#rating-battles
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just entered a battle where anyone cant hit anything, jmand just a leo 1 could, didnt have the video and it was on rating
What's the point of rating battles?
When you have godly teamates that carry you in every game and you end up in platinum even though your a gold. I wished that happens to me. But it’s supposed to match you up with players on the same skill level as you. Even though at 3.2k i find 2.6k people, dont really care though because they arent even that bad. People who have a tier X has to be semi decent.
Having a tier X is a matter of pressing the button 'Battle' about 1500 times.
Yes, but doesnt it take some skill in grinding a tier x?
If it was a matter of pressing battle it would take 2k-3k f they were that bad. But a lot of the people i see in rating have decent Wrs and multiple tier X within like 10k battles or so.
Well, people who buy tier X as their first X, esepcially people who just started the game arent exactly going to be good...
Don't get me wrong : I do think rating battles should be open to everyone and that the matching of players' skills should be obtained through a reduced span of rating values.
But no, I don't think that having reached tier X is a guaranty of anything minimum.
btw my teams average ranking is 2650, not 3100
Quene just takes dam too looooooong
@ornate spoke I wonder how you are doing your maths here. It was 3102 something at the battle start.
@ornate spoke You're misunderstanding it. It's not meant to pair you up with people of the same skill level. It's supposed to create matches that are balanced based on rating so that teams theoretically have an even chance to win. If you play better than your rating indicates, you have a higher chance to win, if you play worse, you have a lower chance to win. Basically it's the "balanced" matchmaking that everyone always whines for, but no one plays it because "balanced" matchmaking sucks
Its not divided by 7 because one person doesnt have a displayed rating. It would work out as 3103
oh gosh sry
but I wonder if that guy would have a ranking even close to 3100
why do I even get matched with players having a ranking more than a 1000 under my ranking ?
Because there arent enough people playing rating for the queue times to be bearable. Its an awkward problem because people avoid ratings because of the MM and the MM is bad because people avoid ratings.
Why is tier 8 rating giving a lot more points compared To tier 10 or does it just feel like it...
it just feels like it because T10 is harder
Actually I found tier 10 to be easier to go up. Tier 8 is just very boring.
well, if u do the same dmg on t8 and t10 u get more points on t8, because the damage is compared to the whole dmg pool available
I don't care about that. I want interesting battles. Like tier 10 matchups and not stupid T8s with 3 russian heavies, 2 german TDs, a T49 and another random tank per each team. In tier 10 there is at least some diversity.
Yeah you tend to get a different combination of 6 TDs every game
i got 5,190 ratings . aww gotta make at least top 3
Gl man
idk why, but the game has just pulled me off of a ongoing match, i just want to know why
@dire osprey same here
@bleak cliff
I c
😄 i see u all the time
Yeah constantly see the same people
ikr
kk
some moths ago but still being good
Honestly, we all need mad games back...
It's coming back near Halloween
How do you get the camo?
It is??? Yessssssss
Pull out mastery in diamond
Not enough players in Ratings battle which make queue times ridiculous. Realistic battles are even worse.
Eh ya, mr lonely and also, this ain't the place for that stuff lul
Hmmmmmm I think this is a reason to @ mods ain't it? <@&481447501690568709>
back to ratings, people
what he said
Eeeh he posted a link to his discord server or something
Ight fellas, back to ratings; does anyone know the best time for those? It takes some time to get in one
Right when they end, so u can not play em
@normal garnet
@surreal sonnet wut...?
so what if you touch 0 rating?
no no, i'm just asking... isn't like i would do it anyway...
I guess its probably almost impossible to get to 0 rating unless you are extremely lucky/unlucky. The further down you get the easier it is to gain points afaik, so even with a low WR in ratings you will probably still gain points (definitely worth a try though)
Negative rating🤔
2:51 waiting time, nobody plays rating anymore, I get the same people every time. Maybe bring mad games back, at least that should give some fun.
@zenith trellis lol. You are complaining about a 3mins queue? XD you are funny man
Bet they make your recalibrate if you hit 0
3 minutes is a rookie number
dont play rating at 2 in the morning then?
Try being 5k + on Asia and your queue time goes to space as far as I know
Im 5k...i have very short queue times for ratings...dont know why so many folks whining
So easy...
Ratings Battles are a joke anyway... this is a team dependent game ... every loss and you lose 20-50 points... while every win nets you 10-20 points... so once you get your rating it’s just a roller coaster ride down to the next lower league... IMHO
I disagree on the joke part, though I do agree that the rating you win should be more dependent on your results
@pseudo forum dont just speak for yourself...not everyone is a noob
Ok maybe calling it a joke @maiden rain might be a bit harsh... but the average player (of which I am one at a 51% wr) never earns enough to even break even and stay in the league they calibrated into
@sonic pagoda BTW thanks for your oh so enlightening opinion
Ur welcome 😉
@pseudo forum do you have a premium tank? If you do use a 1h certificate and farm credits.
@pseudo forum I have no idea what you are talking about. Doing average in a battle (your tanks hp worth of damage) will get you a net increase even if you end up with a 40%WR in ratings. The system is designed so you constantly move up.
When does the rating battle end?
About 7 minutes after they start?
In about a month i think
Lol
Whose got the diamond camo and the platinum camo on the same tank?
Me
@cold hare Me. Whatcha need?
@pine falcon nothing. I was just wondering how common that is. What tank?
Type 62
Did they delay rating battles for today?
I haven’t played ratings in a while and last I heard there was something about there not being a ratings camo at 4K anymore
Did that actually happen or no?
Or was the 4K camo removed and the 5k camo made the only one, I think I heard that was a possibility too
at 4k u get the "diamond" camo, thats what I was told at least
Ah
4k+ u get the old camo, for 5k+ there is a new camo now
@cursive geyser there isn't. The 5K+ cammo is now available for anyone who reaches 4k+. There is no unique 5K cammo now
Oof
Only diff this season is the avatars lol
Bruh
Got into diamond, and this is what I see from the result list.
There are 155 players between 5000-5016 points. But only 4 players within 16 points below that 5000 level. It seems most have stopped playing once they reach their target level.
And the same thing with the platinum 4000 level. Probably many times more players have stopped playing after reaching that level.
Here we come back to the same old problem with ratings. There is just no incentive to play, so not enough players. The battles are harder, but rewards no better than in randoms.
The higher you get, the longer the wait times. And you keep meeting the same players again and again.
Anything WG wants to do about this?
(better rewards, such as higher credit earnings has been suggested many times)
Also, why not let us see the whole result list? At least for those above 4000.
I totally agree 👍
WG need to do something about ratings because the best incentive is the camo, which they ruined the exclusivity of for no apparent reason. The people in ratings are the same level as normal battles because good players have no reason to play. The game mode is dying slowly and WG have said they arent going to change anything. It shows quite a lot about WGs planning for the future...
grinding credits is easier in ratings much easier but harder when it come to your team and the enemy
they could make the good old move and let people grind stock tanks etc bringing back some players since i think the game lost lots of good players and gained newbs but that would lower the quality of battles again but back then ratings was played at least a bit
I think WG needs to just increase the size of the playerbase first (through better rewards, etc). Then queue times will go down and so more people will play. When they get to enough people they can implement a better points and MM system so you do feel there is a difference from normal battles and it is actually an good accomplishment to get to 5k.
Uggh why no different camo for plat and diamond league? There should be different camo that separate plat and diamond players.
as mentioned above, WG should make a system that keeps the player motivated to play ranked, after they've reached diamond league. Okay there is reward for top 10 or top 100, but its very small for the effort and time it takes to reach that level, you might say that we get rewarded more credits, but that doesn't make any difference cause most of the players at diamond spam gold like hell.
Spamming gold as in gold ammo?
Bruh
I spam silver
Then why not give the gold players something, if you cant reach 4K the whole thing is just a waste of time.
@agile sphinx funny enough I don't play for the cammo. I play for the diamond avatar and I quite enjoy myself in the process
@zenith trellis getting to plat is so ez many people get calibrated in it 😅
And if you can't reach plat I suggest that that person should play random instead, I'm aware that those players keep ranked somehow alive since blitz lacks good players, my old clan consisting of mostly unicums and sup unicums is pretty much done with the game because of its bad player base and the same problems being there for many updates but it was enough time to bring new prems so I'll agree with 183mm
My clan used to do an informal ratings race to see who could get the highest in ratings, but most of them dont even bother calibrating now because of how similar it is to random battles. The other way of restoring rating battes back to being good is to make the battles better through a change to the MM and points system, and hope that brings in new players and revives itself, but i would say that is much more likely to not succeed.
We got 11 people from the clan at Diamond. XD We use the avatar for tourneys.
I know gold is easy, most of the players are in them, including me, but what is the harm in rewarding that? At least they play rating, it keeps the game alive.
Give a 300 gold camo or so, it’s worth 6 days of ads watching, so what’s the big deal?
it isn't that hard to get plat, the system is designed to keep giving you more points
Well, not for me and you can’t say i didn’t try.
And note: before the mm improvements two updates ago, i always got into platinum.
And i am not complaining, i really dont care about stats, just reward the ones a bit more who keep the game alive.
And the system isnt designed to give you more points, in these two games i ended in each of them at 4th place, but in the end i lost 12 points. Its just designed to keep you playing without giving anything. Thats commerce.
if you're a decent player and play enough ratings, you're gonna move up, the problem is that it just forever inflates
check the top players in ratings for your server, they'll usually have a couple hundred battles for this season
I go for the free camo, I just use the veteran avatar lol
too bad you can't exchange the rating avatar for splinters
Avatars are useless to me lol
you'll change your mind after you buy an avatar crate
Oh yeah definitely
@zenith trellis in Gold you get like 40-70 points if you play decent in T10 and ending up on 4th place of 7 isn't quite well to be honest espacially with that WT auf pz IV which is probably the best T9 tank out there even outperforming it's T10 variant in some cases
@fallen mortar guess @zenith trellis ‘s winrate....i bet my left testicle its below 50%
If you started playing ratings late in month, you gonna find it hard to progress if you got calibrated in gold or below league. At least on EU server.
Getting calibrated in silver is hard I lost 9/10 once an was still in 3, 1k
It should be easier to gain points later in the season as most of the dedicated player play in the beginning of the season
aa11aa#3768 has been warned.
t95
The court does not have enough proof to carry further proceedings
@zenith trellis watch your language please
Read the context, we were just joking
Context doesnt matter if you use language not suitable for minors 🤦
hey guys whats the point of rating battles when i have 3300 and on battle i have to bronz guys after that i have battle with two diamonds and 2 platinum with over 4,5k?
not enough players
Its official u cant leave from 5.3k points, teams are horrible
You can certainly go down
why do you expect to continuously rise, is it because the system keeps inflating points?
Honestly, I try much harder in pubs, and I play with zero effort in ratings. Apart from the fact there is zero incentive (and WG doesn't need to incentivise ranked queues ever, dont @ me if you disagree.) and I don't have to protect winrate or stats. I just play it to exploit the fact I have a credit boost on my prem tanks, and as a PC player playing on my phone to practice. I think WG shouldn't go out of their way to "fix" the gamemode, especially with their current paradigm of solutions.
Ratings should not be like you are playing it, but there is no reason to not play like you do. It should be competitive and reward skill but it doesnt at all. If it isnt a change from normal battles then it should be removed. I dont want to see ratings removed but chances are that is what will happen with WGs attitude to it.
the mode allows you to farm credits and the chance to win some gold, but wait time can be very long. similar to random battle there are many cry babies who are salty and toxic.
There is legit no real chance to get to the top 10 😅
If you have a life then there is no chance*
And farming credits is definitely not a bug enough attraction.
@agile sphinx ya exactly...because the only way u can reach top 10 is you should play ALOT OF BATTLES...ive noticed that
Once ive crossed diamond league...i dont care anymore
@agile sphinx I hope everyone has a life...
Some people just dont have a very busy life...
@sonic pagoda your left testikel please
what does the leopard have to do with ratings at all
@zenith trellis u didnt show ur record...ratings dont matter
U can have my left testicle if you show ur record...and if ur winrate is good
lmfao
@zenith trellis show us ur record...i know u want it 🤣
@sonic pagoda wdym by record? Like max points earned ever or the rating tab on his profile with how many games he has played this season?
it's kinda harsh to just look at career only
I know but still a 44% career player cannot have a 70% current winrate
I know how it progresses...ive been all the way, same with life
why? XD
rating chat is not a scREEnshot channel
E-peen showcase channel :DD
Why are those people unable of reading
There is a #replays you can use to self promote this but get out the ranked chat
@fallen mortar triggered?!?! 🙃
Noob question... where do you find how many battles have been played in one particular tank for the current season ?
I believe it is impossible
u can only see with which one you played the most
Slt
Ok, thx
What tank do you reccomend of these for TX as im on 3800 and want to make a push for 4000 ; Foch 155, grille, Jpz100, or Obj 140
Foch 155, mindless tank to play and do well, if you do bad there is a problem lol
If you do bad in it theres a major problem
@zenith trellis please don’t try to flex your rating with an unimpressive one
Sort the matching out in ratings,losing over 6 battles in a row from nearly getting to 4k in points then constantly being put on losing ‘teams’ whilst usually getting the highest score then there is something wrong with the system!
Had players in multiple battles getting destroyed in the first minute! c’mon
If you are getting destroyed in the first minute then MM isnt the problem
Unless the foch goes full yolo
@sonic sedge first of all you can't expect to win every single battle. Also the fact that this late in the season you aren't even 4K yet means quite a lot as it shows you aren't exactly the best player. Also you should expect some of your teammates to be noobs, so try and use their mistakes to your advantage and farm damage while they are rushing and the enemy is focusing on them instead of you
If you are genuinely trying for ratings then getting to 4k wont take more than 2 weeks for almost any player.
I have to remark something this rating season. For me personally calibration seemed WAY too easy (got 4K+) but the points I gained even on good battles were low. I have this gut feeling WG are finally starting to do something about rating but secretly
It seems quite obvious to me that the calibration is just a period where your rating is not displayed but is actually starting from your previous one. If you were 4k+ in one season, there is no reason you would end up below 4k within 10 battles.
And I still find stupid the elitism of "rating should be only for the best of the best", which generally comes with "queue is horrendous in ratings".
No, calibration really starts anew every season. I guess it's from 3000 points for everyone, no matter where you ended last season. Which is stupid and irritating. With bad luck you can get calibrated into silver, and have to climb back up from there. And with good luck you can get straight into platinum.
I think it would make much more sense to start a new season with the previous season's rating (minus possibly some 500 points).
That could make sense. 3000 is the mean/average rating on EU. Concerning the 'dead easy' value of 4k+, it concerns less than 6% of the player base participating in ratings.
Here is what can be obtained from Blitz stars
By just spamming battles you can get to 4k, even if you play badly
The only problem is that not everyone can spend all day playing. Good players get there faster but bad players still get there
Espacially in the 2 month seasons
The game literally starts you out around 3500
@next gull where did you get the graph? i know it is from blitz stars but I can't find it anywhere
That is not a blitz stars graph
None of their themes have a grid pattern. That someone just using excel to plot random points
And the best part above that graph is that it is completely false due to it showing no EU player above 6000 yet there are 5 above 6000 rating
@pine falcon I picked some players from top clans, from mine and from... errr... selected clans. You have their rating and position in Blitzstars. Then, as it seems to go towards 70k players for the lowest rating I found, I normalised it to 70k to have a fraction.
@sour summit lol. The grid comes from the photo of my screen. You are completly right, the 5 dots at 6000 are completly changing the conclusion. Or, maybe, having the position as a function of rating is an information enough. What do you think ?
Closer to 20 and guess that at least 300 are higher than 4500 in rating skews your distribution and the fact that the average should be 3500 due to the fact that it is the actual amount given to those calibrating
So ? This just plots the relative position of the players, given by blitzstars as a function of their rating. Their is no statistics here, whatsoever. I really do not understand your point. If there are 70k players and the one at 3k rating is number 35000, the median is 3k. Period.
For instance
you can calibrate at 4.2k
Exactly. This is why I tend to think you are starting more or less from where you stopped. If your rating were reset to 3k at the beginning of each season, calibrating at 4.2k would mean gaining 120 rating points per battle during calibration. It seems a lot to me.
I calibrated at 2k9 this season even tho I finished the last season with nearly 5k ratings, everyone starts at 3000 and that’s sure, I already saw one guy calibrating at 4700, he played the 10 battles with an AMX 13 75 and didn’t lost any
I was nearly at 4k rating (like I have been before on other occasions) then I get dropped like a bomb back to 3600-3700 again for no reason..my play style doesn’t suddenly change but the teams I get lumbered with does!
play at a better time
Its quite funny how from 3k I upped to 5052
I believe the leaderboard is broken again as it isn't updating to the amount of rating I have
it's just slow. who cares about it anyways lol
Its quite funny how i got to 3.3k ratings, i must be an awesome player
So yes, teams are disgusting
4 battles 4 loses... Excellent MM
So thats,50
can you not
When the season ends ?? i want my 5k rating camo on AMX 13 57 😄
the end of this month
for what?
@sudden edge 31th October
Malevolence#4404 has been warned.
@glossy raptor thanks 🙂
thats pretty snazzy
Sat in queue for 2 hours and 10 minutes. Did NOT get a single battle. Not one battle.
I suspect everyone is playing the new game mode.
Might be helpful to check the people in your que. Your screenshot shows you had 9 people. That's not even enough for a 5v5 assuming everyone agreed on the same tiers. If there aren't enough people in a que, it's kinda odd you'd hang around for 2 hours. Better to just go do something else and check later
lol checking later isn't gonna change a single thing and if everyone had the mindset of there won't be enough people in queue, then rating battles will be even more dead than they already are.
People come in waves. Sitting there for 2 hours when there aren't enough people is a waste of time. If it's obvious not enough people are playing ratings, going to play a different game mode or something is a better use of time. Go play a couple battles and then check back. 10 minutes of waiting is one thing, 2 hours for 1 battle is another.
No they dont come in waves 😂. I doubt he's sitting there staring at his screen for 2 hours anyways, more like multitasking. It's not a matter of "going to play a different game mode". It's a message that there's something seriously wrong with this game mode.
I'm not arguing if there is or isn't something wrong with ratings. I'm saying if your goal is to play blitz and you're only sitting there in a que for 2 hours, it's probably better to just play a different game mode and check ratings later. People absolutely do come in waves, every server has times where you get more activity than other times. It's common for people in general to do things at a similar time. Many people go to work/school at the same time and leave at similar times.
There's no point to playing ratings, especially at tier 10. Queue times are horrible due to no motivation to play the mode. Yes I sat in queue for 2 hours. No I don't care that I did because I was doing other things. But seriously, 2 hours with not a single battle is poor. Only a small margin play ratings, and an even smaller margin go for the top spot, or top 10/100. I get that there can't be massive rewards, but ratings is literally put to the side, as an extra option for people.
In my opinion, ratings, and rating seasons should be more enticing. If the seasons were marked, like if you got top 10/100 or 1st 2nd ect, you get a special avatar or a special camo just for those placings instead of the league you're in.
Rating seasons are just put to the side. "And here are the top 10 from each server" and the that's it. One news item that barely anyone cares about. Nothing to really sell it. Yes there are small boosts to battle incomes and battles don't count to career stats, but there's no real competitive side to it. Half of each team is there just to grind their tank out and the other half is semi trying to win.
Right now each ‘season’ is 2 months, and 1st place gets 8k gold. Anything less really is too little for the amount of grinding that takes place to get first.
@bleak cliff I agree with that. Coming top 20 gets you 1k gold and that’s a lot of effort put in to the game to come to that place. Im currently place 18th europe and have grinded a lot for that but i dont really Care about the gold but anyway it aint much you get.
Ratings is so pointless I love it. I'm fine with how it is right now
Yeah i know its kind of pointless and i got no problem with how it is right now but better prices would be nice
I agree that not enough players makes queue times horrible. Ratings need to be incorporated into the Regular battle mode. How many times have I done 20, 30, 40 percent of the total team damage and still lost? Too many times. There has got to be a way to rate your contribution to battle and keep score. Add another column next to Win Rate.
That shows your average damage?
or they should just make you earn x2 credits at any rateing for all tanks. The higher your rating the more the credit multiplyier goes up. Then people would play the game mode.
Make Uprising ratings 👌
5 players with 5k rating against 3 with 5k awesome MM, Excellent WG keep it up
@blissful portal lets see what the problem with you post is. Matchmaking depends on vehicles not skill. Also, the 5 players on one team may have just gotten diamond league unlike the 3 players who might have like 5200 rating and not just a few points over 5K. Also third, if you don't like the matchmaking just stop playing, it isn't hard is it to just close the game.
But dont close it mid game please
The rating mm depends on vehicles AND personal rating so the team ratings don't have a massive gap
I find rating battles enjoyable currently. There are much less afk, players tend to try something. Just having more players participating actively to the action than in random games is already an improvement. Obviously I am on the EU server and far from 5k rating which make queues quite short.
even if you are 5K+ like me queues aren't that long. Max I have waited this season was around 8 minutes
Im at 6k and everyone is playing uprising so the queue is quite long
why would you do ratings when you can play 3 time's in one game?
Роидна#1550 has been warned.
And now with the new rating 5K cammo it will stay exclusive for diamond league for 3 rating resets and ... then it will be available for 4K
That's actually a good idea. If you want a new rating camo, get 5k or wait 6 months and get to 4k for it. Decent time for it to be exclusive. Then I'm guessing on that same time table we'll see a new 5k camo as well every 3 or so seasons
Its a small reward but effective as who doesn't want to have a sexy ratings camo on their tank
But I want an exclusive cammo for rating. Something like the professional Blue & orange are for tournaments.
If there is going to be an exclusive camo I think it would be for the top 3 or 1st place. Because that's where it would actually matter. Not just reaching a certain league
^
guys when this season ends and what the rewards?
is this camouflage available for this season?
Nope that camo is gone afaik
;-;
People very well know it should be only tier 10 (maybe tier 9 too). WG knows it too
But hey, they need to let inexperienced players in rating forcibly to complete missions which results in even worse rating battle experience
I would much rather have slower queue times and play with players that are passionate about the game mode than noobs who just want the mission completion thingy and don't care much about the gamemode.
U can get that experience on asian server
@pine falcon To be honest, I truly care for RB, even though i only own one t-X tank. I fight t-VIII(mostly) or t-IX. But, does it make me a less valueable player?
@earnest iris I think you misunderstood me. I like that you care about RB. But if you have 1 tier 10 it is understandable to for you play tier 8 otherwise it will become really boring. But put it this way with tons of tier 8s being in store every month a LOT of newbie players buy them and then realize they have access to a new game mode and jump in it with no knowledge whatsoever. As premium tier 9s and 10s are sold very rarely it will almost eradicate the problem. Also I consider every player who can win 50% of their battles valuable to the game.
yeah. ok.. that was clear as a statement, i can go with. Yes i also see premium tanks really often in RB (i personally prefer my VK100.01 or Typ 205 "Mäuschen")
Also another possible idea is for WG to make a feature that wouldn't allow premium tanks /collector tanks in rating but I doubt they will choose this over the other
@pearl shale I thought your prof pic was somthing different
Soo I'd like a battle minimum for the access of rating battles and maybe some kind of wr requirement but they'll need it to be something like 30 day stats but then there would be the lack of players again
There is no point limiting the entry to a mode that already barely has any players
@main anchor @static panther
English only please
If you make ratings be a game mode for the better players then the better players will play it
Next rating season: tiers 9 and 10, with SAME-TIER ONLY MM, please.
7 and 8 would be ok ONLY IF OP premium tanks are not allowed.
It is bad enough to allow P2W tanks in randoms, but utterly disgusting to have them in the most competitive game mode.
Also, much better incentives are needed to get more players. More credits, much higher season rewards.
@late mural, I agree that rating battles should have better rewards. I think there should be rating battle achievements that can get you rewards like a special crate or gold.
@late mural rating is not the most competitive gamemode. It gets severely outclassed by tournaments
“Fight against an equally-powerful opponent”
Yes
Possible rewards for ratings could be a special camo for 1st place, then a camo for 2nd-10th, and a camo for 11th-100th plus the gold rewards. This would add more than just increasing the gold amount as people want to look good, and if you can look good in a camo where you have to earn it through being a top finisher in a semi competitve mode, then that gives a reason to play. These camos shouldn't have to change every 3 or so seasons as if only the top 10 ( for example) get them, then they stay exclusive, but if there are camos for the top 100 then they should change every 3-5 seasons or so. Also somehow marking the seasons to make them more unique so if you look back 'oh I played a bit in season 10 of ratings and got X amount of rating and was x positon'. Would be cool to see who got top finishing in the past rating seasons and have a record of it.
I too think that WG should design a game mode and use server ressources to please a small fraction (those playing RB) of a tiny fraction of the player base (those 'good' enough, 'good' remaining to be defined).
Reducing the tier span to concentrate the players makes sense though.
Nobody plays rating with tier x :'(
There's no reason to. Even tho it is a much better tier for ratings as more tanks are balanced and there's just overall better gameplay, no one plays it as it just faster to get a battle at tier 8
They should separate tier 7 and 8 into its own league with its own rewards. E.g 8k gold for first. And 9 10 gets 10k gold for first. Or something like that. Or just get rid of tier 8 and 7 and possibly 9
A good reward for the first is not a good incentive enough. How many will get that reward (asks Mr obvious) ? Ok, how many can pretend seriously to that reward ? Not enough to start one battle, I suspect. And of course, WG will not spam gold which equals real money for them.
To keep more people playing throughout the season, there could be better incentive like additionnal missions to get more quickly weekly crates, specific crates (rewards/number proportionnal to League) associated with specific missions... anything that would make rating battles a game mode in itself.
Hello can someone tell me when our rating returns to zero? Mention me to answer me😁
@barren cape 31st October
Okey thx
@pine falcon spread out rating battles are good because they keep the noobs in tier 7-8
remember when rating battles were only tier 8? that was hell but tier 10 only wasn't all that better because all the noobs were in a single tier
the more players in one tier the better the spread on points, because if there is not enough players high skill level ones will get matched with low level ones and rating won't really do anything
But if should be high skill vs high skill, low skill vs low skill, but since there isn’t enough players, it’s high and low skill vs high and low skill, where you win if your have less or better low skill players on your team. Aka the outcome of the battle depends on how good or bad the low skill players are
ye, not enough players compared to eu and ru
We have pretty much the same issue on the EU server. I have had games where the rating of the players spanned 1.2k-4k. I suspect : 1/ uprising mode is draining a lot of players (I must admit it is fun), 2/ some have reach the rating they wanted, or simply got rated then stopped playing until next season.
The player rated 1200 I saw was placed 75000th. I reckon 75k players rated is not a small fraction of the player base on EU. It is just that they are not playing much.
Even if you’re 5700 rating on the NA server, you would still get people at below 3000 rating...
there's just not enough people playing rating and scoring high for rating to work properly
Atleast what I wanted from rating was only good players in a match, but what I kept on getting was 1 good player and 6 bad players(in score terms) vs 7 average players
Rating is just another representation of skill, maybe more accurate than WR. Maybe. Different definitely.
In any case, there is no reason that rating would have a player distribution very much different from WR.
But teams are balanced in term of average rating, generally.
ehh in it's current state rating only really tells how much free time someone has
Lol. Quite true
Rating is no indicator of skill
^
Ratings needs to be harsher, even in wins it shud decrease points for those who contributed very little (like bottom 3 or 4 in terms of xp)
@molten whale No. Your failing to realise that not everyone in the team can do at least 3k damage a match. Its literally impossible. So those who knock out enemies, but dont do as much damage should br punished? No. Because taking someone out is more important for the win, over dealing damage and not killing anyone.
Thats y i said xp and not dmg lol, u get xp by spotting tracking etc and not just dmg
But still, people who actually helped would suffer .
You idea would turn the point of ratings from winning, to competing with your team to not lose points. In the end, even if everyone plays there part someone has to lose.
As it is, the less you do the less points you get based on XP. thats enough. No need to make people lose.
U've got it the other way around i think, the system now is all about doing better than ur teammates coz dmg means everything rn so u start getting greedy and make selfish plays for dmg
But if exp determined ratings ppl wud make moves that win games
Like capping bases in supremacy for starters ecksdee
basing it on damage makes people hella greedy and campy you can farm way more by staying in the back and not doing anything useful
Thats fine, people need to be greedy and do the best they can. But making people lose points for doing less than someone else? Thats insane. It would kill ratings for people who arnt unicum. They won, they deserve a reward. Losing points on a win isnt fair.
When u dont contribute to a win , losing pts is all but un fair
Your assuming the system can determine if someone is efficient or not. Thats not something can be easily done.
aren't ratings supposed to make it so players of similar skill face each other instead of it being all mix matched. If you performed well and contributed to the win you should get points if you did little to nothing well then you really shouldn't advance
Thats how it is. The less you helped your team, the less points you get. But going negative isnt really fair, especially if you get ammo racked in the first shot.
well there is always the next battle for those things, I really don't think that because there is a chance of underperforming because of a rng thing you should be able to receive points if you did not contribute
Going positive is unfair aswell no?
I mean u got me on the ammo rack thing doe but really they r rare as hell
A singular instance shouldn't change how the whole system works
Coz the thing is, the players that r #1 on most servers r skilled i agree but they may/may not be the most skilled coz all players r not competing for that #1 spot coz they dont have time
Ik for a fact on asia ppl hv played more than 1000 battles to get to top 10 or something
Ratings currently is who can spend the most time rather than who has the most skill
The tier 9 B C gets ammo racked on a regular. Ive been racked at least 10 times in it. More than my entire career. Depending on how skilled the person is, and how well they know module placement, ammo racks are pretty common.
Ok so ur gonna base ur whole argument on ammoracks?
Coz thats the only example u hv given me
As I stated before ratings right now are in a state where a person who can play more advances further than a player who can play better. I understand that not all top skill players play ratings but the ones that do usually aren't in the top spots just because they cannot compete with the amount of battles other people can play
Your saying the bottom 4 PEOPLE should lose points. Really? Thats more than half the team. As previously stated, thats insane.
I believe that the solution to people who can play more advancing further than people who can play better would be to limit the amount of battles per day or whatever time period would make the most sense
Hmm how abt a certain xp limit den, if someone gets exp less than that dey lose points
Sounds better to moi
Hey, i had 1 less XP than you. So im gonna lose 20 points. Thanks
hmm
The loss in points shouldn't be that marginal, but I believe it still should correspond to the player's contribution in the match
I wonder if a system where the whole xp gained in the match would be summed up and depending on the percentage you got you would get rewarded a certain amount of points
That returns to, how are we going to appropriately estimate ones effectiveness?
an xp limit berhaps like @ornate spoke said, changes every match
In a perfect world the efficiency would be decided by a person
If you sum up the "efficiency" (in this case xp) and reward points based on how much of that you contributed with a certain point set as null and counted from that you would lose or gain points I really do not believe in a system where a victory rewards you points in a gamemode that is supposed to seperate individual people into skill groups. Rewarding people for victories only really should be used for games that are 1v1
I think all game play should be ratings gives us a idea the level of the gamer and slots them according these other modes just water things down .
This is all nice, but in the end it just changes the position of the median cursor.
Would that make more players being good ?
Would that make more players in ratings ?
Would that make teams gathering only players with same skill level ?
These are purely rethorical questions, btw.
Take out Supremacy from Ratings, no skill gamemode, unfair that a team that did better lose due to the bases.
Why ? Supremacy is a gamemode with clear rules. You know them. If you lose because you don't want to play by the rules, this seems very fair to me.
if a team did better, then they shouldn't lose because they lost to points
Lol yes they can
Having map control and holding 2 bases and winning on points means you played better then the reds, even if they did more damage.
Mad cause outplayed
D4rk is just salty cuz his team lost when it was their full health guy in a t28 proto vs 2 one shots, and we won on cap
But then again, d4rk was afk in another match so....
Bruh moment
Play tier 10 please, tier 8 is getting abused by tier 9 oof
I was afk so often in rating just because I was stuck in the loading screen or my laptop just decided to give me some nice bluescreens
does this only happen during ratings?
It happened mostly during ratings
But also in random battles which is frustrating in any way but it seems like it only happens when I'm playing blitz
If your laptop blue screens while you're playing s game then it probably can't handle the game or it's have another issue that could be related to the game
I have a gaming laptop that can handle most games but blitz
Strange isnt it? He’s not the only one with this problem
@fallen mortar I dont know but my laptop with intel core 2 do handle blitz very well
@bleak cliff never been afk at ratings so... Anyone can have a lost connection moment
Im not sure if salty after my superior team destroyed yours, but lucky was your team thanks to the unskilled Supremacy mode, just mad causd of the unlucky lose
Supremacy needs more skill than encounter 🤦
Supremacy rewards movement and capping bases rather than just camping and hope the reds push first
Lmao wrong, imagine a battle that both teams decide to cap and hide , at the end they start fighting and teams finish 5 vs 4 , they won for points
Where is the skill there they just capped and hide that is 0 skills
Skills are push with your team, tactics, teamwork
Capping is for people who doesnt want to Fight at all
Teams do not cap and hide, they cap and hold 🤦
That actually requires some intelligence, and some thought about positioning and anticipating the reds. The skills supremacy requires are holding/pushig with your team, tactics and teamwork so nice contradiction there.
Capping is for people who have a brain and want to force campers out of position.
@Colin#9978 i think you are talking about other game, this game is full of campers
Thats my opinion about supremacy, unskilled gamemode. I understand yours and may agree with some points
Now this sounds like you cant think of any more points. Campers are everywhere in blitz, but if you cap and hold some bases then you dont have to rush into them to try and win, youcan force them to move like they should earlier, or they will lose anyway
My laptop can handle games like BF5 and Ark and stuff without any problems on high quality but blitz has fps drops and crashes
I have always be wondering why tournaments where in Supremacy mode. Now that D4rk3st is saying it, it becomes obvious that it is to rebalance the game so that it gives a chance to the less skilled team to win.
What else could it be.
Which Camo I get with Platin? The diamond or what? And which I get in diamond?
Thx for the answers
Now in both leagues you get the previously diamond cammo (mainly black with a little bit of red)
We need to hold 1 night, where everyone on the Asia server plays ratings. It’s ridiculous at the moment. For like 2 weeks, I haven’t played 1 ratings battle because no one is in there. Ive never taken ratings seriously and the first season I do, uprising ruins it. #Inowhavedepressipn
Lol the hashtag
just i hate wargaming for your "equilibrate match fil and wait for nothing beacause i never found any match on normal battle
What?
Oh shoot I have to get 50 battles in the E100 before the season is over lol
How many days are left?
4
Well that’s unfortunate with the que times
This is nearly one battle every two hours. Hurry up you still have time 😬
there's always next season though
Looks disgusting. Like a fish that had it's scaled being exposed to the sun for too long without having been made wet
Eh it could be a lot better but it could also be worse. I still wont be going for it as its just going to be available to everyone in 2 months time and the entire point of having an exclusive reward is gone 🤷♀️
I sat in que for 15 minutes in the E100 and the counter didn’t go over 2 for tier 10s in que
Yeah, NA tier 10 is dead because the event
But it's minimum queue is 10-15 minutes without the events going so... Tier 10 is dead basically but its better for ratings as the tanks are semi balanced enough for it to take skill
@dire quiver lucky me, just played almost 62 battles with e-100 on rating
I have 35 done, I just couldn’t play any today
All battles should be ratings battles nothing else
Boring, playing a stock tank and it shows on your rating... thats not funny and grinding would be painfull for your rating.
1/ I think the player base understands more easily what WR is
2/ following Oggiv, ratings are meaningful (somehow) because they are limited to 2 tiers (7-8 and 9-10) and fully kitted tanks only
3/ better players would be punished because they would automatically have poor teammates to balance their level (not even speaking about platoons)
'better players would be punished' what the hell are you thinking about
First, how is that a good thing. Second no, they arent. It's basically the same teams as regular, except more brain dead.
The only thing that is punishing is the long queue times
Rating is literally where good players get on teams with brain dead players and whichever team has less or better brain dead players wins
@bleak cliff where in what I wrote did you see that I was saying it was a good thing ?
That’s just how it comes off
My English is not perfect, I admit that. But to me 'would' (I fear it happens) is not 'should' (I wish it happens).
does anyone know about the rewards in Ratings?
@normal garnet is that new ratings camo for real? Was it anounced already by wg?
@paper jacinth yes, they did a live stream. I would recommend watching it
Well done @median scaffold
Thx
Txs dude @normal garnet
1k battles to get into diamond?
its 6k not 5k
I’ve done 150 and I’m at 4700
Got bored like a month ago
Interesting. Got bored of what ?
rating battles is dead because literally went regular battles or uprising
There should be incentive throughout each season, not just a fancy cammo or some very unliky (for the vast majority) gold reward. Like additionnal missions or specific crates earned with rewards scaling with League. Nothing new, but for instance your daily crates would grant you epic/legendary boosters instead of regular ones provided you played one rating battle that day in gold/platinum league.
Need 2 points to get in top 10 and can’t get in a battle for a week now, thxs wg for ending ratings with event.
Oh boosters are so lame, and totally useless as well. Only gold and (parts of) premium tanks would be worthwhile as rating rewards.
This was just an exemple, although boosters are not useless when you are grinding tanks.
I admit this is not very exciting, but it is already an ingame feature, so it would not require a big modification.
Since premium tanks are more and more sold for real cash nowadays, I doubt WG would give parts of premium tanks, but that would be nice too.
Hi
Hi
Then i should be in it 😉
What's your name on the game?
Ratings doesn’t exist on Asia server anymore. Since uprising started, there hasn’t been more than 4 people in queue at any one time
Did the season just end?
Thought we had the whole time today to play
It’s unfair that it just ends 4 hours before it normally ends
Can I get Confirmation season is ended? Just so I can move on with my night in peace xd
Is there an explanation to why the season ended at 8pm est today when it regularly ends at 12am est? A full 4 hours before it regularly ends. And this was never mentioned that this would happen. Very unfair to players just to cut the play time at the end of the season for no reason or to never announce that it would happen
4 hours doesn’t seem like much, but in ratings that means everything. Every little bit of time is needed to gain points. Just suddenly ending the battles, especially on the last day of the season, with no heads up to just stupid.
So seeing as the battles for today and the whole season have abruptly ended, I’ll give my two cents on how to improve ratings to make it more appealing and competitive.
Leagues
I’m not talking about the already existing leagues like gold, plat and diamond. I’m talking about tier leagues.
There should be two leagues, each with their seperate first place season rewards. Tier 9/10 and 7/8. This means battles will only be tiers 8 and 7 or 9 and 10. Giving a better opportunity for players to have a fair chance at getting first.
The current problem is that at tier 10 you wait almost double the time in queue than if you were queueing at tier 8 and earn less points than if you were playing at tier 8. And both these tiers have their own play styles and metas, but having them combined right now is just stupid as if someone wishes to play only tier 10 for a season, then they have to do essentially double the work than if they were playing at tier 8.
This will also prevent tier 8s constantly being bottom tier, fighting against 3 tier 9s or more on the enemy team.
So there should/could be 2 leagues. Tiers 7-8 and 9-10.
Tier limitation
Tiers 8 and 10 are the most competitive tiers. And tiers 7 and 9 are just ‘fill’ tiers in ratings. Meaning they are just there to fill the open spaces that are open in the battle. They don’t provide a competitive sense as tier 7 is constantly bottom tier and depending on which tier 7 tank you get on your team, then they could either be completely useless and can barely do damage, or they can kind of hold their own but not really.
And tier 9, when facing tier 10 it’s the same, but more tanks can hold their own better, but tier 9s can be placed in tier 8 battles. Tier 9 is an awkward tier. The tanks do fine against each other, but if they are against tier 8s they wreck, but against tier 10, they either do decent or die. But when facing tier 8s they just completely out class almost all tier 8s and what’s the point of that. On average there are 2-3 tier 9s in a tier 8 match and they for the most part perform the best in the battle due to being overall stronger, even tho they are just there to fill the battle so players can get a match slightly quicker.
I suggest that ratings be only tiers 8 and 10, (if possible only tier 10 as it is the most competitive tier, as well as most of the tanks are fairly balanced so it actually tanks some skill instead of just hoping in one of many broken tier 8 tanks and driving and just pressing buttons and getting a win.). Ratings should be about competitiveness not just who can be top tier and have the best chance of winning.
Overall rewards/incentives
Currently the rewards for the top finishers I believe to be decent, but I do believe that first, second and third should have their own rewards. Currently First gets 8k gold, second and third get 6k gold. Apart from being a gold reward, there could be some sort of top 3 or first place Camo and/or avatar that shows off the achievement of the player(s) the reach the top of the rating season. These don’t have to change every so often, but just getting something other than gold would be good.
As of right now there isn’t really any way to know or remember what rating season you played in and what you got or who got what position. If there could be some way to see who got, let’s say first, in a previous season it would be cool to see who first, second, third, ect, in previous seasons. As well as marking the seasons, so people could know which season of ratings instead if just naming the seasons based of the months of the year.
Currently there isn’t good enough kick for players to play ratings, grinding to the top unless they just want to. Yes the addition to credits and xp are good, but no one really knows unless they actually play. And with advertising the seasons. It’s just 2 news items. One st the start of the season announcing the rewards for the next and at the end, announcing the top finishers. Even if there was a mid season news item, that could bring more players into ratings mid season so it isn’t just dead because people lose interest in the mode as a season goes for 2 months. It’s good that it goes for 2 months, but people do loose interest in playing as it is a big task to keep playing if you wish to keep or claim positions.
Point gains
As far as from what I can see point gains are based on damage done, spotting and team assistance. But the higher you go, the less points you earn there isn’t any way to fully know what to do. For example, I did 4k damage one game and got 3 points, than another game I played a little more aggressively and got 3k damage, but got 7 points. The only thing I can think of is assistance damages from tracking and spotting enemies is what was the difference in those point gains. It hasn’t really been explained how the points mechanics work and it would be nice to have a deeper understanding on what contributed to points gained/lost.
Season usually ends before the end of the day
Agree with @bleak cliff
Another thing on point gains, It might depend on which team is "favored" to win a game based on average rating of both teams, or different tanks may gain points at different rates
I can't find an alternative explanation to why I got more rating points in my 215b battle than my 268 battle some time back:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/594573825715208242/622991839364120577/unknown.png?width=912&height=513
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561708253172596737/622987685333696513/unknown.png?width=875&height=493
spotting?
perhaps
but the 268 game had better damage, xp, and assist damage diff was negligible
I didn't see the 4 spots on 215b vs 0 on 268 until now hm
guess that's probably the reason
I haven’t gotten my rewards when should I expect them?
Depends on WG
It's taken a month for me before but usually it is within a week
Kk
@bleak cliff Rating seasons always end early on the last day for over a year now, it's a shame it's never posted but it is what it is. And in the grand scheme of things, four to five hours don't account for anything significant in a rating season that has two whole months of alotted playtime.
Also, I understand that queue times on tier x are pretty bad, but simply diving players into two different leagues will hardly solve your problem.
Wargaming has introduced a one tier queue system and it did much worse than expected at increasing the rate of battles. Dividing into two leagues will hardly increase fairness, it just forces players to play eight or ten (when we follow your system), because playing 9 and 7 means you will always go against similarly skilled players in objectively better tanks.
Additionally, you're simply casting off tier 9 players with this division, which is especially tragic as this is really the only enviornment where people can play the tier in a pseudo competitive enviornment. Furthermore, your solution can only shift which tier from being bottom tier, from 8 to 9. (I won't talk about 7 for obvious reasons).
While, I don't understand the 'double the work' argument you're making here, I think you're overexaggerating the meta problem. The pub/rating meta stays very consistent on a map to map basis, and decent competitive, especially rating and tournament players may favor certain maps, and perfer certain tanks. I'd be very suprised to find a situation where a player is limited with meta creating factors. While, it might find jarring for some to adjust to the nature of tier eight tanks, many rules and fundementals that apply to tier 8 battles on a macro and micro level apply to tier x. I'm saying this as a caller for a high level tier 8 team, and a player for a high level tier x team.
Regaring tier limitation, I agree with the tier 7 situation. But for tier 9, I think it's a very reasonable situation.
First, there is a reason why people play that tier in ratings. Personally, I enjoy the challenge of trying to carry in a bottom tier tank, and it's pacing allows for a little more fun in grinding.
I disgaree with your perspective on tier 8 and 10 being the main tiers, and maybe this is a over extention of your words, the only tiers we should focus on.
Rating in World of Tanks is meant to celebrate and appreciate the diversity of tanks, and simply casting tier 9s out for being the 'in between tier' is a little saddening.
I think you have cool ideas on the point/mmr gains, and I think it would be cool to see my results from old seasons.
Yes tier 9 is its own thing and enjoyable at that, but I just do not like how strong they can be when versing tier 8s, which is mostly what ratings contains. Tier 9 opens both options to the player to either be top or bottom tier, but they will mostly be top tier as that's where most players are playing.
I played tier 9 for the last week for ratings and it was much easier than tier 10 simply because of being top tier for every game basically. I don't really like that as from a game competitve view, tier 9 doesn't stand out, only in ratings it does.
I played a lot of battles at tier 9, I can tell you I was not top tier for more than half of my games. (Maybe there is observation bias here) Albeit I stopped playing in October, from previous experience from prior seasons, my ability to simply hard carry was questioned by the nature of the tier x or tier 8 focused queue.
Yeah, at the start of the season, there were enough tier 10s and 9s for their own games and that's good, but when popularity dies down in the mid-end of the season, tier 9 shines through being a main tier
Ive never taken to tier 9, this season was the first as I was trying to get first, and that's where I'm coming from.
I think it's healthy to be ambitious, but a majority of players, inclduing myself, just only want to play the tanks that are fun in a mode thats relatively speaking, funner. Like I said earlier, those players play tier 9 for a reason, and its good to see a different tier, apart from 8 and 10 being a main tier and not a fill tier.
Yes, I use to grind tanks in ratings, or play for in it or just play without care, but from playing one season where I was trying to climb, having tier 9 or 7 tanks were a trouble as they were either stronger or weaker. Everyone plays the mode for a different reason and I can accept that, but some or most players do not really care about their rating and just want to get experience which is frustrating to watch if you do want to climb.
I would like the see the mode be competitve, but i know it's not going to happen any time soon
It is a lot harder to play ratings rather than pubs, and I feel its going in the right direction in that aspect. It's really not about tank compisition, and about the capacity of players. This is a problem that doesn't have a solution apart from appealing other top players from pubs. Or to get new players to be excited about ratings.
Yeah, there isn't a good team balance as there aren't enough players. I believe the early intended match maker for ratings was to be 500-1000 difference in personal rating, but that's been long forgotten due to the lack of players
Sure, I think so too.
I'd love to see ratings be the way for people to show individual strength, but there isn't much interest for most good or above average players due to queue times and probably the time allocated to playing each day which I do and don't get. Limiting the time in which people can play this mode is strange. On one hand its good for people that can't play 24/7 but on the other, it limits the highest rating or some, to reach as they dont have the time or can't play at the allocated time
Ratings is just a way for people to get a free camo on a tank and possibly gold. There isn't anything else going on with it which is sad
Well, I believe in building rewards for the 99% to reach. For example, I'm happy with the current system for garnering camos in ratings. I disagree with having camos where realistically, the less than 1% can only get. 12 players (3 finishers per server) is a very low amount of people who are able to enjoy the camo. I think the rewards discussion is overvalued as a method of gaining players and interest. As there is a fine line between the 1% of players who hog all the rewards, players who don't have a requirement to spend anymore money on the game, and the 99% players who are either to get way more out of the game mode, or realize that they cannot get anything at all and simply give up. At that point, its better as well as harder to improve on the overall experience.
I found it a little annoying about how certain players were always on queue in the game mode, but its a question for reasonably skilled players about how devoted they are to the mode. Its a shame how thats the standard that is being tested.
Yes I agree
With rewards though, if there was something better than just a camo, like if it was play X amount of battles to get Camo then if you play X amount more you'll get something else, like credits or certificates or something
sure, I just want it to be balanced and healthy for both the players and the company
I have no idea what a good reward for the top 3 (or 10) could be. On EU those are less than 0.01% of the players in ratings. But still, something special is needed.
To me, the need is to have more good players, who know they will never make it to the top 3, playing ratings. In the end, to reach top places you need opponents to start games.
I believe more in distributed rewards based on the current rating throughout the season. They can be based on the current features of the game. An easy way would be to implement them in daily or weekly crates.
I think a different way of awarding points so you dont constantly move up even if you do badly is needed, then getting to 5k will be a genuine achievement and not just showing that you have lots of time. That means you can give out semi-decent rewards to 5k players, like a prem that changes each month. Also WG need to do something about the exclusivity of camos etc. I would say have 2 designs per year (1 for 5k, 1 for 4k), and every 3 months the colours of it change. This means that your reward properly represents your achievement and when it took place. I would also say a legendary camo that is the years design but all gold, silver or bronze should be given to first second and third. It would then change the name of what tank its on to have "1st Oct 2019" afterwards. It would be a nice nod to the best players in the game, and im sure lots more people would go for that.
@loud minnow i read somewhere that it depends on the rating of the ppl u are doing damage to
I dont like the new camo i prefer the old one
So if I have 5k rating I'm gonna take this cammo?
@noble atlas i think so
This brand new camo is a reward for the Diamond League in November.
yay they gave me a reason to play ratings again
November camo where?
When the 4k camo looks better than the 5k camo 😂
coming?
Maybe
@glossy raptor the rewards for each season are distributed about a week from the end of the season
Ahh ok
Would like it to be a bit shorter but what can ya do 🤷♂️
I will say that rating mm is pretty bad on NA. due to lack of players, it ends up putting me with people who are more than 3k points below me
If there weren't any higher rank people playing, mm often tried to balance teams by putting 2k-3k players on my team versus 4k and 3k players on the other team
Which meant that it was either easy damage or my team died quicker than I could do anything
People don't play mid season. Most of the grinding occurs at the start of the season or the end of the season. Many people just grind to 4k or 5k and quit
Exactly
When do we get our October rating camos
And what even sadder is that I’ve played with or against half the players in that screenshot
Yah Ratings Match making is off the chart.
@late mural here’s the new 5k camo
Not gonna lie I like it
Hm
Not bad
Looks pretty good, will probably go for it this month then watch as WG ruin every reason to go for it by making it available for 4k and 5k players next month...
@median scaffold thanks
Np
I’d like to see that new camo on a green tank
Why not black and purple????
Need to see it on my progetto
Do hope rewards are given before new season lel
I want fancy camos ;-;
I want my renewed diamond avatar
So... new rating season, but nothing new. Same tiers, same poor rewards, same minimal credit bonus, and same meaningless XP bonus. Oh there IS the new camo, but since it can't be tested on any tanks, don't even know if I want it.
Hey WG, many here have given advice how to improve this competitive game mode (like better rewards, more credits, limiting tiers), but you just don't listen.
So ratings will continue to suffer from lack of players. Maybe this is no problem on the biggest RU server, so that's why you don't care.
Why do you even have this channel? What use is this Discord for??
when do we get the camo ?
... one of the most common question on this channel
One of the only ones
This channel remains dead till the season ends and after that the only thing spammed here is ”where are my rewards”
You’ve played 60 days or so, why does a few more days matter that much, they’re coming wait patiently?
This channel is pretty dead because WG never responds here or looks at why people dont play ratings. They still havent realised that the only reason people play ratings is for the exclusive camo, which they then give to the 4k players soon after.
each 5k camo lasts about 3 seasons before it is lowered
Wrong area sorry
When the new camo comes will my old diamond league camo change ? Or should I get diamond league again in November to get it ?
You need to get Diamond league again to get it
Ok I'll do it again no problem
It is not completely true that nothing we write here is taken into account. Look, we have the names of the top 3 players on each server now.
slightly ironic
Yay...
do you only get the camo for one month?
Unlimited time
Ratings to me is more of an annoyance due to the mission requirement and the fact that i run into a lot more people who'd rather run their mouths off than play in ratings. The lack of significant tangible incentives doesnt help any.
I said a more expanded version of the following somewhere on the forums but I'll repeat it here in brevity (since im typing on phone).
Make ratings seasons actual seasons lasting some number of months (1-3) with breaks in between (at least a week, up to maybe a month). Participation is mandatory and applies to regular battles, not its own queue. Base exp earning multipliers start at x1 for the lowest rating tier and acts as the default start. As a player's rating increases, so too does their bonus multiplier as is already implemented in the current system. The way MM would work is to consider rating values as a weighted value, more frequently placing like rating values in the same battle (# of players queued permitting) or at least balancing values enough to be roughly equal on each team, defaulting to the regular MM scheme when there aren't enough players. Players who would rather not have their ratings weight taken into MM's consideration can opt out (pausing their rank value until toggled back on) and their rating viewed as a default value, the players being placed into teams as with the usual MM algorithm. Players opting out will also default to the x1 base earning multiplier.
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In this scheme, participation only provides additional bonuses if you perform. Opting out (though there would be little reason to) or being bottom ranked would be more or less the standard battle MM. To prevent stagnation of somebody grinding a high rank then opting out, rating values will begin to degrade after a period of inactivity (~1 week?).
Participation rewards should scale with rating tier and should have some of the following in some combination for both participation and performance (ranked lowest rewards to top): avatars, camos, credits, boosters (rarity may scale with rank), premium time, certificates, gold, loot boxes, and maybe a premium tank for the top 10 of all ranked players.
Hi, is there anything for those who have stayed in the gold league? Thanks in advance.
@viscid compass you get an avatar
Ok, thanks.
Finnally wargaming listens to my prayers. Rating battles are actually worth playing
What have changed?
Yeah
Now there are rewards for players withpls higher rank
rewards like?
Camo or avatar
Look in #game-news
that's literally the same rewards they give every season
it's just that there's camo rotation now
@ornate spoke this makes me think you have never played rating..... at least the past half a year
Yes, i have not
I almost dont play rating battles there is almost no ppint besides of that maybe more rewards
I would genuinely like to know the thought process that Wg has taken to lower the top 10 gold value of the rewards. 3k for first is plainly not worth playing for 2 months straight if someone wants to get first.
Yes I understand Wg doesn’t want to give out too much gold, but 3k is far too little without any other type of rewards for a top 10 finisher
This is so dumb old 5k camo will be 4k camo and new 5k camo is different 😑
Feels painful
isn't this the wrong camo??
Did wg give out the gold for the top players? Of twister season?
Isn't this season just a month long though... I looked at the news for it and it says from Nov. 5th to Nov 30th
@hollow mica yeah I also got that camo, but I'm pretty sure it's the wrong one... can anyone else confirm? (that that's the wrong camo reward for this season and/or that they got the same (wrong) camo for 4k rating (I'd assume 5k got the right one, but 4k and 5k had the same camo reward this season iirc)
u guys diamond or platinum
I finished in platinum, but that shouldn't make a difference. This is from the news article about ratings during twister season. Finishing platinum or diamond shouldn't have made a difference in what camo reward you got (for this season) according to the article. If I had known that finishing in platinum would get me the old platinum league camo, I would've grinded to 5k... I don't know did wg mess up the camo reward or am I missing something here?
^
Same camo issue which is not mentioned in the twister season.
I think I also got the wrong camo. @patent pier shall we open a ticket? Or are u guys already on top of this?
@paper jacinth We're dealing with it, don't worry. I'll give you guys an update when i have new info
Txs dude! And good morning. @patent pier
Yeah... I was wondering about the same thing to. Thx m8
(Asia) ratings battles are a waste of time in my opinion, normally longer waiting times and the rewards for the battles is not worth the time, might as well play 2 normal and get more credits. i do enjoy having slightly better people on my teams but there is always the people who run away from the team and die then get salty.
Yeah and all you get is a camo and an avatar. Not really worth it
just waiting for my chatban to disappear so i can finally play ranked and flame them all xD
huh why we didn't get season medal for doing twister rating season?
Season medal? I think you are mistaken somewhere. Perhaps you mean avatar per league
i know you are long in blitz... i mean this one
that stripe surely for clan but the medal? i'm sure it's from climbing rating...
tbh only the reason why i play rating in twister season since the reward is crap unlike last twister with that M41 but in steroid 90mm
it's sad that they never implement any commemorative token for any event again
¯_(ツ)_/¯
@somber pagoda can you just give me the persons in ame name you took a screenshot of his medals?
it's literally on my account lmao
ASIA Kudryatsev
there is also some on my clanmates
I’m almost to platinum, quite nice for my first real try at rating
Maybe he spotted?
As far as I know, your rating depends on the exp you earn in the battles
It does @foggy trench
On this tank this camouflage😂
It seems like for some how made it to platinum leuage got the brown rating cammo and some got the black rating ace cammo. Why?
I wonder why people dont play ratings, especially when games have 8 people under 5k games in them 🤦
The quality of ratings is worse than normal battles
just wow, this camo is really nice
I suppose many players are rushing ratings to quickly get calibrated and then forget about it until next season.
Wait.. I finished on Diamond league..and now I get put into low gold league after calibrations lmao
Guess I gotta grind all over again..
Yep. The problem with ratings is that it's more just a grind than a system of sorting the best players.
Calibration in its current form is RNG. I was quite lucky this time, got above 3700.
Exactly.. I grinded so long and hard and managed to get to diamond league.. and now after calibrations I flipping get put into pretty much the bottom of gold league
One of my friends who also got to diamond got put into flipping silver league...
Diamond doesnt even require long and hard grinding
It kind of does
But anyway.. u shouldn’t be put into silver league like my friend after u manage to get to diamond..
Now now, in my encounters in rating battles I actually fought agaisnt and alongside pretty competent people.
Competent teams in ratings... It's been 50-50 for me. Half of the time it's yolo or camp-fest. The other time it's an absolute wipe as the team somehow manages to coordinate a wolf pack with everyone.
I think the one how wins the rating is the best player
I’m playing in my lttb tier 7, just so you know.
Just like i do rn @foggy trench
Can´t the one how wins the rating period get a golden cammo for that period to the next period. A cammo that wandering.
That’s a good idea
Yeah so every one can see who is the best player among the ranks
And I have lost 3 battles to lucky jerks
If the result of your game relies on luck then you dont deserve the win...
This is not OK, this need to stop now.
Ah yes ofc, we need to stop people from losing battles immediately 🤦
If someone comes in here complaining about a loss for no reason then i dont see why that is a bad thing
I would wait that all the bad players that want being calibrated then stop playing... well are calibrated.
Thats probably the best to do
Should get quieter in a week.
Wow 3k is so impressive, if you do that much then you obviously should win...
@next gull thats how it usually is
Yes they did, that doesnt mean he needs to come here complaining about losing though, does he?
Lmao
He is just blocking up this channel with useless information which isnt helpful to anyone else...
:)
He might as well have put it in #610791903956303872 and raged about how MM is rigged against him...
WhAts the amount of trophies to get the camo?
4k
Nice idea to put many players with 346 avg dmg and less than 3000 battles in rating teams. But are you in the wrong team you can quit the round under 1 minute.
I hit diamond rating last season and got my camos for the tanks I've played at least 50 battles in,but I only received 2 camos. One for tier 8 and one for tier 10...I played 2 tanks in tier 8 with both being over 50 battles,but only received for the one tier 8...some explain please.
You only get the camo on your most played tank at that tier, so you can get a maximum nof 4 camos per season.
So not in the same tier then..that kinda sucks. Thanks.
I didn’t get my camo yet
@dire quiver wym, it’s says u did
But it says I did
Did u check the tank u played the most games in?
Yes, I played like 51 in the T49 to make sure I got it
I’d check all of ur tanks that u played ratings in. Never know
I played only the T49 and E 100, and the CDC once by accident
I didn’t get to 50 on the E 100 though since Uprising came around
And @patent pier has the issue with the camo been fixed? We got the 4K one instead of the 5k for finishing in platinum, even though the news stated that the 5k camo was going to be rewarded
Not a single one of my tier 8s has the camo
Wait hold on, it’s there, it just didn’t have the little indication of a new camo this time
I’m a little bit dumb
hi, do rating battles influence overall stats like damage per game or win rate ?
wooohoo first day big progress, already tier 7 and 8 done for getting the new camo, only 9 and 10 left
I'm pretty new here, I only have a T8, the RU251, and a couple of T7 tanks and I'm not sure if it's worth it to try the rating battles ...
It's only 23 CET and rating has to close?? 16k players online still.
2 more hours please.
@ornate spoke I recommend getting experience at tier 10 first. Atm there is very little difference between nornal battles and ratings and there are very few rewards so there is basically no reason to play ratings.
@agile sphinx thank you , I think I will take your advice 😀
You can try it, but the toxicity, longer wait times etc isnt worth it at all imo
I love this camo omg, he's so beautiful on the chariot
@ornate spoke do you know if the ratings camo big/glitch/malfunction, whatever you wanna call it, will be fixed soon?
Familiarize me with Ratings battles. If I'm #16 in Platinum, is that good or bad?
I got the old camo, hyelp
Make rating battles supremacy only. Encounter is way too campy when there is good players. And mines is just nightmare
Guys to get the gold do you need to reach top 10 or finish 8n the top 10?
@maiden rain Finish in top 10
Can I get one camo for a tier 8 tank or for 2 or more?
@glossy raptor damn
@fleet sinew you can get 1 cammo per tier per rating reset
@maiden rain yeah i know and its only 500 gold
Feels bad
I think wg should increase the rewards for rating at the end of a season, and give different rewards starting from gold. Idk maybe like small crates for gold medium for plat and big for diamond. And depending on the rating you get a certain amount of them. Also what use to be call is to have a camo that ONLY diamonds could get. Feels bad when in rotates. That’s what good players are looking for: being unique and distinguishable on the BF.
Jo wargaming, i keep bumping into these players who dominanate the whole game, can’t you fix this problem?
#610791903956303872
Also that's normal, you just get god gamers and seal clubbers stat padding all the time
Given the 1362 average damage, I’ll say that’s a sealclubber
Lol
how do you even get dominated by sealclubbers xD they are so pathetic when i meet them in ranked
If i have 55 games in tier 8 but have played 5 tanks each with 11 games and get 5k rating, which tank gets the camo?
the one shown in your ranked thing
But why though, why does that tank get the camo xD just curious, i know what tank i want it on and ill play it till i get it
Can't they just give you the option when the ratings reset, then you can have a look at how that camo actually would look like on a few different tanks before choosing
that would be great but too time consuming for them i think
well i don't like the new camo reward for diamond rating so yeaaah i'm not gonna doing rating maybe after they change new camo i dunno
why not just climb only into platinum and get that camo instead
that also mean i can't climbing the top 100 so no
id rather want to get a camo cert for the rating camo insted of choosing on which of my T8 i played in i want it @iron zodiac
that would be cheat to put something like 'rating camo' into your insert your 5 battles lifetime tier 8 tank
i prefer this way since muh challenge
@fallen mortar Yeah that would be cool
How do ratings work
Is it the lower the number, the better?
Higher number. @sick dune think of it as a cumulative score that grows the more you win.
life’s hard :((
Can you also change the ratings an hour to match the time change? Please 🙂
finished the tourney and ratings had ended
i play rating when pro play tournament. k
@patent pier do you have any news with the wrong camo for the rating battles in October or it will remain right now?!?
Top 10 NA with 65% of games in tier x matchmaking. O M E G A L U L
OwO
long way :((
lol'
@vestal oxide what do you mean wrong
And there are still players thinking that a camo is not a good incentive enough
Lol
I go for nothing more than the camo
u only get the camo
only if ur in the top 5, that u get more, which is just some gold
@patent pier camos are here!!! say txs to the guys 💪
thats a pretty sweet camo BTW, maybe a white version could look cool too?
@paper jacinth did u finish in platinum?
@normal garnet yes
@paper jacinth I finished in platinum too and got the wrong camo
Maybe they’re fixing it by server
@normal garnet yes thats what happened to me too. More ppl had it. Ribble said they were on top of it. Maybe its as u said, solving it by server.
@paper jacinth was the old camo taken away? Am just curious cuz idk what to expect
@normal garnet yes the brown one you can not get for other tanks anymore. Nice stats dude!
Oh you mean if I got to keep the old one? Already had it for the tanks, so in that case idk.
Ah. @paper jacinth 30 days?
Now the original rating cammo will.become priceless if it doesn't come back. And I like that
I have it on the SU-152 lol
how's the grind from 4k to 5k?
Knowing them, the camouflage will eventually be sold for gold
Dear Wargaming, just because I am grinding tier 7 tanks doesn't mean I want to play rating battles. I am not ready for those battles yet. And when I don't get top modules yet how was I supposed to play ratings? Buy premium tanks?
Please unlock rating mission when people have researched fully a tier 8 tanks please. Even better if they have fully research a tier 9 tanks.
@neat tree it is an OPTION to play ratings at lower tiers. You do not have to, no one is forcing you to. And they made it that you have to have 100% crew and full modules because if people play stock tanks in ratings, it ruins the experience. And no one is making you play ratings anyways. It’s an OPTION.
@normal garnet I think he is complaining because he has a ratings mission but none of his tanks can even play in it. It is a perfectly valid complaint for the events that you have to complete missions for.
How am I suppose to complete my mission when the rating battles ARE CLOSED!!!!
@normal garnet one of my missions is to win three rating battles.... I have one because they are closed now. I feel @neat tree is in the same situation. We are forced to play them if we want the two season coins and all of our missions completed.
Exactly. Normally I would ignore that kind of mission. But there is this event. I know I can buy the tank outright, it is listed in the store. Besides there are credit rewards, gold and premium time if I don't want that tank. So I want to do my mission to let my wallet rest a bit from all the exercises it had done recently.
how to increase my rating
@neat tree now I agree with you. Sorry, I didn’t understand your first message.
When i was playing rating for 10 calibrations i just got 6W 4L but all that 6W have 2k-4k worth of dmg and why i putted to Silver?-2687
Dmg isn't everything you know
Its the xp
If you play passiv and farm you won't get good exp unless you do insane amounts of dmg
@normal garnet all good.
yay
I confirm they fix the problem with camo
how its possible that i have 4200 rank and i get team with 2900 avg rank its super stupid to play rank full of bad players and no one play it so you get low rank players to play with
0-0
@fossil moth the reason for that is that they need to balance you out, the higher u get, the worse ur teammates are (usually)
@crimson goblet rip but not funny to play vs or with -1300 rank points than you
i know its terrible,i had a game (im at 5.1k) with 2 players below 3k
Carrying or being carried. No other alternatives.
You know it messed up that WG doesn't count on how long u wait in rating room. Allowing people on the leaderboard pass because they get in battles more than i do, as they catch up on the leaderboard and then passes me. What a really unfair game mode.
Im even switching tiers and still not getting into rating battles and other people are getting in what going on WG!
bruh calibration makes no sense at all
i wonder what the limit of waiting hehe
how's the type 59 do in ratings? feel like it sucks when it's heavy td matches
What is the purpose of having rating game mode in blitz if u can't use it barely wg?
@ivory bone what rating are you at and what tier are you playing.
i tried 10 and 8
Aight
my rating is 4,933
That explains long queue times. Too high for everyone right now
:0
If you want to get higher you have to get use to the long queue times. 10-15 minutes minimum
oh i didn't know they go by rating queue time, so if i was low i would be getting more battles, thanks for making it clearly to me
👌🏻
The match maker needs to balance the average team rating, and since you’re the highest early in the season, it will take awhile to find a fair enough match
im the highest what do u mean? highest winrate?
You’re number 1 Rn in ratings
:0 i thought it very quick to get to 5000 rating level
Not too quick but yeah it’s easy enough to get to 5k
where do i look to find where im at cause i didn't know im number 1 in rating, im new to this mode
The legendary tank shooter. Fight in 7vs7 team battles alone or with friends, research and upgrade armored vehicles, experiment with different tactics and win. Choose a tank and join the battle!
That’s the leaderboard.
thanks im shock just looking at it, i expected pramo or rgn to be number 1 or at least in the top 3
Lol, gl with the grind my dude 👌🏻
thanks i will indeed
Has anyone gotten there camo changed from the wrong one being given out yet?
Feel free to ping me
@ornate spoke the EU server has but not NA yet. They are fixing the issue by server, not sure when it will be fixed. Pretty soon though
3 of the 4 camos secure
@crimson goblet Nice tryhard
i just want the camos thats all, thats no tryhard
Owo
How much rating for camos?
@steady pollen they’re free...
50 games on a tier @steady pollen
4k rating for the "old" 5k, and 5k for the new camo
Watch, one day they will make the old 4K camo a 5k camo
Yes
And then sell it for gold the next season.
How come rating battles do not affect winrate, but adds to you battles, making it harder to increase your winrate?, question to devs
It affects only to the amount of rating battles, winrate is calculated from the amount of normal battles
hello i have request : how is possible to have no a lot of players in a file attent then i play whit my fisrt account can found battle on 1;30minutes actually and on my two account i fond a massive number of players and battle easily ?
Ik this was completely ages ago but may I ask why ratings platoon was removed ?
I completely forgot why it was. I’m dumb lol
We need that back. I belive it was removed because you could get a platoon of super unis who would dominate the battle. Pretty stupid reason to remove the platoon option if you ask me
Lol I really need platoon ratings back..that way u know u have at least 1 reliable player on your team lol
I think it would take sooooo long, some rating battles are as long as they are, matchmaking is stupid and matches you with another platoon, and god knows how long that will take.
Try beat this
Anyway.. can I like ping Wg to find out why they removed ratings platoon ?
they just did it as a balancing mechanic
Only thing it does is prevents you from having 2 good players in your team but instead you have only yourself
Worse mode than randoms, at least there you can play with another person who actually uses his/hers brain
Two 60%ers in a platoon defeat the purpose of rating battles. Two 40%ers in a platoon ruins ratings for other players.
Man I’m having bad luck. Thought IS4 would be good in ratings but apparently from my experience it’s team dependent, idk why
@normal garnet but uc my is4 isn’t 100% so I can’t play it in ratings. It’s like 98%
Oof
F
@ornate spoke I think it’s because due to low playercounts in ratings, rigging with platoons was very easy in ratings
Because rating is about your personnal performance not your performance in platoon ?
100% agree. Ratings is a thing that YOU personally should achieve, not something you should receive help with by players better than you
How paradoxical when it depends entirely on the common 3 neurons of 6 other folks...
?
Lol, imagine adding 1v1
Easy
Good game dude, I’m at 5049 see you in the top 5 @abstract grail
im at ~5.2 with around the same battle count so gg
@ornate spoke I thought no toning is allowed in rating
@maiden rain rly?
Do rations like coke for US tanks help if your at 100 percent ??
@upper gazelle it does. It stacks a further 3% crew performance (buffs general reload, tank handling, aim time, etc)
Winning 3 Ratings battles should not be a mission. Ratings battles are not available 24 hrs/day!
Thanks JonnO
@abstract grail well I would need to try a bit more I fell out a bit.
@crimson goblet tryhardddd
wait i'm doing the same but i can't progress above 5070... how could u even play 50 games in t7??? XD
i played t7 first, then i did t8, after that i did t9, and now its just t10 left
I’d do tier 10 and go down cause I feel like lower tiers would be harder, so I’d get my ratings as high as possible for safety
Cuz I’m bad
Has ratings rewards for last season been fixed? I still haven’t been given the correct camo for my tanks
@flat frost what server u in? it was corrected for me and others in EU
@paper jacinth I’m EU as well...
Oh ni idea whats going on then @flat frost
@paper jacinth I’ll send a ticket, thanks for your help
how often do you need to calibrate in rateings?
i just played 10 calibration games and 1 reg game to get to platnub league.. will i have to re calibrate this month?
Because of wintertime, the half of Europe now missis one hour, why not close an hour later?
Is there anything in sight that we might get an Hour longer in Ratings for Winter Seasons? Sucks to be honest to stop playing 23 CEST in Winter Times
@zenith trellis looool i was thinking exactly the same!
😂👍
Im normally used to play til 0:00 CEST, so it was quite perfect before! And even in Summer Time i was oftenly thinking, ohh noo why is it down allready, in my mind they could start later in the Morning with Ratings and let them End like 2 Hours later! Im never having long waiting times at all, no matter which Tank im using, so im wondering where the problem is
Feeling the same way, man
will you fix matchmaking soon WG?
@spring thunder what has Matchmaking to do with Rating Battles? And in my mind Matchmaking is quite balanced at all
@elfin parcel hahaha
@spring thunder ur stats are even going up, so whats the cry for?
Idk where youre problem is, youre even gaining points while loosing, Rating Battle is mostly about youre own performance... dont really get youre point to be honest
it is an example yo just askthis small question : should WG upgrade their match making
i keep loosing and loosing so no, i aint ''gaining''
@elfin parcel BTW, in the second image, its NOT normal that I do 4k and the rest of the team almost nothing
Te est pas chanceux dude
That t34 actually did some damage. The jagdtiger is the one you should whine about
Rating camo issue is still not resolved for NA
This is getting really annoying...
Indeed. Too early to close when there are still 15k online.
what camo issue? @normal garnet
@crimson goblet for the twister season in ratings, WG made a news post in game saying that there will be only one type of camo rewarded for this season, which was the previous 5K camo. It would be awarded for finishing in platinum or in diamond. However, the people who finished in platinum got the brown, previous 4K camo. The issue was fixed on the EU server but not yet on NA
i thought they said that that the new camo and old 5k(->4k now) will happend first time at the end of this season
why should they announce a new camo shortly before rating season finishes, makes no sense right? so the 4k and 5k from last season should be as before and the new will start from the end of this season onwards
atleast that would make the most sense to me, because otherwise it would be just kinda dumb ngl
else, if u can find the post stating that then i will change my mind
@crimson goblet
I also have the same issue as Steel_Hunter_973. Made a ticket about it and got this response.
I guess we just gotta wait
The response from the beginning was you need to wait
Like Jesus how impatient are you people when it comes to free stuff
Dude what's your problem? It's been a week since they've said that they were "dealing with it"
That, imo, is a long time for them to be fixing a problem like this. So I made a ticket to see if there's was some sort of update on the issue, which I guess not
Not to mention, all I said was "I guess we just gotta wait." I didn't say "omg it's taking so long!" or something like that
@bleak cliff
Yeah, I'm just talking in general not at you
And if a week is too much, then wow. Try wait about a month back when there wasn't the system we have now for rewards. When it took ages just to get a camo.
Well as I've said, a week's too much in my opinion. I'd expect wg to be able to fix a problem like this within a few days considering the resources it has. Your opinion may differ. 🤷 ♂️
Well The first or second season reward for rating came after like 2 months or so, the only time I played rating to acquire camo on my WT-PZ-4. (And even then it was rolled out sever wise and naturally SEA server gets the least priority, I even forgot about the rewards lol).
I think WG should correct their way to count the Raiting points when u lose a battle... sometimes you’re team is so bad that you can make as much dmg as the rest of the team and still lose points ... how ???
they made it better, so if you carry really hard you only lose 1-8 or so.
if you carry you get points even in a loss but you shouldnt get points
why so
You should if that’s the case, people who perform well should be rewarded .
For me currently ratings seems just a place where if you play a lot you get rewarded instead of a place where you meet skilled players and get better at the game
I like the experience bonus in ratings, but I feel like a credit boost would be nice... Maybe 2 different formulae, something like this:
On a win:
(1 + credit coefficient) * (0.15*current rating) * (40 + rating gained)
On a loss:
(1 + Credit Coefficient)* (0.15*current rating) + (250 * (15 + rating lost))
For a 2500 rating player in a lowe:
A gain of 52 rating, you make:
98,670
On a loss of 20 rating, you lose 178 credits
For a 3500 rating player with the same numbers, you get:
138,138 on a win, or 252 on a loss
For a 500 players with the same numbers above, you get:
197,340 on a win, or a gain of 1795 on a loss.
The numbers will be weighted almost fully on your rating gain/loss and total rating at match start, and you will not lose any credits for ammunition costs or repairs.
These are edited numbers, that sound more comfortable --> Thoughts?
Numbers scaled, obviously, but base it off your rating earned or lost
you already get a credit boost its up to 66% in diamond
ah, so credits do go up for higher rating... I see
I will reworks the formula, to incorporate overall rating I think...
VK 72 is actually outstanding in ratings
Is helping me come back from my 2.9k calibration ;-;
You will get beaten in it when you go higher ;)
I c
Idk if the higher you get in rating the longer you wait in mm
I’m waiting right now like about 10 minutes to get in a match, I’m 4,900
@covert temple yes. The higher your ratings the longer you will have to wait. If there are multiple people with ratings in the same area as yours, then probably not, but if you are in the high 4Ks and in 5ks you will have to wait longer
😭😭😭😭
When u hit 5K...
I just wanna hit 5k and stop playing ratings, I already have 50 battles on 252u and is4, I just want the camo
^
Exactly why what is needed is not a better reward in the end of the season but something rewarding that goes throughout it.
And also why the higher you get, the later in the season, the longer the queue.
Edit : concerning the reaction, sorry but there is need to follow discussions that have been running for a while on better incentives to play ratings.
I mean getting 5k on The early season IS way harder than waiting for The last week to get 5k
because there arent many so high alright thats why
No it's because all the lesser players have given up and it's ever so slightly better teams
But yeah both
why can i play my tanks with top modules ONLY?! i have to mount the tank parts, but some modules are slightly more useful or even more enjoyable to play, like suspensions on amx 50 100, dont need better terrain capacity but faster aiming time for sure 😉 maybe wg can change this "mount top modules" to "research all modules" to qualify tanks for ranked 😇 😜
Leaderboard does not seem to be updating.
It’s been up to 2-3 days
I already submitted a ticket and they said their developers are working on it
Lol, that and the wait time, also having milestone rewards sounds like a good idea
Avatars and camouflage are the MS rewards... it needs incentive to win battles at high tiers
"Earn more XP and credits depending on league" isn't really enough
Another one 47 battles, 24% wr 0 dmg using pantherM/10
Those players that make their goal to get to bronze, lol
The -VEX- clan in NA is trolling to get bronze in ratings... This shouldnt be allowed, as I cant play ratings at T9 and 10 now without throwers
how does one deal with this group of people?
easy, don't play ratings
not even that low smh
It takes to much effort
I literally blew myself up on a wall or drowned for all 10
From experience I can say it was harder to get bronze than platinum
its his play style my guy
@tawdry ingot talking poop about my play style?
Sigh.... ah well now I can work on my rating in peace... let’s hope we don’t do this again...
cdc is good not gonna lie in rating battles
CDC is a tad underrated actually
same it has good dpm good speed good reload time
I love the CDC
Pro of CDC: Good Dpm Good HE Good reload time Good manuvability Cons: No armor which means can be HE and weak ammo rack
I love the CDC as well its very nice to shoot HE at it
is M4/FL10 too strong to get a matchup? if so can I get the platinum camo for free if I stay in here for 30 mins? XD
@magic lodge What's your rating?
If it's higher then most, you probably won't find games at tier 7 (Since it needs a player of almost equal to your rank to match)
Ive seen me as the diamond league at tier 7 on the SP I C (under rated AF) and the enemy diamond league is on the wz120, so the other player of your level just has to be in your rank range, not tier. But I still get those 10 minute queues.
@bright bear I’m in platinum and I’m going to try and stay in the queue til the rating battles open tomorrow to see if I can get a battle lol
Why are waiting times so outrageous, so lame smh
Gotta say @dire quiver was very entertaining reading your suicide banter in Black Goldville... Very impressive, blowing yourself up with your E-100 HE shells against a wall...
Although still not cool ruining 10 rating games...
You see, I ruin the day of 6 people at most, but make the day of 7 others
Big brain
I was also sent from a spaceship to destroy that building, however, the building destroyed me
except for that game that your buddy in the death star still managed to carry you lmao... Then you ruined the day for all 13 🙂
No, I didn’t ruin it for my team because they won, and I don’t think the enemy would see me as the soul purpose for their loss
these rankeds are trash thanks for attention
im losing 4 matches in a row with the same mentally disabled guys AND IM LOSING points bcs they are trash no matter i have done top dmg in every single game
fix this useless "system" of points
I’m just sick of getting the same exact losing teams for 6 games in a row. Change the mm system so it doesn’t give you the same exact people every time
same
Made it to Platinum finally
ok, if you're losing points but you're "top player", then thats a nice lie
the system is designed to inflate points, you shouldn't be losing points if you keep on playing
Nice thing is if you do well you wont lose points
in some cases you will even gain points
well i once did 5.4k dmg or so in my grille with 3 kills, and i still lost like 10pts because of the game being a loss (my rating is 5.2k) please explain this then
stats?
what stats?
hes a 70%er ^ and i dont know your Grille playstyle but if you camped maybe that might be a reason but i dont think you did
At higher rating levels the amount you receive is more so dependant on win or loss
Last time I remember rating points were also rewarded for the xp you got
Damage does contribute to points, but spotting and team assistance is more important. It's basically the same principles as getting xp. And to gain on a loss you need to be top of your team by a lot of damage, about 2-3k ahead of the second guy
i was playing aggressive on fort dispair, so i wasnt camping @fallen mortar
but anyway, u shouldnt lose points doing 5k dmg, its just rediculous
at this rating loosing 10 points is wierd i must admit since ive seen people doing 0 and loosing the same amount so im actually confused
spotting, dmg, cap, all those stats
@gloomy pollen in English please
What is the "Calibrating-record"? It is theoretically possible to get 5 000 after the 10 Calibrating-battles?
I had 4700 once
I calibrated at 4200 this season
I calibrated at 3770 and I won 8 out of 10
Man, Ratings seem to end at 8pm US Pacific Time. Is it really dead by then or can the time slot be extended? If not, how about removing Ratings missions? 11am to 8pm is a terrible time slot. Finish work, errands, make dinner, clean up, and Ratings is over already.
yea because of the time shift, they havent yet thought of it when it happend
i feel like the rewards need a buff
Make tiger’s 2nd gun available for ratings, I prefer it over top gun
@cursive geyser this is so all players have the same thing and no one has an advantage or disadvantage
Would putting skill based mm into ratings do anything?
Like balance teams out by total average wr,hopefully to prevent blowouts
It's by the points, but some servers don't have enough players playing Rating so...
When does this rating season end?
@cursive hill The 30th
If you revived a rating league avatar, when the timer runs out I’m pretty sure you get your rewards for the next season
Lol rip, I already made 5k, so I'm done
if i get 5k i will be pro?
@hybrid shoal Yes, it is possible to calibrate to 5k rating directly, I've seen upto 5200
Yes 5k=pro
Anyone can get to 5k with a lot of time spent and good team mates
^^^ that. I think that the entire rating system needs to be reworked. Like in PC. The top players are rewarded for their contribution to the team while the bottom players, that did 0 dmg or were quite useless get nothing even though they win.
That is how it works...?
The more experience you get the more rating you gain?
The guy who is afk and deals no damage only gains 5 rating, the guy who carried and did 4500 damage got 50?
And on a loss the loss scales up the less you've done, to the point that I lost a 5500 game and gained 25 rating?
when was that battle played? Also in my opinion the afk dude shouldn't gain any points in a win. Therefore for a regularly afk player, his rating would stay either the same or down. Also another thing I am talking about the PC system is the following- for example you do 3K dmg in tier 10 and the rest of your team does less than 2K. Then in a Blitz rating battle you will most likely lose points (in diamond league about 10). In PC you would gain a chevron because you are the top of your team. ( I am giving a simple example with damage even though PC takes assist damage, enemies spotted etc. in calculating which person from the team has been the most beneficial.)
1-5 is negligible at best
also note. Gaining 25 points in a Diamond league on a DEFEAT is almost impossible so I don't believe that claim or argument that you made based on that
oooooooh.. I am pro. did not know that 🙂
Why can't I play my Lycan tank in ratings battles? I have waited in que as long as 4-7 minutes and still not got into battle but, as soon as I switch tanks, I get into battle within 15-60 seconds. This happens over and over. Tried to play Lycan at least 12 times and nothing.
because no one queues tier 7s in ratings. lol.
May I suggest queuing tier 8s or 10s? Much faster generally
@tawdry ingot Ha ha yourself! I have seen other players playing Lycans in ratings a bunch of times. I can get my T28 HTC in a battle (tier 7) in 30 seconds.
Well then I dunno, guess you are just unlucky
Timing, your stats/current rating, and tank matchups tend to be whats calculated. The Lycan has pretty good stats right now so it will try to match you against a drac or smasher, etc. (I think that's how it works?) at similar rating as you
@tawdry ingot Well thanks for the input!
I think ratings might be good for grinding credits
how does this point system even work. i got more damage, more kills, more XP than the guy below me and i still got less than em. unless its one of those the higher your rating, the less you get
Being in high 4k it slowed down a lot rip, I just went up 10-20 points each game
ah, rip
It is based on XP not damages only.
You get less but you also lose less
Its also based on the ratings of the ppl you do the damage to. I remember reading that somewhere
Another thing would be the tanks you went after, higher tier tanks prolly have more rating point gain then lower tiers
Those on EU, has your rating reset too early?
I would tell you if I could connect to it 😂 😂