12/09/2018 you started playing this & you’re not even playing ratings but are commenting in it! This channel is for those that are actually in ratings battles & you are not 🙄
#rating-battles
sonic sedge
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge what does it matter that i started playing in 2018!? I think i should be proud of that! Also let me tell you that the two season where i actually wanted to get to diamond, i got there in about 2-3 days, no stress whatsoever!! Don’t judge me man, i am TRYING to help u!
sonic sedge
You’re judging me! That matching was rubbish,but you’re not commenting on the disparity in ratings points either!
ornate spoke
Well if u can’t deal with players that have more points than you, why are you supposed to get to 4k then?
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke I see you have now met stevo, good luck trying to get him to understand sense 👍
bleak crest
There’s no point playing now for points, at least until the calibration is 90% over. Otherwise it’s just the same as random. It’s perfect to grind credits and xp for the next tank.
ornate spoke
@agile sphinx yep, wish i did not meet him lmao 🤣🤣
sonic sedge
@ornate spoke you started this calling me out! Not me
ornate spoke
i wish i could HELP u, and i am trying to, but you simply REFUSE, i will start playing ratings today too, i HOPE i meet u in a battle, and if i see 1 mistake i will be pissed
sonic sedge
My last battle...The M6 thought it was a good idea to try & cap the base..Others rushed down the lower route instead of staying with heavies!
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke I probably should have warned you more lol, sorry about that 👀😂
@sonic sedge As a little hint, if someone with 4k WN8 offers to help, maybe it's a good idea to accept it instead of taking it personally? And it's definitely a bad idea to keep complaining if you can't take responsibility for your own mistakes, it just makes you look pretty ignorant
ornate spoke
may i ask why are u in this position near the end of the match?
sonic sedge
omg not again 🤦♂️
ornate spoke
im sorry but when i see something wrong i call it out
agile sphinx
@sonic sedge I suggest accepting that maximov makes a lot less mistakes than you and he can help you improve so you should listen to him, or carrying on blindly but keeping it to yourself and not complaining in this channel
bleak crest
Around 90% of tier x battles are lost by the team that loses the first tank. It’s enough to have one team member that does something wrong early on to face overwhelming odds.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest That entirely depends on the player. If you can't keep up a 1:1.5 or higher damage ratio (to compensate for the dead player) then you are going to have to rely on there being another player who can do well, and that is by no means guaranteed. If you can keep up a good DR them you will be much more likely to win even if your team is bad.
sonic sedge
@bleak crest yeah I couldn’t carry that team in a tier 7 when we had an incumbent tier 8 M6 that thought it was a great idea to sit on the cap from the start!
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge that is happening to everyone..
sonic sedge
That’s the first I’ve seen this morning,so err no it’s not & you wouldn’t know as you’re not actually in ratings as yet!@ornate spoke 🤣
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge challenge me
ratings bad
@agile sphinx i gotta meet this man in a game, have u ever seen him?
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge started calibrating, will send the result here
pine falcon
I am placing a bet you calibrate at around 3800
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke Yes ive seen him a few times in theast season (and he plays as you predicted), I doubt I will this season based off both of our calibrations and hopefully you won't see him either
ornate spoke
as I recall, as the season goes on the average calibration goes up
sonic sedge
@agile sphinx you’re special aren’t you!?
ornate spoke
to make it fair i will play different tanks at t10 each game
agile sphinx
@sonic sedge I believe I'm right in saying that unicum came from the Latin for special or something like that, so the correct term would be super special
ornate spoke
i just had the worst experience on mines ever, 4 atgm tanks in the battle, u know the outcome
@sonic sedge
i lost 4 battles and won 6
epicly, last time I calibrated I got 4,4k
yea well i did not spam one OP tank and did not even touch ATGMs
😩 e100 just bring luck
cedar river
@agile sphinx whats your ign mate? :)
@ornate spoke on a little show off roll i see. 😋
ornate spoke
lol
agile sphinx
@cedar river SmileyFish3, have fun trying to find something to criticise
fallen mortar
poor maximov wasting braincells on stevo, hes probably now like 2 years older by trying to help
ornate spoke
@ornate spoke @sonic sedge you two need to chill
@ornate spoke have u read what i have been saying mate? i am simply trying to help this man.
I have
But it's obvious he doesn't want help.
clearly... a bit sad
"You need to know when to fold them, know when to hold them, know when to walk away, and when to run" This is one of those times to walk away.
sonic sedge
I obviously don’t need help either thank you very much....where was this random guy back in 2015 to offer help & to ask me ‘why was your tank there’!? 🙄🤣
When it was +/- two tiers 😬
ripe swift
my point:
hidden prawn
Well I think I lost all my brain cells over that conversation @ornate spoke
ornate spoke
you are not the only one
bleak crest
There should be maximum 1 player calibrating in each team unless all are calibrating. Some team gets 4-5 calibrating players the other 1-2. Clear setup for a 7-0 loss.
cosmic cypress
What if the calibrating players are super unicums 🤔
cold kraken
Rating rewards are getting better and better! I like it. 🙂
cosmic cypress
Yeah releasing the is6 fearless I think is motivating a lot more people to actually try to play ratings now. I like the move a lot and if you’re complaining about that then I dont think WG could ever make you happy
cold kraken
I don't particularly like IS-6, but still...
There's also other things like that currency you will exchange for free xp, prem time etc.
agile sphinx
@bleak crest How is the first game ever going to happen if there's only 1 calibrated person per team? And people in calibration have a temporary rating that isn't displayed but is used in balancing teams
ornate spoke
@agile sphinx masterpiece of a team u got there, now that is what i consider unfair, sorry lol
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke I honourably accept your apology lol I've met the E100 before and he camped in the corner just like he did there
bleak crest
Teams should each have 0, 1, 6 or 7 players calibrating. Then it should be more balanced.
By the way, just saw a clan that requires a win rate of below 40%, some even have 20%. The clan member I met was clearly trying to lose. Nice calibration with him as team mate...
ornate spoke
@agile sphinx just met the e100, camped in the corner again
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke But players like still aren't banned because everyone loves MH 👌
subtle sigil
streaming time on EU
cedar river
Seen some e100s today camping as well, probably taking the personal damage > teamplay a little too serious. :)
pine falcon
I don't know, but I am struggling this season with the rating. I gain it, then I lose it. Normally I am in platinum on the first day but ... idk. Maybe its just me
tacit wedge
Ratings do seem to be tougher so far, MM wise
late mural
Oh we have Stevo the Whiner here again. He doesn't want to improve, or even play the game. Most of all he just wants to complain.
But stevo is a lucky boi, very lucky for not being banned (yet).
ornate spoke
Ah I remember those days when there was a guy who would always call the game rigged, those were the days. Sweet memories
pine falcon
i like how we are all ganging up on stevo
ornate spoke
I would let stevo be and grow for with time he would become even a greater source of entertainment for the upcoming youths of the blitz community
mossy badger
Oh no I ended up at 3.5k yikes
Everytime we won I did under 2k and everytime we lost I did over 3k but yikes I lost so much 😩
Last time I calibrated I only lost one game I was quite a bit overconfident this time around
cursive geyser
Can you change on how rating points are distributed?
Super hts are so useless in ratings cuz while I take all the hit for my team, my teams get all the damage and thus gets higher points.
Similar for tds as well, almost everyone is playing mts or lts, so get spots and even though I support them by doing dmg, tds like grille are useless, cuz I have to stay at very back because even if I stay in open for a second and all the sheriden rushes me.
ornate spoke
yeah don't play heavies that don't do reliable damage every game, just play a soviet med or something, works out great
native marten
lol I just either play a reliable tank or just go check blitzstars see which tank I do good/consistent in and then just play with that tank
ornate spoke
The Rating Battles is Full of Sheridans
tough breach
Ratings waste of time during lockdown. The difference in teams is extreme
ornate spoke
T10 is unplayable because of the Sheridan and E1
next gull
And tier 8 sees T92 too. I have been missiled twice from behind a ridge today.
ornate spoke
Some battles was like a rocket war
cedar river
Doing terrible here. :)
Awful lotta lads that should be at 5k already are still stuck at 3k. Not talking about myself but seen a lot of super unicums struggling even. Guess theres a lot more players this time around thus a lot more better players as well. Not complaining btw.
native marten
I figure I'll just calibrate later on in the season when most people get sorted out since I'm not gonna grind to try to get the is6 fearless stuff
pine falcon
Bruh trust me. Start calibrating now. The longer you wait, the bigger the gap gets (that is if you are aiming for more than 10 pieces of the certificate)
agile sphinx
@pine falcon You missed the "not"
pine falcon
?
cedar river
Uuhm. I had a t62a in my team blocking me the entire time when i was killing this obj 268. Turns out theyre the same clan. Rigging to the max. Is there anywhere one could officially report them other than simply a red thumb?
fallen mortar
the support just send the replay and he gets banned
cedar river
Thanks.
mossy badger
After 2 hours of grinding I can affirm that ratings is the sweatiest it’s been since season 1. Appreciate that WG 👌
pine falcon
^^^^
pulsar crown
why are they closed at nights?
mossy badger
That’s what I don’t like. Hopefully they can fix that bc for me ratings is open from 3-10 and often I’m not available to play
blissful portal
And we can confirm now ratings are more unplayable, amazing the amount of disgusting bots
pulsar crown
that's the occasion to deal way more dmg and never lose points cause you'll be top damage every time ^^ @blissful portal
blissful portal
Ik that happens more at platinum or diamond i always start rating and ina few days i reach platinum easily now i cant even pass 3.5k although i always have to carry nubs
7 loses in a row and keep counting
pine falcon
Play tier 8. Its a smooth ride there
twin current
you know what they say, you win some you lose many
native marten
I played ratings battles, 2 matches, don’t do it, teams are absolutely horrible, it becomes a 1v13 game
You literally have this happening
- dude yolos first minute
- you tell your team to hold position, they don’t and now it’s 3v7
- you can’t win because all the enemies are full HP and 5 guys did 0 damage
by 1v13 I don’t mean like literally destroying your teammates but it feels like your team is legit just trying to lose
Also, there’s people who can’t even tell the difference between left and right, like they’ll be like “go L nvm go R” and then they start spamming “go R” while going left and then they call out the team for going right
fossil root
Smells like literally everyday in blitz
native marten
here’s a summary of right now:
2:3 (win:loss)
tier 7 games: like tier 8, except you’re in a tier 7 tank
tier 8 games looks like this: 1 guy afk (could be your team, could be enemy’s, but WHY) and half the people have about 500 battles total and jumped into a tier 8 premium. great
tier 9: you either get slapped by tier 10s or deal with the mess called tier 8 games (that’s not to say you have no impact in tier 10, but you’re dealing with uptiered tanks, so just be careful)
and last but not least, tier 10:
the players are fine, only bad thing is you just have 4 Sheridans every game
mossy badger
Idk man ratings seems pretty balanced other than missile tanks - I’ve played the E1 a few times and it’s quite nasty
Other than that ratings as a whole is better than the joke fest ratings has been for the last 7 or so seasons
wise minnow
I have a question pertaining to the current Event.
Are Twitch Streamers allowed to participate?
Or is this solely just for Youtube content creators?
subtle sigil
these curfews are killing me when i stream on different regions of the world
bleak crest
Tier 8 is the worst in ratings right now. Better tier x, at least being top tier solves some issues.
thick stirrup
whoops
sonic sedge
and this is why the points scoring system needs changing! So random players that are put on your team can’t drag ‘your ratings’ points down!!
bleak cliff
Ahahaha no
ornate spoke
you refuse to budge and it is funny
bleak cliff
If you do well, like that you lose minimal points, if you completely carry then yes earn somebut not many points
ornate spoke
carry harder
pine falcon
@sonic sedge sooo when you had 2.9K rating you were complaining about not winning. Now that you are 3.5K you still complain about not winning but you also blame the team GG
sonic sedge
@pine falcon 🙄
bleak crest
7 points is hardly a loss at 3.5 k rating. 20-30 points on wins are common. This example is far from worse. I got those with 2-3 doing 0 damage but I’m not bothering to blur their names, they are not worth it to be honest based on their effort in the battle 🤣🤣🤣
lone thistle
Goddam game not connecting, keeps saying synchronising data then connecting then synchronising data and so on and has been doing this for 10 minutes. That’s already 2 games missed smh
sonic sedge
This is what I get on my losing team of random players! Sat at spawn all battle,so down goes ‘my’ rating yet again! Hope you like the pretty colours at the bottom 😂😂
pulsar crown
i'me never defending blitz normally, but if there are bad teams with you, there are bad teams against you, but the human never see the good things, it always remember the slightly annoying things :/, in a high number of battles, the number of noob teams in both sides will be balanced, while in a smaller number of batlles, you can find unbalanced games in a row :/
sinful dew
@pulsar crown noobs balancing each others is a nice approach 😂
pulsar crown
xD
ornate spoke
i'll see y'all at the top 👀
wind moonBOT
mello no#1362 has been warned.
mossy badger
@ornate spoke ggs, too bad there’s a curfew for ratings which I really don’t understand
ornate spoke
Because then someone can no life it all day and spam
mossy badger
heh who would do that heh?
wind moonBOT
Nicolas1017#3971 was muted
novel talon
1win, 1lose : always + rank point
Then anyone can be #1 on server, even though his skills are not special.
I dont know why thr rank battle exist if someone player over 1000 battles per one month
sudden salmon
Does anyone also experience a lot of server lag?
I was having a game where everything frozw, while wifi and ping was perfectly alright, so cab i get somehow my points back?
ornate spoke
I'm platinum right now. I'm shooting for diamond. Im only playing my IS-4
cedar river
Meh too many occasions in which atgms can just pick off our entire team.
Or the other way around. Either situations ruled by atgms.
mossy badger
Be a dirty b- and spam tier 7 and 8 then lol
ornate spoke
How many days does it take for your rating to reset and male you do calibration?
the season ends on the last day of the month and begins on the fifth day of each month
cedar river
Except this season is 2 months long
ornate spoke
Not this one
pine falcon
It is 2 months
ornate spoke
No its not...
pine falcon
every spring season the rating gets prolonged for a month. If you want confirmation for this, look at your avatars timer
ornate spoke
Not the ratings season @pine falcon
pine falcon
"From April 5 to May 31" Literally written in the news. Please stop arguing and look things up
normal garnet
Why are there people who seem to not speak English in battle, but are fluent in insulting me and my family in every way shape or form? I make the call at the beginning of the battle, they don’t listen and die, and I seem to think they don’t know English because they can’t seem to understand, but then they explode at ME for being a noob and making a bad call when they suicide on purpose
Fix this. There are trolls in ratings too. They just go AFK at the start of battles, and I keep getting the same ones in my games. I’ve starred about 8 replays
mossy badger
@normal garnet I mean the AFK trolls r in any game, the best u can do is to just stop playing for a while and take a break
normal garnet
@mossy badger yes, I did that. I’ll come back tomorrow, hopefully it will be better
mossy badger
🙂
ornate spoke
@pine falcon you're right my bad
keen ingot
bleak cliff
8 hours
ornate spoke
Until May 31st
frank sage
It should b ez getting to diamond for a lot of ppl since season ends on may 31.
novel talon
Look at this guy.
Not even winrate is over 50% but his rank point?
sonic sedge
It’s become quite apparent in the so called ‘evenly matched battles’ that when one random team of players have more that are still calibrating then that team invariably loses, the same goes (again most of the time) when there is a large ratings points discrepancy between the players/teams, the team with the higher overall ratings points win!
My summing up of the battles so far this morning..
I mean, one battle we even had a Chi-Ri on our team of random players 🤦♂️ c’mon who uses one of them in ratings & he got wiped out in the first 30 seconds!
bleak cliff
Stop complaining. No one cares
And it's the start of the season so expect for EVERYONE to be calibrating
sonic sedge
@bleak cliff Grow up, I’m not complaining, if you read the post properly it’s an observation! 🙄
bleak cliff
Ah yes I'm the one needing to grow up when you come here weekly to speak you opinion
sonic sedge
👍
glossy raptor
Daily*
fallen mortar
Chi Ri is a good tank wtf is he talking about i used it in ranked before and BP has little to no armor against T8 heavys since you cant angle that flat plate and also the pen isnt that high
pine falcon
God.... I am struggling this season. 200+ battles haven't crossed the 4.4 line yet... Also I have noticed this, one season I do really well in one particular tank, lets say T62A, but the next I just get obliterated in it.
bleak crest
It’s better not to invest too many battles early on and wait for things to settle down. I do x2 on the fly.
cedar river
Well ive gone up 1600 points since start lol, now struggles will start to come. 😬
glossy raptor
Sevik thats because all the noobs who want the fearless this season
tacit wedge
I am doing ok currently, not amazing, but ok - I am happy with where I am at the moment 🙂
sonic sedge
@glossy raptor I mentioned that would happen at the start of this round of ratings debacle 🤣
@fallen mortar less of the swearing please!
mossy badger
3.4–> 3.8k now grind
fallen mortar
how about no ? or lets say i swear less if you cry less about your teammates ? Everyone has the same teammates and still people get up to 6 or even 7k rating
mossy badger
@fallen mortar dude that’s the guy who complains about ratings on a daily basis lmao
fallen mortar
dude i know that i´ve been messing with him quite some time
by now he´s just a huge meme inside of the ranked channel
mossy badger
heh
sonic sedge
Chi Ri is a good tank wtf is he talking about i used it in ranked before and BP has little to no armor against T8 heavys since you cant angle that flat plate and also the pen isnt that high
@fallen mortar ☝️ swearing is not allowed or abbreviations of, EVER! Grow up!
Also unless you live in the U.S it’s ‘armour’! Seeing as the U.S didn’t even invent armour..Also the BP can be angled against attack from tier 8’s, if you’ve ever played it you would know!
untold loom
bruh
fallen mortar
played it and not really, unless someone is shooting your turret which is pennable aswell, if you had above 1,4k WN8 you would know and i played BP but not on my main acc. Should i tell you something funny crying about MM is something that isnt allowed aswell
cosmic cypress
Imagine telling someone to grow up Bc they used the abbreviation “wtf”
Oh no you got a bad team the world is now ending
K
fallen mortar
i feel like stevo has some name and shame there
cosmic cypress
Yep. And he’s complaining about MM
fallen mortar
This channel is not to complain about match making
IRaik 21.01.2019
pine falcon
@glossy raptor if by "noobs" you mean a sh*t tone of pro players, then yeah.
cedar river
@pine falcon I mean theyre on your team as well right :)
pine falcon
@cedar river true, but they steal my damage 😂 😭
sonic sedge
So the enemy players had two tank destroyers & the same number of heavies as my random selected players...So no it’s not ‘my personal rating’! There was also no wait to get into battle..Fifth loss in a row now.
cosmic cypress
U also did 1300 in a very strong td
pine falcon
^^^ that. Also the queues for you are instant because your rating is low.
sonic sedge
@cosmic cypress you rely on your ‘team’ with a td.,& as you can see two scored zero! I was nearly at 3600 ratings points but now have lost nearly 400, go figure why I’m not on the winning ‘team’ now! Possibly around 7 losses in a row & I don’t miss my shots & don’t score zero!
pine falcon
Guess what, I have lost 400 points on occasions too. But I brush it off and manage to get them back. Also if you are losing 5 or more battles in a row it would be better if you stop playing
Stevo, you are nothing more than a sore loser. When your team averages 60%wr and you completely destroy a 45%wr team you, don't say anything - you don't complain, you don't post screenshots even though it is clear the matchmaker goofed up. However when the enemy team averages 60%wr and your team averages 45%wr and you get rekt, you start meaning, complaining and overall become a crybaby because "MaTCmakInG iS UnFAiR". Just please stop with your nonsense. In addition to this, you are like a flat-earther: you deny all reason or common sense, and wander off into your own universe, which is full illusions. Almost everybody active in this chat is against you. And also considering how you act and the types of messages you say, you probably don't have the age to be on discord.
sonic sedge
As I mentioned above, the random players team that are still calibrating against a team that already has invariably loses..& I’m not the only one to have noticed this!
@pine falcon I don’t miss 4 out of 6 shots like you did in tier 10! EVER 🤦♂️
pine falcon
xD that was a single battle. And as it currently stands I got 1K points above you.
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge this isn't your matchmaking complaint channel
cosmic cypress
@sonic sedge you don’t have to “rely on your team” to be able to do over 1300. Even if you did get unlucky, don’t try to go blaming the team
pine falcon
Also I just want to say that I have done 6K damage games where I fired 80% of my entire ammo capacity and resulted in a win. So what is your point?
ornate spoke
Guys we aren't stat shaming here
pine falcon
@ornate spoke I know it is not allowed but trust me, you have not seen the full scale of the things that have gone down here
ornate spoke
Well let's end it here. This isn't going to be his matchmaking whine channel and it's not going to be a stat shaming channel either
ornate spoke
Teams are the worst today guys,, Don't play.
@ornate spoke that's like saying water is wet today.
XD
havent made progress for over 3 hrs 😄 @ornate spoke
eager socket
Hi all! check out my topic at wot blitz forum about sheridan and t92e1 at rating Battles here is the link.
http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/53700-remove-sheridan-and-t92e1-at-rating-battles-and-nerf-them/
bleak crest
I was winning in the t92e1 a lot last season now it's the opposite. Can't pen wz120 on the side and missing a lot of shots. I'm not even playing it in random anymore.
cedar river
@bleak crest more better players around this season, and tbh, Im happy you dont do wel in it. The rockets really dictate a lot of battles. :v
I also think its funny how stevo is immune to the whole player shaming of others when he posts a picture without hiding any names at all lol.
ornate spoke
Cancracker is the matchmaking still rigged?
sonic sedge
@cedar river I wasn’t ‘player shaming’ though, I mentioned nothing derogatory about the players just screen shots of the results! Just confirming what I & a few others already think!
cedar river
Hmm, I got called out for that more often than not.
bleak crest
I wasn’t using a lot of rockets anyways but I’m forced to use now, @cedar river
cedar river
@bleak crest orrrrrr you just use another tank 😁
agile sphinx
@bleak crest Apparently you are forced to camp in a T54 and do 0 damage as well 🤔
fossil moth
why change rank mm when you can remove missiles so players stop playing lights liek they are doing now xd
sharp frigate
Could there be a change for the max number of TDs as well (down to 2 from 3)? Since 3 TD matches especially on maps like castilla or dead rail result in long and boring matches since you cannot peek without getting hit by a TD and nor can the enemy so both teams just camp and wait for one side to make a mistake...
agile sphinx
What about the max number of heavies too? Maybe from 7 down to 4 just to prevent the absolutely terrible games with 5 heavies per team?
fallen mortar
5 heavy matches with TDs and without Meds or lights is just a camping mess
patent pier
What about the max number of heavies too? Maybe from 7 down to 4 just to prevent the absolutely terrible games with 5 heavies per team?
@agile sphinx how often do you get into 7 heavies vs 7 heavies battles?
fallen mortar
i havent got a single 7 v 7 heavy battle tbh
patent pier
Could there be a change for the max number of TDs as well (down to 2 from 3)? Since 3 TD matches especially on maps like castilla or dead rail result in long and boring matches since you cannot peek without getting hit by a TD and nor can the enemy so both teams just camp and wait for one side to make a mistake...
@sharp frigate
every limit makes harder to former teams for MM. Especially on servers with lower numbers of players.
agile sphinx
@patent pier Thankfully almost never, but even at higher ratings where lights and meds are a better option because of higher skill caps 5 heavy games are still there fairly regularly. Even 4 heavy games are too much really but small changes help a lot
Also I very rarely see 3v3 lights too
fallen mortar
as soon as its a T9/10 the chances of 3 v 3 lights is kinda high due to T92E1 and Sheridan beeing played a lot as far as i experienced
bleak crest
I had a great team as a low tier, no shots went in in spite of what the hit skin showed. @agile sphinx . What is you in game name so I know who I'm talking to?
agile sphinx
Most of my games are 2v2 lights, 3 is a rarity from my experience.
@bleak crest One of your two shots hit and did 0 damage while you were camping, you realise that there are other things you can do as a low tier too? Also it isn't that hard to figure out who I am, use your brain it should be good exercise for it
bleak crest
I dont know what battle are we talking about. I lost 3 in a row in t54, so there are 39 players to choose from
agile sphinx
If you camp that often in a T54 then you should be ashamed of yourself, but it was on mines to clear that up for you
bleak crest
So now we talk 13. You probably did pretty well yourself especially if you were on my team.
agile sphinx
Now you use your detective skills and look at my username
pine falcon
I met cancracer today on Normandy. The first minute he camped, then he flanked and died. But he did his 1.6K dmg so I am not bashing him. The RHM lost everything.
glossy raptor
Question about the is6 fearless. You get 10 certificates for coming to diamond league but if you do this this season and the next you will only have 20 of 100. Aint that just useless since you cant get 90 by anything or will you be able to collect certificates for all seasons in the future?
pine falcon
"Starting from Spring Season". I assume it means that from now on, every season you finish in diamond league you get the corresponding parts of the certificate
glossy raptor
But it says in an other text that you can obtain these certificates in this and the next season
pine falcon
where? Can you show me? @glossy raptor
glossy raptor
fleet sinew
Good idea to recalibrate matchmaking. But please not only by light tanks. If a team had 2x is4 / 1x is7 / 1x JgE100 / 1x Obj 704 and 2 Medium Tanks and it will be matched against a team witch had 1x Amx 50 B / 2x Tier 9 Heavys / 1x Obj 268 / 2x Tier 9 Tds and one medium tank. There is no way to win this game. This is also a stupid MM.
pine falcon
Hmmm. We should ask for confirmation.
@patent pier Will the parts for the IS6 Fearless certificate be available from now on, for every rating season, or is it just for this season and the next?
muted shuttle
Good question
glossy raptor
Thanks Sevik
patent pier
@patent pier Will the parts for the IS6 Fearless certificate be available from now on, for every rating season, or is it just for this season and the next?
@pine falcon it will last longer than this season and next one, don't worry. There will be enough time to get the tank if you can get to the diamond league.
pine falcon
Thanks. 👍
mossy badger
Is there still a need to limit queue sessions? Idk how it affects the demographics of ratings but I know at least for me it prevents me from playing ratings almost at all.
bleak crest
Again lots of players calibrating so it’s impossible to play
cursive geyser
Can someone tell me how ratings points are distributed to all classes of tanks?
bleak crest
Ratings is broken, no doubt there’s some experiment going on.
fallen mortar
so how about you start giving reason and put arguments in here why they are true
wind moonBOT
sir im out#1362 was muted
mossy badger
are people having global packet losses in ratings games
little heron
you have a problem with the MM!! This battle should be perfectly balanced (3595-3591). Seeing this type of ranked battle result demonstrates the problem you don't want to solve with your MM. All battles, all modes combined, too often end in these results. Don't change anything you're geniuses.
bleak crest
And to top it all off there are again bounces on weak spots, no damage on fully aimed shots and the enemy scores hits on the move with derpy guns. Just not worth playing when these things happen.
agile sphinx
@little heron Read the pinned messages
@bleak crest That isn't anything to do with ratings at all and so it doesn't belong in this channel
bleak crest
It has because it just shows it’s not different to random as in it has the same flaws that bug it for years.
agile sphinx
Funnily enough because it's the same game you are still going to have RNG that affects everyone (yes even people who camp spawn in meds) and that isn't anything to do with rating battles. That means your complaint doesn't belong in this channel.
thorn portal
does caping bases bring more points in ratings ?
thorn portal
okey nice
eager belfry
😋
sonic sedge
Only cap bases if it’s supremacy in ratings, don’t sit on the cap if its not & hope to win, it hardly ever works...& don’t do it if you’re in an Rhm (supposed to support the team) like someone did on my team of randoms the other day 🤦♂️ Still lost.
native marten
hey guys, news flash, turns out you shouldn’t drive an rhm frontline
mossy badger
How long will it take for some people to realize that matchmaking is based on the people; if someone of you aren’t apes or spending your entire time whining about a pointless topic then there wouldn’t be games that end up like that often 🙂
ornate spoke
@mossy badger forever. Some folks will never realize this.
mossy badger
:/
ornate spoke
It is much easier to blame others for a loss then it is to take accountability for what you as an individual could have done better. Why learn from your mistakes when you can just pawn them off on someone else?
mossy badger
very great idea
ornate spoke
Sadly it's not an original idea. It's been going on for as long as I've been playing.
cosmic cypress
Well said
bleak crest
If I do top damage in a low tier tank how can the loss be my fault? It’s just ridiculous. If the 2-3 tanks die in the first minute there’s nothing one can do to win unless the others don’t rush but it doesn’t depend on the player anymore.
ornate spoke
Something can be learned from even the worst games.
bleak crest
Yes, not to help certain type of players 🤣🤣🤣
sonic sedge
Nothing can be learned from ‘even the worst games’, only that some pawns instead of Queens were put on your board on your side! There should be a separate calibration mode for players that have not calibrated yet, having just been in a battle where our IS3 Defender fired 3 shots was calibrating & only ONE hit it’s target!!
Yeah ratings is supposed to be a players ‘personal rating’,which it so isn’t!
It would be easier if there were a mission to ‘lose 3 ratings battles’ as I would have done that by now, having only played 3 ratings battles today with a tier 7 🤣
native marten
help this stevo
if you can learn nothing from "even the worst games" then you should be winning if you're really performing that good
fallen mortar
and you abuse this channel by whining here 24/7
and the term i used kinda fits since you say you dont learn from even the worst battles and you cant seem to have any kind of common sense and btw im not the only one noticing this
cosmic cypress
What Spartacus said is right, even in the games where you did everything “perfect”, there will always be something you can do a fraction better. If you can’t see flaws in yourself than there’s nothing that can help you
fallen mortar
talking to our god stevo is literally a waste of time since he has no flaws his reactions are instant and everyone saying something different is a troll
sonic sedge
Be kind,be nice, do NOT abuse others!
mossy badger
single priviledged mom who wants to call the manager
rough gorge
Amazing mm
Im not as good as these guys, so why tf do you have to put me against a team full of them... I cant go up points if your mm has players all higher winrate + higher rating and higher skill than me against me.
mossy badger
uh wait a sec if you know you're not as good do you logically expect to have the same amount of points as them
mossy badger
ah i see
ornate spoke
Folks if you resort to insulting each other I'll be forced to mute you. I'd rather not.
blissful fractal
Thankyoubro
ornate spoke
@sonic sedge There is something to be learned from every single game you play. Win or lose. What you choose to learn is on you but to say that there is nothing to learn is a flat out lie. You are doing yourself a injustice if you refuse to learn both from your mistakes and those of others.
On that note this is not your channel to complain about matchmaking. It needs to stop.
bleak crest
Yes, on the EU servers too, I made up all the losses
ornate spoke
good to hear 😄
native marten
okay yeah ik I calibrated pretty heckling low but rn ratings is doin good
I calibrated 2.7k (the lowest I've ever done) but reckon by tomorrow I can hit 4k easy
the MM feels a bit weird since most of the games were like 7-3 or so when the team's average rating was like 3.5k but once you hit like 4k average teams it starts to get closer, so that's an improvement
cedar river
Why would you even look at that.... the team that loses one or two tanks first is likely to lose and also more likely to lose 7-3(or less). If the other team plays a little decent that is.
native marten
you’d be surprised at the amount of games you can turn around even if you start off at a 5v7 as long as your teammates stay calm
feels like teams mainly lose after they lose like one or two guys and then their team just 1 by 1 makes yolo plays
frank sage
First 7! Yay!!! Lol
mossy badger
Wow even in ratings too congrats
frank sage
@mossy badger ty
balmy hollow
Nice one 👍
hidden prawn
Oof well done @frank sage
frank sage
@balmy hollow @hidden prawn ty, I put it on my YT.
The Beast.
fallen mortar
Unless it's some insane super unicum I won't watch it 😂
hidden prawn
Oof
median wagon
Trash, full of noobs who want the IS6 fearless
sleek phoenix
Lol
hidden prawn
I played horrible today lost nearly 100 points should have just stopped while I was a head but no I had to keep playing
ornate spoke
Guys hows the ratings teams today in NA server?
mossy badger
@hidden prawn sounds like gambling
ornate spoke
teams were pretty good today tbh
ocean dome
@ornate spoke noice jk buddy,you've achieved comedy
ornate spoke
? my rating went from 4.8k to 5k today @ocean dome
hidden prawn
Yeah playing ratings is quite like gambling @mossy badger
novel kraken
native marten
lmao in ratings I just try to get around 100 points a day (I’m planning on stopping like a bit past 4k), and if I lose 100 points then I stop for the day
cedar river
Why would you stop after 4k :o
ornate spoke
Teams are bs today guys-- dont play.
median wagon
Irritating amount of progetto 46s with their pew pew guns...
native marten
because the 5k camo usually drops to 4k at some point, so I figure I'd rather just wait a few extra months for something that I'll eventually get
pale parrot
Does this include professional camos?
pine falcon
@patent pier ^^^ the question above needs your answer. xD
pale parrot
Lol
pine falcon
Nice catch btw.
pale parrot
Thx
native marten
Can this mode make it obligatory to run full provisions + equipment + camo? It sorta doesn’t help anyone when some dude wanted to save credits and decided it’s too expensive to just buy freaking provisions or something
fallen mortar
id support that
pine falcon
I don't run provisions on most tanks (except tanks which are really bad). The bonus is so little that there is no point in using it
mossy badger
Then again, there’s no harm really for running it anyways
mossy badger
2017 😩
fallen mortar
I run provisions on everything because im using everything to its full potential
carmine cedar
how long does the rating season lasts?
can anyone tell me how long does the rating season lasts?
native marten
It’s just that I feel like everyone should be running provisions and camo and full equipment in this mode is that it doesn’t really hurt to have like 100 more HP or have a more accurate gun, since it’ll benefit you in every battle
pine falcon
equipment, yes. But provisions don't do much...
median zenith
Provisions do a lot, especially for view range. They really should be running them.
restive dawn
Someone aint running full equipped tank?
fallen mortar
10% Extra is quite a lot imo
pine falcon
provisions are poo poo imo.
fallen mortar
12% for both together is lots 3k to 3,3k dpm is one shot more in a min and that changes much imo
cedar river
Why wouldnt you prepare your tank to its full potential.... you had 19 mil credits to throw at this passive event for 22k free exp and some gold but too greedy to purchase provisions lol. 🤔
cosmic cypress
I mean any advantage is an advantage no matter how small
pine falcon
bruh, 3 meters more view range won't do anything.
cosmic cypress
But like why not have that extra 3 meters
pine falcon
because why spend 2K+ credits for something that rarely helps. I may be wrong but 10K credits for each battle just to resupply something that give you a very little
drifting cedar
Food makes your tank basically 10% better and the smaller food makes everything 3% better
native marten
But if the stuff only helps and doesn't hurt, then why not run it if it'll just improve your performance?
drifting cedar
And credits are easy to grind if it becomes a problem
brazen imp
@pine falcon @pale parrot what channel is this in?
mossy badger
@brazen imp RBM steaming thing, it’s for you tubers tho
pale parrot
brazen imp
oh ok, thanks
pale parrot
Np
normal garnet
Lol, imagine they give away pro camo for free 🤡
cosmic cypress
I dont think WG is that dumb
pine falcon
@muted shuttle well it say all cammos, and professional cammos are... well cammos. So either 1) The professional cammos are obtainable and they don't have to do anything or 2) They need to clarify and edit the post to mark that the prof. camos are not available
muted shuttle
Or they guess that normal person has enough brain cells not to think that you can get pro camo just like that )
pine falcon
it falls under false advertising then
It is like saying: "With buying this you get all the guns for the specific character" but in reality you don't get all
muted shuttle
Mate, do you seriously think they would give out prof camos for free in some random contest?
pine falcon
You never know. But anyways I would like it to be clarified as if not it can literally be false advertising. I got nothing against it not including professional or that cammo R2K got for the most liked clan.
muted shuttle
@pine falcon I would love to see that camo return
pine falcon
it is probably the best cammo out there. Z1RD runs it on his e5 in rating and I meet almost every battle and makes me jealous.
cedar river
Do you have a picture please. :)
muted shuttle
@marsh frost Could you please post a screenshot of your camo on most of your tanks?
marsh frost
Why?
patent tree
kek
marsh frost
@muted shuttle
cedar river
Ah now that looks gorgeous indeed. Thanks @muted shuttle :)
marsh frost
Next time don’t chat ban me (: @muted shuttle
muted shuttle
@marsh frost Who has told you such a lie? ))
marsh frost
I will stop being toxic when you start playing better (((
muted shuttle
@marsh frost We could have won that one together
Other then that, I'm not that bad )
normal garnet
@muted shuttle that’s the twister offline camo. Am pretty sure about 10-20 people on each server have it
muted shuttle
@normal garnet It was given out only to the clan that received the most votes
normal garnet
Ye
muted shuttle
I don't know what you mean by the twister offline camo, because not everyone who's been to offlines has it
I haven't said I don't know where it's from though
normal garnet
@muted shuttle that was another thing that was in my head, I’m mistaken.
muted shuttle
There are only those 2
Pro camos and this one
But yeah, sorry if I said something incorrectly
marsh frost
9 on EU has it, nothing to do with twister offline.
pseudo heart
^
It was the fan camo, only the Clan with the most votes got it, which was R2K at the time
ivory pike
HEY GUYS
Do we gona get certifcet for is 6 fearless in end of this month?
Or we gona get it in may's End
pine falcon
end of may, because that is when the season ends
nocturne mountain
RGN has that special camo i think, so i suppose it is not exclusive to R2K
pale parrot
@muted shuttle Can you get rating battle camos? Like when you finish in diamond and platinum league?
muted shuttle
@nocturne mountain No one ever said that
@muted shuttle Can you get rating battle camos? Like when you finish in diamond and platinum league?
@pale parrot No, why would you. You have to earn those
pale parrot
Well, it says "any camo"
muted shuttle
facepalm
nocturne mountain
im just saying that i think i have seen some rgn guys with that camo, did not know where it came from and looks like it came from a vote so now i know
pale parrot
What? It's "any camo".
muted shuttle
But not prof and rating, why would you even want the ratings camo
jagged dirge
@nocturne mountain they have that camo, since they were 2018 ex pramo when they won the competition.
nocturne mountain
ah, thanks for clarifying
low sandal
Any idea when we will receive the gold for rbc_march? @patent pier
pine falcon
@nocturne mountain every served has 9 players with such a cammo
cedar river
Ez to explain, u left the game in a battle inbetween those. Don't fool us will you. :)
patent tree
Won the 1st, lost the 2nd game but lost the info, won the 3rd game
Simple
pine falcon
@cedar river no, these are literally back to back, in one session
patent tree
hm, well. That's weird.
pale parrot
Maybe the ^(Number) is how much you gained from when you left the day before. So maybe you earned 11 in the past few while you earned 2 in your most recent one.
native marten
that's not the case, both of those are in the same hour, only around 7 minutes apart, which is pretty much the queue time + battle time
wind moonBOT
ohen779[CD-CZ]#7693 has been warned.
bleak crest
And after?
pine falcon
As @native marten said, they are literally 7 minutes apart back to back. (Screenshot of both battles bellow)
void gate
hi
crisp rapids
rip hulldown
cedar river
@crisp rapids yes stupid isnt it, all professionals are complaining about atgms in #tourneys-discussion rn too
Nop lol clear as hell, nobody likes them in competitive game modes
crisp rapids
@cedar river y u think im here?
bleak crest
Probably some server error and they didn’t count the battle with 11 points @pine falcon
cedar river
Why are people like they are. I nearly got a kolobanovs with 4.5k dmg in ratings but last one was a sheri that survived with 10 hp as he just ran away and hid the last minute. What wouldve been an acing win is now a draw. 🙄
pine falcon
there is a big difference if you lose with 3K dmg and if you draw with 3K dmg. In the draw situation you will probably gain like 5-8 points or only lose a few. but on the loss situation you will lose like 10. So the sheridan just wanted it for his rating
prime karma
rustic needle
@scarlet fox F
cursive geyser
Yeah asia also got it
rustic wagon
dont forget you can edit your message!
near pewter
@desert pollen language is against the rules
I’ll pretend I didn’t see your last comment
pine falcon
Currently the channel with the lowest slowmode
full jetty
I completely forgot about ratings with all this commotion
autumn shadow
yay 30sec cooldown here
rich schooner
Oh that better
sonic plover
Lol
jagged dirge
lol
rich schooner
Blitz memes has a 5 hour cooldown
ornate spoke
u mean 6 hours
ornate spoke
I think cos ppl like me roited anginest ATGM
ornate spoke
me to
soft yacht
rating battles more like premium tank battles
why some servers have 15 min chat cooldown
this has 30 second cooldown
fast atlas
Because no one talks shit in this server
autumn shadow
I like ur name @fast atlas
fast atlas
XD thank you
viscid flax
Testing cool down
O dam 30s
ornate spoke
30s is great
viscid flax
I mean compared to 6 flipping hours in #blitz-memes is flipping awesome
ornate spoke
ya
safe wolf
Blitz memes 5 hour cooldown?
viscid flax
6hr now
fading stump
o
rich schooner
Ye
viscid flax
Watch this also be 15m lol
rich schooner
No I hope that doesn’t happen
pallid arch
Can we talk about the t92 spam in ratings?
rich schooner
I’ve only played rating 4 times in my 18k battles
quick light
@pallid arch isnt it fun? also tier 10 is rly playable with all thos sheridans driving around, so much fun
formal steeple
delete ATGM
cedar river
Played 10 today, got ammoracked once in my type 59, once in my t 45 rudy and once in my wz 113. This is unfair nonsense. Fix it. 😤
quartz aspen
Lol I saw a T92E1 got ammo racked in the first 20 seconds of a ratings game
scarlet tree
fix the matchmaking
glacial junco
Yo I have a matchmaker improvement suggesstion! How about balance teams above 4500 rating by the amount of atgm vehicles brought to the battle. I mean, statistically, setups will remain quite similar, because good players take vehicles from a very limited list of mediums, tds AND THOSE DUCKING SHERIDANS. Sorry, i think i lost my temper for a second here, but im alright now. But back to the topic- every vehicle type has its “natural predator”, russian meds cancel tds, british heavies delete russian meds, etc. But after the addition of american t9 and 10 light tanks, the balance has shifted a little. My point is that those tanks can peek-a-boo every single medium tank, easily deal with 90% of the players in 90% of the tank destroyers AND destroy the heavy tanks with their premium rounds. These vehicles just dont need rockets to be successful. You see, i didnt grind the stb-1 to get hit for 490 damage every 15 seconds while im trying to hold a ridge on middleburg against enemy player in a t110e5 in 4672 team rating match. Hopefully, this message will be read by someone, who can understand my (although im certain, there are more people out there, who would agree) frustration and has the power to actually influence the game balance.
autumn shadow
I wasnt the only pasta
wind moonBOT
NumberGuan#0860 was muted
mossy badger
Honestly you can just isolate missile tanks so there’s only 1 per team or there have to be an even number of them on each team
robust void
no, there's no room for those in blitz
ornate spoke
^
bleak crest
Play as a team and defeat them. It’s not that hard.
ornate spoke
play as a team with trash team mates? yea not hard at all
sonic plover
@ornate spoke maybe if you had a decent rating you wouldn't play with bad teammates
ornate spoke
4750 is decent but I still encounter them
drifting cedar
Well there arw the times when you have 4.8k points and the team average is 3.6k... It happens quite alot to me specially in the last season
ornate spoke
^this, like you shouldn't be facing players with 1.5k rating less than you
bleak crest
So players with lower rating don’t drive atgm?
desert wave
Remove missiles and remove all premium tanks from rating. Then it'll be an equal battle.
haughty warren
Need platoon
late mural
Remove missiles and remove all premium tanks from rating. Then it'll be an equal battle.
@desert wave Missile mechanic could be fixed, and premium tanks could be balanced, but WG is too stupid and stubborn to do either. So I have to agree with you.
lime tinsel
lmao @desert wave you know the guy in first? that Vova guy? If you check his ratings thing out, all he plays is premiums or rocket tanks.
dim gale
Ranked battles are just broken, everyone just spams missiles
lime tinsel
except me
lime sparrow
Wish I could play ratings but my WiFis been doodoo
silver acorn
i met two players literary named Player in my team with no clan who just rushed into the enemy and died and the enemies had all clans mixed what is this mm in tier 8 ratings
ornate spoke
Tier 8 ratings have been just awful the last few weeks i usually rank somewhere halfway in gold league and finish higher, now i struggle to stay in, BAN all players below 50% with green or lower stars, everytime i lose i see these players on my team im usually top damage by atleast 1k with team mates doing 0-900 dmg. WG get ready for some replays!
runic whale
If u can’t go up and u playing t8 ratings, that gonna be ur fault. Yes there are bad players, but they will be on both teams, meaning yeah u won’t get support, but u don’t need support if u farm damage off the other team from a safe position (not camping though)
ornate spoke
Mate i understand what you are saying but in tier 8 its not possible to do all the damages, if 1-2 players on my team are sat in the open getting drilled theres only so much you can do, there should be a higher standard in ratings or even a qualification to be able play in ratings make it more of a competition to get in if you dont make the cut try harder. I have replays of some really awful play honestly it is unreal, when players that are bad notice that they lose win rate they go to ratings. I did it myself for a while until i improved, this isnt what ratings are for.
bleak crest
Another example on how the points system is not rewarding enough and then the matchmaking on top of that. We had 1 med while reds have 2 and a light. Why not exchange the IS4 for the t62?
low sandal
@bleak crest the lower your rating the more points you loose or gain. So 13 point lost at 3.8k ratings is basically nothing
bleak crest
Not if it gets on and on like that battle after battle
terse sapphire
Rating battles have become a joke missile being fired from left and right
Imagine going to spot and getting shot my two missiles 10 seconds into the battle
I lose all my willpower to fight anymore
And nowadays it feels like.. every noob in the game with a sheridan or e1 has learned to use missiles
bleak crest
pine falcon
an for those 2 missiles missed, there were probably another 4 that penned.
dreamy shale
I'm confused what they consider top modules. I can enter rating battles with tanks that don't have the top guns researched. Any clarification on this please?
pine falcon
@dreamy shale there are some tanks which have several guns able to be used in rating. Like the SU 152 has the 152 mm and the fast firing gun allowed. I believe lttb is the same way. There are a few tanks like that.
dreamy shale
@pine falcon thank you for that response, but it doesn't really give any clarification as to what wargaming considers "mount top modules". Are they only referring to the modules required to research the next tank?
pine falcon
@dreamy shale in the past it was top modules only. Only later they added the option to use some non top guns. I assume they forgot to change the description
dreamy shale
@pine falcon so turret, engine, and tracks will always have to be highest tier and some top guns are optional?
pine falcon
i think so.
iron widget
Is your rating rewarding enough?
Just curious to know if playing rating battles is worth it since i have never played it
bleak crest
It’s worth for credits and xp, nothing else as wargaming doesn’t really understand that some don’t want low skill players in their battles. Also be aware that the ranked queue is touch and pc mixed no matter your setting.
pallid arch
Play ratings if you want to see smashers and an exceptionally high number of missile tanks.
quartz aspen
Remove encounter battles
bright perch
Playing rating should give a real advantage in terms of credits or experience
Even maybe giving some premium tanks for free for platinum or diamond players
Cause there is no point to play them (although I'm playing ratings) 😂
I mean in lots of games you have the casual and the ranked, and even thought some players play casuals lots of them play ranked cause there is sth behind to get
agile sphinx
@bright perch There is currently an extremely rare prem available to the top players and based on your league you get XP and credit bonuses. You have literally said you want what is already there...
bright perch
Yes but the bonuses are not very high and I mean the top players in ranks get a reward but not those who are in diamond or platinium
OK yes I get a camo but that's all
agile sphinx
And because it's so easy to get to there there shouldn't be a good reward... And 66% bonus is pretty big for over 5k idk what the lower leagues get
blissful portal
5 first battle of the day and yes a lose MM needs a rework now
bleak crest
They switch some settings on and off. It was ok 2 days ago now it’s broken again.
sonic sedge
I’ve not been placed in the ‘winning teams’ most of the day,whichever tier I play...lost like over 600 points in one day,seen bad players (I’ve played over 70k battles) & bad matching like the mines map where more td’s on the other team wins! Players that are still calibrating on either team that score zero!
Yet I can win battles on normal random mode...Go figure the whacked ‘ratings mode’!
Ah but no one is supposed to moan about it on this channel 🙄
you’re either lucky with the players you get..or you’re not..
No one person can win for a random ‘team’ of 7 so it’s not your ‘personal rating’ whatsoever,just what war gaming want you to have!
fallen mortar
Stevo loosing 600 points you must suck pretty hard
sonic sedge
no YOU do
fallen mortar
No im already above your rating
fallen mortar
mister I have no arguments so I start to complain about Grammer of non native speakers
So just tell us what rating you expect yourself to be at and why I suck with both better Wr and stats and also better rating without playing it that much this season
blissful portal
me to @sonic sedge teams are just disgusting no sense you can lose 10 battles or more in a row
cursive geyser
Git gud
blissful portal
If you are going to type that dont even talk kid@cursive geyser
cursive geyser
O nyoo you mad cuz you bad?
sonic sedge
@blissful portal exactly,I won that many points to get so far in the first place then to lose them all in a day then the err ‘matching’ isn’t random otherwise ratings points earning would be more stable! Lose a few then win a few,but certainly not lose more than you win,that shows the dice is loaded against you! I’m not the only player to have noticed this either for all of you who think its just the singular player that can lose an entire ‘team’ of SEVEN battle!!🙄
pine falcon
I can't say much this season as I am not doing very well in rating atm, but I can definitely tell you this. By having played 70K battles you should have learned by now how to make decisions. Also judging from the battle I met you I can judge this: You want to be independent, you don't want a team to work with even if the players are good (for example Abyss and I are pretty good players (don't remember the rest of the players)). Instead of going with the rest of the team, you go alone to "defend" the flank for barely 30 secs after the enemies were spotted.
sonic sedge
@ornate spoke you won’t get extra credits if you’re placed with a bad ‘team’ as they’ll yolo or have a lower rating than you & usually score zero if they’re STILL calibrating after all this time then you’ll get destroyed soon after having fired not that many shots!
@pine falcon yeah don’t forget I scored more than you in that battle despite getting destroyed BEFORE you! 🤦♂️YOU missed 4 shots out of 6 in a tier 9-10 battle....I STILL have the screen shot...
pine falcon
I got like 2.6K assist damage that game xD @sonic sedge So don't try to push the bs that you scored "higher: then me xD
sonic sedge
@pine falcon I did
Scored more hits than you too, even if you do think you’re ‘gifted’! 🤦♂️
pine falcon
1st) Well stats don't lie and I would say that 58.5% is pretty decent (anyone who disagrees please speak up) but I never ever said I am gifted, just a played who is decently above average
2nd) I have a battle, if you want I can send it (it is in Amaunets competition) (I can offer screenshots if you don;t want the replay) 3K damage dealt with 6.1K assist. A grille on my team has 5.5K dmg. sooo he scored more hits but do you think he did more work than me?
@sonic sedge
think... just think for a second before you respond...
sonic sedge
@pine falcon you called ME out yet AGAIN! stats!? They are not YOUR stats,like the same as ratings..it’s whatever ‘team’ you’re put with..
pine falcon
I call you out because YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN!!!. Its a team game, if you want personal rating go play fortnut or some shitty battle royale game
sonic sedge
I call you out because YOU CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN!!!. Its a team game, if you want personal rating go play fortnut or some shitty battle royale game
@pine falcon whats ‘fortnut’? Which has NOTHING to do with ratings! TROLL
mossy badger
Bro why is it that everytime I come here it’s Stevo complaining about mm
If you consistently lose that many times it’s 100% your fault...
pine falcon
fortnut is fortnite. You clearly haven;t heard of memes. And I refer to it because it is a solo game
sonic sedge
@no its not xXABCXx#8458
pine falcon
And that is what you want, you want to rely on your own skill. You don;t trust anyone, not even your mom or dad
mossy badger
it’s only your team’s fault if you do 3x more damage than 2nd place on your team multiple times in a row
pine falcon
you want to be independent, you want to do what you want. But then you will realize you have no one to blame for you losing as it is solo.
sonic sedge
For your information my dad died of cancer over 24yrs ago
mossy badger
Of course that’s a general guideline and does not always determine “carrying”. Bottom line: it’s illogical to complain about mm when everyone at some point has the same mm as you
pine falcon
Also calling me "retard" is against the rules. jus fyi
Well sorry to assume he was still alive since you act like a kid
sonic sedge
Blocked
mossy badger
LMAO
pine falcon
alright, I lost nothing with this block. On the other hand I gained my sanity back ¯_(ツ)_/¯
mossy badger
it’s like when stevo loads in “dude my whole teams so bad” but at the same time each and every one of his teammates is like “what is this guy doing”
pine falcon
The problem with stevo is that his skill is too thick, blocking the information and logic going to his walnut-like brain.
spare cobalt
A quick little question: is the “Free tech tree tank” for 4K and higher rating for everyone, or just streamers. And, if I am eligible, do I have to register to get the rewards? Thanks!
mossy badger
oh NO I lost? That’s IMPOSSIBLE! Curse WG and their bad mm I can’t even get a 100% win rate against a few of the top players of the game!
@spare cobalt streamers only. You need to have a requirement of quite a few subs first.
pine falcon
1K subs to register
wind moonBOT
stevo1100r#2917 was muted
native marten
Ratings for me is fine right now just play tier 8 games and then carry like 70% of your games
Literally all you have to do it look at how many people of each tier are in the queue, and try to get into a tier 7-8 games and then do 3k damage and then just win the game and get free points
mortal axle
Yes. I want free points too xD
pallid arch
I'm pretty close to 50% ratings win rate, so ratings is doing what it is supposed to for me.
scarlet fox
@jagged rune that has nothing to do with ratings battles mate
terse sapphire
Ratings is unplayable with all the atmgs... I got hit by two missiles 10 seconds into the battle when I went to spot for my team... Now i know some 'experts' are going to lecture me about how it was my mistake not knowing how to play how to spot defend blah blah... Now come on how to do defend yourself against a sheridan that isn't even spotted and he hits you with a missiles over the mountain
pallid arch
I dont know that much about the missiles in tournaments, but them in ratings is a complete nightmare. I prefer 183 spam over atgm spam.
cedar river
@terse sapphire youre completely right lol. U cant block a perfectly shot missile from pretty close range.
terse sapphire
One of many
lone thistle
“ATMG”
cursive thorn
if t92e1 will be deleted on rating battle top 10 will change on eu server , all top players using only t92e1 dear wargaming do something about that please
bleak crest
Players should start acting as a team and wargaming should stop rewarding selfish gameplay by the current point system. Atgm need to be rushed but nobody wants to lose hp and thus potential damage later on because of the points. So they better lose with higher damage and then cry.
cursive thorn
you can't rush on high rating games they all playing as a team
cosmic cypress
Not rushing isn’t selfish it’s called conserving your hp so that you can live longer into the game it a pretty basic concept if you survive longer you can do more damage and help your team more. If you rush a missile tank with even a semi-competent team around it you won’t kill it and you will die.
drifting cedar
I was going to write a long text for my man steve of how 7v7 is more winnable than a 6v7 but he got muted and i can keep my sanity
fleet epoch
Rip
unique olive
mossy badger
Now that’s a heartbreaker and no one can blame you. Meanwhile stevo be complaining about the same thing and doing like 3k damage lol
native marten
nah man stevo’s a god bro we can’t disrespect the one and only stevo since his skills are clearly just too good all losses are because of his team lmao
fallen mortar
all praise our lord and savior stevo1100r
cosmic cypress
🙏
lime sparrow
absoLUTEly unprecedented in skill 😩 😩 😩
Speaking of which, anyone know how to check stats of recent 60 days or whatever?
cedar river
@lime sparrow on blitzstars, the site
lime sparrow
Now I'm just curious on what WN8 do yall consider to be pretty good
Also my 30-60 day period is blank for some reason
pine falcon
As seen by the picture above, games like this are reasons to blame the team and the person has the right to complain about MM considering his damage compared to the others.
torn wave
I have a question.......In ratings battles for the Platinum camo, do you need to have 50 battles at the tier, or 50 battles in a specific tank? The rules say 50 battles in the tier but they’re vague
agile sphinx
@torn wave 50 games at that tier, and the most played tank gets the camo.
torn wave
@agile sphinx That’s exactly the way the rules say it works but some people are saying 50 battles in each tank per tier.
native marten
lol it looks like I gotta buy back my JP2 that I grinded in ratings then
torn wave
Here is where I’m at, from the rules I should get the camo for the 3 tanks
native marten
pretty sure the smasher can’t get a camo since you can’t change its camo
pine falcon
yes, you are correct. @torn wave
torn wave
@pine falcon Thanks brother
blissful portal
Welcome to all my rating battles...just Amazing, only 6 battles played today won only 1
And i can keep on posting results the only player passing 1k dmg me, no, definetly its not the MM...
pine falcon
Hey, yesterday and the day before yesterday I lost a total of 350 points. Today alone I earned 150+ points. Every day is random
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You can't control that so let it go and keep on pushing
blissful portal
@pine falcon hope you are right man
ornate spoke
How do the point mechanics work for drawed matches
marsh sail
Do i still get camo for reaching plat even if i go back to gold
torpid walrus
you have to be plat at end of season
native marten
you still have a while to get to platinum though so yeah
crystal bay
Make it so players must be within 750 points of each other to be matched with exceptions if one minute has passed without matching- increase to 1500, then after 1:30 can be matched to anyone
Idk maybe
They should release the platinum/diamond camos as a certificate because i like grinding my tanks in rating battles and i would like to put that camo on my favorite tanks
native marten
750 is still kinda wide, but it’s better than right now when you see like a 1.7k player in a match full of high 3k mid-4k players
Just saying that 750 is kinda wide because like the different between a 5k player and low 4k player is pretty big, or a low 4k player (like 4250 or so) would probably also be like “ew why am I getting matched with a 3500 player”
pallid arch
What's a good tech tree tier 7 for ratings? I am done with missiles
And from what I can tell my options are getting missiles spammed at me, or this:
And that was after after a 2.5 minute wait that I exited and reentered
mossy badger
@pallid arch Panther is good. Recommend SU-152 cuz it doesn’t care who it’s shooting. unpopular opinion but sp1c carried me thru diamond a few seasons ago
pallid arch
But smashers proved weren't around back then. That is what is keeping me out of my type62
mossy badger
su-152 then.... I don’t really play tier 7 that much but that seems like one of the most competitive tech tree if not Panther
Oh wait Tiger I @pallid arch
next gull
@crystal bay goodish idea, but servers like Asia and probably NA would always have to wait 1min if not 1:30 just to get their usual MM.
scarlet fox
@unique olive yes, and discussing mods decisions might get you another one. Please check #rules, act accordingly and you'll do fine
bleak crest
There should be 2-3 tiers that don’t meet each other but probably there aren’t enough players in rating. So inexperienced players might get into battles that they shouldn’t really be in as they are out of their depth at that level. And it’s not doing damage that’s the main problem but the positioning.
rich kiln
Can u help me, my game is rigged, 20loses in row
I do 2000dmg with IX and lose 30points and diamond guy do 2000dmg with X and lose only 5 pointz
@odd maple Whete is balance?
fallen mortar
- never ping WG staff unless they are actively typing in the channel 2. your MM isnt rigged u probably suck 3. the higher you get the less points u earn so u also loose less 4. why the heck do you even play 20 battles if you keep loosing just take a break after 3 or so
sonic sedge
@fallen mortar Why do you suggest taking a break if ‘you keep loosing’ (losing),I’m curious?
mossy badger
That’s a common tip for all multiplayer games
There’s really no point in continuing to play if you’re losing many in a row cuz obviously anyone would be pissed off and continue to perform worse and worse. It’s like the pitfalls of gambling
btw diamond players obviously lose less because they also win less. That’s been established since the beginning of rating battles
rich kiln
Maybe I'm not p2w bcs I saw many diamond players in T-22 Medium, but I don't have that tank :)
mossy badger
wait bruh when was that ever part of the argument
If you’re also in diamond you also lose less rating if you lost a game
scarlet fox
@sonic sedge it is solid advice that @fallen mortar is giving. The more you lose, the more determined people get to win the next game. And that usually leads to bad decisions in game like over extending, trying to get that one shot in only to get blasted by the TD behind, etc
cosmic cypress
You definitely play worse when you start getting frustrated
marsh valley
When I get frustrated I carry sometimes because I get really ambitious
bleak crest
You need to close the game to reset some “internal settings”, sometimes even close it for that day. A very good player gave me that advice.
cedar river
@marsh valley youre a special one ;)
glacial junco
@rich kiln I’ve experienced the same, 36% wr throughout 100 games. The rating was dead set on 4500 and didn’t want to go up. You have to just leave it for a few days, then come back and play your favorite vehicle. Rating will go up.
rich kiln
@glacial junco True
native marten
When I get frustrated I just stop for the day, and if I’m not in the mode to grind ratings, then I don’t because otherwise I get frustrated and lose a bunch of games and drop so much more than if I stopped after a loss streak
ornate spoke
what day do ratings end
quartz aspen
End of next month
ornate spoke
thanks
lime sparrow
im about 450 away from Plat. Think I can get that juicy camo once I play it right and have some luck
marsh valley
@cedar river i die 60% of the time still im not special
mossy badger
I’m hovering at 4750 and I can’t hit 5K 😩
low sandal
when do we recieve the good for rbc_March?
mossy badger
?
lime sparrow
I think he’s asking about the Fearless award
mellow flower
What is the best tier for gaining rating points? Feel like tier 10 is really tough b/c unicums love spamming atgm tanks, and they are impossible to counter imo, which is in contrast to what Droodles said about t10 being best by always being top tier
native marten
I mainly play tier 7/8, with tier 7 you’re guaranteed to always get downtiered but you don’t have to deal with pesky ATGMs, at tier 8 you can either carry a tier 7/8 game easily or risk getting downtiered and having to deal with the T92E1, though you can minimize the chances of the latter by going into queue, checking out when there’s a small amount of tier 9 but a good amount of tier 7-8 tanks to try to get into a match where you’re the top tier
pallid arch
The t29 is a really good tank to use. Very usable against high tiers, and I dont have to hear the pshhhhhhhht going past my turret. The only problem is the match making is a lot longer for 7s.
median wagon
Pretty sure WG said somewhere that you fight equally skilled opponents, then why are there silver league players in both teams when I’m in platinum
glossy raptor
You would have to wait for ages if everyone should be close to your rating
median wagon
There’s already a million players who are in platinum because they spammed, oh you guessed it! The T92E1, Smasher, Caernarvon AX and Sheridan
eager carbon
Don't forget about MK1 defender. Ratings that were supposed to be about skill are now a contest for showing off who has the most OP/broken tank @median wagon
median wagon
It’s the showdown of wallets
eager carbon
Wold Of Wallets Blitz: The final frontier
glossy raptor
Yeah cuz u need a thick wallet to get t92e1 and sheridan
median wagon
Those are exceptions, because they have broken mechanics and they’re already insane tanks in general
next gull
There are not millions of players in Plat @median wagon
median wagon
Sure there aren’t
next gull
There probably not even 3k on EU server
median wagon
I find that a lot of 40wr guys are already in platinum-diamond
And what is the common trend I find? They all spam OP tanks
next gull
Add tier selection, tank type selection... imagine how long it would take to set a game with Plat only players.
Agreed, tier 8 is nearly premium only
Tier 9-10, the higher you go in rating, the more atgm you see.
median wagon
There are thousands of platinum players already, and is it not enough hell to deal with these broken tanks?
eager carbon
median wagon
Ratings is at a terrible state, a mixture of noobs, and op tank spammers
eager carbon
T92E1 is currently the most played/spammed tank. 21k players. T49 2nd with 17k and sheridan 3rd with 11k.
median wagon
And we all know why the T92 is most spammed
eager carbon
Ratings were originally suposed to be about skill but now its just spam broken tanks and noobs beliving that they can get the fearless
median wagon
The 56wr average from across the 21k players proves it
next gull
Yep. Ratings is supposedly skill-only based. Apparently many think the tank helps a lot too.
eager carbon
It was. Now its a contest of who ever has the most broken tanks and more quantity than the enemy wins. Ratings is now decided not by skill but by mm
median wagon
WG made a hilarious statement about rating matcjes https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiqozD8JMU hear about what they say
“Worthy opponents”
Enemy T92 camps, bounces every single shot off his upper glacis and dominates the game
next gull
It is going to be nerfed. We will see. Anyway, the best tanks (stat-wise) will always be spammed. To date, it is the T92E1
median wagon
It doesn’t look like a good enough nerf, it needs more
pallid arch
I can farm damage much easier in my tanks that aren't op. The op ones get tunneled and I get free shots
median wagon
The OP ones like caenarvon action x are just stupid
eager carbon
And MK1
pallid arch
You canHE pen the cupola on action x
median wagon
Are you sure? It’s smaller than a pancake
eager carbon
Oh yea sure try hitting it 1st
pallid arch
I discovered it while just trying to splash the turret
median wagon
These unpennable turrets even have extra spaced armour
eager carbon
And not only that but we will get the tier X version the super conq that for some reason also has frontal spaced armor
median wagon
That thing will surely dominate in tier X
eager carbon
the only bad thing about it is accuracy because somehow WG thinks that bad accuracy on a broken tank = balanced
median wagon
So WG can’t balance, but they can balance when it comes to an SU 130PM. First time you did something worthy
next gull
At least at tier X, you are away from low battle count players who bought a tier 8 premium to see if it helps getting above 40% wr.
Well, ratings do not impact wr. Then I don't know why do that.
median wagon
All tiers 7-10 are full of broken tanks
eager carbon
the SU 130PM event will be p2w. Either the tank is super trash or its worth it. Either way i cant see WG adding a new tier 8 and then making a event for it that can be done with out nolife or cash
median wagon
Why do noobs honestly even attempt to get the IS-6 fearless, ruining matches for the expense of others
eager carbon
also @next gull Ratings impact your league, wich for a player like me that just wants to get the platinum league paint for my grille its hard cuz bad teams. Win 1 lose 2
median wagon
Ratings has been a constant up and down, there is nothing persistent
eager carbon
there is actually, broken tanks being spammed. Thats always persistent
median wagon
You mean extremely abundant
glossy raptor
Why do u even play rating if u hate it so much
eager carbon
I because i want the platinum league paint
median wagon
It’s much more abundant than the amount of oxygen in this world
I want to play ratings because I’d like to have the IS-6 fearless, and now it’s a rare opportunity to try and get it. Why would I miss this opportunity that can pay off in the future
eager carbon
He got 3 noobs from the silver league while hes in platinum league
median wagon
Exactly, and WG said “worthy opponents”
next gull
@eager carbon glad to hear the the camo is a good incentive to play ratings. The more people play ratings, the smaller the rating span in each battle.
median wagon
The more people play ratings=higher abundance of noobs
0.01% of the player base actually has skill
eager carbon
meh all i want is for my grille to have a decent camo one thats not bought by credits. And since im wayyy too lazy to grind 750 gold in ads id rather the camo
median wagon
If noobs were removed from wotb, the game will be a desert
eager carbon
@median wagon Has skill and its not a reroll or seal clubbers
well to be fair all games have noobs nowadays, WoTB isnt the only one
next gull
@eager carbon Play 50 games in grille, or at least 26 ten complete with another at tier 10. Then spam tier 8 with a good tank to get to 4k.
median wagon
Oh and talking about reroll, those are the ones to have IS-6 fearless on first run
eager carbon
Aight thanks for the idea, time to dust off ye ol 252U @next gull
median wagon
Remember when ratings had platoons
eager carbon
That was WG asking for broken toons lol. Like smasher toons and etc
median wagon
And trash toons
eager carbon
yea because sometimes you had the broken toon others the randoms
median wagon
Lol! My type 59 average wr is 48% in ratings
eager carbon
but oh well what can you do. All ppl want the same. IS 6 Fear. So they go the easy way for it. And since all games are made out of noobs nowadays sadly theres nothing much you can do other than spamming the broken tanks yourself as well or just keep trying your best with normal ones and maybe lord MM will allow you to achieve your goal
Tbh id rather actual bots on my teams sometimes over teammates
median wagon
Remember when people asked WG for 10v10 matchmaking, well I don’t think +3 noobs is very helpful is it...
eager carbon
i mean look at the meds look at where their going
and look at this guy, snipers medal on a heavy tank....
median wagon
Noobs are as useful as a chocolate teacup
ornate spoke
there is actually, broken tanks being spammed. Thats always persistent
@eager carbon - yep. In higher ratings leagues you notice a huge shift in the tanks being driven.
eager carbon
Lemme guess: MK1 Def, Caern Act X, WZ 120 1 FT, Smasher, T92E1, Sheridan, Maus, JPanther.
median wagon
It’s because everyone is fighting each other with broken tanks because they can’t play regular tanks like a regular person
So they have to use something op to mask it
Also ratings is much more toxic than regular matches, everyone is sweating to try and get the IS-6 fearless
glossy raptor
Play an op tank yourself
eager carbon
yeph sadly thats the only way to win nowadays
late mural
Why is "everyone" here complaining and spamming about "everyone wants the IS-6"?
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It can't be true, because the IS-6 is about the most boring prize WG could think of AND because the effort needed to get one is huge/impossible to most players.
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If it were true, why would that be bad? Ratings badly needs more players, so if people fall for this stupid gimmick and play more, that's only a good thing.
agile sphinx
I think what the IS6 has done is motivated the better part of the playerbase to play ratings, which is amazing for the game. I still see noobs but they are much much rarer than they used to be because there are so many more people near my rating so I can get matched with them easily. It's never going to be possible to stop people seeing noobs but so far most of my games have been against good players and they have been enjoyable.
I really like the way WG have started trying to bring back ratings, the unique (or close enough) prem for the top players is a great idea (and they didn't choose a broken tank which is great), but then also the parts allowing people who aren't in the top 10 to get there eventually. The one thing I don't like is how WG have said it will be possible to get it just by getting 5k because that doesn't really require skill just battle spamming, but I get that they want to make it more accessible to people. All WG have to do now is keep changing the rewards every so often so people don't get bored and stop playing because they already have the rewards.
ornate spoke
^ Agreed. And limit ATGMs to one per team max.
pallid arch
Limit it to 0 per match
cedar river
@abstract crescent u play atgm 🤢
pine falcon
its because you are playing atgms
abstract crescent
u guys dont know how to do high dmg
its the same with other tanks, unless ur using rockets.
bleak crest
Rockets are very situational
ornate spoke
Rockets are aids
bleak crest
That’s why the tanks need enough penetration on the standard ammo
jagged dirge
isn't this the reason why people play t10 mm?
native marten
Oh, tier 10 is even worse if they’re trolling, since you just have a Maus pushing you out in the open
quick light
@median wagon you are the first one dead, I dont know why you would be so salty
median wagon
At least I’m not camping like that
eager carbon
T10 is the worse cuz ATGM
pine falcon
tier 10 is way easier to progress even if there are atgms
fleet sinew
Whats wrong with matchmaking??? At tier8 approximate 200 points or more between the teams!!
agile sphinx
@fleet sinew You realise that 200 points is barely anything at all, especially at 4k rating. After maybe 400 points at that low a level it becomes an issue
fleet sinew
I get (with me) 2 over 4000 and rest under this and red team had 1x 4600, 3x 4200, 2x 3000 and one without calibration. I think this mm is a very big issue.
agile sphinx
The players who haven't finished calibrating yet have a preliminary rating that is taken into account when doing the matchmaking but isn't displayed, and that sounds like a fine battle to me I'm guessing you lost otherwise you wouldn't be complaining...
ornate spoke
Do tier 9s fight tier 8s?
Like is one group tier 10s and 9s and the other tier 8s and 7s?
pine falcon
tier 9 meets tier 8 too. However because the majority of the players play tier 10, tier 9&10 battles are more likely to be played @ornate spoke
ornate spoke
Bruh moment
hazy bronze
Many m48 is such amazing tank in rating battles
wind moonBOT
___C1N___™#0095 has been warned.
lime sparrow
I was hoping to go from 3690 (69’s a nice number) up to something higher buttttt
It’s kinda hard to do that with off-meta tanks now I think about it
frank sage
Do tier 9s fight tier 8s?
@ornate spoke
Off of what @pine falcon said bc he's totally right. Since there's not many players in rating queue that means (With a lot of Luck and timing) u may easily enter a tier 8 battle with tier 9. All u have to do is simple math. 14 players in need to b in a game, so subtract that into some even number between the tiers. For instance to get in a tier 8 battle with tier 9 there should b a low amount of tier 10's and a higher amount of tier 9 and 8's. Keep in mind that the 8's could and most likely will pare with the 7's and like what R_servik21 said ur just more likely gonna get into a tier 10 match.
ornate spoke
Yes I know. I was just wondering if the tiers were separated into different groups but he answered that for me.
ornate spoke
It's funny how ratings are supposed to be a place to show your skill yet all you have to do is jump into the most op tank and get amazing rating as a 50%er like this guy
eager belfry
Wow👍👍
azure shard
Do you know if rating end in april or in june ? What's it duration .. 2x1 month or 2 months ?
glossy raptor
@bright perch not this one, this one is 2 months so end of may
bright perch
Really
glossy raptor
Yes
bright perch
I have now the chance to go up to diamond then 😁😁😁
azure shard
Rewards same like one month
And IS 6 tokens begin useless
glossy raptor
Not really useless. Come to 5k rating 10 seasons and u get it
ornate spoke
Oh, tier 10 is even worse if they’re trolling, since you just have a Maus pushing you out in the open
@native marten It gets better as you climb platinum.
rich kiln
This guy is on 1. place on EU, yeah very "skill" needed tanks
:)
bleak crest
The guy obviously pays a lot, this needs to be rewarded, don’t you think?
high arch
Skill > activity though, but if you don’t play enough, you won’t get anywhere on the leaderboard either
cursive geyser
Ah, he should have used t92 at tier 9, that tank makes wT look bad
fallen mortar
@rich kiln i dont get your problem it needs skill in all tanks to get to the Top 10 even those and trapmelon isnt a bad player after all and why are you all so jealous i bet most wont get up there even with those tanks
rich kiln
@fallen mortar 🤣 🤣 🤣
fallen mortar
laughing is no argument the only tank that is OP is Smasher and in it youll mostly face T8 so its kinda balanced out
rich kiln
I'm not jealous, I'm just pointing on fact
cursive geyser
I was in top 100 without any of those, but I gave up cuz everyone spamming them, and they required less skills than any of other tanks.
rich kiln
I respect guys with Leopard 1 who can get to diamond with this tank, but sorry T-22 is not skill based
cursive geyser
That’s me I play leopard
fallen mortar
sure in a competetion youll use whatever is required to win and if something is best why not use it, and T-22 isnt as OP as everyone thinks imo
rich kiln
Well, still better than rockets at least
fallen mortar
imo its just troll
rich kiln
rockets are bigger problem than T-22
cursive geyser
Not just rockets, whole tank
bleak crest
Why aren’t guys playing rocket tanks top ?
terse sapphire
I'm struggling with playing the standard B in ratings
I don't have a premium tank either
Like u see.. i played 163 battles in tier9 with the standard b ....but could only make 104 point's
Can't do enough damage...with missile tanks and the heavies hp buff
It's hard to survive with tht paper armor
tired vault
Idk how wg could fix it, nor do I care, but the way ratings works now is you only need to spam battles to achieve higher ranks. I mean the main problem is that players are not punished as much for a loss. When holding the #1 spot you will gain 8-15 per win and lose only 2-3 per loss.
terse sapphire
Well thats fair losing 2 to 10 points doing top most damage in the losing team
tired vault
Yeah but the #1 guy can do like 4th best damage and still only lose like 3 points
And damage isn’t the only thing that wins games btw
mossy badger
Which is why season 1 is better as it equally punished everyone by a lot but also rewards them by a lot
This system just rewards damage farmers and not exactly game winners
Sure it can unfairly reward that afk once in a while but at least that system made the actual top players in the top 100. Every rating game above 4K has every player who are actually good at the game
fallen mortar
the afk part could be fixed just put something that monitors if you moove or do dmg which is pretty much already in the game adn if those numbers are to low just dont give em points or let them loose some
native marten
@ornate spoke I’m currently mid-gold but I’ve been platinum before, definitely better there but you just gotta hope you don’t somehow get into the match with mid-silvers lol
echo flax
Rating battles: quantity over quality to get to the diamond nowadays
tired vault
It’s been like that for at least a year now
pine falcon
This season in took me about 690 battles .... to get to 5K. Last season I was there with 230? I think.
And yes, I know I am a 58% noob but it basically took me THREE times the normal battles for the same score
ornate spoke
Yeah this season is just ruined... Unplayable, there is at least 2 atgms per each team in a battle. #RemoveATGMsFromRatings
bleak crest
It’s pay to win, don’t take it seriously. It’s simply not worth it to put effort into it and get annoyed.
pine falcon
@bleak crest I don't understand how rating is p2w. The rating spam currently Maus, E100, Sheridan, Stb/62A/T22, IS4/7, Grille/268/Foch (I may be missing a few). But lets not fall behind, only one of these tanks is behind a pay wall. The others are up for your taking, all you need to do is grind them
glossy raptor
Last season i took around 50 to get 5k. This time i gave up for the moment cuz it seems like i cant win
brazen imp
Its an endurance race, spam > skill
ornate spoke
It's basically spam t92 and that's ez 6k rating at the end of the season. Like there is so many ~50% with 5k rating playing nothing but t92 or sheridan. They have no bussines in diamond league.
dawn beacon
Btw is this season lasting for 2 months or will it get reseted at the end of the month like usually?
agile sphinx
Skill will still get you to 5k, but the only way to get to the top is to battle spam. Having skill makes it easier but a 50%er could come first place if they spent every single minute spamming games. You aren't punished for losing enough, and you aren't punished for doing badly enough so you will always keep getting a higher rating
@dawn beacon 2 months
dawn beacon
Aight ty
ornate spoke
the number one player on NA literally has a negative gain in t10 and spams t8/9
little to no point in playing t10 aside from the camo when you can just spam a broken t8 prem
Funny how sometimes tier 8 is easier to win as the unskilled players play tier 10 instead of the other way. Match making should be fixed :/
pine falcon
@glossy raptor if you reached 5k in 50 battles, you are a god in my eyes.
next gull
Tier8 can be somewhat painful. I find I am often bottom tier. Then a mobile tank is necessary to escape the T92s.
native marten
I actually used the JP2 and went up like 300 points in a day (about 2 hours of playing)
ornate spoke
Middleburg needs to be reworked atgms are totally dominating the battle on that map
mossy badger
bruh why not just rework atgms lmao
@ornate spoke oh my god that volva guy right
He was an average player but when I realized he’s number 1 I’m like wtf
glossy raptor
@pine falcon i had a good calibration and won 80% of my battles :)
rich kiln
well
fallen mortar
@agile sphinx actually i think a 50% would struggle a lot because up there spaming isnt as effective anymore if your rating battles have an avg of 5k or even above since most players there are imo pretty good and you keep meeting LOCA and stuff and they are in nearly every battles so spamming gets a little hard for less skilled players the spam has a limit imo and @pine falcon i think its because more people actually try and so does thier tank of choice change
jagged dirge
Ranked is so easy to farm points, if you average a 57% winrate and play enough battles, you can accomplish whatever you need
agile sphinx
@fallen mortar They would struggle, but it would still be possible for them to come top which shows the system is completely useless at determining the best players in each region which it should be doing. I don't think there is a limit to anyone except a bad players rating unless you get to the point where its actually impossible to gain or lose any points. Good players will get there faster but it's still possible for average players to get there.
fallen mortar
3k in isu is what 3 shots with he 😅
open iron
What can u HE if the entire enemy team is meds and heavies
fallen mortar
Meds 99mm 90 mm he
Prog both ru ltwt T49 t34 2 t34 3 cent t 44 panther II usually side or turretshots can pen those with he
lime sparrow
oh man I'm losing points
and i lowkey think its cuz everybpdy is dying early lmao
bleak crest
They have no patience even in platinum league
jagged dirge
ive played so many ranked modes, from ow, r6, and blitz to name a few- plat is always somehow magically the worst rank
wind moonBOT
Warning logged for _Devaw#2550. They were not warned.
muted shuttle
Ratings are still about who plays the highest number of battles, it's actually visible on some profiles
pallid arch
Guilty :)
pine falcon
I am guilty if spamming battles
lime sparrow
I'm literally dropping down to 3.5k because of the battles I spam
It's just that somehow most of the teams I was with were major potatos for today and it suckskkkkkkkkk
lime sparrow
oh god im dropping down 3.4k
these teams keep dying
native marten
if you're tilted then stop playing
hazy bronze
Play good tanks like m48 Patton
Play decent tanks and if just stuck at 3,5 then your most likely their for reason that your not good at game.
native marten
yikes man the m48 is just meh at best tbh there's better mediums
hazy bronze
Yeah that tell to 68 win rate tier 10
native marten
having a high wr doesn't mean the tank is good
hazy bronze
True but not best tank but it most scenarios it can amazing and even some more other tanks like stb 1 e 50m etc
native marten
in some situations I'd take m48 over the e50m but tbh I'd take stb over m48 any day
hazy bronze
Yeah I can see that
hazy bronze
I do that in random battles stb 1 better than m48 but I’m rating I think it m48 better
lime sparrow
im gonna stop if i drop down below 3.3
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow what tier are you playing
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow what types of tanks like med td or heavys
lime sparrow
no specific class. I usually am at the top of the scores tho
hazy bronze
@like what damage 3k and up or more around 2k or less
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow I will say that 2.4k at tier 10 sadly won’t be enough win most games since tier 10 have more skills based team has tier 8 has more who get more op tanks on team.
lime sparrow
its weird tho, few days ago, i was climb 500 pts, now its the opposite
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow I will say this I seen your stats I think they is room for improve become a better player as whole. Yeah what rating your when climb 500 plus
lime sparrow
3.3 to 3.9
To be fair, my early years were pretty bad
ey im back to 3.46 now
maybe i just need more tier 8 games
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow what is your goal to get 5k
lime sparrow
honestly 4k lmao i just want a camo
hazy bronze
@lime sparrow say this best of luck on@getting the camo
pallid arch
I have gone between 5510 and 5550 4 times today
tired vault
I have 150 rating games. Bruh everyone else in diamond has like 300-800
pallid arch
Ya, I gotta spam to get these fearless parts
lime sparrow
3.6
slowly getting back?/1?!?!
ohshtimdroppingagain
aight ill stay at 3.5-3.6 for now
native marten
I just wait for days when I feel like I want to climb up the ladder then I take like a 1 week break, haven’t touched ratings battles in like almost a week now
ornate spoke
There is a guy from ELEM who had to play 1400 battles to get 6k rating lmao.
pallid arch
That's gonna be me
ornate spoke
@bleak crest I don't understand how rating is p2w. The rating spam currently Maus, E100, Sheridan, Stb/62A/T22, IS4/7, Grille/268/Foch (I may be missing a few). But lets not fall behind, only one of these tanks is behind a pay wall. The others are up for your taking, all you need to do is grind them
@pine falcon don't feed the trolls. Cancracker is one of the tinfoil hats that believes MM is rigged in favour of people that spend money.
wind moonBOT
L1sa [CREAM]#0143 has been warned.
tropic solar
@ornate spoke That only applies to t10 rating battles, what about tier 7 and 8. With tanks like the smasher,wzgft and the drac.
pine falcon
@tropic solar we are talking tier 10 because 1st) It is the most competitive tier and rating is supposed to be competitive 2nd) The majority of the rating playerbaseis located at tier 10. Almost no one cares about anything lower than tier 10
cursive thorn
every single game always 2 t92e1 each team and ruined all games please make it unavailible till nerf it
sonic sedge
fallen mortar
I don't see anything special it isn't an ace 70 points at 3k isn't hard 😅 but I guess GG?
cursive thorn
huh
muted shuttle
@cursive thorn ?
cursive thorn
that was a good game i mean
muted shuttle
Oh yes, welll 5k is 5k after all
You are slowly getting to my rating, pity it is only about who plays the most battles not skill wise
cursive thorn
exactly and who abuse t92e1 get higher points
muted shuttle
Indeed, well check who is the first one, guess he played at least 1,5k battles in that WT
cursive thorn
wg should set-up point system on t9 tanks or they should'nt matchup t10 games or they should get less points like even sheridan and t92e1 deal same damage sheridan get more less points
ornate spoke
@ornate spoke That only applies to t10 rating battles, what about tier 7 and 8. With tanks like the smasher,wzgft and the drac.
@tropic solar - you didn't understand my point. I didn't say that premium vehicles are not pay to win. I said Cancracker believes the MM (match maker) is rigged to favour players that spend money.
While those tier 7 and premiums are good, there's still plenty of decent tech tree tanks kicking around those tiers - but agreed - the Smasher is obnoxiously good.
fallen mortar
@cursive thorn if T9 wouldnt be able to meet T10 in ranked they would spam them even more since the gap is kinda big between 8 and 9 imo atleast for tanks like wT
cursive thorn
on high rating points i guess most of us playing t10 but some of abusers spamming this t92 😦
ornate spoke
on high rating points i guess most of us playing t10 but some of abusers spamming this t92 😦
@cursive thorn Yep. t92 ideal rating platform as you will face Tier VIII where you will be godly and even at Tier X, you are basically another Tier X because the T92 = The Sheridan in terms of performance.
So your team automatically has a leg up in terms of tier balance if their tier IX doesn't also include a t92e1.
agile sphinx
Make ratings tier 10 only and then not only do you get rid of most of the bots with 100 games and a tier 8 prem, you also get rid of most of the unbalanced tanks.
Just a little warning: FUH4 is trying to rig ratings on EU watch out for them and focus then as soon as you can. The don't try and rig too heavily but they let each other get more damage by not shooting each other especially near the end.
bleak jolt
@agile sphinx they streamed it on youtube like a week ago but wg can do nothing about it
cursive thorn
yes fuh4 counting
bleak jolt
its czech trash klan full of kids
wraith wraith
yez i agreee....
agile sphinx
@bleak jolt Wow they are more stupid than I thought, why stream yourself breaking the rules lol. It's a shame the only good evidence I got was from spectator cam on a different player so I can't get it...
bleak jolt
we wrote a ticket to wg but nothnig happened
wraith wraith
but they said, that they didnt break the rules
agile sphinx
Lol WG being great at letting people cheat again, what fun
bleak jolt
yeah its ok to be in rankeds 4 nibbas from same clan on discord and dont shooting to other clan mates thats really bullshit
fallen mortar
just dont tag them its usually the better choice
and youll probably get banned or muted for that profile pic
wraith wraith
nah, thats sounds fair
bleak crest
What’s the rating at which the points rewarded start to decrease so dramatically ?
terse sapphire
@bleak crest After u reach mid platinum
bleak crest
Thanks
wraith wraith
and youll probably get banned or muted for that profile pic
@fallen mortar 🙃
ornate spoke
@fallen mortar yeah... That's not okay. Change it please
fallen mortar
Mine is not okay or his? 😅
wraith wraith
Mine is not okay or his? 😅
@fallen mortar how do u know, that i am male or female? 🤔
fallen mortar
Don't even start something with genders or I'll start being a apache attack helicopter
fallen mortar
xD
ornate spoke
@fallen mortar since 3, the age when my mind was clear, i decided to identify as a teaspoon 👍
fallen mortar
Wanna Team up I could need a spoon in my crew 😂 I once dropped from a tree and hit the ground that cleared my mind and since that day I was able to see that I'm a attack helicopter
@ornate spoke idk why but in my mind what you've written sounds like a poem
ornate spoke
🤣🤣🤣
lime sparrow
Is Leopard 1 good for ratings? I’m about 50k away from it on the Leopard PTA
native marten
I played it a bit, tbh, no. It's fun in public matches but the armor isn't good (well duh) so imo it sorta gets outclassed by the other mediums
mossy badger
Not really bc of missile spam
Should WG put a limit on how many rating battles u play a day per tier.....? Or just make ratings only tier 10 again and set a battle limit
ornate spoke
@white acorn keep it second line or get some early cheesy shots and the leo 1 is effective.
pine falcon
I have seen a leopard or two, but in the current meta its better to play another tank. Leopard is way too fragile. @lime sparrow
cursive thorn
leo is not bad on rating , if you know how to play
native marten
that honestly applies to any tank, but still imo the leopard 1 shouldn't be your first choice for a medium tank in this mode
tanks like the stb-1 or t-62a have a much stronger turret and imo just better armor in general and they don't lack in dpm or anything, so most other mediums can just be a better replacement
lime sparrow
how's the e5 in ratings
native marten
e5 imo is a strong heavy tank
lime sparrow
climbed up to 3.7 again then suddenly my connection went bad for sevearl matches
quaint flume
How do you get a stock T49 in a ratting battle!!!!!’
native marten
@quaint flume pretty sure with the t49 he can run the non-derp gun because some tanks have a couple choices in their modules
tl;dr it's not stock t49 it's just the non-derp gun
grave skiff
all in favor for banning atgm tanks for ratings ✋
lime sparrow
ive yet to have a tier x match where there are no missile tanks. That's how much they're dominating the meta
restive dawn
Not gonna happen
tired vault
Lul
bleak crest
When are wargaming going to fix rating battles ?
late mural
Yeah. Still not at 5000+. RIGGED
bleak crest
Still not 4000 and still losses in a row with 2-3k top damage. Simply can’t win with those teams.
pine falcon
just be persistent in spamming battles and you will get to 5K. That is what I did. 690 games for 5K ... yeah boiiii, time well spent. I have something like 47 wr in the current season
cosmic cypress
Oof
agile sphinx
@bleak crest The teams are fairly well balanced, so if you have noobs on your team you have noobs to farm. If you have good players on the reds then you have good players to carry you 🤷♀️
It seems to be harder to get to higher ratings this season because of the larger amount of players going after the fearless so you get 5k average games fairly often. At this level you need to work as a team to win so you do less individual damage and so gain less points.
bleak crest
I’ve noticed that but amazingly in 5k battles I do better than in 2-3 k ones. My team doesn’t listen and splits most of the time. This goes on and on and I bleed points because of that. I get 25-30% win rate which doesn’t cover losses.
lime sparrow
Once was I matched with a 3.7k team (around my rating anyways). Except the opposing team was 4.7k. So that sucked
terse sapphire
native marten
lmao 2 minutes isn't bad, I saw someone else get into the queue after around 70 minutes of waiting or something
lime sparrow
3899 rn, what do you get at 4k again?