They shuffle between tiers. Relax
#rating-battles
mortal needle
pallid arch
I sure hope so
sullen osprey
I see my IGN there.
tawdry jacinth
So a topic of great confusion for me regarding camos from this last rateing season. I went diamond league and had 50 battles at tier 10. But. According to WGing you require 50 battles in a certain vehicle, not simply 50 battles at the tier then your most played vehicle gets the camo. So sadly my STB-1 has to wait a couple more seasons
agile sphinx
@tawdry jacinth i thought it was 50 battles per tier and your most played tank as well. Did you calibrate with tier 10 because a clanmate said that those battles dont count...
tawdry jacinth
Nope. I’m quite confused
I simply spammed my STB-1 after I hit 5k until I had 50 battles at tier 10 and also until it was my most played tank
agile sphinx
That does just sound wrong...
Im just going to check exactly what the news said for rating battles last season
Yep that just contadicts what support said
velvet gate
After calibration Iam on 2,7k... It looks like random battles season only...
They change calibration system or I am just bad?
tawdry jacinth
@agile sphinx it doesn’t really contradict what they said but they need to change a couple words to clear it up
agile sphinx
"You need to have fought at least 50 battles in vehicles of that tier" means you need to have 50 battles per tier, not in your most played tank. Also thete is no way to track how many battles you have done in a specific tank, only your most played tank, and how many games per tier. They have contradicted themselves pretty darn well.
tawdry jacinth
You could interpret the line in both ways. It needs to say “ in a vehicle “ however to be accurate to what they mean
agile sphinx
Yeah but that way doesnt make sense with the ratings battle counter, because it is impossible to track when you have done 50 battles in a tank unless you have only played that tank
@limber cave @patent pier Could we get some confirmation on this please
abstract crypt
Yh I am too confused ,
some one explain if someone just had 50 battles in a tier and got Cammo for a tank which had most battles in that tier
fossil gazelle
sigh.. 3.5k rating, i lost 4 games won 6, well its better than last month, 3k and last last month 2.5k
flint gazelle
(depending on your rating)
50 battles played in one Tier X tank = 1 camo for that tank
50 Battles played in one Tier IX Tank = 1 camo for that tank
For the current season, just play 50 battles in the tank you want to get the camo for.
And so on. Hope this makes sense
fossil gazelle
50 ratings or 50 regulars?
flint gazelle
Ratings only
agile sphinx
Yeah that makes sense the thing that doesn't is that the news says you need 50 battles per tier, amd them the most played tank gets the camo which isnt what happened @flint gazelle
fossil gazelle
oh okay, thanks
flint gazelle
They meant for every tier you need to play 50 battles to get the camo for it.
So if you're diamond,
50 battles played in Tier 7 tank means you get a camo for that tank
50 battles played in a tier 8 tank means you get a camo for that tank and same for rest or am I reading this wrong?
agile sphinx
But if you play say 40 battles in WT and then 15 in E75 then you should get thr camo, but the ss from support says you dont
That was how I understood it
flint gazelle
It has to be one tank that has 50 battles in it
So if you only play 50 battles in WT you get the camo
If you do as you did that means your most played tank has 40 battles and you needed 10 more to get the camo for that tank
They don't add up
north path
what if you do 50 battles equally in two tier 10's?
agile sphinx
Doesnt seem to work with the battle counter in your profile where it only shows how many battles per tier, amd your most played tank, amd also I have been told on the server before its 50 battles per tier, and the most played tank gets the camo
flint gazelle
I never tested that out but Ill assume the system would just pick one tank?
That's how you get the camo, you can only get the camo once for every tier. So, if you want to get camo for WT right now all you have to do is get the platinum or diamond rating and make sure you played 50 battles in it
agile sphinx
Im sure ive been told all you needed for the camo was:
- 4k rating
- 50 battles that tier
- Most played tank that tier
icy torrent
so when you do these you will get the camo right away or you need to wait until the rating season finishes?
agile sphinx
Until the season finishes and them a few extra days for the prizes to be given out
zinc nebula
Only one tank per tier can get the camo
agile sphinx
But is it 50 battle in 1 tank to get the camo or 50 battles at that tier, and the most played tank gets the camo?
Because the news here contradicts what WG support says, and I believe the in game news said the same as the news here
short snow
update good
fossil moth
fix rank system pls https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/590613074721898496/598477559239540776/Screenshot_20190710-115205_World_of_Tanks.png
hoary isle
Good job
fleet fog
Oi Wargaming. Have like stat requirements for rating battles. It should be for more experienced players and that. Sometimes I go into battles with absolutely clueless player who can’t flipping do shite. For example..
fossil moth
@fossil gazelle so you think my rank is ok?
fossil gazelle
yeah, for the memes, and if you want you can use the avatar that you get for your first win, the gray one without stars for maximum giggle factor @fossil moth
fossil moth
@fossil gazelle nice i will practice this season hope after 1 or 2 seasons i make it to gold
fossil gazelle
@fossil moth good luck, but rank doesnt really determine how good you are since sometimes bad teams can influence your rank and winrate at the same time
ornate spoke
Hate the cdc
fossil moth
@short snow wow how for me i lost 7 of 10 first games
undone vortex
@short snow CDC uh why bully meh
ornate spoke
in what you said to put statistics so that a player can enter to clsifficscion has to comply with some requirements
warm nexus
Is he the highest on ratings leaderboard?
undone vortex
Is the leaderboard even working?
warm nexus
I dont think so
ornate spoke
When I checked it was showing the leaderboard from last season
crimson goblet
ocean night
I dont understand.... these are my last 4 battles
2 hours ago i was here
I hate these mastery.... it shows me How many dumbs in game
Look that 5 vs 2
I hate this rating tier 8
Useless... many dumbs play tanks that doesnt know to play....
Always a tank without damages.....
ornate spoke
I calibrated on ~3950 and after like 15 battles I'm still at the same spot 😑
Nice
No u
ocean night
I hate this kind of gestion
Organization*
I WANT more information about wg
How did they organize matchmaking
@warped ferry
languid cedar
low sandal
Why tier 8
Ratings is supposed to be for the elite people who actually have brains and not for people who can easily buy a premium tank from the store.
pallid arch
A season of tier 8. Guess it will be good to credit grind in...
low sandal
yes but not for winning games
molten granite
When there's only 12 in cue I would assume they take what they get.
fallen mortar
@shadow vigil you cant count 50 100 as a heavy xD
jagged dirge
Please can we stop the M6 spam
agile sphinx
Nah my ISU loves their sides
fossil ocean
I am not one to normally complain, but I agree that the new tier 8 only in ratings battles is a negative. Too many purchased tanks and lack of skill at tier 8.
leaden delta
Does anyone have a picture of the 54lwt with the 5kcamo?
Please @ me with the pic if you do
loud minnow
Tier 8 ratings in a nutshell
Prems vs more Prems
bright bear
@leaden delta
leaden delta
@bright bear thank you
wind moonBOT
Bebe#9838 was muted
ornate spoke
No the icon is there to show the most played tank
agile sphinx
@zinc nebula last battle of calibration
zinc nebula
okay thx
wooden thorn
Crab rave calibrate at 2800
hasty jetty
rip?
nocturne pivot
set battles
fallen mortar
Maybe you are just bad?
ornate spoke
;)
warm nexus
Has the ratings time extended?
Altho the timer for ratings shouldn't be available
But still i m able to play
nocturne pivot
60wr boi @fallen mortar
leaden cosmos
Congrts
fallen mortar
@nocturne pivot 68wr boi and wr doesnt tell anything unless i know your avg tier and dmg
fallen mortar
Mine is 2200 and 8 or something like that
nocturne pivot
1700avg ,3K battles and 3x X tier (avg tier 7.5 surely)
dire quiver
Tier 8 ratings is going to be the worst ratings season ever, may the most broken tanks win
Obviously this happens with all tiers available but there won’t be some tier 9 to counter it this time
pearl shale
It's a bit interesting. Many people were requesting rating battles be for one tier only to help alleviate que times and issues like that. Now it seems so many people are complaining about it being limited to 1 tier.
dire quiver
The fast que times are nice and all but I would prefer to not see 4 WZ-120 FT and 3 Obj 252u on each side
The WZ-120 is like a tier 8.5 anyway
wheat tartan
I think this is a public test that wargaming are conducting, seeing which t8s are being played the most and possibly trying to look into the various complaint that “T8 is filled with premiums”
dire quiver
I mean, there are more tier 8 premium tanks than actual tech tree tanks
wheat tartan
At least 10/14 tanks in ratings battles are premiums from what ive seen
dire quiver
I bet 4 of those 10 are WZ 120 lol
pallid arch
If each day switched what tier it was, then I would like it. Just tier 8? Really? If you are going to pick on to be "competitive" why would you not pick the highest tier?
calm bear
I swear lots of new comers that got T8 premiums are ruining ratings because they are inexperienced and cost the game
pallid arch
I love it when the team does not do exactly as a uni says, so he yolos at the start.
junior hearth
@pallid arch You mean they are so good it's pointless sticking around to see the outcome. This's understandable when they could be playing another game that's winnable.
jagged dirge
I hate it when I have to put in more effort to achieve the same result as a reasonably decent player driving a a 2019 50$ tank
junior hearth
@jagged dirge Are you letting the team down by driving a low dpm low armour tier tree tank?
jagged dirge
Uh why yes
Sadly that is called the is-5 which is hardly premium, and hardly a tank at this point
junior hearth
@jagged dirge ok for the challenge in regular battles but indeed a let down for the team in ratings
jagged dirge
Yeah I bring my team down because I don’t bring a WZ-120 FT
pallid arch
@junior hearth ah, so I should also yolo when I deem the match unwinnable?
fallen mortar
As long as this obly counts for unicums the super uni csn finish the job 😂
pallid arch
He was a solid 75er with a high average tier so...
junior hearth
@pallid arch the outcome is often pretty predictable when certain strategies are used. I can use my Jedi mind tricks to see that in the first few seconds
pallid arch
Cool, when there are 2 low hp enemy tanks that finish the match when the 75% wz120 purposely yolos and does 0 damage I guess that you could say he predicted the outcome. @junior hearth
junior hearth
@pallid arch So you really want to help nobs win?
pallid arch
I prefer my noobs win over the enemy noobs
junior hearth
Lol, I guess you're right
pallid arch
Considering it was an almost won 6v7 I call my noobs successful, while our superuni was complete trash
I just get really annoyed when players that could have easily carried their own weight willingly decide not to.
junior hearth
@pallid arch but bad strategy rarely wins and I sometimes find most of my team dead in the first minute or still in spawn and i can't be bothered fighting or wasting ammo on a 1 v 7 battle
granite yacht
darn atleast have t9s so we don't get wz-120 spams
wicked ice
Sooo gg rating
sonic sedge
Giving those M6 tanks out as a reward & then making ratings tier 8 only was a bad mistake,it’s ruined ratings battles now as you get so many noobs playing them that have less than 2k battles & don’t really have a clue about teamwork or looking at the enemy team first,why not make the tier 6 version (M4 I think) as the prize? Then we wouldn’t have the problem of tier 5 players playing ratings battles...It’s now getting ridiculous!
wicked ice
Yeah @sonic sedge ture, but my wz 120 pay to win 1g ft kill Them eassy ;)
low sandal
ratings should have a winrate requirement
wicked ice
55
low sandal
I see why people wouldnt like the idea but its annoying playing with and against bots
sonic sedge
I think it should have a minimum battles requirement to play ratings & at least two tier 10 tanks & not bought or won tier 10’s either!
low sandal
60% 5 tier x and 20k battles... extreme
fallen mortar
@low sandal have fun beeing pretty much alone in ratings then 😂
I mean i have everything except 20k battles
low sandal
The best tier is probably tier 9 as there aren't many premium tanks and most tanks are Balanced
next gull
Agreed, tier 9 would probably be the most enjoyable.
agile sphinx
Tier 10 would have worked well too but ofc WG wants more tier 8 prems
ornate spoke
I wish they would have done tier IX for ratings. Such a well balanced tier.
Not to thrilled about tier VIII
ornate spoke
Why can't we play tier 10s in ratings anymore?
Ratings was already cancer enough as it was, now we can only tier 8s where there are only IS spams, gj wargaming, amazing chanage
The most retarded change to a ruined game mode so far
frigid kernel
It's going to be a long update not having rating battles for my Tortoise and AMX 30 B. I like playing in ratings with vehicles that I'm grinding or that I want to keep off my record until I have a feel for the controls of the vehicle. This was a good idea to test, but I think if rating battles are to be restricted to one tier, it should be tier X.
agile sphinx
Tier 10 would make most sensr for 1 tier, but it would be better if they madr it just tier 9 and 10 in separate queues
frigid kernel
Would enough players actually play tier 9 to let it have it's own queue, seperate from tier 10?
agile sphinx
If WG actually gave out gpod rewards then they should, but a camo and a temporary avatar are not going to attract people for more than 1 month
fallen mortar
I think they have enough of our T8 is bad, it was an experiment and they said that. They will change it and i dont want better rewards because noobs are attracted by rewards more then actual pros that play for prestige not rewards imo
frigid kernel
Although, I'm pretty sure some if not most super-unicums don't like ratings because of the fairly low rewards and the long wait times. I'm pretty sure I've heard complaints like these from super-unicums, but don't take my word for it.
fallen mortar
No bot would like to play rating if there were not bonusses not like some good players that play for something bigger then rewards i guess but yeah rewards are always nice but they attract the wrong people too
weak lance
WG nice job, now ratings battles are all heavies and TDS only
pearl shale
I'd say instead of having a wr requirement. Exclude premiums from rating battles. Though people would probably just spam T49, and Is-3 all the time.
astral cedar
Hi when is just tire 8 rating battles ganna end?
nimble orbit
next gull
Atm, rating tanks are half M6exp and T34 and between 5 and 6 heavies per team. Ratings are just a continuation of last events.
It would not be possible for WG to ban premium/collectible tanks, then tier 9 is the best option.
Or better. Make it tier 8-9.
pearl shale
If it's tier 8/9 then there is almost no reason to play tier 8 since you'll always be bottom tier
pallid arch
And yet people still used tier 7 in ratings @pearl shale
pearl shale
I'm pretty sure they do that for the memes more or less.
fallen mortar
No they do it for the csmo
next gull
@Angry shhhh
tier 8/9
pine falcon
Ratings should be put back to only tier 9 and 10. Change my mind
agile sphinx
Tier 8 rating sucks. The game is basically decided by whichever team has the most prems.
paper jacinth
Tiers 8 and 10 have have competitive gameplay in tournaments. I would love to see ratings on just tier 9, if only some odd months.
low sandal
tier x has more premiums than tier IX so less pay to participate
limber phoenix
My nam in world of tanks TNT_LEO_22
low sandal
?
limber phoenix
Plan
low sandal
not the right place @limber phoenix
limber phoenix
Ok
pearl shale
Tier 9 only ratings would be fine.
agile sphinx
Tier 10 only ratings would be fine
Tier 7 only ratings would be better than tier 8 by a lot
Nice decision there WG
ornate spoke
Of all tiers, they pick the worst one
pearl shale
What if they made it so premiums and collectors aren't allowed in ratings?
agile sphinx
That would never happen, WG care much much much much much much much more about profit than the playerbase.
pallid arch
Tier 1 ratings.
agile sphinx
As long as there is an OP prem at tier 1 then why not 🤷
pallid arch
Lol. Redistribute the mark1
agile sphinx
Via crates ofc
fallen mortar
You can only participate if you have a keni otsu and you can only play the keni
They made it for fast MM not the balance 😂
pearl shale
Actually a battle where everyone has to use the same tank sounds fun more or less. 7v7 Splc only
agile sphinx
Now that sounds like the best game mode ever
Start a petition for "Tier 7 SPIC Tournament, The Best Of The Smallest"
pearl shale
Call it "pew pew little league"
All lowercase
agile sphinx
I would sign up...
fallen mortar
Is there a tank that cant pen itself frontal
pearl shale
If angled right there are a few that have trouble
ornate spoke
Not really @fallen mortar
Although maus has a useless gun with trash pen, but it can still pen itself
fallen mortar
@ornate spoke B1 without prammo? Idk but a full T95 setup might be fun
3min in nobody spotted yet. Did the battle already start?
ornate spoke
Idk much about tier 4 but I know b1 has really trash pen, so maybe 🤔
Anyways, this has nothing to do with rating battles
pearl shale
Kinda does given we were talking about rating battles where only one tank was allowed.
Rating battle with one tank that can't pen itself frontally isn't too far of a stretch on topic
ornate spoke
Well, rating battles where only one tank was allowed aren't really happening so seeing this, some people could actually think it's going to happen
Therefore, better to use #general-blitz-discussion for stuff like this
pearl shale
Fair enough
astral cedar
When is tire 8 is ganna finish dud??😭 😭
next gull
I do not think it would be fair to forbid some tanks. So the best is still to pick a tier where op premium are not too present.
Tier 9 then.
Or 8/9 😬
languid sparrow
I would just do 4 tiers for 4 weeks. It makes sense to have only 1 tier available at time to have the best MM, so why don't just split all the tiers to 4 weeks.
dire quiver
Tier 9 is probably the most balanced tier, there are some very good tanks but nothing too unbelievably broken
I may or may not also want tier 9 ratings so I can grind the Conway
warm nexus
What has happened to the time reset of ratings
Does it reset a bit later ? then the usual time of last season ?
restive dawn
Your rating says it all
low sandal
Oof
ornate spoke
@brazen kestrel read the pinned messages
brazen kestrel
@restive dawn for your information, this was after only playing 15 ratings battles since they reset. Your reply, as ignorant as it is, doesnt even a dress my question.
fallen mortar
Non calibrated means nothing to answer your question they could be a super unicum or a bot either way you wont know unless your know the player and you ranking is truly terrible usually one should calibrate around 3k.
hot hollow
lmao
pearl shale
Sit in a training room then with a description asking for 60% players only.
wanton whale
Hahaha I will have to soon
wind moonBOT
f1re5ar#4277 has been warned.
next gull
@brazen kestrel I reckon that the difference between calibrated and non - calibrated players is what is displayed. Non-calibrated players do have a rating, it is used to generate the teams but it is not displayed.
low sandal
@brazen kestrel in a mean way it kind of did answer your question
short snow
lost too much :))
warm nexus
Still not enough
short snow
:))
warm nexus
Unicums alredy bout to reach Diamond
dusk hearth
tier 8 rating? more like premium rating at this point.Its great for matchmaking but the amount of premiums is horrendous.
paper jacinth
what about ratings on tiers 8 and 10 one month, tiers 7 and 9 the next month? that way nobody is lower tier, players can use their fantasy/fake/premium tanks in 7 and 8 if they want, and there is always the 'competitive' or 'balanced' option of tiers 9 or 10.
paper jacinth
@next gull i also think thats the way they do it. While calibrating I see a correlation between my performance on a game, and the rating team averages im placed on the next games.
vapid crescent
I want only tier 9 rating because it’s the most balanced tier
wanton whale
Unicums calibrate in platinum, SUPER UNICUMS calibrate at diamond
low sandal
Even super unicums would struggle to calibrate above 3800
Due to so many bots existing, or people who think just because they have a tier 8 it's means they should play ratings
soft fractal
he just gave wargaming even more reason to ban him
pearl shale
While they do seem very toxic. We don't name and shame here. Please remove the screenshot
dire quiver
50 100 OP lol
wind moonBOT
Xiavalonice#6120 has been warned.
fathom rain
How do the camos work again?
knotty cobalt
play 50 games in a tank and you get the rating camo i think :3
fathom rain
Most played tank or a tank I've played 50 battles in
hoary garnet
Pretty sure it's most played tank in that tier, as long as you have 50+ battles in that tier and are over 4k rating
tawdry jacinth
It must have 50 battles and also be your most played tank
agile sphinx
@hoary garnet that is what i thought too but someone got a different reply from support. Thr news definitely implies that its 50 battkes per tier but therr is a ss somewhere of a message from support saying 50 battles per tank. I am still waiting for someone to confirm this. @limber cave @patent pier @wet ivy
agile sphinx
The news says differently 🤷 but still i dont get a response from anyone from WG...
wet ivy
low sandal
To get the camo you must play 50 games in ratings and the tank which you played the most battles in will receive the camo. You must also get above 4000 ratings. As this time it's only tier 8 you can only get one camo.
@tawdry jacinth not that confusing
agile sphinx
@low sandal but that contadicts what suppprt said. They said you need 50 battles in a tank, not just at that tier. The news feed supports you but support doesn't 🤷
low sandal
"you need 50 battles in vehicles of that tier"
Ratings has been out for ages I am surprised people still don't know how it works
agile sphinx
"the only vehicle you played more than 50 rating battles is the charioteer" implying you need 50 battles in your most played tank
low sandal
They mean you have played 50 battles at tier 8 and therefore as the charioteer is your most played tier 8 tank you will receive the camo on that tank
agile sphinx
But they didt say that 🤔
low sandal
But that is what they mean. They can't check what other tanks you have played as they only see the one which shows up on the ratings tab (in your profile) and they assume you played 50 battles in that tank which is a tier 8 tank.
fallen mortar
Its not the first time that happens
My clan mate once didn't receive anything even tho he had 2 or more tiers with 50 battles or more with 5k but that was 1 year ago or even longer
low sandal
He probably didn't play 50 battles at tier x
pine falcon
Not the right place for this
tawdry jacinth
So guys. I did have 50 battles played at tier X. That is why I sent the ticket and this was the response.
restive dawn
50 battles and 5k+ rating to earn the diamond camo
muted mortar
azure shard
I Lost 100 points by your fault and mm @muted mortar ... 4758 -> 4638
sage verge
#blame mm for no reason
agile sphinx
They are at different ratings. At higher ratings it is much harder to earn or lose points and at lower ratings it is much easier.
They get punished for doing 0 damage, it is based on xp so they will get punished more than someone who spots but gets 0 damage. The afk pkayers get punished enough if you report them as well...
ornate spoke
That does nothing as MH is useless
agile sphinx
Makes you feel more satisfied 🤷
fallen mortar
I've been afk too in games but i couldnt do anything about it fo4 example i was stuck in the loading screen for an entire game more then once or my laptop just crashed cuz of blitz or them game randomly closed I hate when things like that happen espacially when its not because of my hardware, srslybwhy is blitz loading for 4 mins when i have I7 8gb ram a good graphics card and really good net 50mbits is good as far as i remember
dusk hearth
honestly,using premium vehicles in rating should make you gain less points
fallen mortar
You cant apply that to every premium
junior hearth
(Just saying) I like ratings are just tier 8 now. At least I don't have to fight an unequal battle with a tier 9 tank, and show some skill.
low sandal
I guess you are one of the people driving an exp
junior hearth
@low sandal no I drive a Lowe, but I do own an EXP (and don't plan on using it for ratings)
agile sphinx
Tier 8 ratings is awful. You get every noob who bought a premium tank pretending to be good. The teams are all premium spam which is awful and there is no way to get away from it. I would prefer to wait 10 minutes for a good game instead of playing at the awful standard we have now. You also cant be top or bottom tier which makes rating battles even more fun. All ratings is now is people camping in prems they have just bought. I dont think any of the better players in ratings wanted this change and pretty much everyone wants ratings to be tier 9 and 10 only.
solid pond
Tier 8 is basically the worse tier in the game for a skilled-based MM game mode
fallen mortar
I liked ratings for all T personally I'd like the 4 weeks 4 T thing 1. Week T7 2nd week T8 3rd T9 4th T10, and the days 2 or 3 days left oprn for all T
fringe wharf
Why wg is not making realistic battles permanent.... Or they can make it available like rating battles for limited hours everyday
fringe wharf
@short snow it is fun if you know the right strategies for realistic battles
I find it better then normal battles
fallen mortar
Off topic i think and realistic had to be fixed you could just aim on mobile devices and your infinite view range will just show where the enemy goes even tho you couldn't see them
junior hearth
@agile sphinx I'm fine with having it all just one tier, doesn't need to be 8
agile sphinx
Tier 8 is the worst possible choice that WG could have made for the playerbase. WG knew that but they thought they could make a bit of profit and they happily went ahead with it because they don't care about us
agile sphinx
Tier 8 sucks* i think you mean for your first 3 words
unreal anchor
I got premium tanks and I still lose. I don't matter how good you play when u got crappy team mates
north path
Fighting The Lowe Is Easy
quartz aspen
undone pulsar
Why not go back to tier x only for ratings and make it tech tree only as well?
No wallet warriors allowed then
fallen mortar
Give them Wallet warrior MM so they only face wallet warriors
hot zephyr
Lol
next gull
I do not see why premium tanks would be excluded
Or collectible
Tier 9 would be the only way around in that respect.
elfin parcel
What do you think about Tier 8 only in Rating Battles? Yeah i also dont think Premium Tanks should be excluded, if you are not up to pay money for the game, how should the game stay alive?
next gull
+1
elfin parcel
I hate the new implemention of Tier 8 only. Before when youve just lost on any Tier you could change the Tier Class and maybe make a living there, but for now, atleast from what i see, EU is Flooded with Bots below 45% and less playing Tier 8 Rating Battles and you dont even have a chance to flee...i mean okay, you can play Standard Mode, but it aint better there and so i decided for myself to stay in Rating Battles for some time... But with Tier 8 only it is boring a f .... + im having 3k and more damage done and still a loosing streak of 10-15 Battles from Time to TIme.... i dont loose that much points, but i dont gain that much either....
97 Battles and 31+ Points from beginning of the 10 Rating Battles.... Win 3 Battles in a Row? Absolutly impossible...?
rancid forge
is there any extra reward for playing rating battles?
latent sleet
There is no way I can improve my rating, I am stuck in 4.6k rating points thanks to so many bots
Thx wargaming, Why Will You remove tier X from rating? Epic...
elfin parcel
@rancid forge you can, if you are good enough to get on the higher Leauges
median zenith
@rancid forge Yes you can get additional EXP and such from rating battles
astral cedar
Can some on tell me when is tire 8 rating ganna end ? Plz
next gull
Tired 8.
Could not say better.
pastel timber
Battles are so fast lol. Aggression is tested on few maps
fallen mortar
@astral cedar end of this month +/- a few days usually
pastel timber
How about tier3 ratings so we can really test low tier changes lol
agile sphinx
At tier 3 at least an op tank is freely accessible...
fallen mortar
Keni otsu isnt freely accessible 😂
agile sphinx
M5 stuart is
pastel timber
Dam it then no.. pick tier4 then
agile sphinx
Tier 4 is pretty balenced from what i can remember
ornate spoke
Tier IX or tier X please.
rancid forge
What is considered a respectable rating?
wooden thorn
2000
warm nexus
For Beginners obv.
rancid forge
Nice, thanks mates
pine falcon
@ornate spoke if it is tier 9 it will get overrun with Waffles. Tier 10 is the best
pallid arch
But waffles are very easy to counter
clear depot
Tier 8 rating battles was not a good idea, this tier is full of op premiums
untold dagger
And people who don't know how to drive em
clear depot
On my NA account I got a löwe from the huge container and I had less than 50 battles
cloud stag
The issue with rating battles is that most people don't play so you get the same monkeys that cause you to lose last battle
but at the same time u get some super unicums that actually want to play the game
that's a bad mix of players and one of the reasons I don't play rating personally
fossil moth
@cloud stag rating not rewarding so lot of good players dont play them for me i didnt even finish first 10 gmes i did only 7 and 6 of them i was testing ping
sage verge
Best use for rating👌
fallow breach
lol
dire quiver
The WZ-120 spam is real, whichever team has more of them will automatically win
tawdry jacinth
It’s kinda stupid
undone phoenix
@wheat tartan but if they don't release overpriced pixels, the wallet warriors won't keep the game f2p for the rest of us. You should welcome overpriced unnecessary premium tanks.
wheat tartan
@undone phoenix Its not really the “overpriced” nature of premium tanks just the balancing characteristics
undone phoenix
Still, if balance really was a major concern for them then they'd have introduced a performance based metric to MM... But it's not, so they won't.
wheat tartan
Look at the multiple premiums that are out there that i can congratulate wargaming for actually considering balancing ( tech tree premiums)
They sell just as well
undone phoenix
Fact is, while they're making whatever amount of profit they deem acceptable... The game ain't broke ;)
wheat tartan
At least dont bar these new premiums behind a pay wall, make them available in some sort of mission marathon
undone phoenix
Why? People will buy them
wheat tartan
?
undone phoenix
If people will buy them.. why go to the effort of making an event?
wheat tartan
You’re absolutely right yep well done congratulations
undone phoenix
For us.. it's a game. For them.. a business
wheat tartan
Look at the original post it was meant to be satirical
undone phoenix
Like a unicycle?
wheat tartan
We shouldn’t be ranting on this thread- but ok
undone phoenix
Do you have a good lasagne recipe?
wheat tartan
You know we can get muted for this
undone phoenix
Is it muting if you don't speak?
warm apex
non Je suis angles
fallen mortar
Rating chat pls move into general discussion for questions like that
If anyone from WG has to read all this i feel very bad for them 😳 😅
warm apex
ÖD
warm apex
well then......rating battle eh, it gud or it baed.
yay that msg got to stay because it didnt disagree with wg lel
ok lol i was joking xD
exotic palm
Rating battles are useless.
fallen mortar
Dont play them then 🤷
exotic palm
I don’t.
next gull
We could say the game is useless anyway
ornate spoke
^
fallen mortar
@exotic palm if you dont then you can't say anything about them 🤷
south marten
What is the best tier 10?
ornate spoke
T10 is very balanced so imo there's no tank which is better than every other
rancid forge
@ornate spoke Except the IS4?
pulsar cipher
👆🏻
fallen mortar
T-22 is the best med
ornate spoke
Maybe only that but there's like 200 of them
low sandal
Fv4202 is the best med
low sandal
@ornate spoke have you played the fv4202?
wooden thorn
@ornate spoke u 4head
teal sedge
121 best med
atomic patio
nah, 140 or Leo 1
ornate spoke
No, but i would stop at t9
versed ledge
Trying to find a post about rating battles 🤔
ornate spoke
I am stop at t8 (indian pz)
vestal monolith
T22 medium its op with reverse sidescraping
fallen mortar
Could we get back to rating and not some useless talking
latent sleet
Will you receive the diamond league camouflage in all the vehicles that you have played more than 50 battles or just one?
tawdry jacinth
One per tier if you achieve high enough rateing
For this season just one. The one that you have the most battles in @latent sleet
latent sleet
Thx
flat fulcrum
Today keep the AFK is out
ornate spoke
In rating battles i won more than in random battles.
HOW?
halcyon garden
Same here it’s weird
dire quiver
I liked having 7-10 available, I could grind my higher tier tanks quickly
I can still do tier 8s but really wanted to get the Conway done before it gets nerfed
pallid arch
The tier 8 is nice for grinding credits. That's about it.
tranquil lava
Yes
azure shard
You get 100 k crédits in tier 4-5 @ornate spoke ? Rating and premium account + premium véhicule + tier 8 = money maker
vapid crescent
I want next time only tier 9 ranking because it’s more balanced
@azure shard you forgot credit booster and Birthday
pine falcon
@vapid crescent tier 9 will be littered with WT's and T54s. It will get boring very quickly.
vapid crescent
Oof
fallen mortar
you could say that for pretty much everything T10 full of Is-4 T9 Wt and T54 30 1er T8 we all heard enough T7 Smasher Hellsing Drac
restive dawn
boohoo like 1 game makes it unbalanced
fallen mortar
boohoo im 60% xD
pearl shale
Um that censoring could use some work
dire quiver
Once I was in a battle with 3 platoons on each team, the enemy team had pramo, rgn, and a void platoon or something like that, and my team didn’t have one person over 60%
next gull
The difference is that : 1/ everyone has access to tier 9 provided he played enough games (which does not necessarily mean a lot), 2/ tier 9 is as it always was since no weird premiums have been introduced recently in that tier.
But yes, some tanks are probably better than others at tier 9 too.
agile sphinx
Some tanks are better at tier 9 but generally they need more skill to do well in. The premiums are nicely balanced, unique and arent that common. Ignoring tank balence ratings should just be for tier 10, maybe tier 9 but apparently WG cant see that...
iron zodiac
This new rating system is a joke
pearl shale
They probably went with tier 8 given tier 7 and 8 are probably the most popular and have the most premiums. One of the biggest complaints about past ratings battles were the que times due to lack of players. They wanted to see if restricting it to one tier improved que times. Atleast that's why I think they chose tier 8 over tier 9 or 10 to test things.
agile sphinx
The queues would have decreased a lot no matter which tier they picked. WG only chosr tier 8 because it is easy for someone to buy a tier 8 prem and get straight into rating battles. Good for WGs profits but completely and utterly useless for the playerbase who know that tier 8 sucks. Many players have not played rating this month because of WGs decision and it just goes to show that WG cares more about profit than if their game survives...
soft yacht
so basically wargaming is allowing rating only for tier 8 to test the matchmaking time for one season?
fallen mortar
Yes they are just testing if its faster maybe they'll change to 1T per week so we get T7, T8, T9, T10 that would be good imo
wheat tartan
Hopefully they do, it gets pretty boring when facing the same meta tanks in battle
fallow canopy
Why is it for t8 only now ?
remote stirrup
To change things up I guess. Honestly no idea 😅
mossy badger
thats not even that good...?
eternal gazelle
"ranked battle"
agile sphinx
You got outplayed pretty well 🤷
sage verge
Carry harder
fallen mortar
I dont think this channel is called MM complaints or Screenshots of games i couldnt carry
kindred oxide
Maybe not but I'd like to hear if the convergence of ratings inside teams has gotten better with the change of only t8 being available. Theres a diamond league player and a gold league player in the same team along with some guy who hasnt even gone through calibration.
fallen mortar
True but the avg ranking is quite high
sullen oak
When you get the gold league avatar but you haven't even bothered finishing calibration yet. 👌
static adder
When you do 4K or more in all of your calibration battles and lost half of them anyways
north path
Stonks
next gull
Ideally, if ratings were working the way they should, you should lose half your battles in this mode, whatever your level.
delicate lodge
.....in steady conditions once everyone has reached its normal rating
north path
Why is Platinum ranked after Gold if Gold has a higher value than Platinum?
shouldn't Gold League be placed before Diamond, and Platinum League before Gold?
mortal needle
A quick google search would have revealed that platinum is more valuable and a rarer metal than gold. @north path
north path
oh.... must've gotten confused with another element
glass kindle
@north path palladium?
@mortal needle platinum price per gram is half compared to gold, palladium price is equal to gold
ornate spoke
rating me pld
lilac tree
In which update did they we can do rating without the top moudles
ornate spoke
How can I make quick money
hollow night
@ornate spoke Skill + premium tank + premium account + boosters
hollow night
I am right now, but it's about to run out
tall estuary
??? Do you mean tanks that have autoloaders?
bold panther
@mortal needle it's not, actually
austere schooner
@ornate spoke those are automatic cannons, a certain amount of cannons have a really low reload time between a certain amount of shots, usually 3 shots from 0.5 to 2.5 seconds but once the clip runs out you would have to wait a decently long time before you can shoot again
frozen hull
Yeah u r right bro why only for tier 8 atleast make it 8 to 10 tier and each battle only same tier tanks will come!
pearl shale
They're testing single tier ratings. I suspect they'll change it when tbis season ends. Possibly tier 9 ratings will be next.
ivory minnow
Tier 9?
eager belfry
Nice thanks
topaz lily
When will rating battle come back for all 8 to x
ornate spoke
You can afford 35k gold but not a decent internet connection?
undone pulsar
So upgrade your tank @lilac tree
lilac tree
I am half way
lean hill
Ur problem XD
ivory minnow
Bruh the mod,not everyone could free exp their way out of a stock tenk
agile sphinx
If you dont have a tier 8 maxed you shouldn't be playing ratings 🤷
Arguably if you dont have a tier 10 you shouldnt be playing ratings either but hey...
low sandal
^^^
Arguably if you haven't played tournaments at a high level you shouldn't be playing ratings
lilac tree
I mean I don't do rating battles but I get a mission for it and I am not ready.
And I play tournaments at teir 6-8
agile sphinx
@ornate spoke wrong channel
ornate spoke
Sorry😬
ornate spoke
also, ever heard of screenshot?
hardy raven
wait why lights and mediums are not qualify for rating battles?
idk if this is a noob question
my t54 and LTtb are not qualified
hardy raven
o
iron zodiac
been like that the whole month
shadow hearth
WZ should not be allowed in ranked, someone with 30% win rate can get to diamond league with that thing
pallid arch
If you can't kill them, then ratings is not for you.
If they are 30% they are not getting to diamond no matter what.
fallen mortar
Are you one of those WZ players that argue that this thing isn't absolutely broken OP
pallid arch
Nah, I'm a person that slaughters the ones that think they are invincible
ornate spoke
How did you get the camos? And are they permanent?
brittle bramble
T95 🤢
ornate spoke
I like the at7 camo
restive dawn
Permanent camos from reaching the diamond league
royal jasper
@brittle bramble t95 op tank xD
dire quiver
Only here for 2 days as well
fallen mortar
The only thing dieing is the quality of the ratings chat
ornate spoke
Meh, tier 8 only ratings is just boring. I haven't even bothered to calibrate this season
brittle bramble
Same, not gonna do even rating missions. I cba to play tier8. And i recommend to put chat off when playing ratings, its full of people crying about everything.
chilly yarrow
@ornate spoke I see your point
chilly yarrow
Time to argue a point. I used to use rating battles, with GOOD teams as a break from the unpredictable and rather unskilled random battle teams. However, with this new influx of new, unskilled players buying a tier 8 premium and taking it into a rating battle(It seems WG is even trying to promote this by allowing tier 8s only), the teams in Rating are now not much better than the ones in Random. I suggest is that a tech tree tank of tier 7- 10 and 100 battles/ 50% WNR8 must be had, so people can't just fire off money on prem tanks or free xp.
fallen mortar
I have a general idea how to handle premium tanks for beginners make it like your clan supply you can only buy IS-5 if your personal thing is lvl 10 and your clan is lvl 10 why dont make a similar thing for prem tanks so they can buy T5 with lvl 5 and so on, so they have some experience before they buy T10 prem tanks
Maybe not as long as your personal supply since that took me quite long, longer then my first 2 T10 tech tree tanks but i think that could help ranked battles to get less flodded with poeple only buying a T8 tank and then screw other peoples matches
ornate spoke
This battle mode has become a grinding mode.
brisk frigate
;;;
wheat tartan
Loving the full premium spamm in ratings
shadow hearth
@pallid arch if you think WZ is not broke then rating is not for you
fossil moth
_ _
pallid arch
If you cannot kill broken tanks then ratings is not for you. @shadow hearth
shadow hearth
yeah try killing a 70% player in a WZ and then talk
and why the hell are you comparing a 7 vs 7 battle to a 1 vs 1 lol
@pallid arch what league are you
pallid arch
Currently platinum, but I have been in diamond the past few times
I could always spam the amx49 instead of the t26e4 to grind actual rating points instead of credits
shadow hearth
i'm playing the Lowe and M4A1
chilly yarrow
@fallen mortar Good idea... Il suggest it to WG
rough compass
Meh welcome to wotb
short snow
is it normal ?
ornate spoke
Yeah, seem pretty normal to me
pine falcon
Same to me. Nothing out of the ordinary except you being alone on the flank @short snow
undone pulsar
1548 ping is what they’re pointing out
ornate spoke
Hey
ornate spoke
Hewo
hazy pawn
Since ratings are only on t8, for me there is no reason to play them anymore. To me it was high level t10 games that were the most fun, but since introduction of rating missions game quality already dropped drastically, having all the new players in premium tanks against u now doesn’t make it better in any way. I would be fine with t9, but that was unplayable in last seasons as I was one of 1-2 lowtier tanks in 9 of 10 games.
ornate spoke
Should I get a kv1s or KV2
agile sphinx
We do not want any more KV2 drivers about so get the KV1S
ornate spoke
Ok thanks
ivory minnow
Lol
zenith trellis
Rating is becoming quite depressing
heavy pendant
Lol
nova ermine
The public teams are better than rating. Can they fix the dam system so that instead of matching with points, it matches with SKILL. PC ranked is so fun and better cause u fight and playing with people of ur skill, so it’s a challenge. Can WG please fix it so it’s based on Skill
night crypt
@nova ermine how are they going to do that?
nova ermine
Make it so idk u get matched through stats somehow
night crypt
What about people who inflated their stats or people who purposely have low career stats so they get matched with worse players? @nova ermine
nova ermine
That’s not my problem tbh, it should match with same skill players so it’s fun and actually different than Public
kindred oxide
They could start with adding a better incentive so more people would play so that the range of different rating scores inside a match wouldnt be so wide
spiral stirrup
...
kindred oxide
I agree that its pointless to complain about random mm in the standard mode but ratings has its own set of rules on players getting slotted in different calibers of teams. People clearly wont play ratings if the quality standard of a match is so low even in the two top leagues. A silver or noncalibrated player can still appear in a diamond game.
restive dawn
Less wins doesnt necessarily mean less equal teams
kindred oxide
Winning or losing is a bad indicator, the amount of time games last is much better.
strong sierra
If they did the thing where tier 10's play against each other think of the queue time for the battles.
undone pulsar
Why do we have to keep going through the same set of problems?
Ratings are supposed to be a more elite queue
The vast majority says no tier 8
The vast majority says tier 10
Then. Unbelievably. The vast majority votes for 7-10
That ruins the queue times. It’s why the games take forever to match up. Especially if you’re at 4K+
Keep ratings as a more hardcore mode. Make it only tier x. Only allow tech tree tanks. Make it something that actually takes skill to play and do well in rather than opening up a wallet and grabbing a plastic card
No premiums/collectors = no brand new players
Only tier x = fast queue times and hopefully more advanced/knowledgeable players
wooden panther
↑ I actually think it is fine to have different Tiers, but having them separated from each other. Maybe you can actually separate them even further and say that each tier gets it's own rating.
I totally agree with the Tech Tree Only-Arguement, though. I think that would throw out a lot of beginners and make it a more competitive playing field.
undone pulsar
Split tiers = split queues
Na can’t support this effectively
I would imagine Asia would have a similar problem @wooden panther
Queues would take way too long
wooden panther
Well, I can only talk about EU, and I think it'd work fine there
undone pulsar
Has to work for all servers though I’m guessing
wooden panther
I don't really have any experience values about NA and SEA, so I don't really know the queue times.
My General opinion, if you can make it work, go 7-10 and split it into their own rating values (maybe have a middle number somewhere, idk), but if you can't make it work, it should definately be T10 & without Premium Tanks.
undone pulsar
That’s what the current voting is
I don’t think it’ll work personally. Not well at least
kindred oxide
Would banning t10 premiums really have a big effect when such a big part of the playerbase fails their way to tier x multiple times on the same account? Only allowing tech tree tanks wouldnt even make the mode more balanced as theres more op tech tree tanks at tier x than there are op t10 prems.
To make ratings hardcore there needs to be a cap to the max amount of TDs in a battle and smaller convergence of players that is only possible like räik suggests, making it t10 exclusive. The quality of gameplay and incentive/rewards are the most important things for ratings.
silver mist
Last season I went to platinum, this time planned crystal.. And then WG decides to let ppl with stock tanks in the game.. Ppl just played it to grind their tanks without stats getting affected. Its was really a turn off and I didn't even calibrate.. It was horrible atmosphere.. Hardly anyone above 50% wr.
ornate spoke
We need T10 only ratings
undone pulsar
@kindred oxide I doubt it would make a big change but I think it’s a healthy idea. Again it stops inexperienced people who have no business playing tier x from being in ratings
Imagine someone with less than 100 battles in a Chieftain Mk 6 in ratings. They’d be completely lost
kindred oxide
Then why not just restrict it in a way that you cant play in your t10 permanently enriched if its the only t10 you own. There's plenty of people including me who have owned tier tens for ages but have also bought a permanently enriched one. Not to mention that you can still buy your way to tier x by converting free xp.
There's way more people who play just as badly at tier x even though they have thousands of battles under their belt. Some players are stubborn, some are inexperienced but they all result in the similar kind of incompetence and toxicity. But theres no working system to rule the stubborn ones out.
agile sphinx
Make ratings exclusive to those who have tier X personal access, similar to a battle count but it is easy to implement
mortal needle
Make rating battles 7-10 like before. But make it 5v5 to reduce wait times.
ornate spoke
5v5 is stupid
rough pecan
The issue with ratings battles is that the game is DEAD and any server accept for RU will take ages to queue battles. That’s how it’s always been and single tier ratings (albeit a nice concept) is a bad idea in practice.
undone pulsar
5v5 would work if you change the world borders to shrink the maps down
hot zephyr
lets be serious tier 9 is the best. There isn't really any OP prem except maybe the amx prot whic h is a maybe
ornate spoke
Prot isn't op lol
jade folio
It would take me hours to get into a match for Asia server if the ratings is isn't made exclusive for a single tier.
It should be made for either tier 9 or 10 only...the concept of this rating season was good but this tier is full of P2W tanks...wz120ft 252u wz112-2....i myself am guilty to spam them in ratings but why shouldn't I spam the when you can get to diamond easily with these while making credits
undone pulsar
@hot zephyr I agree but ratings should be about the pinnacle of blitz. That’s Tier x
hot zephyr
@hybrid prawn its OP as an e50m. Its borderline OP. It has great turret armor with leo pta mobility and m46 depression. Only downside is a mediocre gun
jade folio
Yeah proto is bit OP....not game breaking though
ornate spoke
🙄 🤦
next gull
Why would tiet 10 be better or more competitive (rating mode) ?
As soon as only 1 tier is available, all players are found in that tier.
Ok let's add some selectivity in amount of battles... but frankly if you are rushing tiers, tier 10 is not far from 8.
ornate spoke
It doesn't have nearly as many premium tanks as t8 so players with 100 battles and mom's credit cards will be rarer
next gull
I completely agree with the issue of premium tanks
celest summit
Most times i play with rating the rating on my team is almost everytime 200-350 or more lower then the enemy’s. (Sometimes i have luck my time has 100 more) But no matter how hard i carry i lose 5-7 times form the 10 battles. I stuck always at gold league even my avr dmg per battle is around 2600 dmg (no camp or farming dmg) now i rarely play ratings. Cuz my team letting the enemy win :/
restive dawn
Yas sure ofc
Also check the pinned messages
hot zephyr
I doubt you have 2600 unless it's the wz 120 and then there is usually an enemy AZ 120
next gull
On second thought, premium tanks might be the very reason why tier 8 was chosen : so that losing credits is no longer a reason for not playing ratings.
And a good inventive to buy a premium tank.
Everyone happy.
undone pulsar
Ratings has a higher credit coefficient than normal games
Like wayyyyy higher. So you shouldn’t need a premium
pallid arch
Extra earnings on my premiums.
still latch
I agree with raik. Tier 10 only with tier 10 premiums excluded. It makes the playing field more fair. Also sure people can buy their way to t10 through free xp but most newer players (from what ive seen) tend to buy their way in via prem tanks on sell.
next gull
Anyway, I do not see why WG would sell higly priced tanks, presumably balanced, and forbid their use. There is no reason to exclude premium tanks from ratings.
still latch
Have you even experienced the abomination of tier8 ratings? Mass spam of op prems. Imo the concept of rating battles is to showcase how skillful you are on a competitive level. Not by how much of an advantage you have over your opponents. Such advantage would be a premium tank. No one can deny WG makes some premium tanks stronger than most in tech tree lines. By potentially negating premium tanks at a competitive level it opens more of a fair playing field. And more so, shows more skill then relying on op vehicle mechanics to win.
next gull
Then make ratings tier 9
As a company I would never exclude my paying customers from the service I am offering (game environnement) to use the goods I am selling (premium tanks).
celest summit
Do then tier 9 faces tier 9 and tier 10 same case but premuim tanks arent allowed
still latch
Lol they exclude some premiums in realistic mode dude. They can literally restrict what tanks they want. Being a paying customer only gets so far. @next gull
next gull
Of course they can do whatever they want. Never said the opposite.
Not large enough player base I guess. Hence +/- 1500 rating in MM (where the balance problem is imo)
late mural
Nice to have a survey.
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Single-tier ratings is great. Just not the same tier for the whole season, it gets boring to play just the same few tanks. Change the tier DAILY, or at least weekly.
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Any tier is fine, but ONLY if all OP premium tanks are banned. I would personally prefer tier 9.
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If OP premium tanks are allowed in ratings, then only tiers 9 and 10 are playable.
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Credit earnings need to be at least 25% higher than in normal battles. If you want us to play more ratings, boost the incentives. Battles are harder, so we should also be earning more.
And remove the blatant lie of "30-60% credit boost", it's ridiculous.
- Rating season prizes are very poor. Those camos look nice, but how about some gold to top-1000 players?
agile sphinx
I think ratings would work well as tier 10 only, but you have to unlock personal access X to be able to play them. That way people can still play prems but you should get people who know how to play the game. I have no clue how many battle it takes to get to personal access X but u would guess around 5000? That is an alright starting point for limiting ratings to players who know what the game is about. Maybe on the larger servers having both tier 9 and 10 in separate queues would work but you need a starting point.
There also needs to be a lot more incentive to play ratings. A different camo each month would be nice as well as attachments, free prem time or exclusive offers in the shop for each league.
fallen mortar
@agile sphinx it takes around 3k i think if you toon with prem acc even faster and @late mural if you increase the rewards you get much much much more noobs there that just want those credits and yolo to farm them
undone pulsar
@still latch amen
heavy pendant
Did this rating season end?
loud minnow
why is the rating season over
it ended a day early?
I was very close to diamond too >:(
I thought I had an extra day to grind those last 50 points
ornate spoke
And that's why you don't leave your homework for the last day
It is
ornate spoke
@undone pulsar opinion ☝️
undone pulsar
@ornate spoke is that your in game name? Because if it’s not...
kindred oxide
What a joke. I own a wz and still only played no more than 20 games
loud minnow
Battles were available for about 4-5 hours on NA and are gone again
Some people's ratings were reset, while others' weren't
and I got my rewards this morning (platinum camo for my rhm [which I already had], and rating avatar), some haven't received their rewards yet?
wind moonBOT
mg425#0834 has been warned.
stone nimbus
Uau
copper mauve
rating exclusive for tier 8 bad
rating for everyone tier 7-10 good
also can we add a requirement for unlocking rating battles? like have a requirement of over 5k and over 1000 average dmg
pallid arch
I would kick that up to 1200 average damage at least.
frozen hull
Ya u r right. It should be avg dmg 1000+ so teams r balanced
next gull
Rating battles would be balanced if rating span was smaller
heavy pendant
Rating battles would be balanced if we didn’t have a bunch of players with top tier 4 tech tree playing with their premium tier 8s
next gull
If rating span was like +/- 500 in the MM, you would never see them.
Problem solved.
turbid mural
anyone know when ratings battles come back on ? And will we get something other than just tier 8 ? If they want to do just two how about Tier 8 and 10.
pallid arch
Let's all just ignore the matchmaking time if this happens
undone pulsar
@pallid arch the player base votes on something that they don’t completely understand, and then complains that wg never gets anything right
pearl shale
I don't know if that would actually slow them down or not. If it's directly tier to tier then mm isn't having to balance finding 3 tiers.
pallid arch
When the tiers were combined the mm was slow. You are thinning out the numbers even more, making it even slower
undone pulsar
It would drastically slow don’t the queue time on na and Asia because there are far fewer players to support it
pearl shale
It'd only have to find 14 tanks instead of the in the past (not current one tier a month) where it had to balance 5 tier 8 per team and 3 tier 7 while also having to match it by type
undone pulsar
Not to mention, ratings aren’t popular to begin with
@pearl shale you forget the actually rating number effects your queue time
Diamond on na with 4 tiers = one or two games an hour
I’ve seen queue times up to 6 hours
pearl shale
Would it be slower than all tiers available and tier 7 can be matched with tier 8?
undone pulsar
That is why 1 tier is better
No. The community just voted on each tier being a queue
pallid arch
... I have not had it that bad in the last few ratings seasons
undone pulsar
Like I said. People vote on things they don’t understand
pearl shale
That's what i was trying to get at. Wondering how much faster it would be compared to the old ratings battle (not the current one)
undone pulsar
Try being over 5000 and tell me it’s not that bad
pallid arch
I was and I maxed out at about 5 minutes in tier 10
undone pulsar
What server
pallid arch
Na
kindred oxide
You can comfort yourself with the fact that whatever the right decisions for fixing ratings are, wg wont go with them anyway because the bigger and sadly more unaware part of the playerbase didnt vote for them.
spiral stirrup
Could I ask when will the rewards for rating battles be released? (I play on asia server)
charred sonnet
seems next calification season is only tier x, i only play calification because normal games are bullshit of wr 40 and stock tanks, now i will stop playing for a month or so .... well done, wg, as always
frail elm
sonic sedge
Well at least tier X will stop all the newbies playing ratings that won their tier 8 M6 🤣 & don’t have much of a clue!
agile sphinx
Chances are WG will sell a tier 10 prem during rating season and then it will get spammed by people with 500 battles and 1 tier 5
wild flower
charred sonnet
Worst thing of this game are wr 40 players
Only way to see few wr 40 is play calification over 4000
To play calification only tier x is too expensive
I will stop playing for some time in many accounts
ornate spoke
Most common 40% wrs are is3s and is6s
tawdry jacinth
Music to my ears
wind quartz
@charred sonnet one problem. If there were no 40% win rate players, there would be a much lower chance of getting a 60% win rate
agile sphinx
@wind quartz that isnt really the problem, the issue would be the longer queues
elfin parcel
Why have the Developers been asking if they should Invent Rating Battles with Tier Classes from 7-10 with just the Permission that you'll only play vs. Tier's on the same Class like Tier 7 Vs. 7 , 8 vs 8 and so on... and now they throw in Tier 10 only....?!?!?! Thats like 1 Month no Ratings for me, because i dont own any Tier 10 Tanks im good at all in....
agile sphinx
If you dont have any tier 10 tanks you are good at maybe ratings is not for you 🤷 @elfin parcel
elfin parcel
Idk im playing 7-9 as it was before every month on like 4000-4300 Points.... So cant be that bad at all... But im not like the most WoTB Players that are going to play Tier X with 3000 battles feeling like Hulk because they have an Tier 10 Tank, but dont own any skills on it.... im going slowly and slowly higher from Tier to Tier to learn it
Sure, I can also play Tier X but i dont think im a helpful Player to my Teams at the moment, so dont even play it at the moment.... Which i think more players should do...
agile sphinx
Battle spamming to go up ratings ≠ being good
elfin parcel
Battle? Spamming? Whatever you say dude...
agile sphinx
Anyone can get up to 5k rating just by playing too many battles. Rating should be tier X only as it should have the best players. If you are not good at tier X then ratings is probably not for you
elfin parcel
@agile sphinx so you want to tell me, that this Mode will exclude all the Bots from Tier X Rankeds?
NEVER EVER, there will be the same Bots as before.... because alot of 40% Winrate players have farmed Tier X Tanks with Madgames and Realistic Mode....Or just died enough times to get one
agile sphinx
This game mode should exclude the worse players but there is no effective way to do that. Ratings should be for good players, and if you are not you should not be playing ratings 🤷 It is more an issue of educating the playerbase to realise that actually they shouldnt be playing ratings if they are not that good.
elfin parcel
@agile sphinx But how is this gonna educate them? In my point of view it doesnt help anyone... in my point of view, it does even make it worser, because most of em dont want to loose more Winrate so they will start pumping the Tier X Tanks they have, and with this youre gonna have even more "Weak Players" in Tier X
- no chance to switch to an other Tier Class where maybe better players are playing at the moment
Realistic Mode, were meant to be the same, ONLY FOR GOOD PLAYERS and ive just saw 75% Bots playing there, that didnt even get it they are OPEN on Map all the Time...
agile sphinx
Every good player agrees that ratings should be either for tier 9 and 10, or only for tier 10. It is a gamemode that is supposed to be more competitive without the worse players. Making it tier 10 only seems to have worked at persuading you that you are not good enough for rating as you have said you are going to stop playing. I am in no place to judge whether you are good enough, but by trying to emphasise that ratings is an elite gamemode hopefully the worse players will realise that they dont belong
Realistic mode was supposed to be a unique game mode, it was not supposed to be competitive in any way, thats why no stats were counted
elfin parcel
Then you should go and Read Up the News Artice for Realistic Mode, it was clearly said, it is for the better players who dont need Armor Showing Redstuff (Dunno the Name of it) Idk on what Server you are on... But on EU they definetly dont get that.... I see people with 23% Winrate and 10k Battles on the Account....
Playing Tier 8-10... Have fun then with Tier 10 Rating ONLY, it will be flooded with idiots... nothing else... But we'll see
agile sphinx
It never said anything about better players, it said "demonstrate your skills as a true tanker". There is no stats, no rewards and no points system in realistic battles which is what competitive game modes have.
pallid arch
I'm gonna enjoy this tier 10 only
next gull
Tier 10 = good player
What a joke
There are bad player at all battle count and at all tiers.
The only way to separate the skill levels is to reduce the span of ratings for the MM.
Rating ARE not for better players but to match players of same skill level in the same game. Period.
pallid arch
Tier 10 is a hell of a lot better than 8
pine falcon
@next gull you see it is harder to get a tier 10 premium than a tier 8 premium. Meaning that there will be a decreased influx of new or very bad players in Rating.
next gull
It is more expensive at least
But the point was about the supposed 'elite'. I maintain that ratings are aimed at matching players of same skill. This is where the competition lies.
charred sonnet
once you get 4000 points you see less wr 40 players imo the tier its not important for me, but i will not waste money playing tier x
And as i only play this mode in all my accounts i will stop playing for some time.
Games with wr 40 players are awful, no fun for me after 4 years of game
NO FUN with noobs
And game is designed for noobs
fallen mortar
You dont waste money on T10 if you play good enough
haughty onyx
Ratings should be Tier X only
spiral stirrup
Has rating battle rewards been released yet?
pallid arch
There is a nice credit boost in ratings, and if you are a competent tier 10 player, you should be making credits
still latch
Yeet t10 ratings, and he's right^ being in a certain ranking gives a considerable credit boost.
finite jay
Tier 10 ratings? I smell Cheiftain Mk6 spam. ._.
ornate spoke
There are premiums at every tier, so what's your point? At least it's not as bad as t8
finite jay
I hate playing against the Mk6. Thats my point. 😛 And I want one.
ornate spoke
there id same amount of noobs in each tier, only way of avoid noobs crowds is get calification lével 4000
in fact calification mode only gets stable after 15 days
when many players reach gis level
latent estuary
Looks like the ratings camo is going away in September?
stable hound
When will we receive our ranking reward of July?
jade folio
There are many tech tree tanks far better than Mk6
The tank that I hate most in ratings is a Maus ...driven by a good player....
icy mica
wg try to make a better rewards the rwards we have right now are not worth the grind at all look at wot pc ranking battles.
brittle bramble
There is no point in rating games if good players are not playing it. Ratings should be the go to gamemode for good players.
icy mica
yeah the problem is the rwards in wot pc they give some time unique premium tank for top high legue players
why grinding and wasting my time for avatar + camo and some golds if i try harder
fallen mortar
I do it for the credits
ornate wraith
No 4k camo..
icy mica
ranking are for competitive gamplay and unique rewards for high legue players not for grinding credits ther is random battle for that or the other fun mode
cosmic copper
How come some players are already playing tier ten ratings battles but i have to wait for 1 day 16 hours before i get to play? Is this fair
pliant minnow
- WG , please try a ratings-only event. The fundamental problem of Ratings is that players are not playing it, thus increasing the spread within the teams way too large.
- It will also take 50 games, if not 100+ for the ratings to settle. The 20 games calibration is quite a lottery with MM. Could there be some alternatives for "hard calibration" after inactivity? How about calibration with the old rating, but not showing the rating in the profile?
- Also, Rating requires far more careful tank balancing, and tier X is the best balanced tier. Tier VIII has couple of pretty OP tanks (IS-3D).
- Please do not close the Rating battles so early. I understand there are less people at nights, but you are closing
the Rating battles way too early for us night-owls 🦉.
Anyways, 👍🏻 you are still trying to tinker around the rating battles.
weak lance
Is3D and Exp are OP?🤔
low current
Suprised the wz-120 wasent one of his examples lol
ornate spoke
Is3d not op at all
frozen hull
Rating battle should be t7-10 bcoz I only have a is7 all my other tanks r t7 to t9....maybe I should just wait for my 2nd t10 obj140
ornate spoke
If you only have one tier 10 tank you should not be playing rating battles anyways
pine falcon
@pliant minnow as a person who has IS3Def and is the only and I mean ONLY thing I play in rating I can say that it is not OP at least in the current meta.
frozen hull
Ya tier 8 is the most fun with prems
fallen mortar
WZ just shoots as fast as IS-3 D reloads inbetween it shells xd
pine falcon
The good thing about the IS3Def is that 1st) it is a russian heavy
2nd) it can oneclip most of tier 8 TDs
Other than that the tank is just your average tank.
next gull
From september on, no more camo for 4k rating. #game-news
pastel timber
Boia get ready to face hordes of is4's and yoloing 236's with 268's snapping you around every corner.
Tier10 ratings will overall be challenging gameplay so +1 for that.
I got my 62a ready with cheiftain as back up
pliant minnow
Stats don’t lie. @pine falcon
frozen hull
Ya
weak lance
@pliant minnow looks like you don't know how to read stats... So for you the only parameter is wr?
stark chasm
:( i can't play rating, I haven't got tier10
agile sphinx
Excellent, the playerbase is getting thinned down to those more likely to be worthy of actually playinh ratings...
formal token
wtf, real, experienced players?
pseudo smelt
we're saved
sonic ridge
I mean there'l still be the people that bought the amx30b and whatever with <1000 battles
next gull
Ofc, tier 10 sees only 60+ wr players and they are all waiting to play ratings.
formal token
correct
pseudo smelt
quite so
next gull
Separating experienced (hence competent wink wink) players from noobs is exactly what 5.5 was aiming at. We see how good are the teams now.
ornate spoke
Hi
torpid walrus
unepic
dull lynx
Tier 8 rating: 2 or 4 WZ-120 1G FT per battle;
Tier 9: 2 or 4 WT auf PZ 4 per battle.
Tier 10: do your bets
dire quiver
IS-4
wild cedar
IS-4
pallid arch
I'm gonna be spamming t110e4
ornate spoke
T22 medium
dire quiver
Not enough people have that thing
pastel timber
Is4 too good rn. Heavies generally will be the main meta. Someone wants to share most tanks used by top rated players on their servers? Pls
LOL who forgot 215b + special consumables
ornate spoke
Everyone
pallid arch
Nah, just rebought 215b yesterday for that reason
bold panther
140
I need a camo on that thing
heavy sierra
you all cry too much in this discussion... "this and that tanks is too op", "i only want to have tier X", "i dont want bad players in ratings"... meh meh meh... and even there are only good players in your team with perfect mm and all go with their tier X favourite vehicle, you will cry bout sth else.. i dont get it why this community is so salty, toxic, jealous and never ever happy what they get.. you guys should deal with "bad" players and "op" tanks in game even in ratings, its a free to play game, never forget it, and its a game for people up to 12 y o... if you are good in this game you can carry your team to win 😉
btw i dont see any difference in skill between tier VII, VIII IX and X, just rushing to tier X doesnt make a player more skillful or much better at all
timber coyote
@heavy sierra I’m getting tired of people saying just carry your team it never works for me it’s getting annoying and theirs no skill difference u must be getting the better end of the stick
pastel timber
@heavy sierra ur included in community Bru. Good level of complaints is a good thing. Shows ppl are still hungry for more. As we all know about the imbalances we still play and have good time 40%of the time.
With time you will soon understand skill differences. Aka effort required of you to carry for a win at a given tier
agile sphinx
@heavy sierra if you have a tier X then you have to have spent a reasonable amount of time on the game. This means you are much more likely to actually be able to play well. Often there is not much of a skill change, but at tier 10 you eliminate a decent amount noobs from tier 9. You still get the people who physically can't learn, but they have had plenty of chances to learn.
upper zenith
You still get people who brainlessly grind through tier 10, play a match of tier 10 and see how many of your team and the enemy team have people above 50%
Not many
agile sphinx
At tier 10 you get much fewer of those people
upper zenith
You'd be surprised
agile sphinx
You get much fewer of those people compared to othet tiers
upper zenith
Fewer yes, but nonethless the teams are still unbearable at t10
agile sphinx
They are not unbearable they just need some... "encouragement"
upper zenith
A lot of the player just seem to have a salty mindset and want nothing to do with improvement and teamwork
pine falcon
@pliant minnow the IS3D is on top because it is one of the more rare tier 8s that is mostly played by good players (50+wr). Therefore the tank stands above other tier 8 heavies because there aren't any noobs to keep the tank down.
charred sonnet
The problem of this game has been, is, and will be wr 40 players.
Wr 40 players do games awful, maybe you get more aces in wr 40 games, but for me are boring. There are are many veteran players that have left game tired of this ...
When you play games of wr 60 players game is really good, you usually see skill, team game, estrategy, brain, fun.
Tier don’t matters, only skill.
People has been crying about mm from 2014.
Its a problem that wg cant solve, maybe not enough good players, and that wg DONT WANT to solve as you can see in rating battles.
still latch
You fail to understand the majority of the playerbase is around 48%. In the end 60%ers and ultra trolls (like those who have 20%wr) are on the far side of the playerbase. So if good players leave the game, it doesn't impact as much. Those "40% players" are the backbone of the playerbase. fixing match making is nearly impossible on servers with low populations. Also, we all encounter the same matchmaking, if you have with a low winrate or whatnot, it's your skill that's the issue. And look, tier does matter. Have you not seen ultra seal clubbers with dracs, helsings or dw2s or broken tanks? They can have 60% wr but be completely useless at tier 10, because they only know how to club, no how to play skillfully 😂 😂
next gull
Finally, some understand what the playerbase actually is and why "rating is for elite only and tier 10 is the way" is not the solution.
still latch
I support tier 10 rating because it's the epitome of blitz, mostly even tanks, and tbh, rating battles should be for those who know how to play the game and what to showcase skill. Sure there will be people who are lower on skill playing in ratings, but hey they grinded the t10 tank they're playing so oh well. My issue is mostly lower skilled players paying their way into t10
next gull
The only way to match players of same skill is to reduce the rating span in the games. The tier does not matter.
Having only 1 tier allows broadening the number of players available.
still latch
Having 1 tier reduces the wait time and puts everyone on equal ground. Idk what server you are on, but on NA and Asia, wait times were horrendous with 4 separate tiers. We don't have the number of players like EU or Russian servers. 1 tier is and should only be needed for ratings. Ic the argument "tier doesn't matter" as rather eh.
next gull
I should have put my sentences the other way round
1 tier only gives a larger playerbase, hence allowing for a reduced rating span in one game.
This is not what happened, it looks like it is still +/-1500.
Asking for an "elite" gamemode (60+ wr) is asking WG to design a mode for less than 2% of the playerbase. Good luck with that.
cosmic copper
Why is rating battles available to some players now but others have to wait ie me
I still have 21 hours to wait when other players have been playing ?
I cant wait to hear the answer as it seems a little unfair
agile sphinx
The people playing are on different servers @cosmic copper
alpine sand
@heavy sierra agreee 100% with you
ornate spoke
@cosmic copper because time zones.
pliant minnow
@weak lance I think the misunderstanding is on your side. Can you tell me what other parameter than relative WR matters? Is FV183 over- or underpowered ?
@pine falcon No. Please first read what does the Relative WR graph mean. It doesn’t seem you understand it. Players of all skill-levels do better with IS3D vs other tier VIII tanks.
pliant minnow
@next gull Tier X is the best balanced tier too.
undone pulsar
It’s definitely not
next gull
I don't know really.
But I think this is not the point.
stark chasm
Please make rating in tier8 and tier10 on eu server
And 7 ,9 next month
There is enough player for 2 tier
weak lance
@pliant minnow go to the school and learn math I'm not your teacher
pine falcon
I have an interest proposition for rating cammos. As we know this will be the last time we will be able to obtain the platinum league cammo next month the only cammo we can get from rating is "Rating Ace" (Diamond league cammo). I suggest that if you have the Diamond league cammo mounted on a tank in battle it changes the name of the tank (like Legendary cammos) But note that even on different tanks the same word will be added example "Foch 155 Fierce"/"E50M Fierce"/ "FV4005 Fierce"
river portal
That sounds great and would give more incentive to play ratings/be a high rank .
pliant minnow
@weak lance Nice. Starting insults right away. Some manners pls. I have my M.Sc. in Applied Math so I can manage the basics. http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/45464-blitz-stats-analysis-best-tanks-aka-delta-wr-analysis-updated-page-6/
@next gull The vehicle balance does matter since it gives players more options. If the tank balance is poor it limits options for competitive players.
weak lance
@pliant minnow insults? Which one? Where? Are you bad in language too? Don't tag me.
next gull
@pliant minnow I completely agree.
My point is about the "better" players complaining that they have "poor" players in their teams and that playing tier 10 in itself will remove those bad players.
pliant minnow
Yeah. Absolutely right. Just casual observation of tier X games proves your point. The “flanking E100” has been a meme since 2014
lavish adder
Bad in language. 😂
pliant minnow
Sorry, not a native speaker, but reading the chat it seems spelling and grammar are lost for the native speakers too
lavish adder
Your grammar is fine, don't mind him. I just found it funny because of that comment. Seemed ironic.
pliant minnow
😁
whole niche
Best idea... only Tier X in rating battles...
next gull
Precisely 123Rex
pallid arch
Fastest ratings matchmaking iv had overall. Didn't go over 15 seconds once
elfin parcel
Maybe Tier X is the best balanced Tier, but now exactly that happend what i was writing here last week... I played the 10 Calibration Battles just to checkout my Teammates overall in my Team and Enemy Team more than 60% of the Teams were below 45% and most of em even below 800 Average Damage, and those Guys shall make ratings more atractive now?... Ok. + Its SUPER Toxic, idk how often i saw people wishing eachother cancer in those 10 Battles... Ill better stay with the big brother with decent graphics for some time ....
restive dawn
Boohoo
untold pasture
I was wondering if there's a penalty if the teammate goes and just dies in rating battles on purpose?
I mean while getting the ratings, I got two guys in two matches that went and died on purpose.....
pliant minnow
@elfin parcel Yep, those are the "joy's" of Rating Battles. 10 battles is a super-short for calibration, especially if the calibration does not consider any other information available (random battle WR, battle count, average damage) for the calibration team creation. One can get an absolute trash-team streak and then one has to fight his Rating from the bottom. It will eventually settle, but it will take far more than 10 battles for the rating to settle. Another thing is that extra level of toxicity. In Ratings, every single 45% WR noob thinks he is a Super Unicums and keeps giving the teams "instructions". Ironically those instruction often are to the direction of his tank is at the spawn... 🤦🏻
untold pasture
It's not about those guys atleast, atleast they will fight.....
There are a few guys who just Yolo on purpose I faced two guys like this in two different games during my calibration. I got 3.5k last Rating season, this season I got 2.7k due to those two matches lost.... @pliant minnow
fallen mortar
he didnt fight he was camping and couldnt hit a single useful hit
steep shell
rating battles and mm works very bad, 2500 and 4000 points players plays same game, wg destroyed this game, fck
ornate spoke
Don't name and shame
fallen mortar
there was no name 😅
ornate spoke
I saw a name ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallen mortar
i just checked there was no name 😅
next gull
I don't understand why the rating span was not divided by two when the tanks' tier was reduced to one.
warm nexus
Its enjoyable for those who has many tier X tanks, but have WG thought about those interested players who want to play ratings but they just can't because they have not reached tier X yet
pallid arch
Get more experience? @warm nexus
kindred oxide
I dont think ratings should be a mode for people who havent even reached tier x yet.
pliant minnow
The core issue is lack of players actively playing ratings, thus the rating-MM is poor (large rating-spread). I have proposed WG to do a Rating-only event to boost the player numbers. Such an event could demonstrate are the Ratings ever going to be popular enough to sustain meaningful rating-spread. Also, WG should reverse their MM tank-matching rules. Those make it ever harder for the Rating MM to find suitable teams, thus increasing waiting time and increasing the spread.
kindred oxide
If they reversed class matching rules we would have teams of 7 TDs instead of the 3 you see in almost every game.
pallid arch
Yesterday (NA server) I had the fastest rating match making I have ever had.
ornate spoke
For me it took 1,000 maybe less to get the fv4005 in 3 days
next gull
With the event as designed and ratings at tier X, I am not sure we will see the expected wildlife in ratings...
pliant minnow
@kindred oxide even relaxing the rules would help. Just limit max TDs to 4 and stop controlling the other classes. +/-1 tank class matching just creates monotonous boring battles
kindred oxide
TDs are the one main thing that creates monotonous battles. Its the most popular class in tier x and having 8 TDs in a match could easily either mean a 2min game or a stalemate. If some class will be allowed in games in bigger numbers, it definitely shouldnt also be TDs.
wind moonBOT
__TX__#6853 has been warned.
fallen mortar
Its great that most players i meet in ratings have 50% overall but if look at them on detail they all only have 45% on thier T10 tanks and thats quite annoying
hot zephyr
thats quite common. A general drop off to lower winrate happens at tier X
pliant minnow
Rhansu, while TDs are popular, the boredom stems from the class matching making every battle the same. Playing light tanks? Great, there is always a red LT with whom to fight for the same flanking space. If the 8-TDs really becomes a problem, then let’s lower the limit to 3.
pearl shale
Don't they already have a three cap? With exceptions being if there aren't enough players
silent solar
If you want more players playing ratings battles try being nicer (or get W.G. to turn off chat after death). Ratings battles are regarded by many as the home of arrogant attitudes and insults (Asia server at least). Almost every battle it seems there is a "wannabe General" (who has usually died early) giving out orders and insults. Everybody knows "nub" is intended to be insulting and that one crops up pretty much every battle....
fallen mortar
If you feel insulted by noob 😂 i for myself just laugh or get salty either way i dont care too much about it
steep shell
if someone has more than 60% wr at the moment it's no pleasure to play wot blitz
mm and rating battles works very bad
wind moonBOT
__TX__#6853 has been warned.
eager belfry
Lol
quick light
yes
kindred oxide
@pliant minnow I get what youre saying but no matter how many meds and heavies you allow into a battle TDs will still appear in big numbers because they are popular and the opposite will happen with lights because theres only 1 light tank at tier 10. Theres been 3 new TDs added to tier x in the past half a year. Wg also knows theyre popular. I doubt there would be much more meds playing since i theyre very often outnumbered by heavies in the current meta.
charred sonnet
if someone has more than 60% wr at the moment it's no pleasure to play wot blitz
warm nexus
Demn tier X ratings is hard to survive...
Filled up with unicums only
Can't even get a minute to stay on a cozy spot to camp.... Tankers just moved around the whole map Most likely with 30Bs
agile sphinx
@warm nexus excellent, campers should not be in ratings
fallen mortar
crying about good player where did we end up here
agile sphinx
If you only have 1 tier X then ratings is likely to be out of your league
warm nexus
Still i calibrated to 3347
Nothing can stop me from ratings
And mainly Grille's my first and forever tier X tank i m gonna play with
fallen mortar
wow my cali. this season was bad and i got 3,950
heady olive
I can't do anything with this rating
thorny mesa
Why 50 batlle
pliant minnow
What do you mean ?
left timber
Only problem I have with rating, is now that it’s tier specific, you can’t grind XP out in tiers 7-9 tanks until it specifically at that tier
zenith trellis
I just love the rating games in which a Leopard throws himself before the heavies and cries out for help 😂
inland laurel
ratting shouldent be at teir 10 it should be in my eyes teir 5-10
warm nexus
Out of your mind ? Thats supremacy system
inland laurel
oh yea forgot about that
fallen mortar
What kind of drugs do you use, 5-10 do yoi want to wait ages for a battle and give sealclubbers a 5k ranking nope never
inland laurel
its just a thoght i guess but it should be teri 7-10 because i still dont have teir 10 and before u ask i am a super unicum according to blitz stars
warm nexus
Wauu haaaaa haaaa then how come u didnt became the 1st in CTS ? huhhh
inland laurel
what?
warm nexus
Ehh its u Royaltiger the R1RY one
I thought u were other guy
inland laurel
um ok?
fallen mortar
@inland laurel let me guess below 5k battles? Pretty much everyone is a super unicum below 5k
warm nexus
Yes eben who calibrate at 2800 are 70% Wr
zenith trellis
The only thing that makes rating bearable now is that despite the worst matchmaking ever, you get to do damage for the event.
frozen hull
Plz want the is3's 11second reload gun in rating. The one bfore tip gun(sorey dont remember name of gun) bcoz top gun is horrible
Rating battle should be 8-10tier
pine falcon
I have a feeling you want it to be 8-10 because the highest tier you have atm is tier 8
agile sphinx
Rating should be tier 10 only, or maybe tier 9 and 10 on large servers. It is supposed to be the better players, and people that do well move up. Instead it is normally premium spammers that move up. This is not good, but now it is muh better
wind moonBOT
pc_turn_off#6501 has been warned.
ornate spoke
Oh ok sorry
molten whale
Lol what a flex, i am super unicum on blitzstars
Inb4 avg tier below 8
dull sinew
Something really needs to change. I received the challenge “win 3 rating battles” it’s the last one I need and I’ve finished it many times before so I figured it would be easy. Then I found out that to even play rating battles you have to have a fully trained tier 10. After 5 years of playing I just got my first t10 (luckily) but it doesn’t have a fully trained crew. I came to the realization that many people must be getting this mission who are completely unable to finish it
zenith trellis
So my rating is 3225, why then is this guy in my battle? He dominates the whole game
agile sphinx
@dull sinew what needs to change? If you cant do ratings then you aren't going to be able to do the last mission so tough luck
dull sinew
Well, I think it’s nice that the calibration battles are only t10. It limits the people who can play to those who are generally more skilled. But you shouldn’t get the mission unless you can do rating battles
agile sphinx
The missions are completely random. If you cant complete them then tough luck. The last crate isnt worth it anyway
fallen mortar
People in general want that mission to be removed
radiant island
Rating battles in T10 only is the baddest idea WG ever had... only 6500 tankers play this crap. the mix from Campers/yolos made me sick
ornate spoke
Ratings is the cream of the crop. It should be tier X.
next gull
True, this is amazing now that ratings are tier 10, only good players (ironical, in case this is not visible)
wild cedar
@ornate spoke Then why are you playing it?
cerulean dagger
@zenith trellisahaha , Is that guy called UN1QUM by any chance ?
zenith trellis
@cerulean dagger could be, i encounter them all the time
Here one or two games later, another one, mm is real fair in ratings 😂
heavy sierra
in my opinion we need single tier format ratings with different rewards on each tier and league.
one advice: in calibration you declare your tier for this one rating month, next month you can change tier, but you are only allowed to play in your chosen tier. we dont need bronze league, just silver gold platin diamond, who dont get enough points in calibration to reach minimum silver league cant participate on ratings for this split.
just a small idea but maybe a better way instead of cancelling most of this game mode 😜
dire quiver
I feel like you have to try to get under 3,000 rating
I did a meme once where I tried to get the lowest rating possible and got just under 2k
heavy sierra
not fair for team, but its a bit funny
dire quiver
The funny thing is that I didn’t get a single angry message or report
hot zephyr
hot take: A loss no matter how heroic should always cost you rating points
heavy sierra
thx captain obvious 😉
hot zephyr
but thats not what happens. If you do 5k dmg on a loss you can still gain rating points
heavy sierra
ah, ok. but imo its fair enough, you did great and tried to carry hard, so why not getting some points for this heroic show?!
you also get only few points by winning but getting not much exp though
hot zephyr
because rating battles points should stagnate. As it is currently it just forever inflates. you should probably stagnate at a certain point
dire quiver
When you gain stuff on a loss it’s only like 10 at the max
hot zephyr
again its still a gain, you should be forced to stagnate after a while rather than causing a continious rise
heavy sierra
not stagnate, but as higher your rating points the less you get even for a win with much exp dealt.. stagnating means you dont get or lose any points in highest league... or am i wrong?
heavy pendant
Anyone else struggling with rating?
Played 61 battles and my rating moved 5 points from the original
keen urchin
just 5 points.... your lucky
heavy pendant
In 61 battles?
keen urchin
ratings battle started yesterday.... I started out at 2763 i'm now down to 2602 after about 25 battles
so you must be a good player not to have lost that many points and had good teams
restive dawn
It's about you rather than about your team
zenith trellis
Same here, not making any progress, so yeah i guess its not about the team 😂
agile sphinx
@heavy sierra if rating points do not stagnate you just get the people who cand spend all day spamming ratings at the top of the leagues when they have little skill. You can climb to 5k pretty easily if you have enough time and are an average player. This is not right. At some point you should reach your skill limit and your rating should not go up any further so the top rating players are the top skilled players.
heavy sierra
@agile sphinx i didnt see any bad player with more than 4000 points in ratings..and only spamming games is no guarantee to reach high leagues.. i have seen so many spammers of games with not much success... if rating points are stagnating at some point you are not able to get more or even less points.. how this could work in practice?? you will have a limit of rating points in diamond, no one can get more and no one who reaches this limit gets less points.... doesnt make any sense in my eyes..
late mural
I would be in Diamond every season if it could be done only by grinding. But no it can't. And I'm a bit above average player.
There's nothing much wrong with the points system. Only the calibration is stupid. Like a lottery, how lucky are you in the first 10 battles.
Why not get rid of calibration for everyone who has a rating from previous season? Just continue from the rating you achieved earlier. Or some decay like: those who got 4000 points can start at 3500, and with 5000 points you could start the next season from 4000.
proven cipher
Why You will not ballance gamers over 50% Those should play on X tier rating battles?
Many gamers are dispointed of WR BALANCE at matchmaking.
So You cold make a tournament over 50 WR :-)
And offcours minimum 8k battles that cold be a spectatular event....
,, ALLSTARS EVENT 50/50"
Try to think about that idea
agile sphinx
@heavy sierra Almost no matter what you do, if you keep spamming battles you will keep on climbing. I have seen sub 50% sealclubbers over 5k rating. You gain a lot more points when you win compared to the points you lose when you lose. This means you can have about 40% WR in ratings and still climb. You should lose more points when you lose a battle, so eventually you will get to a point where you gain the same amount of points you lose. This would make ratings reward the more skillful players not the battle spammers, which is how it should be.
@late mural It is definitely possible to get to diamond every season just by spamming battles. Calibration is probably 85% skill, 15% luck with teams. It rewards your performance fairly, although 10 games isnt really enough to make luck negligible.
mental vigil
I liked to grind credits in rating battles on tier 8. On tier 10 its not easy to get a huge amount of credits in only one battle 😦
pine falcon
@mental vigil tbh rating shouldn't be used for credit grinding
mental vigil
@pine falcon why not? I get more EP in the diamand League as well and its not counting into my stats
agile sphinx
Oof 65% IS4 absolutely dominated a ratings game it is so unfair
Wait sorry he was just spawn camping on alpenstadt and did 1.2k damage 🤦
mental vigil
I hate these special consumables. They are making standard fights to mad games 2.0 with armor recover, taking less damage and so on. Don't like the idea 😦
ornate spoke
This is only for the FV4005 line and the 215b
exotic palm
What can I say, People at tier 10 usually don’t have any brain cells .whenever I play tier 10, I feel depressed at what it has become. That’s why I stay away from tier 10.
It’s not much better at lower tiers either.,.
ornate spoke
Tier 8 -7 feels best despite it being the most marketed
urban basin
@agile sphinx no it's not dude, imma good player who hasn't got to diamond yet, most time it was taking too long. But u cant just spam battles and get there, if ur worthless in game and win u barely go up
agile sphinx
Unless you are a complete failure your net movement of points will always be up. This means that you will can get as high as you like, the only limit is how many battles per day you van do. It is easier for good people to move up as it will take less time, but bad players who should not be at 5k rating can still make it there relatively easily if they have the time.
hot zephyr
well not bad players but anyone 55+ can move up in definetely
agile sphinx
50% move up as well pretty quickly
Ive also seen a 42% (i think) who had spammed the vk100.01p and had got into 5k
fallen mortar
Super heavys are good for noobs because they dont punish you as hard as lights and meds
ornate spoke
Also why I’ve seen e100s the most with 46-48% wr
slim pecan
You can definitely bump up in ratings with enough games put in. But sometimes you get stuck in a win then loss loop.
feral lily
What is spamming, plz?
tawdry jacinth
@feral lily repeated use of whatever a cry baby may be crying about in that given instant
feral lily
Thank you for the quick response but not sure how that definition fits what’s being said in threads that I’ve read. Example: “...you can’t just spam battles and get there...” (above talking about ratings).
keen urchin
Spam... to use alot of.....Typically in reference to the use of gold rounds. He was spamming alot of gold
feral lily
Ok, thank you
pliant minnow
Ok, I thought I posted an educational link to origins of “spam” and it seems it got removed 🤔
undone pulsar
@pliant minnow what does that video have to do with #rating-battles ?
delicate hull
Hi, I’ve recently seen discussions about Rating battles in the new setup and there are players that think it is bad with only one tier for rating, not mixing as before. The reason is that many players doesn’t have tier X tanks. Well I disagree, the solution for WG is to have tier 10 and 8 in parallel one month and then next month have tier 7 and 9. No mixing but still possibilities for all to play rating battles.
/Holmen2011, Swe-2, [IGN]
agile sphinx
Tier 7 and 8 shouldny have ratings to start with. It shosuld always have tiet 10, and having tier 9 would just slow down queues. We dont want any random person who hasnt made it to tier 10 to be in ratings. Having only tier 10 thins out the crop a bit so there is a smaller chance of getting people who shouldnt be there.
bold panther
There should be different set of ratings
5k calibrated and earned at tier 8 is not the same at t10
pliant minnow
@undone pulsar Nothing, I was just answering to the previous question about “spam”. Youngsters may not be aware of the origins. I think we have had disagreements over your moderation, so I leave it here.
restive dawn
How about just take the conversation to the channel it belongs rather than spam it here? UwU
”Have to”
I’d suggest to keep the chat off 24/7 atleast i have no reason to keep it on anyway
hushed bough
I really don't like the rating range that is applied to rating battles - it effectively makes it very similar to random battles and you can't guarantee that you avoid 'new' players who are playing beyond their experience and ability - I know it's the same for everyone, but that is not my point - rating battles should be against players of similar skill and rating levels.
regal cosmos
Wouldn’t it increase queue times if they reduce that range?
agile sphinx
Range is wide so gane is dead
fallen mortar
The waiting times are really short atm i like it but its somehow pretty boring 😅
velvet rivet
I had a period of time where the wait times in ratings were shorter then pubs believe it or not lol, cuz 1 tier Xd
vocal cypress
Pls give back old rating