#rating-battles
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Wow, today I made it to 4100+ rating. This is the first time in my blitz years that I got into Platinum League. 🤗🤗
Almost anyone can as long as they battle spam 🤔
Yep
Wut no
@shadow vigil gz
Just get 50 battles at any tier and 8/10 times you will be at 4000+
Like I got +650ish in 23 battles last season
nice'
right ,smh
when does the season end ?
This season is for 2 months, I guess
so boring :(
Can I just get my camos now lol
I wish
@shadow vigil XD
why are people with 44% allowed to play ranked after all ... they didn´t even understand the basics of this game but are able to play ranked matches
🤷
why would they not have equal rights as the rest of the players?
it´s not like i dont want them to have equal rights but shouldnt ranked be competetive and more skill based so players should have some kind of requirements they need to accomplish
in random battles i get along with most players but if someone with 44% plays without beeing calibrated with people at 4,7k and they play horrible without doing any dmg in a heavy tank my eyes and brain starts bleeding
Not enough people in ratings, so they put everyone together
Pulled off a third place record .
Awsome
nice job man
Today I'm going to reach 5k and will finally be able to stop playing ranked yay and congrats for your record
@hollow torrent will rating battles on NA get fixed??
Depends what you mean by fix. Will they ever represent skill? Probably not. @robust swallow At the moment, if you simply battle spam and win 50% of your games, you will get to Diamond and be among the "Top 1% Players".
Waiting 7 min for battles like these... "even rating".
Ratings are just more complex matchmaking random battles, that give you worse teammates.
Dead server probs
Queue times would be shorter with a more populated server. Teams would still be the same if not worse.
@lavish adder im at 4940 trophies with 130 battles, but i saw ppl with 40 wr in diamond with 5020 trophies and smt like 2000 ranking battles...
I'd rather wait 2 min than 5 for same bs
@cedar mauve Yeah, and this is supposed to be the "skill" game mode. 😂
true
the ratings mechanics itself is totally wrong. it should be made in way that a 40wr at 5k trophies will just get -40 trophies all thr time because get matched with pros that just eat him
Maybe after the improved Ranked for WoT PC comes out, if it's good, hopefully Blitz takes some notes instead of this clown fiesta of a game mode that we have now.
just wanna get 5k, but even that is requiring more time than needed
There’s this Player on nA who only plays the vk and he had like 800 rating battles in it last season
I’m not going to name him as all NA rated players would know him if I said his name, let’s just say he barely progressed because all he did was complain and chat crap on his team the entire time
I've seen him
He complains about getting teamed on, then spams "Reds disqualified, we win" if that's the one I'm thinking about @ripe grove
Yes
Thought so
@robust swallow I run about 500-600 battles a season
400 too much lol
Play for first place
it kills the game for me... and the rewards are booty
3k is a lot for me. I don’t spend money on this game anymore . I heard they increased rewards as,well . But that’s what I heard
Right now I’m doing very well, already at 5.500 and I’m only 330 battles in. 6 k is in reach
lmao wot mate... Good luck. 3k gold is not worth the time, or struggle with the imbeciles in ratings. Worse than bots
finally now i can stop playing this crap yeees
you werent forced to play it in the first place
👀
the new ranked camo forced me to 😛
Why are so many people playing the 183 in ratings?
Because they think they can actually help the team win but they just shoot at the wrong targets in order to get more damage
I think we need more awareness about how bad the 183 is for a team
🤔
Use it as nub bait 😂
183 just camp spawn farm damage if win get many points if lose still gain points
from 5k rating i got thrown into 4.7 less then 1 hour
Farm ratings with Wz120
you think? all the lose is because my teams had no brains
No brain is one thing but when you get a 44% who calls the wrong direction and the entire team follows and you lose that's painful. And the guy who called did 0 damage
That exactly what happened its just pathetic when normies comes to ratings
it´s funny when you meet those people and they are at 2,2k and you are nearly 3k above
Lol “pathetic normies”
It's funnier when your 4k and u meet 2k
Yeah that only happens in Asia nowadays
I had a 1.8k 40% player who called the wrong direction and we lost miserably thou I farmed damaged off my entire team
Lol
@ornate spoke uhh okay? But can you type so that it's illegible
I'm platinum as well lel @ornate spoke
is platinum good league? 👀
It's not actually but then again is ratings even a good measure of skill
it's not because anyone can climb "up" to platinum
How to win a rating season: Own a good tier 8 and play 100 games per day
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Useless_Darren#5216 has been warned.
sad thing for me is i sucked at T10 and T8 xD but T9 was great and my first 10 gmes at T10 were great too but for some reason it changed really hard when my calibration was over, my enemies were weaker no super unicum clans for some time but more "special" people
is clicking in Ok in ranked as long as you kill each other and play normal ?
@gray latch what?? That’s not even close, you just need to be really good. I calculated my rating win rate at 65%~ and it didn’t take me many battles to reach 5k. I’ve seen other who spam rating battles all have poorer win rates. Approximately 55%~ or below.
That's exactly the point. Someone with 10% worse winrate than you has the same rating.
If you really want to win. I mean might as well play some more if your dedicated enough and good at it
The rewards aren't even close to worth the effort required
You don’t need to be good to have a high rating
^
Spam battles and don’t yolo
Like unique said
Naming and shaming a clan isn’t allowed here
I suggest revising said statement
Lol 👌
Pretty standard rule
Idk
3900 after 3100
hello guys, do u know what is reward for platinum and Diamond league?
Camo & avatar
@undone vortex on diamond or platinum?
Specific camo & avatar for diamond and plat @bitter ocean
okay thx
follow them then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Would you mind to check out the pinned messages of this channel before posting stuff?
Gotta laggg..
Who play ratings today
Why is WG pausing rating battles at the moment when most of the good players are online?
I can play at my the best in the early morning, but rating is always closed than.
But no one else can , waiting time is getting ridiculous at this time of day
12 or More loses in a Row, droped from 4700 to 4500 GREAT WG!! TEAMS ARE SO EQUAL!!?
Pins
Lack of wins? Check the pins.
If you go down by 200 after 12 matches the avg of points you lost is quite high so I guess it's not really your team's at least not all the time
Right.. if youre on top of the leaderboards you lose like 5 to none. If youre doing good.
Ik but sometimes although you are top you lose like 20 points, after been 4 vs 1
I get yoloed at in ratings lol
or that happens xD
I would like Wargaming to not show the stats of unplayed tanks and I am also okay with not having medals in ratings as a result. It affects my mastery ratio and my total tanks played.
... it's not supposed to show unplayed tank stats, and mad games is a fun mode with mods so it doesn't show any of those stats either which is why u didn't get any medals etc from it, and wrong channel
The tanks shown in dev chat are all over 1% of total games in that update
By unplayed tanks, they mean show the tanks below 1%
@undone pulsar this is what mean, where it affects your mastery ratio, despite showing 0 battles played
OwO what happened to dark_magician_girl? no longer community helper i see
@restive dawn neither is maddox. (He was a community helper I think too)
@jagged dirge this guy must play on rating battles so you se 0
Exactly, and that’s a problem @zinc salmon
The fact you can see zero battles in the first place is a problem
I have usurped them 😆
when we stop playing ranked, is there a reset after a week without playing or something like that?
60days until the rating goes to calibration stage so no need to worry about that
Ugh ur that guy with 49 in ratings ... I hate that in my RU lol
my wt auf thanks for bringing HE targets
My WT thanks you for bring a HE target too 😂
this makes you look more like the kid than him I guess xD
Um.
D4rk3st_Savage [SLC_3]#2988 was muted
Amx 30 1er Prototype Is Part Of Turning to The Tier X Amx 30B
So now I get a camo on my rhm and bc at the end of the season?
@shadow vigil you will get on Bat Chat and Rhm
Okay thank you @pine falcon
do we get both camos if we reach 5k ?
Only diamond camos
😦
In which World is this 4 Points down? And why? Is there anybody who can tell me how this Point System Works? Why do i get punished for good gameplay while i get 0 Points or +1 for some really weak gameplay?
you lost that's why you dont earn them as much as winner team
You didn’t lose to much to be fair
Guys rating battles are showing up on blitzstar now?
Rating battles should be privilage to skilled players. Now every 40wr muppet under 1k battles is just ruining this so called "ranked battles" .... Not to mention matchmaking is dumb .. me 59wr + 6 45wr bots vs 7 guys around 52-53wr ... getting my team slaughtered in blink of eye... matchmaking script is too simple, too cheap, written probably by 15yr old
@ColdSly#2445 carry harder
@restive dawn i know that i did loose the Battle, and i know that i didnt loose that much. But i dont get it, why is sometimes that i loose almost nothing or even GET Points when i did almost nothing in Battle, and then i have battles where i absolutly carry hard and even loose points
gaining rating points works just like gaining xp in games, the more you do the more points you gain
i got -4 for that and i had to fight them and not camp all the time and ranked battles got worse with 5.10 since all those "special" people play ranked for thier missions ...
@fallen mortar Sad that you lost points while you did more damage than your whole team together
Nice meme
But thats exactly what i mean, you make three times as much damage as youre team atleast and still loose points... thats nonsense!
@fallen mortar nothing to add
5.10 made it worse I'm happy that my main got his 5k before the update but I can't do the missions anymore since they always want me to do rating battles
@fallen mortar hahaha, now u stuck 😂 😂
But that is only one mission, so u not miss nothing, only the last container
yeah absolutly true, mad games, and all this shit made it just worser, normal and rating battles... I mean, i dont give a shit about my rating points, but still i dont get it how the system really works
Like, the last game, i spotted 2 tanks, did top damage (1000 Points difference to next one below me) just 2 People been over 1000 Damage at all... and still i loose 4 Points
the higher you get the less you loose
wow now i cant get the only thing i care about ... great
@elfin parcel yeah, system of points are bad. You suffer bcs bad team even if you do 2 x more dmg than enemy
if you learn to carry hard enough you can earn points in losses too
Just watch this, plus the Hate incoming from my team against me, because im a camper
@restive dawn 5 point
19 Points down, for more than twice as much damage done as the second of the team.... GG Point System, that keeps the will alive to do good games
The point is just watch the Tortoise of the Winning Team, he DONE absolutly NOTHING... so wheres the point of me Loosing 19 Points for Top Damage when he gets 8 Points for a Winning Team, while he did nothing?
climb high enough so you wont lose that many points at a time
ofc earning less points from a game too
@restive dawn i was on 4200 all the last Rating Battles, this time i got pretty low into it, and i dont get it done with those teams to get up quickly, mostly i come up to 3700 and then i get a loosing streak of 10-15 games and im back to where ive been
But thats not the point, my problem at all is, that gaming performance from individual player is totally underappreciated by the system, only winning counts, and not youre own effort you brought into the game, and thats what sucks
You can play as good as you want, and still loose points bc's of bad teams, like today i had 5k Damage why my entire team was below 1000 Damage, most of them even below 500... What did i get for that? 2 Lousy Points.... LOL
If i had a win on this, i had easily 50-70 Points+, so why not give me even if a lost, like 10 Points for effort?
When you are the only tier 9 in a tier 10 game and still out perform them all (+13 in loss)
@elfin parcel you dont seem to get that almost every loss will lose you points, unless you actually carried very well. Otherwise it would be much easier to go up the leagues which isn't meant to happen
@agile sphinx you cant carry hard if your team lose in 30 sec ..
Sure you can, but its very unlikely. Even the godly blue bc 25 t loses sometimes, all that matters is how much you limit your points loss
you get points for exp i think so as soon as you get vailliant effort you get a low minus or a plus of a few points
Excuse me what? This rating system is nothing but a farming mode
and the further you climb in ranking the higher is the chance of one loosing less points but you get less points for winning too
i´ve seen people with 4k and 5k in a battle doing pretty much the same but the 5k one got less minus so i guess at least you loose less if you are in MM below your ranking or something else
The only thing that matters is what you do in the games, not how team does, you gain your own points by dealing damage, capping bases, spotting the enemies, killing them etc. It's all about what you do, cannot blame other players about your own incapabilites
@shadow vigil thats what im talking about, this is how it should look like.... You carried hard, most of youre team did almost nothing, you dont get punished for it.... @agile sphinx Dude ill absolutly get that, but why should it be like that? I have so often matches where i carried allmost the triple damage of the second best and still i loose points.... I would absolutly be with ya, if i would be like 100 Damage above the second, but not with twice or the triple damage and still loosing points
It doesn't mattet what your team does, it matters what you do, so you shouldnt be comparing yourself to your team
guys this rating season ends at the end of april??
No
end of may?
for some reason yeah
oh you poor thing bottom tier... but ur in a T30...
I actually meant the rating points
3420 vs 4326
carry harder... no IDK
@shadow vigil it doesn't count players that are still in calibration yet in the those numbers, but those players still have a hidden rating and they're factored into the MM
@neat wind ah okay ty
Saw a 43% player at 4,6k just because he spams vk 100.01p for over 700 battles
I have a question. For example if I have gotten 5K rating points and get into diamond league and then play a battle and lose points and get back into Platinum league. Do I get the Diamond league avatar or the platinum league avatar after the season has finished?
This is the worst update ever!!!!!
So are u @elder prairie
The update is great, I do not know why you are complaining
The worst ever
why so?
if you drop down from diamond league you wont get diamond league rewards. Players will be rewarded by their rating at the end of the season
This is not fair system of points ...i do the best, and only 1 point???? Koji kurac
Hahaha 👌
Xero What the fjcfka😂 😂
10th game of the calibration stage
Indeed:)
oh true
How are points awarded in rating battles. Is it exp or dmg?
xp @gusty gust
I wish blocking damage added a small amount of xp
yeah me too I had battles of blocking 7k damage but hey doesn't matter i guess
And given that the heavy philosophy is more about being a shield while lights Spot and scout it seams fair
yeah i mean even if it's not blocking damage and just taking it, you are still kinda doing your job as a heavy, taking hits
Yeah. I hope the devs are listening
Why do i have 2 of these?
LOL
Nice 😂
Who do I have 2 of these?
Why i cant sell avatar???? 😭 😭 😭
Why should blocking dmg give more exp you just helped your team by taking away shots 😂 waiting and stealing kills is much more helpful (not talking about the helpful killing I'm talking about waiting for the killshot)
Who has 5000 points? What tanks do you suggest to me? (Sorry for bad english). Usually i use obj140, T34 and T44. I have now 4700 points
Use any tank you're good in
Yep exactly.
I'd use batchat but im hunting the camo for grille this time
At the end, it is luck
Nah
What players you meet in battle
@ocean night i use the WT and it can work brilliantly, but occasionally you will lose a lot of points from mistakes or bad luck
Yeah... you are right....
Tbh i think any high pen tier 9 would work well, because so many people spam tier 8 you are likely to be top tier,but you can still do well as bottom tier too
petition to remove mines from rating map pools
I'll sign
Even better to remove it from the game...
I'll sign that too
Mines is a horrible map especially in ratings
how long does this season last for?
@crimson goblet if you have a league avatar at this very moment just look at the timer in which it expires
but there is still quite a bit of time until the season ends
i dont think the season still goes for a bit over a month
@crimson goblet
taken from the article "Spring Season Rating Battles" on the official website
thanks mate
Happy to help.
Is this only on the EU server? Or worldwide?
Eu
Thanks
Did almost half of the team dmg and got. -2 points. Tell me how it works
It has nothing to do with what your team does, how hard is it to understand?
@analog root pinned messages
@analog root its above how high your rating is mostly. Over 5 k rating will mean on loss you probably won't go up even a little
Noice try tho
-2 not bad
Friendly reminder that Mines isn't so competitive map for rating
mines... what a gloriously carcinogenic experience.
@safe inlet change ur name before you get banned. WG dont like usernames like that.
tbh anyone with that username should just be banned
My name has nothing inappropriate in it @inland elbow
@safe inlet Lol nice name, I read it wrong at first XD
Use your eyes and pay attention to spelling you see? @inland elbow
friendly reminder again that Mines should be removed already in rating map pools
^ i agree it's just too simple for ratings
then probably you are too much camping if you think black gold had huge flaws duh...
mines on other side... is really have linear gameplay unlike other map... usually the game will just ended in the middle and the map didn't courage player to play to the other side of map except middle therefore it's shouldn't be on competitive mode like Ratings Battles
Since one side has a huge advantage
40%ers shouldn't be in ratings as well but they still are and with 5.10 there are even more and it's my personal opinion on black gold.
We seriously need auto AFK reporter... So many 40%ers that don't know how ratings work get to bronze and crap all over their teamates, supposedly 'equally skilled' and destroy their massive carry
it’s not really clear how ratings battles actually works to anyone that hasn’t played them, not just 40%ers..don’t b such snobs you were a 40%er at some point
I weren't not everyone who starts a game doesn't understand how the game mechanics work
I’ve seen people with the goal of getting the lowest rating they could lol
Got down to the lowest rating on NA
Oof
Teams are somehow worse in rating than in random
Thats why i grind credits there
Well teams r not worst but the competition gets stiffer ;-;
You really just have to play for yourself, and really being 5k+ isn't as worth it as it takes 5+ mins to get into matches
I Am 100% Nutt Button
I can't play rating because there is a timer?
Oof
F to pay respects
F
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@shadow vigil play a light tank or a fast med and try to stay alive as much as possible, works for me, when i lose i only lose 2 to5 points
@shadow hearth I’m bad at light tanks. Everytime I try to spot safely for my team, some random high caliber gun from the enemy shoots at me and the rest of the battle I cant do something
That's sorta true in rating, but the thing is, what i do is analyze the teams behavior at start and decide whether spotting would benefit the team (hp trade), i rarely spot when i drive my leo because as you said, enemy Tds know where you will pop up, so i use it as a support tank and when i have a chance i push very aggressively with it in a rush
Altho my most played tank in ranked is the 215B because i just got it, i am fairly certain that i would have gotten to 6k by now if i played the leo from start
In rating full of campers, and no support when you need it.
Spot from not so predictable places
It's not that hard
Spot is easy
Do rating battles affect your winrate?
No
friendly reminder that Mines shouldn't exist on rating
@shadow hearth ty for the tip!
No worries
@shadow hearth Nice, now I got a steel wall in my LTTB as bottom tier🤗
It's a really good tank
how did you get 75 pins tho xD
75 coins for being in platinum
lmao
i'm getting 50 in diamond per win
Is 75 normal?
@shadow hearth Damn! I forgot about the buff! I was using the stock gun all the time because of the better gun depression. Now I will use the top gun on the LTTB, this can def make the difference
Not sure, but I dont really care about coins. I have enough boosters so hehe
@shadow hearth if you like gun handling, type 64 is not for you.
i like speed
It accelerates quite slow compared to other light tanks
low profile + speed
VK28 is better
KV2 can not pen your front with HE if you are in VK, meanwhile Type gets spanked. Both have similar guns and VK has better gun handling
the VK only has a really fat profile, and sides+rear that are huge HE baits
same as Type 64
if anyone lets a KV2 hit them no matter where they are then they should stay away from light tanks
Vk is way taller than type 64
I mean if you think a KV2 shot but you are not completely sure just point your frontal armor of VK towards it and He should not be able to pen HE. That does not apply for type 64
VK's sides are much easier to hit with HE, type 64 has a thin layer above its track wheels that you must shoot in order to get a full HE pen
If you know that KV2 can not penetrate your front with HE will you show him your side?
first off i never ever would be in a position where a kv2 is looking at my front in a light tank
the only time he would look at me is when i am running away from a distance showing him my sides
Ok. I hope you get the tank and realize how bad it is compared to VK28 especially when engaging is close quarters combat
you have the type 64 ? @pine falcon
yep
Want a screenshot?
why would i want a screenshot
To prove that I have the tank
Why wouldn't i believe you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i know for a fact that the type has the best traverse in game
Idk if it is the best but it is good.
Suggestion for those who wanna reach Diamonds Quickly
oh god
But u low tier so playing in rating isn't so hard?
Btw. Chance to win tanks in spring season chests is pretty 😢
when you have to play Smasher to reach Diamond xD
Everytime I get +100, the same day I lose -100
Today I started at 4653, went to 4750. And now back at 4650. Like I just wasted hours
U got to play with very stable net and new versions of devices with HDR graphics
120 Fps😆
Then there is no chance to lose
I dislike the fact that no one plates ratings so u don't get an actual ratings baytle just anyone the mm can grab. Making it boring and a waste of time
Rating battles are for challenging mm, it's really fight against mm not good players (for the most part)
how do you get the ratings avatar? I just calibrated for the first time
Reach 3k for gold avatar, 4k for platinum, then 5k for the diamond
when rattinh season it is over?
At the end of May @short sonnet
So now I get 4 rating camo’s?
Yes
really you can get it in more than 1 tank?
Yup. 1 tank per tier
oh thx for info
friendly reminder mines should just removed already from rating map pools ffs
I played a total of 2 hours of ratings out of which I made into only 4-5 games
Mines is a good map imo
It is too much meta based. You need a good turret or good speed. If you don't have those you are pretty much dead.
I think this rating season is taking too long. I reached 4K a week ago and i dont play anymore, afraid that i lose the camo. I would have played more if it ended this month or if i could consolidate the camo and then play on. I think there are many players out there in the same situation.
well since it's competitive season i mean there is spring and also twister
other that is off-season which i unlikely doing rating
@zenith trellis problem is there's just no incentive to play ratings after you reach 4k. since the battles are harder and take longer, you earn LESS (credits/XP) than in normal battles. and the prizes are not worth it, not even close.
Don't you earn more credits and more exp due to the bonuses
Getting into a match is taking 2 minutes avg in 4500 rating where I am. And after that you can only play 3 minutes and than lose. It feels boring in platinum league. I played 9 battles in the morning and I lost 8 of them with an avg of 1800 dmg in tier 8. Than I did 0 dmg and I won. +1 rating after -120😒
2mins that's good I take like 5mins + am at 4.9k rating
Well, take a look at the new event. For sure everybody goes out to play rating now.
looks like a nice event but I don't see any extra bonus for playing rating..
@undone vortex bonuses are not enough to compensate for the fact that it's much harder to do damage (and thus earn credits / xp) in rating battles. of course ratings SHOULD give you better earnings but in practice it does not.
For the record ratings isn't for earning creds / xp in the first place @late mural is for the more competitive playstyle then again now missions require win x amount of rating battles now everyone gonna do ratings
there are so many bad players in ratings now. I thought it was supposed to be a platform for better players. you might as well play public games at this point
Lol, Ratings has always been a cesspool to me. I haven't even bothered with them since they removed spare parts (I used to farm SP in the T-54. Kill 2 tier tens in it and get an instant 1k SP). Anyways, Ranked basically concentrates all the ragers, trash talkers, and campers whenever I play. Regular games has the excuse of people being inexperienced or at least ignorant. Meanwhile the posterboys of the Dunning Kruger Effect always seem to crop up in ranked... At least that's my experiences with ranked.
How many battles do you need in a particular tank for the Camo?
50
@knotty kayak pinned messages
Hi
lets say I did 50 battles on t49 and 100 battles on is3def, will the camo be passed to t49 or will I be compensated for credits?
@undone pulsar how is that?
Oh
nevermind
the anger took over me. Srry for the thing
You should think before you act
I should. 😪
Rating battles in a nutshell😂🤣
🤔
Or this one😝
@ornate spoke no, IS3 Def will get the camo but because it can not carry the camo it will be converted to credits
@pine falcon That’s kinda sad...
@shadow vigil Look at my rating. 250+ battles in IS3 Def. It is an amazing tank for rating so no wonder people play it
@pine falcon Thats true, but I mean its sad that he doesn’t get the rating camo on the T49
Hey, nothing I can do about it. There are specific terms for it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I always wonder why IS-3 Def is working so well in ranked I mean you can get yoloed pretty easy
And your reload is pretty long
@fallen mortar 1st, because a lot of people use TDs in Ranked. With IS3 Def you can oneclip the most commonly used tier 8 TDs - Scorp, WZ120gft, RHM, ISU etc. Also the tank has amazing armor and combined with mobility you can make some funky unexpected plays. Also it has 7 degrees of gun depression allowing it more flexibility compared to other russian tier 9 heavies
Oh haven't thought about that only know it has some troll armor but when I played ISU in ranked nothing stood a chance against those 286 mm pen not even its turret 😁
The is3 def can do 1200 dmg in 15s, while other heavies can do 800 dmg in 15s @fallen mortar
@pine falcon guess they changed that rule, in the beginning it was like that but needed to confirm. Thank you for the reply, appreciated:)
Can anybody tell me when Spring Season Rankeds end?
end of this month @elfin parcel
hol up i need 50 battles in each tier to get thr camo or 50 battles in the same tank in each tier to get the camo
50 battles in the tier, and your most played tank iirc
oh ok, more reasonable, thanks
its fun to try this challenge on sp1c ... soon that camo will be on it. hope to god i dont loose ratings by the end of it
I haven’t received my camo for last month. Anyone know what’s going on. I should have four camos between two accounts.
Literally 5 messages ago someone told it again, this is a 2 month season and you'll get them on the end of May
@rugged plover you may need to send a ticket to WG asking for march rating camo
but if youre talkin about April, this one last for 2 months because of the spring season
@ornate spokethanks. I’m in the 2 month cycle apparently
tbh ratings is really dumb. Its just a bunch of unicums who refuse to communicate with each other. Tourneys actually has that communication factor
Oh....and here I thought you wanted to be a unicum 🤔 😂
I already am one. Im just commenting
Sorry, just couldn't help to pun
Everytime I get near & over 3700 in ratings I’m there after given bad teams & made to lose..& I mean EVERYTIME without fail ! My playstyle doesn’t change so it’s nothing to do with me,just the matching...Like your teams avg. rating is higher than the enemy team but then they’re given better tanks. There is a pattern to this also,like ‘our’ rating is too high & we need to be dropped deliberately!
Check out the pinned messages and git gud
your playstyle needs to change if you're gonna be fighting better opponents. I calibrated at 3.7k and I climbed to 4k in like 50 odd battles (because half of those battles was tier 7 xd), so it's a "you" problem
i mean if your playstyle hasn't changed and this keeps on happening doesn't that sound like the cause of your problem ?
Nope as I’m usually top of my teams scores! I can only carry so much but it’s impossible to carry so many noobs or fight against the odds.
You could be farming damage at the corner of the map or shooting targets with more HP instead of helping your teammates take out the tanks that're engaging them.
haha yeah right,played over 64k battles,I know what I’m doing!
More often than not, battles played is not a good measure of how much you know and how good you are. Players can have 45k battles but be unwilling to learn and be bad players in general. Even if you show a picture of a matchup where it honestly puts your team at a disadvantage, it's up to you to influence that battle, and these do not make up majority of the battles you've played in ratings.
64k battles and you clearly do not know what you're doing if you're blaming mm about your own incapabilities
I'm sorry but that emoji at the end makes me somewhat dislike you @sonic sedge
wow really intelligent answers even with the proof of what I was ‘saying’! So you’re suggesting I can score more than most of the noob players but ‘I’ need to get better!?🙄
avg player in this game is a 48%er if you're slightly better does it make you a good player?
and yes get better there's absolutely no way you can blame others if you cannot carry hard enough to get past 3700 rating
@sonic sedge Yeah, if you're unable to climb that means it's a "you" problem. Also why're you using apostrophes as open and close quotation marks?
Proof is in the screenshot..as I mentioned! Photo’s don’t lie. Trolling rubbish like you are doesn’t help!
comparing yourself to your team has nothing to do with not being able to climb up to 3700 rating
also feel free to check out the pinned messages of this channel pls
I wasn’t...Just proving my point why I cannot generally get above 3800 in ratings battles.Here’s another screen shot,highest score but lost again 😬
you only pulled 1.5k dmg.
as i said earlier rating points has nothing to do with comparing yourself into your team
the only aspect that matters is what you do in the battlefield, not what your team does. You earn your points by yourself
Yeah so basically: all that matters is lose or win. Win means rating goes up and lose means rating goes down. Its only rarely seen that players get rating up in a lose
heh
But if you want to go up rating fast, buy a brutal OP tank. I would recommend the WZ-120G1-FT. Its so good that even tier 9 tanks will be screwed
cant be bought
@sonic sedge why post that here?
Even tho I complained a lot myself and after reaching 5k I think dmg isn't all and support is the most important thing to do, u can't tell most of the players what to do but you can help them and since dmg farming isn't rewarding at all and killstealing unfortunately is I recommend spotting and trackshots combined with some dmg
Spotting and caps are huge
My rating went up +7 despite a loss,I was the only one on my err ‘team’ to go up as I destroyed 5 enemy tanks!
That was a battle today also.
I have two questions if anybody could help me pls.
1)Do I need to win or play 20 battles in the same league to get the avatar of that league.
2) how many days until your score gets reseted?
you receive the avatar of the league you're in when the rating season ends no matter how many battles you've fought
and the rating resets at the end of this month, the 31th of may
So...I know this has been discussed, but I wanted to get all of the details straight. So ratings camo is earned by playing 50 battles in a specific tier and reaching platinum league, and it is applied at the end of the season to the vehicle with the most rating battles in that tier, no matter if that vehicle has less than 50 battles. You also get to permanently keep the camo after the season ends, right?
yes
Thx
good to hear
Do I get anything besides a rather useless avatar for doing ratings? Like a camo?
yep you get this sweet camo for getting to platinum and diamond leagues
So in order to get the camo do I have to play 50 rating battles at that tier or just play 50 rating battles in general?
50 at the tier
Sorry I phrased that wrong
So in order to get the camo do I have to play 50 rating battles at that tier or just play 50 battles at that tier in general?
Rating battles
A bit farther up some people confirmed most of the details about the camo
Top 100 highest rating players get also gold
When is the end of ratings season anyone know?.
It's still the end of May
Just played battle in rating. Did 4k dmg, spotted 4, killed 5 and only got 24 points
Other guy did 4k and 1 kill and he got 45 points. Mkay
@ornate spoke That is because the higher rating you have the less points you get for a win. For example I am 5K rating ( which I am) and win with 4K damage at tier 8 and a person with 3K rating wins a battle with 4k damage at tier 8, the player with the lower rating points will get way more than the person who has 5K rating
Ohh. Didnt know that. Thanks for explanation @pine falcon
@ornate spoke this is to prevent rating scores up to 10K and so on. When you reach about 5.5K rating, you get like 5-10 points for a win even if you did really well
When does the rating season end ?
End of my I believe
end of May
Still enough time to get 5k+ if you didnt play @placid meadow
i don't care for 5k i think about going for top 1
Not gonna happen. just saying\
Still enough time for that too lel
did it once @pine falcon might happen again
eh wish to start new with everyone @ornate spoke
6.1K is very hard...
I know you are a good player, an amazing player, but it seems quite impossible if you start now @placid meadow
@pine falcon i am not planning on starting now, I think of starting when the season resets
Oh. Well good luck. 6.6K is quite a lot btw
that was on the first season xd I think at the end it was like 8k
I am on 5,1k now lel
now it is a bit hard as there are people dedicating their time to being first. Ali Mosa (the number one on EU atm) was Number one last season and i believe the season before that @placid meadow ¯_(ツ)_/¯
He plays a lot
pff tryhard
it's kinda sad that it's more so whoever plays the most instead of whoever is better
Even if he is a tryhard it is pretty hard to take his No1 spot
Eh I think ratings should be tier 10 locked because it should be the best of the best fighting in the best vehicles
eh ofcourse they would, rating points driving people mad so they try as hard as possible which usually means people holding
ali mosa is actually quite good
@placid meadow if you lock on T10 there will be even more people there that shouldn't even play T6
meh they would break off after a couple thousand points
I hoped that this season too but till 5k I met pretty much everything that makes the game hard for one at least 1 40% player that didn't know what to do in my team
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah you just can’t attack because everyone plays defense @ornate spoke
Flank them
you know what would be a great solution to this problem ?
WG should decrease the impact of inflicted damage and increase the impact of assisted damage/blocked damage when calculating how many rating points you get, that will push players to play more offensive
What about this: the closer you are, the higher alpha you will roll
you'll see yoloing deathstars all day 😂
You cannot use the kv5 with the good gun in ratings :(
maybe because it would extremely stupid to get stuck in a t9 game against an e75?
god autoloaders really should be counted as mediums for the purpose of ratings
@hot zephyr T57 ‘Heavy’
Can we have in future , Match making by avg dmg or avg xp ! , I think that will be a huge develop , sorry for my English but i hope you understand what I mean .
@torpid hull Some players have bad stats over the whole blitz career but are actually super good in the last 30 days. Which means they get easy targets
Many time we played with beginners , tier X , that is bad not states , they should have a goal for future
The MM system probably decided to put you into a match because you were waiting for too long
I doubt same control mode thingy even works in ratings due the smaller amount of players
@rotund venture watch your language
2 many bounces ...shoot for 0 that i should care abt my language
Not my foult that in this game everything is broken full of bugs, glitches what WG is calling Matchmaking and RNG
When does rating season end
@haughty onyx I think the 31st
So still plenty time?
yep
Teammates in ratings are a joke around 3k
They are all completely clueless. I need to use them as meat shields I guess.
Lord RNGesus pls bless me
Waited like 25 minutes to get a nub team
stuck at 4k :((
ur clearly increasing what do you mean by stuck
what is the current state of asia rating now?
how much you guys that still play that has above 500 rank in asia?
I stopped ratings after I reached 5k
tier x easy. tier 8 hard :))
that is because you usually play tier 8 rating in lts duh
Tier 8 is easy tier X is hard I'm big nub
For me it's easier to play t10 than any other tier
I prefer tier 9 🤷
Meh t10 is best imo. Also you're always top tier
I play 8/9
T9 is fun
9 you get to massacre all the prems at 8 and farm people who ignore you at 10...
more like farm T8 tanks and get focussed in T10 because you are an easy target
Been low tier is always good for a mastery
And some tier viii premiums are much better in some situations than a tier ix
For example put a t34 vs an m103 both hull down
T 34 wins
T34 almost always wins when it’s hull down game
lol
Eh, my money is still on the M103 winning in the hull down fight actually. With HEAT ammo, the M103 has no issues at all penetrating the T34's turret; even through the mantlet. The only way the T34 can bounce the M103's HEAT ammunition is if it hits the mantlet edges or gun. Even the M103's AP shell will punch through the cheeks fairly reliably. On the other hand, even if the T34 loads gold, since it has APCR and not HEAT, the armor profile of the M103 doesn't change; it can only be penned in the relatively small cheeks
And that's not to mention the M103's HP, RoF, and gun handling advantages
340 HEAT should not be underestimated
This is the T34's turret vs. M103 HEAT (without calibrated shells.
And this is M103 vs. T34 APCR (without calibrated shells)
It's quite clear which armor profile you'd rather have in a hull down fight, especially at longer ranges where the M103's vastly superior gun handling and aim time can come into play
Quick question. I’ve not been tracking how many battles each tank has fought. Is there somewhere i can find a counter/record?
(Specifically spring season rating battles)
I’ve tried to find the same numbers for prolly the same reason you are. No. It’s not recorded if you switch around tanks a lot you can loss your count
Ah welp. If i fight min 2 battles a day from here on out all the ones i want camo should get it.
Only the ones with most battles will get it
So you do your 50 battles per tier and reach 4k then the tank with most battles of each tier with 50 battles will get the camo
Ya i just need to make sure they have the 50 battles. 4k is no problem im at 3550 currently.
But you get put in tier X battles more often
I probably shouldn’t be admitting this but I play t54 in ratings and like 95% of the time get with tier 8 and dominate.
How do I get in tier 8 more?
Simple answer: I watch the counter to make sure I won’t get in a tier ten match
Works like a charm, easy 30-50 points every battle
It probably helps that in Asia not a lot of people do ratings
Nearly got to diamond doing this lol
Please don’t kill me
Lmao. I think almost Everyone close to 5k did the same thing
So if I threw my Mauschen into the Asian rating server... 🤔
Waow sO sMaRt , how come no one else do this 6969 iq moves?
23 battles at t10 and only 24 points earned, this why tier 8 and 7 shudnt exist in ratings
This makes me really sad, that u can reach 5k by playing op prems or just farming t8s
Or tier 8 and 7 could be seperate from 9 and 10
Or completely seperate tiers?
No remove t8 and t7 and if ur gonna seperate the tuers, seperate the leaderboards as well then, i m tired of #1 players being wz spammer or some other t8 spammer
Facts right there ^^ then again is4 spam is a thing
Isn’t their always going to be rank spamming
Find a tank that does well and just stick with it
But tier X is better than tier 8 in terms of skill measurement
True enough, Tier ten doesn’t have as many obviously op tanks as tier 8
Dont tell me is4 spam is as bad as wz spam or smasher spam
Is4s are not as op as those tier 8s comparing tier for tier
Nah just pointing out if it's tier X only I'll prob need to actually play srs to get the 5k but with tier 8 you can just farm off people smh
I’m definitely not saying that the is 4 spam is as bad
The is4 is much more balanced imo
Hopefully tier X stays as the most balanced tier
Wonder if the 4005 will be op or not
How about T22 spam
Or t28 proto. I’ve made almost 900 rating points on the NA server.
I want to rant but I can't reeeeee
there are arguments for the is4. There isn't a single argument the wz 120 isnt op
@hot zephyr there doesn’t need to be an argument. It’s an accepted fact
great love those leo´s that dont spot
215B is good for rank
Best are meds and lights
Anything mobile enough to relocate and get into position seems to work fine for me in any tier in ranked
oops sent wrong image, how do I delete this post?
Does anyone know what the Diamond league camo is?
@soft yacht done
thx
@shadow hearth total battles ?
For me ratings are useless
We should get more rewards
@shadow hearth in tier X
Wew you play a lot your going for top 1?
No lol, i just wants camo, i’m barely like in top 30
700 battles for diamond seems excessive
Yeah the thing is, i love playing tier 10, and in diamond you get 66% boost of XP and credits, and i had a lot of boosters, so now i have 260K free xp ready for the fv4005
It's like extra premium 😂
sometime i just tired some player can't even do right positioning in rating... while since i abide what moderator write in pin i will not go into further of that
can we just remove rating battles from mission? please?
it's ain't competitive when you forced to do so
Cough cough remove mines
oh right also remove mines
it's much request but yeah it's for keeping the rating competitive
remove mines adds copperfield
Removes Copperfield adds mad games to rating
remove rating add competitive mode
Removes rating adds 1 v 4 mode 😂
@shadow hearth that's the issue and also when they do or when enemy has better meds the entire team has no brains and does not go cap
Well then its the problem of the team not the map, i think the map that should be removed from ranked is himmelsdorf, that thing to small for ranked
The case where „enemies have better meds” applies to a lot more maps, port bay the most
I like mines tbh
1057 rating ftw
lol what
@hot zephyr
should he be reported?
What should I be reported for; i did at least 2 shots of damage each game and pushed for my team; didn't block any players either and received 0 thumbs down
yeah i doubt that
Tis the truth, I'm not a d*ck.
Just the pushing involved rushing their spawn
I very much doubt that you a player of above avg calibre can reach 1k ratings without actively trolling
Nothing wrong with trying new tactics, plus I promise I received 0 reports in the duration of that and I didn't block a player once
The worse thing is he is doing it in a T22med....
A tank that bounces a lot of shots, which helped my team even more as I could soak up more shots
someone should end this mens career
You tier X rating shows that you are losing 9 points per battle, there is no way anyone can acheive that without trolling, besides, the fact that you have a T22 and you have 64% winrate last 30 days and 68% in T22 shows that you are not that much of a bad player. I swear some people got to much time on their hands
eek well ill admit i wasnt exactly trying to win but i promise there was no trolling
and haha yeah it pretty much does come down to too much time
Doing 0 damage intentionally counts as trolling, rushing enemies at start counts as trolling, going alone to different positions counts as trolling
fired at least a couple times in pretty much every battle and tried to get as much damage in as possible before dying, so many new players innocently rush at the start of games and so many more go it alone even when their team calls for them to go a certain way
You have 68% winrate in your T22, yet you lose 9 points per game. This makes 0 sense, like if you did as you said 1K+ damage per battle and lost the battle, there is no way you could lose 9 points per game
i mean fair enough but it wasnt always 1k, half the time i would make 1 shot before being wiped by high alpha tds (and even mediums and heavies) that sat in spawn
next season i will try some trolling till 0.5K i guess
but how am i supposed to know that its possible to be better at the game when you play as a team, the game doesn't give you that advice ever
not my fault all these tanks sit in spawn, the most common selling point WG uses for tanks is literally their sniping capabilities (literally check the description it gives for the T23E3 - it suggests you snipe)
but at least they are doing something about the stagnant gameplay.... oh wait no they are literally nerfing the heavy tanks that make more interesting and aggressive gameplay possible
The problem is that you know how to play (given that you have 68% wr in T22), „not my fault all these tanks sit in spawn”, of course it’s not your fault. But it’s your fault if you intentionally intend to rush enemies knowing that they are camping.
You said „i was not trying to win”, that alone should signify rating is not for you. It’s exactly for opposite people that seek victory
see thats how people should think and i agree with that, however it also raises a lot of moral questions such as: Should new players be given extra rights because they are new? Where is the line that a player is suddenly expected to just understand the whole game and not make any mistakes of judgement? Is it wrong to test new tactics and explore changing the meta?
it would be extremely biased if WG discriminated against their player base like that
Thats exactly why rating starts from T7 and up
Where players have a general idea of the gameplay
ah yes the T7s that you can get from the 500 gold it gave u from the event, and then from the crates they released for 500 gold - i spent the 500 gold i got from the event and got the T7 rudy
That i can’t argue lol 😂
But then again, not many new players spend 10$+ on a game they just downloaded
yeah and we cant really accuse the whole premium system of being flawed as it does work as intended, just with a few unintended side effects that cant be helped
however changes to the game could overcome this, such as MM that pairs up stock/ tech tree tanks etc - although that would effect the diversity of tanks in game
Does it take more skill to reach 0 ratings then it takes to get 5k?
True, but that would result in longer queues
certainly takes more dedication
yeahhh true, its a hard thing for WG to go about 'fixing'
Imagine waiting 20 minutes + just to lose.
Asia?
then stop playing ratings! theres an idea
Gold diggin
@ripe grove I saw you a couple times today on red and green I think. What tier was that? Seems like the wait for tier X right when ratings opens up.
I’ve waited for an hour for a tier ten game, and I lost while doing top damage.
F @ripe grove
U think the longer u wait the more u should win?
(this is a joke)
@gleaming thicket you must keep in mind the rate of progression. I don't care about losing. I care about the fact I have to wait 40 minutes to make up that loss. I feel bad for players in ratings below 5650 right now because I GARUNTEE they won't even make it to top 3 on NA servers no matter the amount of time they put in just because the ques.
(this is an explanation of my posistion)^
Definitely true lol, they need to figure out how to revive ratings, I think they have started to because of the mission requiring you to play in rating
Yea, that may be effective to attract new rating players.
@sweet tartan hey genius, maybe if your objective isn’t to win then you shouldn’t play ratings!
Ok @rough pecan
And omg is tier 8 rateing terrible atm
Always going in with a dpm tank. They is so hopeless
call 911. maybe they can help :))
let me sum up tier 8 matches, its either defender or glacial spam fest or t26e4+WZ-120 combo
honestly wargaming should holdon from releasing another tier 8 premium or the rating battles will get plagued again
Wait times are... not fun
getting 12 on a loss is pretty good
90% of the messages here = complaining about bad teams/mm 😂
@rancid dune pinned messages
Yeah but for real, why does nobody make a discuss channel called: #ComplainingAboutTheGame
That would be the most popular channel in the server
Go ahead and suggest your idea to wg
#crychannel?
#i-play-the-game-but-still-complain
Ratings battles should be improved not per winning team ratings go up but how well each individual player scores..shots on target etc..Just lost at least 5 in a row but I was consistently the highest scoring player but because the team was useless my rating goes down too...How is THAT fair!?
It's based on your base exp not winning or losing
@sonic sedge rating isnt calculated compared to your team so dont compare yourself to your twam
He just played himself
err so I get THE highest score but my rating STILL goes down! Put your red marker pen away.
It can be done...not per teams winning or losing but on individual players’ performance win or lose!Scores totted up at the end goes onto your rating!
If you get 4.5K damage in tier 10 you will gain points for sure (unless you camped like a donkey)
@sonic sedge it isnt compared to your team...
☝️ that makes no sense! The ‘team’ lose then everybody’s rating goes down even if you scored amongst the top players on both teams, unless you were really lucky & yours goes up!
So your saying you should judge rating based off your own team?
So if you get a team of potatoes you gain loads of points but if you get a good team you dont get any points 🤔
On the other end you get teammates that farm and on the other you get teams that drag you down with their incompetence. Overall the problem is that other players dont match your skill level because there arent enough players to make the convergence low.
are you kid, it doesnt matter where on scoreboard you are but how much you helped team
Exaclty, your effort currently translates to points well enough. The problem isnt that. Its how a 45%er can be met in a diamond league game.
because rating has a more complicated match making system
cOmPliCatEd
How is it complicated? It just works based on players scores.
It’s ‘supposed’ match vehicles as well as ratings but that doesn’t always work out fairly either!
Why do you play ratings if you complain so much?
You should not Be awarded any points by how Good you did only win gets points imo
@agile sphinx thats the thing, most people dont :D
@balmy hollow why? Even in top leagues only what feels like 3/4 of the team plays an effective role. Its always the more useless teammates at the bottom of the scoreboard. Why should they be rewarded?
because they were in the team as well
why should they be punished for being on the bottom of scoreboard?
Because they didnt do as big of a job as the guys above them on the scoreboard they dont deserve the same amount of credit for other peoples efforts. Lets be realistic. Having a system that rewards individual success also reduces toxicity (which really isnt moderated in any effective way.)
I'd be for that kind of system if you actually got matched in teams that reflected your own skill level. But thats apparrently impossible.
Why is this in #rating-battles?
um
ok...
it's food, for good battles
hmmm
lol
Im trying to get rating camo on sp1c
Copycat
👹👹👹
im stuck in queue, send help
@fossil moth Good luck! I get one on my LTTB
thx 😃
@shadow hearth bloody goldnoobs, showing off. I have a vain hope I might get out of Gold, but the 41% nabs in what they think are OP tanks keep getting in the way.
Hahaha, well yeah these missions are forcing all the players to play ranked, and the fact that you get coins every win to open containers, wouldn’t be surprised to find 30-40% players in there 😂 @cinder abyss
Best of luck with them battles, i had my rogh phases to, i think it was at 4.7k
They're rank, rather than ranked, half the time. Still, winning low tier in a Comet is better than losing high tier in a Mutz, so I'll stick with 7 for now. Might stick my toe into 9 again, but if I suck and can't carry, what's the point. 😂
I feel ya. Rating reward system is completely busted and should be a per player basis.
Example: I ran a t28 proto. Dealt 4300 damage. 5 kills. Gold M class.
I got 12 rating points. Why? Cause my team lost. My damage, my kills, my XP out scored every player in that round. Including the enemy. But because my last shell bounced I got punished. My rating battle history right now is destroyed. I’m the top player by at least 1k damage every time. Because of a busted system my xp is ‘low’ at 400+ but i get red points. Thats 3977 down to 3450 because every team i drop cant play.
Would have been 45ish points... but we lost... 😭 so red points.
check the pinned mesages lol
this place isn't to complain about MM. If you aren't able to climb but others can, means it's a problem with you.
I’m not complaining about MM. i’m showing how the point system is broken
"because every team i drop cant play"
Tell me to my face, ‘the problem is you’ 😡 SIT DOWN. The problem is a broken point system. (I’m not talking AT ALL about MM here) simply an issue on points that need to be fixed.
Like how? If you lost you normally lose rating points. The fact that you still gain points is because you did well. Also 2k dmg in ratings will obviously lead to you dropping
Wrong in a win 2k gains you min of 50. The t28 fight if a win would have been at least 100. This is why the point system is broken.
The scaling isn't that good you might have got like 60 oder 70 at max for that
I’ve pulled 70 at a mere 3k damage and 1-2 kills🤔
the lower one is the more points someone gets
English pls? I’m not Russian.
I do not understand what's the complaining about mm depending too much about teams, current mm is based on entirely what you do in the battlefield
It aint broken or rigged or anything you're crying it would be, it's you problem
when ppl cry about mm, what they really mean is they want 6 unciums on their team and 7 40% on the other
Also they want the unicums to let them farm dmg
Unicums are sometimes easier to fight then 40%ers since they are some kind of predictable imo
DoEs AnYbOdY uNdErStAnD sArCaSm HeRe?
It's a general thing for me not espacially because of your post
@fallen mortar ikr lol 😂😂😂, like sometimes they just yolo and kill themselves and ruin all your plans because you got spotted at the time you least expect to be spotted
Or you take the flank 1 v 1 win and want to go on flanking and suddenly there is someone camping in his heavy on the enemy spawn
So true, its so hard to read them
@elfin quiver two things. One, pinned messages. Two, change your name
@molten whale bots
Y’all bragging about getting 50-100 pts in a win. So privileged. In platinum and diamond league a good win is like 25 points. 2k gets you like 10 if that.
@ornate spoke no u
after 5,5k a good win means 10+ rating points
No u
No u
Damn the ratings system
If u win a game with 4000+dmg you get around 70 points
If u lose the game with 0 dmg then just around 35-50 points reduce
Thank god i don't lose too many points when lagging 😇
thank god some people still dont get that if you risk playing with ping you shouldn´t play
When does this rating season finish?
@low sandal, May 31st I think
People down under getting constant 200-300 ping
Wish we had an Oceania server
Does anyone know if its possible to get someone banned from ratings only? So it isnt a conplete ban but a less harsh punishment for doing things like afking a battle until spotted
Hi
@agile sphinx hopefully yes
Its probably not serios enough to get a full ban but i dont see why WG wouldnt stop trolls playing the competitive gane mode
queue is an eternity so just chilling rn
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Maybe the “average rating” system may be flawed, perhaps a total rating system would be good 🤔
Four calibrations and a camper SU (which seems reasonable here) who helped me at the last moment xD
how many rating battles to get camo
@formal oracle
Players from the Platinum League will receive a rare camouflage for the Tier VII–X vehicles on which they fought the most rating battles during this period. It’s possible to get up to four warpaints: one for each eligible vehicle tier (VII–X), as long as you have played at least 50 battles with vehicles of that tier.
Players from the Diamond League will receive a rare camouflage for the Tier VII–X vehicles on which they fought the most rating battles during this period. It’s possible to get up to four warpaints: one for each eligible vehicle tier (VII–X), as long as you have played at least 50 battles with vehicles of that tier.
@brisk frigate, @rancid dune had a really good point, the rating system should be based more on individual performance, not on team performance. Getting lucky with good teams is NOT skill based, and the people who do usually climb are usually in platoon (which means you have at least one teammate you can rely on well) or they are just really lucky with their teams and get wins. If a person gets a mastery, or a rare medal like a Kholobanovs in rating battles that should give an immediate bonus to rating score, so even if an individual's team does lose, the BEST players actually end up climbing the ladder, and the WORST players drop. Its called rating battles not team battles after all, and in the current system only the winning TEAM gets a boost. If a bad player during calibration gets good teams the whole time he is calibrating, ends up in gold league, and keeps getting carried, is that truly a skill based ladder system, or is that just rewarding good team composition.
Your system would reward campers and anti team behavior you should play as a team and not as an individual
If you perform well you get points when you loose if you camp you deal dmg but don't get as many points because you camped and if you are doing kills and do some kind of support you'll get plus or a low minus
Performing well and win gives the most points just because one thinks that he played doesn't necessarily mean he actually did
^^^^
@drifting dust this only further places an emphasis on ignoring your team, all for yourself and selfish gameplay. Nobody's gonna help their team and instead just focus on killing targets and not helping a teammate that's being shot by an enemy.
Ratings should be xp based and I agree with the medal idea but only for medals which don't involve doing things that already are rewarded by xp so for example kolo medal would get rewarded and high caliber wouldn't. Going after kills usually means victory, right now there really isn't a stat thats better than xp for showing how much one's performance led to victory. There are things like blocking damage or taking damage for a teammate that aren't rewarded by xp so that sucks
Rating points ARE, roughly, XP based.
SO MUCH whining here, but NO ideas how to make the system better. All complainers here would only make the rating system worse.
The system is actually working pretty well, so please just shut up.
@late mural you haven't really played rating, have you in order to say this
At least there’s no OP or UP platoons anymore
But everyone spams WZ120gft's, Scorpions, IS3 Defs, Lupus's, Helsing etc in rating and no one plays for example Tiger 2
LOL, I have played it enough to get into platinum every season
but have you ever gotten to diamond or no? What we are talking about is that you do not get rewarded enough when for example you block 15+ shots and allow your team to push while the enemy focuses you and bounces off you but at the same time you do very low damage 1K you will ger rewarded with such few points even though you won the battle for your team by allowing them to push without getting shot
Then maybe it's not the right way to play is it?
Seems like people are unhappy if they lose the game and due that lose points.
Why should you earn as much points as the winning team players? There is literally no point in that
I feel I should clarify something here. I really don’t think y’all understand what ‘camping’ means.
Let me define it for you-
Do you hide dealing massive amounts of damage to the enemy? This is NOT camping. This is team work.
Did you sit in one spot, unable to fire at the reds cause they were to far away and deal next to no damage? This IS camping. Know the difference.
an FV215b (183) sitting at the back of the map clicking full HP enemy tanks for 1k each is what you call a camper, and he is engaging in camping
@restive dawn very very wrong. The point of rating battles is to give a more accurate idea of skill level. So when I’m in my armored TD running all over the map, dealing 4.3k damage, getting 5 kills then losing cause of broken RNG..... i deserve full rating points. The system is broken because it rewards bad players— i.e. 26 points when they did less then 1k damage, no spotting, no kills. And punishes good players. Gives a bad team, you carry everyone but in the end can’t quite and even the guy who 5 damage on the other-side gets more points then you.
@brisk frigate if he is actively engaging the enemy he is not camping. He has next to NO armor and so can not be spotted.
What are you going to tell me the Grille sitting in a bush snipping you is a camper and deserves to loose points? I’d like to see a grille survive front lining when 3 lights/meds charge.
Rating battles will never give a more accurate idea of skill level since tier 7,8 was added
If you have less then 400/600 base XP you should lose points. I don’t care whose team you’re on. If you preform well you should get full points. It’s time to weed out the bad players and send them back where they belong.
when i can get the rank camo on my SP1C?
@fossil moth you get it in the end of the season so on either the 31st of May or 1st of March
ok ok thx
Assisted damage should award more points than inflicted damage, blocked damage should be considered as well, that will force players to play as a team instead of playing super defensive and farm damage using other people’s hp
If everyone would play defensive, we will have a camper battle like back in 2014 XD
@shadow hearth with blocked damage everyone will play heavies. It is only wise for example to get a bonus only when you have more than 5 shots blocked.
Blocked dmg would only be fair since assisted dmg counts and thats what lights do
With the bonus for assisted damage it would cancel each other out (apart from TDs but they do more damage normally) so a few incentives to not play TDs would be great
@rancid dune you're considering only a battle. I think current system is fair. If you win you earn something, if you lose you can cut your losses by playing well, but it's still a loss after all. In the end, after a good amount of battles (20+) you can already portrait how a player performs in battle. Don't listen to fools who say ratings are broken. Usually they are the ones who cannot climb.
@bold panther Lol look here mate. I KNOW they are broken. I climbed up to 3977. Then have got bad teams since. 95% of those losses I’m the top player. Currently working my way back up again. But yes, the rating point system and needs to be fixed. I started with bad teams to boot. A 2400 rating. Don’t tell me they aren’t broken cause they are.
@rancid dune just because you do the most damage in your team it doesnt mean you deserve anythinh for it
The current system works fine, with players who carry getting rewarded and players who do badly getting punished
The only issue is that with a 50% WR and average battles you can climb through ratings as high as you want
@rancid dune if you calibrated at 2400 I can only laugh at your bold claims
@agile sphinx i did NOT get rewarded for a 4300 damage 5 kill cause we lost
@bold panther poor you i can show my claims.
I guess you gained about 8 points from that @rancid dune
From a guy who keeps 23% and 800 average on T110E3 I wouldn't know what kind of results in ratings are to be expected
I bet most of the people would complain if you were on their teams
12 which only proves my point. I can drop 50 on a win with less damage and kills. @agile sphinx
Sold the e3 bo better research mate @bold panther
@rancid dune And so why are you complaing? You gained points for a loss. If you do average you will still climb, doing well just means you will climb faster...
I was only saying that if you can't play the game, don't blame the system.
Gained silly
Ya miss my point.
Call that can’t play? I’m done. You @bold panther are being toxic with no goal of trying to have a reasonable conversation.
@rancid dune one game doesnt say if you are good or bad btw
Not toxic. This is the most sincere thing you will hear today. Try to improve your playstyle instead of spitting fire on the system. Rating points assignment is not perfect but neither is as broken as you describe it. Adapt at it, don't rush like a fool, don't lose hp and don't camp if you don't have to.
The same for you @agile sphinx you can see a 1200 point increase and choose to ignore it insisting on insulting me.
@rancid dune when did i ever insult you? And why should the system give winners and loser the same ammount of points?
Nobody is insulting you 😂
Just saying that maybe and just maybe it's your problem if you can't climb.
Define winner/loser.
My definition is different. I’m not gonna waste my time arguing with either of you. Also i hardly call reaching reaching 3977 from a starting point of 2400 unable to climb. This is how you are being toxic @bold panther
Neither I would define getting to 4k and then going back to 3.2k. Accept the reality of facts.
If you are on the winning team and do well, should you get the same amount of poins as beinh on the losing team and doing the same?
If you consider The fact that if your team is losing you usually should be more capable to farm damage, the system's fine as it is
The point system should not be based on the team but how each individual does.
Depending on situation that is true however you will still make much less rating on a good loss
It already is if you haven't noticed. But you can't assign the same amount of points to winners and losers.
Exactly
I disagree. If a loosing team member out performs both teams then they should receive full points
Rating is great the way it is because as long as you do good as an individual, you can make rating even if you lose 3 games and win 1.
Because that win will give you a lot while the losses wont lose you much
But you still lose. What's the point in it? If you are able to get like 5-10 points from a loss every time it's good for you, but you shouldn't deserve 20 like a win
Exactly @safe inlet
Ya I agree
Also i wouldn’t expect @bold panther to understand. He’s dealing with a case of unicum privilege .
A player can go AFK and still gain points. This is wrong.
What do you exactly mean by "privilege"?🤣
unicums had to work their way up to become unicums tho
No I didn't I payed lots of money to WG momma
you bought the 299,99$unicum pack too? 😮
Not gonna take my time to explain. Not worth my time. In a nutshell y’all are way to judgmental and are only able to read the bad stats.
I’m done no point in debating this any further.
if you calibrate in 2400 and cannot climb up to 4k is there any possibilties it's a you-problem not the system's fault?
I can read the good stats too. For example I can see @restive dawn here spent way more than me on this game
How can you get to 74 periodic wr if you don't sell your soul to WG? Impossibile 😂
i sold my another lung as well
I knew it!
@restive dawn bro like i said not worth my time. I got to 3977.
cool
i calibrated on 3k and on the other acc on 4,2k i have the feeling i did something wrong on one acc xD
I like rating like it is at least most of it i´d like it more if i spent 1 or 2 min more waiting but get people that only have up to 1000 Points less and not 2-2,5k less which is painful but loosing points on a loss is okay because where is the chellange if you get points for beeing the no 1. player of your team
^ if you gain points all the time when where is tge challenge?
it feels so wrong saying this since i complained alot myself when i was trying to get the 5k on my main but on my 2nd acc it was less painful and annoying to make myself the 4k
to defend myself if i complain i feel better and play like a normal human beeing again xD
@pine falcon i did not mean only heavies, players should be rewarded based on their performance in their category, like if you drive a light/med tank, the assisted damage will have a higher impact than inflicted damage, and when you drive a heavy tank, blocked damage will have a higher impact than inflicted damage, and when you drive TDs inflicted damage would matter the most. Its like forcing players to accomplish their role, teams would be much more organized that way imo.
@shadow hearth what about the AMX 50 100 upwards they can´t really fullfill thier role as a heavy tank or the tds that are build for rushing or frontlining
@shadow hearth About the meds and the lights that is a great idea. The blocked damage is still worrying me. A lot of people try to do countdowns in rating battles. And if this feature for blocking damage takes place, the people doing the countdowns will pick heavy tanks and intentionally bounce their shots off each other so that they get more of that juicy bonus.
I think some exceptions could be made on some special tanks that lack in their feild, but overall that might make the playstyle more proper
Countdowns in rating should be prohibited
It will be obvious if you get the same players over and over again that do that.
the problem is that for example a lot of my clan members play rating battles and often meet in battles by accidents (you know it happens a lot in rating as you are pretty experienced in that part). And by clan members meeting accidentally there might be a lot of misunderstanding that you were doing countdowns but in fact you were not
Wargaming wont look at whether the players were from the same clan, if someone reports these players and sends multiple replays, they will take action
The point I am trying to make is if they implement that blocked damage "bonus" there will be a lot and I mean a whole ton of countdowns happening in rating and most of the time you can never be sure if it is by accident that these people met or if it was intentional
I get it, but think about it this way, would you intentionally lose a battle and bounce your clan mate so he gets the points ?
Like thats just pure sadisme... unless your clan mate gives 0 fs about his ranking and credits and time
And reputation
finally quality content xD
And even so, they can do it right now by letting their clan mates penning them each shot
Sorry for the late response, got a call. Think about it this way. They wait for the entire team to die then when they are the two of them left they just start bouncing off one another.
The chances of both of them being the last standing in a ranked battle is 1/100
then its pretty obvious that they are rigging
Yeah also that, they’d get tons of reports because everyone watching them would be like wtf
it is not really 1/100. When you reach 4.5K your team normally wins with very few HP remaining on vehicles So a person can go around and finish the almost dead enemies
Rigging is easy if you find someone who dont give a rat's buttocks about their rating
And time
Doesn't ruin stats so any good player would even do it. Corse I wouldn't*
I'm already legitimately and fairly 5 k rating so I've no reason to continue
The thing is, veteran players instantly see it
Same here, im just playing it for credits boost
Yeah I'm done with rating cuz I dont wanna drop my 5 k
Wats the credit boost for plat
I know its 66% for diamond
Really? Oof maybe I will keep playing rating
Damn
Im already 5.6k so im safe to playy and grind credits
Getting 70k credits in a premium tank in my wort battles
@shadow hearth enter rating battles and suicide with premium tanks you'll make credits #madgamestrats
No it aint worth waiting that long in queue for a 1-2 min battle
O true. Plus you'll have 5 DMs with people raging
Yeah also not at all fair for 6 players to lose because of me
Yeah... but mad games I still want to try it
When it's back I shall yolo in multiple premiums and it shall make me rich
@shadow hearth i think thats a great idea, Plus exceptions as mentioned. Although, if you getting spots in a heavy it should count for more rewards 😃
dont go too far with that you would risk yoloing with that
@sudden fractal thanks, yeah heavies should get that too
Omg is it so difficult to post on right channels?
Wot
No naming and shaming
Please use the correct channels
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I would say getting into top 10 is the hardest thing about rating lol, this sounds so dumb. But getting above 5k isn’t really difficult
Finally 5k 😄
@fallen mortar @brisk frigate Aren't Random battles extremely selfish then? If so, why does everyone try to go for team wins? You are saying that individual performance completely stops team play. If that was the case then everyone one play the exact same. TD's, which I believe you guys are talking about are extremely team dependent, so this system wouldn't change much.
@fluid pollen GG dude nice
well in random battles i play pretty much selfish unless i know som people in my team or know that they are decent players but with most random plebs you cant play as a team since yoloing and blocking is a common thing and tbh some tds arent team dependent imo prem WZ is the best example
key word some we arent looking at the exception here and are you saying that the current rating mode promotes team play? People block, and yolo all the time here too lmao (at least at gold league and below)
I never said that I promotes teamwork
@drifting dust thx mate
Wait
then what the heck are you arguing against? If one person sucks, everyone should fail?
who?
No I was arguing against the spotting bonus for heavys
Lom
lol tiger has -137
10th game of calibration
Poor Tiger
Ratings is such a joke. Teams are just brainded
Its almost as if its the same people from normal battles but with some numbers attached
🤔
I swear I think I’ve lost 20 in a row. What’s the world record for ratings losses?
Does getting to Platinum League give you FOUR camos for 4 tanks with +50 battles?
only for 1 tank x tier (7-8-9-10) the One with the highest battle Number will get camo, it will skip to the 2nd if it already has camo.
50 battles needs to be the total for every tier @ornate spoke
Yes i know it is one for tier, but do i get 4 camos or just 1? On platinum league. Thx a lot @cedar mauve
I think only Diamond league gives you 4 camos..
when does rating end
End of may
@cedar mauve you can get 4 cammos in 1 season if you have played 50+ battles on tier 7. 50+ battles on tier 8, 50+ battles on tier 9, 50+ battles on tier 10. You will receive one for each vehicle with the highest number of battle per tier. @ornate spoke
@ornate spoke both plat and diamond league gives 4 camos but camos are only given when you got at least 50 battles in a certain tier and you can get 1 camo per tier only difference is that diamond gives a different camo compared to platinum
If you get the camo for a tank you already have it you will be compensated with creds
or a tank that can not have cammo (IS3D, Lupus, etc) will be compensated with creds
@pine falcon that s literally what i said lol, 1 camo x tier ( 1 for every tier)
yeah some months ago they used to give Camo to anothrr tank
@cedar mauve sorry i misunderstood you and thought you said that you can get only 1 cammo per season. My bad
ct by bh cd&hdha WTF
np*
Ok thx a lot guys!! @pine falcon @undone vortex
Because you dealt enough damage to warrant it
Unless u consider an avatar a reward then yes
This is not rating related
Thats not ranked @eager summit
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@eager summit pinned messages
I'm not receiving seasonal coins for ratings in the last 2 days at any tier or tank. Does anyone know why? It happens. It the past and I thought it a bug. Only I have the situation or there are more out there. Ty in advance
@sharp sandal you only receive coins for 40 winning battles per week. Then you can not get any until monday
Thank you for the information
Im so done woth random incompetent teams
Understandable @drifting dust.
reminder Mines shouldn't exist in Rating
They shouldn't exist for above tier 5
mines is fine
The campers decide that
Depends on teams composition and overall skill level