#rating-battles

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warm nexus
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Same the old one was better one

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Due to new system most players 've stopped playing ratings

pine falcon
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@warm nexus most of these people who have stopped playing rating are people who shouldn't be there at all

pearl shale
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How's the que times?

pine falcon
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@pearl shale on EU queues are about 5-15secs so not that bad. But after all I an still on 4400 so I assume that the people at 5000+ need to wait a bit longer maybe 20 secs

pearl shale
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Sounds better than when it was tier 7-10

pine falcon
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Yeah definitely. Also I see more players from top clans playing than before when it was 7-10

steady valley
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Vehicle balance seems very good and improved by running 1 tier, especially tier 10

ornate spoke
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I think that the new rating battle are completely dumb... I don't want tier specific battles... the old way was best...

ornate spoke
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Ratings really should only be tier. Making diamond at tier VIII isn't the same as doing it at tier X.

kind owl
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Yeah rating battles this month is so dumb. Tier 10 cmon. I have only tier 9 smh.

pine falcon
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Spartacus is right. Last season I just spent 200 battles and I reached diamond easily. Now I am actually struggling sometimes to get points.

ornate spoke
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Or T8 everybody have a T8

fallen mortar
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People somehow never get that rating is something elite not useless trash everyone can do so T10 is the highest Tier with decent balance and stop complaining if you haven't reached T10 yet then u shouldn't be playing ranked as easy as that. T8 is a great idea its perfectly balanced not full of op premiums that outperform any kind of tech tree tank @ornate spoke hope you get my sarcasm

agile sphinx
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I think pretty much any good player that can remember themselves before they got to tier 10 will agree that unless you have researched a tier 10 you should not be in ratings. I can remember my first experiences in ratings and after that i realised that i needed a lot more experience. I stopped playing, tried learning as much as i could and tried it again later and it was much better.

fallen mortar
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i started ranked at T8 and were around 3,4k for my first calibration not too bad i think but it wasnt fun for me so i stopped for quite some time and only started it again when i wanted the camos

agile sphinx
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I played when i first bought the lowe (i was at tier 7) and stopped quickly

fallen mortar
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only thing i hate about ratings rn is that its bloody 60days like srsly what should i do in that 60 days if i can only get one camo, climbing the ladder is nothing im up too since you have to have a lot of time for that

silent solar
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Worst thing about ratings is all leagues play in the same battles. Totally stupid that bronze rated players fight in same battles as Diamond rated players. I reckon most of the whining about "bad" players would stop if battles were single league. Let the elite fight the elite and us plebs fight plebs...

dire quiver
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Low is the goal

urban cobalt
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@silent solar that happens bc no one plays ratings. They should give better rewards, not just a camo an a avatar

fallen mortar
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Let asia never find anyone they can fight with 😂

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I never fraught anyone with bronze league when i was diamond

raw summit
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I don't have credit to play rating
nd I don't like playing t8 anymore

agile sphinx
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Then buy/use a different tier prem or stop complaining

wicked turtle
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I want want play ratting and I am grinding on tier 9 to get 10. It is not easy it is really disappointed I always end up with 40%ers and lost.

long cove
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i cant update it D:

warm nexus
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now that WG has already tested tier 10 & 8 ratings they should test 7 & 9 next month as well

pallid arch
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7? Of all of the tiers why is 7 one that you want there?

pearl shale
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They said 7&9 because they've already done 8&10. Rating used to be 7-10

ornate spoke
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Looooooool

next gull
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Are rating still relevant with the new MM rule (EU and CIS) ?

neat halo
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So i hadn't played rating battles in over a year, I was mid/high plat when I last played. I started playing them again yesterday and got placed mid/high silver lol. It seems like it takes ages to grind up now (especially when you get placed in games with such vast point differences from where you currently are, with seemingly little point bonuses if you win against higher rated players). Do people play rating battles anymore or has this mode virtually lost all its popularity?

restive dawn
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The current system makes you earn your points, it' not the win that matters most anymore

dire quiver
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Low is the goal
For this ratings season

scarlet terrace
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..

tawdry notch
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rating games and ranking r good evidence to prove u r not a noob😀

agile sphinx
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Not really, anyone can spam games to get to 5k

pine falcon
restive dawn
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Can be found from pinned messages

pallid arch
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Need somebody there to balance out your rating...

next gull
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Wow -190 ? This is an achievement in itself.

agile sphinx
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Last battle of calibration @next gull

ornate spoke
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Don't shame other players here

pallid arch
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Is being normal causing shame?

zenith trellis
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New rating system sucks, give the old one back.

ornate spoke
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Tbh rating is innacurate and kinda sucks, as I’ve seen horrible players almost to platinum and good players almost to gold, the only reason any good players still play it is for the reward at the end

dire quiver
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My goal earlier was to get the lowest rating I could without actually being afk or suiciding, so I played the Maus as a sniper and the grille as a front line “heavy”

lyric parrot
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sounds like griefing but not griefing

dire quiver
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Still got calibrated to like 3500 or so lmao

lyric parrot
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well maybe since u actually still make good decisions, like picking trades etc

dire quiver
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Perhaps

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I mean, I reverse side scraped a Maus and blocked like 4K, the trades were OP until I was the only one alive lol

mental vigil
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@dire quiver Why did you reverse sidescrape a maus?

mental vigil
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It does not make any sense to reverse sidescrape a maus 🧐

pallid arch
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He wanted a vk 168

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But was too cheap to actually buy one

next gull
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Basically rating work as Leagues. The more you play, the higher you get, irrespective of your skill. The only impact skill have is the pace.

lean hill
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I have 4300 .... why have I a guy with 2300 in my team !?

restive dawn
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Because why not

zenith trellis
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Because the game is not able to put players of the same level together. It is a problem they never have been able to solve.

lean hill
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Now I have 4700 and I had a battle with 3400 average .....

lean hill
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What will be the next tier after tier 10 ranked ??

pallid arch
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Ideally 10

lean hill
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They should make a vote again ( I might vote t10 )

lean hill
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I can’t have a good team just one time ... thx mm

undone pulsar
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@lean hill pinned messages

lean hill
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Why do I have a team with 45% players , and in front there are 60% ( not complaining just asking )

undone pulsar
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Because mm is based on rating which isn’t necessarily based on skill

lean hill
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????? It’s not at all logic XD

restive dawn
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It is actually

lean hill
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But I can have a team with all 4K rank with 45% VS a team with 4 k rank with 60%

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So logic ur right @restive dawn

pearl shale
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You get a team full of 40%ers vs 60%ers because ratings used rng and not wr

undone pulsar
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Because a higher win rate player can’t have a low rating

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And a low win rate player can’t have a higher win rate

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Not to mention that non calibrated players don’t change a team’s average rating

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@lean hill

lean hill
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I didn’t understand anything sorry

hot zephyr
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ratings is bad anyway because it allows you to gain if you carry, it just encourages game spamming

ornate spoke
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What is the WR of super good player on this version of wot btw ?

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Still around 60-65% ?

pearl shale
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65-70%

agile sphinx
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100-105%

lean hill
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Very good player aren’t looking for % but for wn8 @ornate spoke

ornate spoke
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I know, but it's pretty linked 😉

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Just wanted to know if compared to PC, you can carry more or not, at high tier

agile sphinx
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Its probably easier to carry because you have fewer people to fight against

ornate spoke
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That's what i'd say, but the WR from unicum isn't that far from PC if it's 65-70%

agile sphinx
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Its a long way to get from 60 to 70%

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Getting to 60% is pretty much all about learning and paying attention, to get over that you need more skill (ignoring sealclubbers etc)

ornate spoke
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Yeah yeah, i'm only T3 on blitz, just wanted to try a bit, top player on PC are at 60-65% most of the time so the difference isn't that far

fallen mortar
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Top players here have up to 80%+ 😅

restive dawn
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rerolls you mean?

agile sphinx
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Pros who are so good that with 500 battles they have 2 tier 10s with 85% WR on their only account*

low kayak
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They would have to have tier own game economy as well to get two tier X in just 500 games 😃

fallen mortar
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@restive dawn i only know 2 that have around 80% but im not talking about rerolls

agile sphinx
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@low kayak T22 and Mk6 are in store now 🤷

fallen mortar
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@restive dawn i bet you have heard of HerrMroz

agile sphinx
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There were a couple of 90% people on 5k battles with tier 8s at some point on EU

low kayak
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@agile sphinx well, I thought about grinding to tier X and keeping that win rate in 500 games, that a good player.

undone pulsar
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@lean hill I guess you don’t

lean hill
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Did I talked to you ? @undone pulsar

undone pulsar
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You asked an open ended question

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I answered

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It’s not my fault you don’t understand how ratings are matched up ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lean hill
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What question ?

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What was my question @undone pulsar ? I don’t see it

undone pulsar
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“Why do I have a team with 45% players , and in front there are 60% ( not complaining just asking )”

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“Why” is a question word

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You also literally said you’re asking

lean hill
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This answer is supposed to help me ?

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Am bad at English what does I guess U don’t means

undone pulsar
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I already explained it

wheat tartan
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Is ratings going to change in terms of tiers?

restive dawn
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Next season probs gonna be tier 7 or 9

fallen mortar
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T7 oh god pls dont i can smell smashers dracs hellsing and stuff

kind owl
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Excatly
.... it be better if it was tier 9 ...

lean hill
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Stupid guys.... only real tank will be allowed ... @kind owl

icy mica
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Foch 155 are runing Rampag on rating

pine falcon
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I got to 5k the day after the update. Just get quickly to diamond and stop playing. Literally the only way to get away from Foch and Chieftans.

near finch
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Chieftain is weak compared 2 e5... e5 is weak compared 2 most heavys.

grizzled tinsel
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No

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@near finch what the heck this belongs to Rating battles???!!!! 1.wrong channel 2.both tanks aren’t weak!

lean hill
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Finally am at 5k..... the spam of Foch , chieftan is horrible

undone pulsar
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Imagine banning collector and premium tanks

ornate spoke
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This post was made by the warthunder gang

near finch
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Kirovets , the comment was in reference 2 the comment above mine (Ik this is not balance chat) and I wasn’t saying that the tanks were in general “weak” but rather that they had some weak characteristics,meaning that they are not op . The comment above was making out that the chieftain was as good a buffed Foch . so having loads ig atm are not going 2 affect players to much.

lean hill
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Personally , I was playing is4 or obj140 ...

fallen mortar
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@undone pulsar imagine a good game ✅

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And rn its more like a Foch and T-22 spam havent seen to many chieftains tbh

undone pulsar
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Yup

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100%

fallen mortar
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its somehow harder to play with good people then with nabs because those "pros" keep blocking because they want more dmg etc and thats really annoying and they keep flaming each other as soon as theyy fail

ornate spoke
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@@lean hill chieftain is good

steady valley
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I like the change to tier 10. I think the mm and battles are most challenging yet. Of course there are alot of players who cannot even do 1,000 dmg per game, but this is the playerbase we must deal with. I feel this version of ratings battles are the most fun and challenging of all so far. Progress can be slow so its a good challenge to overcome

lean hill
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@ornate spoke yea ... too good , why did u continue to play in ranked after 5k ? U said it was ur last battle

ornate spoke
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I had a mission

fallen mortar
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id keep playing after 5k 66% more credits is quite nice

ornate spoke
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3k gold for #1 ? Is a joke

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not worth playing in rating battles, prizes are extremely insignificant, 3k gold? for a month in which you give your best to reach the 1st place? Wg you have to make people play this way, give some more interesting prizes, such as a tank of 7, 8.9, 10 or more gold.

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@ornate spoke

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I play this game from 2014 but do not try to attract players at all

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Add non-stop premium tanks for sale, instead of doing something to attract players

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@odd maple

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@soft ivy

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@fossil scaffold

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Pls talk

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In order to reach the 1st place in the evaluation you have to be an extremely good player, to invest extraordinarily long + a lot of stress! To reach up to 6000-7000 evaluation you have to play extremely many battles! all things for 3k gold? In this case, it is not very difficult to meet, they play very well for the world, they are not rewarded for a measure, it is worth noting at all while they can change. instead of adding something to the care it deserves to be playing, being foe or the extremely big competitor, captivating the players .. you give 3k gold what is that?

steady valley
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Some players do it for the enjoyment of the challenge, and not for the rewards

pine falcon
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I really don't think tagging WG was necessary. You know they won't reply. Also yes, what the post said above me. I got to 5K rating not because of wanting prizes but because rating is my second favorite gamemode after mad games and I like being competitive. Tbh I also did it for the sexy diamond league avatar

steady valley
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Well said

ornate spoke
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Broken english and just read his speech

hot zephyr
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You dont need to be extremely good to get number 1
Just be good and spam. Although I agree rewards are bas

fallen mortar
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Only thing I'd change would be most played tank of a tier gets the 5k camo if reached and the 2nd most played the 4k camo.

grizzled tinsel
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@fallen mortar I played last session 10 battles got 4,4 k rating and didn’t get the camo -_-

low sandal
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You play 50 battles? @grizzled tinsel

grizzled tinsel
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So only get this for 50 battles? -_- yeet. Don’t want to play that much

fallen mortar
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you should be able to read so yeah 50 battles per Tier for a camo

zenith trellis
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Forgot to turn rating battles on and got immediately punished by the usual bad matchmaking 😭

quartz aspen
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Lol

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I used the yolo wagon and blocked over 4k

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From E 100 and jg.pz. E 100

ornate spoke
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Very long queues. I managed to play only 2 battles today. Waited 45 minutes total for this 2 battles. The game just dont match me despite theres enough players in rating

river portal
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I waited over 100 minutes 2 seasons ago😦

ornate spoke
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XD
And you lost?

worthy spade
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The max I’ve waited is like 6 minutes lol

fleet sinew
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Is the MM brocken or why I get always rating teams with 2600 Points and I am the only one with 3600???? This gameplay there is horrible.

quartz aspen
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I never wait that long. I just quit and go to random

frail elm
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when will calibration end comrades ?

gentle brook
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After you play 10 battle in ratting mode

warm topaz
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I have only SU122-44 on tier VII. I want back rating battles on tier VII.

somber aurora
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6.3 update is Great ! New Italian reverse Auto loader is gonna be grand... Best of Luck to all players. Here are a few suggestion : please make it cheaper to change name. Please reduce the premium account price for one day premium account. Please consider 10 vs 10 game mode if possible.

agile sphinx
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@warm topaz if you only have a tier 7 then there is no way you should be playing ratings

real spindle
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@warm topaz why u playing rating in a tier 7 tank that’s no good for you

fallen coral
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Hey

dull cedar
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Whats going on? When im playing other tanks its around 0:40 to 1:00

worthy spade
rough pasture
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gg

violet lintel
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gg

sonic onyx
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gj

pine falcon
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@worthy spade I have exactly 5k rating too

worthy spade
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Lol

agile sphinx
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Average ratings team is all 45%ers in fochs and stbs camping at the back, what a great change from normal games 🤦

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WG: But why are people not playing ratings? I dont understand...

fallen mortar
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my last few battles were quite good except for one person screwing the game by capping bases

agile sphinx
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My games have literally had 2 or 3 people per team over 50%

pine falcon
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To be honest this is how rating should be, only tier 10. The problem being with so few players being at Diamond league (screenshot bellow, EU server) is because of a large influx of players, who don't really understand how some game mechanics work or don't have some necessary skills to be called a "good" player. These players quite often influence battles in a negative way by not helping the team. And as Blitz is supposed to be a team game the end of the whole story normally ends in a defeat. And the people I am talking about, are the "idiots" - who just do nothing throughout the entire game and then wonder why their teamloodsing. And therefore I shall say again, "Rating" battle mode was introduced for the competitive and that is why us, the players are not so happy that we meet bad players in a supposed battle type that should be for the more experienced. Therefore I make a hot request, just like many other players, for there to be put restrictions on players that are not particularly known for being good.

grizzled tinsel
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@pine falcon I understand your point. But imagine you would only play against players on your skilllevel. I mean if I would play against me i would just camp and no one would do a mistake. I couldn’t play hulldown anymore effectively because enemy would allday long pen my turret because of good aim

agile sphinx
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The best games that you get in blitz is when the teams are evenly matched. I dont care if i win or lose (much), what i mainly care about is getting good games. It is simply not fun when you are forced to carry bad players all the time. Ratings is supposed to be a gamemode where you get good games. Currently the people playing ratings are nowhere near competent enough to be playing. They constantly camp in every tank, and you are often forced to be the only one who spots. This is the complete opposite of fun. Obviously ratings will never be perfect, but changes about who can access ratings will benefit this gamemode a lot.

ornate spoke
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I think that for rating, there should be a bunch of “sub-leagues”. Like for example, 3000 would be “Gold 4”, 3250 would be “Gold 3”, 3500 would be “Gold 2”, 3750-4000 would be “Gold 1”. Players can only be matched with players in their sub league (unless the queue exceeds x amount of time).

this would make matches a lot more balanced, but make matchmaking take a lot longer especially at higher leagues.

I think there needs to be more incentive to play ratings battles- there are very few end of season rewards. Maybe throw in some crates, some gold, some credits, some boosters, maybe even a tank if you get to diamond. And I think a lot more players will play ratings

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Even if it’s like a tier 7 tank, a lot more “average” players will feel incentivized to at least try to play and grind for the tank.

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And I think if there are substantial rewards such as gold or credits, EVERYBODY will want to play. Camoes and avatars are not valuable to most players. But credits and gold and tanks are.

molten whale
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How wud u define a player not good enuf for rating is the question doe, i was barely a 50%er player but i started watching videos on YouTube and i learned a lot
Soon i was a 51%er with unicum wn8 on blitzstars (30 days)

So unless wg introduce 30 day stats i doubt we will get a ban on bad player in rating

agile sphinx
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MM like that would take ages. It would be better to have MM so you only play with people Âą500 points (for example). This would be similar but would allow more flexibility. I completely agree with more rewards. A different tier 7/6 prem each month would be plenty of incentive for people to get to diamond. Camos and avatars are very underwhelming and having the same one each month doesnt make it any better. The gold is basically unreachable for pretty much every player that doesnt spend all day on blitz.

@molten whale one of the easiest thingsnto do is measure it from tier 10 WR in the last 30 days/50 battles outside of ratings (because your WR will probably go down in ratings)

molten whale
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Exactly but wg hasnt introduced 30 day stats in game and i doubt they'll refer to blitzstars

agile sphinx
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WG has access to every stat they want. They have the past 50 battle stats (or maybe 100 i cant remember) shown on their own page. If blitzstars can get the stats then that means WG can easily get them by themselves.

molten whale
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I m not saying they dont have access but if a player doesnt kno why he cant play ratings, it'd be kind of confusing for them, so wg wud have to first introduce 30 day stats in game and then if a player is restricted coz his 30 day stats arent good enuf then he can look st them in game

ornate spoke
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@agile sphinx Ofc. It’s not a hard number, and I think WG should make adjustments off their data.

agile sphinx
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Yeah WG definitely need to make some adjustments to ratings and the MM there, but it seems like no DEVS are CHATTING with us in the channel

molten whale
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I dont blame them if they dont check here, look at balance discussion, ppl ask for already good tanks to be buffed and ask for things that cant/shudnt be done

agile sphinx
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Ratings is still a large part of the game. The devs seem to be showing that they dont care about ratings because of the tiny slowmode and the fact that no dev has ever responded in here (afaik). If they honestly dont care then they should not have have it under the heading "chat with devs". Its a shame if WG do decide to ignore ratings but not too surprising seeing as ratings is morw about the veteran playerbase.

pine falcon
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@grizzled tinsel if you camp there are based to cap. As easy as that. Then the camper would have to move. That is called improvising.

grizzled tinsel
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@pine falcon not meaning camping like a newb in td. I mean you wouldn’t be able to be as aggressive as before when you play against players on your skilllevel. The consequence is that the battles are very static and dominated by caps and the strongest tanks.

agile sphinx
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Battles against good players are anything but static. You are constantly pushing and flanking to try and gain an advantage because you cant just yolo and kill them.

neat halo
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Ratings won't get better until there are enough players playing so that you can actuallly get league level games. As it stands right now games are filled up with players anywhere from high platinum to low silver with over 2000 point differences in rating (and the plats aren't always better than the silvers...). If you look at any other competive game with different ranks (League of Legends, Overwatch etc) you would never see that big of a rank difference in your games on a regular basis and you can't expect the quality of the games to rise when the games are frequently filled with such a wide rating difference. If there was enough players playing to fill a game with 14 players of the same rank you could expect to see a change in the quality of the games, but not when you have silvers in the same games as plats (this also makes it harder for silvers to climb up to gold if they are having to fight plats to do so). So in my mind ratings won't get better until WG entices more players to play ratings (if they care if they do). Most people in my clan have stopped playing ratings (and these are players with an average winrate of 58%).

fallen mortar
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you could just make a qualification like the calibration if you dont fullfill 3k ranking in those battles you wont be able to play

zenith trellis
steady raptor
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I like that ratings are tier x only. No one can boost at lower tiers.

ornate spoke
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Yes

loud minnow
dull lynx
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@loud minnow No. And I was about to talk about it too

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Is there any dev to explain something about it?

glad wasp
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wow good

next gull
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Rating battles' MM should have a smaller rating span (+/- 500 ?). This is the only way to have the self-called competitive players happy because they fail at understanding that competition is in having battles with players of same level and not only among super-unicae (as if there would be a game mode for 0.5% of the playerbase).

restive dawn
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The span is bigger due the boohoo talk about queue times

fallen mortar
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I liked my relaxing 10min queue times you could relax and get normal after a tilting and frustrating match 😂

agile sphinx
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@dull lynx A dev in a channel under "chat with devs"? You think WG can spare that great expense?

dull lynx
agile sphinx
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Exactly, who cares about the playerbase that has consistently supported the game?

worthy spade
next gull
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@restive dawn precisely. How would restricting the access solve that ?
Obviously, it would not.

agile sphinx
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Restrict access -> quality of games increases -> playerbase realises -> more people play ratings to get away from the average tier 10 player -> queue times go down -> possibly WG realises rating is valid game mode and gives better prizes etc @next gull

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It isnt an immediate effect but it will work as long as there are enough people who will wait for ratings games immediately after the first step

molten whale
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No i'll tell u how it goes

Restrict bad player
Unicums will maul avg players
Avg players back out
Queue time : infinite

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Half the players that cry about mm here want 7 good players on their team and 7 bad ones on the enemy

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And even then they'll complain "i dont get to do dmg"

next gull
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@agile sphinx I completly agree with the need of better rewards and publicity for this game mode.
Now tell me how reducing the rating span does not accomplish what we want ? It keeps the game competitive for everyone and does not exclude 99% of the player base.
Now if you want real competitive games the Twister cup approaches.

fallen mortar
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id go to twister but yeah there is something called touch only

agile sphinx
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@next gull reducing the rating span in games is similar except the queues are garunteed to be long no matter what, and you will also be constantly meeting the same people time after time which gets very tedious.
Both idea work but imo restricting access will work better and will be more future proof.

near rapids
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Let's go play?

wheat rune
molten whale
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Do u want a congratulations or something?

foggy trench
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Flex

loud minnow
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NA rating leaderboards are still down...

ornate spoke
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The worst Type of player - toxic guy

normal garnet
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There has to be some sort of winrate restriction for ratings

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6 losses in a row, all due to the insane number of inexperienced players on my team

restive dawn
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No name and shame, that has nothing to do with rating anyway
And check the pinned messages

wind moonBOT
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dynoSuccess I am Jesus#2831 has been warned.

quartz aspen
quartz aspen
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AMX 50 B

summer shard
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'isnt matter'

normal garnet
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Lol

strange crane
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If you play a prem t10 in there and mess up, everyone gets pissed lol

ornate spoke
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lmao

fallen mortar
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now thats obvious name and shame ^ <@&481447501690568709> since the one i pinged didnt bother

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just compare the two screens the 50B is the person hes shaming and naming

glacial nova
versed ledge
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@quartz aspen don’t name and shame pls. You can message a moderator in PM if someone is abusive to you in PM (but it must be because of a matter which emerged from this server)

undone pulsar
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Or. You don’t allow premium and collector tanks in ratings. Then this person can ruin them

ornate spoke
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@undone pulsar But many people will not like that, since many drive Chieftain MK6 to get their ratings.

undone pulsar
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Why won’t people like that?

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Ratings are supposed to be competitive

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With good and experienced players

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People that grinded lines

ornate spoke
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Yes they are, and why should you disallow tanks? That seems not very fair.

undone pulsar
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Not people that have 300 games and 4 tier 10s

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It’s an unfair advantage to buy tanks with a credit card lol

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Tech tree tanks are free and available to everyone

ornate spoke
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It’s not the point, if experienced players drive a Premium tank for ratings, and from that day to the other Premium tanks get disallowed, how must he feel?

undone pulsar
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The real question is what kind of ratings experience do you want?

ornate spoke
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I mean, everyone’s choicr what tank to drive, if he likes the Premium one, why can’t he drive it?

undone pulsar
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Because your version is just pubs with a longer queue time

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My version actually weeds out people who don’t deserve to be there

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It stops the 400 damage team mates from existing by a lot

agile sphinx
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Not allowing prems in ratings is an easy way to stop the people who buy their way to tier 10. This works, but ideally there should be other methods to prevent people who shouldnt be in ratings playing ratings. It is not an ideal solution, but there are no ideal solutions

undone pulsar
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There should be. But there aren’t

ornate spoke
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I also drive ratings with tech tree tanks, also sometimes with T8 Premium, if there is. And why should people not deserve to be there? That’s not the way it should be. As a new player, you can’t be an OG or an RA1D player. It’s a game for everyone, most people drive for fun and not for stats, like me.

undone pulsar
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Could make ratings a minimum of 1k battles

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Ok fine. Do you think that premiums are balanced?

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Wz 120 1ft

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You think that’s a fair tank?

ornate spoke
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Sure, why shouldn’t it be a fair tank?

undone pulsar
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🤦🏼‍♂️

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I’m just going to stop there

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It’s a waste of my time

ornate spoke
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Well, a tank can be as OP as it wants to be, the player in it gives results. And a WZ T8 Premium, can be outplayed pretty easily my friend.

undone pulsar
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Enjoy the one shot of damage team mates

ornate spoke
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That’s just pathetic.

undone pulsar
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What do you expect from this player?

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2-3 shots

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As previously stated. Tier 4 is their highest tank

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They have no business in ratings

ornate spoke
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Dude you can send me the worst players of the game, but you don’t get the point, that you behave like a toxic kid.

restive dawn
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i see a storm incoming

undone pulsar
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Toxic because i want ratings to be based on skill and not a credit card? Sheesh

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I love this community

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I bet you like the new consumables too

ornate spoke
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Lmao the consumables are not OP

undone pulsar
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Yup. I’m done here

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😂

restive dawn
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gg

ornate spoke
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Done with being toxic as a moderator on this server? Thanks very much good Sir.

undone pulsar
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In what way have I been toxic?

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For disagreeing with you?

ornate spoke
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U make everyone bad in the community just for not being an OG. That’s not the way it works.

undone pulsar
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And you know the way it works huh?

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I don’t care if players are og

ornate spoke
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Definitely not the way you are going.

undone pulsar
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I care if players have enough experience to be competitive

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Any potato can buy a t-22

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That doesn’t mean they belong in ratings

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And because it’s a t-22 it’ll bounce rounds by accident

long spindle
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I don't play much ratings, just for the camo, but whenever someone mentions to WG about skilled MM they always say just play ratings, so for that reason ratings should be skilled base imo,

restive dawn
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#TechTreeOnlyRatings&CW2080

undone pulsar
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I want something better for ratings. Sorry you don’t agree with that

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@long spindle skill based? In a competitive game mode? Blasphemy

long spindle
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Someone shouldnt be able to get 6k rating just for playing a lot of rating battles

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Is is say 48%

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It should be earned

undone pulsar
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Haven’t you seen the newest event?

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Battle spamming is earning apparently

long spindle
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Yes lol

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But ratings is supposed to be competitive,

ornate spoke
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Yes the event is very a big minus for the wr bc the MM doesn’t work as it should.

undone pulsar
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Well duh

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I’m on na

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We don’t get your fancy new mm

long spindle
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Happens every event. Not just this one. Kinda got used to playing during events lol

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We haven't even noticed the change in MM

undone pulsar
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Uh huh

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A likely story

long spindle
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It's like nothing has happened

ornate spoke
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I got myself to not play during the events, only if the reward is worth it. But this is a joke. The tank you get for playing idk 1000 battles is not worth it.

undone pulsar
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That’s because as soon as one player gets move for being “ineffective” another one gets online 😂

long spindle
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Lmao

undone pulsar
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And repeat

long spindle
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Yip

fallen mortar
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ratings without prems would be a dream

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Only T10 and only techtree tanks

molten whale
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Ahhh so good if it happens
Maybe even t9 sometimes, coz its fun

undone pulsar
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@fallen mortar I see you’re an intellectual

normal garnet
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Can u get the ratings camo on more than one tank per season? Or can u only get it on one tank per season. (Either camo, 4K or 5k)

restive dawn
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only one camo per season in the current rating system

quartz aspen
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If they removed premium tanks ability to play ratings, it would so much easier with my 263. I hate the Chieftain

lean hill
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Well it’s not the worst idea

rigid quail
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Hi
Any reason all of my tanks have become “unsuitable” for ratings battles. Previously all fine?

ornate spoke
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Ratings is only tier X right now @rigid quail

rigid quail
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Lovely thnx

next gull
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Ratings should be for 1% of the player base that are not good enough for twister season but self proclamed too good for public games.

ornate spoke
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@next gull actually a good idea lol

pine falcon
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@next gull ok interesting idea, but how would you separate and distinguish these players?

next gull
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They know it, isn't that enough ?

ornate spoke
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implementing wn8/7 into the game maybe?

next gull
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Did WG define these stats ?

ornate spoke
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no, they were invented by some internet platforms in order to put players in different categories (and it works more precisely than by doing it via winrate)

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there's a formula for both wn8 and wn7 ...just look it up on google

next gull
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That was a rethorical question ;)

normal garnet
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@restive dawn thanks. Do u get it when u reach 50 battles or when the season ends?

fallen mortar
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on the end of the season @normal garnet

normal garnet
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Kk

ornate spoke
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Well atleast i hit 3555 with only 183 but expected worse

sweet whale
ornate spoke
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Always complaining while the system is the same for everyone

next gull
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It is based on XP I reckon, not on dmg only.

ornate spoke
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Ofc it is. I bet his spotting wasn‘t all that great

hot zephyr
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Good you should always lose points on a loss
How much you do shouldn't matter

low sandal
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on the pc version I dont think u lose points of you are in the top 3 on exp

pine falcon
low sandal
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Ah so only first

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Tbh I like that system

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Winning team:
1-3: ++
4-6: +
7:
Loosing team:
1: +
2-3:
4-7: -

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But ofc they won't do it because it would deter the bots who make up most of the matchmaking from playing

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Also it will be a lot easier to go up

sullen orchid
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What if ratings battles had pen indicator textures turned off? Would make it an even more competitive category imo.

Might even make it a more desirable game mode.

pine falcon
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@sullen orchid no, then every noob in existence will go "It's free real estate" because they will think think that "rating" was mean to be "fun" as it resembles Realistic battle mode.

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The thing they need to do it so make restrictions based on stats of the player.

next gull
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Like some sort of rating 🤔

pine falcon
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Lol that would be fun. Having rating in order to get into rating battles.

sullen orchid
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WG's website states there is already a filter to match up other players based on their rating..which is in essence their "stat"istical value of their performance in rating battles.

fallen mortar
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No that system is literlly bot working

sullen orchid
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Maybe there isn't enough people playing in ratings to make that system work properly 🤔

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Thus the suggestion to make it more appealing to the player base.

pine falcon
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That is the problem, making it more appealing brings noobs. With a large influx of noobs the system won't be functioning properly either

grim trout
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I have a question, why do I get 6k of credits when I earn like 10k in a battle, I do know credits goes to tank maintineance, shells, etc but, It doesnt matter how much credits I earn in a battle, 10k, 12k, 15k even 18k, I always get the half of it

agile sphinx
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The 10k credits you earn is before every expense is taken off, but including any boosters or prem time. The figure beneath is generally a bit over half (apart from on good credit earners) because you need to fire more ammo and use consumables etc to get more damage and so to get more credits. This mean you tend to lose about the same proportion each battle.

grim trout
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And why does it say credits 6056 (exactly yes) and then I just got 506, I didnt even shoot or got killed

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I mean is it logic what you said, the more shells or resources you use to earn credits, the more credits are taken off ok, but how do you explain not being killed or just waste 2 or 3 shells and only earn 500 of credits from 6k

agile sphinx
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You have consumables, camo, provisions etc to take off as well

grim trout
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Well then it shouldnt say I got 6k of credits in the notification

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When I only got 500, anyway I said I dont even used any, dont think provisions cost 2k each

agile sphinx
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You earned a total of 6k credits. That is your gross earnings before you pay any out. Your net earnings is 500 because of deductions, its exactly how life works

grim trout
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Yeah but why does it say in the notification you earned 6k, 8k, 500k, the amount doesnt matter, it also doesnt matter what you do, kill 7 and waste 40 shells or being afk without touching the screen, you always get 10-50% of credits

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I know why credits are taken off and these stuff but it seem weird since this doesnt happen in the pc

agile sphinx
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You earned 6k credits in that battle. If you do the same performance again then you will earn the same. But if the second time you dont use consumables etc you will get more of them

grim trout
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Still being truly unbalanced, this never happened to me in pc, I used to earn 1.6m in 2 days I guess and about 20k of xp, thats ok, it would be really better tbh but in blitz I spent over 10h, maybe 11h to just earn 350k of credits and like 45k of xp

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Its really unbalanced I have unlocked some tanks and weapons okey but I cant buy any of them, I keep earning tons of xp and a little bit of credits

torpid walrus
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then use a premium tank

agile sphinx
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The idea of blitz is to make you buy a prem

grim trout
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Yeah because I can waste money in buying premium tanks, I do have a lot of money

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I have got 2 screenshots where I did 15k and won 12k, and the other one I did 6k and got -1.4k, how? I used a lot of more resources in the first one, really a lot

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Also tanks that you have 100% unlocked should earn more credits and free xp, like pc does, but it doesnt

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Its absurd that I have to waste half of a day to earn just 350k of credits, sell a tank and then buy a new one that I cant use because I dont have money, is it a game? Where is the fun?

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Im sorry but I just dont get it

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However forget about the credit refound or whatever, how much do I have to play for a tier 10 tank, a year? I only see players playing with emulators (in pc) and its really unfair btw, know many mobile games that have pc servers.

torpid walrus
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sounds like you're rushing up the lines too fast

agile sphinx
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PC is not blitz. Things work completely differently here. If you want to grind credits either use a bdr or buy a prem.
Amd yes as said above you should definitely not rush up lines and try and get a tier 10 as soon as possible. Take time to learn each tier and the different tanks and strategies

grim trout
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I do know how world of tanks works, you cant have a tier 10 in 5 weeks but you can have 4 tier 6 at the same time in 4 days 🤔 I do know players that got their tier 10 in 8 months, I dont want to get a tier 10, Im not even rushing tanks, but its absurd not matter what you say that you spent 12 hours straight just to get 350k of credits

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Being tier 5, 7 or 10

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Im not god, I cant do 2k damage and 5 kills each game to only learn 10k of credits

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I just see that I got tier 5-6 so easly and then I spent days and 0 progress you know? Feel really slow

agile sphinx
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Again WOT≠blitz, the games are pretty different. If you want to frind credits fast then you are going to have to buy a prem. That is the entire point of the game. If you could easily get loads of credits then noone would buy prems and the game would die. If you are not prepared to buy a prem then dont complain because it is your own choice

grim trout
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The game also would die if players spent days and days or even weeks just to get 15% of the tank, anyway I have been watching so much players playing and these stuff and almost all of them play in pc, with a emulator

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I dont know how it works that option that it only match me with same control players, idk how is it called know lol

agile sphinx
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You dont need an emulator to play blitz on PC, amd no the game is not dying because of that

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You can download the game from steam or the microsoft store

grim trout
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How do I do to play with just mobile players then

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To make it atleast more fair

agile sphinx
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You turn same control mode on, and it will put you with players with the same control mode ie mobile 🤦

grim trout
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Thats what I asked before, got confused about that

novel viper
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I get 350k credits in 3-4 games playing Lowe

undone pulsar
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Whoever thought that shutting down ratings at 9 pm pst and 12 am est on NA is an absolute genius

next gull
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I suspect there are more timezones on CIS and nearly as many on EU.
I have always believed that rating battles were shutting down at midnight local time.

grim trout
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I have a problem with the 550 xp daily mision, I got 1.1k with a x2 and I thought it was cause the x2, then I did 678 xp and it doesnt give me the mision, anything that Im doing wrong?

grim trout
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@novel viper premium tank

novel viper
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@grim trout I got it for free in huge container:)

grim trout
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Lmao, lucky

ornate spoke
ornate spoke
ornate spoke
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I waited 30 minutes to get into a game, this is stupid WG

restive dawn
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Nah

lyric cove
grim trout
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Any mod on? I was about to buy the offer of 4250 of gold for 10€ and it didnt give me anything, I still have 2k of gold, and I cant buy it again

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Its working now

ornate spoke
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@grim trout the moderation here can't help you with in game issues. Submit a ticket through customer support

ornate spoke
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how do you do customer supprot? i need it

low sandal
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@ornate spoke

dull lynx
cedar knoll
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Wat

wind moonBOT
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dynoSuccess _Ak3_#4860 has been warned.

ornate spoke
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:((

strange gale
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why is rating battles down

ornate spoke
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Its over

pine falcon
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@strange gale the month has ended therefore rating battles wil be closed for a few days.

strange gale
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damn. i needed to do a challenge for the last daily container

near finch
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Anyone have a idea about when the rewards will be handed out?

honest geyser
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Hi, It's true that the next season we will be able to play in tier 7, 8 and 9 ?

north path
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yes I think

normal garnet
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When will the rewards be given out for ratings

icy mica
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What rewards ther is no rewards for rating !!! Ah the poor avatar and camo

agile sphinx
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"We dont plan to change the rating bettes and the system of rewards" - WG basically saying that they dont care about what happens to ratings. People will keep leaving ratings and it will keep getting worse until it dies. Seems to be a bit like what will happen to the game eventually.

ornate spoke
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Tbh I understand them , I have had played 100 battles in that mode , and that was most toxic , frustrating, and annoying 100 battles in my life

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Only way they could turn that mode into more player friendly mode would be to mute everyone ,but then everone would just camp spawn etc

agile sphinx
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They need to completely redo the system. Muting everyone would be a terrible idea. The main issue is that the rewards are useless and the players you meet are the same as normal battles except they think they are great.

undone pulsar
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Finish in platinum or diamond league to get a rare camo that’s been recycled several times now

ornate spoke
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Yes but why is my 5k rating camo from previous seasons now only 4k rating worth? This is useless…

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I played 150 up to 200 battles just to get the 5k diamond camo on my WZ-113, IS-4 and E 50 M. Now they are just 4k worth.

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Thanks. This is great. I love ratings.

restive dawn
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Because we got a new diamond camo

agile sphinx
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Only reason i played ratings was to get the exclusive camo. Now i can just calibrate and maybe play 20 battles and i have the same thing. WG are slowly removing any incentive to play ratings and it is showing in the playerbase.

pine falcon
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Agreed. It is not fair for us, the players who had to play a tiny bit harder just to get it while it was exclusive.

agile sphinx
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Its not the end of the world its just another kick from WG to ratings players

next gull
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Problem is that ratings cost ressources to WG and no one is happy anyway.

ornate spoke
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@restive dawn What is new Diamond Camo?
I only saw one in the announcement.

pallid arch
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At least this season they are giving out a lot more gold

pine falcon
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@pallid arch uuum they do that always for Spring and Twister season because rating battles last 2 months

pallid arch
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Yes, but it is still a nice amount of gold

ornate spoke
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It’s hideous anyways

still latch
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On some tanks its niceeee

near finch
#

Were have you Sean wg say that they are removing that ^ camo (ik there wasn’t a photos of it in the ratting announcement but that doesn’t mean they won’t have it...

agile sphinx
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The camo is the same for 4k and 5k, and it is the same camo as the previous 5k camo. This means there is no way of geting the 4k camo again.

dark cedar
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Question. Do you get more credits in Ratings battles?? You get slightly more XP but what about credits.

bleak cliff
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Yes I believe you do

mental vigil
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yes you get more credits. Just have a look in the news for the september+october rating battles

dark cedar
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thanks. havent checked the news section yet

viscid compass
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Hi. Where is it better to do the calibration battles, in tier 7, 8, 9 or 10?

dark cedar
#

That’s a great question haha

molten whale
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Speech 100

ornate spoke
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@dull vine English please

pine falcon
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@dark cedar the tier doesn't matter. Do it in a tank you like. I most of the time calibrate in Bat Chat even though tier 10 is the hardest to get a good calibration.

viscid compass
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Oks, thanks by the answer.

pallid arch
ornate spoke
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Disgustang

normal garnet
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When do we get the camo for this season?

sharp frigate
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@viscid compass do it in your tank with the highest winrate, since more wins (with good damage) gives you a better calibration result

viscid compass
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@sharp frigate 👍

pine falcon
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Can we expect our rating rewards tomorrow as rating battles start on the 5th?

haughty onyx
#

Did someone say ranked?

near finch
#

Knowing wg you will probably get the rewards October...

steady valley
#

Ratings battles start today in NA

frozen lantern
#

Can some tell me how the new event works I’m confused

blissful portal
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What a nice start

blissful portal
#

Rating league Hall of fame isnt working right? I have league and it says i need to complete calibration

ornate spoke
pine falcon
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@ornate spoke same.

kind talon
#

8k gold is too low for 1st prize should at least be a t10 premium tank. a special premium

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i mean people will actually play and try to get 1st position if its a rare premium which you can only get if you get 1st in ratings

finite kraken
#

i want to get the camo on my tier 9 or 10 chinese tds ;)

iron cypress
#

do you have to pay credits to replenish the rating camo after battle?

fallen mortar
#

no

fallow canopy
#

You should add in the notifications on which tank(s) we won the camo

mental vigil
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Why is it possible to get the diamant camo with a 4K rating? 😢 thx for making it nothing unique anymore

late mural
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  1. The diamond camo has been devalued. Why delete the platinum camo?

  2. The rewards and earnings for play rating still not good enough. Not even close.

ornate spoke
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  • 4k = diamond camo....
ornate spoke
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It‘s been made quite easy with the calibration imo

kindred oxide
#

Feels like gambling. The less I did the more I won. Steamroll after another.

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Nice mode. If you want to feel like youre playing mad games.

agile sphinx
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Teammates seemed no different from normal games. Calibrated at 3k with SP1C doing pretty badly with 6 wins. My season is done because there is no reason to play any more games. Nice job WG 👍

blissful portal
#

Why does the Rating League leaderboard isnt working?

brave pelican
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yes why lol?

narrow heron
#

who plays ranked in 2019 llol

placid dawn
#

Who do you compete against in ratings battles? Is it just the players in ratings battles or do they play in the regular MM battles? Trying to figure how this works.

hazy pulsar
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@kind talon Wasn't the first price around 3k gold couple of months ago? 8k gold is okay I guess. If anyone is f2p at least, but I really doubt there are many f2p that reaches top 10.

kind talon
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8k is just not worth the effort

hazy pulsar
#

Well probably, although on SEA server good luck getting that many games in ratings anyway.

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I did play one season around december last year to get the camo and there were 14 players only at certain hours of the day..

iron zodiac
#

so the old 4k ratings camo is gone forever? And you can now get the old 5k rating from 4k rating?

wheat acorn
#

im leaving this group slow is so damn annoying

pine falcon
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@iron zodiac yes. Pretty much sums up how much WG care for the few people who play rating and try to be good at it.

warm nexus
#

WG fix this matchup system please
We got to wait so long because there r too many TDs

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And match wont start because there r only 3 Td limits per team

undone pulsar
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@warm nexus you’re complaining about 27 seconds?

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People have waited in queues for 6 hours

warm nexus
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No i m complaining about the matchup system

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WHy only 3 TD limit in a team, while the heavies can be matched upto 6 !

undone pulsar
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Do you want a camping fest?

restive dawn
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Yes

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I actually rather take teams full of tds instead of teams full of mediums ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm nexus
#

Exactly we dont mind putting up 5 TD in a team or even 7

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At least matchup will be faster

undone pulsar
#

Then make your own training room

placid dawn
#

Who do you compete against in ratings battles? Is it just the players in ratings battles or do they play in the regular MM battles? Trying to figure how this works.

latent spire
#

Ratings battles are in theory more skill based as all players are roughly at the same ability. Plus sometimes more rewards. Plus a non-WR impacting place to grind stock tanks / build skills etc

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But did I miss an announcement? Why are Ratings Battles only available at certain times? (Ie, can’t play ratings in the morning on the west coast??)

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(Maybe it’s always been certain times, but this is the first time I’m actually making an effort to play RBs)

ornate spoke
eager sun
#

BOI

ornate spoke
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I'm a mad lad

fallen mortar
#

yeah i love teams with 6 tds that all cant hit and pen anything just because they are blind and stupid

next gull
#

Untrue : they can blindshoot all the bushes. Eventually some will hit..

eager sun
#

so why i get warned for saying goddamn and this dude can say stupid ?

fallen mortar
#

Because stupid isnt swearing

placid dawn
#

So ratings don'r affect your WR? What benifit is getting the rating?

sterile geyser
#

It's either super high damage and a loss or a low damage win.

quartz aspen
#

How is swearing bad?

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Just because people say it is? Why those certain words?

tight sandal
#

So I assume wargaming fixed rating battles so Teir 7-10 can play

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Now I can finally play rating again

blissful portal
#

@sterile geyser we are both having that problem

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40% players are in every single game

sterile geyser
#

Ran into one that tried pushing me in front of the enemies because he thought I was “camping”

frigid kernel
#

wow

pine falcon
#

@tight sandal tbh you shouldn't even be playing rating if you don't have at least 1 tier 10.

tight sandal
#

Wow

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I am on tier 8 but it's not fully upgraded

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And why shouldn't I play without having a tier 10 your making it sound like a requirement or something

river fern
#

the best teams ever

fallen mortar
#

rating should be the peak of the iceberg so you should be very experienced

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this is how i like my teams full of super unis that actually know how to play this game and where you can trade shots so some teamplay is possible

viscid token
pine falcon
#

?

somber pagoda
#

make Tankenstein 105mm gun available in rating mode for meme sake pls

ornate spoke
#

like i won 1 battle today i played 8 battle

delicate lodge
#

Dont make us look your stats

ornate spoke
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lol

rotund lion
#

21- 3 win with my isu152 minimum 2500 or more dmg and still lose...

ornate spoke
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me too ._. but with my 59-Patton

rotund lion
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450 minus at the moment

agile sphinx
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Wow 2500 damage what an amzing carry 🤦

ornate spoke
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wait 1v4 i can’t do this they are full

rotund lion
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Allways top dmg jut sayin....

agile sphinx
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Beinh top damage doenst really mean anything

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You can be top damage and do 1k relatively easily

tame estuary
somber pagoda
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insert my 11 hours waiting for rating

tame estuary
agile sphinx
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Maybe play a tier where there are more people 🤦

tame estuary
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well tier 7,8 is the most popular on Asian server

agile sphinx
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Not from that screenshot

mental vigil
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You are slow 😉 in EU-Server we already have a few in the diamant league

neon saddle
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what can you get from playing ranked?

zinc salmon
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Hey guys i got platinum and 60 battles on obj 252 u when i got camo?

agile sphinx
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At the end of the season @zinc salmon

zinc salmon
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...ok when

undone pulsar
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50 something more days

ornate spoke
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I come back to play wotb with a hell bullet shell 😁

open iron
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is the NA ranking leader board broken?

frozen crag
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I hate rating battles

torpid walrus
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then dont play it

steady valley
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Well at least you are gaining in points even if you lost

ornate spoke
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yo

neat tree
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Instead of making a separate rating battle why not make rating battles= supremacy mode? Open it up for tier 5 to 10 and always available.

frozen crag
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I have a 60% wr normally, for 30 day stats at least. I’ve played about 80 games in my is3, and about 10 of them I’ve lost but my rating hasn’t decreased much at all. This is how bad teams are.

somber pagoda
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it's twister season so yeah you should expect the matchmaking didn't give you team that really competitive because the influx new rating player

pine falcon
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@neat tree no, no thanks. That is a horrible idea. Why open a battle type that is supposed to be skill based to low tiers?

neat tree
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Because the match making is based on their rating? Why the elitist attitude? Rating battles supposedly is based on their ratings, right? Then new players meet new players, good veterans meets each other. Bad players meet bad players.

pine falcon
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You are forgetting re rolls which will destroy that type of match making. As the game will think they are new even though they may have had a lot of experience and put them with some players that just started playing the game. Also how do you distinguish a veteran, or based on what do you call someone a veteran?

neat tree
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Battle count? Or WN8?
Anyway this is a tangent on what I said. Let rating battles = supremacy mode. Or supremacy battles = rating battles. This would solve the lack of players problems in smaller servers. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy waiting for 3 to 5 minutes to join a battle. I just want to play, not twiddling my thumbs waiting for a battle.

pine falcon
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How is it tangent when I just followed up on what you said in the previous post? Also if you just want to play play the random battles. The problem with supremacy being only for rating battles (as you suggested) will mean that whoever comes to play rating battles will have no clue wtf those numbers at the top mean therefore will just quit after a few battles as they are not used to that and supremacy is often quite different from encounter.

neat tree
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Not knowing the numbers on top will be cured quickly in 3 or 4 battles. I already know how to play supremacy mode when I was in tier 2 courtesy of YouTube videos.
You are right that random public game waiting time 1 minutes or less. My suggestion will make rating battle as quickly matched as that. And also skill based supposedly, or at least less lopsided in skills.

pine falcon
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And therefore I repeat, how do you determine which player is skilled or not? Because you want to match up players by skill.

neat tree
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Er, was that not the point of calibration before rating battle?

agile sphinx
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Rating battles do not put only or bad players against bad players. The MM balences rating between teams but thete is not limit to the range of the rating in one team.

Rating should be an elitist game mode as it is the most competitive thing you can play with random people. Rating is already bad enough having tier 7 and 8 because it is too easy for people to buy their way in. Also there are more OP tanks at this tier so someone who only played WZ 120 FT to get to 5k will not be as skilled as someone who made it there in a grille in the same amount of battles. Ratings should be tier 10 only, but for the smaller servers it would work woth tier 9 and 10 to reduce queue times. We want to increase the playerbase in ratings but we dont want to encourage any 500 battle noob to be playing a game mode designed for the best.

If people at tier 10 still have no idea how to stop the reds winning by points in supremacy you think they will learn what the rating points system is in 3-4 battles?

Calibrating in youe system would not be accurate. For example people could calibrate in a say a krupp. They would be able to carry the noobs that have just started tier 5 so much easier than someone calibrating at tier 10. This means people who play thr lower tiers will seem to do better which means anyone going for the season prizes will just club tier 5 constantly. This isnt good for anyone.

@neat tree

neat tree
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Thank you for the responses.

  1. If people don't understand how they get their rating points, then the failure is on wargaming for not sufficiently communicating how to calculate the points.
  2. Create ratings for each tiers. Such as tier 5 ratings is different from tier 6.
  3. If rating battles is to be restricted for the elites, then my suggestion that supremacy battle = rating battles, can be restricted only for tier 9 and 10. So in supremacy battle tier 8 is always top tier, while tier 9 and 10 only ratings battle.
    People grinding tier 9 can do it in encounter mode, which should take a considerable amount of battle given the xp needed to get the top modules.
  4. Match making should group people based on their ratings. Sufficiently wide range so can be covered in +/- 1 tier. Then the people who complained about rigged MM can find other excuses for being bad at this game.

The point is to make rating battles popular and not making people waiting for a long time to get into battle.

agile sphinx
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You cannot expect noobs who have just made it to tier 5 to read and understand how ratings works.

Creating that many different ratings is pointless because then you have single tier ratings and so queue times are huge and there are no rewards.

There is no reason to turn supremacy battles into rating battles. It just needlessly complicates things and takes away supremacy battles for people who dont want to play ratings but do want to play tier 9 and 10.

grizzled pilot
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hello i have somone to report for ban named aleksandrbojko513 was hacked your game is be invisible on the cap and i go on the cap and the base continue to be captured

neat tree
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If the consensus is to make ratings battles available only for the elites then drop ratings battle from general availability. Put it under tournament section, available only to tier 10 tanks and only done on peak hours of the server daily, such as from 18:00 to 20:00.
Don't halfway do it like now. Either it's open for all or only elites. Choose one or the other.
By open to all I meant without any restrictions on players qualifications like now.

agile sphinx
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Making it open at peak times and putting it under the tournament section would just drive player participation down even more. What WG need to do is actually give out some valuable rewards and fix the points system so it takes skill to get to 5k. Nothing more can happen to ratings until more people who should be there start playing it. It should be a change from normal battles but the quality of teammates does not change. Unfortunately WG have said they arent going to change anything for a bit and so ratings is just going to die.

broken sonnet
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🤔

blissful portal
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Rating teams are disgusting

torpid walrus
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i wonder why

quartz aspen
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I just think of ratings as random battles with a rating, since WG let’s anyone do them

bleak cliff
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In ratings you should be teamed with people around the same rating as you. But, this doesn't work as not enough people play ratings. So, either the rewards needs to be increased or different rewards for lower leagues needs to be added. Like X amount of gold for finishing in a certain league or credits/free xp but you need a certain amount of battles to get these rewards, (e.g 50-100 battles).
Also only tiers 8 and 10 should be ratings as they provide the most skill, and stop the tier 7/8 spam, making ratings better for most players as teams won't be mixed tiers.

neat tree
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@quartz aspen exactly! For now it's a random battle with brownies points 😀 😀 😀
@agile sphinx you don't want ratings to die nor do you want to open to a wider participation. If it's restricted to elites there will be no doubt about it's eventual death.

This is a mobile game, if it doesn't attract new players everyday it will die. Players who sticks around for 5 years + is basically less than 1% of total players population. The majority will play for less than 1 year.
I am player number 2 billions something, how many people play the game each day? Less than 75.000 each day for ALL servers.
For ratings battle to exist they need to be attractive to that 75.000 persons, not the elite 100 scattered over 4 main server with 24 hours difference.

And that may be the ultimate solution. Create a separate server for the top 200 players worldwide where they only play tier 8 to 10. Of course they are also banned to join the regular plebian server of RU, EU, NA and ASIA unless it's an alternate account.

fallen mortar
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That solution is just stupid

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If you increase the rewards mire nubs will come but I'd love to make it T10 only and then give like 100 gold for all who finish above 5k or something except those top 100 or how its rn they'll get higher rewards. Ratings with prem acc and 30B is really good for making credits and i have quite good teams most of the time

pine falcon
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That is not a bad idea actually. If you reach diamond, you get a small reward (not including cammos) which might have encourage more people to climb to diamond (especially PC players as they don't have the option to watch ads). Also about the tiers, I don't see why rating shouldn't be T9 and T10 like it was when it first came out.

sage verge
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Good players dont usually have the time to play 10h a day

pine falcon
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Reaching diamond league is pretty easy ... for pro players it is even easier. Should take about 150 battles max. Also pro players earn gold from tourneys so 250 gold wouldn't be something of big interest.

sage verge
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I was commenting on wallet potatos idea of own server for pros. There would be hyper long ques due to the low amount of players, Unless they play 10h a day

ornate spoke
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i wait 24minutes....3400rat

lean hill
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We need a better mm for rating battle am always with 60% reroll with less than 2k average dmg on their t10

neat tree
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@fallen mortar 100 gold for finishing above 5K rating? I can get that clicking ad for 2 days. Even on PC I can get that in 1 week missions. Why would I trouble myself for that measly reward? Add 2 zeros behind for top 10 players rating, then you are talking. 10.000 gold is better than 6 months clicking advertisement. It also should buy some prammo or camouflage. That is an incentive.
@sage verge Playing 10 hours a day is the definition of professional players, people whose job is playing video games. Working for 60 hours per week is common even in the US for certain industries. Why should a video game player be working for less time?

Nevertheless why should a separate server for top 100 players for each public server be having a long queue time? There are 400 people in the server population. There is only one queue, first come first serve. Players can only play in tier 8 to 10 as a bonus for those who are nostalgic about +/-2 match making.
Assuming everyone plays for 2 hours each, there are about 30 players every time. Why would there be a long queue time?

As a bonus for the common players there would be somewhat less salt in the regional server. Win win solution. Top players are not bothered by the Windex, the Windex get somewhat less insult.

To keep getting fresh blood in the 400 add a promotion and degradation scheme. Those who fell for less 50% winning rate in 90 days get demoted to the server he came from while the next top players from that regions get promoted to replace him/her.

fallen mortar
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i slowy start to question your sanity ... there is no such thing as a sponsored E-sport league for Blitz since its to small compared to big games like LoL and yes there is a bigger event once a year but you cant live from playing only WoTB and 2nd too high price attract noobs and bots battle spaming to get thier ratings up, and yeah mobile players have adds but as a PC player i dont have those and i dont play enough to get my weekly containers since there are always toon missions and i dont toon after all or pretty rarely so i´d be happy for every little bit of gold i can get by playing ranked and i never get to the top 10 ranked players since they probably play all day

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i get bored after less then 1h hour playing WoTB soo never ever going to play 10h a day thats insane

neat tree
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I play on PC myself, but nothing prevent me from installing the game client on my phone with the same name just to get those gold from ad clicking.

I didn't say that professional players just play WoT blitz only. The one that brings up 10 hours playing was not me. I said the definition of a professional is one who's livelihood depends solely on that job. A professional gamers should put the hours necessary to get that livelihood. Just like a lawyer, doctor or carpenter. If he or she needs to do 12 hours daily to be able to make a living, then so be it.
Now if what people meant by pro players = great players then say great players. Great players is not always a professional players. I don't know which kind of players @sage verge meant, but he/she wrote "pro players don't play 10 hours a day". That is the statement I disagree.

Speaking of putting the necessary hours, ther are people who have played this game more than 120K battles, which for 5 years that meant over 100 battles a day or more than 5 hours daily.

PS my sanity is well as attested by 100 people daily 😀 😀 😀

sage verge
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@neat tree if your income is purely based off this game I suggest you change ur career

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People that play this game 5h+ a day are usually the above average kind

neat tree
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No worries, this is just a game I played because I like blowing things up in a game.
And yes, I was flabbergasted when I saw those statistics on blitzstars.

tawdry jacinth
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Something you guys might not understand is that the mm system on rateing tries to keep the total rateing number the same for both teams. This is why the higher you climb the more lower rated players will be on your team and thus harder to win. I think it’s a splendid system that WGing got perfect

fallen mortar
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no i get better players the higher i get

tawdry jacinth
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Of course. If their are enough available

fallen mortar
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True but im pretty much okay with ratings rn but i only play 3 tanks 30b stb and foch 155

wild sun
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Hi ..how is it possible to have enemy with enough rating points to be in higher league ,play in lower league

spare path
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not enough players

blissful portal
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3 battles in a Row 7 vs 1 reds win, pretty balanced MM

torpid walrus
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think of it this way, you're so good mm balances you by putting bad players on your team

blissful portal
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lol nice one @torpid walrus

torpid walrus
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if you're gonna be toxic, be a different kind of toxic

wild sun
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@spare path cheers ...thought that was the case

quartz aspen
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Another thing I tell myself to keep my cool is that I get tunneled because they know how great I am XD

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I am not actually that great though.

low kayak
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Just make ratings tier 10 only, Wargaming. Over 2/3 of teams I was the only person above 50% WR on my team. Had even a guy with 28% and 34-38%, how’s that a good gaming experience for anyone?

steady valley
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I see alot of this too. I think players that bad hope to be carried, or they come to ratings battles to play and not further lower their win rate. They don’t really care about getting a decent rating anyway. But to them its play that doesnt mean anything, they stay at 40% and don’t have to worry about dropping to 30%.

solar wing
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if you are 28% it means you are litterlly trying to lose. being afk would give you a higher winrate

silent solar
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Get rid of ratings missions. A big chunk of players are not interested in ratings and only play them to get missions done. We don't care if it takes 12 battles to get 3 wins for mission or what our rating is at the end of it. We just want our mission crates.

bleak cliff
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It's an incentive for players to play ratings, but also hurts ratings due to people not caring and just wanting to win and get their mission done

next gull
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Lol. Last rating season was tier 10 only.
I remember people complaining about low winrate players. @low kayak how tier 10 only would fix anything ?

low kayak
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Would decrease the number of clueless players as many of them don’t have tier 10 tank. Hard to get xp and credits for tier 9 if you have 31% WR and 200 avg dmg with 800 games on their account 😒 And last rating season with tier X only was way more playable than this zoo we have now.

shut tapir
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Calibrated into platinum and get noobs ofc

bleak mountain
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@shut tapir welcome to rating battles

zenith trellis
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Since the change to tier 10, I am getting nowhere anymore in rating anymore. Even struggle to stay in gold, while before I always got in platinum. How is that? Anybody any idea?

undone pulsar
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Who wants to tell him

river portal
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😕

pallid arch
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Looks like you do...

wind moonBOT
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dynoSuccess I don't know me#3202 has been warned.

ornate spoke
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Should i wait more?

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i dont wait 15minutes to get 40wr guys in my team and lose...

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matchmaking is a meme

charred leaf
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There’s no incentive to play ratings battles. All you get is some avatar which lasts for a month and other useless things. Only the top of the top get decent rewards, and even the rewards given is not worth the time and effort that you take to grind. Maybe to populate the ratings queue, WG should actually give proper prizes instead of throwing people into ratings so that they can complete missions. I mean, it seems logical, right?

ornate spoke
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well, im top 8 on eu right now so i have some chances to get good rewards, but with this queue waiting time and after getting noobs its imposible to even try passing to top 4

next gull
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These are the joys of skill-based MM everyone is asking for, I guess.

molten whale
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Hey atleast its not a t22

iron zodiac
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Why does it take so long to get into a rating game with a tier 7 tank

floral fern
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After what period of unplaying time my rating would be lost? One week or longer?

iron zodiac
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60days for this season, your rating of August is already reset

ornate spoke
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hmm

tacit scaffold
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hi not done ratings for ages...any 1 know what decides which league you get in...damage or wins

iron zodiac
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To calibrate I think damage and winrate unfortunately

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After that Damage and surviving

tacit scaffold
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yea cheers...1 my clan answered me on it...but ty

warm berry
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Ratings.

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The lowest number of battles Ive seen in ratings format.

neat tree
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@iron zodiac try to join during peak hours for your server. See blitzstars to find out the hours. It should help.

zinc kite
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introduce low Tier 1-6 rating beside the normal Tier 7-10 raring 🙏😃 newbies also want to have fun A N D they might disturb less in higher Tiers 😜

fallen mortar
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bad idea nobody wants 5k ranking players that just sealclubbed thier way to 5k and have fun with those waiting times

short snow
ornate spoke
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Oh, life is fair. You just need to get good

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Or buy a premium T8

short snow
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Bill gates said that. life is not fair

ornate spoke
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I'm at 4k even after playing Obj 140 with he ammo only for about 20 battles

short snow
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so should i here u or bill gate. :))

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u r pro

ornate spoke
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I'm not a pro, I just threw my wallet at wg and played Skorpion G

short snow
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u mean this. my last time :))

normal garnet
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Bru

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I’m so stooopid. Instead of calibrating ez I did it at tier X so I got 3.5k. Now I gotta grind for 4K -_-

haughty onyx
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Imagine caring about rating

ornate spoke
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rating is so fun

ornate spoke
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Lol I am a noob in this game..

dry rivet
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We all @ornate spoke

ornate spoke
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Lol XD

fleet fog
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Can u make a more skill based matchmaker for ratings because of those bots who have no clue how to play ratings or anytime type of battle for that matter

restive dawn
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take a look at pinned messages pls

fleet fog
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Bruh..

neat halo
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so do I have this right, we don't get the rating camos for getting over 4k until the end of the season?

normal garnet
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Yes @neat halo

bleak cliff
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The leaderboard on the website isn't working again.

night crypt
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Serious question

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Is the leader board ever up?

rocky fox
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Since there is no channel for realistic mode, I’ll put it in here. Realistic mode, which is supposed to be so fun, is a failure on the Asia server. There are hardly any players playing and it is very difficult to get a game in even after waiting for a Long time. Maybe we need a 3 v 3 or 4 v 4 scenario instead of 7 v 7 to at least get some games in. @ornate spoke

iron zodiac
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@ornate spoke did you calibrate in 5k?

ornate spoke
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yes

iron zodiac
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Did you win all 10 and basically had and avg damage of 3k?

ornate spoke
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Well i won every game of the calibration and started with 4600 rating

iron zodiac
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ahhh still very high

normal garnet
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Wg has to make ratings restricted to a certain wr

ornate spoke
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like 50%?

normal garnet
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I’ve had the same 40% pos teams for 12 battles in a row and have only won 4 of them

ornate spoke
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i’m always with 40 or 37% wr

pearl shale
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What are the odds of having the same teams for 12 battles in a row?

normal garnet
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@pearl shale very high

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Yep. This gamemode is pointless. If there are this many 40%ers running around, ratings might as well be removed.

keen urchin
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LOL i had a teamate the other night 39% wr 338 avg damage

normal garnet
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Lol

neat tree
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@rocky fox tier 8 seems more popular. Tier 9 and 10 is a wasteland. Tier 6 is good. Try to join during 18:00 to 21:00 UTC+8.
My suggestion a few posts above is to group tier 5-7 in a battle together and another at tier 8-10.
Or replace the supremacy mide with realistic mode for that weekend.

iron zodiac
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Ratings are fun once you have got till about 4.3k rating, everything under that you have to carry carry carry. I played 200 games and won 100. Went from 3400 up to 4300 lol.

If you lose just try and lose with as much damage and try to stay alive till last, that way you will lose a little rating points.

And when you play to save your HP and get your damage up in each game then you will gain a lot when you win.

Generally I lose not more than 10 when I lose but gain about 35 when I win

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So basically with 50% winrate I still went up 900 points

sage verge
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Carrying is much more fun than being the average one

stray panther
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👀

short snow
undone pulsar
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2594 calibration? Yikes

pastel timber
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At that point I would attempt to go lower and see how low can u really get

normal garnet
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Lol

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@pastel timber yesterday I saw someone with 1.7k rating

pastel timber
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That's working purposely

ornate spoke
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You have to try to get a rating that low

jade folio
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Can you fix the ratings
We wanted ratings exclusively for any 1 tier but what we get here is 4 tier rating system bonanza....the queue is as long as 10-15min for a single match here in Asia
I guess NA is facing the same problems....man its so frustrating that to play 3-4min match you need to wait for 10min

fleet fog
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Ratings is literally kinda like gambling for me rn.. I get into platinum.. I want to get even more points so I play more. I lose it and get put back into gold and repeat again like a million times..

distant hinge
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I tried to see how low I could get my rating to go. In calibration I lost 9/10 battles (none on purpose or due to trolling). I got below 2K. I can’t recall the exact figure, but I I believe it was around 1.4K, I didn’t touch it again after that for the entire season. The highest I ever managed was 5.7K. (I calibrated at exactly 4K that season)

jade folio
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When you reach 4500+ ratings the queue time is like 5-10mins
Thats really frustrating......
Wg should consider Asia as a server too ...yeah majority of players are in EU and RU server but the more you neglect a server the more players will stop playing in that server

dire quiver
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I made it my goal to get calibrated into bronze before

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Had a solid 1600 lol

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Have to be at tier 10, spot no one, and kill yourself, that’s how you get low lol

normal garnet
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xD

normal garnet
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Omfg again!!! Now I’m getting trolls in ratings. Just outright trolls

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WG u guys have to fix MM in ratings, it’s bs. And make it restricted to a certain winrate, like 52%

fallen mortar
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guess im doing something right since my MM is good and my waiting time is long but most of the time worth it

normal garnet
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@fallen mortar I’ve lost 5 in a row and I’ve been waiting for 6 minutes each game

fallen mortar
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same but i havent lost to many points so im happy xD

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and i havent played in 2 days which makes me even more happy

normal garnet
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Last game I asked for help for 3 minutes. No answer. WG has to change this mode. It’s unplayable

bright bear
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NA wait times rip

latent jolt
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rating is easy to climb in teir 8 with object 252U

bleak cliff
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@normal garnet dude actually stop crying and get good. I've seen you play and it's nothing special. Want to do good in ratings? Actually get good at the game.

latent jolt
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lol

normal garnet
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@bleak cliff I know u didn’t just say that kid. If I’m bad at the game then why do I have a 61.31% wr and am actually going up in ratings? And no one is even inviting u to the conversation. It’s hard when 7 games in a row u get bs rng and sht teams

bright bear
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I don’t think this is the right place for a dispute

normal garnet
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@bright bear ur right, I’ll just DM this 53%er

median scaffold
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oof

latent jolt
pastel timber
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Approx date for the day when only Tech tree tanks get rating points?
Don’t worry i can wait... just hope to see a date so i can begin ratings again then.
(From an owner of Wz-1FT.. I’m only interested in balance and engaging gameplay)

agile sphinx
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You lost 🤷

fallen mortar
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All those mm complaints get annoying after some time

plush yarrow
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@latent jolt ha I'm above you lol

jagged dirge
ornate spoke
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Probably last battle on his calibration and maybe an M in this tier 8 battle?

normal garnet
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Just to make sure. The tank above each tier is the tank you’ve played the most ratings in that tier, right?

quartz aspen
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Yes

iron zodiac
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And if you play 50 games in that tier, the camo will go to the tank that is displayed

rough gorge
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Is it true you can now get the 5k cammo at 4k for twister?

bleak cliff
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Yes

ornate spoke
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i somehow manage to calibrate at 2k

normal garnet
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Big oof

quartz aspen
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I didn’t do too well and only got 3200

molten whale
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Is it possible to calibrate at bronze

fallen mortar
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it is @molten whale

ornate spoke
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Ugh just got 3850

ripe tiger
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@ornate spoke have the ultimate screen of kv-2 sadness.Update time NA

sonic lynx
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Since One Week between 4500-4600😭 this MM😑

fallen mortar
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It's not mm

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Just git gud

fallen mortar
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The only messages that get deleted are the ones where you swear or name and shame @Arkaliandes [OURS]#3521

fallen mortar
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ive seen people with 0 % wr at 5k

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ranked doesnt effect Wr so a 23% player could play like a 70% and nobody would notice

strong pond
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Hello

ornate spoke
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@ornate spoke Lol kiss 😘

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and I'm new, give me time for up my wr pls

restive dawn
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No name and shame pls

wind moonBOT
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dynoSuccess NeroTiny#4881 has been warned.

ornate spoke
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We don't call out other players here.

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Nowhere. We simply don't call out other players on this server. If you have an issue submit a ticket through customer support, do not try to publicly shame them here.

low sandal
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@ornate spoke try rolling swarms discord server

loud minnow
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The near-diamond ratings experience on NA
Honestly only tier 10 ratings were so much better 😦

bleak cliff
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@loud minnow I know your pain. But diamond rating = 10 minutes to an hour queue time, which is extremely annoying for only 3 minutes of gameplay.

loud minnow
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ik, I could probs dig up lots of old screenshots of queue times
I just do homework while playing ratings because I only play the game like 20% of the time

ornate spoke
latent jolt
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@bleak cliff dude same

ornate spoke
austere schooner
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It would be nice if the rewards on rating battles were bigger, I'm pretty sure it would be played a lot more like this

glossy raptor
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Agree

wind moonBOT
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undone pulsar
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@ornate spoke

boreal warren
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Remove supremacy from ratings battles. Make everybody fight

fallen mortar
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how about no ?

boreal warren
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So you one of those guys who likes to chase bases and not fight?

fallen mortar
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No I'm a fighter but tourneys are tactical and so should be ranked and both are supremacy

agile sphinx
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Ratings should reward intelligence as well as skill. Supremacy does that if you are smart enough to cap and hold 2 bases you deserve to win

pearl shale
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^

quartz aspen
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Should remove encounter battles if anything

ornate spoke
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Does anyone know how to receive the rating camos. I reached platinum does that mean I get platinum camo even if my rating drops to gold. And what does the 50 battle minimum mean. Can someone explain please thanks

pearl shale
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They give them to you after the season ends. Arrival times may vary

bleak cliff
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@ornate spoke so you get the Camo in your most played tank after 50 battles at one tier and are at least in platinum. You will receive the Camo after the rating season ends

ornate spoke
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And I will receive the camo even if I later drop down into gold for example? Or do I have to stay in platinum until the season ends to get it? @bleak cliff

bleak cliff
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You have to stay in platinum until the season ends

ornate spoke
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Okay gotcha thanks

bleak cliff
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Leaderboard is down again...

boreal warren
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No they need to remove supremacy it sux

bleak cliff
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You can disable it.... or just don’t play ratings

abstract dove
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Where do I submit an idea for an additional option in mm?

iron zodiac
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not here

vocal mulch
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Why aren't people playing realistic games??? I want to play but I'm kept waiting for 10 minutes.. it's ridiculous. Why even devolop such an amazing game mode without advertising it and encouraging players to play the realistic mode????

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And even after taking the trouble to wait, all I can see is 10 players waiting... And that too people take all tiers of tanks... None can get any game... Some try to build concentration in a particular tier for example 8. Then the waiting list somehow reaches 7 or 8 players... Even then we had to wait longer... Nothing happens...
Atleast put 3 vs 3, 4 vs 4 like that... Just let it happen.

late mural
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Same problem in realistic as in ratings: they are hard. Most players like easier games. So WG needs give more incentives to play realistic or ratings. Higher credit earnings would surely help.

next gull
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There is need of better reward in ratings, there is no need of any reward inbrealistic mode. But I agree that waiting time are ridiculously long in realistic mode : WG should loose the MM conditions

dire quiver
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Lets make tier 5 match tier 10, epic meme

still latch
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The reasons queue times are long is cause the majority of players on NA dont seem interested in it, and even during the busiest time on the server, rarely anyone is in the realistic battle queue

vocal mulch
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That's waht I'm talking about. WG should do something about it, to make realistic games interesting... Like @late mural said, WG should increase the credits and also introduce realistic mode specific containers. This will definitely improve the player count of the realistic games.

surreal kettle
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Lets make tier 1 match tier 10

vocal mulch
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Wtf? @surreal kettle you know the results. Why even bother doing it?? A simple ramming with Maus is enough to blast 'em off

surreal kettle
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Maybe a game mode where 5 lower tiers (by 3-5) battle against higher tier (By 3-5)

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i jsut wanna see people get wrecked

next gull
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Allow +/-2 or 5v5, 3TD/team... in realistic. 3min wait even when 20 players are available at tier +/-1 is ridiculous.
Rating is different, you are supposed to compete against players with similar rating in a fair environment.

fallen mortar
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How about you stop discussing that in the ranked chat? And the solution is stop realistic and go for mad games again the fact that you can grind stock tanks should be enough to encourage people to play.

late mural
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Most players certainly don't either know or care about the grinding stock tanks for "free" option.

5 vs 5 (or even 4 vs 4) battles would be a good solution for the queue problem. I guess it would also help with TD spam in realistic mode.

pearl shale
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Don't think that would help that much. Had a game the other day with 8 TDs

dry arch
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What's this "stock tank" bit about?

ornate spoke
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new mm?

sudden edge
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i think the new MM is working very good @ornate spoke ??

fallen mortar
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thats the karma for playing WZ

ornate spoke
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lol antoher guy who doesnt have work ??

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@fallen mortar

fallen mortar
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money wouldnt be a problem but i cant stand people crying about MM in such tanks clubbing thier ranking up at T8

agile sphinx
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But getting to 5k in a WZ120FT needs the same skill as getting there in a tier 10... /s

wind moonBOT
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fallen mortar
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obviously xD

agile sphinx
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Hahahahahaha I dont get it, all I see is 2 ratings teams that have a difference of 300 points if we dont include the provisional ratings for people who haven't calibrated @vivid shore

bleak cliff
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Today I have played 4 hours of rating battles and this is what I have found:
Only 9 battles, all at tier 10
7 wins, gaining an average of 11 rating per win, 2.6k damage average per battle
Queue time average for those 9 battles over 4 hours: 26.6 minutes of queue time just for one battle, that lasts for about 3-4 minutes.

Now my current rating is 5451, which I know contributes to the wait time as the teams need to have a balanced average rating score, but the amount of wait time to battle time is horrible, but I am fine with it as the teams were very competent in how they played.

There needs to be some sort of incentive, (better than there already is) for players to play and try and reach the higher rating league. Last season it was a Camo, which has now been more widely available to 4000 rating instead of 5000 rating to receive it.
I suggest that there be a different Camo, permanently for these two rating leagues as that gives some sort of incentive to go for besides a top position for gold.
Besides incentive, ratings should only be tiers 8 and 10, as those are the most competitive tiers.
But I also liked when ratings were exclusively tier 10 as that provided a good wait time and just a better experience overall as the teams were better as there were no ‘useless’ tier 9s that can’t do anything, or get nuked by a td, rendering them more useless.

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Also, the scoreboard shouldn’t be down in the middle of the season, or at all for that fact, (yes I know technical issues happen), as players like to see where they sit on the leaderboard, and how much they need to climb to receive the end of season rewards.

undone pulsar
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@bleak cliff I thoroughly like the idea of punishing players for being good by wasting their time looking for a match

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What a great system

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Seriously though. Make it 5v5. Make it only tier x. Tighten up the points spreads.

bleak cliff
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I was just saying I don't mind waiting for a decent team, but it's very annoying. There needs to be something better inplace to get more players or change how many on a team

undone pulsar
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People have waited for hours to lose 7-0

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What’s the point?

bleak cliff
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There isn't one, and that's the part of the problem

undone pulsar
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Split tiers is stupid on na and I’m guessing asia

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We don’t have enough players to support it

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The first issue of rating is the lack of players at least on na

bleak cliff
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There's no point to playing ratings unless you want a top position or to get to 4k rating to get a camo. That's it for most/all players, besides grinding xp on a tank without your stats being effective

undone pulsar
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It’s made worse by being in 4 different tiers

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The top rating spot should be 10k gold

bleak cliff
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Yeah, I think it's like 8k gold right now

undone pulsar
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Top 10 get a special Camo

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Or a tier 8 premium

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Something

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Something worthwhile

bleak cliff
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There either needs to be better rewards for top 5 / top 10 or a better match maker/team balancer

undone pulsar
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Mm isn’t the issue I don’t think

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The teams average points are usually pretty close

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That’s it “working”

bleak cliff
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The wait times, which are determined by the balancing of rating of either team

undone pulsar
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Points aren’t indicative of skill though

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Which is another issue entirely

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People who spam battles in op tanks can get to 5k without being worthy of diamond

bleak cliff
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Yeah, especially at tier 8. The wz 120 was and probably still is the tier 8 rating meta if you want to climb

undone pulsar
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I saw a 47% player with 700+ battles hit 5k

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And before anyone yells at me for win rate shaming, I understand

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Wr doesn’t always mean skill

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But. You wouldn’t expect to see a 47% player in diamond league

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Again. Spammed tier 8

bleak cliff
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Tier 8 ratings are very, tank based. Tier 8 is just a mess of a tier when played semi competitvely

undone pulsar
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I would like to see ratings be tech tree only

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If it’s about skill, wallets are removed from the equation

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Everyone has equal access to everything. Crew. Equipment. Consumables. Tanks.

bleak cliff
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It would make a difference in how it's played. And adds more skill and thinking to the table

undone pulsar
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Plus. You would have to think instead of playing a Wz td and being high tier

bleak cliff
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Yeah

undone pulsar
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I would like to see maps be shrunk down and made into 5v5. I think that would make things more dynamic.

bleak cliff
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Tiers 7 and 9 shouldn't be in ratings as well. They are just fill tiers and aren't anything useful in terms of team balance, and just add extra queue time for people playing at tier 8 and 10

undone pulsar
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Currently there’s no real difference between regular and rating battles

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Make ratings tighter and more team based

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1/5 > 1/7

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Each person has a far greater effect on if you win

bleak cliff
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5v5 and smaller maps would definitely separate ratings from regular bsttles, and it would make it appealing as it's something different

blissful portal
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8 loses in a row teams are horrible in all 8 top dmg

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Niceee 5v5

bleak cliff
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If you're losing a lot and care about your rating then just stop playing, most likely the teams will stay the same and you'll keep losing

undone pulsar
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What if the map was only between the red lines? Shrunk down to encourage more brawls and focus fire instead of aimlessly driving around

bleak cliff
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It would make battles more strategic, but also possibly end quicker

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5v5 would make it easier to carrier tho, so it depends on the map pool as some maps are harder to work with than others

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Either sizing down already existing maps or making completely new ones would be good, giving more diversity inside the game

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Or even just having a difference in rewards for a tier 8 ratings player and a tier 10 player. The tiers could be split into two different leagues, tier 10 first places could get 10k gold and tier 8 could get 8k gold for example. But this could change the amount of players either way tho.

undone pulsar
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@bleak cliff make each tier have a unique camo

bleak cliff
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Yeah, camo for each tier/league and for top 3

fallen mortar
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I think if you shrink some maps some people will just feel encouraged to camp

hollow night
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For a game with as much RNG as tanks, making games more focused on shooting and brawling is stupid. If we wanted to play a game based on "who has better fine motor skills" then we would be playing Counter strike or something.

I like the idea of 5v5 though, since it's got the same effect as having bigger maps, and fewer players on the board increases the impact of a skilled player.

slim pecan
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I’d honestly like to see more brawling engagements though...RNG or not. the current play style can get a bit stale...for me at least.

pearl shale
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I see your smaller maps idea and raise you this.

What if the map started at normal size but the redline shrunk over time forcing all tanks to move closer and closer to the center of the map after a while.

agile sphinx
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But how would the game force the 6 spawn campers be forced to move without a load of bugs? Oh wait maybe thats a great idea, if you get hit by the red line you get yeeted into the sky like the bt7 glitch...

next gull
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You lose hp like in water.

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Wow, mixing global warming floods with ww2...🤔

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The first issue to me is the queue time/lack of interest of the player base. 5v5 on the current maps might be a solution : easy to implement for WG, less players needed.

There will always be players finding their way to reach high rating with the 'wrong' tank or whatever. Nothing to complain about, they are playing by the rules. It is unlikely that they reach the top 10 though.

undone pulsar
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@pearl shale rating battle royale

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I don’t know if the idea of a storm is good though. Mobility based tanks still need room so it would defeat the purpose of them a bit

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Certainly a good thought though

bleak cliff
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Okay. So as you can see I sat in queue for 1 BATTLE. One stupid tier 10 battle of ratings. I sat in queue for 1 hour and 40 minutes

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This is plainly stupid as my comptitor is just 30 rating below me, and if I have to wait so long for a battle where I might gain 11 rating or lose 11 rating, then what's the point.

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There honestly needs to be some sort of failsafe where if a player is sat in queue for X amount of time, (let’s say 20 minutes), then they get queue priority, meaning they will be out in battle no matter what the ‘balancing of teams’ or whatever the match making algorithm is. It just gets bypassed as, who in their actual sane mind wants to sit in queue for longer than 10 minutes for a game, let alone 1 hour and 40 minutes

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Throughout my time in queue I saw the numbers, for tier 10 constantly go up and down, up to more then enough for a battle, then suddenly they went down to 1 or 2 people in tier 10. This went on constantly, and constantly I wasn’t in battle.

river portal
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yep that happened to me last time I tried in ratings

fallen mortar
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i saw someone waiting for 10h and then leaving the mm

autumn shadow
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Current season ends at October 1st?

bleak cliff
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31st of October it ends

ornate spoke
deep flume
ornate spoke
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about time

pine falcon
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And guess what happens if in rating games you only match up against the same tier. Well you don't need to guess because I will tell you. Ratings in NA and ASIA will die completely. EU rating will be horrible and RU ratings won't be affected much. So you propose to kill 2 servers and horribly damage another one just so that you get in the same tier match up? Interesting but I refuse.

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I have another idea. Why not leave rating as it is

pine falcon
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Tier 8 only was horrible and very very few people got to diamond. For tier 10 it was kind of fun but that is because you are the highest tier of all meaning that by playing tier 10 you can never be bottom tier in. Tier 9 and 10 together were the best when ratings was first introduced.

deep flume
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ya same tier 8 or ten only 4 rated is a no didnt play that cus i cant get the skins for all the tanks them seasons.

noble atlas
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Is it hard to get to 5k points in rating?

agile sphinx
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If you have time to spare and you can bear the playerbase then no

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Just keep playing and eventually you will get there unless you have like a 35% WR in rating

pine falcon
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Rating is my second favorite game mode after mad games.

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That is why I want to see it made batter

agile sphinx
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Ratings could be a great gamemode but WG seem to be showing extreme reluctance to do anything to improve it. The points system and rewards system needs an overhaul and then it should bring in more players so the MM can be fine tuned. I dont see why WG dont have anyone corresponding with the playerbase about this (its not like they cant afford it) or why WG have said they wont change ratings for a while. It seems fairly stupid to neglect the veteran part of your playerbase which is what ratings caters too.

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Ribble has sent 7 messages here, the last one in march confirming you need to play 50 battles to get rewards. Noone else from WG (afaik) has sent anything. There isnt really any point having this in chat with devs if we just get ignored 🤷

latent jolt
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why are there so many afks in ratin batles

lavish adder
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Because the queue is so long they forget they were playing the game.

latent jolt
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like geez just play teir 8 1 min que time every time

night crypt
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Wish my queue times were that short 😂

inland laurel
deep flume
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welcome to the club

inland laurel
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lol thnxs

ornate spoke
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Hurray👶

sonic sedge
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guess who won this? Ratings battle,totally unfair when it’s supposed to be! So block me for a day I don’t care,sort the ‘matching’ out!

agile sphinx
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Thats weird, I just see a fair 7v7 game. Is it some kind of illusion that only you can see through?

normal garnet
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Lol

bleak cliff
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I mean it’s his fault for playing tier 7, which is a grantee bottom tier and pretty much worthless when facing all the strong tier 8 tanks

agile sphinx
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But tier 7 and 8 ratings is a perfectly valid and sensible thing to have in the game /s

dire osprey
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I'm just unlucky
cant go futher 4800 in 5 days
and now im getting down to 4500 again

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this is not funny anymore
all the efforts i make to go up, just for losing all of it in just 1 hour

agile sphinx
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That moment that you cant gain points when the system is literally made so you always gain points 🤦

dire osprey
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this is the last season I'll play in Rating Battles

bleak cliff
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If you’re losing a lot of battles then just stop play. Chances are that you’ll just keep losing, so just stop for the day.

inland laurel
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nah keep playing take it from me

sage verge
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If you cant get higher maybe its where you should be

rotund sonnet
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Just think of new methods to play and try to change a bit, maybe then you'll go up

leaden niche
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Just stop playing. Do other things. When your brain relaxed. That mean you can play.

glossy raptor
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Better rewards = more players = shorter queue = perfect

minor salmon
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Can we get a month of rating battles with the old +2/-2 matchmaker? I just wanna see how it’s gonna be. Nobody gets hurt and the data would be interesting

fallen mortar
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more player = more idiots = insane frustration during calibration = but still not to many good player

next gull
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More players = reduced rating span = more enjoyable games

dull lynx
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@minor salmon maybe an event. Not ratings

agile sphinx
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@fallen mortar More players = more idiots but also more good players = same skill of teams but shorter queue times and the chance to renew the MM system so you get less idiots

fallen mortar
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The amount of idiots that will flood ranked is at least twice as big as the amount of good players since after what I noticed many people just quit during or after calibration just because they meet so many idiots in that time since they have no actual rating

zenith trellis
atomic falcon
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was it your opponent?

pine falcon
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@zenith trellis so he is a moron because he is better than you?

next gull
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It is funny how humour is lost in written communication.

lavish adder
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I bet that guy said the same thing when he saw you and your 3.4k rating. 😂

placid dawn
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I get any where from 900-2000 damage per battle and lose just about every battle, 50% of time top scorer. Started out at 2900 now down to 2100. Usually get trampled by nubs trying to get a kill and blocking or running over me, and then they get killed. Team mates will go out and have a shoot out with another tanks and completely expose their sides or rear and just stand there taking shots. They will split up at beginning of match never to come together again because they are blown to bits. I am not the greatest player by any means but losing all my ratings because of a bunch of nubs that don't have a clue is very frustrating. I don't blame the nubs for their poor performance ( Heck mine isn't that great, 30 day WR 55.80% Career 47.13%) but the number of 0-7, 0-6, 0-5, 0-4, battles is crazy. I don't have a clue how to fix this, any ideas.

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I am talking about ratings battles only.

zenith trellis
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@lavish adder no he just laughed his balls out because he won with a fair rating battle 😂

cursive geyser
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I am confused if a 47%er calling others nubs then who are the nubs?

next gull
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@placid dawn it depends on many factors. One is what is your 30wr for ? Tier 4 or tier 8 ? Let's assume it is tier 8. Then 2100 rating is quite low, indeed. The teams you have are unable to hold a position (provided they are trying to). The slightest imbalance, a shot bounced, a tank less... and you have a landslide effect : the imbalance can not be compensated for and amplifies rapidly.
If you think you are the best asset of your team, take a tier 8 mobile tank with some armour. It will be easier for you to help your team where you think it is important to. Go cautiously back to the basics of your role without expecting help from your team.

sonic sedge
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The screen shot I shared,the enemy had 3 strong armoured heavies including 2 premiums,so they also had more hit points to try & deplete, & on that map its going to be a win for the opposing team with that armour, almost every time! The teams were not evenly matched as is supposed to be the case with ratings battles!

pine falcon
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@sonic sedge bruh. The enemy had armor and HP you had DPM and penetration. What is your point.

sonic sedge
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DPM with a helsing that isn’t that fast & won’t pen either of those heavies from the front without being destroyed 1st..you try it!

agile sphinx
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You are complaining about pen when you chose to play a tier 7 with bad pen in ratings? Nice logic there... (Also you can easily pen the vk100 and the 112 frontally, and you can just about pen the lowe with AP, and definitely with prammo)

Armour does not always win on that map, I generally go to the desert, cap the base and then either hold taking shots between the train and the tracks ot flank and pick off the reds from the back.

Also if you are trying to 1v1 a tier 8 heavy frontally in a helsing them you are clearly doing something very wrong.
@sonic sedge

pine falcon
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Sure, helsing "isn't fast" with a top speed of 60km/h. Also if you fire APCR in Helsing the DPM only drops by 400 which really isn't a lot. Also look at what the person said above.

agile sphinx
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"The person", how flattering of you 🤣

sonic sedge
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top speed of 60kmh but not on sand..Also you expect a tier 7 to go head to head with a heavily armoured harder hitting tier 8? yeah brilliant logic

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and the gun isn’t all that accurate unless at close range

fallen mortar
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you decided to play rating with a t7 tank

pine falcon
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@sonic sedge terrain is split in two parts - soft terrain and hard terrain. Only soft terrain slows you down and soft terrain is only water. If you are on hard terrain like sand or dirt the speed is unaffected. So this shows you have no idea what you are talking about yet again.

cursive geyser
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Seriously u playing helsing and still complaining

sonic sedge
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I was complaining about the overall match up,NOT using the helsing 🙄

agile sphinx
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I thought you were complaining about not being able to pen or 1v1 a tier 8 heavy (even though you could)
Try getting a bit of consistency in your complaints and maybe people will take them seriously 🤷
@sonic sedge

sonic sedge
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err I never mentioned I was using the helsing, others did!

agile sphinx
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"DPM with a helsing that isn’t that fast & won’t pen either of those heavies from the front without being destroyed 1st..you try it!"

Then:
"top speed of 60kmh but not on sand..Also you expect a tier 7 to go head to head with a heavily armoured harder hitting tier 8? yeah brilliant logic"

Loving how you didnt mention the helsing at all there 🤦

ornate spoke
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Also no matter the ground your gonna reach your max speed this ain’t warthunder here 😂

pine falcon
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@ornate spoke unless he is in water. That is the only time

fallen mortar
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T95 always reaches top speed anywhere because you won't notice if you stop moving because it's T95

agile sphinx
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