect, being I always did that with steam and it turned out fine everytime
@plush idol Imo I think the best tank to deal with bad players are light tanks, if your teammates go through a route you think is an auto loss, you can just go through your preferred route, spot the enemies, run, and then support your team from there
plush idol
@plush idol Imo I think the best tank to deal with bad players are light tanks, if your teammates go through a route you think is an auto loss, you can just go through your preferred route, spot the enemies, run, and then support your team from there
@mellow flower That would mean my team survives long enough 😉 Very often I have guys that go in the open with light tanks and are dead at first 2 shots after 15 seconds. Especially Bulldog player seem to have a tendency for this behavior.
plush idol
But I thinknit would allready help to remove rating battle wins from the daily task list and to let only play the ones that really want a rating and want improve.
keen moonBOT
x-es#0630 has been warned.
ornate spoke
When will the Rating be reseted ?
worldly anvil
this rating season ends on may 31st, and the next season usually happens a few days after the new month has started @ornate spoke
ornate spoke
Ok thx
agile sphinx
Keep getting matched with 4k average teams, it's super easy points farming but the games are worse than random. I literally had one of the easiest 5k games I've ever had in the WT not taking any hits until the end because the reds basically let me farm freely.
This is not why I play ratings, and this is not what ratings should be. I don't care about getting points I care about good games not games with average ratings 1.8k below mine
lime sparrow
I give up on Diamond this season. I'll just wait for the next season to
pallid arch
Anything below 4k(a while after they calibrate) is worthless trash
lime sparrow
How often do yall calibrate above 4k
glossy raptor
Every time, almost
lime sparrow
This season, I calibrated at 3200, climbed up to 4945, and suffered a drop down to 4770.
I kind of wish that the 4700-4900 range wasn't so painful lmao
keen moonBOT
R4ND0M_nugget#2186 has been warned.
dusty kelp
X-es..food idealer..light help a little
marsh valley
I calibrated at silver somehow this season and im now sitting at 3.2k... ive never calibrated under 3k before....
median wagon
Ratings is shocking today
Seriously, an AX and WZ on enemy team. Yes, we got steamrolled. Stream rolls shouldn’t happen in ratings because apparently it’s “competent”. It isn’t even fair when we win a steamroll, because there is no competition at all
Yay, 1 singular point
bleak crest
Better don’t play when teams are bad. It just drags your rating down.
glossy raptor
Never play then 😉
dusty kelp
Lol
pine falcon
... ah yes, when your rating resets every season you should not be allowed in any battles because you aren't calibrated
pallid arch
Ikr, why was my reroll placed with 2k bots as I was calibrating?
median wagon
Bruh, you know that 0 damage guy will calibrate in silver or something
Also, why does that enemy IS-3 get rewarded for absolutely nothing?!
That makes no sense at all
radiant cypress
idk mate there is so many question to ask for but wot is doing good about the new water effect 😓
neat slate
The is3 must have done some spotting or some sort of assistance damage, or he shot tanks and kept tracking them or something
median wagon
That was a generous reward for 0 damage
pine falcon
no. His rating is so low that he gets automatic points if he wins
neat slate
The rating system is perfectly fine and not flawed at all
pallid arch
And that is why I say you have to be absolute trash to be below 4k
median wagon
It’s unfair sometimes when I do the best in my team and still lose points(5.6k btw)
neat slate
I always calibrate in gold, hit 4k and leave it there.
median wagon
The rating teams are so bad that no carry can carry them
pallid arch
Carry harder
undone vortex
I mean I lost 6 in a row and win 2 afterwards it's the cycle of life
radiant cypress
The rating system is perfectly fine and not flawed at all
@neat slate rewarding system might be good but selecting people it has have a little problems
median wagon
That won’t change anything my guy
undone vortex
Lose 6 total -10 win 2 +10 life of a 6.2k rating player
median wagon
So in a situation where like 3/4 of your teammates go to the wrong side and get slaughtered quickly, I don’t think there any coming back from that
undone vortex
Just carry you will eventually go up based on how hard u can carry
median wagon
The stupid heavy spam is annoying though, even longer matches and more lopsided teams
neat slate
The system needs looking at before I touch it again.
I only calibrated this season because of rating missions for the BP, and I didnt want to end in gold so I got to 4k and left it there lol.
median wagon
Who in WG headquarters thought it was a good idea to buff the easiest class to play?
neat slate
The most hateful thing is that I cant bully tier7 heavies in my tog anymore 😔
undone vortex
Idm heavy buff but like not by so much maybe the most hp increase a tier X gets is 100-300
median wagon
For example, let’s say the VK 100, before it was at around 1470, now about 1900. That’s so stupid
undone vortex
Ye they buffed everything by like too much tier X is still ok but lower tiers or mid tiers are just sad Isn't it like 1200 hp arl44 lol anyways shouldn't talk abt it here
pallid arch
Maus hp pool is kinda broken
median wagon
I’m bringing this here because it’s like the most picked class in ratings
Some heavies needed the buffs, some really didn’t
undone vortex
Like if they wanna buff maus and e100 by like 200hp it's ok but this is just too much
pallid arch
Making poor little t62as chip away at it's 3k health 250 at a time.
median wagon
This will prevent a lot of kolobanovs
keen moonBOT
Jesuskh#9890 has been warned.
cursive geyser
Noone on EU gets 50 certificates, what’s kind of logic is that? Jumps from 60 to 40. Pls change it to,
50- 101-150th
40- 151-200th
30- 201-300th
Top player on EU has more points (6.8k) than on RU (6.5k) and different of diamond players is only 700 between 2 server. This time EU has a lot of competition.
median wagon
Bruh
lime sparrow
I'm "only" 230 points away from the Diamond league. Think i'll just try to get Diamond next season 🤷♂️
bleak crest
11 lost, 4 won, -12 points. Simply useless to play...
lean zenith
oof
pallid arch
Have you tried winning more?
native marten
can confirm winning more has made me gain points
lean zenith
Can confirm not being a bot has won me games
blissful portal
After this Rating season will we be able to win parts of certificates?
lean zenith
if you are diamond
blissful portal
Yeah but i wasnt sure if next season we could win more parts
median wagon
Do you think we know?
lime sparrow
I wonder how many points I can gain/lose in 30 minutes
native marten
depends on how hard you try
median wagon
I wonder why people still run idiot tanks like the FCM, KV4... inside ratings
native marten
bruh at least the FCM is semi-usable with the decent gun, when you see people run stuff like tortoise, then you gotta be scared (if they’re on your team)
median wagon
Or how about the people who play ratings but they know they’ll lag.. what’s the point playing and ruining the match then
native marten
sorta depends, I get ping spikes or packet loss occasionally and there’s legit nothing you can do to expect it, but for the people who are already lagging in the first place and then do it then it’s an issue
prime ferry
@native marten I still remember the battle I had an AT-7 on my team.... shudder
native marten
having an AT-7 on your team is the same as having a 6v7
playing the AT-7 is just asking to lose
pallid arch
@median wagon I used a fcm to get from 3200 to 5200
ember osprey
@cursive geyser who cares?Your reward is the bad IS6. So you spent your whole day for ratings. What do you get: An ugly diamond camo, the Pls-focus-me diamond avatar and now you can get certificates for the worst premium heavy on T8
pallid arch
And here we have a guy that uses the pen gun on the is6
bleak crest
Is6 wasn’t visited by the buff fairy for some time now. Both guns are bad especially for ratings.
silver kite
remove the WZ120 F T from ratings
fallen mortar
The 175mm pen gun on IS-6 is good and Is 6 mobility and armor are good enough against meds so just don't hunt heavys 😂
weak dagger
@patent pier does this mean we will be only able to obtain remaining parts in the next season only? (It won't be possible after that)
agile sphinx
@weak dagger Ribble has said it will be possible to get the fearless just by getting to 5k so there will be more chances to get parts but no confirmation afaik about whether it's possible to get parts ever month from now
weak dagger
I know that even 10 parts holder will be able to get the tank but the question is how many seasons will allow us to obtain more parts
agile sphinx
I would guess that it will be a regular thing for a long time until people start complaining and wanting a new tank which will probably be at least a year but WG seem to be very vague about it 🤷♀️
lime sparrow
played ratings for 30 minutes
lost 11 points
median wagon
Bruh
bleak crest
To get to 5k is pretty simple, just buy the obj252u and spam battles. I saw a 50% we player that did just that. 600 battle in obj and got to the diamond league. Not a good player but a very lucky one. Now the question is why should anyone who has the obj252u need an is6?
median wagon
Are you saying 252u is difficult to tackle, well you haven’t experienced many Caernarvon Action X have you?
Plus the IS-6 fearless is prized for its rarity
ornate spoke
@ornate spoke no provocative language here
Ok xD
lol just tryna save u from the mods
<3
mossy badger
bruh my most played tank in tier 7 is a SP 1c and I’ve played a few ratings with an AT-15
Almost no premium tanks at all
And I’m 6k+
There’s absolutely no reason to not hit at least platinum unless you either don’t play a lot or you are just simply lackin
median wagon
Well you’re not everyone
bleak crest
You surely get great teams, @mossy badger . What other tanks you play? Emil and 30.02 D for sure
mossy badger
Emil was good before it got buffed twice
lean zenith
Premiums are definitely not needed for ratings, you just need to get the meta tanks. Imo, tier 10 is the most "balanced" in terms of premium to tech tree tanks because a lot of the tier 10s are very good. I got to mid plat through just playing grille and 268. Very doable, just have to occasionally carry the team and know how to use your teammates to your advantage.
worldly anvil
the last part is debatable, but otherwise yes
bleak crest
Really? Use your team mates? They yolo and die in under 2 minutes. Then all reds are on you. You need premiums with strong armor.
fallen mortar
Well you still have that amount of time to use them as meatshields
agile sphinx
And farm off them for damage and get kills easily ^
Playing with bad players literally just gives you the opportunity to gain more points
late solar
i got put into platinum with just calibration battles
median wagon
lol same, but it’s just luck taht you get good battles
lean zenith
Yes your team isn't always dependable to support you, but use them as a meat shield and if they die, use their dead tank as hard cover to peek from. Every bit of damage your team does helps you win. Every hit your teammates take is one less hit you have to take, allowing you to survive longer and do more damage as the enemy focuses on your teammate and not on you.
median wagon
Some battles can’t be won, no matter what you do
agile sphinx
And some games you just get two clueless 3.9k average teams and an easy game to farm from 🤷♀️
crisp mason
So I just “lagged out” but I opened my safari and there was litterally nothing wrong with my wifi, please explain how that happened. I was playing ranked too so now I lost rating becuase of some bullshit -.-
fallen mortar
its not luck take a T7 tank and play really well and plat is pretty much save
lean zenith
So I just “lagged out” but I opened my safari and there was litterally nothing wrong with my wifi, please explain how that happened. I was playing ranked too so now I lost rating becuase of some bullshit -.-
@crisp mason did you check your ping and packet loss? Opening safari is meaningless to check for lag, you have to test your internet speed.
crisp mason
If you can refresh pages in seconds there’s nothing wrong with the ping
bleak crest
You can have packet losses on some routes and not on others
lime sparrow
Plat I'm not worried about. Diamond on the other hand.... that 4700-4900 range do be painful tho
median wagon
Bruh
lime sparrow
shush I went down 11 points again
ornate spoke
If you have something more than "all med side" in brain then 5k is 50-100 battles (overall this season)
lime sparrow
prob not
I'm hoping to get a good calibration next season since I'm going to have less time for the next few months
bleak crest
“All mid side” works in platinum as it makes the muppets useful to a certain extent. If they push the enemy meds it’s even better.
plush idol
@crisp mason did you check your ping and packet loss? Opening safari is meaningless to check for lag, you have to test your internet speed.
@lean zenith ... before the recent update I had this on regular basis that suddenly within a game the ping went up to 2-3k for 10-15 secs and than went down again to 20-35. If you have this at the wrong moment you are simply dead. These problems were server related ones and I hope they are gone now
drifting cedar
It is really easy to get 5k raiting i calibrated with amx ac 46 at 3.5k and ~450 battles later i am at 5k and will receive a camo for the amx ac 46. I just depends on how well you play not that "the game is rigged" shit. But what do i know right @bleak crest
zenith trellis
Please replace rating with a fun mode. Rating is dead and no fun anymore.
bleak crest
It’s not fun because it’s badly implemented and people care more about rewards than not playing with noobs. I for one am tired of having camping med teammates that are diamond league material and between 50 and 51% wr in random.
Sure it’s very easy for some, @drifting cedar. Amazingly easy with the right teams. With the kids teams I get, I don’t think so.
drifting cedar
It isn't all about the team i constantly had to carry hard and i did that is the difference between me and you
bleak crest
They biggest difference is paying. The name should be changed to premium rating battles.
drifting cedar
Only premium i played with was the is5 wich is bad...
bleak crest
Nice story, tell it to the 2-3 zeros on my team
sonic sedge
And this is the general standard of play & dare I point out unbalanced teams, the tiger 2 fired no shots & then starts typing in Russian at me ( I knew it was me as he put ‘m6’ at the beginning) because I was last man standing!
Players are being made to play this mode as it’s in the missions but have no interest in their rating!
This mode could be quite good but it’s broken!
agile sphinx
What do you expect with a team average of 2.6k? It should be easy farming for you but you can't even do that so apparently you don't deserve to be at higher ratings and so you don't deserve to get good teammates.
radiant elm
Trapmelon piece of BOT, omg
fallen mortar
the thing is what is considered a kid ? everything below the age of 18 ? and why do you even complain just carry your team i bet i could get your acc at 4k in no time xD the thing is, no offense tho, most of the people complaining just suck at the game.
plush idol
Well....some of you are really selfish. Once you reached tier 7 you get 3 wins in rating battles as your saily task. This means as new player you have to play games with experienced players where you are automatically lowest tier. Not everyone has the poolnof hundrefs of tier 10 tanks and the knowledge which of thems are the best to take. So....remove this from daily tasks and let the ones play that really want it and add a minimum number of battles before you are allowed to play rating battles.
fallen mortar
you dont need the rating quest to get the 600keys per week 😅 just dont do it then, if everyday a mission misses, like the 3 rating battles, its still 756 keys
bleak crest
Every second or third game I get a city map. That’s so random especially in meds and lights...
sonic sedge
2nd & 3rd battles, note in one we had about the two lightest tanks in the tech tree!
agile sphinx
Look at this bs MM, reds have two WTs top tier and we get a damn BC which is useless, its like the MM IS RIGGED AGAINST ME /s
bleak crest
Missions seem to draw hostile matchmaking and rng. Win 3 ratings? More likely lose 5-6...
drifting cedar
Yea yea for sure you get 2-3 guys doing 0 dmg in every game of raitings for sure what about the other 99% of the games?
sonic sedge
Quite easy farming points/damage with a WT & still your rating points drop! 😂😂 Didn’t miss a shot.
agile sphinx
That moment you camp so hard you lose points on a 5k game 🤦♀️
drifting cedar
Well you didnt really earn any xp because well you camped
agile sphinx
"distance traveled: 0.17km" lol that's pathetic
sonic sedge
Definitely I’m getting bad ‘teams’!@drifting cedar & explain this one then!?
drifting cedar
You did more assistance damage like tracking and such
Or are you now showing 2 games with a not so good team? And complaining about it?
sonic sedge
Game I just this minute played!
drifting cedar
Teams like this do happen to EVERYONE some are just better at using them
sonic sedge
Well this was the next battle..There is definitely a pattern 😂😂
undone vortex
The pattern is that you're not good enough? So u can't climb? And now want to use ur teams as a scapegoat? Honestly just get good lol
sonic sedge
@undone vortex yeah yeah
undone vortex
@sonic sedge what's that suppose to prove? Lol
sonic sedge
You wrong, quite easily
undone vortex
I'm sorry but a random screenshot of an ace game shows nothing
agile sphinx
The jagtiger is completely broken now and stupidly easy to play too lol
native marten
bruh I started at 2.7k, around 800 points lower than stevo’s calibration, then only played ratings for about 3 days (around 1 hour each day) and now I’m 1k points ahead lmao
tl;dr ratings isn’t that hard (if you’re aiming for 4k)
bleak crest
Amazing how some guys manage to ignore the pink elephant in the room. Doing 5k damage in a lower tier TD which is supposed to stay hidden and do damage is not good enough. While some 50% wr big spenders are in the diamond league.
lean zenith
Just because the waffle is lower tier doesnt mean anything. It's literally the best tier 9 TD at the moment.
fallen mortar
so now people supporting the game are the bad guys by spending money for somthing they like soo if i transfer that on school the dude that bought a choclate bar before the exam and was better than me was better then me because he had the choclate bar and not because i suck at the subject ?
WT is tech tree and by far the best T9 TD or T92E1 also tech tree and available for everyone soo T10 is pretty much only tech tree and T8 you still have tanks like Tiger II that outperform lots of prem tanks or tanks like ISU that rule with an iron fist and beat the crap out of every tank and in T7 you have JPanther that nukes even high pen tanks from T8 with ease if you know how to play
lime sparrow
u also get a bit more points if u do well in a lower tier tank
median wagon
Not really
Also I found that kill stealing and capping bases is extremely effective for making points lol, hardly any effort
lime sparrow
Not really
That's why I said a bit
I get most of my rating points from dmg farming anyways
native marten
I just play a medium tank
if you can spot 2 guys and get in 3k damage that’s like 40+ points at 4k and below
lime sparrow
too bad i'm stuck at the 4700-5000 mark
median wagon
You know the rating system is broken when you see 40wr guys in diamond league. Typically from spamming stupid tanks
ornate spoke
What the actual f*** is this player doing in ratings, THIS IS RUINING THE GAME!
sonic sedge
How about +80 points plus 5 kills & mastery badge class 1 Whoever mentioned that the WT was good I don’t know where they get that idea from..😂😂
median wagon
@ornate spoke censor the name and send again
ornate spoke
Why all the battle reports are not censored
median wagon
It’s not stat shaming like yours
next gull
Whatever the rating system you will always find people who find a way to use it. It does not mean the system is wrong in general @median wagon
ornate spoke
Im 51.07
median wagon
No, I don’t support those noobs because they ruin the gameplay for others
ornate spoke
@median wagon i am not stat shaming im askin wtf is he/she doing in ratings
median wagon
But you’ll get muted if you don’t censor the name
Yes you are stat shaming that guy, also what are you doing in ratings then?
ornate spoke
@median wagon my point is 106 battles 233 avg damage and in ratings because premium, how are they getting thru the matchmaking
median wagon
Because WG allow them access to the shop, which I really disagree with because they should learn how to play beforehand
ornate spoke
My point is matchmaking is fcked and its going in a ticket
median wagon
It’s not MM’s fault, it doesn’t know what a bad player/broken tank is because it is randomised
ornate spoke
Exactly why mm is broken and needs changing, fyi im 51.07 after 26k is battles
median wagon
It’s not MMs fault for being random
ornate spoke
Mm needs parameters other than just letting anyone in
median wagon
Would you still complain if they were on enemy team?!
next gull
It is named rating
ornate spoke
He was on the enemy team!
worldly anvil
just get to higher ranks
median wagon
You won’t get competent teams in ratings this season, everyone wants the IS-6 fearless and quarantine is keeping everyone in. So a more active player base=more noobs
ornate spoke
next gull
You get the same team as usual, at least in nimber of rated players. There should be more room to separate the players.
median wagon
Bruh double 0
But I’m just warning you if you don’t censor their names, it comes under player shaming and you’d get muted
ornate spoke
On enemy team, i been getting this sht all week and its really starting to irritate me, idgaf about censor
median wagon
No matter what, if we all get rid of noobs the game will be dead
native marten
honestly what I wish would happen is that you needed a tech tree tank researched and bought in order to access deals that include tanks of that their (e.g. a tier 8 tech tree tank for AMX CDC or a tier 10 tech tree tank for Chieftain Mk6)
median wagon
@ornate spoke chill and play another time, don’t play around 9PM because it’s all the kid’s having their last match before bedtime
next gull
It is funny how rating scales with wr, but some still don't understand that whatever the way people are gauged, they always belong to the same level.
ornate spoke
No! If paying players leave the game will be dead, they need to do something so players like this face each other not slightly better players can you imagine the abuse this person gets from his/her teams?
median wagon
If you only get pro teams the game will be worser than with noob teams actually, because then the enemy will have pro teams
next gull
@ornate spoke you mean paying customers face paying customers ?
ornate spoke
Im not talking pro im not pro obv wat i mean is under 1k battles play each other under 5k play each other or something along these lines
median wagon
They shouldn’t be inside of ratings, but you know, WG serve newbies
next gull
Because newbies are the majority of the players
ornate spoke
Players who do not understand the game should stay within there boundaries until they are time served or have better stats, they cannot just allow someone with no understanding into ranked because they bought a premium its not fair
median wagon
Newbies should go through an actual adequate tutorial and the shop should be unlocked later
ornate spoke
Yes anything plz, its so painful to have to play with these people